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hollow spindle
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what's the button/setting to show the loot filter number on the ground?

quiet hearth
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z by default

vagrant bone
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its x?

hollow spindle
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I thought 1.1 had a new feature to have loot filters show the number of the rule causing it to display next to it though

quiet hearth
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OH that, Ive no clue

hollow tulip
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can warpath trigger clerics hammer in healing hands

dark field
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once

hollow tulip
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dang

turbid dome
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am I missing a benefit to banishing a nemesis? if I want to reroll it why not just kill it

hollow spindle
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Womp Womp

south lynx
dark field
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^

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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in theory it could have just nothing you want to fool with and you dont feel like fighting it

charred stag
quiet hearth
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Ok so, we would need to reach min of 32 mana regen to perma FS

dark field
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Is that just slamming over and over?

quiet hearth
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ye

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maybe use urzils pride and stack lightning res

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yeah urzils is mandatory

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which is NOT a sentence I thought I'd ever form

dark field
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Not even with World Splitter?

quiet hearth
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World splitter is only like 3-4 mana regen

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you HAVE to use an inscribed tablet for that flat -3 too

dark field
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Wait. Shield Charge doesn't start mana regen 😦

quiet hearth
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why would you think it did?

dark field
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I thought all channel skills start regen now lol

quiet hearth
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No no, they CAN regen while you are channeling but only IF you have enough mana regen.

dark field
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Oh you know what. Ya I'm dumb

quiet hearth
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So for the put to the sword node in FS, is it only regular crit multi that increases phys pen, or does melee crit multi also increase it?

lusty cairn
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I got this as a red weapon with 33% increased melee attack speed

hollow spindle
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red weapon?

quiet hearth
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harbingers can drop uber bases

charred stag
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legendary

hollow spindle
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oh so if you find a dreamthorn on a harbinger and empower it, it can get random bonus stats?

quiet hearth
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can get LP

hollow spindle
quiet hearth
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So, world splitter is actually kinda bait I think, because I dont think melee muti applies to the bleed pen

quiet hearth
quiet hearth
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I literally cannot read, it says crit multi FROM THE TREE

turbid dome
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F

quiet hearth
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🤡 actual photo of me irl

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But that is still 200% phys pen for bleed, nothing to sneeze and and opens affixes

dark field
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So worldsplitter if you're doing bleed

quiet hearth
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Nah a good rare beats it out

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However, there might be something there for a 1h variant to use cleaver solution and use mana spent as ward and be ward based.

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But likely better off just going 2h and getting bleed duration

lusty cairn
haughty canopy
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ffs my first nemesis is a t6 ele resist onos tull

turbid dome
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could be worse, could get a great leveling item for a different class

rigid dragon
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what do you guys recomend this league void knight any good or are they the worst class in whole game

haughty canopy
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yah but mt current sentinels no minions
going vc/es vk
took the scrap metal node for foe hammer

dark field
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My best nemesis has been this so far

rigid dragon
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yes but doesnt matter if you love voidknight, are they any good can they push high content or are they still one of the shitter classes

turbid dome
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I love them because void cleave + erasing strike just kills everything even at higher corruption

hollow spindle
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@rigid dragon but it actually doesn't, people do play games that don't require that class/build to be "S" tier. (not saying VK is or isn't, just pointing out that saying "doesn't matter if you love voidknight" because it actually does, just play what makes you happy)

ancient bridge
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ES vk is solid

rigid dragon
haughty canopy
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pally and vk
pally you can go smite hammers/ hh

hollow spindle
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Just look @ lastepochtools and search for builds based on skills, there's plenty (albeit they will be last season builds most likely since the new patch has been out for less than 12 hours)

turbid dome
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FG is a big maybe this cycle

cursive compass
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void knight damage with HH is still nutty

dense portal
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anyone seeing shield throw's ricochet not bouncing enough times? I can replicate when there is only one enemy and I have a minion

haughty canopy
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suck ass nemesis drop

tired jungle
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This is just sick

cursive compass
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world splitter VK

cursive compass
tired jungle
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I just tested it, you don't even need Sigils on your hotbar, it completely opens up another skill slot

haughty canopy
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Just have sigils on kill
It's off the bar and all that jazz

rigid dragon
haughty canopy
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There is nothing much for us meatheads.. other than fg

lament umbra
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hows warpath for 1h this patch boys?

chilly sage
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hmm i wonder if this is usefull

turbid dome
rigid dragon
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what build is it people are talking about warpath continuously spawning orbs?

solemn harbor
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Why did I find this in a level 20 zone? I don't even play VK!

soft tapir
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what sublcass is best for smite on hit sword?

cold rose
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pala/vk

soft tapir
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whats the diffrene between them

haughty canopy
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rip my 2nd nemesis

solemn harbor
haughty canopy
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vk are more big hitters

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well third nemesis is riverbend grasp

turbid dome
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I just got this, wish I had minions, thanks nemisus

soft tapir
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i love the idea of constant smite triggers what does that

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also i wish you could swap

chilly sage
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this doesnt work lol i have it and it doesnt spin my hammers they go straight

solemn harbor
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Nemesis is kinda broken... lol

haughty canopy
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you guys keep getting sentinel gear lol

chilly sage
turbid dome
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also I just realized the nemisus-es have a dead player character under the spear stab

haughty canopy
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hmm what to take as spare skill for a vk vc.es build?currently its vc/es/vr/

turbid dome
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I'm running ES/VC/Rebuke/Lunge/rive

haughty canopy
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debating between rive or hh
rive is nice for mana regen though

honest flume
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you won't get as much out of HH as a VK

haughty canopy
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vc/es ?

honest flume
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are you using cleave to auto-crit erasing strike?

fierce raptor
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y can't warpath be a channel skill

haughty canopy
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understand that node is somewhat of a noob trap

turbid dome
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?

honest flume
fierce raptor
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you're right, i checked the tags but i'm not regening mana

dark field
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Is there a block cap?

honest flume
glad pike
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Is the node Shattered Continuity worth for VK?

turbid dome
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can you support the mana for it? (the consume 3 void essence for mana helps this)

glad pike
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No I can't for now. Understood

timid dagger
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any idea if they know shield Rush is bugged? I really wanna keep playing the ignite build but really cant when the spell is so bugged

turbid dome
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hows its bugged?

honest flume
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the only bug I can remember is the movement itself being weird

timid dagger
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the node on it that lets it not have a cd and cost hp. When you spam the spell to heal/deal damage your character gets stuck and cant move or attack till you use a spell or evade

lost python
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And how it’s FG? Good

timid dagger
honest flume
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well I got the smite sword to drop, but I'm playing FG 😬

frank widget
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hello. does the prayer paladin passive work with holy aura's passive healing regen?

ebon patrol
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so anyone tested out minion FG enough to see if its good?

dark field
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It's been fine thus far

spark monolith
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pretty insane for leveling

gaunt herald
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Does anyone think Divine Bolt Pally is still viable?

tribal basin
random python
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Dude, bleed javelin Is unplayable without idols. Definitely not a leveling build. LOL

winter copper
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who told u it is???

turbid dome
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sadly if a build really wants idols for something its not gonna be good for leveling

merry dove
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Has there been any thought of how world splitter could be abused, Erasing Strike or Void Cleave maybe?

chilly sage
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build with this is crazy lmao

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literally invincible 💀 and nice damage

jade cedar
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guys. is warpath+healing hands now possible since we regen mana while spinning?

rugged horizon
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is this good for warpath leveling

patent fossil
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Are hammers good now? A/S tier?

south lynx
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is there a bleed chance is time rot chance thing in the game? i remember seeing something but idr where

turbid dome
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Erasing strike has that on final hour (node that also gives 100% more against enemies with 12 time rot)

chilly sage
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any1 got Horns of Uhkeiros ?

primal heron
chilly sage
primal heron
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Doing warpath vk rn. What does horns of uhkeiros do?

chilly sage
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but its dropped by that empowered boss so its endgame

viscid loom
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I'm so conflicted on which mastery for a warpath build

lethal needle
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Anyone playing captain America build yet

glad pike
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Doesn't Rive becomes purple at some point? I thought it would after allocating this feat

jade cedar
waxen nymph
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Directly

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Means when you press the skill Smite

jade cedar
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i have read it, just making sure that its not only referring to the idol smite

primal heron
waxen nymph
viscid loom
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Do any of the masteries give like crazy mana regen for the ramping Warpath passive?

waxen nymph
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Nope

marble wasp
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Im trying to decide between sigils or abyssal echos for warpath ive seen guides for both, but i dont know which route to go for min max dmg, thank you for your time in advance

waxen nymph
viscid loom
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oo, void well looks nice

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Yeah, I'm going Void Knight

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Omg! And I can convert smite to void damage! Everything is looking great

empty moon
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alright lay it on me how bad is the paladin now

waxen nymph
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It's good

lament umbra
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I dont know anybody going paladin xD

waxen nymph
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Not crack broken op because HH is not crack broken pp anymore

lament umbra
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even when you look up builds its pretty sad

waxen nymph
cerulean sorrel
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maxroll still has paladin pretty high on their tierlists, though idk how updated they really are, despite their claims.

waxen nymph
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All the builds that were good without abusing HH are still good

cerulean sorrel
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ftr, I am going paladin. I never played a sentinel last cycle so I won't know what I'm missing, and it looks fun.

empty moon
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last i did was a rive HH pala and it was good but i dont if i want to do that again tho it seems a health HH pala could be good still

haughty canopy
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,327, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 119, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 44% / 24% / 24% / 0% / 20% / 22% / 22%
▸ EHP: 1,225 / 1,063 / 1,063 / 931 / 1,035 / 1,049 / 1,049

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 265
▸ Armor Mitigation: 5% (99)

Damage Types:

Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Void Cleave (20)
Erasing Strike (20)
Volatile Reversal (20)
Sigils Of Hope (20)
Rive (20)

Used unique items:

None

waxen nymph
empty moon
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oh they dropped the damage i thought they fixed the tag issues and made it stronger with that

waxen nymph
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They nerfed the Flat Dmg per Heal Effect

empty moon
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oof

haughty canopy
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we kinda guessed it lol its was too oped

empty moon
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maybe i try forge guard rive tho i dont know if that will be good in the end

marsh warren
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Has anyone tried out the forge guard? If it feels good with the changes. If there is more viability with the armor pet?

zenith sleet
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how is sentinel this cycle so far looking?

haughty canopy
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if you get lucky with nemesis drops
very viable

zenith sleet
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which of the 3 subclasses requires teh least amount of uniques early?

haughty canopy
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pally cos HT jav still meta af

granite forge
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is a Devouring orb VK build viable this cycle?

empty moon
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hmmm triple summon forge guard looks promising

waxen nymph
dark field
empty moon
tacit zealot
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if ive got the bleed node in warpath, increase to phys damage would be better than melee so i scale bleed also? or is it just damage over time for bleeds

haughty canopy
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think %phys and dot applies to bleed

tacit zealot
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yeah thats what i thought too but unsure as i never usually go bleeds but i need to wait till 20 for smite lol

twilit valley
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Noticed at times when I portal to another map , sometimes it stays on loading screen .. anyone experience this ?

icy jay
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I wonder if a shield bash build is possible or is a hate toward life generator

honest flume
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There's already a shield bash build on maxroll

granite forge
empty moon
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double shield forge guard does sound pretty nice

south lynx
haughty canopy
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Thought you guys heading into deep end of the one punch judgement

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And when did we get the profanity filter on?

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Also what's the use of the smite sword?

icy jay
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Yeah i think i would roll it amyway even just for flavour

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2 shields bro

grim fog
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I came back after the first month of 1.0 I wanted to try a diferent Sentinel build is Healing Hands builds still a thing? If so should I go Rive or Smite one?

hollow bolt
astral lintel
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Is Weapon Master node from fg tree not applying bleed fixed?

south lynx
hollow bolt
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Well, good to know. Thx

quiet hearth
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good to see sentinel still cant reach the void worm with most of his abilities in that bonus area after you kill the void cleric

haughty canopy
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??? the extra passive point one? by the risenlake?

hybrid plank
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very good, is there any build in tier S?

neat turret
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i got a +19 strength titan heart from the league mechanic
whats a character build/skill that uses this?

last release i tried a shockwave sunder sort of thing but it didnt feel very endgame viable

haughty canopy
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question: does this idol come into effect when the auto echo on es procs?`

hallow shell
haughty canopy
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my nemesis items are not geared towards my build :sadge:

obtuse rock
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Playing shield bash but man the sound effect is horrible and the visual is blinding haha

quiet hearth
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thought my FS build was going sideways, only to realize I was still using a lvl 11 wpn at lvl 33, that pen carries so hard

lament sandal
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Been thinking about building an erasing strike void knight cause I like big numbers but fear the dps might be lacking for bossing, any experiences?

waxen nymph
waxen nymph
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You build AS and bonk fast

lament sandal
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Ohhhh I thought its meant to be one button, screen empty but a few seconds cooldown. Well if thats the case I guess i worried for nothing haha

haughty canopy
waxen nymph
scenic gyro
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how would you determine if flat dmg or crit multi is better ?
flat dmg if you got alot % increase?

waxen nymph
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Excel 😳

scenic gyro
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rough estimate to go on? dont wanna turn this into poe

amber solstice
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hmm i have holy aura with flame burst but i dont see any debuffs on enemies ?!

waxen nymph
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It doesn't show, you should see the explosion

waxen nymph
amber solstice
waxen nymph
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And what it cost you to take one of the other

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Plus how much crit chance do you have

scenic gyro
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100%

waxen nymph
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Do you have any other sources of Crit multi?

scenic gyro
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well i've been stacking crit multi alot
and flat dmg is pretty scarce

waxen nymph
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Sound like you might need more Flat than ^^

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Do you have Suloron?

scenic gyro
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nah, trying to scale smite, wouldnt work
im just torn if i get multi or flat on sword, thats the only slot where i could get flat

waxen nymph
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Smite?

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Go get Crit Multi

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You can have Flat with Devotion

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And if you are a VK you can have Flat with Vitality

quiet hearth
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I think a VK Vit mana stack using some of that new dmg take to mana instead would be super strong

scenic gyro
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devotion doesnt work for me, i got 0 mana cost

waxen nymph
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...

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You are saying you can't empty your mana?

scenic gyro
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yes, cause im playing auto bomber with warpath

waxen nymph
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Cast a bunch of unspecced Sigils

scenic gyro
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but then i have to press more than 1 button

waxen nymph
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🤷

scenic gyro
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flat dmg it is then, dont have many other sources

leaden totem
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Vc + ES is a good lvling build?

zenith blaze
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hey guys, I am following builds on maxroll, just curious what build you think I should start off with as a hammerdin and what build should be more towards endgame?

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should I start with smite hammerdin then transition to nova hammerdin?

wise rune
wide folio
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guys, quest echo of The Stolen Lance is error right?

icy jay
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Will that axe/shield mimic unique be good to use skills like vengeance right? Cause it counts as weapon.

waxen nymph
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Doesn't have a lot of flat imo

icy jay
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Yeah just to use tankiness of vengeance and refill mana

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In my mind it was bash bash bash bash, vengeance to refill, bash bash bash

waxen nymph
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Oh I thought you want to play it with Vengeance as a main skill

teal tinsel
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Ight got done with campaing gotta plan my forge guard

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really wana make use of this but im wondering what to go with it

zenith blaze
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what lvl should I be transitioning into bleed hammerdin? currently I'm using holy trail at lvl 70

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the gear is non existent on the bazaar so it's kind of tough to change builds...

arctic bay
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Can I get a nice forge guard build?

radiant breach
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Hows healing hands melee doing after the patch ? Is it still viable ?

wise rune
restive pagoda
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Can crit javelin as main skill be viable?

radiant breach
waxen nymph
restive pagoda
radiant breach
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Thanks tub

radiant lily
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What do you guys think about warpath void knight in this season?

lament sandal
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its always good i think, cant go wrong with that

turbid dome
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void knight got buffed so its going to be better

rose bane
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is shield bash ok?

wise rune
echo rapids
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Anyone found MA bugged in Lagon fight?

turbid dome
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does MA get stuck?

echo rapids
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It keep running toward a tentacle wall, come back when pressing A, then go back to running

turbid dome
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I'd try resummoning him next to what you want him to target

echo rapids
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I tried that, but after attacking 2-3 times, he starts running toward the wall again lol

turbid dome
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weird, still happened even if you A clicked on your target?

echo rapids
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yep

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I didn't record the vid when I fought Lagon, but I have a vid after I defeated him, which the MA still acts the same

radiant lily
echo rapids
turbid dome
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that might be because the AM sees that as a valid space to walk? idk def a bug to report

inner valley
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How is divine bolt build now?

valid cove
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does anyone here know which build the paladin from the leaderboard is using?

gusty abyss
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You could grab his name and put it into LETools character profiles, that should tell you

valid cove
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Ah nice, did not know that, thanks

gusty abyss
turbid dome
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the ol build yoinker

valid cove
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im not gonna play hammers, so yeah no yoinking it, just wondering what hes playing 🙂

teal tinsel
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Anyone got a Forge guard tank/forged weapons build?

mortal cobalt
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Is there a way to make the armament procs on multistrike hit the target of the initial swing? or is its single target just gonna be hella wack without something like healing hands proccing off of it?

topaz gale
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Wanna try javelin lightning with smite trigger, good idea?

mortal cobalt
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iirc it was wack before because you needed the multi-hit from hammers to make sure you procced smite consistently, but now that you can get 100% proc chance it might be a lot better now, even if it's not quite as fast as hammer is

honest flume
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I'm at lvl 60ish on my ignite rive forge guard and I pretty much forgot about the Evade skill

bold glen
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makes me wanna try this on my FG 🤔

waxen nymph
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That a nice Spell Forged Weapons Sword kappa

bold glen
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at least it does something 😄 but dunno if it's worth trying

uncut urchin
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i feel like with the right stats its worth to use in lategame?

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it does allow warpath to trigger smite

waxen nymph
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It does allow warpath to trigger more Smite making it's single target super good

wise rune
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yeah palarus is definitely worth using endgame for certain builds

waxen nymph
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It's really strong with very lpl

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So easy to get 2-3 even 4 lp

wise rune
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i got it insanely early and had most of my damage coming from smite before i even unlocked smite

uncut urchin
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lol

waxen nymph
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^^

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Sweet

uncut urchin
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ive been using seraph blade

waxen nymph
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I will definitely do a Warpath Flame Burst Smite this season cycle

bold glen
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these gorgon mobs in monos are actually pretty scary for a melee character it seems

wise rune
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honestly the smoothest levelling experience i've ever had because of it, though spell warpath paladin was already a fantastic levelling build without it

haughty canopy
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debating between rive or seraph blade for my vk

waxen nymph
uncut urchin
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would save a skill slot since seraph blade triggers off itself with cleric

haughty canopy
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not sure the ward is worth it.. main vc/es

waxen nymph
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Ward gen on HH is really now

haughty canopy
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so far its vc/es/vr/soh/rive(hh)

waxen nymph
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Anomaly?

wise rune
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anomaly is good in that setup

haughty canopy
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drop rive for anomaly?

wise rune
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what do you even use rive for there

icy jay
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What if you shield bash with vk and echoes?

waxen nymph
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Your passives can't echoes Movement Skill

icy jay
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Bash, not rush

haughty canopy
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mana sustain @wise rune

wise rune
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ah

waxen nymph
haughty canopy
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with that rive node and rive affix

wise rune
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you should be able to get to the point where VC/ES can self sustain and then you won't need rive so probably drop it for anomaly once you get there

haughty canopy
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you mean void well?

wise rune
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yeah void well makes it really easy to do

slow creek
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Would judgement aura paladin still be good in 1.1 patch?

void nimbus
uncut urchin
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does vengeance proc seraph blade on the riposte?

waxen nymph
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No

haughty canopy
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no

slow creek
# waxen nymph Yes

Would you say its stronger or weaker this patch? Last time i played was on the release, so im not sure if there have been any changes to it since

waxen nymph
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Pious Offering got nerfed but the Added Dmg Effectiveness got buffed, and other nodes got buffed too

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Not sure what the exact result is, but it seems pretty similar

rose comet
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Looking to try out that double shield build and was trying to decide between Paladin and FG. I was leaning FG because I also saw the ignite shield rush build that looked fun but can’t decide which will be better

waxen nymph
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FG

haughty canopy
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the new buffed class is always better

waxen nymph
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It's shinier

rose comet
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That what I thought lol, started with some buddies last night and had to pick so grabbed Paladin but only lvl 30 so I can quickly swap and got lucky and found a fire starters so I need to research a FG build to speed lvl with it

waxen nymph
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Bleed Hammer

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And with the Firestarter it will be even easier

rose comet
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Awesome thanks. Any gear that synergizes the bleed and torch?

haughty canopy
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so bleed hammers until you get the shields?

rose comet
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Appreciate the info Vlad!

wise rune
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 954, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 145, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 22 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 39% / 39% / 0% / 32% / 4% / 4%
▸ EHP: 1,198 / 916 / 916 / 765 / 871 / 729 / 729

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 191
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (752)

Damage Types:

Fire / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

Warpath (22)
Holy Aura (20)
Smite (20)

Used unique items:
uncut urchin
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😠 dodge rating

rotund pond
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😄

turbid dome
waxen nymph
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And get more Spell Dmg, MS or reduce Mana cost

wise rune
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yeah i think you could honestly

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might not make that big a difference when you have palarus casting it already

uncut urchin
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im down to do it, do you have a link with more passives allocated?

arctic bay
waxen nymph
wise rune
#

ye you should be able to take any 1.0 spell warpath paladin and just add palarus to it basically

void nimbus
#

Is melee proc healing hands any good for spell warpath?

wise rune
#

no because it only activates once per channel of warpath

solid forge
#

Warpath has its own healing node

void nimbus
#

Does divine bolts only have one proc per click as well? Doesn't seem great or is it procing from something else

uncut urchin
#

divine bolt on on hit

#

healing hands is on using a melee attack

void nimbus
#

Ah makes sense, sorry rookie questions haven't played sentinal much

uncut urchin
#

ayy first blessing

dark field
#

N ice job!

uncut urchin
#

all skill

turbid dome
#

Love that blessing

vagrant bone
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,969, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 968, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 13 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 138% / 76% / 106% / 57% / 89% / 64% / 29%
▸ EHP: 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 15,521 / 8,794 / 7,887 / 6,002

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,999)

Damage Types:

Fire, Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

Warpath (24)
Smite (21)
Holy Aura (21)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Sigils Of Hope (21)

wise rune
#

i feel like dual palarus has to be vastly inferior to having a sceptre mainhand to get the fire penetration

#

also phantom grip seems kinda useless without forged weapons unless i'm missing something

tight sage
#

Ooo got a 25% smite chance idol + high health roll

turbid dome
#

👀

tight sage
#

time to respec soon maybe 😄

uncut urchin
#

does each palarus have its own smite cast limit or is it shared?

#

if you go double palarus its basicly double damage from smite since you double the casts

turbid dome
#

Tho at that point I would just fit forged weapons into the build, especially with two of them, even if I’m not investing in minions that much

arctic bay
wise rune
uncut urchin
#

holy precision is 200% but i dont know where else you get crit

turbid dome
#

If we’re criting with smite it’s the conviction node +2 flat crit chance, -5% cast speed, 5 points

uncut urchin
#

ah right

obsidian slate
#

I want to try the new unique sword on a smite warpath build. Is it better to do that as paladin or forge guard?

wise rune
#

thats 10 flat crit from smite, you get another 10 flat crit from warpath for holding a sword

turbid dome
#

15% only needs like 650% increased crit chance to cap it

obsidian slate
vagrant bone
#

plus mana stacking on this build is how i get my dmg cause of devotion

turbid dome
#

Just get the conviction node on smite instead, using two rings and not using half the stats on them isn’t great

uncut urchin
#

this is probably the tree i tought people would go with

gusty abyss
#

You might want to take another like at the more damage vs ignited node

uncut urchin
#

losing conflagration kinda sucks tho

wise rune
wise rune
frigid ice
#

cast Judgement, mana now zero

vagrant bone
#

with sigils being instant cast i cast that while spinning

uncut urchin
#

sigils make you at 0 mana constantly

#

thats what im doing too

vagrant bone
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,969, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 950, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 13 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 138% / 76% / 106% / 75% / 89% / 101% / 66%
▸ EHP: 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 18,301 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,067

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,999)

Damage Types:

Fire, Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

Warpath (24)
Smite (21)
Holy Aura (21)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Sigils Of Hope (21)

obsidian slate
turbid dome
#

Paladin gets hella healing effectiveness

grim fog
uncut urchin
#

not talking about selfcast

grim fog
#

ah

bleak breach
#

what are some good traversal skills for void knight? i was hoping the lunge could be transformed into more of a dash but it doesnt seem so without allies

uncut urchin
#

shield rush

wise rune
#

void cleave is my favorite traversal but it does require a 2 handed sword or axe. theres also a unique helmet that makes lunge not require a target

turbid dome
#

Tub stole the knowledge of paranoia hat right outa my message

uncut urchin
#

can also use shield rush without a shield with that 1 point

turbid dome
#

Yea

teal tinsel
#

So anyone found a fun forge guard build?

uncut urchin
#

i play forge guard as a pure summoner lol

wise rune
#

there seem to be a lot of people going dual shield

teal tinsel
#

thats what im trying right now lol Tank summoner

bleak breach
uncut urchin
#

pretty fast

bleak breach
#

and i'm assuming it's only in one direction lol, like i cant just rush in circles XD

teal tinsel
#

but im not very good at makin builds so kinda tryign to find a build online but it feels like no one plays forge guard lmao

turbid dome
#

Pick a direction and go

Shield rush also lets you run through some thin walls (unless that got fixed)

bleak breach
#

that's normal, lol

turbid dome
#

The catacombs map is truely a silly area

teal tinsel
#

Anyone got advice if iwant to go for a full doubleshield tank summoner? as forge guard

turbid dome
#

Not sure if you would want double shield for forged weapons, cause they can’t make use of the insane flat damage to shield bash

turbid dome
# dark field The what?

This thing is your main hand weapon if your doing a double shield forge guard, it’s an “axe” with the stats of a shield. To my knowledge forged weapons can’t shield bash

dark field
#

Oh right ya.

cursive compass
teal tinsel
cursive compass
#

it seems VK erasing strike is the way to go, anyone considering using healing hands as a travel skill? seems bad

turbid dome
teal tinsel
#

sick was planning on double rings from the start what do you think are the best kinds of gloves to have for dmg?

turbid dome
#

I’ve never really done a forged weapon build but I would guess melee attack speed and crit chance, throwing some health or other defense stats into the suffixes

turbid dome
teal tinsel
#

hm yeah thats what the ring seems best for was considering going for a kidna fire stacking forged weapons but ig crit is also insanely good

turbid dome
#

Fire damage hit or ignite?

If ignite drop the crit for something else

teal tinsel
#

ah ignite yeah

dark field
#

Can we allow Void Cleave to use 2h hammers ugh

turbid dome
turbid dome
dark field
#

Really sucks. Lol.

turbid dome
#

It do, at least there’s always apathy’s maw

obsidian slate
#

don't suppose anyone has a planner for smite warpath before I take a stab at making my own botched build?

crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,969, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 950, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 13 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 138% / 76% / 106% / 75% / 89% / 101% / 66%
▸ EHP: 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 18,301 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,067

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,999)

Damage Types:

Fire, Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

Warpath (24)
Smite (21)
Holy Aura (21)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Sigils Of Hope (21)

wooden rune
#

hm, should i be happy or not

uncut urchin
#

i mean its better than some useless stat, id take it

wooden rune
#

true

turbid dome
#

Tbh I would be happy with that relic without any extra affixes, like it’s not the best but everything on it is generally useful

grim fog
turbid dome
#

Ye

hollow spindle
#

does empowering a nemesis allow it to turn existing rares into legendary?

#

Like if I have this choice, does empower give it a chance to turn the rare ring or rare sentinel relic into legendary versions?

gusty abyss
#

no, might get exalted though

tribal basin
#

No , but it can upgrade them to Exalted and add Sealed affixes

uncut urchin
#

rares can become exalted and uniques can become legendary or gain potential

tribal basin
#

Also it can upgrade Forging Potential and thats imo the hugest thing

hollow spindle
#

and what about the items I keep hearing about, gray items that if you equip them and challenge the nemesis it turns them into a unique item? I have not seen any new gray items but keep hearing about them

tribal basin
#

Dropped by the Nemesis -> need to kill a Harbinger for

median light
#

guys which sentinal build is the best for bossing ?

teal tinsel
#

full stun forge guard time

turbid dome
#

Stun Chance: Yes

daring lion
rose comet
#

Shield Bash Pally or FG? I have rolled a pally before but never a FG

#

So far the consensus is FG from the feedback I have received. New mastery to me so not sure why but still learning

teal tinsel
daring lion
river remnant
#

are the servers in the process of shitting themselves atm

teal tinsel
#

well then... ill be using this for a bit

spice folio
#

Hey everyone, is anyone using the new World Splitter with Erasing Strike?

hollow spindle
#

not sure, I still think based on sheet damage Apathy's Maw probably does more direct damage, but if you have this node on erasing strike (see 1st pic) then it will convert the bleed to Time Rot from World Splitter

teal tinsel
#

"hmm i kinda wana go ignite on my forge weapons but i dont have any good weapons for it" 2 mins later

#

so does ignite scale with fire dmg?

spice folio
turbid dome
teal tinsel
#

ah true frogot this game has that its so damn good

dark field
#

When something says "When You kill something" That means you and not your minions ?

turbid dome
#

Yea

spice folio
#

Anyways, if anyone is using an Erasing Strike with World Splitter, please link the build you made. I want ideas ;-;

leaden totem
#

im having a hardtime in normal monos with my vk. any tips?

vagrant bone
leaden totem
#

melee. tried rive and warpath

jagged cosmos
#

melee vk is pretty straight forward, stack vit and get a big weapon

uncut urchin
#

did u have trouble to survive or deal dmg?

leaden totem
#

im using a dreamthorn

vagrant bone
#

well with rive u can do 1h eagle axe and a shield for more surviabilty and still stack vita for flat void dmg lol

cursive compass
#

Rive needs gear now

vale ravine
cursive compass
#

Best thing you can do is go ES and use rive as mana filler, all with last laugh

#

Anyone doing divine bolt VK, man I miss that so much

turbid dome
#

Two handed axe for rive vk cause of the foe cleaver node

dry basalt
#

fg passive weapon master 5pts bonus, i dont get the 75% bleed chance with axe, i use 1h axe tho in letools its works, anyone tried?

turbid dome
#

If that’s your only source of bleed chance try hitting something, it might not show up on the sheet

stiff pendant
#

shield bash

rose comet
dry basalt
frozen escarp
#

Did pally get a big ol nerf for 1.1?

vagrant bone
#

healing hands and ward did

ebon patrol
#

has anyone tested minion FG at higher levels?

dark field
#

I'm lv80 and doing great

solid forge
ebon patrol
#

is warpath decent at keeping the minion cloud up?

solid forge
#

I have all 12 minions up all the time un,ess they get oneshot by something, but if that happens I can mana dump Forge Strike to restore them

ebon patrol
#

what gloves you using?

solid forge
#

Still the one from the early quest, Avarice I think it's called

ebon patrol
#

are you not using phantom grips?

potent remnant
dark field
#

FS/FW/MA

potent remnant
#

do u have planner maybe?

dark field
#

I don't. Just basically grabbing anything that scales my character and minion damage

potent remnant
#

i just stack a bit with dmg

solid forge
ebon patrol
#

crazy it's still that easy without them

jagged cosmos
#

manifest armor is pretty bonkers

solid forge
#

I've honestly been pleasantly surprised how smooth this build has been so far, but the real challenge will come at empowered monos

dark field
cursive compass
#

update?, man I was doing majasa

jagged cosmos
#

No, just put CDR boots on him and he spams whirlwind like every 1.5 seconds

cursive compass
#

you can pretty much use The Curse Manifest Armor build, he is like Star Platinum really. Stand user class

jagged cosmos
#

Clear used to be a huge issue on MA, it's not anymore. You aren't going to win any clear speed contests but you aren't going mega slow like you used to

solid forge
#

I have been going as fast as my friend on Falconer

#

I'd even say I was faster, he just played more

#

The first hour or so was hell though, but I think it was around lvl 45, became super fast

cursive compass
#

Literally a stand, all S stats

tribal basin
#

hold my horses , that thing still works ?

#

But i guess Holy Aura is non-mandatory so it doesnt really work on FG

jagged cosmos
#

yeah it still works

#

I prefer to have whirlwind when doing monos

dark field
#

Anyone try the Forgebreath on it?

jagged cosmos
#

you can get aoe / cdr and watch him just murder everything

icy jay
#

for those running bash double shields : isn't capping crit chance hard?

#

you have only one source of melee crit and that's your unique axe/shield on a legendary craft

uncut urchin
#

just dont cap it

true nova
#

Should I not even bother trying the healing hands/ward build?

icy jay
#

whaaat? a melee build with uncapped crit chance?

uncut urchin
#

atm im on 35% crit chance but with 300% multi so thats the equivalent of ~140% more dmg i think?

dark field
#

Smelters Wrath is so satifying

hexed sky
#

Does Manifest Armor gain mods from uniques? If so, is there a list somewhere on what stats apply?

true nova
#

F

fair hollow
#

bossing with Manifest armor in 1.1 is frustrating... lagon fight he doesnt use whirlwind attack on tentacles and abom fight he doesnt attack the 4 corner vessels at all...

hexed sky
hexed sky
fair hollow
obsidian slate
uncut urchin
#

i started doing it as soon as i had a sword

hexed sky
uncut urchin
zenith blaze
#

hows the bleed hammerdin?

solid forge
#

Still hammering as usual

zenith blaze
#

it's so hard to get it online

solid forge
#

I've always stayed away from hammering, just doesn't fit well with my melee urge

zenith blaze
#

no pieces are on merchants guild like I can't find a single one and being in merchants guild it will be hard to find them myself

solid forge
#

It's 24h into MG, there won't be much obviously

zenith blaze
#

how long can you use holy trail build for realistically?

solid forge
#

MG is the fastest to get builds running without a doubt compared to CoF

zenith blaze
#

it says to transition to hammerdin at 70 but i cant get no hammerdin gear, so i will have to continue playing holy trail as it will be 100% better than anything i can throw together right now

zenith blaze
solid forge
#

I don't know, I never played that

turbid dome
#

MG is faster once the market gets items on it, so like wait a day or two

solid forge
#

I'm pretty sure it can go to 300 corruption watching a video on it

fair hollow
#

im done with cycle till Manifest Armor gets bug fixes this is getting ridiculous.

tribal basin
#

huh ? what is wrong with MA ?

solid forge
#

He said it's not attacking some boss parts

tribal basin
#

Thats a general hitbox and melee problem not just MA

#

Leaping Zombies have the same problem , when they cant reach they just keep jumping

solid forge
#

I skipped lagon with sanctum, I'll have to test if it's bugged with my build as well when I get to it's mono

tribal basin
#

resummoning the MA in a closer spot usually helps with the wonky hit/collision-box thing

fair hollow
# tribal basin huh ? what is wrong with MA ?

abom fight is completely bricked it wont attack the vessels at all even with A command or resummoning, there was no MA problem with it before 1.1.

in the lagon fight he does not use its whirlwind attack on the lagon tentacles.

I doubt the other bosses are all fine.

And area increases are not working since before 1.0

for the fire breath sometimes bugs out that it will cast it just short of the enemies so it doesnt hit anything.

etc

weary grove
#

Someone just told me bleed is bugged for hammerdin. Can’t anyone confirm or tell me if it’s been patched?

random elk
#

I'm curious if Palarus's Sacred Light and multistrike's sword to smite will trigger additional target since it use mana so it's like casting it directly? Or it doesn't work that way?

tribal basin
dry basalt
#

Ok fg weapon master passive bleed bonus for axe didnt work, where to report?

tribal basin
#

ingame in bug report with some comparable screenshots

serene prism
#

Does directly casting Void Cleave interrupt Warpath channel if you use Aberroth's Command to make Void Cleave instant?

solid forge
#

It shouldn't, that's the whole point of the scepter

tribal basin
#

couldnt test it yet , dont have the Weapon for the interaction

serene prism
steel star
#

silly question. do you 'need' a shield to block, or if you have block chance from passives, will that work with weapons?

random elk
#

Is there a good build for Palarus's Sacred Light that isn't warpath?

uncut urchin
#

just use smite?

#

any attack skill you can attack 3+ times a second with works, or do selfcast

hallow lotus
uncut urchin
steel star
#

ok, good to know. i thought you needed a shield, so any passive block chance would allow say, 2 handed weapon some chance.

hallow lotus
turbid dome
#

Dreamthorn does

steel star
#

yeah it does, but im playing a forge guard, and having fun swinging a 2 handed weapon at things. but now that i know i can get 'some' block, might change sopme points around

turbid dome
#

You might have better luck going for some parry chance affixes rather than block, given it’s going to be hard getting an ok block chance and decent block effectiveness

dark field
#

Think we could start Shield Bash without the new unique?

upper fable
#

is minion forge guard bad? maxroll doesnt even have build for it

dark field
#

Im doing it nwo and i don't think so

uncut urchin
#

not bad they just didnt make one

upper fable
#

yea, me too feels smooth but im just in early mono

frail niche
#

Ill say that forge weapons seem pretty good, but minion AI is trash still so. I think boots with the teleport minions after traversal is REQUIRED

solid forge
uncut urchin
#

time to shred

frail niche
hushed pecan
#

Guys, I'm looking at the Maxroll build for Paladin Hammerding and the following Passive is maxed out, however from what I can tell this does not affect Hammer throw, can someone confirm it

waxen nymph
#

Its Global Attack Speed not just Melee AS

#

Since Hammer Throw is a Throwing Attack

#

It works

hushed pecan
#

Thanks, strange why the tool tip of the skill doesn't scalde the DMG, but when I add a ring with 6+ throwing attack spead the tool tip changes

waxen nymph
#

Because dps tooltips are lying to you

#

Dont trust them

hushed pecan
#

amazing thanks

waxen nymph
#

They are quite inaccurate

uncut urchin
#

some skills dont even have tooltips (seraph blade)

frail niche
#

I wonder if Shield Crafter counts as "casting" Ring of Shields

#

it does say "cast a shield from ring of shields"

waxen nymph
#

Imo no
But some people have claimed yes
I have not tested it myself

river remnant
#

fellow sentinel bros, I feel like all the nemises have disappeared since I started monos, am I just getting unlucky?

scenic gyro
#

yes

uncut urchin
#

i get them every couple monos

final junco
#

How is Shield Bash feeling for you guys so far? I only just now got the axe-shield so i finally see a bit of dmg

river remnant
#

cool, good to know

blazing river
#

do you guys know if orian seal (new sigil ring) is bugged? It stops casting when full sigils and starts 10s cooldown after you lose 1...

terse surge
#

why can't i buy stash tabs?

uncut urchin
#

so after a bunch of testing i can confirm that 2xpalarus doesnt increase the smite cap/second
its stuck at 3x/sec

scenic gyro
leaden totem
#

void cleave + erasing strike is a good lvling build? to perpass the normal monos

river remnant
#

yes, just keep upgrading your wepaon

blazing river
cursive compass
#

Anyone found the new 2h axe, I need to see how ES works with it

blazing river
uncut urchin
#

this looks kinda nice

cursive compass
#

That cold damage kills me but looks awesome

turbid dome
uncut urchin
#

wish that cold dmg was something else but ill take it

turbid dome
#

On one hand yeah, on the other hand it’s better than no cold damage

cosmic ivy
#

which mastery you guys playin

uncut urchin
#

paladin

hexed sky
#

FG

uncut urchin
#

got the cool smite sword so im using that
will maybe go seraph blade later

south lynx
#

anyone have an endgame erasing strike vk build? something to grind to

cosmic ivy
#

crit chance and mana with no cooldown, have the passive to gain 33% of mana back and with 100% crit chance you can just hold down the erasing strike

turbid dome
#

I’m just doing basic fella erasing strike

cursive compass
cosmic ivy
#

void knight passive
consume 3 stacks for 33% mana

turbid dome
#

Void well I think

cosmic ivy
#

the big AoE and echo just makes it so fun

cursive compass
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (72) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,696, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,150, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 64 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 8 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 105% / 73% / 83% / 64% / 66% / 88% / 62%
▸ EHP: 13,409 / 13,146 / 13,409 / 20,338 / 12,246 / 13,409 / 11,814

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,031
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,318)

Damage Types:

Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Abyssal Echoes (22)
Anomaly (22)
Void Cleave (26)
Volatile Reversal (22)
Erasing Strike (26)

rotund vector
#

Alright boys, Multistrike is kinda clunky for FG minions, do I really have to use sigils if I go warpath or is there something better?

uncut urchin
#

you dont need sigils for warpath

prisma hollow
#

from nemesis

uncut urchin
#

better than mine 😠

prisma hollow
dark field
uncut urchin
#

i wish you luck on teh legendary stats

cosmic ivy
final lantern
#

did guys have build planer for build with this palarus sword?

uncut urchin
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (11) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (67)

General:

▸ Health: 2,969, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 950, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 13 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 138% / 76% / 106% / 75% / 89% / 101% / 66%
▸ EHP: 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 18,301 / 8,794 / 8,794 / 8,067

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,999)

Damage Types:

Fire, Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

Warpath (24)
Smite (21)
Holy Aura (21)
Volatile Reversal (21)
Sigils Of Hope (21)

final lantern
#

thx ❤️

#

i got very good roll on it so thats why i wanna try this 😄

uncut urchin
#

nice

orchid juniper
#

so what's the latest word on forge guard? Better/more fun this cycle? Looking for a fun build to work towards, kinda want to try a meme smelter's wrath build but I need something more funtional to carry me through some monoliths/level+gear farming first

#

I've done the Forged Weapon warpath build before

potent remnant
#

eh

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always cool gear for build that you thinking to play at start ^^

empty moon
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hey so what is the best way to scale forged weapons

orchid juniper
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they inherit the greater part of their stats from your equipped wep, pretty important to have something decent there. Aside from that...iirc the sunforged set bonus gave additional max weapons, which was pretty important?

potent remnant
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another one ^^

chilly sage
#

this for void knight spin to win good or not ?

uncut urchin
hollow spindle
solid forge
quiet hearth
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how often does warpath summon forged weapons with moving forge maxed?

solid forge
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About every 2s

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I start the mono with 2-3 forge strike then I spin, keeps all 12 minions up

empty moon
#

1handed or 2 handed for a forged weapon minion build would you guys suggest

orchid juniper
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lmao when I did it I didn't have forge strike on the hotbar and just started every monolith with 20 seconds of spinning in a corner

solid forge
orchid juniper
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because I needed the critical mass of guys before engaging packs in empowered monoliths or they'd just die.

tall ingot
#

I go with bleed 1h+shield and it's pretty good

solid forge
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DW Warpath, you need the aberoth scepter to be able to use Void Cleave

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Or you can try the Javelin battle standard buffs maybe

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I should be playing instead of discussing here, shouldn't I ? 😓

uncut urchin
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probably lol

solid forge
#

It's not like I can force summon LP2+ uniques on MG though hahaha

uncut urchin
#

whats a good number for mana before someone switches to devotion?

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worth it at 40 spell damage?

orchid juniper
#

does smelter's wrath still convert stun chance into damage somehow? I seem to recall that being a thing like, 2-3 major patches ago but can't find anything on the skill web about it now

quiet hearth
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That's forge strike that does that

orchid juniper
#

honestly that's probably a better skill to build for anyway alright thanks

prisma hollow
pearl patio
#

whats the name of the spinning hammer skill? i cannot find it

prisma hollow
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hammer throw?

pearl patio
#

oh does it require some item or tree point to like make it constantly spin around you where you can like summon 4 or 5 of them at once?

prisma hollow
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It's a node on the skill tree

tall ingot
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spin around you? Iron Spiral

frail niche
#

Does strength not scale forged weapons at all? I know Forge Strike itself does, but do the minions inherit that or not?

tribal basin
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No , they scale of Attunement

ancient bridge
#

Is Earasing Strike a Physical skill?

tribal basin
#

I wished the FWs scale of Strenght

summer shell
#

how does implicit +melee damage convert for skills with two tags? (manifest armor and forged weapons)

river remnant
#

how many more times should I try lagon before I give up for the night lol 😐

frail niche
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adaptive based on the % flat on the skill afaik

charred stag
summer shell
frail niche
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No so e.g. Forged Weapons have a base damage of 2 flat, you give it the fire tag (which also gives 10 flat fire) it's now a split of 2 phys 10 fire, and adaptive damage would split it between them proportionatly

waxen nymph
frail niche
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Forged by Fire node, 10 flat fire and the fire tag for weapons

summer shell
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is any flat in the tree automatically assumed to affect base stats?

waxen nymph
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Oh thats new !

frail niche
#

It's like that for almost every skill in the game afaik, I went through this with primal wolves and cold damage last season

waxen nymph
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Didnt know they were getting the Fire Tag

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Its not Base Fire Dmg though

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Its still Added Melee Fire Dmg

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Meaning it goes through Added Dmg Effectiveness in your Dmg Calc

frail niche
#

forged weapons have an effectiveness of 100%

summer shell
#

where are you finding the added effectiveness and base of 2 phys?

frail niche
summer shell
#

i see

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so its +40 fire at 4/4

safe pelican
#

does ring of shields just not work? i get a buff icon but dont see anything actually summoning

astral lintel
#

How do you sustain mana on bleed hammers 😭

potent remnant
safe pelican
astral lintel
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Got that but add buffs and movement on bosses and im on negative

waxen nymph
safe pelican
cold rose
#

Does anyone knows if phys shred / armor shred / penetration does anything to bleed?

safe pelican
outer abyss
#

are there any downside on sealing an affix? Lets say I have both suffix at T5 health/health%. Does a fail seal make me lose on of them?

safe pelican
orchid juniper
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your odds to seal a high tier affix are going to be awful though

outer abyss
#

I see, thank you 🙂

safe pelican
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oh yea trying to seal a t5 is like under 5% or something extremely bad like that lol

outer abyss
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that low O_O i think im better off leaving it then

safe pelican
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yea normally unless your at the point where your absolutly trying to get the min max outta stuff sealing a t1/2 res is the better option

outer abyss
#

Thanks for the advice. Yea im not there yet. Just thought i could free up a slot for other affix

safe pelican
river remnant
outer abyss
lethal needle
#

Has there been any decent looking forge guard shield throw builds?

waxen nymph
cursive compass
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man new rive kinda meh, I think ES+rive is all the way now

lethal needle
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ill check it out thanks

waxen nymph
#

Shield Throw + Smite should be better with the idols changes

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An Ignite version would be nice on FG

obtuse perch
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I'm still tearing through the campaign.

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Although now I replaced lunge with volatile reversal, so now I have to get through the game without traversal.

waxen nymph
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Maybe keep unspecced lunge when you travel maps ,and slot in VR for Boss Fights

obtuse perch
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That's not even the worst idea.

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That said evade does an okay amount too. Like, despite no iframes, it does let you move through enemies.

tall ingot
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Evade skill needs a huge rework... if you are going to add a evasive panic button then add it properly with iframes and all.

pearl hare
#

gamers how is forge guard? im planning to have one be my second toon and i wanna know what people thinkin

ionic spade
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the evade skills is the bare minimum mobility required to do bosses

summer moss
ionic spade
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think of what skills have an iframe in the entire game

obtuse perch
#

Some traversal skills make you invincible or similar.

ionic spade
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and it has a cost

summer moss
obtuse perch
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Lunge needs 5 points to route to it iirc.

ionic spade
#

both build investment, 5 points + 1 spell slot basically

obtuse perch
#

I mean you don't need to explain to me why evade is fine without iframes.

ionic spade
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it exists so you can specialize in 5 spells and not instantly die to moving to slowly

tall ingot
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Only used evade one time to see it and never again

obtuse perch
#

I mean, your loss. I use it all the time.

ionic spade
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and technically if you are min maxing mashing evading is faster than running straight

obtuse perch
#

Like I said, it lets you move through enemies that is already huge NGL. Lots of AoEs end at the caster, so rolling to the opposite side of them does a lot.

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Also it has been sufficient to chase after those dang sirens who sometimes backflip to get out of melee.

#

Also if you really don't like using evade you should replace it.

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Uniques that replace Evade usually make you move faster.

turbid dome
#

I want a summon crab ring 🦀

solid forge
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MA working fine for me on lagon

potent remnant
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hoooly

tribal basin
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DId they nerfed the Momentum node in Void Cleave ? More Damage after Warpath ?

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wasnt it 200% with 4 points in it before

ionic spade
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i think it was 200% increased damage but i think it was changed a while ago?

tribal basin
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And now its 80% More damage , huh

lofty heron
#

how is minion forgeguard doing now in 1.1

cursive compass
#

Still god

dark field
lofty heron
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but like is one of those ways good now

turbid dome
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the new rings are a really big buff to it so I think so

lofty heron
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what do u think is the best gloves that synergize with that ring? also would julras obsession gloves double dip with the rings to power ur minions?

summer shell
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I've been using falconfists

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I think the flat to you and your minions double dips

rose yoke
#

Sooo question about Hammer Throw. Does Attack and Cast speed make it throw faster? Considering it doesnt have that Tag?

safe pelican
safe pelican
leaden totem
lofty heron
ionic spade
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i dont think it double dips, because the minions dont get your stats, it gets your weapons stats

summer shell
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I haven't gotten it yet lol but my plan is 2p set for manifest man 800% inc fire damage. Not sold on using the wep though

ionic spade
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ah you mean that shared stats apply twice so shared (summon and caster attack damage will apply 3x the listed value assuming max roll)

lofty heron
ionic spade
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in game it only says attunment

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i dont know what hover gives the other one? because i think the other one is just reading off forgestrikes stats

grim stump
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Anyone know any decent leveling guides i can use? Then in late game swap to Hammer/Smite

summer shell
ionic spade
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you mean attunement?

vagrant bone
ionic spade
lofty heron
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if it is the case that minion/weapon has been updated, then the scaling is
Per point of Strength:
4% increased Damage
Per point of Attunement:
4% increased Damage
+11 Minion Health

final lantern
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@uncut urchin this smite warpath its awesome leveling build with this new sword 😄 speedy gonzales 😄

solemn harbor
#

Nemesis giving me a +4 Shield Bash max roll when I don't use that skill and I'm SAF so it's useless to me. lol

grim stump
vagrant bone
frail niche
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silly question here; do forged weapons get bonuses from shields? I know they combine when dual wielding

quasi totem
#

For a minion FG, how do you recommend getting sustain? I've seen recommended melee leech but you do such low damage I don't understand how that would work?

steel star
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healing hands cast on attack is a big on ive seen

summer shell
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I've just been running healing hands + no cd forge strike + reversal mana recoup

turbid dome
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thanks star caller miniboss

heavy yarrow
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a day into the cycle, hows devotion smite HH pal looking compared to last cycle?

iron yoke
#

Quick question, new player here and just started. Been playing a VK and feel stuck. lvl 85 and I feel lost with gear. Can't find weapon or armor upgrades. Any experienced players able to help me sort out my issues?

uncut urchin
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do you have a guide?

turbid dome
iron yoke
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Kind of. I was having success with this build ( https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdKJMLpA ) until high 70s until mid 80s as I don't yet have Sigils of Hope. Not sure how much of a difference that makes or if I should respec and make that a priority.

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (66) / Forge Guard (1) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,180, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 111, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 51 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 5 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 59% / 61% / 32% / 64% / 32% / 32%
▸ EHP: 13,843 / 11,948 / 12,159 / 14,814 / 12,471 / 9,681 / 9,681

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,023
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,029)
▸ Block Chance: 9%, Mitigation: 25% (439)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

Void, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Warpath (23)
Sigils Of Hope (20)
Volatile Reversal (20)
Anomaly (20)
Rebuke (20)

uncut urchin
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sigil of hope is decent dps and sustain

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do you have the uniques from the link you sent?

rugged heath
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this might be an odd question, and probably a unique issue for me, but does anyone not use volatile reversal in Sentinel builds lol?

Ive just never been able to get a handle on using it or putting it into a rotation, idk why

turbid dome
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this build plan has a lot of not vitiality with the new mastery change

turbid dome
uncut urchin
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i hate reversal, it makes build feel clunky

iron yoke
iron yoke
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Yes, but not a great one

rugged heath
#

what are you using instead in like, void knight builds? I've mostly been trying to play out a rive/void cleave punchy build but I'm not sure what to replace reversal with

turbid dome
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

Rive (20)
Void Cleave (20)
Erasing Strike (22)
Rebuke (22)
Lunge (20)

Used unique items:
uncut urchin
turbid dome
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I love rebuke as a lagon one shot begone button

iron yoke
outer abyss
#

@iron yoke try have a read at this. similar build but a bit different than yours. he said can get up to 300+ corruption. Also have starter focus build information.

hollow spindle
#

What gear do you have so far thats part of the build?

uncut urchin
outer abyss
iron yoke
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Res capped was done, although my tinkering has brough Necrotic down to 65%. Everything else is good

hollow spindle
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heheheh

uncut urchin
iron yoke
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I'll give that a go. Just feel like my character has petered out a bit, not making progress or the progress is super slow. I'll see if this helps though. Thanks everyone

uncut urchin
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theres gearing steps and instructions on the website

cursive compass
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servers down?

outer abyss
uncut urchin
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its fine for me

turbid dome
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? game didn't dc me

summer moss
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does anyone here have an idea of the stats needed in general for a Devouring Orb VK in normal monos? like the last ones?

I have to swap from the levelling setup (pretty much Rive) into Devouring but scared of getting screwed

uncut urchin
drowsy tartan
#

does holy aura work with this

cursive compass
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bro it shows me connecting for like 5 mins

cursive compass
drowsy tartan
#

ty

eternal jackal
#

When leveling pally, using the Holy Trail is my main dps move, is there a faster way to see what increases its damage besides going into the skill tree and holding alt on it?

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the things that boost javalin toss itself I was confusing with boosting Holy Trail

clear ibex
#

Who's liking FG so far?

glad pike
#

As a VK, is it worth going 5 points into Paladin for Holy Aura?

wise rune
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you can't get holy aura as a void knight

glad pike
#

Aw right it is holy hands

austere coral
# clear ibex Who's liking FG so far?

I went non-minion bleed FG and I'd say that for me, it was a bait. I imagine I would have different opinion if I went crit or minion, but for dots Paladin is better

cursive compass
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How was the numlock trick?

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Nvm found it

granite forge
glad pike
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Advice on which skills to place in exchange of hammers and rive? I thought on Rebuke but I don't know about the other one. I'm torn between one of the remaining VK skills and Javelin

modern garden
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I would stick with like 2 damage skills max

wise rune
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anomaly is good

glad pike
wise rune
#

lots of people also like to spec 15 points into paladin to get sigils of hope and use that as a buff for their 5th skill

uncut urchin
#

i forgot, do you need the same item type to make legendary?
like 1h sword for 1h sword unique

wise rune
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you do

azure rune
#

tbh dps feels odd low
Shield bash

dark field
twilit valley
#

My dps with palarus is crazy at lvl 75

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I’ll grind when I’m back home to finish all 3 lvl 90 monos

wise rune
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palarus is so good

twilit valley
#

Loving the patch soo far .. have it all planned out ..

midnight pine
#

my void knight is struggling with mana issues.. any suggestions?

wise rune
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if you're running erasing strike then get the void well passive

hollow spindle
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I'm trying to figure out why some current erasing strike builds are stacking mana, I remember reading something in patch notes but now I forgot...derp

midnight pine
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they can get extra echos with more mana

dark field
#

World Splitter

wise rune
hollow spindle
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Ah right but only really works if you are using world splitter and not apathy's maw or other erasing strike variant

midnight pine
#

should i just drop void cleave? and use erasing strike as my general heavy hitter. and use something cheaper/free over cleave

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cleave also means no shield

wise rune
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i don't think i've ever seen someone play erasing strike with a shield

hollow spindle
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Aberroth's Command will allow you to use Void cleave without a 2h

midnight pine
#

shield rush is to fun tho

hollow spindle
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1h, so it lets you use a shield or dual wield with void cleave

wise rune
#

void cleave erasing strike is generally cheaper than pure erasing strike anyway

smoky forge
#

smelters wrath furnance visual is still bugged, is there any way to make it visible, liek graphic settings etc?

wise rune
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you just wanna have a decent sized mana pool with erasing strike and make sure you have this node and you're always critting with ES

prisma hollow
wise rune
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combine that node with this one from the void knight passive tree and you'll never have mana issues again as long as your max mana is high enough

void nimbus
#

Are any of the old healing hands builds any good?

wise rune
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they won't be nearly as tanky but should still be viable and they can also benefit from palarus

austere frost
#

No really as a main skill pretty dead with the ward nerf

wise rune
#

certain versions of it are probably dead but anything that had it cast on melee hit or smite cast should still be solid

dark field
#

Nemesis needs to appear more often

midnight pine
#

healing hands has the "spell" scaling tag,.,. spell what? damage?

austere frost
#

I do melee and void smite and though it works is bad , gameplay doesn't feel as good anymore

velvet swallow
#

Hello everyone! Are HH + Rive Paladins still good? 🙂

austere frost
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500 corr dropped and still struggles at it

haughty canopy
midnight pine
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yeah im done with erasing strike for now maybe ill go back later if i can find gear to suppoirt it

austere frost
#

You need a couple t7 mana modifiers for that build before feels amazing

midnight pine
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still curious about healing hands spell scaling tag.. if i have increased spell DAMAGE.. that scales healing hands healing power?

wise rune
midnight pine
#

the more i look the sentinals defensive options are kinda wack lol for the class that should be the most defensive

dawn garden
#

Does renewed hope potentially bring back a sigils of hope when they expire from time? (not just the faith node)

wise rune
austere frost
#

We don't have dr options like you either get titan hearth for that 15 de nd HP or some red rings ,as far as passives 10 de when close is bad if I am a caster that's useless for me or throwing build

velvet swallow
#

Can someone please tell me if HH/Rive Paladins still are good or not? I'm about to choose Mastery and I don't wanna mess it up, which brings me to another question; Are Forge Guard still bad or have they buffed it?

uncut urchin
#

worst case scenario its like 30mins to get a new character to mastery

austere frost
#

Hh damage was nerfed by a third or more ,rive is still good though

velvet swallow
#

Tbh it deserved a nerf because it was stupid strong. But I guess Paladins are stronger than Forge Guards then atleast?

austere frost
#

I am basically gonna try void knight rive

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Tbh hh is stupid sure but the ward nerf gutted many builds for sentinel like don't need to gut the skill that hard 3k ward most time struggles vs 500 corr and so on

velvet swallow
#

Oof 😦

austere frost
#

We should have more Dr in passives like rogue has glancing blow 100 percent

devout trail
#

hi everyone, any good tip to get gold asap in game?

austere frost
#

I dropped from 1200 corr to 500 still looking the tankier best build right now even good build like autobomber feels bad vs content now

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Anyway good update,just gotta find the sweet spot ,favor xp nerf also not amazing for cof try hard like myself 🥹

velvet swallow
#

I see

bright sluice
#

rive hh still feels so goooood lol

bright sluice
austere frost
#

@bright sluice Ward was important for every build even rive cause it voost your EHP by a large margin

bright sluice
austere frost
#

Problem for me is that 3k ward is shit,I have 60 endurance

bright sluice
#

it was important to every build cause it was busted, even without ward rive hh is still powerful

high tree
#

anyone here trying to work on a mana stacking void knight for erasing strike and world splitter

austere frost
#

Prob with endurance is that is tied to threshold endurance too

dark field
wise rune
#

definitely more of a void knight thing

velvet swallow
#

While HH/Rive Paladins was fun I wanna try something new at the same time so yeah

austere frost
#

As melee vk is flat out better

uncut urchin
#

im upgrading it, its time to get a good legendary

wise rune
#

i do remember seeing a judgement build that could one shot bosses on 1.0 idk how that one is doing now

austere frost
#

Is ok maybe now that only get 1 instead of 3 damage right?

wise rune
#

its a bit old but should still work perfectly fine now

quiet hearth
#

the math should still work out the same because of the more dmg per mana node FG has built in now

quasi island
#

is void knight abyssal echoes spell bugged? it doesnt seem to do any damage either

quiet hearth
#

not to my knowledge, no bugs

blazing plank
sly briar
#

Can you switch your mastery, can I go from Paladin to Forge Guard at some point?

uncut urchin
#

no

dawn garden
#

ty

quiet hearth
#

Yeah it's a bit dated honestly, you can change pretty much everything else.

sly briar
#

Ah dang, ty

uncut urchin
#

be jealous

quiet hearth
#

👀

leaden totem
#

so, whats the feedback of the world splitter?

#

better than beacon?

quiet hearth
#

So far the only thing Ive seen it be the best at is judgement mana stacking

glad pike
#

Empowered Nemesis be like

quiet hearth
#

yeah they do

#

they have GOT to tweak the wengari avalanche shaman

cobalt socket
#

Anyone build judgment paladin here ?

quiet hearth
#

not this cycle but not too much changed

marsh warren
#

I'm so bad at building a character. I want to try and build something for FG weapon summons and their animate armor ability too. I just get overwhelmed when I start looking at skills and than items to compliment them

quiet hearth
#

Then go grab a guild, minions are pretty easy. put minion damage on your gear and you're pretty much good to go

cedar comet
#

Forge Guard light is dimming for me.

cosmic bloom
#

hi whats wrong with spear cause everything seems to have nice interections and trigger other spells but spear is like meh

quiet hearth
#

spear?

ionic spade
#

well they nerfed the slam but buffed the damage over time

cosmic bloom
# quiet hearth spear?

@quiet hearth yes there is javelin and can intereact with smite but gets heavy cooldown and with the charge skills that does nothing on dps wise and put you in mele range i think is a good concept like a lancer but it needs some interactions

quiet hearth
#

There is more than one spear ability, so I didnt know what you were referring to. But with one duration point it's CD is literally the entire length of the ability, and it goes higher

cobalt socket
#

is it good ?