🔱┃sentinel

[obtuse perch]

But now I'm wondering, since I can't really handle the harbingers at 100c, should I even increase corruption?

Or should I increase corruption just for the reward gains?

[turbid dome]

did you look at any guide/practice avoiding stuff? the harbringers will just kill you if you dont move out of the way of their stuff

[obtuse perch]

And then maybe dial it back down when fighting harbingers?

[smoky shoal]

I was thinking echoing strike or whatever it's called. Someone said there's a new unique that makes it slap the whole screen

[obtuse perch]

I mean the fight didn't seem all that complicated.

[turbid dome]

also you fight the first at 100 c and the corruption requirement goes up the more of them you kill

[obtuse perch]

Yes but

[simple raven]

what corruption u fighting em at @obtuse perch ?

[vale ravine]

quickly tried what happens if i change all lagonian idols as well in my planner, but nah double health idols is still like ~800-900 more HP (but less damage ofc)

[cerulean sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Reaver01/character/Reaver_VoidKnight_C2 I've got a whole planner if you want, but like I said, half baked so far.

[obtuse perch]

I know how harbingers work but knowing how they work doesn't really pertain to the problem I'm trying to solve.

[copper ivy]

do you think sentinel will ever get that big ol 1 handed 2 hander passive

[obtuse perch]

100, btw. I thought I mentioned this already.

[turbid dome]

double health is more hp, but also free resistance 👍

also my erasing strike's spell part obliterates packs

[vale ravine]

ye i might start saving up my 6-7 vit idols if i see them so at least have the flexibility

resistances are indeed kinda sketch

[smoky shoal]

Did a spin 2 win last cycle to lvl 98, no offense to any fans of that play style, but not my thing

[simple raven]

ah, sorry. probably didnt catch it. reading while doing monos, so missing some lins inbetween 😄

[obtuse perch]

But like, if I cannot handle a harbinger at 100c, is it wise to increase corruption?

[cerulean sorrel]

That's fair, I just didn't see anyone using that smite sword yet, so I figured I'd give it a go.

[simple raven]

probably not for now 😄

[obtuse perch]

Even if I can handle other things at 100c?

[turbid dome]

vit on helmet/boots/bodyarmor is where its at tho, cause its a defensive prefix

[mighty cedar]

Why does that mayter

[smoky shoal]

That sword looks cool, dw with Aurelius might be awesome

[simple raven]

well, go for it. if u cant handle higher corruption u can always just lower it, so np 😄

[vale ravine]

ye that tell to the market 😄 but ye that's kind the plan

[turbid dome]

it beats using the very rare damage taken as physical sentinel prefixes

[obtuse perch]

How does lowering work anyway? I know there's a node for it but I'd like to know the details.

[cerulean sorrel]

I'm hoping to get some T7 void damage slammed on them 😄 I have 4 with 2LP waiting to be slammed

[vale ravine]

nah on helm i planned %health to be the exalted, on chest + levels to ES is giga damage, there is so much more damage multies in the tree

[obtuse perch]

One thing I still like about multistrike though is the time and faith thing, which has no synergy with warpath. So maybe that won't be it. 🤔

[winter copper]

you need 125 cor for next harbinger if u killed one with 100 cor

[simple raven]

do the nod, kill some elites there (easy) and u get 3 options to lower ur corruption. 10, someother procentage (mine showed 42) and the last option lowers it down to 100 regardless of what corruption ur at

[turbid dome]

ye, you got 2 prefixes tho 👀

[vale ravine]

oh ye the other abs vitality ofc at T5

[sterile latch]

Yeah. I learned u just gotta find and kill shade to be able to challenge him at 125

Or whatever the required corruption is. The quest says 125 but I could do it at 121

[turbid dome]

I missed the seal 3 times on this chest so I couldn't add levels to ES ;-;

it still adds like 700 hp to my dude

[smoky shoal]

I usually play flicker strike in PoE, since there's nothing like that here (yet, hopefully) I wanted something quick and tanky like my HH build from last cycle. But I haven't seen a single thing on LE tools so I'm assuming it got nerfed. Hence my question earlier about echo strike or direct cast smite/hh

[cerulean sorrel]

HH is still good damage wise, it's just no longer invincible.

[vale ravine]

ooof
i might actually need to go into desperation mode and do this, but im at baseline a titnheart gamer
LP2 is of course kinda borked right now, but im still on the hopium it will recover lol

[mighty cedar]

Best way for me to farm this stupid shield throw shield? I’ve been at it for 3 hours

[obtuse perch]

I know.

[sturdy quest]

I looked up this build and it seems that it does not have big AOE though

[turbid dome]

I love titan heart, but I love having hp regen too

[cerulean sorrel]

stay at it another 8 hours

[smoky shoal]

I saw a channel hh build that looked interesting, but I want to play a melee. I'll keep checking builds and YouTube. I don't want to play FG since it's minion and the flavor of the month lol

[simple raven]

nice, managed to do fall of the empire timeline boss and harbringer at 312 corruption 😄

and got rewarded with 1-3fps for 30sbecause of 512 ring of shields xD

[cerulean sorrel]

I was using Perry's Rive HH the other day to clear stuff and it works just fine, you just cap at like 6k ward instead of 200k

[simple raven]

hate those agility harbringers though

[obtuse perch]

I did happen to get a belt just now with added health + increased health and also cleanse on potion use.

[vale ravine]

huhhhh

[turbid dome]

buy that right now

[vale ravine]

i mean it's risky tho

[smoky shoal]

I think mine from last cycle got about 12k ward at lvl 100, not optimized gear. 6k isn't terrible and can tank alot of stuff. Might look at it some when I get home. What's your take on VC/ES with hh. Saw a build planner , seems good on paper if you can manage mana

[obtuse perch]

Which actually might help me a little against really stupid DoTs like the ones that poison nemesis uses on me.

[turbid dome]

what T is that reduced damage from crits? could youy not just seal it

[vale ravine]

crit red is T3

[turbid dome]

[vale ravine]

not zero chance but rissskkyyyy

[turbid dome]

yolo removal gang time

[vale ravine]

YOLO indeed

[turbid dome]

BRO WENT FOR IT AND GOT IT

[obtuse perch]

Do you think cleanse on potion use is good if you don't have any other kind of cleanse?

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah it might be good. I haven't messed with ES too much myself tbh.

[turbid dome]

in general yeah, is extra nice vs rotsteel nemisus

[obtuse perch]

That's what I was thinking

[vale ravine]

kinda knew deep down this is going to happen lol

[obtuse perch]

For some reason his poison stacks are on a whole other level and it's hard to avoid getting hit by at least some of them.

[turbid dome]

[plush cobalt]

Hi, I hope you are all well. Does anyone know if there is a build for this new season of Paladin that uses the "The Judicator" spear and the judgment gloves? Thanks.

[vale ravine]

i mean it's def more damage than theart with T5 vitality so if nothing else good for bossing

[turbid dome]

fair

[copper ivy]

become the one who makes that build, dont let your build be dreams

[tribal crane]

still pretty damn good armor i'd say

[vale ravine]

just for me to see

lol actually not losing that much EHP at all even without 15% DR

first one is the new. man if it went to T5s....

[plush cobalt]

I'm trying to do something with that. But I wanted to see if anyone else has something similar so I can compare.

[turbid dome]

vitality 👍

the real question is can you drop a necrotic or poison suffix now

[vale ravine]

nope, but i can drop a crit red from helmet

it's jsut it's a leonine, so practically can I really? 😄

[plush cobalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYkd2mDQ

[turbid dome]

Shade! I come for your apathy's maw with lp

[mighty cedar]

can the additionaly lightning bolts from smite taget the same enemy?

[simple raven]

question for last epoch tools. how do i add the vengeance buff/node "bolster" to show my ehp? i cant find it in "ailments" or buffs

tried messing with hits dealt recently etc, but no change

[vale ravine]

spoiler: I can't (for now)

[tribal crane]

u don't

[simple raven]

that sucks. its another flat 25% dmg reduction xD

[tribal crane]

better use tunklab ehp-calculator

[turbid dome]

wowz really spoilering me on this season of Wacsa players LE smh

[copper ivy]

turns out if you try to warpath up the stairs at the keepers vault you character gets confused on the pathing

[tribal crane]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ehp you can add all different dr instances into there

[simple raven]

ewww, i gotta manually put stuff in xD

[obtuse perch]

I think what I'll do is. Maybe I just need to try again at a later time.

But also having higher armor probably will help as well. I'm not yet armor capped.

[simple raven]

me too. i got one more timeline to grind to 300 to kill the last harbringer, then im gonna throw myself at abba 😄

[obtuse perch]

I need to do some blessing farming as well.

[simple raven]

btw, @obtuse perch u can skip the harbringer when fighting the timeline boss. u dont have to fight it

[obtuse perch]

I did just get like the poison resist shield with t7 block chance lol.

[obtuse perch]

That's what I did. I got frustrated and just wanted the blessing.

[pearl patio]

how do you guys think leveling feels for Forge Guard? im leveling a Druid right now and it is like really not fun and i'm thinking about switching

[simple raven]

👍

[obtuse perch]

I don't know how people miss the giant "UNCHECK THIS TO NOT FIGHT THE HARBINGER" button.

[obtuse perch]

I had fun leveling druid btw.

[simple raven]

because they dont read and just right click/quick click coz "i am speed!"

anyways, back on again tomorrow. cyas guys then!

[pearl patio]

i am not liking it lol, i dont like using summons and swarmblade feels kinda boring to play

[obtuse perch]

I played werebear.

[turbid dome]

thanks nemisus

[obtuse perch]

Anyway, as for Forge Guard, I recommend using ignite or bleed minions.

[vale ravine]

nemesis is totally carrying the season lol

[obtuse perch]

Really easy to level. Don't need to stick to DoTs all the way, but it vastly improves the leveling experience.

Althoug bleed forge strike is an alternative.

Or could just use Rive and some other support skill.

[cerulean sorrel]

I got my forge guard to 94 (was cycle start) killed 7 harbingers, and then decided to try other builds lmao

[upbeat kiln]

if only it was attunment

[ornate blade]

how far can erasing strike push?

corruption wise

[vale ravine]

to the moon! (1k)

[turbid dome]

one day I'll make a guts build carver dont ya worry

[mighty cedar]

Does holy aura get all the nodes passilvy and double them on cast? or it gets the tool tip passivly and then all the nodes speced when cast?

[turbid dome]

I believe it’s All the nodes passively, doubled on cast (unless you get the node that makes you not get them passively)

[mighty cedar]

"attack speed" is global for all attafks right doesnt matter throw vs melle?

[turbid dome]

If it doesn’t say throwing or melee before it, yeah

[twilit valley]

What does this mean

[turbid dome]

when you click to fight a timeline boss you can uncheck fighting the harbringer, so you fight just the timeline boss

[twilit valley]

Are you serious

I been doing it the hard way at part 8

Fml .. thanks for the info omg I feel better now

[mighty cedar]

i've made somewthing cursed..... care to look and tell me if you think its worth trying?

[turbid dome]

sure

[twilit valley]

Wait do when indo ending the storm I don’t have to fight harbinger afterwards ?

[mighty cedar]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5xJbmvQ woud lightning shjield throw smite work haha

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (15) / Paladin (78)

General:

▸ Health: 1,081, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 115, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 7 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 73% / 73% / 40% / 32% / 3% / 3%
▸ EHP: 2,007 / 1,958 / 1,958 / 1,618 / 1,404 / 1,167 / 1,167

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 258
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (929)
▸ Block Chance: 46%, Mitigation: 28% (555)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Spell, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (24)
• Shield Throw (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Manifest Armor (20)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Sigeon's Reprisal

[twilit valley]

And I’ll still be able to finish part 8 ?

[bright harbor]

Is there any good phys damage 2 handed weapon build for sentinel?

[turbid dome]

pure phys rive void knight was a thing before

[bright harbor]

Yeah I had that as an alt in my last season, feel like it'd get overshadowed now though

[polar spire]

wait what am i looking at, whats with the goth cupcakes

[turbid dome]

is the idea shield throw spam -> trigger a ton of smites. This should work well, just make sure your not overcapping your smite chance (given theres a limit on the number of smites per 2 seconds)

[polar spire]

cups hands over mouth and yells out from the back
"FORGE STRIKE BLEEEEEEEEEED"

[twilit valley]

Is hammers channeling ?

[polar spire]

na

[twilit valley]

What are paladin channeling abilities

[turbid dome]

Warpath or healing hands (can turn it into a channel sky beam thing)

[twilit valley]

Ok thanks

[sudden galleon]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/devouring-orb-void-knight-guide#skills-header

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SvY913TOE

How different these 2 builds from eachother? Maxroll.gg one says it is weak against single target..?

[mighty cedar]

basically, 50% is too much but 25% isn't quite enough afaik. my only worry is this effectly caps the dps to 10 smites per 2 seoncds. It can never get any higher than that

[deft flume]

Any builds for d2 javazon experience? No dot just lightning spears all over, or is it not viable

[turbid dome]

keep in mind you wont have capped rolls for it, so you'll be at sub 50% chance

[mighty cedar]

yea but I just mean in gernal. With that ceiling that is as many smits as I can do in 2 seconds.... during the CD (i assume its 1 second) I am not doing dps, do I understand that correctly?

[sudden galleon]

anyone?

[bright harbor]

say LESSSS

[mighty cedar]

good?

[vestal mirage]

holy. already found my +4 forge strike and I'm only 65. HUGE

too bad the prefixes are awful

[sterile latch]

I just hold down the right click button the entire time while listening or watching something on my second monitor with forged weapons

[vestal mirage]

i put my only maw into nemesis at 60 thinking id have it back bty the time im ready to use it at 65. havent even empowered it once yet lmao

[twilit valley]

How do you unselect timeline boss if you don’t want to fight harbinger . Sorry to ask

[sterile latch]

just uncheck harbinger when u go to fight the boss?

[cerulean sorrel]

the checkbox under the boss fight dialogue when you click on it

[twilit valley]

I don’t see that option and always fight harbinger

Before entering or after

[cerulean sorrel]

is it your first one

[sudden galleon]

please?

[twilit valley]

Can I see a screenshot please

I’m on part 8

Omg I see the option now ! Wow I been doing it the hard way always .. thanks

Wow what a noob I am … weeeeeeeeeeeeee

[turbid dome]

from a quick look they are similar builds, just Kripps is from before this cycle

[sudden galleon]

Thank you buddy.

[vale ravine]

the guide is also outdated if that's any consolation lol

[turbid dome]

wait the maxroll one is outdated too?

[mighty cedar]

that shield throw lighting smite wont work as its DPS is capped

[vale ravine]

last updated February

[turbid dome]

beans I missed that

[vale ravine]

and it was already outdated in 1.0, mind you
i just wouldnt try to 1:1 replicate any 1.0 builds mindlessly, there were a lots of explicit and implicit changes to the meta since then

[turbid dome]

@sudden galleon both those builds are out of date

[vale ravine]

that said i havent see any bomber builds this season yet, but that maybe for a good reason

[mighty cedar]

LETS GOOO

[cerulean sorrel]

is there actually a good build with that now? I tried to make one in 1.0 and everything I did with it sucked...

[sudden galleon]

oh what?

[mighty cedar]

good is subjectiove

[turbid dome]

their both from before the most recent update, the max roll one's wand got heavily nerfed

[sudden galleon]

Uh oh.. So can I find another one like this? :S

[cerulean sorrel]

fair. I'm trying to make a void smite build dual wielding Palarus swords so I feel that.

[turbid dome]

no idea but nemisus just trolled me (it added the phys dmg first)

[mighty cedar]

nice

[turbid dome]

Vitality stacking void dmg wizard vk still probably works, no idea how good it is

[sudden galleon]

https://www.icy-veins.com/last-epoch/void-knight-devouring-orb-autobomber-endgame-build

I guess this seems better ? @turbid dome

[turbid dome]

Quick look says yeah, just make sure you have the unique with the affix slammed on it that the build says you kinda need

tho I’m biased against icy veins and don’t like their site

[sudden galleon]

Yea I am a maxroll.gg lover but... out of date got me a bit sad =/ I loved that build tbh

[vale ravine]

same im not a fan of Ghazzy in general but this could be worse
like it's probably gonna be alright but i wouldnt expect any miracles, especially if you want to do the new bosses with it

[mighty cedar]

aaaaa i cant reset HH movement ability with the miniojn teleport affix

[cerulean sorrel]

and my void smiter is about to be out of the campaign and into monos, can finally farm for swords to slam onto these.

[vale ravine]

unrelated, but anchor of oblivion is kind of tickling my fancy

[turbid dome]

Anchor is great

[vale ravine]

losing 1 level on every skill is the only reason i havetn switched yet, but the stats on it are pretty goated

[mighty cedar]

is that one limited by smites per second or is that just throws?

[cerulean sorrel]

yeah, 3 times per second, though dual wielding idk if it has a different count for each sword? lmao

I did zero research before I started this. It just seemed fun, and it did steamroll the campaign at least.

[mighty cedar]

is smite supplimental dmg or your main?

[cerulean sorrel]

it's a void warpath build with smites as candy

[mighty cedar]

good i was worried for you for a secomnd ha

[cerulean sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Reaver01/character/Reaver_VoidKnight_C2 I'll post this again if you want to follow my building of it. I've got trash gear and just entered my first mono on it.

[mighty cedar]

nahI am doing void shield throw

[vernal scroll]

Do someone have a vid of the manifest armor + shield throw build ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/GreatMaster/character/ForgeMaster

I have no clue about the rythme or the looks of the gameplay

[mighty cedar]

why are you using the uniq axe for a shield throw build?

[vernal scroll]

It's the rank 1 on the ladder build

[mighty cedar]

ffs

prob for the block chance nodes. hold on let me look shield throw is my babty

essentially the MA does all the dmg

and you are just a super tanky beefy boy

[misty parcel]

How do you guys sustain / reccur mana when using Erasing Strike?

[vernal scroll]

How fast is the build ? It's like a wraith lord basicly ?

[mighty cedar]

every time your shield bounces off your minion in its oath it does an aoe sweep

[vernal scroll]

And the dmg are enought to go up to wave 1k ???

Seems like a meme build not an efficient one, but it's seems not with the numbers

[mighty cedar]

its aoe, bleed /dot based.... you are blockingf everything. let me see what else, a lot of endruance stacking to take advantge of the block over cap

yea its essentially an attrition build

[vernal scroll]

attrition ?

[mighty cedar]

who dies first

the level of %dmg reduction this build has is insane

[vernal scroll]

So basically, he just blocked his shield throw and went afk over knight, woke up and was at 1k wave ?

[mighty cedar]

more than that but he does stay in 1 place ans use shield throw on his MA

and that buzz saws everything

[twilit valley]

These sanctum door disconnects are killling me

[viscid roost]

where can i find a healing hands lootfilter, the one i found in LEtools is empty and i cant find in maxroll or iceveins

[vale ravine]

rare lightless arbor win

[coarse coral]

Does Erasing Strike do any sort of phys into void conversion? I see it has a void tag but no physical tag, yet the tooltip doesn't mention anything about converting. Any % physical damage seems to still increase its damage.

[vale ravine]

you prob have flat phys on your weapon or something but ES is void by default

[coarse coral]

yeah, I do have flat phys on my weapon. Thanks!

[devout sierra]

So does anyone know if the node in forge strike that causes animate weapons to have a lower duration, is it less duration rather then decreased duration? the node does not state either way, but I have well over 100% inc duration so I should still have about 10% inc duration but my guys are blowing up way before 20 seconds

[cerulean sorrel]

Would scaling my smites damage up affect ignites ailment damage applied by my smites?

[mighty cedar]

do you have to beat the game to dp temporal sanctum?

[turbid dome]

You can enter sanctum the second you get to its door (as long as you have a key)

[mighty cedar]

ell tahts nice

[sterile latch]

Julras gloves probably bis for forge guard tbh (4lp perfect rolls)

[quiet hearth]

dont suppose there is a way to convert abyssal damages dot to fire?

[crimson remnant]

is this build good if I like erasing strike: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/bonk-knight---erasing-strike-void-knight

[crude matrix]

Bonk Knight - Erasing Strike Void Knight Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.6

Class

Sentinel / Void Knight

Used skills

• Void Cleave
• Erasing Strike
• Abyssal Echoes
• Volatile Reversal
• Anomaly

Used unique items

• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Shattered Chains
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Melee

Created by bokchoy · Mar 27, 2024, 2:03 AM

[cerulean sorrel]

Nemesis just really helped out my VK

[vale ravine]

ye abs. just note we got a new axe option, vitality scaling and a couple of interesting new unique rings in 1.1 so may want to play around with those

plus this build is giga top end, long time to get all of those in the planner

[night fiber]

Why does the bleed hammerdin get crit multi? I don't see much actual crit on the guide. Is it just cause it hits so often its nice to have those larger bleed procs?

[tardy mirage]

cant wait for sets to get an update ... so forged weapons can actually get their +3 from the set

[crimson remnant]

my build is kinda whack https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oyqYdMYo should I grind gears now to follow a build guide

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 71

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (56) / Forge Guard (1) / Paladin (6)

General:

▸ Health: 1,114, Regen: 18.55/s
▸ Mana: 98, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 73 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 91% / 76% / 78% / 87% / 66% / 92%
▸ EHP: 2,325 / 2,325 / 2,325 / 2,968 / 2,325 / 2,134 / 2,325

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 223
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (180)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,407)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Erasing Strike (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Rive (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Wing Guards
• Singularity

[night fiber]

Ah nvm i see unique gloves converts the multi

[vale ravine]

ye without know anything about the build guessing for salt

[outer hedge]

just noticed there's nothing useful idols for forgestrike/forged weapons beside small idols and ornate(?)

[crimson remnant]

where is the best place to farm for uniques suck as epathy and titanheart

[quiet hearth]

not a bad shield

[bleak breach]

titan heart is a world drop so blood, frost, and death timeline with the body unique or set rewards for monos would be the best, or CoF prophecies for unique body armor
for apathy's maw:

[crimson remnant]

ty man

[bleak breach]

careful on the prophecies though, the unique body armor icon is used for both "unique armor" and "unique body armor" prophecy rewards so make sure to double check

[cosmic fulcrum]

to start with Erasing Strike out of your levelling build you want a ES +3 chest, either World Splitter axe or Shadow Beacon mace and 400+ mana probably at least

[crimson remnant]

wait there is a different?

[cosmic fulcrum]

yes

[bleak breach]

one drops any unique armor, the other only unique body armor

[cosmic fulcrum]

"unique armor" = any armor (boots, gloves, etc.)

[bleak breach]

i totally didnt learn from experience, trust

[cosmic fulcrum]

me too lol

[crimson remnant]

i see, ty

[vale ravine]

if only i had a 2 LP theart lel

[mighty cedar]

well thats a useless one

[vale ravine]

aight...
time to reroll to CoF I guess, i ran out of both copium and hopium

[quiet hearth]

but what about the original opium? that might make you delusional enough to keep going

[vale ravine]

im on a visa, i cant be doing illegal stuff. need to be a model citizen and only do edibles but I fear those arent cutting it

[quiet hearth]

then you got the WRONG kind my friend XD, Ive never abided myself though but I have seen what they do to my wife lol

[vale ravine]

ye for some reason i discovered i have a small inherent resistance to it I guess. must be the years of drinking lol

[sterile latch]

You'll be back after running a mono 10 times and not getting the desired unique

[quiet hearth]

this double aura thing is going really good, I figured out a way to get like...30 double effect armor shred stacks in like 2s

[vale ravine]

jesus dont tell me you are dark shrouding

[quiet hearth]

I dont know what that is

[sterile latch]

Should I make a video on forge weapon bugs on a Friday so they don't patch it but people get to try it for a weekend?

[keen rock]

@rancid lantern I've been working on a build that basically ended up being exactly like yours, except I took Anomaly with Mark of Rot instead of Erasing Strike. I found your build because I came here to see if anyone knew if Ravaging Aura actually worked with Abyssal Echoes->Void Supremacy. Have you been able to confirm whether or not it does? I feel like it might not, since in the past several EHG people have claimed that subskills don't get modifiers that are "conditional" (eg, against slowed enemies).

[quiet hearth]

oh the body armor, well Im about to

what do you mean works?

Oh that ok, no it wont work because it specifically calls out void cleave and the aura, while a sub skill is a completely seperate thing

[keen rock]

I was worried about that.

[quiet hearth]

more armor on the armor hat alright

It's not that big of a deal honestly, if anything it saves you points

[keen rock]

I'm using Ravaging Aura as my primary damage source

[quiet hearth]

Perfectly fine, plenty of scaling there, take the node that casts abyssal echoes, spec it for the armor shred and to recast multiple times, bye by armor

[hollow spindle]

ugh, I don't want to drop my titan heart but this is such a good drop:

[vale ravine]

the things i find in my stash when looking for levelling gear lol

[sterile latch]

I noticed damage while channeling doesn't show up in lastepochtools if you search by items but it does if you search the list of prefixes. Wonder if it was like this for a bunch of affixes

[jade cedar]

did you guys also try to empower your avarice? lol

[mighty cedar]

soooooo ive made something curesed.... and need...... deep mechanics help ha

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZkN8dVo

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (63) / Forge Guard (15) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,869, Regen: 15.4/s
▸ Mana: 107, Regen: 8.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 3 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 83% / 83% / 80% / 72% / 77% / 81%
▸ EHP: 4,305 / 4,628 / 4,628 / 5,763 / 4,747 / 4,855 / 4,628

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 84%, Threshold: 444
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,674)
▸ Block Chance: 44%, Mitigation: 25% (450)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Void / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Shield Throw (20)
• Manifest Armor (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Shield Bash (20)

Used unique items:

• Defiance of the Forgotten Knight
• Blade of the Forgotten Knight
• Atrophy
• Bleeding Heart
• Anchor of Oblivion
• Stymied Fate
• Decayed Skull
• Siphon of Anguish

[keen rock]

Can void knight echoes trigger secondary skills? I assume not, but I'm unsure.

[quiet hearth]

no idea, if engi was around I'd say tag them

[vale ravine]

here here

"triggered skills cant echo but echos can trigger skills "

[keen rock]

Excellent, thank you.

[hollow spindle]

What is the drop rate on World Splitter? I'm doing 250 corruption kills on the harbinger and killed him at least 10 times...

[keen rock]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRmGYDYFYg 10% in Black Sun Timeline at base

[hollow spindle]

Yea I saw that, I thought maybe I was missing something. What does the up to 22% with increased rarity indicate though? How much corruption/rarity is needed to get to 22% drop rate?

[vale ravine]

i think scaling stops maybe 700ish but dont quote me on that

[keen rock]

Yeah that one I'm unsure about.

[quiet hearth]

I enemies are dying faster than I can get to warpathing

[keen rock]

I tried to do a multistrike build with palarus sacred light and aurelus (focusing on electrify with HH converted melee and smite) and I did not love it, but I bet the attack speed on that would have helped a lot.

[quiet hearth]

I did an electrify build with it for a bit, that worked pretty well

[keen rock]

I really struggled, but it could have been a skill issue.

[vale ravine]

[quiet hearth]

I dont think the global spell dmg node in warpath is working

[turbid dome]

To the target dummys!

[quiet hearth]

I always forget those since they moved them

actaully...where did they even move them to

[turbid dome]

The arena entrance

[quiet hearth]

no clue where that is

[vale ravine]

lol

[turbid dome]

Divine era, Ice area. Off of the wengari fortress

[keen rock]

You know, I think you might be right

[quiet hearth]

why the flying forinification is it THERE?!

[turbid dome]

Cause the arena is run by a wengari tribe

[vale ravine]

do you even campaign 😄

[quiet hearth]

Ive literally never seen it there

[vale ravine]

i dont know about ancient times but it is def there since at least 0.9.0

[turbid dome]

I mean if your doing the main quest and side quest in the wengari fortress you never go near the load zone to it

[quiet hearth]

That is literally dumb, whoever decided to put it there deserves a pay cut

[vale ravine]

i mean one side quest takes you to the other side of fortress so i usually just do the two translations while im there and grab the WP

[turbid dome]

Oh right the “stamina” potion quest

[vale ravine]

ye

[quiet hearth]

..the entrance isnt even near the road, you have to be looking for it, and what stamina potion quest?

[turbid dome]

The medicine man’s quest in herabora, go read the dialogue from talking to him as you complete the quest

[vale ravine]

Draven is having a quit moment

[turbid dome]

Or I guess talk to him again cause his lines don’t change

[quiet hearth]

with each statement it gets worse

[quiet hearth]

insert donald duck angry walk here

[turbid dome]

And with that amazing revelation by draven, good night everyone

[vale ravine]

nn

[keen rock]

@quiet hearth I think certain skills snapshot, here's what I just did:

1. Void Cleave to trigger Ravaging Aura. After ailments wore off, I was seeing ~16k ticks.
2. Void Cleave to trigger Ravaging Aura. After ailments wore off, I started to Warpath and still saw ~16k ticks while I was Warpathing.
3. Warpath, immediate Void Cleave. After ailments wore off, I was seeing 20k ticks while not Warpathing.

[quiet hearth]

i have too many effects so I cant tell which numbers belong ti which XD

it MIGHT be working, though I dont know if it's enough to justify the points

my dmg is also very variable, considering at any point an enemy might have 5 or 50 stacks of super armor shred

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, basically all skills snapshot on creation

[keen rock]

Only Abberoth's Command equipped, Ravaging Aura does 6805 after all ailments wore off.
After I get the Warpath->Momentum Buff, 8932 if Ravaging Aura is used WHILE warpathing.
After I get the Warpath->Momentum Buff, 12248 if Ravaging Aura is used AFTER STOPPING warpathing. Which means the Momentum node in Void Cleave doesn't trigger if you use Void Cleave while warpathing. Which is disappointing.

Oh looks like Theorycrafter already discovered that. Live and learn.

[vale ravine]

ye it's a known issue they just dont know how to fix it yet lol

[quiet hearth]

so it works I just have to do it in the right order

[keen rock]

I love LE. But little things like that seem to be in every corner of this game and it can be so very frustrating.

[quiet hearth]

In all fairness, do you know how to code? Can you keep up with 100k goblins looking in every nook and crany of your code to exploit everything to make number bigger?

[keen rock]

1. yes, 2) no but I'm 1 person not an entire team

[quiet hearth]

They aren't a big team, people seem to forget that

[vale ravine]

tbf there are couple things like that but overall I think LE is stil one of the best documented and least obscure ARPG out there

[keen rock]

Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying it's a bad game. I'm saying I'm frustrated, and I think that's reasonable.

[quiet hearth]

Im not saying that you are saying it's a bad game, and I agree it can be frustrating, but if you know how to code, you know how easy it is to miss something

[keen rock]

It happened with Spirit Plague bleed nodes, its still happening with Profane Veil Apocalypse nodes, it just.. it gets tiring to get excited about something, finally get to using it, only to discover it's broken.

[vale ravine]

oh ye skills being broken is def a thing lol. im only saying the intented behaviour is usually very well documented and clear

[alpine canopy]

Seems like it works as intended, no?

[quiet hearth]

I swear Im never gonna be able to take off these stupid void boots

[keen rock]

Not "rules as written" (to use the common TTRPG nomenclature). The text is, "After channelling Warpath for at least 2 seconds your next Void Cleave within 1 second deals more damage (multiplicative with other modifiers)." This does say I need to stop channeling Warpath to get the effect, only that I need to have been channeling Warpath for 2 seconds. And I would argue that it would be better design to have it work the way I expected it to work too, although that is a matter of opinion.

[alpine canopy]

It says within 1 second after channeling, that wouldn't make sense to work while still channeling

[quiet hearth]

I need another skill I can fire and forget

[keen rock]

Ehhh, I can see what your argument is on a re-read, but I also think it's vague. Only because of the english language, though. I read "after channeling warpath for at least 2 seconds" to mean, 'as long as you have been channeling warpath for 2 seconds'. It seems you read it as, 'as long as you stopped channeling a warpath that lasted at least 2 seconds'.

[quiet hearth]

here we go

[keen rock]

I'm not confident enough in my interpretation to say, "I'm absolutely correct" but I am confident enough in how the wording is to say, "that phrasing is kind of unclear, and I read it differently than it seems to have been intended".

[quiet hearth]

time to be disappointed

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it definitely could be worded better. I guess that's the struggle with a game that now supports multiple languages, changing descriptions to accomodate new mechanics can be a big workload.

[keen rock]

Yeah, ah well.

[quiet hearth]

oh man I have to egg this

[quiet hearth]

is there a mana stacking rogue build?

[vale ravine]

know about int stacking, havent heard about mana

[keen rock]

Does Anomaly->Mark of Rot work on bosses? I'm second guessing myself because it says Anomaly can't send bosses forward in time so maybe that never triggers at all, even if you take the node that makes it instantly trigger all the "back in time" nodes.

[quiet hearth]

yes, press alt on the skill it tells you it applies it

I guess I gotta go bear now

[vale ravine]

hate to disappoint but think many bear builds use it

cold crit basically adn even then you prob wanna do something else, like wall maybe

[hardy bronze]

Someone nudge me awake, I just bought +4 forge strike on the highest armor sentinel base with good affixes for 200k

[vale ravine]

enjoy, that may have been mine

put up the rest of my sentinel stock for reasonable prices, mostly 200k before rerolling XD

[hardy bronze]

Was the only one for sale on that base with t7

[vale ravine]

like i would bet my hat on it that there was another dupe wave, or the original one was still leaking cause prices went out of whack again. i just couldnt take it no mo

[lavish anvil]

Can't find a monument of protection anywhere trying to do a duel shield build

[polar spire]

Arena used to be accessible via end of time, it being over there is newer

And now that you know it was accessible via end of time
which do you prefer?

[vale ravine]

this, it adds to the immersion! 😄

[polar spire]

Actually somewhat yes! 2 in fact! Or just 1 if you blend them together

Aerial assault if you have enough max mana (i think 1000 on the dot?) Its one of the bottom middle nodes
And then puncture, and its one of the top left middle nodes

I screwed around and made a mana stacking rogue with that setup ages ago

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/eoyKDa9Q
It was never meant to be an actual build you played, and its prob had changes since it was made, it was me mainly just seeing if you could

[crude matrix]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0 PTR

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (5) / Marksman (28) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 986, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 964, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 37 Dex / 1 Int / 44 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 38% / 22% / 40% / 40% / 0% / 1% / 63%
▸ EHP: 3,777 / 3,397 / 3,847 / 4,020 / 2,968 / 2,985 / 4,637

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 591
▸ Dodge Chance: 62% (2803)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (372)
▸ Block Chance: 25%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Bow, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Concentration, Crimson Shroud (3/3), Haste

Used skills:

• Net (21)
• Puncture (21)
• Aerial Assault (21)
• Dive Bomb (21)
• Falconry (20)

Used unique items:

• Stormcarved Testament
• Thorn Slinger
• Xithara's Conundrum

[winged pulsar]

That rank 1 arena FG just duping/swiping nonstop on MG or what? He is lvl 99 (after the arena run) and only has 1 char.

[upbeat kiln]

you’re done playing sent for the cycle or somethin?

[vale ravine]

i mean i didnt delete my char but MG is unplayable right now, basically just treading water. may come back to push it further if the aspirational gear i want is realistically achievable, but right now it is not

(or I guess I could run lightless arbor til my nose starts bleeding and feed the RMT whales but that's not something I would enjoy doing)

[upbeat kiln]

Ah okay. I was just confused. Like why would he sell his gear. I assume if he’s switching to cof he could still us it since there’s no faction tag

[vale ravine]

oh ye i rerolled to a new char entirely 😄

unfortunately there is a faction tag on everything you buy

[spark monolith]

Yeah, sucks about MG. How far did you push your build?

[marsh warren]

Sorry English is tough. Is "aspirational gear" a type of gear or?

[vale ravine]

aint my first language either so word may not exist lol. i meant rare, EHP optimized gear specifically for pushing "high" on an HP based char

[marsh warren]

Ohhh I see

[vale ravine]

just baseline, not being able to upgrade weapon kinda sucks ass. 350-400 rn now without sweat, could push to 500-600 easy with current setup just eh

and i mean i didnt want big things, a 2LP titan and a 2LP splitter lol

[sweet hazel]

God I LOVE CoF

[vale ravine]

i hope it's not red because it is actually a red 😄

[sweet hazel]

Judgement time baby

[sweet hazel]

My uniques show red when they have at least 3LP.

[vale ravine]

23 pen goddamn

[sweet hazel]

1 off perf roll on all but probably one fo the most important affixes, sadly.

Or wait 18% is perfect? I can't tell with that weording. It's 18% to 64%

Oh hell yeah baby

[vale ravine]

i literally cant make myself play a sentinel build without a leonine helmet lol. tried many times, it somehow always sneaks back into my planner

[sweet hazel]

normallys ame but I can make an exception here if I get my T7 Vitality and T6 Health slam on it

[crimson rover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/fire_explosion
does this ability scale with only intelligence? or also attunement like its "parent" skill (smite)

[vale ravine]

in before an LP3 drops the next run lol

[crimson rover]

also does "killed by smite" also count for fissure? (the DoT on smite tree)

[opal sun]

Anyone running a voidsmite build? Wondering how y’all are gearing? Trying to see is using 2 of the smite swords will work

[tribal compass]

I'm trying Sentinel for the first time this season, following this build: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/paladin-leveling-guide

It's working okay, and I've just gotten to Empowereds and I'm able to muddle through with it. Echoes feel like they take a while and the jump from regular to Empowered has been a little rough, but I'm able to get through.

I'm working towards this build: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-aura-paladin-guide#build-scaling-header

I'm having a problem, though. The build I'm trying for has as its first step "Aim for good Item Bases with four valuable T5 Affixes." So far, I haven't gotten a single good base that has 4 affixes that the build needs. I've adjusted my loot filter to look for anything with the right affixes regardless of tier, but nothing with 4 build affixes has dropped in hours of play.

Is it normal to need to do like, kind of a lot of grinding to even start to use a more advanced build like this? Is there a different Paladin build I should try that has less stringent requirements to work well at the early end of Empowereds?

[vale ravine]

you rarely use gear as is, you take good 2-3/4s and craft on them

[tribal compass]

The 2s and 3s I've gotten have run out of Forging well before I get to T5, and the 4s that I've tried to Glyph of Chaos haven't rolled onto anything good. And even 3s with 3 good affixes have been pretty rare for me.

[opal sun]

Are you CoF?

[vale ravine]

well, yes, that happens 😄
but if you are now in empowered should be getting exalteds, which generally have higher FP. dont be too hang up on the second suffix, just keep crafting exalteds with T6s-T7s matching your build and you will get there

[tribal compass]

Yes. I tried doing MG last season and I never figured out how to price things, so I never had the money to buy anything important.

[vale ravine]

made the right choice lol

[pale night]

Is this good for minion build?

[opal sun]

As you progress CoF the drops will get better and better. Make sure you are spending your points on the prophecy targeting what you need

[tribal compass]

When can I make the swap over to my new build, if not when I have a full set of T20s? I don't want to switch over all my skills and passives and then not have the power I need to keep doing Empowereds, but I don't know when I'll be ready for the swap.

My other issue is that I can't do Julra above T1, so I can't slam the few legendaries I've gotten so far. I have a Bulwark with 1 LP and a shield with a Block T6 that I can try to slam with, but after half a dozen tries I keep dying to T2, and I need T4 to slam the Bulwark.

[vale ravine]

ohm... which mechanic you are dying to?

[tribal compass]

Generally the lightning turret one. I can't really see the tell against the floor.

[vale ravine]

you mean when she puts down the 3 turrets

[tribal compass]

When they do the thing where they target you with lightning bolts and you're supposed to dodge away once they stop moving.

[vale ravine]

you know you can just kill those turrets right after they spawn

[tribal compass]

I'm usually dead before I can react. I swap timelines to dodge the clock, then come back and the turrets are already down and targeting me. My first time I was dead in under a second after swapping back from dodging the clock.

[vale ravine]

i mean, ngl, if you need to play mechanics on T2 Julra then the build is suspect

or just gear up more, you dont need legos to progress 200-300-400 empowered monoliths, full exalted is perfectly fine

[tribal compass]

It's just the levelling Paladin guide on Maxroll. I'm certain my gear isn't as good as it can be, but it's not like. Awful, or anything. I have capped resists and seem to do decent damage, at least.

I definitely don't have full exalted, I think just my wand is exalted, the rest is rare. Haven't really found exalteds that fit the build well.

[spark monolith]

God, it takes forever to level factions 10/12 lvl 98

[tribal compass]

Oh, apparently I can just share my build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/DuckTapeAl/character/DuckTapeAl

[robust herald]

Is there a widely regarded #1 Bleed Hammer build guide creator out there? If so, could someone link their guide / media with info?

[sweet hazel]

The Paladin one on Maxroll is really well made.

[quick jasper]

Anyone have any tips for farming apathys maw? Or just go to empowered mono and then go in a straight line til you hit orobyss and kill then repeat

[sweet hazel]

Basically that. Rank 10 CoF can help but it's a little buggy.

[simple raven]

yep, this is the way

[quick jasper]

ah okay thought so ty

hopefully this doesnt take too long my damage is not great right now

[outer hedge]

where to get stalwart?

nvm found it

[crystal sparrow]

any VKs here that have easily kill pinnacle boss have a build they can share?

[simple raven]

guess ill save this for an alt of some kind -_-

[deft harness]

anyone knows if theres a unique like Flight of Quetzeri but for sentinel?

[sweet hazel]

Well, it slammed with +18 Vitality but got 23% armor bonus instead of the T6 health.

Still, that nearly perfect roll Face bumped my Novadin DPS from 94k to 158k, and every throw crits now.

[vale ravine]

i mean armor % is also good, gz!

my 4th preferred armor suffix 😄

[sweet hazel]

For sure. My dps is where I want it, now. Only big upgrades are to get a sick slammed Sun Seal, a slammed Razorfall and then just get my health to 3k or 4k. Got overcapped all res and 71% armor pdr, plus a good amount of endurance

A +Hammer Throw erased Sentinel wouldn't hurt either

[vale ravine]

noice. I was at 3.7k but i felt like I still need more lol

fun fact, i have a throw erased sentinel in my stash 😄

[sweet hazel]

I've been riding 2.2k-2.5k which is low end, but have had bad luck with health gear.

[sweet hazel]

God, I need one of those, lmao. I've done like 7 of them trying for a T7 +Hammer Throw in it.

+5 to hammer throw would allow every hammer to do double damage.

[vale ravine]

ye mine is only T6

still +3 if you want, not sure how to pass it on. is trading still disabled?

[sweet hazel]

You can trade, but we'd have to run monos or something until we get a Golden or Obsidian resonance afaik

[wooden narwhal]

hows rive vk doing this cycle?

[sweet hazel]

All good, though. I'm rolling a +3 Relic right now with good stats lol

[hallow slate]

Can anyone recommend a good sentinel build? Currently playing glacier sorcerer and love the heavy hits as a main but have seen shield bash fg or bleed hammerdin recommended

[vale ravine]

aight, let me know if it fails i could put it up and you quickly snipe it

[crystal sparrow]

i heard there was some build someone referenced as rive shadowcleave that was supposed to be really good against the pinnacle boss but im not sure which planner variant that is

[vale ravine]

this is mine

[limpid fiber]

Hi folks, short question about shield throws ricochet: There is the Aegis node which lets it ricochet to allies "other than myself". Maybe my english is to bad but if I understand it correctly it should mean that it should bounce to me even without the Aegis node. But it isn't. Am I missing something here or do i have to take Aegis to make it bounce between me and a boss?

[sweet hazel]

The wording is to imply that you can't keep bouncing it between you and an ally.

It has to bounce from ally to ally

[lyric dirge]

anyone know if obliteration and instruments of destruction in erasing strike are fixed like they said in patch notes for Void Beams? allocating either of those nodes does not change tooltip of the void beams 😦

[limpid fiber]

Thanks 🙂

[oak helm]

Can sentinel use Event horizon in any build?

[wooden crag]

just lost my vk on hc cuz the game crashd...

[zealous raven]

Paladin healing hands+riive good?

[jade cedar]

rip in peace

[hardy jasper]

rive is really good this cycle so I suppose it would be yes

[rancid lantern]

Unless the numbers on dummy make tricks on me, it is working

[orchid drum]

Hi i am confused about the judgement skill that cost a lot of mana to use and i saw that i can add smite to the attack does that mean that the passive from the paladine works, its called the time of faith note (i feel like it does not give enoff mana )

[rancid lantern]

You need to use the skill directly

meaning, triggered smite won't give you mana. Only if you cast it directly.

[orchid drum]

oh ok dam

[jade cedar]

how should i target farm harbinger drops? just keep killing them? will blessings like increase xx drop rate work?

[orchid drum]

thx for reply

[rancid lantern]

Yes and yes

[marsh warren]

Brother I am currently leveling one and it has only given me hammer throw procs. It's at like t5 or 6 and 9 more levels to go. The problem is I'm an ignite shield rush build lmao

[hardy bronze]

This was my 3rd one, but I can't complain since I'm playing forged weapons so t7 minion damage will do quite nicely

[marsh warren]

Pretty solid. I will one day get one with elemental damage over time🙏🏼

[simple raven]

nice one. i want one that doesnt have +freeze multiplyer xD

[hardy bronze]

Still can't believe I got this from the marketplace, anyone wanna take a guess how much I paid?

Gonna seal that %mana and put in void as phys probably

[sly valley]

how do you target farm this one ? unique relic CoF ?

[hardy bronze]

I'm MG, I just buy them

[sly valley]

😮

[marsh warren]

It's either gonna be like 500m or 20k gold lmao

[hardy bronze]

200k

[marsh warren]

One zero off lmao

[hardy bronze]

:D

Was only one listed too

[marsh warren]

You either pick prophecies or go to the respective monolith. I usually use the ones that increase the price of your prophecies or double the uses. I've gotten some that say kill 250 corruption Black sun boss and drops 20 unique body armors. 3 uses

[sly valley]

😮

250 bigbirds to kill ?

[hardy bronze]

250 corruption

[simple raven]

😂

[hardy bronze]

This build actually slaps

I didn't think empowered mono nemesises would disappear as quickly as normal ones did

[crimson rover]

riverbend grasp throws an axe with 1 sec cooldown, is this cooldown shared with sentinel's axe thrower node (also has 1 sec cd)

[upbeat kiln]

Ah fellow floaty weapon user ey. Yeah I love it

[sterile latch]

shouldn't be shared

[crimson rover]

you big sure?

[hardy bronze]

Leveled to 80 in one sitting and blasting through empowered atm

Resistances still a bit fuzzed up but at least I don't have to stand infront of anything to tank damage

Poison 37 ☠️

[upbeat kiln]

Yeah. Truly the watch YouTube on second monitor playstyle for me lol

Im not using any ailments in mine though

[upbeat kiln]

Pretty sure that’s been a thing

[hardy bronze]

Ailments are an option? I suppose bleed is the foremost

[sterile latch]

I recently started getting 1 shot by random crits like from lighting geometry 😭 can't Netflix and empowered mono as easily now. Swapped in some citadel greaves with 70% crit reduction

[hardy bronze]

But I feel the crit route is superior

[upbeat kiln]

Oh I don’t know. Ignite/Fire I assume. But yeah no I agree crit is what I’m doing

[hardy bronze]

Did you see the chest I got?

[upbeat kiln]

A beauty I tell ya

Especially since your manifest armor inherites your chestplate stats. I think at 160% at max. Pretty much the exalted you want. Not even sure if I want a unique one there. Still figuring stuff out

[sterile latch]

chestplate gets bonus 150% for like 250% total

[hardy bronze]

Yep

[upbeat kiln]

I’d put another armor stat on there though if it were me

[hardy bronze]

I'm not sure I can do that

Would need to rune of removal a suffix and that's super risky

[upbeat kiln]

Yeah. Unfortunately

[sterile latch]

Current hypothesis is the #1 leaderboard is snapshotting when summoning the golem and then changing to 100% tank items. God that build is tanky. 99% block chance 75% of damage reduced on block BASE without any buffs

Imo building for forged weapons is so much better

Wouldn't be surprised if #1 got some buffs outside the arena from friends before entering somehow

[upbeat kiln]

I was testing out stealth as well but I didn’t feel it working (New Boots). Thought that combined with the MA taunt would be nice

I mean maybe a little bit but eh

[jade cedar]

fastest echo ever lol literally spawned beside me

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, its 2 differents sources

[hardy bronze]

Nemesis is ridiculous

[upbeat kiln]

#🔱┃sentinel message

Got this earlier. Wish it was attunement

Not sure what to sell it for

[crimson rover]

🫡

[hardy bronze]

I'm sorry what

[sterile latch]

Starting to feel like strength is better. There's more nodes that scale off it including one for critical strikes for fg.

[upbeat kiln]

Alright calm down

[sterile latch]

[hardy bronze]

Fuzzing bank it?

[upbeat kiln]

I’ll have to experiment with it but at the moment my build is pretty much me doing subpar to okay damage while my minions do all the work, while generating more forged weapons. Keeping the 12 upkeep constant

Maybe it’s better to find a fine line between maybe not. Definitely will have to fiddle with it

[jade cedar]

this mf isnt dropping for me

[hardy bronze]

Oh it's only 10%

I got one of those from Harbinger

[sterile latch]

do u have 2 grips?

[hardy bronze]

I do

[upbeat kiln]

I just started my forge guard yesterday. I can get em. Sold a idol for like 100m yesterday. Still building into it

Put yeah I already got everything planned out. 2 grips most definitely and probably falcon fist with a T7 melee attack speed on it

Really the only choice there

[sterile latch]

Buy them asap. I can't say any more. Devs are watching

[upbeat kiln]

Fair enough. Was just waiting for prices to stabilize more because I’m still leveling. In no rush to get everything and have it sit in storage

The gold bug thing really did a number

[sterile latch]

Frick I alt tabbed out of TSanctum

[upbeat kiln]

Oh I’m also in there lol

Oh wait thought you meant something else. I’m not even online. Currently at work. Got 50 minutes still until I leave

Been here since 10pm. Currently 6:12am

[sterile latch]

Oh lol what did u think I meant?

Wherever it is I'm betting they don't give you these

[mighty cedar]

Does ignite bypass ward?

[upbeat kiln]

The trading discord. Also had Sanctum in the name. Not sure why I thought that. Legit makes no sense

[sterile latch]

no, nothing should (except executes maybe)

[mighty cedar]

Okay now to figure out how to self ignite haha

[sterile latch]

with sentinel? Maehlin's hubris + oblation I think was the combo last season for acolyte

[mighty cedar]

Are those ignite on hit or kill?

[sterile latch]

on cast of fire or necrotic skills for oblation

The combo used to give u 240 spell dmg. Now it gives 40 😭

[mighty cedar]

I’m looking at it for ward

There is something that gives ward per ignite stack on enemy and on yourself but I can’t remember what the item was

[upbeat kiln]

Could always go to the tools website and search ignite in the items section

Pretty much what I do when I’m planning builds. Keywords

[hallow slate]

Which forge guard build seems to scale better rn, minions or shield bash

[sterile latch]

That's rough. But at least it's only a little more till u can get to blasting monos

[hallow slate]

Im tempted by shield bash just for the impact feeling

[sterile latch]

Without having played shield bash I'm gonna say minions are stronger for now

[turbid dome]

I think minions do better with dots (more hits = more dots)

[hardy bronze]

Not forge weapons

[turbid dome]

Darn

[hardy bronze]

It's so easy to get a lot of crit on them

[polar spire]

Poison resist too, poison resist is a pain in the a*s to get ahold of, unless you're a pal and get the 20% off holy aura or run with one

[granite cradle]

Well, I guess this settles what I am going to be makign this HC SCF Sentinel.

[sterile latch]

lmao

[polar spire]

Hey thats good, paladins always done minion builds better than fg, like pal spellcaster MA, which wrouk did last cycle and held #1 for like 2 weeks.
So if the reworks this good for fg, then hell yea

Oh yea like charlie said earlier, buy up grips soon as possible

This is the meteor belt situation all over again, but worse

[upbeat kiln]

don’t tell me something’s wrong with it

[polar spire]

Meteor belt used to have flat crit on it, they had to remove that cause everyone would run it for the crit
This is a low lp ring with flat crit and you can have 2 of
Idk why they did this again, obviously didnt learn from meteor belt
Every builds gonna grab em up

[upbeat kiln]

Oh I see

[polar spire]

Ive already crafted a couple letools builds that used them purely for the crit

[upbeat kiln]

Thought there was like a serpent strike thing going on here

[polar spire]

And they have % mana
That goes hard on a good chunk of mage builds

[granite cradle]

What do? What are we talking about here?

[polar spire]

Crit and mana? Say no more

[upbeat kiln]

Phantom Grips. What you just rolled

[polar spire]

The fg grip rings
If you're mg, buy em up, cause every build that goes crit is gonna want em

Hell i'd run em on a non-minion forge strike build, because 1 point on the right in the tree instantly makes forge strike minion tagged, so thats an easy 2-4 skill points to it

Oh wait, no its already minion tagged, im thinking too much of logi's because its fire minion

I was messing with an all skill with max rolls setup earlier, and you can get forge strike up to 40/20

[granite cradle]

and i just had a 119% reach of the grave drop

[granite cradle]

They rolled in my first nemesis. I'm going to grab them, I empowered to see what I get. Was that a bad decision because it might f them up and can't throw them in the egg?

[upbeat kiln]

You can only empower once so yeah. RNG will tell if it was bad or not

[polar spire]

I mean, doesnt hurt to empower them if they wouldnt have lp to begin with
Just base grips is all thats needed

Flat crit on an item is hot af, especially on rings
Its gonna 100% get nerfed next cycle

I will say though that loot wise, this cycle feels fantastic, so i can totally understand if they knew full well what they were doing adding flat crit to those rings

[upbeat kiln]

Oh yeah it’s great

[polar spire]

99% sure they'll remove the crit at the end of the cycle

[sterile latch]

reason to go fg is cuz the chinese theorycrafters did the math and 12 swords > 1

[granite cradle]

Do they retroactively modify items as well? Or will they be extra valuable in legacy at some point bc they have flat crit?

[polar spire]

They've been pretty half and half on that so you cant really be sure

[upbeat kiln]

lol. Still don’t know what they were thinking with that sunforged set. Not worth in the slightest

Get 3 extra swords, sick man. No chest plate, no weapon, and what was the third piece

[polar spire]

To be fair, most sets are absolute trash
besides shattered lance
But bits and pieces of a set can be worth it, like just the hammer is very strong

Helmet

[upbeat kiln]

Ah yeah

[polar spire]

Ive made builds before that had the additional minions, but werent minion builds, and just had them for the massive damage from the hammer

[upbeat kiln]

I forgot the stats on em to be honest

Alright I’m home. Now I can play for like 2 hours, sleep then back to work for 10 hours

Life is great

[polar spire]

So per forged weapon its 18-25 melee fire for smelters
10-15 for fs
And 25-42% ignite chance

[polar spire]

I basically just have to stay awake
I work graveyard
Play LE on a steamdeck

[upbeat kiln]

You know I was thinking of buying one of those

Or a rog ally but just never did

[polar spire]

Its worth it

I'd say a good 1000 of my 6000+ hours on LE over the years has been via my steamdeck

[upbeat kiln]

Ayo. I don’t even have 1000. Let alone 500. I’m coming up on it thou

[granite cradle]

t2 health regen on 1 and t3 increased elemental damage over time on the other ring

[polar spire]

Ele dot's great if you build molten infusion void cleave and then vc gets 300% ignite anyways

Could play warpath and have it spit out forged weps, take the new abberath sceptre and slam vc's while spinning

Then you can tie in fire abyssal echoes, or vr, or hh on vc hits

[granite cradle]

warpath can spit out forged weps?

[solid forge]

Yes, every 2s

[upbeat kiln]

Yep that’s the route I’m taking. Just warpath though not the other stuff

[polar spire]

Yea bottom right node, warpath, rive, and of course forge strike
Multistrike can in a way too

[granite cradle]

Does FS mods affect the weapons like other proc trees? Stupid question, I know.

[upbeat kiln]

Tried rive. But I didn’t like it. Chance on kill and elite/boss hit but you’re at a point where you’re minions are doing so much damage they’re killing everything

[polar spire]

Ive done a fire abyssal echoes healer before, and since vc can cast it and we have the scepter now, im considering doing a fire warpath with fire vc and fire echoes support

And then vc can cast HH during warpath lmao

[granite cradle]

Well, I wish i knew this before I chose FG lol. Time to grab these rings and reroll it seems

[upbeat kiln]

lol

[polar spire]

That time i made fire abyssal echoes to be a healer support for the "soon to be released multiplayer" and then quickly found out you could heal yourself for 5000 a second with it, and it became an amazing boss face tank that could sit in literally all mechanics, including T4 julra nuke

[upbeat kiln]

Wait why are we rerolling. What you going for

[granite cradle]

I chose FG. I like Pal better but FS buffs ar enice for weapons, right?

I'm level 19 right now.

[polar spire]

Pal with spellcaster forgebreath based manifest armor is nuts
Wrouk held #1 on arena leaderboards for 2 weeks straight EVEN WHEN hh ward was completely nuts and broken.
He got spellcaster ma forgebreaths to hit for 800k every cast

[upbeat kiln]

Man just summoned em

[polar spire]

For sentinel leaderboards
Of course rogue and warlock wete nuts af ahead

[fair hollow]

You can go over 1mill per hit rn

[granite cradle]

I'm just visualizing my weapons with the Firestarter and the clearing of trash speed lol

[fair hollow]

But defences are gutted with removal of avil stance

[granite cradle]

The end result.

[polar spire]

Ngl, one on the right i like
Was messing with shattered lance sentinel again earlier and was also using the rings for the flat crit, and had health regen slapped on em, so hey, that works

[granite cradle]

I think I need to find some boss gloves though with the 145% extra glove stats

[polar spire]

I've always enjoyed Rogues Falcon Fists, they're basically a better wing guards that allow crits, and are low lp threshold and not terribly difficult to get 4lp on

Like last cycle i had 2 4lp's of em, as cof

A lot of people neglect falcon fists cause its mostly rogue stats
But the melee attack speed and melee fire for yourself and minions actually goes hard af

And then also the 4lp

[upbeat kiln]

#🔱┃sentinel message

Ah yes smart minds. Really the only choice there imo

[lost python]

Has anyone killed abberoth on FG?

[hardy bronze]

Yes

With forge strike warpath

[lost python]

Any videos ? Hard to find something

[hardy bronze]

GringoGaming on youtube has some

[quiet hearth]

what is FS/warpath? Im assuming just spawning weapons in with warpath mostly and occasionally bonking them

[hardy bronze]

No bonking required

Warpath does it all, movement, summons new weapons

[lost python]

Checking right now

[hardy bronze]

Stacks armor shred, doom and so on

[quiet hearth]

I guess they inherit everything form FS anyway, which honestly feels like they should just add those FS nodes to the passive tree instead and do something else with it

[turbid dome]

I think it would be cool if forged weapons had their own tree like MA, being put in the passive tree would really eat a lot of points from FG

[winged pulsar]

Look up cycle 1 solo leaderboards. Some dude hit 2k waves on all 3 sentinel classes.

[quiet hearth]

I can get why they dont, they are meant to be like the locusts, but fair enough FG is already very point heavy for not a lot of return outside of crits right now

[hardy bronze]

What's with my RNG rn? Red Ring and now this

[turbid dome]

I could see them getting their own “skill” tree as a mastery bonus for picking forge guard doesn’t take up a skill specialization

[frigid hatch]

Confused. I'm getting way more damage out of the left wand even though it looks way worse. Is it just the ignite chance? This is on javelin

[turbid dome]

Why are you using javelin with a wand? Is it triggering smite

As for your question, it’s probably the ignite as I don’t think the right wand has anything that helps javelin

[simple raven]

if i can do c 350-370 bosses without a problem, would i be able to swing aberroth?

[sly valley]

is javelin a spell ? 🤔

[turbid dome]

It’s a throwing attack that can get extra damage if your holding a spear

Jav is cool

[sly valley]

a wand is a short spear 👌

[turbid dome]

[lost python]

Meowmeow

[turbid dome]

Can’t argue with that

[quiet hearth]

Just give FG a flat more multi on armor for the passive on sent

[fair hollow]

Sentinel Minion scaling of strenght instead of attunement would be easy defence fix

[sly valley]

something like 5% more damage per 1000 armor

[hollow spindle]

Grats on the rare staff. Unfortunately it's so niche it has almost no place in the VK tree. Shadow Orb builds still prefer to use the Shadow Beacon mace, and the only other spell that makes sense to use the staff with is Abyssal Echoes.
I suppose you could make a theoretical build based off a few nodes there to make Echoes your main skill: You'd have to get Dark Torrent and Time Compression nodes to make it spammable/targetable (that requires a minimum of 12 points to get to) I guess it's feasible but just seems like it wasn't well thought through from a design standpoint.

[turbid dome]

Direct cast Void smite staff?

[hardy bronze]

I read a guide pre-release about autobomber VK that used this staff together with some gloves

Ravenous Void iirc?

[turbid dome]

The mimic gloves?

[hardy bronze]

Maybe?

[hollow spindle]

That may be the case, but i think the autobomber still prefers shadow beacon. I could be wrong, I'm just spitballing ideas here so this doesn't come from a place of practice on my part.

[turbid dome]

Ok yeah the mimic gloves

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcCYyA

[sterile latch]

mimic gloves op (for survivability as long as you have cleanse)

[turbid dome]

Ye

[hollow spindle]

Also the gloves don't really do anything to the build, they are great defensively assuming you have a cleanse affix on your belt.

[sterile latch]

I got freeze rate multiplier from nemesis on my mimic gloves. They were my most expensive purchase last season

And now there's wall of nothing

[hollow spindle]

I haven't seen how wall of nothing can be used with VK yet. thoughts? seems like its made for ward builds

[sterile latch]

Twisted heart was what I was thinking with healy hands

And Aurora's for rofl tank on vitality void knight

[winged pulsar]

he didnt reach 2k arena waves. go to the "solo" arena boards. not 1 player

[lost python]

Maybe I misunderstood you, will check in house. 👌

[sterile latch]

God damn forge guard is the only class at 1k though. 200 waves above rank 2.

[hollow spindle]

@sterile latch Twisted heart only works with elemental or necrotic spells. healing hands doesn't thave the elemental tag.

[sterile latch]

Oh I thought fire spells would work

[winged pulsar]

duping/rmt is a helluva drug

[hollow spindle]

You'd think, but unfortunately It needs to have the base "elemental" tag on it.

[sterile latch]

Lame

Rank 1 has wall of nothing so at least we know it's viable

[hollow spindle]

Wait, I could be wrong on the elemental tag

[winged pulsar]

ya his build is still really amazing

[quiet hearth]

I should make a jav build based around that node where they fall from the sky

[polar spire]

You know how siege barrage doesnt work with divine fury

sierpins doesnt give a fck*

[turbid dome]

Wall of nothing is more for an endurance threshold build as it makes each point of endurance threshold be more effective hp. I personally think it’s the best on druid because they get a lot of %max health as endurance threshold, so it turns into a very nice tool to prevent one shots.

[quiet hearth]

I never said I was using divine fury?

[polar spire]

You didnt
I did

[quiet hearth]

thanks for the input I guess?

[polar spire]

Whats wall of nothing? Best endurance threshold build ive ever made was on rogue, also most tankiest build ive ever made by far

[turbid dome]

You get up to like 80% of your endurance threshold as ward decay threshold to help prevent one shots

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsGYFYBYg

[quiet hearth]

I wanna combine that with the new uber ward shield

Also Amadora, was that sort of a just so you know thing? Im not awake yet so I might just be dumb

[hollow spindle]

More effective than Titan Heart, Null Portent, or Exsanginous? (I know the last one requires building differently but it is a great defensive chest regardless)

[polar spire]

Being that i have a rogue build that gets up to 6000 health with threshold covering all of it and can eat julra nukes for breakfast, i should go back and take another crack at it with the new gear

[turbid dome]

If your class has access to a lot of %max health gained as endurance threshold or other endurance threshold support, I would say yes.

Sentinel lacks like any endurance support so I would say no for sentinel

[polar spire]

Its 100% a bossing build though, doesnt suit farming whatsoever, but it can sit in virtually every boss mechanic in the game

[turbid dome]

Falconer?

[polar spire]

Naaa bladedancer, but i will need to see how falconer will change it up

[hollow spindle]

Aka: The most broken class in the game for 2 cycles in a row now?

[polar spire]

Prob better honestly
It just uses 1 unique

[lost python]

Is there a planner for it? Looking for some boss killer this cycle

[turbid dome]

Hey it was fairly balanced when I did a pipe bomb bird build

[polar spire]

I'd have to go back and restructure it, i used it to help friends by tanking bosses in massively high corruptions. All it is is dusk shroud stacking + mountain boots to turn all the dodge from dusk into threshold

[lost python]

So zero damage, pure tank build

[hollow spindle]

Wow, the only passive endurance sentinel has is in the paladin tree and both are supremely lackluster.

[turbid dome]

Yup

[polar spire]

Yea, the damage initially was from the shadow daggers being 100% crit and just spamming puncture
but that got nerfed

[turbid dome]

The DR from over capped resistance chest armor is much better for sentinel I think

Given sentinel really lacks like any DR

[hollow spindle]

Null Portent? Yea but it requires you to be 40% over cap for each and every resistance to gain value from it doesn't it?

[polar spire]

Thats easily achieveable on a warpather

If its a shield warpath with T7 all resists suffix and relic with T7 all resists while channeling suffix

[timber sand]

warpath warriors fury and echo knight does it work - do the echos benefit from warriors fury without costing me more mana?

[turbid dome]

That’s not that hard once you consider exalted resistance affixes

[polar spire]

And now that abberath sceptre exists, you can run a fire ignite spamming warpath with vc, hh, abyssal echoes, vr and max resists in 2 items

[hollow spindle]

Not saying under the correct circumstances Null Portent may be stronger, but Titan Heart requires 0 investment and gives you 15% flat DR out of the gates. Null Portent requires building that extra resists into the build in some way.

[quiet hearth]

Without investment titan heart would be better definitely, but null will be better once you have those resist, that extra 5% is big, not to mention the chance not to take dmg on a hit

[hollow spindle]

Chance to not take damage is from Wall of Nothing, not Null Portent.

[turbid dome]

Plus null doesn’t turn off your regen.

Titan is def the budget option/easier to put into any build

[quiet hearth]

keep in mind converting vc to fire doesnt change the aura dmg

which is still BS imo

[turbid dome]

null also gives overkill leech

[hollow spindle]

Sure, but useless against bosses, great against mobs though

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s basically a never die while running echos affix

[frigid hatch]

Leveling guide says to use wands with javelin DoT build

[polar spire]

i dont even touch the aura

I just have vc for the echoes and hh, LOL

[turbid dome]

Do the dots scale with spell damage? I haven’t ever done a javelin dot build, this is a genuine question

[quiet hearth]

yep

[turbid dome]

Ah

[quiet hearth]

at 250% too

[hollow spindle]

@turbid dome Need some suggestions on where to put these 7 points. (could be paladin or forge knight trees as well) but I can't switch to a mana based VK build until the game stops preventing World Splitter from dropping...

[quiet hearth]

It's still wrong, you should level with Rive, realize it's better than anything you can build, move on

[turbid dome]

Then to answer your original question @frigid hatch your wand on the left had higher implicit spell damage and ignite

[polar spire]

Facts
Rive > everything

They could reduce sentinel to a state where all 3 masteries are gone and the only skill available is rive

[mighty cedar]

Does ashes of mortality, “ward gain on hit and ignite on you” both have a 2 second cd or just the ignites on you portion

[quiet hearth]

I have three of these, the other two are 25%

[polar spire]

too bad crit rive got nerfed

[turbid dome]

Abyssal endurance is always solid.

Time flux is always nice (and is one point).

What does your base sentinel tree look like?

[quiet hearth]

lol, it doesnt matter, it's still hilariously good

[polar spire]

I love laceration rive though, jaspers searing pride makes rive go hard af

[hollow spindle]

@turbid dome

[quiet hearth]

I should try a crit judgement one day

[polar spire]

You sorta missed your chance

[quiet hearth]

Not really, all the tools are still there, just lower numbers

[hollow spindle]

Doesn't void flux (the capstone 1 pointer) do nothing against bosses though?

[polar spire]

I mean you can still do it, and prob do it fine, but the 2 nerfs to mana consumption for damage was ouchies

[turbid dome]

Previously mentioned nodes are what I would go

The vitality and health regen opener is nice in base sentinel but I’m guessing you have titans heart

[quiet hearth]

It was 100% needed, just still stack mana and use world eater and judgement the whole screen

[queen spade]

I already theory crafted a build shhh

[polar spire]

Judgement was the hardest hitting skill in the game, capable of 1 shotting bosses
I mean yea it needed to be toned down, 80 mill crits was nuts
and then falconer came along

[quiet hearth]

listen, Rogue needs some spotlight time as long as shes been in the dark

[lost python]

I tried judgment one shot build. It was so clunky with power armor. Horrible to play

[hollow spindle]

Correct

[turbid dome]

@hollow spindle Yeah but it’s a single point that saves me a lot while fighting everything else. Plus it can yeet a bosses’s summons away.

Consider it insurance so you don’t loose the echo reward

[polar spire]

It depends on how you have it setup, mine at the time was extremely mobile cause i had javelin dash and smite teleport alongside the VR and shield bash

[quiet hearth]

All the build up, and then you could just slap all the same things onto Rive and three shot anything in the same time frame with half the hassle xD

[polar spire]

I bounced around maps like a poe flicker strike build

[hollow spindle]

That's a good point

[lost python]

I switched to judgement aura, got insane gear fast and quit 🤣

[polar spire]

With VR's cd reduction on kill, i had gotten it to the point where i could judgement every 2-3s

[quiet hearth]

Im doing judge aura right now with ravaging aura it's kinda funny with the new sceptre

[turbid dome]

I haven’t tested if it actually does anything to bosses, given they get yeeted like a 1/1000 of a second into the future.

It has saved me vs corpse dragon from getting stuck on his summons when trying to avoid stuff

[lost python]

I remember getting weird bugs using violatile reversal in TS

[polar spire]

Oh like how it shoots you across the map?

VR in temporal sanctum is hilarious, game doesnt know where to put you so it just shoots you across the maps repeatedly

[mighty cedar]

For things like 100% of void dmg converted to fire… does void res apply before the dmg calculation and conversion? Or it’s not needed?

[quiet hearth]

wait we can get 100% void to fire?

[lost python]

Best were DC doing Jurla xdd good times in 1.0

[polar spire]

You can flee screaming into another timeline, then accidentally VR back into whatever made you scream
Kinda like hardcore players that VR back into lagon laser and immediately die

[turbid dome]

Time magic + time magic = fun times

[hollow spindle]

@turbid dome eventually when I get world splitter I plan to put 5 points into each of the forge guard points (with yellow being one or the other optional choices) to max out mana=damage synergy

[polar spire]

Its sorta like a rite of passage for VR players to rewind back into a lagon laser at least once

[turbid dome]

Or using VR back to when you had 5 hp and getting slapped

[polar spire]

Engi you throw me off so hard, cause i know someone else who also goes by engi, and they use the exact same pfp

[quiet hearth]

so I have warpath but like, nothing really lives long enough to spin xD

[turbid dome]

Really?

[polar spire]

Ever done a pure aoe warpath?

[polar spire]

Yea lol, dudes had the name and pfp for ages now

[quiet hearth]

I have, I wanna do an event horizon WP

[turbid dome]

Lol I’ve never met another Engi

[polar spire]

Ya know what, im kinda wondering about melee channeled HH event now, since its a forced 4 hits per second to ignore events slower attacks

[turbid dome]

That looks good to me, there’s probably someone else in here who could help you optimize for world splitter

[queen spade]

The melee slow affects the HH channeled cast startup

[hollow spindle]

I shouldn't get ahead of myself, can't get the damn thing to drop despite killing that Black Sun harbinger at least a dozen times at this point.

[turbid dome]

keep killing them

[queen spade]

It feels bad starting a spin at negative attack speed

[polar spire]

Yea i did think about that too, since, funnily enough warpath's startup is affected by cast speed too

[quiet hearth]

I think vengeance would be good, you build your stacks and then the reposte and iron daggers do the work, that and the retribution node

[twilit valley]

Sexy drop

[polar spire]

Shark beastmaster with event is stupid on the other hand, it can get up to like +70% AS with a full stacked event

Which is still hilarious when shark bm's can get well above 400% AS which is game breaking levels of AS

[turbid dome]

I wish I could put the harbirnger needle thing into the center slot of my idols

[quiet hearth]

I gotta get around to building my superbear build

[twilit valley]

I agree

[quiet hearth]

real talk right here

[polar spire]

New fury leap cdr boots make me wanna try event on leapspam bear

[turbid dome]

Don’t forget the sword that converts it to cold

[polar spire]

I havent really figured out the point of that sword yet

Like a shattered lance werebear still wouldnt use that sword

[queen spade]

I wish judgement counted as a spell cast for its aura so I could use the guaranteed fire spell crit idol for judgement

[turbid dome]

Convert to cold 👍

Don’t ask if it’s useful or not just cold 👍

[polar spire]

Cold leap with cold upheaval + cold roots

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, I wanna do a SL werebear because those new regen nodes are broken in half

[polar spire]

I was looking at avalanches skill tree earlier and why havent i seen anyone talk about shaman cause holy jesus f$-k

[turbid dome]

Wasn’t shaman like really bad before last cycle

[polar spire]

Its a mana chugger, but it can spam earthquakes and upheavals

Like the new avalanche LOVES the forge guard rings

[quiet hearth]

because holy mana costs batman, and forget ava, have you seen that shock totem node that adds chance to shock and chance to shock attackers as flat spell damage?

[polar spire]

See i have a fix for that
Avalanche isnt the main dps its the proccer
Run the worlds edge axe with double forge guard rings and have eq and upheaval be the main damage source

Actually wait does coldstone ele's add minion tag to avalanche, 1 sec

[quiet hearth]

Shock totem gets 2 spell dmg per 10 chance to shock attackers and we have this thing

[hollow spindle]

Guess if i complain long enough the game will drop it lol, not the greatest rolls though

[polar spire]

Oof them rolls though
But yea, guess you cant complain, and it does have 1lp

[quiet hearth]

so min roll is like 60 flat dmg with that shield before your shock chance too

[polar spire]

10-22% drop chance with a 12% chance for 1lp

[polar spire]

I didnt even run shock totem
I slapped bear on and had it spawn claw totems LMAO
i also considered upheaval totem, but then that prob removes it from the world edge equation

World splitter*

[quiet hearth]

I dont think anyone has thought about shock totem, because it's been so bad but that ONE node and shield means with proper gear you can get almost 200 flat

[polar spire]

You say that, but unless its been fixed, wasnt there a completely immortal shock totem build with boardmans set cause of a bug

[turbid dome]

I have like 5 of this rock and am tempted to try zap totems

[polar spire]

Lightning smiters love this btw

[turbid dome]

Void smite gang

[polar spire]

d i s g u s t

[quiet hearth]

I also wanna do rampage lightning bear while DW the new smite swords and just stacking str for double str to spells and they use the meteor belt

[twilit valley]

How does key of memory work ? Do you start at 100 always or does it continue at the wave you died

[polar spire]

If its not still bugged with desync, bear can actually spam tap rampage faster than sentinel can spam tap shield rush

[waxen nymph]

100 or half your last run, what ever the highest

[turbid dome]

I love the void, it smells like pancakes

[quiet hearth]

desync is the ONLY reason I havent tried it

[polar spire]

What this means, is if you get the ward on traversal boots, and get it T7, werebear can rampage 10-15 times per second if you break your keyboard hard enough

[twilit valley]

Ok thanks . I did my first run for like wave 156 before I got disconnected . Will try again later

[quiet hearth]

I thought about dropping the DW and using the staff that converts meteor to lighting and just stacking lightning pen

[polar spire]

They really need to make a lightning staff that isnt a set piece

Cause otherwise, drago claw dagger is like the main spellcaster weapon for crit builds

[turbid dome]

Sorc has the gate staff

Celestial doom is also a really cool staff

[quiet hearth]

yeah it is

[turbid dome]

Tho yeah a lot of the unique staffs are either void or mana stacking/sorc stuff

[quiet hearth]

I dont know if I wanna do rampage bear nonsense or storm totem first

[polar spire]

Was letools crafting a shaman build with that earlier since its doom pulse on direct cast and yulia's path boots turns maelstrom into necrotic

[haughty canopy]

@polar spire fractured drain still best area to pop for dagaroth?

[polar spire]

No idea, ive been too busy playing Once Human and havent been back up there yet to check it

[haughty canopy]

lvl 40 area

[polar spire]

But i would imagine yes, always farmed the uhhhh imperial city one for judgement gloves

[turbid dome]

Yee

I do wish there was a more generic lighting staff unique

[haughty canopy]

rip just pop a plaguebearer and claw

[polar spire]

Also i love the nemesis change they made for interacting with it, does that mean on a new character if i complete campaign and mono's without touching it, i can go spam the very first zone for nemesis?

And if its the case of drops being based on level of zone, then that means i can crank out a build before hand and then go up in levels from the start, target farming uniques off nemesis

[turbid dome]

I thought the change was to prevent doing that for farming them

[polar spire]

Yea, but if you never touch them in a run, and then go back to the lowest level, you never have that issue

Their fix, just made it easier for new characters that realize this

can prob target farm exalts with it too, if you know the base level of the gear

[turbid dome]

On one hand yay, on the other hand I haven’t found any of them to be really hard to kill yet

I guess you can crunch through them instantly if your like level 60 in an area level of 5

But is that fun?

[rigid rain]

Is the little damage number on a skill an accurate measure of how much damage you actually do? Im a noob and having a hard time deciding between 2 items and don't know which would do more damage with warpath. One has a massive boost in implicit melee dmg and some %void, the other has less implicit but much higher +void damage and crit chance

[turbid dome]

Tooltip dps is good for a very rough guess, but I personally go and hit the training dummy’s at champions gate to see a more accurate dps

[rigid rain]

sounds good, thanks!

[turbid dome]

In general, if the tooltip dps goes up it should be better, especially in campaign. But I would still go and double check

[jade cedar]

if i go warpath+smite, do i forgo the warpath dmg and go all in on spell dmg?

[olive saffron]

Leaning into smite (and throw procs for more smite) seemed to work better. You’ll get some passive warpath damage from strength if you’re using the new sword getting spell damage off strength.

[jade cedar]

im trying void smite and go all in on vit but it seems inferior in every way to the paladin fire smite

if i use the new sword, does "global" base crit mean it also applies to the auto smite?

[olive saffron]

Yes. As long as you meet the conditional (while spinning).

[jade cedar]

nice, thanks

[sand wolf]

any way to make Multistrike's "additional" swords hit the main target? Maybe even just one of the "additional" swords? 😢

[sly valley]

no, additional swords never focus the main target

[bleak breach]

Holy 75% fire pen seems insane, didn't realize it could get that high

[quiet hearth]

with celestial doom staff, will it doom pulse three times if you use a spell with three tags?

[turbid dome]

No idea, does the gasper set cast two decimates if you use a spell that fire/ice ?

[quiet hearth]

no clue never used it, never looked at it until you threatened me with it for a meme build

[turbid dome]

[mighty cedar]

For things like 100% of void dmg converted to fire… does void res apply before the dmg calculation and conversion? Or it’s not needed?

[olive saffron]

Meme builds are the only builds worth playing

[sterile latch]

there's a weapon that gives damned 16% necrotic pen per stack of damned

[quiet hearth]

oh hey, I can use two gaspars with the staff XD

[mighty cedar]

Also when healing hands says “ally” does that count for me too?

[turbid dome]

I believe the answer is no

You are your own ally

[vestal mirage]

Any minion enjoyers care to share their forge build? I'm looking at ways I can improve mine

[sand wolf]

be careful tho, it seems (i tested it, but the damage numbers could be completely random so 🤷 ) the lines that don't state "global", so the last 2 ones only apply to Warpath's/Cyclone's dmg itself, not to the smite procs.

[mighty cedar]

So investing in void res would be useless then correct?

[quiet hearth]

unless it says otherwise, crit/multi is global

[turbid dome]

Yeah, ideally you want to convert stuff into physical damage so your armor mitigates it at full effectiveness

[mighty cedar]

Yes I understand but I’m cooking something

[turbid dome]

Also what are you using to convert all your incoming void dmg to fire

[jade cedar]

its okay, i only wanted the crit anyway

[unique zealot]

Hey folks. Does anyone know if this node in shield bash procs every shield rush if bash has a CD?

[mighty cedar]

Orians eye

[turbid dome]

Ah

[sterile latch]

Poison overload also grants 4% pen per stack unless they changed it. 4*999 is a lot of poison pen

[sand wolf]

i'd suggest lots of armor.

[olive saffron]

Minions dying too easily? Don’t spawn them!

[vestal mirage]

Interesting. I'm using multistrike instead of rive atm

[crystal sparrow]

any VKs here that have easily killed pinnacle boss have a build they can share?

[hardy bronze]

It's a very mechanic heavy fight so I don't think anyone can do it so easily as you think

[sterile latch]

This is what I currently have https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9xNObXA

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (59) / Paladin (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,626, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 217, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 29 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 109% / 113% / 77% / 85% / 80% / 93%
▸ EHP: 3,871 / 3,871 / 3,871 / 4,401 / 3,871 / 3,871 / 3,871

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 399
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,510)
▸ Block Chance: 16%, Mitigation: 26% (453)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical, Void / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Forge Strike (23)
• Manifest Armor (23)
• Warpath (21)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[tribal crane]

multiple on youtube

just search vk aberroth kill, should pop up

[turbid dome]

^

[hollow spindle]

Why Apathy's Maw with forge guard?

[hardy bronze]

Why peak of the mountain? Only MA gets it, not the weapons, right?

[hardy bronze]

It's a pretty good weapon and fairly easy to get with LP

[quiet hearth]

got dangit engi, now Im looking at memeing with gaspars 2p and that staff

[sterile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotoritoken-kounotori-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676340

[turbid dome]

[sterile latch]

I also need to shift some necro res to lightning

[quiet hearth]

I'd reasonably have to be mage, likely sorceror to make the most of it though

[simple raven]

wish me luck 😄

[turbid dome]

Sorc does get a lot of max mana support

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/blessed-bless-you-gif-21553250

[sterile latch]

good luck on the t7 health recovery with titan's heart relic!

[vestal mirage]

Interesting tyvm. I was hoping to avoid warpath as I don't really enjoy the spin2win playstyle. So I'm mainly looking at rive or multi atm.

[turbid dome]

May the weaver not be drunk

[vestal mirage]

I've been using multi

[sterile latch]

It's nice quality of life since u can spawn them out of combat and move while spawning them. Easier to netflix while running monos

[vestal mirage]

That is actually very valid.....hmm

[hardy bronze]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3PXW5EA me

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 88

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (66) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,814, Regen: 97.02/s
▸ Mana: 255, Regen: 11.01/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 3 Dex / 7 Int / 52 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 85% / 87% / 89% / 89% / 66% / 81%
▸ EHP: 4,637 / 4,637 / 4,637 / 8,313 / 5,681 / 4,237 / 4,637

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 411
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (139)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (6,804)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Manifest Armor (23)
• Warpath (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Forge Strike (27)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)

Used unique items:

• Apathy's Maw
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Death Rattle
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[vestal mirage]

How is the mana economy with warpath now with the channeling changes?

[hardy bronze]

I should look into void cleave tho

[sterile latch]

187 fire dmg is a lot

[vestal mirage]

Can warpath autocast healing hands too or do you have to do it manually

[hardy bronze]

Yeah it's more than 3*4 and 100% damage

[sterile latch]

only happens once per right click

[sterile latch]

I didn't do the math but I trust that

[vestal mirage]

Interesting

[hardy bronze]

Forged weapons have 500% damage effectiveness

So flat is much more valuable

[sterile latch]

They have 100%

But also a triple attack every few seconds

[vestal mirage]

Maybe warpath is more fun when you're perma spawning in minions

[hardy bronze]

This build is dope

[sterile latch]

I'm going off last epoch tools tho

[hardy bronze]

I trust the game more than lastepochtools

[vestal mirage]

I still have yet to see a single erased sentinel relic

[hardy bronze]

Maybe tunklab I would trust more

[sterile latch]

I think 500% is for forged strike?

[hardy bronze]

Hmmmmm

[sly valley]

isn't LETools information coming from devs directly ?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, 500% is for FS itself. The game very rarely ever tells you dmg eff of minion skills.

[steel moat]

what's the latest build for VK rive this cycle?

[vestal mirage]

Wish I was home to play around with my build rn

[alpine canopy]

Forged weapons effectively have 125% dmg eff since they have innate 25% more damage. It doesn't really make much difference though, flat is extremely important on them more because their base damage is 2.

[sly valley]

isn't flat damage from weapon enough as base ?

like 100+ form 2h weapons

[vestal mirage]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWz6J3PA
I only just started this fg yesterday, but this is what I've got so far. Mostly cooked myself but looked at a few guides to get the gist

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 81

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (58) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,645, Regen: 63.86/s
▸ Mana: 202, Regen: 11.22/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 0 Dex / 9 Int / 49 Att / 36 Vit
▸ Resistances: 195% / 164% / 90% / 61% / 64% / 108% / 156%
▸ EHP: 3,264 / 3,264 / 3,264 / 3,351 / 2,942 / 3,264 / 3,264

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 329
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,706)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 50%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Multistrike (21)
• Shield Rush (20)
• Forge Strike (25)
• Manifest Armor (22)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Apathy's Maw
• Phantom Grip
• Death Rattle

[alpine canopy]

You always want more, whether it's better than any other competing stat always depends on the rest of your build though.

[vestal mirage]

I love shield rush which is why I'm using it

[simple raven]

bah, got abberoth to 50%, but he keeps moving around meaning i cant hit him so i lose my selfhealing and 25% DR from vengance too much

[waxen nymph]

Not really, Dammit scraps data from the game files

[sly valley]

oh okay !

[simple raven]

keep getting ring prophecy in my armor constellation -_-