🔱┃sentinel

[mighty cedar]

Although I really want the calamity haha but better to be alive than dead haha

[cobalt blade]

Leonite Greathelm?

[waxen nymph]

Havent changed my gear since lvl 30, just killed Lagon in Regular Monos

Smite, Flame Burst Warpath is so good

I forgot how good it is to be Stun Immune

[turbid dome]

Yeah that thing

[cobalt blade]

Yea, until I have to VR and random enemy hits me or stucked into nothing 🥹

[cobalt blade]

Still farming mine with my desired T7

[turbid dome]

[mighty cedar]

I’m very tempted to do the multi strike electrify

[waxen nymph]

Dont

[mighty cedar]

HHa why

[waxen nymph]

This is just my opinion but

1. MS feels awful to use
2. Electrify has very little support, best you will achieve is Meh dmg

[alpine canopy]

It wasn't too bad honestly, I never got any good LP slams on mine and it felt pretty nice. Minus having to be melee of course.

But hitting one enemy with MS and seeing the whole pack explode in smites was fun

[waxen nymph]

I hate relying on MS for my dmg, especially waiting for a Smite to procc

I need to try smth too

Rive Attunement stacking with Palarus and a Mace

[alpine canopy]

There's no waiting anymore, only time it is sometimes not good feeling is against big tanky non-rares (which are a lot less common since the changes to fleshes etc.)

[waxen nymph]

Glad to hear that

[waxen nymph]

I wonder what mastery would be better

VK got the echoes
Paladin get Holy Aura so easier tankiness

[alpine canopy]

I used aurelis + palarus, MS hits, procs HH, both can proc a lot of palarus smites

[waxen nymph]

FG got DoT Mitigation, Parry Chance

[turbid dome]

Rive + apathy’s maw (with double T7 flat void dmg) + foe reaver

[waxen nymph]

I want to try Att stacking

Palarus give Flat Melee, and Rive get Flat Fire Melee with a Mace

[turbid dome]

Attunement so lackluster

[waxen nymph]

You can get Flat Melee Dmg, DoT Mitigation

Not that bad

[alpine canopy]

Ooh hmm, so like a phys/fire hybrid. Might make it hard to get good increases to scale all that flat

[turbid dome]

I’m meaning the innate bonus from attunement

[alpine canopy]

I think it's down to FG or VK. FG might be able to scale both phys and fire together somewhat efficiently (on my phone atm, so not sure), but VK echoes on rive are really good

[turbid dome]

I’m biased but I’d say vk

[alpine canopy]

Then I'll say FG to balance things out

[waxen nymph]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaM7aPeB

This is a rough plan

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

A lp Renegade Will could be nice too

[mighty cedar]

So with MM afaik you don’t have to wait for smite procs… isn’t there a node that converts the extra swords to smite for tou? The sword procs are just bonus afaik

[mighty cedar]

If duel wielding dies the “atk with an axe” stack from the sent tree

[waxen nymph]

??

[mighty cedar]

Sent passive that says if wielding an axe in ease atk speed, does duel wielding double dip?

[waxen nymph]

No

Used to though

[cursive rose]

what about different weapons

1 sword 1 axe ext

[waxen nymph]

Nope

[mighty cedar]

Also did you see my comment abt MS?

[waxen nymph]

Yes but I am sorry, I dont understand what you mean

OH!! Got it !! Sorry long day ^^

The extra Swords cant hit the Main Target, thats whyI dont like it

[mighty cedar]

OH really!? I did not know this! This completely changes my perspective of the build hah

I really want the fissure node in smite to be amazing haha

[waxen nymph]

Yeah me too

I believe the setup with the most Dmg per Fissure is proccing it with Warpath

Because of the 75% Fire Pen

Problem is, its Only 1 per second
So you need another way to procc it

Every second in between the procc from Warpath

[turbid dome]

Doesnt fissure also like not scale

[waxen nymph]

On paper numbers looks decent imo

But small aoe and long ramp up dmg

[turbid dome]

Ah

[waxen nymph]

So on a boss fight you stack your Fissures, and the boss move 3 steps and take no dmg

[mighty cedar]

Honestly shield throw could probably be used for this

[waxen nymph]

Technically you can stack 10
So 360% Dmg Effect
It has 2 More Dmg > 250% and 100%

It benefit from Devotion Flat Spell Dmg for Smite

[mighty cedar]

Is that an item?

[waxen nymph]

On paper, it looks like you can deal dmg

But gameplaywise its clunk AF

[turbid dome]

Devotion is an amulet

[mighty cedar]

Honestly? I might be able to use it in my build, it looks like it would fit, no? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaM7RExB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (59) / Paladin (9)

General:

▸ Health: 1,523, Regen: 94.56/s
▸ Mana: 154.46, Regen: 9.81/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 1 Dex / 5 Int / 1 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 109% / 66% / 88% / 87% / 68% / 85%
▸ EHP: 5,008 / 5,008 / 4,588 / 6,510 / 5,008 / 4,672 / 5,008

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 91%, Threshold: 345
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (2,960)
▸ Block Chance: 56%, Mitigation: 40% (1,175)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Smite (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Shield Throw (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Maehlin's Hubris
• Thorn Slinger
• Tome of Elements

[waxen nymph]

Why ?

[mighty cedar]

Because the proc chance for it is higher than 1 per sec

You are loosing the 75% pen from warpath though

[waxen nymph]

There is a 0.5 Sec cd on Fissures

When I tried it, I used Javelin Banner to procc it

In the mean time I was spamming Vengeance

Felt like a weird Totem Build ^^

[mighty cedar]

Hmmm I don’t really have any flat spell dmg in my build though

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[mighty cedar]

Would work the MA shield throw pally but, RoS FG for shield throw proc stuff is just better IMO

[waxen nymph]

No Fiery Dragon Shoes ?

[mighty cedar]

I’m working on it haha

Yea with it needing spell dmg scaling I don’t think it’s easily fit into my current build

[mighty cedar]

Remember how you said even though lava burst has a mana cost it doesn’t consume mana?

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[mighty cedar]

Is that the same case for fissure on smite? And or if it’s proced by the throw idol?

[waxen nymph]

No

Because 🤷

[tawny mauve]

I never really had enough mana consumption for Devotion to work well.

[waxen nymph]

When I asked Mike, the answer was smth like
"Its Mana consume, and technically you are casting the Fissure"

🙃

[waxen nymph]

I am quite surprised by this

Sigils of Hope consume quite a lot of Mana

I find it quite easy to be low Mana

[tawny mauve]

Sigils is only a recent addition to my theorycrafting. It'll be replacing Javelin Banner.

[waxen nymph]

Imo 2 Smite idols are sufficient to reach the cap

[opaque grotto]

What mastery is good for doing good damage? Void, Forge, or Paladin?

Leveling

[mighty cedar]

Idk, I’ve tried 2 before and it didn’t feel like it was enough

[tawny mauve]

I'm also planning to rely on Sun Seal automating casting Sigils, so we'll see how it handles mana.

[mighty cedar]

It would open up space for other support though

[turbid dome]

You can’t switch mastery, pick the one you want to play

[tawny mauve]

All of them, really. I think it depends on the theme you want.

[opaque grotto]

i just prefer mostly melee damage

Paladin to me is boring

[turbid dome]

VK likes melee damage

[tawny mauve]

🤣 Melee really doesn't narrow it down. Void Knight is a good option, though.

[turbid dome]

Each sentinel can do melee well

[quiet ridge]

What affixes would you want to slam on a World Splitter if doing Erasing Strike build? Melee void damage and?

[tawny mauve]

Rive with the Forged Weapon node and Forge mastery looks really interesting to me, since Multistrike has the ASI reduction when going the same route. Wish Rive was more consistent, though.

[waxen nymph]

Mana I believe

As can be great too

[tawny mauve]

Melee or void damage increase, no?

[turbid dome]

Manafused on a two hander is really good

[mighty cedar]

That fissure got me curious. What about something like this for the fissure ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bx5DaO7o

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 90

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,210, Regen: 145.32/s
▸ Mana: 109.46, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 7 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 64% / 64% / 115% / 61% / 47% / 47%
▸ EHP: 2,444 / 2,202 / 2,202 / 2,616 / 2,144 / 1,910 / 1,910

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 242
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (604)
▸ Block Chance: 61%, Mitigation: 42% (1,336)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smite (21)
• Shield Throw (20)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)

Used unique items:

• Cinder Song

[mighty cedar]

With that 1 item fissure is on par base dmg wise with ignite

[cursive rose]

what are the slam rules again, can i slam 2 different class specific relics if they dont have any specific class affixes?

[mighty cedar]

As long as it isn’t class limiting I believe so

[turbid dome]

Yeah slamming a class specific affix onto a unique will lock it to that class

[cursive rose]

noice

[waxen nymph]

If it get a class specific affix

[turbid dome]

Yea

[waxen nymph]

Ngl, this look not good

Why Cindersong ?

[mighty cedar]

Just thought it would work well. Another source of fire dmg and flat spell dmg since it needs that supp to be comparable with ignite? Idk just trying to like proc it a lot since you said that warpath has a 1sec CD but with shield throw it would be faster (with the .5 taken into consideration)

Also thought to do an electrify smite sheild throw build similar too with a mad ladel

Ladel would actually probably be really good for fuzzier tbh

I jus think ladel could be good for the RoS smite since it allows spell hit to apply electrify as well

[brittle grove]

dat nemesis

[turbid dome]

I love the remix tool

[brittle grove]

rather pray for +4 ES, cause i have a 3LP titan heart to slam

and i dunno whats on the chests yet

no +4 es

[turbid dome]

What did the slam/nemisus hit?

Tho perfect world for a 3lp is t7 es, %hp and flat hp I think

[brittle grove]

well i cant slam it, cause i aint droppen t7 es

[turbid dome]

🫡

[brittle grove]

and those 2 bodies had potential to have +4

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Oo

Just finished normal monos

This is my gear xD

[turbid dome]

Crab

[pine jacinth]

Has anyone played sierpins fractal tree? I've heard it was bugged but no idea if thats fixed

[turbid dome]

No

I haven’t also seen anyone say it’s been bug fixed

[pine jacinth]

yeah I just see a bunch of old threads saying it's bugged but I can't find anything about a fix ;.;

[turbid dome]

@waxen nymph do you know if the sierpins spear got its bug fixed

[waxen nymph]

What is the bug already ?

[turbid dome]

I have no idea, I was hoping you would know to answers @pine jacinth ‘s question

[pine jacinth]

From what I see the dex scaled splitting doesn't work right per the old threads

[mighty cedar]

What cursed **** is this

[turbid dome]

🦀

[cursive rose]

god damnit it feels so bad to bust on a 3lp when it doesnt take the 1 stat you want jeez

[waxen nymph]

Could not find any mention of a bug fix in the patch notes

[pine jacinth]

Any javelin builds youd recommend?

[waxen nymph]

Barrage + Smite Bleed is super good

Holy Trail is nice too

[pine jacinth]

Im playing torment lock so holy trail would be too similar of a playstyle

Is electify javelin still decent?

[mighty cedar]

If you go electrify barrage smite yes

[alpine canopy]

Lightning crit barrage also works, pretty similar to the electrify setup, just different gearing

[mighty cedar]

Pally does have a very good passive node for lighting crit in it, specifically lightning spell crit

[pine jacinth]

Hmmm I was hoping for something more along the lines of the old javazon playstyle from d2, I might see if I can make Sierpins work

[opaque grotto]

hi doods

I'm playing a forge knight

[viral dune]

Yesterday I failed 3lp shattered chains, completely bricking it by missing maxrolled t7 hybrid hp. Today I failed 3lp darkstriders, missed t7 maxrolled vitality. I’m in absolute shambles

[turbid dome]

;-;

[cursive rose]

feels bad

they need to make something not feel so bad about when it fails but i understand geting bis or near for whatever your build is isnt supposed to be easy

but ruining both your LP and your exault is such a bummer maybe they could put in some sort of QOL because I probably spent some time and or money on at least one component

[pine jacinth]

If your exalt is really good you can rune of creation it for a 2nd try

[viral dune]

Yes but then second fail makes you even more sad

[pine jacinth]

At that point rngesus just hates you if you miss 2x 3 lps in a row

[brittle grove]

played aberroth for the first time with sound on
a) he does make some very good points
b) why is there no animation for his death? i always thought he just vanished, now with sound it is an entirely diffrent story

[waxen nymph]

Playing ES??

[brittle grove]

i know why i havent seen it on ES, but currently on my druid (my ES char doesnt see anything past the first zone anymore )

[waxen nymph]

Because there is an animation

The beast he is mounting rebels, kills him and runs into the Void

[brittle grove]

weird, maybe i souldnt play erasing swipe druid

imma look at it on youtube then

[waxen nymph]

Swipe with Kill Threshold ?

[brittle grove]

yes, does culling bug it?

[waxen nymph]

Maybe

I mean ES has one (sort of)
Swipe has one

[brittle grove]

ES has a culling node as well (erasure of the living) , but then again the skill itself removes everything so

[alpine canopy]

It's lightning throwing and spell both, so tu'rani makes really good use of it

[cursive rose]

maybe i should be using my creation runes instead of sleeping on a bed of them like smaug

[brittle grove]

nonono, hoard them, no remorse, HOARD THEM

[cobalt blade]

First thing i saw when i opened this chat

🦀

Also, I am thinking if code of the erased sentinel is worth replacing anchor of oblivion.

Mainly for the Armor dot mitigation, mana, and +1 sentinel skills (erased) vs 40% endurance and generally the relic is good for VK (anchor)

Ngl, anchor 3 stacks of slow while warpathing feelsbad (died few times cuz cant escape big slams from bosses) and I dont have any form of cleanse :P

Erased is gonna take a long time to get the correct weaver affixes while anchor can slam but the LPL quite high to find a 2LP :P

[alpine canopy]

Yeh anchor farming sucks, also that harbinger is gross

[cobalt blade]

I spend time killing the side worms while fighting harton husk everytime, i dont spawn the harbinger anymore 🥲. Dont need anything from the harbinger in current cycle unless i just want to hoard more eyes which I did in lower corruption

[alpine canopy]

Killing the worms before harton does help with the harbinger, but the visual clarity still leaves a bit to be desired

ain't never gonna catch me disabling harbingers

[magic panther]

Okay, so does anyone know exactly what stats do and dont transfer over for forged weapons? like the weapon has + phys %, but does that apply to the weapon?

sorry, the base weapon has +phys%

[cobalt blade]

/nods

[cobalt blade]

You Harbinger murderer!

[turbid dome]

nemisus might of given me the worst exsang

[alpine canopy]

Basically anything that's not too complicated and not attributes. Like skill procs never transfer, missing health gained as ward doesn't transfer, but a lot of other stuff does.

[magic panther]

yeah, got it figured out, thanks for the response. I also tested Palarus with them, and no smite procs. Shame.

[opaque grotto]

how do the loot filter work

[magic panther]

its pretty deep, I would suggest taking a look at some already made filters to get some understanding, or trying to make some filters of your own.

[waxen nymph]

Basically
At the bottom you hide everything
And add rules to show stuff above the hide rule

[cobalt blade]

Ayy Vlad

[cobalt blade]

Any input on this?

[waxen nymph]

I am at work rn
If you can send a screen shot of Anchor. I am not too familiar with this item

[cobalt blade]

Ayy no worries. You can reply when you are free

Thanks btw

[brittle grove]

anchor only realy pays of if you get a good slam on it, which you havent gotten on a codex, the endurance is negligable if you dont stack endurance and so is the void blast
TLDR : anchor just a slam target, codex better if you get desired affixes

for example for my void knight : i used a 2 LP anchor only because i couldnt get a t7 mana roll on my codex's, as soon as i hit a codex with t7 flat mana, the anchor was gone since the codex offer way more value with +1 all skills

[cobalt blade]

Ayy thanks for the input. I have 3.8k hp with 880+ endu threshhold right now. I read somewhere that if u have 5k hp with 1k threshold (base 20% threshold into max hp) and 60% endu, it translate into extra 2.25k ehp. That seems lucrative. Dont know hows the calculation is since i am a number idiot.

[cobalt blade]

My desired affix is T7 crit multi and T5 all resist while channeling. Imma need to dump many erased code for that. Anchor i can slam any time given i find a 2LP and hope for the best

But i understand your notion to replace anchor once your erased code got the affix you need

[brittle grove]

i blew through over a hundred codex's before i got t7 flat mana on my codex, so i got a good mileage out of my anchor, so just slam an anchor and then farm codex's on the side, thats how i did it

[cobalt blade]

Wow, cool. Thanks for your insight. Btw, what number of weaver's will do you aim for? I generally keep 18 and above

[brittle grove]

yep, 18 is what you are aiming for (or at least what i aimed for as well) in order to garantuee a t7 + 2xt5 at least, tho dont be discouraged they are somewhat rare, i got like 1 out of 2 prophecies, sometimes only 1/4

but relic prophecies are thankfully cheap

[cobalt blade]

Owh.. didnt know that. Do you have a sheet or page i can refer to for all these potential tiering for weaver's will?

[brittle grove]

neither nor :
but what i saw in those weavers will items is, that they try to get 1 affix to t5 before adding a new one and then upgrading that t5 to 6 or 7 comes at random during the upgrading of the other affixes to t5, but it avoids bringing you a fourth affix. so going by that assumption if the game tries to stay at 3 affixes, you need > 17 to get 3 affixes to t5 and then 1 to t7

[cobalt blade]

Whew.. thats great observation. Thanks alot. I am also aware it can be so random as to add a t1 then forget it completely and jump to other affix

[brittle grove]

no idea if any of it is correct, but thats what it looked like with the codexes i had

[cobalt blade]

👌

[waxen nymph]

I am not a big fan of Anchor
Imo if you want Str I would go Twisted Heart. Got Str and %. Hp

Sure the 40% Endurance is nice but you can get it elsewhere

Bub big fan of Codex

+1 skill and the Armor DoT is really nice

[cobalt blade]

Yea I was scanning thru the uniques and saw this but too many wasted stats since i cant utilize them as a warpath VK.

[cobalt blade]

I dont have other source of endurance in my planner xD. Is the default 20% okay if i have other defensive layers lmao

Yeah codex looking real good

I think I am convinced to use codex. Will use a good exalted relic for now since i wasnt lucky enough to get a 2LP anchor so far

Thanks guys

[woeful ivy]

are the auto generated loot filters on epoch tools any good?

[turbid dome]

Haven’t used one but it can’t be that bad

You can also just recolor whatever affix + base you’re going for, manually

[woeful ivy]

just tried one, seems decent for an automatic tool.

[turbid dome]

Just go through and double check that the exalted affixes your aiming for are recolored to something you like

Like personally I make the T7s I really want be pink cause nothing else in this game is pink

[viral marten]

Im playing my old Void Knight in Legacy with Shield Rush and skilled Dark Rush. Now I should be able to use Shield Rush without a Shield, but it doesnt work anymore. Does anyone know why?

Also, no Echos are created anymore from warpath. Wtf is going on? It's still skilled. Is Legacy somehow bugged?

[turbid dome]

You might need to unequip and re equip your weapon or despecialize and respecialize your skills

Make the game re-register that you have the correct stuff to use the skill

[cerulean sorrel]

So I am coming back after an extended break. I was wondering ya'lls thought on this build I got an idea for. It is 'early build' example of basically bis stated gear but no legendary/exalteds. just what it looks like in full rares. its a 2h fire build with mainly ward defense with moderate armor and a small block to help. Focus is on attack speed and stacking shreds.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ow5Y7GNQ

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (11) / Paladin (72)

General:

▸ Health: 2,573, Regen: 58/s
▸ Mana: 293.27, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 45/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 68 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 81% / 71% / 78% / 71% / 74% / 79%
▸ EHP: 5,107 / 5,311 / 5,107 / 7,278 / 5,082 / 5,233 / 5,311

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 560
▸ Armor Mitigation: 55% (3,741)
▸ Block Chance: 11%, Mitigation: 26% (491)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 102%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Divine Essence (1/3), Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (22)
• Rive (20)
• Judgement (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Singularity

[cerulean sorrel]

I dubbed it my "Healing is painful" build

[viral marten]

Requipping the weapon doesnt help unfortunately. Won't i lose skillpoints if I despecialize and respecialize?

[turbid dome]

If your above level 80 you’ll get the points back in like 2 echos

[viral marten]

75 ^.°

[turbid dome]

I mean if it’s not your damage skill, so you really need all the points in it?

[viral marten]

Well warparth doesnt create Echoes either, and that's kind of my damage spell

But thanks for your suggestions and your help.

[turbid dome]

I forgot warpath was mentioned too, mb

[turbid dome]

That looks good overall I think, tho personally I would go with 100% reduced bonus dmg take from crits reduction over crit avoidance as you can cap it with the implicts on those boots and the lion helmet base, saving a good number of affix slots for other stuff

However, if you are doing ward, your gonna need more ward retention than 4% imo, sentinel’s ward gain was reduced to reasonable levels this cycle

[viral marten]

No worries mate, thanks

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah one reason I was asking, wasnt sure if I needed to look into more ward retention

[turbid dome]

Ward retention from shackles got nerfed but it’s still an ok one stop shop for some

You might want to use an opulent catalyst in the offhand as it also gives a crap ton of ward retention from its implicits (if rolled well)

[cerulean sorrel]

a good ashes of mortality tho couldquickly add to it

[turbid dome]

*opulent focus

With max int and ward retention, this lil dude is a nice 150% ward retention by itself, not even considering the beefy ward per second

Tho your gonna have to grind out a few of them to get good rolls and still have enough forging potential to get the affixes you want

[cerulean sorrel]

ok, so based on those suggestions here is a 1h version of the build i think looks really good too!
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYzkjNDA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (11) / Paladin (72)

General:

▸ Health: 2,689, Regen: 58/s
▸ Mana: 293.27, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 116%, Regen: 64/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 13 Int / 68 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 81% / 71% / 78% / 71% / 74% / 79%
▸ EHP: 5,240 / 5,450 / 5,240 / 7,341 / 5,215 / 5,369 / 5,450

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 583
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,551)
▸ Block Chance: 11%, Mitigation: 26% (491)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (22)
• Rive (20)
• Judgement (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Singularity

[waxen nymph]

Why Crystal Sword ?

[lament star]

oof

[waxen nymph]

Rive only has a Phys Tag, so you dont benefit from the AS

[cobalt blade]

laughing and crying at the same time 🤣

[cerulean sorrel]

damage is from healing hands this build is it not? I have it as spell form not melee

Crystal sword is for elemental damage for healing hands/judgement.

ahh never mind it dont work right

[turbid dome]

Wouldn’t you want a scepter if your doing melee and spell

[cerulean sorrel]

yeah, thanks overlook stuff like that

[waxen nymph]

And 40-100% Inc Dmg is not super good too

[turbid dome]

That too, Crystal sword really only works if you can use the attack speed

[cloud widget]

Guys for sigeon's reprisals shield, how do I calculate the +1 throwing attack per damage reflected ? Is it (damage reflected+% damage reflected )/10 ?

[viral dune]

same bro

[mighty cedar]

If a spell meets multiple tags I.e fire and spell… are the various increases of dmg added? Like x% increase to fire dmg + your x% increase to spell dmg?

[waxen nymph]

Yes, all sources of Increased Dmg are added together

[lament star]

any farm strat for lvling shield bash fg ? just do monos or is there a better way ?

its awfully slow but i kinda want to beat aberroth at least once before cycle ends

[viral dune]

yes they both apply

[mighty cedar]

So yesterday you said my first thoughts on the fissure build WIP was “trash” my words not yours ahah. So this is 2.0 going more ward based ect. I’m eager to hear your thoughts https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1NM1OeQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,556, Regen: 359.59/s
▸ Mana: 253.01, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 105%, Regen: 191/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 11 Dex / 13 Int / 7 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 77% / 77% / 107% / 61% / 68% / 68%
▸ EHP: 3,800 / 3,800 / 3,800 / 4,393 / 3,333 / 3,535 / 3,745

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 311
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,781)
▸ Block Chance: 67%, Mitigation: 43% (1,517)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Shield Throw (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Smite (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Vessel of Strife
• Exsanguinous
• Immolator's Oblation

[waxen nymph]

Looks better

I would recommend Devotion though

[cobalt blade]

I am laughing and crying harder now 🤣

the joy/demise of weaver's will

[waxen nymph]

Going Vessel + Exsanguinous is a mistake

Vessel wants you to stack Regen
Exsang wants you to be as low life as possible

[mighty cedar]

Just for the flat spell dmg increase?

[waxen nymph]

I understand you want the "Exsang" affix but you already have it on Gloves

[mighty cedar]

Ha okay, makes sense I didn’t think about that interaction

[waxen nymph]

Yes because it can be a ton of Flat Spell

[mighty cedar]

If my math is right atm fissure should do 550/sec which isn’t too bad but more flat would increase it. I guess I would just need to offset that stuff with a good devotion slam

[waxen nymph]

I like the belt choice

[mighty cedar]

Thanks I thought it went well with the FG passive tree as well

[waxen nymph]

Armor Shred with Fire Hits is useless (Idols)

[mighty cedar]

Why? Won’t smite, lavabhest, ans shield throw proc it?

[waxen nymph]

Sure, but Armor doesnt mitigate DoT

[mighty cedar]

Oh I see ! Haha I misunderstood that

[waxen nymph]

I mean your Smite and Lava Burst Hit Dmg will benefit from it

But Fissure wont

[mighty cedar]

Yea but that’s wasted for sure since those dmg will be abysmal. Fire dmg over time is a good replacement for those. Or I could go flat health too

[waxen nymph]

If you go Devotion, maybe a Firestarter Torch will be better than your Wand

The 40% More Fire Dmg is big

Not sure, would have to do the math

[mighty cedar]

Devotion just scares me since it’s a whol item to use 1 slot (I get it’s an impactful 1 prefix that applies to me for all) but my heart hurts aha. Would require a slam haha

Maybe get the current ish necklace and transition into one.

[waxen nymph]

I mean basic Devotion is still good

[mighty cedar]

Would like to see poison, nec, ans void polished off but….. meh could probably do it on the chest piece I replace with ensang

[waxen nymph]

Fire + Lightning Res
Endurance
Heal Effect

[mighty cedar]

I mean fire and light are maxed already and I don’t use endurance afaik. Heal effect would help overall

[waxen nymph]

Probably not, because you want %HP and Regen on your suffixes

Because you are doing Vessel doesnt mean you should stack HP

[mighty cedar]

Should I scrap the gloves experimental then too?

[waxen nymph]

I would, it a lot of pts in HH and you are going for a +4 on your Helmet

That could be % Mana

[mighty cedar]

I was just thinking for the ward gain on HH. However, I do understand where you are coming from dmg wise for the devotion. More max mana means more missing means more flat spell

[waxen nymph]

You current setup would generate another 1500 Ward on top of your 1500 Hp

[mighty cedar]

I’m tweaking some things right now per your suggestions regarding ward and mana so give me a sec

[mighty cedar]

Okay so with these few changes (not sure about ward) but, for dmg making some assumptions here. 72 (from devotion assuming 100 mana left) + 92 items + 5 implicit to the skill + 40 (assuming 20 ignite stacks) = 209 * 500% dot and fire dmg = 1045/sec https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8NeW6NB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,805, Regen: 333.99/s
▸ Mana: 462.47, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 105%, Regen: 177/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 11 Dex / 13 Int / 7 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 133% / 77% / 94% / 107% / 61% / 68% / 68%
▸ EHP: 5,172 / 5,172 / 5,172 / 6,573 / 4,537 / 4,811 / 5,243

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 361
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,903)
▸ Block Chance: 67%, Mitigation: 43% (1,517)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Shield Throw (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Smite (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Vessel of Strife
• Devotion
• Immolator's Oblation

[mighty cedar]

Per fissure on the ground

Not counting any more modifiers so that seems pretty good all things considered

[waxen nymph]

Just have to try it now

[mighty cedar]

Hai hai, time to farm a vessel!

[waxen nymph]

I mean you could try it first to see if you like the playstyle

[mighty cedar]

I mean I like my current ignite play style and this isn’t too far off that one. Might jsut be a little less dmg but I really don’t know since that flat spell dmg seems pretty powerful

I love any build that uses ST Hahha and RoS. Tempted to try this on an AE time rot, doom, future strike bulld

[waxen nymph]

Shame you cant have Fire DoT AE

[quiet hearth]

RF skill when

[waxen nymph]

Its called Judgment

[quiet hearth]

It's really not, I want something that functions more like Aura of decay.

Maybe something that builds stages until you cant sustain it and then you can press the button and it goes boom

[waxen nymph]

Best I can do is Ravaging Aura then ^^

[mighty cedar]

I badly want the fire aura from shields to melt

But it’s extremely hard to scale

[waxen nymph]

Me too, hopefully 1.2 🙏

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, I know it's because they dont want 'passive' gameplay, but at least give me the option.

I'd settle for RA to convert to fire with an item, or even just a node. That would play so smoothe I think.

[mighty cedar]

I’m lookikg on LE tools and can’t find fire aura minion skill anywhere (even hovering over it on the sheild says nothing) idk if it’s the same as regular fire aura because it has a different picture

[quiet hearth]

scales with fire dmg and dot dmg

[waxen nymph]

I believe they use the regular Fire Aura

[mighty cedar]

Well regular has fire, spell, dot, area ans INT tags

[quiet hearth]

If thats the case, cleaver solution?

[waxen nymph]

Not thats irrelevant

Its a subskill

[mighty cedar]

No, I’m looking at sources of aforementioned fire aura and it isn’t listed on ther so it has to be a different one

[waxen nymph]

It will inherit Attribute scaling from its main Skill > Summon Shield

[quiet hearth]

It only gets hp from scaling

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[mighty cedar]

Holding Z and nothing pops up

And the image is completely different than actual Fire Aura

[mighty cedar]

They also inherit stats from your shield

[quiet hearth]

All they need to do is slap they gain dmg with attunement in there and problem solved really

[waxen nymph]

There is still very little More Dmg

Flat Spell is pretty tight

[waxen nymph]

There is nothing really relevant for it iirc

Maybe Rayeh Light

[mighty cedar]

Only thing I can think of would be… yup beat me too it

[waxen nymph]

It has Fire DoT

But you will already build Inc Minion Dmg so wont be that much

Cant wait for 1.2 (I know its super far away) for the last Paladin Skill

[mighty cedar]

So my question is, what are the tags for it cause if spell is one then sigils could be helpful

[quiet hearth]

Hopefully it will be a full pass over Sent skills in general

[mighty cedar]

I wonder if in game when you hover over it if it says it’s tags. I’ll have to check when I get home today

[quiet hearth]

Hover over what? the aura or the skill itself?

[mighty cedar]

Both idk, just trying to get the tags of the shields fire aura skill. LE tools doesn’t have anything on it

[quiet hearth]

the aura has no tags, the skill has these

[mighty cedar]

That is for the skills RoS though

Not the fire aura

[quiet hearth]

Dont think the aura has any tags, I'd have to look in game

[waxen nymph]

No

[mighty cedar]

I mean doesn’t every skill have a tag? Ha

[waxen nymph]

Its so old its not even formatted properly xD

[quiet hearth]

amazing

[waxen nymph]

It tells you what the tags are though

[quiet hearth]

in that there are none

[waxen nymph]

Lvl 60 Empowered monos is tough

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, the damage ramp is real

[mighty cedar]

I mean fire aura in the mage area doesn’t say anything AND is a spell

[alpine canopy]

You definitely do, I've got a bleed warpath paladin and RA warpath VK build both running just fine, I just numlock warpath on both and zoom (the bleed one is much more auto)

[quiet hearth]

You definitely don't. You still have to press buttons with those builds, you are still doing something. I want to be able to just run around on fire in the name of something. Right now closest I can get is reflect, which, does a surprising amount of dmg for what it is right now

[alpine canopy]

I press 0 buttons on the bleed build aside from lunge (completely optional) and VR (only needed on bossess)

Since WP is numlocked, I literally don't even click to move

[quiet hearth]

You still are pressing things, you have to start warpathing, you must use VR. I want something with the on/off functionality that aura of decay has, and numlock shouldn't be working and they have said they are 100% going to make sure they get rid of it.

[alpine canopy]

Necro also has the option of fully automatic builds

[quiet hearth]

They really dont, outside of minion builds.

[alpine canopy]

Numlock is an on/off functionality just like AoD. It's never going away.

[alpine canopy]

It's necro

[quiet hearth]

There are necro builds that use minions as fodder not an army

[alpine canopy]

Anyway, you said you wanted the option to have automated builds and I gave you a few. I'm sure there are more if you get creative.

[mighty cedar]

Am I understanding the argument that fire aura is “too passive” and they don’t want that? AFAIK you still have to press RoS to summon them ect

[quiet hearth]

You really didn't, we disagree on what 'passive' is, and that'll just be the end of it

[alpine canopy]

How do you define passive?

[turbid dome]

I don’t think the devs wanted something like righteous fire from POE

[mighty cedar]

Yea I have heard Mike say this exact sentence multiple times

[quiet hearth]

They dont, which is why aura of decay acts like it does

[turbid dome]

It is a little goofy to me that they said no to it -> added in two skills that seemingly function like that

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, they will always have passive skills and gameplay options, they've even made some changes to allow more passive play in the past. They do want it to be an option, they just don't want it to be the "best" option, in general.

I think mage fire aura's issue right now is it's just really weak, it's not even a passive playstyle since they are hard to generate

[turbid dome]

It also eats so many affixes

While spellblade has a single affix for it, despite needing very different gear from other mages

[quiet hearth]

It's wild given how HH is available to every build right there on the tree pretty much

[turbid dome]

Healing hands? (I just got out of a meeting and my brain is mush)

[quiet hearth]

yes

[mighty cedar]

Fire aura really doesn’t seem THAT unscalable to me for a spellblade (just taking a quick glance at all the stuff) should be very scalable with some more mods form uniques ect

[brittle grove]

nono, draven meant headhunter, EHG added headhunter with todays patch

[turbid dome]

Yay the PoE item that forces the rest of the game to be balanced around it

[brittle grove]

tbf thats mageblood for a few years now

[turbid dome]

Mage blood is super strong, head hunter forces them to create any rare monster effect with it in mind. Head hunter is a lot more gameplay balance warping

[mighty cedar]

What does headhunter do? Sorry have not heard about it yet

[brittle grove]

fair point, i always forgett that people actually do maps in that game, anyhow, back to last epoch

[turbid dome]

When you kill a rare mob you get it’s special effects, like the things listed under its health bar

This is a path of exile item

[mighty cedar]

Oh okay yea no Ty haha tried it and brain hurts too much ha

[brittle grove]

so in todays news

got a 3 LP shattered chains, bricked said shattered chains, alt f4'd in rage

[mighty cedar]

Lol

[alpine canopy]

There's a good amount of scaling for it (just got more in 1.1, too), it just deals such low base damage/eff that it caps out still mediocre

[turbid dome]

^

[quiet hearth]

I think some things are on the burner simply because they want to address the issues with items specifically, thus leaving the skills around to be more available than just one class.

[mighty cedar]

Did you see my proposed smite fissure build? Theoretically have the fissure at 1k per second

[turbid dome]

Void knight can now steal black hole from sorc, it does void damage now, what happens

[quiet hearth]

Fun

[brittle grove]

no need for that, just give ES or Rive a "pull in" effect. or even anomaly for the matter

[turbid dome]

Have the rive pull in cast a black hole

[mighty cedar]

Is there something that can proc the void orbs?

[quiet hearth]

Rive casts void orb on crit when

[alpine canopy]

A finger on the monkey's paw curls, it's now just a paladin build because the fire conversion is still optimal

[turbid dome]

Side note: the animation for black hole, while cool, is still so lackluster to me

I want something like enigma’s black hole in dota 2

[brittle grove]

with the golden black hole mtx pls

[turbid dome]

Yes

[brittle grove]

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

i died for typing that gregory, worth it

[turbid dome]

Like I want to do a black hole build on sorc, but the animation just kills it for me

[turbid dome]

o7

[quiet hearth]

I think the Binary star node makes it look awesome personally

[turbid dome]

True

Binary does look a lot better

[brittle grove]

all i want from EHG for christmas, is to give me the ability to swap ascendancies please for the love of dog i hate levelling

[alpine canopy]

Binary system is the best node on the tree, really. Just straight up double damage for 1 point

unfortunately also means you have no pull 😅

[turbid dome]

Yeah, I wanted to do a pull one that just chased enemies around

[quiet hearth]

I really need to do a dot mana stack sorc

[alpine canopy]

I'm planning on doing an ignite one as my next meme build, once I am one with poison skeles

[turbid dome]

Leveling a mana stacking lightning disintegrate right now

I wish sentinel as a whole got a lot more of the point threshold effects on passive nodes

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, its coming

[turbid dome]

[mighty cedar]

FG got a significant number of than this time around. There is an unbelievable number of %less dmg and % less dot in there

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[cursive rose]

i tried making a necro and it works but there is a better version of what i was doing thats a really head scratchers and i think abusing a bug and I dont really wanna play that class although it nuts

i mess my sentis

[mighty cedar]

Like the one that makes armor apply to DoT dmg!? Game breaking imo

[quiet hearth]

It's really not because it's for Attunement only, so if you're going Str build you get nothing out of it.

We need more stuff based off our HP like primalist gets honestly. Give me stun threshold based on my hp

[alpine canopy]

Very epic node on any build that gets some attunement

[quiet hearth]

Oh yeah if you're stacking attunement it's great, I just wish it was more generic

[turbid dome]

Isn’t stun inherently based on your life

[alpine canopy]

Flat stun threshold was changed somewhat recently to be % hp based in the calc

[turbid dome]

Like the hit has to do at least x% of your life to do a stun in the first place

[quiet hearth]

right, I want more options to scale that stat without stacking raw HP, I hate that just health stacking is the answer to everything outside of crit avoid

[alpine canopy]

iirc 100 stun threshold = 1% of your max health

all hit-based DR also are effectively less stun chance multis

[turbid dome]

I’d love more void knight stuff for existing at negative mana

[quiet hearth]

Trade HP for mana when you go negative would be perfectly on theme imo

Let me just blow myself up cranking those stacks up xD

[turbid dome]

Honestly VK has barely any pain for gain

Despite the class description saying they do

[quiet hearth]

Imagine proccing a ton of slam echoes at once and seeing that life multi start going and you're like...oh no

Just boom, Booom, BOOM, splat

[turbid dome]

Gain 1 stack of void corruption on hit with a void attack/spell

Each stack of void corruption makes you loose 1% of max health per second and grants 10% more damage

It has no cap

Loose all void corruption if you haven’t gained any for 6 seconds

[quiet hearth]

You would have to put a cap on what you could gain per second or one VC into a big pack and you just disappear

[brittle grove]

[quiet hearth]

Just flip VK into not using mana at all and everything uses life

[brittle grove]

omg yes pls

[mighty cedar]

I still prefer reduced dmg from Crits

[turbid dome]

That’s part of the risk I guess, probably cap it at like 5 stacks gained by one attack

[quiet hearth]

That is too much risk, you have to mitigate how much can be applied at one time. Now if it was just 1% of HP lost on gaining a stack sure.

[turbid dome]

That makes too much sense

Also the more stacks you have the more aggressively purple you look

[quiet hearth]

Or if it was current HP/sec that wouldnt be too bad either, stil something to worry about when it gets to like 50% and you have nothing to leech on xD

[mighty cedar]

I wish there were more future strike support. As it can’t get. Any better with no flat dmg due to its scaling ect. I asked about it and was basically told it’s just a throw away niche concept

[turbid dome]

Future strike should echo whatever attack applies the future strike

[quiet hearth]

I can see Engi now, flying through monos screaming Eterra take the wheel as their HP bar yoyos as they slam their way through time.

[turbid dome]

That’s how I play PoE

Rite of ruin degens like 20% of my life every second

[turbid dome]

Probably Orobyss take the wheel

[brittle grove]

[mighty cedar]

This is essentially what I do with smite (I have none of the health reduction cost offsets)!

[quiet hearth]

"Why do you kill exile" Engi actively being eaten alive by the void "Reasons."

[turbid dome]

The void is eating my soul unless I keep killing stuff, it’s like Venom from that comic book but a bit more spooky

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

Not that I can say anything, I always build dumb stuff. Orobyss staring down some mad man who's there to kill him holding a weedeater, a live chicken, and a jar of preserves, and he just killed your strongest henchman with that same combo somehow.

[turbid dome]

[mighty cedar]

I wish smite had a mode that removed it’s healing but increased its dmg (not talking about the good)

[brittle grove]

also bees

[mighty cedar]

Void

[turbid dome]

If you make it a void smite it does that

[quiet hearth]

IF you convert smite to lighting dmg and then take the node that converts to void, does it lose the lightning tag?

[brittle grove]

ok now that i'm, done with my icecream i can actually write, what i wanted to say was :
i think the idea is actually brilliant, make void knight constantly lose health, but in return he gains dmg and has to leech in order to survive, hightens the entire "being consumed by the void" theme, the dot cannot reduce you to 0 HP and leaves you at 1 HP, if you do not leech health back within X seconds you lose all stacks of the dmg buff, ward gain is disabled if you take that passive.

then you just have a maniac running around at 1hp like draven said " I NEED TO KILL "

[turbid dome]

I have no idea, the text on this node has not been changed in a while

[quiet hearth]

I wouldnt say constantly, just get rid of mana and make them use HP. So then a void essence could just mean you dont spend HP for that attack.

according to the build it does lose the lightning tag, not a big deal really

[brittle grove]

yeah not using mana / getting rid of it would be a higher priority theme wise, aggree with that

[mighty cedar]

I would imagine so, one 100% over rides the other

[quiet hearth]

To use gaspars I need a lightning skill anyway, does the auto cast on smite for HH count as you casting for the purposes of when you cast a fire spell?

I doubt it because gaspars says when you use bleh

[turbid dome]

I went looking for art of a super injured knight but google only showed crummy ai art

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/black-knight-draw-monty-python-gif-8453752444373485023

[turbid dome]

Like not even decent quality ai art

[brittle grove]

just use the classics

[waxen nymph]

Direct cast only

[mighty cedar]

So when it says a mana cost afaik or maybe it’s an assumption but I believe that is counted as you casting the spell where as likenwith throw smite idol it does not consume mana and would not count but I am not 100% sure

[quiet hearth]

I think its direct cast only, but if it's a mana trigger that would be easy enough

now I need someway to give sent a cold skill

[turbid dome]

Wait, does sent really not have a single cold skill

[mighty cedar]

Only think I can think of is that spear that has a cold ability

[quiet hearth]

doesnt count sadly

[mighty cedar]

Then you are up a creek

[quiet hearth]

Someone get me boardmans paddle then

[mighty cedar]

Sent is phys, fire, lightning, void afaik

[turbid dome]

I woulda thought that there would be at least one cold ability somewhere as like an order of Lagon or hereot ability conversion

[quiet hearth]

There are a lot of strange gaps like that in the game

[mighty cedar]

I think smites electric stuff is called something lagon

[turbid dome]

Like on one hand I get it

On the other hand Paladin is worship the gods theme and a single cold or poison skill conversion would be neat for build ideas

[quiet hearth]

Like I said earlier, I think as the game expands and we get more items that's where we will get all the really wild conversions at some point

[turbid dome]

Yeah, we only get the electric half of Lagon

[turbid dome]

Fair

[quiet hearth]

I do feel they should have finished the story before full release though

[mighty cedar]

Please give me a cold lagon nose in RoS that lets me be a walking blizzard as they rotate around me

[turbid dome]

I still think forge guard should get a mecha transform skill and void knight should get a transformation if you get too void corrupted

[mighty cedar]

Yea that could be cool. A node to convert MA into an iron man suit

[turbid dome]

My thought is have it feel like power armor in fallout 4

Let him be a titan

[mighty cedar]

Hmmm I might take a break from my sent and make a spellblade I’m always intrigued by them

[gritty pasture]

I think it should be revamped to become iron suit by default. It would be amazing ! The one node should be to convert it to minion.

[quiet hearth]

manifest armor now works like lich form

[mighty cedar]

I feel like that would significantly change the theme of them though. What would you change about RoS then?

[quiet hearth]

RoS should just be a normal skill without worrying about the minion life

[mighty cedar]

Honestly if they removed the block chance of RoS and turned it into a buzz saw death blade I think that’s would slap ha

There are many interesting things inlike about RoS like the cast at location node… it just doesn’t have much support for any real use afaik

[brittle grove]

VK just starts losing his armour and starts sprouting tentacles and turns more purple by the second

[cursive rose]

every class should get a transform of some sort

[brittle grove]

well primalist already has like 5 or so

[turbid dome]

Paladin turns into a glowly bird person with 10 divine essences

[cursive rose]

yea share man

[brittle grove]

so fridge that guy

[mighty cedar]

Mage, Lich, and prime have some “form” …. I’m counting the sorc spell ascendcy or w/e haah

[brittle grove]

Mage has the " be completely broken and busted 2 patches in a row" transformation together falconer, they get nothing

[turbid dome]

Give spell blade an arcane form thing

[mighty cedar]

If you could give sent access to 1 skill or passive from any class what would it be and why? / how would you use it?

[brittle grove]

Meteor from sorcerer and revive coc fire warpath paladin

[waxen nymph]

Oo

I mean, Str Stacking Palarus + Meteor Belt + Devotion for Smite

[mighty cedar]

That seems broken ahha

Something in me wants to grab static or lighting blast or for spark charge pally ha

[quiet hearth]

For passives Natural Fortitude from Primalist so I can actually build regen

[mighty cedar]

What does that one do? And I mean it is pretty easy to get regen

[turbid dome]

Let sentinel steal teleport, flavor it as a void thing

Or the gain % of max life as endurance threshold from druid

Tho I would rather each sentinel mastery gets some conversion to physical on the tree

[quiet hearth]

not this easy

[turbid dome]

So like VK gets to convert void/poison/necrotic to physical

Paladin gets to convert the elements to physical

Forge guard gets a smaller amount but for everything

[waxen nymph]

I would rather have the Flat Regen

[mighty cedar]

Oh interesting and yea that is a crazy ammount of regen

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, you couple that with the bear set gloves and it's silly when you get the mono regen blessing

[turbid dome]

If your doing health regen at all yoink empowered Lagon’s health regen thing

+20 flat regen and up to 200% increased regen

[waxen nymph]

You get so much % Regen in Sentinel (Sigils for exemple)

[turbid dome]

Combo the bear set with dual wield shattered lance set

[quiet hearth]

lmao, the regen from sigils is nothing compared to that passive

[turbid dome]

Cause of that, I played a druid with that a while ago

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, I was planning on doing that at some point

[waxen nymph]

But if you dont have any Flat is useless

[turbid dome]

Lagon blessing + like one exalted hp regen affix

[quiet hearth]

And you have to be casting sigils or generating them. Meanwhile bearman too angry to die

[waxen nymph]

3% Per Str and you give up your whole Gloves slot
Not convinced

Even in addition with the passive you get 5% per Str

[quiet hearth]

that...that is 300% regen just for the gloves my guy, more than most people get. Primalist can hit 1k regen without blinking with those two.

[mighty cedar]

That’s what I’m saying ahha. That being said I would like smite to get a cold conversion I think that could be cool

[waxen nymph]

300% is ... What you get just with Swipe

[quiet hearth]

I am aware? the point is with just those two, regardless of build you can do it, adding swipe is just gravy

though I somehow completely missed up until today tempest strike had a proc while transformed node

[waxen nymph]

And again the rest of the Gloves is pretty meh

No hp, 75 armor, no AS

[quiet hearth]

all things that can be compensated easily elsewhere

Im not claiming it's S tier but it's a huge amount of regen

Wait..let me get serpent strike, maybe I can make it work on sent in this scenario xD

[waxen nymph]

I would love to see a planner to prove me wrong if you have one, or plan on doing one

[quiet hearth]

There is nothing to prove wrong, it's a huge amount of regen, I dont know what you are getting at here. It's almost like we have a different opinion that doesnt need to be validated because fun is subjective.

[waxen nymph]

I think the amount you get is not that high, and you will get more EHP with another pair of Gloves

But I would love to see smth new, and learn

[turbid dome]

I just think of it as don’t die to dot gloves

Max hit can be compensated for elsewhere

[waxen nymph]

Its is indeed more regen when I reach around 180 Flat HP regen with 147 Str

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXMYVpNA

Used this to play around

[quiet hearth]

3k regen lel

[waxen nymph]

I am a bit sad because I feel like this is pretty much the max you can achieve

[quiet hearth]

I mean that isnt including bonuses from swipe ect

[mighty cedar]

I’ve selected my wishes skill from another class and settled on runic invocation lol for pally and or FG

[polar spire]

hi just randomly popping in here to say, that isnt the max

natural fortitudes health regen per strength, makes the set bear gloves with the same effect, more health regen than normal heath regen affix'd gloves

also this one in shaman, if you run the fatty endurance shield gets real huge, real fast

dunno why you dont at least have the health regen idols on

werebear can run double health regen affix idols

but as a bm, you can go boar effect instead, which, surprised you didnt really take bear

you can get the health regen up to like 6k on a bm, even higher on a werebear

[mighty cedar]

Mommy coming in with the knowledge!

[polar spire]

i make a lot of really stupid builds, that dont normally work at all, but because i do, im excellent on this topic lmao

though im confused about the belt unless its just for more damage, azzural's has health regen on it, and a lot of it

[mighty cedar]

May I introduce you to my hamster ball shield throw build? Haha currently running ignite stacking but may swap it to smite fissure proc

[polar spire]

why fissure?

[mighty cedar]

Inlike trying to make thjngs work. Fissure is a dot that can scale with spell dmg. And with shield throw smite hamster ball I can get a large amount of stacks on single target.

[polar spire]

yea but the problem with fissure

is its done garbo damage for years, and even after recent slight buffs, its still garbo damage

the only real reason i can see to run fissure, is for the free smites if 0 mana, and devotion amulet, and using fissures massive mana cost to keep you low

and if you're just trying to empty the mana pool but wanna run shield throw, shield bash +5 ricochets into shield throw with lava bursts, smite on throw, and meteor belt, will empty that mana pool SO FAST

[mighty cedar]

Yup, my theory math had it at 1k lee second

[mighty cedar]

Fun fact, proced smites from throw and lava bursts do not cost mana

[mighty cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXMNjazA This is my current ignite build I am working on slowly. Right now I am at about 500ish stacks on a single target.

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (59) / Paladin (9)

General:

▸ Health: 1,523, Regen: 94.56/s
▸ Mana: 154.46, Regen: 9.81/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 1 Dex / 5 Int / 1 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 109% / 66% / 88% / 87% / 68% / 85%
▸ EHP: 5,008 / 5,008 / 4,588 / 6,510 / 5,008 / 4,672 / 5,008

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 91%, Threshold: 345
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (2,960)
▸ Block Chance: 56%, Mitigation: 40% (1,175)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Smite (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Shield Throw (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Maehlin's Hubris
• Thorn Slinger
• Tome of Elements

[cloud nymph]

whats the best sent summoner build rn

[lament star]

wait whats stopping us from farming shade of orobyss now ?

using the catch up mechanic from 1.1

[turbid dome]

Nothing?

[lament star]

oh wait i forgot it was capped at 300

which i only reached once

[mighty cedar]

oh that is nice

[turbid dome]

Ooo

[lament star]

is it possible to just decrease corruption then do 1 echo to respawn orobyss node ?

[turbid dome]

no idea, the devs probably thought of that

[alpine canopy]

Yes, and it's not capped at anything. Your current timeline just needs to be like 40c below your highest (not sure on that exact number, but it's not a ton)

Shade's drops scale with distance though, so you'll like basically just get a bunch of rings

[lament star]

i need belt

wait rlly ? i thought there was a cap at 300. mb then

[alpine canopy]

Then best way is still going out to the farthest one you can reasonably reach. Now you do have the option though of getting one timeline up to a high corruption and farming your Shade drops at 100c (or just lower than you normally would) because that 100c Shade will still bump your corruption up to 95% of your highest timeline + 6, which applies to its drops as well. Then you can just reset your corruption to 100 (or reduce a desired amount) immediately after, then rush to the next Shade.

of course lowering your corruption means you'll get less loot/xp from the echoes you rush through on your way to the Shade, so up to you how you want to run it

[lament star]

my dmg is so low right now i dont mind

what do ppl use sacrifical embrace with ? earthquake ?

[gleaming pine]

wow that's interesting. you can kill a 100c shade but get the drops from a 1000c shade?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, though I think the corruption it grants applies to the Shade's stats as well as its drops, so you're still fighting a 1000c Shade, just running 100c echoes. In theory.

[twilit valley]

Anyone here nice and good enough to help me with T4 Julra ? Really need to slam a item but I’m struggling with her

Someone here must be a godly player

I get her to 65% then panic and fail

Back to grinding and I’ll try again later , guess I have to get better

[copper walrus]

slam an item??

[turbid dome]

slam an item = you can add affixes to a unique item with legendary potential (look for the legendary item page in the game guide)

[twilit valley]

Cmon bro you must be godly to help with T4 julra

[copper walrus]

oh, right. It's random though, right?

Nvm, i forgot you use an exalted with it

[turbid dome]

if I wasn't drunk off my ass sure

[twilit valley]

Hennessy ?

[copper walrus]

its easier when you're drunk on your ass

[turbid dome]

rum

[twilit valley]

Enjoy

[copper walrus]

sailor jerry bby

[twilit valley]

Need to find myself eternal gauntlets t7 mana

Hopefully COF rng comes thru today

[waxen nymph]

I haven't seen a single person use them

[turbid dome]

how long have I been able to click on alric's corpse in campaign and hear his last words

[alpine canopy]

It just always seems better to have even the default crit multi than to have sac embrace

[turbid dome]

sac embrace?

[alpine canopy]

In reference to this, I just saw Vlad comment on it 😂

[gleaming pine]

what would i want to slam into this for standard vk levelling build? or would it be trash

[twilit valley]

Finally t4 Julra and hit my melee void dmg

Happy with this for now

[waxen nymph]

I have a plan for this

Because its always better to scales crit multi, you want to go Dot. But you need some hits on the side to get the Stacks. And you want to scale Crit chance to get the stacks faster

Void Disintegrate proccing Lightning Blast ⚡⚡😱😱🚀🚀

[cobalt blade]

if only nemesis boost the first prefix 🥲

[lament star]

jesus aberroth is so hard

so many dots which is the bane of my fg bash

the beams are overtuned. the last phase arena is smaller and u got to deal with so many things

im gonna spec full def i was missing the 15% less dmg over time and 5% less dmg taken (x2 with block) from the tree

[twilit valley]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Kikubear/character/Wigsplitter

Really happy with the progression of my hero now , just need to find a few more upgrades , I gave up my anchor of oblivion for a decent erased - only had 16 but it gave me t7 mana and void cleave ..

[cobalt blade]

of all things, the crit chance didnt get in

[twilit valley]

Yeah I have to farm a lp3 siphon myself

Time to shade hunt soon

[cobalt blade]

ayy welcome to the give-up-anchor-welcome-codex gang

[twilit valley]

Yeah only gave it up cause this is a bigger improvement / just have to find some more endurance on another item later

[twilit valley]

Trying to farm a 2lp world splitter , fun but many lp1 only so far . Will keep trying

[alpine canopy]

Ooh, I was thinking it doesn't work on channeled spells, but it seems like it might! And with the changes to channeling, a lot more just got viable. I'm actually thinking now a channeled hit spell could be ideal, so it builds up stacks while you use it. Maybe avalanche, since it also has a flat crit node that gives a non-multi on-crit effect?

HH maybe could be another option (can even do it as VK). I'll have to look into the meme capability when I get back to my computer.

[turbid dome]

Melee void damage and increased void damage ideally

Flat melee void dmg would be the priority, tho slamming that on a dreamthorn would be better

[gleaming pine]

thx!

[turbid dome]

Np, hf on vk

[cobalt blade]

how good is terrify?

[turbid dome]

It makes enemies run away from you

More importantly (to me) it lets you trigger on evade effects without moving

[cobalt blade]

Yea, I am thinking about it since warpathing dont really use dodge

[turbid dome]

Then go forth and slam double health suffixes and melee attack speed on it

Honestly a 4 lp of this glove is great even if you unbind terrify

[waxen nymph]

Why would it not work on Channeled Spells?

My other plan was to use Channeled Skybeam with the 4 HH per second

[alpine canopy]

Some of these effects specifically exclude them, I was either misremembering or just didn't think about it because most channeled skills used to be non-maintainable

Looking at the skills that can trigger it, channeled HH, avalanche, disintegrate, or maaaybe ghostflame are the main contenders. HH of course benefits from having access to tons of void support, so it might be the best.

[turbid dome]

Healing hands has void support?

[alpine canopy]

I kinda want ghostflame to be able to work just because you can move while channeling it

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, since it's available on sent and also VK

[turbid dome]

Oh ok, I thought you were meaning void damage on it

[waxen nymph]

There is no mention of Channeling Exception

I will try it on legacy
I think I have a pair

[quiet hearth]

nothing like making a build and realizing you chose the wrong mastery

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

Finally gotta make a VK this cycle

[turbid dome]

Void gang void gang

[quiet hearth]

[turbid dome]

[cobalt blade]

[quiet hearth]

and of course it's some memey stuff

[turbid dome]

Auto bomber?

Can’t just say that and not say what it is

[quiet hearth]

drive by ignite

[brittle grove]

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

I dont know if the instant is worth it, but that is the goal at least, the other option is to use eternal eclipse and VC, because with just the one fire node, VC counts as void and fire so you just add a ton of flat every 2s

[brittle grove]

you just got me an idea to use the 2 LP eternal eclipse i have laying around 👀

[turbid dome]

[woeful ivy]

is % dmg reflect > crit avoidance?

[brittle grove]

nope

because you still get crit and instagibbed

[quiet hearth]

For back up, I'm just using rive xD

[woeful ivy]

rodger just wanted to make sure i was thinking f it right

[quiet hearth]

That would be a cool spin on reflect, crit dmg is reflected back on the enemy

[woeful ivy]

im for it

[turbid dome]

Also for sentinel it’s generally easier to get reduced bonus dmg from crits, given the lion helmet is a thing

Either being at 100% does the same thing

Leon*

[waxen nymph]

Paladin has a lot of Crit Avoid too in passive

[turbid dome]

Ah

[waxen nymph]

Come with Armor too iirc

[brittle grove]

paladin, ewwwwwww

[alpine canopy]

% damage reflect is not a defensive stat at all, it just does some retaliation damage based on the post-mitigation damage you take

[mighty cedar]

Do I keep pushing my ingnite boy or take a break for some mage static fun

[alpine canopy]

Sounds like time for a new meme build

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

I support this movement

[turbid dome]

Man I love that sorc gets a disintegrate node for 1% more damage per 8 max mana

Only need like 450 max mana to break even given the node before it is 60% less dmg

[mighty cedar]

Would sorc or rune master be better for static?

[waxen nymph]

#🧙┃mage

[mighty cedar]

Shhh all of my friends are here

[turbid dome]

Hell if I know

I just shoot funni beam

[quiet hearth]

This beam of mine is burning red, it's loud sizzle tells me to grasp victory

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

what the fridge do we know, this is the bonk subthread, we only know about bonking stuff here

confused unga bunga noises

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-gif-26574498

[turbid dome]

confused being consumed by the void noises

[brittle grove]

thats not fair, you can post gifs

[turbid dome]

I wonder if a void knight somewhere has made a void-os cereal

[quiet hearth]

Clearly Vlad is abusing his mod powers

[brittle grove]

i have been turning aberroth into little void os for a week now, fridger doesnt even wanna come out anymore

[turbid dome]

My brain auto piloting and sending my lvl 21 sorc into monos

[waxen nymph]

Ngl this was the main reason I applied to be a Mod
No slowmode and gifs 😉

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

priorities, i can accept that

[alpine canopy]

I've seen spellblade maybe

[waxen nymph]

And being able to ban whoever disagree with me 🤫

[alpine canopy]

[quiet hearth]

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

on a related note to the subthread, i have found the sweetspot for ES mana stacker void knight.
at 1300 mana you can reliably support a t7 attack speed affix on your gloves
source : aberroth not finishing his first slam

[turbid dome]

You to the void simp

[brittle grove]

[turbid dome]

Did you just chop a grole in half

[waxen nymph]

Here the other half

[turbid dome]

You killed his friendo, the mythical cat dog grole

[brittle grove]

no, your exploding pineapple blew it's behind off

[turbid dome]

The pineapple is you throwing it at abberth

[quiet hearth]

[brittle grove]

sorry, i'm not throwing anaphylactic grenades at void beings, i throw axes, like normal people

[turbid dome]

You need more void corruption

[waxen nymph]

anaphylactic grenades

Love it

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-brad-pitt-thats-why-no-one-will-remember-your-name-gif-16617148

[waxen nymph]

I would love to repost your gif but I get Error 404

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

weird

[brittle grove]

i'm cruising at 1.5k, i dont wanna go higher, otherwise i have to play mechanics at the black sun harbinger

[turbid dome]

Not time line corruption, nothing can go wrong with me being 40% void at this point

[quiet hearth]

Engi is at least 25% void by volume at this point

[brittle grove]

i heard if you get to 75% corruption as a void knight, you turn into a politician, the hidden 6th class

[turbid dome]

Erm void has no volume cause it’s the void

[cobalt blade]

It taste purple

[turbid dome]

Did they buff that? I thought you needed over 100% to become a politician

[turbid dome]

Wicked gets it

[cobalt blade]

[brittle grove]

yes, cause there are entry level politicians as well

[turbid dome]

Dang

[cobalt blade]

there is no way to specifically drop leonine greathelm, yea?

[brittle grove]

correct

the only specific way is called RNG and pray

[cobalt blade]

prayge

[turbid dome]

They get pretty common above 200 corruption

[cobalt blade]

👌🏻

[brittle grove]

lies, all i get is the 5% movement speed base

[cobalt blade]

I just have to prayge harder it drops leonine with a T7 reduced cost

[turbid dome]

Why are you not filtering crummy bases out

[brittle grove]

cause otherwise i would never see t7 mana% affix on helmets

[quiet hearth]

You dont have your filter set to highlight and always show specific affixes?

[turbid dome]

Hide the base and have the item still appear if you get the exalted you want

You can do that

[cobalt blade]

it dropped! but not a leonine

[brittle grove]

thats too much effort, considering how rarely i get t7 mana%

[cobalt blade]

i guess i only prayge half

[steady garnet]

did smite get nerfed in the lsat 4 months ?

[waxen nymph]

No

Well, kinda if you procc it with Hammer Throw

[steady garnet]

fair :D

[lament star]

wait how about ghostflame with sacrificial gloves ?

[waxen nymph]

Let me try

[lament star]

peak meme ?

[waxen nymph]

If it works

Oh my only Warlock is only lvl 47 ... cant try

[alpine canopy]

That is my plan currently. Maybe I should test it in legacy before I commit to leveling a new char

[lament star]

700 added dmg effectiveness is pretty nice

btw is shield bash just not possible vs aberroth ? i feel like it really depends on rng of the void laser beams placement

only guide i saw, the guy killed aberroth before his 2nd slam

and i always die on the 2nd slam not because of the slam but because the beams are beaming the only spot i can wait at

[turbid dome]

Rebuke gaming

[lament star]

can u rebuke the slam lol ?

[quiet hearth]

funny that the end game boss cant hurt you as badly as some random chicken with a big rock

[turbid dome]

Through the power of apostate anything is possible

[lament star]

im a forge guard tho specced lots of defense

[quiet hearth]

You should always have space for rebuke, even unspecced it allows you to live through almost anything

[lament star]

i think ill ditch ring of shields

it will proc from passive tree anyway

[turbid dome]

Rebuke with no tree is still 80% DR

[lament star]

only 2sec tho

[quiet hearth]

Give me an item or node that just lets me channel and walk

[turbid dome]

Simply learn to time the rebuke

[lament star]

im gonna swim in the aoe pantless without duration

the slam has a hit and a dot aoe no ?

[turbid dome]

No idea, I do have a ton of hp regen tho

[waxen nymph]

I believe this is the Big Slam

[lament star]

3600dot

3600 per 0.25*

[turbid dome]

The take all void dmg as fire amulet is great for that

With a good amount of armor and armor applies to dot too

[lament star]

14400 per sec. maybe with my defense + rebuke i can make it

[turbid dome]

What’s your regen?

[waxen nymph]

Where do you get 14400 per second ?

[lament star]

3600 dmg per 0.25

[turbid dome]

3600 * 4

[lament star]

my regen is low

[quiet hearth]

14k/s, nbd really

[lament star]

but i think i can take it lemme calculate

[waxen nymph]

The base Dmg does NOT go through Added Dmg Effectiveness

[turbid dome]

Oracle amulet 🪬 + armor applies to dot will do work on this

[waxen nymph]

Its 3600 Dmg

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-avengers-endgame-drax-drax-the-destroyer-gif-20680379

[turbid dome]

3600 damage, 4 times a second no?

[lament star]

ooooh i see

wait huh.. idk

[waxen nymph]

Not sure honestly

[lament star]

interval is 0.25 so is it not 3600 x 4 ?

[waxen nymph]

I thought you were talking about Added Dmg Effect

It ticks for time a second for sure

But I dont know if its 3600 over the duration or per tick or per second

The hit is quite bonker ^^ 10k Dmg

[lament star]

10k is nothing when it gets mitigated by armor+block

[turbid dome]

Base on the word interval I assume it’s 3600 dmg every 0.25 seconds, so 3600 * 4 per second

[lament star]

what kills me is dot because block and armor doesnt nothing against it

[turbid dome]

Oracle amulet and armor applies to dot

[lament star]

unless we're talking about the armor mitigation from sentinel erased and gloves

[alpine canopy]

It's probably per tick damage shown, ailments show total, but skills usually do the per-tick

[turbid dome]

There’s a good reason every character of mine has oracle amulet and armor applies to dot on as much gear as possible

[lament star]

i swapped to oracle right before aberroth sent me definitively to SC

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, dots a bit much right now

[turbid dome]

It’s on gloves and a chest plate implicitly, erased relic and it’s an affix

[lament star]

im never playing HC again if bosses like aberroth exists

yeah i got sentinel and gloves alrdy with exp affix

[turbid dome]

Are they the base with implicit armor applies to dot?

Other than that dots are very deadly rn

[lament star]

oh ye got the armor too

[turbid dome]

Getting some void damage converted to phys (if not running eye) would help

Given armor is worse against not phys

[quiet hearth]

yeah, the fact that you 100% MUST have that affix right now should tell you something. I'd be fine with it if it was just at really high corruption but even at low levels dots really hurt.

[alpine canopy]

Hah, I somehow don't have a single pair of those gloves in legacy, but I have the warlock

[lament star]

noooooo i reach 900 dmg/sec

thats with 0% resist tho

[turbid dome]

0% res means your suffering 75% more incoming damage

[lament star]

oh no

i forgot about how pen and res works in this game

[turbid dome]

The pesky 75% pen everything gets

[lament star]

oh wait less dmg taken is additive unless its less dmg taken over time right ?

with rebuke i'd have 100% less dmg taken ? immortal ?

[waxen nymph]

All sources of "Less Dmg Taken" are multiplicatives

[turbid dome]

What Vlad said

If it was additive rebuke would heal you against elemental damage

[lament star]

well... im gonna try it. ill try to avoid the debuff and tank the slam. if i pot i'd get 15% additional less dmg taken over time

ill get my last pt in rebuke armor % node and prayge

[turbid dome]

What’s your max hp

[lament star]

2.5k

i never knew aberroth was this hard so i went with what i had

[turbid dome]

Gotta pump that hp up

[lament star]

ill yolo

i can still healing hands the dot if im quick

[turbid dome]

Get the less void dmg taken node on healing hands

[lament star]

oh i have endurance too i forgot/ got that too

[turbid dome]

Incorrect it’s both

[quiet hearth]

I was just about to say

[turbid dome]

Go go gadget double check the game guide

[lament star]

i died to first slam with rebuke

the dot got me not the hit

[quiet hearth]

Sounds about right

[lament star]

that's worse in last phase LOL

[quiet hearth]

Did you have it specced?

[lament star]

yep

duration / armor / persist

[quiet hearth]

No healing?

[lament star]

i mean i thought i could mitigate a lot but it sure aint the case

[turbid dome]

You need regen to deal with big dots

Go put on emp Lagon’s regen blessing

[lament star]

weird tho... only 5k dot and i died

[quiet hearth]

I mean, that is 5k/s, so uh, not THAT surprising

[lament star]

i mean i died in 1sec not 2

[alpine canopy]

@waxen nymph Okay, I had a lich in offline, was able to test since ghostflame is not mastery-locked and I collected all the pre-0.9 uniques in offline. Sac embrace definitely works on ghostflame 😁

[lament star]

i would have HH'ed if i saw my hp dropping

[quiet hearth]

embrace only works on hits, ghostflame isnt a hit

[turbid dome]

You only have half that as health

[alpine canopy]

I literally just tested it, the damage from consuming rite stacks definitely works

[lament star]

but my mitigation is not that bad. rebuke/ 15% less dmg over time from tree/ endurance /64% armor mitigation to overtime/ 81% armor mitigation

wait it only says the gloves grants flat void and pen to a spell never mentioned anything about hits tho

[turbid dome]

Keep in mind it’s 64% of your armor, then 70% of that applies to non physical dots

[lament star]

ooooh interesting

wait i got the new tech

ring of shield invulnerability for 1sec

[turbid dome]

So 100 * .64 = 64 * .7 = 44.8

Against non phys dot you have 44 armor for every 100 armor you have

This is why converting incoming damage into phys is strong

[lament star]

then i can healing hands

screw it im just gonna stay with rebuke to mitigate the dots from beams and avoid the slam

[turbid dome]

[mighty cedar]

jesus

[turbid dome]

Dang

[lament star]

geez the boss is a dps check... survived 2 slams and then i there was just too much on the ground

got him to 20% on a melee char i guess it'd be easy on a caster

[alpine canopy]

I love these random WW items that get double T7 resists lol

[turbid dome]

This is every arpg ever

[lament star]

well aberroth is way too much if melee and no dmg

rebuke got me to 3rd slam channeling but then no luck cuz i was too far from him and didnt see where the area was so i took dmg from every dot on the map

[turbid dome]

No dmg is a problem

[lament star]

its not if the mechanics dont involve spawning 100s of dots

[turbid dome]

Dots nerf when (or better dot defense)

[quiet hearth]

It really depends on how far you've gone in corruption honestly, past a certain point it's to be expected. And it's nerf, I'm tired of needing a billion different defense points.

[turbid dome]

True

The goal for most builds is 300 corruption (dev thought wise)

Anything else is limit testing

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, it's gonna take time to find that magic groove where things feel smooth. Still enjoying myself even if I have to split my time between two arpgs, or three when GD expansion hits.

[cobalt blade]

How rare is reduced channel cost

[quiet hearth]

It does seem fairly uncommon

[turbid dome]

If you look at a shard you have does it say uncommon/rare/very rare

Most class specific shards are at least rare

[quiet hearth]

its uncommon, I have two of them xD

[lament star]

i mean im sure my shield bash can go way higher than 300 with current build

[cobalt blade]

Copium

megacopium

[lament star]

oh reminds me that i also have a world splitter now

[brittle grove]

fridge you

[cobalt blade]

🥲

[brittle grove]

i have been trying to get that combo for WEEKS

and havent seen it

[cobalt blade]

i actually got 7 T7 %mana leonine in my stash Pepegun

Desire Censor

whr ish my Channel Cost

[brittle grove]

i will put channel cost

into my filter
and then video tape me
shattering an entire stash tab with it

[cobalt blade]

[lament star]

oh stygian beam + sacrificial could also work. since it hits a lot

[alpine canopy]

I don't think there's any way to make that an elemental spell though

[lament star]

ah rip i thought it was fire icon but it was poison

which makes me realize... isnt drain life the only poison hit based skill ?

anyway... sacrificial embrace looks garbage on avalanche ngl. however it kinda feels cool with earthquake (3x initial hit) ?

[turbid dome]

Sac with glacier?

Sac with void converted fire orb thing

[lament star]

volcanic orb ?

[turbid dome]

Yeah

Using lament of the lost refuge