#🔱┃sentinel

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dark field
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What about Aurelis and Palarus?

obtuse perch
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What I like about LE is like.

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It's not just thousands of players having 20 people play the game for them.

turbid dome
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ye

wet forum
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I mean I play PoE ssf unguided too, much like this game, but LE is undeniably way friendlier towards the playstyle yeah

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Sorry I just have no words to describe this

turbid dome
obtuse perch
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They're not even t5.

turbid dome
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the worst part is its better than my old relic I grabbed in act 2 (: (lvl 73 btw)

twilit valley
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Lvl 93 but 100 feels 1 year away

turbid dome
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it kinda is

vale ravine
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just pop in an erased sentinel with garbo stats and call it a day lol

sterile latch
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lagon you piece of shit! Couldn't evade thru the tentacle

obtuse perch
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I think the baseline of your build should be complete by around level 80?

turbid dome
vale ravine
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F

tribal basin
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depends on if you need higher Base items but the skills should be done

vale ravine
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tbf the only one i have was from a nemesis too

turbid dome
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on the plus side I just got 12 glyphs of hope from an echo reward

sterile latch
obtuse perch
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I could never play hardcore.

lament star
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Campaign lagon ?

turbid dome
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rebuke + the node that makes you take 60% less ele damage whiel rebuking

lament star
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I lost 3 char to hc alrdy hehe

vale ravine
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nah, just VR straight into the eye beam and die like real men

obtuse perch
lament star
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Right now i made it to empowered with bleedlock, having a seizure cuz it lags

obtuse perch
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At least I'm assuming the breath attack is DoT damage.

vale ravine
lament star
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Im thinking about making a bleed bash VK after that

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Got some lvling gear for alts

quiet hearth
lament star
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Btw shield bash scale with melee speed and block chance with node right @

unreal holly
twilit valley
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Playing on a legion go …

lament star
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Any platform not pc is heresy heavybreathing

turbid dome
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King Baka is embracing owobyss

lament star
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Also that relic is goated

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If u gimme that i'll lose it to the Hc gods hehe

unreal holly
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Bruh that relic is godly.

twilit valley
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Can’t wait to find a lp4 culnivars claim

lament star
vale ravine
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oh ye

lament star
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No wonder then...

twilit valley
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Any armor will all attributes besides core ?

lament star
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I even made my game 1600x900

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Very low graphics

vale ravine
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they stated a couple times during 1.0 that it was fixed but my performance always degraded over time on my CB spamming lock even at the end, so i assume something might be still up

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restart your client from time to time

lament star
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I see ty

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Im about to catch my zzz but ill try to remember the tip

turbid dome
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;-; the ward one is T7

steel star
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Tell me you Hate Lagon without saying you Hate Lagon. 🤬

turbid dome
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rebuke > lagon

warped blade
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people hate lagon? tf

steel star
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now, tf. True fact or the f**k

vale ravine
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im starting to second guess myself for going MG.... market is already giga slow compared to 1.0

twilit valley
steel star
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Circle is nuts. full sets at lvl 4

charred stag
steel star
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Now thats just rude.

twilit valley
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Can frostbite shackles drop mono 100 with frost Lich ?

turbid dome
ruby igloo
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Anyone use event horizon on some builds?

vale ravine
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you can craft experimental affixes too but that's kinda advanced stuff

turbid dome
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thats fair, I forget you can do that

still gotta murder rune mages for the crafting stuff FrightenedGrole2WrongDirectiongroleshades

vale ravine
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true true

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i actually stopped killing mages cause i was like "i dont need anything" then i remembered you always need the glyphs lol

turbid dome
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I just murder them whenever I see them

haughty canopy
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quick meme question.. can we dw palarus and get double the chance to proc smites?

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cos HH seraph blade is calling me

ruby igloo
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You can cast smite as lvl 6 thats op

haughty canopy
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i mean as a lvling build lol

ruby igloo
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I used 1 only

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Weapon base damage to low

turbid dome
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weaver this is feeling personal

haughty canopy
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ah ok...

fair anchor
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Yeah, i dont use horn, even though i have it…. It drains my mana way too much. I run a T7 block effectiveness shield instead. Any shield with a good block effectiveness base and block effectiveness T6/T7 is just as good bro

sterile latch
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Interesting that hardcore and softcore items are separated. But if u make a new character in hardcore u can transfer them to softcore by going to the stash, picking it up, then going afk in a group of mobs?

quiet hearth
sterile latch
quiet hearth
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80% is 80%, no way around that one

turbid dome
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80% less damage is great, for lagon lunge with invulnerability while lunging makes avoiding his sweeping beam easy.

easy lunges between the 2 tentacles

sterile latch
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lunge has a way to lunge without a target?

turbid dome
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paranoia helm, but you can lunge to the tentacles

quiet hearth
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Im will always be salty that the invuln node is after 4 block point node

sterile latch
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oh I'm not widescreen

wet forum
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Lunging between the tentacles is so satisfying yeah

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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I wonder if I could make a rebuke focused build

vale ravine
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what happened with the poison 😄

sterile latch
quiet hearth
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It works, I tried some other stuff but honestly the weird triple threat scaling works just because you get so much pen. I can only imagine how good it will feel when I get some damage on it

turbid dome
sterile latch
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shield rush thru

quiet hearth
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I have ONE dmg mod on my gear, a 40% dot on a ring, that's it, the rest is pen and passives and the ruby fang set

sterile latch
turbid dome
quiet hearth
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spreading flame is kinda meh though

turbid dome
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you can add +15 void damage to the base dmg per thing that hits you

wet forum
quiet hearth
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I just dont think you could get enough dmg out of it to be viable

hoary grove
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Does the Path Of Fire node on warpath turn into some type of void damage/fire if im using the void nodes on warpath?

quiet hearth
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do we have any way of just igniting things as we sit in rebuke?

turbid dome
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the counter attack thing in base sentinel?

quiet hearth
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technically a melee attack, and hits more often than you would think honestly

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You'd have to go reflect

foggy pebble
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is dual wield erasing strike VK viable?

quiet hearth
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So our options for reflect are the attunement stacking shield, and the shield throw counter attack shield

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also I see no reaosn why dw vk isnt viable, not optimal but certainly viable

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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False engi, you have that sceptre now

foggy pebble
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does erasing strike calculate dmg per weapon, or combo of both?

turbid dome
foggy pebble
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ooooo

wet forum
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Think of weapons as stat sticks

foggy pebble
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thats great, i just got such a nice 1 hander for it

turbid dome
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send 1 hander pic, tis the rule

vale ravine
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offense could work but increased damage taken on a melee sentinel is kinda bad imo

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we are not really thirsting for damage, defense is our weak point

foggy pebble
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yeah true

wet forum
vale ravine
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if set on DWing probably would try to do something with void beams

dark field
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I asked earlier and I might have missed. But is Aurelis any good?

quiet hearth
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for an electrify build yes

dark field
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And maybe stacking with Palarus? Moar smites?

quiet hearth
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I mean, it wouldn't be that many, only like 30% more, but multi strike hits a TON so maybe. I havent tried it so I have zero idea what the interaction would look like

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what weapon to use for this nonsense though

steel star
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I want Event Horizon to work wit the Forge, but not sure it its good or not.

chrome umbra
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man, the smite idol change is weird. I thought the procs would be offset, but they seem to go on sort of a cooldown when hitting the 10 per 2 seconds threshold

dark field
vale ravine
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dont think there is anything which doesnt work with event horizon lol

turbid dome
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anyone need a comical amount of fire res?

quiet hearth
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omg I ned that for my triple dot build, I need so much fire res

steel star
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Only issue i saw with Event is the attack speed reduction. But other then that.

vale ravine
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like EH might be BiS bladedancer weapon lol

steel star
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I dont have one to test yet, so dont know lol

vale ravine
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i love that world splitter is so silly it literally invalidates the erasing strike tooltip lol

turbid dome
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I didn't need the fire res so I think this is worth it

vale ravine
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giga

quiet hearth
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you lucky sob

turbid dome
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this is like my 15th time rune of removaling a chestplate with a T6 flat health and finally not hitting it

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2453 -> 2625 groleshades

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missing the T5 on the increased health hurts

vale ravine
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imagine if we had a chest piece which could give up to 40% increased health!

turbid dome
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goes great with eternal form

vale ravine
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i got this from my nemesis bro

quiet hearth
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I havent gotten anything good from those nerds

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Hmm, maybe it would be better to go no cd shield bash and have a ton of riccochets

turbid dome
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Carrying around a second darkstride boot incase I find one with the upgrade egg

vale ravine
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ye im literally carrying a whole backup set lol

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broke like 2-3 maws and world splitters already

turbid dome
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F

sour elk
quiet hearth
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I gotta get into empowered maybe thats my issue

vale ravine
turbid dome
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oh Ettera I haven't bought new prophecies in like 2 days

vale ravine
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im legit waiting for the market to restock

quiet hearth
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that is something I hate about MG, people buying everything out at once

sour elk
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One of my favorite MG things is buying every instance of some stupid double exalt for jank, then doing it again a couple days later after all my slams fail 🥲

vale ravine
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it's fine as long as market is booming but it is quickly becoming kinda deadge

sour elk
turbid dome
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I love this lens

quiet hearth
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yeah, when the market gets flooded no one buys any of the small stuff so you're just burning favor so it's like what's the point. I think you should be able to just vendor uniques for favor honestly.

cobalt socket
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I got 2 red ring can anyone suggest what build use it plz

vale ravine
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dont bother with bad stuff is the solution tbh. MG teaches you fast what's really value and what's trash

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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only bad stuff is relative, not everyone is chasing the meta builds

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Im gonna go suggest a beggars guild, where you can vendor junk items for currency to gamble for other uniques grim dawn style

turbid dome
vale ravine
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doesn't sell -> bad

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Gamba Guild 😄

quiet hearth
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Bad is relative, once again, not everyone is playing the same builds. Some people like to experiment with goofy ideas

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A popular streamer can say this item is garbage and instantly the market will tank even if the item is perfectly fine.

vale ravine
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ye but as a seller as you said you need to minmax gold gained per favor basically. so it doesn't really matter how much DPS an item could be for a niche build, for you the item is objectively bad if it doesn't sell and you burned favor on it

sour elk
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Yeah 100%, I play MG so I can have BiS for my wacky ideas, which makes them at least kinda ok

quiet hearth
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Gold should just be removed from MG, let the currency be favor and then give a big currency dump in the form of a gambler.

orchid juniper
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Does the affix "XX% increased damage while channelling" affect the smelters wrath explosion or is that technically after the channel is over

quiet hearth
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So now it's do I sell for favor, or do I go gamble with it

sour elk
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Though this league I'm convinced that my wacky ideas are actually great. Sword catcher is OP and everyone else is insane for not running it on their melee builds

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Last league's multistrike triggered void smite DoT VK was more properly jank, enabled by super cheap legendaries + exalt affixes

winter copper
quiet hearth
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sword catcher is really good when you dont need a specific weapon set up

winter copper
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so the rng kinda killed the weapon

vale ravine
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well it's not really the RNG, it is active population

winter copper
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i mean other items dont have issues appearing on the market. so no, it is rng

vale ravine
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naaaaah facing the same with world splitter, and i reckon this is the case with many high end items

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and soon it will be the case with mid stuff as well as people keep dropping off

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but maybe we are just too early season, will see how it goes as people keep climbing corruption

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I think a lot of people are also hunting down harbingers first which kinda spreads your efforts around, compared to going ballz deep in one timeline

steel star
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my game hates me. my sentinal relic is dex, and javalin.....booo

orchid juniper
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don't throwing skills scale off both str and dex? it's not an entirely worthless stat

steel star
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true, but im not using ANY throwing skills lol

vale ravine
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so i reach the edge of my corr 100 mono, orobyss node says I get 14 corr from defeating it and 12 from my gaze
I reset, I jumped from 100 to 154 corr. what am I missing

turbid dome
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didn't they make gaze give more corruption

summer shell
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catch up from a higher timeline?

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mine did that too without any indicator but i had a 175 before

vale ravine
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my highest is like 152 I think? kinda ass you dont know exactly how much you are getting, i think catchup was calculated into the tooltip before

ancient bridge
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u mana stacking ES?

vale ravine
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who?

ancient bridge
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you

vale ravine
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ye im world splittin'

ancient bridge
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how you like it? big bonks/

cursive compass
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With the new aberroth helm drop, you can mana stack and gain a new extra layer of defense for VK

vale ravine
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"i never had so much fun on a sentinel before" good 😄 (and I played them every time since 0.9.2)

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granted low corruption for now, and only 350 mana but you can see already it is insane clear

cursive compass
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Sentinel EQ

vale ravine
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on bosses you just pop everything dump all of your mana at once and you chew through the shields

ancient bridge
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hows the defense tho? I'm thinking of rerolling my mana stack sorc to mana stack vk

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Sorc feels a bit crowded

vale ravine
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theoretically ~40k phys / 20-21k DoT EHP with maxed gear. it's not ward but it's livable imo
ethical build, you could say lol

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it matters a little bit less now that you are clearing things half a screen away

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so that's kind of a survivability buff in itself, mage style

quiet hearth
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wtf happened, I go take a break and now there is a patch?

ancient bridge
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true. Whats your average bonk dmg?

vale ravine
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average is kinda hard to say cause it is giga buff dependet, have like 28 different multipliers
I theorycrafted 2M per hit vs level 100 minmaxed

foggy pebble
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dumping ES on bosses is the most fun ive had in an arpg in awhile

vale ravine
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and when you dump in the burst window, especially if you get enough mana to be able to double or triple guaranteed echo... i dunno, it's a lot of bonks per sec lol. 5-10M DPS for sure, kinda? maybe more?

ancient bridge
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thats kinda nutty

vale ravine
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but i mean if you want to dumpster a boss you just sub in an event horizon and do basically infinite DPS, so single target is whatever technically. clear what matters imo

ancient bridge
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event horizon?

vale ravine
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new hammer with like 70% pen and 150% or something stupid like that more damage

steel star
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its got penetration EVERYTHING

ancient bridge
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wow

vale ravine
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tbh i dont feel like we will need it, but well it is there as an emergency break glass option

steel star
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but its off the new Harbingers

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that and im still chasing that new ring for Forge Guards. no luck yet

vale ravine
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im giga surprised nobody posted a splitter build yet on letools

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guess everybody sorcing

ancient bridge
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theres onbly 1 yt vid

vale ravine
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ye that's why i made the DPS sheet as well cause there wasnt really anything out there

quiet hearth
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I just realized why I havent been seeing items....my lootfilter was set up for crit and not dots fml

ancient bridge
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im sorc ing rn

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There's also prob opportunity to make a RF type build using abborath command but im not sure how well it would scale

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the dot is 350% with spell damage

vale ravine
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ye was thinking about it but didnt really get too far with it

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and well, bonk is life

ancient bridge
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if you could offhand a wand or sceptre it would be clutch

marsh warren
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for the hammer and anvil node in the fg tree it says "after directly casting an ability that costs 20 or more mana, your minions gain increased attack speed for a short duration" is there anywhere that displays the actual duration?

vale ravine
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moment of silence for old anvil

quiet hearth
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what about old anvil?

vale ravine
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every time sentinel loses DR it is a travesty

foggy pebble
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i wish we had talents for spears

quiet hearth
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oh anvil stance

vale ravine
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Mike did say tho they are looking into buffing sentinel defenses in the future so there is hope

steel star
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id love to take points in VK, FG and Pal for the nice resistances in paly and VK, but takes away from potential damage

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that and sigil is just really really good.

quiet hearth
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When you have to choose where to go, that is a good thing. It means they are balancing the trees better. Sigil is great but I cant stand recasting it and that 6% on kill just isnt enough

honest flume
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I'm wondering if ring of shields is actually helping me despite using a bardiche

steel star
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i got lucky and got the ring that auto casts it, but i still cast it, its quick and free. but id prefer to put them points somewhere else

waxen nymph
vale ravine
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more of "erasing strike hitting things in front of you" showcase lol

honest flume
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How's the poison FG coming along, Draven

quiet hearth
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Great actually, now if I could just get some gear because my dmg is all pen and one ring with 40% increased dot, that is it

honest flume
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I'm just starting to push corruption on my bleed/ignite FG but I need more EHP

quiet hearth
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you and me both, but my loot issues will be fixed now that I unborked my loot filter lol

vale ravine
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can i offer you a titan heart in these trying times

steel star
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im almost pushing corruption, but its slow

ancient bridge
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i still havent hit empowered monos lol

honest flume
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I've got like 120% increased attack speed while using rive and 500% bleed chance and 200% ignite chance at base not including rive nodes, so my damage is fine

vale ravine
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tbh that's kind the downside with DoTs, things will hit you before they die

honest flume
vale ravine
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ranged hit playstyle is just so much more inherently powerful

honest flume
vale ravine
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ye i feel you

honest flume
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The caveman in me wants to walk up to enemies and just hit them

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But yeah I'm already using a Titan Heart but my EHP is 3.5k at most according to the planner

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my base health is 1.4k

vale ravine
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ye starting out in empowered is hard, i always try to quckly farm the double armor blessings, it helps a ton

quiet hearth
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mine is 1060 at lvl 71 xD

vale ravine
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yoinking things like this for 100k can also help 😄

turbid dome
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gawd damn that idol

vale ravine
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that's the only reason i put fgull double HP idols in my planner cause as MG i know i can do that lol

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i had full inventory from these on 2-3 chars easily last cycle

honest flume
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Not me wasting a good half mil on exalted attack speed bardiches trying to increase my dps more 😭

vale ravine
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these harbies kinda slap

ancient bridge
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u get bonked?

vale ravine
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bonk, or be bonked

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did my 150 so doable but actually need to play mechanics 😄

solemn harbor
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Now... What is that doing over there...

vale ravine
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like i dumpstered frost lich in two burst windows then was running circles around harbinger of war for 2 minutes

winter copper
# waxen nymph

that node is bugged and doesnt give any bonus on threshold

marsh warren
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for the hammer and anvil node in the fg tree it says "after directly casting an ability that costs 20 or more mana, your minions gain increased attack speed for a short duration" is there anywhere that displays the actual duration? I cannot seem to find an answer online so was curious if anyone knew here

quiet hearth
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anytime you see short duration it's 4s

marsh warren
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thank you, is that somewhere on the screen or just something that everyone knows?

quiet hearth
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should be on the node description iirc

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weird it doesnt

marsh warren
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ok I am glad I am not buggin lmao

quiet hearth
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but if iirc it's 4s, so go hit something and look at your bar

marsh warren
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when you empower a nemesis thing could it reroll the stats on the unique item?

ancient bridge
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i just got clapped by the harbringer of fear

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i clapped it

quiet hearth
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clap back

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that parry chance tho

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wait, would rives foe cleaver node double the minion dot?

tired cloud
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chat is this weapon good

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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lame

turbid dome
tired cloud
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ive never played void knight before, what would you use it iwth

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the stats on this weapon look insane, I feel like it could be so good

turbid dome
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I'd use it with erasing strike and the new boots that make you immune while erasing strike-ing

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or use a skill that doesnt care about attack/cast speed

quiet hearth
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those new boots are stupid

turbid dome
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which stupid are you saying

quiet hearth
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the good stupid, like cant be stunned AND a less dmg multi?!

turbid dome
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its the ima gonna get you boots

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ES with a lot of vitality is always fun tho cause it makes the spell damage part of it do silly amounts of damage

twilit valley
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Not bad at lvl 94 … will help me out

turbid dome
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dang

valid apex
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For the bonk knight build, I think a well slammed 2lp titan heart beats this, until then I stick with it, probs?

turbid dome
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if only that was vitality ;-;

quiet hearth
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it's so funny to kill one of those revives on 2s, and they revive just to get slapped with like 60 stacks of dots

turbid dome
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or watching my echo slam the second they get up

how is the dot stacking fun times going

quiet hearth
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now that I am finding loot again with a proper filter great, Ive almost doubled my damage. I can all but kill one of those ice giants with a single bonk boom now and only like 10% ofthat is the hit

fair burrow
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Been thinking about what to make as my second character and dropped 3LP Falcon Fists just now, did I understand right they're good on minion FG?

ancient bridge
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u give ur minions the gloves right?

fair burrow
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With the rings I think yeah

ancient bridge
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will they get falcons?

twilit valley
sterile latch
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They're horrible. Give them to me. I'll dispose of them properly for you

bleak breach
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does warpath travel speed get affected at all by movement speed anywhere other than on the tree itself?

cerulean sorrel
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any increased movement speed you have on boots for example will apply to warpath

bleak breach
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awesome, thanks!
next question is dumb but i'm wondering if there's any way, that's not crude, to just toggle warpath instead of holding it

quiet hearth
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I wish there was a way to color my dmg numbers according to the dmg type so I know whats doing what

twilit valley
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Sorry to ask , are harbinger eye .. the boss random or how to spawn them ? I’m mono 150 and only had 2 spawn at mono 100 earlier on

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I should read up but lazy .. anyone know how I collect all to open portal

quiet hearth
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oh no, I killed lagon and he dropped his stupid shield and now I gotta play a shaman

twilit valley
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I have no idea how to get the eyes , have 2 but not sure how they spawn ..

gritty mango
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bro ffs another whole cycle and they still couldnt fix the hammer throw mana bug

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if anyone reading this is thinking about starting a hammer throw build: dont, the bug is still there and it will only frustrate you

hollow spindle
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rotation bug?

dark field
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I have finally got it

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Now do I do Forge Strike of Smelters HMM

sterile latch
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Wow early in the season there really isn't much surplus of stuff

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In MG

sterile latch
ancient bridge
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is leveling with erasing strike fast?

quiet hearth
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Multistrike to stack it, then use vengeance with all the riposte and dagger nodes

hoary zodiac
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i wana do a erasure strike build with it but it'll be so bad

twilit valley
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Temporal Sanctum is bugged for me at times , like can’t switch maps etc

quiet hearth
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Nah, go with the guaranteed echoes, then your AS wont matter as much, you will still need to stack it somehow, and I think MS is the best because each swing is worth several

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fml, I wasnt paying attention and stacked monsters have 30% endurance AND less dmg taken

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well time to litmus test my damage I guess

polar juniper
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For HC, when should I transition to Shield Bash build from Forge Weapon build?

I have the 1H unique axe that’s required for the build.

dark field
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Attack speed scales channel for smelters wrath?

ionic spade
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usually channeling isnt affected (except warpath?)

bright sluice
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does synthesis of light node in healing hands tree affect self? like does it increase my ward generation?

karmic herald
tired cloud
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would this be good for an EK knight build?

polar juniper
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Str = Amror

tired cloud
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I've never actually played a sentinel though, so I don't know if there's like a required chest or not

austere frost
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Depends it's good slam but titan hearth 3 lp is probably plain better

quiet hearth
#

It's not required but if you can overcap enough, that is a BIG less damage taken

bright sluice
#

still pretty good with lousy gears lol

bleak breach
#

"Does not fit in inventory," I wonder why

polar juniper
#

Push the Transfer button

bleak breach
#

haha ik, just usually doesnt fill literally my whole inv

vale ravine
#

try to slam or sell...

quiet hearth
#

yeah, shards should just go straight into the stash honestly

austere frost
quiet hearth
#

i love ppl talking about oh this sucks because it went from immortal to mostly immortal

bright sluice
flat skiff
#

What is a good level of health to aim for in empowered monos? Doing VK bonk build, I have 2k but sometimes I get my health shredded. Aiming for 60% endurance and probably more endurance threshold as well, but I'm gonna pick y'alls brains

austere frost
#

Ok talk to me when you get to 600

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Then tell me id so good

vale ravine
#

im at 2.5k with no crit avoid and base endurance, corr 150. starting out is fine

bright sluice
#

i never said it was top tier, just that it didnt suck lol

quiet hearth
#

it's bait dont take it

austere frost
#

At 100 all builds are good xd

flat skiff
#

Forgot about crit avoid, that's a good point

bright sluice
#

you said it sucked, i'm just proving that even with ward nerfs i hit 1.6k ward

austere frost
#

My cold acid flask solid too prob

quiet hearth
#

Yeah you need some sort of crit avoid, I'd recommend blind it's so good to open affixes

austere frost
#

1.6 k wars nothing bud

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Try tht at 500 corr

bright sluice
austere frost
#

Buddy play more then make your own opinions

bright sluice
#

😂 , i hit 1.6k ward with stupid gears. ward is still busted.

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yeah cool, i hit 1.5k last cycle.

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doesn't matter to me what your opinion is, i'm just saying ward is still busted. ^_^

austere frost
#

Sorc 6k to 10k ward intended too

bright sluice
#

ward + endurance i'm pretty much a god

austere frost
#

I hit 3k ward with autobomber does it make it good to idk push higher corr at 700 answer no

#

Again 100 corr we are all gods,btw you ping you get response back that's all

vale ravine
#

i mean what's your point, you can push to 600-800 with pure HP builds

vale ravine
#

it's not about ward, it's about EHP

jade cedar
#

i want to plan my own build, but I don't have any idea what are good targets for stats. i.e., how much block chance/effectiveness/armor etc do i need? can anyone help me?

quiet hearth
#

not a bad hat

polar juniper
#

does anyone play Shield bash

quiet hearth
#

some of us have

bleak breach
#

sad it didnt roll higher than t4 rip

quiet hearth
#

they have got to revisit crafting again, losing 2/3s of your fp on a single craft WITH a glyph is just not good

turbid dome
#

(: we love loosing all our fp cause we got double unlucky

charred stag
#

any VK builds use this?

open iris
#

damn only 58 forging potential

quiet hearth
turbid dome
twilit valley
#

I’m probably going to remove ward later at higher corruption and save items I find to be able to .. I don’t see ward viable at 1000 corruption

vale ravine
#

wat

quiet hearth
#

for trident?

turbid dome
#

trident of the last abyss, what kyber linked

vale ravine
#

straight to trash

turbid dome
#

darn

quiet hearth
#

oooh, I'd have to sit down and see, maybe with that you could triple scale bleed, ignite, and time rot or something

charred stag
vale ravine
#

4 second ICD on something you can do already, stats giga meh

quiet hearth
#

people tell me stuff like that all the time and I make it work, you gotta open your mind bro

charred stag
vale ravine
#

Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should

quiet hearth
#

listen, Im alredy doing triple dot FG and might be getting ready to do quad dot. My memes know no bounds for science.

vale ravine
#

it sounds like you should add this spear to your build then, i heard crit multi and flat damage are good for ailments!

quiet hearth
#

cant, have to use the ruby fang set

turbid dome
#

I think the game is trying to tell me something

vale ravine
#

darn

quiet hearth
#

tell? it is screaming at you

vale ravine
#

unpopular opinion, i like shroud of obs better (totally not because I got an LP4 last league)

weary wren
#

to the void knight wiki...does abyssal decay duration also increase the total damage or is it just there to increase the buffs u can get from the tree?

vale ravine
#

i dont know about damage but i dont think duration affects nether coating buffs

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think it's just the blind and fragility

bleak breach
#

which is better for warpath void knight? i dont have any poison-related stuff

vale ravine
#

otherwise i think it should work like any other DoT duration, it is basically a more damage multiplier if the mobs stay alive for the whole duration (or you trigger early)

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e.g. if you tick 2k per sec for 4 seconds +25% duration would make you tick 2k per sec for 5 seconds (or 10k immediately if you blow it up)

quiet hearth
#

HH hands has access to electrify

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and one of the first nodes in paladin gives you lightning dmg and pen heavy breathing

vale ravine
#

ye I think Dread even made a build for it last league

quiet hearth
#

but was dread scaling 5 dots?

vale ravine
#

no because he values his time

charred stag
quiet hearth
#

he's a streamer, he in no way values his time xD

vale ravine
#

ye but he is an LE streamer my dude, not exactly making you a millionaire 😄

quiet hearth
#

but in all seriousness it's only 4, if only because I simply cannot get time rot into the build

lament star
#

bruh i tped in a pack my ward went poof

vale ravine
#

2 void cleaves are 10 stacks, that's the easiest way to get rot

#

wait what are your 4 DoTs?

quiet hearth
#

Right now I have three, Bleed, Ignite, and Poison, when I respec HH I will get electrify

winged pulsar
#

I really wish they would give healing hands a lightning tag if you go the electrify nodes.

vale ravine
#

i mean at this point might as well add echoes and rot lol

quiet hearth
#

that's the thing, I cannot add it

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there just are not enough ways to get time rot, actually, lunge can give me access to time rot

winged pulsar
#

Ya 1 whole time rot every lunge

vale ravine
#

what's your weapon? or you event horizon for the all pen?

quiet hearth
#

The Ruby Fang set, the axe and shield

vale ravine
#

hmm

quiet hearth
#

because as long as the poison is inflicted by a melee attack, it gets 47% pen

turbid dome
#

I wish I could make void hands

vale ravine
#

i mean i would pers go 2H, Rive and Cleave instead and do more of the sameish types but that loses the meme i guess

quiet hearth
#

I am memeing so hard

#

the only way it could get better is if I had a zero cost fire skill

vale ravine
#

like...
rive? 😄

quiet hearth
#

does rive get the fire tag?

winged pulsar
#

HH?

vale ravine
#

no but you can turn the bleeds into ignites with the hubris

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ye HH should actually get the fire tag now right, it was fixed in 1.1

quiet hearth
#

That is the thing, it has to have the fire tag to work

#

.....I am blind

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so HH is the thing poisoning so well xD

vale ravine
#

lol

quiet hearth
#

So, the only on hit time rot item I can find is the forgotten knight ammy, and that is a tough slot to give up

pearl geyser
#

why arent you just scaling a specific dot

vale ravine
#

tbh even tho rive is not a fire skill it hits so fast it prob more than makes up for that 67% chance

turbid dome
#

double swing rive for giga attack speed?

quiet hearth
#

Because FS gets a really stupid bleed effect and detonating ground gets really good ignites, and multistrike gets bleeds and procs FS

pearl geyser
#

also, you can make shield throw into a zero mana cost fire skill

vale ravine
#

yep, also triggering HH. think that's kind the fastest application you can get on sentinel

quiet hearth
#

Also for the memes dexa, for the memes, and it has to be a MELEE hit sadly

turbid dome
#

rive for laceration for another dot?

pearl geyser
#

ah

quiet hearth
#

then I dont get free forge strikes, but maybe I could make up for that since rive will stack ignites better

pearl geyser
#

i thought my build was memey. using manifest armour as a target for smite procs on throw

quiet hearth
#

well, if I can fit in the forgotten knight ammy I get time rot and void rift proccing

vale ravine
#

do rive created forged weapons apply ailments?

quiet hearth
#

yes, they inherit my weapons chance to...everything really but they dont add that much

bright nest
#

Does anybody know if minion damage scales dots applied by minions?

pearl geyser
#

it does yes

bright nest
#

do you also know if global damage buffs apply to your minions?

pearl geyser
#

they do not

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like "increased fire damage" is only your fire damage

bright nest
#

yeah I'm looking at the bottom left of forge strike (more damage)
cheers

quiet hearth
#

the big question will be is will this all be worth losing FS

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and then, what do I put in it's palce

vale ravine
#

i mean...

#

40% attack speed, extra weapons, 150% ignite jsut baseline

pearl geyser
#

i leveled with WP forge weapons, didnt even have forge strike on my bar

quiet hearth
#

the weapons arent that big of a deal

vale ravine
#

then you can add lacerate maybe, pull in, mana recharge, big utility as well

pearl geyser
#

12 of the swords is pretty big if you have minion scaling and sigils

quiet hearth
#

dont need mana recharge, time and faith is 10 mana per swing

vale ravine
#

what do you get from FS

quiet hearth
#

giga chad bleed and some ignite, the bleed in the FS tree gets like 200 bleed phys pen natively

vale ravine
#

need to do the math if the more fire, and focus on fire from set worth

#

i mean throw in a throne of ambition as well at that point

quiet hearth
#

thats the thing, I have so much pen it doesnt matter

lament star
#

yooo what is that ?

quiet hearth
#

actually there are time rot idols

lament star
#

oh its garbage. while not in combat wth

vale ravine
#

so abyssal echoes has this (besides it being a DoT and also having time rot chance)

#

if you stick to FS

quiet hearth
#

I dont stop attacking long enough to use that

vale ravine
#

can spec for auto cast

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throw it down, keep pumping, recasts keep blowing up the bleeds

quiet hearth
#

and I could spec it for ignite

simple raven
#

morning ya'll. what i miss 😄

vale ravine
#

oh ye lol also has ignite 😄 never ever checked out that part of the tree kek

waxen nymph
quiet hearth
#

I might try a variant of that later, because I could see uber stacking bleeds and then wham

winter copper
waxen nymph
#

I am very disappointed Misha 😢
I thought you were a Patch Node nerd

quiet hearth
#

Actually, it might be worth not popping bleeds just to keep up the echo for nether coating

winter copper
vale ravine
#

that doesnt depend on the echo

#

coating is a fix 5 sec buff you get on cast

#

direct cast only tho, the recasts dont refresh it

waxen nymph
winter copper
#

yes on shield rush, was yikes so buggy

quiet hearth
#

I dunno if the ignite is worth it, it's just two ignites

winged pulsar
#

I got like 50 eyes in stash. Don’t need any aberroth loot in current build. Prolly do like. 100 kill aberroth farm sess next week

vale ravine
#

ehg needs to learn how to stack items lol

quiet hearth
#

in the year of our lord 2024, non stacking items

vale ravine
#

necro league was also giga fun with the coffins filling up every one of your stash tabs

quiet hearth
#

ok, so this is my project tomorrow

#

I could run serpents milk and give rive the forged weapons for another 200% poison

bleak breach
#

this is of zero use to me now but are there any builds that this would work perfectly for?

pearl geyser
#

its not a bad mod ot have on MA gear, even though you dont run multistrike. big number gets bigger with MA

quiet hearth
#

The rare ammy craft would be stupid, I'd need to seal one pen, and then craft on another

#

But in the end, we're looking at, ignite, bleed, poison, electrify, time rot, and abyssal decay

#

oh and the lacerate effect

vale ravine
#

if anybody ever asks I deny i ever contributing to this

quiet hearth
#

All you did was speed up the process, I would have searched the skill finder anyway

#

you saved people from watching my decent into madness over the weekend.

vale ravine
#

doing my part!

#

who am i kidding, this is not the end, you will find a way to go even deeper

quiet hearth
#

Im not sure if rive will be up to snuff, because those exta swords from multistrike are REALLY good for dots

bright nest
#

still trying to make multistrike work but the more i use it the more I Feel pure forge strike or warpath just takes the cake

quiet hearth
#

I think that is literally all the damaging ailments tho

vale ravine
#

ohm

#

doom? 😄

quiet hearth
#

there's a ring for that

vale ravine
#

400 base dam, nothing to scoff at

simple raven
#

T2 temportal sanctum vs empowered monos 100 corrup, which one is harder?

vale ravine
#

ye siphon can have 30% on it

quiet hearth
#

oh and boots

vale ravine
#

ok now we need to reach ten

quiet hearth
#

oh frostbite

daring lion
#

Merophage is great for FG minions right? The all damage is doubled for Forge Weps?

quiet hearth
#

but we have no pen for that one sadly NO, apathy gloves gives global pen

#

future strike, can get that from a banner

vale ravine
#

ye fs ofc

#

is your gloves slot empty?

bright nest
#

I wonder, is a 4x1 pure armor idol better for a forge strike minion build or throne of ambition 2x2

vale ravine
#

cause ohm, ravenous void is a thing lol

quiet hearth
#

nope, gotta use apathy for global pen

vale ravine
#

sadge

sterile latch
quiet hearth
#

atrophy are the gloves Im thinking of, man I need sleep

vale ravine
#

i think this might be it then, looked over all

#

im afraid we didnt reach ten 😦

quiet hearth
#

we passed 10

sharp moat
#

what area level does the monument of protection start to drop at?

quiet hearth
#

ignite, frostbite, electrify, bleed, poison, abyssal decay, time rot, doom, future strike,lacerate..so right at 10 my bad

jade cedar
#

meh, i egg'd it but it didnt give me anything good

bright nest
quiet hearth
#

what's funny is I will have at least 40 pen for each of them XD

vale ravine
#

get all of the shreds from blessings lol

quiet hearth
#

Im gonna need those for resits what are you talking about lol

#

...are we gonna count non damaging ailments in here too?

vale ravine
#

nah that's cheating

#

this build would have been great with a pre-nerf mad alchemist ladle lol

quiet hearth
#

wouldn't work because you need the ruby fang set

vale ravine
#

ah ye cleaver as well

#

keep forgetting about it

quiet hearth
#

..now I gotta figure out how the heck to get frostbite in here

vale ravine
#

who needs armor from blessing am i right

bleak breach
#

aight, fighting two whole bosses in a row for the last reg mono is annoying

quiet hearth
#

my only option are snowdrift xD

vale ravine
#

iiiii meeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaan

#

snowdrift aint bad 😄

bleak breach
#

make one mistake on the second boss and i get basically instakilled then i have to redo the whole 2-3 min first boss fight -_-

vale ravine
#

ye i might have bad news for you, but that's how it's gonna be from now on Pig lol

quiet hearth
#

frostbite is the only one we realistically cant scale too well

sterile latch
quiet hearth
#

oh, there's a blessing XD

vale ravine
bleak breach
#

just feels like a waste of my time when the difficulty between the two bosses is so drastic, first guy is a pushover i just lack the dps to deal with him quickly

#

i am still 13 levels under but up till now +20 under was no problem

vale ravine
#

ye harbies are def a step up in difficulty

quiet hearth
#

they are likely a bit overtuned but that's new content for you

bleak breach
#

the mechanics are cool tho, i just wish the beams weren't lagon level dps XD

vale ravine
#

i dunno, i like that we have a challenge but ye maybe the regular mono intro harbi could be a tad easier

bleak breach
#

i touch that beam and within a few frames i'm dead

sterile latch
quiet hearth
#

so, we have to drop frostbite if we want this to actually work, but at the very least, bleed, ignite, electrify, time rot, abyssal decay, and doom will easily all fit in

vale ravine
#

hooolyyyyyyy

quiet hearth
#

those some good toesies

bleak breach
vale ravine
#

hybrod health or bust for me personally but i hope it will fetch some muniez, case the 2LP world splitters cost a fortune
and I have a hunch i will need more than one lol

quiet hearth
#

this is gonna be so jank, I love it

bleak breach
#

lagon's is fun tho cuz it's a lot easier to read, but if we're bein honest it's genuinely a skill issue so i cant complain too much

vale ravine
#

is that the guy with the big hammer?

#

if yes, just literally run around it in a circle until it dies

bleak breach
#

campaign boss lagon, or am i misspelling his name, octopus god dude

vale ravine
#

no i mean the harbi you are struggling with

quiet hearth
#

yeah he always sucks, you either dont get hit by lagon at that point in teh game or you die

bleak breach
#

ah, it's some chick with a spear i think

vale ravine
#

ah ye she is a pain

bleak breach
#

the beam in question is the one that goes in a circle with all elements

#

the boss right before her i can just tank his beam with leech lol

vale ravine
#

so the intro harbie is random lol, that's prob not a good idea

sterile latch
#

Maxroll might eventually have guides for all the habringers

bleak breach
#

kinda fun to rip your hair out until you figure it out tho

vale ravine
#

when in doubt, run around in a circle seems to work most of the time lol

bleak breach
#

yeah that's the skill issue part haha, i keep mistiming it and running too fast or slow

sterile latch
#

Yeah mobs in this game like to use big attacks first and they like to attack where you were not where u r

#

Half my dodging is just not standing still

bleak breach
#

screw it, lemme see if i can tank her beam with leech too

vale ravine
#

Narrator: he couldnt

sweet lark
#

Anybody going crazy on Vk this cycle ?

obtuse perch
#

Lagon's breath surely is survivable for the half second you need to get to its other side?

vale ravine
#

ehhhhhh, depends on server ticks

obtuse perch
sweet hazel
obtuse perch
#

There's vks too lol even the occasional pal.

vale ravine
#

all my homies play bonk

sweet lark
#

Yeah I saw fg was getting some love, nothing crazy I just see the same copy and paste shield bash

sweet hazel
sweet hazel
obtuse perch
#

This isn't the mage channel

bleak breach
obtuse perch
sweet lark
#

Are the minions any good ? That’s the only reason I’d make a fg

vale ravine
#

i wanted to buy a mana ammy for my ES build and quickly realized it's not happening

sweet hazel
#

For some reason the Maxroll hammer Nova FG guide doesn't use Sun Seal or rings/affixes that are dual throwing speed and reduced throwing cost, which is wild.

obtuse perch
sweet hazel
#

Much higher dps and you have zero mana management ever with the setup.

sweet lark
sweet hazel
sweet lark
#

Maybe I’ll try making a minion melee hybrid

obtuse perch
#

You don't know how insane I actually am.

#

I do not use a traversal skill.

sweet lark
#

I’m coming back from vacation tomorrow so I’m trying to see what’s working so far

sweet lark
obtuse perch
#

If you're going hybrid, might I present to you, manifest armor?

sweet hazel
#

Our class is finally good, after so long of being the worst.

obtuse perch
#

Manifest armor lets you run zero minion stats and still have an effective minion.

vale ravine
#

paladins would like to have a word lol

sweet lark
#

I like the look of the swords ⚔️ gives me terraprisma vibes from terraria if you guys know what that is

vale ravine
#

HH pallies were like premier in 1.0

obtuse perch
#

I have not played terraria since wall of flesh was new.

sweet hazel
sweet lark
#

Go give that a play thru brother I wish I could experience it all fresh again

obtuse perch
#

Nah it's just too much grind for me

jade cedar
#

if want to go auto smite from warpath, should i go all in spell void and ignore melee?

sweet hazel
#

I could never get in to Terraria. Something about side-scrollee Minecraft Clone didn't rub me the right way.

obtuse perch
#

Especially the one where I go all over the world to get all the mats for the best gear only to have to go all over the world AGAIN for the best mats AGAIN except everything kills me harder now.

sweet lark
#

Has anybody messed with the changes to void beams ?

obtuse perch
#

Void beams?

sweet hazel
#

Erasing Strike is like Vengeance, not sure what they could do to make it actually usable short of a full rework

obtuse perch
#

Vengeance is a good setup skill.

sweet lark
obtuse perch
#

It gives you a lot of defenses which is cool.

sweet hazel
bleak breach
#

hehe, screw ur beams lady, i've got patience on my side

vale ravine
#

that's a take

sweet lark
#

I love erasing strike during leveling but it falls off hard quick. I feel like the void beams arnt being used to their potential. I think they also changed shield bash to more consistently spawn void beams in as well. Not sure

sweet hazel
obtuse perch
#

I kinda wanna try void smite one day.

bleak breach
#

does "x% increased class specific shard drop rate" mean like +1 to warpath for example?

sweet lark
sweet hazel
obtuse perch
vale ravine
#

I guess hitting for 2-5M per hit multiple times a second is now bad, got it
sentinel is never not meta because of damage, it is because of survivability. coincidentally if a sentinel build solves survivability it becomes meta even if it does way less damage than an ES build, see HH

obtuse perch
sweet hazel
sweet hazel
obtuse perch
#

Vengeance is kinda like that too. You can run it but you don't usually build around it. I think it's good for smelter's wrath, especially if you use 2H.

#

Can't go wrong with extra DR.

sweet hazel
#

Unless you're a Mage, then have fun having 16k ward standing in front of something and spamming Glacier every 0.1s.

polar spire
sweet lark
vale ravine
polar spire
obtuse perch
#

Does anyone ever play void smite?

sweet lark
#

I think the hammer guys do

sweet hazel
polar spire
sweet hazel
polar spire
#

Also don't mind me, im slowly scrolling down catching up on chat

vale ravine
#

ye it's kinda you tbh, but hey, each to its own
and ye it did push up to 800-1k range in 1.0

sweet lark
#

Good or bad erasing strike gives me the most dopamine out of any skill when it works

sweet hazel
#

At least Shield Rush is actually dope now.

obtuse perch
crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,017, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 173, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 30 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 128% / 76% / 87% / 90% / 83% / 61% / 76%
▸ EHP: 2,301 / 2,301 / 2,301 / 2,769 / 2,301 / 1,986 / 2,301

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 245
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (65)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (1,699)
▸ Block Chance: 37%, Mitigation: 35% (629)

Damage Types:

Physical, Void / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Forge Strike (21)
Multistrike (20)
Manifest Armor (20)
Ring Of Shields (20)
Volatile Reversal (20)

Used unique items:
polar spire
polar spire
sweet hazel
#

I will admit I was disheartened to see the sheer amount of bugs still present. Especially the Co-Op ones

polar spire
bleak breach
#

oh wow, empowered echos are uh, more difficult, perhaps i should not go in 23 levels under for this hmm

obtuse perch
#

Sadly they do not have the manpower to fix every single issue right away.

sweet hazel
vale ravine
polar spire
obtuse perch
vale ravine
#

ye it's not about levels, but you need to get your surviability in order

sweet hazel
polar spire
obtuse perch
#

Oddly enough, doing a few rounds of empowered timelines could help you get strong enough to handle empowered timelines.

cosmic ivy
#

got another one almost max roll

polar spire
sweet hazel
sweet lark
vale ravine
cosmic ivy
#

to the egg it goes

vale ravine
#

i got t6 damage over time...

cosmic ivy
#

previous one did not do well

vale ravine
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F

polar spire
vale ravine
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aaand this is why there arent enough 0 LP spltters on the market lol

sweet hazel
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I got this to happen in my egg.
Literal best in slot affix for it.

polar spire
obtuse perch
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I got an arboreal circuit with t6 health from like my first nemesis in campaign. Never got anything good after that.

polar spire
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when it was working
Shield rush has always been the greatest hardest hitting dot stacker

obtuse perch
simple raven
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its confirmed. Boss ward mechanic is a bit bugged. It does not always produce a ward

sweet hazel
polar spire
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Because of its sheer amount of "more" modifiers, and being able to hit 3 times per press

polar spire
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And if you mashed the everliving crap out of shield rush, you could hit 9-12 times per second

ionic spade
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sadly online its gonna die and desync

polar spire
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Couple that with T7 all resists while channeling on relic, and shield rush was poggies

simple raven
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i just did this clip and they said its the first time they saw it. u can clearly see 2 first diamonds break without producing a ward, but the next 2 does produce a ward

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as a thorns FG i do NOT have the dps (as seen) to break a ward in one shot, but it still didnt produce a ward on the first 2 thresholds

polar spire
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But the difference here, is shield rush can run ward on traversal boots + HH, wheres werebear cant

ionic spade
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anything that can slightly push enemies can also desync the bane of my existence

polar spire
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Ward on traversal boots + shield rush spam is hilariously op

obtuse perch
simple raven
polar spire
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Spriggan dudu buddies heavily capitalize on allies running sig's

cosmic ivy
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missed t7 mana 😭

simple raven
obtuse perch
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I wanna play a thorns werebear now.

sweet hazel
polar spire
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Build cdr and stun duration, you could solo every boss in the game stunlocking it to death. I still remember a couple years back 2 sent enjoyers were cheesing every fight doing exactly this, just rotating shield bashes

sweet hazel
obtuse perch
polar spire
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Yea i specifically told devs they're gonna need to make these new harbingers/pinnacle bosses stun immune, a higher shield bash cd wont stop 4 sentinels playing together and shield bash stunlocking a pinnacle to death

celest flume
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (72) / Paladin (11)

General:

▸ Health: 2,555, Regen: 149/s
▸ Mana: 227, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 38 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 125% / 90% / 137% / 77% / 136% / 83%
▸ EHP: 6,643 / 6,643 / 6,643 / 8,596 / 6,643 / 6,643 / 6,643

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 621
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,104)

Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

Fire, Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Forge Strike (33)
Healing Hands (20)
Multistrike (26)
Manifest Armor (27)
Void Cleave (26)

sweet hazel
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Glacier sorcs can mass freeze him in place as well

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Pinnacles need to be immune, lol.

polar spire
ionic spade
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too fast i guess

vale ravine
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they were a little bit over confident that the new freeze and stun nerfs will do the job i guess

cosmic ivy
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no way

polar spire
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Which makes me think forge strike bleeders will have no issue, since forge strike bleeders build 1000%+ stun chance

sweet hazel
obtuse perch
vale ravine
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funnily enough that's enough crit to cap lol

polar spire
bright nest
cosmic ivy
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yeah that was 1st empower btw

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i kinda wanted 2 LP for this

bright nest
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whats the reason so many folk are nuking the CD from Forge strike while also having a 2nd main attack skill, makes no sense.

polar spire
charred stag
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once you've killed a harbringer in a timeline, is there any reason to keep repeating that or just skip?

obtuse perch
obtuse perch
sweet hazel
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Ohh like uncheck it yeah

bright nest
cosmic ivy
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ok man

bright nest
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wouldn't it be better to use rive then anyway over multistrike

obtuse perch
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Depends.

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Multistrike gives guaranteed summons.

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But if you wanna use rive instead go for it. It's preference.

charred stag
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thanks @sweet hazel @obtuse perch

obtuse perch
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Honestly if we're talking mana builders I unironically prefer vengeance.

bright nest
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tankier too

obtuse perch
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Tanky is the main reason why.

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Also if you REALLY need mana fast, vengeance has a chest affix that gives even more mana.

bright nest
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problem is that warpath is prob the best way to play the minion version and I hate it

obtuse perch
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I use multistrike.

bright nest
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same

obtuse perch
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I don't think warpath is the best at all. A build that relies on a channeled skill is a whole different beast.

bright nest
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the fact you don't have to give people a prostate exam to hit your multistrike and the fact you can keep moving is extreemly good
while generating minions without having to hit at all.

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I wonder actually also if there is a dual-wield setup that might be viable vs blade catcher / maw

obtuse perch
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Like you can be quite effective but you're going to be making a build that can spin to win constantly which means you do not want a button heavy build.

topaz gale
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Holly nemesis the best 45 lvl and t7 330% phys DMG on spear

ionic spade
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you can also use resistances while channeling but no way optimal once they start dying

obtuse perch
#

I also don't think warpath meshes super well with volatile reversal.

foggy pebble
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what do yall use for mace ES in place of void cleave? Smite?

obtuse perch
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Or void cleave.

vale ravine
obtuse perch
#

Or anything that causes you to not be spinning.

bleak breach
foggy pebble
obtuse perch
bright nest
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if they ever rework multistrike it be awesome

obtuse perch
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I mean multistrike does what I need it to do.

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It gives me summons.

bleak breach
foggy pebble
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is there a way to make lunge cast without a target?

obtuse perch
vale ravine
#

nemesis can also give you higher weaver will items which you can then cash in

obtuse perch
foggy pebble
bleak breach
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dodge boss slam
VR
attack again

obtuse perch
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Oh wait it's a WW item

weary wren
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The damage buff from VR is too OP to ignore for any build honesly and its instant so it wont break your channel

bright nest
obtuse perch
obtuse perch
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This is another reason why I use multistrike instead

bright nest
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I hate VR so much, I'm not taking it on my build. You can't stop me

obtuse perch
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I can just stand in 1 place for 2s and then use it.

bleak breach
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it's fun to incorporate a lil bit of thinking with the spinnnnnnn lol

bleak breach
obtuse perch
#

Also I just don't like channeling warpath. Surely it's not that weird?

bleak breach
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nah not weird at all, ppl like dif things, i just wouldnt say VR is bad for warpath

obtuse perch
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Warpath also doesn't utilize time and thingamabob.

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Faith, I think it was faith.

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Btw, I'm starting to understand that the purpose of axe throw procs is to proc further procs?

bleak breach
obtuse perch
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Not just mana, it's also % based healing.

charred stag
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damn 29k ES crit, new PR

bleak breach
polar spire
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (49) / Paladin (23)

General:

▸ Health: 2,708, Regen: 46/s
▸ Mana: 109, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 4 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 77% / 75% / 106% / 75% / 77% / 80%
▸ EHP: 8,342 / 8,342 / 8,300 / 16,431 / 8,300 / 8,342 / 8,342

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 542
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (9,281)

Damage Types:

Physical, Lightning, Void / Spell, Melee

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy

Used skills:

Volatile Reversal (20)
Sigils Of Hope (20)
Forge Strike (20)
Multistrike (20)
Smite (20)

Used unique items:

None

bleak breach
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i'm not saying you're wrong at all btw, just providing support for channeling warpath lol

polar spire
obtuse perch
bright nest
#

a nice, smite as a movement skill, forgot that was a thing.

obtuse perch
#

Oh it has a teleport iirc?

bleak breach
polar spire
obtuse perch
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Why would you use it instead of HH?

bright nest
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Does the Fiery justice node stack consumption any interaction with heated forge?

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it doesn't right, since it has to be direct

obtuse perch
#

Like the build I'm using works just fine without the unique ringx2.

polar spire
foggy pebble
bleak breach
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😔 VR hate

vale ravine
#

they will learn

obtuse perch
#

My cat is petting me.

polar spire
bleak breach
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idek what causes it but there's some crazy dmg stacking happening when i get blind, time rot x12, 2-3 warpath echos, and vr on an enemy into more warpath, absolutely nukes some enemies seemingly randomly

obtuse perch
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I like it, now that I took the time to study it.

bright nest
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prob one of the better movement skills for forge knight, smite, if you're not running VC

polar spire
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FS stacks stun chance for more damage, nothings going to hit you regardless since they'll get stunlocked to death

charred stag
#

damn shade wont give me Maw axe, 3rd siphon ring in a row and of course no LP either.

foggy pebble
polar spire
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And the boss DR no longer exists, so more vr damage isnt required

obtuse perch
#

But also it's more damage.

polar spire
vale ravine
#

i mean no more damage multipliers are required technically but boy is it the biggest one

polar spire
#

If you have all the time in the world and can survive, VR isnt needed

bleak breach
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ha, "time" + VR, nice

foggy pebble
#

mind blown

polar spire
#

I mean, ive made an afk focus mage build where i afk on T4 julra, face tank her nukes ALL while im not even in the room anymore, im in the kitchen making food and come back 10-15 min later to julra being dead

obtuse perch
#

Don't you need to hold down the button?

polar spire
#

If you can survive, thats all you need
@obtuse perch numlock autocast

charred stag
bleak breach
#

i think this node is being overlooked possibly lol, this is an easy 2-4 second 48% more dmg buff

obtuse perch
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Only for you though

polar spire
obtuse perch
#

Useless for minions.

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Also requires stacking time rot.

bleak breach
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stacking time rot isnt that hard to achieve

obtuse perch
#

That said from the wording it seems this also increases the damage from time rot?

obtuse perch
polar spire
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However, though its been super nerfed, one shot judgement with VR + smite teleports and javelin dashes (they dont share traversal cd's) was an extremely fun 1 shot build. Everyone called 1 shot judgement SLOW AF, but not mine, mine was flipping through maps at high speeds like a poe flicker strike with 2-3s VR cd's

bleak breach
polar spire
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Sure theres a meta, but LE isnt hard, just build smart, not poe smart, but you should be fine with a half a*s donkey build

obtuse perch
bleak breach
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oh, i was speaking generally, not specifically for your case

polar spire
#

I've made 350+ builds over the last 5+ years, and 90% of them are god awful trash that can still handle at least 200-300c

charred stag
#

yeah VR helped fill some of the gap I had with dps but still feel like I get hit by a truck sometimes and can still get melted by certain things

cosmic ivy
#

200c harbinger, 2 erasing strike casts did 25% + 50% to ward 💀

obtuse perch
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I run a shield build so I hope I have enough juice to keep up the defense game.

polar spire
cosmic ivy
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i don even build damage is the thing

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just max debuff the boss and it go bye bye

polar spire
vale ravine
#

ye wanted to say wait until there is a T7 flat void damage on that splitter, it's gonna be insane

cosmic ivy
#

4 more to go

obtuse perch
polar spire
cosmic ivy
polar spire
#

And smelters gets 100% crit

obtuse perch
charred stag
cosmic ivy
#

not really optimized

bright nest
#

ugh smite needs a target?
RIP THE DREAM

obtuse perch
#

If you need targetless it seems that void cleave or healing hands are the way to go.

bright nest
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it says "target location"
but it needs an enemy it would seem

obtuse perch
#

Maybe it means "target's location".

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Still, has anybody ever tried using void smite?

bright nest
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wasn't krip smiting with void

bleak breach
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i might try it but it'd require reworking my build a bit, i'm not really liking the heal right now from smite with javelin, doesnt feel needed with the leech

proper flare
#

Hi champs, so i'm rebooting my LE journey now with 1.1 is live, I'm a melee guy so so i'm sticking to the Sentinel, anyone has a build they can recommend for casual leveling? 🙂

wise rune
proper flare
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tbh I havent played that much but last time i ran some "spinn to win" build but im down for anything

wise rune
#

void knight cleave + erasing strike build is pretty fun for levelling, on paladin levelling with spell damage warpath is really nice and easy

kindred condor
#

hey guys I have a question I am a bit conbfused do I need to relevel now in this cycle?

proper flare
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yes

wise rune
kindred condor
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oh I see thank you

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I am struggling to choose between palaadin or void

wise rune
#

you can't go wrong with either really they both have a lot of fun builds

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i'm playing warpath paladin right now but i plan on playing a void knight after

kindred condor
#

I was a rogue last cycle but that got aa bit boring

bright nest
#

til dots on gear (boots) also apply to forge minions

kindred condor
#

any recommendations on guild? is cof better or mg?

polar spire
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OH HELLO I JUST REALIZED A NEW RANGED LIGHTNING BUILD

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Javelin, smite, forge strike, healing hands
Forge strike has the ability to be castable from range and still count as melee, HH is used on the target of a melee hit, javelin has 25 reduced mana cost of next melee, and HH has electrify with electrify spread. I can run the jav + fs loop with smite on throw idols and run around spam chuckin lightning everywhere

wise rune
kindred condor
#

I do not like trading at all

somber swan
#

Hey guys HH Seraph Blade base crit chance increase with sword mod " % melee crit chance " ?

wise rune
#

then definitely go CoF

polar spire
polar spire
tidal fulcrum
#

Is there a way to get the Javalin trail thing to be bigger?

somber swan
sterile latch
#

Man getting 100% crit chance for forged weapons is tough without legendary gear. Wonder if that no cd shield bash will be better late game

vale ravine
#

send help

somber swan
wise rune
#

is this a good ring for FG

fiery stirrup
#

does healing hands autocast triger prayer?

charred stag
#

this glyph does not exist istg

stoic cape
#

Any other VK enjoyers looking to make a Ravaging Aura Void Cleave build with the new unique scepter, abberoths command?

polar spire
#

I am currently crafting am abomination and the sentinel gods would frown upon what i am doing right now

sterile latch
charred stag
#

now level 88 and never seen it again

sterile latch
#

This chance to cast smite doesn't work on forged weapons right?

polar spire
bright nest
#

i mean that bleed build seemed pretty delightful

sterile latch
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (74) / Paladin (19)

General:

▸ Health: 2,669, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 516, Regen: 17/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 94 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 81% / 78% / 107% / 82% / 92% / 80%
▸ EHP: 6,292 / 6,292 / 6,292 / 10,390 / 6,292 / 6,292 / 6,292

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 534
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (6,037)
▸ Block Chance: 4%, Mitigation: 0% (0)

Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Void Cleave (20)
Forge Strike (24)
Manifest Armor (27)
Warpath (22)
Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:
sterile latch
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Nvm its a status build I guess

fair burrow
#

Sorry to piggyback but if you went with falcon fists, what weapon would you want to use? Was looking at radiant axe with its fire melee dmg and fire pen implicits vs trident for crit multi

sweet hazel
#

Meanwhile; 57 Runes of Ascendency.

charred stag
sweet hazel
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Out of the three I dropped, all three have failed. omegalulportal

wise rune
#

i have 3 so far and i'm not even at empowered yet

sweet hazel
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That's some crazy RNG. Blessed.

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Glyph of Despair is like Ber levels of rare in D2.

wise rune
#

idk that seems pretty standard from all the other times i've played

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i think you two are just super unlucky

sweet hazel
#

Throughout last season and this one so far I don't drop them often at all, and when it comes to them succeeding/failing, I'm very unlucky.

polar spire
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (18) / Forge Guard (36) / Paladin (29)

General:

▸ Health: 2,041, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 102 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / -25% / 49% / 9% / 37% / 62% / 27%
▸ EHP: 4,598 / 2,299 / 3,649 / 3,191 / 3,320 / 4,051 / 3,096

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 408
▸ Dodge Chance: 13% (408)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,737)

Damage Types:

Void, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Volatile Reversal (20)
Abyssal Echoes (20)
Rive (25)
Healing Hands (24)
Void Cleave (20)

sweet hazel
polar spire
#

Trying to force black blade of chaos to not solely be a rogue weapon

sweet hazel
polar spire
#

Oh i can imagine

#

Frost claw mordita's with T7 armor shred slammed on is hilarious

sweet hazel
#

I'll have to link the better FG Novadin build I made when I can import it to LETools.
Guide on Maxroll is good but it doesn't factor in the new items/affixes.

wise rune
#

😦 i put my own sword into that nemesis

bright nest
#

Can the smite node from multistrike make it so that smite does attack the same target you're multi striking?

sweet hazel
sweet hazel
wise rune
bright nest
sweet hazel
wise rune
#

the smite on melee hit sword

cosmic ivy
#

☠️

bright nest
#

ohw that one yeah I got that one.

wise rune
#

IT HIT

sweet hazel