🔱┃sentinel

[scenic gyro]

especially since belt can have all health affixes

[gusty abyss]

%hp, hybrid hp and cdrs all competing for it

if anything, belt needed less pressure

[scenic gyro]

im not wasting an affix on belt for that

this node is sufficient

[gusty abyss]

yeah, that and symbols

[scenic gyro]

im not sure if i understand symbols correctly
wouldnt you ideally never use them? or is the regenration quick enough that the buff loss doesnt matter

[gusty abyss]

Regen is not quick enough

[scenic gyro]

so its 100% passive buff now

[vivid talon]

unless you're doing weird niche stuff you probably never press it

[gusty abyss]

You will have to decide between using the defensive buff or keep your offense

[vivid talon]

but you can build into making pressing it ok?

[analog ingot]

It's an oh shit button, you dont want to use it but having to wait for symbols to regen is better than being dead

[scenic gyro]

i guess

[gusty abyss]

I think it is at least a reason to not equip sun seal

[south zephyr]

Double Orians with max generator nodes gets you one a second which isn't terrible but yeah much more usable as a passive

[scenic gyro]

yea

wasting 2 ring slots for that doesnt sound too convincing

[south zephyr]

It's not really supposed to

Unless there's some insane divine flare tech we all missed

[vivid talon]

honestly divine flare looks kind of good

but not just to slap into random builds

[gusty abyss]

grasp of the blood mage might be able to trigger sun seal if your endurance is high enough

[vivid talon]

it's a shame sun seal doesn't really have stats on it

[south zephyr]

If there was a % Chance to gain a symbol on attack or something there'd be some fun

[scenic gyro]

there is

[gusty abyss]

There is on the skill tree, 10%

[south zephyr]

Only for flare itself

[gusty abyss]

Right, so that requires density

Which means its bad for bossing

[vivid talon]

I need to figure out a backup plan if shield rush is still buggy online...do I look at smite, or void dot caster?

[gusty abyss]

Smite would be dot based on VK, with the beams and fissure

[south zephyr]

Might be decent automated clear somewhere

[scenic gyro]

direct cast?

[south zephyr]

Disgustingly, yes

[gusty abyss]

Yep

[south zephyr]

Can't get fissure otherwise

[vivid talon]

direct cast smite is underrated

[south zephyr]

I'm horribly spoiled by WP smite automation

[covert phoenix]

it's not

it's just inferior

[vivid talon]

I just don't agree with that honestly

[gusty abyss]

Maxroll seems to think its top

[covert phoenix]

I mean

on one hand, you can cast a smite

on the other hand you can use multistrike for 4 smite

[gusty abyss]

Then again, warpath smite isnt even on their radar for speed

[covert phoenix]

hum

hard choice

[south zephyr]

My experience with it for bossing is only so so at the moment honestly, for echo clear speed though it's great

[gusty abyss]

Selfcast gets double cast, echo's, fissure and beams

[south zephyr]

Admittedly my gear isn't quite perfect as of yet

[covert phoenix]

with 35 skill points, sure

[south zephyr]

Only have +3 to smite and WP, etc

[covert phoenix]

also, echo is not an advantage, multistrike also echo

[waxen nymph]

How meme is this ??

[scenic gyro]

its perfect

[south zephyr]

Use case?

[turbid dome]

Someone call Draven

[waxen nymph]

Wait wait wait

[analog ingot]

I'm definitely very interested in how good divine flare is and if you can make it a regular part of a paladin build

[waxen nymph]

I am cooking

[eager carbon]

28 points

[vivid talon]

I really hope this is good!

it sounds so cool

[quiet hearth]

me and toast went over it, it's pretty fing meme but it has potential

[south zephyr]

500% more is probably pure meme, but it'll basically automate clear until like 300-400c I'm guessing

[waxen nymph]

With Vengeance Iron Blade + Flame Burst Holy Aura ?

[quiet hearth]

I thinkit was just spamming the boom button, nothing else

[south zephyr]

It's gonna clear like a mother, just not sure it'll be much use on bosses

Might be wrong though

[quiet hearth]

I mean, it has a built in recast that you only need 4 sigils to get 100% recast chance

like I doubt it's top tier but I imagine you can do almost everything with it, now how it would feel on the other hand

[south zephyr]

3 hits every roughly 3-4 seconds is just, kinda slow?

[quiet hearth]

the recast ignores the cd

[south zephyr]

Yeah but you gotta rebuild symbols between casts

[analog ingot]

Sure but you got 4 other skills in the mean time

[quiet hearth]

not on rares

now bosses yeah, but double boom should clear most rares because that is a LOT of effective dmg

[waxen nymph]

You get 2 hits per cast on rare/bosses

But then you need to build them back up

[south zephyr]

Hmmm wait is it a hit per symbol separately or all aggregated together

That 10% on hit is a lot better if each hit is separate

[waxen nymph]

1 Hit

[south zephyr]

Awwww

[fickle juniper]

how tanky is pally gonna be realistically?

[south zephyr]

Depends on the build

[drowsy merlin]

very and also not so much

[south zephyr]

Probably very if you can utilize high block chance

[fickle juniper]

assuming most tanky build possible

with "reasonable" gear after a couple weeks

[south zephyr]

Probably Very

Lots of sustain, some Endurance stuff, max block chance and high armor, if you utilize Vengeance that's like -35% less hit damage with the right setup

[quiet hearth]

they really should just remove the CD on divine flare, you're already paying a steep cost

[south zephyr]

FG with Sword Catcher might be higher since you can get like 60% Parry and tons of Block and armor applies to DoT

Which I may need to try out

Not sure about damage scaling that one tbh

[eager carbon]

4 more points and you can take renewed hope for always having at least 1 symbol

[waxen nymph]

Not bad

[scenic gyro]

dumb question, does the covenant of light passive translate properly in le tools? yes it does

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[wise rune]

i theorycrafted a build for world splitter + horns of uhkeiros forge guard

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2GnE6LQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (7) / Forge Guard (66) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,803, Regen: 92.5/s
▸ Mana: 481.19, Regen: 36.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 73 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 96% / 75% / 105% / 76% / 45% / 57%
▸ EHP: 14,175 / 14,033 / 14,033 / 31,120 / 14,772 / 10,795 / 11,893

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 786
▸ Armor Mitigation: 79% (11,242)
▸ Block Chance: 62%, Mitigation: 45% (1,610)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Molten Infusion (5), Smelter's Wrath, Symbols of Hope (4/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smelter's Wrath (28)
• Forge Strike (28)
• Symbols of Hope (23)
• Multistrike (25)
• Void Cleave (21)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• World Splitter
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Darkstride
• Horns of Uhkeiros

[wise rune]

high mana cost on smelters wrath works well with world splitter and with the new FG node you can use horns of uhkeiros which gives +50% mana cost, in between you're spamming multistrike to generate mana and forged weapons which apply massive amounts of armor shred

[umbral pagoda]

paladin Bleed Hammerdin good starter build ?

[waxen nymph]

Btw I just read
You can get multiple recasts

[quiet hearth]

right, that's how I read it, doesnt mean it wont feel jank

[scenic gyro]

jank is where the magic happens

[eager carbon]

I fcking hate this no gif thing

[scenic gyro]

well thursday will be madness, gotta control it somehow

[eager carbon]

The 5min slowmode will be enough

[scenic gyro]

nah it wont

release was a complete fiesta

on disc

[eager carbon]

You don't say

[quiet hearth]

oh man what a cluster that day was

[little shadow]

5 days or so lol

[scenic gyro]

im taking m yleave from here for a week or two on release, godspeed to the mods xD

[eager carbon]

Release was bitter cause of stupid towns and people spawning 14 milions useless pets

[quiet hearth]

For how big EHG is, it went about as well as it could have imo, like things went wrong but come on, no way you can expect a team that small to handle it any better than they did

[little shadow]

mind you they eventually got it sorted and they still working hard hence this new update lol

i am looking forward to this patch considering sentinal is my fav and they not seen alot of attention for a while

[south zephyr]

Hmmm so 35% parry chance from a perfect slam Sword Catcher, potentially 8% more from FW assuming not using FS

[candid anchor]

Autobomber devouring orb VK or shatter strike blade…… SOS as a starter

[quiet hearth]

Looking forward to next year when FG gets brought up to par with his co-stars

[south zephyr]

Just meme harder eventually something will click or you'll just break MA with snapshotting

[lean scarab]

how pary actualy works in LE i heard it is like u get mini stuns contantly when u pary is it true?

[eager carbon]

But MA is broken..

[quiet hearth]

im doing jut that fire vengeance proccing HH with the ruby fang set

[south zephyr]

No clue never used it lol

[little shadow]

for me forge guard seems just as strong though not looked properly at the other ones yet properly as planning on running FG this patch

[south zephyr]

Probably will work better than my phalanx Sigeons meme

[eager carbon]

The new chest is broken as well, the frenzy amulet is giga broken

MA will be so strong with 0 snapshot

[quiet hearth]

Oh Im not saying it's bad, but the other trees are a lot better, like 2h in one is cool but the tree still needs some love, like 6/10 compared to their like 8-9/10

[little shadow]

the build i will be heading towards this coming season https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYM4Rw0o

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (18) / Forge Guard (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,728, Regen: 40.7/s
▸ Mana: 307.45, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 15 Dex / 1 Int / 77 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 84% / 105% / 157% / 88% / 56% / 105%
▸ EHP: 21,584 / 21,584 / 21,584 / 42,206 / 22,720 / 18,138 / 21,584

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 994
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,992)
▸ Block Chance: 71%, Mitigation: 61% (3,235)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (4/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (27)
• Forge Strike (33)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Healing Hands (27)
• Void Cleave (27)

Used unique items:

• Sword Catcher
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Logi's Hunger

[little shadow]

will give credit where credit due father toast helped with alot of advice for the above build

[south zephyr]

There's probably some better 2H+Shield synergies than Sig+Phalanx but I'm too dumb to find them

[shadow cove]

Never experienced that

I remember there were people getting stunned believing they were freezing due to parrying but they were just
....getting stunned

[woven temple]

any 2h + visage of majasa

[south zephyr]

Overrated and boring

[woven temple]

you asked for better, not less boring

[shadow cove]

Whats boring to some isnt boring to otheres yes yes

[south zephyr]

Honestly not even clear it's better, Enemy DoT got nerfed a ton and the other passive is mostly useless

[eager carbon]

Parry is like dodge, but you still take the hit

Which means it will not stop ailments and stuns

And is capped at 75%

[gusty bronze]

ignite with warpath + bardiche

[south zephyr]

Yeah that is a lot of bleed % chance -> ignite % chance

[quiet hearth]

shame VC cant be just used with any 2h, I would love to use buldars and VC someone

[turbid dome]

real

node that makes it a charge forward and aoe slam with a 2handed hammer?

[quiet hearth]

you dont even need to change that,

[turbid dome]

but a sweep doesn't feel hammer-y

[quiet hearth]

you mean to tell me you cant swing a hammer in a sweeping motion?

[turbid dome]

I want da bonk

[quiet hearth]

you have ES

[turbid dome]

I want more bonk

[quiet hearth]

then echo it

[turbid dome]

yeah you can echo void cleave

[quiet hearth]

it was a joke

[turbid dome]

darn

I was trying to play into it

[quiet hearth]

just take the wind out my sails

I like how this one node completely takes the wind out of two of FGs entire passive lines

I wonder when we will get mace changes?

[dense ocean]

hello! currently im using such gloves on leveling, what gloves could possibly be better for void warpath build? im trying to craft some with crit and att speed but tooltip shows much lower value every time

[turbid dome]

yeah you got a lucky roll with weavers will

for context 25% melee attack speed = a T7 melee attack speed affix

*on gloves

[quiet hearth]

hey engi, did you see earlier when I realized that sent now has a base fire skill to double proc my stupid ruby fang build?

[turbid dome]

🍻

but overall those gloves are good leveling gloves

[quiet hearth]

they really are

[dense ocean]

so they will stay with me for a long time I guess

[turbid dome]

given its eally all the stats you want

[turbid dome]

yea

damage, stats, attack speed, more damage

tf else do you want from gloves

hybrid health but thats for later

[quiet hearth]

you wont replace those until like, emp monos or close to them

[hallow knoll]

only way smth could be better is like t7 melee attack speed, crit chance, hybrid health

[turbid dome]

yea

or if you REALLY need dot defense from eternal gaunlets

but thats still waaaayyy later in the game

[dense ocean]

so something like this but t7 att speed and hybrid health?

[turbid dome]

probably yeah

if your going for a single big bonk build the more dmg on the weaver gloves becomes a lot better imo

[dense ocean]

will t9 CoF rank reward really make t7 to appear more often?

[hallow knoll]

I think next patch mana is pretty valuable on gloves for VK Warpath

[eager carbon]

[turbid dome]

what warpath build exactly

[marble topaz]

Any warpath build that takes warrior's fury and utilizes void well

Maxroll one comes to mind

[ripe cargo]

hey new tech discovered

[hallow knoll]

yeh, the more mana you have the more you can ramp up that build and also maintain your mana pool

[ripe cargo]

time rot spread on kill means you don't need a clear skill on tiem rot builds

[turbid dome]

[crimson pier]

I am season starting a Void Knight using Warpath to trigger Smite and Devouring Orb. Here is a bare bones planner for it.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkV1m2wA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,793, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 106.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 42% / 0% / 0% / 20% / 24% / 27% / 27%
▸ EHP: 2,814 / 2,501 / 2,501 / 2,747 / 3,021 / 2,343 / 2,343

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 539
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,896)
▸ Block Chance: 41%, Mitigation: 32% (790)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Devouring Orb (23)
• Smite (23)
• Warpath (23)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light

[ionic inlet]

Hi so I made a endgame build kind of and the new forge guard mastery of using 2h and other bonuses would make shield bash incredibly strong, might not be the most fun thing to play but should be strong at least.
Worth to invest more time on it or would the skill be too boring to use?

[crimson pier]

Its crazy how much stronger Warpath Void Knight Smite gets with free procs of Devouring Orb

[eager carbon]

You have 0 mana sustain

[waxen nymph]

???

You seem to be going Hit Dmg

[eager carbon]

Very confusing point distribution as well, yes

[crimson pier]

I have tested the build on the community tester server, and it works fine, no mana problems

[eager carbon]

How

[waxen nymph]

Why take Inc Dmg Over Time Taken on a Crit Build ?

[crimson pier]

Ya, i had some extra points, so i thru them in there

[crimson pier]

I don't claim to have optimal point distributions, still a work in progress

[crimson pier]

opse, i thought I maxed that

[eager carbon]

VR alone drains 20+ mana per combo, thats half your mana pool

2 orbs and you are down to 20 mana

[crimson pier]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRWnWXNA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,793, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 106.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 42% / 0% / 0% / 20% / 24% / 27% / 27%
▸ EHP: 2,814 / 2,501 / 2,501 / 2,747 / 3,021 / 2,343 / 2,343

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 539
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,896)
▸ Block Chance: 41%, Mitigation: 32% (790)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Devouring Orb (23)
• Smite (23)
• Warpath (23)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light

[crimson pier]

ok, reallocated the points

As far as mana goes, I been playing on the test server, and never run out of mana, but i rarely cast VR

[waxen nymph]

Right now, on your planner you regen 4 mana per second while Warpathing

[eager carbon]

I don't believe you have no mana issues

VR and Orb already drain 50% of your mana, you have hindered mana regen cause of Warpath as Vlad said, and you are proccing ton of Smites

[waxen nymph]

The ones from Palarus are free I believe

The one from Warpath arent

[eager carbon]

I thought only the ones from idols are free

[waxen nymph]

Sorry its too late to try it ^^

[inland quarry]

I was just doing the calculations and shield throw can do 1 million boss DPS with good gear. With great gear it's way over

[crimson pier]

And i rarely use VR, its more of an emergency thing, i just warpath around

And the planner, is barebones, i may have some mana regen on the gear on the test server, that I did not put in the planner

[ripe cargo]

this node is disgusting.

[strong plume]

I am asking the Devs, but checking here too - has anyone had a the devs confirm this?

Does "Future Focus" on Volatile Reversal disable "Warped Time" and "Phased Reality" in the same tree. It's not specified that it does, but I want to check if it does in fact disable both.

I don't want "skeptical assumptions" I want to know if its been confirmed to disable them or not.

[wheat light]

ugh I'm stuck deciding between paladin multistike smite/electrify and vk warpath for start

[strong plume]

Nevermind - Mike is saying the wording does not impact the skill - this is hugely important for those considering Volatile Reversal.

[uneven gorge]

Poison ✅ 💪 🗣️

[vivid talon]

huh thanks for asking that, I assumed based on the wording that it obviously disabled them because otherwise why word it that way

very interesting

[quiet hearth]

use paladin, use ignite, bleed, poison, electrify all on the same build

[strong plume]

Mike claims that its just treated as a 2nd combo (staged combo) I assumed the wording mattered too, but it appears it doesn't.

That makes Volatile Reversal incredibly valuable

[leaden kestrel]

hello, i saw a discussion on dmg conversion earlier in this chat, i'm wondering if it means that this node for example is worthless if i go for fire melee dmg scaling?

[eager carbon]

Dont go this node regardless

[leaden kestrel]

oh

i was looking for a vengeance build with forgegard's minions so i thought i'd get hit a lot

[real patrol]

how that node didnt get changed is insane

[ripe cargo]

base classes are currently not being changed.

think of base classes as 20 pointso f filler with 2 sets of giga op nodes at the end

[leaden kestrel]

sentinel has good nodes at the end?

the 2 at the end look like a disaster

[upper canopy]

hey everyone, been almost a day one vet. to the game and im pretty stoked to give this build a whirl. let me know what yall think

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYM4XW0o

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (76) / Paladin (17)

General:

▸ Health: 1,787, Regen: 43/s
▸ Mana: 505.1, Regen: 8.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 122 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 156% / 91% / 89% / 121% / 32% / 85% / 93%
▸ EHP: 10,488 / 8,583 / 8,583 / 12,384 / 10,488 / 8,583 / 8,583

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 135%, Threshold: 668
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,325)
▸ Block Chance: 88%, Mitigation: 49% (1,950)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (4/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Forge Strike (30)
• Symbols of Hope (23)
• Smite (21)
• Ring Of Shields (23)
• Healing Hands (21)

Used unique items:

• Face of the Mountain
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Phantom Grip
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Eye
• Fiery Dragon Shoes

[upper canopy]

from what i can tell its gonnaa be one tanky boy but Le has proved me wrong in the past xD

[uneven gorge]

Don't diss the 30% attack speed

[leaden kestrel]

i was planning on using a mace

:(

[ripe cargo]

do fissures benifit from smites passive tree?

[clever hazel]

yes, all subskills work that way

according to mike a few minutes ago "target conditional effects like damage to ignited and damage to blinded do not get passed down (to subskills)"

[cunning yew]

some nodes on subskills may say the phrase "directly cast" which means not when procced by other abilities though, so watch for that

[ripe cargo]

mostly only cared about sacrafice tbh

but thats good to know too

so smite is a good movmenet skill for holy trail judgement

[clever hazel]

it can be, though volatile reversal is probably better IMO

VR can make enemies take 15% increased damage over time, which is pretty big

[ripe cargo]

or

hear me out

i just make the skill do 15% of my damage over time itself

[urban phoenix]

I feel like the gloves don't make tons of sense with phantom grips in this situation. instead of attunement and minion damage, you should drop one for attack speed probably.

[clever hazel]

fissure smite and holy trail javelin have pretty similar scaling tbh

ground based elemental DoT

[urban phoenix]

since minions don't get anything from minion damage or attunement via the "your forged weapons get 64-100% of the stats on your gloves"

[ripe cargo]

yeah the main issue is the mana cost

since i need to make sure holy trail stays above 10 mana

sorry

judgement

[clever hazel]

if you're casting smite directly it's pretty easy to solve mana

Time and Faith passive + smite mana affix on helmet

[polar spire]

0 ward, 0 health regen, 1700 life, this is getting 1 tapped

[ripe cargo]

i was debating not going holy trail

and useing spear throw as a sort of like

judgement mana reducer

[urban phoenix]

@polar spire Think the heartseeker helm can be put to good use on a forge guard for ailment stacking?

or just wasting a helm slot?

[polar spire]

Should be fine, kinda hard to "waste" helm slot

Not much to waste on

[urban phoenix]

Thats fair.

Debating between bleed and ignite.

[polar spire]

And then run shield throw shield, vortex pennant, and play throw smite?

[urban phoenix]

Yeah pretty much.

[polar spire]

Go all phys/bleed, dont even have to pick forgeguard

[urban phoenix]

Could also go like, sunforged hammer for all the generic ignite from the FW.

[polar spire]

Vk runs best with vortex pennant, but all 3 work

[ionic inlet]

If someone wants to play around with str stacking Shield Bash here's a concept with 400 flat phys, 430% more multipliers and 44 pen (And has crit multi)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkV1g4DA

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (70) / Paladin (23)

General:

▸ Health: 3,128, Regen: 73.2/s
▸ Mana: 192.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 199 Str / 25 Dex / 26 Int / 7 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 125% / 96% / 123% / 77% / 68% / 75% / 73%
▸ EHP: 21,506 / 21,506 / 21,506 / 38,746 / 20,099 / 21,506 / 21,085

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 776
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,419)
▸ Block Chance: 257%, Mitigation: 54% (2,415)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (21)
• Shield Bash (25)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Forge Strike (23)
• Lunge (21)

Used unique items:

• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Blood of the Exile
• Clotho's Needle
• Bastion of Honour
• Siphon of Anguish
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Shattered Chains
• Dominance of the Tundra
• Mantle of the Pale Ox

[urban phoenix]

since the shard itself is still decent with the ignite dmg, 40% per weapon

could make a decent crafted two hand maul.

[polar spire]

I feel like you'd be mixing damage types too much

Doesnt work as well as it works on forge strike

[urban phoenix]

How do you mean?

[polar spire]

You'd be building phys and fire

Forge strike just builds %inc stun

[urban phoenix]

wouldn't use forge strike at all, except for the FW.

probably use vengeance to spawn them

[polar spire]

Yea i mean forge strike is easier to run and affix multiple dots

[lean scarab]

hey, i am undecided between 2 builds javelin paladin(phy hit or electrify) or VK Erasing strike i like to min max 1 build per cycle so which one of them is more fitting to min maxing which one is more scalable?

[polar spire]

Bleed and ignite for phys/fire is spreading yourself thin

[urban phoenix]

Yeah, i'd do one or the other.

[polar spire]

I mean it'll work, just not for long, it'll hit a plateau sooner

[urban phoenix]

If i went bleed, i'd probably go like, symbol of demise or something

[alpine canopy]

You want the symbol refund, it boosts how fast you can use it by a lot. Also, dropping one max symbol to take the void conversion is on the table! (You can get it back with suuuuper high end items, but dps isn't actually much worse off for it, and even better since void spells can be echoed - just not sure how well the spell will echo given it normally needs to consume symbols.)

Also, with void beam from smite being a smite subskill, does this mean void fissure + beam smite build is on the table? 👀

Has to be direct cast smite unfortunately, but could be viable?

[viscid loom]

Planning on time rot void knight. What weapon type and main skill do y'all recommend? I'll figure the rest out live just want to start in the right direction

[sharp ibex]

off the top of my head i think there's some cool unique void swords

imma look

[polar spire]

Anomaly as a spellcast maybe? Coupled with void cleave, run apathy maw, and you have doom, time rot, future strike, and time wave

[ripe cargo]

oh holy heck

people are hella understimating the new vengeance spear.

[viscid loom]

Sound good!

[ripe cargo]

This is forge guard.

[polar spire]

Naaa i dont think they are

[sharp ibex]

I think im overestimating it personally

[polar spire]

Ive seen a small chunk of face of the mountain builds spring from it

[lean scarab]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgrALCDsQ or apathy of maw

[sharp ibex]

I was just going to go full crit with Phalanx

[alpine canopy]

Erasing strike will probably be very good / well-rounded, shield rush is another good skill for time rot. There's a time rot set (sword + shield + amulet), and also there's a 2-hand sword that has potential (black blade of chaos).

[split bobcat]

Is sentinel looking like one of the better classes to start with this new season? Just tried leveling both a sentinel and a rogue to the mastery selection just to see what I’m feeling, and I felt so much stronger on sentinel

[ripe cargo]

Yeah i just mean its slipping under the radar, because everyones so used to vengenace only being used with fire paladins is all

[polar spire]

If you want a season starter purely for farming to get other builds you want to enjoy on board faster, i recommend Werebear

[sharp ibex]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApD453kA

[alpine canopy]

Pretty sure I saw someone theory crafting with it yesterday-ish for a bleed build

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (93)

General:

▸ Health: 1,393, Regen: 38/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 43 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 0% / 0% / 75% / 32% / 4% / 4%
▸ EHP: 2,021 / 1,248 / 1,248 / 2,343 / 1,527 / 1,277 / 1,277

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 279
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (728)
▸ Block Chance: 44%, Mitigation: 41% (1,360)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Vengeance (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Lunge (20)
• Rebuke (20)
• Forge Strike (20)

Used unique items:

• Countenance of Majasa
• Phalanx

[sharp ibex]

I hamfisted this thing together just trying to get an understanding of what nodes I wanna take in the active skills. Passive tree is nowhere near final.

but general idea is just crit

[split bobcat]

I’ll look into this. Thank you. I have maybe 15-20 hours in this game playing a spriggan Druid and that was months ago. This season announcement has me hyped though

[polar spire]

Yea vengeance + torkrefin phys resist phys pen for bleeds is nutty

[polar spire]

Yea werebear is like the easiest thing to play, and chunky tanky

Makes for a fantastic season starter

And dr3ad has a tornado build for it, but honestly just basic werebear is more than fine

[sharp ibex]

I really want to jump straight into making the Phalanx FG but I should probably level something fast first

like bleed hammers

[polar spire]

I like running high cdr leap/upheaval bear

[ripe cargo]

@polar spire Vengeance parry lunge sigils are the obvious skills. What do you see people using for hte 5th skill/

[sharp ibex]

leap + circle upheaval is lots of fun

[polar spire]

Fury leap giving invincibility mid leap and having it on a less than 2s cd is alot of fun

[sharp ibex]

One of my other builds this season will probably be with the new bhaldurs

[polar spire]

Sentinel baldhurs i'd love to run

[sharp ibex]

leap and have upheaval and quake go off will be so awesome

[polar spire]

Shield bash + fire lunge or something else

[sharp ibex]

oh interesting

[polar spire]

Lunge in general is just hilarious on a high health build, especially with missing health idols and missing health 5/5 on lunge

Can max heal every 1.5s from 10% health, spamming lunges

[ripe cargo]

wopuld you just use shield bash as intended for 5th skill?

[polar spire]

I mean you could

Run bulwark of the abyss and then play fire shield shotgun shield bash on lunge

And play it as a melee fire build

[ripe cargo]

By proper i just mean a free stun sorry not the damage way

[leaden kestrel]

if i play fire vengeance, it's better to not get too much stun chance, right?

[polar spire]

I feel like a standard high health vengeance/missing health lunge build could easily handle uber aberath

[strong plume]

For Shield Bash experts out there - do you need to be in melee range to cast shield bash for the procs to proc? "Essentially" do you "have to" hit an enemy with it for the procs to proc - or can you just cast it to preload the procs and it doesn't actually require you to hit/be in melee range?

[polar spire]

I know the ignite node that also gives 20% base crit and be cast whenever, you used to do that for judgement 1 shot boss slams

[ripe cargo]

if your playing fire vengeance your playing ironblades vgengeance

its just sadly not a option

[polar spire]

Unless volcanus paladin

Then it is

[south zephyr]

Can MA parry if you have Parry chance on weapons? I assume yes

[strong plume]

Yeah I'm looking at it for the Block Chance - if I can just hit air with it and get the extra 15% for 4 seconds at anytime regardless of enemies it becomes interesting

[ripe cargo]

isn't that even better with iron blades though

since its a proc chance build

[polar spire]

Iron blade in vengeance can proc volcanus magma shards, as well as paladin talent divine bolts and holy aura flame burst

[ripe cargo]

this

you also proc healing hands

[leaden kestrel]

i didn't understand why i'd need iron blades specs tbh, the fire conversion on vengeance tree is only for vengeance hits and ripostes, no?

[ripe cargo]

it's just one big trigger shit show and its awesome

[polar spire]

I think hh is on direct melee use, dont think it counts for iron blade

Otherwise you'd run counterattacks retribution on every melee build for HH

Which, that also works great for these procs besides HH

[ripe cargo]

yeah its just

"Trigger everything."

[south zephyr]

Sad you can't get Flame Burst on FG

[ripe cargo]

is the goal of firfe vengeance

[polar spire]

volcanus fire vengeance/fire lunge may honestly be what i go

its a lot of fun with a logi's amulet

[ripe cargo]

the way the node reads to me is that it covnerts all of vengeance

[polar spire]

and then run it as a paladin

[ripe cargo]

since there is no mention of riposte or mean hit

[polar spire]

and then we have +100% increased symbols crit, and i'm running a full group with a primalist running sum sprig so another 8% base crit on top

[ripe cargo]

Actually i'mk not entirely sure

time to head to ask the devs

ironblades is a pure subskill but it's also a subskill thats local to only one skill

[polar spire]

its a melee hit, it can proc anything that requires a melee hit/attack

rogues flurry has a wave attack that does the same thing, and also procs the same things

[ripe cargo]

Yeah the question is the conversion nodes.

It's both a subskill and a proc

[polar spire]

oh yea it doesnt convert, stays phys

[south zephyr]

So basically 3 melee hits per hit

[polar spire]

subskills like that typically dont convert unless specified

[ripe cargo]

yes

but riposte is also a subskill

And it does get converted

[polar spire]

yea riposte also counts for melee procs

and counterattack retribution

[ripe cargo]

Apparently it's already been confirmed

ironblades get converted

[polar spire]

yea riposte gets converted because of how it works for vengeance

[coral dawn]

when does the anvil damage on forge strike start hitting hard?

[polar spire]

but iron blades is a bit different,

[ripe cargo]

so do ironblades

because they're essentially riposte

but a trigger

[polar spire]

iron blades is like if you take energy wave on rive

iron blade is a subskill of vengeance and riposte

vengeance and riposte can fire convert, iron blade stays phys

rive can void convert, energy wave stays phys

[polar spire]

thats so different compared to most skills with subskills exactly like iron blade

wtf ehg

[leaden kestrel]

ty for the answer. Now i'm very confused lol

[polar spire]

there are so many skills with subskills that dont convert unless specified

and iron blades just converts anyways

ehg code goes brrr

[lyric lintel]

Almost 100% sure it can, unless they changed something. Played for a while with swordcather and saw Parry tooltips on top of my minions

[leaden kestrel]

it's just missing it in the tooltip of the fire conversion node then

[orchid flint]

how is mana cost reduction calculated. for example is a node is -3 mana and another node is 40% increased mana. is it -3 pre 1.4x or is it 1.4x-3?

[ripe cargo]

Asking the real question now

what happens if you get over 100% iron blade chance

[turbid dome]

parry goes on those

so yeah the minions should get it

[ripe cargo]

nvm

just realized

you cant

[turbid dome]

assuming you have the AM gets your weapon node

[polar spire]

yea 1 node caps to 80% based on attune, previous node just gives flat 20%

so only 100% sadly

thats why fire vengeance volcanus works so well, magma shards and divine bolts scale off attune

AND volcanus just got buffed with this patch

[alpine canopy]

In general, it's the same as damage/etc. calculations: all +/- cost modifiers are applied first, then % cost modifiers

[polar spire]

+5% on magma shards chance, and a little extra melee and spell fire

[orchid flint]

gotcha then the javelin seige barrage + divine fury looks doable with the mana reduction nodes

[turbid dome]

only * i'll add for completeness is everything on the skill tree applies first, then your gear applies

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's totally doable - it's even more expensive currently just to run siege barrage on its own than it will be to do siege barrage + divine fury (depending on how many points you put in DF)

and it's the most common way to run javelin unless you're using it for banner or holy trail

[orchid flint]

its nice they moved the mana node up one

that solved lol

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, we get a lot of freed up points 😁

[orchid flint]

pinchingloaf put out a javazon build that looks good

i was just looking at how to fix the mana

[ripe cargo]

I don't htink vengeance is all that good as anything but a mana generator

but its a very good mana generator

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKlrrqXQ
this isnt fleshed out at all, just a bit placed in for a fire vengeance starter paladin

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,244, Regen: 45/s
▸ Mana: 112.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 50% / 30% / 30% / 26% / 20% / 33% / 7%
▸ EHP: 1,487 / 1,282 / 1,282 / 1,282 / 1,200 / 1,309 / 1,107

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 454
▸ Armor Mitigation: 8% (198)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Vengeance (20)
• Lunge (20)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Volcanus
• Logi's Hunger
• Falcon Fists

[ripe cargo]

speaking of being an insane mana generator

[polar spire]

logi's is the only target farm in that

can easily get the weapon and gloves in weaver tree

[ripe cargo]

it doesn't make a lot of sense at first but i think i found the 5trh skill for vengeance+ javelin

and its pretty obvious

the skill is designed with the sole intnet of being a mana dumb

forgte strike

[polar spire]

running javelins -20 mana cost on next skill after throw?

ranged javelin/forge strike is a fave of mine for arenas

[full prairie]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRWnn8zA CoF SSF Judgement Aura/Dot any additions/improvements?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (19) / Paladin (69)

General:

▸ Health: 2,172, Regen: 121.79/s
▸ Mana: 230.48, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 52 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 200% / 133% / 93% / 105% / 105% / 97% / 100%
▸ EHP: 6,245 / 6,245 / 6,245 / 9,878 / 7,235 / 6,972 / 6,245

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 780
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (75)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,806)
▸ Block Chance: 41%, Mitigation: 39% (1,205)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 43%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Symbols of Hope (22)
• Judgement (21)

Used unique items:

• Hand of Judgement
• Rahyeh's Light
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Decayed Skull

[polar spire]

before i look, slam judge or aura judge?

since it works either way

[alpine canopy]

It's also a DR generator, a great damage buff for ES or VC, and also still very good for flame burst (though bladestorm might be overtaking it in S2)

Oh yeah, and a pretty decent FW generator

[polar spire]

its fantastic for never dying builds

[south zephyr]

And maybe a fun alternative throwing build

[polar spire]

can solo all content especially with its rework

[south zephyr]

Depending on how Phalanx works and interacts with siege barrage

[polar spire]

i just wish iron blade chain still existed

[alpine canopy]

The DR is downright insane. That's the main reason I think it still competes with multistrike bladestorm on flame burst.

[ripe cargo]

yeah vnegeance javelin forge strike vengeance javelin forge strike

[alpine canopy]

plus the global 1.2x damage multi helps

[ripe cargo]

or forge stirke spam vengeance when clearing

[polar spire]

multistrike bladestorm will go better with forge guard because of its block effect node, but at the same time, you kinda wanna run Fiery Justice which doesnt work as well with bladestorm for optimal forge guard damage

[ripe cargo]

I'm worrieed void vengeance isn't good enough tbh

[polar spire]

at least multistrike paladin/vk can run smites on target

[ripe cargo]

not because its genuinely not good

but because erasing strike players are apes

and will do anything other than play the game proper

[south zephyr]

BONK GOOD

[polar spire]

vengeane and riposte granting void essences for void well makes it a nice enough defensive staple for ES builds on bossing

[alpine canopy]

I'm not worried about it, I'm definitely using void vengeance on both my time rot and spell DOT VK setups

[south zephyr]

Also very psyched for FG Vengeance Jav via Phalanx

[polar spire]

theres also the fact that after using vengeance, you get a full 2s to riposte, so you can vengeance, erasing strike, vengeance, and erasing strike gets full riposte DR coverage during its use

[ripe cargo]

yeah you could also use rives

[alpine canopy]

I think it'll go hard on electrify builds, maybe bleed also

[ripe cargo]

but you've seen the apes that play this game

do you really expect them to play properly?

[full prairie]

Aura/Dot

[polar spire]

compared to poe, you can get to at least 300c with a random crap put together build

[south zephyr]

Honestly might want to take both +1 Riposte nodes for coverage against packs and multi-hits

[polar spire]

last epochs a lot more lenient on bad builds

[south zephyr]

Since the DR disappears once you riposte an attack

[ripe cargo]

I don't think that's a bad thing.

[polar spire]

you prob dont need those gloves for aura dot then, they're more made for slammers, a good fire wand or sceptre helps dot aura more from what i remember of people that played dot aura

[south zephyr]

Also lenient is a relative term here, I've definitely home brewed builds that were fun but couldn't breach 200C

Looking at you frostbite tornado shaman

[wheat light]

Im hyped af for electrify paladin with multistrike/smite/HH shennanigans

it looks like it'll scale to the moon

[south zephyr]

Very likely to be powerful and plenty of unique support

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, bladestorm just seems so strong

[south zephyr]

Well one good unique anyways

[polar spire]

instead, if you like intentionally nuking your own health pool so you can proc orian's sunseal (especially if you pickup divine flare for the 80% reduced cd) you could swap to Blood Mage gloves

blood mage gloves are gonna be a total thing for symbols of hope divine flare righteous fire

[twilit pasture]

Is the multistrike single target change going to make a meaningful difference to any builds? Is it just the most efficient smite dispenser now, or is there actual melee use?

[polar spire]

just gotta get the threshold up

[ripe cargo]

I think the issues start to show when streamers are like

"Just get 1.1.k mana easy."

which is so clown

[polar spire]

CHECK OUT MY NEW SSS TIER BUILD
or
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[wheat light]

smite go brrr

[polar spire]

oh its going to be massive for single target damage, smite or not

[ripe cargo]

I am so glad ehg nerfed caltrops. God bless they heard someone other than the streamers talk about balance.

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bja449WQ
i crafted this jank earlier because of it

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (9) / Paladin (64)

General:

▸ Health: 3,072, Regen: 83.97/s
▸ Mana: 108.66, Regen: 10.91/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 90% / 86% / 72% / 76% / 71% / 83%
▸ EHP: 6,836 / 7,206 / 7,206 / 9,865 / 7,585 / 6,928 / 7,206

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 770
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (172)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,489)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Haste, Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (5/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Multistrike (28)
• Smite (28)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Aurelis
• Aurelis
• Wing Guards
• Bleeding Heart

[twilit pasture]

I didnt know if MS had the base to actually hold up as a ST skill with it, I always felt like any sent build I did kinda fell apart in ST situations

[polar spire]

the crit multi build that cannot crit

[twilit pasture]

how does aurelis actually work, is it 1 smite per hit or per cast of multistrike?

[south zephyr]

I smite per multistrike

[polar spire]

per multistrike use, but i just have it for the electrify and + skills

[south zephyr]

You might be able to swap one to Palarus for more smites

[coral dawn]

kind of sad forge strike's damage is mainly off of forged weapons at the moment

[south zephyr]

Not if you do some Sun forged Silliness

[coral dawn]

probably just too early to try forcing the anvil aspect to be the most damage

[wheat light]

whats your electrify dmg

[full prairie]

interesting, but i think i let that job to the enemies in the game . Mare some rare gloves with attument will do it.

[coral dawn]

yeah just hit level 35

so probably not going to have to that before 1.2

[south zephyr]

Ahh yeah up front no dice, just make weapons and be sad

Once 1.2 drops and you've got a nice +15 skill levels on it that will probably change

[polar spire]

well lets see here electrify is 44 base, + that lightning dot damage on top, and god knows how much pen
(note this is an untested theorycrafted build)

[wheat light]

you can see it in ailments

[polar spire]

yea, the fire pen and high attune of the judgement gloves are still fine, and those gloves are also easy to 3/4lp on if you also just wanna do that and exalt whatever onto them

like slot those gloves into the weaver tree and you should get a 3/4lp in no time

you can also get them as early as the chest room in one of the lvl 10-15 zones, the one with the secret bell boss

because the gloves are low level and can drop in that room

[south zephyr]

1482 Electrify damage from the planner

[polar spire]

i usually farm that room like 10 times, and pray they drop lol

[south zephyr]

That's without penetration scaling though I think

[wheat light]

yeah gotta add pen manually

[south zephyr]

And skill scaling

Probably closer to 5k a stack depending on applicator

[noble zenith]

cant wait to play this javelin electrify, almost 1500 electrify and some scaling missing from letools

the damage will be gooooood

[polar spire]

i feel like sierpins + divine fury for just lots of javs everywhere would be really fun in arena's

[wheat light]

wonder with all that crazy stacking if it will still be less dmg then vk warpath. warriors fury is dumb

such a broken node

[noble zenith]

farming with this will be crazy too

gonna clear maps so quickly

[wheat light]

poe2 lightning spear at home

[south zephyr]

How are you managing Mana?

[noble zenith]

the javazon

i played it on D2R, was fun ! gonna be even better on LE

[wheat light]

void well

[polar spire]

and then if you run high dex for the additional spears off sierpins, you can pickup shield throw for its new Hemrin's Technique and the skill can get up to 10 ricochets, grants frenzy, grants haste, and you have a solid armor steal and health gain off just that, can pre-throw the shield and then start jav chuckin

[coral dawn]

If im going to be forced into minions with forged weapons carrying through the campaign until sunforged set is obtained I think I would rather go for something less dependant on specific gear but my only backup right now has been a beastmaster, nothing specific yet, maybe lightning totem or scorpion

[cursive compass]

Where is my void knight void rive god

[noble zenith]

clearly i will test this after the siege barrage/divine fury

[polar spire]

theres also the fact that with that new paladin lightning dot based on crit multi, and how easy it is to build throw crit on sentinel, you can play sierpins divine fury jav as a crit/dot hybrid and actually make it work insanely well

there arent many builds that can actually hybrid crit and dot

jav is one that can do it

i'd imagine with the timerot changes, and a solid apathy maw, erasing strike can crit/dot hybrid now too

[wheat light]

you could as multistrike too but wing guards are too good

[ripe cargo]

wait

[polar spire]

hell even this abomination does wonders on forge strike

419-544% increased dot damage for all ailments on forge strike, doom included

and you can get up to 1500% inc stun

so 1500% inc dot damage for all ailments

[wheat light]

Im so hyped for 1 guaranteed mod for legendary crafting

[polar spire]

and massive survivability from the stun

[wheat light]

gonna make gearing sooo much less rng

actually makes me want to play CoF

[polar spire]

i always slotted 1 t7 per slot on my builds, because it wasnt too hard to achieve with 50 or so hours, but with the change its now far more reasonable to achieve

[wheat light]

it was pretty easy as MG

just a big pain for CoF

[lethal needle]

How would channeling warpath with the fire damage node count for the Immolator's Oblation unique belt? It says chance to ignite yourself when you use a fire or necrotic skill and chance to gain frenzy when you directy use a fire skill

[south zephyr]

Use

Not continue to cast

Sadly

[river sierra]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGj88ljQ okay final iteration of multistrike electrify

[wheat light]

but also MG inevitably gets screwed due to gold shennanigans

[river sierra]

letools burned into my eyeballs

[south zephyr]

I have faith. And time

[lethal needle]

very sad. That would have been perfect idea for my build :(

[vital sun]

I’m so excited to use my 3lp volcanus on the eternal realm

[south zephyr]

But also lol lmao CoF for life

[south zephyr]

I may literally just stay Legacy and make one new character given how much I have to play with now

Also not having to re-farm factions...

[vital sun]

Yeah that’s why plan

My

[mossy glacier]

Build?

[wheat light]

hmmm you think giving up attunement scaling is worth for water orbs?

[vital sun]

New character on legacy

[south zephyr]

Depends if DoT or Hit

[wheat light]

I guess its fine for early game

[river sierra]

unless im missing a key node in passives it didnt seem worth tbh, never played sentinel tho

[wheat light]

endgame I always try and plan around red rings so gotta pump up attributes

but thats mainly because I want to try ubers/1k+ corruption with this

[south zephyr]

Never found one sadge

Probably just need to farm Unique Ring prophecies

[wheat light]

I think with weavers tree it will be slightly easier

[river sierra]

if its dot is attunement worth?

[noble zenith]

i hope nothing happen this reset

[wheat light]

Im just gonna go CoF, dont want to play a week then have everything be worthless

[south zephyr]

Ucenui might be competitive in that case

[wheat light]

I also think code of the erased sentinel is so damn good

if you can get smite on it

[south zephyr]

I would but Vortex Pennant is required for my only good legacy character

[wheat light]

I guess the uber relic could compete

wonder if its 100% drop

[south zephyr]

Uber relic is absurd, but 1 LP on it would be brokenly absurd

[wheat light]

I mean it says 1 lp is 1 in 8

so not that hard

easily farmable

[south zephyr]

Nope not that hard 😁

[noble zenith]

wait i dont get it

[south zephyr]

I mean other than being from the peak of pinnacle content that I can't even do the base version of

[wheat light]

I mean yeah it assumes you can kill it

but with how busted sentinel is

you can probably eat a few mechs that other classes die to

[river sierra]

oh my god the uber abby gloves with max endurance threshold is insane

[wheat light]

weavers items just unlock random affixes as you gain xp

so its rng to get what you want each time

[noble zenith]

yeah but, this unique always been like this ? i though it was a regular unique that could roll LP

[wheat light]

nope

always been that way

all the class relics are weavers

[noble zenith]

ok thanks

this has to be very hard to roll the good one

guess i will stick to ucenui

[wheat light]

eh

it depends

they're a pretty common drop

just depends on how much waevers will they drop with

[analog steppe]

i wouldn't say "very hard", i got some pretty good ones in CoF with medium playtime

[wheat light]

and if you hit smite early you have pretty good odss of maxing it

[analog steppe]

plus the weavers tree has some nice weavers will focused nodes too

[noble zenith]

the thing is its really random while ucenui LP3 isnt that rare

i guess if i roll a good one i can play it

[wheat light]

kinda want to try a practice run with multistrike but its gonna be so much worse then 1.2

[river sierra]

can u numlock holy aura?

[analog steppe]

6% chance for rare enemies to drop a weavers will item in echoes
30% chance for weavers will amount to roll twice rather than once

[wheat light]

yeah

[shut ember]

question

[south zephyr]

Most of Uberroth drops appear to be BiS for like half the classes

[noble zenith]

yeah with the new system its gonna be easiertho

[shut ember]

when im in the build planner on maxroll and i try to look at set items, i'm only seeing like 4 helmets etc

are there really only 4 sets to pick from or are they adding more this patch

[wheat light]

what Im trying to cook is a version of the multistrike electrify with 100% block

not sure if possible

[wheat light]

dont think so. but the set shards are a little different

[candid anchor]

People level sent with hammers?? Or what

[analog steppe]

there are 7 helmets total, but some of them are class specific

[noble zenith]

there is 17 sets

[river sierra]

yea but i feel like the line where its -30% damage if below ur endurance threshold, if u have foot of the mountain and max threshold, thats a huggggeee dr

[noble zenith]

but set are not really good on LE ngl

( for the endgame atleast )

[candid anchor]

You see the changes to sets? lol

[noble zenith]

yeah they are better now

[analog steppe]

the only reason sets werent good was because you just got the affixes you got on them

set shards on the other hand have 4 more affixes on top

if you count the sealed one

[lethal needle]

How is there so few ways to get frenzy outside of being a void knight

[honest python]

Shield throw build looks so LIT

[short viper]

set shard sound pretty insane tbh, hard to consider all of the implications

[ripe cargo]

also a lot of sets were tied to inehrently bad mechanics

forgotten knight set is bis for a very long time now

Were any other sets changed direction or indirectly?

[polar spire]

the 2 sets that most saw use were last bears and shattered lance

[ripe cargo]

Corsairs set is now instantly good

[polar spire]

though a fair chunk of vk's still enjoyed the forgotten knight amulet, without the other pieces

[ripe cargo]

don't tell rogue players

but the helmet was good shield was bad

[polar spire]

Gum the Hlemt

[urban phoenix]

@polar spire ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOGjmKGB Thoughts?

[ripe cargo]

There are a lot of problems with this build and i'm genuinely not sure where to start.

[urban phoenix]

Hit me, i'd love to know where I went wrong.

[ripe cargo]

Your shield throw smite and vengeance all serve the same purpose

that's the biggest one

[urban phoenix]

Vengeance is proccing FW, shield throw is proccing smite.

[ripe cargo]

you don't want to do both

[urban phoenix]

Why not?

trying to stack ignites.

Is it just too janky?

I figured, vengeance spam, throw shield off cooldown.

the rest is pretty much automated

[ripe cargo]

so step one

are you a minion build

or are you not a minion build

you can't be both

this is not how this works

[urban phoenix]

No, im ignite stacking via the sunforged ignite shard, 12 FW gives you 440% ignite chance.

Minions are just there.

and acting as meat shields/bodies for mantle of the pale ox.

[polar spire]

in that case, are they immobile and generating you ward?

[urban phoenix]

Could do that for sure.

I didn't have it specced like that, but its fine to go that route.

[polar spire]

dont neglect that energy regen node, it says nearby but in reality its been bugged for 4+ years and generates ward on you no matter how far away you are

and the ward gen is so insanely fast, you get 400 ward at all times that instantly shoots back up to 400 fast enough that it feels like you have a 400 damagw shield against EVERY hit

[urban phoenix]

The plan was to test both and see which made more sense. The ward probably ends up being better though I imagine.

since they aren't gonna be doing tons of dmg themselves

[polar spire]

not doing much damage themselves, and as long as they're immobile and generating ward across the map, they arent being hit

[urban phoenix]

Makes sense.

[cobalt blade]

I am using FW similarly

The ward node huh

[urban phoenix]

I feel like you could also go bleed.

pretty easily

without FW

[polar spire]

good choice, the range exploit has existed the last 4ish years, makes it stupid strong, but because no one ever runs the nodes its never been covered enough to be fixed

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, vengeance I think is viable as a main or main-ish skill for bleed or flame burst

[polar spire]

its super viable for blame burst

i miss the old chain iron blade when you were flame bursting 3 enemies in a fat pack at the same time

[alpine canopy]

You should still be able to do that, iron blade chance is still on hit, not per use

[ripe cargo]

yeah

you cant get the bst of both worlds here sadly

[polar spire]

yea but it shoots in a straight line

chain meant no straight lines

[ripe cargo]

your gonna need to use a skill that generates the weapons

[urban phoenix]

Is taking this node but non-directly using smite allow you to take the knockback nodes behind it without gaining the giant mana cost?

[ripe cargo]

or a lot of mana

[alpine canopy]

as long as you overlap a few enemies in your little hit area, also helps if you have HH as a melee proc

[ripe cargo]

acutlalyn o

hold on

[polar spire]

yes

[urban phoenix]

Really? lol

[polar spire]

you can also go the fissure route now

because they made fissure direct only as well

saves points

[urban phoenix]

thats hilarious

[alpine canopy]

Just makes it less easy to do, but I was doing it on 1.1.7 with no chain and it felt pretty good even at the super low proc rate

[polar spire]

i did jav spears with smite knockback and turned the screen into pinball

[slim spire]

Dear all, can you recommend a sentinel build that won't change much in power & playstyle next patch? Need something to tide me over until 17. Thanks.

[polar spire]

its great if you run the exile bleed boots and have some form of slow chance, and then you're just pinballing enemies around the screen as they bleed out slowly running to you

[alpine canopy]

I think smite does still get the giant mana cost, just as long as you only proc it from free sources you're good

[slim spire]

I mean won't change much from current to next patch

[polar spire]

probably anything hammer related?

[urban phoenix]

As long as the procced version doesn't get the cooldown and cost, thats fine with me lol

[polar spire]

what will i do with all these hammers!? tripping over yourself while carrying too many hammers

[slim spire]

Oh that's a good idea

Never played a hammerdin in le

[polar spire]

i hate hammerdin's in any game that supports them

[slim spire]

Hopefully it won't feel cumbersome

[alpine canopy]

They definitely don't get the cooldown, but some smite procs do cost mana. The idols are free though.

[slim spire]

Since hammers are rotating around you

Gonna be a pain focusing a target

[slim spire]

Why's that?

[polar spire]

just not a playstyle i enjoy

[urban phoenix]

Yeah i'm just using the idols, thats perfect.

getting pretty excited for this build, hopefully it isn't too too janky.

[polar spire]

i think the closest thing to a hammer throw build i enjoyed was poe wings of entropy spectral throw that i selfmade and had fun with

[slim spire]

That's fair

[upper canopy]

alot of helath regen based within the abilites though

[slim spire]

Which build bob?

[polar spire]

you're getting eaten alive by the sheer amount of dots in the game, as well as floor dots

have fun in the poison spider caves

[urban phoenix]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AV24DGdA Cooked it up just a minute ago.

[slim spire]

Nice

[urban phoenix]

Probably still some changes to make to streamline, but i feel like it should at least work

[slim spire]

Ohhh lovely a FW build

[polar spire]

you want some afk forged weapons fun? take their self destruct node and run a pact severance 1h axe

[slim spire]

Ok I'm gonna scroll up now

Just to read up

[urban phoenix]

lol was looking at that the other day, kinda neat.

[polar spire]

i still love that every class supports a 0 button build via Pact Severance and Eterra's Path

[slim spire]

This is very interesting

[ripe cargo]

@urban phoenix https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olG4r6LB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (53) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,628, Regen: 251.46/s
▸ Mana: 186.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 48 Str / 13 Dex / 3 Int / 33 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 58% / 62% / 115% / 137% / 105% / 83%
▸ EHP: 6,265 / 5,355 / 5,544 / 10,107 / 6,595 / 6,265 / 6,265

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 676
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,047)
▸ Block Chance: 15%, Mitigation: 24% (390)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Throwing, Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Shield Throw (21)
• Smite (21)
• Javelin (21)
• Forge Strike (24)
• Symbols of Hope (21)

Used unique items:

• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[ripe cargo]

i turned forge stirke into a buff spell for you

your welcome

[urban phoenix]

Wasn't actually planning on using forge strike at all, but that global fire pen does look quite nice huh.

Thanks!

[upper canopy]

what would u recommend to aadd more health regen in the build??

and keep in mind in the build most are T5 not maxed

[quiet hearth]

there is a lot less electrify that I would like on the trees

[polar spire]

its not so much regen you need, but more health

1700 is stupid low

[slim spire]

So you can get 2 ripostes from 1 vengeance right. So are both triggered off 1 enemy hit, or separate?

[polar spire]

its per hit

it used to be a lot of fun against imperial watchers because they used to machine gun fire you and you'd sit on their face and spam out 20 ripostes in 2s

[slim spire]

So if enemy is not hitting me twice per vengeance, the extra riposte is wasted then? Or do they accumulate?

[polar spire]

wasted

but the chances of it being wasted are slim

[slim spire]

Rip

Thanks

[polar spire]

• you can take the cant be crit node and then never build avoidane or crit reduction

[slim spire]

Ya that's my plan as well, it's so good

[slim spire]

Bob I've checked your build, so where does the shield throw come in? I got a bit confused on that

[urban phoenix]

Basically just huck it out off cooldown for frenzy, it procs smite.

could also remove the cooldown and spam as well.

either way

[slim spire]

I see

[ripe cargo]

don't worry i fix

I did make some mistakes

[slim spire]

In that case, when are you spamming vengeance?

[ripe cargo]

it fix

[urban phoenix]

enough to keep FW up essentially

[ripe cargo]

don't worry

[urban phoenix]

Thats why i figured the cooldown on shield throw would be fine, but it will take some feeling out to get the balance right.

[slim spire]

Then isn't warpath better? You just summon all weapons prefight or between them, then in fight you actually spam shield throw

[urban phoenix]

Absolutely could be for sure.

could also get the axe throw in there if you go that route.

[upper canopy]

soo here is whaat im playing at start https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6glq9pQ

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (33) / Paladin (60)

General:

▸ Health: 3,187, Regen: 91.2/s
▸ Mana: 140.95, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 83 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 105% / 95% / 93% / 76% / 83% / 88%
▸ EHP: 6,835 / 6,835 / 6,835 / 9,006 / 6,835 / 6,835 / 6,835

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 787
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,306)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Javelin (24)
• Symbols of Hope (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Smite (20)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Tu'rani's Bident
• Stormtide
• Elecoe's Innovation
• Orian's Sun Seal

[upper canopy]

keep in mind there is no blesssing or idols either so some gear may change but

[tired sorrel]

this looks fun

[urban phoenix]

The one big difference with having shield throw spammable, is that it doesn't ricochet off you anymore, so single target may actually suffer a bit.

Each throw would be 6 hits with the cooldown version.

[rigid dragon]

is void knight going to be good this season at least or is it still the bottom of the three specs of sentinel and the bottom of all the classes?

[short viper]

it'll be good

full void conversion on rive and the elemental to void defensive conversion is enough to make sure it's at least viable

[rigid dragon]

build recommendations

haha theres a big difference between viable and a good class

so im guesing its the same paladin hammers etc is the top

[polar spire]

what the hell

vk is largely considered the best mastery by far

how in the world did you reach that

[rigid dragon]

? last season it was the worst

The ladders always had that stupid beastmaster/rogue mage classes as top

and they were constantly one shotting bosses

VK cant do what they did

[robust lake]

ES vks could

[polar spire]

and what did sentinel leaderboards show?

[robust lake]

u'd need stupid gear but yeh

[polar spire]

dont look at other classes, just sentinel

[rigid dragon]

Sentinel showed Paladin and some forge knights at top

there was maybe one vk in the top 50

and when all classes no sentinel at all

[polar spire]

well with sentinel changes, that may change for this season

[robust lake]

ya vk looks stronk in 1.2

[short viper]

vk has been behind since 1.0 because they didn't get the same boost from HH that paladin did but before that it was definitely the best

[robust lake]

we'll see where it lands lol

[short viper]

it should be back though, ES is always good and rive should be fine again

[wheat light]

I mean warpath with the scaling node should be insane depending on how long you can sustain

just wont be one shotting

[polar spire]

ES and judgement should both be capable of 1 shotting

[short viper]

warpath has always struggled but i haven't taken a fine comb to the changes to it

[slim spire]

Yeah cd will also be easier on mana. You can also alternate with forge strike on cd tbh, not sure how the rotation would be, aka how long the downtime is. 1 good thing on doing that is you can totally cut vengeance too

[wheat light]

its basically just the new node making warpath scale to infinity

[polar spire]

the node its always had?

[urban phoenix]

Could also maybe sneak a bunch of CD recovery in as well and get that lower if needed.

lots of options either way

[wheat light]

yeah but new vk passive can make it sustain

[polar spire]

maw of the deep right?

unless vk's got something that lets time rot go above 12 stacks

[urban phoenix]

Maw of the Deep looks cool, i like that its generic dmg too, i wanna try it with sunforged hammer at some point.

[short viper]

i'm just happy vit stacking rive will actually make sense, on account of full conversion

I was still playing void rive before and basically disregarding phys so this could only be an improvement

[quiet hearth]

I decided to look at electrify and good grief you gotta be scrouning for that mod on items

[robust lake]

dont u like convert things into it

[quiet hearth]

For the most part, but I was just surprised given how much support is there for the other stuff

[polar spire]

I know apathy maw is the go to for vk stuff

But i wanna do something with Black Blade of Chaos

You know what, with changes to devouring orb, i wonder if shadow beacon will finally see use

Empathica, i want you to season start as a shield rush build and tell me how bad it desyncs

[quiet hearth]

I almost wanna play offline just so I can play lightning bear

[rigid dragon]

Hey Amadora am i allowed to message you directly to ask something please

[short viper]

synergies on the sword just don't play out as well, you'd really want to stack dex to make the most of it but the applications for that are limited - you'd want some second order dex conversion like forge guard converting evasion to armor

[polar spire]

I dont do dm's

Just pop it in here

[short viper]

game will be true 1.0 for me when shield rush works without a hitch

[rigid dragon]

Ok ill ask and hopefully dont cop abuse like on D4 channels or POE2

What is ES and HH

[quiet hearth]

erasing strike and healing hands

[short viper]

energy shield and headhunter

oh wait=

[cold rose]

found the poe traitor

[short viper]

my cover is blown

[bold horizon]

get him bois

[polar spire]

The amount of my friends jumping ship from poe2 to last epoch is staggering

[quiet hearth]

this last patch was the best epoch ad I have seen yet

[rigid dragon]

ok so what would you recommend i play, last league i played someone named Allies Auto bomber it felt ok but when i was only like 100 corruption friends were hitting 3x my amount

[polar spire]

"Last epoch got delayed for this!?"

[cold rose]

void knight spin to win

[bold horizon]

I've been working on this since the patch notes dropped phys crit forged weapons https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALqDqZxQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (67) / Paladin (11)

General:

▸ Health: 3,393, Regen: 122.4/s
▸ Mana: 327.61, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 9 Dex / 1 Int / 96 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 114% / 74% / 102% / 100% / 76% / 78%
▸ EHP: 14,574 / 14,574 / 14,429 / 23,082 / 15,341 / 14,574 / 14,574

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 811
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,822)
▸ Block Chance: 72%, Mitigation: 49% (1,941)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Rallying Block (10/10)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (20)
• Forge Strike (26)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Ring Of Shields (26)
• Manifest Armor (26)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Sierpin's Fractal Tree
• Mantle of the Pale Ox

[cold rose]

very newbie friendly

[polar spire]

Oh i remember that streamer
Jesus we havent gotten a new season in ages, that feels like it was so long ago

[cold rose]

plays itself

[quiet hearth]

I mean you can play anything really, play what's fun to you honestly, unless you're pushing deep corruption you'll be fine

[rigid dragon]

lol yup

[polar spire]

If you just want a season start farmer for other builds, imo werebear is always the best and newb friendly for that

[rigid dragon]

but ive always loved the void in any game i play, the void is home for me lol

Nah screw bears lol wanna play a VK

lol

[short viper]

vk rive is back to being beginner friendly

[polar spire]

You can slam your face into your keyboard repeatedly when setting up werebear build and it'll still work

[urban phoenix]

Unsurprised, i've got like 6000 hours in PoE 1 and barely played PoE 2.

[quiet hearth]

Im still waiting for parity with bugman and bearman, bearman gets so much for so little

[winter niche]

I always wanted to make an orbs and or echoes build that felt good. Hopefully the changes will be enough

[polar spire]

Abyssal echoes support/healer was so much fun for me, sitting in ALL boss mechanics and healing 5000 a second

But VR mana refund is gone so that build is gone too

[winter niche]

There’s always cool tech that takes a bit to come out

[polar spire]

There isnt cool tech for that specific one

[short viper]

i haven't tried new vr, what's the difference?

[cold rose]

all of it

whole new kit

[robust lake]

to begin with there's no longer 30% inc dmg and 60% dmg taken for 4 seconds, there's 15% dot couple-pointer xD for 12 seconds

[cold rose]

its a combo skill

[short viper]

vr amp was like fully half the class ICANT

[polar spire]

VR is a good source of frenzy now if you want that i guess
Sword Catcher + VR

[robust lake]

75% raw damgur was lost :(

[short viper]

they dug up my rive build to shoot it in the head again 😔

[robust lake]

its a buff

[quiet hearth]

and it's likely still better than most other skills in the game bullet wound and all

[short viper]

going from "third strike always crits" to "third strike has double crit chance" was brutal

new vk passives sort of even it out

5% base crit and extra % chance that wasn't there before, downside is that the easiest solution is peak of the mountain which is not quite as meta as it used to be but is still in high demand

[quiet hearth]

the 5% base crit there is wild

[robust lake]

then it drops 3LP but 244% 💀

[grand bear]

You say combo skill, I say I'm just teleporting around doing abyssal echoes 😎

[polar spire]

ive never looked at the weaved echoes till now

this is COOL AF

i kinda wanna make an arena gladiator build and run that

[vernal frigate]

yea there are some crazy woven echoes

[polar spire]

oooo that'd help me get my Immolator's Oblation for my build

i grabbed all the loot lizard nodes because dopamine

[alpine canopy]

Oblation is a boss drop, this lools like it's for soul gambler only

[polar spire]

yes its a boss drop, but i couldve sworn you could get it off the soul gambler too

[alpine canopy]

Nope, but there are the 3 soul gambler only uniques that that should help a lot with

[polar spire]

i think there was a weaver node or 2 that mentioned boss specific drops, i'll check those instead then

[quiet hearth]

They really did cook for this, enabling the ability to get things from other content, even a trickle for people who dont like that content is a good move

[polar spire]

yea i really enjoy the weaver tree

definitely feels better than poe's atlas

[quiet hearth]

Like, you have to grind it out, but it's at least a chance, especially if you are a dirty CoF player

[polar spire]

and imagine, weaver tree will most likely get expanded upon with each new season as new things come out

because theres a node that makes it so loot lizards can spawn alongside champions, i have all the increased champion spawn rate nodes, as well as the double champion spawns

and holy crap my maps are going to kill me

[quiet hearth]

wow I forgot how much electrify HH can get

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dawYVA
alright, my season 2 starter, fire paladin, volcanus

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (58)

General:

▸ Health: 3,034, Regen: 182.32/s
▸ Mana: 270.51, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 66 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 112% / 112% / 82% / 94% / 83% / 84%
▸ EHP: 8,390 / 8,390 / 8,390 / 11,088 / 8,831 / 8,390 / 8,390

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,385
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,767)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (20/20), Frenzy, Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (5/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (20)
• Healing Hands (22)
• Vengeance (24)
• Symbols of Hope (28)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Volcanus
• Logi's Hunger
• Falcon Fists
• Immolator's Oblation
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal

[alpine canopy]

Those would be good nodes if you were trying to get access to the secret lizard level, if such a level existed. But it doesn't, of course.

[quiet hearth]

I wanna use Volconus so badly but everything I make with it just doesnt work becaue those spikes are just not worth it

[polar spire]

honestly though, should prob drop the health regen blessing for the stun chance one

[radiant vortex]

Big Arena -> Champs -> Lizards

[polar spire]

oh my lord stop

i almost want to now

but i hate arena's

i'll make an arena specific build next

i do love my lunge missing health gladiators

[little temple]

They arent Arenas anymore. They are lizard pits. Do the lizard pits

[vernal frigate]

im gonna give arenas a chance with all the new changes

should be way better

[polar spire]

i'll make my alt an arena glad

[quiet hearth]

I love stacking lunge recovery and just regaining like 1500 of my missing hp

[polar spire]

people really skip out on it, and its so disgusting

[quiet hearth]

it's like a forgiveness button

actually, those idols might be even better now, I gotta look at what they can roll now

[polar spire]

and now i can pair it with orian's sun seal + divine flare symbols 20% max health heal??

cant make a true gladiator without the fighting chance gloves

HIT ME

[radiant vortex]

arenas are gettin buffed anyway then you add ontop that you can shorten them by 2 waves and replace em with super arena's which guarantee champions

[polar spire]

yea i just prefer running through area's instead of sitting in 1 spot

i'll make my alt an arena gladiator

friend says you wanna spec your weaver tree according to getting the currency and leveling up the faction for a while first, and then respeccing it later

[quiet hearth]

I might do the chaining stun hammers for areanas

[marble topaz]

In arenas, the loot comes to you. It’s like the doordash of shinies.

[vernal frigate]

Anyone know if you need devouring orb on your ability bar for it to autocast itself with the Abyssal Rush node?

if not then gonna fit in a free nice rebuke

[paper kettle]

isnt sentinel ULTRAnerfed after volatile reversal? im leveling and missing it dearly

[radiant vortex]

I mean yeah definetly

That's how it always works with these kinds of systems

Max out point generation first to unlock all asap

[vernal frigate]

i dont think so, almost every skill got buffed to compensate for not needing volatile reversal anymore

[radiant vortex]

No no no it's definetly nerfed

Don't look at the 10m dps timerot or onetap ES, never mind the fact that Paladin is still functionally immortal or that FG might have viable builds to it

[tired sorrel]

why did they need VR before? (I'm new to sentinel)

[radiant vortex]

VR was a reset all your shit button for every sentinel build

[polar spire]

"FG might have viable builds to it" maaaaaan

FG has viable builds

[short viper]

vr was a damag multiplier of like 2.4x on the high end

[polar spire]

it prob just has more now

[radiant vortex]

Sure it did luv, sure it did

the best of builds

[short viper]

i made like 6 hardcore forge guards that got to 90+, they were great defensively at least

[polar spire]

depending on the way you built ailment forge strike, you could bleed pop anywhere between 2-8mill damage every 5s

[quiet hearth]

Like FG isnt bad by anymeans, just needs some tweaks to bring it in line with the changes that VK and pally got this patch

[polar spire]

it has viable builds, but i'll still say EHG has no idea wtf they want to do with FG

[short viper]

it should be pretty good now, the passive changes will carry

i can see a couple nodes that might not even last the season

[tired sorrel]

too bad forgemaster's might is all the way in right field, kinda makes the leveling wonk a bit

[polar spire]

thank god vk's cant get it

[radiant vortex]

the downsides are such you wouldn't want it early anyway

[polar spire]

just imagining Apathy Maw with Bulwark of the Abyss on a VK

[tired sorrel]

just on the other side of the mastery fence would have been nice

[radiant vortex]

Just do that on FG tho =) Big doom

[polar spire]

in reality, yes, especially on forge strike