#🔱┃sentinel

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junior wren
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it stacks

full oasis
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is there any good like non meta build for void Knight?

turbid dome
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wizard vk is fun

waxen nymph
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DOrb +Selfcast Smite is fun

full oasis
junior wren
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I think Kripp had one

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(the ward will be way lower after 1.1, but don't worry it still works)

full oasis
junior wren
full oasis
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so he casts devouring and this casts smite?

junior wren
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self cast means you are casting the skill

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so no, you cast smite 🙂

full oasis
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ahhh

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damit bad english

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^^

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the build is 7 months old is it still viable though?

waxen nymph
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Don't have a build guide from anyone

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (54) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,603, Regen: 41.47/s
▸ Mana: 158.52, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 11 Att / 95 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 82% / 61% / 66% / 72% / 107% / 161%
▸ EHP: 7,686 / 7,686 / 6,742 / 9,237 / 7,462 / 7,686 / 7,686

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 867
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (2,960)

Damage Types:

Void / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Smite (20)
Devouring Orb (20)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Anomaly (21)
Sigils Of Hope (22)

waxen nymph
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This is my current Char

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Not a big fan of some stuff I saw on Kripp build

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But the Singularity did caught my eye

turbid dome
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but crit D:

waxen nymph
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But meme 😄

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Rich person problem
I have too much mana sustain to make good use of Devotion

turbid dome
junior wren
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yeah Devotion and Time and Faith are not good friends

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you could probably remove Time and Faith

waxen nymph
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I did

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But now my Smite is kinda killing me ^^

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So I have removed Sigils and use HH

junior wren
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how about passive points in void leech?

waxen nymph
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I have quite a bit of leech already but the Smite Consume with all my Cast Speed is too much for my leech

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HH is nice
Gives me a real Traversal too

junior wren
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and scales with cast speed too

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yea HH is nice

waxen nymph
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Man ... I need to dodge that Lagon Moon Blast ...

cobalt blade
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Boom red screen gaming gregory

waxen nymph
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I need to focus so I can go to sleep

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Finally

cobalt blade
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Lagon "sleeps", vladdd sleeps

turbid dome
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dang

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greg's pumpkin hat is gone

cobalt blade
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But the HD model retains kappa

cobalt blade
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Little teaser for Devouring Orb for Sentinel. Subject to changes and rebalances, said Mike

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@waxen nymph

turbid dome
cobalt blade
turbid dome
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||Forward in time? Sentinel gets a tp skill||

cobalt blade
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||I know.. its LUL. But Mike did say we can think about the description. Assuming VR may get us some groleshades node?||

turbid dome
tacit zealot
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flame burst thats in holy aura it mentions the damage scales off player (or minion) that triggers it would DOT scale it or would it be counted as a spell so only spell/fire damage types would increase it?

tacit zealot
tacit zealot
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"action ROLE player game" role play its a tp lol

cobalt blade
turbid dome
tacit zealot
tacit zealot
turbid dome
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I know sub-skills inherit stuff from the main skill, idk what if anything it would get from holy aura

tacit zealot
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i do wish the lunge tree had a little more utility

turbid dome
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Half of its utility needs you to kill stuff with a max range lunge

tacit zealot
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who is really using it as a primary damage source (not includin the kill threshold)

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the ally nodes

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we dont get the benefit

turbid dome
tacit zealot
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how good is block and life when block vs other defensive layers like endurance or ward (assuming its the single defence vs each other)

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can the life when block get high enough to be a good sustain?

turbid dome
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Life gained on block?

tacit zealot
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yeah

turbid dome
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Only really useful against swarms of weanies

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But you also have leech

cobalt blade
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DR and block miti better no?

turbid dome
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I mostly think of it as like -20 dmg taken on block

tacit zealot
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does spell vamp work for DOT such as aura from judgement

turbid dome
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Is it a spell

tacit zealot
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what items are good which can do both DOT and spell leech?

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if any

turbid dome
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Bleeding heart

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Tho the aura part of judgement is a spell so spell leech would work

tacit zealot
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would i get a stack of bleed per tick of the aura?

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im gonna be using the cleanse on holy aura so a few stacks shouldnt be an issue but if they stack fast it may hurt me more lol

turbid dome
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Bleeding heart is on casting a spell

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I’m not actually sure if using judgement would trigger it

tacit zealot
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oh so the spell damage after the melee hit wont trigger?

turbid dome
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No trigger the one bleed stack from heart

tacit zealot
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i know initial hit is melee but i didnt know if there was like 2 trigger stages one for the hit of melee then the dot ticks

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ahh nice alr glad i saved a few lol

turbid dome
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Assuming your not scaling bleeds it really shouldn’t hurt you that much

tacit zealot
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any suggestion on a potential better 1h than cinderflame?

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nah im gonna be primarily aura with healing hands as a seperate manual cast if need

turbid dome
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Cinder song?

tacit zealot
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aye

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that one lol

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only used to mad alchs with my div bolts pally

turbid dome
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Uhh

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Given how little flat that wand gives a solid rare or exalted wand might out damage it

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Given your not casting fireball

tacit zealot
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yeah its primarily for the fire damage and +1 since atm ive not found a good ele dot on a 1h only 2h

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isnt there a way to use a 2h with a shield?

turbid dome
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No

tacit zealot
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is there a way to convert all/most damage types into one specific type like fire for the DR on rahyehs light?

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i know theres things like "% phys damage taken as fire"

turbid dome
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sentinel gets stuff to convert dmg to physical

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its not that useful

tacit zealot
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nah rahyehs light is up to 25% damage reduction on block so wondered if there was a way to convert a bunch of the other damage types straight into fire

turbid dome
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ooohhh

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I didn't read rahyehs light

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theres the Orian's Eye amulet

tacit zealot
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but then no bleeding heart

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and void isnt majorly common

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cmon devs we need more options hahaha

turbid dome
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void is common af

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every harby + the pinnacle boss does hella void

tacit zealot
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out of all the damage types i see its on par with poison unless theres a reveal gate

turbid dome
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it also means you can have 0 void resistance and use those affix slots on something else

tacit zealot
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yeah im too much of a casual after the ward nerf to get to boss

turbid dome
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nah your gonna get there

tacit zealot
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i just need to venture out and try other builds instead of sticking to caster pally. i felt hella strong before ward nerf because of healing hand giving me a casual 80-90k ward while screen clearing with auto targeted divine bolts spawned from healing hands

alpine canopy
alpine canopy
alpine canopy
waxen nymph
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And iirc the dmg scale with Healing Effectiveness

waxen nymph
tacit zealot
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So best going with healing eff and ele DOT instead of spell damage/fire damage with ele dot

waxen nymph
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Heal Effect for Flat Spell
Attunement/Max Mana for the More Dmg inside the tree (also Attunement gives Heal Effect)
And for %Inc Dmg > Ele Dot has the higher roll range. Then %Spell, %Fire and %DoT have the same roll range. %Ele Dmg has the smallest

junior wren
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you want flat spell too, it has scaling

waxen nymph
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Heal Effect gives Flat Spell
Also you have a wand and the shield passive. You can't do much more

tacit zealot
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yeah i know flat spell is important its the more damage, increased damage, added damage etc etc those i struggle to remember

junior wren
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yeah that's good enough. I know people often go for Firestarter Torch which has no spelldmg

waxen nymph
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Agree with you, Firestarter is not a good idea for this one

turbid dome
waxen nymph
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Its because Judgment doesnt have a Void conversion

zealous tartan
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is there a good void knight build atm?

waxen nymph
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Warpath
Erasing Strike

zealous tartan
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alright thats what i played in the prepatch thing

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is there a good way now to really understand what stats are best or is it still trial and error or trust someone else

turbid dome
waxen nymph
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AS too

zealous tartan
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how bad are melee builds for the new pinnacle boss

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i was 1 monolith away from doing it before poe league start dropped

worn garden
waxen nymph
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Which one ?

worn garden
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Punch

waxen nymph
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Is it still good ?

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I thought it got hit quite a bit with the change to Pious Offering

worn garden
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waxen nymph
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Just saw it

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Really nice

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And not the One Punch version

worn garden
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Yeah still bonk, but not the vr version

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I think you still could do that? Idk I don't play judgement

waxen nymph
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Probably but I hated how clunky monos were with it

full oasis
waxen nymph
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Just got to 200C

full oasis
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@waxen nymph and ty btw

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😉

waxen nymph
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Not sure how good it will end up

full oasis
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keep mus updated

waxen nymph
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Got it

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I am lvling smth rn heavybreathing

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I am a bit of an Alt-aholic

full oasis
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^^

waxen nymph
full oasis
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where would you spend the last 14 points?

waxen nymph
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Passives?

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Inc Dmg+ MS
Void Aegis chance probably

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Btw I have made a few changes

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Got rid of Crit, incorporate Devotion and HH

austere frost
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Devouring orb smite is quite good until 700 corruption then it falls off ,it's clearing it's not amazing that's why ,and sentinel tanking problem comes into play. But it's a fun build and the new uniques are quite good for it.speciqlly those rings

quiet hearth
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I just saw the halloween post, and of course it has a build challenge with the most cancerous thing I've seen in awhile

river raptor
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Looking at vk builds I see a lot of void cleaves with abyssal echoes proc and erasing strike with no cool down - how do these builds sustain mana? I go oom after 1-2 hits if I use those.. 👀

turbid dome
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ES get a void essence on crit -> when you hit 0 mana go to 30% of your max mana -> repeat

river raptor
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oooh, thanks ❤️

turbid dome
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use world splitter for it

river raptor
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atm only lvl 75 or so, don't even have abyssal maw (or what it's name was)

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was going with 1 extra charge on erasing strike and no abyssal proc on cleave before. But with vengance spec for less damage taken and some more damage done

river raptor
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What's the earliest I can obtain a world splitter? Currently working on the last 3 zones to unlock empowered monoliths

waxen nymph
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As soon as you get to empowered

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You go back to Rahyeh 's Timeline (I think that's where it drops)

alpine canopy
turbid dome
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That or engage in capitalism

full oasis
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is this build still viable?

tardy mirage
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very

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@full oasis

visual orchid
waxen nymph
waxen nymph
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Damn, I tried smth with an old Char and it was real bad
I am a bit sad 😢

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Rive+HH popping Abyssal Echoes with Impair the Weak

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Abyssal Echoes felt so bad to play

waxen nymph
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Wow !! There is no %Void Dmg on Wands !!!

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Where the hell am I supposed to get my Inc Dmg now

zealous tartan
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is there any difference in cycle vs legacy right now

waxen nymph
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No

zealous tartan
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can i turn a void knight into a paladin?

waxen nymph
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Also no

zealous tartan
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can you make all legacy crafting mats merge?

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or are crafting mats character specific

alpine canopy
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Crafting mats are shared with your stash

waxen nymph
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@full oasis Quick updapte on my Vk Smite/DOrb
Just reach 275C
Dmg is still really nice
Tankiness starts to show its a Sentinel

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Even with almost 4k Hp I see my hp yoyoing a bit more than at 200C

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My main issue is to find a way to dump my mana before a boss fight to maximise my dmg

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I am setup to really be at Mana Equilibrium

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But that should be solve in about 6 lvl when I can unlock Sigils (again)

junior wren
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you're not really tanky though. Armor DR 55%/38%, endurance threshold 1k, so most damage is going through at 2/3 of regular power

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My planner was set to max. When I set it to Actual values, it shows Armor DR 54%/38% 🤔

waxen nymph
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What is the 38% ? Armor to Dot ?

junior wren
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Armor vs. nonphysical

waxen nymph
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Oh ok

junior wren
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Armor is very deceptive, with its nice big number in the character screen 😄

waxen nymph
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I feel like this is pretty decent

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I have felt much tankier on some other classes with less numbers

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If you have suggestions I am open to hear them

junior wren
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I would add more sustain. It seems HH is your main sustain, but you don't have too much bonus healing.
You could also boost that armor by adding some % armor affixes.
I would swap out the belt for an armor belt with cold res%

turbid dome
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real ^

waxen nymph
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Agree with Boots and Belt
Sustain is really not a issue. Quite a bit of leech, and the healing from HH

junior wren
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oh you have leech? it shows 0% in the character sheet 🤔

waxen nymph
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Because it's Void Leech in Anomaly

junior wren
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oh yeah, that one won't show up

waxen nymph
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I had Spell Leech Blessing too but I changed it for Max Hp

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Didn't see much change in term of refilling my hp

turbid dome
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given you grabbed the 200% increased leech and 2(4)% leech from anomaly thats a lot already

junior wren
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your gloves don't have experimental on them, next upgrade could feature sealed experimental affix. Armor to DoT for tankiness. You could also do Ward per missing HP, because that should allow your leech to continue after reaching "full" hp

turbid dome
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true

waxen nymph
turbid dome
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hmmm

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would overleech be overpowered in the current last epoch

junior wren
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probably with some big hitter skill?

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erasing, smelter's

turbid dome
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hey if anything could make smelter's better I'm all for it

junior wren
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it's perfect for smelters. It should have 2s maximum charge time, 1 second cooldown, and health leech is applied over 3 seconds

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so you only need a solution for the time between smelter explosions, ie. while you move around

turbid dome
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ye

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honestly a node on smelter's thats

Constant Forging:

Leech gained from smelter's wrath is not removed when your health is full

junior wren
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imo it needs a hp regen node. if you look at smelter's gameplay and you see the dude just standing still and dying to attacks only to NUKE THEM 🤣

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also overleech would be bad for bossing right?

turbid dome
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if your standing there and charging smelters and get smack to 20% hp, the however much time of leech thats left from your previous hit kicks in then, instead of you needing to wait for the next hit to leech again

junior wren
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yeah I understood your suggestion

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I'm just saying, overleech doesn't leech anything, because when you hit a boss and he doesn't die in one hit, your overkill damage is zero, so you leech zero

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it's great for monoliths

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but bad for bossing

turbid dome
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?

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thats overkill damage leeched as life

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overkill damage leeched as life =/= overleech

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or am I being stupid

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I'm calling it overleech because my friends always call this effect overleech in POE

junior wren
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oh

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yeah I thought overleech refers to overkill leech 😄

turbid dome
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yeah thats a fair thing to think

junior wren
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so your overleech already exists

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but it's limited to those 3s

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because all leeching lasts 3s

turbid dome
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doesn't it remove if your life hits full

junior wren
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normally yes

turbid dome
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assuming no hp loss gloves

junior wren
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exactly, if you have a source of hp loss, it doesn't get removed

turbid dome
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fair enough

junior wren
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afaik someone used ravaging aura to get overleech 😄

turbid dome
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🤔

junior wren
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ravaging aura drains HP, it should be the same as the hp loss gloves

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(minus gaining ward)

turbid dome
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ye

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tho assuming smelter's wrath doesn't get giga buffed, it getting overleech inherent to it would't be that busted

junior wren
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yes, i was thinking in terms of overkill damage leech and how smelters deals big numbers

turbid dome
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add that too

junior wren
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but you could probably have both

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smelters is classified as melee attack

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I was thinking in terms of this https://youtu.be/EDxtkBIa08M?t=39
It shows between 200-300k hits, and seeing how every hit eats 10% hp on that harbinger, that means about 50% of your damage is overkill damage on that last hit.
So with Null Portent for example, there's 16% overkill leech, so I'm thinking 250000 / 2 * 0.16 = 20000 and over time it's 6666 per second 😄 and I'm ignoring leech rate bonuses.

turbid dome
junior wren
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how much overkill damage would that be on small monolith monsters 😄

turbid dome
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yes

junior wren
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I understand why leech only lasts 3s now 😄

turbid dome
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leech is extremely powerful/needs stuff to be balanced around it

junior wren
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ha, question

turbid dome
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and inspite of that leech is still hella weak compared to lifesteal

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possible answer

junior wren
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if you have culling, and target gets culled, does that mean your full damage is now overkill damage? 😄

full oasis
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is the bug for shield rush fixed?

turbid dome
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which bug?

full oasis
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he explains that its only really usable in offline mode i wanted to ask if they changed it

turbid dome
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I believe thats still in the game

full oasis
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he starts at 2:30

junior wren
full oasis
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talking about it

turbid dome
junior wren
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yeah, but if a boss is down to 10% hp remaining, then you overkill him by your full attack damage

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which means culling is really good for overkill leech

turbid dome
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yea

turbid dome
junior wren
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ah yeah, bad example

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I even said earlier how overkill leech would be bad for bossing 😄

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and now i use boss as an example Facepalm

turbid dome
junior wren
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so smelters hits for 250k, some tiny bug in monolith with only 5000 hp dies, i get 245k overkill damage, 39000 leech healing 😄

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if smelters had leech duration bonus, it would be amazing 😄

turbid dome
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gregory give it -300% leech rate

junior wren
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I'll give overleech a whirl when I get to playing forge guard

tardy mirage
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lol

junior wren
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okay why is primalist and acolyte allowed to have Minion Damage Leeched as Health but FG isn't MadMike

junior wren
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oh wait, we can have it, but we must sacrifice

waxen nymph
junior wren
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wait, so it's not healing for the player?

waxen nymph
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Forged Weapons copy your weapons stats (and your Gloves stats if you have the ring)
If you have Leech on one of this 2 they will get leech (for themselves)

junior wren
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yeah i understand the sharing of stats

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i just read that the stat I was interested in doesn't heal the player, which is a bit weird, because of the wording:
Damage Leeched as Health - heals the player
Melee Damage Leeched as Health - heals the player
Minion Damage Leeched as Health - heals the minion

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so it's not (Minion Damage Leeched) but rather (Damage Leeched as Health) for Minion

tardy mirage
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what

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ribbon?

junior wren
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yeah

tardy mirage
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ye its confusing but im pretty sure its minion leech for minions?

junior wren
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yeah it is confusing

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but it also means I don't need to worry about it anymore 😄

tardy mirage
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lowkey they should make it minion leech for players like PoE did with necromancer ascendancy passive xD

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like the minions leech from that thing gets funneled to you xD

junior wren
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yeah I was looking for that to add it to a forge strike build and I was unhappy that primalists and acolytes get the stat on armor or idols

tardy mirage
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if yuou play full minion you really dont get any sustain

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lel

junior wren
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but now that I know it doesn't heal the player, it's shite affix for me

tardy mirage
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ye

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i mean we do kinda have minion leeching to you in the form of bone golem but its pretty meh

junior wren
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and acolyte only MadMike

tardy mirage
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true kek

junior wren
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well then... either I go in with my minions and leech, or drop titan chest and build regen 🤔 or healing hands yet again

tardy mirage
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build regen

tardy mirage
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just drop titan

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its bad for this specific scenario

tardy mirage
junior wren
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stealth has nice dodge rating bonus

turbid dome
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gregory dex stacking forguard with rive

junior wren
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javelin as monolith clear, rive for bosskilling

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that could be a build too. but minions need attunement

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i'll check it out later 😄

tardy mirage
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electrify rive

turbid dome
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sadly rive wants a sword for dex

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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merophage owo

turbid dome
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weapon swap for bosses kappa

junior wren
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i think sword is not a problem, it's just some -dmg for javelin

turbid dome
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rip like 80 flat dmg

junior wren
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yeah but you want it for the aoe, you dont need top dps

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OR

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you could swap

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spear for mono

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sword for boss

turbid dome
tardy mirage
# turbid dome 🤔

ye doesnt work ... maybe if you use rive as a vehicle for dps healing hands

tardy mirage
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xD

tardy mirage
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yeeee

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xD

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100% aurelius + 120% from cooldown javelin

junior wren
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it's still only 96% chance to electrify at most 😄

tardy mirage
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+100% from healing hands

junior wren
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oh holy trail

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okay, then it's 200% on rive hit and 300% on HH hit

tardy mirage
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take every cooldown effect

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can use it as both movement skill and extra electrify chance

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and then get some cdr to ballance it out

junior wren
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but there's barely any support in the passive trees. paladin has few lightning nodes and that's it

turbid dome
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and despite that

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future strike still has less support

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both need some more support

junior wren
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yup

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hm, minion constraints are pretty annoying. trying to give them 100% crit would need max rolled implicit on solarum bracers and T6 crit affix on top of having at least T5 melee crit spear with implicit crit chance

tardy mirage
junior wren
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that's included

tardy mirage
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forget how high that can roll

junior wren
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5 base + 8 rings + 7 implicit spear + 9 from T5 melee crit affix on spear + 3 on logi's hunger for a total of 32 base crit, then 40% solarum implicit + 75% T6 crit affix

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at max roll everything it gives 32 * 3,3 = 105 crit chance to forged weapons

tardy mirage
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owo

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ye its pain

tardy mirage
junior wren
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actually, crit % might be better than flat crit

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shared crit? 🤔

tardy mirage
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where is our base crit chance in forge weapons/manifest armour like exists in litterally every other skill in the game

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lol

tardy mirage
junior wren
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well forge strike has base crit, but it doesn't go to forged weapons

tardy mirage
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they need support sadge

junior wren
tardy mirage
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gonna need julra glove AND phantom grip for 400%

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xD

junior wren
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I didn't even start looking at legendary options 😄

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but I have another crit option, we can do 2h hammer

junior wren
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if I go with Lucerne, I can drop Logi's

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that's awesome

waxen nymph
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But it's slow af

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When you can get an Odachi

junior wren
#

it's -14% speed right?

turbid dome
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That’s base

waxen nymph
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Weapons attack rate is a More Multiplier

turbid dome
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Yeah

waxen nymph
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So it's 14 less as

turbid dome
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Which is a lot

junior wren
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yeah, and the plan is to stack attack speed, so that is a lot

turbid dome
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gregory side thought: is non hd Greg never coming back

junior wren
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who? heavybreathing

turbid dome
#

Gregory

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Does psojed not know of Greg

marble quest
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You mean this one?

turbid dome
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Yeah

junior wren
#

I do not know of Greg. I only know it's a grole from the game

junior wren
#

nice, I didn't know 😄 I think we need more Greg posts

turbid dome
#

greg mtx when

junior wren
#

Greg pet

turbid dome
#

Being able to make discord emotes small is neat

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Lil greg

alpine canopy
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On mobile it just looks like a bunch of pound signs and a regular emote lol

turbid dome
#

My mobile is superior I guess

junior wren
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (85) / Paladin (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,243, Regen: 924.54/s
▸ Mana: 362.33, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 57%, Regen: 490/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 76 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 80% / 84% / 92% / 89% / 58% / 66%
▸ EHP: 10,544 / 10,544 / 10,544 / 18,901 / 10,544 / 9,012 / 9,673

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 294
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,330)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Forge Strike (24)
Void Cleave (20)
Sigils Of Hope (20)
Multistrike (26)

Used unique items:
junior wren
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ward calc said it should have stable 3,3k ward

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left one skill slot free, could be manifest armor, healing hands, ring of shields, javelin (buff minions with battle standard), idk what else

warped night
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3.3k ward seems pretty low. what about dw with cleaver solution and naal's tooth?

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falcon fists would be great here too

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and a death rattle, fang, or logi's hunger amulet would also be good

junior wren
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if you remove 2h sword/axe you can't use Void Cleave, which is a big dps boost for the minions
I tried to keep as little legendary gear as possible to start with.

  • logi's is okay, I already considered it for minion crit. death rattle is meh, fang is also okay
  • falcon fists are good, but before 4LP you'll be losing crit, attack speed or ward from hp regen, plus solarum bracers are also providing crit to minions
warped night
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ah right void cleave

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I don't know if you're getting enough ward to warrant it without more retention. 3.3k hp is a relatively easily achievable number

junior wren
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i mean yeah, i can switch to health, but then you won't have the regen

warped night
#

it's not like sentinel struggles to get forms of health recovery though

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especially since you're using multistrike w/ time and faith

junior wren
warped night
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yeah but now you're using a 2h and you're unable to use titan heart and you're not even getting more ehp out of it

junior wren
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I am getting more ehp out of it

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and 2h was always the plan ? 🤔

warped night
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sorry that was poorly worded, meant you're using a 2h but you can't use titan heart

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~11k ehp isn't higher than what you'd be able to achieve by going for health and using titan heart. all I'm saying is that you should probably find more ward retention or decay threshold somewhere

junior wren
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so what you don't see on the ehp in the planner is the amount of ward (and health) you regen back over time as you're taking damage

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it boosts your ehp vs DoT WAY above 11k

warped night
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nah I get that, I've played ward regen builds before. I still think you need more retention for the big hits

turbid dome
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null potent gaming

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or whatever the 20% DR body armor is

waxen nymph
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Wall of Nothing
Convert Endu Threshold into Ward Threshold

junior wren
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,399, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 282.81, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 76 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 64% / 115% / 92% / 97% / 58% / 70%
▸ EHP: 9,897 / 8,917 / 9,897 / 14,420 / 9,897 / 8,459 / 9,426

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 725
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,439)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Forge Strike (24)
Void Cleave (20)
Sigils Of Hope (20)
Multistrike (26)

Used unique items:
full oasis
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is there a build based on Rive for VK?

waxen nymph
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For your regen setup did you consider the Sunforged Helmet ?

waxen nymph
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Tldr Stacks Vitality

junior wren
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yes, it has better stats than exalted

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but no upgrade path 😦

full oasis
junior wren
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How active is the current cycle mechant's guild? 🤔

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legacy one has terrible prices on endgame loot

full oasis
warped night
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just curious - why solarum over leonine?

junior wren
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oh, availability

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finding a leonine with t7 health regen might be an issue

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then again, so will be champ regalia with t7 attunement 😄

warped night
full oasis
full oasis
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mhhh looks pretty slow

warped night
full oasis
junior wren
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wall of nothing is body armor, you're thinking of grim constitution?

warped night
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oh yeah, you're right, never mind then lol

junior wren
full oasis
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yes

warped night
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post your char

full oasis
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im playing rive VK right now but the clear is dog sh... and you get one shottet pretty easy

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and i have endgame gear if you wondered

warped night
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if you'd like us to help it would be helpful if you posted a link to your character from LETools

junior wren
full oasis
warped night
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ah well then if you don't like rive as a whole I don't think we can do much to improve that on a rive build haha

full oasis
warped night
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still on the vk I assume? have you tried erasing strike?

full oasis
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mhh yeah i tried Wanders build but it feels a bit clunky

warped night
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you could try DoT with ravaging aura and void cleave aberroth's command?

junior wren
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maybe void warpath

warped night
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or that

junior wren
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also the reason you feel squishy is that your armor is very low

full oasis
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Void Cleave with aura as main dmg?

warped night
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  • hammer throw ravaging disintegrating aura
full oasis
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ok anything else? and any good guides to the other?

junior wren
warped night
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that one's fun but without good gear it feels kinda bad

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definitely benefits from t7 channel cost helm

junior wren
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wander isn't actually using t7 channel helm

warped night
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yeah I saw, when I tried the build I found t7 channel to be very helpful

junior wren
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ah, yeah that makes sense

full oasis
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yeah without it should feel bad

warped night
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it's a very involved build for sure, but satisfying

full oasis
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yeah but i guess its also not really tanky

warped night
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yeah not tankier than rive or erasing strike are

junior wren
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and that's about it from the list of easy to switch into builds. If you wanted to try other builds, you'd probably have to redo the whole character

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void smite, void shield throw, some time rot DoT thing

full oasis
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void shield throw? thats new

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sounds like Captain America Build for D3 ;D

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would like to see that

junior wren
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probably not a build for it yet 😄

full oasis
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damit

warped night
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shield throw has awful single target dps unless you're using ring of shields

junior wren
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yeah, be ready for long boss battles

warped night
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and idk if I'd ever use ring of shields outside of a fg

warped night
#

oh it's passed the threshold huh

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I literally never use that skill lol

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although I do want to try a throwing fg with it at some point 🤔

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anyways, void knight - you're not going to find anything that's more powerful than ES, but if you're looking for something different then DoT or direct cast void smite are cool options

junior wren
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depending on what you throw, it ranges from okay to very good

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btw. I checked and couldn't find any void shield throw 😄

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but i found VK shield bash from Aaron omegalul

warped night
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (75) / Paladin (3)

General:

▸ Health: 3,391, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 152.12, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 61 Dex / 14 Int / 14 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 71% / 98% / 133% / 85% / 53% / 53%
▸ EHP: 28,027 / 26,949 / 28,027 / 49,713 / 28,027 / 22,973 / 22,973

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 121%, Threshold: 748
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (244)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,147)
▸ Block Chance: 91%, Mitigation: 60% (3,151)

Damage Types:

Physical, Void / Throwing, Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Swiftness

Used skills:

Hammer Throw (26)
Volatile Reversal (22)
Ring Of Shields (22)
Shield Throw (22)
Shield Rush (22)

junior wren
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no Sigeon's Reprisal huh?

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(+1 flat throwing dmg per 10 damage reflected to attackers)

warped night
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nah, the shield itself is kinda cheeks and shield throw isn't intended on being the primary damage dealer here

junior wren
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Hammers everywhere :F

warped night
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yuh. not sure if I'll want to do nova or not until I play it

full oasis
crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (87) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (1)

General:

▸ Health: 3,726, Regen: 46.8/s
▸ Mana: 213.51, Regen: 10.14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 70 Vit
▸ Resistances: 109% / 89% / 89% / 73% / 78% / 88% / 88%
▸ EHP: 17,114 / 17,114 / 17,114 / 27,731 / 17,114 / 17,114 / 17,114

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 794
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (6,002)
▸ Block Chance: 98%, Mitigation: 40% (1,256)

Damage Types:

Void, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Hammer Throw (24)
Void Cleave (20)
Anomaly (22)
Smite (20)
Volatile Reversal (20)

full oasis
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i found this

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but i dont have the relic

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with the hammer throw or esle to say the currency (and Sanctum Keys ) to try a few

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could i remove 4 points somewhere?

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can anyone here boost me through sanctum T4?

warped night
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you could probably get away with this

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also I think I would take abyssal echoes over either smite or anomaly there. specifically for the embrace the darkness and crumbling nodes

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and have it auto cast from void cleave

full oasis
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what do you mean by embrace of darkness

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ah abyssal

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got it

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but isnt anomaly a big defence boost?

warped night
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it's a nice boost for sure but it isn't mandatory. you can also get rid of smite, but still have it be cast on throw for some extra damage. at the end of the day you're a dot build so smite won't be a primary damage dealer anyways

full oasis
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it seemed like it

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thats why i was wondering

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could you maybe help me get through a T4 Sanctum i only have 1 key anyways

warped night
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I play legacy

full oasis
#

kk

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could you send me a tree of how you would spec abyssal?

warped night
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I'm actually not sure if void supremacy affects ravaging aura, but if it does some points should be shifted out of some the spread and echoes and into that

turbid dome
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Not yoinking the armor shred hurts

warped night
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it's a dot build lol

turbid dome
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Am blind

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Gonna go find my glasses

autumn knot
#

So I'm building my Echo Warpath VK now. It's lv 81 and I'm wondering where people get resistances from especially if I'm using Null Portent? The maxroll guide has the build full of legendaries that all give offensive stats or just health. I don't see a single resistance stat anywhere (aside from +all res when channeling). Do idols and blessings really cover it all?

full oasis
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look on the red stats on the relic

autumn knot
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yeah getting a T7 all res while channeling on a code of an erased seems uhh.. kind of a chase item

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I've leveled through like 6 code of an erased so far with at least 16 weaver's will each and they all came out as vendor trash :B

tardy mirage
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ye not gonna happen kek

autumn knot
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my problem rn is I have a 2LP Apathy's Maw, farmed like 6 Null Portents that egged horribly or slammed things other than + levels to warpath, and a 1LP Shattered Chains that slammed flat life

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and running carcinization + siphon of anguish rings + darkstride... im not getting res from anything lol

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esp to make use of null portent

tardy mirage
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ye oof

autumn knot
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oh I'm running the well-rolled Nihilis right now too actually, so +15% all res

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but unfortunately it slammed a useless affix ;_;

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any tips on farming code of an erased? just legendary relic prophecies or what

tardy mirage
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prophesis + timeline

autumn knot
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ah true

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might as well double dip with timeline

tardy mirage
#

also runes

autumn knot
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yeah

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I know the other WW items have the armour prophecy where it gets you armour with 16 WW on it

tardy mirage
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also nemesis

autumn knot
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is there a similar prophecy for relics?

tardy mirage
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kek

tardy mirage
autumn knot
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ill ask in CoF channel

tardy mirage
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i think its in the same place as accesories

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like rings and stuff

autumn knot
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hmm

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yeah there are WW rings too

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feel like if they had WW prophecy for accessories, it'd target farm too easily

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maybe I can double dip and get a 2LP Valdyr's for my hammerdin while I'm at it lol

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but maybe for now I just use an exalted relic slot to round out the rest of my resistances

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that's probably the move

autumn knot
#

How good is Shattered Chains?

tardy mirage
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good

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flat dmg
built in cc cleanse
dmg multiplier

autumn knot
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ok I'll keep it instead of subbing in a spidersilk lol

tardy mirage
#

spidersilk goog tho owo

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wait we dont have "melee necrotic dmg" attribute owo

turbid dome
#

erm phantom grip

tardy mirage
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thats a unique

turbid dome
#

shush

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but for an actual answer the only melee necrotic skills in the game get flat necrotic damage from your stats

autumn knot
#

y'all think a 2LP Titan Heart > a 1LP Null Portent?

turbid dome
turbid dome
autumn knot
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let's assume both have +4 warpath and maybe the other affix on Titan Heart can be a T5 % health

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or T5 flat health, whichever grants more value

turbid dome
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🤔

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I might be over valuing +5% dr

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but null imo

autumn knot
#

null portent seems super cool on paper but it only gives an extra 5% dr

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and it favors leeching over titan heart's damage + titan heart gives another 20% health

turbid dome
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extra dr + doesn't turn off passive regen

autumn knot
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feel like echo VK isn't really getting much from passive regen anyway

turbid dome
#

its way cheaper to get a good 2 or 3 lp titans heart if your using a 2 hander

turbid dome
tardy mirage
#

oh ye

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forgot xD

autumn knot
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I'm CoF SAF, but yeah I agree it's probably easier to get a good Titan Heart

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I feel like 20% extra health from Titan Heart > 5% extra DR from Null Portent in terms of EHP

turbid dome
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depends on your current hp

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and that its 20% dr vs 15% for how dr stacks together

autumn knot
#

they're probably close enough in value actually

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true

turbid dome
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like in a void with no other defense than 100 hp, 20% dr and 20% increased life is basically the same quick math

autumn knot
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right. I guess in general basing these off of relatively averagely expected stats

turbid dome
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wait no didn't use titans dr

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titans wins out there

autumn knot
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and not crazy examples like I have 10,000 health lol

turbid dome
#

true

autumn knot
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likely I'll be sitting around 4k

turbid dome
#

how much before any increased max health source?

autumn knot
#

like without any body armour?

turbid dome
#

no

autumn knot
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or any/all max health lol

turbid dome
#

like without any effect that gives %increased max health

autumn knot
#

idk, I'm kinda just theorycrafting for the future

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rather than basing my calculations on my current gear

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since everything's still a WIP

turbid dome
#

fair

autumn knot
#

trying to get a general sense of pros/cons between the two items

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and when one becomes more favorable

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or if the two differences between % health vs % dr is more or less negligible

#

I think my sentiment is 1LP Null > 2LP TH

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as my gear progresses and as my level increases, my health value will be quite high already

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and null just gives better stats at that point

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plus the leech + leech rate (which is a relatively rare and useful stat)

tardy mirage
#

dmg reduction is extremely favorable

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because you will have a ton of health

turbid dome
#

ye

autumn knot
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TH seems amazing as a leveling item but I think given similar enough legendary affixes, Null wins

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only problem now is I need to farm for more null portents without losing my lv 100 character xD

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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probably?

autumn knot
#

7 abberoths down already, but I can feel it in my bones... the death is coming

tardy mirage
#

lol

pearl warren
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so is shield throw just bad

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cause while im not the best at building characters, my shield throws are doing like 1k damage at lvl 75

alpine canopy
#

It's a dated skill, but it still has some viable builds I think

pearl warren
#

trying it on void knight

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got an idol that converts it to void so i thought id try it for a bit

alpine canopy
#

I think it's hard to get going well unless it's fire, kinda reliant on the 75% more fire damage being one of the only multis on the tree

pearl warren
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aw thats kinda dumb

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but yeah the only other multis are the like 50% im getting from block chance and then whatever i was getting in terms of crit multi for block effectiveness

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guess ill just go back to devouring orb autobomber for now

alpine canopy
#

I agree... hopefully it's one that get updated to modern standards, could be a fun skill

worn garden
#

still fun with manny

junior wren
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shield throw is on the weaker side yeah, the -25% less damage isn't helping

junior wren
#

Oh boi here we go...

waxen nymph
#

? Where is that from ?

south ledge
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Looks like from the character selection window

river raptor
#

For a vk with void cleave and erasing strike build - what helm should I aim for? An exalted one or is there any good uniques?

river raptor
#

Terror crowns seem amazing, so guessing one of those exalted?

waxen nymph
#

Terror Crown or Leonine Greathelm

junior wren
#

lvl 16 minion build pretty okay for nemesises

novel river
#

yo guys, does "increase healing effectivenness" or "+x% health regen" increase the health gained per block or per hit ?

junior wren
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+x% health regen doesn't work on either of those two
increased healing effectiveness depends on what source are we talking about.
It doesn't work on the shield affix
It doesn't work on Sentinel passive Aegis of Renewal
But it does work on Paladin passive Holy Symbol

alpine canopy
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Basically healing effect just works on things that specifically say healing

novel river
#

thx guys !

tardy mirage
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skills basically

full oasis
#

Is the warpath build from Maxroll any good asking for VK

chilly peak
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I've seen quite a few maxroll guides that may not be optimal, some have questionable choices and there are left outs, but not seen a maxroll build yet, that does not cover the basics

turbid dome
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maxroll's warpath should be a solid starting point for a build

zealous tartan
#

is there any way to make erasing strike work well without the world splitter

turbid dome
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apathy's maw

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and just embrace it having a cooldown

zealous tartan
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it may as well have a cooldown now lol i have 0 mana 90% of the time

turbid dome
#

use rive + time and faith

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and basically rive whenever erasing strike is on cooldown

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it can feel bad doing a builder + spender style of play but it works

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splash in void cleave (movement + next es is a crit) and you have basically what I use to get a world splitter on cycle start

turbid dome
waxen nymph
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Get Void Well no Cd

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You will need to slam Melee Crit on it though

turbid dome
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And eat up a lot of affixes otherwise

alpine canopy
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Lol splutter

river raptor
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I'm using void we'll and the void cleave makes next es crit. I got some downtime on single targets but it works

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Only killed the harbinger three times though and no drop yet

turbid dome
turbid dome
river raptor
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The one after the shadow bird right?

turbid dome
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yea

river raptor
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Yes

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Farming the time lines I never did atm though as I'm super squishy

turbid dome
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link your build?

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also please tell me your crit defense is capped

river raptor
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Atm I don't think it is, but looking to get it there. Playing on the steam deck so not sure how to post a build

turbid dome
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idk if the steam deck has a web browser, but go to last epoch tools -> build planner -> import

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the ez way to cap crit on sentinel is a leonine helmet with a reduced bonus dmg from crits affix on it

river raptor
#

Will see if I can get it to work. Super annoying to find files though

turbid dome
#

oh no need for files unless your playing offline

river raptor
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Yeah, haven't gotten a single good rolled leonine ones

turbid dome
#

if your online it just needs account name + character name

river raptor
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Playing offline 😂 less lag and can play on the bus

turbid dome
#

fair enough

river raptor
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But looking to replace my helm asap

turbid dome
#

is it a funny level 40 helm from leveling?

river raptor
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Used to have one of those

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The one with more void damage. Just got another exalted one though

turbid dome
#

Decayed skull?

river raptor
#

Yeah

turbid dome
#

very solid helmet for early game

river raptor
#

Had really bad luck with helm fortunes also

turbid dome
#

mood

river raptor
#

Got like...2 fortunes for exalted helms 😭

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After using 6-8k currency

turbid dome
#

you could always try soul gamba

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just to get something

river raptor
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What's that?

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The neck?

turbid dome
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the dude at the end of the soulfire bastion dungeon

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its a second gamble merchant but he offers stuff thats above level 40

river raptor
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Oooh, right. Forgot him

turbid dome
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or if you have a billion gold lightless abor

river raptor
#

Yeah, gonna finish all time lines for the blessings then look at maxing stuff

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Stupid autocorrect, not saying timelines as one word

turbid dome
#

have fun with the post blessing grind gear shuffle

river raptor
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😭😭😭 Thanks

turbid dome
#

my recommendation is get the blessing of humanity (or whichever one is +20% all resistances) first

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and use the gosh dang blessing respec merchant person

waxen nymph
turbid dome
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It’s the minimum roll of every blessing you’ve gotten that cycle right?

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ignoring one’s gotten in ssf or hardcore

waxen nymph
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Yes

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But I thought youhad to unlock Grand Blessing to be able to use Grand Blessing

turbid dome
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I can see that

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Buuuttt the current thing lets me blitz through un empowered monos way faster

tardy mirage
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hmmm what to play

turbid dome
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Spear build

waxen nymph
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Phys Hit Javelin FG

tardy mirage
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lol

turbid dome
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dex stacking pure phys rive void knight

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Leviathan carver ❤️

tardy mirage
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lol

turbid dome
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lol

full oasis
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,968, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 216.51, Regen: 10.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 53 Vit
▸ Resistances: 180% / 112% / 112% / 92% / 78% / 71% / 82%
▸ EHP: 9,529 / 9,411 / 9,411 / 12,345 / 7,700 / 7,312 / 7,859

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 794
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,703)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 5% (30)

Damage Types:

Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Warpath (25)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Anomaly (23)
Abyssal Echoes (21)
Void Cleave (21)

full oasis
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i wanna do this build guys but i dont have the chest with +4 to warpath where should i take out the points?

junior wren
turbid dome
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then I guess a single point out of wirling steel?

full oasis
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can someone help me with a T4 Sanctum Boss kill?

waxen nymph
turbid dome
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Ok but what did it roll for spell dmg

tardy mirage
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lol

alpine canopy
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Shadow beacon is interesting, I really want it to shine some day

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Or... unshine. Whatever a beacon does that's void.

waxen nymph
tardy mirage
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double it and give it to the next person

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xD

turbid dome
waxen nymph
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The catch up Shade is soooooo nice

turbid dome
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Yee

waxen nymph
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I just realised, my Vk Sorc doesnt all of his Grand Blessings

turbid dome
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its just the drop rate ones right?

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r i g h t ?

turbid dome
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Vlad why

waxen nymph
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I forgot ^^

turbid dome
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Pvt. Valid

waxen nymph
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The Void Portal looks sick !

turbid dome
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ye

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void gang void gang

tardy mirage
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lol

river raptor
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Why am I facing harbinger of defilement in the black sun timeline?

waxen nymph
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Got the Void Dog and the "void"-ish fox to go along

river raptor
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Ooh

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Phew

waxen nymph
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Its the wrong name but the right Harbi

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Hatred I believe

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It will drop a World Splitter (at some point 😄 )

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Testing a new transmog, what do you think Engi ? 😎

turbid dome
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but why not two bee pets

waxen nymph
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Because I only have 1 set of Golden Bees

turbid dome
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real

waxen nymph
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Could have put the Golden Guppy

turbid dome
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Golden Grole when

waxen nymph
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Real

waxen nymph
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Just need to do Heorot

river raptor
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Just got a world splitter \o/

waxen nymph
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GG!!

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A good rolled one ?

river raptor
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Not sure if it does more damage than my exalted axe with loads of void damage..

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Good on all but the void damage. M

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... '

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Damm new phone, can't spell correctly

waxen nymph
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Most important roll is the Mana one

river raptor
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Oh, forgot those. The mana to crit was perfect

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The bonus mana was low /Meh 😦

waxen nymph
river raptor
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Think like
35 void
0.5 crit
37% ish on both mana

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Yeah

waxen nymph
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Pog

river raptor
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Sadly 0lp but will try to egg it

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I'm assuming that my dmg is similar to before even though tooltip says it halved or something

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As I guess it doesn't account the crit

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Also got a leonine helm that I crafted into giving me 100% (a bit more) reduction to crit bonus apart from some str (sadly not vit) and health + exalted mana

turbid dome
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many slightly weaker bonks > fewer big bonks

river raptor
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Will I need the more mana cost for es to do that?

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From the cool down node

turbid dome
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you want to increase the mana cost only if your crit chance isn't at 100%

river raptor
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Currently not hitting 100% crit

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Gotcha. Going for the forge knight node that makes stuff do more damage when it costs more mana too

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So will double dip and hopefully not lose too much damage in the vk tree

turbid dome
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tbh the biggest worry is making sure you have enough max mana

river raptor
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Most likely not 😂 around 160 now iirc. Just out the game down so..

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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in sorc and for judgement it actually does stuff lel

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pally less than sorc but like at least its something

turbid dome
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tbh mana stacking theme wise makes sense for me on void knight

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given owobyss is next to our mana pool

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side note can attunement give something that isn't +2 max mana

alpine canopy
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The mana globe girl is The Observer

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I don't know if we know for sure what connection Observer has with the Shades yet, other than they look the same

turbid dome
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I also thought the life orb was Ettera...

alpine canopy
turbid dome
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yay

alpine canopy
tardy mirage
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1% healing effectiveness if your pally

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lel

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but honestly ye attunement is kinda bland

alpine canopy
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Attunement needs a little something, yeah

tardy mirage
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mana regen owo

turbid dome
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every 20 attunement gives you some base mana regen

tardy mirage
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yus

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wish that was the sorcerer passive tho ngl

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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every 100-300 mana raises regen by 1

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the passive that gives 3% per 100 rn

turbid dome
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give void knight a passive at the end of the tree that converts all the melee nodes in it to void spell nodes

tardy mirage
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eeeeeeeh

turbid dome
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at like 60% of their normal value

tardy mirage
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feel like that would go inside the spell skill trees more than the mastery

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like what they did for frost claw

turbid dome
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have it also change the mastery from void knight to void wizard kappa

tardy mirage
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lol

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honestly it is kinda weird that vitality gives resists

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just feels out of place compared to what other stuff gives lel

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not that imma say no to free resists but yeeee

quiet hearth
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imo we really need efficiency back for some skills, or bases lowered because good grief some things are just unusable because of it

tardy mirage
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lol

alpine canopy
turbid dome
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Chronomancy is my favorite type of magic but so few games ever even try it (for good reason)

alpine canopy
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Yeah, they've got some good concepts of it going in VK

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EHG might just be crazy enough to try it, and I think they can do it

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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but thats basically just VK

alpine canopy
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VK isn't intended to be a caster class though

tardy mirage
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the only melee skill exclusive to VK is erasing strike

alpine canopy
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The balance she mentions in this is a bit outdated now, VK does feel less like a caster nowadays, so I think it's closer to what they intended now

river raptor
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Vk with worldsplitter is like an entirely different class..

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So much more fun

full oasis
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Is there a VK build with Ravaging Aura but without Hammerthrow?

waxen nymph
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Imo if you want to do Rav Aura, you better bring Abyssal Echoe then Hammer Throw

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I think @alpine canopy made smth good

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Rav Aura, AE, Vengeance ?

full oasis
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Sounds good

waxen nymph
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VR and Anomaly/Sigils and should be good

full oasis
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Ok gotta find a guide than

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Im to New on VK to make it myself

full oasis
waxen nymph
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Imo it's a mistake

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Hammer Void Dot scale with Flat Throwing Dmg, Str and Dex
Rav Aura is also Void Dot but is a Spell so scale with Flat Spell, Vit and Str.

full oasis
full oasis
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But Hammer Throw itself just feels awkward to play i just dont like it

full oasis
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I saw people running around like a year ago with anomaly and just the aura as dot build destroying all content that was why i was hoping that the build still exists

waxen nymph
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It did not get nerfed maybe buff even with the new Sceptre
But bossing became harder and that was its weak point

full oasis
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Yeah i know but for me the Main reason to play is monos im at 700 corruption and it feels good enough

alpine canopy
alpine canopy
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I can't remember how to log in to LE Tools to get the build link... oof

waxen nymph
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What's you acn name?

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I can get the profile if you are busy

turbid dome
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gregory vlad the build yoinker

alpine canopy
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My gear sucks, but it's better than nothing lol

turbid dome
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define sucks

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like campaign gear in empowered monos?

turbid dome
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L affix

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where vitality

alpine canopy
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Some of those slots are pretty decent actually, but yeah I have like < T20 rares lol

turbid dome
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fair

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flat move speed on darkstrides is always nice

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but only 31 vitality 😦

alpine canopy
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Not need for vit really on this build

turbid dome
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but vitality

alpine canopy
turbid dome
vague trench
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If I wanted to do a dex stacking javelin build with Sierpins, what would be the best way to do that? 🤔

turbid dome
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my gut says forge guard

warped night
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definitely fg. It's the only sentinel mastery that gains any benefit from stacking dex

turbid dome
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real

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plus like all the throwing support

quiet hearth
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I hate that the one node converts all dodge to armor, I would love to build a dodge FG, but no, sent has to scale with like 5 stats at once for some reason.

turbid dome
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Forge guard def needs more armor

tardy mirage
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ye it would have been funny to go the other way around

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have all your armour convert to dodge

turbid dome
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Just remove the conversion and it’s better

tardy mirage
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nah flip it

turbid dome
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Forge guard has enough armor, getting an ok amount of dodge boosts not die a lot

slow plaza
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I mean ill be honest even with max armor you never end up stacking up to the rest of the game because they have way more layers of defense than Sentinel has

turbid dome
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Just flavor it as deflecting the blow or something

slow plaza
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like its way easier to get to armor cap then it is to make up for all those missing layers

turbid dome
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Real

slow plaza
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like a Druid ends up being tankier while also being at armor cap

turbid dome
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Don’t forget %max health as endurance threshold

slow plaza
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if they made it absurdly easy, maybe but then it becomes and HP stacking fest

tardy mirage
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druid just casually sitting at like 30% generic dmg reduction

turbid dome
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Ima cry if the sentinel rework doesn’t add any more endurance support

tardy mirage
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imma cry if they nerf sent

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they 100% touching volatile reversal ... and i dont trust them to bring the much needed power back elsewhere

turbid dome
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Rive now has 400% added damage effectiveness

tardy mirage
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i think its mostly a dot problem

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like bleed pally

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or FW

quiet hearth
warped night
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holy cow my dw rive/forge strike build would be eating good with that

turbid dome
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more 1 handed + shield gaming

waxen nymph
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New FG passive
1% More Dmg per 2% Block Chance

tardy mirage
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javelin buff when you take battle standard owo
more damage per active minion

desert lodge
waxen nymph
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We are just throwing around some ideas

turbid dome
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new forge guard passive:

if using a twohander, you can equip a shield in your gloves slot (does not count as gloves)

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like a shield thats strapped to your arm and not held

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throw in something like the shield has reduced stats or you need to spend extra points into the passive to get full shield effectiveness