🔱┃sentinel

[digital surge]

Shield builds feel so OP compared to normal melee. They take no dmg.

[turbid dome]

having more than just armor as a defensive layer is great

[misty thistle]

This used on any builds?

[digital surge]

My warlock feels like this game is on ez mode literally. Its so broken compared to any sentinel melee build

[digital surge]

Good lvling unique for sure!

[misty thistle]

I'm warpath so its useless for me

[turbid dome]

like 100 flat melee dmg is great on any build early on

[misty thistle]

Wouldnt dreamthorn be better with 70 and 40% pen?

[turbid dome]

but like if your at monos/post campaign a random rare is probably better

[turbid dome]

a dream thorn is probably better

[misty thistle]

yeah got one mega cheap, im cruising through monos now

just need to get a decent rare

what you think about buying the axes with 125 melee? Or better just browsing trade for a good one

[turbid dome]

ideally a random good base with an exalted flat melee void affix

[misty thistle]

can we check our favour without going bazaar?

cant seem to see it anywhere

[turbid dome]

it should be in the faction screen menu

[misty thistle]

I can get this

[alpine canopy]

There's a button for your factions menu, I don't remember the default, Y? U? Something like that maybe.

[misty thistle]

that should absolutely toast enemies at first monolith no?

[turbid dome]

yeah

thats like 200 flat

you can try to chaos glyph the melee cold into something more useful

[misty thistle]

nooo i neeed rank 5 haha im like 4 and a bit

gonna go smash some monoliths hope its still there

[turbid dome]

should be extra fast given the event

[misty thistle]

greed, living or fortune to start?

gold/glyph/unique drop rate

[digital surge]

2 lvls away from equipping my world splitter that rolled 0.5% crit, 50% mana gain and has +100 melee void + 99 mana / mana regen. Gonna be beast

Should have over 1000 mana then

[turbid dome]

[digital surge]

Having no avcess to leonine helm or citadel boots hurrrrts. I get crit hard. Woven flesh might be an answer

Pre lvl 85

[slim nova]

Playing shield Bash build, just got a drop worth showing.

[tardy mirage]

owo nice

[strong jungle]

hi guys new to the game:

im currently using void knight, and i have a question in specializations

there's a skill branch for resonating cleave, which casts abyssal echoes after using void cleave

do i need to put in abyssal echose in my skill bar to have it leveled up in specializations or doesn't need that?

[turbid dome]

you don't need it on your bar, same with healing hands if you have the auto use on melee hit or using smite

[strong jungle]

so the skill levels up as long you use it, even passively (or activates on some effect)?

[turbid dome]

your specialized skills gain xp whenever you gain xp

[strong jungle]

OHH got it thanks!

[turbid dome]

[cobalt blade]

ayy Eternity Cache hates me

2 2LP worldsplitter gone

[digital surge]

?? As in you slammed a 2lp with those stats?

[turbid dome]

0.4% crit chance, throw it out anyways

[harsh nova]

pog pog

living the dream i see

[digital surge]

Rrally eant that 0.5 sadly. Annoying how that 1 roll makes or breaks the item. I can deal with a lower mana roll but that BASE crit chance is way too good

[harsh nova]

unless ur scaling the mana cost the base crit really isn't that crazy

even after % crit rate ur talking about like 8% difference in .4 and .5

[cobalt blade]

I wanted the t7 crit chance and t5 void dmg in

[digital surge]

8% base crit. Which is multiplied by crit % rolls. Its big

[harsh nova]

not true

i said after

a 30 cost mana skill is going to give 15 crit rate or 12 crit rate with a .4

[cobalt blade]

Time to Engi to the Lightful Arbor. No more void for you

[harsh nova]

after % that's literally like 8%

on a 2lp i would absolutely balance out crit rate elsewhere and get attack speed even if .4 roll

[turbid dome]

you fool thats a ruined era area

[digital surge]

At 80 cost, 0.5 gives 40% base + 9% from tree is a total of 54%. 0.4 is ok i guess but man. Id rsther get a single 90-100% crit roll on an item and be crit capped

[harsh nova]

u shouldn't be scaling cost

the only increases mana requirement to go infinite

by a huge margin

way more than finding more crit rolls

[digital surge]

Dont we want erasing to coat more?

[harsh nova]

no

[digital surge]

Why?

[harsh nova]

because it's not needed

you are better to invest into ehop

ehp*

reaching 100% rate even with a .4 is super trivial

[digital surge]

So how much crit is needed for 100% uptime on void well ST?

[harsh nova]

there's a calc u can see depending on ur stats

frozen sentinel has it i think

you can also run things like crit vuln on void cleave

which is huge

crit rate on time bubble

those 2 alone cover like 30-40%

[digital surge]

Interesting. I thought increasing cost was good due to the 0.5% more dmg for cost in FG tree and other stuff.

Which is iver 40% multi

[harsh nova]

if u had a 2lp world splitter i wouldn't care about the distinction between .4 and .5

the gain in 2nd lp way outweighs what you gain from the crit roll

getting attack speed on a world splitter can gain you 40% overall damage, not just crit multi

[digital surge]

Reversal gives a good chunk of as

[harsh nova]

and that's in proportion to your current attack speed in build correct

so if you have 80% attackspeed and add 40% attack speed that's a 50% increase

• most world splitter builds are running super low attack speed outside of buffs and so the 2nd lp and what u can gain is insane

during echos for instance reversal is a stupid poor skill to use

[cobalt blade]

its in an alternate dimension whr there is no Ruined Era but Intact Era, you dont see voidlings there but lightlings. Also the Lightful Arbor

[digital surge]

Yrsh it feels bad having 0 mana or hp gain lol

[cobalt blade]

I have always wondered atk spd vs flat dmg

at least in the context of HIT warpath

[harsh nova]

attack speed is the 2nd most restricitive stat almost always

and just reference ur % overall change

[cobalt blade]

well we dont get flat void any where else

we got the option of atk spd on gloves

[harsh nova]

yeah both stats are the hardest to scale, and weapon can get both

so i will always say a 2lp with those will be BIS for vk hit builds

even fully buffed ect im at like, 120% attack speed on my VK

but im at 400% crit multi and 1600% increase

[cobalt blade]

do you actually need atk spd on ES?

[harsh nova]

oh yeah def

your time to kill will reduce the greatest by doing that

at least on bosses, which is the most relevant imo

[cobalt blade]

I guess with sufficient mana pool that you can just endlessly bonk, atk spd is great

[harsh nova]

yeah

on paper i don't see how any other stat can compete

like, even in the same galaxy

the amount of crit multi and other damage stats you get in void knight especially doesn't make sense to scale any other big bonk stat, in theory you could make ur echos better by single hitting waves instead of 2 hitting but i don't think that out weighs having better boss consistency

[cobalt blade]

yay

[peak hollow]

yo I'm leveling a veekay but dunno what endgame build I want yet, anyone got some planners or guides to share? Would be lovely 🙂

[cobalt blade]

the popular build for VK is manastacking ES but I am not the best person to ask for a planner

Nacho, Engi, Vlad can help mebbe

[digital surge]

Nemesis slammed 2lp on a shattered chains baby!

[peak hollow]

sweet, did you egg it it or get lucky 😄

[digital surge]

Egged

Watch me brick it

[digital surge]

So. I shoukd be taking points out of the +45 cost to ES yeh? Im losing a bunch of dmg multi and crit chance by doing that.

[cobalt blade]

trying to void cleave in Sanctuary of Eterra feelsbad

mebbe just skill issue

[small rivet]

Need help for Erasing Strike build. Option A (Phys dmg %) or Option B (Bleed for timerot)?

[cobalt blade]

isnt ES void dmg?

or you are just asking for leveling

also time rot is not really a big thing for ES build i think.. dot dmg dont help much

and time rot have a max stack of 12

[small rivet]

quciker to get 12 stacks

[digital surge]

At 12 stacks it gives a huge dmg bonus in the ES tree.

[cobalt blade]

there are probably nodes or passives that can get you chance to time rot pretty easily

[digital surge]

I take the +5 timerot stacks on voidcleave too

[small rivet]

Is there a physical portion to ES?

I thought there was

[digital surge]

Nah. Just melee and void. No phys

[cobalt blade]

this is the default scaling tags

[small rivet]

Ahhh I got melee and phys mixed

[cobalt blade]

also i am playing warpath so it is pretty fast to stack time rot

[small rivet]

The bleed was a missed t7 melee void dmg slam 😦

[cobalt blade]

ooo today i learned

ooo

[digital surge]

And thats more dmg which is a multi

[digital surge]

Using ES too?

[cobalt blade]

nope

Warpath

[digital surge]

@harsh nova you got a link to your ES build?

[odd rampart]

Hello, I'm currently playing this build. What do you think about it?? Is there anything better than this?https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbMRzd6A

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (79)

General:

▸ Health: 3,507, Regen: 26/s
▸ Mana: 959.97, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 49 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 131% / 77% / 107% / 68% / 81% / 64% / 77%
▸ EHP: 13,890 / 13,890 / 13,890 / 25,506 / 13,890 / 12,458 / 13,890

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 773
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (9,335)
▸ Block Chance: 54%, Mitigation: 51% (2,105)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Void / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (24)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)

Used unique items:

• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Soul Bastion
• Devotion
• Orian's Sun Seal

This build has a guide:

Holy Smiter Paladin Endgame Build Guide! Devotion Amulet... 9Th Iteration! Lightning! by Action RPG

[cobalt blade]

my Envy glyphs are tanking hard

[digital surge]

Just fsrming the boss and harby on repeat? Lol

[cobalt blade]

yes

PAIN

[digital surge]

Ehat did you whiff?

[cobalt blade]

both T7 melee crit and t5 flat void

[digital surge]

What % is the t7 melee crit on the 2h??

[cobalt blade]

16-18%

[digital surge]

Ahh crit chance

Mind linking your build?

[cobalt blade]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9vmPxGB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,769, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 547.47, Regen: 18.67/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 105% / 99% / 58% / 84% / 32% / 75%
▸ EHP: 10,884 / 10,884 / 10,884 / 12,666 / 10,884 / 7,611 / 10,884

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 909
▸ Armor Mitigation: 55% (3,670)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (24)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• World Splitter
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Anchor of Oblivion

[digital surge]

Does the build do good dmg compared to erasing strike? And ST?

[jagged oriole]

whats up with sentinel getting such good drop gear

[cobalt blade]

Doing fine at 700-800c currently, gear still progressing. It is just another variant of warpath but not very popular

Not many play with Warrior's Fury

A dps reference would be I can kill Julra T4 b4 her second time bomb

An endgame ES can kill her b4 the first time bomb, Nacho did it

well.. my warpath is the ramping dmg and playing with mana style, while ES is the big bonk burst

so its a playstyle preference

whew 2 unexpected red rings today

[odd rampart]

Do you have any link to your build??

[cobalt blade]

Just a few message up 😆 but here you go #🔱┃sentinel message

[odd rampart]

thank, im miss this 😉

[odd rampart]

any loot filter?

[harsh nova]

no

i have the most disgusting erasing strike chest anyways you don't wanna see 😆

making an erasing strike cost 75 mana makes you need 75+ 60 + 60 + 15 for void cleave +35 for abyssal echos. this is 245 x 3 mana to maintain infinite strikes

and that's assuming you always do 3 strikes between a cleave

so for echos ur really wanting to push into 800-ish

after that you just build hp otherwise ur gonna die to random trash

and 100 mana = 10 crit multi, it's almost the most irrelevant line of stat on a world splitter

void knights are already pushing 400+ crit multi

[digital surge]

Im at 865 mana currently with my world splitter on. Need more crit tho im not quite comfortable with the void well uptime

[harsh nova]

for crit uptime i highly highly recommend at least time bubble crit nodes

cleave can be a little more annoying - but worth for bosses as well

usually what i'm running

this gives 100% uptime on bubble with IAS and crit chance, also the node for +2 seconds when something leaves the bubble is clean

with 150% chance just on that node

[digital surge]

Thats solid

[harsh nova]

so obvisouly depending on ur base rate, this could be 25-30 crit rate in it's own

big fan of 3lp phantom grips for erasing strike also

[digital surge]

Just for the implicit?

[harsh nova]

+2 base crit also

my erasing strike chest btw @digital surge 😆

so the way i balance my build not really gonna be relevant

[cobalt blade]

D.I.S.G.U.S.T.I.N.G!

Everytime I see it

just utter disgusting

[harsh nova]

yep

[cobalt blade]

the fact that u still have 25 FP, you can still dupe it with creation

[harsh nova]

i just did actually

[cobalt blade]

Disgusting to the core!

U DISGUSTING

[harsh nova]

was considering rerolling the ranges but decided against

[cobalt blade]

they are on the higher end already

[harsh nova]

yeah didn't wanna bonk it

[cobalt blade]

only thing worth spending a litte FP is prolly rerolling implicit

[harsh nova]

sadly i don't even play es 😆

the chest is actually a little awkward for the build

[cobalt blade]

🔨

you would have gotten vit

mana?

[harsh nova]

yeah the mana

reaching 800 is really hard

chest being one of the biggest rolls you can get

[cobalt blade]

hybrid mana is on helm or body armor

[harsh nova]

i have a double mana leonine makes it manageable

[cobalt blade]

your chest literally grows hair wearing it

[harsh nova]

😆

best part - not faction tagged

[jagged oriole]

wtf is up with this patch with loot lizards etc

theres no items on sale

theres 20 relics with smite level

globbally

[cobalt blade]

I SAW AND JUST DIDNT WANNA MENTION IT YOU DISGUSTING CREATURE lovely little CHEST BEATING VK

[harsh nova]

might mess around and list it for 10b one day

[digital surge]

Mines a +2 erasing +29% mana. That life roll and 4 ranks tho on yours wtf man lool

[harsh nova]

🙂

nemesis op

the chest isn't THAT good like i was saying cuz ur losing ur biggest mana rolls

but it looks good 😆

[digital surge]

Yeah. 10b gold tho. Thats gold dupe buyers territory tho cos how does snyone make that efficiently enough in a cycle?

[harsh nova]

it's in legacy

[digital surge]

Ah

[harsh nova]

im not playing this reset

not enough time for a whole new build really

[digital surge]

I still haveto slam the 2lp shattered chains i got. Looking for a t7 hybrid

[harsh nova]

hybrid isn't bis

is just increase hp

vk has enough flat

[digital surge]

Ok then. Looking for that. Chance to whiff it obvs

[harsh nova]

yeah, i managed to get hybrid + increase on mine 😆

but i bricked the next 5 for other builds

so good luck

[digital surge]

Ty. Not too qorried as im just waiting for 9th October. D4

[jagged oriole]

i wonder if swaddling of the erased could be better than exalted gloves for my build

also im almost tempted to go COF

cuz the shops are empty asf for sentinels

[turbid dome]

Facts I love nemisus

[jagged oriole]

engi do you know if i get like 15% melee attack speed and just 15% generic attack speed if its kinda the same

like itll be the same value?

[harsh nova]

it is the same

[jagged oriole]

oh okay

[harsh nova]

assuming ur using melee

[jagged oriole]

cuz rn im getting swaddling of the erased cuz i realized its kinda better than just getting 2 good prefixes

[harsh nova]

you could use generic with throwing ect

is only difference

[obsidian valve]

which universe are you in bro ?

[harsh nova]

the good one

[jagged oriole]

How tf did u make this lmao

I can't even find +1 smite relics on marker for under 200k and u got thi!?!

[turbid dome]

Nacho is a gamer

[digital surge]

Its a legacy chest. Who knows lol.

[alpine canopy]

Only way to get T6+ non-experimental seals is nemesis, so the answer is "get lucky"

[harsh nova]

is from this cycle lol

[misty thistle]

Is there a mid depth guide from any content creators you guys can recall that goes into a bit more detail once i'm closing in on end game (in monoliths now)

More looking at gearing wise, how to increase DPS (I know a lot of that comes from levels too) and defenses. I know the basics tbf playing a lot of POE and Diablo, cap resses, beef up HP, get a bit of mana regen and then dps focus?

can probably push it pretty far myself tbh

And blessings, of course

[misty thistle]

Think this is worth pumping some void damage into? that area of effect could be nice for clearing earlier monoliths

[harsh nova]

cursedone has a lot of data

on how to scale damage, trunklabs i think is the website also

but really it's not complicated, you have different multiplicitive buckets that ur trying to scale as high and as many different buckets as possible. for instance Increase damage and crit multi are two separate buckets that damage gets put through, multiplicitively.

and then you have enemy defenses that you can reduce in various ways to amplify your damage like pen and armor shred

[fast galleon]

hi i plan on making a hammer build is there any good low lvl filters?:

i dont wana take the time to make one myself atm so hoping some1 just has 1

[turbid dome]

get heavy'z sentinel loot filter and then just make a rule on top that highlights things with throwing affixes

[digital surge]

I still like that node in the FG tree that gives 0.5% more dmg PER mana cost of a skill

[grim fog]

Wait does this mean Healing hands can be triggered by Shieldbash? ik it cant warpath cause is a channel skill but I wonder if this also would work on Void skills

[waxen nymph]

Yes and if it's a Melee Void yes

[shut gorge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/stebl/character/Scar

anyone able to offer tips on how to progress? i can grind 100c monos, but usually can't kill bosses.
i know i need a better belt + chest for more HP and the leech spell dmg blessing.
just feels like it's going too slow and i'm not progressing

[waxen nymph]

In Smite you need to max Sacrifice

It's super strong

Improved Fire Burst (Holy Aura) should be maxed too

[shut gorge]

Better than crits? It kept draining my health too much

I guess both. Sacrifice and crits are both effectively multiplicative

[waxen nymph]

You can find Crit multi elsewhere
More Dmg is only in the tree
And for the drain, get some leech

Spell leech blessing from Rahyeh or a Bleeding Heart

[jagged oriole]

@waxen nymph how do i show u here

tbh i was kinda thinking video would be easier but idk how to

also holy crap i just chaosed into %hp

[waxen nymph]

That's sweet

You could make a video, or share your planner

[jagged oriole]

is there a way to copy paste my character into a planner

so u can see real stats

and like im not in empowered monos yet so maybe i shouldnt say its good idk

[shut gorge]

if your char is online you can look them up here - https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/
dunno about offline chars

[jagged oriole]

ima have to reopen the game to get the info but ok

[waxen nymph]

Is it off line?

Cause I cant find it with the account name Siduri

[jagged oriole]

im just not online rn

doing it now sry

[waxen nymph]

I still should be able to see it

[jagged oriole]

oh but i always play online

[waxen nymph]

It doesn't matter

[jagged oriole]

@waxen nymph https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Siduri/character/Sidurauto

[waxen nymph]

So weird, I can't see this character in your profile

[jagged oriole]

can u see now?

[waxen nymph]

When I clixk on the link it opens fine but I don't see it in the list above, is what I meant

Anyway it seems to be going pretty good!

[jagged oriole]

its surprisingly tanky to

obviously im not in 300 corruption empowered monos

but still

[tardy mirage]

pretty sure it can on warpath but it only triggers once the very first time it hits something

it wont trigger more in the same press/hold

[waxen nymph]

Melee Healing Hands can procc it too

[leaden crater]

Kinda wanna do a staff/scepter healing hands melee build (cast on strike, not melee node) but I have few ideas past that lol.

[pale pond]

Can warpath smite trigger echo?

Or any other smite used non-directly

[pale pond]

Where is it said that channeling skills can’t trigger? 🤔

[tight jolt]

Is that why everyone grabs that node? Double cast?

[alpine canopy]

Only direct uses can be echoed, not procs

[alpine canopy]

They can trigger it, it's only one trigger per use though - 1 channel = 1 use.

[pale pond]

And if a skill is activated by, say, equipment?

[alpine canopy]

That's a proc

everything other than you pressing the button to cast the thing on your bar is a proc

[pale pond]

So if I plan smite build it’s useless to pick void knight?

[alpine canopy]

No, you don't need to run echoes, void smite is pretty strong and vk has the best scaling for it

[lone ibex]

Can I use any two-handed weapon as paladin?

Or are there some upgrades that restrict my options that I would be throwing if I didnt lock myself off some

[pale pond]

Do these work same and can trigger limited times per target per "one" warpath?

[alpine canopy]

No, these are "on hit", so it works for every hit you make. The HH proc is differently worded (it says "when you use a melee attack that hits" or something like that).

[pale pond]

Thanks. Btw, if I put two swords doesn’t it mean I can proc 6 smites per sec?

[heady ginkgo]

someone exp?

[cerulean sorrel]

Question, how good is the rive+healing hands build this patch? I think im still missing some peices for it to work, just seems like I dont generate enough ward to offset the lower hp, but the time i have consistantly enough +ward with hp to be more than my raw hp usually packs are dead. I go with with <1k hp and <400ish ward and it can be awhile to build up while taking damage, whileif i go non-ward im sitting at 2.5k hp and 300ish ward going in and rarely do I die

[alpine canopy]

No, those % chances are added together, same rate limit

[alpine canopy]

It still works well, it's just very different now. Investing in ward is probably not worthwhile anymore.

[cerulean sorrel]

So just go for hp/endurance and heal through dmg and whatever ward i get is a bonus?

eh just killed drive, was hoping to get to enjoy the OP version alil, but I had IRL health issues for over past year so had other things i had to focus on. sucks when you miss out on the fun train

just really hate non-ward builds, seems like they hit their ceiling so much easier/quicker. I feel like you can never build non-ward defensives enough to really climb. or if you do it takes forever to kill things

[pale pond]

Can forged weapons proc smite or throwing axes?

They say it inherits all off my weapon stats)

[alpine canopy]

If OP is what you find fun, there's a sorc build that can 1-shot Abby right now. Also, there's Falconer.

[alpine canopy]

No, complicated effects like that don't work on minions, not intentionally, it's a technical limit

[pale pond]

I’m wavering now.

If I pick vk, I can try to utilize void rift but only through void aegis and warpath(I can though take other skills to upgrade it but not to use them directly). In this case I’m not sure if void rift will be good enough.

On the other hand, I can pick fg and try to build more defensively🤔 there will be autocasted forged weapon and circle of shields

[alpine canopy]

Void rifts are never great, outside of orb they are a little side thing that doesn't really amount to anything

[turbid dome]

Void rifts are ok with erasing strike to clear the lil dudes around the big guy you slam

assuming your have a lot of vit

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, best case they do a lil bit of clear assist

[pale pond]

But shields and weapons without minion buffing passives and affixes won’t be great as well, will they?)

[alpine canopy]

Right, if you don't build into them, they won't do a ton

and they are a big point investment on warpath if you summon them that way

[pale pond]

Yep, 5 points

But I can increase warpath range by 100%🤣

Don’t know for what though 🌛

[unborn slate]

Can someone recommend a fun&good build for sentinels? Any masteries but I want to lightly Push corruption (500-600)

With Planner would be perfect if not ill just figure sth out ^^

[light torrent]

Could someone help me understand what i could do to upgrade my build i'm a little bit lost, seems like i lack defense and maybe some ofense https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Mhakxym/character/GregoryCharles

i'm a bit lost on which direction to go

[unborn slate]

Get some better Blessings is what Id do

Im not familiar with void knight builds be the blessings seems weird (wrong ones?) and you can always get higher values

[light torrent]

blessings are pretty much the first one i got, i'll begin farming for specific one

[unborn slate]

They are usually a good way to improve your build while you still get gear to optimize by running the monos

[alpine canopy]

I don't think you can make warpath cost 10 mana, but even if you could, warpath doesn't snapshot (unlike most channeled skills).

[misty thistle]

How much hp would you say is neccesary at 72 doing first monoliths, on eye of the storm

im at 1500 but being rank 6 i dont have access to all the tier 6 hp items

[misty thistle]

Is rive build a thing?

If so, this is worth a decent amount right?

[tardy mirage]

i mean rive builds exist

VK rive and pally rive

[misty thistle]

Thats not a bad ammy at all, if i craft a suffix I cant sell it later can I?

Damn, the forgotten knight set looks pretty strong but its sword, shield and ammy isnt it? Ammy is doing loads of damage with time rot i think

[alpine canopy]

Yes, you can sell it still, the forge doesn't affect its ability to be sold

[misty thistle]

It seems that set item Forgotten knight amulet is ridiculously strong right now

I'm doing about 2x more damage with it, due to time rot maybe?

[tardy mirage]

ye sets that take up weapon slots are very hard to work with

would need to have some sort of supplimentary scaling like the lightning meteor set

[misty thistle]

The Amulet itself is pretty strong but I don't have high crit rate to take advantage of other one

Found an LP1 Titan heart, best to add Warpath levels to it?

[tardy mirage]

expecially in the case of the set for forged weapons ... how are you even supposed to use it when your sacrificing the one piece that all your minions are copying for something pretty meh

[turbid dome]

I always try to slam %increased health onto my 1lp titan hearts, seeing like 70% increased health is fun

but putting your main skill onto it is almost always a great idea

[misty thistle]

Yeah, I'll try and get either. Think I need to get a new weapon too. But need rank 8 to get really beefed up ones

That's gonna take a bit of grinding

I've noticed my main skill is not levelling anymore, it's 19 but even after clearing like 4 monoliths it's not leveled up...

[turbid dome]

I think you need to be like level 75 or something to get your skills to lvl 20?

[terse harness]

you can see exp bar of skill upper left corner

when you open skill tree

[misty thistle]

I noticed the auto cast one, em anomaly went to 20. And Warpath and cleave got stuck about 15% through 19

Yeah I had a look but just thought it was taking awfully long! That was all

[small veldt]

How potent is fire warpath with smite?

I was thinking of going explody mobs route on smite

Where enemies go boom on death

[waxen nymph]

Quite good

[waxen nymph]

Not good

[tacit zealot]

anyone tried a full judgement aura focused build since it was buffed last patch?

[waxen nymph]

I havent seen anyone, but it should perform roughly the same as before
The added Dmg Effect was buffed but the most important node (the one that consume mana for More Dmg) was nerfed quite hard

[violet yoke]

Seems ok. I run it with "The Judicator", but at the moment im only at 100 corruption. Kill bosses take some time. Maybe it will get better.

[tacit zealot]

you able to share what you have so far?

[violet yoke]

Dont know. I mean there is the lastepochtools site, but i dont want to create my build in this tool manually. Is there a way to copy and paste or export and import? Maybe any other way?

[tacit zealot]

char profile at top in "new" then this screen comes up

or alternitively just a screenshot of the currently equiped gear and the skill tree of judgement. ill make my own just wanna see how you went with yours

[violet yoke]

Its not ready yet. When im lvl 85 i get some helmet and boots to reduce crit damage i take to 0%. So i change the helmet and boots to something else. At the moment i farm blessings. So they are not perfect.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKLkyzvQ

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Paladin (66)

General:

▸ Health: 3,268, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 293.78, Regen: 12.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 45 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 192% / 97% / 150% / 51% / 76% / 72% / 87%
▸ EHP: 7,858 / 7,858 / 7,858 / 7,984 / 7,858 / 7,630 / 7,858

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 982
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,501)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 16%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Holy Aura (21)
• Smite (21)
• Javelin (23)
• Judgement (23)
• Sigils Of Hope (23)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• The Judicator
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Bleeding Heart
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[tacit zealot]

why did you choose titan heart?

[small veldt]

Aaw, how come

[waxen nymph]

Probably for the massive hp and the Less Dmg Taken with a 2h

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt do any significant dmg
Its a lot of pts to get to 100%
And it doesnt help you on single target

[violet yoke]

Because "The Judicator" is a Two handed weapon

Give less damage taken

[waxen nymph]

Oo Not taking Pious Offering ?
No Volatile Reversal ?

[tacit zealot]

is that the reason you're doing a 2h for the damage reduction?

[tacit zealot]

does pious apply to the dot aura?

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[tacit zealot]

i thought the mana consumed was only for initial hit?

[violet yoke]

No "The Judicator" Buffs Judgement and Javelin and i also use Smite

[waxen nymph]

Nope

[tacit zealot]

ahh so you're not going for pure judgement aura then

[violet yoke]

Smite gets triggered trhough Javelin for bosses and the Staff triggers it when i farm echos

[waxen nymph]

It doesnt specify Melee or Hit
Its just "Judgement deals more Dmg" so it apply to subskills

[violet yoke]

I only use Javelin and Judgement. Smite triggers passive

[tacit zealot]

yeah thats fair but i was gonna go judgement gloves and rahyeh shield for the extra points, fire damage etc etc to buff just the judgement aura only other skill that would proc is HH

[violet yoke]

The only rotation i have is: Javelin -> Judgment. Feels a bit better then using a 3-4 skill rotation

[waxen nymph]

You should take Sacrifice inside Smite, the More Dmg is insane

And applies to Fissure

[violet yoke]

Oh i didnt know what!!!

[waxen nymph]

Conflagration (More Hits Dmg to Ignited enemies) does not because Fissure is not a Hit

And I feel like you should take Fissure Duration too

Longer Fissures = More Fissures = More Dmg

[tacit zealot]

also if you didnt know they exsisted there is the judgement gloves and the rahyeh shield which gives +judgement levels, fire damage and healing eff. idk if you intended on going 2h/smite like this but they are more options if not

[violet yoke]

Im not sure, because smite gets triggered very often. So i have always fissures. Would be usefull in echos when the all over the ground. Or does fissures stack?

Also i had mana problems at the start, but now it seems to work. Smite costs mana and the fissures too on trigger

[violet yoke]

I know that, but i wanted to use the staff, because i was curious about it. And i wanted the smite triggers

[tacit zealot]

yeah thats fair i was just making sure. i wont be going them gloves myself but the shield i will get. unless i get a max cdr affix on those gloves XD

is there any good mana regen items that would synergise well for a judgement aura focused pally?

[waxen nymph]

Its a Spear

[tacit zealot]

generic fire damage doesnt do anything for the aura part of it does it? only damage over time specifically?

[violet yoke]

Oh yes, you are right, sorry 😄

[waxen nymph]

Fire Dmg apply to everything fire

The Aura is Fire so it works

[tacit zealot]

this game doesnt stop being confusing hahah i assumed it was like minions how generic melee damage doesnt work i thought with the aura being DOT only it needed DOT like ignites or poisons i didnt think fire damage boosted ignite damage

[waxen nymph]

Since you can only have 1 aura at a time you usually dump all your mana and use VR
The aura duration and VR cd are pretty similar

[tacit zealot]

yeah this isnt meant to do well i just wanna see what i can do when i dont do what is best lol

[waxen nymph]

It's because you are not your minions. %Fire Dmg is applied to you. So it works with everything Fire you do.

[tacit zealot]

so DOT and fire damage increase it the same amount like how ele damage and spell damage are essentially the same just different top and bottom rolls?

or the values they can be i mean?

like these both increase the aura damage the exact same?? but id want DOT because it has the higher max roll??

[small veldt]

Yes, elemental just covers all elemental dots

Correction

Elemental is both direct elemental and elemental dot damage

[tacit zealot]

what about spell? i assume thats the same so you could double dip in DOT and spell since they both go to 210 or same with fire damage and spell instead of any dot and the aura damage will be the exact same?

[gusty abyss]

If you are gonna scale an elemental dot, use its related affix "Elemental Damge Over Time", highest values.

[tacit zealot]

yeah different values im aware of im just trying to fully figure out if i went something like "spell damage" and "fire damage" it would be the same damage as if i went "fire damage" and "damage over time" since all max values of those are 210% at t7 max roll

[gusty abyss]

yep, if the ability has the tags "FIre", "Spell" and "Damage Over Time" then all 3 would work equally

[tacit zealot]

seems a lil broken with the right setup then since you can double dip XD

[gusty abyss]

there is no dubble dipping though?

[tacit zealot]

fire and spell both can go to 210% where elemental only goes to 158% what i mean is double dip 2 prefixes which you can get higher rolls rather than being locked at one prefix that goes to 210 and 1 at 158 you can have 2 with 210%

im high so just typing lazily mb lol

[gusty abyss]

Well, elemental dot goes way higher still (:

[small veldt]

That's not really double dipping is it tho?

[gusty abyss]

its not double dipping, just being able to scale with multiple tags

[small veldt]

Yeah

[tacit zealot]

got 400 hours and never noticed this exists haha

like i said im high in my mind its double dipping since i see the aura as DOT lol

[gusty abyss]

It is not available on everything

[small veldt]

Double dipping is using a mechanic to gain a greater benefit than intended iirc

[gusty abyss]

IE, wand and staff, but not on IE sword or sceptre

[tacit zealot]

potato potahto 😆

[small veldt]

When you stack affixes, that's not double dipping

Does LE have any mechanics that does allow double dipping?

[tacit zealot]

potentially a few builds in the past but got patched dont fully recall but maybe something with warlock when it was released

[waxen nymph]

Imo double dipping getting multiple (at least 2) benefit from the same stat investment.
So like Att on Storm Totems gives you
Flat Dmg + Inc Dmg + Pen + %More Dmg (with Max mana)

[harsh nova]

And it was on this day last epoch literally killed my gpu 😭

Void knight way too stronk

[turbid dome]

wait like killed or killed

is gpu fully rip?

[pale pond]

Don’t holy aura fiery inquisition stacks don’t proc on warpath?

[alpine canopy]

They do

[harsh marsh]

Hey guys, i started as a paladin to play shield bash but i had to realize that skill is not for me, as it can be really boring/slow sometimes. Is there any recommended spell to use besides Hammer Throw? I wanna play something fairly tanky. Thanks for the answers in advance! 🙏

[pale pond]

Can divine bolts, if I pick the next passive adding 5 bolts to proc, hit the same enemy 6 times?) Or it should be different ones?

[waxen nymph]

No

[waxen nymph]

Could do Hammer Throw + Smite

[shut gorge]

could check out smite + warpath

[waxen nymph]

Once you get the idols its really good

Either Bleed or Spell Crit

[harsh marsh]

what i meant is, i dont want to play hammer throw again really, so yea.

[harsh marsh]

gotcha

[waxen nymph]

Oh Sorry

[harsh marsh]

probably i used a bad word to say it 😄

[waxen nymph]

Multiple Flavor of Warpath
Erasing Strike

[pale pond]

Does it have some limit per a second or can proc 999 times?)

[waxen nymph]

10/2sec I believe

It used to say it but its gone since the reset 🤷

[viscid aurora]

Hi, any idea of good range paladin build? 🙂

[gusty abyss]

This is still the case

[pale pond]

Pet?☕️🙂

Orbs

Smite

[harsh marsh]

Also i found a Consecrated Ground stacker build on LEPlanner, but the items seems pretty hard to get as a casual, any of you tried to play it with lower "investment"?

[pale pond]

Is retribution any good?

[waxen nymph]

This ?

[pale pond]

Yep

[waxen nymph]

Its nice to put 1 pt to procc stuffs like Flame Burst

Other than that its not good

[harsh nova]

yeah have to rma it

[harsh nova]

running my old 1660 now ffs

[turbid dome]

Is there a micro center near you?

[harsh nova]

nah

thankfully my card is 10 days within warranty expiring

so just send me a new one suckers 😆

[turbid dome]

lol

we love to see it

[harsh nova]

medium graphics week i suppose 🤷‍♂️

[jaunty helm]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BE4znxpQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (86) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,510, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 764.51, Regen: 17.76/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 5 Att / 47 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 87% / 101% / 113% / 71% / 93% / 80%
▸ EHP: 11,151 / 9,885 / 9,885 / 12,584 / 11,151 / 9,885 / 9,885

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,020
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,905)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire / Melee, Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (23)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)

Used unique items:

• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Titan Heart
• World Splitter
• Shattered Chains
• The Inevitable
• Phantom Grip
• Siphon of Anguish
• Orian's Eye
• Anchor of Oblivion

[jaunty helm]

Progress on my Abby killer. Erasing Strike

KIlled him a few times with Red Rings too, i.e. no Doom dps boost. Longer fight but a lot more tanky.

Keep going back and forth between applying 12 time rot stacks for the 100% more dmg and just going with more dps nodes in Erasing Strike. When you can maintain the 12 stacks on the boss it's nice but when you're moving around a lot and the stacks drop off it's not as nice.

[harsh nova]

yeah doom isn't necessary if ur dying, gotta have the hp first

[jaunty helm]

Yeah my only deaths realistically come from me making mistakes

[harsh nova]

i was comfortable doing aberoth at around 35-3700 hp and then just pushing damage for rive at least

long as u can tank the 3 flail hit rest pretty chill

[jaunty helm]

yeah that's fairly easy tank for my guy now

does Rive do more dps than ES eventually?

[harsh nova]

sort of? it stuns way easier and makes u have to do less movements

like aberoth big slam u have to run from u can just stun him right out of it with erasing strike

Erasing strike stuns* not rive

rive has really stable dps - and it has no mana cost so it's harder to make it do more

my fastest rive aberoth kill was 2:30

[jaunty helm]

ah nice maybe I should invest in some more stun then, that mechanic with the slam is the only thing that gets me now

[harsh nova]

something like 200% increased stun seems like a good amount without burdening the build

[jaunty helm]

sweet, will give that a try

[harsh nova]

iirc there's a solid idol with hp u can get? then the timeline blessing

[jaunty helm]

perfect

something to tinker with

could drop doom belt and go with that %more stun belt then too I suppose

[harsh nova]

would also just drop healing hands

run anomaly

you can get so much more value

[jaunty helm]

I use healing hands as invuln travel skill

[harsh nova]

anomaly can self enable 100% uptime

[jaunty helm]

do you get some tankiness with anom?

[harsh nova]

void cleave much better movement skill because you can autocast abyssal echos

which just gives u the attack speed + blind

[jaunty helm]

so many times though, healing hands saved my ass lol

[harsh nova]

lots of ways to play - just some things to play with

[jaunty helm]

mainly because where I play I have 200ms ping and the slams are not reliably easy to avoid e.g. harby slams

[small veldt]

I've a question, if you spin2win smite, does the teleport also spin you? That said, i assume it keeps the cooldown making it a dead skill, albeit fun on paper.

[jaunty helm]

brb

[harsh nova]

for void knight this is my preffered set of skills with rive being whatever main skill you want

[small veldt]

If you pick teleport node on smite

[gusty abyss]

Triggered smites will not teleport you

[small veldt]

Gotcha

Didn't think so but never hurt to ask

[gusty abyss]

How? Does it not specify needing to directly cast abyssal echoes to activate this buff?

[harsh nova]

ah yeah just the blind comes on auto

and u get increased damage vs blind

[gusty abyss]

that is on the AS node as well

[harsh nova]

has room for all 5 on bar either way 🤷‍♂️

[gusty abyss]

Just gotta manually cast it every 5s

[harsh nova]

i get majority of my armor shred from AE so i'm just spamming it 😆

cleave whatever

the crit multi idol + shred or void damage so nice

[small veldt]

Question, blind makes you completely crit immne now right?

[harsh nova]

yeah but it's not reliable to be ur only source of crit mitigation

echos are going to stomp you

[small veldt]

Yeah true, would it be worth layering then bli9nd+ crit avoidance

[harsh nova]

especially before you have something like a leonine - or if ur build can't run leonine

[small veldt]

Leonine?

[harsh nova]

leonine base type helmet

gives up to 85% crit mitigation as an implicit

[small veldt]

Ah

[harsh nova]

if u have one u don't need any crit mit anywhere else

woven flesh or whatever the chest from abomination SUPER easy to get in 2lp also

good early option

[small veldt]

Going to properly plan out a spin2win smite paladin this time (yes there are guides) but i enjoy learning by experience kindof

[harsh nova]

his erasing strike build is running seed of ekid so taking blind for bosses could be extremely good - didn't look at his build in depth tho

[small veldt]

I looked at the blinding node in paladin specifically

[harsh nova]

just chance to blind on hit right?

[small veldt]

35% if maxed but yeah

It also gives base endurance

[harsh nova]

is mostly good for like hammers cuz u hit a zillion times - not that it isn't useful elsewhere but i'd be looking for frailty before blind because of the other ways we get crit mitigation. mainly leonine being stupid strong

[small veldt]

Paladin don't get frailty tho in passives

[harsh nova]

yeah i wouldn't worry about blind at all and invest points elsewhere

but depends at what point and what gear u have also

end game build probably drop it entirely

[small veldt]

Also question on righteous firebrand, it triggers off indirect smites right

Since it doesn't specifically have the direct wording on it

[harsh nova]

yeah should be fine as long as the thing ur using to proc it says cast

forget all the wordings 😆

[small veldt]

It's on spell

[small veldt]

And smite has the spell tag

So it should work

[harsh nova]

cast doesn't mean direct cast just not sure what specifically ur using to proc smite

[small veldt]

Warpath

[harsh nova]

yerp

[small veldt]

I was also toying with the idea of double palagus swords

For extra smiting

[harsh nova]

doesn't stack

[small veldt]

Ah

[harsh nova]

reen would be insane but apparently it's bugged

and u don't get the extra crit multi

[small veldt]

Yeah, i had a look at reen

As an option for DW

[harsh nova]

bumblebee actually super strong

easy to get 3lp also

[small veldt]

bumblebee?

[harsh nova]

humming bee sorry

[small veldt]

Really good yeah

Since you want both movement and IAS for warpath

I was thinking ward route even

Let me look the ability up

[waxen nymph]

Wdym?

The chance on hit stacks but the cap doesn't move

[harsh nova]

yeah ur already capping with 1

[small veldt]

Am i?

[harsh nova]

should be at least

10 procs per interval whatever it was

[small veldt]

It's 36-45% something chance to cast

[waxen nymph]

Also the Spell per Str is "doubled"

[harsh nova]

this also a super nice DW weapon

[small veldt]

Yeah, that's the other factor i looked at, pvt

Doubling the spell damage from strenght

[harsh nova]

just run void smite 🪕

-please don't

[small veldt]

Did a void knight, it's ait

Also done weapon forge knight, ait but slow

[harsh nova]

i dislike the way we have to scale smite with str

str is just super low value

[gusty abyss]

Still better then attunement 😄

[harsh nova]

yeah it's just we don't get to double dip on other utility

for instance a sorc builds int and gains 19 different synergies. we build str and get armor

[gusty abyss]

Well, outdated trees, no treshold bonusses

[turbid dome]

? void smite scales with vitality not strength?

[harsh nova]

yeah that's why i said run void smite

but it's just not good even when u do

[turbid dome]

I misread what you said

[small veldt]

So dumb question on smite, with warpath would i need area of healing or would base area be fine?

[turbid dome]

whoops

[gusty abyss]

that node is not related to void smite, also works for fire VK

[turbid dome]

I misread what nacho said about void smite

[harsh nova]

problem also comes to that ur scaling ur physical damage and ur spell damage and do neither good enough unless they manage to both hit the same target

compared to scaling ehp

so i just find it wonky to even get to like 4-500c

[turbid dome]

embrace the pure wizard vk and just get like 200 flat spell dmg from vitality alone

[harsh nova]

🪗

fine we build it this week

probably take like 3 hours to get the gear 😆

what uniques did you end on for it

[turbid dome]

ima use omnividence even if its ass

[harsh nova]

ah yeah that bookend

gonna make me farm staffs teh f

[turbid dome]

but scorn sceptre + crystal skull is what I was trying out for the base crit

especially given it doesn't need a ton of flat from the weapon

[small veldt]

Uhm, Paladin kinda gets a wild skillset

[harsh nova]

of?

for smite it's got the most support i'd say

[small veldt]

Well, it's probably not the strongest, but like healing hands

[harsh nova]

Hh super op

[small veldt]

Yeah, i'm seeing that

[harsh nova]

wouldn't be surprised if it gets rebalanced and effects put elsewhere

[turbid dome]

move the ward stuff to vk, I can be trusted with turning overleech into ward 🙂

[harsh nova]

😆

[small veldt]

Auto-cast on hit and damage scaling off healing effectiveness?

[alpine canopy]

It's bugged btw, you do get the att speed when procced, not sure about the other parts

[harsh nova]

ngl i always felt like i got it?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, you do for sure

the speed is the easy one to see, damage requires testing and I didn't test

[gusty abyss]

That makes it rather good then though

[harsh nova]

yeah

[pale pond]

Is warpath fire trail good?

Doesn’t look like, from my point)

[small veldt]

Humming bee is kinda wild for warpath, i'm getting 1000 ward at level 15ish

That said, no way to retain it but

But 7 ward probably falls off hard past campaign

[harsh nova]

yeah mainly just about the attack speed for free

easy low level option

[small veldt]

Yeah, i got it early

Super nice

Gambled a decent +flat fire 1h as well

And got the unique that adds 30% more elemental damage!

Prism wraps

[harsh nova]

time to farm up these firebrand glove things

[alpine canopy]

No, but that node does come with ignite duration, which is good. Also it looks cool.

[feral island]

So is it still agreed that the best build for smite is hammers and lightning smite?

Also, how much crit is required to get to cap? I'm currently at cap by just taking everything crit on gear too, but don't know how to tell from the character analysis screen. It doesn't say 100% crit

[waxen nymph]

Not really

[waxen nymph]

Pen and Paper to calc your crit (or Excel)

[small veldt]

Fire warpath paladin so far has been the most fun version of spin2win i've ever played, and it's shut your brain off mode

[elder nebula]

Is this node worth taking for a hammerdin build? The guide from maxroll that I am following is suggesting this but I don't understand why

Does attack speed make you throw hammers faster?

[feral island]

Yes it does. Since you are using thrown hammers to proc smite, attack speed for throwing or attack speed is what you want. Cast speed negative or positive does not help or hinder your smite proc

If you're leech, you'll notice a sizeable difference in attack speed allowing you to stand in empire skeleton packs and hammer or if you have to run when your leech isn't fast enough

[elder nebula]

Is faster throw speed more impactful for my build or both contribute the same way? Meaning 10% throw speed is the same as 10% attack speed

[waxen nymph]

Its all "Increased Attack Speed", so they get added together

[harsh nova]

welp

hope it hits

never lucky

[sturdy kettle]

Is there any way that I could play Judgement combo with Smite & Spinner?

i hate that being Spinned in the whole map

[harsh nova]

Dont see why not

Best warparh build i saw didnt constantly channel

And used the increase everything node

[sturdy kettle]

huh????

i don't understand

[harsh nova]

Theres a node that increases based on duration channeled

But u cant infinitely channel

[sturdy kettle]

Ater losing interested in Warlock, now I try to find something new with Paladin

but only found Spin + Smite, or Judgement

no combo all of them

[harsh nova]

Id go lightning smite if running pally and really anything else that looks solid for enabling that

Could run a simple gen and spend build with rive ect

[sturdy kettle]

i mean, i want to play spin smite, but also want to use Judgement too

[harsh nova]

Eh

[sturdy kettle]

but don't know where to start...

[harsh nova]

Ur mana use and regen is scuffed for it is the main thing, technically u can make infinite mana with reversal but u gotta be tick perfect to get it back

[sturdy kettle]

volatile?

damn it hate that skill

[harsh nova]

Warpath builds dont lose mana over time so using judgement is tough cuz ur not really investing into mana to begin with

So without being a pita dunno how u solve mana

[sturdy kettle]

yeah, that sucks

judgement is cool

[small veldt]

Warrior's fury

[sturdy kettle]

Superhero Bonking

[small veldt]

I'm looking at that node

[sturdy kettle]

but only use Judgement is like...

Boring as hell

same with Warpath build

[sturdy kettle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDVM5qEo

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (27) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (62)

General:

▸ Health: 1,623, Regen: 193.54/s
▸ Mana: 188.01, Regen: 15.87/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 14 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 183% / 225% / 143% / 79% / 76% / 145% / 81%
▸ EHP: 5,387 / 5,387 / 5,387 / 8,148 / 5,387 / 5,387 / 5,387

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 77%, Threshold: 366
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,388)
▸ Block Chance: 56%, Mitigation: 41% (1,180)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Holy Aura (21)
• Smite (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Judgement (21)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

This build has a guide:

Sacred Light Warpath Paladin - Leveling Build Guide/Showcase by SpicyKnightBoi

[sturdy kettle]

is this that build?

[waxen nymph]

You could use Vengeance and Judgment

[sturdy kettle]

do ya have any video with that build?

i saw that build but kinda old

[waxen nymph]

There is a build guide from Brewery iirc

[sturdy kettle]

erm...

[waxen nymph]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/consecrated-ground-stacking-paladin

[crude matrix]

Consecrated Ground Stacking Paladin Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class

Sentinel / Paladin

Used skills

• Judgement
• Vengeance
• Holy Aura
• Healing Hands
• Volatile Reversal

Used unique items

• Transcriber's Graver
• Bulwark of the Last Abyss
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Wing Guards
• Heirloom of the Last Nomad
• Soulfire
• Snowblind
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Melee / DoT

Created by TheBrewery · Aug 7, 2024, 12:15 AM

[sturdy kettle]

saw this build already

too many spam

wanna find a build that can use different skills, as the way I play Bladedancer, Runic Invoc & Falcon Shadow

seems hard then...

[harsh nova]

the loot is coming together :pepehands:

no throwing speed but not bad

[digital surge]

im really struggling with killing lvl 100 mono bosses + harbringers as a Bonk VK... 2k HP, max resists and 100% crit dmg reduc and i just friggin die to anything

[harsh nova]

should have nearly 3k hp moving into empowered monoliths

3500-4k by 200c

[digital surge]

no idea how to actually reach this without sacrificing a tonn of mana

im at 800 mana atm

[harsh nova]

bonk knight isn't good until you can get a world splitter

generally is a gen and spend spec until then

[digital surge]

i have world splitter

it feels so bad compared to warlock...

trying to melee down harbringers who continuously deal massive AoE dmg

[harsh nova]

do you have flat melee on ur splitter

[digital surge]

i added 3 points into making ES cost +45 more and am doing much better now. but it took me a while dodging the black sun harbringers abilities just to whittle him down due to how relentless they are with AoE attacks

[harsh nova]

well with JUST a belt you can get like 800 hp

hp on rings

[digital surge]

i have a 2LP shattered chains and an exalt belt with 26% hp and other stuff. havent slammed yet

[feral island]

I find that the lightless arbor boss is the only one that seems to correctly reward melee play

[harsh nova]

i can face tank either harbinger until 700c

just stand there and whack em

you can reach a lot more ehp so it's not so perfect to fight them

[harsh nova]

ends up being pretty chill once u get around that 3500-4k mark

[misty thistle]

Any recommended weapons for Warpath VK at 74, I'm rank 6 with merchants and about 80k to 7

I see Apathys maw, 1 LP available for as low as 250k, maybe hold out until 7? I'm clearing current stuff OK

[small veldt]

Does cleric's wrath from healing hands also work with itself, say i run 3 buff skills, healing hands being one, does it count all three or just two?

Granted

It's not flat damage but multiplir

[misty thistle]

do echo damage when a skill echoes glyphs exist lol..

got a body i want to use with LP titan heart but the echo damage is tier 1

[misty thistle]

Having serious mana issues since i put anomaly on auto cast, it gives so much damage though. How can i fix this?

I've not seen many guides go into much detail about it

Just wiped on the big dragon that creates the circles cause i had to stop spinning and got melted

[turbid dome]

warpath can generate mana if your using a twohander

but really its probably the case of you need to get passive mana regen somehow

[misty thistle]

Yeah, or maybe just more flat mana. Only got 120

That dragon was a bit of a pain, until i realised I could face tank his AOE with rebuke lol. Its so ridicously OP

[misty thistle]

Think this is worth putting into my LP1 Titan heart? I cant find any glyphs to upgrade echo damage and its tier 1 but i got it cheap

3/4 is decent there i guess. even armor isnt useless

[turbid dome]

brother do not say a t1 is good for a slam

but if you hit that T6 increased health it would be juicey

if your are gonna slam that PLEASE craft it up as much as you can first (i see that 7 fp)

[misty thistle]

I cureently have 0 glyphs to upgrade it

[turbid dome]

[misty thistle]

Its quite a nice rolled one too

Could an idea buy a few cheap ones and break them down with skill echo?

[misty thistle]

Just got 2 for 10k gold and 3000 favour lol

[turbid dome]

dang

[misty thistle]

I used all the forging potential on strength though, ruined item lol

[turbid dome]

[cobalt blade]

I see someone mentioned warrior's fury

https://tenor.com/view/trap-its-a-trap-star-wars-admiral-ackbar-gif-5740548

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-until-we-meet-again-goodbye-gif-7594892226715043729

[quasi totem]

Is the Holy Symbol passive in the paladin tree worth messing around with?

[quiet hearth]

So is there some tracker for the event about how we're doing?

[waxen nymph]

Not really

They have posted on social media

We killed like 280 millions of those skeletons

[lucid crag]

well

I softlocked myself with shield dash going down stairs

it is mildly amusing

something about the stairs geometry did not agree with the games stomach

[small veldt]

Fury leap can do the same in certain areas

It is quite funny to be stuck mid animation

[drifting plaza]

Do i have to perma leech hp from enemys with chestplate?

[small veldt]

Ye, you need lots of lerch with it

Or well, i assume healing from attacks also work

[drifting plaza]

Isnt it the same?🙈

But ty 😊

[small veldt]

Direct healing to clarify

Such as healing hands heal, smite heal etc

So, to make my point clearer, i can see two forms of health sustain. Heals triggered via smite, healing hands etc, or leech

[drifting plaza]

So with chest i have to go with this skills ic.

Otherwise dead 😅

[small veldt]

Yeah, since you've no natural form of health regen

So it's a matter of what fits the toolkit of your class

With my primalist it's super dodgy at times because you see life yo-yo hard

From leech

[misty thistle]

Yeah, I run double leech rings right now. And my hp recovery is absolutely wild and perfect

Maybe not ideal to run double rings but the guide I'm following recommended it and it's working nicely so far

I'm not even past all the 90 monoliths yet so we'll see how 100s go

You need to clear the 3 90s right, to access to final one then continue?

[waxen nymph]

1st char or alt?

[small veldt]

So question for paladin, i see two viable ways to do it. Ward or healing, granted ward is more ability specific.

But is ward paladin doable at higher corr

[harsh nova]

Have seen zero ward sentinel builds make it past 200c

[waxen nymph]

You can do a hybrid with vessel

[small veldt]

Ah yeah

[lone ibex]

Playing fire paladin. Trying to figure out my last skill specialisation.
I have spin 2 win, the 3 floating orbs that increase damage, the passive damage increase aura ability, the time rewind

But the last one IDK as everything else to my knowledge stops the spin2win so idk

[waxen nymph]

Smite

[lone ibex]

Why?

I was starting to think healing hands because it can be my movement skill that I lack and can be passively cast

But open to ideas

[small veldt]

Smite is sick with spin2win

I'm doing a spin2win paladin with smite, hh and holy aura

Debating 5th skill atm

[waxen nymph]

For traversal you can use unspecced Lunge
HH proccs only on the first hit of Warpath

[small veldt]

Oh, so if you spin continually it won't proc multiple times

[waxen nymph]

It's "On Use" not "On Hit"
Channeling Warpath is one Use

[lone verge]

Judgement
Sanctified Serenity is 20 flat damage for the consecrated ground right?

[waxen nymph]

Indeed

[lone verge]

Yea that seems pretty good if you plan to have it be your main damage source. 🤔

It's basically a free T5 affix on your weapon

[frigid wren]

hey guys im playing a hammer throw fg build and i was working on my new axe. I figured that t6 increased physical damage would be better than my old t6 crit multi, but my paper damage says otherwise. I already have a lot of crit multi shouldnt raw dmg be better at some point?

[lone ibex]

That's what I have been doing but now I am level 50 I would just be wasting a spec

[lone verge]

Silly question.
By increased phys do you mean flat or %

[lone ibex]

since I am limited by the number of abilities I can equip

[frigid wren]

% i can send my 2 imports from lastepochtools if you want

[lone verge]

Na I was making sure.
Alright so I assume you're a crit build

[frigid wren]

yes

im at around 500% crit mutlti with both weapons

[lone verge]

Here can you share your character? I want to make sure I'm not crazy

[frigid wren]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZwDjp8o
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvOb5lOQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,473, Regen: 33/s
▸ Mana: 100.99, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 59 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 70% / 64% / 74% / 128% / 87% / 73%
▸ EHP: 12,786 / 12,177 / 11,519 / 22,750 / 12,786 / 12,786 / 12,535

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 495
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (335)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,242)
▸ Block Chance: 72%, Mitigation: 56% (2,565)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (24)
• Smite (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)

Used unique items:

• Li'raka's Claws
• Razorfall
• Quicksilver Coil
• Bleeding Heart

Forge Guard, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,473, Regen: 33/s
▸ Mana: 100.99, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 59 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 70% / 64% / 74% / 128% / 87% / 73%
▸ EHP: 12,786 / 12,177 / 11,519 / 22,750 / 12,786 / 12,786 / 12,535

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 495
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (335)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,242)
▸ Block Chance: 72%, Mitigation: 56% (2,565)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (24)
• Smite (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)

Used unique items:

• Li'raka's Claws
• Razorfall
• Quicksilver Coil
• Bleeding Heart

[frigid wren]

same builds just 2 different weapons

[lone verge]

Ugh.
I won't lie to you and tell you I know crit the best but I think it's because your % inc phys is close to your new one that the multiplication from crits isn't able to multiply that number to be higher.

[frigid wren]

im currently working on my amulet to get more flat throw dmg, do you think it might change afterwards?

[lone verge]

If I understand the way to do the math it would come out like this
New weapon: (48x2.76)x5.02=665
Old weapon: (48x2.39)x5.23=599

So from that alone either the tool tip is wrong or I don't know the formula.

But also yea flat is pretty much always good because of how hard it is to get in this game

[waxen nymph]

Smite is imo a great choice
Wether you are doing Spell Warpath or Melee Warpath
For Spell its a lot of Dmg
For Melee it offers a lot of great utility

[lone ibex]

But like how would I use it

since it has a cast animation and it prevents spin

[waxen nymph]

You can get it auto cast from Spin

Or use a Palarus Sword and get it on Hit

It can even be your Traversal

[frigid wren]

if you used 48 because of the base dmg from the weapon, hammer throw doesnt take base damage into account

i only take the axe because of the innate crit chance

[lone verge]

I think either way it would have the same effect.
I also realize I didn't take anything in the tree into account so my numbers would be way off because 5.23 would be the flat purely based on the weapon+base crit chance

[lone ibex]

what upgrade is that?

[frigid wren]

its down left

[lone ibex]

which skill?

its in smite right?

[frigid wren]

warpath

[lone ibex]

ohhh

Oh awesome!

In that case i can keep lunge

and just never manually cast smite

[elder nebula]

Bleed is physical damage, right? So increased physical damage and physical penetration on gear should improve bleed, right?

[waxen nymph]

Correct

[misty thistle]

First

[waxen nymph]

Then yes you need all 3

[misty thistle]

Sorry was busy working. I did one 90 and couldn't seem to progress further

Thought so, thanks

Then I can farm empowered?

[turbid dome]

do all 3 90s and then its empowered time yeah

[autumn knot]

First timing Sentinel, about to go into HCSSF. Paladin, Forge Guard, or Void Knight?

From what I've seen, Paladin seems to be the meta with some weird healing hands-centered build which I haven't researched at all.

Forge Guard seems cool due to shield usage + summoning weapons that fight for you

Void Knight seems fairly offense-focused, probably uses a 2H weapon, gears easily given all the void-related stuff you get from monoliths

[feral island]

If you go hardcore, I suggest paladin with either the hammer build proccing smite because you can use a shield and potentially get 100% crit and block in end game with high endurance. Or that healing hands with ward thing (haven't tried, just YouTube videos).

[harsh nova]

yeah for hardcore you def wanna play bleed hammers

[autumn knot]

ah bleed hammerdin. sounds familiar

[harsh nova]

steelmage has a 1.1 run iirc

super strong build if he has any info on hc i'd def rec it

[autumn knot]

lol the build is basically blade vortex. pretty neat

how come this build only uses 1H Axes?

[harsh nova]

cuz bleed implicit and shield

[turbid dome]

blocking is like the only defensive layer sentinel gets support for beyond armor

[autumn knot]

oic mostly for the bleed

was wondering why not like any other 1H, but that makes sense

[turbid dome]

global bleed chance ❤️

[autumn knot]

kinda nuts

yeah I just started my playthrough on it and was confused considering hammer throw doesn't explicitly state it can only be used with axes for example.. and also my low level axes don't have bleed implicits yet 😛

appreciate y'all ^-^

[turbid dome]

throwing attacks are weird overall, theres very few weapons that actually matter beyond like affixes for increased phyiscal dmg , physical pen, bleed chance, for bleed hammers

[digital surge]

im thinking of swapping out from erasing strike to another VK build.. have a world splitter and bunch of mana. not sure what to do

[autumn knot]

early on for the bleed hammerdin build, do I go for the spiral around myself node asap or is that something I worry about later?

[digital surge]

asap. you wanna keep moving and having the hammers go with you helps clear

[autumn knot]

makes sense

kinda neat that it turns into poe's spectral helix first then into blade vortex lol

[digital surge]

yeah hammer throw is cool

[harsh nova]

not really a lot of other mana outlets for vk

[misty thistle]

dunno what i've done but my damage has been gutted moving from spirits of fire 90 to frost 90.....

Sorry, Age of Winter

I do need an apathys maw, but it wont be that big a difference until i get LP crit chance or something really good on it right?

[turbid dome]

did you pick an echo that gives the mobs a huge defense boost

[misty thistle]

it seems to be in this whole monolith

ill see next one

[turbid dome]

check the mods on the map screen

[misty thistle]

but my regular hits have gone down into the hundreds

from thousands ...

[turbid dome]

some echo modifiers will do that

[misty thistle]

heirot seems awkwardly hard on Warpath

he runs away and the AOE left behind wrecks me

[harsh nova]

should still run mobility skills in warpath

[misty thistle]

aye got him trapped and was easy

Think getting an Apathys maw with 1 LP and trying to get something good on it is a solid choice entering empowered?

[pale pond]

What is better to make smite lightning and grab that 100% crit multiplier from passives or leave fire and use 75% resist penetration, instead of 16% for lightning🤔

[turbid dome]

if you get a 1lp maw and slam melee void dmg on it that is gonna be unethical levels of flat dmg

[misty thistle]

got a regular for 10k someone put one up, damage seems decent. I think 90 mobs are just more resistant to damage @turbid dome ?

But yeah gonna try to get a void damage one too

[alpine canopy]

Yes, high level mobs gain damage resistance based on level

[harsh nova]

can confirm

[desert lodge]

going from normal monos to empowered for the first time was a huge difficulty spike for me. i had to actually try with my build but even after a lot of work my damage with forge strike/rive is low

takes me a full minute to kill some single rare mobs

[quiet hearth]

FINALLY got my new controller, time to grind

[turbid dome]

What kinda controller did ya get

[quiet hearth]

Game sir g7 SE

[tardy mirage]

100 corruption scaling jump will do that to a person

[desert lodge]

it humbled me

[digital surge]

unless you have a shield, melee feels horrible in this game.

[turbid dome]

That or big es world splitter perma bonk

Tho can we really call a screen wide attack melee

[desert lodge]

i was going to do a dual wield bleed rogue as my next build

[digital surge]

still feels bad compared to a caster / ranged class or melee with shield. So much Boss AoE and anti melee mechanics in the game. Warlock was 1000 x easier than this. 2k hp with max resists and 45% armor reduc and its a 1-2 shot in most cases at base lvl empowered monos on bosses

having to have near perfect gear BEFORE climbing through monos is not the answer either

[quiet hearth]

I want to like rogue, but it just feels so eh to play to me

[tacit zealot]

mad alchs, cinder song or firestarters torch for a judgement aura only build? unless something else ive not mentioned would be better (going 1h only)

[junior wren]

literally any high spelldmg wand

[elder nebula]

When you activate holy aura does it double only the implicit stat bonuses or does it affect all bonuses you receive from its tree?

[tacit zealot]

all iirc

[cerulean gazelle]

what is the best void knight build for high corruption and whats for speedfarming?

[weary wren]

1-2 shotting bosses is just playing unbalanced builds so now u are actually playing the game

[turbid dome]

Switching from a powerful ranged mastery to a weak melee mastery be like that

[waxen nymph]

All

[cobalt blade]

why Eternity Cache gotta succeed in the inferior ring 🥲

[turbid dome]

cause finds it funny and punishes up for abusing time magic so much

[cobalt blade]

and then drop a better 3LP after you successfully slam

such is life...

[turbid dome]

hope you like temporal sanctum

[cobalt blade]

is this a highly-demanded affix?

[turbid dome]

Uhhh

It saves points on time and faith but also makes you need to hit something

So imo not really, unless your triggering so much stuff off of rive you need more than the mana from time and faith

Sadly a lot of sentinel affixes end up kinda mid

Like the convert incoming dmg to phys is awesome until you realize you have 4 very valuable slots for that

That compete with skill level affixes and just higher rolls on generic/good affixes

And also that you can’t really get convert a portion of everything to phys so why use a valuable affix slot on something that only occurs some of the time

[cobalt blade]

affix priority gaming

[turbid dome]

Like it’s a strong effect, but only converting a small portion of the dmg fails hard

Unlike in poe where armor is worse against big physical hits so converting even a portion of phys to something else helps a lot

[alpine canopy]

It used to be a more valuable effect before they changed how armor works, iirc armor didn't affect non-phys at all.

or it was much lower effect, idk

[turbid dome]

@cobalt blade for context if you want max dr against a phys hit in poe, you need 45 times the armor as the damage of the hit, or use something that gives direct physica damage reduction

so for a 1k dmg phys hit we need 45k armor

if we convert 30% of that to fire we take 700 phys dmg so we need 31500 armor ( a lot easier to get)

Whereas in last epoch if we convert 30% of a fire hit to physical, our armor is affects it at better effectiveness (70% effectiveness to 100% effectiveness)... but this only applies to that 30%. So is it worth spending a competitive affix slot on making 30% of a single dmg type go from 54% armor DR to 77% armor dr? (assuming about 10k armor)

I wish it was more like raise your armor effectiveness against all dmg

[alpine canopy]

One other use case I thought wasn't too bad, is for poison damage taken as phys. Mainly because I rarely bother capping poison res, so then it gets the benefit of being affected by the max res of phys and also can't be shredded by poison itself. (Also, it gets the slight armor effect bonus based on % of armor applied to DOT)

[waxen nymph]

I need help, should I keep playing my Ignite Forge Guard or start my VK SpellCaster ?

[alpine canopy]

How far are you on ignite FG?

[turbid dome]

true, vs poison stacks is probably the best use case for it rn

[waxen nymph]

Just reach Empowered

[alpine canopy]

hmm sounds like a good time to start a new VK

[waxen nymph]

[alpine canopy]

Altoholics Anonymous

[turbid dome]

did someone say wizard vk

[gusty abyss]

So I was like, caster VK with voidwinter, lets go. Turns out, the spell must literally have both cold and void tag in order to get the spell damage from melee damage

[waxen nymph]

I might have

[waxen nymph]

No
Sound like a bug

[alpine canopy]

It is only supposed to need one

The only spell that has both tags is the one it procs itself

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, voidwinter bolts shutgun and pierce though. I am pretty sure it would be broken if it did work on just void

[alpine canopy]

It would not be broken, it's kinda just like wielding a staff