🔱┃sentinel

[waxen nymph]

...

[turbid dome]

...

also I got a cronicle of the damned

D: is minimus dead

[waxen nymph]

Pretty sure Mike said we could encounter the Special Skeletons during the campaigb

Havent found any yet

[turbid dome]

oh god you can get multiple loot lizards at once

[waxen nymph]

Oo

[weary wren]

Lunge- immobilize 👍

[digital surge]

fastest way to lvl sentinel?

[waxen nymph]

RoA Oo

[turbid dome]

Good luck

[turbid dome]

Hammer throw is solid, warpath is solid, rive is rive it’s solid

[gusty abyss]

just luck into double palarus in 5 runes of ascendus, then get sun seal on the next rune

[simple olive]

Is anyone else going Void Knight Warpath and noticing the echo's aren't doing anything does anyone know if this is just a visual bug or is there something else going on?

[turbid dome]

Damn

[turbid dome]

Give the passive trees are visually messed up, it wouldn’t surprise me if other things were visually messed up

[quiet hearth]

Need a Rive sticker or something

[quiet hearth]

im blind

[turbid dome]

I took a screen shot of the rive icon on last epoch tools and sent that

[quiet hearth]

oh good

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

[harsh nova]

[digital surge]

Hammer throw feels legit to at least lvl up esrly with

Just hammers spinning around me

[alpine canopy]

I agree, sounds like dipper bird rule

Paladin gang to take holy vengeance upon the undead heathens

[waxen nymph]

FG

[alpine canopy]

[waxen nymph]

Rn doing Hammer but when I got to 5 pts inside FG I unlocked Shield Throw

And it hit me

ST Smite Ignite

Because Hammer Spining is too meta

[digital surge]

Im going Void knight. Acreen wide attacks feel way too good. And dream thorn 2h sword is WAY too powerful a wep to get to endgame with

[waxen nymph]

Look at this bad boy

All the bleed chance I need

[turbid dome]

gimmie a thing that makes bleed damage be void

[lunar hazel]

Devs hear you asking for more bleed chance into time rot chance nodes.

[turbid dome]

at least let me uncap timerot

[lunar hazel]

Yeah. Frostbite and Poison have their extra effects capped but stacking uncapped, just saying...

[waxen nymph]

Some passive really got messed up

[turbid dome]

-3% is amazing

BIS

[wise mulch]

weapon master text is missing im guessing lmfao

[solemn harbor]

So I'm obviously super out of the loop because I haven't played in a few months. Why are people hyping up Rive HH Paladin as the new "super overpowered endgame build" when it's literally been overpowered since it came out with 1.0?

[wise mulch]

Makes sense

I remember it having a 5 point bonus

I was wondering why it was gone but I guess it's not

[waxen nymph]

Havent seen anyone talking about it
And it got nerfed, so now its only a good build not op

[solemn harbor]

I guess it's just content creators trying to hype it up. And I didn't read any of the patch notes, so I haven't paid attention to changes.

Surprisingly, I'm not even playing a Paladin this Cycle like normal, I'm playing Bleed Marksman for Ol'Times Sake.

[waxen nymph]

No balances changes for the reset

[turbid dome]

join the void wizard money gang

[solemn harbor]

I don't think I've played Wizard in like a year or so, chain lightning was funny.

[waxen nymph]

The change to "A study in Time" is so nice

[turbid dome]

they did?

I stopped cause of a meeting right when I got to the council chamber

[waxen nymph]

Itsvery smooth now

[turbid dome]

yay

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's so much nicer

Now I just want it to spawn enemies on the return path in the ruined era like they did in the temple so you don't just have to make a walk of shame back to the time rift 😂

[slender raptor]

Playing a Warpath VK and I've got a 3 LP bleeding heart, what would be an ideal slam for that ? Void pen / life / void damage ?

[turbid dome]

Already what

[wise mulch]

Bro I physically leaned back in my chair and said "oh my God thank you"

Like that quest was one thing I was dreading for playing again because it was so tedious

[turbid dome]

is that the great college of Welryn quest

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[turbid dome]

swag

the loot lizards are fun

[proven dew]

I suggest damage while channeling + crit multiple+ health

[proven dew]

Yeah love it for the movement speed :))

[fast galleon]

hi im looking for a good hammer type build any1 know any good ones???

[turbid dome]

smite hammer throw?

[fast galleon]

is there a build on 1?

[turbid dome]

yeah look at the harby patch on le tools builds page

[fast galleon]

alright found one i think is there any that are good for lvling?

[turbid dome]

hammer throw by itself is a solid leveling build

smite hammer throw needs an idol to proc smite on a throwing attack hi

[alpine canopy]

I gotta be dumping mats multiple times per echo now 😂

also dungeon shrine is epic

[turbid dome]

dungeon shrine?

does it drop a dungeon key

[alpine canopy]

no, it only appears in dungeons and all it does is open a portal to one of the floor exits

I just ran sanctum for the campaign skip and hit a shrine like this early on both floors and the dungeon was over just like that lol

[turbid dome]

lol

am I suppose to be getting like 3 loot lizards a zone

[alpine canopy]

I think they might spawn a liiittle too often, but I'm okay with it for now 😂

[turbid dome]

mmmm loot

until the game gets more content to throw in each zone loot lizards everywhere is great

also the emote usage is funny af

[digital surge]

Ok im torn. All in on shield/ hammer throw or VK big dam 3h action???

[copper walrus]

what you guys like to start with after a wipe?

class-wise

[cobalt blade]

The warpath adjustment doesnt feel much difference

[turbid dome]

warpath for leveling cause I get my main skill at 60 points invested into my tree (:

what happened with my gambler

[quiet hearth]

[glossy kernel]

is void warpath still good?

[turbid dome]

it fixes it self if I switch pages

the gamba lives!

[turbid dome]

yes

[quiet hearth]

that's what I should play, dont need equipment just spin into the void and win

[glossy kernel]

Are there any sites that I can look for builds?

[copper walrus]

don't do that

ruins most of the fun

[quiet hearth]

yes, maxroll, LEtools has a spot. You dont need a guide but that is where I would go. Have fun.

[glossy kernel]

I dont want to get stucked because of my own improvised build

[copper walrus]

you can't get stuck. You can always change things up

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, you can do pretty much anything here, but dont feel bad about following a guide either. Do what you're gonna enjoy the most. Nothing wrong with using something to point you in a direction.

[alpine canopy]

Only thing you can't change is your class/mastery choice (well, at least without starting a new character).

[cobalt blade]

Spin into Engi

[keen prawn]

it's good?

[turbid dome]

thats a max roll on a build enabling affix, yeah thats good

[turbid dome]

spin into me and I'm use time magic on ya

[copper walrus]

Or you can cast smite this way. This just dropped for me

[quiet hearth]

what if someone time magics your time magic though?

[cobalt blade]

Grandpa paradox your grandpa paradox?

[turbid dome]

Good thing I got back up time magic

[quiet hearth]

I can back up my back up

[quiet hearth]

DW thos is hilarious on global hit werebear

[copper walrus]

funny you say that because the first time i used it was last cycle and it was with exactly that

[quiet hearth]

I wanted to combine it with rampage werebear for the double str to spells, but rampage is just so buggy

[copper walrus]

yeah with infinite rampage is nasty

[quiet hearth]

especially once you get them with some crit multi from nemmy

Im really looking forward to the sent rework, curious to see how they will bring their trees up to par with the new masteries, that and give lich it's final skill back

[turbid dome]

oh yeah the passive tree text is fixed now theres a hotfix update if you haven't gotten it already

[quiet hearth]

[turbid dome]

more wizard vk

[copper walrus]

smite still heals cast that way, right?

[quiet hearth]

ye

[copper walrus]

lichs final skill?

[turbid dome]

soul feast used to be a lich skill

[copper walrus]

aaah

[turbid dome]

it being a warlock skill now completely broke a funny lich build I had in the past

but it also makes sense for a skill that cares about curses to be in the cursing stuff mastery

vk gang vk gang

[alpine canopy]

Nemesis not my friend today

[dry basalt]

Vitality scales spell void dmg in es? Is this bug?

[turbid dome]

why would that be a bug

when erasing strike kills something they turn into a void rift. the void rift is a spell

[dry basalt]

Huh good to know cheers, is it still good to scale with vit in es build tho

Like t7 on chest

[turbid dome]

yeah

plus every 3 vit gives 1% more melee void dmg

[copper walrus]

its says on its tooltip its scales with vit

[turbid dome]

hold alt on it

[dry basalt]

Yea i thought it must be void melee not spells

[turbid dome]

unless you have something weird, the vitality scaling only affects the spell half of it

idk if spell dmg applies to melee is even a stat in this game

[alpine canopy]

Can't think of any, but there are several examples of the reverse lol

[turbid dome]

true

[quiet hearth]

actually, that is what I should play, I havent played screen strike in a long time

[turbid dome]

anything special if a loot lizard is named pig

[rigid urchin]

The Smite sword is feeling nice

[limpid wagon]

does this less damage taken stat just not show on the character sheet?

[supple iris]

Any advice on what to burn ascendence on as VC ES?

[dry basalt]

Yea because it from nearby enemies, it shows on letools tho.

[slender raptor]

Do the abyssal echoes cast from abyssal tempest use the abyssal echo tree ?

[digital surge]

Theirs a new smite sword??

[digital surge]

Any abysal echoes used from any ability proc WILL use the abysal echoes tree

[slender raptor]

Good to know, thank you!

[rigid urchin]

Palarus Sacred Light lvl 6

[supple iris]

I don't even know what non-boss drop uniques are useful for VK, besides darkstriders...

[waxen nymph]

Dreamthorn is pretty good for a Melee lvling

[supple iris]

I'm to the point where a decent exalted is better than DT though

[storm condor]

anyone can share a good paladin build for hardcore please?

1.1.7

[supple iris]

I hear bleed hammers is pretty tanky

[storm condor]

ill check that now

im I allowed to post maxroll build here for suggestion?

[waxen nymph]

Sure

[storm condor]

thank you ❤️

[storm condor]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-hammerdin-paladin-guide thats the one you talking about, right?

Bleed Hammerdin Paladin

or not sure?

[supple iris]

Not sure how many variations there are on it, I haven't played it, just heard someone else mention that the build is very durable.

[storm condor]

Im trying to find 1.1.7 but theres noone.

I guess im gonna try do it myself, it gonna take sometime but better to be safe.

[supple iris]

1.1 stuff is all fine. Even a lot of 1.0 stuff will still work.

[storm condor]

HC can be though

oki thanks

[waxen nymph]

There hasn't been any balance changed between 1.1 and 1.1.7

[rancid lantern]

Warpath bug fix enters the chat

lmao

[waxen nymph]

Hey, what are you starting with in the end ?

[rancid lantern]

Oh what I sent you, the void smite+ echoes, timewave anomaly VK

think theres an early unique i could use before a solid exalt?

guess not

Ig i could use a shadow beacon for a bit

or an omnividence

[waxen nymph]

What lvl are you ?

Dreamthorn has generic Void Pen

[rancid lantern]

oh im just levelling

like 27? am at work, so im taking it easy

[foggy heron]

what do you think of devouring orb and abyssal echoes ? it feels like abyssal echoes dmg are very low 🤔 and devouring orb Eruption seems to have very low dmg

I'm trying to make a spell caster voidkinght with voidbeam and stuff

[rancid lantern]

ill tell you about echoes in a bit

void beam, orb and echoes

are 3 different directions

to build

choose one and build around it

[foggy heron]

lol I was gonna do all three 😅

slapping in as many as I could

[rancid lantern]

you wont be able to, mana expenditure wont let you

[foggy heron]

yeah I saw erasing strike's abyssal echoes costing 60 mana

[waxen nymph]

Look at that lvling beauty

[foggy heron]

and I was like how I am gonna handle it

[rancid lantern]

oh snap

yeah most just do reversal but that works once

and spending gear for mana is just bleh

i do void smite for mana recovery for echoes

orb is most sustainable without anything

[foggy heron]

can't I do erasing strike and when it's not on cd I cast devouring orb

both have cooldown

[rancid lantern]

good erasing would need a lot more mana so you could use it with void cleave and void essences for mana

erasing gonan cost you like what

100+ mana at least

if youre building around it

[foggy heron]

this part of devourings orbs seems so solid

[rancid lantern]

ye

[foggy heron]

ouchh

I love the beams with erasing strike

[rancid lantern]

yeah its fun now

[foggy heron]

and quite like devouring orb

[rancid lantern]

try void smite for mana recovery into erasing with repeats + beams

[foggy heron]

abyssal echoes I don't care at all, poop damage for now in campaign

[rancid lantern]

actually

hmm

no, not void smite.

wahts a good mana gain for void dot...

[foggy heron]

do I have to use smite ? I played paladin before so I REALLY don't want to

[rancid lantern]

okay

well you can use some attack i guess

or reversal

or just invest into mana

regen

[foggy heron]

this gives 10% mana regen

it's huge

[rancid lantern]

its something

[foggy heron]

I have a lvl 50 voidknight before reset

the mana it gave was really good and I really felt it

[rancid lantern]

before corrupted timelines hardly anything matters so just experiment 😉

[foggy heron]

👍

I saw there is mana efficiency of void skill

on idols

or something

or gear

idk

anyway, thanks

you convinced me to narrow it down a little

instead of trying to fit everything

@rancid lanternerasing strike voidbeam should be some half melee half caster dmg

interesting 🤔

[waxen nymph]

Engi !! Void Squirrels for you Sir

[foggy heron]

😮 how do you get these

[waxen nymph]

One of the new Shrines

[cobalt blade]

Dem Engi squirrels

[foggy heron]

oh nice

they are really cool, the shrines

[cobalt blade]

Aberroth's command have both flat dmg and can use void cleave

[foggy heron]

i thgought of using one of those

Shadow beacon

and omnividence

[cobalt blade]

Oooo

Gotta traverse using HH or lunge i guess

[foggy heron]

I need to find a way

to fix mana issue

this unique looks so good for me

I kill with erasing strike so I can proc voidbeam

I just enough dmg for trashs with earing strike to proc voidbeam when I'm clearing

[cobalt blade]

So if you focus on ES voidbeam, you cant play the now popular mana stacking ES?

I never touched those, so I dont knoe

[foggy heron]

no idea about the meta

[foggy heron]

mana stacking es ? 🤔

[cobalt blade]

Cuz the mana stacking ES, you have to increase mana cost and not reduce

[foggy heron]

like the sorcerer ?

[cobalt blade]

Yes

[foggy heron]

really wnat to focus on voidbeam

so don't think it works for me

[cobalt blade]

I am playing mana stacking warpath tho

Not a popular one

[foggy heron]

wtf is eneabling mana stacking sentiel

[cobalt blade]

Warrior's Fury Warpath variant

But void well doesnt work on it

So i just get mana and mana regen from gear

[foggy heron]

all I have is this

[cobalt blade]

Void knight tree have abit of mana too

[foggy heron]

yes!

[cobalt blade]

Oh i mean the vk tree passives

[cobalt blade]

Yea that.. not much

Actually i dont remember if i have enough points for it

Been a long long time since i look at my passives

[foggy heron]

shield rush costing me 80 mana

what evilness is this

xD

[ebon wedge]

Hi guys I decided on doing world splitter erasing strike for the reset, how should I lv before it?

[waxen nymph]

Erasing Strike + Void Cleave, Warpath or Rive

[quiet hearth]

or for truly no equipment, hammer throw. Once you get those reduced cost nodes it's free and you can respec out of them a bit once you get your rings

[lunar hazel]

holy trail with spear also gets to empowered easily with crap gear. It was hilariously bad at lizards until I took the immobilize for Lunge. 😁

[supple iris]

Is patient doom worth taking for VS ES? Or no?

[turbid dome]

Not really as you can spend those points on getting flat void melee dmg on tree

[supple iris]

I have all those already tho

[turbid dome]

Abyssal endurance, flat melee dmg, doom knight, eternal form is my normal go to for the first half of the tree

[supple iris]

Do you have a planner? The one I was following leaves a bunch of points unincluded, and also goes deeper into Paladin than seems worth the points...

Because he wanted sigils and I don't plan to use them

[turbid dome]

Despair Sigils is very strong for vk especially with the sigils ring

What build are you doing?

[waxen nymph]

Engi ! Did you see the Void Squirrels ?

[turbid dome]

WHAT

this game always updates when I’m busy af

[supple iris]

I'm doing ES +VC +(currentlyRive, until I get the gear to drop it)

[waxen nymph]

#🔱┃sentinel message

[supple iris]

But am only loosely following a build and am kind of also just putting stuff where it seems to make sense

Also currently using reversal + healing hands

[turbid dome]

Send what your current passive tree is

[supple iris]

Is there an easy way to do import it or do I have to put points into the planner?

[turbid dome]

LE tools has an import button

[supple iris]

K one moment oon this mono haha

Hmmm, says it can't find the character.

[waxen nymph]

What you Account name ?

[supple iris]

Arvandor2

Unless it's like discord with some extra numbers hidden somewhere

[turbid dome]

Are you putting them in the correct box

[supple iris]

Yes

[turbid dome]

are you playing in online

[supple iris]

Yes

[waxen nymph]

I cant even see your profile

Open the Social Tab

[turbid dome]

Last sanity check, are you sure that’s your account name. Hit H for the homies

[waxen nymph]

What the name up there

[supple iris]

It says Arvandor2

[waxen nymph]

Did you call your VK Arvandor11 ?

[supple iris]

Yes

[waxen nymph]

So your Account name is Arvandor, without the 2 🤷

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Arvandor/character/Arvandor11

[turbid dome]

Vlad just sniped Arvandor’s build

Lol

[supple iris]

... it is? Why does it show as Arvandor2 on everything in my Steam stuff then? That's weird

[turbid dome]

Your account name doesn’t have to be your steam name

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[turbid dome]

It also might not like numbers idk

[waxen nymph]

No

[turbid dome]

Dump dread and put those points into maxing out your echo chance and void ageis

Dread is ok but since all your stuff echos you want that maxed

And void ageis is 10% dr, it’s amazing

[waxen nymph]

Funny , I never considered it good

[turbid dome]

A single point and it’s active all echo

[waxen nymph]

Breaks after 100 Dmg

[turbid dome]

Yes

To my knowledge the 10% dr applies to the entire hit, not just the damage that the ageis takes

[supple iris]

Dump dread?! But... movespeed... ;P

[turbid dome]

You have darkstrides on

Get a weapon with flat melee void dmg

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, but I breaks all the time and with only 5% to get it ... meh

[turbid dome]

Like an apathy’s maw

[supple iris]

Yeah, I'm working on the weapon. Or leveling up until I can use worldsplitter.

[turbid dome]

5% when hit, given the amount of tiny hits you take from the swarms of enemies you charge into it stays up all the time

[supple iris]

Also, if you ES first THEN VC, the auto crit will work ont he echo yeah?

I am so sick of those trees that spam the overtuned avalanche

[turbid dome]

The auto crit never works on the echos

The echos just use your crit chance

[waxen nymph]

I believe Arvandor to be correct

Since your echoes are you, you can use VC to give yourself/them the auto crit

Pretty sure if VC echoes too it can gives another autocrit

[turbid dome]

Oh I misread what they sent

I assumed they were saying VC into ES

[supple iris]

What I mean is that obviously VC then ES will auto crit the ES, but if you ES VC then the ES echo will get the auto crit instead of the initial cast.

[turbid dome]

It should

[supple iris]

It sure seems to. Makes me also wonder if it's better to use the increase melee dmg for 4 sec after echo or the increased echo dmg sigil...

Or just stick with defensive ones haha

[turbid dome]

Not die is pretty good

[supple iris]

Is there a way to go straight to MG page insted of the stupid FK page every time I press Y

[cobalt blade]

ouch... little low on the flat void

[harsh nova]

more upset about 0.4%

nice find tho

[cobalt blade]

doest matter to me since i am not doing ES

but the flat void

[harsh nova]

is good in other builds too

[quiet hearth]

man, I might not be playing until my controller gets here, forgot how bad my tendonitis is

[harsh nova]

you can disregard the flat melee and just slam any damage type for a different build if u don't have a unique yet

since it has +130 universal melee in implicit

[supple iris]

I need to see how playing this feels ona controller... Probably bad since I won't be able to aim my VC the way I like

[harsh nova]

VC just goes max distance

otherwise it plays pretty good

[supple iris]

That would 1000% kill me on bosses

[harsh nova]

not really

there's very few instances where going farther actually kills u

[supple iris]

Uhhh... Julra lasers?

Necro dragon field?

Heorot field?

[harsh nova]

dragon has plenty of distance up and around him for the field, herot zone is bigger than max distance cleave by a large margin and julra you don't have to cleave you can roll, but you can also cleave just fine if u stand towards one side

you can also reduce ur distance to what feels good lol

[quiet hearth]

That is not a field, that is a whole demiplane, that thing is too big.

[harsh nova]

there's a zone equally as large as his field on the north side

that literally nobody ever runs to

it's like alaska

[supple iris]

Hmmm... Which to use:

[harsh nova]

whats ur res look like

[harsh nova]

i'd lean towards the exalt then

[quiet hearth]

There really isnt, and that doesnt change the fact that you also need a lot of mobility. Evade just isnt enough distance.

[supple iris]

What should I use ascendence on?

[harsh nova]

okay then having a long cleave is good 😆

and isn't an issue for dragon

[harsh nova]

dreams and whims

the chances for lp from ascendence is so bad it's basically pointless

[supple iris]

May as well use 'em on SOMETHING though, I just dunno what... Bows to sell to the rogues? haha

I'd just sell the runes directly if I could

[turbid dome]

Ascend stuff them cram them into nemisus

[supple iris]

Omg, why does Heorots freaking ice orb insta-kill me... that's so cheesey. My defenses aren't THAT bad

[quiet hearth]

he nemi sus

[supple iris]

And if I dodge that, his aura will 100% kill me every time. Even when I VC to try and keep up and potion I end up too faar out and die before I can dodge in... Never had this issue with any other chars I've played in 1.1, wtf

[turbid dome]

Isn’t that a dot

[dry basalt]

Recently farm his blessing too, best i can do is running around him

Tho i warpathing so i must running around

[supple iris]

I have to get him to face me in a corner and tank everything. Which I can do, I just have to remember not to summon the harbinger.

[quiet hearth]

I think it's just a bunch of hits and a dot

[supple iris]

Omg this is driving me insane

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, that's like the one dangerous skill he uses other than the constant storm zone thing

if you dps him down well enough he usually doesn't cast it though

[supple iris]

The constant storm zone is what keeps getting me. If I can't keep him positioned right (which I can't seem to do) it's 100% guaranteed death.

[alpine canopy]

You just gotta be on your toes for when he does the dash, it's telegraphed. Also again dps-ing him down prevents him from doing (many) dashes

[supple iris]

My dps clearly isn't that good, and I can't tell his dash from his other attacks. They all look the same to me

Which is a skill issue I realize

[alpine canopy]

It takes some time to recognize the wind-up, but I am pretty sure it's the only thing that makes him randomly look in a direction other than directly at you

[turbid dome]

Fair

[turbid oak]

i've got a question for someone that can math good, is healing hands ward scaling working wrong or am i a smooth brained ape

[quiet hearth]

I think it's broken right now

in the bad way

[turbid oak]

yeah i feel like it's wrong because unless i just cannot do basic math, i should be getting around 230 ward per cast but i'm only getting like 60

[supple iris]

!#^$$@^%@$&%@$!#$% I uncheck harbinger spawn and it STILL spawns, frekain' hell I'll never get any blessings at this rate.

I also don't think it's possible to dps him fast enough as VC ES. The flinches fast track him to the aura. He casts it like less than 30s into the fight

[west dock]

yes you cant uncheck 1st harb

[supple iris]

Ok, so I'm just screwed, gg. Maybe I'll just play legacy

As usual I'm too spoiled by meta and the Vk hardmode just makes me mald

On try with titan heart and see if that solves the problem

[turbid dome]

Is this empowered?

[supple iris]

Yes

[dry basalt]

Still salty earlier i slam 2pcs 2lp titan heart and whiffed, bad thing is both had the warlock affix slammed

[turbid dome]

You may need to go and just farm up some better gear Arv

As long as you can clear echos at a good rate it shouldn’t be that bad

[supple iris]

I actually have some really good gear waiting for next level or two. So right now I'm just grinding xp ;P

[turbid dome]

lol

[turbid dome]

🫂

[supple iris]

What the heck, that's like the 4th time this has happened this season, where all my movement gets completely locked up and I can't do anythiing. It's not a stun,k it's for like a full 2+ seconds

[tranquil pagoda]

It seems like I get out of sync sometimes, usually when either using Lunge or Void Cleave. Then nothing to do but exit game and come back in

Maybe that?

[turbid dome]

I sometimes get stuck when using a movement skill, usung it again fixes it for me

[supple iris]

Finally... But of course I didn't get armor T_T

[quiet hearth]

man I forget about blessings so often

[turbid dome]

I love the new-er blessing respec thing

you just gotta get the blessings first ;-;

[supple iris]

What are all the +mana sources? i feel like I'm going to need them ALL at T7 to have enough... Maybe even need to slam it onto a weapon.

[turbid dome]

for generic mana affixes

keep in mind different slots get different scaling for it

[supple iris]

I know, body and weapon get a ton

[turbid dome]

yeah

[supple iris]

Could you imagine an LP3 world splitter with mana, crit multi, and flat void ;P Man that'd be the dream

[turbid dome]

Manafused is a prefix I think

[supple iris]

Oh I think you're right

Isn't there a hybrid mana on a slot somewhere?

[turbid dome]

theres manaforged for weapons mana + mana regen

I don't think theres a flat mana and %mana affix

[quiet hearth]

nope

If there was you know it would be something silly like 10 mana and 10% increased

[turbid dome]

fair

is there not even a unique with both

also I wish I could put vitality onto more than just helmts/boots/body armor/idols

[supple iris]

ES + VC needs too many prefixes T_T

[turbid dome]

(:

vitality 👍

[compact trout]

It feels weird to me that i can put int on my ring but not vit, i think every item should be able to roll every stat

[supple iris]

Can't body get %mana AND flat mana? Separately?

[turbid dome]

every item shouldn't be able to get every stat, I wish I could put vitality onto more things because its a defensive affix in a prefix slot, on top of being extremely strong

[turbid dome]

yea

[supple iris]

Hmm, i must just have none of the % shards

[compact trout]

Same with helmets for rouge and sentinel

[compact trout]

Dunno, rn it's very strange how, for example, you can get int on every piece of gear except amulet, belt and off-hand (but we have off-hand base with 16 int soo...), same for dex BUT it has 70% reroll chance for some reason so it's WAY less common than int, and vit is only on body, boots and helmet

I feel like stats should be equal

[turbid dome]

vit makes sense to be in a contested slot tho, its defensive in a prefix and fights for slots against class specific affixes

plus vitality gives a lot more than any other stat

ignoring all the special scaling, 20 vitality on your body armor is 120 flat health, 40% resistances and you can have two other health rolls on it

[compact trout]

It gives a lot to Void Knight true, but not so much for other classes

[compact trout]

But you trading damage for vitality because it's a prefix

[turbid dome]

yes

thats why it can't be in weaker/less vital hehe gear slots

[supple iris]

Is %mana a suffix or prefix on armor?

[compact trout]

Yep

Preffix

Sorry

[turbid dome]

a prefix for helmet + body armor

[supple iris]

Oh, definitely a prefix... wtf, how come I can't put it on this piece?

[turbid dome]

there is a bug for slamming that onto uniques, cause its a rouge/sentinel affix but the resulting unique can be used by anyone the devs have said their going to fix this

[supple iris]

Ohhhh

[compact trout]

Maybe you are right, guess vitality on relic wouldn't brake the game then

[turbid dome]

plus it could scale differently/give less vitality

would having helmet/boot scaling on a relic break the game, no it would probably be ok, but it would be a top tier affix to put there for almost any build

getting about 100 life and 30% ish resistance is a lot for one prefix slot (which is equal to about a t5 flat life affix and 2 T2 resistance affixes for a helmet/boots)

[supple iris]

These lizards sure fill up my inventory with crafting mats in a hurry

[turbid dome]

I love smacking the transfer materials button with a full backpack

[supple iris]

Iw ish the harbinger fights didn't take 8 trillion years...

[quiet hearth]

I dont, there is zero reason we should have to press it to begin with

[maiden merlin]

is unbroken prayer on healing hands bugged? if you don't allocate the sky beam node it just doesn't function at all

you channel but nothing happens, no healing, no damage if you take that node either, no visual, nothing.

[quiet hearth]

where's the guy who helped plan the super crab with me that one day?

[turbid dome]

I'm assuming that wasn't me from when we were brainstorming about the crab when it was revealed

[quiet hearth]

I know someone joined in, and while the hp wasnt great the dmg stats were funny

[turbid dome]

🦀I summon the crab brainstormer🦀

[quiet hearth]

I remember them mentioning dread shade since you could almost make the crab unkillable

[turbid dome]

[spark monolith]

Use VC to increase crab base damage, all stat items, heal crab with potions, and give it minion damage reflect

could use warpath and get block, and smite for additional healing

[waxen nymph]

Oof, my dmg feels really low now
The first mono was long
But this is the 1st time I am deathless after abom

[turbid dome]

[alpine canopy]

Unkillable? Doesn't it not have any health scaling from attributes and take double damage?

[quiet hearth]

It gets pretty tanky and you just press space to resummon it with zero consequences

[alpine canopy]

Heh, I keep dying from "unearthed spires" from those big casket dudes. I still have no idea what that attack actually is

[waxen nymph]

FG do be very tanky

[quiet hearth]

they be reasonably tanky

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, you can resummon easy, but tanky is not a word I would use to describe the crab

[quiet hearth]

It has more base HP than the bear, which is funny, it's reasonably tanky especially with minion boosts.

I just wish it did more than just slap people

[turbid dome]

ima wizard

[alpine canopy]

Have you tried this build at all? Because the crab does take double damage, it makes it really hard to keep alive

[supple iris]

How much mana does VC + ES need to spec out of Rive?

1k?

[quiet hearth]

I tinkered but I was bored by the end of the cycle.

[turbid dome]

holy I just got a 1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 5 lizard split gang and got them all

I love the lizards

[supple iris]

What's the best single slam on weapon for VC + ES... Mana, crit multi, or flat void?

[quiet hearth]

Depends on the weapon really

[turbid dome]

and the rest of your gear

[alpine canopy]

and the phase of the moon

[turbid dome]

and what time you fed your grole this morning

[harsh nova]

🫣

never had a build that flat wasn't the best stat by far yet

hit builds that is

[turbid dome]

that too

theres a reason I love getting an effective T28 flat void for rive

[quiet hearth]

t28 xD, should be the name of the build the T28, and its a terminator with the blushing Orobyss head

[turbid dome]

apathy's maw gaming

[quiet hearth]

That thing needs a rework so bad, it's too good

[turbid dome]

never!

Alric, I'll make sure your sacrifice is not in vain

ARPG player characters are never good at keeping their friends alive

[quiet hearth]

Oddworld Abe, literally the only way to get the good ending

[turbid dome]

✅

[compact trout]

Boys why do i cast timebuble on myself with evade while on low life

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

[compact trout]

Yeah i don't get it, each time i evade on low life i get timebuble

What causes it

[turbid dome]

do you have time bubble from anomaly specced?

[quiet hearth]

has anyone ever tried bleed pally?

[compact trout]

Yes sir

[turbid dome]

🤔

do you have anything that says it affects evade

[compact trout]

Ye it happens only with Nihilis equiped, just tested it

[turbid dome]

🤔

what da hek

[compact trout]

Aha found it

Nihilis triggers Void Flux passive but without cooldown for some reason

I guess Void Flux just casts Anomaly with your skill tree then

[turbid dome]

I guess?

thats weird

[compact trout]

Actually no, it has cooldown, but like 8 seconds

[supple iris]

Is battle hardened worth taking?

[west dock]

is it me or density in monos is much higher

[midnight pine]

how are people getting damage from whiorlwind? there is only one node that increases phys damage.

is pure phys builds trash? do you have to convert to a element to make skills useful in this game?

[supple iris]

You either do a bleed FG build, or a void VK build, or a smite proc paladin build... I don't think you generally do phys hit?

Could be wrong though, there are a lot of build possibilities in this game

[compact trout]

It is, each echo has new event packs

• lizards i guess

[west dock]

ah i mean even without them

too bad this time i rolled not taht aoe heavy build 😄

[supple iris]

Depends on when you played last. As someone who is new to 1.1 from 0.9 and skipped 1.0, SOME monos definitely feel WAY denser than they ever used to

[compact trout]

Feels the same to me tbh, but very good all in all with new packs, sad that they will go away

Lizards on the other hand are kinda underwhelming to me, expected them to be rare but drop a lot

Not like 3 in each echo

[turbid dome]

Phys hit rive vk is a thing, not really for warpath

[compact trout]

They do be looking cute tho

[west dock]

i played last season. density is much higher rn. even without event mobs. it is will favor out of screen builds once again 😄

[quiet hearth]

that reminds me I need to try the slowest warpath build

[west dock]

yep. also they are annoying because of low loot 😄 for me at least

[turbid dome]

At least they make build enabling idols easy to get

[supple iris]

I just noticed there are multiple pages in the shops rofl

Can't believe there are a few red rings dropped already wtf,

[supple iris]

Is there a movespeed cap? i lost swiftness on a ring swap but don't feel any slower o_O

Ah, maybe a little slower

Oooo, I might be ready to drop rive... Sigils or Anomaly?

[copper walrus]

both

[supple iris]

Drop reversal then?

[copper walrus]

nah, up to u man

try them both out seee which one works better for u

[turbid dome]

Does your build want straight damage? Sigils of despair

Does your build need easy shred and the party platter of other buffs from time bubble? Anomaly’

[tardy mirage]

nah its just losing 10 when you have 100 is alot less noticeable than losing 10 when all you got is 10 lel

[supple iris]

Woops, I despecialized the wrong skill T_T Durrr

I was like "Why isn't void cleave moving at all?"

Are sigils a better dps boost than reversal on bosses? They seem hard to keep up on bosses...

[alpine canopy]

Depends on your build. If it's a hit build, maybe sigils is better. If it's a DOT build, VR is better by far.

[supple iris]

VS ES hit

[alpine canopy]

If you have good uptime on anomaly's inc void taken node and you're a hit void build, sigils

[supple iris]

Do I need any +sigil time on idols or relic or anything?

[alpine canopy]

If you're struggling with mana, I'd say just go VR since it's free

[alpine canopy]

Nah, not mandatory unless you are trying to keep max sigils up with sun seal and sigils off your bar

[supple iris]

Not sure how I'd keep it off my bar when my mana is constantly bottom 30% ;P

Like the auto cast on the ring wouldn't proc

[rancid lantern]

Can Abyssal Decay from Abyssal Echoes crit once proccd?

[alpine canopy]

Heh yeah sun seal won't work for you

[alpine canopy]

No, it's a DOT

[rancid lantern]

So here's my little dilemma

[alpine canopy]

Even when dealt instantly etc

[rancid lantern]

hit based echoes have 100% damage effectiveness

dot based decay has 305% damage effectiveness

so, hit based echoes assumes youll crit for at least 3x the damage disregarding the 20 base

am I off base here

Granted dot based decay needs a hit to be consumed

but point stands, no?

[supple iris]

Is it better to have the exalted mana on helm and chest be % or flat, if you can choose?

[rancid lantern]

Flat is better until like

600 mana?

(comparing 30% mana to 180 flat)

[supple iris]

% it is then haha

[alpine canopy]

To break even dps-wise, yeah that's what you need to do

[rancid lantern]

so without crit, theres no point running hit based echoes

as I see it

[alpine canopy]

There are some other caveats with that too, such as now it benefits from armor shred and applies other on-hit stuff

[alpine canopy]

Without crit, there's generally no point running hit based anything tbf

[rancid lantern]

touche

[supple iris]

Is there a reason most people don't spec into the -10% void and necro dmg on healing hands? Seems good?

[rancid lantern]

just too much need for other stuff

its good if you dont need anything tho

[alpine canopy]

Maybe they just need those points for something else. They are good effects, but they are also situational

[rancid lantern]

@alpine canopy Resounding Abyss also makes the calculation more skewed towards dot based. so strange.

[supple iris]

Omg I have 36 runes of ascendence burning a hole in my backpack

[alpine canopy]

Why is that? I've never actually tried hit based AE 😅

[rancid lantern]

Sorry, I meant Turbulence. cause abyssal decay duration effectively increases the total damage once proccd

oh wait

scrap that

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's an extra more multi that hit-based doesn't get

or, semi-more multi, it's additive with decay duration on gear

getting benefit from armor shred is pretty nice though, especially considering all the armor shred nodes on the tree

and the neat stuff behind them like ranged casting and void rifts

[rancid lantern]

yea

Ranged casting

seems kinda pointless

you can already target it

full screen away

i dont know whats the point of that node lmao

[alpine canopy]

No, it's just like ele nova

[rancid lantern]

Well im using it right now

[alpine canopy]

or does screaming rifts also let you target?

[rancid lantern]

Ye

[supple iris]

Ah, the blessing grind. Oof it hates me so much

[rancid lantern]

sooo

i think i got a quest break

and i cant progress

any way i can reset quest progress?

[supple iris]

Which one?

Often leaving teh area and coming back will fix it

[rancid lantern]

unfortunately not

isle of storms

i picked up one of the moon fragments

and it keeps asking me to get it

but i already picked it up

and it doesnt respawn

[supple iris]

Try getting the other one? You'll have to do it without map pings, but it should work... I think

[rancid lantern]

the other one i already have

[supple iris]

You only need one

[rancid lantern]

hold on

[alpine canopy]

It's a bugged out quest, probably top-ish priority for a fix

[rancid lantern]

welp

what do before that

workarounds?

or any forced quest reset i can do

[turbid dome]

Get a temporal sanctum key

Or someone to tp you past the door?

[supple iris]

Wonder how many code of eraseds I'm gonna have to burn through until I get one that isn't hot garbage.

[turbid dome]

Yes

[tranquil pagoda]

Is Final Hour any good at all for Void Cleave/Erasing Strike build? The guide I'm following uses it, but I have no idea how you maintain 12 stacks for the double damage....

Maybe it's manageable when you can echo ES and have over 200% time rot chance

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it starts to be manageable the better your mana sustain gets between stacks from VC and from ES

[turbid dome]

5 points in void cleaves warped decay node helps

[tranquil pagoda]

Yeah, think I'm going to start dumping points in there pretty soon

[turbid dome]

gonna go fight lagon

[compact trout]

If you are playing with world splitter - it has around 50% increased mana as an affix so %mana on other gear will be worse than flat

[supple iris]

Oh yeah good point

[turbid dome]

lagon ded, rebuke op

[compact trout]

Won't catch me using rebuke, to busy holding rmb

[turbid dome]

80% + 60% less dmg taken op vs lagon

[compact trout]

Watch me try to dash through his beam for a hundredth time while screaming irl

I was made to play hc

[copper walrus]

it works 3% of the time

[weary wren]

just a quick question. the erasing strike node - rifts of destruction increases time rift dmg by 150% multiplicative, the node doesnt say its specific for the rifts created by erasing strike so I guess it works for the rifts created by devouring orb?

[waxen nymph]

No it's only for ER

[supple iris]

Man, VK is so squishy >_<

[lunar hazel]

You have it wrong way around. All skill nodes are only for that skill and maybe its subskills unless they say different. Usually the way to tell they affect other things is that they say "global".

[icy lily]

another one

[rigid urchin]

Brothers forged weapons smack

[icy lily]

yea, they do all the work for me

[rigid urchin]

I got 2 of the rings and am lvling it and they delete bosses rares

They just shred everything

If they had an AoE version you could summon it would be a meta build 100%

[waxen nymph]

Its here already (kinda)

[tame cape]

does anyone have a hammer bleed loot filter?

[waxen nymph]

Probably Maxroll

Any good ways to get Haste/Frenzy in Sentinel ?

[devout sierra]

is the pull effect from rive increased by its own aoe increase on the node next to it, that raises the aoe of second strikes

[waxen nymph]

Yes, and pretty Increase AoE from gear too

[foggy heron]

maybe lunge, you have experimental affixe on boots

lunge is on kill

nevermind

[dry basalt]

am i doin something wrong or just get used to broken build, feels like sometimes the dmg is lacking in c200 https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjPRPl1A

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 87

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (60) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,270, Regen: 43.45/s
▸ Mana: 245.94, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 64%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 0 Dex / 12 Int / 5 Att / 82 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 80% / 131% / 78% / 80% / 232% / 100%
▸ EHP: 10,168 / 10,168 / 10,168 / 18,823 / 10,168 / 10,168 / 10,168

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 763
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,304)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 26%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smite (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Anomaly (20)

Used unique items:

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Anchor of Oblivion

[foggy heron]

my build will be so bad, earsing strike voidbeam and devouring orb😭

[waxen nymph]

Not sure about HH here, but otherwise looks great

Devotion Amulet Maybe ?

No Volatile Reversal too

[dry basalt]

Will try vr for the dmg boost, thanks

[waxen nymph]

Maybe a Palarus to get Extra Smites instead of HH

Problem with HH is it doesnt get Flat Spell per Vit unlike Smite and Mad Ladle doesnt carry a lot

So its pretty weak

Also not Void so any %Void Dmg is wasted

If you go DW Palarus you could get Blademaster (Base Sentinel) for extra Cast Speed too

[harsh nova]

Nihilist, lunge skill tree

Kill with lunge can grant up to 4 seconds of frenzy

Sword catcher has it also?

[lunar hazel]

experimental affix on boots, choose one 😉

[harsh nova]

Darkstrides too hard to get in 3lp

[waxen nymph]

Great ideas, but none I can use

[harsh nova]

What are u running

[waxen nymph]

Ignite Shield Throw FG

I can get Haste on ST

[harsh nova]

Yerp

[thorn moth]

For the purposes of this node, does the effect of this unique count as a direct cast?

[waxen nymph]

Nope

Direct Cast/Use requires you to click/press the button

[thorn moth]

ok, ty

does the previous node that just says cast still work though?

[arctic tartan]

I think direct cast is when you pay the mana cost? instead of the consume on this?

[thorn moth]

no because abyssal echoes costs from void cleave doesnt count as a direct use

[arctic tartan]

But it does, doesn't it? I can proc Embrace the Darkness through Void Cleave

[thorn moth]

hmm

[waxen nymph]

There is a bug (dont know what way) in that interaction

[arctic tartan]

Ah. Well that explains.

[waxen nymph]

It does but it says it shouldnt
So either the text is wrong, or it shouldnot

[waxen nymph]

I dont think so , but I believe this should be easy enough to test since that node should show an icon

[thorn moth]

it doesn't have an icon

[waxen nymph]

Oo

Really ?

[thorn moth]

I have casted sigils abyssal echoes and holy aura manually ands nothing has popped up

[heady depot]

any builds focused on forged weapons endgame viable?

[small rivet]

Does anyone have a good VK erasing strike loot filter they can link to?

[arctic tartan]

Maaaaan, VK is such a struggle

I'm at a point at which I could farm for World Splitter...If I was able to kill the harbinger

[hollow skiff]

Skil when echo is not deal the damage

is that a bug ????

[arctic tartan]

Next attempt after whining about it 😄

[hollow skiff]

[lunar hazel]

You're a helicopter, Harry

[supple iris]

Ah yes, there's that VK squishiness that always makes me want to quit... Urgh

Already feeling it at 240 corr

[hollow skiff]

spin to win

[cobalt blade]

Warpath

[harsh nova]

but how much hp have u built 😆

by 250 corruption should have like 3200-3500 hp at least

[supple iris]

Not enough >_< I have 2.1k, and low end. Not sure how to fix that without cosing me my infinite ES though ;P

[harsh nova]

belt usually

belt and helm

my shattered chains had almost 900 hp on it 🤷‍♂️

[supple iris]

Hmmm, yeah, I'm using this ;P

But shattered chains are EXPENSIVE

[harsh nova]

just use an exalt with hp / hp hybrid

for vk ur basically not going to be building damage anywhere except weapon / ring and then crit multi on relic and amulet, every other stat should be defensive

once you reach a comfortable ehp you can start trading for more damage, but ur ability to do higher content is determined by ur survivability not damage

[supple iris]

Hmmm, flat health, %health, or endurance to go with hybrid health on belt? =/

[harsh nova]

% health

% health is the BIS t7

you get so much flat hp cuz scaling vit most of the time hybrid ends up being worse

[supple iris]

Wonder if Woven Flesh would be worth using for crit avoid if I can slam health + mana into it... By some miracle...

[harsh nova]

super easy to get 2lp on woven, and a great chest until leonine helm

ill almost always grab a woven until lvl 90

[supple iris]

What's leonine?

[harsh nova]

leonine helm reduces damage taken from crits up to like 80%

it's just a normal base type

[supple iris]

Oh, duh, that's actually what I'm using:

[harsh nova]

yeah so u have 64% crit reduction atm

reroll the implicit and u can get a bit higher

once ur near 80% mitigation crits basically don't exist

[supple iris]

If I don't run out of FP and end up worse ;P

Oh 50 is the bottm, it can't get worse rofl

[harsh nova]

yeah

[supple iris]

There we go, 89% total

And 2.7k hp from a mediocre belt

[harsh nova]

generally ill go t7 health on rings as well and u'll be big chillin

idols from there

[supple iris]

My siphon has health

My oceanid does not

[harsh nova]

flames > ocean imo

swiftness so nice, reliable to get 2lp on flames also and up to 17% pen

[supple iris]

Where should I get endurance?

[harsh nova]

that's the thing, you don't

the problem with endurance is that it's not double health for the threshold, so just building more hp is generally better

[supple iris]

Oh really? Weird... That seems so weird to me, I remember when end was the meta.

[harsh nova]

it's so garbage

[supple iris]

That makes sense though

I guess it's because I was playing druid in like 0,8 or 0.9 or whatever

[harsh nova]

there's a couple spots you can technically sneak a roll or 2 in, but ur LP requirements become insane

[pale shale]

is void knight bugged? why do i have -10% meelee crit chance?

with no items equiped?

[harsh nova]

[hollow skiff]

Echo skill void not deal damage

[grand inlet]

same issue here

[harsh nova]

this patch does not give hope for future cycles

the amount of bugs are insane

[hollow skiff]

😱

[pale shale]

so it is not even just crit chance?

[harsh nova]

like everywhere, everything is bugged it seems

[harsh nova]

who knows 😆

[pale shale]

it is soooo wierd

[harsh nova]

right click cleave 🫣

[real parcel]

hello everyone, I need help, I started playing for paladin Smite, but I somehow weakly kill mobs, and in patch 1.0 it was very good, the build is almost the same, or even the same, someone has the same or what's going on? Is Palladin a nerf?

[supple iris]

Are you playing a legacy character? Did you reapply all your passives? They may have reset.

[real parcel]

no, im start new char after wipe, 19 september

it good dps, right? but mobs die slow

[supple iris]

In what corruption? And what are you casting/procing it with? I dunno, link to planner?

[real parcel]

100, I just came out on overpowered monoliths.

how can I upload my character to the planner automatically, so as not to fill it with my hands?

[supple iris]

letools has an import function

[real parcel]

@supple iris this https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYKYnxDQ

[waxen nymph]

You are not making Healing Hands deal dmg

[real parcel]

Mmm, why? Am I doing damage with Smythe, or am I missing something?

[waxen nymph]

Why are you taking Healing Hands? And why do you have it proccing with Smite?

[turbid dome]

With fire smite, you might as well make healing hands do fire dmg to double dip on your scaling

[supple iris]

Ugh, for VK Julra is such a skill check. Gotta play perfect for so long it feels like.

[real parcel]

im use healing hand for healing, smite use direct self cast (right mouse button)

healing hand proc from smite

[supple iris]

Got 'er. Now for the REALLY scary part... the gamble...

It dodged the crit multi, but it coulda done worse than mixed void pen I guess T_T

Back to the RNG board

[turbid dome]

V o I d

[cobalt blade]

vold

Julra is more fun if u use Ancient Reversal

[turbid dome]

Makes sense to me that time magic might go a little crazy given all the wacky time magic in there

[supple iris]

I remember learning that fight on my judge aura paladin... VR got me killed so many times.

[echo plank]

What turned out to be generally best sentinel build last cycle? (seems like it will be this one too). I see a lot of bleed hammrdin in tier list, but i have trust issues for all these tier list. I'd much rather have general community opinion

[alpine canopy]

Bleed pally is definitely good (hammers or vortex pennant). idk about a clear best build, but bleed has solid clear speed, as do quite a few others.

[supple iris]

I think the thing with bleed is that it can use a shield and get 100% block to become one of the tankiest sentinel builds without totally gutting its dps.

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, flayer's pride is definitely a pro for bleed builds

[echo plank]

Was there anything that was considered strictly stronger? not necessarily hammers related?

[supple iris]

Sentinel isn't super well theory-crafted I feel like. VC + ES is very good for clear speed, little squishy though. Judge aura paladin is still solid, but has a small AoE field. Not sure how good one-punch is these days, probably still good. Healing hands fire spam is supposed to be really good but I haven't tried it. The smite builds are all... Just ok.

I haven't tried bleed yet mainly because it feels so off-brand for a paladin ;P Flavor-wise

[echo plank]

pre-harbingers i tried Healing hands divine bolt and it was really cool to play, but i think something changed there because last cycle it felt so much worse (i know few skills got dmg adjustments, but like damn...)

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, might just be my ignorance, but sentinel seems pretty decently balanced atm, no insane outliers that I know of

[echo plank]

problem is last cycle i settled on frost claw sorc, and everything sentinel now seems like a downgrade lol

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, HH was mega busted at 1.0, smelter's wrath was busted in 1.1, both have been fixed

[supple iris]

I played torment lock and dive bomb falconer and have the same issue.

[alpine canopy]

Playing busted builds will do that

[echo plank]

you know, it's not even the dmg

but that sorc build just run at 4x the speed you can get on sentinel, while still casting everything

[supple iris]

Yeah, agreed. The clear on my VK feels great. But man, its SO HARD to itemize your survivability to not feel like paper. Torment lock is just immortal for free.

[echo plank]

it's like i'm playing slowmo now XD

(i'm a huge advocate of boosting base movement speed and decreasing modifiers)

[supple iris]

Sentinels main issue, still after all this time, is that it has like zero defensive layers in its passive trees, unlike literally every other class.

[turbid dome]

We have armor

[supple iris]

Eyeroll

[turbid dome]

Uhh that one passive in the base tree

Void ageis?

[harsh nova]

we have 10% dr to close enemies

[supple iris]

Ehhh... Void aegis is only like 25% chance ot proc on hit. Great for monos, bad for bosses

[alpine canopy]

This one is free

[supple iris]

It's also not enough 😛

[harsh nova]

i could only manage 5500 hp last cycle smh

[alpine canopy]

but aside from that, the problem is just that sent's thing was supposed to be getting armor and health... but now all classes can do that about just as well

[cobalt blade]

spires, lightning elementals and sacred bloom be like... wots that?

[alpine canopy]

Sent gets a lot of free/easy defenses, it just hits the cap and then has nowhere else to go

like I started a pally this reset and basically don't have to get any resists or other defenses with my affixes aside from like 1 endurance affix... but after that, not really much else to build aside from more health

[supple iris]

Well, and the lack of passive layers means they don't scale as well as other classes do with their layers. So sent feels better early, and worse late.

Good floor, bad ceiling

[alpine canopy]

Yup

at least the floor is good enough to hit empowered, so sent is still viable, it just doesn't feel invincible like other classes do

[supple iris]

Casters are still the tankiest because ward is so nuts even after the nerfs.

[harsh nova]

game only balanced through 3-500c at best anyways

and sentinel demolishes 500c

in every spec

[supple iris]

requires more min-maxed gear to do that tho

[harsh nova]

and?

[supple iris]

Relative to others

[harsh nova]

still able to do it, just because u ignored hp until u needed it 😆

[supple iris]

Does Tyranny get constantly faster? I swear I just got hit by an absolutely undodgeable attack

[alpine canopy]

No

Just be careful you don't have frenzy/enrage on the fight

[supple iris]

Whyzat? I think part of it is that sometimes melee stuns will actually speed up his time between actions if it happens at the wrong time.

Also, what's better for ehp, the vitality from fearless, or void aegis?

[turbid dome]

Void aegis works for doing echos, not boss fights

[supple iris]

vit it is I guess

[turbid dome]

Giving it a 3 point threshold effect of procs on boss hit would be great

[feral island]

Anyone have a viable build for Smite that isn't Hammers? Trying to go Hard casting Smite but even with all the multiplier and Healing Hands it's just not a lot of damage

[supple iris]

Dual wield new sword with a really good wand (or scepter if you can get Culver's with -cost) and go all in on lightning dmg. It's not amazing, but it's definitely viable.

[feral island]

I'm doing fire because of all the fire from Aura and the 100% increase from ignited enemies. I guess lightning is better?

[feral island]

Is the new sword the one that 46% chance casts Smite when you hard cast it?

[supple iris]

Fire has pretty good single target from what I've heard but hte clear will always feel meh

Yes

[feral island]

Ty

[tropic thicket]

What is the best paladin buid this season?

[real parcel]

dont know

[turbid dome]

theres been no balance changes so look for any good builds from the harby launch

[quiet hearth]

literally what GD did and it works perfectly imo.

zero balance changes was really odd, I think a few of the big ones could have been tapped down, or those on the bottom given some love on short notice.

[supple iris]

Yeah, even though it was more of an economy reset than a proper season change, you'd think they'd have gone for the biggest offenders (coughsorccough*

[subtle relic]

maybe a dumb question but does the lacerate on rive get buffed by +phys dmg% ?

[alpine canopy]

Yes it does. It deals 1 melee physical damage over time at base, plus whatever melee damage you have (untyped melee becomes phys)

[quiet hearth]

This event runs into Oct yeah?

[west dock]

1 month long

[quiet hearth]

well hopefully my controller gets here soon, I played for a few hours today and man my arm is killing me. gotta love nerve issues.

[harsh nova]

after 15 years of runescape i gotta take it easy on the wrist can't play high apm classes anymore

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-paralyzed-hand-not-working-gif-16546906

^ me playing sorc

[west dock]

im old man im playing 20 apm builds 😄

num lock is a thing also here 😄

[supple iris]

Play one button throw smite warpath paladin 😉

[cobalt blade]

wait there is actually 75% DR from distanced enemies shrine

[quiet hearth]

Nah, I really need a controller, Icant keep my arms in one position long enough, yay degenerative disease

[compact trout]

Finally, much needed buff to melee

[icy lily]

God, I hope there's also a black hole shrine that constantly sucks enemies towards your blade. And if there isnt one, then I'll clamor for it

[supple iris]

What's better blessing for Sentienl, flat armor or chance to frailty?

[subtle relic]

love that void cleave can be traversal skill now

[quiet hearth]

I'd say armor just because frailty is everywhere

[alpine canopy]

You want some frailty chance just so you can keep bosses at 3 stacks. After that, doesn't matter.

[turbid dome]

Give me a rebuke node that puts the warpath spin around me

[quiet hearth]

no, occasionally cast rebuke while channeling warpath

[quiet hearth]

Or spend it's CD to give you the buffs, WP could use some defensive love anyway

[twin wyvern]

Hi, vengeance paladin is really fun! Even with 0 ward it's so tanky! Only 360 corruption tho

[turbid dome]

Rebuke becomes a toggle, 50% less bonuses from rebuke, 35% less movement speed

[quiet hearth]

I mean even just giving the buff bonuses would be great, no less speed though

[turbid dome]

less speed cause you can walk around with it on ez

[tardy mirage]

i need to stop thinking with poe brain

actually thought that slow speed had value on hammer throw for a bit

[tardy mirage]

nah just give actual good uptime on the lingering effect sadge

[alpine canopy]

It kinda does, for orbiting hammers and/or disintegrating aura hammers

[tardy mirage]

ye just using spiral and i thought that having the projectiles hang might have caused them to hit things more as they passed through

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it doesn't do that, but it does let the hammers hang out a while longer where you can potentially get them to move in and out of the boss more times for more hits

and is nice for clearing so they stay closer to you for longer instead of flying off and hitting some rock lol

[tardy mirage]

ye guess theres that oof

[digital surge]

Void well states, when you drop below 0% mana you refund ONE void essence to set your mana to 30%. then at the botom says, consumed THREE void essences... like, wording fail?

[neat crag]

it consumes all 3 stacks to set your mana to 30%

[rigid urchin]

hows the judgment build playing rn

[supple iris]

Which one? ;P

[rigid urchin]

unarmed aura one

[supple iris]

I have no experience with one punch, but aura feels about the same as it always has. Good enough for 400-500 corr, but nothing insane.

[icy lily]

Unlocked empowered monos and finally I am dying for once, game's been way too easy thus far with the crazy amount of defenses you have as FG

[supple iris]

I'm about to reroll to farm for my VK... I'm so sick of getting wrecked by Heorot at freaking 344 with way WAY better gear than my torment lock (legacy now) who laughs at 450 has T_T

Or maybe try the spark charge sorc. I haven't played sorc like... ever, actually. I think it's the only sub class I've never played at all.

[supple iris]

Valuable lesson learned I guess. If I want to play a fun build that needs insane gear to feel half decent... Season start with a hax build. Especially when spoiled by a hax build already T_T

[quiet hearth]

I dunno about Sorc but I did a Runemaster and converted frost wall to light along with fireball, you just cast wall and it does the work from there.

[real parcel]

hello? if im get this im get only void leech or void + melee leech?

4 or 8% ?

[waxen nymph]

You are getting 4% Melee and 4% Void. So 8% Melee Void

[real parcel]

oh nice

[real parcel]

tnx

[supple iris]

Ok, playing my lock on legacy clenches it, I'm 1000% rerolling.

[alpine canopy]

Making 10 new characters is real dedication to the reroll

[dry basalt]

After warpath, es and smiter, now changin my vk to disintegrate aura, play in legacy make it easier to change around

[supple iris]

I dunno, all those 0 gold uniques from people trying to level up their reputation with MG makes rerolling not too painful. Hardest part is... leveling up your reputation haha

[waxen nymph]

How is it possible people are still putting stuff at 0 gold?

[supple iris]

Don't ask me, but 95% of the time when I price check a unique, even one I previously considered good (from playing CoF and whatever), there's like dozens of them at 0g

[waxen nymph]

🤷🤷

So stupid

[supple iris]

I mean, I get it though. It's really the only way to increase your rep.

Definitely makes the economy weird in how it evolves over time though.

[waxen nymph]

You don't need to sell to get your rep

Just listing the item gives you rep

It's when you spend the favor (listing) you get rep

[supple iris]

Oh, huh. I did not know that. Clearly many others don't as well haha. Or maybe they're just out to help newbies? Who knows

Hmmmm, spark charge sorc or torment lock, that is the real question.

[waxen nymph]

Spark Warlock

[foggy heron]

where do I get crit immune on my voidknight ?

[cobalt blade]

leo helm never goes wrong

[foggy heron]

it looks so good, but I wanted to use a vitality helmet 😭

I guess I will have to use this

thx