🔱┃sentinel

[fluid sparrow]

But I gett just go void dmg, and first rely on % void dmg to be able totransition smoother

[spring pollen]

I guess they do last a really long time with a few bonuses

[south zephyr]

Yep and you can scale attack speed and it's good for them too

Plus with the attunement now you should be doing iron blades at least half the time

And you want attunement for then anyways

[spring pollen]

Trying to figure out if it is better to go flat melee fire damage or try and make sunforged set affixes work.

I’m going from a FW to boost my own flat damage angle

[south zephyr]

Still should work with SF set

And yeah Vengeance is amazing as a generator for survivability

[alpine canopy]

It's 100% chance for iron blades when you have enough attunement, which you will for FWs since you want attunement for them

[south zephyr]

He's not scaling the weapons the weapons are scaling him, so less attunement

[shell wedge]

would the ring siphon of anguish leech be enough to sustain with a warpath devouring orb build

[alpine canopy]

Oh, using them for the set or something?

Yeah, less attunement then, you only need to hit 40% for 100% chance though

Multistrike is still the most effective way to summon FWs, and is a really strong skill now, so would probably be better than vengeance for a self damage angle

[spring pollen]

Yeah I would be using them for set bonus to try boost flat fire damage for FS and SW

Multi strike has no fire conversion right? But I guess could still work well

[alpine canopy]

Using FS on packs does well for clearing

[alpine canopy]

Right, but neither does FS and I don't think SW has one either

although SW is half fire at least

[spring pollen]

Ohhh right I’ll double check

By the way I was also looking at ways to get overleech. We chatted before about using and hp to ward affix to do it. Any new ways you can think of? I saw some gloves that might work…

[orchid flint]

yeah the idea is to have orbiting devouring orbs and use vr to hit everything and slow. then erasing strike for guranteed echo

[alpine canopy]

I'm not sure if the hit damage taken over time will allow overleech, but it's something that will be worth testing (though testing things where you have to take hits is a bit harder lol)

[tacit zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqZO6e5B feedback is appreciated (not focused everything in detail just genericly what id aim for)

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (26) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,089, Regen: 151.34/s
▸ Mana: 237.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 5 Dex / 24 Int / 56 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 170% / 100% / 132% / 82% / 82% / 78% / 74%
▸ EHP: 5,179 / 5,179 / 5,179 / 7,945 / 5,452 / 5,179 / 5,128

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 739
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,442)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (1/20), Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (22)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Immolator's Oblation
• Peak of the Mountain
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Scales of Eterra
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Soulfire

[fluid sparrow]

Yeah from what I can count, you need 50% timr rot chance elsewhere and you can single target 12 stacks with VR (unless I misscalc)

[orchid flint]

well i wasn't going to build into timerot. just use vengence void for single target

[fluid sparrow]

The Erasing stirke gains 100% more damage against enemies who have 12 stacks of time rot I mean :P, so VR (which applies 12 stacks) => Erasing strike

but unsure if the 12 stacks is easily done with VR Void bolts

[candid lintel]

Whats going to be more fun a void build or a smite build

[scenic gyro]

why not both in one

[orchid flint]

you can play void smite

[abstract edge]

multistrike is better than forgestrike for summoning?

[analog steppe]

so I've been contemplating the All-Consuming Dorb time rot build, and wondering if instead of higher duration and abyssal orb shooting, would it be worthwhile considering the less duration and eruption branch of the tree for another +90% more multi for bossing (also doesnt turn off the stacking void rift more multi as well)

anyone whos been following the build ideas feel free to chime in on this

[cursive compass]

where is my vk rive at

[orchid flint]

because the void bolts can shotgun if you both the void bolts nodes then it probably will be really quick to apply

plus time rot with devouring orb

[fluid sparrow]

the returning ones is enough, cuz it says 4 hits, then 4 pointer before it applies 200% time rot, get 50% elsewhere... 4*250% => 12 stacks, no? 😄

[shut geyser]

Never played a sentinel before, flirting with Void Smite Vk for the 17.
ya'll reckon thats a good starter? with some lategame capability too?

[orchid flint]

thats probably one of the best if not the best starter

[clever hazel]

not even close, look at the offense tab and see how much electrify damage you lose if you make that change (it drops from 1407 to 1229; aka ~15% less electrify damage; you've misunderstood what crit multi does in this build, read Judgment of the Storm again lol)

[shut geyser]

Sounds good. what about endgame? i tend to only play 1 char per season

[orchid flint]

yes scales really well into endgame too. can't go wrong also easy to gear and play

[waxen nymph]

Yes and yes

[orchid flint]

also vengence now applies time rot as well so for bosses and rares you can also use vengence for the timerot and the 45% multi for erasing strike

[waxen nymph]

I did a run with it in 1.1 (current patch) and took it to Abberoth

[shut geyser]

Cool. probably going to play it then probably should go with symbols, orb and anomaly for buffing myself right?

[orchid flint]

yeah and devouring orb

[waxen nymph]

Exactly what I did

[orchid flint]

yeah devoruing orb is crazy now its so much utility

[waxen nymph]

Orbiting DOrb (will be much smoother) for clear

[orchid flint]

and damage all in 1

[waxen nymph]

Smite for single target

[orchid flint]

the void beams could also help with clear now

[junior wren]

You don't have 3 points in Divine Bolt in Paladin tree = missing +1 additional bolt.
You're missing Righteous Firebrand in Paladin tree = up to 50%+ Fire Pen
You're missing Conviction in Paladin tree = up to 16% Fire Pen and up to 16% inc Fire damage
Only 3/5 points in Divine Bolts in Healing Hands tree. If you max it out, it's more damage 🙂
Your blessings are non-empowered versions.

Other than that, it's looking pretty good I would go for Wrongwarp (Wand) or Shattered Cycle (Scepter).

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, unless you can spam forge strike, which takes significant investment. Multistrike gives 1 armament stack per swing, which translates to +1 FW on your next forge strike, basically 100% spawn chance on hit against any enemy (compared to forge strike only getting 100% spawn chance against rares/bosses and taking 3 skill points in forge strike to do that)

Granted, if you're able to hit multiple enemies with the tiny area of vengeance, you could theoretically summon several FWs per swing, but that's super situational

[golden swallow]

anyone have a utube video on how smite fissure looks like

[waxen nymph]

Its fonctionality is changing a lot in the new patch. There is no content available for it now

[golden swallow]

i see just wanted to check how it looks like visually "if its cool"

i really like smite visual just not sure how the fissure gonna behave

[waxen nymph]

I expect a new look too tbh

Because rn it looks pretty bad

[terse hedge]

anyone cooking some Smelter's builds?

[waxen nymph]

The lightning conversion should look amazing 🤞🤞

[alpine canopy]

btw Vlad, I tried updating the rav aura build to S2, I didn't feel like I had room for dorb 😔
but maybe if I do a shield setup instead of palarus I could replace smite? ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqZMl82B

[radiant vortex]

I see ms on those idols 👀

zoomadin

[shut geyser]

what stats would you focus on for void smite vk? you get a bunch of free crit multi from VK tree and vitality gives spell dmg so probably those.
otherwise just focus on crit, spell/void dmg and tankiness?

[tacit zealot]

i was focusing more into attunement for the "battle standard" on javelin and healing eff to power damage and the healing amount over going for straight up a lot of pen since i get both damage and survivability it was more asking about defensive so mb for not specifying.

blessings being normal was on purpose since i may have to farm normal monos to get gear to move on to corruption.

as for the bolts i thought adding more is just essential more area and doesnt increase damage if you only hit with 3 of them in a cone out of a potential 8 or so?

[waxen nymph]

Vengeance ? 💀

[waxen nymph]

Vitality, increase Dmg, Cast speed

[alpine canopy]

I plan to use vengeance to break warpath to open my window for 1.8x VC damage after channeling warpath, and vengeance gives 1.74x damage to VC on its own

[waxen nymph]

1.74?

Oh yeah

2 more dmg

[tacit zealot]

also wouldnt i benefit more from mad alchs because of the 6% per negative ailment? i already do ignite from gear and passives (skill passives) along with frailty and shred armour?

[waxen nymph]

Honestly, remove Smite, take DOrb

All converging to Void Dot

[tacit zealot]

the 2 you suggested has a few stats i cant take advantage of at least mad alchs scales damage and cast speed along with adding small amounts of other helpful benifits

[radiant vortex]

Mad ladle is good more dmg esp if you hit the ailment limit

the issue is you have no base dmg from it

[junior wren]

Sentinels don't usually have much INT, so unless you wanna farm a Legendary Mad Ladle, your cast speed will suffer. That's why Shattered Cycle was one of my recommendations.

[radiant vortex]

You'd need to like perfect roll 3 mods into it to outcompete many other options for just general dps on most spells

[junior wren]

FinnBear already said the rest 😄

[tacit zealot]

i egt 8 from eterra hahaha

[radiant vortex]

ladle was busted before they nerfed immolators to oblivion (cos of locks =P sorry bout that)

[tacit zealot]

i dont have an issue changing to one suggested i just didnt think they would be better than a generic exalt since a bunch of the stats i cant use

[radiant vortex]

fat source of added dmg x more spell = giga

[tacit zealot]

locks?

[radiant vortex]

warlock

[alpine canopy]

I just wish dorb DOT was more than 100% per second base 🥲
but maybe the global 1.1x void damage can make up for it?

[tacit zealot]

ahh

[radiant vortex]

self bleed turned to self ignite stackin with immolators

massive amounts of flat added dmg

[waxen nymph]

It will be good, trust
I will steal your Vengeance tech probably though

Not sure what I prefer

Vengeance or Symbol

[radiant vortex]

but oh then came 1.1

[junior wren]

Shattered Cycle may "only" have spelldmg and cast speed, but it has up to 65 spelldmg and up to 36 cast speed, that will beat your Ladle with 16 spelldmg, 4% Cast Speed and 48% more Spell damage.

[radiant vortex]

120 down to 40 D: you get more on any wand

[tacit zealot]

would i be better off using a regular crit chance base cata then instead of eterras blessing?

slotted it in because up to 22 int. more attunement to scale healing and javelin battle standard

[covert phoenix]

there is not a lot of thing that "beat" 48% more damage, especially if you are talking about additive stuff such as spelldamage or cast speed

[alpine canopy]

Symbol is good, but when I moved off of it, my passive points felt so much freer (not that the 15 pally points were bad though, pally tree is pretty solid)

and vengeance is definitely more damage, and potentially makes bossing a good bit safer maybe

[junior wren]

There is.

[tacit zealot]

more?

[covert phoenix]

not the item you quoted tho

[junior wren]

the item I quoted fits the bill

[alpine canopy]

I will definitely try running dorb instead of smite though, I will trust in the void

[radiant vortex]

Marina's is busted if you just want flat dmg + some speed

[tacit zealot]

where yall getting "more" from?? i thought more was multiplicative where i only see flat/base spell damage

[alpine canopy]

and speccing out of warpath smites lets me make my warpath void, too, but I still can't escape having a fire skill since fire smites are going to get procced by palarus 😂

[tacit zealot]

game usually says "more"

[junior wren]

the weapon you picked says:

6% more Spell Damage per Negative Ailment on the Target (up to 8)

[tacit zealot]

ahh i thought you was on about shattered

[junior wren]

more importantly, the Ladle you wanted only drops from Exiled Mages, so good luck farming the LP version 😛

[tacit zealot]

weavers adds mages though no?

[radiant vortex]

ladles issue is that 48% more of 16 is only ~24 total

Sure you got inc inbetween there

[junior wren]

meanwhile you can just use a rune of ascendancy to get the other two I recommended

[radiant vortex]

But wrongwarp is giving base 60 which then gets 3% inc per MS you might have

[tacit zealot]

im not being combative just trying to understand that all

[alpine canopy]

For ladle builds you just need a non-weapon source of flat spell damage, which as a VK that's usually vitality
Ladle isn't a good option if you don't have a flat spell damage source like that

[radiant vortex]

And 3% per ms is easy to turn to like 90% inc

[tacit zealot]

thats all the move speed i have

45% if i got max rolls (more if i get t7)

[south zephyr]

Base value depends on two things, damage effectiveness of the skill and base damage of the skill

[alpine canopy]

Uniques with any 1 T7 of your choice are going to be super accessible in S2

[tacit zealot]

wouldnt a generic exalted come close to shattered then?

[covert phoenix]

one is LPL 17 and the other is LPL 72, are you seriously believing it goes in favor of shattered cycle?

[radiant vortex]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqZO6e5B was this you sgt?

[south zephyr]

I.e. base damage of 60 with 200% effectiveness, adding 60 more flat is essentially 300% more

[radiant vortex]

shows 57% avg to me

[junior wren]

now go read where it drops

[covert phoenix]

yes, and you can easily reset in order to farm exiled mage at the start of an echo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVKouEFwSSs

[tacit zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olGeG7nB looks like it but here it is again just in case lol

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (26) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,089, Regen: 151.34/s
▸ Mana: 237.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 5 Dex / 24 Int / 56 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 170% / 100% / 132% / 82% / 82% / 78% / 74%
▸ EHP: 5,179 / 5,179 / 5,179 / 7,945 / 5,452 / 5,179 / 5,128

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 739
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,442)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (1/20), Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (22)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Immolator's Oblation
• Peak of the Mountain
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Scales of Eterra
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Soulfire

[south zephyr]

That's getting massively nerfed actually

[radiant vortex]

not anymore in tomb*

[covert phoenix]

ok, my bad in this case

[junior wren]

the TLDR is ... when you have everything from your planner - high % Fire damage, and high crit, high % Healing, high Fire Pen, etc., then MAYBE Legendary Ladle will outperform other Legendary options.
Until you get there, don't use Ladle.

[radiant vortex]

They're making it so when you repeat open echoes random events become more and more unlikely

[radiant vortex]

nah all those incs are worthless with ladle if no source of flat dmg

that's the only difference for using ladle

Do you have a good source of flat that's not your main hand weapon

[junior wren]

He gets flat. it's divine bolts

[tacit zealot]

but would an exalted be better than shattered? if its outright better then ill gladly slot it in i just dont like having redundant stats i cant use

[little shadow]

has anybody designed a minion build for FG yet? in preperation for 17th

[junior wren]

but first he needs to get that 1000 % healing

hence, my post

[fair verge]

Do we know if abyssal orb on abyssal emission can apply time rot via world rot?

[radiant vortex]

whered divine bolts get added dmg

[junior wren]

It might, it depends on your overall gear situation.

[junior wren]

from healing hands tree

[tacit zealot]

isnt added flat damage?

[inland quarry]

I think healing hands ward is going to be decent again because the patch notes said it was giving out too little ward, less than intended

[radiant vortex]

oh yeah thats busted

[tacit zealot]

they did some changes to how much ward you get per fast casts

[junior wren]

it's already nerfed, it was busted in 1.0 🙂

[radiant vortex]

everything was busted in 1.0

[tacit zealot]

thats also 61%

[radiant vortex]

like 4 different infinite ward shenanigans, screen wide explodes that kill any boss let alone mobs

[inland quarry]

Hh is still pretty weak damage wise.

[tacit zealot]

104%

[junior wren]

yes, that's your source of % more damage

[radiant vortex]

Gettin inc is rarely the issue

[junior wren]

this isn't % more damage, that's %increase

[tacit zealot]

and this

[radiant vortex]

You need base dmg to scale

[bitter lintel]

anyone good with math/ how damage scales for erasing strike? trying to get a general idea how much deeps this type build would do https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALqXqdjQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,487, Regen: 36.6/s
▸ Mana: 294.53, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 45 Vit
▸ Resistances: 166% / 125% / 111% / 81% / 107% / 94% / 81%
▸ EHP: 4,910 / 4,910 / 4,910 / 6,728 / 5,168 / 4,910 / 4,910

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 878
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,172)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 1%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/3,Passive)

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Void Cleave (22)
• Symbols of Hope (22)
• Anomaly (22)
• Abyssal Echoes (22)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• Shattered Chains
• Siphon of Anguish
• Phantom Grip
• Nihilis
• Stymied Fate

[junior wren]

yes, that's also % more damage

[radiant vortex]

oh world splitter already like this on principle

[tacit zealot]

yeah if i mean "more" ill mention more the last 2 ss i posted are increased

so a lot of my damage is based on active skill use also

[junior wren]

What FinnBear is telling you about Ladle is that you need this:

[tacit zealot]

i know haha im not on about lade no more

[junior wren]

oh okay

[tacit zealot]

on about a generic exalted vs shattered

[radiant vortex]

you got some conditional crit going somewhere or just strugglin with that 40%

[alpine canopy]

No, world rot modifies the dorb aura, which the abyssal orbs shot don't have

[junior wren]

in general LP Unique > T7 Exalted > Unique

[tacit zealot]

if its gonna be BIS early (rng dependant) ill hunt for it but as mentioned earlier the useless skills give me the ick lol

[radiant vortex]

oh none of the buffs are turned on

[junior wren]

there are probably exceptions, but usually 1LP with T7 slam beats my previously equipped exalted item

[tacit zealot]

that planner was just a generic what id hunt for im still basing all this on mediocre gear

and what id be aiming for

[fair verge]

Ah okay. Thanks! Think the vk passives for applying time rot on hit would still let abyssal orb apply it?

[bitter lintel]

just threw it together mainly with gear/idols... more concerned with skills/passive choices i think there is some crit on trees i selected... but otherwise prob need more sources

[radiant vortex]

yeah you seem to be using some of the good base crit stuff but not really enough scalin to justify it

[little shadow]

does anybody have a minion FG build planned for the new patch on the 17th yet?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, definitely - and it will still get the DOT multiplier from eternal decay and the void pen on rift caller

[bitter lintel]

how would you scale that for that build? it's hard to theory craft for me as i hvaent touched it since 1.0-ish and did cthonic and bear shit

[radiant vortex]

I don't know the new combo stuff for VK yet meaning what feeds into what in a way that the planner can't tell you

[tacit zealot]

does the build planner calcs take into account things like battle standard and symbols going off? im only at 708% healing effectiveness and unsure what i could swap to get it to 1000% without sacrificing defence or damage

[radiant vortex]

but you got decent base dmg and some massive scalin so should be doing fine

[fair verge]

Awesome!

[junior wren]

no, sadly the build planners are incomplete in various ways. The best way is to check actual numbers in-game

[alpine canopy]

No, it also doesn't calculate attribute scaling on skills

[south zephyr]

Mouse hover will show what it's counting

[tacit zealot]

so yeah ill have more than 708% since its not including some skills and their passives

[alpine canopy]

You probably get a good chunk from attunement

[radiant vortex]

oh the planner doesn't count splitters added base from mana cost

[tacit zealot]

could i get away with losing the base crit chance on offhand? i could farm a rahyeh shield for inc fire damage and healing eff

[noble zenith]

ah you're right i forgot to check about that, i still dont understand how 80% lightning dot outdmg so much 400% dot dmg

[tacit zealot]

im at 73% with etteras blessing

stats set to min

93 on average

[bitter lintel]

good catch.. yea it added the Cmulti but can't know the mana cost i guess

[tacit zealot]

that goes to 58/62 if i put rahyeh shield on

[radiant vortex]

• okay your idols are all the lowest tier
• you could have more chance / multi on other pieces of gear as well (set up your blessings as well)
• but actually lookin at the scalin I think with ~10-15% more base crit from splitter added in you should be crittin fairly well (~85%)

[clever hazel]

increased damage is additive with other sources of increased damage; Judgment of the Storm does not convert crit multi into increased damage for lightning DoT, it converts it into more damage for lightning DoT, which is its own separate multiplier

[radiant vortex]

so up the idols, get your crit chance without the world splitter countin to ~50-60% and you should be good on that <_<

[noble zenith]

ok thanks you

[radiant vortex]

beyond that you got like 900+% inc void dmg, 230 base, 350+% crit multi, I guess at that point its just fixing the aps

[bitter lintel]

what about skills choices? figured cleave to move/debuff/abyssal echo drop then anomaly if needed and big smash EStrike with the passive buffs from sigils to damage

[radiant vortex]

I can't help you there exactly I am yet to delve the new VK stuff

what interacts best with what and so forth

[analog steppe]

I believe it should... World Rot is written "Devouring Orb lasts longer and it has a chance to inflict Time Rot on enemies each second inside its area of effect. This chance also applies to hits from its subskills."

[radiant vortex]

^ see that bit of text being or not being in a skill tooltip at seemingly random is what throws me off so often

Like you can assume how shit works most the time and be right cos its perfectly logical but why it's explicitly stated in some places while not in others is frustrating

[tacit zealot]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXwewXDB what about this version then (just changed to exalt wand and rahyeh shield) i go from 73% (minimum stats) / 93% (average stats) to 66% (minimum stats) / 71% (average stats) is that enough crit chance?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (26) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,089, Regen: 143.82/s
▸ Mana: 196.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 48 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 227% / 82% / 114% / 82% / 82% / 78% / 74%
▸ EHP: 5,775 / 5,775 / 5,775 / 8,860 / 6,079 / 5,775 / 5,718

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 750
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,442)
▸ Block Chance: 30%, Mitigation: 34% (875)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (1/20), Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (22)
• Symbols of Hope (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Immolator's Oblation
• Peak of the Mountain
• Rahyeh's Light
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Soulfire

[analog steppe]

yeah lol, but it has to be in this one because the orb is per second on a duration, while the subskills part is on hit so they are kinda different styles of effects

[radiant vortex]

pls put the tilde(~) infront of the url btw when you post it

the bot is so unnecessary

[tacit zealot]

66-71% seems pretty low considering ive also focused a decent amount into crit multi (vk tree and aura)

but i gain more healing eff and fire damage from shield alone

[tardy thistle]

Can anybody tell me how to search LETools for the reflect idol?

[tacit zealot]

items

[radiant vortex]

if you mean this on the builder

[tacit zealot]

if by reflect you mean an affix then im unsure what base its on

[radiant vortex]

you gotta first choose the correct idol base then you can search for the mod

right base

we still don't have forest cuirass as a base huh

or is that primalist exclusive

[wet scarab]

trying to make a dark captain america build. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRWNWWLA Do you think this will do or should i get rid of devouring orb and go normal symbol of hope

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (61) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,607, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 202.51, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 147% / 82% / 112% / 106% / 78% / 80%
▸ EHP: 9,330 / 9,330 / 9,330 / 12,576 / 9,821 / 9,330 / 9,330

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 893
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,988)
▸ Block Chance: 56%, Mitigation: 50% (2,058)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Throwing, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Devouring Orb (24)
• Lunge (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Smite (20)
• Shield Throw (24)

Used unique items:

• Countenance of Majasa

[arctic tartan]

Any breakthroughs today in the sentinel cycle starter think-tank?

[viscid garnet]

Hey guys, just trying to cook up a fun endgame build for 2.0.
Does anyone know how Eternal Eclipse functions with Riftflame Void Cleave? Does it apply both the additional void AND fire damage?

[alpine canopy]

You right, I totally missed that. I'm not sure how it calculates the chance on hit in that case lol

[waxen nymph]

You get both for VC because it has both tags

[alpine canopy]

if it actually updates the chance on hit as it ages, or if it just applies flat 25% per point

[viscid garnet]

Awesome, thought it would but just wasnt sure

[analog steppe]

probably just flat 25% per point

[tired sorrel]

gonna play Sentinel next week for fist time. thinking Paladin. does ally healing (ex Healing Hands) heal myself too? im going to be playing single player, i doubt ill have pets so its unclear where ally bonuses will play a role. should i just go void knight if im not interested in supporting other chars?

[little shadow]

Does anybody have a possible minion FG build for next patch?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, you are your own ally

[analog steppe]

healing hands is like the best qol skill lol, extra damage and self healing

[radiant vortex]

can I somehow quickly copy idols on planner <_<

[scenic gyro]

is that generally true?

[radiant vortex]

or do I have to search save each and every one of these lil things

[alpine canopy]

Yes

[alpine canopy]

Uhhh I have this one. But I highly recommend not playing it lol. ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGj6RRzQ

[tired sorrel]

Time Rot and DoT stuff for Void Knight looks really cool but im leaning Paladin. need to give it more thought

[radiant vortex]

I saw rahys and 2 putrid and I noped out

[coral dawn]

whats a solid leveling route for sentinel these days? Planing to try out forge strike eventually

[little shadow]

if you dont mind me asking why? still learning but ill have a looksie lol

[alpine canopy]

Just because that one that I made is really trying to make the ring of shields fire aura be my main damage, and I'm pretty sure that won't work well at all

but some of the items are okay for other setups, like the body armor - really that might be about it lol

[little shadow]

ok cool, ill see what i can come up with myself and ill post for advice when i get stuck lol

[ripe cargo]

Wow holy shit

crit paladin got nuked from orbit

[warped blade]

Shield throw with those reflect weaver idols is looking really good

[ripe cargo]

like jesus christ ehg

[summer skiff]

Stupid question but did lightning spear/javelin with the turyani spear get buffed?

[warped blade]

?

[fluid sparrow]

Don't fully understand that either

[alpine canopy]

Overall, I think it's a good bit better

[ripe cargo]

a lot of hit based passives got removed

[bleak yew]

Will Multi-Strike be good with the changes?

[ripe cargo]

your essentially just a worse forge guard stat wise if your not triggering spells

[fluid sparrow]

if you had 5% base and the 200% inc node ... that would make it 15% chance
Now you get 8% base, get only 100% inc ... would make it 16%

No? or you are not talkign about that node?

[alpine canopy]

It looks strong now for both single target and clear

[warped blade]

Crit is crit ur going to do more damage when u crit

Are u trying to say there's no reason to build into crit?

[ripe cargo]

The problem is your now running agains void knight

who just has a better version of that

[fluid sparrow]

But what exactly are you talking about

Pally in 1.1: had 1 passive that affected crit
Pally in 1.2: had 1 passive that affected crit

Or am I missing something?

(not talkign about skill trees)

[ripe cargo]

and if your melee

[warped blade]

Every ascension is suppose to be different and u pick them for those reasons

[ripe cargo]

you werent winning the fight against forge guard

yeah paladins just he ele dot class now

/hybrid caster if vk doesn't work for said skill

[fluid sparrow]

But please, clear response, what changed about pally passive tree that it suddenly has bigger impact on crit?

[warped blade]

I don't remember but do dots crit?

[fluid sparrow]

no

[warped blade]

Soo what's wrong with paladin as an ele dot class now?

[little shadow]

you free to voice if i create a channel and kinda have a look at what im working with if i screen share? any advice would be great lol

[shut geyser]

Does blockchance have to be at 100% to feel good for increased tank?
never built into block, should i jsut go for other defenses if i cant reach 100% on my build?

[fluid sparrow]

Unsure but they avoid the questions, think they aren't sure about it either. 😛

[warped blade]

I mean you should have other layers of defense

Don't think u can get 100% block which isn't a bad thing

[shut geyser]

ok cool. does it work for spells too in LE? or only hit based stuff

[ripe cargo]

oh

its mostly just the crit multi

also most crit skills already had good base critso n pali

[fluid sparrow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/hit_vs_damage_over_time

[ripe cargo]

so its actually less crit chance as well

Upside.

crit can now be run with electrify builds

so there's that

[radiant vortex]

you can only get it to around 300%

[fluid sparrow]

Can you pelase elaborate the whole "nuke" thing as there is only one node in whole pally ndoe that affects crit chance and multi? 😛

[ripe cargo]

yes quite literally

tha'ts the the thing

[fluid sparrow]

But you now need less investment in inc crit chance to get capped

[warped blade]

Psure he means as in fully negated not just increases on it as a base

[fluid sparrow]

and it's universal

[ripe cargo]

no you need more

because you already had high base crits as pali

[radiant vortex]

blocks dmg mitigation hard caps at 85%

[fluid sparrow]

Then invest less in that base? 😛

and put it somewhere else?

[ripe cargo]

but you can't get the increased back

[radiant vortex]

Chance can be pushed to 100% fairly easily by sentinels

[warped blade]

Yea that's what I mean it's not 100%

[ripe cargo]

yeah its just vk and especially forge guard pushes it way easier

[fluid sparrow]

I really think "nuke" was a bad wording, it still gonna be very doable

[ripe cargo]

yeah

[fluid sparrow]

200% inc crit chance only on spells changed to 100% overall

[ripe cargo]

you just have to play electirfy crit now

[radiant vortex]

To make block 'feel good' as a defensive against trash you want >50% chance but befoer you're 100% you'll get unlucky esp on bosses

[warped blade]

For sure

[ripe cargo]

yeah and electrify crit node is beter for spells just inherently

[fluid sparrow]

You only want crit multi scaling, not crit chance for that node?

[ripe cargo]

no

you want both

you sitll do a hit

[radiant vortex]

But you should have a Lot of armour / hp / endurance / etc as a sentinel anyway

I keep forgettin you can't swear at all here

[ripe cargo]

it's called nuance

[warped blade]

Yea other layers

[ripe cargo]

you can have that in builds

[fluid sparrow]

Ailments usually get applied bec of a hit, doesn't matter if it was crit or not

[ripe cargo]

right

[fluid sparrow]

So why both

[ripe cargo]

but if you already have a large amount of crit multi

why not also go hit?

[valid orchid]

If I'm playing void knight with the "attack have chance to echo"-mechanic, and I have a buff that gives me something for the next attack only, say added melee damage: As I do a melee attack which echoes, does the echo benefit from that buff? Or the echo is treated as a completely independent attack?

[fluid sparrow]

So you are talking about hybrid Hit + Dot

ok ok

Still feels a very unjustified wording of "nuke" there.

[warped blade]

It can

[ripe cargo]

its more like

[warped blade]

If it procs

[ripe cargo]

they skull bashed vk/paladins non hybrid playstyles

so forge guard could actually do his job

hes a pretty big winner as well this patch

[valid orchid]

So the buff applies also for the echo even though the buff says it applies only for 1 attack?

[warped blade]

If it says its just 1 then it's just you're attack unless specifies it can do it several times where echo can apply it too

[valid orchid]

Ok, so if the initial attack consumes the buff, it isn't applied on the echo

[alpine canopy]

Sorry, I can't hop on a voice thing at the moment, but I am checking periodically for any questions if you have them

[warped blade]

Yea if ur initial attack consumes it, it won't b applied on the echo

[shut geyser]

Oh, so LE doesnt distuingish between hits from attacks and spells

[fluid sparrow]

Jup

[shut geyser]

Thats good to know. thanks

[little shadow]

no worries 🙂 just not sure with my current setup i have for passives and so forth what to use as last skill, planning on basically getting as many forged swords up as possible and use them to beat down stuff and use shield ring to distract/heal, symbals for bonus damage/crit, oh and forge strike for bonus swords and bonus damage for them

not sure what would be a good final skill for the build

[fluid sparrow]

Still no clue, it's more uniform now?
Imagine judgement, skilled as pure melee pally skill ... has 5% base crit, with only taking that crit 10-p node, before: still 5%... after: 5+3 + 100% crit chance ... making it 16%
I still have no clue what you actually mean then by non-hybrid.

Or is my calculation way off?

[ripe cargo]

the problem is

pure melee judgement

is bad

[fluid sparrow]

lol

[ripe cargo]

whati t does do very wel at is if you have both a hit and a spell component

which forge guard cant do

and void knight only works with void damage

so you like

want multi smite with divine bolts and healing hand.

which you should probably play electirfy but that's sorto f the point it seems

they want to make sentinel much more of a "brawler" it seems

[polar spire]

im all for it

ehg not knowing wtf they actually want to do with sentinel: "oh brawler? uhhh yea sure, yea, that makes sense, yea"

[alpine canopy]

If your weapon type allows it, void cleave can apply some really stong damage buffs to forged weapons

[ripe cargo]

I don't think they ever want to make a class a tank because tanks are broing

So making a class with a lot of in combat defenses is a good compromise

[little shadow]

i shall have a look as i had got the node for 2h and shield lol so could actualy work quite well with the build

[polar spire]

i dont think sentinel was ever meant to be a tank

especially when werebears have access to a screenwide 100% uptime taunt

[ripe cargo]

People tried it for a while.

I'm sure healing hand vengaence will sitll be a think

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, primalist has actual taunts, even necro has extra threat gen on golem

but MA has actual taunts, too

[fluid sparrow]

btw, meanwhile on maxroll tierlists (I don't have a clue if they are trustworthy) but Judgement (melee) is classified as one of the higher ones for : HC, Boss, endgame & corruption. Only not speed farming, but that makes sense as slammer. 😛

[polar spire]

never look at tierlists

wtf

[fluid sparrow]

i don't usually

but i wanted to know why they think it is bad

😄

[polar spire]

look at tierlists again and i'll send you back to the depths of GENERAL CHAT

[ripe cargo]

It's a consecrated ground spammer

I don't know hwy they list it as melee

[polar spire]

general chat death

[fluid sparrow]

sorry ok

[polar spire]

unless you remove consecrated ground for quad smites

[ripe cargo]

also soft reminder this is in their "End game." for the judgement build. They're some straight clown shit anymore.

[coral dawn]

that just looks solid overall for sentinel

[ripe cargo]

till you remember this exist

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgLMCsDMQ

[polar spire]

weak

i always ran bulwark of the abyss on judgement

[ripe cargo]

yeah i was just saying the anti dot shield was super redundant on judgement cause the healing shield exist

its very much just a "every other build uses this shield so i'm going to use it too."

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, the DOT mitigation is great and all, but enemy DOT is getting super nerfed in S2 so seems unneeded

[ripe cargo]

standing on a stronger healing field is also dot mitigation

😛

[alpine canopy]

Kinda, but not exactly the same, flat vs %

[coral dawn]

yeah i need to look into shields to use with 2h + shield forge guard for forge strike

[polar spire]

i need to figure out a way to bring back abyssal echoes healer now that VR doesnt return mana

need to fix my judgement build first though

im loving those new blood mage gloves for self proccing divine flare righteous fire

[marble topaz]

How much gold do you typically have around level 70? Is the cost to respec from sentinel to void knight difficult at that point?

[polar spire]

from sentinel to void knight?

hmmm

i think that ones free

[marble topaz]

I heard it costs like 100k

[polar spire]

ba dum tss

[marble topaz]

oh sentinel

I meant paladin

Still waking up 🙂

[polar spire]

i think the mastery change is 500k?

[marble topaz]

For a first character then it's probably better to stick to void knight

[polar spire]

otherwise a full respec of talents at lvl 100, is around 250k if i remember right

[coral dawn]

man jumping into a skill blind is kind of rough when you dont know how it scales lol

but I will probably go forge strike as early as possible

[polar spire]

when it comes to sentinel, you can do that with rive and be fine

[polar spire]

crit, bleed, all ailment, or minion?

[coral dawn]

hopefully it's more player damage than minion damage for forge strike

[polar spire]

combined with the price for respeccing all? so if lvl 100 is around 250k, then that seems pretty decent

1.25 mill

[polar spire]

if you opt out of minions, forge strike can hit like an absolute truck, yes, depends on what you're going for though

if you're going crit it gets 8% base crit and 145% crit multi in its tree

[coral dawn]

only idea so far was to affix the sunforged set onto weapon, helmet and body armor

[candid lintel]

Does anyone have a smite build setup I could look at? I haven’t tried making my own build yet and want to see some ideas

[strong plume]

Okay - question:

22% Penetration or 80% Crit Multi

(100% Crit Chance) - what one you taking?

[polar spire]

i need more context

what skill we runnin

[strong plume]

irrelevant lol

Just seeing the weight of Pen vs % Multi

[next summit]

Is it normal for builds in this game to have very „mild“ clear?

[polar spire]

sentinel has builds that screen clear in an instant

[ripe cargo]

Yeah i could see it on the min maxed build later it's just very funny they were like "Just hit late game, just use a perfect roll majasa shield."

[polar spire]

wdym by mild

or do you mean speed?

i mean LE is faster than poe2 at this point

[junior wren]

22% pen

[radiant vortex]

oh thats cheap

[ripe cargo]

yeah sentinel is way faster than rogue

rogue just skips mobs

[strong plume]

That's what I was thinking

[radiant vortex]

depends how much you have of either already

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, kinda silly and with the enemy DOT nerf totally unneeded even for pushing late game

[radiant vortex]

you'd think so

[ripe cargo]

I think clear wise it goes
Marksman
Mage here
Falconier
Sentile Here
Acolyte
Druid/beast master here
Blade Dancer
Shaman here

[radiant vortex]

lest we forget enemy dots were nerfed in 1.1 as well

the disrespect of lock clear <_<

[south zephyr]

With Havoc and Imprints and 1 guaranteed slam that might not be that crazy

[radiant vortex]

we #1

[south zephyr]

Like 5-10 hours of farming maybe?

[alpine canopy]

At high corruption, they'll be doing about half damage compared to what they do now

[ripe cargo]

dots got a lot of buffs this patch

[south zephyr]

But also bleep whoever you're talking about ofc

[junior wren]

what's "clown" about their shield choice?

[south zephyr]

Thank goodness Flame Guard Sulla just casually deleted me at like 300C

[polar spire]

to be fair, idk what gum's saying half the time

[south zephyr]

Investment required to get the dang thing

[ripe cargo]

we already ocvered it. It was for ending game pushing. Tehre's a shield that gives both healing and damage. Effectively doing the shields purpose, but better at that stage in the game

it belongs in the min maxed section

not the "I'm doing end game " seciton

[still plinth]

I mean that's Ghazzy (poe) level of end game

[polar spire]

what corruption qualifies as min maxed

[umbral pagoda]

Devoring orb VK good starter build ?

[polar spire]

and what corruption qualifies as end game

[still plinth]

"just wear a 7000 divines wand, it's easy"

[junior wren]

seems to me like you're just making random statements without any understanding of their choices

[south zephyr]

Probably?

[ripe cargo]

Seems to me you haven't moved on form when maxroll creators used to be good.

[polar spire]

maxrolls never been good

thats the joke

[radiant vortex]

but it's max rollin in it

thats quality content

[south zephyr]

Le sigh

[junior wren]

Seems to me like you don't know shit, since I make my own builds 😄

[south zephyr]

Ba dum tsss

[junior wren]

anyway, in the guide they say the shield is for "A percentage of Block Effectiveness applies to Damage Over Time."
From LETools it seems to be a 100% droprate from a Woven echo.

[ripe cargo]

i will except that it may be ghazzies concept of end game

which is probably accurate

[junior wren]

So, a shield I can guaranteed drop every time I run the echo, and a special affix that no other item has. Seems to be quite a reasonable choice.

[south zephyr]

1/17 LP 2 isn't bad either

[strong plume]

Okay assume I have 40% Pen and the +22% brings me to 62% Pen and 200% Multi and the 80% brings me to 280%.

[ripe cargo]

you strugglign to get a rayeahs light?

[south zephyr]

Hmmm probably still the Pen?

[junior wren]

why would I get it?

[raven lark]

So, I was thinking of doing Judgement for the crazier bosses and Javelin for monos. Is this reasonable or not really how this game works?

[south zephyr]

Can't think of the top of my head, Crit Multi miiiight be better in that case

If two skills share scaling you can do that

[trim basin]

is bane of winter any good on void knights?

was thinking of going devouring orb, but i feel like going spells on void knight is kinda sad with all the good attacks

[south zephyr]

Having one skill for clear and one for bossing is fine as long as they scale the same way

[junior wren]

it could work quite well. Both hit versions and Holy Trail/Consecrated Ground versions have some synergies

[trim basin]

figured id scale void damage in that case

[south zephyr]

Psyched for Phalanx Sigeons Build

[raven lark]

yeah that's what I noticed. Some of it isn't super different.

[south zephyr]

Ah sorry lol I was responding to Wigglies

No idea about voidwinter tbh

[ripe cargo]

I'm so sad only forge guard can spear and shield it

[south zephyr]

Probably though

[south zephyr]

Look I'm just psyched it's happening at all

[ripe cargo]

also i know the're waiting on the master till theyy rework minion stuff

maybe next patch with acolyte

but

[raven lark]

Yeah. Tbh I was a little sad on the Maxroll teir stuff to see how it was. Which I get is subjective of course but I think the reason was minions need a rework for it to be better

[ripe cargo]

forge guard is still the best at single type hit damage of the group

[fair hollow]

master?

[ripe cargo]

Well not spell

its pretty shit at spell

[junior wren]

Every build is bad, until someone makes a video of 1000c apparently.

🤡

[ripe cargo]

mastery passive @fair hollow

mb

[fair hollow]

ah

[south zephyr]

They uhhh, may also just be wrong

With proper gearing I think there's some crazy possibilities

Just not for the minion based FG

Or less for them anyways

[junior wren]

the proper gearing part is quite difficult on forged weapons, as it seems lots of people do it incorrectly

[trim basin]

ive had people say pre-nerf bleedbug was bad to me lmfao

[south zephyr]

Oh I was thinking for a Vengeance based FG with Sig/Phalanx and mostly ignoring FW

Maybe using for the damage transfer and parry chance

[south zephyr]

Well guess there's my goal this season

[junior wren]

do it 😄

[south zephyr]

Fine but I'm doing it on legacy lol, I'm lazy

[junior wren]

still waiting for a job opening where I can just play LE all day 🤣

[bitter lintel]

How do ppl solve mana when using zero cooldown erasing strike? I’m just practicing around before 1.2 and two hits wiped me out. Is mana regen / mana affix the way or is there some leech available I don’t know of

[south zephyr]

They said if we're getting free respec on legacy?

[junior wren]

they make void essences and eat them

[south zephyr]

I mean I assume so

[junior wren]

iirc the generation part is in the skill, and the eating part is in VK tree

[bitter lintel]

Ahhh yea. I remember seeing that. Thanks

[junior wren]

yeah same here. But if not, respeccing is cheap

[south zephyr]

Sigh need to go farm up a T7 block chance shield

Got a fairly solid 3 LP sig sitting around

[uneven harbor]

am i scuffed early end game? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWJ5n83A

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 70

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (48) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,353, Regen: 93.81/s
▸ Mana: 128.35, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 134% / 131% / 110% / 93% / 116% / 100% / 81%
▸ EHP: 4,971 / 4,971 / 4,971 / 7,860 / 5,233 / 4,971 / 4,971

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 68%, Threshold: 649
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (3,927)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 23% (240)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, DoT, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (22)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Devouring Orb (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)

Used unique items:

• Eternal Eclipse
• Flames of Midnight
• Siphon of Anguish
• Suloron's Step
• Anchor of Oblivion

[south zephyr]

Get that HP up

Stat

2k would be a good target for empowered

[quiet hearth]

Dont need HP just dont get hit

EZ

[south zephyr]

% increased HP on Armor, Helmet will help a lot

[uneven harbor]

werd lol yeah have so much res can make easy adjustment then

[south zephyr]

Yeah res is less important relative to most other Arpgs not being perfectly capped is fine until late endgame

[trim basin]

what is eternal elipse for in this build?

just the big %void for spells or?

[gusty abyss]

Warpath is the damage here

the rest is all support spells

[uneven harbor]

bump to void, but i normally run apathy maw, friend told me to give this one a shot

[trim basin]

fair, but warpath doesnt proc the +240s right?

[south zephyr]

IIRC no

[gusty abyss]

it should for a single hit, its not worth it

[urban phoenix]

Anyone know what tags the "Sweeping Attack" from Manifest Armour+Shield throw have?

[trim basin]

i guess you could pick this up

but yeah 100% not worth

[gusty abyss]

But the build he linked is nearly 1 on 1 the maxroll build

[trim basin]

it's really good on builds that use single big hits

[gusty abyss]

Its really good for 50% converted void cleave

Get to consume both at the same time

[trim basin]

iinteresting

[uneven harbor]

this is my current and mostly trying to find as game plan that make it feel a bit stronger, even though farming 100s rn and pretty easy https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1VzyM8Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 89

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (57) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,812, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 111.95, Regen: 9.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 97% / 79% / 99% / 78% / 67% / 90%
▸ EHP: 3,985 / 3,985 / 3,985 / 5,284 / 3,985 / 3,690 / 3,985

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 488
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,146)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Sigils Of Hope (1/3,Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Anomaly (22)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Shield Rush (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Vortex Pennant

[junior wren]

nope, but highly likely it's physical, melee and area

[icy matrix]

it doesnt seem to be a subskill looking on letools

[strong plume]

Closing in on 60K EHP.

[south zephyr]

Vs DoT, lmao

Good thing that's getting cut down to size

[strong plume]

VS DOT is wrong

[junior wren]

don't trust the vs DoT yeah 😄

[south zephyr]

Ahhh that's good to know

[strong plume]

The build planner doesnt account for Affixes

[urban phoenix]

Hope theres an area tag XD trying to cook something with it.

[junior wren]

more importantly, vs. DoT doesn't account for any HP regens, Ward per Sec etc. 😄

[south zephyr]

Increased area for melee skills shenanigans?

[strong plume]

Yeah, but even as a baseline VS DOT doesnt even account for Code of Erased Sentinels % increase let alone the New Weaver Affixes.

my VS DOT EHP is probably 100K

[south zephyr]

If I can leech so is mine

If

[junior wren]

yeah, well, it's two days after patch notes? 😄

give them some slack

[strong plume]

NEVAR

[urban phoenix]

Ideally something like this.

[gusty abyss]

Euh, it is right there if you hover over it?

[south zephyr]

Don't forget to put T7 on your 2H so you can hit the whole map

[strong plume]

Code doesnt get factored in:

Not sure why

[south zephyr]

Armor DR from Sky's screenshot

Or does it have flat less DoT taken

Can't remember

[gusty abyss]

I just equiped code on top of what I had:

[alpine canopy]

It does account for armor mitigation applied to DOT

[strong plume]

I see it now

[junior wren]

you're looking at two different things

[shadow cove]

Sentinel people how we feel about clothos on spin to win

[strong plume]

Mine says 50% but I am unsure how it's getting that calculation the only conversions I know would make it 25% from Armor.

[south zephyr]

Armor curve maybe

It applies the armor value not %

[strong plume]

Interesting, alright. Good to know.

[south zephyr]

That's guess work

[gusty abyss]

AFAIK, armor applies to dot, looks at the damage reduction you get from armor and take a percentage of that. IE with 50% DR and 50% applies to DOT you would get 25% DR

[little shadow]

got a quick question for you toast : bit confused on the wording of these 2 nodes and wondering if the Extra 25% bonus damage from goliath strike node would apply to the forged weapons as well from the wording on heavy strike node the greyed out wording

[alpine canopy]

Heavy strike works for FWs, goliath strike doesn't

[fluid sparrow]

Someone already asked or pointed out before, but the weaver idol affix, the damage dealt to attackers on 1x1, goes up until 150, imagine a mid roll, that is with sigeon ... 10 flat throwing per 1x1?

Is that not... a lot?

[little shadow]

ok cool thats what i though but wasnt 100% sure so thought id ask

[shadow cove]

It is.

Someone posted a theory craft with sigeom and monument of protection

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, a lot of the 1x1 affixes feel overtuned

I hope that is because they are actually rare

[alpine canopy]

shh

[shadow cove]

Depends on how easy it'll be to get a ton of those. When he had 30 of tjem he had like 3451 damage to attackers

[fluid sparrow]

maybe a misstype input, and should have been 5-15? 😛

[shadow cove]

I shall wield the two "shields" i shall name myself turtell

[fluid sparrow]

we'll see on thursday I guess 😄

[south zephyr]

They better not read this chat

[eager carbon]

Why

[south zephyr]

Last second nerf lol

Wouldn't be mid-season, yet

[eager carbon]

Whats getting nerfed

[south zephyr]

Damage reflected idols, but I'm joking

Hopefully

[eager carbon]

Why would they nerf them

[south zephyr]

5-15 flat damage to shield throw on an 1x1 idol is insane

[shadow cove]

With the amount of power they're giving this season they're not nerfing it

[strong plume]

Another question - does anyone know the exact # Armor hits the 85% cap?

[south zephyr]

Tink has it probably

Tunk

[alpine canopy]

If you want to see a typo that'll get fixed quick...

[strong plume]

trying to see if I need the Armor Empowered Blessing or not

[eager carbon]

So you have the notion that someone will actually farm 20 idols that give a certain affix just so they can prove it has to be nerfed?

[south zephyr]

I.... Yes?

[eager carbon]

Really

Like

[analog steppe]

considering they wont be farming 20 idols but buying them from MG yes

[fluid sparrow]

Someone will get out of their way to farm 24 of em yes. 😛

[south zephyr]

I literally intend to do so personally

[eager carbon]

Actually?

[south zephyr]

Yes

[covert phoenix]

I mean, seriously

shield throw has terrible scaling overall, even with 500 added flat it's not going to be top tier

[eager carbon]

Theres 20 slots, don't be ridiculous

[south zephyr]

That's like maybe 3-4 hours

[quiet hearth]

I like how VR has an ignite node that converts time rot to ignite on the tree and there's like..one other node that gives time rot chance and it's not even to the main hit xD

[south zephyr]

It's a common affix

[eager carbon]

So you estimate 3-4 hours on a random mechanic that lets you roll 1-10 random affixes?

[ripe cargo]

so which class do you think is going to be most popular

[scenic gyro]

sentinel by far

[ripe cargo]

mastery*

[south zephyr]

It's not an enchant

[warm jolt]

is world splitter hard/ass to farm?

[south zephyr]

It's a base, common 1x1 affix

[alpine canopy]

Necro as usual 😂

[ripe cargo]

out of the sentinel ones

[south zephyr]

VK

[fluid sparrow]

I think Pally

[alpine canopy]

Oh, yeah prolly VK

[warm jolt]

VK or pally

then MM after those two

perhaps

[eager carbon]

Its a common affix out of 10

Okay my dude

[analog steppe]

MM will be more popular than the sentinels probably

[warm jolt]

like pally is giga for HC, but because of warpath i think VK might end up being more popular

[covert phoenix]

not really

HS feels busted on paper, but the damage effectiveness is not that high

and MM is pretty bad overall

[storm osprey]

Alright i might have cooked with this phalanx FG build

[shadow cove]

So clothos on warpath. Yay or nay. Worth investing?

[eager carbon]

You are worrying they will nerf some shit skill with ~300 flat given you have rolled 20 idols

But not the 74m damage warlock

I mean

Are you, okay?

[south zephyr]

Wouldn't know literally never played one, and didn't read any of the other class patch notes, and also stated that I was joking like 3 separate times

[alpine canopy]

It gets pretty high pretty quick tbf

[covert phoenix]

does it

[eager carbon]

So you are not okay

I see

[south zephyr]

Well I keep responding, so yeah pretty clearly lol

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, its average damage effectiveness is more in line with some of sentinel's hard hitting melees

[eager carbon]

Lol that lol this

[covert phoenix]

once you included the nodes inside the tree

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, for both skills of course

[covert phoenix]

like, a fully specced HS is 1300% damage effectiveness or so

[warm jolt]

which one is that 👀

[eager carbon]

Yeah like im gonna share it

[covert phoenix]

it's big, but it's still a single target skill, and 1300% per attack is not that big either

[warm jolt]

unironically asking for a friend xd

[analog steppe]

witchfire

with an absolutely busted warlock passive node whose numbers just read like they werent tested

[south zephyr]

Lmao good lord

[alpine canopy]

It's not exactly single target since it goes on to chain when its target dies

[covert phoenix]

it's not aoe either

[analog steppe]

technically still single target with that functionality kept

[warm jolt]

damn

[alpine canopy]

1300% is pretty huge, imagine if rive had anywhere close to that damage effect and had infinite range, that's what HS is

[covert phoenix]

rive is close to that lol

[warm jolt]

the thing about HS is also that its like a half-DoT in a sense

[alpine canopy]

Not even a little

[warm jolt]

you can have many of them going on at the same time

[eager carbon]

Rive is close to HS

[south zephyr]

Quite possibly, the doubled 2H stats nodes can be pretty crazy

[strong plume]

hmmmm but is it worth the DPS loss to become an immortal god.

[eager carbon]

Delulu gods

[covert phoenix]

doubled 2H, the 80% echo chance with 75% more damage

[eager carbon]

Everywhere

[covert phoenix]

1.833 base attack speed

[ripe cargo]

yeah i felt the same

i feel like vk/pali /mm launch

[eager carbon]

Like, seriously, this is by far the most entertaining channel of all

[ripe cargo]

than people are gonna go

"Huh forge guard is actually kind of good now isn't it."

with all the throwing buffs

[eager carbon]

FG

[ripe cargo]

mastery has giga numbers

not sure what to say

[eager carbon]

Hahahhahahahaha

[ripe cargo]

show me a bad node on the class?

damage wise

[eager carbon]

No its ok

Just play FG on launch

Who am I to tell you otherwise

I really hope "clown" is ironically in your name

[warm jolt]

this is from a marksman planner

avg rolls

they can get fairly tanky too if you build it right, but the "problem" is that it comes lategame

so if you play HC, uh

[ripe cargo]

you know i'm a vk player right

i just respect the class got love

cause im not hyperfixated

[warm jolt]

im tempted to go VK bonker

instead or rogue

[ripe cargo]

dot bonk or hit bonk

that's the real question

[warm jolt]

hit

[ripe cargo]

go heartseeker

hit bnonk has existed for forever

[warm jolt]

ik but its gigabuffed + i havent played it a ton

[ripe cargo]

unless you want to play vooid rift bonk

which fun build

[warm jolt]

also if i go rogue i might not go HS, but instead some old build xd

[ripe cargo]

but yeah that one stupid mace everybody memed about

[ripe cargo]

actually good with the void rift on erasing stirke hit node

let me find it

[ripe cargo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsCZQTiA

this one

new flavor of void bonk

[eager carbon]

How why what

[clever hazel]

FYI, LEtools calculates Witchfire damage incorrectly

[covert phoenix]

and I didn't count the much higher base attack speed for rive

[eager carbon]

Estimate is 8m

[ripe cargo]

dreads already made a video on shadow bacon being almost good enough

[eager carbon]

That screenshot is for showoff

[ripe cargo]

shadow bacon now gets a guarteened rift on hit

[clever hazel]

it's treating the "more witchfire damage per ignite chance" and "more witchfire damage per damned chance" as separate more multipliers, when they're additive

[ripe cargo]

which is what it wants

the problem with shadow bacon is now fixed

[eager carbon]

Dude

[ripe cargo]

on top of the more damage

[eager carbon]

Its the new relic

[ripe cargo]

instead of flat damage

[eager carbon]

No one uses those

Wtf are you on

[clever hazel]

oh my bad, didn't notice that item

still though, LEtools is calculating it wrong regardless

[eager carbon]

Ignite and damned are on top of the 75m

[analog steppe]

uhhh what? that number in LE Tools is clearly doing 2 separate huge more multipliers in its calculation (which is incorrect) they definitely aren't on top of the 75m listed

[clever hazel]

yes, that was my point

[eager carbon]

XD

[ripe cargo]

ioh shadow bacon forces you to go througgh the dot nodes 😦

[shadow cove]

No no. You will not sway me back to warlock. I must spin

[warm jolt]

how do you even get letools to calc witchfire, i thought it doesnt have that for most skills/ailments

[clever hazel]

it's in the offense tab

that's on a completely naked character with as few damage passives as possible

[ripe cargo]

oh nvm its fine

[south zephyr]

Seems overstated

Hopefully

[ripe cargo]

increased crit on shadow bacon forced the crits to go well.

[warm jolt]

ah

[clever hazel]

I'm gonna make a bug report for Grimhilde's Domain since it's just blatantly wrong right now

[covert phoenix]

letool does the base damage of every ailment

[covert phoenix]

but yeah, witchfire is going to bait many people haha

[swift sorrel]

Actual damage is 31684 btw

[clever hazel]

I have no comments on the Downfall of the Righteous thing TBH, that relic is probably overtuned but I haven't actually checked

[eager carbon]

You are the worst witchfire hater in here, tbh

[covert phoenix]

Like this one. "Oh my, 27M witchfire", and once corrected, back to 650K damage

[eager carbon]

Still the worst

[clever hazel]

I'm not hating lol, I just noticed a bug and reported it to Dammitt

[covert phoenix]

any comment on rive damage effectiveness, btw?

[shadow cove]

Number go up

[eager carbon]

Yes

You are missing like half the point

[covert phoenix]

am i now

is a skill doing less damage than VK rive on a much squishier mastery going to break the game, even if it's an "infinite range" skill? I don't think so

[eager carbon]

No, you estimate rive damage to be much less

Idc about HS

[covert phoenix]

??????????

[polar spire]

if you have all the time to play in the world, yes

[next summit]

Which builds are that? I mostly mean melee builds like reave for example, i assume you mean hammerthrow or sth

[polar spire]

i have never once played hammer throw in all my 3000+ hours on sentinel, i hate hammer throw in every game

trash ass skill

[next summit]

Fr

[polar spire]

but naaaa we out here with sierpins and divine fury

time to lag everyones pc out

[next summit]

Are there vids of these builds by any chance? On yt there are only slow ass builds

[polar spire]

time to play poe2 huntress lightning spear

[polar spire]

we just here theorycrafting, you want videos you go to the actual youtubers getting paid for it

[eager carbon]

Note: the 3000 hours are sitting on letools, not ingame

[shadow cove]

Play serpent spear deadeye and just do 12 million damage to a boss in a hit

[polar spire]

naaa ive only got like 1500 hours on that

but that was because my work over 3 years let me do whatever i wanted

so most of that was spent screwing around on letools

[eager carbon]

So it is 3000 hours on letools

[polar spire]

?

why you gotta be cringe mang

just enjoy the game

[ripe cargo]

is the erasing strike no cooldown node ever worth it now without vr?

or is that part of the tree just dead for now

[eager carbon]

Idk how you calculate exact hours, but im convinced you have 10% of that 3k ingame

[polar spire]

cringelol

[eager carbon]

Lol that lol this

[shadow cove]

Yall two need a room to make out in

[ripe cargo]

bro

[sonic wasp]

i'm thinking about starting sentinel and go into void knight. I'm wondering which is the better "no mana" skill? vengeance or rive?

[shadow cove]

Rive go brrr. Feel good (imo)

[polar spire]

i just blocked em, far easier

[eager carbon]

[polar spire]

imagine getting all heated about people messing around with build creation in a class channel lulw

[sonic wasp]

that's my feeling, once it has some attack speed. and I also like the 15% kill threshold that you can easily reach with it

[eager carbon]

Such a loss

You were entertaining

[alpine canopy]

So you forgo your pull and flat crit to get the highest number you can, and fair it's pretty close when you do that. HS gets all its QoL, defensive buffs, flat crit/multi, etc. and if you run ailments its hit rate is insane. idk still seems like HS is good to me

[eager carbon]

99% she clicks the blocked message to see what I said

[shadow cove]

Still think I wanna try out clothos. I wanna be a defensive type beyblade

[ripe cargo]

So

i can't figure out how to make erasing strike work without void cleave anymore lol

[polar spire]

in what way?

from my understanding it uses void well at the end of vk talents

[alpine canopy]

You'd still want it for void well cycling

[ripe cargo]

i understand

you repeatidly set yourself to 30% mana

[sonic wasp]

what's void well cycling?

[alpine canopy]

This is void well cycling

[ripe cargo]

so you only really need vengeance for bosses

[sonic wasp]

i have no idea what that means 😄

[alpine canopy]

You spec ES to get void essences on crit, and just make sure you have enough mana to get back to 3 essences to proc void well (which sets you to 30% of max mana) before you run dry

[polar spire]

does vk want additional mana with void well, or just default?

[warm jolt]

i mean mana is nice for that and other things too

splitter etc

[alpine canopy]

Just for void well, generally, but it does synergize with world splitter kinda

[covert phoenix]

it's good, but it's not broken

[warm jolt]

also warpath if you play that skill

for ramp

[covert phoenix]

I mean, compare with avalanche self cast doing ~18000% damage effectiveness for 50 mana. It's not even meta

[alpine canopy]

Not by falconer standards, for sure, but compared to what other classes get it's a weirdly very well-rounded skill

[polar spire]

@ judd

jkjk

[sonic wasp]

oh you just add all the multipliers on the tree together for that number?

[covert phoenix]

No?

[polar spire]

i actually enjoy the new avalanche, its pretty neat

[ripe cargo]

since erasing strike using all your mana you sitll need a mana geneerator for bosses

[hybrid urchin]

I wana play full throw paladin build for s2. Shield throw with the 6s CD. Ricochet hammers. And the Heartseeker helmet. Will it work?

[covert phoenix]

I mean, of course it's well rounded, EHG has this big issue of "everything newer or reworked is stronger", but it's not even that busted

[scenic gyro]

what is the heartseeker helmet doing for you

[covert phoenix]

time rot, for instance, is going to be much more problematic for the balance of the game

[polar spire]

shooting heartseeker at people

honestly it makes sense

i didnt even realize we could use it too

[south zephyr]

Free extra throwing attack basically

[hybrid urchin]

Auto casts heartseeker, the helmet gives all the buffs heartseeker needs in it self. Recurve and dmg scaling that fits well with other throwing skills

[alpine canopy]

Time rot will be very interesting, hoping I can either get away with only using ES for it or the TR spread works well enough that shield rush doesn't feel too terrible

[ripe cargo]

Not really. Time rot has a cap its just very unqiue in that it gets to "Cheat" build up. Which is thematic for a time class.

They're also probabyl designing another void class from the sounds of things

[polar spire]

time to make an auto smite heartseeker helm build

[scenic gyro]

idk, unspecialized skills in endgame dont sound convincing

[ripe cargo]

who will use time rot differently than vk

[polar spire]

forge guard running all the ailments on an increased stun chance forge strike

[south zephyr]

As a smite trigger it may be alright tbh

[shadow cove]

I can't be the only one that thought of yondu when they showed off HS

[scenic gyro]

he'll already cap the smite triggers with hammer/shield throw

[south zephyr]

I was thinking for a WP smite based build

[hybrid urchin]

Well Yondu is a Ravager and that is the name of the helmet so

[south zephyr]

Saves on a few passives and the relic slot

[polar spire]

heartseeker + sig throw shield + smite on throw idols + meteor belt, then just not press anything and run around

all you do is rebuke

idk

[hybrid urchin]

Sounds great

[polar spire]

all you do is numlock autocast warpath

look ma no hands

if you take shield throw's fire bursts, you can scale spell, fire, throw

shield throw fire bursts, smites, meteors

[sonic wasp]

erasing strike with no cd and that huge mana cost. haha. how can you ever sustain that?

[south zephyr]

Void essence Mana refund

[covert phoenix]

27 mana per rive can sustain as well

[south zephyr]

Or that

Time and Faith saves the day

[little shadow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYMeaLwo this is about as far as ive got so far, and im sure it could do with improvements lol thoughts on what i could improve?

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (18) / Forge Guard (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,788, Regen: 40.7/s
▸ Mana: 307.45, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 30/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 25 Dex / 11 Int / 77 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 68% / 89% / 141% / 72% / 90% / 89%
▸ EHP: 12,010 / 11,224 / 12,010 / 23,335 / 12,274 / 12,010 / 12,010

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 782
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (241)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,868)
▸ Block Chance: 71%, Mitigation: 61% (3,235)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (4/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (27)
• Forge Strike (33)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Healing Hands (27)
• Void Cleave (27)

Used unique items:

• Sword Catcher
• Boneclamor Barbute
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Logi's Hunger

[clever hazel]

You have 181% reduced bonus damage taken from critical strikes, and 91% critical strike avoidance 🤔

[south zephyr]

The monsters were uhhh, stacking Crit multi

[polar spire]

was looking at the gloves, and if i remember correctly they mentioned you cant seal t5's anymore? or maybe that was on something else

but sealing t5 is hard af anyways

[south zephyr]

Unless it's a champ affix

[polar spire]

but looking at all the seals, im guessing this is just so you can use the import into item filter thingy so it shows you all gear with those affixes?

[sonic wasp]

i think I won't plan a build now and just look at how it feels 😄

[little shadow]

i didnt know that thanks for telling me lol

[covert phoenix]

I'm so going to rush this

[clever hazel]

unless I misunderstood how Warlord's Riches on the Weaver's Tree works, you should be able to get some crazy sealed affixes through that, yep ^

I wouldn't plan around it though, Warlord's Riches is pretty RNG lol

[little shadow]

so i take it ignore the critical strike avoidance as im over stacked on the reduced damage of crits?

[polar spire]

yea, if you have specific affixes you want on gear, but you're fine with another affix, you can set it as the sealed affix, and then hit loot filter on the left side in planner, and it'll look for gear with any of the affixes including the sealed one

[south zephyr]

If you max champ spawn it's probably efficient

[clever hazel]

correct, you only need one stat or the other, not both

100% reduced means crits do the same damage to you as non-crits

[covert phoenix]

Sure, but it's still the only way to get this kind of item. That's the "reach another level through RNG" effect you can't find anywhere else

[little shadow]

oh awsome ill change those bits Learning alot first time ive used this planner usually i go in blind and hope for the best rofl

[covert phoenix]

otherwise, you are stuck to the same kind of items, 4 affixes and done, or maybe a sealed T2, than before

it's all contingent to how often champions are spawning, of course

[clever hazel]

also your planner has.. extremely low health, I would suggest getting some health suffixes

[alpine canopy]

You can replace a lot of the armor affixes you have with health ones

[clever hazel]

you can check the defense tab if you want to optimize and make your character as tanky as possible

[alpine canopy]

and also you really want to get 60% endurance

[south zephyr]

Advise 2.5-3k HP maybe as low as 2k depending on other defensive layers

[alpine canopy]

dropping your minion dmg blessing for this will fix your endurance issue

[little shadow]

kk will do

[alpine canopy]

The helm choice is a little odd, too, but also it seems like you're focusing on buffing fire damage a lot, but only void cleave is a real fire skill

You might want to convert vengeance to fire or get more phys scaling instead (which scales the fire on your void cleave as well thanks to that one node)

[little shadow]

how to convert vengence to fire?

[alpine canopy]

Left side of its tree

[little shadow]

just saw the node lol

[alpine canopy]

even if you stick with phys, getting a point (or two) in here will help both you and your minions' damage

[little shadow]

yep my minions will hopefully do majority fire damage and also im using healing hands as a traverse/melee skill as well

[quiet hearth]

with the dorb changes, disintegrating hammers might be fun to play

[south zephyr]

Shame Javelin doesn't have fire conversion

[alpine canopy]

It looks closer to 50/50 phys/fire currently, leaning towards phys

[little shadow]

what would you change the helm to?

[alpine canopy]

Probably just a leonine greathelm, that'll help free up a lot of suffixes for more health

[quiet hearth]

that freaking hat is so good

[alpine canopy]

since that + your boots completely makes you immune to crits

[quiet hearth]

it has zero business being that good

[covert phoenix]

Honestly, the sentinel class items are all extremely good

700 armor body is busted as well

[copper thistle]

thinkin bout doing automatic dorb while also warpathing, but cant decide between going hit based with the spell damage node or going full timerot 🤔

[sonic wasp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcEYHYE4g
the phys damage implicit is basically useless for a void skill right, because it's not converted?

[little shadow]

awsome sauce 🙂

[analog steppe]

oribiting dorb doesnt really get high enough more multis to do timerot well

[sonic wasp]

the ailment damage scales with the more multipliers of the skill that applies it?

[copper thistle]

thats fair but then i dont get to use set crafting which is a bummer

[south zephyr]

Unless it specifically says more hit damage yes

[serene prism]

I'm going to not go warpath at all and just do the awesome movement skills that Sentinel has and will get in 1.2

[sonic wasp]

oh wow, cool

[quiet hearth]

pally ignite wp is looking pretty smooth ngl

[south zephyr]

Holy aura buff is nice

[serene prism]

Volatile reversal rework and the devouring orb node that casts it while you're moving... Just a ton of fun to me.

[copper thistle]

it does seem awesome im just helplessly addicted to spin to win

[sonic wasp]

yeah, i wonder if there is a limit, or if it just means "you move one step and it casts it"

[analog steppe]

it uses the cooldown

[little shadow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEkweV9A there we go with the added adjustments

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (18) / Forge Guard (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,788, Regen: 40.7/s
▸ Mana: 307.45, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 30/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 25 Dex / 11 Int / 77 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 68% / 89% / 141% / 72% / 90% / 89%
▸ EHP: 12,010 / 11,224 / 12,010 / 23,335 / 12,274 / 12,010 / 12,010

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 782
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (241)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,868)
▸ Block Chance: 71%, Mitigation: 61% (3,235)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (4/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (27)
• Forge Strike (33)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Healing Hands (27)
• Void Cleave (27)

Used unique items:

• Sword Catcher
• Boneclamor Barbute
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Logi's Hunger

[analog steppe]

so it spends mana and respects the cooldown of the skill, you dont get them for free while moving

[quiet hearth]

has anyone cooked anything with the new phalanx spear?

[sonic wasp]

sure, I was only wondering how much you have to move to trigger it

[south zephyr]

Correct

[south zephyr]

Working on it, but I think you want to combine with Sigeons/Shield Throw and scale pure Phys

Or do Face of the Mountain and scale vengeance as hard as you can

[quiet hearth]

I was thinking bleed actually

[south zephyr]

Hmmm if Jav has sufficient more multi probably workable