pray to egg
#🔱┃sentinel
turbid dome
quiet hearth
egg egg egg egg
turbid dome
quiet hearth
I should make a bleed LL paladin
turbid dome
I want more spear support for sentinel
harsh nova
saw a good forge guard recently with spear
turbid dome
hell just making rive be only forward thrusts with a spear would be enough for me
quiet hearth
Good news, they will have that in GD xD
harsh nova
finally got cd anchor at least
quiet hearth
I should do some lightless runs, I have like 50 keys
harsh nova
was struggling for despair glyphs till i remembered u get a butt load from there
hollow skiff
finally got cd anchor at least
i have 2 like this lolll
hollow skiff
finally got cd anchor at least
nice bro
harsh nova
bricked my 2lp 😭
hollow skiff
sad
cobalt blade
i mean...
quiet hearth
im being toyed with here
cobalt blade
nice
Only half nice when the all resist while channelling didnt get in and I am not getting another 2LP
quiet hearth
Not with that attitude
ok we gotta talk about emperor of corpses for a minute
since when does this nerd hit so hard?
orchid hazel
Do you guys know if triggered effects can echo? (ie: axe throw on melee hit)
hollow skiff
nope.
blazing grotto
you dont need to leech health as sentinel as long as you heal yourself though
blazing grotto
im being toyed with here
same here, kek
quiet hearth
I have spent so much gold on respecs this cycle xD
harsh nova
we making dreamthorns today?
blazing grotto
you're a dreamthorn in my side
harsh nova
has pretty good damage
turbid dome
proper salmon
So would Rive's "Scrap Metal" apply to that set helm effect?
waxen nymph
No
proper salmon
dang, okay thanks
harsh nova
made a nice one
turbid dome
made a nice one
pretty
harsh nova
lookin juicy now
turbid dome
harsh nova
almost a nice one
turbid dome
what did it miss?
harsh nova
lightning dam
turbid dome
harsh nova
wouldn't mind the shock if damage hit 😭
jovial oasis
with Palarus, is it better to have smite on hit w/ multistrike, or direct cast?
harsh nova
i was gonna go for a casting build
harsh nova
anotha one
harsh nova
but we hit the movespeed 
blazing grotto
my best one is like this, but sadly...
blazing grotto
but we hit the movespeed <:POG:799783247121743883>
gratz
would have been better with a 30%+ avoidance though
harsh nova
naturally the 4th stat on there
cobalt blade
All these item showcase and I have 0 gear progression
harsh nova
found these today also
turbid dome
great base for slamin'
cobalt blade
Hax
harsh nova
brick slam smh
alpine canopy
Got some more defense for your defensive gloves
harsh nova
was going for the off-meta attack speed roll anyways 😆
farmed shades for 12h today no 2lp 😭
burnt kestrel
Hey all,any1 can give me a good pala build ? ty
chilly peak
with Palarus, is it better to have smite on hit w/ multistrike, or direct cast?
Or Warpath? 🙂
gleaming pine
no one in their righ tmind would try and get a 2lp ravenous, so he must be talking about a maw or shattered chains
gleaming pine
yeah he said it was a world drop which further emphasises that the 2 statements had nothing to do with each other
blazing grotto
no one in their righ tmind would try and get a 2lp ravenous, so he must be talki...
i would tbh, if i didnt have one
gleaming pine
would you go for a 2lp of anything, if you already didnt have a 1lp that was slammed with the right t7? or would you go for the correctly slammed 1lp first
go for, as in i'm not stopping until i get it. not aspire to get it
gleaming pine
whats your definition of go for
eg maw: im going for an 2lp, coz i have so many 1lps that i dont even pick em up anymore. ravenous void: its lpl 105, on already extremely rare item. going for a 2lp when i dont even have a 1lp of it is insanity. I'll be happy with a 1lp that i can maybe slam with something good if i'm lucky
turbid dome
yo harbringers cycle 2, eletric boogalo time?
scenic gyro
login bois, mid cycle patch with tons of new fun stuff, hell yea
turbid dome
and an economy reset
jovial oasis
If I knew what was going to not appear in legacy I'd be more excited
quiet hearth
Well, that kinda kills my desire to play the game right now knowing its gonna reset in a few weeks
blazing grotto
aren't you a new player though ?
it should make you happier at least to start on equal footing
and if you were legacy you're pretty much unaffected
quiet hearth
XD I am so far from a new player
jovial oasis
New footing doesn't really matter for non competitive play, though
and being locked out of new content which might appeal is kind of lame, which is why people probably play on new cycles outside of ladders in the first place
quiet hearth
It really does when you lose your progress, items, ect. I get why it is being done however. But if I know I have to start over in a few weeks, just means I dont want to play in this part of the cycle. It's literally wasted time.
jovial oasis
If I knew I wasn't going to interact with the new cycle mechanics I'd keep playing
but I literally do not know what is going to be locked out from legacy and what isn't, just that Abberoth is now enabled in legacy
quiet hearth
I've played so many builds already, pushing end game has never really been my thing, especially not the first release as very rarely do they get it right.
And by they I mean devs in general, not just here. Will definitely be looking for the patch notes so I can see what's changing.
turbid dome
I hope the event isn't just kill immortal empire enemies
harsh nova
this event already feels like a waste of time
turbid dome
eh its nice for me to go to merchants guild and not feel bad about loosing all my cof gear
harsh nova
mostly that we will see almost no class changes lol
turbid dome
true
harsh nova
like ur really telling everyone wait another 3 months for class changes? alright
turbid dome
I hope theres some borrowed power thing for the event so its not just the same builds
harsh nova
yeah i see no reason to participate if the builds haven't been changed
turbid dome
I'd probably just try to cycle start some wacky build then give up at some point during empowered monos
harsh nova
i do hope it's fun, but why is the whole thing. it just feels very poorly placed and the reasonings they give are pretty junk
and we won't see 1.2 till christmas?
after poe2 release? game is shot in the foot
turbid dome
poe2 is gonna nuke every other game's population, but I think last epoch has some unique stuff that will make me come back each cycle
harsh nova
from the looks i won't be back until next june for 1.3
turbid dome
I'm a fan of any game which adds chronomancy
turbid dome
from the looks i won't be back until next june for 1.3
is that the weaver cycle?
harsh nova
no idea 🤷♂️
but poe2 beta is going to release, then 1.2, then poe is going to come out of beta
turbid dome
isn't poe2 open beta like this november
harsh nova
something like that, which means they are within 3-6 months of release most likely
turbid dome
given how polished the closed beta looks, the open beta might as well be the regular release
I hope last epoch has something to make it stick out vs poe2
harsh nova
yeah they really aren't that far from finished, which is why i don't understandd why you would push 1.2 back farther
turbid dome
Last epoch needs like 2 or 3 more content additions like this past one for a bigger endgame
or make the dungeons not whatever they are right now
harsh nova
dungeons def feel a little weird. i was doing t3 for so long on all of them and then i could only really do them when I had crazy gear for the t4. the gap is way steeper than any other tier jump and they could just make tier 3 where tier 4 is currently and give us a real challenge
and the only dungeon i accept obstacles in is temporal sanctum for flavor purposes
the whole timeline jumping is just very well placed for that dungeon i like it
turbid dome
the timeline jumping is extra fun with VR
where will I go? nobody knows! -> lands in a dot pool and dies
harsh nova
😆
grizzled arrow
with hammer throw nova is the dps only counting 1 hammer hitting 1 target?
avatar of the spire its called that makes the skill nova
harsh nova
🐵 we play void knight sir
turbid dome
mmm crit vk hammar throw
harsh nova
📔
i was thinking about trying smite with that glove that gives non crits more damage from charges on ur crits
heck if i remember which that is
turbid dome
quiet hearth
like ur really telling everyone wait another 3 months for class changes? alright
yes because things like that take time. concept, animations, ect. That takes time, it's like 70 ppl not a mega studio.
harsh nova
70 People is the majority the size of poe team.
they have like 100-120?
it's really not that small of a studio
and if they want to push things back then i'll just go play something else until this game is worth putting time into, like a lot of other players which is unfortunate
grizzled arrow
ggg do have more money and have worked on a the same engine for 11+ years
harsh nova
they could also roll out some updates for classes even if it's not every rework for 1.2. like there's next to no reason to actually participate in this event and it feels like they could've just dev'd the 1.2 stuff instead of a fluff event
tight jolt
yes because things like that take time. concept, animations, ect. That takes tim...
Where is that 70 number coming from? Still at work so not doing a hardcore dive, but only concrete number I'm finding was "3 dozen" from 2020.
quiet hearth
GGG is around 110 or so employees as of this year, last I heard the total count was 50+ and they had some jobs posted for things. So yeah, it's HALF the team, which is a big deal when it comes to production.
Also, the game is 100% worth putting time into, even as is it easily trades blows with anything else on the market so I dont get that angle at all.
cerulean sorrel
crude matrixBOT
quiet hearth
Item lets me move during Rebuke channel when
harsh nova
Also, the game is 100% worth putting time into, even as is it easily trades blow...
poe2 releases in novemeber into beta and then will full release shortly after
so if i have to wait till novemeber or december for 1.2 theres not a high likelyhood of me actually playing 1.2
quiet hearth
Ok and? It's been in development for years now, is being done by a team that is at the top of their field and it's still like a half a year after beta. That's just you, and that still doesnt change what they need to do or the time they need to do it in AND that it will likely do nothing but improve what is already one of the best games in the genre.
harsh nova
the point is epoch is putting their cycles very poorly timed and the community isn't really following making the gaming experience less than ideal
5k active players is a dead game by most standards
blazing grotto
Ok and? It's been in development for years now, is being done by a team that is ...
the point is not necessarily to "improve" but take a different path and develop from there
quiet hearth
lol, this game is far from dead and EVERY cyclic game falls off after big releases. It's just smaller in scope because of the lower player base.
blazing grotto
and development team
tight jolt
GGG is around 110 or so employees as of this year, last I heard the total count ...
PoE 2 alone has over 100 on it. Dunno how much new hiring they did to ramp up, but I think it's fair to say EHG is less than half their dev size.
quiet hearth
That...that was literally my point
tight jolt
Yeah, I wasn't trying to contradict you. Your comment just got me interested in the numbers. Just adding my own 2 cents.
tribal crane
poe2 releases in novemeber into beta and then will full release shortly after
shortly after? where you'd get that from, for all we know it will be released in 2025 but that could still be year away.
tight jolt
Do I want to redo Shield Bash FG or try Rive VK for the refresh 🤔
quiet hearth
You wanna do Shield Bash Eclipse Horizon VK
I might actually get that to the end point, but it was surprisingly good because it allows you to bypass the AS issues
lost python
Poe 2 will be in alpha for 0.5-1 year lol. Its official info
what are some of you smoking xD
blazing grotto
PoE 2 alone has over 100 on it. Dunno how much new hiring they did to ramp up, b...
ave (i think that was ave at least) said the other day that there was around 100 people at EHG
lost python
I mean 100 of them doesn’t mean everyone is developer. But still it’s much more than I anticipated
harsh nova
Poe 2 will be in alpha for 0.5-1 year lol. Its official info
except it's beta not alpha lol
lost python
Beta, alpha, early access. It’s no matter. It’s not full release. I see everyone is using different wording lol
quiet hearth
Only it does, because beta and alpha stages are inherently different things. Just because people dont understand that sometimes doesnt change it.
grizzled arrow
so the dps for hammer thrown nova is that only counting 1 of the hammers?
blazing grotto
Beta, alpha, early access. It’s no matter. It’s not full release. I see everyone...
actually beta is pretty much full release
unless said beta happens like a year or two before release
harsh nova
Survival genre the one that broke the whole beta early access thing really
Valheim in beta 6 years and running
jovial oasis
7 days to die was earl access for like 10 years lol
blazing grotto
Valheim in beta 6 years and running
you're confusing beta with early access
also wasnt valheim made by a single developer ? or is it the wrong one ?
i know the guy behind Manor Lords is alone for instance
harsh nova
Valheim was a team of under 10 yes. So when it takes them a year to dev content im much more understanding than a 100 man team
I mostly dont understand the design decision to not rebalance any class skills
Things like devouring orb are so dead its commical
Would be cool to see devouring orb get some of the love that reversal is losing and make it strong for dot builds or somethin
flint inlet
does code of erased sentinel reduce crit chance on world splitter because of it's -3 mana cost of melee attacks?
harsh nova
Correct
alpine canopy
I mostly dont understand the design decision to not rebalance any class skills
It might help your understanding if you knew that all the skill trees are a single prefab and VCS is generally garbage at handling prefabs. They are probably well underway on all the skill work for 1.2, making it a nightmare to try and separate 1.2 stuff out just to get some changes in.
EHG made some really bad backend choices a long time ago they are still dealing with because it was generally just made by people who really like ARPGs, not seasoned game devs
obtuse perch
Man, I was having fun with my forge guard and was planning to play it some more later into the cycle, but EHG was like "nope".
cobalt blade
I mean unless you are MG and/or chasing after leaderboard, there is no downside to continue in Legacy? I am not sure about the stashes though. This will be the first time I am forced to merge cuz my one and only alt is not done with the cycle yet
lost python
EHG made some really bad backend choices a long time ago they are still dealing ...
Yeah, you could feel that with game. They want good but can't deliver
solid forge
What they accomplished from nothing is just amazing. Obviously, it's probably never going to be PoE2/D4 level of Polish, but with experience, they will eventually make LE2 or similar
lost python
I mean unless you are MG and/or chasing after leaderboard, there is no downside...
Cycle stashes will be remove only, rest will merge
harsh nova
I mean unless you are MG and/or chasing after leaderboard, there is no downside...
This is a lame excuse by ehg. Lazy at best.
jovial oasis
Cycle stashes will be remove only, rest will merge
Wait, are you saying current cycle stashes are not merged to legacy?
blazing grotto
they are sent to legacy, but you can only withdraw from them
you'd have to buy extra stash tabs on legacy to deposit items
scenic gyro
tried making ravaging aura work and it just scales horribly even with major gear investment
anyone got a better experience out of this and made it work?
turbid dome
Rav aura with void cleave or with hammer throw?
scenic gyro
void cleave
turbid dome
I’ve tried making the VC rav work, it just doesn’t scale well enough imo
scenic gyro
i actually have some pretty sick gear on it, and i barely get by in empowered monos, single target is horendous
other builds with the same gear quality would be blasting 500c
turbid dome
If it could get flat dmg from your weapon like the hammer throw ones get from throwing damage it could work
It’s just very clunky and feels like a tack on to void cleaves tree
It can work if you just want the leech from it
scenic gyro
i squeezed in all flat dmg i could get my hands on, its still meh unfortunately
i tried some stuff out to add on top of it but at some point i might just play smth different then if it needs so many crutches
turbid dome
It’s sadly just lacking currently, tho it might be cool if rav aura becomes its own main skill with an entire tree
So vk can actually play into the theme of pain for gain
scenic gyro
fingers crossed
turbid dome
🤞
alpine canopy
tried making ravaging aura work and it just scales horribly even with major gear...
Yeah, it scales pretty decently well
it does take some shenanigans to really get the most out of it, but it works either way
You've got to do more than just scale flat damage, you need to stack more multis in VC, like this: ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ol8lqvLo
scenic gyro
isnt that just a void smiter
alpine canopy
No, rav aura is basically all of the clear, smite is just tacked on for funzies and abyssal echoes is for single target
scenic gyro
hmmmm i'll try playing around with it some more then
what corruption felt comfortable to clear with that steup? including single target
waxen nymph
i squeezed in all flat dmg i could get my hands on, its still meh unfortunately ...
Are you using either Multistrike or Warpath for their More Dmg to VC ?
scenic gyro
Are you using either Multistrike or Warpath for their More Dmg to VC ?
yea im using warpath
waxen nymph
Are you using the new Sceptre? Can't recall its name
scenic gyro
Are you using the new Sceptre? Can't recall its name
yea thats the only reason i made the char 😄
alpine canopy
hmmmm i'll try playing around with it some more then
what corruption felt comfor...
I didn't push it to its limit at all because I got tired of using VR on bosses (did two other sentinel DOT builds beforehand), so at least 200c in junk-ish gear
waxen nymph
yea thats the only reason i made the char 😄
Are you stopping Warpath before using VC?
alpine canopy
Are you using either Multistrike or Warpath for their More Dmg to VC ?
Oh yeah, forgot that existed. Could replace smite in my build with that if you want, would get you another 15-30% more damage or so for rav aura
scenic gyro
Are you stopping Warpath before using VC?
what purpose does that serve, am i missing an interaction
alpine canopy
what purpose does that serve, am i missing an interaction
That's how you get the 80% more multi from it on VC
I just numlock warpath and evade before using VC, so warpath stops to proc the buff and restarts so I get the 80% more damage and the +50 spell damage while channeling warpath
scenic gyro
i cant identify the more multiplier thing on warpath, which node is that
waxen nymph
But aura doesn't benefit from the Flat Spell then
waxen nymph
i cant identify the more multiplier thing on warpath, which node is that
Inside VC
alpine canopy
But aura doesn't benefit from the Flat Spell then
I wait for warpath to start up again before using VC to get the flat spell on rav aura and its procced AE
waxen nymph
Oh right
scenic gyro
I wait for warpath to start up again before using VC to get the flat spell on ra...
that sounds abit more fiddly than i bargained for tbh, i thought it was gonna be a one button build afk playsstyle
alpine canopy
Also, at least according to the buff icon, you actually have 2 sec to use VC, not 1 sec like the description says, so it's fairly forgiving
alpine canopy
that sounds abit more fiddly than i bargained for tbh, i thought it was gonna be...
It's somewhat like locust swarm playstyle-wise - do a little combo, then zoom around for a bit, repeat
You can probably get away with not using the warpath more multi (your rav aura will deal 44% less damage) by just really leaning into mana efficiency idols and -5 mana cost slam on the sceptre and spamming VC more often for more AEs to clear better, but still not an afk playstyle
but just popping VC after evade or lunge really isn't bad at all imo
scenic gyro
i think my warpath smiter just completely poisoned the well for me, no matter which class/build i try i think to myself " i could be clearing 3 times as fast with 0 buttons, what am idoing here"
alpine canopy
That's fair, cold locust swarm did that to me, may it rest in peace 
waxen nymph
i think my warpath smiter just completely poisoned the well for me, no matter wh...
What kind did you play?
Void? Fire?
scenic gyro
What kind did you play?
crude matrixBOT
scenic gyro
gear is not done but i burnt out farming, new event will be fun to jump back into
grizzled arrow
the dps for hammer throw nova the listed dps is that only counting 1 of the hammers vs 1 target
as from what i can tell at most 1 hammer its 1 target maybe 2 if you are fighting the rotten dragon
warped night
ouch
I don't have the right exalt yet for my 2lp but I have a feeling mine's gonna hit like that too
hollow skiff
oh boy here we go again
lollll
cobalt blade
I dont know... what to feel about this
turbid dome
thats a lot of attack speed
cobalt blade
Engiiiiiiiii! 
Yea i wanna get more atk spd to increase bleed stack number cuz taste of blood squeezed the stack number very "uglily". Like ~200 into ~19 ugly
But the picture in question is.... the hybrid health didnt go in but dot mit at t4 did.....
It is still some form of defense but.... eeeeeee
My sentences so full of butts
turbid dome
missing the health hurts, but also dot midigation is like premium defense rn
cobalt blade
Its not T5
to farm another 2LP wing guards with higher endu implicit and hopefully higher innate atk spd is also
i guess the T4 is fine as compare to a T5... this wing guards will make do. I shall focus on other gear piece
cobalt blade
On the other hand.... YAY!
turbid dome
Dang, that’s a solid pair of boots
cobalt blade
there goes my valdyr 
I guess you cant hope every slam is gonna be successful in 1 day
oh wow the second slam did the job! 
chilly peak
That's some nice stuff you find recently, Wicked, GG!
blazing grotto
I dont know... what to feel about this
bad. you should feel bad.
waxen nymph
Wicked flexing real hard!
cobalt blade
Wicked flexing real hard!
Its not like I am making 3/4LP with perfect roll though 😆
waxen nymph
viral mesa
Yea i wanna get more atk spd to increase bleed stack number cuz taste of blood s...
ur playing bleed? whats ur weapons pls?
cobalt blade
I admit it does need a few days or a week to slam these right despite just 2LP. Some peepo probably be content with 1 LP or dont go higher corruption that warrants the need of higher LP. I am just somewhere in between
cobalt blade
ur playing bleed? whats ur weapons pls?
^ There are better options for damage tho
i mean more dps-focused weapon
chilly peak
Playing Hammer now for a while on 2 chars, but realized for the first time how crazy big the hitbox of our hammers is 😄 I wonder if someone ever complained about *that * hitbox
turbid dome
Playing Hammer now for a while on 2 chars, but realized for the first time how c...
shush
chilly peak
😬
turbid dome
cobalt blade
warpath hitbox increase when
chilly peak
It is okay
turbid dome
screen wide rive when
chilly peak
Done a bit bossing with my WP Pally since they announced the reset, and I feel the WP Hitbox is just perfect, isn't it?
At least for me it was absolutely intuitive
turbid dome
nah screen wide tornado warpath time
chilly peak
Ah guess we are speaking about different things. I meant literally the "hitbox" when speaking about it. Not the area itself
cobalt blade
gotta be this big as base
turbid dome
the axe looks so comical
chilly peak
Yeah you speak about area. I mean... what are we talking about? 🤷♂️ More area would always be desirable! 
cobalt blade
the axe looks so comical
cobalt blade
Yeah you speak about area. I mean... what are we talking about? 🤷♂️ More area...
Yea.. dont mean to distort from your topic but i had to
chilly peak
All good - as said - we can always agree on asking for some more area! 😄
cobalt blade
🪓<:FrightenedGrole:686631300433444989><:FrightenedGrole2:686655358584094722>
so cute 
turbid dome
Grole knight mastery when
sentinel just mounted on a brave grole, has Kled's mechanic from league of legends
turbid dome
You dare disrespect Kled, Lord Major Admiral of the Second Legion’s forward artillery—cavalry multiplication.”
who also doubles as Kled! High Major Commodore of the First Legion Third Multiplication Double Admiral Artillery Vanguard Company!
cobalt blade
Half of Engi is lost to Kled
turbid dome
nah thats still void
cobalt blade
What about Sentinel riding on Mega Gnar
turbid dome
cobalt blade
We dont talk about Nunu
turbid dome
singed trail in LE would be funny
cobalt blade
We have Fiery Dragon Shoe
chilly peak
We have Fiery Dragon Shoe
The brightest thing a monitor has shown since discord light-mode 😄
waxen nymph
We have Fiery Dragon Shoe
Also Warpath Fire Trail
turbid dome
Also both
chilly peak
HP isn't viable they said...
👀
turbid dome
how thicc art thou
harsh nova
been hunting jade amulets lately to replace omni, found a 3/4 and holy big difference
this junker been better even
burnt kestrel
Yo can some1 send me a nice paladin build ? im still lv 5 but want to know from early,ty
turbid dome
Yo can some1 send me a nice paladin build ? im still lv 5 but want to know from ...
what kind of build do you want to do?
burnt kestrel
Tbh im mostly a pve player and max like small scale pvp
turbid dome
Last epoch has pvp?
I was meaning like melee, caster, any particular skill your interested in using
burnt kestrel
oh bro mb hahahah,i was watching a video got distracted hahahahaah
burnt kestrel
Last epoch has pvp?
I was meaning like melee, caster, any particular skill your...
caster tbh mostly
turbid dome
caster tbh mostly
you can do a warpath that casts smite for you and just vibe through maps
or direct cast smite whichever floats your goat
theres almost certainly more builds but for caster paladin those jump out at me
past nest
Why does the melee class (Sentinel) have the least fun melee skills 
Even Primalist has better melee skills
turbid dome
I'm pretty sure sentinel got all of its skills fairly early on in development
forge guard got a bit of a face lift this past cycle, I'm expecting there to be more changes to the passvies + skills next cycle
past nest
Tfw you remember Vengeance and Multistrike exist
turbid dome
Tfw you remember the skill is called anomaly and not time bubble
past nest
Melee is in such a bad shape in this game, I’m so sad
turbid dome
facts
cobalt blade
you can do a warpath that casts smite for you and just vibe through maps
or dir...
I see warpath
cobalt blade
Melee is in such a bad shape in this game, I’m so sad
#🔱┃sentinel message melee with a big axe but takes alot to get there
hollow skiff
cobalt blade
<:tom:570776954974896128>
Dayum
chilly peak
King for a day!
chilly peak
WP-throw smite ^^ I'm the humble 3rd here 🙂
But once again #1 Pala, at least for now
hollow skiff
King for a day!
can you share your build ?
chilly peak
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Volin/character/AriTribute
Make sure to flag "channeling" and "actual" in the planner
hollow skiff
thanks
chilly peak
If I had it, I would change a few things tho.
Eternal Gauntlets would be good, but I couldn't find a pair yet that I could squeeze in. For Arena probably a 2nd Red Ring could be better and ofc the Relic could be a tad better.
And skill VR for general use. Lunge is just an Arena thing here
waxen nymph
But once again #1 Pala, at least for now
Oh sorry!
Congrats anyway
quiet hearth
<:tom:570776954974896128>
if only they didnt hand out armor shred like candy
opaque grotto
where can I get bas sword of conflagaration for forge guard
if anyone can answer or help me\
tribal crane
where can I get bas sword of conflagaration for forge guard
there is no such sword in the game
opaque grotto
says so on max roll i can't say the full name here coz it censor
tribal crane
uhh, what language you have maxroll on as? because in english theres no such sword in the game
which build guide are you following?
oh you mean this from the leveling guide?
just use whatever 2 handed sword you can get and craft it to the best of your ability, leveling is relatively easy anyway so you don't need to follow items that closely. just have enough hp and leech to sustain
lone verge
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWMOX4Zo
So I really wan to use Palaru's Sacred Light in a late game self cast smite build.
I have above, a void knight version of the build that converts Smites need for Attunement to Vitality, as well as stacking Strength so that I have a ton of flat spell damage from Palaru.
This is a life based build with a small amount (and I do mean small) of ward. I am thinking about replacing Vessel of Strife but the amount of damage I get from it, as well as the small amount of tank is very nice.
I have Max Endurance, almost full cap res, and borderline immunity to crits (reduced damage taken with average roles is 98%. 400 HP regen, which
The issue is that I feel way to squishy with 19k EHP (this is just a theory I haven't put into action yet) and wanna try to get some form of reliable block that won't take away my weapons
Ward Calc for this cycle says I have 1282 ward. Which is why it is 19k not 11
crude matrixBOT
chilly peak
When you say you feel squshy with 19k EHP lets speak first about where are you failing and what do you want to achieve
lone verge
Idk, in my experience, builds that have 19k EHP feel squishy to me.
Then again, any amount of death just feels bad.
chilly peak
19k EHP is not the worst number, you will rarely see builds in the 20s and very rarely in the 30s.
Usually 19k is more then enough to kill Abberoth and deal with quite amount of corruption
lone verge
Hmm.
Either way, do you know any reliable way to get block in there?
I trust you but, like I said, any amount of death feels bad to me.
chilly peak
What corr do you play atm?
lone verge
This build isn't made yet. It's just me putting it together for after I get out of the field on the 13th
chilly peak
Hmm.
Either way, do you know any reliable way to get block in there?
I trust yo...
Won't answer the block question as I feel a lack of experience on VK.
Only can speak about your general defense, and that looks quite solid already if we are speaking about 19kEHP
cobalt blade
Does this mean i have 12k ehp?
lone verge
Fair enough.
And I don't think it's taking into account my healing from Sigils either.
Even though it no longer increases HP regen due to Sigils of Despair node, I still get more healing fro Invigorate
chilly peak
I would almost assume most of your deaths could be more movement related, then defense related. But just a good guess from afar
cobalt blade
I am doing 800c with that number tho, so i assume your 19k is gonna be
chilly peak
Does this mean i have 12k ehp?
I usually refer to non phys here. But ye, 12k for phys
chilly peak
I am doing 800c with that number tho, so i assume your 19k is gonna be <:tom:570...
Thats why I said what I said and asked what I asked ^^
19k is really, a quite beefy def
lone verge
Do you use ward at all wicked
lone verge
Hmm. Alright. Because normally my goal is about 20k so I figured I'd ask
cobalt blade
Then again i could push the corruption probably cuz i mow mobs down fast enough with my warrior fury warpath before i die
lone verge
That makes sense
Hell I think my warcry totem build that I was making with someone a while back had about that amount
cobalt blade
My max hp is 3.7k tho cuz i put all hybrid hp idols
lone verge
Ah. See I feel I need as much damage as possible for this build. But if it turns out damage is in no way an issue I will move it over to health
turbid dome
Anyone have a wacky build for the mid season reset
waxen nymph
Void Beams ?
turbid dome
quiet hearth
Shield Charge echo with Eclipse Horizon
waxen nymph
Event Horizon ?
quiet hearth
that one yes
tribal crane
19k EHP is not the worst number, you will rarely see builds in the 20s and very ...
and here i am with 27k ehp against phys hits feeling like i have low ehp compared to spicorr who made the same build, i just made slight tweaks lol
quiet hearth
wait, I forgot movement skills cant echo, maybe FG then
tribal crane
imo 19k is not that much tbh, and if anything you should look at ehp against one-shots since against hits you just leech instantly to full
tribal crane
wait, I forgot movement skills cant echo, maybe FG then
shield rush can echo thanks to nodes on the skill tree nodes
alpine canopy
It's not real echoing though, you don't need to be a VK and the echo chance stuff doesn't affect it
quiet hearth
Exactly, I meant actual echoes earlier
tribal crane
It's not real echoing though, you don't need to be a VK and the echo chance stuf...
yeah but mechanically it works the same no? like do you repeat the attack yourself?
yeah actual echoes only void cleave can echo as vk from movement skills afaik
quiet hearth
That doesnt matter, because I was thinking of a specific mechanic, I just forgot and didn't specifically spell it out. I bring it up in the name of clear mechanics.
I really wish that Temporal Strike gave you damage for having less AS
chilly peak
and here i am with 27k ehp against phys hits feeling like i have low ehp compare...
But again the question: Where do you struggle, what corr are we talking about here?
waxen nymph
Knowing Spicy, probably around 1k 😅
chilly peak
Even that should be doable with that defense
quiet hearth
I mean, when you get triple what the devs want you to be at, it's kinda it is what it is
chilly peak
One of my Pallys has for sure a lot less and can do 1k.
But also a question of movement patterns, dmg and other mechanics - no question.
I stick with my "19k EHP are a rocksolid def" for now ^^
quiet hearth
does adaptive dmg convert to the skills dmg tags?
tribal crane
But again the question: Where do you struggle, what corr are we talking about he...
no, i dont mean that i struggle, its just spicorr has like 10k more ehp with very little item differences
chilly peak
does adaptive dmg convert to the skills dmg tags?
ye
chilly peak
no, i dont mean that i struggle, its just spicorr has like 10k more ehp with ver...
Yeah, the last mile scales like crazy
tribal crane
single target dps is meh on this build so i just chill at 400corr
quiet hearth
sadly we cant get the lightning tag on SR
honestly we need more conversions in the game
tribal crane
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o381YVRA heres my build if any of yall is interested
crude matrixBOT
chilly peak
single target dps is meh on this build so i just chill at 400corr
Doing the same with my rooster. I can easily farm higher, but that would slow me down too much and is not worth to me.
quiet hearth
I was doing fairly well on a holy flame burst paladin DW the smite sword and aberroths command
chilly peak
But we also speak a different language. If I say I have this and that EHP I would personally refer to my weakest point, not my strongest ^^ 🙂
tribal crane
But we also speak a different language. If I say I have this and that EHP I woul...
yeah i actually have great sustain on this build, can facetank pretty much anything at my current corruption with just half afk. but the dps already feels slow so in 1k i imagine it being a real slog
but both spicorr and iva markova took this build to 1k without a struggle so it's good build. and cursedboy killed aberroth with it so it can do pretty much all content in the game with ease
chilly peak
I wouldn't even feel bad about it, if you can do 1k and kill Abby.
chilly peak
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o381YVRA heres my build if any of yall is...
You should take your build to arena probably. Highest VK is really a low hanging fruit atm
turbid dome
dumb question I've never really thought about, if I have a fire/lightning skill does my half of my adaptive damage become each, so like 50 adaptive becomes 25 fire and 25 lightning
chilly peak
dumb question I've never really thought about, if I have a fire/lightning skill ...
afaik that is how it works, yes
tribal crane
You should take your build to arena probably. Highest VK is really a low hanging...
this is on legacy, on cycle i played shield bash fg and avalanche shaman
turbid dome
afaik that is how it works, yes
ok thats what I assumed, but I never actually looked to see if that was correct
back 2 my pure void dmg hut
tribal crane
You should take your build to arena probably. Highest VK is really a low hanging...
i grinded this to top3 vk with a different build back in beta
quiet hearth
crit werebear DW palarus was honestly the most fun I had I think this cycle
turbid dome
druid is always fun given they get %max health as endurance threshold
quiet hearth
If only movement skills werent buggy AF
turbid dome
if only _______ weren't buggy AF
quiet hearth
mah, movement skills have the crown right now in my experience
turbid dome
fair
tribal crane
infact i was top2 vk, was nr1 for a long while but purplestuff pushed the build further
chilly peak
Holy 1.0 was just a crazy season for sentinels 🥹 (I knew, but realize again and again)
tribal crane
Holy 1.0 was just a crazy season for sentinels 🥹 (I knew, but realize again an...
that's not 1.0 tho what i posted, thats beta
chilly peak
Yeah sure
quiet hearth
Engi, did you ever get around to that Vit smite VK?
tribal crane
oh you were top 3 on 1.0 volin
turbid dome
Engi, did you ever get around to that Vit smite VK?
I gave up after spending 200 ish ascendance runes and grinding the timelife for the unique void staff
tribal crane
healing hands was so busted holy
turbid dome
mostly just waiting for the cycle reset now and playing warframe
quiet hearth
I havent played that game in so long
turbid dome
same, my friend convinced me to play again
chilly peak
oh you were top 3 on 1.0 volin
#1 Pala in 1.0 and currently in 1.1
And seeing your screenshot made me realize once again how crazy 1.0 was
quiet hearth
I just cant support the devs canning accounts
turbid dome
and the first thing I saw was a 50% coupon and a fancy outfit for my favorite frame
tribal crane
I gave up after spending 200 ish ascendance runes and grinding the timelife for ...
omnividence?
turbid dome
yeah
tribal crane
#1 Pala in 1.0 and currently in 1.1
And seeing your screenshot made me realize ...
yeah healing hands carried so hard
chilly peak
amen
turbid dome
warding hands*
tribal crane
hmm, i have 6 omnividences in my stash, maybe i should egg them
turbid dome
according to trunklab you get 1 or 2 omnividences per 100 runes of ascendance
luck just isn't with me
quiet hearth
Im the same way with that freaking squirrel helm
turbid dome
hearld of the scurry goes brrr
tribal crane
omnividence is way lower droprate than herald
tribal crane
i'm mg simply because i enjoy trading more than lootsplosions, got enough of them in borderlands back in the day
quiet hearth
I just have the worst luck and dont have the time to sink to farm certain things like I used to back in the day
turbid dome
Endurance threshold thought: What if endurance threshold was split into 4 sections, so like with 100 hp
100-75 hp, no endurance effect
75-50 hp, endurance % * .33 (so 90% endurance becomes 30%)
50-25 hp, endurance % * .66 (so 90% endurance becomes 60%)
25-0 hp, endurance % *1 (so 90% endurance is 90% endurance, but the cap is 60, so it becomes 60% endurance)
This also encourages getting more than 60% endurance, tho the numbers for how much endurance % we get from items would probably need to be changed
quiet hearth
remove threshold entirely, endurance now just protects X amount of HP instead.
turbid dome
how is x amount of HP determined
quiet hearth
endurance just covers X percent for 20% now.
turbid dome
ah
quiet hearth
Then use that space to put stuff in the tree to increase the dmg reduction granted.
turbid dome
so endurance% is for how much hp it protects, then you can also get like increased endurance effect to make the DR bigger
quiet hearth
yes
turbid dome
🤔
quiet hearth
No more flat numbers and math, just % like everything else
gusty abyss
Anyone else found that when using Aberroth's command, Void Cleave no longer echoes?
quiet hearth
Known bug
turbid dome
get a ton of block effectiveness, then get that 👍
cobalt blade
turbid dome
actual math? let me go do math
opaque grotto
Hey all, Can anyone help me understand the mechanics in the game? I'm honestly just equipping dumb gear that i don't know if its for me or not. And following guides like max roll is just weird to me and seeing how their armor on the screen is .. i'm level 53 forge guard
turbid dome
Hey all, Can anyone help me understand the mechanics in the game? I'm honestly j...
mechanics in general? defense mechanics?
turbid dome
I just saw such affix exists
my gut says whenever you hit a soft cap/hard cap on block effectiveness, get that because flat dr will have a bigger impact then
opaque grotto
mechanics in general describing the armor for builds. Like I am a forge guard and I don't know what to equip and the passives. I just click and go for it
cobalt blade
I have T7 block eff and T5 all resist in planner
now that i know such affix exist, wouldn't it be better than all resist?
it is effectively another DR?
opaque grotto
i'm 75% fire cap and physical resis capped
turbid dome
ok I'm trying to think where to start, are you familair with last epoch tools (website)
opaque grotto
i went with axe because it says it has more bleed damage
I am a little bit but not 100%
Does it show you what armor you need to build with each different mastery class you pick for each character?
turbid dome
go into the build planner -> import your character -> share the link here
opaque grotto
okay hold on
turbid dome
this will let me see what exactly your character is so I can help a lot faster
cobalt blade
So nice of you Engi
opaque grotto
here is my link https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
waxen nymph
Nope
turbid dome
ya need to hit the save/share button @opaque grotto
opaque grotto
oops lol
cobalt blade
Vladdddddddd
turbid dome
Vladddddddd
opaque grotto
crude matrixBOT
waxen nymph
cobalt blade
how is that compared to block effectiveness?
Vlad, how do you prioritize block eff, reduced damage taken on block, and all resist
add whichever is lower?
turbid dome
try now https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4DdqYaB
quick glance so far, this doesn't seem that bad. First recommendations
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Block chance on the tree is fairly easy to grab, this will help your defense a fair amount
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Vitality is a strong defensive stat because its a prefix and not a suffix
cobalt blade
I have to go T7 block eff to barely reach 5k block eff
chilly peak
Block Eff and reduced dmg don't exclude each other, or? 😄
waxen nymph
I have to go T7 block eff to barely reach 5k block eff
How much %Effect does it gives you?
opaque grotto
I also can't beat this Laggon boss right now
turbid dome
thats cause your cold + lightning resistances aren't capped
opaque grotto
idk what armor to get and it will decrease my other stats if i swap them.
the gambler gives me junk
turbid dome
you can also spec into rebuke for the fight and take the "Brave the elements" node to not die to mr lagon while rebuking
quiet hearth
Nah, he hits stupid hard even then.
cobalt blade
How much %Effect does it gives you?
you mean this? 5k block eff is 70% block mitigation
chilly peak
i can only imagine this boss on hardcore mode
He makes you sweat, tested for you, Sir
waxen nymph
you mean this? 5k block eff is 70% block mitigation
%Reduced Dmg on Block is a suffix so you can have Block Effect and Reduced dmg
turbid dome
you do barely have any health on your gear, if you can get more flat life on things by crafting
opaque grotto
So, should I sell my armor i have equipped and go to the gambler ?
turbid dome
never sell your equipped gear until you have the replacement
I'd personally just run around the zones leading up to lagon and see what drops
waxen nymph
%Reduced Dmg on Block is a suffix so you can have Block Effect and Reduced dmg
I would go Block Effect then Reduced Dmg (because it rolls lower anyway) and then whatever you need. All res, Endurance, HP
opaque grotto
blood is damage effect?
waxen nymph
try now https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4DdqYaB
Btw you are lvl. 54 and haven't specced into your last 2'skills
opaque grotto
oh oops i didn't even notice
cobalt blade
blood is damage effect?
Bleed is a damage over time. When I started in 1.0 i was very confused. I thought since i am going typical melee dmg, bleed helps? then i learned Dot damage cant crit
waxen nymph
you mean this? 5k block eff is 70% block mitigation
At 70% you are entering hard in the flat portion of the curve, not really worth pushing much higher imo
cobalt blade
then you would typically focus on hit build which you can crit or you focus dot build, not both at the same time
cobalt blade
At 70% you are entering hard in the flat portion of the curve, not really worth ...
Yea, thats what I thought as well. So i aimed at 5k
turbid dome
Soft cap -> get flat
cobalt blade
turbid dome
): void staff for void wizard
waxen nymph
Crit Sceptre + Blade of the Forgotten Knight?
turbid dome
Nah staff for wizard
waxen nymph
Wand/Sceptre + Shield?
turbid dome
Or maybe celestial doom + some of the gasper set for void knight wizard
waxen nymph
That's staff has become quite weak imo
waxen nymph
Gaspar Set 😵
I tried really hard multiple times to do smth with it
Maybe with Palarus it could be good
turbid dome
Celestial doom + part of gasper set might work but ima go check which spell types each gasper set triggers
waxen nymph
Only one Sentinel can't trigger is the Cold one
cobalt blade
do peepo go over 100 gazes trying to farm boss unique
waxen nymph
Celestial doom + part of gasper set might work but ima go check which spell type...
Since you are using that staff you can only use the lightning trigger
heavy nymph
do peepo go over 100 gazes trying to farm boss unique <:tom:570776954974896128>
I have around 300 for Rayeh timeline lol
harsh nova
do peepo go over 100 gazes trying to farm boss unique <:tom:570776954974896128>
easily
especially if u want 2/3lp
harsh nova
you get them back when you use them so they go pretty far
harbingers drop 2 most of the time, and then when running nemesis you'll make up the rest u use
cobalt blade
harbingers drop 2 most of the time, and then when running nemesis you'll make up...
oof thats quite true.. I pickup 0 LP from the boss, so i have to run nemesis alot
quiet hearth
I do not like the envy glyphs, it feels like a bandaid fix
harsh nova
for people that wanna farm high lp it's basically the only option
ur time investment goes up pretty significantly otherwise
chilly peak
you get them back when you use them so they go pretty far
you can half them usually, something around that
harsh nova
i've floated between 100-200 for like 10 days of spamming for worldsplitters, when running nemesis with my 0lps ill make up the rest
turbid dome
Since you are using that staff you can only use the lightning trigger
dang I was hoping the hat was fire
quiet hearth
Doesnt change what I said at all, if anything it highlights it. They need to just rework mono progressing to be slower and can be accessed by all characters. Also chasing high LP is an exercise in futility with these drop rates.
harsh nova
world splitter is like 1/200 for a 2lp it's not futility at all
there's plenty of drops that are within reason, but only with glyphs of envy
quiet hearth
That's not high LP either, 3 or 4 is high, but that is more of a me thing honestly.
chilly peak
Yeah, Envys made my 2lp Argentus possible
harsh nova
3/4lp timeline boss loot is by design a total pipedream
quiet hearth
Which is a problem
harsh nova
nobody specifically is farming for those, at best 2 lp and they get lucky
ehg is okay with "something potentially happening" they don't want people to reliably farm 3/4 lp of RV ect
harsh nova
1-2 are farmable 3-4 are extremely lucky
cobalt blade
personally, I feel nemesis & egg, orobyss corruption catch-up mechanic, and Envy glyphs are the best thing this cycle
quiet hearth
Then it shouldnt be an option, dont put something in that is essentially impossible, and on some items 3 or 4 lp is statistically impossible.
tight jolt
People do thousands of Kurast runs for a single high rune when you need 5-6 for a single item. Think the entire genre is predicated on chasing abysmal drop rates
harsh nova
they want hail marry once in a lifetime pieces in the game, they aren't going to make 4lp ravenous void able to get reliably because even as a 1lp it's disproportionally stronger than other items that need high lp to be relevant. lp is not a linear thing in the game it's based on how strong an item is for a reason
quiet hearth
And that is terrible design philosophy. Lets make something that even super players may never see. If an item breaks because of LP, then you need to revisit the item itself, not the system.
tight jolt
If you make 3-4 LP consistently attainable, you have to balance around that. Those items should be things that make you stand out, not the baseline. Imo, at least
harsh nova
with trade you'll see them, just like in other games like d2. if u want to solo farm a cham it's an insane time investment.
turbid dome
prism wrap moment
harsh nova
CoF shouldn't be able to get 3/4 lp. MG gets plenty tho
quiet hearth
If you have to balance around trade, then you've already done something wrong
harsh nova
trade is one of the biggest draws to gear games, saying to not balance around it is silly
turbid dome
trade will always be stronger than cof, having access to 3 times the drops can never be better than having access to 100000 times the drops
quiet hearth
Let me introduce you to GD, which has been making getting epic loot reasonable for years now
harsh nova
you can have different game design philosphys
not every game has to trivialize the best items in the game
quiet hearth
Nothing I have said trivializes anything, that is utter hyperbole.
harsh nova
making 3/4 lp reliable is trivializing them
gusty abyss
trade will always be stronger than cof, having access to 3 times the drops can n...
This does depend on demand, meta items will still have value, off meta is basically free xD
harsh nova
that makes getting them mean next to nothing, it's not a hype moment it's an expected moment and then 1-2lp are utter trash
quiet hearth
I didnt say reliable, I said obtainable.
harsh nova
same thing quite literally
quiet hearth
No, it does not, that is a terrible mindset around loot in general.
harsh nova
if i can reasonably obtain something that means i can reliably make a farming method for it.
quiet hearth
You shouldn't need hundreds or thousands of hours to obtain an item in any form.
tribal crane
Maybe with Palarus it could be good
gaspar sceptre+palarus smite vk, but don't convert smite to void
harsh nova
disagree
turbid dome
This does depend on demand, meta items will still have value, off meta is basica...
true, my point was more when comparing the two, a cof players gets extra drops, whereas a merchants guild player sorta has access to the drops all other merchant guild players get
also for the love of Eterra, getting idols is so much nicer on merchants guild
quiet hearth
Feel free too, still incorrect. People have lives to live, not grinding hours in games.
harsh nova
ehg core game deisgn is otherwise, so it's not happening here lol
turbid dome
given the rough goal is 300 corruption, I don't think 3/4 lp is needed
harsh nova
^
tribal crane
gaspar sceptre+palarus smite vk, but don't convert smite to void
well actually can do this with the armor aswell with converting smite to lightning
quiet hearth
I never said anything about needed either.
harsh nova
ehg cares about people getting strong 1lps and finishing aberoth at best
anything beyond a 1-2 lp isn't needed in any slot
so to have chase items is perfectly fine by design
turbid dome
I kinda like the current lp drop rates as it does make for an interesting choice, weaker unique with 3lp or a big strong unique with 1 or 2 lp
quiet hearth
They really dont lol, there is a reason it's called pinnacle challenge content. and if you NEED lp, then that is a whole other pile. Also, no one is saying not to have chase items.
turbid dome
instead of just defaulting to the bestest one
harsh nova
just like the dreamthorne we were levelling the other day, you can RELIABLY get 3 lp on that item and it did just as good as my 2lp apathy maw
gusty abyss
the game just needs to double up on uniques a couple times, then the 3lp weaker vs 1 lp strong becomes more of a choice
tight jolt
given the rough goal is 300 corruption, I don't think 3/4 lp is needed
The goal being 300 corruption is weird to me since they spot you 100 for just running empowered. Pretty easy to bump 30-40 corruption at a time
gusty abyss
there currently are not nearly enough uniques for there to really be a choice
turbid dome
The goal being 300 corruption is weird to me since they spot you 100 for just ru...
thats just going off of what I remember a dev qna saying
tight jolt
But then again I've never done a 300 corruption echo so I don't know how hard that is
harsh nova
it's not hardd
quiet hearth
That is entirely subjective
harsh nova
level ur character to 95 and ur cookin 300c
i was doing 500c at like lvl 90 lol, but that's not the norm
tight jolt
thats just going off of what I remember a dev qna saying
Yeah, I'm just talking about the numbers. Starting at 1/3 to "done" is a weird idea.
harsh nova
aberoth is much harder than anything you'll fight on 300c, so the actual target is higher
turbid dome
I think a big part of this discussion is that a LOT of power in last epoch comes from the skill trees + passive tress currently, depending on what build your doing this can and will make some things feel horrible until you get to x gear level
quiet hearth
It's not, aberoth is literal aspirational content, it's not meant for most builds
harsh nova
rive skill points for instance are insane damage per point, the difference in +2 and +4 is 30% dps
turbid dome
Yeah, I'm just talking about the numbers. Starting at 1/3 to "done" is a weird i...
thats fair, tho I'd wager the dev's idea of hitting 300 being the goal for most builds is including regular monos
harsh nova
yeah ur regular mono climb is the 1-100
tight jolt
I think a big part of this discussion is that a LOT of power in last epoch comes...
I was just about to say, I haven't really worried about my gear at all and am not struggling much at 170ish. There are times where I stack mods too much and get blasted, but generally I just have to dodge poison and I'm fine
turbid dome
I was just about to say, I haven't really worried about my gear at all and am no...
overcapping poison res is always good (given each poison stack removes poison res), also is your crit defense capped
harsh nova
monos aren't meant to be super challenging, they are the farming content
quiet hearth
paying attention to mods is key honestly
tight jolt
overcapping poison res is always good (given each poison stack removes poison re...
Capped? I don't know that I even have double digit crit avoid/reduc
cobalt blade
paying attention to mods is key honestly
enemies have a chance to dodge
turbid dome
Capped? I don't know that I even have double digit crit avoid/reduc <:omegalul:5...
bro please go put on a leo hat
quiet hearth
~~enemies have a chance to dodge~~
I just run blindly and sometimes wonder why Im doing half damage
turbid dome
get this with the affix for reduced dmg taken from crits plz
harsh nova
but then you can't run peak! 
quiet hearth
They really need to up the other bases to be competitive with that thing
tight jolt
get this with the affix for reduced dmg taken from crits plz
None are dropping for me 😭
cobalt blade
I just run blindly and sometimes wonder why Im doing half damage
big dmg skill whiff
turbid dome
you can make an argument for the terror crown for vk, especially if your doing phys rive
quiet hearth
big dmg skill *whiff*
it's hell on dot builds too lol
harsh nova
super nice in erasing strike
turbid dome
ye
harsh nova
there's also a CD multi helm
quiet hearth
Terror crown is the only one remotely close, but leonine just having 80% of a must have resource is stupidly good.
turbid dome
so lil armor tho
harsh nova
peak has 110 😆
turbid dome
peak also gives you an unethical amount of crit chance
gusty abyss
peak removes leech, I can't on any life build
cobalt blade
wears woven flesh for the rest of your time
harsh nova
for rive u just run the don't crit on 1-2 node
turbid dome
peak with crit rive, your first two swings can't crit -> get leech
harsh nova
or healing hands can heal u still
turbid dome
healing hands ❤️
quiet hearth
When they actually rework that skill its gonna be a sad day to have to choose what it does lol
turbid dome
a healing hands a swing, keeps the void corruption at bay
cobalt blade
If only WP can HH
quiet hearth
I think it should, even if at reduced eff or just a chance per second
cobalt blade
^
turbid dome
give healing hands a node that casts healing hands centered on yourself ever 4/3/2/1 seconds while channeling a channel skill
quiet hearth
Warpath is another that needs a rework. I want all sides of that tree to be as good as the void side
turbid dome
man I was sad before this cycle seeing every forgeguard build not using forgeguard skills
quiet hearth
it is pretty funny lol
cobalt blade
harsh nova
perry made a pretty sick spear build with forge strike
turbid dome
more spear support would be sick
harsh nova
spears are stupid weak for sure
quiet hearth
that too
harsh nova
he used the unique that has a bunch of flat melee on it, the green one
gusty abyss
imagine if forge strike could be converted to a throwing attack so it actually aligns with jav scaling
quiet hearth
I dont think spears are weak in and of themselves, it's the skills they support aren't that great
harsh nova
yeah the bases are fine
turbid dome
I'd do a spear build if using a spear made rive be 3 forward thrusts
harsh nova
axes are wayyyyy strong in VK especially
alpine canopy
Spears are not quite so bad now since the +5% flat crit got added to them in 1.1
harsh nova
problem is crit isn't an issue for builds it wasn't really a useful buff
turbid dome
looks at the node that gives flat void per vitality on rive
looks at how much vk is encouraged to vitality stack
looks at apathy's maw and world splitter
harsh nova
world splitter for instane giving you like 60 rate on a weapon
quiet hearth
Change weapon specialist to dmg with spears per dex
turbid dome
side note: can we have attunement give something more than +2 mana
quiet hearth
RIP mana efficiency
tight jolt
Remove all weapon type affiliated bonuses from passive trees, add new weapon mastery tree so you can really spec into a weapon type regardless of your class/mastery
turbid dome
also like I understand that mana is suppose to be mostly limited, but can we get like +1 base mana regen per 25 attunement
quiet hearth
I think it giving regen instead of flat would be better
turbid dome
how much % tho
quiet hearth
1%, at 100 Attunement gives double base regen essentially, but not a bigger pool.
alpine canopy
Maybe 1%
turbid dome
that sounds so bad compared to every other stat still
quiet hearth
Better than it is currently imo, what else is it gonna give? DoT dmg reduction? xD
turbid dome
gusty abyss
If sentinel got damge taken from mana support...
quiet hearth
There's a hat for that
turbid dome
I know this image is for hunt showdown, but don't forget you can put images into the steam overlay note box if you don't want to alt tab to check stuff
quiet hearth
Do you not have two screens exile?
gusty abyss
No like one of those threshold points on one of the paladin attunement passives
turbid dome
Do you not have two screens exile?
I got two screens, tho my second monitor is normally my friends stream
quiet hearth
get a third
harsh nova
If sentinel got damge taken from mana support...
seed gives this doesn't it
turbid dome
get a third
but my third monitor has my teams on it and I can't put something over that cause then it detects me as not working
harsh nova
or is it the chest
quiet hearth
I mean, the pally attunement nodes already get pretty decent riders
then get a fourth
gusty abyss
A generic unique is not giving a class support for a certain mechanic...
turbid dome
then get a fourth
not enough desk space
quiet hearth
get a vertical stack stand, come on now
harsh nova
A generic unique is not giving a class support for a certain mechanic...
that's like saying world splitter isn't support for erasing strike
gusty abyss
If attunement must give mana, give the attunement classes a way to turn it into defense baseline
cobalt blade
Get a monitor to monitor monitor
turbid dome
get a vertical stack stand, come on now
imagine thinking that my monitors are all the same size and not looted from places I've worked that are throwing away old monitors
harsh nova
you guys have monitors? i play on my fridge
quiet hearth
duct tape then
turbid dome
my desk already looks like chatoic evil
quiet hearth
lawful evil xD
cobalt blade
u playing tetris with your monitors?
turbid dome
at one point, yes
harsh nova
lawful good 🐒
tight jolt
Node that gives increased echo chance and/or damage per attunement, but echoes beyond the first cost mana. Attunement also provides 0.5% mana regen per point. 🤔
turbid dome
I turned my monitors + desktops into a breakout game
quiet hearth
Node that gives increased echo chance and/or damage per attunement, but echoes b...
in half I tell you
turbid dome
if I had 120% echo chance would that be a guarnateed echo + 20% for a second echo, like it is with ignite chance and stuff
so basically any more echo chance and echo rive is now even more BIS
harsh nova
dual wield t7 attack speed gogo 🐒
cobalt blade
quiet hearth
engi irl
cobalt blade
you guys have monitors? i play on my fridge
thats free cooler
turbid dome
Me, Myself, I, Yours Truely RIVING THROUGH THE WORLD
gusty abyss
When?
quiet hearth
never
gusty abyss
warpath needs buttons to press 😦
quiet hearth
Hmm, I wonder if I should use flame drinkers blade to eat all my ignite stacks for more bleed pen on the stupid ruby fang build
Why? That is literally the gimmic, you dont press other buttons, but you can use abberoths and VC with it
turbid dome
new warpath node: Musical Spin
hit the evade button to the beat of the music while channeling warpath for % more damage or move speed or something
gusty abyss
Why? That is literally the gimmic, you dont press other buttons, but you can use...
Because a more active playstyle should exist, and it shouldnt be pigeon holed into void dot
quiet hearth
It isnt pigeon holed at all tho
zenith glade
my desk already looks like chatoic evil
…mines not here
turbid dome
…mines not here
make it in ms paint
zenith glade
Gonna have to
austere coral
When?
I remember on roadmap that for 1.4 "skill sigils" are planned and it looked like extra nodes on skill tree, maybe it'll be it?
quiet hearth
It's a shame world splitter doesnt work with warpath, gimme big circle
turbid dome
use the node that makes it cost more and more mana
quiet hearth
Dont think that works, and that node is terrible
gusty abyss
world splitter is on mana cost, not channel cost
turbid dome
ye
hollow beacon
yoo question what the fastes way to farm world spliter ?
quiet hearth
Merchants Guild
turbid dome
if your not merchants guild, kill the harby of hatred (black sun timeline) fast using the glyphs to juice your time's stability
its a 10% chance (up to 22% chance based on corruption) to get one to drop from the harby
hollow beacon
ehh i just start leauge and i have problem to kill that harby while is empowerd
turbid dome
its kill the harby, kill the pinnacle boss, or buy it from merchants guild
you can't get it from anywhere else
turbid dome
yeah its a boss drop item, you can only get it from said boss(es)
hollow beacon
aight
turbid dome
rune of acendent also not work ?
doesn't work for boss drops
quiet hearth
Which is silly, it should be the most reliable way to get them but come on
hollow beacon
i tought so
turbid dome
you can always check the item on last epoch tools for where to get it (if not buying on merchants guild)
hollow beacon
i know
i saw that but i tought its more ways
idk how to boost my dmg on vk erasing strike to just one shot that mf
gusty abyss
Well, CoF buff would still multiply that
turbid dome
idk how to boost my dmg on vk erasing strike to just one shot that mf
can't go wrong with an apathy's maw
hollow beacon
Whats the best guide for vk erasing strike ? cuz i never play melee in last epoch i idk how to path
hollow beacon
can't go wrong with an apathy's maw
its better thaen shadow beacon ?
turbid dome
slap your build in here
turbid dome
its better thaen shadow beacon ?
shadow is good too, I like maw more cause I bring rive with on my erasing strike build
plus you just kinda just end up with a lot of 2lp maws for slammin'
sad thing with world splitter tho is you can get a 2lp one, but if it doesn't roll 0.5 flat crit its not really worth it (assuming your doing 100% crit chance perma bonk)
hollow beacon
crude matrixBOT
hollow beacon
@Engi (Void Gang) so if u can help a little bit with build and make that sh*t work i will be glad
turbid dome
let me take a look
first things first, you need a better helmet + armor base
your crit defense is almost capped, but you don't want both (Crit avoid or reduced bonus damage from crits)
I'd recommend more health, vitality can help there especially cause it gives you %more melee void dmg
for body armor, I'd recommend the champion regalia or apocalypse plate with vitality, flat life and % life (champ is better defense, apoyclapse is better damage)
get your resistances elsewhere
as for helmets, Leonine greathelm can cover your entire crit defense, freeing up affixes elsewhere on your build, or terror crown can boost your dmg and health
not having 10 points in eternal form (vk passive tree) hurts, don't forget vitality gives you %more melee dmg
hollow beacon
hmm okey i thinks thats a lot of help. And do you think its good to farm shattered chains ?
turbid dome
chain is a great belt, just make sure you have a way to apply doom (another great way to boost your melee dmg)
hollow beacon
i have ring so its enoought ?
turbid dome
chain boosts doom, but doesnt have a way to apply doom
wait nvm, ring is good for that
hollow beacon
😛
turbid dome
hey I'm allowed to mix things up
hollow beacon
ofc
turbid dome
also make sure your upgrading your idols, like this one is a fairly easy one to replace, especially given your overcapped on void res, and +1 vit is a min roll
I personally keep every/most idols I find and just dump them into my stash, so when I regear I have an easy time fixing my resistances if one ends up being too low
void flux (vk passive tree) is also a good spot to throw a random skill point into, it saves my life a shocking amount of the time
hollow beacon
thank you so much
turbid dome
No problemo
For looks, this is the body armor my vk used for a while, it adds a fat amount of hp
I think this is the most generically good vk armor I’ve ever made
turbid dome
Your passives are solid, I’d just put 10 points into enternal form and 8 points into fearless, because vk loves vitality
I did a perma bonk vk without grabbing the nodes in forge guard so I’m unsure what you can drop from forge guard to get more points
hollow beacon
i can also take them out i just follow some guid
if i unpesc that where to puth them
put
turbid dome
I’d follow the guide, I’m at work so I’m not terribly free to make a build
Tho you might want to throw a point or two into the erasing strike node for a bigger mana cost
hollow beacon
sure sorry for taking yr time 😛
turbid dome
Nah your good, I’m sitting here waiting for my boss to approve something for the last week
hollow beacon
Tho you might want to throw a point or two into the erasing strike node for a bi...
hastened catalysm ?
turbid dome
hastened catalysm ?
yeah, a bigger mana cost means more flat crit from world splitter + more dmg from crushing blows
opaque grotto
anyone wanna help me get better armor ? I'm trying to solo bosses but i can't coz i suck at what i'm doing
opaque grotto
EVERY SINGLE TIME. I try to find an build for my forge guard I end up getting end game content
quiet hearth
Because leveling is pretty much get armor and resist and that's all you need. For most things just take off LP or nemmy stuff and there you go.
opaque grotto
This is my armor https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4DdqYaB
crude matrixBOT
opaque grotto
i arlready specc'd so ignore that part
quiet hearth
you have really low hp
opaque grotto
yah idk what i'm doing
quiet hearth
For levelling just go by this, do you do enough damage? Then build defense, do you feel tanky? build damage then.
But Max resistances, get HP, and enough dmg to feel comfy and you'll be fine
opaque grotto
No i don't feel tanky. I feel squishy
turbid dome
and dont forget to shatter gear that have affixes you want
opaque grotto
So, should I just farm for new gear?
turbid dome
thats the main way of getting new gear
opaque grotto
no questing?
quiet hearth
set up a loot filter with what you want, and honestly I wouldnt worry with shattering unless it's something you really want like +skill lvl until you start seeing purple
Go to monos once you get all your idols and passive points from the story
opaque grotto
i'm only 54
quiet hearth
monos are only lvl 58
turbid dome
no questing?
quests give you passive skill points
opaque grotto
how do you get keys for them or are they rng
turbid dome
rng, once you start doing monos they drop a lot more than in campaign
quiet hearth
you dont need keys for monos
opaque grotto
monos are at end time place?
quiet hearth
yep, run to the right and talk to the lady and she lets you in.
turbid dome
oh whoops yea no keys for monos
quiet hearth
had me thinking there was something I had missed
turbid dome
lol I read how do you get keys for them and my brain auto read them as dungeons
quiet hearth
gods can you imagine needing keys for each mono?
supple iris
I haven't really played since before 1.0... How are VKs fairing as far as speed clearing and general pushing? Particularly before you get gear (aka the super lucky crit maw). I've always liked VK, but they always felt so... meh, from a meta standpoint.
turbid dome
I haven't really played since before 1.0... How are VKs fairing as far as speed ...
you can infinite bonk with erasing strike with the new world splitter
supple iris
Need to get teh world splitter first tho? Which I guess is fine, I can farm it on my Falconer...
turbid dome
for infinite bonk yeah, but until then you can do a more regular erasing strike vk (or get it on your flaconer)
just make sure you get one with 0.5 flat crit per mana
supple iris
Are VKs still weirdly squishy? Or have they balance updated them at all?
turbid dome
vitality stacking works well, vk gets +2 max hp per vitality and 1% more melee void dmg per 3 vit
sentinel as a whole is weirdly squishy, the forge guard tree has dot defense on it now tho (its based on attunement so not that useful for vk)
the leo helmet also exists so at least crit defense is easy
void ageis is still good, and the 1 point panic yeet passive is still good too
harsh nova
Are VKs still weirdly squishy? Or have they balance updated them at all?
they are fine really, i have almost 20k ehp on mine
jovial beacon
I'm currently leveling casually through monoliths, only lvl 77 but opinions on my build thus far?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o38ldNEA
crude matrixBOT
turbid dome
I'm currently leveling casually through monoliths, only lvl 77 but opinions on m...
cap one of these (reduced bonus dmg taken is easier for sentinel to cap)
get life on your gear (flat and %), aim for 2k life
tribal crane
I'm currently leveling casually through monoliths, only lvl 77 but opinions on m...
craft your body armor or get better piece asap, it has t1s on it.
and you're at 77 you should already have few pieces of exalted possibly, some of those uniques are not that good especially for your build
cobalt blade
new warpath node: Musical Spin
hit the evade button to the beat of the music wh...
Spinner bard?
turbid dome
Spinner bard? <:POG:799783247121743883>
sure why not
cobalt blade
not with world splitter, just use that node
I use both
turbid dome
I use both <:Bee:889980256331628564>
based
cobalt blade
Not many peepo likes Warrior's Fury 
Like not many mentions it. The last video on YT about it is from dreadful like in 0.8.4 or something
turbid dome
like its fun and cool, but good luck sustaining mana
cobalt blade
More reduced cost! But also ramp up the mana faster so i can VR and recover mana fully
The cycle never ends!
Eventually becomes a sitting 🦆 waiting for mana regen if you dont kill the boss by the 3rd or 4th loop
Why is mana regen so scarced 
turbid dome
alpine canopy
No need for warrior's fury when we have locust swarm
cobalt blade
Hax insect
lethal gorge
Just killed 1st aberoth with my first LVL 100 char warpath vk ask me anything
cobalt blade
Just killed 1st aberoth with my first LVL 100 char warpath vk ask me anything
I see Warpath
lethal gorge
Love me the spin, love me the win
quiet hearth
Im still salty that the serpent strike node isnt just baked into bugman like swipe is for bearman
quiet hearth
and on top of that SS is just..well, it's something
waxen nymph
It gives nice dodge
alpine canopy
The cull is pretty nice
gusty abyss
cull lost so much power in 1.1, now that 75% of a bosses health is ward instead of life.
turbid dome
cull should proc on the bursts of ward
so like with 20% cull, if you hit the boss to under 20% of their ward, all the ward goes away
quiet hearth
Im not really a fan of the ward thing
turbid dome
I like it more than a hidden DR buff
quiet hearth
They have the same EHP though, so literally nothing changed
turbid dome
same EHP, I like having the visual feedback of the boss effectively having 5 health bars
I don't like oops I did too much damage now I do less damage
quiet hearth
IT works, I just hate how bandaid it feels. All it did was highlight player power is nuts right now.
turbid dome
both DR and ward bursts are bandaids, but the ward burst is a cool spiderman bandaid so I like it more
quiet hearth
The ward one is worse for those who dont have the dps, it doesnt go away nearly fast enough
turbid dome
It should go away faster
quiet hearth
But I'd prefer them to reign in player power before doing it
turbid dome
true
tight jolt
Why is Javelin 's added damage efficiency lower than everything else's 😢
turbid dome
Why is Javelin 's added damage efficiency lower than everything else's 😢
180% throwing damage effectiveness is good for a throwing skill, plus unlike every other throwing skill it can get damage from your weapon
tight jolt
Actually I guess it's higher than the others in its class, except Void Cleave.
I just realized I was looking at mastery skills. That's not bad. I guess it means you get a lot from flat throwing damage values
turbid dome
with jav you get flat from all the normal throwing flat damage sources (rings, relic, gloves, belt, amulet) and then 50% of the flat damage on your spear (both implicit and flat melee from affixes)
the real problem with jav to me is that sentinel barely has any spear support
cerulean sorrel
Hi guys I’ve just got the game and I’m playing sentinel, I don’t know which mastery to choose and which build to go with, any good builds with guides you’d recommend?
chilly peak
Biased Pally player here, guess I should probably not answer 🤭
turbid dome
Hi guys I’ve just got the game and I’m playing sentinel, I don’t know which mast...
what kind of skill do you want to use? big bonk? minions? magic?
cerulean sorrel
Biased Pally player here, guess I should probably not answer 🤭
Haha it was between that and void knight, I found some guide for void knight so I went with that
cerulean sorrel
what kind of skill do you want to use? big bonk? minions? magic?
Whirlwind spin to win incoming
chilly peak
WP Beste!
turbid dome
just make sure that with VK warpath you read how warpath echos
chilly peak
Sentinel leveling guide: Take Warpath and Palarus and have a blast!
quiet hearth
Yeah it's pretty hard to mess up void WP, free 75 flat dmg
cerulean sorrel
Thank you guys!
quiet hearth
I think I have one more crazy build idea before the reset to test
turbid dome
Uh oh
quiet hearth
Ruby Fang EQ beastmaster
turbid dome
quiet hearth
because primalist isnt allowed to have basic fire skills for some reason
turbid dome
looks at entire timeline about primalists worshiping fire -> hmmm
turbid dome
just the max mana one according to LETOOLS
quiet hearth
bleh, I cant hit the min mana regen to just stomp out eq
Yeah not really viable, I need like a t7 mana regen in every slot
turbid dome
I understand that ward gained when your hit is great against mobs of small enemies but like why do these both come from lagon, max hit > ehp
the two ward decay threshold blessings are fun to stack, tho I'd still probs grab the ward per second one from lagon
quiet hearth
I mean, just what you said, one is for mobbing, one is for bossing
I really gotta remember blessings, I always forget how dumb some of them are
turbid dome
my point is more that 30 ward when hit isn't going to do anything once your in empowered monos
even against a mob of lil dudes
quiet hearth
It's roughly equal to hp on block. It's not bad, it's just not good. (honestly we all know it's just there to force you to redo the timeline to get what you want)
waxen nymph
Yeah not really viable, I need like a t7 mana regen in every slot
You could use a Spriggan Form Mana Battery
quiet hearth
Cant be in a form sadly
turbid dome
can't you use spriggan form like focus
turbid dome
a shield using runemaster who uses both ward and health so when I block something I gain more hp and ward then I loose
more so an excuse to use Moenia Mentis
quiet hearth
I know this would work on Rogue too, but I cannot stand how frail leveling is
also weirdly enough beastmaster gets stupidly good dot nodes
turbid dome
doesnt beast master double as the just melee hit stuff mastert for primalist
quiet hearth
it really do, but getting 120% bleed pen, and another 40% poison pen is stronk
turbid dome
ye
quiet hearth
I do wish we were getting some balance changes in the reset
maybe I should rework potion man build
turbid dome
give me more ways to regen mana
quiet hearth
I do agree with that, make it conditional, because I do understand mana being a resource to actually manage vs an afterthough like so many others
turbid dome
I still want something for vk that lets you keep slammin' when at negative mana with some kind of a downside the longer you stay negative
reduced max health + can't have ward?
quiet hearth
VK burns hp instead of mana
turbid dome
spending life isn't a real cost when leech is like a core mechanic of the mastery
quiet hearth
Considering how high those mana costs get?
Like just toss mana entirely, VK is now the you live or die mastery
turbid dome
no more worldsplitter then
quiet hearth
I think that is fine considering even without it you're still blowing up screens
Or maybe a corruption mechanic, where you start spending HP on an escalating scale once you hit negative.
Do we have any good phys maces?
tight jolt
spending life isn't a real cost when leech is like a core mechanic of the master...
Spend life instead of mana when you have negative mana. You do not benefit from leech while under 0 mana. Spend 10% more health per cast.
Something like that
quiet hearth
Nah, keep the leech, just give it a fat multi so you're losing big chunks of hp when you do so. OR something like, when you are at negative mana, spend twice as much in HP until you reach full mana.
tight jolt
Or it could just be a limited time buff. "The flows of time lag behind you. Abilities cost no mana for 2 seconds when you cast with negative mana. 15 second cooldown"
quiet hearth
Would need to be a bigger cd imo, but just something that enables that yoyo playstyle. "I paid for all these hybrid hp idols and imma use 'em"
turbid dome
imo shouldn't be spend life for it as that will quickly hit what POE does where your resource is very easy to regen
my thought is, each time you spend mana while at negative mana you "burn" part of your health globe, so your max health gets reduced the longer you stay at negative mana, you still spend mana as normal, this would require void well to say gain mana equal to 30% of your mana pool, not set it to 30%
your max health recovers while you are at positive mana
burnt kestrel
Yo all,i just spec to Pali(17lv so far)and wanna play around the smite,should i go with the fire smite build or lighting ?
chilly peak
Many possibilities here. You can self cast smite, or proc it in several ways indirectly. Both, fire or lightning can do the job very well, its a bit depending on what you want to do.
turbid dome
just make sure you read what can only happen on a direct smite cast vs a triggered smite cast (for example the chance to double cast node is direct cast only)
chilly peak
I have this season for example two Pallys that kill with smite, both indirect, and both use a different element.
One uses for example Warpath. As that has a great synergy with fire, I use a fire smite there.
My Hammer-Smiter uses Devotion (lightning), has a completly different playstyle but has a great clear if you always pay attention to mana-management and buffs.
quiet hearth
imo shouldn't be spend life for it as that will quickly hit what POE does where ...
only it's nothing like that because it's ramping cost is going to destroy your hp
turbid dome
only it's nothing like that because it's ramping cost is going to destroy your h...
either the ramping cost is high enough where no build can use it because it kills you to fast, or its low enough where everything dies before the cost does that much damage to you