🔱┃sentinel

[wise rune]

thats a t7 and a t6 hell yeah

[sweet hazel]

FG Novadin I made/altered from the Maxroll build. Should be about ~40%ish more DPS than the one on maxroll that has really weird ring/amulet choices.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjK2GbPo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,540, Regen: 81/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 29 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 125% / 57% / 57% / 64% / 61% / 86% / 86%
▸ EHP: 10,425 / 8,872 / 8,872 / 15,274 / 9,144 / 10,425 / 10,425

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 508
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (116)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,824)
▸ Block Chance: 65%, Mitigation: 54% (2,450)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (26)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Rebuke (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Li'raka's Claws
• Razorfall
• Bleeding Heart

[sweet hazel]

seeing the one on Maxroll not use Sun Seal is wild, that ring is basically warranted on every build.

and none of that is like bis gear either could be min-max'd way more

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/nova-hammerdin-forge-guard-guide
One there

[polar spire]

So time and faith got a slight rework to heal missing health instead of a flat amount. They really didnt think this through
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrpL074A

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (15) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 8,484, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 127, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 1 Dex / 14 Int / 1 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 177% / 84% / 93% / 44% / 64% / 100% / 71%
▸ EHP: 17,541 / 17,541 / 17,541 / 16,303 / 15,732 / 17,541 / 16,786

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 1,769
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (172)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,459)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 24% (400)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 25%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire, Lightning / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Haste, Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Javelin (21)
• Smite (21)
• Rive (21)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Thorn Slinger
• Titan Heart
• Wing Guards
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Ribbons of Blood
• Ribbons of Blood
• Undisputed
• Flayer's Pride

[bright nest]

wonder what kind of build could really use that weapon fully

[wise rune]

warpath paladin is perfect for it

[sweet hazel]

I thought Warpath doesn't count as melee hits, but just hits?

[polar spire]

Yea i'd agree, lightning smites generally considered the best, but fire and void arent knocked off and thats good fire warpath right there

[sweet hazel]

Unless I'm mistaken and read the wrong thing last season, I read that Warpath explicitly doesn't count as melee hits.

[polar spire]

Maybe you read direct for all the people crying about HH?

[sweet hazel]

That was it, that jogged my memory.

[wise rune]

warpath counts as melee hits, it just only counts once per channel for healing hands, but it doesnt have that limitation on this sword

[polar spire]

Because it does count as melee hits, just only 1 direct unless you set up a mouse scrip to spam click and hold warpath for half a second, which makes HH work LMAO

[sweet hazel]

I had such a script on my Warlock last season because it was so god damn click intensive lol

These old bones can't stutter step like they used to back in my RTS prime.

[polar spire]

Yea i can believe it, i had to set up a highly specific one to make shield rush at least half work right when going against all the desync

[wise rune]

i just saw a legendary with a sealed affix on it from nemesis wtf why is that possible

[polar spire]

Think it was a click and hold for 400ms then release then click and hold again on a loop

[bright nest]

I really want to test that bleed build, if it ends up better than my crit minion build I will switch... hmm

[polar spire]

What, forge strike bleeder?

[sweet hazel]

Yep. I've gotten pre-sealed Exalteds from Nemesis as well, some insane ones.
Honestly I'm really happy with the Nemesis system. It gives a use to 0LP Uniques and the chance to get sealed Exalteds alleviates Despair drop issues.

[polar spire]

Theres so many god dam ways to run forge strike bleeder. As long as forge strike is set up virtually the same way each time, it doesnt matter how you setup the rest of the kit

Forge strike and vr? Sure
Forge strike and multistrike? Sure
Forge strike and javelin? That works too

[twilit valley]

Well well , looks like a good start for me !!!

[sweet hazel]

My best Nemesis drop has been an exalted Champion Regalia that has double health rolls (one is T7), a sealed T6 Armor Hybrid, and then Strength / Flat Armor.

[polar spire]

Welp, now thats a fat amount of build choices you can go

Just depends on how you wanna run your smites and if you wanna direct cast or not, i'd love to do a triple lightning smite wave nuker with that sword

[bright nest]

aye

[sweet hazel]

is direct smite viable? I never tried it, seemed kind of grief.

[twilit valley]

Yeah - def not slamming it until I find the best exhalted I can in a week

[wise rune]

direct smite is good

[polar spire]

Its one of, if not the strongest sentinel build

[sweet hazel]

Interesting.

[polar spire]

Direct lightning smite, has always been one of the top 3, now that it has HH as well, i wouldnt be surprised if its #1

[sweet hazel]

Mind sharing the build if you have it? I might make an item filter and roll a third Sentinel :kekw

[polar spire]

Ive personally never made one

But i hear about it often, i remember a guy a few years back who's lightning smite tooltip dps was in the millions

[sweet hazel]

I'm hoping one of these days we see a Hammer Throw specific unique... I'm a sicker for my hammerdins.

[polar spire]

Sure tooltip dps is trash most of the time, but sweet jesus

[sweet hazel]

I dismiss the dps tooltip with a very wide margin for error. I've seen first hand how its calculations make no sense lol.

ie; watching the DPS tooltip go up when equipping crit items, while wearing singularity.

[polar spire]

Nowadays you'd prob run what, devotion and drago claw?

[sweet hazel]

for hammers?

[polar spire]

Lightning smite

[sweet hazel]

Oh, unless you were using Palarus'

[polar spire]

I hate hammer throw in every game, hace never touched it
And yea, drago claw main hand, palarus off hand would be sweet

[wise rune]

i will never understand how tooltip dps works because wtf does this mean

[sweet hazel]

I love throwing hammers, lmao. Sadly the best weapon for hammers is Eagle Wing.

[polar spire]

Do you have the holy aura flame burst?

[wise rune]

yes

[twilit valley]

My smite gets to around 300k dps , not sure how they get millions .. but I’m still kinda noob

[violet seal]

Is Void Knight any good this cycle?

[polar spire]

Are you lightning smite?

Also craploads of cast speed

[twilit valley]

Yes lightning

[polar spire]

And devotion amulet, drago claw, what else is there

[twilit valley]

But dps for smite is measured per second . So 300k usually averages around 8-20k crits

Around 100k crits on bosses

[lament star]

Isnt electrify smite better ?

[polar spire]

Naaa, i mean its still strong yes, the lightning blasts if you decide to take them are additional hits for dot stacking

[simple raven]

question: wasent there a talent or item that summoned all sigils in one cast or am i remembering wrong?

i know there is a ring that summons one every 10s, but i thought i remember from 1.0 there was a talent node or something that summoned all sigils in one cast

[polar spire]

Nop

That'd be broken otherwise

[bright nest]

GOd damn the smite mana once you proc it with multistrike is out of this damned world

[simple raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-X268a7Tc8
Thorns not working to stop elites healing

[past trellis]

Is it normal for Manifest Armor to be squishy during leveling? Does he get tankier when end game gear arrives?

[polar spire]

YEA LMAO, im messing around on my multistrike/fs leveler, and picked up smite and HH, and holy moly

[waxen nymph]

Bob scale of your gear
So make sure to have tanky gear

[polar spire]

Considerably so, hell even Wrouk on spellcaster MA paladin, held the #1 spot on sentinel leaderboard for like 2 weeks start of last cycle

[bright nest]

hh can at least be made free

[polar spire]

Smite can too, if you run a caster main hand

[bright nest]

but yeah the bleed build you cooked up needs something to make it shine I think, also the ST seems like it would be a problem since bleed application is lacking on pure st

[polar spire]

Though idk why you would, lmao

[polar spire]

Thats just one way of doing it, my primary playstyle is javelin forge strike

But forge strike VR will slaughter a boss in seconds

The main forge strike route also uses abyssal echoes for its dot increase and bleed pop

[obtuse perch]

Ohhh this might actually be very good for my ignite minion build once I get that ring.

[deft harness]

anyone knows if the divine bolt healing hands paladin is still a thing? wanted to play that before 1.1 nerf but didnt get the chance

[polar spire]

You'd have to search it up, but someone like a lil under a year ago made a fantastic bleed build with that one caster bleed off hand

[ionic spade]

much lower ward damage is similar

[obtuse perch]

You can make it a thing by running it.

[bright nest]

I'm sure they would have been able too yeah. I was just more interesting in the version you cooked up with MS and Smite since it looked fun

[polar spire]

I needa get the rogue falcon gloves, they're basically just better wing guards that allow crit

[obtuse perch]

Synergizes well witht his node.

[polar spire]

The rogue falcon gloves that give yourself and minions melee fire, and then the new ring

[obtuse perch]

Although now that I think about it.

[deft harness]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjKKb0Do and https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK0g5eNQ found these 2 variants, one proccing from healing hands the other from smite. Im a bit of a noob and dont know well which one would function better, can anyone give some advice?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (11) / Paladin (82)

General:

▸ Health: 3,612, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 293, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 102%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 20 Int / 68 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 179% / 110% / 110% / 68% / 89% / 72% / 68%
▸ EHP: 8,038 / 8,038 / 8,038 / 11,419 / 8,038 / 7,766 / 7,477

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 722
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,003)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Lunge (20)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Javelin (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (22)

Used unique items:

• Scales of Eterra
• Immolator's Oblation
• Ashes of Mortality
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (11) / Paladin (82)

General:

▸ Health: 3,434, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 570, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 147%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 7 Dex / 26 Int / 57 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 209% / 139% / 103% / 73% / 89% / 69% / 52%
▸ EHP: 5,944 / 5,944 / 5,944 / 7,124 / 5,944 / 5,581 / 4,832

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 687
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,462)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Smite (20)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Scales of Eterra
• Fingers of the Phantom Mire
• Immolator's Oblation
• Ashes of Mortality
• Ashes of Mortality
• Devotion
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

[obtuse perch]

Would the bleed converted to ignite even work for minions?

[polar spire]

With the new ring? Sounds like you'd have to test that

[brittle grove]

there is still no way to respecialize my mastery (i.e. from paladin to vk) , right? ( just asking in case i missed some patch notes)

[obtuse perch]

Or manifest armor

[wise rune]

nope still not possible

[polar spire]

Yea that'll prob never be a thing, they got a lot of flak for it on launch and didnt budge, so i'll assume it'll never happen

[waxen nymph]

99% sure it does

[obtuse perch]

Is it possible for nemesis to give more than one legendary mod?

[polar spire]

Hell you could do a masteryless run too! 😄

[brittle grove]

welp, time for break until next cycle then, ty for the answer ❤️

[polar spire]

Ive done that once, that was my only rive build that i got to 80
it was pain

[obtuse perch]

Don't you have to choose one as part of the campaign?

[polar spire]

Nope, because you're in the end of time regardless and can brute force the mono's

[obtuse perch]

As for respeccing mastery. Why not respec from mage to rogue while we're at it? 🤔

[polar spire]

If you were offline you could have, but yea, not online

[cosmic ivy]

so good item

[obtuse perch]

But you can't do the rest of the campaign right?

[solid forge]

They won't change mastery respec anyway, they want it tk be meaningful choice and are making a lot of QoL for alts

[polar spire]

Yea thats the downside, but i wasnt spending talent points at all, so all that really locked me out of was idol slots

Yea only way to do mastery respec is offline, since save is client side and theres programs that'll let you swap

[obtuse perch]

Either way I don't really think mastery being locked is a problem.

[polar spire]

Offlines fantastic for testing letools theorycrafted builds

[obtuse perch]

I mean if we're gonna do that, might as well make respeccing passives free. And make respeccing skills free. And also give you all the points from the start.

Maybe start you off at level 100?

Maybe let you pick out all of your items from a cupboard?

[sterile latch]

yeah i love getting a 100 like that offline for testing

[polar spire]

I mean, offline has programs that allow you to do everything you just said

Hence why its fantastic for testing theorycrafted builds

[solid forge]

Can definitively test builds offline lol

[sterile latch]

helps figure out a build is bugged lmao before spending 10 hours farming for it

[twilit valley]

Lucky day - lp4 palarus and a lp3 fire starter torch …

[polar spire]

I remember a buddy telling me about a program that let you straight up type in uniques, add the affixes you wanted on them, and print them out into your inventory, as well as change mastery freely and all that jazz

[solid forge]

What's a good amount of ignite stacks I should aim for on bosses? I'm at 350 currently.

[sterile latch]

I'm liking this cupboard idea tho

[twilit valley]

If I make a new character after getting this one to lvl 100’do I have to do all campaign again ?

[sterile latch]

no campaign skip offline but lots of shortcuts

[polar spire]

Yes
But you'll have keys and can do the dungeon skips
Also theres more quests that offer idols and talent points than the cap, so you can pick and choose which quests to do. Im sure theres a guide out there for dungeon skipping

[twilit valley]

Ok cool

[heavy yarrow]

how does Void knight stay alive? he has a lot of leech on his tree but all of his attacks have cooldowns, am i required to spec for cooldown reduction to not die?

[solid forge]

High armor goes well with leech

[obtuse perch]

But that's offline.

[polar spire]

Yes

[obtuse perch]

For testing, I'd assume.

[polar spire]

Also yes

Theorycrafted a build but dont know if its going to suck major balls? Test it in offline first

[solid forge]

VK is no different than the rest anyway, you still need to cancel crits, cap res, get some endurance and 2k+ HPs

[flat skiff]

60% Armor + 40% of which covers DoT, maxed resistances, 2.2k health, ~60% endurance, 500 endurance threshold (I wanna get this up), ~65% reduced damage taken from crits

That's just what I have atm, with VK leech I'm somewhat durable

[bright nest]

@polar spire have you tried thaty bleed version you cooked today?

[heavy yarrow]

yeah makes sense, was just confused for a sec because long cooldowns paired with leech seemed counter productive (and pal having healing hands with healing effectivness on his tree) but stacking more armor would likely make me not explode instantly

[polar spire]

All you want now, is more health, and 20% poison resist above max

[polar spire]

The forge strike one? Dog thats been my main build for years

[obtuse perch]

Also since you can save manip offline you can also skip campaign can't you? Just flag quests as finished, change your start location, flag waypoints, etc.

[polar spire]

Thats the build i do 5-10mill bleed pops with

[bright nest]

yeah with the smite and everything? how the hell do you do st lol

[polar spire]

Something tells me you dont understand how much damage forge strike bleed actually does

[obtuse perch]

How does forge strike relate to bleed?

[solid forge]

Apparently not enough to be on maxroll hahahah

[polar spire]

The build for the most part is mainly st, aoe is the part thats actually just a bonus

[polar spire]

Thank god, i hate maxroll

[obtuse perch]

You speak as if maxroll are the absolute authority on things.

[solid forge]

I was just joking anyway, it's nice to see excellent builds outside of the guides

[polar spire]

This old lady started on letools and stays on letools

[obtuse perch]

They're just a group of humans.

[flat skiff]

Oooh good point, forgot about poison res reduction. I'm aiming for 2.5k health and capping out crit resistance.

[solid forge]

They are cool and give out good ideas, I don't consider them an authority for anything, not even PoE. I do think Wudijo and Raxx are incredible on D4 though

[polar spire]

And if you still ever struggle with a one time specific boss mechanic dont neglect just throwing rebuke onto your bar purely for that mechanic, its an actual life saver

[solid forge]

Anyway, was just a joke, I didn't want to start a maxroll critic review haha

[bright nest]

I do not. I'm just checking the flow of the build and it seems all over the place with the way mana works on this build. I can't help but feel like taking the travel node from smite off lends itself to more FS manualy and automaticly

[solid forge]

I gotta go anyway. I'll try to update my current situation with DW FG MA/Warpath. Butter smooth to emp mono, but I need to fix the gearing and defenses now

[polar spire]

thats because the mana part is all over the place
At least in aoe on fat packs
On ST its completely fine, which is where its made for to begin with

[solid forge]

Seems I'll so need to emphasize ignite over crit as I can't seem to find a way to make warpath damage relevant at this point

[polar spire]

On ST, forge strike procced multistrikes ignore forge strike cooldown, so you can weave in additional forge strikes off cooldown for additional bleeding

[flat skiff]

If you're willing, what mechanic is that? Harby mechanic or dungeon?

[polar spire]

No idea, depends on you and your build, im just saying any mechanic at all in the future can be straight ignored with rebuke. So if there ever is a boss mechanic straight ripping you, just throw rebuke on

[bright nest]

Wonder if its better than the minion forge strike, it does look a lot better to play lol

[solid forge]

By the way, if anyone has an idea to turn Ravaging aura into fire as FG, I'm listening. I feel bad that part of Aberoth is not used currently

[polar spire]

It also just depends on how you want to play forge strike bleed
Theres like 50 different skill and gear combinations you can run that all work perfectly fine, as long as forge strike bleed is setup the way it is, but can also be partially set up differently

Like javelin has a node that reduces next melee mana cost by 25 and gives forge strike 60% more damage, you can make forge strike a ranged melee and kite enemies while rotating javelin and forge strike

That ones my most fave variant of bleed fs

[solid forge]

Lmao I would never have thought of that for bleed

[polar spire]

And you can even chuck HH in since it hits the target of a melee, so you're hitting enemies with both forge strike and HH from off screen LMAO

[solid forge]

That's nuts

[flat skiff]

At risk of sounding like a brown nose, thanks LE Sentinel chat! I've had a couple questions over this cycle and everyone's been super helpful

[bright nest]

eagle strike is an expensive haul for a bleed version

[meager cradle]

hi guys, last season i've played marksman and spellblade. I want try new class, i'm thinking shaman. Do you think's do high level will be difficult with this class?

[polar spire]

it very much is you need a loooot of + skill to make that one work right, luckily its really easy to get 30/20+ on forge strike

[bright nest]

this was my current plan, may go bleed
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXkW30EB

Especially because of the axe

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,555, Regen: 117/s
▸ Mana: 332, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 51 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 88 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 108% / 81% / 78% / 93% / 114% / 87% / 88%
▸ EHP: 9,891 / 9,891 / 9,891 / 17,495 / 9,891 / 9,891 / 9,891

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 711
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,099)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Ambition (20/20), Frenzy

Used skills:

• Forge Strike (37)
• Multistrike (31)
• Manifest Armor (27)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)
• Void Cleave (27)

Used unique items:

• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Sword Catcher
• Logi's Hunger
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Throne of Ambition

[polar spire]

You have a multitude of + skill weapons, logi's amulet gives +2 if you take the first middle right node on forge strike which makes the +2 count, its phys so thorn slinger works, if you run fs as fire, wings chest works, you've got the new rings for additional + skills, weavers will relic, and then you have +4 on chest as well

[bright nest]

blade catcher also has insane bleed% on it
so that should work out nicely too

[polar spire]

And you can run experimental frenzy boots and have its frenzy effect up 24/7

[bright nest]

can you get smite below 2

or does it also trigger on the smite without traveling beacuse that is funny if it works like that

[polar spire]

Lets see here, if i equip all + skill gear for forge strike, and set the rolls to max

You can get forge strike up to 40/20

[sterile latch]

the what how?

[simple raven]

so after extensive testing today for couple of hours, i found out why the ward sometimes dont spawn when i pass the threshold on boss HP

if Thorns/reflect dmg tips the boss hp from one side to the other without me actually hitting the boss, it will bypass the ward and not trigger it

this i believe is connected to why it wont stop elites healing with the affix "heal if not damaged recently". Thorns for some reason dosent count as damage, but as a straight deduction somehow to the mob (thus bypassing all DR, resistance etc. flat amount of dmg)

and activating the ward on boss HP is connected somehow to when the player "damages" the boss or "damage" pass the boss hp over the treshold, but since reflect isent classified as "damage" (theory, no confirmation) it nullifies the activation of the boss ward

do with that as u like 🙂

also because of this,when there are elites with auras that reduce dmg allies take within the aura, the other enemy units still take the full thorns damage. it does not get reduced by this aura

[bright nest]

thats the no smite version yeah

[upper fable]

does str scale forged weapons?

[simple raven]

yes

STR will scale em, and if u use any affix with minion in it, they will scale off minion physical, melee and area, but no other minion tag

[rigid dragon]

Im back a couple days later, any updates on void knight builds yet for new seasoin

[daring lion]

wait for real? I thought Forged Weapons only scale with Attunement, and the Forge Strike itself skill only STR.

[cosmic ivy]

hmm

[simple raven]

it seems u are indeed correct. it dosent say so straight up, but one can infer from the gains hp/dmg from attunement would point towards weapons scaling off attunement.

[daring lion]

yes, cuz attunement bad if str did everything you needed for the skill 😛

[simple raven]

thanks for making me double check 😄

[upper fable]

manifest armor is minion skill too but it has str scaling too, so not sure str for forged weapons may scale both

[naive yew]

,Hi, im running the bleed hammerdin from maxroll. I really dont understand how smite could add bleed stacks, am I missing something there?

[deft harness]

someone posted a 88% healing effectiveness 52% armor shred idol for 0 gold in the MG , i had just refreshed and was about to click buy and it got sniped

[simple raven]

using alt on skills u can see what scales. STR scaling on manifest armor only lists HP, not dmg

and if u dont hold alt skill on manifest armor u wouldnt know about its forge nova that it has 😄

[obtuse perch]

Strength scales only health for manifest armor, not damage.

In other news.

I just vaporized normal mode Rayeh. Normally he gives me trouble.

[turbid dome]

Nice

[twilit valley]

I’m curious what i should slam this with .. like I’m a caster smite but you can’t add cast rate to swords I don’t think ..

[obtuse perch]

I don't think so, but you can add flat spell damage.

[twilit valley]

Yep

[turbid dome]

Idk but damn Grats on the 4lp

[obtuse perch]

This seems like a sword that can be used in two ways.

Either melee smite procs, or manual smite casts, both are enhanced.

[twilit valley]

Sphere relic with int and attunement 50+each will give me a faster cast with this

[obtuse perch]

Although it doesn't have to be a manual melee hit.

[twilit valley]

Might have to think about my build now

[obtuse perch]

So stuff like counterattacks from that node that nobody ever uses can also proc it.

[twilit valley]

I won’t use it for melee

I don’t like melee tbh .. played rive and caster feels way better

[obtuse perch]

To each their own.

You have a lot of legendaries already. You've been burning the midnight oil.

[twilit valley]

Also melee only got me to like 900c where caster took me to 2k

[obtuse perch]

I'm not even at 100c yet.

[twilit valley]

Oh last patch

[obtuse perch]

Literally just beat Rayeh. XD

[twilit valley]

Now only 200-300c this update . I’m more focused on arbor runs now trying to get the armor

[past trellis]

What’s the benefit in making void cleave transversal? Does the tag help with cooldown from gear?

[twilit valley]

No armor but this is nice for now

[polar spire]

So im messin around with beastmaster primalist aspect of the shark + event horizon and uhhhh... Hmmm.... 8000% phys damage

Thats actually stronger than when i messed with 6000% aftershocks

And aftershocks double dipped, whew, event horizon gon be nasty on so many setups

[cosmic ivy]

insane

[turbid dome]

[tardy siren]

Kazaktar barma wws

[random python]

What's the fastest way to add corruption this season? Glyphs of Envy? This is like a well guarded secret in the game, and it's pretty annoying. lol

[cosmic ivy]

needles

push 1 harbinger to very high corruption

[random python]

oh, ok. The things harbingers drop.

[cosmic ivy]

yeah u get 4 gaze from 1 normal boss with needle

and later on 5

[ashen ether]

is it normal while i use shield rush it not regen my mana?

[random python]

It's confusing because the side quest marker doesn't appear on the timeline that i have at 150 corruption? So do i do another one, or keep going?

Don't have to answer, i'm just a little annoyed. lol :0

[turbid dome]

do you have more mana regen then shield rush consumes per second?

[waxen nymph]

Shield Rush doesn't allow you to regen mana (I don't think they changed this one)

[final cedar]

is it me or is healing hand's ward generation kinda bad?

[turbid dome]

wait really

dang

[waxen nymph]

I am not at my computer rn but I don't even think it has a channel cost

[turbid dome]

I never realized that

[waxen nymph]

^^

[waxen nymph]

It got nerfed and fixed because it was crack op broken over the top

So not sure how it is

Do you have a lot of Att + Heal Effect + missing Health > Ward affix?

[glass bolt]

are there any sentinel builds that doesn't take ages to kill bosses now?

[turbid dome]

are you using volatile reversal

[dark field]

I hate that answer lolol

[glass bolt]

Im playing Ballista falcon, just asking if Sentinel are good now 🙂

[turbid dome]

hey I dont like using it either, but like 100% more damage is 100% more damage or whatever the math says

[waxen nymph]

If you comparison is Falconer than no

[glass bolt]

I guess that answers it xD thanks

[waxen nymph]

Sentinel has good builds, that are fair given their gear investment

Falconer is way too strong for the gear it requires

[dark field]

The decision between forge strike and Smelters Wrath is tough

[final cedar]

i have all the pieces yeah, atk speed, heal effect, and the missing health into ward affix. im sure i could squeeze more percentages out of it, but it just seems really bad considering the amount of effort required

[glass bolt]

so by starting with Falconer I might've built myself off playing other builds? x_x

[final cedar]

i was regularly getting 10k ward last cycle without even trying, but now i cant even reliably get 1k even with full healing effect idols + draining health + ward gen on hit

[waxen nymph]

Sound about right

[waxen nymph]

You might have spoiled yourself indeed

[final cedar]

Rip the dream. might have to completely rebuild my character then

[glass bolt]

so what are some great sentinel builds now then? any that can beat abberoth?

[sterile latch]

I'm guessing every class can beat him

[cosmic ivy]

im done

[sterile latch]

people were saying earlier u can shield bash him to death through permastun

[glass bolt]

I mean with low investment sorry & acceptable timeframe

[arctic bay]

Anyone has a nice shield bash build for forge guard?

[unborn owl]

it becomes the best movement ability for a Sentinel if you click that node

[cosmic ivy]

bro 😭 i didnt see the platform position, never saw this fight

[crisp ice]

The maxroll guide is kinda the way to go for pure shield bash. It's really just stack strength and block effectiveness.

[cosmic ivy]

bro LOL

[turbid dome]

you did not go quietly into that good night

[cosmic ivy]

ok man i died again, this time it did a melee attack 😭

maybe i should watch a video

[spring niche]

any1 know any good void beam builds?

[turbid dome]

ok the camera changing as you walk up to the big portal thing is sick, + a closer look a the chronowyrm is sick

I do also like that is basically just the fogotten knight's house

[sterile latch]

I dropped the new axe shield but don't have the other 3 uniques lol. Guess I'll wait for nemesis to maybe egg it and hope for lp

[polar spire]

Oooo lala found a fun build for the void cleave scepter + shield throw shield >:D

[dark field]

Okay. I might be cookin. Event Horizon Mace with Vengeance for all the weird procs it has built in

[polar spire]

Better get that vengeance 25% AS

So one thing i dont think people noticed about that void cleave scepter

[old trench]

been messing around with forge gaurd this patch, how come talents and items that increase amount of forge weapons can't exceed 6?

[polar spire]

Ok so void cleave scepter made void cleave "instant" but like, VC's already instant
This actually makes it so you can now Void Cleave during Warpath

[dark field]

Yep.

[untold sky]

dream lives lol

[turbid dome]

beefy

[polar spire]

Grab the shield throw shield, run paladin, and use ALL fire skills: Warpath, Void Cleave, Shield Throw, Abyssal Echoes, Smite

[untold sky]

I am forge guard for ring of shields

[polar spire]

Build can legit go both crit AND dot and do both well as a hybrid

[untold sky]

but I am starting to think maybe I was wrong :3

[old trench]

tilted i cant get more than 6 forge weapons even with plus 3, plus 2 and plus 4

[daring lion]

Nah FG is fine. Stacking Block Effectiveness and easily reaching 100 block chance and free Armor makes you tough to kill

[untold sky]

Should I ignore threshold?

[daring lion]

I'm sorry, what do you mean Threshold?

[untold sky]

endurance/endruance threshold

[dark field]

You definitely should be able to.

[daring lion]

If hardcore no. Can ignore for softcore. Just hit Armor cap and Res cap. 3k health sounds safe enough. More health better of course

[untold sky]

There is an armour cap ?

[night rock]

are there any builds that use these 2 items, either alone or separate that would be considered strong? (palarus on the left, aurelis on the right)

[turbid dome]

multi strike with smite?

[daring lion]

Yes, 85%. I don't know the amount of Armor needed though

[daring lion]

Multistrike Paladin sounds good for this

[untold sky]

Cool umm also what would be a best 4th state on boots here? armour and crit damage reduc? Sorry I was always a mage or rogue so I know nothing on tanks xD

[turbid dome]

health?

[untold sky]

Ez enough :3

[wise rune]

fire smite warpath with just palarus is incredible, and multistrike lightning smite with both would be fantastic

[untold sky]

hybrid or pure?

[daring lion]

Hybrid always best, but add both if possible.

[wise rune]

hybrid

[turbid dome]

if your finding stuff like that, hybrid

[night rock]

can you help a brother out here in what it would scale with on paladin tree? so i can try to not fail in building it

[daring lion]

Feels like an Attunement build. Since Smite and Healing Hands scale with that stat.

Then add Javelin with the support mode that auto smites in a radius as a flag buff machine

[night rock]

you know what, im gonna try it. what's the worst that happens! when you make an alt, do you have to go through the campaign again? or is there a skip

[daring lion]

Actually forget Multistrike and cast Smite directly, gives you an additional skill slot for Sigil or Volatile Reversal lol

[untold sky]

thanks for the advice guys btw 🙂

[wise rune]

the devotion amulet is really good for scaling lightning smite

[untold sky]

any other uniques I should look at for a shield bash, shield throw, shield ring, healing hands, sigil fire build? beyond the 1h axe shield and sideons

[daring lion]

The biggest change from Rogue or Mage to Sentinel, is that in Sentinel, the implicit stats of gears are enough to cover a lot of defensive holes in your stat sheets. They also have the unique attribute of using armor for DoT damage reduction.

[turbid dome]

man I love RNG, I threw a chaos gylph at cold res and it turned into hp

[untold sky]

wasnt that an experimental ?

[turbid dome]

theres gloves + chest armor with them as implicits + the weaver sentinel relic gives a bunch

plus sentinel uses it the best due to beefy armor stat

[untold sky]

huh okay good to know, guess I will try get that on my gloves

[turbid dome]

its the eternal gloves base I think, whichever is the highest level glove base

[daring lion]

@untold sky

[untold sky]

Would that really be better for a fire build over the fire implicit lvl 68 armour?

[turbid dome]

700 base armor is unethical, the armor to dot is a bonus

[daring lion]

Yes. You don't need overkill damage later on. You need to not die the later you are in the corruption level

[untold sky]

I mean this

I guess I shall hunt down ther fancy one then ;3

[daring lion]

Id take the DoT mitigation over Fire Damage anyday

If arguing about Implicits

[untold sky]

I mean fair

[turbid dome]

look at your character sheet, how much increased fire damage do you got

[cosmic ivy]

damn final boss is to hard with melee abilities

[turbid dome]

arpg gaming

[untold sky]

hahaha nothing almost atm because I am using The last bear set at lvl 78 xD

[past trellis]

Sure, but that node alone just changes it to “transversal” does that lead to any benefits in cooldown or distance traveled down the line?

[turbid dome]

ok get increased fire damage and go for the champ armor

wait like actually none from your tree?

[wise rune]

i have 1060% increased fire damage nice

[untold sky]

hmm lets acually look, its 104 to 257 atm lol

spwent last 2 days target farming sigeons so the rest of my build has fallen way behind lol

[turbid dome]

ah

[unborn owl]

what do you mean? it does exactly what it says it does

[daring lion]

Reading is hard for arpg players ok 😦

[unborn owl]

it becomes a longer dash and has a longer cooldown

[turbid dome]

and when fighting a boss or something just click it next to you and you dont move

[unborn owl]

^which is sometimes actually good when playing a tank character like Ravaging Aura that uses Void Cleave as a part of its damage rotation

[cosmic ivy]

finally

[dark field]

Okay Vengeance with Event Horizon prob would be cool. But man you gotta scale some attack speed lol

[turbid dome]

gotta find some more attack speed

[dark field]

Anything that turns armor into damage?

[daring lion]

Equipment or Skill Tree specific?

[dark field]

I guess both?

[turbid dome]

multi strike has a node that gives damage based on your armor, I don't think theres any other?

[cosmic ivy]

how much armor is good

[daring lion]

85% is cap. Try for that as close as you can

[bleak breach]

is there a way to preview blessings? like what all a certain mono can give? on reg not empowered

[daring lion]

Thornmail on Forge Guard skill tree. Scales off Armor Mitigation %

Equipment, I'm not aware of any atm

[glass bolt]

Warpath vs Hammer throw guys?

[cosmic ivy]

im hitting training dummy for 3m now

[waxen nymph]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/timelines

[bleak breach]

thanks!

[wise rune]

i prefer the gameplay of warpath and its much easier to build as it doesnt require specific idols but hammer throw seems to be stronger atm

[fast grotto]

heyo sentinels. I didnt get thechance to read through all of the 1.1 patchnotes yet, is there a chance that a forged blades army build is viable this season ?

[random python]

i went hammer throw, and struggled for about 75 levels before i got idols, and some pieces.

It's great now though. lol

[daring lion]

It's one of the hot flavours. The question is more of, which variant is the best? :)) I don't expect it to be broken like other builds tho. But definitely superior in a lot of ways compared to 1.0

[naive yew]

is there a way to make smite apply bleed?

[fast grotto]

nice thats good to hear, I love the little glying dudes

[wise rune]

theres a new unique ring that allows glove stats to apply to forged weapons and forge guard in general got some pretty nice buffs

[fast grotto]

Ive wanted to go for a semi afk warpath spawning blades build since release xd

Guess ill be trying that out then, sounds awesome! Thanks yall :)

[glass bolt]

So pally would be the safest bet on my spec?

[daring lion]

Perfect. warpath + forge wep + ring of shields work. I prefer it being an ignite stacker more than a crit build this way. Since your shields can apply fire dot.

Crit is a different way to build so see which flavor suits you friend. Good luck!

[dark field]

👍🏻

[fast grotto]

so im guessing youre also playing with a 1H + shield then ? Ive seen some nodes that look to buff 2 handed weapons with forge weapons though, no ?

[ebon patrol]

so has anyone figured out the optimal way to build for minions? crit damage? raw damage?

[daring lion]

I mean sure, you get 70% more chance to proc on a 2hander. But that's only on yourself. Doesn't matter when you have 20 shields and 12 weapons at 70% already

[waxen nymph]

Whats Raw Dmg ?

[fast grotto]

Thats a good point xD

[ebon patrol]

as in just stacking more added damage, % multipliers etc

for example, the difference between using an odachi and an obsidian axe

one has super high crit boost the other has higher base damages and minion boosting

[obtuse perch]

TIL you can just access your stash if you find an egg on a nemesis.

[waxen nymph]

Oh! Hit based is always better as Crit

[obtuse perch]

Singularity gaming.

[fast grotto]

is there any downside to starting as a hardcore character btw ?

[obtuse perch]

You die in the game you die in real life. That's the only downside.

[daring lion]

Uh yes. the despair and sadness of death.

[ebon patrol]

so the crit damage stacking will always win out in terms of dps?

[ebon patrol]

if you live in Canada you still need to die again before you hit real life

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt share your SC stashes, what ever you loot in HC stays in HC. If you die you go to SC and dont have access to whats left in HC

[obtuse perch]

I mean, crit damage is a more modifier that you can stack through gear.

[wise rune]

when you die and become a regular character you lose access to your hardcore stash and keep only whats equipped to you and in your inventory

[daring lion]

Yuh. No way raw flats will ever beat crit given stat roll limitations

[obtuse perch]

So like, I can see singularity gaming only being a thing if you somehow have a hit based build that cannot generate enough crit chance to matter.

[waxen nymph]

Yes, because Crit Multi is just that strong
Baseline is 100% More Dmg

There are no real pay off to go non crit

[turbid dome]

if you could stack sigularity idols maybe?

[obtuse perch]

Which you can't.

[ebon patrol]

so anyone got ideas on the ideal gloves to use with the phantom grips if going odachi? some were just using the solar bracers for the crit rate boost but it feels lijke there should be a good unique for this

[waxen nymph]

Do not stack and dont affect Forged Weapons any way

[obtuse perch]

But if you could. Idk.

[turbid dome]

yeah

[waxen nymph]

Falcon Fists

It double dips and give so much stats

[ebon patrol]

falcon fists? isn't that just some attack speed and a bit of base fire damage?

[wise rune]

the base fire damage applies to you and your minions so the minions get it twice

[daring lion]

Sounds like stuff you want for Gloves for Forge Weapons and Manifest Armor 😄

[past trellis]

What we have here is a failure in my reading comprehension. Ty.

[ebon patrol]

attack speed is great yea but BiS over all other options? and the added flat damage is not really relevant at higher levels, you getl ike 50 or so flat fitre damage when you are already doing like hundreds

meanwhile voidstriking your weapons gives them like 250 a shot

[wise rune]

flat is still relevant at higher levels

[feral sparrow]

I don't think there is just double checking. There isn't a node to give Smite a buff tag correct?

[ebon patrol]

I mean it's not nothing just curious if it'd truly be BiS

especially when you can have stuff like gloves that can give your weapons like 40% more crit rate to abuse Odachi

[daring lion]

If with Void Cleave buff you mean for Forge Weapons, then yes you can. But I will agree that I don't like to call it BiS.

[wise rune]

you'd want it with some LP but its quite a good base

[ebon patrol]

which is kinda what I mean. if we assume for example your weapon is odachi and thus you're trying to abuse that high crit damage modifier, what would be probably the ideal gloves to take the stats off of with grips

[waxen nymph]

81 flat and 81% AS and 2-3 lp is achievable

[ebon patrol]

so it's been confirmed that 2 grips def double dips?

[flat skiff]

Dang Titan Heart just boosted my health from 2.2 to 2.7k

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[bleak breach]

any good unique gloves for warpath leech void knight?

[ebon patrol]

I do kinda wonder if one could abuse wing guards on something like a raw damage ignite/bleed armor shred stacker

i'm assuming the weapons take the "can't crit" thing

[waxen nymph]

Dreamthorn

[turbid dome]

thats a sword

[bleak breach]

haha i thought the name looked familiar! i actually used that for the majority of my leveling

[waxen nymph]

Oh! Sorry read too quickly

[bleak breach]

no worries lol

[ebon patrol]

actually if the grips does double dip, that means Salt the wound actually gives huge crit damage multiplier right?

[turbid dome]

@bleak breach I'd personally aim for an experimental eternal gauntlets with the armor applies to dot affix

[worldly viper]

can anyone point me in a direction to a good endgame void knight build

[bleak breach]

oh i've passed up on so many of those... is it actually good?

[turbid dome]

eternal gauntlets gets it as their implicit, killing an exiled mage can have it drop with an experimental affix that provides even more armor applies to dot

its great because sentinel gets a lot of armor so dots stop just instantly draining your hp

[daring lion]

I browsed through the options on LastEpoch tools for a unique base. Raven's Rise for resistances, Rise of the Simoon for Fire Pen, Burning Avarice if you need leech, and my personal choice assuming it works as I hope for, Salt the Wound.

[turbid dome]

it would look like this

[bleak breach]

that's an area of my build i need to work on asap, i only have 1k armor, i'll start lookin into that thanks!

[turbid dome]

what level are you?

[ebon patrol]

my only question on Salt the wound is how does that conversion work on the weapons. like would you be losing some of your crit modifier to it or does it only trigger if say, you use poison

[turbid dome]

cause if you need armor, these two bases give you basically all the base armor you could want, then have a good amount of strength to %boost your armor

[bleak breach]

78 rn

[daring lion]

Yeah your right. Not worth it since we don't naturally cause Poison as FG. Unless you use that 1h axe + Shield 2pc set lol

[untold sky]

Hmm wait a minute.. shields from ring of shield may be nice to bounce my shields but they cannot be used to rpoc the throws and so in a way bad for me

[bleak breach]

same question for anything other than chest, got a few ascendance runes to burn

[still plinth]

Does Faith save you from oneshots? (from Sigil of hope)

[turbid dome]

watching my echo smack a harbringer for 20% of thier max hp is fun

[bleak breach]

i really like the echos, they look cool, are cool, and are purple

[turbid dome]

Fighting any void boss, on vk, with the forgotten knight’s cosmetics on is purple overload

[bleak breach]

no such thing as too much purple 😂

[turbid dome]

Good point, that’s why I got two purple pets 👍

Man I love purple

[bleak breach]

do pets follow you 24/7 or only in towns, i may have to look into getting a purple pet haha

[turbid dome]

They follow you 24/7

[polar juniper]

is anyone playing shield bash
Curious what level I should swap from forge strike to Shield Bash.

[lament umbra]

why does there feel like such little support for straight HIT warpath? Like im just trying to spin around killing similar to brutality cyclone in POE

even Fire warpath would be nice

[turbid dome]

Any hit build is going to be scale crit as much as possible

Void knight can echo warpaths for basically multiple of you warpathing at once

[dark field]

I wish Smelters Wrath had like a charming animation

[bleak breach]

should i put move speed or attack speed first in priority?

[turbid dome]

What’s your current move speed?

[bleak breach]

31%

[turbid dome]

Attack speed? Also what’s your main skill

[bleak breach]

34% and warpath

[turbid dome]

Probably move speed then

[south zephyr]

How viable is smite warpath pally before you get the idols and vortex pennant to scale via throwing?

I'm just clearing campaign with one and it seems okay but just okay

[obtuse perch]

Was there always a way to skip the Liath fight in Ending the Storm?

[cosmic ivy]

so much dmg

[twilit valley]

So 2 players - 1 dmg 1 healer ?

Sucks to solo I guess ..

[waxen nymph]

??

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[heady bramble]

Does the Sturdy Shields node in the Ring of Shields tree affect us or just our allies?

[waxen nymph]

You are your own ally

[heady bramble]

Okay, thanks! Couldn't test it for myself yet.

[waxen nymph]

Its a rule in LE, unless stated in the node you are your own ally

[heady bramble]

Gotcha. Thanks again.

[jagged cosmos]

? Warpath is fine

vk warpath is great, just not as great as imbalanced mage class

[sterile latch]

Is it still runemaster dominating? I saw most guides were for sorc at least

[turbid dome]

sorc has earned a cycle in the sun, after being meh at best for a while

[jagged cosmos]

It's sorc, but alot of is tied to ward being lolbusted still

That's not to say other classes don't have good builds, it's just Sorc is like in another stratosphere

[quiet hearth]

alright, the gods have decided to let me live and Im about to use that time to make my builds everyones problem

[jagged cosmos]

Like I haven't seen one person really abuse the new sceptre yet and I'm pretty sure it's lolbusted

[quiet hearth]

which one?

[turbid dome]

I'd guess this one

[jagged cosmos]

that one, abberoth's command

[quiet hearth]

Oh that one, yeah, that's gonna be pretty good I feel.

[jagged cosmos]

void cleave being instant means you can use it while warpathing

[turbid dome]

make a build using the full gasper set (:<

[quiet hearth]

do not doubt the power of my memes engi

[jagged cosmos]

I'm pretty sure fire cleave/warpath dual wield is hellah juicy

[daring lion]

fire void cleave? you need a 2hander for void cleave tho

[sly meteor]

sceptre removes req

[quiet hearth]

Oh this would be easy actually

[sly meteor]

this is something ive worked on so far

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olY2wXnA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (67) / Forge Guard (9) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,892, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 212, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 8 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 78% / 78% / 66% / 52% / 92% / 66%
▸ EHP: 8,183 / 8,183 / 8,183 / 13,432 / 6,626 / 8,183 / 7,473

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 693
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,297)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 27%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Inspiration, Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis, Warpath

Used skills:

• Sigils Of Hope (22)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Void Cleave (24)
• Smite (21)
• Warpath (24)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Shattered Chains
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Paranoia

[quiet hearth]

like, you wouldn't be pushing high corruption but I can see a build with this tbh

[jagged cosmos]

it's better to convert to fire

you can pick the warpath node that lets you double dip on bonuses

[quiet hearth]

the ravaging aura doesnt convert to fire

[sly meteor]

^

[jagged cosmos]

you don't care about ravaging aura, you care about the instant cleave and aoe

[tidal fulcrum]

When does Holy Trail leveling fall off?

[quiet hearth]

which is a travesty imo

I care about the aura, and it cares about me

[jagged cosmos]

you either scale dot or you scale hit / crit

and imo the hit/crit is alot better

[winged pulsar]

Or you scale vitality and run void

[quiet hearth]

I dont care about better, I care about the memes

[jagged cosmos]

yeah you could run straight void hit based

[quiet hearth]

it's a shame you cant dual wield the sceptres though, 100% void pen would be amazing

[jagged cosmos]

cyclone of war 2 gucci with fire dual wield though since you get base crit and fire pen

[quiet hearth]

hey engi you want a build planner for that set?

[winged pulsar]

Ya that node is insane

[jagged cosmos]

This is dr3ad's build for it, Paladin https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrOJ6M5o

[winged pulsar]

My warpath pally farming at 600c. Pretty happy with it since I don’t have to hit buttons

Lvling FG and VK today. Have 3lp palarus and firestarters torch. Hit lvl 16 and go brrr

[bleak breach]

wait this is like perfect for my build lol, no clue this thing existed

[jagged cosmos]

siph of anguish one of the best rings in the game

[turbid dome]

it feels cursed seeing an exalted sealed affix

[sly meteor]

yeah im abusing a ton of on hit effects in my build doom and smite and other things like time rot (tearing chunks out of bosses atm and not even geared out)

nem was the best thing to happen to sealed imo

[quiet hearth]

I didnt even know exalted affixes COULD seal

[winged pulsar]

Nemesis is a nice addition

[sly meteor]

its great to craft, but nem is the only way to get exalted sealed

yeah i just wish there was a pointer or something to the bodies lol

[turbid dome]

nemisus is funny

[obtuse perch]

Sadge

[quiet hearth]

So, with the gaspar set, is each of the dmg types gonna proc decimate on it's own cd?

[obtuse perch]

I mean I was expecting something random, but these stats are dogpoo.

[quiet hearth]

time for ignite hammer throw

[obtuse perch]

I wonder if someone out there will put down some gold for this.

Like any amount is fine lol

[quiet hearth]

I would if I wasnt gonna have to spend WAY too much on scaling like....9 different dots

[obtuse perch]

Wym 9 different dots?

[turbid dome]

damn it had my first death cause I lagged from frost elementals ;-;

[obtuse perch]

Wait

Now that I think about it. I have died only once in the entirety of this playthrough.

I also got this one tho.

Might be time for me to revive spark spellblade XD

[quiet hearth]

it's a shame warpath doesnt keep the fire tag if you also take the void one

[turbid dome]

you can grab future strike from the vk tree

[quiet hearth]

that is DEEP in the tree though

[turbid dome]

wouldn't call it thaatt deep its the 0/10 there

[quiet hearth]

I am also not a VK

[turbid dome]

abyssal endurance and devouring blade would work, to get ya too it but it is a lot of points

[quiet hearth]

I tend to shy away from conditionals

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[turbid dome]

on one hand yeah, on the other things die a lot

[waxen nymph]

Unfortunately no Cold Skill on Sentinel

[quiet hearth]

oh that was for another meme

the leech could come in handy tho

[wise rune]

Do indirect casts count for gaspar?

[obtuse perch]

Ok so I also vaporized normal mode Lagon. And without any traversal too.

[waxen nymph]

No

[orchid juniper]

are there any busted ways to scale throwing damage with uniques or is that basically weapon-agnostic? Trying to plan out weapon upgrades for my shield throw forge guard and aside from like a bit of % damage there're not many affixes here worth a damn

[wise rune]

Unfortunate otherwise you could use the new spear with holy trail javelin to get lightning + cold Gaspar procs off of javelin

[ancient bridge]

Do alts get waypoints?

[wise rune]

No

[turbid dome]

they do get to join the item factions early (assuming you've reach them on a different character)

[orchid juniper]

that's less helpful than it sounds, though, since favor gain is based on xp

[turbid dome]

yeah

[tribal basin]

For single Target , get the node where the shield can ricochet from allies , also Bob will be your best friend for that

[wise rune]

It allows you to use faction tagged items and get faction bonuses early

Faction rank is shared between characters

[quiet hearth]

not lookin good for rive in this set up

[chrome umbra]

Anyone playing smite idols this patch? The 10 per 2 seconds limit feels brutal compared to the old 36% unlimited chance

[winged pulsar]

The idols are great

Enables more builds. If you’re overcapping then use less idols

[vagrant bone]

void hammerdin lowkey slaps lol

[quiet hearth]

i legit dont think rive can keep up with multistrike for stacking dots

[waxen nymph]

YES !!!

[polar juniper]

is there a dps tooltip for Forged Weapons? i.e. if I change the weapon my player is using, I want to see the estimate of DPS impact, with several factors such as dmg over time, minion dmg ove rtime, chance to ignite/bleed, etc...

[violet seal]

What build is this?

[vagrant bone]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbzxyrbQ working on something like this lol with the new void cleave weapon when i drop it till then i run a 2h sword or axe to use void cleave to apply rav aura lol

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (72) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,414, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 137, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 8 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 82% / 109% / 96% / 101% / 117% / 68%
▸ EHP: 13,335 / 13,335 / 13,335 / 21,378 / 13,335 / 13,335 / 12,405

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 683
▸ Armor Mitigation: 67% (5,628)
▸ Block Chance: 67%, Mitigation: 48% (1,897)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Volatile Reversal (23)
• Anomaly (21)
• Sigils Of Hope (21)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Singularity

[quiet hearth]

@turbid dome

[turbid dome]

nice beacon

[quiet hearth]

now to get some overleech

just casually leeching hundreds of thousands

I have zero idea what to do with this

[turbid dome]

slam onto a 1 lp helm and hope it hits the smelters?

[quiet hearth]

I dont think even I can meme hard enough to make smelters work

[dark field]

My Smelters Event Horizon doing well

[quiet hearth]

no, even horizon is doing well, that thing will make any hit based build work

[dark field]

Lol. fair enough. But Smelters gets rid of the downside of Event Horizon

[quiet hearth]

the AS part, not the movement part

[waxen nymph]

Would be extra nice on Rive Lacerate 👀 For some Extra Meme Power

[quiet hearth]

lol, it takes you a year to swing three times but by george when you do

Im assuming you went full crit with smelters?

[dark field]

Correct. I basically Healing Hands charge, forge strike, sigil, charge Smelters

[heavy yarrow]

man Void Knight has too many fun skills, its too hard to choose which ones to build around

void smite sadly doesnt really feel right so im looking if Erasing strike might be a better skill to build around, tho thats seems very single target and not good for clear (also mana intensive)

[dark field]

Erasing Strike Event Horizon is obv good

[ancient bridge]

get the new axe

[dark field]

That thing is crazy too lol

[heavy yarrow]

world splitter?

[ancient bridge]

ES clear becomes screen wide

[heavy yarrow]

i got a 0lp one with a low roll tho sadly like +0,3% crit i think

[inner valley]

Im smite hammerdin paladin (is there a way to make it autocast or something fun like that?

[marsh bronze]

are smite holy hand build still OP?

with insane barrier amounts

[heavy yarrow]

iirc isnt there an idol to make it cast on hammer, tho you probably have it already if its the maxroll one

[inner valley]

i have the chance to smite thing

[coarse furnace]

For the forgeguards out there are you guys using warpath or multistrike in between forge smash

[wise rune]

No the ward was massively nerfed

[heavy yarrow]

if you mean autocast throwing attacks to proc smite, wouldnt Riverbend Grasp work?

or pillagers gold

[quiet hearth]

ok, adjustment to the meme build for now, because fml those void items are expensive

[inner valley]

I can try that, will let you know thanks!

[heavy yarrow]

do note that both have a cooldown of 1 second so you wont get a lot of procs that way

altough it is some extra procs or afk procs

[summer moss]

How bad is it to have 8% fire red in empowered mono?

I’m switching from Rive to Devouring orb, so need to full change gear, and the new one has only 8% fire res lol

[inner valley]

I tried with that but its for axe not hammer

[heavy yarrow]

the axe is a throwing attack is it not?

the idol makes throwing attacks proc smite, not only hammers

[inner valley]

Yes, but when i looked it up with it says (Spells that will get additional throws is axe throw)

[orchid juniper]

you will take like 1.7x fire damage dropping from cap to 8% fire res, it's less brutal than failing to res cap in certain other arpgs but still hurts like hell

[inner valley]

Im not 2 sure ab this, so i can't say 100%

[heavy yarrow]

btw axe thrower in the sentinel tree would also proc it assume

axe throw is a throwing attack and counts as a hit so i dont see why it wouldnt work

[lucid crag]

the phys pen in shurikens doesn't get turned into lightning pen if you swap right

[summer moss]

Oh that’s not that bad. Once I find my catalyst and 2nd ring I’ll swap. Most likely around level 85 ig lol

[quiet hearth]

time to slam this empower boys

[inner valley]

Yeah i dont know. But it didn't throw any extra things when i tried it

[waxen nymph]

Try asking in #🔪┃rogue 😉

[marsh bronze]

Wait is the DW shield build a meme or actually good i alwasy waned to do that in video games

[quiet hearth]

It's pretty good

[waxen nymph]

Good with Shield Bash ^^

[marsh bronze]

yeah i saw its for Forge Guard

so FG is good now?

[quiet hearth]

fg eatin good this patch

[marsh bronze]

aweeesome

[lucid crag]

wrong chat

[polar juniper]

I'm not seeing anywhere that multistrike would proc healing hands?....

[waxen nymph]

Cleric Hammer inside HH tree

[quiet hearth]

HH has a node to turn it into a melee attack and trigger on hits

[tacit zealot]

would this add more to the div bolts node in HH also providing HH costs 0 mana??

or is it a single extra bolt?

[waxen nymph]

I believe I tested it... Cant remember

[glass bolt]

Guys I need help, Im at the point where I need to choose a spec... Which spec should I go for if Im planning to play warpath/hammer throw?

[waxen nymph]

Spec? Mastery ?

[tacit zealot]

vk

[waxen nymph]

Give me 10 minutes and I will test it again. If I have the idols somewhere

[tacit zealot]

no rush, you dont even need to test if you dont wanna im just curious. with HH proccing div bolts every cast this wouldnt really do much unless i heavily invest into more which reduces my healing effectiveness

[vernal jay]

Hey, after thinking with a friend for some time about voidknight, we couldn't really find any build that really made it seem good like minion FG or lightning Paladin? Is that intended?

[tacit zealot]

id say VK is sentinels better mastery for builds vs the others

[orchid juniper]

what? void knight is hella strong with a variety of direct hit-based builds and can also do solid dots

[vernal jay]

Rly? I was just looking around skill interactions and stuff and nothing really jumped the eye...

[orchid juniper]

there's a ton of power in echoed casts, especially with some of the idol affixes

[quiet hearth]

🪤

[ancient bridge]

Erasing Strike is legit the core VK skill and it cooks

[ebon patrol]

gonna be honest minon FG feels strong af right now. I'm having the same experience playing minion Fg as I did last season playing stuff like wraithlord necro or arrowmine rouge. seems high tier tbh

[orchid juniper]

traversal void cleave>guaranteed erasing strike crits was one of the first builds I cleared empowered monos with

[tacit zealot]

i personally dislike vk primarily because im not a fan of melee but ill still admit VK is best sentinel mastery

[simple raven]

disgusting! everyone know FG is best! 😄

[tacit zealot]

pfft....peasant healing hands pally is the best XD

[ebon patrol]

I honestly think it might be becoming unironically true. people are legit not really understanding how strong forged weapons are with the new rings and changes

[orchid juniper]

vk effectively has two more damage multipliers as it's class mastery bonus

[simple raven]

no worries about that, im playing thorns FG, so im bottom of the barrel regardless 😄

[sour elk]

Echoes are a 20-30% more multiplier for anything that can trigger them, and give extra hits for ailments and such. And anomaly is great for basically any build

[sterile latch]

We'll know in a few weeks what's strong when the blasters start putting out tierlists. That is if they're still playing

I feel like fg has a cap because it's hard to get crit multiplier for minions and it doesn't have the near infinite scaling of old wraithlord. They also can eventually get killed by mobs since there's infinite mob dmg scaling.

[nimble mantle]

damn, just got this for my Rive Void Knight 😄 Insane dmg now.

[heavy yarrow]

does Righteous Overload on the smite tree also convert to void when the node is taken?

[ebon patrol]

I'v gotten like 300% already just from like 2 pieces of gear and I'm not even forging yet

there are some gloves that really let you stack it

[quiet hearth]

have you ever checked an equipment slot and realized you've been uh, not paying attention?

[heavy yarrow]

absolutely (also with skill slots)

[quiet hearth]

i am lvl 76

[waxen nymph]

So you get 1 Bolt

[simple raven]

i see nothing wrong here, just BIS 😄

[heavy yarrow]

had a pal where i forgot to put my holy aura into my skill bar till like level 90 Monos (i specced it the entire campaign)

[quiet hearth]

I swear my brain is oatmeal

[tacit zealot]

good to know, thanks

[waxen nymph]

Imo you would rather have Heal Effect Idols

[marsh bronze]

What is the OP fotm sentinel build this patch? I know last time it was healing hands due to ward

[waxen nymph]

26 % chance to get 1 extra bolts is kinda bad

[sterile latch]

I think u get 100% for existing and t7 gloves maxrolled with 2 perfect rings is 200% but where do you go after that? Lp weapon or odachi for cof or not max rank mg?

[solid forge]

I'm at 500 ignite and 100 shred stacks on the dummy now. I'm not sure if I should push that further

[quiet hearth]

the fact you can even get that many stacks shows they still dont know what to do with dots lol

[cosmic ivy]

what am i supposed to do here.

[cursive compass]

Vigor checked, use rive and healing hands

Nahhh, just leave sentinel again, clock in with druid again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Jw7yQ30nQ&ab_channel=PerrythePig

[solid forge]

Don't know. I spin so fast Dual Wielding with Warpath and Sigils, I'm at 150 ignite on my own.

[cosmic ivy]

why

[quiet hearth]

that is very much a no mr bond, I expect you to die moment

[cosmic ivy]

i got like 8k armor during the fight

[quiet hearth]

I dont know your overall ehp, but I know for a fact these new bosses are overtuned, new ones always are

[obtuse perch]

Pog

I finally capped all.

[cosmic ivy]

How much armor tho

[sterile latch]

Only a little overcapped on fire too @obtuse perch

[cosmic ivy]

only void physical and lightning is important

[obtuse perch]

Fire kind of overcaps on its own

[simple raven]

question. if i as thorns FG can comfortably do 100+ monos/mono bosses, is T2 temporal sanctum feesable?

[cosmic ivy]

i better not die now

[ebon patrol]

the rings actually give 3X rounded down not double since they double dip

[obtuse perch]

Currently 41% unbuffed.

[quiet hearth]

I mean, if that area is a dot that isnt gonna help you

[cosmic ivy]

nvm resistance gon

[obtuse perch]

I'm gonna work on armor and health as I go.

[cosmic ivy]

6k armor without buff is crazy tho

this perk is 🤑

[sterile latch]

Oh that's weird of they're giving 300%. I don't know how the math would end up at 300%.

[obtuse perch]

I can reach 50% block now though which is very pog. 10% less damage here I come.

[cosmic ivy]

crit avoidance and block is bad i believe

[ebon patrol]

no i'm saying it equates to 3X the glove's effect rather than 2X

[obtuse perch]

50% block means 10% less damage from the passive node.

[ebon patrol]

so it's more like 150% not 100

[sterile latch]

Yeah that's still weird. Must be a bug

[cosmic ivy]

what is

[ebon patrol]

it's just how it's applied. people were theorizing it might work this way before the patch was even out

[ebon patrol]

so that's 250% from just your base crit mult and the gloves alone. add in something like the black blade of chaos for an additional 170%

[turbid dome]

7% ward retention?!

[ebon patrol]

and if i'm not mistaken, the blade can itself get another 50% crit affix applied to it if you have lp

[obtuse perch]

Probably from an implicit somewhere.

[ebon patrol]

so getting to like 500% isn't really too weird

[obtuse perch]

Oh it's from an idol.

[ebon patrol]

crit multi can also be added to relics and amulets

[turbid dome]

Ah I’m too used to seeing 4% from killing the snake god on my screen

[obtuse perch]

Yeah I have an idol that gives 3%.

[ebon patrol]

so now you're looking at potentially near 600% crit multiplier on your summoned weapons if you really gear out to the nines

[turbid dome]

👀

[sterile latch]

That won't be inherited by minions though unless it's shared

[ebon patrol]

hmm, you're right. there are some other methods to add a bit more, but around 500% is prob gonna be about the tops

give or take maybe a few tens of %

[sterile latch]

I think you'd prefer melee crit chance over crit multi on black blade so you'd have to get really lucky or get high tier mg to get an lp2

[ebon patrol]

nah there are ways to get a lot of crit chance for your minions on other stuff

[sterile latch]

I never got to that rank last cycle and I was lvl 96

[ebon patrol]

death rattle alone is like 35%+

[sterile latch]

Not enough base crit imo. Like the phantom grips add up to 6% each which is sick

[sterile latch]

Death rattle is increased not base I think?

[ebon patrol]

even with my subpar gear my minions crit CONSTANTLY. like literally every other hit often times many hits in a row

[obtuse perch]

It's funny because I needed one point in that one paladin node to get exactly 50% block.

[sterile latch]

Ahh I can't live without 100%

[ebon patrol]

and when I say subpar gear I mean like, basically nothing is boosting their crit chance besides my passive tree and death rattle

and they still just crit nonstop

[obtuse perch]

I'm not sure when I am gonna find the time to squeeze in crit reducto.

I haven't had the helm drop yet.

[quiet hearth]

get you some blind

[ebon patrol]

atm I'm just using flacon fists for the base damage and attack speed and it's still just walls of yellow numbers

[arctic bay]

Do sigils of hope stack?

[sterile latch]

Right. I did some of the math and I really want a t7 melee crit multi since I want 100% and it's hard to hit without that.

But I didn't test and need to test if gloves give 300%. If so can get away with less base crit

[obtuse perch]

I'd need 16 passive points from somewhere to get blinding light.

[ebon patrol]

with 12 weapons out and some good attack speed buffs, you legit just don't need that much crit rate because the sheer number of attacks alone will just flood crits

[sterile latch]

You don't have to take melee crit if you don't want.

[ebon patrol]

like I cannot stress enough how utterly subpart my stuff is, I haven't even forged, and I just melt everything. when you factor in the armor shred it just gets really nutty

I was like 10% away from 1 cycling echo lagon

[quiet hearth]

there is an affix for it

[sterile latch]

I don't even have crit gear yet and my dmg is decent. But I'm trying to project out to what I want to build to.

[ebon patrol]

I imagine crit stacking will be hard to beat for sheer damage output

[obtuse perch]

Eh I'll just keep going for now. The damage reducto should be huge.

I might drop something that'll help soon.

[sterile latch]

No argument there. Ailment might be better early on b4 u have high crit chance though. I know some people run ignite minions

[ebon patrol]

though I am also curious how much dps you can get out of just purely stacking armor shred and ailments by just equipping Wing Guards, which give 120% attack speed by themselves

mostly as a meme but still funny

[obtuse perch]

Once I get to empowered I can also try for the all resist blessing to reduce some of the resist pressure.

[quiet hearth]

lol, Ive never used lunge while dw before, you just hold both weapons out in front of you and leap xD

[obtuse perch]

Like at that point I can use my idol slots for other kinds of defenses.

[ebon patrol]

you can do stuff with idol slots besides just stacking armor and hp %? that's crazy

from my build I assumed that's just what idols do

[frigid oasis]

Is the Master of Arms' Strength With 2h Weapon not applying to spears intentional?

[waxen nymph]

Nope

Sound like a bug

[sterile latch]

I wasn't gonna use a spear anyways but good to know

[waxen nymph]

Its a shame becuse I was planning a Spear build in the back of my head ^^

[dark field]

Submit a ticket 😄

[quiet hearth]

you really take slawart for granted until you check your armor

[rotund vector]

does anyone happen to know the attack speed breakpoint math for Palarus's Sacred light? like how much to guarantee 3 smites a second?

[winged pulsar]

with warpath?

[sullen hollow]

depends on your proc %

[rotund vector]

yes

[winged pulsar]

you need roughly 130% AS on single target with a 40% rolled palarus when using warpath

[rotund vector]

fantastic ty.

[obtuse perch]

I use it to patch resists. Makes it so I can say, replace something with poison res with something that has necrotic res and all I need to do to fix it is swap my necrotic res idols for poison res ones.

And then once my resists are capped in a more organic way I can phase those out and idk, maybe add hp or armor.

And after that I can also do stuff like minion fire damage.

This is also why I pick up every idol I see. Makes swapping easier. Although I can buy idols now if I need to.

In other news.

I reached the cap. And most of these don't even particularly need extra points either. Like Manifest Armor can be made even stronger with even more points, and ring of shields has very high value nodes.

But forge strike is more or less complete, and multistrike has more points than I know what to do with.

[thorn geyser]

Anyone know how to target self with healing hands with a controller?

[turbid dome]

Shrimply get 75 vitality for 150 resistance 👍

[heavy yarrow]

do warpath echoes cast down smite if you spec into the "winds of justice node?

[cosmic ivy]

so how can i make myself tankier

sentinel is supposed to be a tanky man but a ward mage guy just gets like unbeliveably tanky for no reason

[orchid juniper]

alas we are tragically short of flat dr sources around here

[split basalt]

is regular forge strike minion build stronger than the warpath one?

[obtuse perch]

lol I decided to craft up the sword I've been carrying around.

[cosmic ivy]

melee attacks are so painful too like

[obtuse perch]

Forged weapons go brrrr

The attack speed used to be a t4 phys damage. Decided to reroll it. Got attack speed. Jackpot.

[mighty cedar]

Hello Sent community, I am coming back for the new cycle!

How have you all been

[turbid dome]

Pretty good, the new bosses are fun and nemisus is a fun mechanic

[cosmic ivy]

except aberroth big bam slam attack

[turbid dome]

even tho my last 5 darkstrides I’ve tried upgrading through it have gotten dodge rating

[mighty cedar]

Has my fave skill become any better? 9hsield throw)

[obtuse perch]

A little bit, indirectly. Idk anyone who mains it though.

[turbid dome]

You can duel wield shields now

[mighty cedar]

excuse me

[obtuse perch]

It's not actually a shield.

[turbid dome]

There’s a new “axe” that’s a shield

[cosmic ivy]

@turbid dome btw i can just sit on top of 400 corruption harbinger 💀

[obtuse perch]

But it's an axe that looks like a shield and has shield implicits.

[mighty cedar]

what do I need to google to see it?

[mighty cedar]

omg I want

[turbid dome]

Nice

[obtuse perch]

In addition the passive tree has some juicy shield support now.

[mighty cedar]

well then while shield throw might not have goten any love some shield skills did

[cosmic ivy]

maybe i should build damage and instakill aberroth at this point

[obtuse perch]

Shield bash has been massively buffed.

[cosmic ivy]

im already hittin him for like 400k dmg

[mighty cedar]

Shield throw always had through put issues. I saw the smite idol got chenged too

[turbid dome]

There is still the shield throw shield

[mighty cedar]

yea I saw that one too

but that isn't shield throws issues, its through put is low when nothing to richochet off of

[obtuse perch]

I mean to get a good shield bash build it requires a lot of investment. There's no real crit support for shield bash so you have to kind of brute force the crit chance and crit multi.

[mighty cedar]

ring of sheidls still glitched with its other interactions?

[obtuse perch]

I have no idea, I don't use any of them.

I just use the shields for DoT damage and some protection lol.

[mighty cedar]

You mean the non scalable dodt dmg since the aura is a minions?

[obtuse perch]

Quite scalable I assure you.

[mighty cedar]

huh

[obtuse perch]

They're not my main damage source, but they're noticeable.

Main damage source is forged weapons going brrrr.

[mighty cedar]

last sewason I played I did Cast on hit smite, void shield throw, and then buzz saw armor guardina

[obtuse perch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGDdbL4o This is what I've been able to achieve so far at my current level and gear options.

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 76

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (58) / Paladin (1)

General:

▸ Health: 1,280, Regen: 55/s
▸ Mana: 176, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 7%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 30 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 174% / 87% / 86% / 78% / 78% / 92% / 86%
▸ EHP: 3,061 / 3,061 / 3,061 / 3,756 / 3,061 / 3,061 / 3,061

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 371
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,108)
▸ Block Chance: 50%, Mitigation: 41% (1,086)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Void / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Forge Strike (21)
• Multistrike (20)
• Manifest Armor (20)
• Ring Of Shields (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:

• Arboreal Circuit

[obtuse perch]

Bosses in particular tend to just kinda melt.

[mighty cedar]

forge guard is my fave sential

[turbid dome]

Good news, forge guard got buffed

[obtuse perch]

From my understanding it really is on par with other masteries now. And has some build diversity as well.

Also, evade actually makes no-traversal builds feel nice.

[turbid dome]

It’s nice seeing forge guards actually using forge guard skills

[mighty cedar]

That is hopeful, myabe I will try to revive my shield throw stuff

the mechanic of shield throw for me always means you HAVE to run the minion as well to have something to bounce off of IMO

[obtuse perch]

I've been mashing that space key a lot.

[mighty cedar]

yea that is SUPER nice

[obtuse perch]

The cooldown on evade is really short.

[mighty cedar]

Got to chopose now weather to go shielkd throw or bash though ha

[obtuse perch]

For me ring of shields does put in the work. Like not necessarily the DoT damage (it helps), but the fact that they catch projectiles is so good.

[mighty cedar]

yea its a tanky beast

I recomened that if you dont want the dmg just get the healing

[obtuse perch]

I also got the healing.

Although I might end up respeccing to get +armor instead.

[mighty cedar]

"defenbsive sheids" node always seemed like sucha waist unless you are timing RoS with big atacks

[obtuse perch]

They also completely revamped that one capstone node.

[mighty cedar]

which one

[mighty cedar]

OMG

That is insnae.... its viablwe! I am gona cry

[obtuse perch]

Sometimes I have like 9 shields out at once.

[turbid dome]

sorc is also viable now, which is wild to me

[split basalt]

Is regular forge strike or Warpath version stronger for minion FG?

[obtuse perch]

Disintegrate sorc go brrrrr

[mighty cedar]

That would mess up shield throws bouncing mechanics but taht is super nice

[obtuse perch]

Also glacier sorc apparently

[turbid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-elmo-elmo-fire-fire-chaos-chaos-fire-gif-26561992

[mighty cedar]

they gutted the 30% reduced dmg taken ice runic invo i saw ha

[obtuse perch]

Sorry I didn't mean to ignore.

So if you want to reasonably get your forged weapons out, you need one other skill that makes it easier to summon them.

Warpath, Multistrike, Rive, I think are the ones?

I prefer Multistrike.

[obtuse perch]

Just... Plain 10% less damage taken... Provided you can hit 50% block.

[mighty cedar]

50% is easy for forge guard though

[obtuse perch]

Also here's something you can do with your obnoxiously high fire resist.

[mighty cedar]

interesting

lol do I take it now or wait! haha

[turbid dome]

can you get damage taken as fire damage? or is it all just take it as physical instead

[obtuse perch]

Sentinel focuses on taking damage as phys.

Which is still good because that means it utilizes the full strength of your armor value.

[turbid dome]

ye

I wish there was some damage taken as phys on the passive trees

[night rock]

do the devs monitor around here? obviously not pinging them but i was DWing palarus while leveling my sentinel and i noticed that that started making the smite procs not free

[obtuse perch]

You can send a bug report using the channels for it

[mighty cedar]

I should not have speced into no cd bash yet haha

[turbid dome]

keep bashing!

[mighty cedar]

im using rewbuke to get mana back haha

[devout sierra]

Are you triggering smite off warpath inside the warpath tree? that one is not free. im currently leveling dw palarus and dont seem to lose mana ever

[cosmic ivy]

lf harbinger eye man

all this effort just to challenge boss once and die

[obtuse perch]

People usually use the Time and Faith node for regaining mana.

[mighty cedar]

in hte passive skill tree?

oh they pair it with those skills, interesting

[obtuse perch]

Yeah.

You have a choice out of several skills for restoring mana.

[untold sky]

Which accessories tend to be best for fire forge guards with no minions?

[obtuse perch]

Rive is popular, I myself am partial to Vengeance when it's only for mana.

[mighty cedar]

i have never once used those abilities ahah

[obtuse perch]

Ignite or hit based?

[untold sky]

primary spells are throw shield and shield bash (speced into fire)

[mighty cedar]

those scale differently unless you change the tags

[obtuse perch]

So... Is it ignite or hit based?

[untold sky]

Hit

[mighty cedar]

wtf is this? ha new cycle mech?

[obtuse perch]

That's a nemesis.

[untold sky]

amazing is what it is

[obtuse perch]

It's a very cool itemization vector.

[mighty cedar]

thank god for their IGN game guide

[obtuse perch]

Basically it presents you with four possible items. If you don't like em you can banish the nemesis and nothing happens. If you want the items right now, you can challenge, which makes you fight the nemesis and get those items as drops.

Or you can empower, which also makes you fight the nemesis but you won't get the items yet. But next time you find a nemesis those items will be improved in some way.

It's not that complicated.

At higher levels sometimes one of the items will be an egg. You can put one of your own non-LP uniques in there and it'll be treated the same as those other items.

[mighty cedar]

that is awesome

[obtuse perch]

Uniques can gain random affixes or LP if you do that.

[untold sky]

an example of a twice empowered unique becoming a 2 affix legendary. Fun mechanic

[obtuse perch]

I got this from like my first nemesis. Although usually I get duds. So I just got really lucky that one time.

[untold sky]

Just care, the poison one can really just stack poison on you at an ungodly rate lol

[obtuse perch]

My minion build has kind of been vaporizing everything.

I just stand in one place and hit it. And sometimes I use a potion.

[turbid dome]

Any time I get the egg is the poison dude

[obtuse perch]

I am nowhere near optimal gear and I'm getting like 50+ ignites and some bleeds and other debuffs.

[untold sky]

lol

[obtuse perch]

I thought you would have to carry the unique around with you at all times just in case you found an egg.

But this is untrue. You can access the stash from the egg UI.

Anyhoo I think I'm done with LE for the day. I made some pretty good progress (I'm a very slow player lol but I'm having fun).

[untold sky]

Oh wow my 2nd temporal key on a lvl 83 character nice... what is with the key drop rates now xD

[turbid dome]

its nice being able to access the stash mid map, I dumped a bunch of idols i found and then filled up my inventory again with more idols (idol shrines!)

[chrome umbra]

I'm looking at the phantom grip rind and I just don't understand these design choices - why necrotic?

What does sentinel have to do with necrotic? Where's the scaling?

[devout sierra]

do you build specific elements on minions? 90% of minion scaling is attribute and %inc minion damage which all scale the necro

[turbid dome]

the flat necrotic is more flavor, the real benefit is the gloves applying to forged weapons @chrome umbra

[chrome umbra]

It does make a difference, like resistance shred or armor shred

[obtuse perch]

Extra damage is extra damage for me.

[devout sierra]

Your shred and a few passives dont work, but the main point of the ring is the glove effect/flat crit. and yeah the necro is for flavor.

[obtuse perch]

Like they didn't even have to put any added damage on there.

It's just a neat little bonus.

[chrome umbra]

It's still big for a skill that does 2 base damage

[obtuse perch]

If you want a more mechanical reason for it. It's on there because it's an awkward damage type.

[chrome umbra]

Would that ring even work with unique gloves?

[obtuse perch]

For the most part yes.

[sweet igloo]

Can maw the 2h axe be ascended?

[chrome umbra]

Or is it just STATS and not effects

[obtuse perch]

So long as the mods can logically apply, they will apply.

So no chance to cast smite or whatever.

[chrome umbra]

So you can give them extra speed/crit and maybe some ailment as a suffix.

Oh man so many unique gloves to go through, I went down the rabbit hole didn't I

[obtuse perch]

I want to try the one that converts bleed to ignite.

But it has to have some good legendary affixes on it too. I got one with like throwing and elemental resist.

Which is not what I want lol.

[night rock]

does palarus procing smite count as casting smite for bonuses such as righteous fury (fire flat damage for melee if casting smite recently)?

[obtuse perch]

Thing is, gloves have a lot of possible offensive affixes on it.

(Melee Attack Speed)

I'm running a DoT build and I'm still interested in running two phantom grips lol.

But also two of these rings make hit builds completely viable now.

Because of the minion base crit.

[devout sierra]

That one is yes, because its not casting its simply hitting with smite that triggers it, does not care how the smite was cast.

[river remnant]

hey random question but does the shop show prices in your local currency? it just shows a pair of boxes for me

[turbid dome]

if your meaning apathy's maw you need to get one to drop with LP, or give it to a nemsis to upgrade

[tacit zealot]

i got a ping was it spam?

[obtuse perch]

Chances of nemesis to upgrade into something good is low but it's still a new vector of crafting so I like it.

[turbid dome]

something good is low, but your not upgrading a 0 lp unique anyways

I have 8 darkstrides now with dodge rating help

[ancient bridge]

i got the level 1 hammer unique with + 75 flat

[obtuse perch]

Yeah it takes your non LP unique that you probably aren't using and then maybe turns it into something good. Or not, but either way you're no worse off than you started.

[cosmic ivy]

@turbid dome ive been using t5 armor & crit bonus darkstride since level 60

i havent dropped any other piece of boots that could replace it 💀

[turbid dome]

[obtuse perch]

Still can't believe I got this perfect yellow

[turbid dome]

[hollow spindle]

Worst nemesis buff ever...

[obtuse perch]

I could technically use that last FP to reroll the values

[obtuse perch]

health regen pog

[cosmic ivy]

at least its not like wrong dmg type

[hollow spindle]

It literally has "you do not regenerate health" on the base item though so health regen is the worst affix to get lol

[obtuse perch]

I know, that's why it's funny

[hollow spindle]

Game is trolling me right now

[cosmic ivy]

you want to get 2-3 LP on that anyways. empower just hope for LP

[hollow spindle]

yea but nemesis empower is poor man's LP while target farming