🔱┃sentinel

[cosmic ivy]

just gotta get those 0 LP ones from prophiency

it gives the highest chance for LP out of all the things in the game

[hollow spindle]

what's the max LP a nemesis can give an item?

[cosmic ivy]

ive seen it go from 0 to 2 and then 3

so probably 4

[obtuse perch]

If it already has LP it can actually increase the amount. I assume the amount and odds is roughly related to the chance of an item to drop with that LP amount.

[cosmic ivy]

you cant egg items with LP on it
and all the items starts with 0

[obtuse perch]

No, but it can have an item that already has LP, or it can already have added LP to it once.

[cosmic ivy]

the odds are greater than dropping

[obtuse perch]

I said related to, not same as.

Like with WW items, it can increase the amount of WW on it.

[cosmic ivy]

ive never seen LP on the first nemesis. only on 1st empower

[obtuse perch]

I wouldn't know the specifics.

Either way if an item that is in there already has LP it can be increased if you still have empowers left. That's what I'm saying. And this is what is true.

[cosmic ivy]

also the odds of getting rare affixes and t7 are so high from empower

[hollow spindle]

Speaking of prophecies, do these types of prophecies only give weavers will on weavers will-type uniques? (i.e. items like Titan's Heart could never be a reward from this prophecy, correct?)

[obtuse perch]

"Related to" doesn't mean "Same as".

[turbid dome]

I believe so

[obtuse perch]

But "Unique Armor" can be any out of boots/gloves/body/helmet, right?

[hollow spindle]

ya

[obtuse perch]

So it'll be one of the erased items that fits in that slot.

[turbid dome]

is anything stopping me from throwing the same Weavers item into nemisus until its eventually at 28 WW?

[obtuse perch]

Yes

[hollow spindle]

It can't have WW on it initially

[obtuse perch]

The fact that you can't put WW items in

[turbid dome]

damn

[obtuse perch]

You can find WW items in the lineup.

And if you then empower, the WW amount can go up

But you can't put one in yourself.

[orchid juniper]

somewhere I have a copy of the Slab with +200 block effectiveness, nemesis mods are hilarious

[obtuse perch]

How much health do people shoot for before going into empowered?

Like I'll be surprised if I'm able to reach like 1500 lol.

[primal heron]

If I want to use rune of ascendances to get the 1h axe that looks like a shield, does it matter what base I use runes on or does it only have to be a 1 handed axe?

[turbid dome]

I aim for 2.5k hp

[cosmic ivy]

i did first harbinger with 1k

[obtuse perch]

Using ascendance on a 1H axe can get you any unique 1H axe.

[orchid juniper]

depends a lot on gear power, last league I had a falconer comfortably doing emp monos on like 1300 hp

[cosmic ivy]

i mean i do 500 corrupt with 1.8k just fine

[obtuse perch]

That's bonkers.

[turbid dome]

eternal form is a fun passive

• vitality

[cosmic ivy]

and hold 1 button during boss

harbingers only gets to do some specific phases

[untold sky]

I should really read patch notes. harbringer of ash was a suprise to me xD

[obtuse perch]

Flat health that scales with vit?

[obtuse perch]

Flat health that scales with vit.

[turbid dome]

yeah 8 hp per vit is very nice

[charred stag]

wtf

[obtuse perch]

But like, void knight has a bit of an advantage there.

[turbid dome]

go go gadget this thing

[obtuse perch]

Because void knight is like the only mastery in the game that has an incentive to do vit stacking.

[turbid dome]

yeah

[orchid juniper]

yeah the vit scaling on spells is weird tbh

[turbid dome]

my erasing stike has like 140 spell damage from my vitality alone

[orchid juniper]

doesn't that only affect the rifts?

[turbid dome]

yeah, I slam a pack and the rifts chain across my screen

[orchid juniper]

so, like, you need to get kills with ES first to proc that

[cursive compass]

havent seen a single vk do aberroth bruh

[turbid dome]

the rifts doing damage are a side effect of all the other reasons I want vitality

[obtuse perch]

Also if you're vit stacking then at some point, poison and necrotic resist become non issues as well.

[turbid dome]

yeah hitting 75 vit is very nice, plus thats a ton of flat life (even without eternal form)

[obtuse perch]

And sentinel in general has easy access to elemental, phys and void resists.

[turbid dome]

my rive gets 1 void dmg per vitality, I get more void dmg per 3 vit, etc.

[obtuse perch]

Which means you have every resist covered.

So void knight doesn't need a whole lot of resists from gear. Just a little extra to cap out.

[orchid juniper]

actually, att stacking question, if a skill scales off two attributes, like hammer throw benefiting from both str and dex, are those scaling %s multiplicative or additive with each other

[obtuse perch]

Let me bring up an example

[turbid dome]

do the attrbutes give the same bonus?

[orchid juniper]

most skills that list two stats have different elements benefiting from each stat, like ES having str for the slam and vit for the rifts

but throwing attacks seem to all have the same 4% per str and dex, and I don't really now how that interacts

[obtuse perch]

Note how it says "increased" for both of them? That means they follow all the normal rules for increased damage.

[orchid juniper]

oh crud those just add to the general increased bucket?

[obtuse perch]

Yes, so they also get added to any other source of increased damage you have.

[turbid dome]

yeah but strength is still useful because it increases your armor

[orchid juniper]

that's a lot less handy than I thought I guess

[obtuse perch]

And dex also increases your armor if you're a forge guard.

[turbid dome]

true

[orchid juniper]

there's plenty of stack stacking benefits still, I just thought that was a seperate multiplier

[obtuse perch]

That is. Your flat dodge rating is converted to flat armor. Meaning every point of dex gives 4 flat armor.

[turbid dome]

I do love that void knight gets two more damage multipliers for just picking the mastery

[orchid juniper]

like I've got that node for heal on shield bash scaling with str

[obtuse perch]

Ok so the simple thing to understand about attribute stacking.

If you have like one or two extra effects, be it from a passive node or some unique, that scales with an attribute, it's worth stacking.

At that point you should also keep in mind the effect that attribute stacking has on all your skills.

Because you will get a pretty juicy increased modifier from it eventually.

[orchid juniper]

yeah but the opportunity cost of 4-5 affixes could easily cover that damage increase elsewhere

[obtuse perch]

Unless it's some kind of weird scaling like I know that one skill in Shaman that gives flat spell damage per attunement rather than increased damage lol

[orchid juniper]

esp since attribute mods are prefixes, same as %dam

[obtuse perch]

Well, I did say "when you have one or two extra effects".

For example, lets say you're a 2H forge guard.

Who has crit multi and phys/fire pen, both scaling with strength.

At that point, strength stacking outweighs an increased mod.

[turbid dome]

To be fair, even if nothing else on your character scales with vitality, it is still a defensive affix in a prefix slot. That does make it easy to squeeze some in to up your not die

[obtuse perch]

Add in a shield that gains block value based on strength.

Also the fact that strength gives increased armour.

[turbid dome]

Bastion of honor gaming

[obtuse perch]

Never forget that every attribute does something even in complete isolation.

Like strength giving armour or attunement giving mana regen.

[turbid dome]

attunement is flat mana, but ye

[obtuse perch]

Oh I thought it was regen. Also good though.

[turbid dome]

I wish it was regen, 2 mana per point is a little weak compared to the other stats imo

[obtuse perch]

Honestly I'd be attunement stacking even without the passive that gives me armor applies to DoT damage. Because minions gain damage and health from it.

[true night]

Gonna try and get time to check out the update, what is the "go to" Sentinel build?

[obtuse perch]

Uh

[true night]

I have played the HH bolt build (boring but i enjoyed that) lol

[obtuse perch]

I don't think there is one.

Like there's various directions you can go in that are pretty good.

[orchid juniper]

anyone know if that fg passive thornmail "30 damage taken by attackers when hit per point" can be used to scale the shield throw unique?

[obtuse perch]

But if you like HH bolt, why not try out a smite proc build? It's a similar vibe.

[orchid juniper]

Sigeons Reprisal says it adds one throwing damage per 10 thorns damage but the affix wording is a little different from the passive

[true night]

Noted. thanks

[orchid juniper]

I think it's the same stat though? and should thus work

[obtuse perch]

I think there's some shizzle you can do where your melee attacks cast smites. And also your melee attacks cast javelins which also cast smites.

[onyx sage]

Man is hammerdin really only A Tier according to maxroll? I just got my bleed stacks up to 999 capped on monolilth boss and insta 1 shot him at corruption 200

[turbid dome]

Man I wish time rot didn't cap at 12

[obtuse perch]

Maxroll is a group of human beings.

[onyx sage]

Took only about 5 seconds to ramp to 999

[obtuse perch]

Are there any weapons that have throwing damage implicits?

[onyx sage]

Its actually kinda nutty. Considering my bleed damage single stack is already 1.2k

So thats 1.2m per tick

[turbid dome]

any dagger with +crit chance will boost throwing attack crit chance

I guess technically a spear with javalin

[obtuse perch]

Javelin has a built in property that uses a part of melee damage from the spear right?

[turbid dome]

yeah

something like a solarum hammer would give the fire pen to a fire throwing attack

[obtuse perch]

Any kind of global damage increase would.

[turbid dome]

yeah

[obtuse perch]

But it does feel like throwing attacks are a little awkward in how to scale it. I mean I'm sure they all have their methods. But it's a little unusual.

Like even spells have wands/staves/sceptres.

[turbid dome]

you get +throwing damage on rings + gloves + relic + belt + amulet

in my mind its all the spots you could put something to throw

[obtuse perch]

I think there might be an amulet with throwing attack speed implicit.

[orchid juniper]

yeah it does melee/throwing attack speed both

maybe we can hope for a couple throwing-specific dagger bases in the future or something

[turbid dome]

give a hammer throwing base as well (you can't melee with it after using hammer throw cause you throw it)

[orchid juniper]

though surely there's a throwing axe unique to combine with all those axe throw passives?

[obtuse perch]

The main axe throwing unique is a 2H axe that improves Warpath.

Throws axes at set intervals while spinning.

[orchid juniper]

wasn't that a relic?

[obtuse perch]

I thought it was a weapon.

[orchid juniper]

Nah Vortex Pennant is in the relic slot

[obtuse perch]

Might be wrong.

Oh you're right that's what it was called.

Not sure what the +1 to throwing skills is for since axe throw isn't a speccable skill.

[orchid juniper]

hey, it makes the unique occasionally viable outside the narrow scope of it's specific build, I support it

I've run the Thorn Slinger belt on builds that don't benefit from it's main buffs, just for a +1 to physical skills, skill points are huge

[bright nest]

when you are playing forge guard minions and you get this >.>

[sterile latch]

This'll go great in checks notes lightning shield bash 🙄

[turbid dome]

[sterile latch]

Nothing works with it right?

Guess I can dual wield but without a shield..

[turbid dome]

if you had anything in your build that does lightning damage it would increase it

[sterile latch]

yes. Thank you XD

[turbid dome]

would be funny to have a shield in the main hand a sword in the offhand

any gear other than the new chestplate that gives easy access to damage reduction?

[sterile latch]

titan's heart

[turbid dome]

but muh hp regen

[oblique sandal]

are there any 1.1 builds for sentinel that weren't playable in 1.0?

[turbid dome]

forge guard (it wasn't unplayable before but its a lot better now)

[vale ravine]

Dunno if you consider ocaeron easy access but it gives DR now

[turbid dome]

fr?

[vale ravine]

Ye it's pretty goated

[oblique sandal]

meh this cycle is kinda lame nothing changed really

[cursive compass]

Nah VK requires high investment to survive man

This cycle is just sorc and shaman

And falconer

[vale ravine]

New oce is everything i want

[turbid dome]

bring back the MORE MORE

[summer shell]

More damage per stack of shock....uh what?

[turbid dome]

didn't its affix used to say MORE MORE damage per stack of shock

[summer shell]

Is it more damage taken per stack of shock on enemy or more damage dealt per stack you have out globally?

[turbid dome]

I think its on the enemy

[summer shell]

I can't believe they 'fixed' the wording and settled on that

[midnight pine]

does a catalyst count as a shield? i have a node that says i get + spell damage when using a shield.. so does catalyst count? or do i need an actual shield

also why cant i get a skeletal scepter to drop? do they not drop for sentinels?

[turbid dome]

catalysts are not shields

I don't think any drops are class specific, so just unlucky

[sweet igloo]

I have 4 points in bound weapon. Any reason why I may not be getting any forged weapons?

[turbid dome]

did you take the scrap metal node

[sweet igloo]

Damn yes lol. Thanks

[turbid dome]

[sweet igloo]

So do you think that node is worth?

[turbid dome]

scrap metal? yeah if you dont want forged weapons

[cursive compass]

Forge guard is truly tank god rn

[turbid dome]

as it should be

[spark monolith]

How are the varying specs doing in empowered? I know I saw a smite warpath at 600c

[bleak breach]

what's the level difference in difficulty for under-leveled players? like is it +x% more dmg per level over the player or something? also is there an xp cap for fighting over-leveled monsters, like would 5 levels over and 20 levels over be the same xp drop on kill i mean

[random python]

Yep, great changes all around. One Critique. We are still spending way too many hours fighting sub 200 corruption. Even with the needles, and envy glyph.

[turbid dome]

I don't think theres any bonus damage from fighting something at a higher level than you, they just have more stats than something at your level

[bleak breach]

oh okay, that makes sense i suppose

[turbid dome]

ok technically enemies do get more damage per area level because they get 1% resistance pen per area level (up to 75% pen)

[bleak breach]

that just subtracts from your resistance tho right

like if i had 100% res across the board and fought something 25 levels over me i'd still have 75% res

[turbid dome]

if your in a level 75-100 area and have capped resistances you effectivly have 0% resistances

[bleak breach]

ohhh i see

[turbid dome]

this is also why being at like 70% res isn't instant death like in POE

[bleak breach]

at lvl 75+ area they would just have a 5% more dmg buff effectively

do you know abt the xp calculations and how that all works?

[turbid dome]

the math? no, but I kill stuff and get xp

they did buff void fused armor's xp and drop loot this patch

[bleak breach]

void fused armor?

[turbid dome]

a very tanky void enemy

[bleak breach]

oh that guy is annoying during leveling

[turbid dome]

at least they drop more loot and xp now

[sweet hazel]

I'm glad for it. FG having meta builds is a godsend.

I was lured straight to it as I adore blacksmithing in real life. Went in to it on Release during my blind playthrough only to learn it was arguably the worst class at the time lol

[turbid dome]

oof

[quiet hearth]

FG was never bad, it was just never good, like it could do anything the game threw at you pretty much just, slowly and with no flare.

[turbid dome]

give smelters wrath a sick ass animation

[quiet hearth]

FS feels like what smelters should imo given the name

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, sadly that's the definition of bad in an ARPG - when something can't keep up with others in terms of speed and efficiency. It definitey wasn't unusable it just felt bad to use.

It's been fun seeing a total polarity shift this season. Forge Guard and Sorcerer at the top of the charts, now.

[quiet hearth]

That isn't though, bad is unable to do the content of the base game. Which it did just fine, it just didn't excel at anything for the longest. The power floor in this game is very solid, FG was just too heavy to get any higher

[turbid dome]

forging strike makes sense to me, you strike and forge some weapons on the fly

smelters wrath is when the blacksmith gets angry at a customer and obliterates them

[quiet hearth]

I say mame smelters wrath like a full channeled ability, like make it do what the Forge node does just at base. You just sit there breathing fire on people

[turbid dome]

[sweet hazel]

For me that's always a bad class, bad is like my D/C tiers.
A class unable to do base content is just a trash class, like a Vengeance paladin in Diablo 2, lol. F tiers.

[solid forge]

lol 950 ignite stacks, let's go for 1000, it's fun

[sweet hazel]

Shield Rush ignite?

[solid forge]

No, DW Warpath

[quiet hearth]

You literally just did two seperate things though, vengeance pally in d2 was bad, becuase it couldnt do base. FG was just average but it could do base. But everyone has their own opinion.

[sweet hazel]

Yeah, I didn't see it that way, but for sure on that. I thought FG was bad, alongside Sorcerer and Shaman at the time. I am glad this game seems to be rectifying the power discrepencies though and actively acknowledging/fixing the stuff that was really slow compared to the rest.

and then naturally reigning in stuff like Warlock / Falconer.

though that got replaced with Glacier and Shattering Strike Sorcs 😅

[turbid dome]

bleed falconer is still pretty dang strong

[quiet hearth]

They were in the same boat, and slow doesnt mean bad, again, the game evolved a lot since their release and quickly so it's only natural that the perceived power gap is bigger.

[sweet hazel]

It is, for sure. Just no longer OHKO every single boss 😂

[turbid dome]

[oblique sandal]

did I make a mistake creating a VK they seem useless

[solid forge]

Just need to build it right

[turbid dome]

import your build to LE tools and link it in here

[sweet hazel]

VK is very item dependant

but extremely strong when you have them. VK is infamous for being weak for levelling/early monos.

[quiet hearth]

That is not my experience at all with VK

[sweet hazel]

Could just be an overall build issue though.

[turbid dome]

VK is great early you just need to try to giga stack your weapons damage at every chance

its also a sentinel so defenses are not the best

[sweet hazel]

You'll run in to problems post-campaign if you are kind of mishmashed everywhere.

[oblique sandal]

damage is okay but its basically like playing earthquake on druid 😫

[turbid dome]

send pictures of your passive tree

[sweet hazel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8zbj0kB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (31) / Forge Guard (57) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,852, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 164, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 61 Str / 32 Dex / 11 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 132% / 129% / 86% / 73% / 90% / 27% / 100%
▸ EHP: 5,790 / 5,790 / 5,790 / 9,347 / 5,790 / 3,922 / 5,790

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 432
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (128)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,654)
▸ Block Chance: 53%, Mitigation: 35% (858)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (23)
• Lunge (21)
• Ring Of Shields (21)
• Rebuke (21)

Used unique items:

• Blood of the Exile
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[turbid dome]

thats not a void knight (but nice strength score)

[sweet hazel]

That's my current guy, fg novadin I'm lovin

[quiet hearth]

you will run into that with any class, that is not a VK issue. Also sent has a LOT of defense in their tree engi Im not sure what that is. VK has a hp and two of the bests resists right there, paly has main stat and ele, strangely enough FG is the weakest defense early game

[sweet hazel]

Yeah Sentinel has a lot of free health, vitality and resistances/block in their trees, very easy to spec.

[oblique sandal]

yeah i mean the playstyle for VK seems to just be erasing strike i shoulda watched a video first

[sweet hazel]

There's an anomaly playstyle, a warpath playstyle and a devouring orbs one.

[turbid dome]

and the cleave + ES style

[sweet hazel]

Should check out Maxroll or LETools to find some builds!

[oblique sandal]

LETools is just copy+paste builds tbh ill look at maxroll

[sweet hazel]

I also prefer Maxrolls build guide formats, so I agree.

[quiet hearth]

DW palarus and aurelis is burning my retinas

[sweet hazel]

LETools build guides are kind of a mess that don't really explain anything to new/casual players.

[sweet hazel]

you're dual wielding both?! Lmfao. That sounds like PoE style screen cancer.

[turbid dome]

yeah, I just like them for theory crafting and sharing ideas

[oblique sandal]

yeah LETools also links you to their youtube video instead of build planner its annoying when you forget that

[sweet hazel]

You can click the 'Build Planner' hyperlink underneath the class portrait.

[quiet hearth]

And Im using MS to proc smites, my screen is just yellow lol

[oblique sandal]

ik but its really tiny text and easy to forget

[sweet hazel]

I've been stashing items to build one myself. I have a 4LP Palarus and a 3LP Aurelis.

[quiet hearth]

I need a proper sceptre to ignite more oftne

[sweet hazel]

I've gone through four pairs of Li'Raka's claws trying to get Throwing Speed and/or Throwing Damage on them. 😢

[bleak breach]

yo wait is this ring good for warpath? i swapped it out to pop one of my siphon of anguishes into a harginger thingy to empower it but now i think i might wanna use this... it's basically perma haste if i'm hitting enemies

[turbid dome]

its good for leveling, but you can't make use of the crit part

you'll find better stuff later

[quiet hearth]

I wonder if I should switch to crit instead

[sweet hazel]

Agreed, I think that ring is meh for any non-Rogue class. I've seen some build guides that use it, I assume just for the 'Haste', but now that Orian's Sun Seal exists like why tf would you use anything else.

[turbid dome]

cause I dont run sigils of hope

[bleak breach]

yeah sad to see 3 completely wasted stats since i currently have titan heart meaning no health regen either

[sweet hazel]

I feel like the existence of Sun Seal pretty much means build SoH on every Sent class, personally.

You never have to manage them anymore, it's kind of busted.

[bleak breach]

what options are there for haste uptime on void warpath?

[quiet hearth]

Not really, sigils are nice but definitely not needed

[sweet hazel]

I'll take my 100% uptime of 100% more global damage and 75% more endurance threshold any day of the week.

[quiet hearth]

the dmg is increased not more

[sterile latch]

Wait what 75% endurance threshold?

[turbid dome]

I already got like 700% increased damage

[sweet hazel]

Ya, that's why I said 100%, not 100 flat. Still stands, though. 75 flat endurance, not %, my b on that

[quiet hearth]

and the end threshold is flat 75 per, not a 75% increase

You're confused on the wording, you have increased and then you have more, then you have flat

[turbid dome]

sigils of despair gaming (if I ever grab them)

[quiet hearth]

I always forget that sigils has a spellcasting node, maybe I should build around that

[sweet hazel]

Flat is more, you're just adding the damage to the base. Ie; +12 Throwing Damage on a Ring is adding 12 more throwing damage to your base, and then yeah %Increased is a percentage of the base number.

[quiet hearth]

that isnt how that works

[sweet hazel]

Still, though. Rolling a Sun Seal with a T7 throwing damage mod is crazy.

[turbid dome]

more is not flat

flat adds to your base damage, more is multiplicative after your base is increased by your increased damage

[quiet hearth]

Would HH proc off of divine flare hits?

aww lame it's smite only

[sweet hazel]

Right I forgo there's like two items that use the actual 'More' modification

PoE levels of redundant complexity randomly thrown in to the game lol

[quiet hearth]

No, games have used that for a very long time across pretty much anything that uses math. It's a math quirk not a game quirk.

[turbid dome]

thats like every ARPG

[quiet hearth]

to this sigil divine flare has like 300% dmg effectiveness tho

No wait, Imma do a VK and convert it to void xD

[bleak breach]

rip

[quiet hearth]

I need that for my All DOT build

[bleak breach]

i've fought 2 of the boss that drops this and it's dropped both times, either high drop chance or i'm lucky, and the latter is not true

[quiet hearth]

I feel that, that is why I am a dirty MG player

[turbid dome]

the ring is its most common drop, you also need increased corruption to get its other drops

[bleak breach]

i want the axe 🥺

[quiet hearth]

Im really planning a tree that is almost 90pts deep into paladin

[turbid dome]

dang

[bleak breach]

i just to CoF cuz i dont like trading XD

[quiet hearth]

here's a skill splanner you never thought you'd see

[turbid dome]

I love this tree

[quiet hearth]

I am legit curious how big the boom is

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

it's kinda small ngl

and the mana cost is uh, not cool

If you werent limited to 1 sigil on that arm it would actually be good I think

I found a meme build I couldnt do

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

well, WONT do is more like it, you'd have to stack mana regen out the wazu

[turbid dome]

I’m not gonna lie, I’m not dedicating half my affixes to getting 240% mana regen

[quiet hearth]

it would be so clunky, you have to resummon the sigil each time so it's two spell casts for one boom. If they changed it to have one replace the other with each cast it would be better.

also in theory the new ring could do it for you every like...15s xD

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

and for the low price of making it 20s duration, you could get...2 flat fire dmg per second xD

I'd have to actually get it leveled and such, I might tinker with it. the resummon node would be mandatory for that 40% chance it comes back for free

[turbid dome]

I wish I could golf swing the explosive sigils at enemies

[quiet hearth]

Sigils of shuriken

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

Also, with the new time and faith node, fissure smite could be a thing I think

[abstract tree]

new player, rive or warpath VK to start?

[bleak breach]

haha maybe i should refine the idol filter

[polar spire]

Done it, shield rush drive by's with instant cast sigils are where its at LMAO

[turbid dome]

nah grab every idol and put it in your stash

[quiet hearth]

how does that work? that gives it a 1s cd though

[polar spire]

And lets be honest here, besides the ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING MANA COST, sigil boom boom does DISGUSTING damage

[bleak breach]

even after the stash cost changes that'll quickly get too expensive

[quiet hearth]

coward

[bleak breach]

i like looking at my evergrowing gold amount that i'll never use

[polar spire]

I think the more fun one, will be spam shield rush except you dont spam it because any mana used during the rush gets refunded when you bounce back to start, so run the void cleave scepter and have void cleave cast abyssal echoes

[turbid dome]

whiplash build

[quiet hearth]

But that isnt focusing on the sigil, but also I could use reversal

[polar spire]

Full stacked event horizon for massive movement speed reduction and then healing hands traversal where you're invincible during it but it takes you 5 years to reach the destination

[quiet hearth]

just hold the button down with enough cast speed and zoom back to better days

[polar spire]

Event horizon full stack + shield rush + ring of shields, for a slow moving tsunami

[quiet hearth]

killdozer build

[polar spire]

I cant rememebr if it still works but you used to be able to change directions with rush if you VR'd while aiming a different direction

[bright nest]

Is detonating ground worh looking into for an alterantive to bleed forge?
Maehlin's Hubris turns bleed into ignite hmm

[polar spire]

I honest to god thing taking fs in any direction besides bleed is terrible

Fs gets 245% bleed pen, you cant convert that

[quiet hearth]

The detonating ground is great for stacking dots on bosses

I scaled both, it was nutty

[turbid dome]

when in doubt, erasing strike it out

[sullen hollow]

is it known that reflected damage doesnt make the ward trigger on bosses?

[turbid dome]

huh?

[sullen hollow]

i was playing retaliation minions on forge guard and half the time the ward didnt trigger

i was talking about it in global chat and people were telling me to go away xd

[turbid dome]

that sounds like a bug

[sullen hollow]

maybe, but reflect builds have it hard enough so i will not be reporting this one

[charred stag]

Last place you wanna talk in

[sullen hollow]

usually hc chat is alright, other than the please tp me to the bazaar every 5 mins

[turbid dome]

general chat on any big discord server is always a bad time

[carmine mantle]

is there a way to filter for the % health lost = ward gained keyword on the loot filter?

[twilit valley]

Need help , what 3 stats should I look for to slam for fire dot , im a caster

[charred stag]

yes, experimental affix

[bright nest]

time to become a void knight with smite I guess? lol

[jade cedar]

guys whats the highest echo chance we can get?

[turbid dome]

40%, 80% on rive (it gets doubled with a node) @jade cedar

[bleak breach]

warpath at 80% echo chance every second is fun, imagine the carnage if it was 80% per hit lol

[turbid dome]

I dont think warpath gets extra echo chance nevermind I cant read

[jade cedar]

thanks!

warpath does get doubled as well

[lime helm]

what void knight build is the best? (best in dps and fun)? im a newb void knight

[turbid dome]

its these 3 nodes to max your base echo chance

[quiet hearth]

that 10pt is a rough sell for me

[turbid dome]

I mean its also time rot and attack speed

[quiet hearth]

yeah, but still 10pts is a lot, I can see it on a melee build for sure

[lime helm]

what void knight build is the best? (best in dps and fun)? im a newb void knight. Im between going full warpath but erasing strike looks good tho

[charred stag]

If you wanna just follow meta then warpath

[turbid dome]

I love void cleave -> erasing strike

[quiet hearth]

hey now

[feral sparrow]

anyone remember if you need the shield-bearer node on manifest armor to get the dual wield stats or is the titan sword enough

[lime helm]

I mean I see why its meta yk, but does it get boring? just spinning?

[charred stag]

Yep spin to win that’s it

[bleak breach]

i'm thinking of respeccing the ravaging aura cuz i dont think it's doing much honestly, would it be more effective to get cooldown recov, armor shred, and damage? it's not really meant for damage but more to just move/approach a group quicker

[lime helm]

I've seen some builds but mana wise it's difficult ain't it?

[quiet hearth]

this build shoulda been a pally I think

[turbid dome]

nah I'm not raisings ES's mana cost at all, so its fairly easy to sustain. plus I bring time and faith with rive so I just get all my mana back inbetween cooldowns

[lime helm]

it sounds fun! rn my lvling build was a mix between warpath and erasing strike, to go up in corruption, do I need to choose one?

[turbid dome]

ES is just as solid skill, I pair it with void cleave cause you can make your next ES a crit and stack up time rot for ES's 100% more dmg vs 12 time rot

also cleave is my fav movement skill

[charred stag]

Did you switch to the movement node?

[turbid dome]

yeah, I didn't at first because I forgot I can just click near me with it to not go far

I dropped points from the void shred node to get it, gonna get those back with +void cleave on my relic eventually

[charred stag]

Gotcha. I was gonna try it but didn’t feel super necessary with lunge.

[turbid dome]

yeah but I dont got lunge anymore

granted I could still put it on my bar inplace of rebuke, but I like rebuke incase I get stuck in a bosses 1 shot attack

80% less damage taken

[lime helm]

yeah I think that's more fun going up in corruption rather than just spinning. I still wonder which build is best in dps

[turbid dome]

man I love rebuke and lunge, but VR is so much damage and HH is so much sustain

[bleak breach]

thoughts on this respec?

[charred stag]

I think you’ll find that you don’t need rebuke… I dropped it and haven’t looked back. After putting in HH and VR, I can more or less face tank anything now and just avoid the super obvious stuff

I do wanna try void cleave movement tho just to see how it feels

[turbid dome]

I agree with that, however I am stupid and will be at 20% hp and get hit by a bosses slam

It’s a skill issue on my part

[charred stag]

how do you even get that low?? We have so much leech

[turbid dome]

I stood in a different slam

[charred stag]

[turbid dome]

I paid for this whole damn health bar I’m gonna use it

I can’t wait to get an upgrade to my chest armor, it’s only giving about 700 hp rn

[quiet hearth]

I paid for this whole damn health bar is the greatest thing I have read in awhile

[turbid dome]

What’s the point of having 3k hp as you go into empowered if I’m not using it.

If I was gonna dodge I’d just have less hp and more damage

[quiet hearth]

man Ive only got liek 1.5k going in there

[bleak breach]

haha, isnt stun stuff tied to % of healthbar dealt?

[turbid dome]

This is a part of it

I need more exalted stuff

[quiet hearth]

Im about to attempt something goofy again

[turbid dome]

👀

[quiet hearth]

Its time to summon crab

[turbid dome]

🦀🦀🦀🦀

[quiet hearth]

sadly I will need to be a primalist I think to make it work

though I guess I could use forged weapons

[jade cedar]

attunement is bad but ill take it

[turbid dome]

Nice armor 👍

[bleak breach]

be a real chad and use a rune of removal oh nvm 0 fp

[quiet hearth]

Do NOT be a chad, that is amazing

[sterile latch]

only a chud gets it to 0fp without rune of removal

[quiet hearth]

sent gets a strangely small amount of minion support

[sterile latch]

yeah u looked at the item prefixes?

minion stuff is all primalist/acolyte. Rogue gets more 😭

[turbid dome]

I love slapping a t4 cold res into a t5 hp affix

[quiet hearth]

in all fairness FG gets this on the passive tree

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

maybe warpath would be the best way to do this, spawning forge minions without actually doing anything

no no, multistrike for auto forged strike

[jade cedar]

pray for me

[quiet hearth]

i have to admit, I have zero idea how to build for manifest armor

[floral owl]

hey folks are spin to win and hammerdin the meta rn? i saw that holy bolt was heavily nerfed and is there any other "range" spec that performs good rn on sentinel?

[sullen hollow]

im not an expert but personally id stack debuffs on hit, increase all the stat scaling on the pieces and then on the personal end max out shield throwing + the node that makes the armor do an aoe attack when you hit it with the shield throw

[quiet hearth]

See, the armor is just there to be beef really, the main star of this show will be crab

because its scaling is ludacris

[bleak breach]

wait is that crab unique actually good? XD

[jade cedar]

im using it for the + movespeed on warpath build

[jade cedar]

whats the advantage of using shield rush vs void cleave as a traversal skill?

[sullen hollow]

whats the good scaling part

[quiet hearth]

you scale str and int with cleaver solution

[charred stag]

so when this happens on the first empower making it LP1, what does the 2nd empower do? last few times it looked like nothing changed.

[sullen hollow]

idk the base damage but you cannot spawn that many crabs and the str + int is additive

[quiet hearth]

the 2nd one boosts

[charred stag]

boosts what?

the base affixes of the unique? because it remains LP1 every time

[quiet hearth]

it has a chance to boost whatever it boosted on the first empower iirc, and it is still 800% dmg, that is a big multiplier

[charred stag]

so its only a chance then. cause last few times this happened looked like nothing changed.

[bleak breach]

it probably has just a really low chance to go to lp2, or maybe the chance to upgrade is similar to the chance to find? idk

[quiet hearth]

yeah, small chance, works more often on the exalted items, usually seals it when it does it from my experience

[brazen basin]

anyone playing mana stack, ES with world spliter know if Sulorons step crit strike multi is better over darkstride boots?

[bleak breach]

are drop rates for items known? idr

[quiet hearth]

I should do a world splitter warpath build and just...warpath the whole screen at once

wait, does it count the channel cost, or just the initial cost of starting the spin?

[jade cedar]

rip not crit

[bleak breach]

could have been a lot worse tbf haha

[quiet hearth]

yeah +5 all aint bad

I wonder how much attunement I could get while Str stacking as well

[sand wolf]

question for dual wield warpath experts. When wielding different types of weapons, does base attack rate of those weapons get averaged or applied in sequense or smth else?

[quiet hearth]

averaged I thnk

[sand wolf]

also, is there any mechanic in the game allowing to enable mana regen while channeling warpath / change warpath to (not a channel) for the same reason / restore mana during warpath?

[jade cedar]

you can now regen mana while channeling warpath in 1.1

[quiet hearth]

that is a lot of boring stats on a single idol

[jade cedar]

also this warpath node restores mana

oh nvm its 2h only

[oblique sandal]

so is warpath bugged the server keeps crashing when I use it

[jade cedar]

but yeah you can now regen mana during warpath, i am using it

[tribal basin]

Anyone else here playing around with Forged Weapons ?

[bright nest]

I am / was

[spark monolith]

how was it in empowered monoliths?

[bright nest]

Damage is great, even with little to no gear. Tank does require some love on the gearing side

[summer shell]

Mine are starting to die extremely quickly on certain bosses at 275, biggest pain point imo

Random void zone under boss gg takes like 10 seconds to spawn 12 more

[solid forge]

Sentinel natural mana regen is 9/s, thus if you lower the cost of Warpath from 18 to below 9, you will start gaining mana.

[bright nest]

yeah you want to deff stack attunement and get some minion health if you can

[solid forge]

T7 Minion health on Belt. Thank me later.

[summer shell]

I messed up and frost lich is my 275, if he or harbinger camps in one of the moving void zones they all die instantly even with like 300% max and leech gloves right now

Just feels very lame being at the mercy of minion ai with such a slow ramp up imo

[quiet hearth]

the time has finally come to reroll, and it's engi's fault because their VK knowledge failed me

[sand wolf]

oh well... It seems using 2 Palarus's 1-handed swords doesnt increase a cap of 3 smite procs / second... Im sad

[quiet hearth]

no it does not

it does double the stat bonuses tho

[sand wolf]

well idk idk, same damage number for smite proc while switching to 2 palarus at 35 strength

[vale ravine]

can quickly run the numbers in my sheet if you wanna
I would still stick to darkstride tho just for the move speed personally

[brazen basin]

Oh you have a dmg calac sheet?
yeah the MS is defs nice

[vale ravine]

13% damage increase on the tin with obvious disclaimer your mileage may vary based on your stat distribution and i havent compensated for the loss of phys res so you are are probably paying with some EHP for it etc etc etc

[bleak breach]

i hope i never get to the point of needing a spreadsheet to make decisions XD

[vale ravine]

i can see it subbed in for boss fights tho if you can solve the phys res with an easy bone amulet sub-in or something

when in doubt, sim it 😄

[brazen basin]

Ah nice to see Sul does give more dmg, currently running it and phy res isnt an issue

[coral marlin]

Hey guys, im lvl 77 and still havent dropped a polarus. is RNG just this bad? lol

[brazen basin]

thanks for running that

[quiet hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/nerds-mad-football-rage-gif-16650450

but for real I could never do that sort of calc

[bleak breach]

am i blind or is this search just wrong

[vale ravine]

np 🙂 ye crit dam is a big multiplier and even in giga optimized setup you will only get to like... 500%ish? for example a point in the 25% crit dam in the ES skill tree is also way better than 1 point in the 12 flat damage passive

[vale ravine]

i mean you dont need to, there are tools out there you just need to fill in your numbers 😄

[brazen basin]

are there tools outthere to cal dmg/ehp for LE?

[vale ravine]

i only put together my own chart to be able to test ES specific stuff but the general math is spelled out here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1bern0o/last_epoch_damage_calculator_v111/, and the guy has a tool implementing it
(he did mess up penetration calculation but the rest checks out imo)

for EHP i just refer to LE tools, it is 90% correct sans some conditional DR effects

[vale ravine]

well vitality gives necrotic resistance 😄

[brazen basin]

Ah ty ty

[bleak breach]

oh... right, to the corner of shame i go lol
tbf i was looking for an upgrade to a % necrotic res idol i already have :evasive:

[vale ravine]

here is mine if you want to mess around with it (disclaimer, havent checked if it actually works offline just downloaded my google docs sheet)

[charred stag]

decent

[vale ravine]

i was actually trying to make something like this earlier today and it wasnt easy even in MG lol

[inner drum]

Do the axes thrown from Vortex Pennant and Axe Thrower passive have separate cds? ie 2 axes per second?

[bleak breach]

is there a simple way in a loot filter to apply to only t7 exalted stuff?

[charred stag]

set rarity to exalted, choose your affixes, and set advanced option to equal T7

[bleak breach]

so no way to just say all t7? feels inefficient to select all 700 or so, not for me on toggling them but for the game to handle on every item drop lol

[charred stag]

do you really wanna see all affixes tho?

[vale ravine]

YOINK

[bleak breach]

i'm still quite new to the game so idk what exactly to be looking for

[quiet hearth]

generally you want to block everything save for the affix your build needs, maybe a few of the more rare ones can be the exception

[charred stag]

it would be based on what your build requires and block everything else except for rare affixes

[bleak breach]

well shoot, what should i put, thus far i have not had any filtering lol

for the generic ones i mean, i think ik the main ones for my build

[vale ravine]

lol c100 shade just dies now without casting a skill even with ward kek

[turbid dome]

I see, using one of the new glyphs just gives a pile of stability and giga rerolls your gear

[vale ravine]

i actually got a sealed from it once lol

[charred stag]

@turbid dome okay VC with the move node is legit lol, especially since you dont need a target too.

[bright nest]

is anyone playing forge strike bleed atm.

[turbid dome]

ye

[bleak breach]

any of y'all get the new null exalt?

[charred stag]

sometimes yeah

[vale ravine]

i get it if i put emphasie in my loot rule

[bleak breach]

oh would ya look at that XD
it is a t7 i have on emphasize

[vale ravine]

an 1.0 bug they havent fixed yet...

[bleak breach]

is it sometimes or all the time?

[vale ravine]

most of the time for me so i just stopped using emph all together cause cba

[bleak breach]

rip, ig i can just recolor it

[vale ravine]

yep

[bleak breach]

pimk :)

[vale ravine]

im a green guy 🙂

[turbid dome]

recolor exalted to be yellow and rares to be purple 👍

[vale ravine]

bruh

[bleak breach]

this, this is a great idea, also flip the sounds as well so rares make the exalt drop sound

[tacit zealot]

Same but mines the 1 green shade above yours so it's the brighter neon green lol

[crystal bramble]

Still haven’t found Apathy’s Maw for ES yet but I made this today in the meantime

Realized after though coulda sealed all stats over aoe increase

[charred stag]

damn this is kinda nutty, gotta save for an alt

[charred stag]

got my first one today. yours next

[vale ravine]

I think Im realizing i realllly got spoiled by 1.0 MG experience. I got this today from 200k and i was kinda fuming that this is the best I could get and that it isnt exactly my BiS from my first purchase lol

[sweet hazel]

This explicitly happens to any exalted gloves that have throwing damage on them for me. If I pick them up and drop them again, it fixes it, but yeah seems to be a new bug.

[bleak breach]

that's so odd lol

[sweet hazel]

Oh it's not new, apparently been a thing. I didn't experience it at all last season.

[vale ravine]

oh i had it all the time

quite annoying rly but well

[sweet hazel]

I did always colour my emphasized ones as dark red, maybe that's why I didn't before? I would have drops that were the exact thing I was looking for be red.

I just kept them the normal exalted colour this time around.

[steep bison]

What are the core skills to start a Void Knight? I've been trying to stay away from build guides but feels like my build (lvl 20ish) is all over the place...

[crystal bramble]

I think Rive is popular for VK leveling

[vale ravine]

yep, i always do rive while building up cleave+erasing strike combo

[sand wolf]

Yo, guys, i have kind of a basic question, for a physical melee attack purposes, do "bonus physical damage" and "bonus melee damage" apply additively, multiplicatively or whichever's highest? (pls @ me, thanks)

[steep bison]

Does Smite get involved at all? Or not during leveling.

[quiet hearth]

you can do smite, and I can reccomend it just because of time and faith in sentinel

[karmic herald]

Doing warpath and wonder if there is another way of doing the build than maxroll's echo warpath guide? Any new "tech" to the build?

[vale ravine]

all "increased damage" goes into the same bucket i.e. additive with each other and form one multiplier in the damage calculation

[turbid dome]

if you attack with a physical melee attack and have 100% increased physical damage and 100% increased melee damage, the attack has 200% increased damage

All increases that can affect the skill you use (view its scaling tags to see what affects it) are added together to get the total increased damage

[polar spire]

Rive is like the strongest sentinel leveling skill by far, for any of the 3 masteries

[turbid dome]

dang Wacsa

[mighty lark]

Anyone got a good loot filter for sentinel? Smite/HH

[vale ravine]

would have replied sooner but lagoon was being a biatch

[turbid dome]

classic lagon

[karmic herald]

check Raxxanterax on youtube, he got an universal filter you can use for that if noone got any, link to the filter https://pastebin.com/fRr457bA

[polar spire]

Hahahaha i always skip lagon purely because i can, since he isnt required

[turbid dome]

the health regen blessing is so comfy tho

[vale ravine]

kinda is for my mana stacker

[polar spire]

True, true, i just enjoy the fact that he is skippable

[karmic herald]

Any high corruption Warpath enjoyer that can share build for inspiration?

[polar spire]

I remember someone else struggling on him for multiple hours and i just sat there like... Just go around him through harton?

[turbid dome]

Do you fight the Lagon harbringer up or down the stairs, their the next on my murder list

[minor grove]

man im struggling to find a reason to use event horizon over void beacon or maw

[vale ravine]

ohm... damage? 😄

[minor grove]

yeah sure but I dont have to do 10 slow ass attacks for setup for erasing strike using void beacon

[polar spire]

Yea event's going to have specific build setups, like the fact that thanks to aspect of the shark stacking on a beastmaster and event horizon, you can reach 6000-8000% phys damage with positive attack speed

[minor grove]

yeah I was even looking at blade Dancer setup since dancer has mostly generic dmg on tree for shadow cascade

[vale ravine]

i mean that said i went with world splitter for the same reason

[candid crag]

so the patch notes say that fissure damage got buffed, yet the ingame tool tip does not reflect that. is fissure still garbage/ doesn't convert if smite converts?

[turbid dome]

Event horizon on lich -> get 10 stacks -> poison aura everything to death

I see no problem with this

[vale ravine]

wait what, aura is melee?

[polar spire]

Is it more damage or more melee damage?

[minor grove]

I was hoping warpath would proc the stacks on channel hits but nope 1 proc per channel

[polar spire]

I cant remember now, you got me confused

[turbid dome]

Nvm it’s more melee

I thought it was just more

[winged pulsar]

FG and VK at empowered start. Running Back rank 1 arena Pala, FG and VK again this cycle.

[minor grove]

I did look at melee lich for it lol

[mighty lark]

I have a palarus and an aurelius now

[vale ravine]

hoooolllllyyy i was always wanted to play agood Harvest build tho

[minor grove]

I was mainly trying to do VK cus of my empower

[turbid dome]

👀

[minor grove]

its not like you NEED 10 stacks for clearing you'd just want it for bossing and you can do that with vengeance but you have to use void cleave for crit cus it has no crit

[balmy mountain]

Anyone tried a forged Weapon build?

[minor grove]

I am wondering of smelters wrath is the play btw cus wraths charge speed ignores the AS reduction

[bleak breach]

uh, no i dont think so

[quiet hearth]

I had that happen

[primal heron]

Does healing effectiveness affect heals from blocking attacks?

[mighty lark]

is dual weilding Palarus and Aurelius any good?

[karmic herald]

tp to another monolith or zone and back for quick fix

[bleak breach]

okay, i'm not coping in saying that this location sucks for this thing to spawn in right? 😄

you cant walk through to bottom two corners and can barely fit through the top two corners

that aside tho, just "beat" my first empowered echo with one death that totally was not my fault (it was)

[inland quarry]

i'm in unempowered monos and so far I have never melted bosses so fast. clear is mid though, the swords have to individually attack enemies and they don't seem to have aoes. of if they did, it's not noticeable. Also there is no way to gain life other than HP regen or potions. Ward doesn't seem feasible.

it's fairly squishy.

[vale ravine]

i mean if you build a bunch of HP regen you can do ward as well with vessel of strife

[inland quarry]

sure you can, but you loose some much needed affixes unless you can get a 2L.

and then you need to spec int to retain ward. just too much work.

[vale ravine]

ye tbh i have zero idea how you survive on an FG

besides armor but you do that anyway on everything

[inland quarry]

you can't. sentinel is a noob trap, it starts off tanky but after the first 20 levels, other classes far outpace it in defense.

[vale ravine]

one day we will have ethical 100k EHP... but not today lol

[inland quarry]

kinda sucks that they somehow nerfed the tankiness of sentinel even more in 1.1 who thought that was a good idea?

[vale ravine]

well VK technically got buffed but ye. I mean i understand the design decision, it just sucks they didnt roll out the change paired with the defense redesign supposedly being worked upon

[inland quarry]

that extra 1hp per vit was worthless. the most you get is 120 extra HP. whoopee ding.

to sacrifice all other affixes just for 120 extra hp isn't worth it.

[wintry tangle]

Hello guys,i need guide for my warpath build

[vale ravine]

*2-2.3 from % HP affixes, it's not much but hey it's sumthing

[wintry tangle]

first time use sentinel

[past trellis]

If I choose FG can I still use maxroll’s rive VK build if it doesn’t leverage the VK specific skill? Or will I be unable to use more than x passives into VK?

[pearl geyser]

im finding fg quite tanky with the shield nodes. have the 10% less dmg taken nearby from the sent tree, 10% less from walls of solarum, and 15% less damage over time that doubles on pot use. add in all the block effectiveness and 60%+ block and you're super tanky with the automated ring of shields

you wont be able to go beyond the middle portion of the vk tree

[past trellis]

Thx

[vale ravine]

so what was the answer, doing it now on 200c

well I guess the answer is up considering you are blocked 😄

[jade cedar]

i guess this means i should do the lagon harbinger first

[vale ravine]

well let's just say wedged in with harbinger of war at high corruption is not stress free lol

why do i always get war 😭 literally 5/6

[quiet hearth]

punishment for the all dot build you helped me with the other day

[vale ravine]

officer i never met this man in my life!

i did beat lagon-war tho so im outta there forever lol

[daring lion]

Do Forge Weapons scale damage with STR? LastEpoch tools confusing me

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/summon_weapon

https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/weapon

[quiet hearth]

No, just attunement

[bleak breach]

that's just plain rude, lowest possible move speed and void dmg affix

[safe prism]

Dat implicit speed tho

[bleak breach]

true, imma still chuck it at the next harbinger thingy i see and hope i get a good legendary out of it. what are those things called

[vale ravine]

they are quite cheap thankfully, R9 soon TM

[bleak breach]

i'm CoF 😔

[vale ravine]

ye i know just teasing 😄
i learned to not play unique heavy builds as CoF last season

[bleak breach]

not unless you have some good patience

[quiet hearth]

I wish MG had a gambler you could spend favor on

[vale ravine]

i had an LP3 titan heart with +4 Rive and T5 health and T5 str, it was sooooo gooooooood
doulbe LP3 siphons... I think Lp2 or Lp3 shattered chains...
T7 crit Merophage...
sigh

[quiet hearth]

are you HC?

[vale ravine]

fck no, im too old for that lol

i mean ye technically i still have those just on legacy

[safe prism]

I'm playing ignite forged strike with sunforged set and about ti unlock empowered monos, does It scale well enough in endgame?

[vale ravine]

this was my Mero lol (for flame drinker Rive)

[bleak breach]

I value my time too much to play hc on any game haha

[vale ravine]

lol they bricked legacy chars during transfer, wat

[glad pike]

I am preparing for Corruption/Harbingers. Thoughts? I know stats are not perfect but I think negating critical damage would be extremely important in higher levels

[vale ravine]

it is yep. you eventually want T7 added melee crit on the maw and solve crit immune on gear/blessings, but it's a decent starter

[bleak breach]

-_-

[safe prism]

Sure but there's Better ways to get blind than that, that's too much of and important slot

[vale ravine]

tbf if you have decent HP and armor and leech you are aight wo being crit immune til like 200, ish

[glad pike]

Alright

I guess the safest way to get a good, specific stat legendary would be pairing the axe with an exalted axe with good affixes right?

In the temporal sanctum room

[vale ravine]

ye nemesis is kinda just a transitionary system before you start slamming legendaries

and/or to gamba extremely high end base uniques you dont have any hope to drop with LP

[bleak breach]

does this mean this is as far as i can get from the center or is it just unlucky? i'm 22 echos away rn

[vale ravine]

the web actually has edges but it's not symmetrical, you might have alternative paths which go further

question is if it is worth branching. i usually reset with +12-14-16 bonus nodes

little pro tip, always try to push in directions like this

[bleak breach]

i just want the highest chance at the axe drop tbh

[bleak breach]

oh specifically those lines?

[jade cedar]

just go as far away from the starting point as possible

[vale ravine]

ye i dont know how the fck to say this in English but pushing "diagonally" vs "up/down/right/left" will get you to higher corruption nodes faster

[bleak breach]

lol, i do naturally just go away from the center but i usually prioritize the loot options

[vale ravine]

ye sure pick up whatever you like jsut generally try to go this way when you are pushing

[vale ravine]

which axe?

[bleak breach]

i see, i shall try to do that next time, thanks.
should i defeat the boss before i do the shade or does than not matter for the axe drop because i'd assume the corruption increase would not be applied until after the chance at the axe had been tried for the boss

Apathy's Maw

tbf i'm not even confident i can beat this boss

[vale ravine]

if you are farming maw means you want to kill shade as much as possible, nothing else matters. so that means you want to get to a reset node ASAP, which you achieve by following these "diagonal" lines

[bleak breach]

the drop rate is increased the farther from the center you are

[vale ravine]

kinda but tbh not that substantial I think. and i had it drop on c100 even

my feelscraft is that more attempts will get you one faster but it's just feelscraft

[bleak breach]

haha fair enough

alright, lets see how difficult this boss is, i say it takes me 5 tries

[vale ravine]

it's the easiest thing in the game no worries lol. i completely dumpster him before it even fires an ability

[drowsy marten]

anyone familiar with this Judgement Pally build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/judgement-hands-paladin

[crude matrix]

Judgement Hands Paladin Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.1

Class

Sentinel / Paladin

Used skills

• Javelin
• Holy Aura
• Judgement
• Volatile Reversal
• Healing Hands

Used unique items

• Cradle of the Erased
• Hand of Judgement
• Sunwreath
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

Tags

Cycle Starter / Melee / DoT

Created by dapa · Mar 14, 2024, 2:53 PM

[bleak breach]

oh that was easy lol, no axe tho 😔 time to try again

[drowsy marten]

I just got dropped a Hand of Judgement and wondering if it's worth respeccing and playing this

[sudden radish]

Either respec or create a new character
Do it, it’s fun to play

[grand sleet]

is Sentinel still super squishy?

[vale ravine]

if you considered 1.0 sentinel as super squishy then yes

[grand sleet]

i mean relatively to other classes, like Acolyte is very durable with bunch of damage reductions and fat Ward.

[bleak breach]

is there any way to get rid of these dot pools they leave behind? they make killing the last guy difficult when he sits in it the whole time 😄

[vale ravine]

you can build sentinel competitively but it takes effort and comparatively to acolyte/mage/druid/bm it's worse for sure

[grand sleet]

ok thanks

[bleak breach]

lmao, big hammer harbinger is quick

[tight sage]

omg my first try

[bleak breach]

gave me the good old bait 'n switch on a slam and nuked me in one shot

[bleak breach]

wow, that's awesome sheesh

[vale ravine]

i knoiw what im putting in the next nemesis egg lol

[vale ravine]

nooooooooo

[simple raven]

fun fact. casting a healing spell on urself or minions counts as engaging in combat, meaning spires will keep shooting even if u aint fighting anything

[vale ravine]

i guess you will learn a lesson from this 😄

[simple raven]

omg! gimme! ❤️ gz man! thats a rare drop

[vale ravine]

so you want +melee crit chance on a melee weapon not increased crit, and the two are not the same
(ps: i just saw it is attack speed so nm, but still you really want melee crit chance on maw)

[simple raven]

i really wish endurance threshold would be % of HP on affixes instead of flat numbers. so hard to get a decent amount

[tight sage]

Actually I'm playing Rive which gets to 100% crit chacne without that affix, so I think mine is rly not bad 😄

[vale ravine]

didnt they nerf that node?

but aight if it adds up it adds up 🙂

[tight sage]

there's 2 nodes - 1 gives you 8% higher base crit on rive and the second one doubles crit chance on third strike. With peak of the mountain that's 100%

[vale ravine]

ah ye big peak gamer
i feel so bad using it and losing out on a leonine greathelm that i completely forgot it exists lol

[tight sage]

true, sentinel bases are insane tbh, always a big tradeoff 😄

[vale ravine]

ye like i want to love decayed skull so much if only leonine didnt exist lol

hmm, baseline ravenous void is 400k, LP1 1.5M+.... gamba or no gamba 😄

[elfin warren]

Looking for a second char. Rive Voidknight or Bleed Hammerdin?

[cosmic ivy]

holy god boots

[tight sage]

I mean worst case you'd be losing 400k then, I'd always gamba here 😄

[vale ravine]

ikr? 😄

[tight sage]

pls don't die hahaha, let me know what you get

[vale ravine]

ye gonna do it on 100c for sure lol

[jade cedar]

is endurance important for sentinels? and what's a good endurance% and threshold to aim for?

[vale ravine]

yes
60%-20% kinda

(endurance threshold is a rly bad affix)

[bleak breach]

i'm assuming left is better

[vale ravine]

is neither an option? 😄

[bleak breach]

i do have another plain one 😂

[manic horizon]

I want to slam this for forged weapons, but i am not sure if flat phys + crit rate is better or crit rate + crit multi is, or any other suggestions?

[sand wolf]

does Trinity of Flames work with triggered spells or only with direct casted?

[bleak breach]

i feel like this may come in handy in the near future with a slam

[vale ravine]

-400k but hey could have been worse 😄

[tight sage]

yup haha that's 68 more health than it had before 😄

[glad pike]

Am I right to assume this will deal massive damage regardless of my HP and void resistance? I'm familiar with the shade but I haven't played since march/april

[vale ravine]

i think that's a lagon style fast ticking DoT effect so ye dont stay in for too long

[glad pike]

It happened really fast, I think it was a oneshot

[vale ravine]

standing in sht is no bueno

[bleak breach]

so uh, it's a one shot, i just "tested" it on purpose, trust

but my ehp is terrible tbf

the axe eludes me again

[glad pike]

Nice to know. My HP is 1.4k

[vale ravine]

i may have just left an LP1 on the ground

[bleak breach]

oh mine's like 1.9k with an ehp of prolly 2.5k

[bleak breach]

rippp, tbh i've been leaving a lotta uniques i know i already have on the ground lol, they drop like crazy

[vale ravine]

are you solo self found? have another LP1 non tagged

[bleak breach]

nope, i see all uniques, there's just like some with lp1 or lp2 that have terrible rolls when i know i have a better one in the stash so i just leave it

[vale ravine]

no i mean i can give it to you 😄

or you need the resonance now for it, im completely out of the loop with multiplayer

[bleak breach]

ohhh, haha. I appreciate the offer but i'm stubborn 😄

plus i've only killed two shades, i have no right to complain yet XD
i'm just strugglin to make it through these echos

[vale ravine]

whelp

[bleak breach]

currently at 1800 stability on this mono

[manic horizon]

is this the sorc mana stacking gear or what

[vale ravine]

well they are def the ones driving up the prices lol but I would use it on my sentinel

i guess im truly fakked, T6 also starts at 1M

[manic horizon]

well damn time to adjust filter

[vale ravine]

oh ye T6 mana on a crusader gauntlet or a bone amulet is abs money

[minor grove]

booooooooooooooooo wrong crit

[vale ravine]

F

f ye somebody didnt check the market and posted it for 100k 😄

despair hit the T2, then 3 glyph of hopes in a row to get hybrid health to 5 XD

[bleak breach]

Here's the current state of my build, I'm really liking it except for the javelin and smite, they're useless because the javelin takes too long to cast so it's too risky. my leech gets up to like 2k/s with a warpath echo or two up which is really good but if i lose the chain then it quickly falls off and death approaches rather quickly. usually not an issue unless there's ranged enemies, they're the bane of my existence. so changes i wanna make are either finding a solution for the cast speed of javelin or completely remove both that and smite from the build to replace with something else entirely. I also think maybe titan heart is leaning too much into leech dependency, but that is kinda the whole point of it. Any suggestions?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owYjOlXQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (74)

General:

▸ Health: 1,922, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 150, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 140% / 120% / 157% / 82% / 78% / 74% / 142%
▸ EHP: 3,127 / 3,127 / 3,127 / 3,393 / 3,127 / 3,087 / 3,127

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 384
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (753)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 26%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Smite (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Titan Heart
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish

[vale ravine]

whatever you do never ever ever drop away that titan heart, that's what's keeping you alive

[bleak breach]

haha, is the build a lot worse without it?

[vale ravine]

reading this chat for some time now I guess you prob picked up on the theme that sentinel defenses are bad

[bleak breach]

yeahhh... and my armor situation is rly bad rn

[vale ravine]

damage reduction is at a premium

[bleak breach]

i do get like +300 armor in warpath from a blessing

[vale ravine]

focus on your blessings first imo: age of winter armor, reign all res, spirit flat armor

then for me hybrid health on boots - gloves - belt are staples, in fact belt is a double HP affix item for me. solve your resistance in places where the opportuntiy cost is not health % or hybrid health

then for crit avoid be on the lookout for leonine greathelm drops, it should start dropping for you soon. maybe do some exalted helm prophecies until you get an okay one

these will basically shore up your defenses quite nicely, offense i have no idea about i hate warpath lol

[bleak breach]

i think offence i'm good for now at least

most bosses don't take any more than like 10-30 seconds with a few of the more annoying ones taking longer due to dodging

a lot of ambush echo bosses at 100 corruption are killed before i even knew there was a boss

[vale ravine]

ye im all about beefing personally, damage is rarely an issue

last "generic beef" advice: if you ever see a double HP 1x2 idol always make room for it. ideally you would want to fill out your whole inventory with these at the end andsolve resistances from other sources

unless ofc you need a specific idol for your build

[wet forum]

That's an incredible roll

[vale ravine]

i mean, im MG right 😄

[minor grove]

Unless you're doing shield bash and you're immortal against everything but dots but you're doing zdps without crit shield

[vale ravine]

i have an 5/15, 5/17, 5/18, 5/27 and an 5/28 currently lol

[frank widget]

hello. has anyone tried ucenui's sphere? it's not casting water orb when hitting a rare or boss enemy.

[wet forum]

Yeah stacking them gets huge fast, I'd totally be using more if but it's hard to let go of Cleave AoE lol

[simple raven]

someones blocking 😄

[cosmic ivy]

i beat da game

[simple raven]

0% more armor, useless. better vendor it asap

[cursive python]

Can someone help me make sense of Void Knight's apparent bipolarism with whether it wants to be melee or caster? It's melee stuff is just so strong, but it has way more caster support.

[cosmic ivy]

it rolls from -10 to 20 tho

i wish the mana roll was better tho

[spark monolith]

grats

[vale ravine]

can i interest you in melee caster? 😄

[cursive python]

Yeah, grats

[cursive python]

You can. How does it work?

[vale ravine]

world splitter erasing strike

[cursive python]

Is that a unique?

[vale ravine]

ye

[cursive python]

And a very high level one at that...

[cosmic ivy]

sadly getting 2 LP on it is extremely hard so this is best you can get

[vale ravine]

it's only 3-4M 😄

[tribal crane]

killed aberroth twice so far, no nihilis or null portent but on both times i've got seed of ekkidrasil and wall of nothing. so bad rng

[cosmic ivy]

i got all the drops

[simple raven]

i know, was trolling 😛

[vale ravine]

actually only 2.5M now, looks like not many are byung them out

[spark monolith]

how hard was abberoth for you?

[cosmic ivy]

face tanked

[vale ravine]

Wow with less than 3k hp? Pog

[hallow violet]

Hey guys! I find a bug, hammer throw talent not working properly "Mana starved forging"

how should i contact the devs / report the bug?

[cosmic ivy]

the dmg numbers against him 🧌

[glad pike]

I'm starting to associate terms like "bomb", "meteor" with instant execution

[spark monolith]

Nice. Well, hopefully i can face tank him as well when I get to him. Although my damage numbers are nowhere near that

[cosmic ivy]

i dont have much void damage stat at all, just melee void damage and mostly built defense

[wet forum]

Wait.. huh, that's incredibly squishy

[spark monolith]

Makes sense. Your damage is great. So building defenses should be the priority. Be curious how far you can push

[cosmic ivy]

how so

i face tank 600 corrupt harbinger

also that armor gets increased a lot when hit

[wet forum]

Something doesn't add up, do you have like 3k endurance threshold or something

[cosmic ivy]

like 700

all u need to tank from aberroth is the triple flail slam

as long as ur not 1 shot u can outheal

[simple raven]

my current defensive stats in combat

[wet forum]

Guess I'll have to see then, I know I was about as tanky and getting bullied by the non-empowered harbinger - though I guess that was just because it was the agile variant

[simple raven]

but only 1774 life atm, so need more

[cosmic ivy]

building mana and hp at the same time is so bad

[reef drift]

s it normal for corruption and stability to reset after many hours of not being logged in ? (empowered monos)

[wet forum]

Oh wait nevermind, I remember now, I wasn't leeching enough so not really tankier actually, yeah nvm me it makes sense now

Leech go kinda crazy

[bright nest]

Everyone clearing screens. makes a forge guard feel small

[spark monolith]

I have faith in our minions

[oak kite]

any idea if electrify jav is worth?

[wet forum]

If it is, I prob wouldn't use that item because there's a node that does exactly that conversion - unless it stacks and you get 2x as much chance, in which case I'm sure you can cook something

[oak kite]

what about crit throwing lightning jav?

i have like 3 exalted throwing dmg items that can make up for the low dmg on spear i suppose

and probably enough to hit 100% crit

[wet forum]

Actually maybe the item would still be worth even if the convert doesn't apply 2x, since that electrify pen is huge, but it's competing with a 2h axe bleed statstick

About crit jav I'm entirely clueless though

I'll need to look at the tree again

[oak kite]

yea i can get like +90 throwing dmg from gear, and paladin / forgeguard tree has enough to cap crit

could throw on something like this too instead of using that spear

[pearl prawn]

when does echo warpath vk get good? switched to it from maxrolls leveling vk build at 50 and lost like 75% of my dmg. LOL

[gentle trail]

what's your build?

[cosmic ivy]

erasing strike

bro not the t1 affix 😭

[arctic tartan]

How is clear with erasing strike?

[wise rune]

very good

[arctic tartan]

Anyone got a planner? Now that I got aberroth on farm I'm looking for a build that can use his drops

[icy jay]

Have to admit bashing faces with shield is satisfying

[scenic cypress]

Hey, does anyone have planner for smite warpath pally with palarus?

[wise rune]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYk06x3Q this is my current build at level 85 thats doing really well in empowered monos and should give you a rough idea of what to go for, I definitely need to work on my defenses but so far my damage has been so high that it hasnt mattered

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 85

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,373, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 271, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 63 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 142% / 58% / 75% / 28% / 142% / 50% / 69%
▸ EHP: 3,601 / 3,079 / 3,588 / 3,583 / 3,601 / 2,890 / 3,396

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 73%, Threshold: 421
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,080)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 64%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (22)
• Smite (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Lunge (20)
• Javelin (20)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Rule of the Simoon
• The Scavenger

[scenic cypress]

thanks I will check this out, also saw this build on icy veins is that eversion any good?

[wise rune]

it looks pretty good aside from the smite tree

[woven temple]

im pretty sure that it was reporteda as bugged a few months ago

[crude wolf]

Is the bug with shield rush that locks you in place only present in online play? Or does it exist in offline as well? If it's online only I might have to switch until it gets fixed...

[brave mountain]

what build is that

[cosmic ivy]

erasing strike

[brave mountain]

oh the mana stacking one?

[cosmic ivy]

its so annoying to use when fighting, you cannot use anything while performing erasing strike for so long

stupid design

[brave mountain]

im playing currently wp it was fine until i got into empowered

think i need to invest a bit into hp tbh

[cosmic ivy]

cant drop harbinger eyes or belt from shades...

[solid forge]

Getting to empowered checks your build, then empowered checks mostly your items. So yeah, time to bump those defense stats.

[night rock]

armor mitigates spell hits, right? just not as bigly for non phys damage? so that means shred armor on a smite warpath sentinel is still a good choice, if most of my damage is from smite?

[hallow lotus]

Yes

Armour just reduces the damage of all hits

It's only 70% as effective for elemental damage

[solid forge]

Only 70% for non-physical

[icy jay]

And no dots

[solid forge]

Sentinel has items to apply armor damage mitigation to dots though

[icy jay]

And there is an experimental affix too

[solid forge]

Yes, I'm trying to get that one sealed on my gloves

[night rock]

thanks boss!

[icy jay]

I like forgeguard cause can reach phat armor

(All sentinels can)

But fg is the behemoth

[solid forge]

I only have 1700 armor ATM hahahah

[frigid hatch]

Is FG just the way to go for this cycle? Seems like nobody's playing pally anymore

[solid forge]

Not necessarily. It's just a lot of us were frustrated it was weak in cycle 1, so we play it now

[icy jay]

I wouldn't say that

[icy jay]

It is kinda weak since early times of le , except few niche builds.

[night rock]

on my character sheet, is the additional resistances from holy aura (shelter from the storm) included if im in a town?

[solid forge]

I'm going banana over what damage stat to go for between crit/melee damage or fire/attack speed on my weapons

[icy jay]

They should be but not with activation boost

[night rock]

i see, i thnk its because i was swapping stuff around and the skill wentg on cd. i teleported out and it shows properly again

[daring lion]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK0J4Z2Q

Help me build a Minion FG pls. This is what I came up with after 1hr of tinkering on the tools site.

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (78) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,646, Regen: 23/s
▸ Mana: 160, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 50 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 11 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 72% / 97% / 93% / 74% / 56% / 64%
▸ EHP: 5,967 / 5,766 / 5,967 / 9,925 / 5,908 / 5,015 / 5,376

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 529
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,139)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Multistrike (23)
• Forge Strike (29)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Manifest Armor (29)
• Healing Hands (21)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Logi's Hunger
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Throne of Ambition

[icy jay]

Messing with tools is the actual gameplay

[sterile latch]

Yeah you guys actually play the game outside of excel?

[solid forge]

Last Epoch is just a simulator to test our builds from LETools lol

[solid forge]

We have to. Only way to know if it works hehe

[cosmic ivy]

disaster

[solid forge]

Looks fine mostly, you should reach empowered monos and 300 corr with a few exalted

[daring lion]

Is it enough to kill Abberoth? Probably not right?

[solid forge]

There is no way to tell until you are there because your build plan will obviously adapt as you go through the emp monos

If the build is solid enough to reach emp monos on crap gear, which it should, then it's going to be mostly the items making the difference to aberoth

With that said, I have one critic

Switch most of the Strength for Attunement

Unless you want to do most of the damage yourself, but you said you wanted a minion build

[turbid dome]

If you can, go for increased armor on your gear, not from strength so your minions get it

[vernal scroll]

Do some people tryed the Erasing strike in endgame ?

[cosmic ivy]

this is the worst design ever...

[solid forge]

Of course, plenty of ways to build it as well

[vernal scroll]

How good is it ? Is it the best VK in town ?

[turbid dome]

Time to convert some void dmg to physical

[solid forge]

Not sure what's your point. Your two videos, you stubbornly want to stand still in the area damage to keep hitting.

[cosmic ivy]

that specific attack ticks too fast

[turbid dome]

Darn

[cosmic ivy]

what area damage

i cant move while using skill you know, and then it cast this super fast wave of instadeath

[solid forge]

That's my point. ES is a slow hitting nuclear nuke, its downside is the animation locking you

[cosmic ivy]

its just rng with the phases

[wooden crag]

u were just standing in front of him when he was about to cast his frontal aoe

[cosmic ivy]

yeah like im supposed to know its doing this specific attack, it does that same attack animation on so many different attacks

i saw him do it but its far too late to react to it

[wooden crag]

just keep on trying and soon ull know when to dodge and do dmg

[cosmic ivy]

there is no such thing as know when to dodge 💀

[solid forge]

Honestly I don't think you can leech/regen your way through it, so you have to avoid it

[cosmic ivy]

the thing is, you cant really know when it does that attack, the moment it starts casting it and you try do some dmg to boss. 0 time to move

[wooden crag]

ofc there is. it is telegraphd

[sterile latch]

Yeah you either facetank and boss is easy or got gear checked. There's no skill in arpg wut u talking bout?

[cosmic ivy]

yeah if only VK was a tanky class LOL

long ass attack animation, no instant teleportation

[daring lion]

I did on chest, for MA flat dmg conversion, but Armor is a suffix, not a prefix so I'd rather go for Health or Resistance there.

[solid forge]

Last cycle, I had HH as immuned traversal to get out of tough situations on my ES VK

[cosmic ivy]

6 sec cooldown

[daring lion]

Thank you for your time reviewing. I am conflicted about this part because as a 2hander user, most of the FG nodes for it are leaning towards the FG doing the damage himself. Void Cleave is a big reason why I chose 2hander, to buff the Forge Weps.

I can change it to Javelin with buffing/transversal conversion which scales super well with Attunement, but yeah. Still figuring out how I prefer to roll with the minions.

Might even just go Rive and use that convert weapons into scrap node haha.

[sterile latch]

not if u hit a minion

[mighty cedar]

not bad for early ha

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

[solid forge]

That's why I said you need to figure out how you want the damage done. It can be mostly you, mostly the minions or ~50/50. You also need to choose between melee crit, ignite or ~50/50 as well

[rugged elbow]

Hey guys, i dont know if this has been shared but im pretty sure this is the best gloves for FG at the moment, i have confirmation from the devs and even tested it myself and the flat dmg does get double diped, u also can get 50+ melee speed that would be impossible otherwise, those gloves at LP 3+ are going for roughtly 30k gold (LOL), go and buy them.

Just ignore everything falcon related and focus only on the last 2 mods

Same goes for this if u want to go shield

[solid forge]

That's a very nice find, but then you need to give up a sealed experimental affix like armor dot mitigation. More damage or more defense, good question.

[blazing river]

Does fire pen with maces from warpath works with smite procs from tree and palarus?

[solid forge]

That axe would certainly be very funny with the node making the minions explode

10s cd on revive is a bit slow though

[rugged elbow]

@solid forge the minions dont get revived though since they are not companions

[solid forge]

Ah yes true

[rugged elbow]

i only use it for the %melee, fire pen and flat to your and your minions( that does get double diped aswell)

[solid forge]

Eye of Reen seems much better than the axe for me though

[rugged elbow]

about survival, i get plenty from using a shield and all the good defensive bases

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApVqmrjB this is the character at the moment

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (72) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,862, Regen: 35/s
▸ Mana: 371, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 63 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 127% / 107% / 60% / 149% / 83% / 80% / 83%
▸ EHP: 7,614 / 7,614 / 6,630 / 14,217 / 7,614 / 7,614 / 7,614

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 28%, Threshold: 372
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,850)
▸ Block Chance: 70%, Mitigation: 45% (1,614)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Ring Of Shields (23)
• Forge Strike (25)
• Manifest Armor (25)
• Javelin (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)

Used unique items:

• Hakar's Phoenix
• Falcon Fists
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Logi's Hunger
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[solid forge]

I'll grab a few the falcon gloves later to test

[rugged elbow]

@solid forge So, from what i got from the devs on the ask me channel complex mods dont work on the weapon so i rulled it out, but ill ask about this one especifically because if it does work it would be the strongest one for sure

yeah they dont work, only simple mods do just got confirmation

[solid forge]

Even if minions don't get Ire, they get everything else, but I'm a special case. I need a sword in offhand for dual wield

[rugged elbow]

That is something i havent confirmed yet, if they pull stats from both weapon i case of dual wield

Have u confirmed it?

[solid forge]

If I could, I'd use that axe in main hand, but that's also locked to Aberoth hehe

But I'm gonna see if I can replace Void Cleave with Javelin

[rugged elbow]

yeah im using javelin for travel + buff since im already stacking attunement

[wise rune]

Yes most warpath smite builds use a Sceptre main hand to take advantage of this

[solid forge]

They seem to, hard to confirm. I just assumed they did otherwise DW would be useless.i'll test it later by removing the weapon

[daring lion]

Sorry may I ask the definition of "simple mods" in your statement?

[solid forge]

Direct stats, not special effects

[daring lion]

Dual wield computation is treated as one whole weapon. So both your weapons are combined into one big statstick, where it takes the AVG of attack speed from your 2 Weps as your attack speed

[rugged elbow]

@daring lion i don't know exactly myself but from my chat with the devs it appears to be simple add on stats and ailments, things "unique" in a sense dont apply, the best thing for now would be to clarify like i did my self for the "you and your minions" mods, this one does work btw, both for flat dmg and the penetration one

[blazing river]

In dev channel they just told me it doesnt work for the spells, only for melee hit

[solid forge]

Yeah, that's what I assumed for my logic to go DW

[rugged elbow]

Btw, i guys using Logi's or Deathrattle? im thinking about going for Deathrattle now that im at merchant 9, just buy a bunch and temporal untill i hit attunement

[solid forge]

I'm using logi's, but it's because I found one for 0 gold lol

[crystal bramble]

Put this in a Nem egg. Any build ideas?

[waxen nymph]

Erasing Strike

[turbid dome]

void 👍

[crystal bramble]

Would have to change the core of how it's played though right, since you can't use VC with it

[wise rune]

I'm 99% sure they are wrong because I use it and my smites hit for way more damage during warpath and I don't have any other while channeling damage modifiers, also the other effects from the same node are global and you can literally see them show up on your character sheet while spinning

[brittle grove]

@turbid dome ever tried erasing strike with this? first time i ever seen that weapon tbh

[turbid dome]

I haven't

[waxen nymph]

May I ask what is the question?

[wise rune]

Does fire pen from warpath apply to smite while spinning

[waxen nymph]

Yes

You also get 10%Base crit for your Smite if you have a Sword

[brittle grove]

the massive additional amount of crit multi makes it interesting for me, and being able to drop health leech nodes as well

[waxen nymph]

It also applies to Holy Aura Flame Burst

[turbid dome]

both void rift + abyssal echoes get flat spell damage from vitality, so I'd vitality stack and go for increased void damage (especially the increased void damage and spell damage double affix). The idea is you erasing strike something -> kill it -> watch the void rifts and echos explode everything

[brittle grove]

y i know, but seeing that new (for me) weapon actually gets me interested again

[turbid dome]

go forth and build!

[brittle grove]

can you send me your erasing strike pob? i'm on phone and that would make a whole lot less button presses

[glass bolt]

is Flame Burst in Holy Aura bugged? I cant see the stacks on the monsters

[waxen nymph]

They were never visible but it does work afaik

[turbid dome]

Heres my current character, I kinda left my first planner

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApVqvDLB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (64) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,057, Regen: 87/s
▸ Mana: 112, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 70 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 67% / 82% / 92% / 88% / 97% / 145%
▸ EHP: 5,901 / 5,450 / 5,901 / 7,556 / 5,901 / 5,901 / 5,901

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 611
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,725)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Erasing Strike (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish

[waxen nymph]

Look for small yellow ish explosion

[trim cove]

guys, how do you deal with lack of mana, im playing shield bash, mana sustaining is a problem

[turbid dome]

time + faith, with rive

[brittle grove]

thanks a bunch!

[simple raven]

havent seen this one before. 71% pen again all resistance on melee dmg o_O

[turbid dome]

big hammer fun

[trim cove]

problem of shield bash build is im not using any zero mana skill at all

[random python]

I'm not really liking the gameplay loop of having to start over at 100 corruption each time i kill a harbinger. It's like "easy content, easy content, easy content, Challenging FUN content, than back to easy for hours again. :/

[waxen nymph]

Did you reduce shield bash mana cost?

[trim cove]

yea, both relic and the skill tree one

[random python]

Games still great, I'm 500 hours in, but yeah, Not feeling that. :/

[turbid dome]

@random python are you using gaze? (and the new glyph to get gaze faster)

[waxen nymph]

Maybe farm a few Needles too to get gazes faster

[random python]

I'm using gaze, but i just killed a harbinger, and he didn't drop a needle.... so now i'm fked, and it's going to take 4 times as long to kill the next one XD.

[turbid dome]

as long as you've killed 2 of them you got this at least

[random python]

That helps i guess, but barely notice. Anyway. Just giving some feedback.