🔱┃sentinel

[turbid dome]

fair

[obtuse perch]

I am speed.

[sterile latch]

perma haste too?

[obtuse perch]

No

[crystal bramble]

come at me

[obtuse perch]

Cool. I still think I'm pretty fast tho.

[crystal bramble]

Zoom club

[sterile latch]

I gotta craft perma haste boots and haste has extra effect

[brittle grove]

you mean something like this?

[sterile latch]

no there's a glyph of insight experimental affix that gies haste on traversal skill @brittle grove makes speedfarming much more speedy

[turbid dome]

but why this base game

[brittle grove]

wtff

[simple raven]

its for slamming, thats why 😄

[turbid dome]

true

empowered lagon time

[thorn geyser]

at what point does it make sense to transition from the paladin leveling guide to the bleed hammerdin build?

im 54 right now and just completed the full campaing

[unborn cypress]

Do you all prefer Rive or Multistrike for generating Forged Weapons? I'm testing out Rive now and it doesnt seem efficient as it requires the enemy to die for a chance at forged weapon, while muktistrike seems to be able to create them more on demand. Thoughts?

[wise rune]

Probably once you get the idols for it

[thorn geyser]

Ok thanks

[sterile latch]

God I hate how some of the worms and stuff aren't on the maps so the forged weapons don't always hit them

[blazing river]

at least on my stat sheet my spell crit doublers when im on warpath, so it looks like it works lol

[cursive compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYkmAE7J2k&ab_channel=IvaMarkova

[simple raven]

i would presonally use multistrike since u can consistently summon them with it + proc forge strike if u use it

[sterile latch]

costs mana to proc it tho. I just cast forge strike

[simple raven]

this looks cool. for a shield slam build i'd guess

[brittle grove]

cast on crit warpath paladin still a thing? both from the same nemesis

[turbid dome]

probably

[brazen basin]

is there a mana soft cap for running ES/VC with void well?

[waxen nymph]

I think you need 400 Mana for 1 Echoe, 700 for 2, 1000 for 3

[mighty cedar]

How do I make it show the Tier of an affix? hotkey or setting?

[solid forge]

Alt+ctrl

[mighty cedar]

tyvm

[waxen nymph]

You can also tick the option

[mighty cedar]

ty

[bleak breach]

javelin and smite are basically useless to me in this build, the cast time on javelin to too dangerous and the smite heal isnt effective enough to warrant it. any suggestions on what to replace these two skills with in this build? basically focused on just spin to win
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olY0e9OA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (74)

General:

▸ Health: 1,922, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 150, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 140% / 120% / 157% / 82% / 78% / 74% / 142%
▸ EHP: 3,127 / 3,127 / 3,127 / 3,393 / 3,127 / 3,087 / 3,127

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 384
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (753)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 26%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Smite (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish

[simple raven]

is there a mechanic that makes it faster to stack corruption on other monos apart from the needles?`as in if i get 300 corruption on one timeline, will it be faster to stack on the others, or same?

[obtuse perch]

There is a catchup mechanic that makes timelines gain corruption faster if they are far below the one with the highest corruption.

[simple raven]

great, thanks! stacking to 300 first then in one, then moving on 😄

[bleak breach]

how good is this tree on anomaly?

[mighty cedar]

Is the dodge roll an iframe?

[bleak breach]

no

[ruby igloo]

tested out event horizon. dam useless item

[bleak breach]

is rebuke any good?

[sterile latch]

Have to switch to mg now to use this 🤔

Or I wait a bit more

[orchid juniper]

am I an idiot, can you not proc sigils-on-kill if it's not on your bar

[waxen nymph]

You cannot

[orchid juniper]

I guess farewell unspecialized rebuke on the bar, you saved me many times

[bleak breach]

thoughts on the rebuke tree? only worry is that it'll break up the spin to win too much but it seems fun to pair with the anomaly as mentioned earlier tree when exiting rebuke

[turbid dome]

The brave the elements node basically makes you immune to Lagon (or if that’s not the name, the one that makes you take less ele dmg while channeling)

[bleak breach]

yeah that's the one, i just wasnt a fan of it only applying to elemental meaning it's pointless for over half of attacks

[turbid dome]

On one hand yeah, on the other hand there is a good number of ele dmg bosses

[bleak breach]

that's true

[turbid dome]

It’s preference tbh, you can swap to it if your grinding Lagon for something

[bleak breach]

yeah i was surprised at just how quick u get to lvl 20 on a respecced skill

i'm excited to try the anomaly one, didnt realize u could make the time bubble follow you

does the "on exit" buff apply to when the time bubble expires?

[turbid dome]

What is happening? It looks like your just taking damage and you have enough sustain to full heal

Ok why are you asking for help? The node hurts you. I’m confused

[sterile latch]

There's no real punishment for dying to lagon other than time. I intend to have a stash tab just for julra tho. Keys aren't free after all and having to fight thru a dungeon 😤didn't they say they'd make it shorter?

[turbid dome]

Less about the punishment and more how it’s annoying to get him low then get exploded and then you need to refight him

[ebon patrol]

thats why minion forgemaster is the obvious answer

[turbid dome]

But I like the me, myself and I strat

[ebon patrol]

as a true smith the weapons are extensions of your body

the manifest armor is, uh. moral support

[mighty cedar]

sigh almost perfect

[sand wolf]

Im at a dummy testing multistrike rn, it seems that increased max (or current) stacks of Armament doesnt translate to additional swords, still limited to 2 additional swords... can someone confirm or deny? I might be hallucinating

[turbid dome]

Increased max armament should give more swords

[sand wolf]

it should, right? but seems like it doesnt

[turbid dome]

Does hallowed arsenal make the additional swords be smites? (I’ve never used it)

[proud horizon]

can anyone teach me how a paladin survive?

[turbid dome]

What level are you?

[proud horizon]

100 and 500 corruption

[turbid dome]

Look for extra sources of damage reduction

[proud horizon]

they kill me like a bug

[sand wolf]

i'd try and get "x damage taken as physical" and invest into some armor but you probably already done that

[turbid dome]

Like this thing

[bleak breach]

i just had this sitting in my stash XD

[turbid dome]

Nice idol

[bleak breach]

gave me over 100hp from that alone haha

[sand wolf]

i tried with and without, even non-smite additional sword attack effect / animation still looks like just 2 swords at 4 stacks

[proud horizon]

i tried with more than 6k armor and cap res, still die

[charred stag]

I don't think I've seen a single % increased health idol yet

[turbid dome]

But are you getting 4 extra attacks

Idk if it visually adds more swords

[bleak breach]

i wish you the best of luck on your next adventures

[sterile latch]

Check your filter lol it's not too rare @charred stag

[turbid dome]

How much health do you have? 600 corruption may just be the cap for your build

Sanity check do you have 100 crit avoidance/less dmg from crits

[proud horizon]

i have 1400 hp, about 5-6k wand

[sand wolf]

how would i check eeh
Anyway i'm trying to use multistrike for smite. it doesnt add more than 2 smites it seems... im sad

[proud horizon]

but i still get one hit with many monster

[turbid dome]

You want to use one of the unique swords for smiting with multi strike

[cosmic ivy]

birb is the hardest boss in the game. most rng content in the game

[turbid dome]

What’s your way to deal with crits

[cosmic ivy]

you stun it and it does the uber attack of casting all the phases at once with incorrect paths

[proud horizon]

i have fiery boot

[bleak breach]

jesus, i took like 50 dmg from a fire dragon boss's circular nuke with that node maxed, i think i'll keep that node haha

[turbid dome]

I guess focus on getting more hp or ward?

[turbid dome]

It do feel nice

[sand wolf]

im dumb, its not supposed to add more swords at above 2 stacks withot Bladestorm

(Edit) - mvm even this doesnt add more swords/smites. RIP

[waxen nymph]

Do you mind sharing a planner of your build ? Maybe we can see smth

[ebon patrol]

warpath just feels so much better as a weapon generator tbh

[proud horizon]

i have 225 wand retention, but wand still about 5-6k

[turbid dome]

Do you have frostbite shackles set up for it?

The ward changes were meant to weaken pure ward stacking

[proud horizon]

i have that shackles then my wand retention can go 225

[cosmic ivy]

I hate ward builds with passion

[proud horizon]

but without shackles, my wand still on 5-6k with 100 wandretion

[turbid dome]

How much cold res do you have? They did nerf shackles

[proud horizon]

288 for now

[turbid dome]

Ward builds are still good, their just more inline with hp builds now

[cosmic ivy]

the fact that you can get tankier on a caster than building HP on melee class is a thing

[sterile latch]

Fg and sentinel in general should be an endurance class now right? Maybe with some ward bust mostly life focused?

[proud horizon]

i playing smite build

[turbid dome]

If you have that much ward it is a ward build

[proud horizon]

i can kill mod but i can't survive

[turbid dome]

That’s the downside of ward, it’s a lot harder to regen it if you don’t have stuff like mana spent gained as ward

But you have waaaaay more hp

[proud horizon]

i stack in 500 corruption and i come here ask for other way to survive with paladin

[cosmic ivy]

yeah and boss behaviors are one huge hit anyways

as long as ur not 1 shot everything is easy

[turbid dome]

I if your doing low life ward, get more life

[proud horizon]

my wand come from healing hand

[cosmic ivy]

there are also certain enemies that do way too much dmg like the meteor bois

[proud horizon]

it cast when i using smite

[turbid dome]

Wait your getting 5-6k ward with just healing hands even after the ward changes

[cosmic ivy]

also isnt crit avoidance a dead stat

3 pieces of the crit bonus dmg reduction and you have 100%

and you dont have to rely on rng

[turbid dome]

Some classes have easier access to avoidance, others crit dmg reduction

If your doing avoidance just get 100% ez

[cosmic ivy]

avoidance caps at 90%

[sterile latch]

No it doesn't?

[turbid dome]

If it caps at 90% why does woven flesh give 100%

It doesn’t cap at 90

[twilit valley]

500 corruption already ? You got all mono to 500 ? Wow

[cosmic ivy]

unless they changed it at some point

[turbid dome]

I don’t think it ever capped at 90

[sterile latch]

Good thing about reduced crit is you don't really need to cap it. 90% reduced is just fine

[cosmic ivy]

still you got a hybrid affix for armor and crit dmg reduction

[sterile latch]

"oh no 5% of the time you take 10% more hit dmg"

[turbid dome]

Chuckles behind my rebuke

[cosmic ivy]

i got 0% avoidance but too much crit dmg reduction

[turbid dome]

You don’t go for both, you go for one of them

[proud horizon]

i think it not high corruption, other mage can go 1k easy, look in youtube

[cosmic ivy]

0% dodge, 0% block

most average void knight

[twilit valley]

You are 500 in legacy ?

[proud horizon]

cycle sir

[cosmic ivy]

im 700 corruption rn

[twilit valley]

Is cycle the new or old one

[cosmic ivy]

gotta pray for good shade of orobyss

[turbid dome]

Cycle started last Tuesday

[cosmic ivy]

also how rare can the belt from orobyss be

[twilit valley]

Wait your 700 in new update ?

[cosmic ivy]

Yeah

i afk the harbingers but shade is rng

[turbid dome]

It’s arpg tradition to go hard for the first two weeks

[cosmic ivy]

gotta pray its not the black hole bs

[twilit valley]

Ok hear me out ? How you hey all mono to 700’? Don’t you have to kill all 9 harbingers and the mono keep going up after each kill

[cosmic ivy]

ive killed all of them

[twilit valley]

Like first one is 125, then 150 175 200..

[cosmic ivy]

you should push a singular one with needles so you get more corruption for the quests

have to perform a singular reset to get to 300

[twilit valley]

Ok

[cosmic ivy]

kill boss once with needle, find 12 corrupt reset and that gets you over 300 if ur highest is like 500

[twilit valley]

Oh I did it the long way , I got all my mono to 200 each

[cosmic ivy]

you only need 1 at high

im at 700 on the worst boss in the game

[mighty cedar]

that is a lot of armor

[turbid dome]

corpse dragon?

[cosmic ivy]

rahyeh, the buggy uber birb

[twilit valley]

Yeah I’ll push after I kill all harbingers . I’ll focus on 1 after I find some items to slam my lp4 weapons

[cosmic ivy]

the more hp it gets, the buggier it becomes because you stun it more

[turbid dome]

can't you pull him down to the starting area for it to avoid half the stuff

[cosmic ivy]

not a thing, the fight is so buggy if you stun it

[turbid dome]

last time i trust a random reddit comment

[cosmic ivy]

the behavior:

[turbid dome]

ah

[cosmic ivy]

the fight is so rng, its like 1 in 4 completion rate

the path of that attack is every time off and it can jump to the middle at the same time and instakill you with dive bomb

without any visuals

also funny enough. it doesnt even jump to the sky, it runs at you at extreme speeds

the behaviors are executed at once making it do some funky things

[bleak breach]

yeah even with good reaction time u cant dodge that, just have to anticipate and keep moving ig

[cosmic ivy]

or just accept defeat and retry till you get a run where its only stunnable phases for the entire fight

so like 1 in 3

[sterile latch]

This is weird. Tunklabs says I should've gotten experimental haste off my glyph of insight. Did glyph change?

[quiet hearth]

That's why Im staying away from those things until some time goes buy, new content and bosses are always overtuned glares at blightsteel nemesis

[cosmic ivy]

harbingers are joke

[lost python]

What is this damage bro

[cosmic ivy]

good or bad

i have not many dmg items

[lost python]

Good? If not ward shield they would be insta dead

[cosmic ivy]

its basically just void cleave abyssal mirror proc and VR

[vale ravine]

how much FP your item had before hte upgrade?

[cosmic ivy]

and erasing strike deals big dmg

[sterile latch]

@vale ravine around 20

[quiet hearth]

lol, not many dmg items, sure bud, that is obviously a fully specced VK set up. Still doesnt change that they are overtuned, you get scratched by those things and you die.

[sterile latch]

Ohhhhh thank you! I'm not used to glyph on insighting

[cosmic ivy]

belt and rings are the only dmg items for me

[vale ravine]

ye for boots that's also a parameter, like 20 is haste 21 is frenzy etc

[sterile latch]

Yeah it was 21

[quiet hearth]

xD so you dont have a weapon sure

[cosmic ivy]

believe it or not, world splitter is one of the weakest axes in terms of damage

[vale ravine]

nw i also needed to look it up, i only done gloves in the past

[sterile latch]

It's fine. I'll just swing faster for now. The other 2 affixes rolled to tier 5 luckily but I should've sealed something other than fire res

[cosmic ivy]

it jsut gives a lot of mana, area size and crit chance

[quiet hearth]

Im just not awake or I would have seen the bait, whatever floats your boat friend.

[cosmic ivy]

crits from apothys maw deals like 2+ times more

but you cant really get mana and crit chance with it so

[vale ravine]

well, on the tin yes, but
1: mana is damage tho, and i dont mean the crit multi, but if it lets you put one more point into guaranteed echo then it might make it the best option
2: with a 2 LP you kinda need to T7 crit chance on maw while you can T7 flat void damage to world splitter, so the difference becoems smaller

[cosmic ivy]

you cannot possibly run 2 echoes at once

world splitter still needs like melee crit chance

[vale ravine]

i cap with T5

[cosmic ivy]

yeah i have T5 on world splitter

but apothys maw just has base 120 void damage and 50% void pen

[vale ravine]

it doesnt have pen tho

pen is for doom only no?

[cosmic ivy]

nvm was thinking of the other passive

[dark field]

For minions... Thinking trying to slam Parry Chance and flat crit or something on it

[random python]

Whoa that name is hilarious.

[cosmic ivy]

ok its melee damage per stack of doom and its from the belt @vale ravine i fumbled so bad

[sterile latch]

24% parry would be sick!

[cosmic ivy]

or maybe i read it wrong one time like void pen per stack of doom

[sterile latch]

Wait no it rolls up to 22%

[vale ravine]

ye i mean it stacks it faster for sure :Di with splitter you need to rely on siphon to stack it

[cosmic ivy]

yeah i got 2 siphons with 15 str

to actually stack it up fast

[solid forge]

hmmm, Ignite is supposed to be unlimited stacks, but the UI stops at 999 :\

[cosmic ivy]

@vale ravine do you know if void pen is additive to void shred

[vale ravine]

yep

[cosmic ivy]

yeah so no point for void pen when you get that 10 stack of void shred with a use of void cleave

also you get to instant 50 armor shred stacks XD

[vale ravine]

it'as still a substantial multiplier and it's hard to get but ye having shred helps

[solid forge]

C'mon, how do I know my maximum ignite stacks now, this sucks 😦

[turbid dome]

yay I got 4 double stab echos in a row, this timeline is super stable now

[cosmic ivy]

all those stacks just for the boss to go ward phase

[solid forge]

I can have 1000 in less than 5s, not a big deal

[cosmic ivy]

i can push a boss from a ward phase to a ward phase in 1 hit

[quiet hearth]

It's almost like there is more than one way to play the game

[solid forge]

If you can hit it without dying xD

[cosmic ivy]

and heres the thing: echo

[solid forge]

You aren't going to teach me how to ES VK lmao

anyway, I hope it's just the UI stopping at 999 ignite stacks

[quiet hearth]

tml it does

[cosmic ivy]

does this even work 😭

[solid forge]

yes

I spin so fast now with Warpath I feel like I'm gonna fly outside the screen at any moment.

[cosmic ivy]

ok it seems to work but its def additive to something

[sterile latch]

I think all sources of increased go to the same place for the most part

[cosmic ivy]

the damage numbers are lower than before

used to crit this damn dummy for 5m+

[umbral hedge]

wtf

[ancient bridge]

yeah VK can get some fat crits

[dark field]

Do we think with Sword Catcher minions will be able to parry and give the buff?

[umbral hedge]

im kinda stuck on low dmg, playing that lay on hands machine gun, what is the "core dmg" that gets buffed up?

[cosmic ivy]

like i dont even build dmg

prob the highest source of damage

[umbral hedge]

beside def stuff, where is my dmg missing

i do like 2k krits on empowered monos

[solid forge]

Erasing Strike is a nuclear void weapon... it's built to hit very hard, but slowly. Divine Bolt on the other hand is bazillion small bolts going around

And if you think ES hits hard, check Judgement xD

[cosmic ivy]

if only

[small dirge]

anyone have a good shield throw build ?

[cosmic ivy]

brb gonna beat aberroth

[mighty cedar]

worth?

[cosmic ivy]

hate ward with passion

[simple raven]

looks awesome 😄

[turbid dome]

I wish there was a unique that used terror crown/apocalypse armor based

[urban phoenix]

What weapon are you guys using for your forged weapon builds?

[sterile latch]

so far bad merophage

[urban phoenix]

I felt like i had to move away from two handers because its so hard to stay alive without a shield

[turbid dome]

Are you running VR?

[urban phoenix]

VR?

[turbid dome]

Volatile Reversal

[urban phoenix]

Nah

[turbid dome]

Healing hands?

[solid forge]

Look up LETools or the Arena ladder

[cursive python]

I like how Erasing Strike lives up to its name. Sometimes the enemies just die without even a damage readout.

Just punted them out of existence

[urban phoenix]

Not sure what it would be worth dropping for either of those.

Sigils or Shields the only ones i could potentially drop, but are either of those gonna be better?

[cursive python]

I personally don't like how Sigils feels to use, but I can't say if it would be better for you or not

[urban phoenix]

I just insta cast them while spinning for the extra heal and block chance

[turbid dome]

I can't really say I haven't tried a FG this update, I do know that healing hands made my 2 hander VK a lot tankier

[urban phoenix]

I'm up to 300's now and functioning, just trying to see if i can push it further somehow.

[turbid dome]

healing hands with ward will probably be the way to get significantly tankier

or giga stack vitality like me to have a lot of life

[quiet hearth]

HH wont do much good because it wont trigger often for them, warpath only triggers the one time

[turbid dome]

I forgot about that

[urban phoenix]

Gotcha. I've got 100% block rn that keeps me alive for the most part, but once i ditch my shield it gets rough.

[turbid dome]

whats your block effectiveness?

[cursive python]

Maybe your build is missing something else in order for 2h to be worth since you have so much shield investment

[urban phoenix]

3800-4500 depending

[turbid dome]

alright time to kill lagon again

[quiet hearth]

You need some heal on block if you're at block cap

[ebon patrol]

void cleave is a huge damage increase

while also being a nice general movement skill to get you out of AoE etc

[quiet hearth]

it also requires a 2h wpon

[ebon patrol]

you can evade mechanics while also mega buffing. and yea I suppose but tbh, 2h feels like the way for minions. obsidian axe or Odachi just feel stronger than any of the 1h options ive seen

[urban phoenix]

Yeah could try and work that in.

Been messing around with Apogee and Arek's bones, and they feel similarish damage wise, I think you're right about the two handers though. I just need much more health on my gear probably.

[turbid dome]

2handed axe or sword, rip mace bros

[cursive python]

Possible to just get more leech/loh?

[ebon patrol]

I try to stack as much armor and hp on idols and gear as I can yea

warpath also gives you damage leech with a 2hand axe

though tbh I've mostly been finding pots as an actual viabler healing source thanks to the FG potion passives

[quiet hearth]

I always forget that, VC realyl should be changed to just 2h in general

[ebon patrol]

you can't cleave with a mace that's silly. what next you gonna block with an axe? absolute madness

[vernal scroll]

What would you suggest to progress into high corrupt, warpath or ES ?

[ebon patrol]

Last Epoch is a game centered on realism

[quiet hearth]

My dude, no it is not.

[cursive python]

Yeah, calling down glaciers and avalanches in the middle of desert dunes... such realism, very wow.

[ebon patrol]

where do you think oasis come from

primalist avalanche builds are integral to human society in desert regions

[cursive python]

With how many players have cast there over the years, that "oasis" would be its own ocean

[quiet hearth]

🪤

[urban phoenix]

Thanks for the help everyone.

[ebon patrol]

i'm being sarcastic if it's not clear

[turbid dome]

next your gonna tell me you can boil water to make a machine move

[cursive python]

It's cool

[urban phoenix]

Lots to think about.

[cursive python]

Nah, Engi. Let's not get crazy with impossible talk.

[ebon patrol]

let's not get into weird scifi BS please keep it grounded

like that one crazy idiot. "bro like there are these poisonus rocks that you can use to boil water, and make some sort of like, power plant"

[cursive python]

Also, I like that weird little pal icon on your pfp, Engi. Where's that from?

[ebon patrol]

absolutely unhinged

[quiet hearth]

I yearn for the day when VC fire convert converts the aura too, at least give me an item

[cursive python]

Yeah, for real. Plants don't make power. They eat sunlight.

[turbid dome]

discord is doing/did a thing in their store based on palworld, I love my depresso

[quiet hearth]

depresso sounds like a hard coffee flavor

[cursive python]

I'd order it

[ebon patrol]

depresso is the french favorite

the only thing to drink while smoking with your little hat

[turbid dome]

there is also a chillet one

[cursive python]

Drink my Depresso while reading out slam poetry to the baristas while they silently cringe at me. I dig it.

[ebon patrol]

that's how all the void knights spend their weekends

they need proper fuel for their edge

[cursive python]

I'm sensing a fellow VK in my presence...

[ebon patrol]

I've always stayed away from VK tbh because I didn't like the fact most good VK builds basically became casters

I don't play sentinel to be a caster

[turbid dome]

? melee vk isnt a caster

[cursive python]

I feel you there, but I think it's going for that arcane spellknight vibe... kind of like Shadow Knights in EverQuest

Or Black Guard (iirc) from D&D (the evil version of Paladin)

[unborn cypress]

Is it just me or does Forge Guardian feel more powerful now?

[cursive python]

I've seen more support for it than before, so probably

[vale ravine]

isnt it tho? 😄
anomaly + VR + echoes, that's 3 spells
cleave, es, that's 2 melee abilities
3>2, caster confirmed!

[unborn cypress]

I've got the Smelters build and love what they did to Fresh from the Forge node

[turbid dome]

by that logic paladin is even more of a caster, they got 4 spells

[unborn cypress]

Avatar of War also seems better

[quiet hearth]

smelters build?

[cursive python]

It's also just how VK operates. You use your melee abilities manually more, but you're constantly triggering spell effects.

[unborn cypress]

Not sure exactly what it's called. It uses the Sunforged Set

[quiet hearth]

I was about to say, what is this meta smelters wrath build

I still think that smelters wrath should just be reworked to do what the forge node is. Give me a good channeling ability where Im belching fire at people.

[unborn cypress]

I dont know which builds are better but this build sure seems to ha improved with this update so I'm happy.

[vagrant bone]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApVvpbeB what we think (ik its expensive items this is just like max gear wise but can be done without uniques and a reg 2h staff)

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (76) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,949, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 139, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 72 Vit
▸ Resistances: 120% / 85% / 122% / 90% / 92% / 122% / 121%
▸ EHP: 9,109 / 9,109 / 9,109 / 11,051 / 9,109 / 9,109 / 9,109

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 790
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,373)
▸ Block Chance: 7%, Mitigation: 18% (210)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (25)
• Smite (22)
• Volatile Reversal (22)
• Anomaly (22)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)

Used unique items:

• Vaion's Chariot
• Omnividence
• Titan Heart
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Singularity

[cursive python]

Kind just feels like "You rolled Sorc wrong, bro" tho

[quiet hearth]

....what?

[cursive python]

And Warlock has something similar already

At least, to what it sounds like you're suggesting

Wouldn't mind if it operated more like that fire pillars skill from Torchlight 2 tho

[quiet hearth]

that is such a cooked take Im not even gonna elaborate

[cursive python]

It's cool. Just saying we already have fire channeling abilities in multiple other places in the game. I can see why they wouldn't want to push FG that way.

[mighty cedar]

jesus this new mech is crazy

[cursive python]

Wouldn't mind seeing FG get some proper fire elemental pets to compliment the forge vibe of the other ones, but I don't expect that to happen either

[cursive python]

Does that negate the cost for you?

[mighty cedar]

yea

[cursive python]

Nice

[mighty cedar]

im not running smite though haha but still nice

[soft fossil]

Hello, maybe i've didn't understood something but why is my caracter not use Healing Hands when i took "Unbroken Prayer" the spell don't land and my caracter stay in stance and nothing appear

[sterile latch]

They get some. Like they made skeletons from bone harvester iirc but not others like casts on melee hit stuff I think.

[soft fossil]

Here is my talent tree

[turbid dome]

why is the game telling me this terror crown is experimental?

[vagrant bone]

ur tryting to add a experimental mod to a item that cant have one

[turbid dome]

I am an idiot I thought I was using the stability glyph

[cursive python]

Sorry to have to ask the obvious, but... You are holding the cast key, right? It becomes a channeled ability.

[soft fossil]

Yes i keep it pushed

[cursive python]

You experiencing lag or out of mana?

[soft fossil]

nope

it's like my caracter do the animation but nothing happen

[cursive python]

Do you have any equipment effects that might be interfering with it?

[soft fossil]

like ?

[cursive python]

Anything that would interfere with your ability to channel, stop healing effects, cause your character to move when you start channeling... idk

[soft fossil]

nope nothing, would you like a share screen ?

[cursive python]

Try restarting your client

Do you use any macros that spam buttons when you hold them?

[soft fossil]

i've tryed, like had thge same issue yesterday and when i don't take unbroken prayer it work

when i take this talent, i don't apply any heal and no passive heal

[cursive python]

Yeah, either you have something that interrupts your ability to channel, or that talent is bugged

[sullen jolt]

guys, shield bash FG or balista falconer - whats better to start as 1st char to farm for alts?

[soft fossil]

do you think the fact i have -11 mana cost and the spell cost 10 would make a bug ?

[cursive python]

I would make sure you don't have any macros, especially if you use custom keybinds

[quiet hearth]

you cannot cast abilities at negative mana generally

[cursive python]

Sounds plausible, but idk for sure

[soft fossil]

i don't have any maccro and tryed to use different button stil the same

[cursive python]

Can you increase the mana cost some and test?

[soft fossil]

y

nope still the same

[cursive python]

I don't know what it is. My gut tells me it's an input issue, but I could be very well wrong about that.

I'd submit a bug report, just in case.

[soft fossil]

it's look like my caracter is in stance to channel but mana isn't going down and the arm of my caracter seem trying to cast the 4 spell/s

i loose the mana for 1 spell only

[cursive python]

Try doing it near a target dummy?

Or just enemies, I guess

[soft fossil]

not working

[cursive python]

I'm not sure what else it could be, mate. Sorry.

[soft fossil]

i've tryed to put it on AZER still the same

[brave mountain]

i need finally a new weapon 😅

[bleak breach]

increased healing effectiveness does not apply to leech right?

[mighty cedar]

I have found a bug with ring of shields

I think

[soft fossil]

I found the bug : If you have Homeward and Unbroken Prayer the spell is completly bugged and don't work but if you don't take the Homeward it work fine

[quiet hearth]

correct

[mighty cedar]

if you have shields up when you zone into a new map... and then cast RoS again.... you wil have like 30 chields for a few seconds

(at least its happeend around like that a few times for me)

[unborn cypress]

Can someone explain the Bladestorm node on the Multistrike skill tree to me like I'm 5?

[quiet hearth]

It eats your mana to give you additional swords while refreshing the ones you already have

more stacks equals more swords and more mana eaten

[bleak breach]

this is a rly annoying bug

[unborn cypress]

Ok I just tried it. It sure consumes a ton of mana.

[quiet hearth]

what bug? you got stunned

it says on the tooltip that it takes 12 mana per sword stack so yeah

[bleak breach]

on warpath reactivation you deal no damage and you're stuck in place until you stop channeling

also warpath has stun immunity i thought

[quiet hearth]

nope

[bleak breach]

i rarely get stunned, weird

[quiet hearth]

are you using a controller?

[bleak breach]

nah kbm

[quiet hearth]

because I have that sometimes when it's trying to auto target and the game just derps

I wonder if you could actually sustain that MS node

[bleak breach]

its gotten me killed a few times, i'd be so livid if i died like that on hc. sure i could have done better at dodging the hit but like at least dont lock me in place after the stun is done

[quiet hearth]

stuns have a duration based on how hard you got bonked

[vale ravine]

i jsut get locked in place stationary not doing anything sometimes lol

[bleak breach]

he only did this much dmg tho

[quiet hearth]

yep, the bigger the stun the longer it will last, it's why having some stun avoid is good because it can lessen the time you spend drooling on yourself

[bleak breach]

wacsa, did you see the health idol i found in my stash earlier today lol

[vale ravine]

nope

[mighty cedar]

is this a bug? I can consistablty get 30 RoS when phasing

[bleak breach]

almost perfect

[vale ravine]

noice

[warm snow]

whats best prefix to fill here for forge weapon?

[vale ravine]

and you just stashed it kek

[quiet hearth]

I really hate that idol slots are generally best used as use a ton of small ones for life unless you need this one specific thing

[bleak breach]

the sentinel grand idol for warpath area is fun, prolly would be better as health technically though

[quiet hearth]

minion dmg, flat dmg, minion crit, FW inherit your dmg stats so it's hard to get a bad roll there

[vale ravine]

well it goes back to the same thing, if we actually had defenses we wouldnt need to squeeze out everything from HP scaling and would have more room for experimentation

[warm snow]

hm. i wonder if pen double dip then

[quiet hearth]

We do have defenses though, the issue I feel is that players think you should be able to face tank everything and not pay attention

[warm snow]

since it inherit 37% fire pen and also get 37% minion fire pen

[bleak breach]

:evasive: thinking is hard

[quiet hearth]

dont get me wrong I am dead head guilty myself, get enough sustain or def to just stand there and eventually it WILL die

[vale ravine]

bruh warlock can ahve 34% DR from tree and has a more armor multiplier as well

we dont have defenses 😄

[quiet hearth]

that...that is literally defense, you have to itemize for def in this game and you need a lot less than most people think you do if you pay attention.

[vale ravine]

ye and you can do the same itemization on every other class which also have like 2-3x our EHP baseline

it goes back to the same thing, more baseline defenses leaves room for moving stuff around

[quiet hearth]

FG also has less damage taken, sent has a -10% baseline cooked in, like we are not hurting for defenses

[vale ravine]

hard disagree

[quiet hearth]

...you cant disagree with a node that literally exists

[vale ravine]

i can disagree with your opinion that we are not hurting for more defenses, we do. and in fact devs also disagree, it was stated they are currently looking into how to bolster sentinel defenses more

and i mean numbers dont lie, EHP numbers across classes is a very objective metric

[sullen jolt]

guys, physical hammers nova paladin is okk for monos? for 1st spec to farm for alts?

not bleed, not smite - just pure nova physical?

[quiet hearth]

Numbers can absolutely lie because things have to be taken in context of a situation. there is a big difference between baseline and aspirational contents damage and the need to mitigate it. I think the issue with Sents defenses aren't how much it gets but how conditional they are.

[vale ravine]

our context is that we are -mostly- melee, and have half the EHP of pure ranged blaster classes so that's just makes the disparity even more glaring

[quiet hearth]

Ive never played nova hammer

That is an issue with melee vs caster, and a lot of that is because of how much ground targeted BS is in the game. Heck look how many things explode for damage and then leave a dot on the ground that shreds resist.

[vale ravine]

i mean yes, which is why the pure melee classes should have more tools baked in to their tree to deal with it, not less. that's kinda my point

[sullen jolt]

and shield bash? would be fine?

[bleak breach]

this is the type of defence i like to see 😉

[quiet hearth]

And my point is that the issue is with the design of the enemies or the conditions that melee defense is usually put in, not the amounts.

[vale ravine]

designers simply made a choice that sentinel is HP+armor and later on it was figured out that actually DR (and ward) is king. we just need a brushup

[quiet hearth]

I dont disagree there, but I still say all the ground targeted dots need to go

you have stuff that is there forever on some enemies and bosses and it's like....now what

[bleak breach]

like poison pools? those catch me off guard all the time

[vale ravine]

i think some are okay but ye it feels like im playing retail wow lol

[turbid dome]

rebuke gaming

[vale ravine]

i think evade helped tremendously tho

[turbid dome]

give sentinel some damage taken as physical on the passive tree, that would really help

[bleak breach]

the evade was nice early game but now it feels like a surefire way to get me killed, but thats cuz it breaks my leech chain and also kills my armor that i get during channeling

[vale ravine]

we badly need an endurance threshold from max HP in base tree as a starter imo

[quiet hearth]

Evade baseline movement needs to be a little faster and the distance a little longer if it's not gonna invuln. Most things you're well within the range of still

[turbid dome]

endurance would help too, its not really worth when we can only increase it by flat amounts

[quiet hearth]

Change endurance to affect the whole health bar by a lower percentage

Either that or reverse how Endurance and endurance threshold works.

[vale ravine]

if endurance is proposed to be the alternative of ward it needs to have some interaction with HP scaling outside of threshold. like the higher your max HP more of your endurance applies generally or someth8ing like that

[quiet hearth]

I think percentage endurance could be the activation threshold, and then endurance threshold could work like block effectiveness.

[unborn cypress]

Does the Osprixbane node 5 point bonus only work with a shield equipped?

[karmic herald]

My warpath VK is zooming

[turbid dome]

I like the current system for endurance, sentinel just needs some %of max health gained as endurance threshold

[quiet hearth]

II dont even know what that node is

[bleak breach]

why can i only find +1 to warpath affixes, gimme at least a +2, i have yet to see one lol

[vale ravine]

i would say we prob need at least one more conditional DR node as well ala warlock, something like "less damage taken from enemies with time rot" or something tying in to our base kit

[quiet hearth]

A threshold that gives less damage based on your armor

[vale ravine]

or you know what, endurance threshold from armor scaling, that would be unique and feels linline with our core philosophy

[turbid dome]

a rebuke node that makes it a toggleable buff, drains your mana and makes you move slower but you get like a constant 25% as effective rebuke? call it defensive march or something?

[quiet hearth]

Maybe a 1pt node that gives conditional DR based on what weapon you are wielding, so 2h and DW get more flat DR, and like, your shields block effectiveness is added to your endurance threshold

[vale ravine]

ye i dont think we are unfixalbe, just give us 2 more threshold nodes and we good

[turbid dome]

make heavily armored dr be 5% to everything, doubled if their close would be nice too

[bleak breach]

better given my armor situation or not worth it?

[quiet hearth]

X% of your armor is converted into less dmg taken

[turbid dome]

holy crap that helmet gives so much armor, craft some vitality on that and put it on

[bleak breach]

actually more than doubles my current armor lmao

[vale ravine]

leonine is goated, i see leonine i hit like

[turbid dome]

plus you no longer take bonus damage from crits with it alone

[vale ravine]

im crit capping from that one slot as well lol

[bleak breach]

does that mean crit avoid is pointless?

[quiet hearth]

Just use blind, no need to build

[turbid dome]

see I tried the blind strat for it but then a ranged enemy kills me from distance

[mighty cedar]

bug? what suffix is 760?

[quiet hearth]

just kill faster 4head

[vale ravine]

ye im a big fan of reduced crit damage taken on sentinel (and yes you dont need rit avoid on top of it)

[bleak breach]

what should i put in that open prefix slot?

[quiet hearth]

well that is a bug you should report

[mighty cedar]

ty i will

[vale ravine]

vit/str/sentinel specific skill levels if you need it

[turbid dome]

I'd put vitality in it and then chaos glyph the mana to see what you get, maybe strength since your armor is so low

[bleak breach]

it got replaced with attunement

do i roll it again with chaos and pray? it's t4 so it'd be my last chance at a new one in that slot

[turbid dome]

do you need the max mana/does a skill of yours scale with attunement?

[bleak breach]

only rebuke does for dmg but that's not even the point of rebuke, the mana ig is nice to have but i wouldnt say i need it

[turbid dome]

Then gamba and pray 🙏

[bleak breach]

it gave me dex lol

[vale ravine]

kek

[bleak breach]

final craft

[turbid dome]

[vale ravine]

better luck next time but for now this will be great for your survivabilty

long run you also want that armor suffix to be % health once you are deeper into diminishing returns range

[turbid dome]

Doubling your base armor is great 👍

[bleak breach]

i'm currently doing the age of winter mono for the increased armor blessing too

[quiet hearth]

I mean not a bad chest for a throwing build

[turbid dome]

Also empowered health regen blessing from Lagon is juice, I went from 60 hp/s to 180 ish hp/s

[bleak breach]

speaking of monos, wish me luck on the axe drop here we go...

[ruby igloo]

is here some unique that can remove movement speed benaltys ?

[turbid dome]

If you can get %more move speed (somehow) it would help

Is that a thing

[vale ravine]

T7 movement speed on a unique having both implicit and affix MS is... a must for me on all builds lol

[turbid dome]

Darkstrides 👍

[ruby igloo]

double t7 movement speed is legit here `?

[quiet hearth]

I barely get MS, it's not a stat I care about too much

[turbid dome]

If a unique boot already has a move speed stat you can slam another one on

[ruby igloo]

okei

[vale ravine]

well "double" in the sense that the unique itself can have MS on it and then you can slam another one

[bleak breach]

can you slam an affix that's already base on a unique? like slamming +x void melee dmg on the apathy's maw for example

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[quiet hearth]

this dude died because he was AFK up here I am sure of it

[vale ravine]

like

[turbid dome]

Yay darkstrides

[vale ravine]

ye if you are stacking flat void it doesnt get better than strides

if you arent then probably blood of the exile is fastest

[quiet hearth]

not the worst leveling item for dex

[bleak breach]

that's the dream right there

[turbid dome]

Gimmie that apathy’s maw with two T7 flat void damage affixes

[oblique sandal]

anyone else playing warpath keep getting desync ?

[vale ravine]

darkstride affix is 40+% ms even with a splitter once you get T7 flat void on it lol

[quiet hearth]

Also a thought, can we make sentinels other skills that recover stuff as good as lunge?

[vale ravine]

i mean Rive is not bad

[quiet hearth]

rive doesnt recover 40% of my missing life

[vagrant bone]

if ur using lunge to recover life i think theres a problem

[vale ravine]

it does it's just called leech 😄

[vagrant bone]

just leech with another skill that does actual dmg?

[potent remnant]

😮 for erasing build xd

[vale ravine]

hugeee gz

[quiet hearth]

lunge has almost no CD, there is zero wrong with taking that healing node, with the idols you recover half your life instantly, perfect for oh snap moments on a skill you use practically on everything

[vagrant bone]

personally dont use lunge its clunky for me lol

[charred stag]

wish the base armor on this was higher

[vagrant bone]

or its on my bar as a do monos quick

[quiet hearth]

It really teaches you bad habits, but I use it as an emergency button, not as my main source

[charred stag]

void cleave the superior lunge (no target required)

[vale ravine]

preach

[quiet hearth]

VC doesnt go far enough for me, and doesn't restore half my missing hp either. and it's not like you're gonna lack for a target.

[charred stag]

it can actually go even further than lunge technically with the double cast. even single cast goes pretty far IMO. I dropped lunge, never needed it to restore hp. so much leech already.

[vale ravine]

surely you meant triple cast

[quiet hearth]

lunge just feels better to me that VC does, and again, it's a movement skill that doubles as a panic button

[charred stag]

I can literally use it to phase through a boss to avoid a big damage ability + do great damage + leech. Can't do that with lunge

being able to phase through the boss is huge as a traverse skill

[quiet hearth]

uh,yes you can

[charred stag]

not running triple, although now that I think about it, might be worth dropping the 2 points in fraying strike and 4 in warped decay to get it

[quiet hearth]

at the end of the day it's a preference, not really a wrong choice

my only realy gripe is how the javalin on use node doesnt plant the flag if you converted jav to the flag

[sullen jolt]

bleed hammerdin OR shield bash? wahts easier / better for first char?

[bleak breach]

here's a better example of the thing i was talking abt earlier, dont mind my terrible reaction time haha, but see how i just get locked and warpath stops working?

[quiet hearth]

I think you might be lagging, because the stun stound went off after the animation started

but I'd report it just to be safe, because it could also be softlocking you when you use a movement skill, something that has been around for awhile now

[charred stag]

yeah that or its the outer swirling wind?

[waxen nymph]

Bleed Hammer

[bleak breach]

it's just a slow stacking dot, nothing fancy

[sullen jolt]

uniques are expennsive / difficult to get?

[waxen nymph]

Expensive I don't know never played MG

Hard to get no

[quiet hearth]

.....i jsut realized the jav thing has to have a spear. I work in insurance, I swear I can read

[vale ravine]

reading is for nerds

[quiet hearth]

now if only there was a spear base that had dot

[waxen nymph]

Like a Coiled Bident?

[quiet hearth]

that's poison sadly

[waxen nymph]

You said dot ^^

[bleak breach]

these all suck i think lol, what should i grab?

[vale ravine]

doesnt amtter cause you will go agane lol

[bleak breach]

that was a tough boss fight.... do i have to fight harbinger dude to get the blessing?

[vale ravine]

yarp, if you ahve it enabled

[bleak breach]

is there any benefit to killing the same one more than once? i'm confident i can kill herot consistently but that harbinger is toughhhh

[waxen nymph]

Being able to get his loot ^^

[bleak breach]

i suppose there's no penalty other than wasted time if i die

[quiet hearth]

I wish the VC sceptre was lower lvl

[mighty cedar]

I think I can reproduce this bug consistantly no w

[bleak breach]

first t7 class related ability i've found

[charred stag]

this was the only one I've found so far, just sitting in stash haha

[bleak breach]

love it when the shade bugs out to not do any character animations so i cant read when he does the instakill mechanic XD

[charred stag]

for darkstrides, is there a cap on this? I don't notice my MS change when I add an additional 78% melee void damage idol

[bleak breach]

added not increased

so +x% void dmg doesnt do anything, only +x void melee dmg does

[sullen jolt]

i dont get it - for bleed hammers - why maxroll says Ballista 6/6 and not zealot 5/5? zelot is 80% chance to deal double dmg while ballista is plus 18% damage?

[hallow totem]

guys does seraph blade proc with rive?

[charred stag]

ty

[vale ravine]

did a content creator post a world splitter build or wtf is going on, literally all LPs vanished overnight from the market

like there was 1+ page of LP2s and now there is zero

[sullen jolt]

hod do I spec hammers for bleed hammerdin?

[vale abyss]

If I'm going to play Throwing Shield and Ring of Shields together, would it make sense to take the node that can bounce on allies to increase DPS on bosses or is it a trap?\

[mighty cedar]

RoS is close to you so it would just bounce around you unless you are ontop of the boss

unelss you spec into RoS node that lets you place it somewhere

[vale abyss]

so is there anything with bouncing shield that can make it work on bosses?
seems like the dps wouldn't be as good if it's just 1 enemy like multistrike

[mighty cedar]

Manifest armor

[leaden totem]

so. anyone made a forge strike build? any good?

[mighty cedar]

and the node you mentioned earlier

[vale abyss]

ditch ring of shields and focus on manifest?

I like the idea tho

[mighty cedar]

just depends on wher you want your dmg coming from

[quiet hearth]

what even is going on here?

[mighty cedar]

i am making too many ring of shields spawn....

[quiet hearth]

take the fire damage aura nodes, profit

[vale abyss]

is the limit of 3 per 6 sec bugged lol

[quiet hearth]

something definitely is xD

[mighty cedar]

No this is from IDrect casting when you have RoS up, direct cast it as you get into a new zone

[vale abyss]

oh right, the bug whre it constantly uses the last skill when changing zone

[mighty cedar]

yea probably what is happeening

[vale abyss]

didn't think it had any effects

[quiet hearth]

well this just happened

[mighty cedar]

nice

[quiet hearth]

now if only sent had a melee lightning attack

which now that I think about it is really odd

[mighty cedar]

jav

[quiet hearth]

not a melee

[mighty cedar]

You are correct haha

[quiet hearth]

though in all fairness I could just put it on and use rive xD

[turbid dome]

With that much flat, rive is basically lightning

[quiet hearth]

oh yeah, and the really dumb base sentinel mace node

maybe get some HH action in there too

[mighty cedar]

yup RoS and Shield Bash still bugged......

[quiet hearth]

They just sitting there like "THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM!"

[mighty cedar]

if you spam the skill they do move but thjeyu dont go back to being around you ..... also, It does not appear to increase the width of shield bash..

[vernal scroll]

At which lvl can i start to build hammerdin ?

[mighty cedar]

as soon as you get hammer throw

[quiet hearth]

like lvl 3?

[vernal scroll]

and be efficient*

[quiet hearth]

like....lvl 3

[vernal scroll]

What's the lvl above lvl 2 ?

[quiet hearth]

or whenever you get it, it's super early and slaps from the moment you get it

[vernal scroll]

ty !

[outer hedge]

maybe a misunderstanding, but does multistrike proc forgestrike the skill itself?

[quiet hearth]

if you have the node for it yes

Does pious offering boost the dmg of consecrated ground?

[outer hedge]

then why use forgestrike as attack anyway?

[quiet hearth]

Because you can also use it as a main attack and some builds cant sustain the extra mana cost. It's a side grade.

[outer hedge]

no cooldown, no mana cost, etc

[quiet hearth]

It spends it's mana cost plus 10 when MS casts FS for you

[outer hedge]

oh

[still plinth]

Is there a minimum corruption for the Horns of Uhkeiros to drop? Because dear lord, i've ran 8 empowered reign of dragons and still not seen one.

[sweet hazel]

Noticed this myself, neither of the width nodes seem to affect either of the corresponding skills.

Unless it was purely a visual error, but still.
Are they intended to return to you or stay in a wall? There's no direct wording.

[indigo jewel]

forgeguard is only playable with forged strike rn, like throwin builds are still so ass

[sweet hazel]

Bleed Hammers and Novadin are still extremely good bosser / speed clearers respectively?

Shieldrush Ignite Forge Guard is also one of the top builds right now overall

like Forge Guard Novadin is literally one of the best speed farmers for corruption.

[mighty cedar]

if I re-spam the skill they move..... so that is something

[sweet hazel]

That's true. I just never read any part of the node that states the shields would return to you.

[indigo jewel]

if u play hammers just go void knight, like the dps high corrupt is laughable when u compare it with vk

[sweet hazel]

Yeah you're right. /s

[mighty cedar]

it does that with the shield rush so mauybe that is why I just assumed?

[sweet hazel]

I'm literallly blowing through 800 corruption with Forge Guard nova hammers, clearing echos in 30 seconds.

[bleak breach]

rebuke should not be able to tank this much 😄

[indigo jewel]

if u play fg just to grab Ring of shield.. just dont play fg bro

[sweet hazel]

Unspecc'd rebuke is a godsend

[mighty cedar]

was that to me? lol

[indigo jewel]

nop

[sweet hazel]

He's just raging in general for some odd reason even though Forge Guard has 3 top tier builds right now.

[mighty cedar]

which is insane

[sweet hazel]

Shield Bash, Shield Rush and Hammers with Forge Guard are absolutely S tier atm.

[mighty cedar]

shield throw still has a DPS issue though, unless yoiu run manifest with it

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, Shield Throw is still meh but Forge Guard is way better than it was last season.

[indigo jewel]

"Top 3 build" but ur screen says max top 10

[sweet hazel]

for speedfarming^

[twilit valley]

Wards Back !

[sweet hazel]

and there's still C and D tier beneath those, just can't fit it all on one screen 😂

[sweet hazel]

High corruption is... also two forge guard builds at the top wild

[bleak breach]

hey i'm doin echo warpath! glad to see it in A

[sweet hazel]

Yep, that's just for speedfarming though! There's a list for each type

[indigo jewel]

yeah so Not even considering bosses, it deranks from s to a in max corrupt

[sweet hazel]

Actually when it comes to bosses Shield Rush Ignite FG is S. That list is explicitly in 1,000+ corrupt, which Hammers can still do but requires a very min-max setup.

[indigo jewel]

yeah so unstable build, dont want to tryhard to succesfully clear a single echo

[mighty cedar]

how i need to see tha shield bash build ha!

[indigo jewel]

i mean with only 3 build alternating between S and A depending on the corruption, i dont consider this a good class

[sweet hazel]

You don't have to tryhard, you can still breeze through it. Try using a build guide next time to help you make a class.

[sweet hazel]

Literally every single class alternates between S/A/B unless you're Primalist, they're still weak but also have some strong builds.

Only outlier right now is Glacier sorc, it's broken and can do everything in the game at insane speeds with a lot of safety.

[indigo jewel]

dont need it, i'll try it again when u'll be able to play fg at it's full potential

[sweet hazel]

Weird way to say; "I don't know how to build characters so I'mma rage in discord"

[indigo jewel]

and yeah nah, falconer still always is S in any tier list

[vale ravine]

this discussion gave me brain rot

[sweet hazel]

same lol

[indigo jewel]

lmao

[sweet hazel]

Do you also complain about Rogue being too weak in Dark and Darker? 😂

[bleak breach]

finallyyyyyy 🥳

[sweet hazel]

Damn those are some solid rolls.

Good luck on the Nemesis turnout! Wishin for at least 2 LP.

[indigo jewel]

oh you're yappin huh, rogue is good when u know how to landmine, weird way to say u have attention defficit

[bleak breach]

🙏 all i can do is hope

[sullen jolt]

can someone please PM me with a good hammerdin bleed build?

[bleak breach]

my MS goes from 55 to 71 when i equip this axe lol

[outer hedge]

hmm can't find that node you are speaking of - infact it says I gotta hit forgestrike directly

[sweet hazel]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-hammerdin-guide

[quiet hearth]

40 mana my bad

[sullen jolt]

but why BALISTA and not ZEALOT? on hammer?

[sweet hazel]

If you mean Guardian's Zeal it's because the bleed build doesn't rely on critical strikes at all, it relies on stacking insane bleed amounts via multihit hammers.

Hammers become VERY expensive when specced in to both spiral and orbit, so Ballista's -6 mana cost plus -cost from rings help a ton.

without ballista + two -3/-4 rings, hammers would cost something like 18 mana a throw and become completely unviable

[outer hedge]

ohh it's over there, on opposite side..wtf lol but does it work with heated forge?

[vale ravine]

i noticed the -throwing cost rings are way cheaper than last league tho, but i guess that's because of the rogue nerfs

[heavy yarrow]

is there any trick for Voidknight to solve mana issues?

[sweet hazel]

That's interesting. I never use MG, so I have no clue what's fallen/risen.

[quiet hearth]

no clue, I imagine one effect would be chosen at random

[outer hedge]

ok

[vale ravine]

thank god im finally not poor lol

[oblique sandal]

has anyone made a pure void cleave build seems fun but uses tons of mana

[sweet hazel]

God those are some beautiful boots, still with 49FP too 🐃

[vale ravine]

they def are but i need to fix some high end world splitters so need all the gold i can get lol

[sweet hazel]

I need to make these in to some beauts

[vale ravine]

i mean you only need some MS and basically set lol

[sweet hazel]

That's what I just did but ran out of MS shards 😂

[lethal needle]

Really enjoying bash fg now that I'm getting closer to 100% block and rating above 6k. Feeling very immortal but still only at low corruption. Speed is a bit of an issue when running with multiple people but solo it's not too bad.

[hoary kraken]

Anyone know where the node that makes rive scale with void dmg is?

[winged wedge]

If its a node, you should be able to type void in the search bar and it should highlight

[vale ravine]

spoiler: there is no full void conversion

[bleak breach]

ripping the bandaid off huh

[hoary kraken]

Ill take a look thanks. whenever i put on void dmg, rive dps goes up and im so confused lol

[bleak breach]

if it's adding base void melee dmg then that is just adding straight damage to it, that portion of dmg would then also be affected by +x% void dmg

[vernal scroll]

Is hammerdin really good this patch or i'm a bit wasting my time on it ?

[hoary kraken]

Rive only does phys melee though? On the toolbar at least. I dont have the 2h node either for additional ele dmg to test

[bleak breach]

do you have this node and are using an axe?

[hoary kraken]

Nope i took that off

[bleak breach]

what other void node did u grab then?

[hoary kraken]

Thats what im trying to find out, maybe its a passive ill look through there

[bleak breach]

does your weapon have +x void melee dmg on it?

[hoary kraken]

Yep

[bleak breach]

there u go then, that's your void dmg source

[hoary kraken]

Wait, does it work like highest element becomes the element you inflict?

[bleak breach]

i'm not sure. if i had to guess tho i'd assume if you had phys and void dmg it'd scale the phys portion with phys modifiers and the void portion with void modifiers, sum the total and that'd be your dps

well not dps but resulting dmg if that makes sense

[hoary kraken]

🤯

Thats kinda cool i can make any element Rive then and just scale the element + melee mods

[bleak breach]

be careful though because as wacsa said, there's no way to swap/add the void dmg tag onto rive, the ability itself will be a physical ability

not saying it's necessarily a bad idea just something to be aware of

now that i feel pretty confident that my echo warpath vk is a good build "I" came up with mostly i'm toying with the idea of just doin the meta now, what are the main builds for sentinel that are meta or do i dare go to a dif class

[oblique sandal]

does anyone else here play warpath and have desnyc isues

[bleak breach]

wym

[golden arrow]

well, I made a hammerdin that I've played several times in d2 and 1-2 other Arpgs, was easy early, rough start of empowereds and now its wrecking faces with pretty Meh gear.... bazaar 7/10 corruption 200+ items are PRICEY lol have a feeling there's a couple of upgrades I could get but they'll cost around 500k a piece and still have to roll em

VK void cleave with Abyssal, Volatile Reversal and general passives was a super-stellar tank tho, mapping pretty quick and felt safe everywhere, everytime overall with Good dmg and tank-scaling

[oblique sandal]

i stop damaging monsters and basically frozen but I can still use chat etc

i have to logout then log back in only when using warpath

[bleak breach]

oh dang, i've had something similar but it just gets me killed doesnt make me relog

[golden arrow]

too high attackspeed on warpath = desync?

[bleak breach]

nah it's something to do with movement skills and stuns for me at least

[golden arrow]

hmmm. the one thing I know is since the 1.1.2 patch anytime I load up my VPN I'll Never connect but I haven't run warpath since early level

[oblique sandal]

idk it happens like 80% of the time its really annoying
https://streamable.com/hive9a

[bleak breach]

oh wow that's bad

[sterile latch]

sentinel needs more conversion probably

[quiet hearth]

A lot of sentinels skills need their conversion nodes updated. We also need a proper melee lighting node.

[oblique sandal]

yeah i had similar desync issue playing rampage druid

PoE has issues with movement skills as well but not this bad

[quiet hearth]

I LOVE rampage druid but good lord the desync and terrain clipping kills the vibe

[oblique sandal]

same and you can only go maul or rampage werebear soooo kinda defeats the point

[quiet hearth]

Werebear is so good, if only Swarmblades melee side was nearly as good and didnt force you to take SS

[golden arrow]

never buillt a swarmblade but the builds that I did see as examples (likely 9/10 item geared out) were just annihilating the screen quick with no real issue, like a DPSier aoe tank with faster movement

[quiet hearth]

Eh, there is a reason for that but this is the sent channel so Im not gonna go on a rant. I'd like to see Sent get a proper channeled ability too. I think reworking Smelters would be perfect for it really.

[sterile latch]

I'm an MG main again! Here's a little bit of the power of mg (wish it didn't roll int oh well)

[vernal scroll]

Is bleed hammerdin better than smite scaling hammerdin ?

[twilit valley]

New to dot dmg , does critical strike multiplier work with dot ?

[bleak breach]

no... that did not just happen right

[twilit valley]

Pretty sure you can try again for same items

[bleak breach]

they dropped tho

[twilit valley]

Think he still has them when you kill him next time

[bleak breach]

i hope

[waxen nymph]

Dot can't crit, so unless you have a specific pay off for stacking crit multi, no

[twilit valley]

Ok thanks

[bleak breach]

man my health just disappeared the second i hit that pool

[waxen nymph]

The items are gone, you died while they were on the ground

Sorry Pig 🐷😔

[quiet hearth]

They should make it so you have to interact with the corpse to get your items just for this sort of situation

[twilit valley]

Vlad , can you tell me what stats I should aim for a lp3 for dot dmg , fire build - sceptre

[bleak breach]

yeah they're gone, man i spent like 10-20 hours trying to get that apathy's maw

why does the nemesis guy have to have dot stuff, they know that's gonna happen to some players, i'm coping but still, kinda annoying

[waxen nymph]

What kind of dot? Ignite?

[twilit valley]

Yes ignite

[waxen nymph]

And what skill are you playing? Warpath?

[twilit valley]

I’m smite

[waxen nymph]

So maybe smth like
%Ele Dot
Cast Speed
Chance to Ignite on hit
Fire Pen

[twilit valley]

I have these 2 weapons , for a light and fire build . Wondering what dot stats to add to them

[twilit valley]

Ok

Does damage over time stat work or must be elemental damage over time

[waxen nymph]

Dot works but Ele Dot rolls higher

[twilit valley]

Ok Ty

[tribal basin]

Minion Ai is so garbo ....

[sweet hazel]

I vehemently hate the Rotsteel Nemesis.

I've lost many items to his stupid poison pool that, for some reason, lasts 15 seconds and does ludicrous amounts of damage.

but ya' know Poison damage being overtuned in ARPGs? Tale as old as time.

[bleak breach]

you might be my good luck charm, this dropped right as you replied to me

[waxen nymph]

Sweet roll too on the Melee Void

[bleak breach]

the last one was already good 😄 only 1lp but i cant complain with how lucky i just got there

[sweet hazel]

Hey I'm glad it got replaced! Lmao

[bleak breach]

haha, the game felt bad for me

now to find a t7 base crit 2h axe, should be easy right? right? 😔

[sweet hazel]

I actually do hope one day that they maybe rework the whole echo being shutdown when you die.

[sweet hazel]

I think I have one actually, lol. If memory serves with 13%

[bleak breach]

idc abt losing all echo rewards for completing it or all stability stuff, i just want dropped items to go to a postbox somewhere, but that's greedy of me

[summer shell]

Crazy that echos delete everything when you die and prophecies and nems are insanely antithetical to that

[sweet hazel]

Exactly, it would be fine to remove the rewards/stability, but don't just close the map deleting all items. It also deletes the items in group play if you die, but your friend is still in there.

[bleak breach]

lol

[sweet hazel]

I always play with 2-3 friends so we have a history of experience with that.

Map still open but oop items are deleted

[sweet hazel]

If we get a golden resonance I can give this to you. Perfect roll, too.

[obtuse forum]

Hi guys anyone have a good forge minion build? I saw a couple in yt but when i saw the planners it didnt have a lot of minion dmg. Or am i missing something about how forge weapon dmg scales?

[bleak breach]

sheesh, nice roll. i appreciate the offer but i'm a stubborn player who like to get stuff on their own XD

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, for sure. I was holding in to it because I could reforge it in to a god-tier warpath LP base.

[summer shell]

It's basically all in the weapon and gloves, fg has very poor minion support on the tree still

I think the best route is apathys maw for doom stacks and double grip rings

[bleak breach]

best of luck to ya, decent affixes too

[obtuse forum]

So a forge weapon fg it still needs to have dmg from his own? Like a hybrid build?

[summer shell]

It's definitely more viable on FG because of how the minions scale with you

But I think you still probably want minion damage rolls everywhere you can and just forgo your own damage

[obtuse forum]

Interesting thx a lot!

[summer shell]

I gave up at 275c with basically just apathys maw falcon fists and two rings, the minions are extremely frustrating and the ramp up is excruciating on bosses if you let them die or they kill themselves to aoe

It's definitely doable further though, leech on hit + crit scaling on gloves and a ton of minion hp

[obtuse forum]

Dang i heard ppl are reaching already 1000cr+ with other builds. So its definetly not strokg yet 😦

[astral lintel]

How is that possible peoples have t7 Dragonbone Axe with bleed/phys/dot day 1/2 when im farming one since the start with prophecies, blessings and emp monos 😭

[lethal needle]

Luck of the draw

[tribal basin]

why you use Apathys maw when everything on FG scales with Phys and FIre damage

[golden arrow]

so far im having NP with a very ghetto dragonbone axe with 3 T3's on it, idc I let all the streamers and donoed items do whatever they're doing they're not my character

[brittle grove]

Happens. I played about 100h last league to get a prismatic gaze to try frost claw. never saw one. 🤷

Some people get lucky and get stuff on day 1. Some never see uncommon items at all

[golden arrow]

and im not spending 10hrs of gold hoarding on 1 item that's just not how I play unless it's gonna be a big jump

[astral lintel]

Are you an AI?

[twilit valley]

Abberoths command any good ?

[golden arrow]

how so? main purchase I made in MG was my idols everything else was self found haven't even found any reasons to run with Crappy 1LB uniques when I'm mainly using rares or exalts for my gear, I'm not looking for PoE TOP of TOP of TOP of TOP everything ridiculousness, blessings all farmed out, doing 160s corruption and bossing hella quick

spending 1M on an item that gives me 5% more dps just feels Stupid

[crystal sparrow]

I have a fair amount of uniques banked from my sorc leveling. If I wanna level a void knight or paladin does either have a straight forward low requirement build that is wrecking Pinnacle boss?

[sterile latch]

yo u tell me how to get 750% dps

[astral lintel]

What are you talking about lmao

[lethal needle]

Anyone else been playing shield bash FG? Wanted to see how others are doing and maybe see what their builds are. Trying to see if there's anything interesting I've missed because I put mine together without following any guides, very likely I've missed some obvious stuff

[cerulean sorrel]

This node still bugged?

[polar juniper]

Has anyone played Shield Bash

Kind of got a question of what level to spec into it.

[frigid hatch]

Feels kinda hard to figure out what the good starter builds for pally are other than bleed hammer.

Looking for something where I can mostly just face tank everything

[inland quarry]

The smite buffs feel really good now

[icy jay]

i'm playing sb and i'm just lvling with it all the way

but as a lvling build at start (when you have some mana issues) i'd pair it with vengeance or another mana generatorù

then you can ditch it and go for something else

[polar juniper]

Ah. I just hit level 53. I have the 1h axe unique. Was thinking of swithicng around now

[wise rune]

this is pretty nice

I wish i was able to get the implicit higher before it ran out of forging potential but i'll take it

[glad pike]

Do you get these kind of items by pure chance only?

[wise rune]

it dropped as a t7 from nemesis with no sealed affix and the second prefix was pretty bad then I rerolled the prefix into strength, sealed it, and added t5 mana

[bleak loom]

thoughts on this tree for abberoth's command - Void cleave ravaging aura?

[lament star]

what are good forged weapon leveling uniques ?

[bleak loom]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVkmgK4Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (27) / Void Knight (58) / Forge Guard (23) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,779, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 123, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 58% / 65% / 60% / 68% / 89% / 69%
▸ EHP: 12,274 / 10,491 / 11,159 / 14,023 / 11,471 / 12,274 / 11,580

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 756
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,273)
▸ Block Chance: 56%, Mitigation: 55% (2,535)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (21)
• Anomaly (21)
• Volatile Reversal (23)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Hammer Throw (21)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[bleak loom]

exalted items can be rare -

[marsh warren]

where would I find void horrors?

I need it for a prophecy and I am not sure if they spawn in specific monoliths or just random and I hope i get lucky

[alpine canopy]

In any of the three void-themed monoliths, still random whether they'll show up though

[brazen cobalt]

Is HH rive paladin still good?

[wise rune]

its kinda mid now, definitely much better paladin builds out there

[tacit zealot]

Personally I would avoid taking any prophecies that had (kill a specific enemy type) too much rng involved

[tacit zealot]

I don't know about end game but I used it for leveling and it was ohko most bosses to their new ward stages but swapped at 65

[tacit zealot]

Bugged how? The skill feels the same from before the ward NERF to after for me but I'm like level 70 so got extreme amount of room for better gear

[cerulean sorrel]

my 1K healing effectiveness build is getting 30 ward per hit, when it should be 300

[tacit zealot]

Sis you take urgent healing node too?

Did*

But in general the ward itself has had a NERF but nothing was mentioned for healing hands

[cerulean sorrel]

yeah I had that node aswell, but synthesis suppsoe to scale purely off of healing effect

[tacit zealot]

Attunement also?

What build?

[cerulean sorrel]

it was a generic HH rive build from last league

[tacit zealot]

AHH idk about it in melee form

I did about 60 levels with hh/rive then changed to div bolts because I don't like melee

Not the best person to help them as there may be an interaction I'm unaware of

[winter copper]

so they still havent fixed it lmfao

[twilit valley]

Check you have missing health equiped

Or the node in healing hands

Homeward node

[lament star]

which is better bleed forged weapon or fire/ignite ?

[prisma ravine]

I'm currently playing with Echo Warpath Void Knight Guide, can I get some fun build recommendations for void khight?

[jade cedar]

whats the advantage of using shield rush vs void cleave as a traversal skill?

[hardy jasper]

different perks I suppose. and void cleave leans more towards void damage builds I guess. Especially with the abysal echoes specced into it

I love the distance traveled on void cleave though. plus if using a 2h no need to spec extra into it to be able to use

[polar spire]

Can i just say that while its heavily rng, the nemesis system and how lucrative the rewards are, feels sooooo good?

I got a 68 fp 2h axe, without using any hopes, ripped off all 4 affixes, and then bumped up all 4 of my choosing to 5, and still had fp left over

Nemesis system def getting nerfed after this cycle, but if they keep it, even at half its current value, it'd still be super duper lovely

[polar spire]

Fire, both can be made fire

And both excel at it very well too

For instance, you can make an entire build centered on abyssal echoes
as a healer
Initially i did one as a support before HH existed, and quickly found out that its actually absolutely disgusting and allows you to sit in every single boss mechanic in the game and face tank it all

Since abyssal echoes initial pulse does fire damage that also ignited and ALSO heals all allies in the area, theres another node that casts it 2 additional times for you, and you literally just get fat mana for more casts, cast speed, and VR. You just sit there and spam abyssal echoes till 0 mana then VR all your mana back and do it again

Its a build that allows you to straight up sit in a bosses face, take all of their hits to the face, and just spam abyssal echoes to heal yourself for 5000+ a second

And because its many pulses of abyssal echoes pulsing every 10th of a second, no enemies can weave in a fat nuke inbetween pulses, so its more like 500 healing every 10th of a second

Its 100% a bossing build though, or arena, cant farm with it

Its fantastic if you have friends that get up to a boss in mono and then invite you in to tank it

[wise rune]

MG is so broken with nemesis drops, so many people selling crazy exalted items, t6 + t7 on the same item, stuff with sealed exalted affixes, even double tier 7s

[polar spire]

Oh i can 100% believe it

I honestly have zero difficulty farming T7's even as CoF, but with the addition of MG, and my love for build theorycrafting on LETools, i can bring pretty much bring any of the builds i make to fruition in as little as 20 hours, compared to 50+ hours pre-launch when MG didnt exist

[cosmic ivy]

shade of orobyss at 700c is so hard wtf

[spark monolith]

Yeah, I could map last season easily with my warpath build. But shade at 900 is where I called it

But there was a guy that got to like 1050 or so before he called it

with ES

[twilit valley]

You can do it !

[cosmic ivy]

yeah had to find a different one, the homing black holes are pain

just killed the ice one first try

[polar spire]

Had a buddy copy my jaspers searing pride rive/hh build, and got up to nearly 2000 with it, but he was also MG, and could easily supply the build

I lucked out on finding a 3lp jaspers in CoF

And slammed it perfectly, he bought like 3 of em till he slammed it perfectly

[cosmic ivy]

this is a disaster

[spark monolith]

Jasper's is a pretty neat weapon. I'll try to build with it someday. I was trying to avoid healing hands last season with the ward mechanic.

[cosmic ivy]

hate ward with passion

[polar spire]

Jaspers rive works so well the way it does because of slamming T5-7 ele dot on the staff, which has a disgustingly high roll, and Rives Foe Cleaver doubling that super high roll, then because jaspers has a stacking melee fire and melee ignite chance that lasts 16s, and Laceration is a dot that scales off melee and dot damage, it super buffs the laceration on rive

So on bossing theres an inital loadup time to getting there, but like 5s in the boss just immediately eats sh*t

[spark monolith]

Yeah, I want to try the same but with that frostbite spear. Especially now that frostbite has higher dmg

[cosmic ivy]

ok but this uber bird is being the hardest boss in the game with the rng bug

[polar spire]

And thanks to rogues Falcon Fists gloves, we can easily pickup additional melee fire and attack speed for a staff build, and the gloves can get 4lp fairly easily

[polar spire]

Oh ive done that once before, its actually really strong. Though my mordita's had T7 armor shred slammed on it because i was running it on a spellblade with the runemaster talent that turns armor shred into frostbite chance for spells, and then having melee's autocast frost claws for me

Which btw, though sets are widely disliked, shattered lance sentinel, primalist, and mage are all still very lovely

Especially primalist, you can get up to 5000+ health regen on a shattered lance werebear now

[spark monolith]

I didn't know you could get regen that high

[polar spire]

Werebears can, they changed a couple talents and now werebears can get stupidly high health regen

Like it was already disgusting before, i could get 2500 health regen on em and now its literally doubled

[cosmic ivy]

oh my goodness, the tier of the loot from this guy 🤑

💀

[fair hollow]

I want old anvil stance back 😅

[sweet hazel]

Seeing set items and low tier uniques drop from pinnacle bosses is always sad

I kinda wish they'd do something with Sets already. They're completely useless, just remove them honestly

[unborn matrix]

im running a warpath build and most guides use void revesal I have not found that i need it what would be a useful alternative 🫣

[cosmic ivy]

bro enrage makes this guy so painful

[polar spire]

Like 90% of them yes

A few pieces of sets are strong on their own like the armor belt and vk amulet, and then some full sets are build defining like shattered lance, but yea most are complete trash

[sweet hazel]

I never use Reversal. It is a very powerful skill, but I personally don't like the playstyle it entails and prefer to use other buff abilities like Sigils.

[sweet hazel]

Shattered Lance, really? I can't even imagine that.

[unborn matrix]

@sweet hazel yea im dont like the play style either

[cosmic ivy]

Bro this guy is like impossbile with enrage modifier wtf

[polar spire]

Yes, shattered lance werebear can push 1000+ extremely easily, mainly just cause its werebear, but with the recent changes i can see it pushing well into 3000+

[cosmic ivy]

i think im hardstuck because of this, it casts the phases before the animation 😭

[sweet hazel]

Interesting. What makes it do that? The Werebear builds I've seen are usually rated very low for corruption pushing.

On paper the Lance items seem extremely underwhelming

[polar spire]

because people dont take the time to mess around and try new things
You'll see maybe 10-20 builds online that push extremely highly, and then you'll have like 50 more builds that push just as high if not higher that people (like me) just can't be a*sed to make a build guide for

I've looked at the way you have to make a build guide for letools and maxroll, im way too lazy for that

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, that's fair. Only Werebear ones I've seen are Aftershock and ... swipe? I don't remember the second one, and they were rated really badly for anything not single target.

[spark monolith]

Can you get chill on your gear or blessing?

[cosmic ivy]

the boss casts void beams before the previous one finishes

the phases are overlapping

[polar spire]

Aftershock is absolutely nuts if you play a beastmaster, because aftershock can scale off both melee and dot, shark bm's can get their melee % and dot % to both be 3000%+ and if we factor in the new event horizon, it massively jumps that number

[polar spire]

I enjoy slapping on as much cdr as i can and playing leap bear, with fury leap and upheaval + roots if you want. That and leap gets invuln during leap and you can get it down to like a 1s cd so you're just constantly invuln

That setup can also build shattered lance

[sweet hazel]

Hmm, interesting. I'll have to look in to that deeper then.

[cosmic ivy]

bro so close to beating this stupid boss

it just attacks way too fast

[sweet hazel]

Spear one with enrage is also a little silly. She can stunlock you with the flame lance thing lol

[cosmic ivy]

disaster

[sweet hazel]

Yeah I had like none at the time and was stuck on her at 400 corruption lol

[cosmic ivy]

i will prob quit the cycle before they fix this stupid bird behaviors as well

[sweet hazel]

Me still waiting for them to fix the monolith memory leak that's been present since apparently 3 years ago

Tired of having to restart the game after a couple hours of running monos because it starts pagefiling my drives.

[cosmic ivy]

he did not even attack to place down the void beams and boom boom me so fast 😭

[lament star]

omae wa mou shinderu

[green totem]

we are on a sinking ship, and instead of plugging the holes, we get a new set of chairs in the cafeteria

I come for the new content, and then leave in 1-2 weeks, cause of performance

the only reason I can stummach 2 weeks, is cuz I enjoy rolling new builds, if I was a corruption pusher, I would quit ~1 week

[jade cedar]

i didnt realize that nemesis also gives LP lol

turned my ring of anguish into 2lp

[wise rune]

😦

[jade cedar]

rip

[nimble mantle]

So i'm playing a VK, level 92 right now. Got some decent 'starter' end-game gear. But I really lack survivability. Any tips? I only have 2k HP and am very squishy. Deal enough damage for now I think.

[spark monolith]

Need to improve armor and life. Good bases on gear + titan's heart since you're a two-hander by the look of things

[nimble mantle]

Thanks 🙂

[tribal crane]

you doing 800 corruption with 2,8k hp.. surprised you dont get oneshot constantly

[cosmic ivy]

if only health was easy to build on VK