🔱┃sentinel

[quiet hearth]

mana is always an issue for most builds

[vestal mirage]

im not really going off of a guide

planned skills atm - bash, throw, rush, healing hands, and sigils

[solid sedge]

Is the main skill bash or throw?

[vestal mirage]

bash

[solid sedge]

shouldn't 3 points in cutting edge basically cancel out the increaset cost for removing the CD? Then you only really need like 1 mana regen affix or the relic that gives -mana cost to melee attacks. How much does bash cost for you rn?

[vestal mirage]

15 atm, but i'm only 1/3 for cutting edge. so 9 per with 3/3. which wont be bad at all

only lvl 20 atm :p just curious

[warped helm]

yo, javelin question, melee flat damage affixes on spears do also contribute to 50% added damage to javelin yeah? just no melee damage from any other sources?

or is it exclusively the implicit

[olive saffron]

believe it is any added melee local to the spear.

[solid sedge]

fair. I'm not sure how that build goes, but I would think that cutting edge gives good dps? ya, 15 mana cost is pretty high.

[scenic gyro]

whats the consensus on what corruption lvl is the sweetspot when mf really starts falling off

[twilit valley]

Tbh I see no diff after 600

[scenic gyro]

yea felt the same for me thats why im asking
no point in making my life harder than necessary

the linear graph in tunklab must be outdated then

[terse hinge]

The graph on tunklabs isn't outdated. You can scale it as much as you want but like with any other stats, you get much less benefit per % the more you stack it.

[scenic gyro]

how does that work then

[winter copper]

for cof u want 800-1k

[terse hinge]

For example I am at 2.7k, and there is definitely way more loot dropping

[scenic gyro]

if the curve is linear how does more % give less, without any dr

[terse hinge]

To put it simply, the higher in corruption you go, the bigger your Increased Item Rarity, the more loot you'll drop.

If you have 100% and get an additional 10%, you essentially have 10% more. If you are at 1000% and get an additional 10%, that is only 1% more. So the higher in corruption you go, the impact of going say 100 higher will be less and less in comparison

[scenic gyro]

i get what you are saying but statistically going from 0 to 10% would be on average same increase in loot as going from 1000 to 1010 no? so there is no point in stopping the increase

[terse hinge]

Yes, no point to stop increasing except if you farm way slower

There is also increased LP chance for Uniques which scales with Corruption. Not sure on the formula there though

[scenic gyro]

thx for the explanation/input

[terse hinge]

Arguably, there could be an incentive to go super high corruption if the ratio of speed vs the extra item rarity you get is better. Anyways, you get the idea haha

[scenic gyro]

well its not that complicated after all, go as high as you can without compromising clear speed, thats about it

[cursive rose]

do phantom grips stack?

[signal cloak]

Was the amulet devotion nerfed in 1.0 or 1.1?

[magic panther]

i dont recall seeing anything regarding Devotion in the patch notes, but I could try to take another look.

nope, nothing

[late hedge]

Is there no way to show only dragonbone axes in loot filter for example?

nvm found it

[alpine canopy]

Yes

[alpine canopy]

No, wasn't touched afaik

[olive saffron]

hear me out

[vestal mirage]

jfc LOL

[iron basin]

has anyone tried a self-cast forge strike build, just slammin people with it?

[twilit valley]

2.7 new cycle ? Or old one

[hardy bronze]

Gonna be a bish to sustain the mana

[terse hinge]

New cycle of course

[iron basin]

I figure if you can get enough damage/area to kill packs in one or two slams, then it shouldn't take much between natural regen and the basic attack passive mana gain

bosses would be rough

[grim fog]

I love how nemesis lets you add some random Unique with 0 LP and then it stuff like this happens

[gentle cloak]

Yessss, I got a Humming Bee w/ 46 melee dmg and was like welp, guess I'm making alts!

[vestal mirage]

gooooodamn

[iron basin]

I've got a couple of those I've been saving for a buddy that wants to play the shield slam build.

[grim fog]

The Melee Speed is nice damn

[iron basin]

yeah, randomly has melee cold which is w/e

[grim fog]

still "melee"·

[vestal mirage]

gonna be using this one

[twilit valley]

Wow

[iron basin]

that's a good one

[vestal mirage]

leveling my shield guy rn

[warped helm]

or add some free poison res on a red ring 😄

[iron basin]

my shield guy is/was an experimental thorns build using the new threshold that forge guard got

it's not good but it's pretty funny watching unemp mobs kill themselves while I walk around

[twilit valley]

I haven’t pushed corruption yet , got 400 on my main then levelling up alt .. I’ll prob start pushing in a few days after alt hits 100

[true night]

Doing well on HH-Bolt Sentinel. I'm gonna need to really up my cast speed, cause the Bolts aren't as "everywhere" right now.

[grim fog]

Bolt¿

[iron basin]

I wish thorns had a way to scale the damage. as far as I can tell it's typeless so it doesn't have any kind of multiplier to it. it just ignores defenses so it's basically only good at clearing trash

[true night]

Divine Bolt.

[scenic gyro]

the reason you dont deal dmg with thorns build is that you only reflect dmg after YOUR mitigation
so the tankier you are, the less dmg you will reflect, so its exactly the opposite of what you would want

[iron basin]

there's a flat thorns stat in this game

[grim fog]

wait there is builds around that? Damn I've been out of the loop I guess

[iron basin]

enemies take exactly 669 damage when they hit me

[true night]

Iva Markova on YT has lots of them.

[twilit valley]

Wouldn’t it scale with bleed

[iron basin]

it's not a hit. doesn't apply ailments from what I can tell

[spark monolith]

it scales with a shield. Think its called thornshield

[iron basin]

Sigeon's Reprisal and Thornshield both scale it, sorta

Thornshell

the real problem with flat thorns is that it wants you to get hit a lot. fine for trash, really really bad for bosses, rares, or things that use DoTs as their damage

[spark monolith]

Use reflect % damage

works on dots

[iron basin]

only problem is then you run into the issue mentioned earlier where that actually gets worse as you get tankier

if shield throw wasn't garbage in single target it could actually solve the ST issue with sigeon's reprisal. if there were a skill that scaled with thorns somehow then you could handle bossing with that

[spark monolith]

I'm at 1050c with reflect damage. I utilize a shield with reflect damage and ring of shields. Ring of shields take your shield's stats. With 8 shields and increased minion life you annihilate bosses. Its the low damage things that are a pain

[iron basin]

that's interesting. I didn't know that RoS would get the reflect stats too

[spark monolith]

Use reflect idols as well

[grim fog]

Will Sigeon's Reprisal work well with the Monument of Protection?

[iron basin]

you're probably better off with a good exalted shield for the bash build

[grim fog]

What if I get a 2 LP 1?

it would be funny but p sure not good damage

[iron basin]

Sigeon's has low block chance on its own. The implicits for a better base would go further I think

and low block effect

[grim fog]

I guess I dont need Unique Shield. I recall the Weaver Shield being p good if it rolls right

[vestal mirage]

ye it's decent

the ward gain is pretty nice. but im also still just leveling so it's hard to tell

[iron basin]

do y'all think fire melee or phys melee for forge strike slams

[sterile latch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/wushibin96/character/Wuuu

Hahaha I think the rings affect falconer minions too

New rank 1

[iron basin]

people are using the rings on any minion build because they give base minion crit and +2 ranks to minion skills. they're kinda nutty

[sterile latch]

Maybe

One ring is only 65%

[iron basin]

look at the amulet. it's a necromancer amulet but gives minion crit multi, so they use it

the glove buff is 99% likely to be irrelevant. it's just easy access to skill ranks and base crit

[sterile latch]

Rank 1 is running a kestrel too. That seems kinda budget to me

[winter copper]

its bis armor for that build

[quiet hearth]

which is a problem honestly, it shows there isnt enough itemization in the space

[outer hedge]

my magnifest armor having zoomies now doing jubi sliding back around me

https://tenor.com/view/jubi-slide-tiktok-dance-gif-12677376612573891266

[sweet hazel]

Best one you can get on this is %Crit Chance

It's the fundamentally necessary stat for the shieldbash build to really take off

[grim fog]

I mean yea but this is the first drop of the Unique I got im still really early for me. Im like LV 29 xD

[sweet hazel]

Oh true, nice!

[grim fog]

Yea just gonna do story till I get back to Fortune

Cause I got the Unique with no LP on a dif character and now im lvling a new 1 to get the build done

[gentle cloak]

Nemesis spits out some wonky stuff. Like not even uniques. Just some items that I'm like....is this usable?

[quiet hearth]

I mean it just does the normal generation for rares, you normally dont notice because it's hidden by your lootfilter.

[sweet hazel]

You can get some crazy Exalted items from it, though.

Pre-sealed affixes, two exalted affixes type of stuff

[quiet hearth]

They get really good once you get into deep monos

[olive saffron]

And I love it. Lots of exalted that make me want to go make a build.

[iron basin]

i wonder what all skills I should be using for a forge strike slam build

[quiet hearth]

Forge strike

[iron basin]

I've got javelin for armor shred and 60% more damage

[olive saffron]

Javelin for -25 cost

[iron basin]

lunge for mobility/culling. probably sigil for buff

[quiet hearth]

Javelin is a trap, you want one of the skills that can proc time and faith for mana restore

If you're not gonna use MS for auto FS, I'd say rive for the mana restoration node inside of it for no CD, otherwise it's whatever you think feels good.

[gentle cloak]

A Nem gave me this axe. And it's like....huh. It's not insane or anything, but that's a decent axe.

[quiet hearth]

usually those get something silly when you slay a harbi

[sweet hazel]

I've been looking for a good rolled Kolheim axe to put on my cold upheaval werebear, actually.

When you a kill a Harbinger with it, it gets added cold damage in place of the 'Upgrades' implicit.

[quiet hearth]

yeah, the shattered lance set is super strong with all the regen primalist can get

[sweet hazel]

That's what I've been building 😛

[quiet hearth]

You can easily hit 500% regen, so that's what...1200% or so?

[gentle cloak]

ohhhh you have to kill it WITH it? I had it in my inventory and I literally just killed a harbi. I was like what gives?

[sweet hazel]

Yeah it has to be equiped.

[quiet hearth]

Ok that is lame AF

[olive saffron]

Equip. Press culling ability. Collect reward

[quiet hearth]

Those are dead items then imo

[sweet hazel]

Eh it's fine. My strategy is that once the Harbinger gets to 2% health I just equip it real quick.

Game only checks if you have it equipped when a Harbinger dies, not if you killed them with it or anything.

[quiet hearth]

Doesnt matter, that is TERRIBLE design

[sweet hazel]

idk the 2h sword, Macahuatil (literal aztec obsidian sword) has some crazy potential for a bis bleed weapon

[olive saffron]

I never even thought about the upgrade thing. Just assumed it upgraded affixes or something lame. Will have to check stash tomorrow if I kept any

[sweet hazel]

Yeah (100%-355% chance to upgrade when a Harbinger is slain) is replaced with an implicit that gets minimum or maximum roll based on that percentage.

[quiet hearth]

my message was eaten, I really wish they told me what word did it, if I had to guess it was g*mp

And imo it's not worth it, you have to intentionally g*mp yourself for a crapshoot, that does not feel good. Especially the way harbis work

[sweet hazel]

Macuahitl

+(105% to 145%) Chance to apply Bleed on Melee Hit
(35% to 45%) Increased Bleed Duration```

[gentle cloak]

I wish I'd known that before the fight, that's rough. My weapon does nothing for me anyway so the swap would've been fine

[olive saffron]

There is always next time

[sweet hazel]

I mean it could be reworked to just be in your inventory, but it really don't make a significant difference because you can just equip it literally when the harbinger is one-hit from death.
I've upgraded many items that way

[gentle cloak]

😦 but my (mid) World Splitter just dropped and it's supposed to be alt tiiiiime

[quiet hearth]

Yes let me enter my inventory and equip a diff wpn in one of the most dangerous fights in the game just to gamble, no thanks

It needs to be in inventory for it to be worth it imo, no way around that. Making players builds worse just to have a chance is bad design.

[sweet hazel]

I think both the harbingers are absurdly easy, but yeah, I get the point.

[quiet hearth]

harbis are not easy

[sweet hazel]

They're both pretty easy, any comptetent build can basically just facetank their attacks. Even my novadin hammers has no trouble with them because their attacks are mega telegraphed and don't do that much damage.

Lagon's a harder boss fight than them, lol.

[alpine canopy]

The upgrades aren't that big of a deal, you just upgrade them if they are already good anyway

[quiet hearth]

Now I know you're trolling, there are literal videos of people being instantly deleted

[gentle cloak]

I personally found the ones I fought boring more than anything. I'm in low corruption ofc, but base harbis are just sponges if your DPS is bad.

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, it's not an RNG implicit, each type gets the same implicit roll based on that.

[quiet hearth]

That's better, but still no reason for it to need to be equipped.

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, same exprience, and I just breached 1k corruption. They're really just super spongey, they aren't that threatening.

[quiet hearth]

We're gonna agree to disagree, I'm not going to argue about it and blow up chat again.

[alpine canopy]

I think the upgrading thing is kinda neat, if it was just something that happened for free (like being in your inventory), then it would just be a minor annoyance and may as well not exist at all imo

[quiet hearth]

It's not free, you have to get the item and kill and end game boss

[sweet hazel]

Also true, could just have it be a regular rollable implicit.

[olive saffron]

I mostly die to harbingers because I am melee and refuse to have downtime.

Also because Lagon’s arena is tiny

[iron basin]

i still haven't done the lagon harbi

[sweet hazel]

Lagon's harbinger I found easiest to deal with by mostly staying in the middle and just cycling up and down, in an eliptical pattern.

[iron basin]

do you fight it on the ledge or the central plaza?

[sweet hazel]

Up on the ledge. She still uses her standard attacks, summons waves, and occassionally does a spout of Lagon's beam.

[iron basin]

gross

[sweet hazel]

Waves and beam don't do nearly as much damage as Lagon's versions, but still dangerous. It's mostly that Harbinger's fire spear that's dangerous.

[gentle cloak]

I am also melee, but maybe Rahyeh's is weaker? It does a lot less dmg than Rahyeh, that's for sure.

[olive saffron]

Her targeting seems weird with pets. It will telegraph the wrong way for a few frames and then adjust.

[sweet hazel]

Also I got my first ever Red Ring last night. 😄

and it rolled nearly perf. 5/20/19/18/20

[sweet hazel]

I've heard her fire spear has weird targeting with minions from a friend of mine, yeah.

[gentle cloak]

ooh gz

[glacial stream]

does vengeance end after it performs a riposte or do you riposte all attacks for the next 2 seconds?

[gentle cloak]

The riposte stance ends, I believe.

Unless you took the Double Riposte node.

[olive saffron]

Yup, that’s the one. Although I also did to some void wave that seems to have no telegraph sometimes

[sweet hazel]

You mean the one where she puts a diamond shaped void hole in the ground?

She lifts her spear above her head and slams in to the hole, if so, and then another hole appears under you, always misses as long as you're moving.

[quiet hearth]

playing LE while watching a POE youtuber talk about GD, what a great time to be into arpgs

[vestal mirage]

weaver enjoyer

[quiet hearth]

weave nation certified

[mighty cedar]

that is alot of res

[sweet hazel]

Two sun seals huh?

[vestal mirage]

no clue if the effect stacks. they were just my best leveling rings for this bvuild

[sweet hazel]

The auto cast doesn't stack, but the +sk and +duration do

[vestal mirage]

i'll prob replace it eventually but it's pretty nice tbh

60% armor and endurance capped at lvl 55 lmao

[quiet hearth]

that is a lot of sigil duration

[vestal mirage]

• maxed in the tree

also i can't decide what my last skill should be. I'm thinking rebuke but idk how useful that is

[quiet hearth]

rebuke is amazing for not dying

[vestal mirage]

all this build does is not die

[quiet hearth]

Unspecced rebuke is still 80% DR and it can go even higher

[vestal mirage]

I'm using it for mana regen lmao

[sweet hazel]

I seem to always have specced rebuke in my kits.
Having 60% less elemental damage taken, big bonus armor, and then extra duration + haste, attack speed and more after channeling is great.

[sterile latch]

Yeah but 60% less of 20% is still you not getting 1 shot and healing in this game is ridiculous

[vestal mirage]

I'll prob stick with rebuke

[sweet hazel]

What's cool about the left part of the skill tree is you can make it so you have like 5 seconds of all those buffs after rebuke, helps a lot when tanking dot sources and whatnot.

[sterile latch]

Oh I did not know that. Only knew right part doubled the duration

[sweet hazel]

Plus I prefer it over Volatile Reversal. Volatile's gameplay requirements are just too bizarre for me.

[vestal mirage]

yeah not a fan of reversal either

did you see steelmage die because of reversal lmao

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, there's three nodes that give you the buffs for half your Rebuke duration, increased by up to 30% if you take the furthest right node, and then you can take the increased duration node as well for base rebuke.

[sweet hazel]

I believe it. I've died a lot because of it. It's a very powerful skill but the tradeoff is adapting to the muscle memory of using it is big.

[outer hedge]

how important is stun immunity for minions like magnifest armor?

[vestal mirage]

he got 2 kills on abby and then killed himself with reversal on his 3rd

[sweet hazel]

😅

[sterile latch]

Meh imo

[outer hedge]

i kinda thought so too - just got 3 level up MA helmet

so not sure what to put in now..shred armor or fire melee dmg

MA is up to lv 25 now though

[iron basin]

I try to find literally any way I can to get away with not using VR. Can't stand the gameplay around it

it's frustrating how strong of a damage buff it is in most builds that use it because it feels mandatory when it fits

[vestal mirage]

I feel the same way about sigils but orians makes it so much more bearable

[iron basin]

that's the autocast ring, yeah?

[vestal mirage]

yep. and + duration and + skill

[gentle cloak]

It's such a good ring honestly

[vestal mirage]

so good that I'm currently using 2 :p

[smoky wagon]

is there a certified good warpath build that ppl use? new to sentinel and just hit monos. want to spin and win

[sweet hazel]

Yeah. I just don't like how the damage buff requires you to group up enemies first. Especially as you get deeper in to like 1.5k corruptions, grouping enemies is a death sentence

[iron basin]

I'm too ADHD to get that high in corruption. I get to around 300 to 400 and start leveling new characters

[vestal mirage]

same

[sweet hazel]

Fair. My Novadin is 1,081 right now but I have started a Primalist and a Sorc. I plan to do a D2 style nova sorc though.

[iron basin]

Leveling my forge slam character now. it's entertaining critting bosses during campaign for half their health

[vestal mirage]

slam go brr

my favorite part is being literally invincible. im doing normal monos rn and can afk forever

I just wish the area of it was a biiiit bigger. it's a lot of points if you want to invest in area in the skill tree

also if I could get +4 shield bash on a relic or weaver will that'd be actual godtier

[iron basin]

I think with some CDR boots and belt rolls I could get the cooldown on forge strike to a good enough point to not worry about the nodes that remove the CD and just focus on damage output

[vestal mirage]

I could see it

[sweet hazel]

I was actually using a Rive/Forge Strike build last cycle that worked for this. Used the Rive that pulled enemies in, then I'd forge strike them.

[iron basin]

could be something to try. Right now I'm basically treating it like an old PoE slam build. Press buffs, slam screen

rive pull is too stationary for what I'm looking for

[vestal mirage]

is it worth using titan heart with this dual wield shield build? even without the flat dr the stats on it are crazy

and mine has +11 strength

[crimson smelt]

Guys, level 1 Forge Guard on Wave 1107, do you have any ideas which build is he playing? I am new with forge guard and i have no idea, is it a minion build? What stats are required for this build, how it synergices etc

[quiet hearth]

It's a snapshoted minion build

[crimson smelt]

so the most dmg comes from manifest armor?

[quiet hearth]

Think it's tanking I havent looked at it Im just familiar if it's existence, it's on maxroll I think

[crimson smelt]

i cant find this build nowere. There is so high gap between Nr1 1107 and Nr2 610 that i think that he found and used some kind of bugs.

[digital dagger]

does Rive Void Knight needs to have "chance to ignite/bleed" affix if I equipped "Smelter might" node ?

[quiet hearth]

No, that just gives ignite and bleed

[vestal mirage]

shield bash scales with attack speed right? or is it cast speed?

[quiet hearth]

it only scales with AS if you have the node for it

[vestal mirage]

hmm

I can already tell my boss damage is gonna be real bad. do I need to go a bleed build or something?

[quiet hearth]

no? hit SB is one of the big builds of this cycle, are you using the 1h shield axe thing?

[vestal mirage]

yeah I am

I'm still in the normal mono stage so it's not like I'm endgame atm

having like 30 more passive points will help a lot

[turbid dome]

passives help a ton

[sweet hazel]

You will need to stack crit for the build to really come online. It does mediocre damage until then. That's why having +3%-10% base melee crit chance rolled on to the weapon is critical for the build.

[vestal mirage]

gotcha. my weapon is pretty set then

[sweet hazel]

Also you will need Horns of Uhkeiros if you don't have one already.

[vestal mirage]

I've got one. Just dont have the level for it yet. Only started this guy today

[sweet hazel]

Gotcha, then yeah, it should come online just fine endgame. It is a pretty slow monotith running build but it excels against bosses

Other than that you're stacking Strength, Block Chance and Block Effectiveness on every piece of gear along with the normal stats.

Build uniquely gets more damage from Block Effectiveness

[vestal mirage]

I am out of glyphs of envy so I'm running the last couple normal monos manually. despair

[sweet hazel]

I was trying to farm Horns of Uhkeiros to make a build of my own around shieldbash but I killed EoC like 50 times and didn't drop a single one

[vestal mirage]

OOF. I've gotten a few but i dont think any ones with LP. I'd have to check

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, just RNGesus, lol. Meanwhile on my second clear of Lightless Arbor I got a 2% off perf roll Face of the Mountain with 2LP.

288%/5 all att

[vestal mirage]

with 5 sigils up I'm at 91% block chance lmao

[sweet hazel]

That's wild, lol. Especially with stacked effectiveness and armor, nothings hurting you

Well, except DoTs. They still suck, but that's Sentinel life. 😂 💀

[vestal mirage]

all buffs active and im 96%

only issue is im running into mana cost issues atm. I need those boots from arbor

[worthy rampart]

Anyone try a Forgeguard Flame convert Warpath, going for scepter fire pen, and spell dmg, with an ignivar's head on the side quip for fire aura?

[sweet hazel]

Yeah that's the biggest problem with SB build. Mana is ROUGH for it.

[vestal mirage]

do i even need crit avoid if im 100% block chance

[turbid dome]

given you reduce damage based on block effectiveness yeah

or reduced bonus dmg from crits, either or

[vestal mirage]

nemesis blessed me

[turbid dome]

nemisus an't that sus

[vestal mirage]

why did it have to be spell man

[turbid dome]

Smite

[vestal mirage]

just some random res sadly

[turbid dome]

Darn

[vestal mirage]

bruh

[stiff sierra]

hmm... guess posting links to the youtube vids and build links on LE Tools isn't allowed?

seeking some advice from experienced VKs. Just started a VK for the first time this cycle. I just hit 85 and have a world splitter. Been playing some erasing strike builds and about to respec, and I am seeing two archetypes right now:

Mana stacking, running void cleave, abyssal echoes, and volatile reversal (the series that Captain Battlaxe put together)

Or the healing hands variety that MinMaxRPG posted recently.

(I've also followed the bonk knight from previous cycles).

My first 85 levels, I was having some sustain issues (didn't have enough survivability and was mana starved... know my gear needed love)

I'm curious what experienced VKs are seeing, and if there's a recommendation for a VK scrub as to a direction to go (or tweaks to existing guides that might be worth pursuing).
(example: I see minmax and bokchoy both used the node in void cleave to guarantee crit for erasing strike, reducing the need to get crit on the gear and reduce mana starvation vs the end game build from battlaxe).

[vestal mirage]

You can link builds

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEGyDa7A

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 73

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (51) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,558, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 160.87, Regen: 10.41/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 61 Str / 4 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 78% / 70% / 74% / 92% / 47% / 105%
▸ EHP: 5,578 / 5,363 / 5,096 / 7,257 / 5,742 / 4,785 / 5,363

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 312
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 55% (3,099)
▸ Block Chance: 48%, Mitigation: 72% (4,553)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 59%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Shield Bash (21)
• Shield Rush (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Ring Of Shields (21)

Used unique items:

• Decayed Skull
• Titan Heart
• Monument of Protection
• Cradle of the Erased
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[stiff sierra]

hmm, I got a message saying my post was denied because it had restricted content

[vestal mirage]

There's a save/share button on the left. Get the link from that and you should be able to send it here

[stiff sierra]

might have been that I was trying to use link formatting

[vestal mirage]

Could be

[stiff sierra]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj7kz9vo

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (68) / Forge Guard (25)

General:

▸ Health: 3,395, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,541.02, Regen: 18.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 78% / 87% / 144% / 61% / 81% / 81%
▸ EHP: 8,700 / 8,096 / 7,613 / 10,297 / 8,700 / 7,613 / 7,613

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 883
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,596)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Anomaly (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Titan Heart
• Shattered Chains
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• The Inevitable
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Orian's Eye

[vestal mirage]

Might be a question for tomorrow when chat is more active. Seems like most are asleep rn

[stiff sierra]

yeah, good call

[vestal mirage]

Speaking of which, why tf am I awake still

[stiff sierra]

good question

[robust lake]

ello fellow paladins, do we value bleed pen above all else at any time, or if we are above 100 already - phys/duration or more chance is more valuable to us?

[river remnant]

this is a bust right? I assume the phys damage wont help with ES?

[brittle grove]

Es doesn't skill with Phys. So it's a rip

[river remnant]

thought so, thank you 😄

[brittle grove]

For rarer items aka world splitter with LP I try to avoid items that have nothing on it that helps stat wise in order to not slam useless stuff. Unless it was a free nemesis slam then ignore the advice

[ripe socket]

With volatile reversal, can I have a void rift at the start and arrival? I only see some circle at my starting point

I have taken both nodes in the skill tree though

[waxen nymph]

Yes you can,

[ripe socket]

Ok but why is there no visual indication at the place where I arrive? Where I leave i briefly see a purple circle

ah ok... maybe I see it if I look extra carefully... They could really make that effect better...

[waxen nymph]

^^

[obtuse perch]

What do you guys do with an egg if you have nothing to put in? Banish empower or challenge?

[ripe socket]

challenge

I think it will be replaced by some other random item? At least I then sometimes got something I didnt see before

banish almost never makes sense anyway, only if you are afried the Nemesis would kill you. Not sure what happens with empower with an empty egg, but probably nothing...?

[obtuse perch]

I wonder if it might be worth to empower instead.

[waxen nymph]

Empowered

Always Empowered ^^

[obtuse perch]

I mean I always banish if I see nothing I want.

[ripe socket]

why not challenge? you get a number of shards at least

[obtuse perch]

I mean what would I fight it for? Loot that I won't pick up? A handful of shards to put on top of my pile of infinite shards?

[ripe socket]

Sure, at some point you dont really need those anymore..

[obtuse perch]

Is there a benefit VS challenge and if its then a unique you like, put it into the next egg?

[marsh warren]

Ill take it!!

[obtuse perch]

Immortal Ignite build lol.

[gentle cloak]

I, too, will take it.

[prime stirrup]

Bastion of Cope with Shield Bash: does it work or not really?

[topaz quest]

anyone tried dual wield palarus sacred light? do you get double the damage from stats and free cast chance?

[gentle cloak]

Not sure about Bastion given the way its worded, but I don't own one so I couldn't test. For Palarus, yes but tbh it's not really worth dw them.

[lament star]

my vk died to owobyss

whats a good starter build i can play now 🤔 (any class)

[gentle cloak]

hc toon?

[lament star]

yep

i died to meteor got oneshot

[gentle cloak]

damn RIP, sorry to hear that o7

[lament star]

well its a common thing with me 🤷 not the first not the last

now i just need a solid build 🤔

[gentle cloak]

I enjoyed Ignite Falconer last league. Didn't push corruption super hard with it (and a passive didn't work that gutted my dmg), but going back to bleed should be similar.

[midnight lichen]

hey there does anyone know if the penetration from the conviction passive works with forged weapons?

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt say minion so no

[waxen nymph]

When you Empower it empower the unique from the egg from the get go, so I dont see any reasons not to

[prime stirrup]

Looks like a no, from personal testing.

[rigid rain]

Hey does anyone mind looking at my vk warpath? I zoomed through campaign easily, monos were a bit tricky but ok and now Im getting deleted in empowered monos and have no idea what im doing wrong
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbZaazpQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 81

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (49) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,187, Regen: 65.43/s
▸ Mana: 208.91, Regen: 9.75/s
▸ Ward Retention: 23%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 17 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 58% / 115% / 105% / 146% / 75% / 50%
▸ EHP: 2,180 / 1,871 / 2,180 / 2,653 / 2,180 / 2,180 / 1,738

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 237
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (30)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,102)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Shield Rush (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Carcinization of Momentum

[obtuse perch]

I mean if it turns out to be vendor trash you wasted an empower.

[waxen nymph]

I havent open the planner yet, and I already see your biggest issue
1.1k hp is not enough. Not even close

[waxen nymph]

I would have become trash on another empowered anyway

It wasnt meant to be good

[obtuse perch]

I mean you could have rolled a new random unique instead of using the empower. And that new random unique could be something you want to empower.

[waxen nymph]

Then you Challenge the second time

If after the 1st Empower its bad, Challenge the 2nd encounter

[obtuse perch]

Why not banish?

[waxen nymph]

Because when you kill you get more Shards

[obtuse perch]

I am swimming in shards.

[rigid rain]

fair but like nothing in my build is going well, resistances are pretty good but my damage is weak, hp is weak, idk what to do at this point

[olive saffron]

Must kill everything in path.

[waxen nymph]

Then do what you want 😄
I like Empowering all the way through because I like the gamble
You never know

[waxen nymph]

If empowered monos are really unbearable, go farm lvl 90 monos a bit

[obtuse perch]

Although I'm not good enough at statistics to really gauge the advantages of 2 random uniques VS 1 random unique with a random mutation.

[rigid rain]

should i be getting blessings from every normal mono first?

[obtuse perch]

Conveniently, the one that have blessings that translate to player power are all on the right side.

[rigid rain]

yeah i only did the ones on the right

[obtuse perch]

Also just pick whatever blessing seems best, don't farm them.

[rigid rain]

so its not worth going back to get the blessings from the left?

[obtuse perch]

I personally do all the timelines on my cycle starter but that's because I like consuming content.

[olive saffron]

You have endurance on a lot of your gear. Endurance is very underwhelming right now. Replace with HP / resistances. You have crit multi on the sword and ignored the Cyclone of War passive which is +2-10% BASE crit. You can get points back from taking out of Unchained mana cost, moving 1 to Reckless spin mana cost (2 Unchained and 1 Reckless is pretty close to mana neutral).

[gentle cloak]

I would think not taking the cull passive is kinda rough, no?

[obtuse perch]

HP = endurance threshold anyway.

[rigid rain]

awesome, thank you!

[olive saffron]

Also, you basically have no belt slot. The little resists it gives are already over cap.

[gentle cloak]

Presumably the belt would be replaced with Shattered Chains once you can survive emp monos?

[olive saffron]

For weapon, Apathy's Maw is very accessible. If you can get yourself to the point wher you can somewhat clear the empowered monos, the weapon is a 25% drop chance. Or you can push non-empowered to 50 corruption but that may take a bit of time. https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcEYHYE4g

[rigid rain]

it only drops from Orobyss right?

[olive saffron]

Correct

[rigid rain]

sounds good, thank you

[obtuse perch]

Old, new

Also, I can keep the old (as well as the new) for legendary slams.

[stiff wagon]

does the phantom grip affix - gloves stats affecting forged weapons - stack if i equip two of them?

[olive saffron]

feeling pressured to re-visit forge strike bleed

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[haughty canopy]

start a shadow beacon es vk?

[mighty cedar]

Good morning fellow sentinal s

[gentle cloak]

I'd always thought it'd be fun, but then I worry that stacking many bleeds would be better than big bleed bonk.

Also good morning broodboy.

[olive saffron]

FS has so many bleed multipliers though to make up for the speed

[gentle cloak]

It has a lot of pen for sure for a base skill. If only it scaled crit multi outside the tree like Salt the Wound :/

[mighty cedar]

I wish there was an EXP bar on weavers will stuff

[olive saffron]

ah, didn't notice the crit multi was only from local

[gentle cloak]

Yeah it's super lame that way. However, I could see that Viscera bonk build someone was talking about yesterday working here (I know you had up an axe but still).

[olive saffron]

was me. I was in a food coma and cooking bad memes

[gentle cloak]

Oh well there you go haha. I was literally just searching for it.

[mighty cedar]

I have geared myself into a coreber with my gerar T.T

[olive saffron]

#🔱┃sentinel message

[gentle cloak]

I support your meme now. Viscare FS bleed bonk, Rebuke for giga tank, Warpath during cd for FWs (use them for ward instead of dmg?), still use StW because it lets you scale pen and gives good phys res...

[haughty canopy]

lol with onos tull, beekeeper gloves and a bleeding 2h axe.. RIVE bleeds

[obtuse perch]

Ok so I suddenly realized, one incentive to keep doing these harbingers is because they can drop needles.

[mighty cedar]

the last laugh seems like such a bait ha

[haughty canopy]

free cull

lol using this for foehammer as lvling weap

[simple raven]

thats an insane wep for leveling 😄

[haughty canopy]

esp rive

lol 2x damage

[mighty cedar]

thats alot od res

[haughty canopy]

nice pen smirk

[mighty cedar]

lighting jav or electrify smite

[haughty canopy]

smite

[mighty cedar]

currrently trying to work my way out of my gear rock and a hard palce

[violet crane]

Any fun builds sentinels have?

[haughty canopy]

big bonks?

[mighty cedar]

Shield throw all day every day

[acoustic cobalt]

I have a question regarding HH. Does the Cleric's Hammer node Work with Unbroken Prayer/Skyfall?

[gentle cloak]

I'd assume no, as I don't think you can trigger a channeled ability.

[simple raven]

stay away from thorns. madness lie there.........

[haughty canopy]

question regarding rive.. worth taking the scrap metal node or keep the swords

[simple raven]

if u dont go anything minion, its worth taking scrap metal

[haughty canopy]

going pure bonkness i guess

might have to drop onos tull and beekeepers

[acoustic cobalt]

i really did enjoy playing HH-Cleric's hammer last season so I was wondering if I could play it again, despite nerfs :( but only builds I find are Skyfall builds and I feel like they won't work properly on controller

[mighty cedar]

What do I need to do to work my way out of useing these set pieces? everything I try or replace with them just tanks my DPS ha

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7e371OA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 79

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (52) / Forge Guard (15) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,073, Regen: 22.14/s
▸ Mana: 103.93, Regen: 10.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 0 Dex / 5 Int / 4 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 109% / 67% / 59% / 86% / 30% / 114%
▸ EHP: 3,002 / 3,002 / 2,790 / 3,301 / 3,062 / 2,322 / 3,002

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 68%, Threshold: 270
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (38)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,529)
▸ Block Chance: 49%, Mitigation: 33% (689)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Shield Bash (20)
• Manifest Armor (20)
• Shield Throw (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Decayed Skull
• Blade of the Forgotten Knight
• Defiance of the Forgotten Knight
• Font of the Erased
• Locket of the Forgotten Knight

[haughty canopy]

think set is kinda in a bad place rn

[mighty cedar]

Correct i agree as it has noe scalability but yea ha

[gentle cloak]

There's that one lady's Divine Bolt build that's HH-Cleric; I'd imagine it'd work well enough on controller given the projectiles.

[acoustic cobalt]

where my i have a look at it?

[waxen nymph]

Amulet is nice-ish for Base Skill on Spells like DOrb
Sword is nice as an off Hand > Flat and Haste on hit
Shield is ...........................

[gentle cloak]

https://youtu.be/TZZltVq0Eyk?si=ldJrF4V6TlKiKhSO

[mighty cedar]

I k now I agree, but the block + the void increase....... every time I swap a shield in it just tanks my TT dmg because of the shield throw node of more dmg 50% of block

[acoustic cobalt]

many thanks!

[mighty cedar]

The more per time rot is "nice" the atack speed on sword applies to throws too... its just....... i know it wont be scalable later

[foggy heron]

that's a werid branch/node, does it mean you are supposed to use hammer throw as a burst heal every 5s ?

do anyone use that ?

[mighty cedar]

jesus

[simple raven]

seems i should make a new smite character xD

[brittle grove]

BRUH

[simple raven]

empowered a 0lp in a nemesis, turned out 3lp

[haughty canopy]

hey vlad.... take scrap metal node or not?

[brittle grove]

nemesis prints me insane triple exalteds, but when it comes to uniques all it throws me is t2 mana regen y,y

[haughty canopy]

my hammer was from a nemesis

[simple raven]

dont get me wrong, it gives me tons of useless stuff aswell, but obviously i dont show those xD

[gentle cloak]

Level it with these gloves that literally JUST dropped for me in Act 1

[brittle grove]

yeah same, i just wanna see it hit a good unique at some point xdd

[simple raven]

nah, for smite ill pair em with these for the beginning

[gentle cloak]

Wait no Act 3? Before you fight the Emperor's Remains or w/e

Oof, those are the superior gloves for sure

[simple raven]

not great attunement or cdr roll, but those were 0lp, threw em into a nemesis couple of days ago and gave me 4lp.
too good to not use at that point

[gentle cloak]

Oh for sure, it's a legal obligation at that point.

[mighty cedar]

can minions get ward? (MA) like if the weapon or gloves its getton 200% stats from?

[brittle grove]

@turbid dome IT FINALLY HAPPENED

[mighty cedar]

HUGE

[placid geyser]

hello guys i'm playing with void knight, i have opened anomaly skill, i was using abysal echoes for auto cast from void cleave shread void resistance and etc. is this anomaly skill better than abysal echoes skill. should i switch to anımaly ?

[brittle grove]

can you specify what you mean specifically with your question? a lot of voidknight builds use both skills

[placid geyser]

somepoeple say with anomly i can get better damage output with anomaly but not sure if it is better than abyssal echoes. i was just asking if if i shoudl siwtch to anomaly insatead of abyssal echoes

[brittle grove]

you use anomaly for 2 things , as a self buff and to debuff bosses, abyssal echoes you automate with void cleave to shred resistances, so in short you use both skills, whereas 1 is automated (echoes) and the other you use on demand

[placid geyser]

hmm if both of them really good should i switch volatile reversal with anomaly ?

[brittle grove]

volatile reversal is insane dmg boost, dunno what you use healing hands for on a void knight build tho, healing hands is wasted on void knight imo since you leech like hell

[placid geyser]

hmm i was using peak of the mountain i was using healing hands for that.

[brittle grove]

why would you use a no leech item on voidknight???? voidknight is THE leech machine, you are throwing away a huge boon the class offers

[placid geyser]

i was using it for crits XD

[brittle grove]

dont get me wrong, you can play w/e you want and in 90% of cases it works in last epoch since the system is way more forgiving and easier than PoE for example, i just want to point out you are throwing out the one of the biggest strengths of the void knight class for a little bit of crit

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

some bad crafting luck, but over all quite happy

[turbid dome]

It could def be a lot worse, congrats on the +4

[brittle grove]

100% , thats why i aint complaining

[mighty cedar]

what i wear on the left, what just droped....... is taking that hit to STR worth it?

[brittle grove]

thats why i aint complaining, just my resistances are screwed since switching away from my former resi fixer chest

[placid geyser]

this leech on ly comes fro mthis right ?

[brittle grove]

that node is more than enough, yes, i havent used a single health potion since level 50 or so

[placid geyser]

okey thanks, i trough healing hands was mandotary

[brittle grove]

well if you wear an item that completely disables your leech, then yes

[vagrant bone]

is ur main dmg rive

[placid geyser]

i'm gonna switch to terrow crwon if i can find good one nad switch healing hands with anomaly. lets see how it goes

[vagrant bone]

it dosent complently get rid of leech

[placid geyser]

yes. why did u ask shoudl i change ?

[vagrant bone]

show me ur rive tree pls

[vagrant bone]

cause using peak of the mountain with rive is viable if ur first and second hit dont crit because those can leech

[raven socket]

how does it work

[vagrant bone]

ill send u a link for rive and what i would run with peak

[raven socket]

it means it have 140 melee damage and 260% crit strike?

[placid geyser]

simply double your dmg

[brittle grove]

oh yeah i forgott there is non crit cap xdd, thanks for the correction

[vagrant bone]

yeah and give me a second @placid geyser dont pay attention to the passives lol i just did something where I could get all the skills

[placid geyser]

i wanna reach max crit actually, want to slam +18 melee crit to my weapon so i might go high crit chance

[olive saffron]

have a link for what you're running? I've been sitting on a +4 for a bit

[mighty cedar]

damn WW went ahrd

[placid geyser]

+4 what ? can you share ss

[brittle grove]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM5aN2wB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (68) / Forge Guard (25)

General:

▸ Health: 3,641, Regen: 47/s
▸ Mana: 752, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 60 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 84 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 59% / 61% / 60% / 70% / 100% / 100%
▸ EHP: 8,426 / 8,062 / 8,204 / 16,649 / 8,907 / 9,352 / 9,352

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 728
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,455)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (22)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Anomaly (25)

Used unique items:

• Strong Mind
• World Splitter
• Shattered Chains
• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Darkstride

[olive saffron]

erasing strike

[brittle grove]

the +4 roll i used to max out erasure of the living and prophets onslaught in the ES tree

[vagrant bone]

@placid geyser https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4evwL0o something like this im not a fan of void cleave so i wouldnt run it

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (32) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,034, Regen: 34/s
▸ Mana: 118.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 56% / 24% / 24% / 40% / 72% / 9% / 9%
▸ EHP: 1,053 / 830 / 830 / 944 / 1,217 / 755 / 755

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 207
▸ Armor Mitigation: 5% (108)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

None

[raven socket]

melee crit healing hands, what do you think

[vagrant bone]

healing hands got gutted i dont think anyone is running it

[raven socket]

so i wasnt wrong about my damage

i used same build in 1.0 cycle and damage was insane, now i struggled

[olive saffron]

gotta read them patch notes

[raven socket]

too much to read

[placid geyser]

it turns out i was the only palyer palying with it 😄 AHHAAH

[olive saffron]

I just ctrl+f for the stuff I care about

[raven socket]

oh i see

[vagrant bone]

yeah lol

[raven socket]

from 1 melee damage per 10% healing to 20%

[placid geyser]

i think you sohuld get Apath's Maw it gives insane damage.

[raven socket]

build on page says volcanus

[vagrant bone]

@placid geyser i can make like a full rive build if u want cause that was going to be my next vk build i do

[placid geyser]

i'm jsut gonan remove healnig hands and sse if i can heal my self with out helmet

[placid geyser]

can you tlel me which two prefix you would prefer in helmet ? +16str +4 anomaly and +220 echo dmg

[vagrant bone]

u can get vita roll in helmet right

[placid geyser]

yea

[vagrant bone]

go vita and echo dmg if ur going Rive

[placid geyser]

kk

[placid geyser]

why vitality ?

[vagrant bone]

cause vita scales ur dmg? with void in the rive tree and ur vk passives

[vagrant bone]

and 1% void melee dmg per 3 vita

[placid geyser]

oh okey

[brittle grove]

[placid geyser]

where is that from ?

[olive saffron]

rive tree

[olive saffron]

now you gotta go cook

[placid geyser]

weird cannot see it

[brittle grove]

my mana stacker sadly cant use it, cause ya know, world splitter mandatory 😄

[placid geyser]

oh okey envermind symbol is different

not the expert but i foudn something like this in stash, isn't this greate ?

[obtuse perch]

So the harbinger of destruction is just the harbinger of defilement with a different moveset?

I beat my third harbinger btw.

[woven temple]

there are two types of harbingers who also get a few skills added from the timeline boss

[short viper]

vit stacking for rive was already viable before this, it's a really good change

formosus harbinger being able to fire and forget the cold line attack is really something

[olive saffron]

I just did the stolen lance harbinger and I'm glad at least some portion of my damage is automatic. So much downtime dodging linear nukes

worth it though. basically the same dps as my old wand with higher stun and bonus leech

[tribal basin]

its rare to find them with actual useful stats

[olive saffron]

I couldn't remember if sceptre was one of the ones with useful upgrade stats. flat spell is great

[turbid dome]

combo that with a crystal skull, have a nice 5 + 6 + 9 base crit before the skill tree

[short viper]

i didn't know that base existed that's actually pretty dope

[turbid dome]

the catalyst one is funny

[celest jetty]

I need this base, where did you get it ?)

[olive saffron]

I believe they are randomly from nemesis

[celest jetty]

You mean this remains with 4 options ?

[olive saffron]

Yes, I believe it is one of the 4 items they drop from the challenge/empower mechanic

[untold sky]

My damage is really starting to become boring lo. So what other weapons work well with a high block sigeons reprisel flame build over monument of protection?

cuz I am falling asleep killing harbringers lol

though shield bash giving more bounces is nice 😦

[hoary kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207020021960671272/1264614956196954214/Last_Epoch_2024-07-21_12-06-55.mp4?ex=669e83f4&is=669d3274&hm=ffb7575936d99fc0217e0ad61d5d4251da39b092436a2121c2a5fca99bdfe790&

Time to cry

[placid geyser]

me again 😄 would you go for melee attack speed and vita for gloves right =? (we were talking abot rive, void knight build)

[vestal mirage]

Gm gamers

[vagrant bone]

yeah

[placid geyser]

kk thy

[mighty cedar]

ummmmmmmmmm permanant HH?

[placid geyser]

hh ?

[mighty cedar]

healing hands.... i killed a story boss... and like everything froze and I was permanent HH movement

[opaque grotto]

Can someone help me out with my armor to help right? I'm level 55 paladin but i feel like my resistance is so low https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[mighty cedar]

then get more res?

[opaque grotto]

my armor is 4x the max i can't equip anymore

[primal wedge]

click the save/share button for the copy/paste link

[opaque grotto]

Just trying to figure out how to reroll my armor stats if i can so i get more phys res

[primal wedge]

idols and passives

there's also no max armor so idk what you're looking at

[opaque grotto]

this is my armor

[primal wedge]

armor is fine for 56

your hp is pretty low and i bet your crit avoid/endurance are prob low too

[worthy rampart]

Would it be better for a FG - DW or 2-hander for a minion focused warpath(flame convert>spelldmg) run? 4X more on-hit shredding and ignite with DW, but two-handers scale forge weapons better + implicit

[opaque grotto]

yeah this is the part where i am struggling at.

[primal wedge]

vk top left passive will give you hp/phys/void

then just keep an eye out for idols

[stark gazelle]

So been doing forge guard spin to win.iv noticed that I do better just warpathing instead of using forge strike. Is that usually how it works? Also the weapons seem to being like most of the damage. Is there wla way to check their tool tip dps?

[left ravine]

does forge guard minions have chance to shred armor if given from a weapon?

[worthy rampart]

is affected by the stats and attack rate of your weapon.

[iron basin]

my forge slam has more area than the visual indicates now lol

[primal wedge]

you can also give minions things via julra gloves

[sterile latch]

what r u gonna use it for?

[brittle grove]

stash tab decoration

[vestal mirage]

Crit avoid or reduced damage on crit are very important

Getting that significantly helps with the random 1 shots

Although you will still get absolutely railed by dots. But there's not much you can do about that

[turbid dome]

The health regen blessing helps against dots

[olive saffron]

health regen is amazing early on. I love seeing that blessing

[vestal mirage]

Going full block early on is pretty hilarious too

Did that yesterday while leveling my shield guy and he was Invincible lol

Could leave and go to the bathroom or something and come back still alive

[turbid dome]

If it’s poison stacks that’s killing you, overcapping poison res helps there

But overall dots are like the scariest thing rn

[vestal mirage]

For sure

The poison nemesis is terrifying

[olive saffron]

So glad my shaman just stunlocks the nemesis to death

[tacit zealot]

can you leech from DOT's/judgement aura?

[mighty cedar]

guess im rolling flame reave now

[turbid dome]

If you have % of <damage type here> leeched as health, you can leech from dots

More on leech: https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/health_leech

[tacit zealot]

so with it converting to fire i try find fire damage leech?

[turbid dome]

Yeah or melee leech if it’s a melee attack

[tacit zealot]

its judgement

but doing the aura

[turbid dome]

I believe you would need fire leech then (or generic leech)

[tacit zealot]

any good uniques you know of that would be good? shield/gloves slot is not available

never really dipped my toes into any form of DOT so first time in a while ive had issues when trying to make my own build lol

[turbid dome]

Beyond like overkill dmg leeched as health, it’s probably a hard sell getting not melee leech.

Bleeding heart amulet would work

Also is healing hands not enough?

[tacit zealot]

only ever really used HH primarily with divine bolts and used the ward conversion i never used the healing part to know how efficient it is last league i was sat at 80k ward with 1.5k hp and no other defences this league with 80% CA all res over capped and like 1.8k-2k armour im getting 5K ward and dying to everything hahah

i noticed the judgement aura getting a huge damage % boost so was gonna always be my 2nd build and im just casually making my own build whilst trying to farm some gear with the char i do have before i swap

[turbid dome]

Fair

[tacit zealot]

would ignite per stack be able to keep up with the damage ticks from the aura? not sure if this is worth it if im not purely focusing on ignite but will be able to get a couple of stacks maybe

[turbid dome]

If your trying to do an ignite dot build with it, yeah, if not, no

[alpine canopy]

There's a blessing for spell leech, and fire/elemental leech is available in some places

[turbid dome]

I forgot about the blessing

[vestal mirage]

why are my characters gone again

[turbid dome]

Owobyss took them

[vestal mirage]

relogging fixed it

shieldguy is back in action

[tacit zealot]

nah im trying to go for the aura damage itself which scales with DOT just like ailments do but didnt know if a single ignite tick would have damage damage output as a single damage tick of the aura itself

[turbid dome]

Nah ignite (and every other aliment) has its own base damage

If you are scaling dot and fire damage already it couldn’t hurt getting some ignite in there

[tacit zealot]

i put the last 2 points into armour shred instead lol

[turbid dome]

Armor doesn’t apply to dot dmg

[vestal mirage]

where do I even go here????

[turbid dome]

Down is like your only option at this point

[vestal mirage]

bottom left apparently

[turbid dome]

We love dungeons

[vestal mirage]

sometimes

[brittle grove]

3,3k life, all resistances capped, 70% armour, 30% reduced dmg from crits
and fricking julra oneshots me with a void bolt every single time or the void puddles

[tacit zealot]

not even if its shred by the skill thats doing the damage?

[brittle grove]

wtcrap is suddenly going on , something aint right

[short viper]

you need 100% crit dam reduction and also some DR like titan heart or null portent or red rings etc

[olive saffron]

also most of that does absolutely 0 to void puddles which you should never touch outside the initial 1 tick

[vestal mirage]

b2b 2lp helmets. I see

[brittle grove]

a) not possible
b) hella dumb to require it on all builds
c) i didnt need it the last 2 days????????????????????????????

[short viper]

julra wasn't one shotting you 2 days ago?

[brittle grove]

nope, and i even had less health 2 days ago

[winter copper]

well keep dying then, welcome to sentinel class

squishest class

[grim fog]

Now I need a good Unique armor to slap this bad baby on

[warped helm]

anyone know what happens here when you can no longer pierce with the main spear (sierpin) ?

[olive saffron]

pretty sure you just no longer benefit

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t matter how your applying armor shred, it only reduces the affected targets armor.

Armor has no affect against dots

[tacit zealot]

gotcha, thanks

[turbid dome]

*you can get gear that gives %of armor applies to dots, idk if enemies can get that effect somehow

[tacit zealot]

reading this again it mentions it scales with spell damage. it still has the fire tag though so wouldnt something like fire damage on belt increase it and maybe scale the spell part through healing eff?

[sturdy quest]

do you dual-wield monument of protections?

[tacit zealot]

if you're trying to maximise damage from shield bash based off block effectiveness node id say yeah lol

[flint kite]

whoops - wrong channel sozz.

[alpine canopy]

No, works fine (though this isn't primalist)

[olive saffron]

it is an axe. sentinels can't offhand axes

[sturdy quest]

right

[tacit zealot]

oh haha i read it as them asking about dual wield 2 shields not 2 of the same one mb XD

[turbid dome]

The dot is a fire spell, you can scale it with both, however more specific affixes tend to have bigger numbers so fire > elemental > spell

Getting a ton of healing effectiveness will boost its base damage a lot too

[tacit zealot]

yeah just confusing having multiple DOT affixes that can be on the same gear as "increased spell %" or "increased fire %" and knowing whats the most optimal setup

[turbid dome]

That’s fair

[olive saffron]

typically the more generic, the lower the affix range.

[tacit zealot]

so 1% of each of these boosts damage by same amount and only the value ranges dictate what is best pound for pound?

[olive saffron]

yes, those would boost an ignite the same amount if they were the same %

[tacit zealot]

not ignite

the conscrated aura from judgement skill

[olive saffron]

same thing, fire DoT

[tacit zealot]

trying to make a cooked RF pally lol

can dot pen?

[abstract pumice]

Starting back up on LE and looking to make a Paladin again or a VK whats their status atm? i saw a cool ring for Sigils that seems sick af. Sword and board paladin bangin now? and is VK stil strictly 2h

[turbid dome]

Yes

I mixed up pen vs negative resistance for poison

[olive saffron]

Yes, DoT can pen.
Armor shred useless. Anything that says "hit" would be useless.

[shut glen]

Hello guys, do you have issues with skins on offhand when you dual wield ? My sword/axe skin just pierce my body ... ^^

[turbid dome]

Paladin, VK and forge guard are all on mostly equal standing this cycle

[abstract pumice]

whaaaat gtfo so i need to make all 3 this cycle then! hows Healing hands looking? did they fix the tags etc?

[turbid dome]

Forge guards tree is significantly better + there’s a ring to add your gloves stats to your forge weapons

Draven was playing some triple dot giga scaling thing

[abstract pumice]

you dont say... so i can sword and board forge guard then! oh wait did that forge guard set change at all?

[olive saffron]

Basically your scalers are: Fire Pen, % Spell/Elemental/Fire Damage/Damage Over Time, Shred Fire Res (Vengeance, Shield Breaker, Void Cleave, Tornado gloves), Healing Effectiveness (1 spell dmg per 5% healing effectiveness), flat spell damage (375% effectiveness, 120% per second) of any kind (fire easiest to scale)

[turbid dome]

The set didn’t, the set rework is coming later

Sword and board should work, there is also a main hand shield for shield bash, tho I can’t say if dual shield is great or not

Haven’t played it yet

[olive saffron]

shield bash builds sounded busted at the start

likely feel a bit worse w/o foot of the mountain though

[abstract pumice]

i will start with Paladin, classic maybe 2h or something. gotta look at items. is Healing hands melee fire tagged yet?

[turbid dome]

The smite on throwing hit idols did get nerfed (there’s a cap per 10 seconds)

[turbid dome]

That’s a good question

[mighty cedar]

YES..... grumbl its a buiff that is a nerf......

Although, arguably you could just run 1 (ehich would still be better than the ammount you would have gotten with the old I think) and it would free alot of idom stuf

[abstract pumice]

excuse me? maaan if this had a lategame version

[magic panther]

that scaling is still good late game

[olive saffron]

low lvl makes it easier to get high LP

[turbid dome]

Oh yeah vk gets an extra +2hp from vitality

That is the late game version, stack stats

[abstract pumice]

is it? i will rock this thing forever dont play with me

uaaaah 4lp that thang

[turbid dome]

The nemisus mechanic is fun

[olive saffron]

if you focus on smite, it is basically a wand with extra smite source

[magic panther]

Stack STR for the smite spell dmg, which is added to the base, then multiplied by modifiers.

[abstract pumice]

now when it says "cast it directly" does it count when i do things that proc smites? since they still cast directly from me or is it manual cast

[magic panther]

nope, direct means casting using the smite skill itself

Str Vit Void Knight smite caster starting to look good.

[tacit zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdxKXm1Q welp that took too long to try put together for not a very good outcome hahahaha

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (13) / Paladin (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,642, Regen: 44/s
▸ Mana: 191.59, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 27 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 182% / 131% / 152% / 102% / 192% / 97% / 163%
▸ EHP: 13,391 / 13,391 / 13,391 / 20,942 / 13,391 / 13,391 / 13,391

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 528
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,303)
▸ Block Chance: 85%, Mitigation: 69% (4,698)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Judgement (26)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (24)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Rahyeh's Light
• Hand of Judgement
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Soulfire
• Cinder Song

[magic panther]

whatcha tryin to do with that build?

[olive saffron]

is nice

[turbid dome]

He wants to kill stuff using judgements fire dot

[magic panther]

Try Shield Slam

[tacit zealot]

just curious as to how effective the new damage buff with the aura part of judgement

wasnt meant to be anything to beat harbringer but at least maybe julra t4 but only really started on it a few hours ago and got more impatient as time went on so not as efficient as it could be i guess with that lack of eHp

[abstract pumice]

hmm its just wierd.. does that sword kinda work against itself? what do you wanna be doing? melee or manual smites?

[magic panther]

Flame Coating, Incinerating Blows, and Kindling.

[olive saffron]

time to eat food and then level an alt

[magic panther]

Its a great weapon to do so. 🙂 I got mine with Parry Chance.

[graceful scarab]

any suggestions on what to put here for a javelin build?

[vestal mirage]

kinda insane for a stun build lol

[mighty cedar]

damn...... i cant kill the un empowered last ruin guy ha

[olive saffron]

zoom lvling

[vagrant bone]

anyone know of any ignite dmg builds for sent

[warped helm]

hmm why does aberroths command say "ravaging auraS created by void cleave" ... they stack? this thing looks interesting

[stiff sierra]

I had mentioned this last night. Just hit 85 and got a world splitter (and have a cheap seed of ekkidrasil, the inevitable boots, 0 LP siphon of anguish, a strong 0 LP pair of darkstriders, and a shadow beacon).

I originally was following the Captain Battlaxe build guide (https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj7kz9vo) but have seen some commentary (and experienced some sustainability/survivability issues)

I also saw recent posts from minmaxRPG (and looked at leaderboards) and see some VK builds that integrate healing hands and sigils of hope.

Looking for some advice from experienced VKs about a good direction to go. (I was thinking of the battlaxe build, but adopting some of the bonk knight skill adjustments that make it more sustainable at lower mana (like the void cleave node that makes erasing strike auto crit)

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (68) / Forge Guard (25)

General:

▸ Health: 3,395, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,541.02, Regen: 18.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 94% / 78% / 87% / 144% / 61% / 81% / 81%
▸ EHP: 8,700 / 8,096 / 7,613 / 10,297 / 8,700 / 7,613 / 7,613

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 883
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,596)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Anomaly (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• World Splitter
• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Titan Heart
• Shattered Chains
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• The Inevitable
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Orian's Eye

[alpine canopy]

No, you can't have multiple rav auras

[olive saffron]

might be a starting point here <#🔱┃sentinel message>

[stiff sierra]

nice, thanks for the link

hmm, that one doesn't go with the mana sustain either

I know there is a breakpoint though, where it makes sense to just use more mana and increase DPS

(basically people going for armor sunder over getting the "obliterator" node

[turbid dome]

I think its 400 mana for 1 gauranteed echo to fully sustain it with 3 void essence for mana node

[mighty cedar]

got to empowred.... and im getting rolled lol

[turbid dome]

mood

[stiff sierra]

ty engi

at what crit rate though

or is that assumed with the guaranteed crit

[turbid dome]

if you wana perma erasing strike bonk, 100% crit chance

[stiff sierra]

yeah thought so

[turbid dome]

cause the node of 100% chance to get a void essence on crit

[mighty cedar]

ooo thats new

[turbid dome]

basically as long as this gets you back enough mana to erasing strike 3 more times your good to go (assuming your using the no cooldown node in Erasing strike, having a cooldown makes the mana demand way less)

[stiff sierra]

yeah, I understand void well. from what I understand, people either use the node in void strike to guarantee that you crit with erasing strike, or build crit/mana up enough to just count on getting a crit before you lose mana to keep the uptime

and because my mana is only about 350 right now in my current config, I am planning on using void strike with the node

[turbid dome]

either or work, hitting the perma bonk levels of mana gets silly because with attack speed you just murder bosses

[stiff sierra]

Yeah, I am just not 100 yet with the gear to get perma. I have a feeling with a few more nodes and a couple of key pieces of gear I will be able to sustain.

My health is pretty low at 85 right now too, which isn’t helping

[turbid dome]

no slammed life/vitality on chest and helmet hurt

[stiff sierra]

Yeah. I got a bad roll on my helmet. My chest needs replacing (unlock a new one next level) and my gloves being replaced will help, just need to backfill resistances

[hollow estuary]

what do sentinels (paladin) use to go through lagon beam if you get cornered? Do they even have an immunity etc like the other classes

[grizzled lake]

what build my fellow Forge Guard are rocking currently? therea re the MR ones and not many on LE tools

[turbid dome]

Lunge can make you immune

Rebuke with the less elemental dmg taken node can work

[alpine canopy]

HH traversal can also make you immune

[turbid dome]

That too

[alpine canopy]

and maybe if you're sneaky, you can use VR to time warp past the beam 😂

[hollow estuary]

thanks for the suggestions, was only aware of vr but seemed easy to mess up if you ended up vring into the beam lmao

on hc

[turbid dome]

VR-ing into death is a rite of passage

[queen spade]

im so sad

Judgement's 100% mana usage passive node doesn't apply to World Splitter effects

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, same applies for all mana consumption effects, they aren't mana costs. It goes off the mana cost you see on the tooltip, basically.

Channel cost also isn't the skill's mana cost

[queen spade]

Why is EHG anti-fun 😦

[primal wedge]

Made a lil vk caster, ssf. Pretty fun, and the volatile burst window is wild already. Cruising at 300c but want armor % blessing first. Anyone see anything truly dumb that i've done? Have not touched sentinel since 2022 so idk .https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oz11R88B

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 87

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (80)

General:

▸ Health: 3,732, Regen: 61.33/s
▸ Mana: 302.04, Regen: 13.93/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 3 Att / 53 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 117% / 80% / 72% / 161% / 70% / 76%
▸ EHP: 9,328 / 9,328 / 9,328 / 12,182 / 9,328 / 8,914 / 9,328

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 840
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (115)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,256)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Devouring Orb (22)
• Anomaly (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (22)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Smite (20)

Used unique items:

• Font of the Erased
• Siphon of Anguish
• Anchor of Oblivion

[primal wedge]

unfortunately the new harbinger staff which inspired this is bad but i kind of guessed it would be

[sterile latch]

I tried it with healing hands. If there's a way to make healing hands cold or void it might work with bane of winter too. Seems ok but had to stand still to channel

[warped helm]

alright, happen to know if its any good? the sceptre def looks enticing, ofc combining it all with timerot doom and whatnot, ive been wanting to make a void dot char

[primal wedge]

That's essentially what's above, but the big dot is popped over and over for instant dmg

[alpine canopy]

It felt good for me, I focused on spell void mostly, abyssal echoes for single target and rav aura for clear. I didn't push it very far though.

[marsh warren]

if you seal an affix and use that piece of equipment in the sanctum LP thing. Does it run the risk of using the sealed affix?

[alpine canopy]

No, sealed affixes don't count for legendary crafting

[vestal mirage]

decent

[dark rune]

does healing hands not work with warpath? first time trying it

[magic panther]

Warpath only deals an On Hit attack for the very first attack that connects while channeling. Same with other channeling skills/spells.

[dark rune]

dang, that kinda sucks, would rive be better then?

[magic panther]

Yes, it would work on each hit for rive.

Dont sleep on Warpath though, the healing provided by leech, and the damage reduction while channeling warpath can still provide good mitigation.

But if you want that to be your primary attack with Healing Hands providing the heals, its just not doable.

[dark rune]

yea im hoping for the sword that casts smite on hit, does that at least work for every hit or is it the same as HH?

[magic panther]

iirc, it works on every hit, unlike HH

i only briefly tested it.

[dark rune]

hmm, maybe ill have hh cast off smite if i manage to get the drop

[magic panther]

Using Hand of Aurelus? That wont work unless its a direct cast of Smite. Smite does have the option to provide heals, they just wont be healing hand heals.

At least if you're proccing the smites from the sword itself.

If you're wanting healing hands procs, you'll want to use Rive or Multistrike (added bonus, armaments can be turned into smites as well), or direct cast the smite.

[vestal mirage]

bash damage getting up there

[magic panther]

very nice, Drew!

[vestal mirage]

that is with all buffs up :p

[grim fog]

Im using Shield Bash with Healing Hands (Mostly for some extra damage and heals) also holy balls I have like +75% Block chance base

[magic panther]

I have yet to see any of my tooltips ever show as much as quintuple digits let alone sextuple.

Now I hadnt thought of Healing Hands and Shield Bash, that's gotta be interesting.

[vestal mirage]

3 harbingers to go until abby. man

[magic panther]

Yeah, I must be doing something wrong. The instant I hit empowered, I get steamrolled on all my builds.

[graceful kestrel]

is there a reason why it seems nobody uses sets?

[vestal mirage]

defense is key. you should be fine at 100 corr

[vestal mirage]

they are very niche

the thing that sucks about sets is there's no way to get them with LP. so the effect has to be insane for it to be worthwhile usually

[magic panther]

my Phys Rive Forge Guard uses the last bear set, and its really good, but its dropped off a lot once I hit Empowered.

So theyre great to play with until you hit the wall, then its time to think of the big leagues.

[vestal mirage]

biggest advice is 100% crit avoid, resists, and health/armor. easier said than done tho

[magic panther]

even some standalone pieces are good for some builds, like the Ferebor rings, or the green skull..

[graceful kestrel]

yeah I found one I thought went well for my minion forge guard build but it was a major downgrade once i tried it

[vestal mirage]

that's usually how it goes yeah

[magic panther]

the rings for each element in the mage's set are good too

Does wearing two of the same item count as 2/3 for the set?

[vestal mirage]

yeah i used the fire one for my fireball sorc for a while

have to be different pieces

[magic panther]

thats what i figured

Oh, Drew. Is that shield build just Shield Bash, or is it also Judgement adjacent?

[vestal mirage]

purely shield bash

[magic panther]

Oh cool, I was thinking of doing Shield Bash leading to Judgement empowered by Judgment Hands and Rahyeh's shield.

[vestal mirage]

you literally just bash their face in

[magic panther]

that looks awesome, even saw the glimpse of what looks like a shield ive never seen

[vestal mirage]

the new mh axe that looks like a shield. the thing that makes bash work

[magic panther]

nah, it was the Culnivan Shield that looks like spokes on a wheel. I have THAT shield, the axe one.

[grim fog]

I mean it helps BASH a lot

but it was alrd a build before now is just a second shield slapped into the hand + big base damage

[magic panther]

well yeah, dual wielding shields lol

[vestal mirage]

my monument is kinda cracked

[magic panther]

nice, I think mine has like 1lp.

[grim fog]

Pretty good

[vestal mirage]

would have preffered t7 melee crit but i dont think ive ever seen that on anything lmao. was not gonna wait for that

[magic panther]

guess I dont have the Monument after all.

offhanding the Slab as shield?

Better question, is do you think Primalist can take advantage of dual Monument?

[vestal mirage]

nah. used the weavers will shield until i could use this

only reason monument is good is because it adds base damage to bash

[magic panther]

yeah, and primalist also has 0 block nodes or anything to do with shield

[grim fog]

I have 0 mana problems,idk what I did but I aint running out of mana

[vestal mirage]

I only have mana issues if I have to move a lot while spamming bash. my boots will regen me if I'm standing still tho

[magic panther]

why titan heart? for the melee damage%?

[vestal mirage]

it got a good strength roll on it and I don't have a better exalt to replace it with atm

[magic panther]

ah, understandable

alright, good talkin, but im off to make stuffed pork chops and corn on the cob for dinner. pasta lasagna

[vestal mirage]

enjoy

is there a good way to target farm weaver relics with CoF?

I am down bad for a good sentinel one

[marsh warren]

Am I crazy or is the harbringer of ash the worst one to deal with with a melee class?

[abstract pumice]

is shield throw any good with the shield throw shield?

[vestal mirage]

good question. I got one of those recently too and thought about making one

[haughty canopy]

hmm thinking of shield throw with smite on throw

[vestal mirage]

i love cof

ok so you can get weaver will drops from unique relic prophecies

[quiet hearth]

I took the wrong mastery....

[vestal mirage]

oooof

I was talking about making a smite hammerdin or something like that and this relic instantly gave me +throwing damage

I guess it's a sign

[olive saffron]

when the loot wills it, you must build it

[vestal mirage]

if it hits t7 i will

[quiet hearth]

people are a little too obsessed with t7s

[vestal mirage]

agreed but I also really want it to hit t7

4 chances left and it's at t6

yeeeees it hit

[quiet hearth]

praise be to RNGesus

[vestal mirage]

I'm thinking of going a smite shield throw build using the shield throw shield

Think I'd rather do that over smite hammer throw

[magic panther]

do you think the richochets will count as additional smite chances?

[vestal mirage]

I'd assume so but not sure

Only issue is leveling yet another alt

[magic panther]

I think probably so. A lot hinges on having the idols to proc smite on hit with thrown. Otherwise, I could see it being no big deal.

probably go fire shield throw too to double dip smite and throw scaling.

[winged pulsar]

@alpine canopy @waxen nymph Hello resident interaction knowers. Was curious as to how parry % and the new chance on hit to take 0 dmg modifiers from seed and wall of nothing interact with a 100% block build? Does something trigger first? What if you have 88% block and 12% parry.. Im theory craftin some options and its sort of confusing to test this stuff

[brittle grove]

havent seen a code in ages and it still turns to crap :/

[vestal mirage]

Pretty sick for a jav enjoyer

[magic panther]

there's a handful of us

[brittle grove]

i would try jav but it just sucks too much atm imo :/ also void knight is bae

[quiet hearth]

I mean +4 jav aitn bad

[alpine canopy]

Each different mechanic is rolled completely independent of all others (with the exception of dodge, since if you dodge then none of the others roll at all). So you can still either block or not block a 0 damage hit, even though all that does is determine whether "on block" effects proc.

[haughty canopy]

man shadow beacon hard to find

reduced to bonking es with this

[winter copper]

40% hp is better than almost anything if you have it with 2lp even on 1h builds

[magic panther]

thats true, i had forgotten about that affix

[cerulean sorrel]

any hammer players having issues where even below 0 mana hammer throw doesnt cast?

[winter copper]

u cant cast it?

there was a bug in 1.0 with it, doubt its fixed yet

[cerulean sorrel]

i can cast it but its extremely inconsistent. even with passive which makes it cost 0 mana below 0 mana, it just decides to stop casting

[south narwhal]

Anyone know how the top shield throw build works?

The one that the top arena clear is running. I see very little about it on YouTube and on here

[sterile latch]

It snapshots the walking armament guy then swaps gear to full tank

[winter copper]

there are no vids cause nobody wants to play that garbage, its manifest armor build with bleed and snapshotting

monos are actually miserable on that setup

[sterile latch]

At least that's our running theory

[last briar]

yeah

snapshoting of course , but u guys cant get the key points

i stream on bilibili because I am Chinese , i rarely come here discord

[frigid hatch]

I see a bunch of high level judgement builds not running volatile reversal, but going healing hands + sigil + javelin instead. What build is that?

I thought pious offering + VR was what made it good

[tacit zealot]

If they are taking javelin maybe there are after the node in HH that boosts damage based off buffs.

[frigid hatch]

Ah.

[tacit zealot]

Iirc no matter the nodes VR doesn't go to buff but javelin can

Idk the real answer I'm just assuming

[frigid hatch]

The 3 main variants I've seen are that one, the VR + javelin one and the VR + healing hands (divine bolt on cast) one. Not sure which is best to run.

[tacit zealot]

I'm making my own judgement build focusing on aura so I have VR for the added DOT up top right of tree

[devout sierra]

jav gives a buff to judgement when you toss it and hit enemies. 60% more damage to next judgment, think thats why they run it.

[tacit zealot]

I love div bolts but I focused on the ward side and struggle a lot more

[frigid hatch]

That I can understand, but I'm not sure why they're not running volatile reversal + pious. Isn't that a massive DPS loss.

[devout sierra]

well pious just got thrashed to trash tier

[tacit zealot]

Oh yeah isn't there a "next judgement used after javelin does......."

[devout sierra]

The old meta was stack mana, big hit then VR to get it back, but I dunno if that will be meta now that piou got its damage extremely lowered. it used to be like 3-4x higher thne what it is this patch iirc

[winter copper]

those are healing hands builds not judgment builds, they dont even pick mana node

javlin is for 20% more dmg on divine bolts

[tacit zealot]

And on the HH hit itself no?

[frigid hatch]

Ah.

[devout sierra]

Pious Offering grants 1% more damage per 2 mana (from 3% per 2)

Yeah I dunno if anyone is even playing judgement these days outside of maybe an aura version that is way weaker then it was.

[frigid hatch]

So judgement focused ones kinda dead after pious nerf? It's so hard to find any updated build info for 1.1 besides bleed hammer
Everything is from months ago.

[tacit zealot]

Weaker? Didn't it get a big number increase with 1.1???

That's the only reason I was even making my own build haha

[winter copper]

literally maxroll has updated judgment

[devout sierra]

no, pious offering lost a ton of damage, the aura build got some damage effectiveness buffs, but I dont see how losing 2/3rds of your biggest multiplier can be made up

[frigid hatch]

That one is still pious + VR focused. Is that still good?

[devout sierra]

I really personally didnt think the build was that good before, I dont really see how it would be good now, and the hit version is most certainly dead

[tacit zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVvr10vA am i missing any better damage affixes ?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (13) / Paladin (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,642, Regen: 44/s
▸ Mana: 191.59, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 27 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 182% / 131% / 152% / 102% / 192% / 97% / 163%
▸ EHP: 13,391 / 13,391 / 13,391 / 20,942 / 13,391 / 13,391 / 13,391

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 528
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,303)
▸ Block Chance: 85%, Mitigation: 69% (4,698)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Judgement (26)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (24)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Rahyeh's Light
• Hand of Judgement
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Soulfire
• Cinder Song

[simple raven]

nemesis does interesting things sometimes

[stiff sierra]

where I ended up for the day after playing around with my world splitter. (mixed bag on rolls from nemesis... but hey)
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ap1lEJwQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 87

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (55) / Forge Guard (25)

General:

▸ Health: 1,556, Regen: 56.53/s
▸ Mana: 392.42, Regen: 19.42/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 0 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 83% / 127% / 82% / 89% / 182% / 120%
▸ EHP: 2,609 / 2,696 / 2,609 / 3,079 / 2,609 / 2,609 / 2,609

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 382
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (1,853)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 14%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Anomaly (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Erasing Strike (23)

Used unique items:

• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• World Splitter
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[stiff sierra]

still a little low on mana (so getting mana starved), health is too low still (but solvable), calcs in LE tools don't seem to match what I have in game for res and mana... so I am not getting credit for 'something'... but step in the right direction

[simple raven]

u got the blessing to fill that crit avoidance hole?

coz if not, ur open for getting squashed by crits, especially with only 1500hp

[stiff sierra]

not yet... but yeah, blessings are definitely weak right now, also just replaced my other ring with a second siphon

also upgraded to a 2 lp strong mind

but logging for now. thanks for pointing out the gap with blessings.

[simple raven]

nn 🙂

[cloud tundra]

do you have that gear, or are you just planning with best in slot?

I think that getting everything with 3-4 lp and exactly these affixes is certainly unrealistic.

Also: i don't think the gloves are good, if you go with weapons. And you're way overcapped with resistance.

[obtuse perch]

Looking back on a battle I recorded, it seems I actually underestimated how effective time and faith actually is.

Like if you get like three fourths of your life chopped off, you can get back to full in a reasonable time if you can get enough hits with time and faith.

[frigid hatch]

Does HH divine bolt smite build do anything better than warpath smite?

[tacit zealot]

just planning wanted to focus on the aura from judgement ill admit i started to get lazy/sloppy when looking through stuff. this would be what id aim for but just putting those types of stats to see the numbers im used to divine bolt HH with 80k ward last cycle lol so not used to DOT related builds

[cloud tundra]

Ok. Just saying 😉 looks a bit unrealistic with that much 3-4lp stuff.

[tacit zealot]

oh yeahh of course just messing around and venturing out of my comfort zone. only other DOT build ive ever done was righeous fire in POE lol im either sword and board or a support

[cloud tundra]

Also: if you go dot, you could lose the judgment explosion for more ignite bonus

[tacit zealot]

the 1.1 notes mentioned the damage of the aura itself was dramatically buffed

[cloud tundra]

Lose holy eruption for purifying flames. More dmg for ground

And maybe lose 2 points in the health reg bonus in aura to get 20% global fire dmg

[tacit zealot]

removed divine destruction too since it only helps for 35% of the enemies health

in sigils would swapping a point from empowering and adding it into decree give more damage since its more flat?

idk if 1 flat vs 5% is close

[cloud tundra]

Sounds good. Maybe try to get spell dmg leech and, in the fg passives, rahyes strength sounds nice, since every judgement use is a melee attack

[tacit zealot]

i was going to use aura then spam healing hands for healing did look into spell leech first but the options besides maybe the blessing for spell leech didnt fully fit

all depends on what gear drops i get too

[cloud tundra]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDsEYDYBYg

Use this with a few good bonus affixes

[tacit zealot]

dots cant crit though

[cloud tundra]

But you get a loot of leech for ignite and the aura

[tacit zealot]

that would be the only useable stat

that would be a waste when i could just try sustain with HH in between needing to slam judgement to refresh the aura

[cloud tundra]

Then go smite as movement, spread more Ignite and dots. You should have enough cdr to get the judgement low enough

[waxen nymph]

No it's leech on fire crit

[tacit zealot]

i think they meant if i got spell leech from something else

[cloud tundra]

My bad 😅

[tacit zealot]

the gloves certainly need replacing lol i thought the cooldown was a lot longer than what it is

[waxen nymph]

Have you considered Sky Beam

It's a Dot Fire Spell

[tacit zealot]

tried it last cycle and didnt like how it felt

[waxen nymph]

Same scaling then Aura

Okay

[tacit zealot]

unless the playstyle has changed with this mana regen thing?

[cloud tundra]

do you want aura? or how about stacking the ground with judgement as a "spammable" option?

[tacit zealot]

aura im after trying a pseudo righeous fire from poe

slam and run through enemies

would burning averice be best for gloves then ? that has elemental damage leech and leech improvement if im needing leech?

or stick to seeing how exalted gloves turn out?

[tacit zealot]

that also sound like HOTA from diablo haha

[lament star]

shield bash FG is tanky af but my dps is garbo why ?

[grim fog]

Cracked 100% blockchance LMAO never seen this

[lament star]

where's your hp bro ?

[grim fog]

no HP^xD

[obtuse perch]

I made something super nice!

[lament star]

i can facetank rahyeh but the dmg is ass with shield bash

[obtuse perch]

What it's replacing. I've had this thing since like chapter 5.

[obtuse perch]

What's your current crit chance?

[lament star]

not high enough / 15% lol

[grim fog]

what is the DPS on the shield tooltip? Also u using Healing Hands?

[lament star]

25k with nothing yes HH

[obtuse perch]

That's the downside of shield bash. It requires much gear to get the damage to a good level.

[grim fog]

Im going with low Meele damage

[obtuse perch]

Do you have cradle of the erased?

[grim fog]

All my damage coming from defensive block stuff

[obtuse perch]

Like, you really want to ramp up your block effectiveness as high as you can.

And fill out everything else with crit multi.

Also block chance of course, but I think block effectiveness of Cradle really does a lot.

[lament star]

i need to slam my weapon with crit chance

[obtuse perch]

Once you have a uh, what's that axe called again?

If you have that axe with a melee crit slam, it becomes good.

[grim fog]

Monument of Protection is the Unique for Shield bashing

[obtuse perch]

Like you'll just be dealing so much damage if you remember to stack crit multi on all your other gear.

[lament star]

got 300% crit mult

but i cant crit xD

[obtuse perch]

The damage of the build is very gear dependant. On the flipside, you don't need to worry about defenses much, your tree has that covered.

[lament star]

true

the boss shield is so tanky tho

not a big fan of that. i feel like that ward is equal to its whole hp

[obtuse perch]

It's not equal, but about the same-ish.

But I don't think kill time is significantly increased compared to when we had DDR.

Like, if your dps is very low then the kill time might be a little higher than it was before.

If you spend a lot of time not dealing damage to a boss, kill time would actually go up.

It is a very flawed helm but the implicit alone makes it a huge upgrade compared to what I had.

[lament star]

i guess thats why my hp reach end threshold on big slams

[obtuse perch]

I just got this from an ascendance.

I'm MG.

I'm fairly sure this is a cha-ching moment.

[brittle grove]

why cant i seal an exalted affix

[turbid dome]

Crafting rules

[brittle grove]

i know, just malding, losing 60k tooltip dps on erasing strike without my +4 chest

[turbid dome]

[brittle grove]

question tho, engi. have you thought about using the experimental ward / life lost affix on gloves and pairing it with VK for some extra ward? since you perma leech anyways?

that is one nutty siphon slam

[olive saffron]

wouldn't that generate like 0 ward since you're never missing any HP?