🔱┃sentinel

[obtuse perch]

It has the spell tag.

So it's affected by flat +spell damage.

[tribal basin]

means it scales with Spell damage , fire damage , elemental damage and so on

unless stated otherwise

[haughty canopy]

elemental is only 1/3 though

[obtuse perch]

Yeah, I'm just saying. That particular type of DoT can have its base damage boosted with +flat.

[haughty canopy]

1/3 fire, 1/3 lightning, 1/3 cold

[unique vortex]

crit multi gets added together and treated as a single more

[obtuse perch]

%elemental damage applies in equal amount to any elemental damage.

So if you have +30% increased elemental damage that's +30% to fire damage, as well as +30% to the other two.

This is not cd recovery speed, right? So two points in this gives forgebreath no cooldown?

[tribal basin]

its double dipping

[lilac cave]

Interesting. Thanks!

[obtuse perch]

That being said, Forgebreath is a spell.

So that would mean using a sceptre.

[tribal basin]

pretty sure thats still only half time

[obtuse perch]

It says cooldown -100% though.

[tribal basin]

Other skills say : No Cooldown if it doesnt have cooldown anymore

[obtuse perch]

Well yes but one point is -50%

[waxen nymph]

It has no Cd but has a very long cast time

You need a lot of Cast Speed if you want your MA to use it a lot

[tribal basin]

wish you could bonk Bob so he just starts vomiting the fire

[obtuse perch]

I decided to unspec it.

Melee +200% ignite chance is fine, I'll just give it whirlwind.

+50% more fire damage as well.

It'll be fine.

[hardy forum]

Yeah. In theory bleed is the way before the shield axe

[faint slate]

is this bugged

with or without it i have the same exact length

testing on dummies

[winter copper]

you have to be a grower not a shower for it to work

[faint slate]

tested max distance without it, added 3 points, nothing changed
tested again max distance with 3 added points, removed the points, i still hit from that max distance

[winged pulsar]

It’s longer area. Not maxed distance is what I would guess

[slow ice]

Any builds looking at the new unique chance to cast smite on melee hit and doing a warpath build with it?

[faint slate]

I mean i dont get it. If I start in point X i would expect to hit 30% farther away

with the skill

no?

[winged pulsar]

Your attack range would probably stay the same. But the shield bash affect would be longer

[faint slate]

what affect

its a skill that deals damage in a line, it should just make the line longer by 30%

what am i missing

[hardy forum]

The hit would spread longer in my opinion

But you still need to hit.

[faint slate]

but there is a separate node for width

super confusing

[hardy forum]

I mean longer sorry

You could hit another ennemy behind your main target with this node, that's how I understand it. But that doesn't mean your initial hit will touch the target behind

[faint slate]

i see

[winged pulsar]

But what if that node gave you infinite range

Screen clear shield bash sounds nice

[winter copper]

most likely its just bugged

or 10%-30% is so low that u dont notice

[potent remnant]

guys, is this build still viable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SvY913TOE

smite vk by kripp

[obtuse rock]

does anyone know if counts as "casting" ring of shields for the purpose of

and if it also would work with

[turbid dome]

I’d believe so because defensive shields doesn’t say when you directly cast it

Just cast

[winged pulsar]

Yes they all work together.

[obtuse rock]

cool, that does make shield bash mega skill point hungry though huh

[potent remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SvY913TOE

is this build still viable?

vk void smite

[obtuse rock]

i guess the new + 2 all skills amulet + the +1 phys belt might be needed for it. (or atleast wanted)

[turbid dome]

Vk loves vitality even more now

So I think vk void smite would still work

[kindred wigeon]

Any idea how does FG look like with the changes? Compared to the rest of sentinel specs.

[faint slate]

depends if you take protective impact or not

5 points for 500 block effectiveness is pretty whatever no

you should be at 100 block chance without this

imo

[obtuse rock]

eh, i'm not sure how easy it is to cap block

without it

[unborn cypress]

What's the name of that amulet?

[turbid dome]

New shield axe + bastion of honor = ez cap block

[obtuse rock]

and that 500 block effectiveness is also like 35 flat damage after modifiers

[turbid dome]

Just get the lucky drop 👍

[obtuse rock]

I'm not planning on using bastion 😛

[turbid dome]

Understandable

[tribal basin]

Why do i now want a big Frying Pan as a shield ... AND as a Weapon

[obtuse rock]

@unborn cypress

[turbid dome]

Because frying pans are great at cooking bacon

Yay gamba amulet 2.0

[tribal basin]

you are right , im just hungry 🙂

[fossil pumice]

any guide for fast leveling on forge guard?

[faint slate]

bonk stuff hard

[potent remnant]

ok so finally guys

ive decided xD

void smite or shield bash fg? xD

[sly condor]

Returning player, do we think the adjustments to Forge Guard make them less meme tier

[kindred wigeon]

That's what I'm curious about too

[sly condor]

Doesn't have any of the FG minion builds listed.

[charred stag]

They have various tier lists, better to look at the ones that focus on your end game goals.

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/tierlists

[potent remnant]

ah I should have known that as per ur request if FG is good

[sly condor]

That seems weirdly hostile

[sly condor]

As mentioned it seems lacking a manifest armor / forged weapons build. Seen a few floating around (notably actionrpg), so I figured it would be included here but it wasn't.

[abstract edge]

i also dont see scorp beastmaster, which wasnt nerfed and was hitting 1k corr in 1.0. tldr: tier lists arent perfect, but the S tier highlights usually are good

[fair hollow]

their tierlists consists of only their builds so dont take it as a overal tierlist but just of the builds they play/maintain

[abstract edge]

makes sense

[turbid dome]

Were the max roll builds tested at a consistent corruption? (Or is that list predictions)

[orchid flint]

whats gonna be the best void knight build this season

[turbid dome]

I’m doing rive/void cleave/erasing strike with a lot of vitality

[abstract edge]

darkhumility takes his project diablo 2 tierlist to this (and higher) level of science. its beautiful.

[fair hollow]

they did have acces to CT so there has been some testing but propably not all at highest corruption

[orchid flint]

classic

[turbid dome]

It’s even better now tho

[turbid dome]

That’s good to know

[turbid dome]

Darn I only have d2 on my switch

[orchid flint]

you have a planner?

[fair hollow]

here is a FG whirlwind Manifest Armor cycle starter https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9xgDY5A

[winter copper]

for a good reason tbh, they suck asssssss

[turbid dome]

Take my funny ms paint while I grab the link to my planner

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdK2g9yA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[tribal basin]

not even 100 vit :feelsweirdMan:

[abstract edge]

ms paint builds = best part of a new arpg season kekw

[turbid dome]

no exalted items + boots don't have vit if their not legendary

[tribal basin]

Ahh .. all Rares and only Skill tree ,

[brittle grove]

frick it, i have decided with 90 mins to go, imma try werebear for the first time. enjoy the league start everyone and happy looting ❤️

[turbid dome]

Gl dude

You gonna try the endurance threshold -> ward decay druid?

[brittle grove]

nah imma try the tornado bear, that looks hella fun

[turbid dome]

True

[spark solar]

do I go for bleed hammerdin or nova hammerdin

I liked the fast pace of nova hammerdin but downside was the boss single target kinda

[tribal basin]

The thing is , imo having the behavior of the Hammers unchanged is better for Single Target

so neither Nova nor Cyclone

[turbid dome]

Single target is going to be more important this cycle, assuming you want to fight all the new bosses

[brisk citrus]

Hi, sorry if it's wrong channel, I would like to know if smite x warpath build would be cool this cycle ? Like can it clear all content ?

[cursive compass]

that void knight looking good

[wide folio]

hi guys, i want to start with bleed hammer, anyone could recommend me some planner?

[icy jay]

wait you can dual shield now? i've just noticed the unique lol

[turbid dome]

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[fair hollow]

technically its a axe

[waxen nymph]

Yes, Paladin Holy Burst Smite

[whole oak]

Have there been any good Forge guard builds created yet?

[icy jay]

it identify itself as an axe?

[turbid dome]

It’s an axe so sentinels can’t duel wield it

[brisk citrus]

Is there any build for this please ?

[tribal basin]

Its an Axe with shield Implicits

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Check Dreadful on yt

[turbid dome]

^

[cursive compass]

I am really hoping the HH fixes didnt kill it

[wide folio]

Any build for bleed hammer pls 😦

[cursive compass]

I just expect 3k ward

something

[turbid dome]

I mean if your sub 4K ward, you should have more ward than before

[astral lintel]

Was pally (outside of unethical ward stackers) overall buffed by buffs to FG passives?

[turbid dome]

If your greater than 4K ward, then your gonna notice a lot less ward

[cursive compass]

with enough attack speed, it will be fine

but I am tempted with the big HP pool vitality

[waxen nymph]

Check Maxroll

[tribal basin]

No 😎

[cursive compass]

ETERNAL FORM

[turbid dome]

I don’t remember the HH changes off the top of my head, but if your just spamming rive, the new time and faith will keep you healthy

[turbid dome]

ETERNAL FORM

[wide folio]

oh i see, thank you. Do you think this build is safe, fast clear and good DMG single target sir

[turbid dome]

Why I love getting +10 hp, 1%necro and poison res, and .33% more void damage per vitality

[waxen nymph]

Even makes coffee for you

[tribal basin]

Bob the Starbucks employee , the coffee is very Hot.

[cursive compass]

Rive needs that void conversion

[turbid dome]

Who needs that when you can get twice the void dmg from your 2 hander

[cursive compass]

ah right, the 2h node

VOID

[turbid dome]

And you can get an apathy’s maw with basically 2 T7 melee void dmg affixes on it

And have 80% echo chance

[tribal basin]

Also as long as you have enough Melee Void damage on the weapon it doesnt matter , physical attacks usually inherit the element of the wepaon they are used with

[turbid dome]

So you basically get 4 T7 melee void damage affixes

[cursive compass]

have you seen the new chest that gives you DR

[turbid dome]

Yeah

[cursive compass]

is it a must?

20% hp

[turbid dome]

Maybe once I get a good amount of exalted resistance affixes

[cursive compass]

and leech

become unstoppable

giant dad

[turbid dome]

Power up the bass cannon

[frosty relic]

finally rolling a void knight today. hoping its fun lol. been only playing bladedancer

[turbid dome]

VK is very fun

Which build you planning?

[frosty relic]

unsure yet was gonna take the next hour and look into some builds see what seems the most fun to me

[turbid dome]

You want one that’s relatively simple and works without great gear?

[frosty relic]

ill take all suggestions!

[turbid dome]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdK2g9yA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[valid apex]

I think I'll finally be trying the bonk knight

[turbid dome]

The game plan is void cleave to time rot something with 12 stacks and get 100% crit on next erasing strike-> erasing strike so it dies -> rive if needed

[ebon heath]

In your opinion how much mana is needed for erasing strike spam ?

[turbid dome]

Are you removing its cooldown?

If your removing its cooldown you need enough mana to get 3 void essence charges so you can consume them for mana when you run out of mana. Then have that mana be enough to get 3 more void essence charges so you can keep bonking

If your doing something like the build I just linked, you rive for mana when erasing strike is on cooldown

[ebon heath]

yeah ^^,

[solid forge]

You can get away with less mana if you do 1-2 vengeance hits while the echoes are hitting.

[turbid dome]

True

Getting the void essences on crit should be easy with the new axe

Since your already stacking mana for said axe

[ebon heath]

So 500 Mana is enough if i want to spam (with no CD in erasing) ? with some vengeance hit

[solid forge]

You can also do mana dumps, followed by a few vengeance hits if you don't want mana on gear

[turbid dome]

I’m not sure about the direct amount of mana, I guess it depends on how many guaranteed echos you want

[solid forge]

The important thing is to get the 12 rots up and then dump all your mana into that time window

[ebon heath]

i just want to be "comfy", enough mana to spam but avoid putting too much on the equipment^^

[turbid dome]

said guaranteed echos also don’t add to the new axes effects, as it’s consumed mana not mana cost

[solid forge]

The goal is to kill the boss before going oom or with one round of reloading

How you manage that is entirely up to you

[ebon heath]

with this info, i think it's better to run erasing with CD like this maybe with void cleave

I'm lost, I don't know what to do anymore xD

[solid forge]

Just play and test both

[lilac cave]

Shield bash with HH or Multi-HH-Forge Strike to start the season. I ran the latter last season too and enjoyed it. What say you?

[solid forge]

It's not just about the damage, it's how you like using the skill. Some people prefer non-stop ES spam, some like generating mana with rive/multi/vengeance and then dump the mana and some others like to prepare for one big boom every few seconds after a void cleave

[quiet hearth]

I wouldnt start SB until you have the new axe

[crisp ice]

Screw that shields all the way

[lilac cave]

Was my thinking as well, where as Forge Strike one requires no specific items to function and mana is never an issue

[quiet hearth]

That new node giving 20% pen is a HUGE thing early game

[turbid dome]

I’d still go for the second charge for the double bonk

But that’s imo

[quiet hearth]

the new min skill lvl at 18 is 4 yeah?

[past pine]

is that healing hand divine bolt build dead 1.1?

[quiet hearth]

no, 4 at 17 even better

[lilac cave]

Yeah 17

[bleak blaze]

I won't lie I'm excited to see how the forge guard changes feel

[lilac cave]

And you are right on fire pen, I really enjoyed the build last season, can only be better in 1.1

[quiet hearth]

so min skill lvl is 6 at 32, so pretty much by the time you're able to get the node, you can switch over to Forge strike and have all those juicy bonuses

I genuinely think that FS, using the detonating ground will be hilariously good bossing

[turbid dome]

I read that as at lvl 6 you have a min of 32 skill points and got confused

[lilac cave]

Counting on it!

[quiet hearth]

Like,you get so much pen and crit now

[cursive compass]

forge BONK

[whole oak]

What are some good sentinel builds at this moment for 1.1 ?

[quiet hearth]

now if only the anvil node boosted fire and not phys

[turbid dome]

Vitality stacking vk

[whole oak]

Any guide or something for it?

[blissful cipher]

is the hammer bleed build going to be good ?

[lilac cave]

Yeah, I like to go for spear forge for the multi, but then the aoe becomes a bit embarrassing. Might not need it with so much additional crit mult

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, Vit stacking Smite with that new heal missing health and mana gain on direct use is look TASTY

[turbid dome]

#🔱┃sentinel message

This is what I planned out

[quiet hearth]

if you grab the detonating ground nodes you get boosted AOE

[turbid dome]

You do a void cleave and then you remove whatever is in front of you with erasing strike

[quiet hearth]

you mean...you erase it

🪤

[lilac cave]

Is it not affected by the other area modifiers from the tree? Or is it just larger base than the strike itself?

[turbid dome]

Wait I’m erasing people from reality

[quiet hearth]

The aoe nodes leading up to it boost forge strikes base AOE, so it makes up for the spear

[terse surge]

@winter copper you have a planner for FG shield Bash?

[quiet hearth]

Another thing in forge strike is that node that boosts dot dmg by your stun chance

[polar matrix]

hammer smite pala still playable as leaguestarter?

[quiet hearth]

yo wait....

[polar matrix]

havent played since beta XD

[quiet hearth]

you grab the sword node and go bleed

fml dude, with 100 Str that gives you 200% penetration with bleed

no 300

and that is with just passives and the skill

..why does paladin get bleed support, that needs to be moved to FG I thnk

[turbid dome]

Flagellation/the weird amount of bleeding weapons clerics get in fantasy settings?

I guess?

[icy jay]

If i go legacy i won't get harbinger stuff?

[polar gull]

Yes, you will

[quiet hearth]

You will, the only thing that is time gated is the new uber boss

and after a week you will get it, unless someone kills it sooner (which they will)

[turbid dome]

*when someone kills it, it gets to legacy the next business day

[quiet hearth]

does normal phys pen boost bleed?

[unique vortex]

bleed is phys damage

[turbid dome]

I’d think so

[cursive compass]

still recommended to go into new league

since some people will play legacy but most will be on new league

and new drops will be frequent in new league

[manic mica]

I'm really thinking of playing a Void knight or Paladin.. I'm usually playing some sort of a caster.. Thoughts on these?

[unique vortex]

i mean maybe

none of us have actually played it

[turbid dome]

You can play both as a caster

[blissful cipher]

prob ok

[lethal needle]

Man, it's hard to look at a class with zero info on it. Tried to put together a forge guard build with like, shield bash and forge weapon but it was a mess

[unique vortex]

i do not think shield bash and forged weapons necessarily go together

[fast echo]

Don't know much about sent. Should I go warpath or hammers?

[unique vortex]

since shield bash does not produce forged weapons and they mostly do not scale in the same way

[turbid dome]

Plus don’t you want molten infusion from fire void cleave to buff said forged weapons

[lethal needle]

I have honestly no idea I just saw the new uniques for the Minion buffing ring and the dual shield setup

[quiet hearth]

So, so far, with just a single t6 melee stun chance, passives and the forge strike skill. I sit at 371% bleed pen, 70% phys pen, and 596% stun to ailment dmg

[unique vortex]

right i think you want to pick one or the other

[quiet hearth]

oh and 140% chance to bleed

[turbid dome]

That’s bloody pen nib levels of pen wtf

[unique vortex]

i would not be surprised if the new minion ring is good since last epoch has historically had several good minion builds and i would also not be surprised if shield bash is at least usable after it gets a dedicated unique and substantial buffs in tree

[quiet hearth]

if you have the spear node that is 100 multi, and Im assuming 100 str

[unique vortex]

but attempting to scale both minion damage and shield bash damage is just going to result in you running out of space on your gear and in your passive trees

[turbid dome]

Pen!

[quiet hearth]

Oh and here's the kicker, you can get the bleed pen minus the stun chance to dot dmg by lvl 32

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

this...this might be what I play boys

lvl 32 casually rocking like 200% phys pen with bleed

[turbid dome]

The emperor’s remains is gonna feel the hurt

Or is that the wrong area for lvl 32

[quiet hearth]

Oh, and 40% bleed duration, forgot that one

I wonder if it would be better to go duration or more pen

[turbid dome]

not the slow mode

[cerulean sorrel]

what is the predicted best warpath build?

[quiet hearth]

So you could get 170% more bleed with a t7 phys pen on your body armor and helm, 70% chance to bleed with 2 idols, and up to 40% bleed duration on large idols

[turbid dome]

I might cook up a vitality VK smite + warpath build

[quiet hearth]

lol, phys dmg and increased bleed ur on helm too

[clear ledge]

What's better for warpath, paladin or VK?

[cerulean sorrel]

id assume VK

[turbid dome]

Given that the flat void dmg with warpath actually gets doubled with a two hander now

[clear ledge]

I have one quirky condition, I want enemies to die near me for loot haha, going back cuz they died from void knight echos is so hassle

[quiet hearth]

Oh yeah, the super bleed boots too

[turbid dome]

Salt the wounds gloves? Or do those not help

[quiet hearth]

salt the wounds just converts your crit multi, which we are already doing, Valdyrs chalice tho, 2% of that bleed as leech

[fossil pumice]

is the maxroll forge guard leveling good or would a hammer throw starter be better?

[lethal needle]

Probably, it might take me a bit to figure out which way to go haha. I think the dual wield shields sounds awesome so I'll probably start with bash and see how it feels. At least it's the same tree so I don't need to level two characters

[turbid dome]

@Draven ah

@fossil pumice max roll builds (as long as it’s for the right patch) are always a good starting point imo, tho experimenting and trying your own ideas is always fun when you have a safety strat to fall back too

[quiet hearth]

...does the mace passive in sentinel boost ALL damage when wielding a mace?

[turbid dome]

Reading it seems to say so

[quiet hearth]

so ad 120% increased damage to these nutty bleeds

[glass bolt]

are there any sentinel builds that can push 1000 corruption+ ?

[unique vortex]

yes

every class has builds that can do 1000 corruption

[fossil pumice]

good to know, I see that all other sentinel have better leveling builds than FG and i'm trying to see if there is something else besides maxroll for leveling

[quiet hearth]

oh yeah, lethal strikes gives +1% phys and fire pen per 5 Str, so another 20 pen

[unique vortex]

forge guard has been extremely neglected in the past. there are no leveling builds for it because no one serious could be convinced to play one. also i personally find maxroll builds to pretty variable in quality with many of them making baffling choices

[fossil pumice]

so you think that FG will still be meh ?

[quiet hearth]

nah, FG eating good this patch

[sage flint]

will fg be good for hc? thinking of playing sentinel for once as its the only class ive yet to play.

[hushed dove]

FG is definitely still meh

[wooden portal]

Has anyone checked out the Smite shield throw build yet? Looks neat, but i'm wondering how it would compare to hammer throw

[unique vortex]

i am trying to withhold judgement until i get to play with it but there is a pretty real chance that even with the buffs forge guard is still not a top mastery yeah

[quiet hearth]

I would disagree honestly, it was 5/10 before the changes, it's at least a 7 now, even if it is behind the other two still

[hushed dove]

What changes brought it up to a 7 for you exactly?

[tacit zealot]

im gonna try the new judgement when i get past leveling it already did ok damage before

[quiet hearth]

mostly the stupid amount of inbuilt pen and scaling crit multi

I just realized if I give up some of the stun to DOT dmg, I can use the new pary 2h axe

though I do give up that 120% dmg from the mace node though

[hallow socket]

smite got giga nerfed

[winged pulsar]

I just wanted to wish everyone here playing sentinel good luck in 1.1. We may be the weakest class, but we have the strongest heart.

[clear ledge]

Why are we the weakest?

[urban phoenix]

I'm making a meme build on the weakest class?

[twin vortex]

anything in the Warpath realm that should be tried out/new? i saw some mace stuff

[turbid dome]

Void Knight + cycle with a lot of new void stuff + 10 hp per vitality

[quiet hearth]

Oh no...1lp on the new axe gets you access to crit multi for another 100% pen with bleed

[unique vortex]

because the overall power level of the game has increased massively between the first content and now and sentinel has received only minor tune ups in between release and current patch while other classes have gotten substantially more updates bringing them more in line with the current (and quite high) power level of the game

[clear ledge]

Well that's sad

[quiet hearth]

uh...I disagree, I literally anviled my way on a fg through empowered monos last cycle. and if THAT can make it, anything can

[turbid dome]

Counter point: sentinel is a morally upstanding dude and is fun to play

[urban phoenix]

I'm going to make a frostbite forged weapon build, wish me luck.,

[grand igloo]

Well, the manifest armor whirlwind strike went from 60% to 300%. Thats a buff.

[turbid dome]

Good luck

[winged pulsar]

Yall ever think about how all the bad guys are void and paladins have holy damage. Paladins = op?

[quiet hearth]

yeah, if they also fixed the WW bug manifest armor is gonna slap

[urban phoenix]

What do you guys use for a movement skill?

[astral lintel]

Was bleed node at FG start always 75 percent?

[unique vortex]

every subclass is capable of making it to empowered monos and doing a moderate amount of corruption. this does not change the very tangible gap in power level between the best subclasses/skills/builds and everything else.

can forge guard do a couple hundred corruption? yes of course it can; everything can

can forge guard do as much corruption as blade dancer or runemaster at similar levels of gear investment? historically the answer has been no, forge guard isn't even close

[turbid dome]

Lunge, entirely for the invulnerable while using it node

[grand igloo]

I had one set up last cycle and it got me past most of the base stuff. I'm gona see how much better it is when servers are up. It was hitting 200k before.

[elfin onyx]

Any thoughts on Shield Bash Forge Guard? I'm thinking of running it...

[urban phoenix]

Needs a target though, right?

[teal tinsel]

man i love that i can go forge guard have 0 clue wtf im doing the n just reset all my skills to do a propper build lmao

[turbid dome]

Not with the paranoia hat, but also when fighting Lagon (main thing that made me like it) you can just lunge to the tentacles

[quiet hearth]

Base sentinel could do a few hundred corruption right now, and FG would just go higher. Not everything has to be equal, that isn't practical thinking. The power floor is in a really good place right now. FG doesn't need to be the strongest to be good.

[clear ledge]

Is there a point to doing cycle if all I'm gonna do is circle of fortune

[urban phoenix]

Ahh, ok. Was going to try the javelin tp, but that sounds more consistent probably.

[grand igloo]

Probably going to try Javalin or Judgement this run.

[turbid dome]

Plus you can get a lot of healing on using lunge

[short viper]

there's no real top level power disparity, there's just a big difference in the number of viable builds. some of the top arena performers are forge guards

[unique vortex]

good a relative term. the "good" things are the ones which perform better than the average. i cannot say where forge guard will fall in 1.1 because there have been substantial changes but i can say that forge guard has been well below the average for many many patches leading up to this one

[cerulean sorrel]

Def want to do warpath, just looking for a strong build. Did rive/hh last season

[winged pulsar]

there is huge disparity, wdym

[grand igloo]

rive/hh was great

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah i thought it was strong af until i leveled a dive bomb and flattened higher corruption in half the time lol

[quiet hearth]

FG has been the average, 5/10, these changes have boosted them and I think have really increased the power level. But I'm not gonna go back and forth on it. you dont like it, that's fine, not here to yuck anyones yum

[short viper]

the actual top level builds between sent masteries weren't that different in power, forge guard was just obscure and not really worth investing into

[unique vortex]

anyway this is going nowhere and is a pain to discuss with slow mode active so i'm gonna move on. i think the new forge guard stuff looks cool and i will try it out then decide how i feel. hopefully everyone else who tries it out has fun too

[winged pulsar]

im the rank 1 arena paladin, vk, and fg. And there was a massive disparity.

[grand igloo]

Did the iron reflexes passive ever get fixed?

[winged pulsar]

good luck on launch

[turbid dome]

You too Cole

am currently stuck at work for 4 more hours

[urban phoenix]

gl gents

[white cosmos]

I'm gonna play it on paladin, seems to be better overall. Higher scaling or smth

[urban phoenix]

Anyone make it in?

[cursive compass]

no, only rogue users login

[urban phoenix]

XS

[cursive compass]

they don't want a sentinel to do the uber boss

[charred stag]

Gonna level paladin and then decide in a couple weeks where to build for end game. Only have ~40 hours played so far. Healing hands build was pretty fun and extremely tanky.

[rigid star]

That build has changed a bit. mechanically it will still work, yes

[cursive compass]

still good but you wont reach 80 k ward

[turbid dome]

👍 I think HH is still gonna be good, just don’t expect to be as tanky as last cycle

[charred stag]

Gotcha. Wonder if that build can utilize any new uniques as well.

[turbid dome]

You could probably judgement mana dump with the new axe

[cursive compass]

juddgement conc ground got so buffed

[urban phoenix]

Whats good to level with?

[grand igloo]

The only problem I had with the manifest armor build was the minion ran around like it was on ice. Slow acceleration and took it like 2 seconds travel between targets.

[civic coral]

Leveling with hammer throw is good

[chilly ferry]

Dear Sentinels,

Good luck!

^^

[hollow bolt]

Best of luck guys!

[turbid dome]

[spark monolith]

[wide folio]

anyone get in game?

[spark monolith]

[somber skiff]

We have a few minutes delay while waiting on a backend service to deploy. The game should be available for download in just a few more minutes. We apologize for the delay!

[solid forge]

I could make a character on cycle, but it was not 1.1 yet

[twin vortex]

that looks fun for flameburst warpath

[charred stag]

Gotcha, will look into that. I'm sure in a couple weeks we'll have a lot more build data available. Definitely sticking to Paladin though.

[urban phoenix]

❤️ Will there be a patch after that? or just online play will be available?

[turbid dome]

❤️

[tribal basin]

I seek refuge in the sentinel channel , Gen chat is weird atm :/

[cursive compass]

RF login

[short viper]

I took 8 hardcore sents to empowered because i was bored and to prepare for leaguestart but i think i'm starting falconer lmao

[sudden radish]

so we need to restart steam to get the download?

[celest jetty]

you have to be weird to play melee in arpgs so sorry no normalos here

[left widget]

gen chat is always the worst whenever there is any issue whatsoever

[tribal basin]

also all the clowns coming crawled out of their sewer again to just crap on the game

[turbid dome]

Melee is the most fun to play in arpgs

[rigid star]

Most of them pretend to care

[tribal basin]

melee must also feel correct , like Whoosh and snappy

[void onyx]

I just got in but it still says 1.0 ... should i wait until it says 1.1?

[past trellis]

Holy trail javelin ftw

[solid forge]

yes

[grand igloo]

I want a grappler build in an arpg. Sentinal could do it.

[left widget]

update is there for me

[somber skiff]

The patch is available, please restart your steam if you do not see it available for download 😄

[rigid star]

Interesting, I thought it would be 11.4GB, not 5

[fervent panther]

EHG employee only in Sentinel channel, i will start a Sentinel

[urban phoenix]

Lets gooo

[outer abyss]

5 upfront 6 later xD

[solid forge]

I'm sure some devs are Sentinel mains and lurk around sneakily all the time.

[void onyx]

YAY its up and running on my end 🙂

[rigid star]

Plenty of Senti mains

[tribal basin]

Muffin also hangs out here , seems like a huge Forge weapons fan

[solid forge]

let's hope the backend holds this time

[outer abyss]

How?? you have Giga internet speed or is there some steam settings I dunno about

[urban phoenix]

Yeah gigabit

[left widget]

fiber internet is the goat

[turbid dome]

Make sure your steam download server is actually close to you

[rigid star]

Online seems still down... totes

[fervent panther]

Should i move computer closer to it?

[rigid dragon]

any builds out for our void knighters yet or nah

[rigid star]

huh...

[cursive compass]

VOID KNIGHT LETS GO

[urban phoenix]

online play still unavailable.

[potent remnant]

how you deal with 100 man in this build?

[cursive compass]

from 5 gigs to 15

[tribal basin]

huh , i forgot i was on 50MBit download speed

[turbid dome]

Rive or get more max mana, that’s my rough guide

[rigid star]

oh well

[charred stag]

Online works for me. I'm already at character selection for new cycle

[cursive compass]

OFFLINE SQUAD LETS GO

[outer abyss]

Wait for me guys im still downloading

[rigid star]

This is after

[urban phoenix]

I made my char, but can't play now.

[sudden radish]

you dont get to do the new bosses in offline mode

[cursive compass]

Blasphemy

[potent remnant]

isnt new season start in 1h40min?

[fervent panther]

no

[grand igloo]

Its fine. We have experiance with this from launch. Offline mode for a few hours until you can get in online.

[urban phoenix]

19 mins ago

[polar matrix]

20min ago

[past pine]

Any forgue gard enjoyers?

[tribal basin]

you do , just not Abberoth at first

[potent remnant]

ah ok ok

[fervent panther]

New class?

[urban phoenix]

im playing forge guard

[outer abyss]

is everyone leveling with hammer throw? lol

[charred stag]

ah yeah I see the error message now.

[polar matrix]

^^

[rigid star]

Forge Guard is not a new class, just a bit of a dorement one

[urban phoenix]

gonna try out the new forged weapon rings

[hollow bolt]

it was hidden in the basement

[fervent panther]

Was just being an ass on his spelling

[spark monolith]

ofc

[urban phoenix]

whats the optimal setup for that? do you make em spin or what?

[polar matrix]

javelin isnt better for leveling?

[potent remnant]

who cares about leveling 😄

[twin vortex]

man I was hoping they would give warpath more routes to work with, trying to mimick the PoE physical crit/crit multi boomer but there isnt enough passives to make it viable i dont think (or comparable to other builds)

[urban phoenix]

Im just gonna use it to spawn forged weapons XD

[void onyx]

Hmmm online mode seems to not be working

[wet citrus]

good cycle to everyone ❤️

[astral lintel]

Was bleed node capstone at FG start always 75 percent?

[fair hollow]

let me innnnn

[potent remnant]

still downloading patch, are you able to play or just lagg forever?

[void onyx]

im sitting at a loading screen for 5-6 mins now

[urban phoenix]

Can't get in.

[potent remnant]

ok

[fervent panther]

+23k players in-game, so servers are trying

[outer abyss]

you know the drill. Give it sometime to stabilise

[astral lintel]

Timeline aligned with last cycle relase

[tribal basin]

wel 23k players on Steam i guess

[sweet hazel]

Probably advisable to wait like 2-3 hours for the issues to stabilize.
I'll be honest it's kind of crazy they're having the same problem when there's nowhere near the amount of players trying to play as Launch.

[potent remnant]

I quess if someone playing ssf, its no diff online/offline?

[solid forge]

like I warned them, giving specific start times is dumb, no hardware will manage it.

[urban phoenix]

PoE can do it.

[tribal basin]

i personally like to have people to chat online

[astral lintel]

How do you start a game without a date?

[solid forge]

Nah, always congested the first hours or two

[urban phoenix]

Incorrect.

[grand igloo]

I get in like 10 min on poe new leagues.

[fervent panther]

Wont matter, even if you wrote "1pm-4pm" people would still spam login from 1pm and spam chat when its going to release

[solid forge]

You just say "sometimes late afternoon" and turn on the server in the morning rofl

[void onyx]

I dont understand how this would work.

[solid forge]

The problem is everyone starting at the exact same time at the exact same zone

[urban phoenix]

people race in this game, makes no sense.

[fervent panther]

Sure, but as soon the word is out that people start to get in, everyone would try also, wouldnt fix anything

[astral lintel]

Give this guy most braindead idea award for this year

[solid forge]

I've been playing last 3 leagues on time, I could never play correctly the first hour and the "content creator queue meme" is quite known

[urban phoenix]

I've been in within 30 seconds on the past like 6 leagues with no dc's

[tribal basin]

a staggered release wouldve also not done well with people

[silver blade]

new skin 😉

[tribal basin]

😲

[solid forge]

Nah, most people won't drop what they are currently doing to come play. Look, I know this seems controversial, but that's how WoW was doing it at the very start after they got owned the first time around.

[astral lintel]

Darker than black

[void onyx]

I dont race or push for "leaderboards" in any game. However, I do like to get in right away for new seasons. I find them exciting

[tribal basin]

my download is wonky . it looks like a heartbeat monitor , goes up to 24MBs and then down to 0 :/

[urban phoenix]

Yeah same.

[fervent panther]

lol, your character perfecly lined up with mine, game on background

[peak girder]

You're not really missing out right now, unless you planned to play offline.

[urban phoenix]

It is nice for early economy in PoE specifically, doesn't matter as much for LE.

[outer abyss]

I'm stuck in loading screen xD might need to alt+F

[solid forge]

To be honest I expected this so I didn't make any special preparation for it.

[tribal basin]

Grole stuck in Loading Zones

[solid forge]

I'm fine with 1-2h hickups on launch

[turbid dome]

[urban phoenix]

wish they had a queue so i could just do something else while i wait.

[peak girder]

Pretty sure there will be a queue at some point

[outer abyss]

you will ge the queue soon 🙂

[fervent panther]

you still can technically

[solid forge]

Didn't check general, but I assume it's on fire with angry nerds.

[urban phoenix]

XD

[outer abyss]

Hahah your giga internet is no use in front of me!

[summer moss]

hasnt been for me since expe.

[urban phoenix]

I remember last season getting in early, and getting past the first few zones kept me in the game, everyone else got stuck in the first couple areas.

[tribal basin]

yes , pretty much , all the doom sayers are back

[peak girder]

Nah, it's totally fine

[cerulean dome]

is there a shield bash guide out yet? or can someone share theirs

[fervent panther]

Wish me luck, will go and look in General xD

[tribal basin]

Heh , thats actually funny tho

[solid forge]

At least it's quite original.

[outer abyss]

Yep

[peak girder]

Yep 😄

[grand igloo]

Well, this is a great time to do laundry and some simple exersize.

[solid forge]

These coockoos think starting 15 minutes earlier will change anything when some unknown (or maybe a content creator) ends up waltzing the thing with a super secret build in less than 24h

[weak nacelle]

Super excited to go sentinel this round!

[outer abyss]

or you can stare impatienly on the screen

[peak girder]

I'm in!

[urban phoenix]

same

[weak nacelle]

Ended up with a 100 primalist squirrel boy last time. Started making a paladin and loved it, so this time going to just wing it and go with it!

[tribal basin]

I will bet on Empys Goon Squad

[grand igloo]

I don't plan builds. I just suffer my way to 80 then seek help.

[fervent panther]

I´m in people 🙂

[rigid star]

yeah, connected now

[cerulean dome]

you misspelled gold duper

[tacit zealot]

someone tryna type code to us XD

[outer abyss]

Playlist ✅ Lootfilter ✅ Broswer Builder✅ Snack&Drink✅

[grand igloo]

Oh nooo. i forgot a loot filter. I do that on poe too.

[outer abyss]

Just search one and export it but you still got time anyway

[cerulean dome]

so no shield bash guide?

[potent remnant]

ok guys

whatever u play, GOOD LUCK

[gusty field]

Hey how is the forgeguard with the 1.1 ?

[magic helm]

SIema

[small dirge]

siema 🙂

[turbid dome]

why can’t my work day end already

[bright fjord]

How's everyone doing their 1-70

[primal heron]

Is anyone going to try smite warpath void knight?

[vast mountain]

warpath here i might try, since it now has mana regen

[primal heron]

Love how many ways you could build it

[south lynx]

any new player friendly erasing strike vk guides?

[cerulean sorrel]

for endgame? if so do you have any solid guides for it?

[turbid dome]

This is what I'm planning, the simple combo is void cleave (to give them time rot stacks) and to make the next ES a crit-> erasing strike -> Rive for mana/need to kill something while stuff is on cooldown. The guide here doesn't use exalted stuff or legendries (apostate's sanctuary is the only uncommon thing on it, so that can wait for later). You want a lot of vitality for the defense and the more void damage from the new mastery passive

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVk7aZdQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[south lynx]

very dope, thank you
is this something i can start levelling with? or do you recommend something else

[primal heron]

What if this but void knight & convert both to void dmg

[peak girder]

What am I looking at

[fair hollow]

art

[turbid dome]

Yeah the build works with bad gear, damage wise you really only need melee void damage on your two handed axe or sword. So really while leveling you just want generic good affixes (health/resistances/etc.) there’s nothing specific you need for it to start working

[south lynx]

hell yeah, guess im starting it
i appreciate the explanations

[turbid dome]

No problem, you want to go for obliterater on void cleave first so you get the guaranteed crit on erasing strike.

Once you get most of the points void cleave the enemy then erasing strike it and most things will just be dead

[bright fjord]

Is shield bash bait guide? 😆

[elfin swan]

Hey guys, paladin with healing hands is still good? i cant try my legacy character cuz its not have market level to equip items -_-

[turbid dome]

Healing hands should still be good, it’s nerfs brought it in line from being insane have not tried it in 1.1 yet

[elfin swan]

is there any way to equip the bought items to the legacy character?

[turbid dome]

Like from the merchants guild? You need to get them ranked up to the items faction requirement

[elfin swan]

i had, now i have to level my faction in the legacy realm to try a character? xd

[turbid dome]

Probably, I’ve never opened legacy

[elfin swan]

i dont want to play legacy at all just to try my character if its still good but ye, my market level is 1

[turbid dome]

[hallow nebula]

Ok from my fg 100k ward to 7k xD

[turbid dome]

ward stocks are down

[hallow nebula]

I dont have shackles btw

[turbid dome]

Didn’t shackles also get nerfed

[spring pollen]

Yes

1 ward ret per 2 cold resist now, instead of per 1

[hushed dove]

?

[urban phoenix]

just nice early drop

[turbid dome]

Amazing early drop

[urban phoenix]

Rive feels pretty incredible early

[turbid dome]

Rive, especially if your going 2 hander

[urban phoenix]

forged weaps are popping off

[turbid dome]

This thing is great, and if your not using forged weapons just grab the node after it

[urban phoenix]

Exactly where i went, feels great.

[amber solstice]

you found a build for this ?

i am totally curious about the sword

[fleet sorrel]

So chat, what mastery are you all going for this cycle? I'm still debating on Void or Forge but I'm indecisive

[turbid dome]

I especially love it on VK with an apathy’s maw. Maw comes with a T7 void dmg affix and you can slap another one on, so foe cleaver basically gives you 4 T7 melee void damage affixes

[turbid dome]

You can probably guess what mastery I’m doing

[fleet sorrel]

Paladin obviously

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Look in the FAQ, there is a post for that. You should still have your faction lvl

[elfin swan]

Checking it out, thank you!

[fleet sorrel]

Eh screw it, I'll go Forge
Surely it'll be good this cycle

[elfin swan]

Could you send what build u following? 😄

[elfin swan]

I cant find it in the FAQs :S could you mine link it please?

[waxen nymph]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1260279433772662854

Like 3rd link...

[fleet sorrel]

I'm just following the Maxroll leveling build, I'm sure there's probably better out there but it's easier to navigate for me

[elfin swan]

Sorry, my bad, i searched it in the gameplay faq for some reason, thank you

[primal heron]

I forgot the name but it gives you a chance to smite on melee hit

[waxen nymph]

Palarus

[amber solstice]

i know but basically you would go for paladin with warpath with the sword or ?

[waxen nymph]

Paladin + Holy Aura Flame Burst + Smite

[primal heron]

The pic shows fire warpath pally

[bold glen]

is there any good skill for melee bleed leveling that would work with Taste of Blood that i just found?

I'm doing bleed hammers as FG, but could switch to some melee build too to abuse Taste of Blood more

[leaden totem]

what do u guys are using to level up? im a lv 20 vk

[urban phoenix]

dang, wrong ring...

[urban phoenix]

Rive, lvl 26

[wooden rune]

good start

[charred stag]

how do you get legendaries this early?

[wooden rune]

league mechanic

[bold glen]

could rive or warpath maybe with this be better than hammers for early leveling 🤔

[leaden totem]

ignite?

[charred stag]

what's that?*

[solemn harbor]

I mean, bleed Warpath used to be a thing, but that was ages ago.

[wooden rune]

the harbringer adds you can find, challange to empower the items or bansih and get new ones etc

[urban phoenix]

Kinda just any dot for now yeah

Mostly focusing on forged weapons

[charred stag]

ah I see. I've only seen that pop up once but didn't drop anything special after I killed it.

[urban phoenix]

If you empower, you do the fight, but it delays the item drops and upgrades them

upgrades similar to those web items or whatever they are

[charred stag]

oh yeah just found it again. Last time I clicked Empower.

[turbid dome]

What sword is that

[urban phoenix]

gross

[turbid dome]

My goofy ass did not commit the image to memory

[charred stag]

is it better to just banish and try to get something more useful?

[unborn cypress]

Is Multistrike still the best way of generating forged weapons?

[urban phoenix]

yeah i think so, it has 1 leg every time

[charred stag]

guess I wasted the last one, should have bandished

[urban phoenix]

I'm using Rive, its good.

[unborn cypress]

Which Rive node generates them?

[left widget]

first unique drop is a phantom grip, lets go

[charred stag]

bound weapon

[radiant tangle]

When you decide not to go FG... but the game says you should have...

[turbid dome]

Wowz

[urban phoenix]

super jealous man... unethical roll too

[charred stag]

is there a way to start COF early or have to progress through the campaign?

[mellow willow]

classic ehg. bleed part works only on melee hits, not throwing

[turbid dome]

You can start getting levels on your not first character in a cycle, the faction people show up in the keepers camp

[unborn cypress]

Are there any new skill trees that benefit forged weapons in this update?

[charred stag]

that I'm not too sure.

[charred stag]

not first character?

[urban phoenix]

need to make it to like a9 with one char first

[turbid dome]

Once you get to factions on one character, any future characters can join early, sorry worried it poorly

[charred stag]

right so you have to actually play through the campaign to A9 then future chars will have immediate access. some people already got to A9?

[urban phoenix]

Don't think people are at a9 yet.

[cursive compass]

got dreamthorn with melee phys % from harbinger. god gamer start

[turbid dome]

Unethical

Void 👍

[cursive compass]

[charred stag]

gotcha thx.

@urban phoenix is it worth specing into void cleave just for these or rive still superior

[urban phoenix]

First time playing sentinel, not too sure.

[turbid dome]

What other skills are you using?

[charred stag]

only level 19, mainly rive, lunge, and holy aura.

[turbid dome]

Ah, those boots are best used by void knight, but for early campaign any flat damage is good

Void cleave only works with two handed axes or swords so it’s hit or miss to even use it

[hardy surge]

anyone have any idea if forge guard might feel good this patch

[charred stag]

ah okay. ill wear em but stick with my current skills then.

[turbid dome]

Yeah, for your level their a ton of move speed and some extra damage, swapping off them later would be the play

[dark field]

Does Forge Weapons get unique properties as well? For example Event Horizon or stuff like this

[charred stag]

that's what I was thinking as well, sweet.

[south lynx]

hey do you happen to have a letools loot filter link? i'm doing saf

[turbid dome]

That I do not, I just modify mine based on what stuff I want in the moment

[south lynx]

👍 thanks though

[turbid dome]

No problem, just suffering through a guide for how to use it makes it very easy to just make a filter as you go

[modern junco]

does anyone know if healng hands can stll only actvate once per warpath when using the clerics hammer node?

[robust stirrup]

Hey guys, is a basic bleed hammer aura build still viable? And what subclass would you recommend for it?

[winter copper]

Yes and it will never work on every hit, devs dont want that and it will be extremely overpowered

[dark field]

Question SENTINELS. Do forge weapons get replaced with newer forge weapons or do they not get replaced until they time out?

[winter copper]

They get replaced iirc

[dark field]

Will great axes get replaced with swords?

[winter copper]

Most likely not l but only one way to find out

[spring pollen]

They only get the basic affixes that can also be found on generic items. They do not get unique affixes like tidal wave in this example

[potent remnant]

sword for smite and this idol on 23 lvl ^^

[amber solstice]

But do we have a written guide or build somewhere ?

[white cosmos]

Just need a quick confirmation, the paladin passive "prayer" doesnt have a buff icon or anything to track it right?

[teal tinsel]

Trying to build a tank summoner forge guard any advice?

preferably with shield

[kind isle]

does warrior's fury in warpath increase mana cost per secound +4 +4 +4 etc or its just +4 cost and just that

[astral lintel]

does it work with throwing skills? doesnt appear in bleed chance at character screen

[potent remnant]

lol what is this loot xD

[wet python]

Does anyone know if Shield Rush is still bugged for online? Deciding on my starting build.

[winter copper]

Its ramping infinetly

[turbid dome]

Bro got that weavers will

[urban phoenix]

😮

[teal tinsel]

gz

[urban phoenix]

Too bad its not +2, but i'll take 99%

[charred stag]

@urban phoenix you following a guide for your rive setup or just winging it until later?

[urban phoenix]

Winging it.

[kind sphinx]

Is it bugged?

[arctic bay]

What happened to Paladin?

[winter copper]

Why? Its supposed to do that, its infinetly ramps mana cost and damage

[winter copper]

What happened to paladin? What do u mean

[urban phoenix]

Anyone else lose connection to the server?

[arctic bay]

Ward nerf gutted tankiness

[cerulean sorrel]

Vk fg or pal, which is bis for sent with warpath?

[winter copper]

Well that was how it supposed to be in 1.0 you are just used to a bugged overtuned thing

[steel star]

what are peoples thoughts on Forge Guard path?

[cold rose]

probably the strongest its ever been

[steel star]

k, im thinking thats wht i wanna go first. the whole multistrike/forge strike synergy is rather cool

[twilit valley]

Just woke up, how’s everyone enjoying it soo far

Yes boss I’ll put in 14 hours today ..

[steel star]

lol

[lean kestrel]

Can someone explain to me how forged weapon really work ?
They scale like minions, but also with my main hand weapon.
Are they allowed to trigger effects like Eye of Ren ?

[dark field]

I would like some assistance as well lol

[spring pollen]

They only inherit the basic affixes from your weapons and also the implicit. They do not inherit any special affixes that you find on uniques. For example with eye of reen, the weapons would get the crit multi implicit, melee fire damage, chance to apply ignite but NOT the reens ire affixes.

[west raft]

is there any good filter for paladin support ?

[dark field]

So basically you just want a big stack stick

[spring pollen]

Basically yes

And keep in mind stats can double dip, for example phys pen minion phys pen will give your minions phys pen then they inherit the affix and get it again

[twilit valley]

This doesn’t make any sense tbh , you should learn to make a filter yourself later in game since everyone is looking for different items later on for their build

[lean kestrel]

Sweet, thank you !

[dark field]

Dudes just asking for help

[west raft]

at some point I will, just need a generic one rn for paladin

[twilit valley]

I’m jusy replying nicely

[dark field]

Just last epoch tools

[west raft]

I mean thanks ?

[dark field]

Check*

[junior plank]

hm do you guys think on hit judgement is finally viable? the world splitter axe looks interesting for it

[charred stag]

Damn holy trail javelin feels like ass

[abstract pumice]

there new unique items for paladin at all?

[tribal crane]

couple

[wet forum]

Anyone know if forged weapons get the "more fire dmg to enemies inflicted with spreading flames" mod from firestarter torch?

[waxen nymph]

They dont

[wet forum]

Shame, thanks!

[cerulean sorrel]

Void Knight or Forge Guard for warpath build?

[steel star]

base stats, only, and the things like, extra fire damage. no special from unique abilities

[wet forum]

I'm trying to ignite warpath with FG using the bleed->ignite convert, no idea yet how that'll go

[steel star]

so melee atack speed is good, as well as say minion attack speed

[cerulean sorrel]

Solidddd FG it is for season start!

[wet forum]

I see ty, probably gonna focus on self-inflicted ignite with a 2h axe then

[steel star]

im going with multistrike/forge strike synergy. might not be the strogest, but i like the feel of it, throw in a little manifest armour, and see how i do

[leaden totem]

anyone has a vk leveling guid?

[empty cliff]

is multistrike smite fine? i'm feeling the single target damage is not very good at all, is that just low level lack of synergy

[white cosmos]

The paladin node "prayer" works right?
I dont see any indicator or buff

[dark field]

We don't think this will work for Forge Weapons do we?

[lament star]

ggs leveling gonna be smooth

[quiet hearth]

that hammer will work for pretty much anything that hits ppl

[dark field]

But its Dilation won't work for Forge Weapons no?

[hallow lotus]

Been using the New Shield bash, but i don't know if im going crazy

Seems like the Node where it gets two charges, The second charge doesn't get the cooldown recovery from stuns. Anyone used it that can confirm? Making sure im not crazy lol

[quiet hearth]

No it wont, it only effects your damage tmk

[turbid dome]

does empowering always mean a new affix for uniques? (first nemmy)

[quiet hearth]

I think it's just a chance

[turbid dome]

welp come here bleeding heart at lvl 13

[quiet hearth]

ok engi so get this, you know the node that gives hp and mana back on certain skills? It works with each hit of multistrikes extra swords

[turbid dome]

time and faith?

[quiet hearth]

yeah

[turbid dome]

wow

[quiet hearth]

pretty sure it isnt supposed to do that since it says use directly

[white cosmos]

The paladin node "prayer" works right?
I dont see any indicator or buff

[hallow lotus]

I believe multistrike extra swords count as directly as you have to still directly Use the attack iirc

[quiet hearth]

I mean if it's intended that is stupidly good, 10% of missing hp and 10 mana each sword? Time for some falsewater fury

[cerulean sorrel]

You need to get healed for it to proc.

[obtuse perch]

Ok so this evening I reached level 27. First time using forged weapons. It's actually pretty fun.

[turbid dome]

[obtuse perch]

I'm only level 27 but they've been going brrr.

[lament star]

palarus not good for selfcast while leveling :/ good thing i didnt respec Rive.

[white cosmos]

Healing hands buff on me should be enough right?

[cerulean sorrel]

You need to actual heal hp for it to proc, if you use healing hands on full hp it wont proc

[lament star]

use smite with hp cost if smite is in your build

[white cosmos]

Alright, I'm doing a non evade tank build and get hit constantly. That should work. I was just irritated because there is zero indicator if the buff is up or not

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah I don’t think there is a buff icon not sure but the dmg and healing effectiveness definately change when it procs

[jagged cosmos]

Manifest armor with cdr is cracked lmao

[cursive junco]

Pally are OP these session?

[rocky anchor]

are any of the HH builds still good?

[lament star]

do you really need the healing effectiveness on a reflect build ? @white cosmos

[solemn harbor]

Did I terribly oversleep? Yes, yes I did. I'm so far behind already. lol And Pally is always OP, just boring.

[lament star]

yes but life version since the ward generating interaction was super nerfed

[rocky anchor]

ahh was it? how bad is it?

[cursive junco]

I was a Jelkhor lover... but yeah not available anymore idk what to build

[lament star]

not bad if you play life version* pala

[white cosmos]

Who said anything about a reflect build?

[solemn harbor]

Rive HH autocast with Life is still great. If you were wanting to play the melee HH that infinitely stacks Ward, well, you're part of the reason for the massive ward change to retention.

[rocky anchor]

that was a fun playstyle. i really enjoyed the rive HH build

[lament star]

ah mb i thought you were going for that since you wanted your tank to get hit a lot

[white cosmos]

Nah, just going for rive + healing hands now and transitioning into shield bash healing hands as soon as I get the shield axe

[cerulean sorrel]

There was no reason to nerf the HH dmg

[tribal basin]

okay , i found a Palarus and a firestarter torch from random drops plus the Phantongrip rind and the Phantom mire gloves ... im very lucky

[solemn harbor]

I'm contemplating doing a dual wield Rive HH this time... The shield version and the 2h version was fun... And HH Damage was kinda bonkers if you built right. ALthough I don't know how this update changed the caster version of HH because I don't mess with that.

[lament star]

both of these have low legendary potential. its not that rare

[tribal basin]

please dont kill my vibe okay

[lament star]

[turbid dome]

[frail niche]

I mean everything but the Dilation parts should, and 70% all res pen is crazy, and another more damage multiplier and movement speed; all good stats

Do Forged Weapons have stun immunity by default? Do you need the Unflinching threshold for them or no?

[waxen nymph]

They dont

[frail niche]

Uh, so as in they do need the threshold?

I just saw on LETools it has that "+1 Stun Immunity" line on the minion

[waxen nymph]

They dont have Stun Immunity
So yup they would need it

[dark field]

Need the threshold

[lament star]

i forgot again. Triggered melee healing hands can't proc another effect right ?

[frail niche]

Roger, gotta grab that then, now I just need some boots that teleport them on using Lunge

[dark field]

I wonder if Sword Catcher is just better though

How much weavers will can a Code of the Erased Sentinel have?

[turbid dome]

28, or whatever enough to get 4 t7s is

[frail niche]

I don't think Sword Catcher is particularly good; I'd rather just have an Apathy's Maw cus it applies Doom

Sword Catcher has like 40 more flat, but you give up Doom (16% more damage) and 80% increased and leech rate

[quiet hearth]

up to +6 on your melee still is uh, hard to turn down too

[frail niche]

plus skills doesn't really help forged weapons, you can cap all the important nodes with like 22 total

[paper sonnet]

void knight nodes are fixed? anyone knows?

[turbid dome]

which nodes are you talking about?

[paper sonnet]

DAY 384 - PSA: None of the void beam nodes work (VK)

The void beam related nodes in Erasing Strike do not function.

Obliteration

Erasing Strike and the spells it triggers deal additional void damage.
@ 5/5 points => 30 void damage (60 with 2H)
DOES NOT APPLY.

Void Lens

All void beams created by erasing strike deal more damage.
@ 2/2 points => 80% multiplicative damage.
DOES NOT APPLY.

Ravenous Void
The void beams are supposed to "travel at random". Currently they are static.

these were from 1.0

[west raft]

is it me or this is not giving +1 sigil ?

[turbid dome]

I think the patch notes mentioned void beams being fixed, would need to double check

[west raft]

I should have 5 instead of 4

[scenic gyro]

it doesnt give an extra sigil, it just gives +skill and casts one

[solemn harbor]

My first reward off of the mini bosses... I'm happy with these...

[west raft]

AHHHH thanks

[turbid dome]

dang nice boots

[paper sonnet]

All sources of Void Beams cast by the player, such as from Erasing Strike or Shield Rush, now have an added damage effectiveness per second of 300%, with an equivalent base damage value (previously 100%, 125%, or 300% depending on the source). only found this, hope its fixed

(Bug Fix) Fixed a bug where the Void Beams from Ravenous Void did not visually move in Online play
(Bug Fix) Fixed a bug where the Void Beams from Ravenous Void did not receive the strength or vitality scaling present on other sources of Void Beams
(Bug Fix) Fixed a bug where Void Lens did not affect Void Beams from Ravenous Void
(Bug Fix) Fixed a bug where Obliteration was not providing its listed void spell damage to Void Beams created by Erasing Strike
(Bug Fix) Fixed a bug where Implements of Destruction and Erasure of the Living were not providing their more damage or more void damage to Void Beams created by Erasing Strike

yeah gg

[turbid dome]

woot

[paper sonnet]

wonder if he is any good this cycle, gotta check it

[stark oriole]

If you empower a nemesis, Do the rares they offer you get upgraded to exalted or unique or better?

I've been fishing for a unique and banishing them If there's no unique I can use but I'm wondering if empowering them changes the rares to a different rarity?

[waxen nymph]

+1 TO Sigils of Hope
Meaning +1 Level to the skill

[west raft]

👍

[glad pike]

Which one is better in 1.1? Fg or VK?

[turbid dome]

VK (I am biased)

[quiet hearth]

I am biased too for fg, but VK still better

[south zephyr]

FG is for minions and that's mostly it AFAICT, still playing it tho, and having a blast tbh

[outer abyss]

Can rune of shattering hit a sealed T7 affix?

[ionic spade]

sealed says no

[waxen nymph]

You mean "Can you get Shards from the Sealed Affix" ?

[outer abyss]

Yes

[obtuse perch]

DPS forge strike is a thing. Shield bash FG also a thing. Smelter's Wrath as well.

[quiet hearth]

im doing bleed FS right now

[south zephyr]

Shield bash is either/or with pally being about as good, smelters wrath was pretty bad for most of its recent history although I suppose I didn't check for buffs yet, dps forge strike is point to you though

[waxen nymph]

#🔪┃rogue

[obtuse perch]

The skill itself is unchanged but has way better support.

[south zephyr]

Hmmm interesting might switch out from rive/forge strike and try it depending on what gear drops

Forgot how good forged weapons felt early/leveling though, just absolutely shredding bosses

[obtuse perch]

One of the passive nodes gives 20 pen to FS and SW both. A connected one gives crit multi based on strength, and one of the FG exclusive nodes gives further resis pen also based on strength.

[obtuse perch]

Level 27 right now, I'm loving how the swords literally go brrr.

[south zephyr]

Hmmm I know it never works but I might try to hybridize minion/non-minion, if any class could do it, it'd be FG with the inherited stats on weapons/armor

[obtuse perch]

Ring of shields are support minions.

[quiet hearth]

yeah Im planning on stacking all that phys pen and slapping people with massive bleeds

[south zephyr]

Plus you can get like level 30-35 FS with some uniques

Cross my fingers for a phantom grip drop when I finally get to play tonight

[obtuse perch]

Like if any kind of minion helps an otherwise nonminion build it's the shields.

[turbid dome]

thanks nemesis?

[obtuse perch]

...it does require a shield tho. So maybe make it a shield rush or shield bash build.

[south zephyr]

Oh I more meant the fact that forged weapons and manifest armor inherit your weapon stats (and armor for MA) means you can actually kind of scale both your personal damage and your minions damage

[obtuse perch]

I got a legendary arboreal circuit with a t6 health roll from a nemesis today.

[quiet hearth]

you thank the snot out of that man, also, is anyone else forgetting they have evade now?

[south zephyr]

Nice, nemesis has been a blast tbh, great addition makes leveling way more fun

[south zephyr]

Me, constantly lol, would probably make my exiled mage fights easier if I remembered

[obtuse perch]

Arboreal circuit actually meshes well with a minion build so I equipped it.

[quiet hearth]

I hate that the mages have the ward burst too

[turbid dome]

the bosses need the ward burst from my ES so far

[obtuse perch]

Not sure why it says it summons a tree. It's clearly a target dummy.

If they have ward burst then they had DDR before.

I wonder if I should get the node that makes forge strike ranged.

That way I can evade an attack and still FS so I can still put the armament stacks to use.

[quiet hearth]

I got the VC boots, the game is taunting me for not going VK

[obtuse perch]

VC?

[steel star]

man, 'free' forge strike is pretty cool

[quiet hearth]

free?

[obtuse perch]

Void cleave? What do the boots do for that?

[waxen nymph]

Void Cleave
Flat Melee Void Dmg
MS per Melee Void Dmg you have

Extra VC Charge

[quiet hearth]

also +1 charge

[obtuse perch]

MS? Sorry I'm tired.

[charred stag]

movement speed

[obtuse perch]

Are there any uniques that raise max weapons?

[winter copper]

no

[obtuse perch]

So with the passive node that's 12 weapons max?

[waxen nymph]

Sunforged Set iirc

[quiet hearth]

Im not sure if it's going to be better to proc FS with multistrike or get the no cd node and spam and then recover

[waxen nymph]

But thats kinda bad

[turbid dome]

sunforged set is fun but not worth

[obtuse perch]

Multistrike puts less of a strain on your mana.

[quiet hearth]

Right, but you can double the duration of bleeds, so you drop and then recover might be best. I think sets should just drop with WW honestly

[obtuse perch]

I feel like they'll revisit set items at some point but it's not a high prio.

[turbid dome]

give each set item some WW that adds to the overall setbonus

[obtuse perch]

Still the forged weapons are very satisfying at low levels

[turbid dome]

ye

[obtuse perch]

Even t1 ignite on weapon stacks it very easily.

[turbid dome]

t1 * num of forged weapons = a lot

[quiet hearth]

I have literally zero DoT affixes or things from my tree and these FS bleed ticks are like 150

[brazen basin]

Anyone play tested ES? is it good now? 😛

[turbid dome]

Erasing strike has always been good

[south lynx]

engi i'm half way through the campaign following your erasing strike build, dropped an early darkstride and i'm running through everything

[turbid dome]

back2basics VK works with crappy gear and scales very well (:

[south lynx]

yeah great build, thanks 🙏

[turbid dome]

np dude, nothing is more fun then seeing a double juiced up ES obliterate a boss's hp

[charred stag]

kinda wish I went VK instead of pala for cycle start

[obtuse perch]

Speaking of

[south lynx]

when/what do you use rebuke for? i haven't pressed it at all

[quiet hearth]

Yo pally with Smite and the new time and Faith node is busted

[turbid dome]

tanking 1 shot mechanics and lagon's one shot attacks mostly

[obtuse perch]

Here is a fun experiment for a non minion minion build: Smelter's Wrath has a node that scales hit damage based on ignite stacks. Forged weapons can stack ignites very fast.

[quiet hearth]

attach HH onto it for each smite, profit Im telling you

[turbid dome]

I did this build first in HC so having a giga panic button was great

[charred stag]

got a build planner for reference?

[quiet hearth]

I do not, but I can get you one hold on

[obtuse perch]

Btw Rive was really good before I got forge strike. Can very easily get ignites on that too.

[hollow stone]

DId forgeguard end up getting buffed? or is it still terrible

[obtuse perch]

It wasn't terrible but yes it got buffed.

[quiet hearth]

you using a shield?

[leaden totem]

Can u send me the link

[obtuse perch]

Me?

[quiet hearth]

no kyber

[charred stag]

I have one yeah

[hollow stone]

It was compared to every other class lmao, ahh that's good I couldn't see any changes in recent patch notes so I assumed it was still pretty bad

[turbid dome]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApVd1KRB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class:

Sentinel (36) / Void Knight (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,511, Regen: 153/s
▸ Mana: 103, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 78 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 75% / 60% / 117% / 110% / 105% / 78%
▸ EHP: 8,743 / 9,224 / 7,986 / 16,430 / 9,224 / 9,224 / 9,224

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 702
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,219)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Void Essence (3/3), Void Aegis

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Erasing Strike (22)
• Rebuke (22)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Apostate's Sanctuary
• Apathy's Maw
• Darkstride

[waxen nymph]

Could not see any changes in the recent patch notes ?????

Have you looked at the 1.1 Patch Notes ? 😵😅

[leaden totem]

Thks

[turbid dome]

np just make sure to go for the gauranteed crit node on void cleave first

[hollow stone]

Just did ctrl+f and I was looking at the wrong skills I guess lmao, the skills at the bottom of the list

[waxen nymph]

FG did get some love

[hollow stone]

Looks like it's actually HC viable now, yay!

[waxen nymph]

Not enough but still

[turbid dome]

yay I'm finally free from the lotus halls + empy's remains

[obtuse perch]

Btw what makes auto FS at max armament better than manually casting FS?

[waxen nymph]

For Summoning Weapons imo its better on Direct Use

[dark field]

Les sbuttons

[obtuse perch]

Like I said, it got buffed.

[obtuse perch]

Assuming DPS forge strike, isn't casting manually still better? What does the autocast add?

[waxen nymph]

Less button

[quiet hearth]

also you get faith and time from mutli, so 10% of missing hp per swing and 10 mana

[obtuse perch]

So the high mana cost is actually a tax for time and faith 😮

[quiet hearth]

fs always had a high mana cost

[obtuse perch]

Yeah but if you autocast through MS it costs 40.

[waxen nymph]

World Splitter 👀

[quiet hearth]

I wonder if that 40 gets added to the cost for crushing blows

[obtuse perch]

What if you go no cooldown FS, How do you make it more sustainable?

[quiet hearth]

I dont think you can

That is 35 mana a swing, so you'd need to stack mana regen out the wazu unless there is some secret squirrel tech I dont know about

[obtuse perch]

I'm starting to float around this idea to make a spam FS so I can run every minion plus VR, plus VC.

[waxen nymph]

No thats Mana Consumed

[obtuse perch]

But that will cost all of the mana.

[dark field]

I do wanna do just use FS + Forge Weapons + MA but I just don't think mana is doable

[obtuse perch]

Minion damage also affects ignites inflicted by minions right?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[wise rune]

wtf the smite from palarus can work multiple times during warpath i thought it would be like healing hands and only work on the first hit

[waxen nymph]

Lightning Res stacking + Urzil

Might work

[quiet hearth]

though if you could get reasonable mana regen, a mana spent as ward set up wouldnt be too bad I think

[waxen nymph]

Wording is different
HH> When you use xxx and hit a least an enemy
Palarus> Chance on Melee Hit

[quiet hearth]

yeah world splitter is really your only option because you would have to stack mana

[wise rune]

wording is the same actually healing hands just has a tooltip that adds more context

[quiet hearth]

gods you can only get like 30% mana regen on the tree for sentinel

[turbid dome]

hey now, vk can spend 10 points on getting 20%

[quiet hearth]

right but in the back half of the tree, you have to be FG to use FS

[waxen nymph]

Yes because you have Mana on Smite, Rive n Vengeance affixes + VR + Time and Faith

[turbid dome]

I was more making a joke at that node

[jagged cosmos]

max cdr boots + whirlwind on manifest armor

[quiet hearth]

oh yeah, you could snag VR and be clunky af

[waxen nymph]

Tooltips are importants
But I see your point

[quiet hearth]

So mana stack, dump FS into something, VR, repeat stack. Use mana gainers if anything lives through it

[dark field]

I think using Anvil Strike would be the best way to do it

[quiet hearth]

for raw phys yeah, but the bleed nodes are serious too

[dark field]

I just don't think you can create enough forge weapons using just FS

[waxen nymph]

Anvil Blows and Below are super strong for bleeds

[quiet hearth]

unfotunately anvil doesnt work with the polearm conversion on the left

[waxen nymph]

It does work

[empty path]

I think it's time to do old school foher FG

[quiet hearth]

bruh

[waxen nymph]

You get Stun Chance and Phys Dmg

[quiet hearth]

Imma hurt some peeps with this

just casual like 100% more phys and like 400 phys pen with bleed and 70% base phys pen

[hollow spindle]

just used rune of asendance at level 16 to get this baby. Easy leveling time...

[turbid dome]

[empty path]

Or you can dual wield axes and sword do bleed minions and detonate the bleed with abyssal echo

Nova hammer is still better now on FG

[timid dagger]

Is shield Rush bugged for anyone else? I have no idea if this is a known issue

[dark field]

Alright. Going to try and do Damage FS with FW + MA

[vagrant bone]

Anyone got a leveling hammerdin build planner?