🔱┃sentinel

[cosmic bloom]

there is just 2 javelin, lunge, and smite can be triggered with javelin at cost of getting 6 seconds cooldown aint talking about piano builds im talking about functional 1 button habilities

[quiet hearth]

+4 judgement good lord

Javalin is meant to be a main skill, it has it's own interactions, not many skills have interactions at all when you change their functionality

[cobalt socket]

but dnt know what build to use it

[quiet hearth]

mana stack judgement obviously

[cosmic bloom]

almost all habilities have interactions lol

[quiet hearth]

I never said they didn't? You wanna complain take it to the suggestion boards because Javalin already works and has established builds so I genuinely dont know what your angle is here.

[cosmic bloom]

already did and reported few more bugs 😌

my angle is please stop the gaslightning dont get angry and try to get along with me on this im beggin you tell me an interaction that works fine without lunge (wich is just mele) or smite wich is 6 sec CD

[quiet hearth]

I'm not gaslighting anything or angry, but Im also not going to carry on with a conversation I have zero interest in when Ive said my opinion on it.

[cosmic bloom]

im asking if there is builds besides lunge or/and smite 6sec cd with interactions over other skills

the answer is no broh, and thats ok 👌 ill w8 until they develop it, i mean i can go spear but without these interactions is gonna feel bad so ilm better w8 relax

[dusk raptor]

Whats your thought on: Orian's Sun Seal? Feels more like a quality of life than anything. Is it worth without high legendary potential? Could be using so much stuff instead of these. i dropped one with almost perfect rolls and 1 portential

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, basically qol, it's not bad, but rings slots are really competitive.

[dusk raptor]

They shouldnt make us use uniques to get qol =/
Those healing effectvness and increased armor is whatever. It could free me from investing "sigil durantion" but still...

[quiet hearth]

they aren't making you use anything, it's for people who would rather not manually upkeep. it's an extra option not a must have

[dusk raptor]

Yes but quality of life shouldnt be a mechanic you get from loot and affixes, etc. It should just have a toggle option. Imagine having an unique to change the color of your filter or whatever lol

[quiet hearth]

That is literally why we have items for, it's meant for different playstyles for different people. They had a mechanic in mind when they built the skill. And changing loot filter color is far different that doubling the duration of a powerful buff ability. Dont it, dont use it, simple enough.

[cosmic bloom]

dlthunder im with you in this one imagine having a toggle button on the sigil tree that turn it into permanent at cost of something else some curses or things im other classes are already a toggled skill

[foggy wyvern]

Why should we not get some QOL from loot or affixes? Toggle makes no sense, they would just bake it into the skill since everyone would use it anyways

[cosmic bloom]

so the improvement to the hability is the ring, you will end up paying the ring to get rid of the penalty of the ring thats amazing

it could be a great idea 💡 😀

[dusk raptor]

Because its QOL and its not a game mechanic We do not have itens for QOL. Imagine having to farm an item to get a better UI or something. This is insanity.
Or lets remove the ability to see the tier on the item. Now we need an unique for this. This is beyond insanity

[quiet hearth]

You do not need a unique, it is entirely option to use it. In the end, it's your opinion, and I have mine. nothing insane about it.

[foggy wyvern]

This is a massive false equivalence....

[dusk raptor]

Of couse it is. QOL shoudnt be an option. We should just have it

[cosmic bloom]

dlhunter i think 🤔 it must have a toggle button on the tree that make a pebalty in something else, and if you want to get rid of the penalty then you farm the ring 💍

[dusk raptor]

The more QOL the better. It doesnt change balance or anything. It just make the game healtier

[foggy wyvern]

we also don't need the QOL from this ring..

[quiet hearth]

auto casting sigils is a huge shift in game balance

[foggy wyvern]

^^

[dusk raptor]

This is another discussion. @quiet hearth Ok, but thats was not you initial point.

[quiet hearth]

move your goal posts all you want, like I said, you have your opinion, I have mine, we both can move on with life. It's a video game not a thesis.

[dusk raptor]

I thought it was a discussion channel. And 5 phrases is not a thesis, but ok im moving on.

[cosmic bloom]

nope is the draven chanel 😉 just reporting his rude treatment and moving on

[quiet hearth]

whatever floats your boat my friend

[foggy wyvern]

what rude treatment? lol

[cosmic bloom]

you are ok 👍 👌 is about draven

[glad pike]

Any unique I should be looking into for VK? So far I purchased a cheap Dreamthorn for leveling and I'm failing to find a better weapon

[quiet hearth]

Dreamthorn is gonna carry you as a melee vk for a good while honestly

[glad pike]

Yeah my Erasing Strike got like 1k extra damage the moment I equipped

[quiet hearth]

you have the boots too?

[glad pike]

Nope which boots? Unless you mean any speed boots in which case I'm gucci

[quiet hearth]

darkstride, they make you go faster based on your added void dmg and ad a charge to void cleave

[glad pike]

I will get them now, thank you

[sour elk]

Sword catcher is great for any melee build

[turbid dome]

dreamthorn will carry you until you can get a apathy's maw from a shade if your doing a melee hit vk

[rose comet]

Any good guide for FG Shield Bash out there revised for 1.1?

[glad pike]

I am, I will write down that name. But is an axe the absolute best option? So far I'm enjoying the reduced recharge time of ES by wielding a sword

[neat turret]

does forge guard have a shield throw build?

[turbid dome]

Apathy’s maw comes with a T7 flat melee void damage, if you get a 1 lp one you can slap another flat melee hood dmg affix onto it

This is ontop of faster leeching and the doom effect it puts on things (dot that makes them take increased melee damage)

It provides such an unethical amount of damage (that you can double if your using rive)

It’s also a shade drop so no matter what your doing (other than arena) your gonna end up with a bunch of them so most likely your get one with lp

Basically a longer cooldown doesn’t matter because everything just dies (assuming your using void cleave to amp your erasing strike)

[glad pike]

If by amp you mean using both for hit damage, yes

Although I'm losing some VC damage for grabbing the displacement nodes

[turbid dome]

I was meaning using the obliterater node on void cleave (next erasing strike is a crit)

And the 5 time rot node in combo with erasing strikes 100% more damage vs enemies with 12 time rot node

[glad pike]

I will look into them. Thank you

[junior plank]

is forge strike as a main dps skill viable? Im thinking about pairing it with the new world splitter axe

[spark monolith]

Does orrbyss distance from center not matter anymore for corruption pushing?

[quiet hearth]

Im doing it right now and it's been slapping everything down. The pen is so strong

[junior plank]

i just wanna be able to one shot and idk if i should go forge strike or judgement lol.

[raven socket]

healing hands is so fun

[foggy pebble]

man i love void knight

[quiet hearth]

both feel about equal to me tbh

[stark blade]

Lol who put this Shield Bash guide on maxgg together. Am I missing something or is it a complete mana hog

[foggy pebble]

love nemesis

[jade cedar]

where can i see a list of skills that are considered 'instant'?

[quiet hearth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/

[void nimbus]

whats the verdict on funny shield bash build? any good

[clear ledge]

Is this bugged? According to my calculations I should be at 100% crit chance but I still see non crits

[tribal crane]

4second duration

[clear ledge]

Yeah with my attack speed it should stack up to 4 times and be constantly refreshed and stay at 4 stacks right?

Or maybe it's concentration that's bugged

[vapid badge]

I was thinking automatic divine flare every 10 seconds would be cool concept not to fully build around but just a little secondary damage effect that could help with clear

I guess it would be every 20 seconds cause it needs to recast then recast again to consume

[jade cedar]

thanks

[frail niche]

I'll be honest, it's real weird that Forge Strike has so, so few nodes that actually boost the minions

Like you can literally pick up all of them in like 22 points? bonus skills just doesn't give you much

[quiet hearth]

honestly I think it's a good thing, because you can get whatever you want out of it without having to do too much

my big gripe is the no CD node locked behind a 4pt that half of it becomes worthless after that

[frail niche]

It just means the scaling of the skill isn't great, you can't use it by itself really

[quiet hearth]

Im actually doing a build that is doing just that, mana is a pain though

[frail niche]

No I mean like, focusing on just forged weapons, no manifest armor and no using forge strike is kinda meh

[quiet hearth]

The forged wpns feel kind of like a bonus honestly because FS looks like it was meant to be a bonk still and then you just have some extra dps while you run around and it's on cd

[white sonnet]

has anybody done the maxroll Shield Bash Forge Guard before getting Monument of Protection?

[quiet hearth]

It's so weird to be trying to stack bleed and just having almost an equal amount of ignite chance

is there anything that converts ignite to bleed?

[marsh warren]

does forge guard's summon forge weapons also benefit from unique weapon abilities? For example, if you were wielding the last laugh legendary you get to execute enemies at low hp. would the forged weapons also execute at low hp or does it retain only the mundane stats?

[serene bough]

i did not follow max roll i have never looked up a guide just played from level 15 or something

[quiet hearth]

forged weapons only inherit the stats, not the unique abilities I think

[serene bough]

it was good mana is a problem but i had some that sovled it early

[serene bough]

They said base and any mode that can be crafted with shards effect them

[marsh warren]

awesome ty @quiet hearth @serene bough

[quiet hearth]

unique mods dont work

[serene bough]

i am playing shield bash but the game is trying to tell me other wise might swap to forged weapons with this

rerolled parry into 160% fire damage

[marsh warren]

is there a way to hover over the summon weapon damage like you would for your base skills?

[quiet hearth]

nice, Im thinking of switching to ignite just because detonating ground can really stack up ignites on bosses

[serene bough]

not really i don't think minion skills get any sort of dps calc

[cosmic ivy]

gg

[velvet swallow]

Hello again guys!

Been up all night/morning leveling my HH/Rive Paladin who is now at 47 and I'm having a blast, BUT there is only one issue with one of the abilities I use that I hate with utmost intensity: "Sigils of Hope"...

I have to stop my killing spree to recast this every now and then and it's SO annoying, but I don't know what to replace it with. Any suggestions?

I'm currently using: Rive, Holy Aura, Healing Hands, Sigils of Hope and soon Volatile Reversal. What would be a good replacement for Sigils of Hope? Preferably something that doesn't force me to stop. Something that adds or contributes to the fluideness(I don't know if that is even a word lol) with the rest of the abilities/skills I use. Please help! 😦

[fair hollow]

There is a ring that auto casts it

[velvet swallow]

What is it called and where can I get my hands on it?

[fair hollow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsGZWI

[velvet swallow]

You just saved and made my day. Thank you! 🙂

[potent remnant]

guys, FG, minion build. is this weapon affix bleed on melee hit also apply to minions?

[fair hollow]

For the sentinel minions yes

[potent remnant]

nice for shield bash ^^

[potent remnant]

manifest armour doesnt count in for that affix?

[fair hollow]

It does

[potent remnant]

ok I see, also, armour shred, is this statistic armour shred chance somewhere? I cant see on C tab

[hoary grove]

Question i cant find the answer to lol, On the trailer for this new update i saw a sentinal using warpath, and the AOE was MASSIVE. does anyone know if that was a unique doing that?

[fair hollow]

There are nodes on tree, idols and afixxes that increase area

[uncut urchin]

alright i think im done playing my smite paladin, empowered mono just destroying me lol

might reroll a voidknight warpath

[potent remnant]

pala is more tanky then VK
prob you are undergeared/underleveled for empowers

check stream Carn_ he is playing smite pala and he get first sentinel 100lvl on hc

[uncut urchin]

yea i wasnt doing selfcast
not really something i found interesting

[lost python]

Paladin hammer bleed just did abberoth so maybe it’s not class but build

[uncut urchin]

i think its a skill issue
i just suck

could try and respec to seraph blade

[potent remnant]

its no skill issue, this build play itself. you are for sure got wrong/low level items and prob underleveled for empowers

you should have around 2k life, 3k armour, possibility to generate ward and lots of bonusses to speed cast and spell dmg for smite with autocast healing hands

[spark monolith]

the orian's sun seals stack

proccing two at once

[outer hedge]

im not sure i misunderstand the change on forged weapons, but is it a nerf?

[potent remnant]

what changes?

[outer hedge]

i think base dmg

18 down to 2

[potent remnant]

hmm I dont remember if there was smg nerfed, but for sure you got now more bonus damage from passive tree

[outer hedge]

played forge a long time ago if i can recall correctly i kill stuff faster before

[lost python]

Changes to FG were to make him more end game viable not just destroying early and then being trash

[outer hedge]

yea that's what i read, but i feel lackluster during leveling

[potent remnant]

during leveling i was using throwing skills

throw hammer and later i was testing it with adding shield throw when i dropped 2 idols that casting smite on throwing attacks

[spark monolith]

just go void cleave, top left of tree. insta kill everything with minions

[outer hedge]

if i wanna use that, i gotta give up hammer of lorent

[spark monolith]

lt gives like 175 base fire damage to all the minions for 4 secs

[outer hedge]

yea guess i gotta try that now..gotta change loot filter

[spark monolith]

it would kill bosses in 2 seconds

[outer hedge]

speaking of bosses, i think the blue hp bar thingy is new, right?

[spark monolith]

yeah, slows down fights

[molten spire]

do forge guard minions still scale with %minion damage bonuses?

[spark monolith]

yes

[tribal crane]

interesting, you can use voidcleave while spinning with warpath when u have aberroths command

i wonder if theres a build idea there with ravaging aura+warpath

[outer hedge]

shortly after talking about forged weapons, i changed loot filter and found 2h axe with 50% minion dmg bonus yipeee..now i kill stuff much FASTER

[potent remnant]

yea 2h unfortunately seems to be much better choice

I also just switched to 2h and dps going to the roof but survi also went down ;/ 43% block to 11%, and around 500 less armour ;/

[marsh warren]

so is the order in which the scaling tags show up on a skill represent their priority? Kinda like how fire damage scales better than elemental damage because its specific over general in regards to dealing fire damage

[wise rune]

tags dont have any sort of priority, elemental damage gives less than fire damage because elemental damage modifers are just weaker, but if you had 10% elemental damage and 10% fire damage they would do the same thing for a fire skill

[waxen nymph]

Big VC More Dmg of you have Channeled Warpath for at least 2 sec
80% I believe

[marsh warren]

ohhhhh. I completely misunderstood this thank you

[outer hedge]

hmm what to put in void cleave beside buff for minions?

[potent remnant]

healing hands, should be enough

[solid forge]

Cooldown reduction, shred debuff, crit debuff

[potent remnant]

ah, you mean effects on void cleave?

[robust stirrup]

Anyone know if "Grace" for "Smite" makes it actually only heal more HP for allies or does it make it heal myself better too?

[outer hedge]

ah ok..what about nether charge? (additional charge to void cleave which means the buff for minions can stack)?

[wooden crag]

what is nerfd on hh? is it just the ward and its generation?

[ionic spade]

ward is now 1/5th of what it was generation wise
ward decay is now exponential after 4000 ward

[wooden crag]

ooh. thx for the info

[full otter]

can anyone tell me how come my paladin just keeps generating ward when getting hit?
i couldn't find a single ward-related thing on my character

oh nevermind, i got ward on block from Cradle
weird how effective it is, at least in campaign

[turbid dome]

Sub 4K ward (assuming 0 ward decay threshold) is buffed and all your defenses (expect endurance) apply to it. Ward is great

[potent remnant]

ok, try this passsives, just switched completly from 1h-shield to 2h weapon and its much better, much more life and str so I got more armour now

and I will grab this attack speed for axe

Liquid iron is also nice in this build but I will go for smelter's might I think

[barren spire]

When I want to see if an item increase the damage of holy trail I have to go inside the skill and press Alt and check the dmg change... this is quite unhandy, is it the only way?

[cosmic ivy]

how does one kill this boss

[outer hedge]

ah cool..but i dunno if i wanna go after 2h nodes anyway..the first node give bonus to weapons after 5 points..since forgeguard with minions use axe..that node gives bleed chance..do you go for that?

[cosmic ivy]

bro what

[scenic gyro]

play the mechanics, stay close to the boss and move with the beam (depending ony our movement speed)
clear all flame totems
trigger all the lightning orb aoes before the next beam starts

[cosmic ivy]

yeah but the hitbox is so laggy

[scenic gyro]

yea bad ping will be a huge hindrance in that fight
maybe try a different login server

[cosmic ivy]

and doom blast thing is just big bs

[potent remnant]

this one ?

[potent remnant]

you have to almost touch beam ahead of you

[cosmic ivy]

ok i can do it now but the 2nd boss. i dont feel like its possible for me rn

[potent remnant]

i just killed it literally 5 min ago with this gear, you got this mate

[potent remnant]

you died here from void line that is visible here, after 1 sec it blows

[cosmic ivy]

sadly stop to cast

[potent remnant]

dont stop moving to cast when you see boss is putting that line

also, trigger those lightning orbs, just run over them, and they will blow out after like 2 sec, it will make u more place to move

and btw, its melee life 😄 every game got bosses that makes want to you play ranged/caster, you got to have balls to play with biggest mf face to face 😄

[cosmic ivy]

it spawns the orbs mid rotation thing

[potent remnant]

ye ye, but you got time to trigger them

[twilit valley]

Beat it with all rare gear on lvl 82 . This update is pretty crazy tbh . I think within a few months we will see some crazy gear with ways you can upgrade them now

Also the set items has me looking at them , wonder if they are viable this patch

[cosmic ivy]

bro it spawns the rotation thing on top of me sometimes so i cant just dodge it

[twilit valley]

What build ? I tanked smite HH with rare gear and around 3400 ward

[cosmic ivy]

erasing strike

[potent remnant]

erase strike, you can see on his shorts

[twilit valley]

Wonder how high I can get my ward this patch

[potent remnant]

ok, I just entered epowers, on lvl 82 and 2h dmg is great on single target but men xD survi is hard on 100lvl zones 😄

[teal tinsel]

this seems pretty decent for shield bash any ideas what other stuff i should put on it?

[twilit valley]

Guessing around 8-10k will be max ward for my build end game

[potent remnant]

this base is better, moch higher level of block

[twilit valley]

I’m doing mono 100 pretty easily with smite and crap gear . Will save my favor and use soon to gear up

[potent remnant]

yea but smite is op xD

[twilit valley]

Hope so … can’t wait to find good gear

At lvl 85 now and feels like 100 will take forever … grind is real now

[potent remnant]

on monos its easy, empower monos is 100lvl and 80% and more exp

[twilit valley]

Ok cool , I’ll grind a little more soon .. eyes killing took a break

Outside with my chow ..

[potent remnant]

❤️

[turbid dome]

That dog is so fluffy

[barren spire]

anyone? 😦

[twilit valley]

His name is bear

Ok back to the grind , good luck all

[hollow perch]

was 1 attunement always 1% increased HE on paladins?

[potent remnant]

what is unhandy to literaly look at skill tags? xD

[scenic gyro]

no other way currently ingame

[turbid dome]

Bear is amazing

[cosmic ivy]

i beat the boss :D:D:D

[grizzled gate]

Is there a new 1.1 build using Bastion of Honor? I randomly just found it at level 53

[potent remnant]

ok gifs doesnt work so xD

[steady summit]

Had this same question regarding showing the rule number from loot filter - answer is when an item is showing on the ground = open loot filter and only then it shows (its not a toggleable option)

[bleak breach]

what are some of the best mana regen options for void knight?

[outer hedge]

boss just bish slapped you

[austere coral]

Void Well
If you're talking about passive regen, Sentinel in general doesn't have any good options in this department

[bleak breach]

void well?

[cinder wraith]

Lower mana cost of your spells 🙃🤦🏼‍♂️
Sorry but it’s the “only” work around for void knight

[bleak breach]

oh right, thanks

[bleak breach]

yeah i think late game i'll be fine but for tankier enemies early game it's kinda meh, having to take breaks in fighting to regen lol

[jade cedar]

i was wondering why mobs are so fkn tanky 💀

[bleak breach]

oh void well is only on kill, that's not really reliable for boss fights

[hollow spindle]

negative ghost rider

[bleak breach]

didnt see that, but i'm not using erasing strike anyways sadly

[charred stag]

Erasing strike OP. With obliterate node and the other void skill you can get 100% crit rate

[bleak breach]

maybe but it's just not the route for what i wanted

[charred stag]

👍 gotta play what you want to play at the end of the day

[jade cedar]

do void essences have a duration?

[bleak breach]

7 seconds

[bleak breach]

when doing what you want doesnt work out perfectly every time 😔
lol, my experience in most arpgs

[charred stag]

Gonna be a long season so no rush. I had originally started with a pally but already rerolled to a VK.

[late latch]

The paladin levelling build fro maxroll is very good. Made it to 70 last night after half a days work. Very tanky.

[wise rune]

i did the opposite lol

[bleak breach]

I'm currently trying warpath, javelin banner, smite, and uh the void slash traversal.
It's fun but on tankier enemies or sustained fighting I just run out of mana. I am still missing the -6 mana channel cost node for warpath though, but my pool is already just over 100 and it takes forever to regen so I'm getting concerned with the feasibility of the build, we'll see though. Respeccing isn't too bad in last epoch

[grizzled gate]

oh no BoH sucks 😮

[tribal basin]

The Channel cost reductions are the first i took

[bleak breach]

Yeah my channel cost is still like 12/s I think

[wise rune]

taking all of the mana cost nodes on warpath should be a huge help for mana sustain because you'll be able to have almost your full mana regen while channelling warpath

[random elk]

I can't decide which one would be better... Any thoughts?

[bleak breach]

Oh wait, channel doesn't pause mana regen?? (Please don't tell me I've been mistaken on this the whole time)

[tribal basin]

if you have the Ring then Fighting Chance for the Forged Weapons , better would be Falcon Fists

[wise rune]

it used to but they changed it this patch

[random elk]

Am Paladin

[tribal basin]

It doesnt anymore , instead it has base mana regen added to the channel costs

[bleak breach]

Phew,I was abt to feel so stupid, that puts a lot more confidence in my build late game then, especially with smite's mana regen increase

[tribal basin]

Then Try to get Hand of Juddment

[random elk]

yeah but for now?

[charred stag]

didn't like VK?

[tribal basin]

what level are you ?

[random elk]

28

[tribal basin]

also what kind of Pala ? Depending on what you do , Rare gloves with stats you actually need will be better

[random elk]

multistrike, have palarus

[bleak breach]

So if warpath channel cost is say 5 and my base mana regen is 12 does that mean all of my mana regen speed increases are only applied to the 12-5=7/s? Or does it subtract after all the mana regen increases, sorry if that doesn't make any sense lol

[wise rune]

i loved it i just got this sword immediately after i chose my mastery and wanted to make a spell warpath paladin with it

[charred stag]

ahh gotcha. that was my first nemesis drop haha

[bleak breach]

That was another avenue I was considering if 2h axe doesn't work out, doing warpath duel wielding with that sword

[crisp ice]

just spent 5 minutes slowly shield bashing story lagon to death, thats not super promising for the future of this build

[bleak breach]

Lagon is an annoying boss, don't sweat it haha

[wise rune]

base mana cost is 8. so 12 is with all your mana regen modifiers already applied. if you have 12 mana regen and 5 warpath channel cost then you have 7 mana regen per second while using warpath

[crisp ice]

It was just me standing there attacking the whole 5 minutes, I could survive his attacks during the story. Doubt I can during the monoliths.

[bleak breach]

Oh, in that case I'd be concerned haha

[bleak breach]

Oh I was just pulling numbers outta nowhere as an example haha, but this explanation sounds like the channel cost is subtracted after all buffs are applied?

[turbid dome]

Inscribed tablet 👍

[wise rune]

yes after all buffs are applied

[bleak breach]

The origin of my concern is like if I have +100% mana regen and my base is 8, say for the example warpath is 7 channel cost, if the buffs are appliedafter then I'd have a mana regen of 2, whereas if it's before then I would have a mana regen of 9, big difference lol

Thanks for the help! I've got a newfound confidence in my build crafting abilities haha

[steep cradle]

Quick question what's the current best most versatile speciality for sentinel ?

[crisp ice]

Probably paladin

[tribal basin]

that is not a Quick question just because you put Quick in front of it , it will become a whole hour long discussion

[wise rune]

probably paladin but the other two masteries have a lot of good builds now too

[steep cradle]

The new two handed sword i saw in the video of 1.1 cycle , which speciality i need for that ?

[turbid dome]

VK is the bestest because echos I am biased

[barren spire]

I killed the tree boss in act 7 now I am in the mono. To exit to act 9 what dungeon I need to do?

[turbid dome]

Go back to the ice town and go south to deep harbor

[potent remnant]

^^

[bleak breach]

What if it's a melee channel ability? I'd assume it'd specifically state that if it works but may as well ask

[potent remnant]

dude xd

[bleak breach]

Save some luck for the rest of us lol

[wise rune]

for a channelled ability -x melee attack mana cost would only apply the initial cost to start channelling rather than the per second cost

[bleak breach]

😔 hopes and dreams crushed

[potent remnant]

im not even playing void knight ^^ but I I will play void smite next build xD

[crisp ice]

Is the 3 point investment for blind on shield bash worth it?

[turbid dome]

It’s an easy way to deal with crit if you don’t have it on gear/can spare the shield bash points

[wise rune]

here's a little idea i threw together for spell DoT warpath VK https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYkkM32Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (86)

General:

▸ Health: 1,433, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 157, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 44% / 44% / 99% / 80% / 82% / 55%
▸ EHP: 1,643 / 1,543 / 1,543 / 2,205 / 2,030 / 2,030 / 1,691

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 287
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (906)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 27%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Melee, Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Smite (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Lunge (22)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Paranoia
• Atrophy

[wise rune]

might have to change abyssal echoes around a bit to get mana efficiency if it has mana problems

[crisp ice]

its a little tight on points but I think im only losing damage, and to me +24% mult damage of nothing is still nothing. Maybe once I get monument things might change. or maybe im just missing something else

[heavy yarrow]

how is forge guard looking this cycle compared to stuff like mana stack sorc?

[crisp ice]

well shield bash without the monument kinda blows during the story so far. its super slow going. havn't made it to monoliths yet, almost there.

[devout trail]

someone is using the Paladin hammer smite?

[potent remnant]

🙂

[tribal basin]

Void Damage + Spell Crit , Void Smite ?

[vagrant bone]

damn that could be used in like a warpath smite build but instead of pasladin go vk

[pearl axle]

Hi, can someon confirm that attunement and str scale the damage my minions ignites do?

[gritty creek]

whats the 'echo quest' not working bug solution?

[heavy yarrow]

would a palarus warpath build work better on pal, Vk or FG?

[wise rune]

definitely paladin but you could make it work on VK too

[heavy yarrow]

on that note, anyone a build figured out already?
got the sword and thinking of rerolling into a smite warpath sent

[potent remnant]

yea smite vk will be nice 😄

only that cold resist could be smg else but not bad anyway

[vagrant bone]

still better than a full dead stat

[potent remnant]

yea

like this one ^^

[bleak breach]

What are some good methods of passive mana regen increase? My current build only has 14/s which with smite's bonus is still good enough but it'd be cool to increase that more

[bleak breach]

What tier is that? And what's the range

[potent remnant]

no idea

just made circle of fortune relic mission and droped few of them

[potent remnant]

smite build should make smite costs 0 mana or smg like that

[bleak breach]

Dang, just looked it up and that's only a t4, t7 can get to 37% - 48% sheesh

[turbid dome]

Are you directly casting smite pig?

[bleak breach]

Never, it's cast from the javelin banner

[potent remnant]

aaa tiers of affixes

[wise rune]

really can't go wrong with something like this https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oN55npXB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (10) / Paladin (82)

General:

▸ Health: 1,343, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 224, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 40 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 39% / 39% / 40% / 72% / 53% / 4%
▸ EHP: 1,886 / 1,442 / 1,442 / 1,600 / 1,904 / 1,608 / 1,147

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 269
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,109)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Smite (23)
• Lunge (20)
• Javelin (20)

Used unique items:

• Palarus's Sacred Light

[wise rune]

and if you wanna try a void knight version you could do something like this instead but its rather untested and will probably need some tweaking in addition to having much stricter gear requirements https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYkkM32Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (86)

General:

▸ Health: 1,433, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 157, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 44% / 44% / 99% / 80% / 82% / 55%
▸ EHP: 1,643 / 1,543 / 1,543 / 2,205 / 2,030 / 2,030 / 1,691

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 287
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (906)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 27%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Melee, Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Smite (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Lunge (22)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Paranoia
• Atrophy

[bleak breach]

Here's what I'm goin for right now, not by any means optimized but I'm having fun goin at it by myself without a guide
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owYYOEMQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (83)

General:

▸ Health: 2,142, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 221, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 119% / 105% / 96% / 78% / 79% / 88%
▸ EHP: 3,083 / 3,083 / 3,083 / 3,424 / 3,083 / 3,083 / 3,083

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 428
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,230)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Smite (21)
• Javelin (20)

Used unique items:

• Apathy's Maw

[vagrant bone]

i just dont understand why no VR?

[wise rune]

bc you would have to go without a traversal for it to fit but if you're okay with that you could drop lunge for VR

[bleak breach]

Why not use cleave as the traversal? Or does that break the build

[wise rune]

the sceptre disables movement on void cleave

[bleak breach]

Ah, I see

[polar spire]

wait the big bad boss has already been defeated and it didnt even take 24 hours? LMAO

[spring pollen]

Falconer is still broken OP that’s why 🙂

[peak flax]

Is there a certain corruption needed for harbinger boss drops? Been trying to get the aberroth's command from the harbinger of defilement, but everytime it just drops a boss drop from the fall of the outcasts boss. Only have done like 4 though so could just be unlucky

[vagrant bone]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A177PDZB this could be something also

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (76) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,816, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 756, Regen: 20/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 63 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 15 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 78% / 71% / 75% / 83% / 81% / 81%
▸ EHP: 6,879 / 6,879 / 6,583 / 11,418 / 6,879 / 6,879 / 6,879

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 563
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,182)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (25)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Smite (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Devotion
• Phantom Grip
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Swaddling of the Erased

[spring pollen]

Anyone have event horizon hammer that can confirm if required level was increased to 100? I saw it on LEtools that it changed

[devout trail]

how to open the forgotten knights faction panel?

[spring pollen]

I press Y for faction screen then hit back in the top right and it shows all the factions. Not sure if there is a more direct hotkey

[warm galleon]

has anyone played Warpath Smite with the new sword? How is the dmg at endgame?

[hollow spindle]

Lastepochtools says "it can drop" so my guess is, it's not a guaranteed drop.

[wise rune]

i'm using it rn and i havent made it to endgame yet but it feels fantastic so far and smite/flameburst warpath paladin has always had good damage and this is essentially the same build except you're getting like 4x as many smites without really losing anything for it because the sword is really easy to get LP on

[arctic bay]

@shadow quartz

Can someone give me the double shield forge guard build?

[vagrant bone]

my buddy is using it hes 5/10 harb bosses down with it

[warm galleon]

nice to hear that,are you both also dual wielding? I'm using a shield for extra tankiness but feel like lack little of dmg at campagin rn

[vagrant bone]

duel wield all the way

[cerulean sorrel]

rate my beautiful Forge Guard https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/MakerThe11/character/TheWall

[tribal basin]

Mhh , it didnt get embedded :/

[cerulean sorrel]

link didnt work?

well maybe through this method then https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7xew46o

I prefered the other tho :C

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 71

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (1) / Forge Guard (45) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,423, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 197, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 1 Dex / 7 Int / 35 Att / 40 Vit
▸ Resistances: 93% / 58% / 95% / 147% / 44% / 74% / 59%
▸ EHP: 2,358 / 1,997 / 2,358 / 2,634 / 1,786 / 2,336 / 2,019

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 285
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (976)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 29%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Void Cleave (20)
• Forge Strike (22)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Manifest Armor (22)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Maehlin's Hubris
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip

[turbid dome]

THE WALL, NOTHING ON ETERA CAN MAKE IT FALL

[tribal basin]

Hmm with Phantom Grip , you want a Weapon with Bleed implicit , and i dont think that Maehlins Hubris is particularly good either since it doesnt have extra strats that the FWs can benefit from

[cerulean sorrel]

The WALL, THE WALL, chaddo bg music

I still gotta test if I get double effect from the gloves with the rings, as in every 100% belled chance turns into 200% ignite chance

[tribal basin]

Im still thinking about what the actual 3 Best gauntlets would be

[pearl geyser]

nope

[rocky imp]

MY SHIELD BAS H FEEL WEEK IN EMPOWERED

[chrome iron]

how to fix mana issues on shield bash? just start on 70

[crimson crystal]

somewhat lost on forge guard because it seems like minion things want me to use melee 2h and shield things want me to use throwing, but then manifest armor synergizes with throwing despite being a minion
I kind of want to have smelter's wrath and forge strike and strong minions, but also throwing hammer and shield throw are very good so far...

[wise rune]

Gotta use it offhand with a Sceptre main hand to get the huge fire penetration from warpath tree that's the way to do it

[tribal basin]

Do you have over 3k Block effectiveness yet and 100 str ?

[turbid dome]

We need a two hander shield

[rocky imp]

no i dont

[warm galleon]

ah i see, that's huge thank u

[tribal basin]

Iron Arms , Indomitable force , Flurry of Blows and High Impact are Nodes you MUST take . thats a ton of Flat and 2 More Modifiers

[rocky imp]

i have 2725 block and 77 streength

[cosmic ivy]

killed cruelty and did not get world splitter :C

[turbid dome]

Keep trying KomPo

[tribal basin]

Phys Pen , Fire Pen , Armor shred as well ? How much flat you think you have additionally

[rocky imp]

where do i see that at

[cosmic ivy]

the thing did not reset my thing, would u like to join me

[turbid dome]

Sadly I am at work

[tribal basin]

Need to do the Math yourself for that

[rocky imp]

what you mean

[warm galleon]

Do u know how much aspd for dual wield to proc 3 smites per second?

i mean how much " increase apsd" in letools

[crisp ice]

You need the relic that gives -3 to mana costs, and cutting edge on shield bash to be max. The passive crushing blows helps with mana regen. With those shield bash is basically free.

[proven crystal]

How do you make mana management easier on a hammerdin?

[brazen crater]

Anyone theorycraft an axe throw sentinel with the new relic?

[cosmic ivy]

how are u supposed to dodge this 😭

it happens so fast and instakill

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, not surprised the new stuff is over tuned.

[umbral hedge]

i dont rly know what ive done but seems i swapped some gear and now my divine bolts doesnt launch anymore?!

[quiet hearth]

You can tell when it's coming to a degree, Im more worried about that hitbox honestly

[cosmic ivy]

yeah..

[bleak breach]

Wait that one's just blatantly wrong, rip

[cosmic ivy]

friends refusing to help me again

[chilly lynx]

has anyone tested 2x paralus sacred light?

[wise rune]

Not sure unfortunately

[barren spire]

So I comppleted the idols slot and the passives, now I`m in monos but i realized I have not yet affiliated with the merchant guild. Should I run Temporal Sanctum now so I will exit in chapter 9 or should i first level in monos more?

[cosmic ivy]

bruh

maybe i need to be level 85 to drop it

[warm galleon]

can we still use the Sigil of Hope numlock trick?

[bronze token]

is it intended, that the multistrike node for "cast smite" doesnt trigger if there is only a single enemy?

[cerulean sorrel]

I believe you need to take another passive too to be able to cast smite while there's only a single enemy

I think is the one that says you attack with multi strike as if having a sword stack even if you have none

[bronze token]

that node is a prerequ for the smite node

[spring pollen]

Been a while but I recall if you swing next to the enemy but don’t hit them it will smite them

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah I was gonna say to try that

I think is because your armaments don't target the enemy you are hitting

[hollow plover]

You need aurelius i believe

It has 100% chance to cast smite when hitting a boss/rare with multistrike. Otherwise it only procs if there are multiple enemies

[bronze token]

huh, kinda dumb that it doesnt really work without it but thanks

[cosmic ivy]

anyone want to join challenge this dude 160 corruption

[vernal scroll]

Can someone explain me why top players spin 2 win uses rive ? And more importantly ? when ?

[tall meadow]

Does the Smite proc relic exist? I've ran so many idol nodes/used all my prophecy favor and still haven't found one

[vernal scroll]

?

[quiet hearth]

Like, you can really stack dots with FS and detonating ground, but I cant help but feel end game just straight crit bonking people will be better

[dark field]

Hell ya

[white cosmos]

Dropped 3 of those before the end of the campaign. rng is rng

[heavy yarrow]

how does warpath smite pal deal with survivability without HH?

[waxen nymph]

HH was never working with Warpath

You only procc it on the first hit

[teal tinsel]

Do i need to have the 1h shield axe for the shield bash build?

[waxen nymph]

You have to build hp based defenses.

[waxen nymph]

No, my friend has been lvling without it and he is doing just fine

[teal tinsel]

ight cool just using maxroll guide? or is there another one

[waxen nymph]

Dmg will go up big time when you get it

I believe he is using Maxroll

[mystic storm]

I been using hammer throw until I get the axe shield and it's been great.

[summer shell]

Anyone know if two phantom grips applies your gloves twice to weapons?

[waxen nymph]

Yes it does

[teal tinsel]

ight well time to level all my abilities again

[grand hound]

Did you lose your ward generation? divine bolts ONLY spawn if you are below full health. So the build requires at least one "% ward" item to force overheals into ward generation to always heal on 100% of casts.

[full otter]

for a hammerdin, is phys dmg on gear better than strength on gear usually? dmg-wise

[teal tinsel]

Any advice on getting more mana/regen on the shieldbash build

[icy jay]

Vengeance?

[turbid dome]

Can you make use of the time and faith node on sentinel’s base tree?

[teal tinsel]

with shieldbash not rly

[cosmic ivy]

@turbid dome have you dropped the axe yet

[turbid dome]

Haha no, I’ve been at work + last night was raid night in dark and darker

[cosmic ivy]

i did it 4 times, twice with 160 corruption 😭

[turbid dome]

The ol desire sensor strikes again, once you get one, ten more will follow

[cosmic ivy]

i had 2 friends with me and we didnt get it

must be like really rare drop or something

[turbid dome]

Wait apathy’s maw or the new mana stacking axe

[mighty lark]

Does the passive "Time and Faith" health regain work for "Prayer" healing yourself?

[calm basin]

I'm doing a FG minion build for leveling. So far it's ripping through most content. However is there a reason my manifest armor hits like a wet noodle? I'm sure it just needs more points in stats and such but.. am I missing something? The whirlwind attack was hitting for 5 damage lol

[turbid dome]

Do you have the node that give him a copy of your weapon

[spring pollen]

Flat damage per x chest armor node can also add a lot of damage

[calm basin]

That's what he is at so far

[spring pollen]

Force of impact node (big arrow on it) and a high armor chest piece will help a bunch

[calm basin]

Sounds good. Again not a huge issue my forge weapons alone rip through everything. Just was curious

[orchid flint]

how's void knight erasing strike feeling?

[cosmic ivy]

pretty good clear and bossing, but the only problem is mana.
you really need that 100% crit chance

world splitter build is probably best if you drop it

[dusky flame]

Did they tell anything about the bleed node on forge guard getting fixed?

[outer abyss]

Guys, anyway I can seal or work with the remaining FP?
I f up and accidentally upgraded the last T4 without trying to seal it first

[vernal scroll]

Can someone explain me why apathy's maw with crit chance unlock the scaling ? THere is something i don't get

[quiet hearth]

nope, once it's maxed its done for

[outer abyss]

Okay 😭 ty

[flint inlet]

were sigils of hope changed to not proc on kill if the skill is not on the bar?

[summer shell]

15% crit from wep + 5 from you + 9 from tree means you need 300% increased crit instead of 700% which isn't achievable. You're unlocking a new scaling vector in critical strike damage that just can't really be used if you only have base crit

[vernal scroll]

wep ? + You're meaning, that there is capstones in your crit chance to proc different multiplicator of crit increase ?

[summer shell]

Anything that is +crit% is a multiplier on increased crit chance

5% base + 15% wep with 100% increase is 40% without weapon affix it's 10

[vernal scroll]

What's "wep" ? Without the affix on weapon i'm at ~40% CC but with a +17% Dmg will skyrocket more than just 0.17* Crit dmg multi ?

[summer shell]

Way more

Increase that by your increased crit chance

[vernal scroll]

Got it

Where can i find the incresed multiplicativ and the additiv ones ?

[summer shell]

• vs increased

[vernal scroll]

Oh lord, didn't see there is differences in affixes between + X% and increased by X%

And i suppose you can only get +X on weapons and not on armors ?

With this "simple" +X you can go to 3X% crit chance with the right "increased" affixes which mean you scale crit way harder than I expected

[digital ridge]

Hey guys where can I go to get some good void knight builds? I’m still kind of rusty in LE

[summer shell]

Yep, you can easily cap crit with the weapon mod and peak of the mountain on most builds

[tribal basin]

Im so dissapointed in Ring of Shields offensive capabilities , besides shrapnell it also doesnt hit so no ailment aplliances

[grizzled gate]

Has anyone made Bastion of Honor work recently?

[inner gazelle]

is it just me or does void knight kinda feel really bad

[sterile latch]

Running hardcore as sentinel. Just doing warpath with a 2h axe meant for harvest minion acolyte lol. Any tips during the maintenance downtime?

[tribal basin]

VK is fine , what do you mean :/

[pearl geyser]

well its mostly a defensive ability lol

[sudden shore]

anyone playing divine bolts?

[dusky flame]

Fixed a bug where Forge Guard’s Weapon Master was not granting +75% Bleed Chance as a Threshold Bonus while wielding an axe
POG

[tribal basin]

And Shield rush is a Traversal skill and Shield Bash a stunning ability soo , there are applications for stuff but not RoS

[inner gazelle]

idk maybe its just me, he just feels like he doesnt do that much dmg nor does he have the sustain to survive, the mana is a struggle

[pulsar walrus]

im levelling a pally to spec into this when the drops come

[torpid mica]

Anyone got HammerNova build for HC? I see that the best was 100lvl but cant find build anywhere

[sudden shore]

what r u playing with as of right now?

[tribal basin]

its also 24 hours after the first Aberroth kill so thats also coming now to legacy offline

[dusky flame]

you have one on maxroll if I recall correctly

[torpid mica]

Yeah, but searching for HC

[tribal basin]

Then Get Mana , VK starts to feel good at about 400 or 500+

[wild token]

Anyone tried paladin with new smite sword? is it playable in empowered?

[pulsar walrus]

I haven't even made it to monos in HC for it yet.. but javelin and vengence are going strong. Just gearing for fire damage and penetration atm.

[inner gazelle]

damn im at 300 lmao, im trying to make a erasing strike build, mana shreds a lot

[vale ravine]

or you know, just get 1k

[sudden shore]

everyone saying its not worth to play divine bolts anymore so struggling to think what to go for lmao

[tribal basin]

Palarus sword vastly depends on how much Str and Attunement you have stacked

[pulsar walrus]

Did the servers go down? i saw the in game message but nothing here officially on the news channel

[tribal basin]

yes , ES is Mana hungry 300 wont cut it

[pulsar walrus]

it's the clostest thing to javazon from D2... my favorite build.. regardless of what others say.. it's the play for me. at least to start the cycle with.

[inner gazelle]

i guess gotta go another build till i get the gear for ES, any suggestions?

[vale ravine]

tbf the "2 cleave charges + 2 ES charges" CD based ES variant works on lower mana as well, but if you want the real bonk experience then you gotta invest into mana

[tribal basin]

yes what Wacsa suggested

[turbid dome]

Wasca speaks the truth

[inner gazelle]

hmm ill give it a go

[grand hound]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Roady/character/RoadyHAMMERTIME That's the build/gear Roady used for world first Level 100 on Hardcore

[sudden shore]

do u have a build guide or a planner for 1.1 patch? and do u know what are the min requirements to start it? experimental gloves?

[inner gazelle]

got any guides for the early build of that per chance?

[vale ravine]

not mine but kinda like this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oR6mrz5o

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,323, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 237, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 41 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 52% / 55% / 113% / 95% / 64% / 64%
▸ EHP: 7,109 / 6,968 / 5,949 / 12,490 / 8,185 / 7,621 / 8,839

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 531
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (6,739)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 38%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Anomaly (22)
• Erasing Strike (26)
• Void Cleave (22)
• Abyssal Echoes (22)
• Volatile Reversal (22)

Used unique items:

• Decayed Skull
• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Shattered Chains
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• Omnis
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

This build has a guide:

Erasing Strike Crit King Void Knight Build Guide by sponge96

[kind crown]

How do you find/unlock the harbringer faction?

[cerulean sorrel]

does Double Phantom Grip rings work?

[vale ravine]

it's basically "Twin Cataclysms" vs "Time Loop + Shattered Continuity"

[turbid dome]

why does everyone love titan heart when apostates is right there to get you +10 hp per vitality

[pulsar walrus]

I do not have one. I'm just winging it..

[ebon patrol]

I hope so, been running them since I started my FG

[vale ravine]

so what's your end game phys one shot EHP with that setup

[ebon patrol]

if not then minions are super powerful on their own considering I've been shredding rifts since level 30

[turbid dome]

I have it with all rares + uniques, no legendaries. (granted like best in slot rares) let me grab my build link

[ebon patrol]

and mygear is bad and my setup is nowhere near optimal

[ornate sentinel]

What would you guys say is the easiest leveling process for a VK?

[turbid dome]

@vale ravine In short, vitality 👍

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0PMN0vQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 7,869 / 8,302 / 7,188 / 14,787 / 8,302 / 8,302 / 8,302

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[vale ravine]

at least i personally found that the opportunity cost is too high
you def want some vitality but STR also:

• scales ES
• gives armor
• armor becomes DoT mitigation as well
  so half Vit - half STR + Titan heart kidna resulted in both optimal damage and survive, but that's just my two cents

[light barn]

I see Warpath controller movement is still bugged

[quiet hearth]

I knew something felt off early game with my bleeds

[turbid dome]

are those with legendaries + exalted? @vale ravine

[velvet swallow]

Hey! Can someone send me a link to an updated version for Healing Hands + Rive Paladins? I've looked on Google, Youtube, Maxroll, Icy Veins and lastepochtools but have found none that is up to date. Which guide still holds up to date, or is there an up to date version of the build somewhere else and if "yes", please link it! 🙂

[vale ravine]

oh ye this is my giga end build ofc, not the intermediary state 🙂

[turbid dome]

yeah titan heart is probably more consistant one shot wise, but I love rebuking to full hp while tanking a bosses hits

[vale ravine]

ye leech + anomaly takes care of that for me 😄

it all depends on the skills right, but im a huge armor + DR fan when it comes to pushing cause ultimetly it is DoTs what's gonna kill ya

eternal gauntlets with experimental DoT mitigation + code of erased sentinel + oracle amulet if you can afford it are in all of my sentinel builds lol

[ebon patrol]

so does phantom grip stack or not? i keep seeing conflicting info

[kind crown]

it should yes

[ebon patrol]

I keep seeing like planners etc using only 1 and couldn't really understand why on a minion setup

kinda hard to get a ring that's better in slot than it is if you have good gloves

[grizzled gate]

Are there any decent builds with Bastion of Honor these days?

[kind crown]

guys the patch ahs been out 24 hours xD

[vernal scroll]

Is melee crit chance additiv to normalcrit chances or mult ?

[kind crown]

additive

[vernal scroll]

thanks

[kind crown]

unless it says "increased melee crit chance", then it would be multiplicative

[vernal scroll]

Yh but in my character sheet if i have 5% cc and 10 melee if i hit a melee i'll have 15% on it ?

[kind crown]

no, its 10% melee

[vernal scroll]

What about the "normal" crit chance ?

[tribal basin]

base crit chance is 5% , added xyz crit chance or added crit chance with xyz attacks is additvie to the base , rest is increased crit chance

[kind crown]

it applies to any damage that i snot skill based i would imagine

[ornate sentinel]

someone have a forged weapon leveling build for VK?

[vernal scroll]

Or a skill can be 1 of 4 things : Melee / Spell / bow / nothing and then it has the crit chance of it ?

[tribal basin]

No not really , VK has simply not the things that would make Forged weapons actually do damage

[vernal scroll]

So if I use a Melee ability like warpathwhile i have +5crit chance, + 10melee, +20 spell, will i have 5, 10, 15 or 35cc ?

[kind crown]

basically by default all your skill based crit have your "default crit" value. Its for reference purpose

since Warpath has Melee tag by default, it would be melee crit so 10%

[ornate sentinel]

what about void cleave?

[south fable]

Does the shield rush happen to everyone?

[keen sundial]

So how is forge weapons playing out in empowered monos? Wondering how its performing late game now

[vernal scroll]

Duck strantard crit chance for warpath only melee apllies ?

[ionic spade]

void cleave doesnt require vk

[kind crown]

Since its a melee skill, melee crit value aplies

[inland briar]

Question: I would like to build a Sentinel with a focus on Warpath. Through the Vortex relic and a node on the passive skill tree I can throw Axes on melee hit. The Void Knight mastery says that throwing attacks have a chane to be repeated by echoes. Does this count also for the thrown axes?

[vernal scroll]

But javelin will have the base crit chance only
Those stats are exclusives and not additive between them then ?

[ionic spade]

javelin is throwing damage not melee

[kind crown]

yes, and yes. Jav has special crit nodes in its tree to compensate

[tribal basin]

Thats a Base Sentinel thing , still not enough , Forge strike has the biggest Buffs to them and 2nd part of FG has extra phat Flat damage

[waxen nymph]

Its better, your Warpath echoes shoot axes

[vernal scroll]

What kind of ability is not Throw, bow, melee or a spell ?

[ornate sentinel]

so what do people level VG with then

[inland briar]

Through the Echo node on Warpath?

[kind crown]

basic crit applies to throw for instance, as it it neither spell, melee or bow

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[tribal basin]

the heck is VG ?

[waxen nymph]

Void Guard

[inland briar]

Spin to win it is.

[ornate sentinel]

VK

[ionic spade]

if VK isn't your first character get a firestarter and just whirlwind until its damage drops off a cliff

[ornate sentinel]

void guard does sound cool tho. forbidden flesh/flame hybrids when

[tribal basin]

Why not Forgadin then 🤦‍♂️

[ionic spade]

erasing strike sould be an ok leveling experience once you get there

[ornate sentinel]

plz no

[tribal basin]

Void Hammerthrow stuff also works

[vernal scroll]

Thanks for your patience and explaination man
To be sure i got this, if i have an lp +X% crit chance, none of my warpath dmg will then scale ? Buit if i get a +X% MELEE crit, dmg goes boum boum

[sly meteor]

this might be a theory on smite auto bomber tho im sure there is room to improve on just threw it together... https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWzPbnZA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (66) / Forge Guard (10) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,593, Regen: 36/s
▸ Mana: 244, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 50 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 8 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 78% / 78% / 66% / 52% / 92% / 66%
▸ EHP: 6,466 / 6,466 / 6,466 / 10,255 / 5,236 / 6,466 / 5,905

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 634
▸ Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,725)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 27%

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Sigils Of Hope (25)
• Volatile Reversal (21)
• Void Cleave (21)
• Smite (21)
• Warpath (24)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Shattered Chains
• Palarus's Sacred Light
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Paranoia

[stark meteor]

When I use Warpath, it constantly ticks down my mana. Which is fine, since it's a chenneled spell. But when I reach around 29 Mana (out of 72) it suddenly jumps to -9. This is a consitent behaviour. Is there a reason for this I missed?

[inland briar]

pls yes

[kind crown]

You're welcome, it is a tad confusing. May I suggest checking out the Ingame guide by pressing G, most mechanics are pretty well explained. And no, +X crit raise the crit chance of ALL instance, including melee.

[ionic spade]

are you using the node that ramps up mana cost every second

[kind crown]

X Crit is for all crits, then you add +X mele crit. Thevalue displayed on youre character sheet under "melee crit" is the sum of both

[vernal scroll]

Damn it.. SO if i have already 10 crit, 10 melee crit and i get a +10 crit% on an affixes, my stats will be 20-20 ?

[stark meteor]

No. But I DO use Abyssal Tempest... Thanks for the pointer xD

[kind crown]

That is why no instance crit can be lower than your base crit value

[vernal scroll]

Oh it's already summed Q.Q

[kind crown]

no it will be 20 -10 so 30

[ionic spade]

ah you getting memed by the cost of abyssal echoes

[vernal scroll]

Finally fcking got it all

[kind crown]

Cheers !

[obtuse perch]

So I've been playing very slowly (as I like to do on my first character in a cycle).

My forge guard has been tearing things up so far in the first timeline.

[stark meteor]

Yep. Somehow I totally missed this

[fair anchor]

I would say yes. Running any other skill will net you more damage. Once you get it though, you can make the full swap and youll be g2g

[vernal scroll]

Is there a way to see you echo chance for a VK somewhere ?

[obtuse perch]

"Need" is a strong word, but it gives you a lot of power that you cannot get otherwise.

[sly meteor]

its 10% base plus 10-30% for the three nodes (ten each) afaik

[vernal scroll]

Ty

[sly meteor]

oh and rive has a node that doubles echo chance on that skill.

[vernal scroll]

Warpathh too, it's probly the case on all the skills thaat can Echo

[twilit valley]

Hello Al
, is the new sigil of hope ring bugged ? Doesn’t seem to consume mana

[sly meteor]

well warpath just echos rive double the chance and echos with the node (i might switch over to rive if warpath feels too clunky in my build)

[twilit valley]

Can anyone tell me if the new sigils of hope is consuming mana for them .. mine seems bugged

[ionic spade]

it definitely consumes mana

[digital magnet]

warpath just seems to never get any love, when its in a good spot and being competitive something gets nerfed.

[twilit valley]

Hmm no idea why mines not , will remove and try again

[ionic spade]

are your sure your mana regen isnt outpacing it, i notice it because i have 0 mana regen while warpathing

[twilit valley]

Even when mines 90-100% is doesn’t consume

[ionic spade]

are you at 3 sigils?

[twilit valley]

Ok it’s working now , I removed and put back on and works thanks

[inland briar]

what do i have to press to make loot visible again?

[waxen nymph]

Alt Z I believe

[inland briar]

preem, thank you!

[tawdry oasis]

For anyone who cares about Palarus, Smite, and Healing hands : If you grab Hand of Aurelus (HH on smite), and Seraph Blade (HH is melee), and wear a Palarus and then hard cast smite while in melee range, you will smite (with +2 sometimes), then HH will melee, which may proc Palarus Smite.

If you grab the 'smite casts lightning bolt' talent.. its a lot of bolts happening.

[sterile latch]

how do u make forged weapons vs singular targets like bosses?

[waxen nymph]

You use either Warpath or Multistrike

[kind crown]

or Rive

[cursive compass]

Dual wielding with eye of reen could make that good

[sterile latch]

thx

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/KoPZVvgQ

Should I look for differente bases for this build?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Paladin (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,878, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 197, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 10 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 96% / 89% / 64% / 74% / 72% / 37%
▸ EHP: 9,432 / 9,810 / 9,810 / 14,440 / 9,713 / 9,478 / 7,083

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 848
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,951)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Physical, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Smite (22)
• Javelin (20)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Aurelis
• Blood of the Exile
• Bleeding Heart
• Ucenui's Sphere

This build has a guide:

Holy Winds Electrify Smite Hh Paladin Full Build Guide Showcase by Dr3adful

[obtuse perch]

Also DoT shields are kinda strongish.

[crisp ice]

Just got my monument, it doubled my tooltip dps, double shields here i come

[cursive compass]

is the numlock trick working for you guys? I dont seem to be casting anomaly :/

[scenic gyro]

working for me

[alpine canopy]

I think you need to take immediacy for it to work right, maybe?

[scenic gyro]

what do we think about the body armor from aberoth? kinda tempted to use it instead of wings
leech is my main defense and dmg reduction on top

[hollow spindle]

wings? what item are you describing (for clarity)

[scenic gyro]

wings of argentus

[hollow spindle]

what's your build?

[scenic gyro]

warpath smiter
wings doesnt do anything for me except +2 and dmg reduction
only reason to consider it at all is the haste but id rather have all useful stats on my stuff

[hollow spindle]

These are the 3 "best" chests IMO to use for sentinels (YMMV) but they each give DR in different ways so whatever works out best for your build. (names purposefully left off so you can compare and contrast the different values)

[scenic gyro]

im not using 2h(titans heart) and the other 2 are the ones i mentioned?
let me rephrase then if i t wasnt clear
how effective of a defnesive layer is overleech

[tacit zealot]

does the wave scale with melee still?

[ancient bridge]

how is ES voidknight cooking?

[hollow spindle]

@scenic gyro yes the other 2 are the ones you mentioned. overleech is good if you build up your endurance threshold (so that way when you fall below, you can survive long enough to leech back up)

I'm debating which one to use...

[tacit zealot]

how much does the crit strike one give you in your stats?

[cursive compass]

dude the new body armor is so bad, it only gives 20% DR max per each resistance overcapped, is not combined nor general DR

[scenic gyro]

sry since when is 20 dr bad

[hollow spindle]

It goes from 11-> 51%

[cursive compass]

The text says if you want 20dr%, all your resistances must be overcapped, not the combination of some, if you overcapped fire res, you only get 20dr% for fire res

[scenic gyro]

thats not an issue, getting res is very easy

[cursive compass]

as paladin yes, maybe its worth it for them, but compared to titan heart, which is just 15DR% without no condition

[cold wind]

realisticly how bad would freeze warpath pala would be ? with some work

[tacit zealot]

i mean if block effectiveness isnt something you need then the crit chance would be better if you're going for a crit build

[scenic gyro]

wielding a 2h counts as a condition

[hollow spindle]

Not worried about the block effectiveness, just trying to parse out how much better the extra crit chance is versus extra armor shred chance

[cursive compass]

get all your resistances overcapped or just wield a 2h then

[white sonnet]

What level were you when you got it, how was the build before monument

[tacit zealot]

go to training dummy or use enemies to test. look at consistent damage numbers rather than the min-max range since its hard to tell without knowing more about your char would be quicker for you to see but i think the crit as its a multiplier

[crisp ice]

I got it around level 63ish. Played shield bash through the story, had its ups and downs but it was doable. Was able to clear the first monolith was fine. Stuff just took a while to kill as long as your kinda paying attention its pretty hard to die.

[sterile latch]

If you have strength on your weapon as forge guard do your forged weapons inherit the str and somehow benefit from it? It was my impression str already benefits minions

[summer shell]

basic stats do nothing

[sterile latch]

thx

[summer shell]

pretty sure forged weapons also dont scale from strength still

[rotund vector]

It's scales the hp but no dmg...so I rerolled to warpath smite with the new sword.

[sterile latch]

last epoch tools says they do https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/weapon
Could test at arena when i get there

[summer shell]

does it say str gives hp too? because ingame tooltip on skill says attunement grants hp and damage but str is only damage presumably to the attack only

[sterile latch]

no only hp, it says attunement gives both tho

[summer shell]

very confusing lol

probably works then tbh

[bleak breach]

does warpath have a chance at spawning an echo while channeling or only on the initial activation? also do echo hits count as hits for me

[turbid dome]

you need this node in warpath to get it to echo

[bleak breach]

ohh, i need to open my eyes to read apparently haha. I was wondering why it felt inconsistent

[turbid dome]

yup gotta keep moving

[cursive compass]

only rogues get parry right?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRmGZwDiA, new axe seems pog

[bleak breach]

if i move in a circle does that count or does it mean like specifically 4 meters in a straight line from starting point?

[turbid dome]

you can put a parry affix on a lot of weapons

[cursive compass]

the axe gives gives frenzy for parrying, and flat melee damage, adaptative, hmm

[turbid dome]

ye

[mighty lark]

hey i know this was 2hrs old, do you happen to know what skills I should specialize into for this? Obviously smite and HH, but what else? Holy aura? SoH?

[turbid dome]

is lagon's arena theme new

[twilit valley]

Yeah you can’t cast from far away now also .. tentacles block path ..

[turbid dome]

I meant like the music

[twilit valley]

Oh no idea . Music volume off for me

[turbid dome]

I dont remember it being such a banger

[twilit valley]

Might have to listen later .. cafe time .. this season is soo much harder I like it

[turbid dome]

aparently I own the sound track

[twilit valley]

What you mean ? You made it

[turbid dome]

no the ultimate edition came with a soundtrack download

[tawdry oasis]

usually its volatile reversal, javelin, sigils

[twilit valley]

Oh I have that also .. didn’t notice

[mighty lark]

is this for paladin or VK?

[twilit valley]

You can use VR even if your a paladin - 5 points

[turbid dome]

^

[mighty lark]

im aware of that part, but some of the HH builds i've seen prefer VK, was curious if the original post was better on VK

[tawdry oasis]

yea just depends what you want to do. i just noticed the tech on paladin, do not have a build around it- figured a pala electrify might be reasonable

[mighty lark]

i pref paladin actually so that works well, i like holy aura passive defense

[twilit valley]

I’m a paladin Smite HH . Soh holy aura jav HH

What’s everyone’s max ward for far and lvl your all on . I’m under geared at lvl 89 getting around 3600 ward with 700 healing affectiveness

Curious how high everyone’s ward is so far

[turbid dome]

0 ward currently

[vernal scroll]

Is there an affix making echos last longer / proc more often ?

[stuck horizon]

did anyone cook up a build with this yet? Seems fun

[turbid dome]

no affix, you can get to 40% with the passive tree, rive doubles the echo chance so you can get to 80% echo chance with it

[modern junco]

not sure if asking for trades is allowed, but does someone happen to have a vortex pennant they can hand over? i can pay you like 100k, i just can't find one. can be any roll i don't mind

[winter copper]

people played this build even in 0.8 new weapon just buffed its damage a bit compared to previosu versions and u can use shiled but nothing spectacular

[cursive compass]

look in the game, many sell for cheap

[modern junco]

i'm CoF, was hoping someone had a non-faction drop available

[cursive compass]

Man I am trying so hard to fit sword catcher vs last laugh

[quiet hearth]

-17 forge potental with a glyph of hope on the first roll, my FG is curse, this was my literal first craft too xD

the shrapnel node in Forge strike, is that less duration global?

[rare grove]

is Worldsplitter better than Apathy's Maw for Erasing Strike giga bonk?

[quiet hearth]

negative

[turbid dome]

I think worldsplitters better for pure bonk with no cooldown

[quiet hearth]

Eh, I dunno, you need a lot of mana investment to break even, I think in theory it might be better at the high end, but apathy is just so good with no work other than slapping it on

[waxen nymph]

Thats a Spell

[tacit zealot]

figured so, thanks

[quiet hearth]

wut, I never knew wave was a spell

[turbid dome]

yeah, pure bonk wants enough mana back from the consume void essence for mana passive to have enough mana to keep bonking forever, which is already a lot so yay splitter probably maybe

[quiet hearth]

I think with investment sure, but I haven't bonked in so long I'd have to play it out to see. That being said, i am bonking with forge strike and uh..yeah

[turbid dome]

or has someone tested/done the math

[hollow spindle]

So your answer is not "negative" then, it's Apathy for early endgame, and world splitter for possibly late endgame. For some casual gamerdad apathy is probably a great choice, but splitter looks to be better for a more fleshed out build

[quiet hearth]

It still is negative with the information I have right now, I still think apathy pulls ahead overall, with WS possibly catching up.

[turbid dome]

apathy is def better for cooldown ES and void cleave with rive to fill the gap (foe cleaver loves apathy)

I don't have a worldsplitter + tons of mana to try our the one buton bonk build so I can only predict

[quiet hearth]

I plan on trying a one button bonk build with FS when I get the items, this thing has been crazy so far. And after realizing detonating ground is a melee attack and speccing into it, bosses just disappear

[turbid dome]

its nice seeing forge guard having a build

purple bonk better (:<

[quiet hearth]

That's my guess, but this crit FS build is hitting numbers I am not used to seeing this early

[turbid dome]

oh I was saying that cause I like the color purple

FG is def tankier

[quiet hearth]

Very fair, I briefly specced into the no cd just to see and uh, it's like watching a flare go off between the anvil and the explosion

also, if you have the points or space in your build, spec into blind, it's so freaking good

[turbid dome]

ye got blind as a random suffix on my axe

[quiet hearth]

yeah my spear has it, not needing to build crit avoid save a ton of points. Also, I need to try out that spend your stalwart stacks for AOE

[vale ravine]

Dunno about apathy but managed to make splitter bonk 2m+ in theory, per hit (vs lvl 100)
Dont think it is higher damage in itself but if it enables more points in the echo talent it might be higher dps
And def higher qol

[turbid dome]

thats fair

time to fight ol mr silly corpse dragon at lvl 71

[quiet hearth]

so, for those using a controller, you cannot hit the soul jars with FS because the game doesnt think you can reach them, made that fight uh..interesting

[turbid dome]

🫂

[quiet hearth]

scrambling to get to my mouse before I died

my only real gripe is how you cant really focus on just phys or fire on FS, because they seem to scale both at once. I'd like to be able to narrow it down

[turbid dome]

engi 1 : corpse dragon 0 (I almost died to the big boom each time)

[quiet hearth]

oh no...I just got my second palarus sword...I can hear werebear calling me

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

oh just you wait until I get the crab ring, I am gonna turn him into the best boy

[pearl hare]

i must ask, i'm planning to build for a max block forge guard - should i build into shield throw as a main? would building that way conflict with trying to summon an army of Dudes?

[quiet hearth]

I mean if you're stacking the shield, shield bash and throw are obvious, I dunno about adding forged weapons

[turbid dome]

you just want as much damage (probably fire?) as possible on your weapon + double the new FG rings for forged weapons,

[quiet hearth]

hey ruby fang set...wait...FG scales pen for bleed and ignite...is it time to make a poison FG?

[pearl hare]

🤔

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Good luck ^^

[honest flume]

DoT Rive FG is performing better than I expected

[quiet hearth]

FG can stack a ton of dots because of that 2h node

[turbid dome]

I love this node

[quiet hearth]

meanwhile weapon specialist over here drooling on itself

[turbid dome]

VK loves that node, FG loves it too

[quiet hearth]

uh....who out there is building dex on a sword build?

[turbid dome]

lunge and javalin are the only dex scaling skills

[primal heron]

Just made a new sentinel to eventually play with shield bash and that sword is great for leveling. Gonna try to dual wield it using Rive + HH + Smite until I get the unique

[quiet hearth]

Forget leveling, Im gonna make a double str to spells werebear, Im just trying to play FG to the end of empowered first xD

[waxen nymph]

Hear me out
Rive + HH DW Palarus Sword + Mace and Attunement Stacking

Have to be good right ?

[pearl hare]

im just really wanting to do multistrike for this man... though i guess it is a shame that im having to choose between multistrike goon summoning or maximum block

[primal heron]

Mace?

[quiet hearth]

I have to use MS for automated forge strike sadly

[pearl hare]

i feel like ms as primary filler could be really fun

[quiet hearth]

I still gotta run the numbers on a 2h phys mace warpath

[pearl hare]

does the automated fs cast have any internal cooldown? or can it just keep goin

[quiet hearth]

I dont have enough AS yet, but it seems like it's its own cd because fs on my bar doesnt go on CD.

Actually...I could make a minion build if I got one of those titan bone hammers

wait no, I need cleaver for that fml

how much str can we reasonably get though?

[turbid dome]

cooking thought: dex stacking sword rive, that uses lunge to do big damage or something

[quiet hearth]

I think Str stacking still wins out just because of lethal strikes for that pen

I should try making potion man FG again with all these changes

[turbid dome]

thought is to go evasion/armor for defense so you got even more defensive layers

[quiet hearth]

take the potion node in FG, use the belt that gives you falsewater fury for that +100 to melee, and then just absolutely dump on a boss

[pearl hare]

man, im still genuinely stuck trying to design something for fg though, cause im so torn between going for the boys and going for blockmaster
feels like i can't delve "hard enough" into one

[quiet hearth]

It's easy enough to switch honestly, and block master takes time where the sword boys are kinda there from the get go

[pearl hare]

i mean yeah true

[hollow spindle]

Engi, you doing empowered monos yet or still regular?

[pearl hare]

not to mention the fact that im already playing a primalist who has the power of ultra zoomies and it will be a difficult readjustment, plus i gotta get a whole new blender up and running

[cursive compass]

With a solarum hammer

[quiet hearth]

so, with t6 str min at every slot, this is how much str I came up with

so 30% fire and phys pen at that point, so 50% pen with FS in that scenario

[dark field]

Anyone cook up a cool build with two of these bad boys? Maybe a Void Knight or something?

[quiet hearth]

dw judgement with the free smite casting node

[turbid dome]

void knight wants to vitality stack more than strength or attunment, wouldn't paladin be better for that?

[quiet hearth]

Do forged weapons inherit the melee damage that would give?

[turbid dome]

I dont think forged weapons have stats

[lament umbra]

forge guard builds feel so slow

[quiet hearth]

they do actually

[turbid dome]

wouldn't you need attunment on gloves to give it to them?

[quiet hearth]

No, they scale BETTER with attunement actually

[turbid dome]

ah, forgot thats how minions work

[dark field]

Thats a little cook. I like it

[quiet hearth]

not all of them, but if they inherit the dmg bonus, that would be insane

[cursive compass]

and EHG said VIt rive will be a thing in the next patch

[quiet hearth]

that would be wild xD

[turbid dome]

it already is a thing (:<

gib void conversion for rive plz

[quiet hearth]

how is vit rive a thing?

[turbid dome]

each vit adds 1 void dmg to rive with an axe -> vk wants vit even more now -> vk already loves apathy's maw -> apathy's maw can end up with two t7 melee void dmg rolls that get doubled by foe cleaver

[honest flume]

gib any conversion for rive already

[hollow spindle]

sigh been using Dreamthorn for 65 levels now...can't wait for an actual upgrade

[vale ravine]

i dunno i kinda hate that it's not a full conversion

[turbid dome]

double echo chance tho

[vale ravine]

yeee, i was doing HH Rive last season and i mean it was gooooooood.... just shame it has a split damage profile when the skill itself is iconic

[turbid dome]

yeah, make it like a weirdly shaped idol or something to convert it (:

[vale ravine]

i would be all in on that lol. no VK is as tanky as a red ring + merophage + titan Rive VK 😄

[cursive compass]

how do you get good stats on merophage tho

[turbid dome]

counter point 150+ vitality with 10 hp per vit MOAR HP

[vale ravine]

por que no los dos? 😄

[quiet hearth]

sadly my dreams of forged wpns getting the bonus damage has been shattered

[vale ravine]

Rive at least actually scales with vit.... unlike the SIGNATURE skill of VK lol

[dark field]

You don't have to scale vit for void smite though

[glad pike]

Finally I got to monoliths and as for now I'm very comfortable (lvl 63). What kind of gear should I be looking for my VK to chase the harbingers/pinnacle bosses? My only damage abilities are VC and ES. I am on the merchant's guild by the way.

[quiet hearth]

It's more going vit stack makes you obscenely tanky because it also scales hp

[turbid dome]

I might have thought the mastery passive was more void damage instead that its actually melee void damage

[vale ravine]

ikr?

[turbid dome]

thanks circle of fortune

[quiet hearth]

look at all those useless idols xD

[hollow spindle]

don't you mean "look at that 1 semi useful idol in that pile of idols" ?

[vale ravine]

the new mastery passive is half-cooked at best, definitely feels like a placeholder

[turbid dome]

first one I looked at, yay

[quiet hearth]

it is a sign from the metal one

[hollow spindle]

which passive are you referring to?

[turbid dome]

100 ish vit gets you like 33% more melee void damage (half of void knight mastery passive)

[quiet hearth]

nooo, the gloves I need are stupid favor cost for some reason

[turbid dome]

? which gloves

[vale ravine]

like smite scales with Vit but you dont get anything from your class passive, ES does not directly scale with vit only passively
just no synergy

[quiet hearth]

30% more melee void damage is huge though

[turbid dome]

ES gets spell damage from vitality (2 dmg per point)

[vale ravine]

it is but it isnt free

your mastery passive shouldn't have an opportunity cost, change my mind

[quiet hearth]

and here I was worried I wasnt keeping up with you

[turbid dome]

gaze upon my silly rive with my crummy pre empowered monos gear

[hollow spindle]

oh right that passive, completely forgot it existed. I mean it makes sense though if you look at paladin and forge knight. Paladin had a passive bonus of increased healing per pt of attunement, and forge knight has the passive physical/fire resistance . To be honest, I think void knight has the best truly passive out of the 3 masteries (excluding echoes of course)

[quiet hearth]

I just made it to monos, im slow AF, but yeah rive is silly

ok, about to do a full respec into this stupid poison/ignite idea, wish me luck

[turbid dome]

does the tool tip even try to use the echo damage bonus, or should I just manually add that with my brain. Actually testing time

[quiet hearth]

It doesnt just the base, it doesnt factor in my detonating ground either

[honest flume]

glhf

[turbid dome]

14,645 ->14,645 ok yeah tooltip doesn't care for echo chance at all, so whatever math is 80% chance for double damage on my rive

[vale ravine]

ye that's why i made my own DPS calc lol

[quiet hearth]

I have zero idea what skill I should use for this nonsense

[honest flume]

I was pretty sure that Rive's tooltip would factor in echos before

[quiet hearth]

Smelters wrath maybe?

[honest flume]

I was hitting >100k on my pre-1.0 VK's Rive tooltip

[turbid dome]

smelters wrath is a nah for dot stacking, you want fast attacks

[vale ravine]

DoT stacking sounds like Rive fo sho

[quiet hearth]

you forget, Im doing memes

[quiet hearth]

that is terrifying wth

[turbid dome]

owobyss strikes again, official sticker of this server btw

[hollow spindle]

https://tenor.com/b2nis.gif

[quiet hearth]

FG is so weird, with dot passives because all your best dot passives are also crit passives for the most part

So it's warpath, rive, and smite, though I guess I could stay multistrike and proc forge strike

[vale ravine]

rive, trigger HH, even more hits

[turbid dome]

ES void rift chaining is very funny, I love bonking in one spot and seeing enemies die 2 screens away cause theres so many in the way

[quiet hearth]

no smite, must be melee hits, and yes, I wish FG had something like that. Maybe change the detonating strike node to be a chain of explosions that follow you

if only VC didnt HAVE to bea 2h wpn

[hollow spindle]

it doesn't if you get that new weapon drop 😛

[vale ravine]

well, you can scepter it now

[quiet hearth]

not with what I am doing, which is not something I can recommend xD

[honest flume]

my issue is that the scepter removes the movement tag

[dark field]

I wonder if making Warpath Void but keeping smite fire for fire abyssal echos would be decent.

[hollow spindle]

Why is that an issue volfaren? The point of the sceptor is to make it instant cast so it can be cast while doing other things (like rive)

[honest flume]

Unless I'm misunderstanding how the scepter works, VC is my most preferred traversal skill on sentinel. Removing the weapon requirement is great but defeats my purpose if it's no longer a movement skill

[quiet hearth]

Im doing it, Im gonna use smelters wrath

[vale ravine]

i know many people dont like traversing with VC but im with you, i cant live wo it

[hollow spindle]

i get it, I did that last cycle with my VK and enjoyed the baked in movement skill, but I've slowly and begrudingly come to enjoy lunge somewhat

[honest flume]

The target requirement on Lunge irks me to no end but I guess I could live with it more now that there's Evade

[cursive compass]

travelling with VC is amazing

[turbid dome]

is a vengence dual wield build a thing? or is this just for leveling

[honest flume]

I know the Paranoia helmet exists but I've never seen one in my 500+ hours in this game

[turbid dome]

it do be very rare tho

[honest flume]

Now I'm tempted to try this with DW since you brought it up

Renegade's Will + Palarus 🤔

too bad we can't dual wield maces, imagine the attack speed you could achieve with two of those

[hollow spindle]

You've played 500 hours since 1.1? o_0

[quiet hearth]

I think they mean in total

[hollow spindle]

Isn't paranoia a new 1.1 item? or am I just misremembering

[honest flume]

I've played since... 0.7? 0.8? Not sure

Paranoia was added in 0.7 according to LETools

[hollow spindle]

I got one earlier today, empowered it. wasn't horrible, but prefer my other helmet currently:

[turbid dome]

its implict stats got reduced but got the less dmg while moving thing

[quiet hearth]

lmao, the ruby fang bonuses proc off relatiation xD

[turbid dome]

oh my Ettera I'm level 73 and just got the crit multi per void knight passive

[quiet hearth]

F

[umbral hedge]

Omg thanks so much

[hoary zodiac]

God I'm loving void knight. I wanted to do a erasure build without void cleave but that guaranteed crit is so good

[glad pike]

Mid-late game is pretty much done. Got the Apathy's Maw and my erasing strike damage went from 9k (dreamthorn) to 15k... Everything simply dies instantly

[fiery raptor]

do we have a 'best practices' for forge guard minions/forged weapons yet?

[honest flume]

Apathy's Maw is a hell of a weapon for sure

[hollow spindle]

is that target dummy damage or "skill hover" damage?

[turbid dome]

welcome to the apathy's maw life

just wait till you slam flat melee void dmg and increased void dmg on it (:

[wooden adder]

is the shield bash unique a trap? got one might try it

[quiet hearth]

I...Im killing mobs via poison just by standing here

[mighty lark]

sorry for late ping again, why javelin? what do you grab there? just the smite?

[tawdry oasis]

yea smite + the mobility. dr3adful has a build on yt / lastepochtools that has that as a setup. You can experiment with whatever you want too. lunge + smite on lunge is also very clean

[mighty lark]

i didnt noticve anything in javelin for the mobility, maybe im blind

[honest flume]

what are you using to apply poison?

[empty moon]

hey so would the sunforged set be any good for a forged weapon build?

[quiet hearth]

the base sentinel has a counter attack node

[dark field]

Aww. You can't have multiple Ravaging auras

[quiet hearth]

like it isnt doing it WELL but it still was, which was kinda funny

[flat skiff]

Is this where I can ask about Sentinel builds, or is that a faux pas?

[quiet hearth]

you have arrived in the correct place

[flat skiff]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/bonk-knight---erasing-strike-void-knight#intro
I've been following this build, but it's not dated for the latest release. Is there a more up to date build I should be following? This doesn't seem to do much with the Vitality -> multiplicative melee void damage and the mana requirements seem out of line for the changes made to regen in this patch

[crude matrix]

Bonk Knight - Erasing Strike Void Knight Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.6

Class

Sentinel / Void Knight

Used skills

• Void Cleave
• Erasing Strike
• Abyssal Echoes
• Volatile Reversal
• Anomaly

Used unique items

• Titan Heart
• Apathy's Maw
• Shattered Chains
• Darkstride
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Melee

Created by bokchoy · Mar 27, 2024, 2:03 AM

[flat skiff]

Overall great build, and I'm still leveling in campaign (around 50 atm) so I know my opinions could just be wrong. Wanted to check in with you fine folks

[quiet hearth]

seems pretty spot on really, if engi is here they can explain it better than I can

[flat skiff]

For a Sentinel build it also doesn't use the "Poison/Necrotic/Void taken as physical" affixes, which I would think would do a lot for survival? Am I over estimating that? Damage conversion is really strong in POE

[quiet hearth]

Those are pretty strong, but remember phys is an affix here and armor is another thing entirely

[hollow spindle]

It's a decent starting build, there's some flexibility and personal preference of course. like Darkstride is now interchangable with "The Inevitable" and the erased sentinel relic is interchangable with "Anchor of Oblivion" I think double Siphon of Anguish is overkill. Nihilis or Omnis can be swapped out for the Amulet too. I'm also not a fan of volatile reversal, and Apathy's maw synergizes really well with Rive. Again, lots of flexibility on how you want to play things out and what skills you wanna focus on.

[flat skiff]

The thing is, while I like the game and understand the mechanics, I don't really think I'm a build crafter or number cruncher. I like following someone smarter than me to BONK efficiently 😄

I'll just keep playing with this until empowered monos then, if I get frustrated I'll likely post for some clarification

[quiet hearth]

Nah it's all good, it's really hard to screw up in this game. That guide pretty much is what you want to follow, if something doesnt feel right try swapping out a skill. Once you get the the squid island getting xp is a breeze anyway

[glad pike]

That feeling when you destroy two barriers and half of the boss HP in just two hits

[quiet hearth]

this should NOT be working as well as it is

[ember wasp]

Shield bash my favorite build atm

[honest flume]

are you playing it in monos

[lunar mortar]

No, the minions won't get anything good from the set. It's decent for a forge strike hit build

[quiet hearth]

I am, not to empowered yet but I am melting things, which is impressive because I am this weird poison,bleed,ignite fg build

[honest flume]

where are you getting your poison from?

[quiet hearth]

the ruby fang set believe it or not

[honest flume]

are you using HH to proc the shield's effect? or a diff fire skill altogether

[quiet hearth]

Im using HH but also multistrike dropping forge strike w/ detonating ground.

[primal heron]

How does stalwart work? I put 1 point into it and randomly get stacks of stalwart up to 10

Oh it is related to Forgeguard's passive

[quiet hearth]

I gotta work blind back into my build, I keep not paying attention to mods and crits are killing me, or almost at least

[fair anchor]

Bash is so fkn OP 😂 … makes hardcore a breeze

[winged pulsar]

Those last couple levels for 100 took an eternity.

[spark monolith]

Yeah, I bet. Can you push pretty well on your build?

[brave crater]

Can someone explain to me how vengeance works when using it with javelin (following maxroll pally levelling build). When i attack an enemy with vengeance there is no indicator that i am riposting (unless I am blind) I took the points in the tree that I deal more damage whilst preparing to riposte and I see no damage increase.

[rigid dragon]

why are there no void knight builds on th is https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/ for 1.1

[winged pulsar]

Nah. Paladin warpath was a rough start. Was hard to break 300c until a few items. Now I’m stuck around 500c without some harder upgrades.

[celest jetty]

Not much changed for VK probably
And noone seems to Main VK so builds will come when they make them twinks^^

[pale ibex]

any dw rive void knight build?

[spark monolith]

I see. Yeah, I took an ignite warpath to 900c in 1.0 before I quit due to item investment. Trying healing hands this time around.

[rigid dragon]

so what builds are good and what class

[celest jetty]

Forge guard is new and shiny

[steep ledge]

anyone know if hammer throw, spiral skill is bugged?

[empty moon]

so would you guys recommend HH or sigils for a forged weapon build

[serene prism]

What's the maximum block chance? The block page in-game shows block effectiveness cannot exceed 85%, but there's no mention of a cap on block chance. 😦

[spark monolith]

100%

[serene prism]

Thank you

[tight sage]

I don't understand what's so good about the Ocearon ring? I'm not sure why it's BiS for Rive VK as per maxroll's guide

[celest jetty]

Shock and chill
Just getting ailments on
enemies^^

[serene prism]

Haven't looked up the rive build to see what it has or is missing, but Ocearon gives a lot of ailments and is a good source of shock with an additional 10% damage if you stack shock. Shock itself also reduces resists so if Ocearon is your only source of shock, it's a great multiplier.

[tight sage]

alright makes sense, thanks!

[cosmic ivy]

they added this new axe to build erasing strike

[barren spire]

Guys could someone help me with a build real quick please?

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/KoPZVvgQ

I would like to know if I should change bases, items or points for 1.1

I was thinking to use Orian's Sun Seal for the Sigils of hope and Palarus's Sacred Light instead of Aurelis, what you guys think?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Paladin (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,878, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 197, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 10 Dex / 10 Int / 10 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 96% / 89% / 64% / 74% / 72% / 37%
▸ EHP: 9,432 / 9,810 / 9,810 / 14,440 / 9,713 / 9,478 / 7,083

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 848
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,951)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Physical, Void / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Smite (22)
• Javelin (20)
• Healing Hands (24)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Aurelis
• Blood of the Exile
• Bleeding Heart
• Ucenui's Sphere

This build has a guide:

Holy Winds Electrify Smite Hh Paladin Full Build Guide Showcase by Dr3adful

[spark monolith]

I wouldn't use sun seal. With that setup auto sigils would only maintain 2 sigils. The sword you lose pen, dmg, and smite levels for more aoe smites. So, maybe more aoe vs single target

[barren spire]

Should I keep the same bases or the new ones are better?

[cosmic ivy]

too much dmg 😭

[spark monolith]

That build is well put together. You could swap the aurelis out for sacred light. It would would work very well.

otherwise I wouldn't change much

[trim cove]

is it normal that the tooltips damage is way higher than actual damage dealt? My shield bash shows 7k on tooltips, but it is only 2k when dealt on even trash mobs 10 levels lower

[spark monolith]

mobs have built-in damage reduction. Its 90% end game

[trim cove]

not dps

[cosmic ivy]

I GOT IT!!

[trim cove]

im still in the main quest, last act, i dont think is end game yet?

[spark monolith]

Nice on the axe

[spark monolith]

Not endgame yet. But they still have some damage reduction. Just not 90%

[trim cove]

ok...

[barren spire]

Ok thank you very much!
When do you think I should move to this build? Like what are the minimum requirements?
Right now I`m javelin build for leveling (the usual one from maxroll)

[spark monolith]

That's harder to say. Probably between 70-80. Going to need to bleeding heart for sustain and wand for -3 mana cost

[burnt bronze]

Would a paladin/VK with both new abberaths command and palarus be to many things to fit in (warpath+smite+voic cleave) or has anyone tried it?

[flat skiff]

I want that

[spark monolith]

You could. Probably would want to be a dot-build.

[sterile latch]

gonna make my golem get 340% of that more necrotic & cold damage and craft a necrotic + cold 2h

[cosmic ivy]

is that any good

need more mana

[cold dock]

so, just checking but FG hammerdin is like ENTIRELY carried by Javelineer and Walls of Solarum right?

[sterile latch]

idk if it's good

[granite otter]

Hi. We can only have one instance of Ravaging Aura (from Void Cleave) up at a time?

[gloomy igloo]

if u are on rank 3 on the forgotten knights do the harbringer spawns without u got 125 courrution or not?

[sterile latch]

I forgot there is no melee necrotic affix. WHY GHG?! 😭

[cosmic ivy]

im shredding harbingers rn after dropping the axe

[open hinge]

void knight main stat is str or vit ?

[cosmic ivy]

str

[celest jetty]

Both

[cosmic ivy]

vit gives spell damage

[open hinge]

i'm playing crit erasing

[cold dock]

both

[celest jetty]

Hover over your skills

[open hinge]

yeah vit + flat void damage

so i think vit + more damage than str

[tribal basin]

Its nice to see peoples builds coming together

[rain cliff]

So is forge guard even worth it after that stupidly ridiculous base damage nerf for summons? Seems like it cancelled out all the other changes to the class

[jade rover]

Hey, any of you guys have managed to make the flame burst node from holy aura to work ? It seems like that none of my melee strike stack fiery inquisition, if anyone got clues thx 🙏

[waxen nymph]

It's not that impactful, especially late game. They have a innate more dmg. Late game they will be stronger. Early a bit weaker

[heavy yarrow]

how is forge guard looking this cycle compared to VK or Pal then