💀┃acolyte

[arctic grotto]

This abom bug that makes it sacrifice itself is getting super annoying, i'm pretty much as good as dead against bosses. I really love this build coz its pretty much a zoo build with one boss minion then bam abom gone for some reason.

[sly forge]

bug report then

the more people report the bug, the more likely EHG will be forced to check it

I just wonder

[noble flame]

I've done a lot of testing trying to figure this one out. If the Abom targets a minion that is within another minions hitbox, it might hit the wrong minion. So you can mitigate it a bit by casting away from your minions... but the auto-rez skeletons can make it harder to manage

[sly forge]

There have been many people who tried this build

[arctic grotto]

I have observe this one too as well, if abom sacrifice a unit very close to it, it will most likely sacrifice itself as well

[sly forge]

so the number of bug reports about this would be a lot

why hasn't EHG fixed it yet

[arctic grotto]

they will probably fix it in the next season 😂

[noble flame]

I think it's going to be a hard one to fix. I assume that it's casting Sacrifice as the player would, so it might require some changes to how spells target

[sly forge]

what is so hard for a hotfix?

[muted mist]

I am assuming that there is a non obvious pathway to this particular thing occurring; if the fix was obvious, they'd probably have fixed it

The more detailed repro steps people submit, the more likely they are to fix it

[arctic grotto]

I guess if the devs dont like the class or build they are not in a hurry to fix it, probably would nerf it too 🤣

[sly forge]

is it possible to submit a video?

[arctic grotto]

impossible using the in-game report system, i dont know any other ways to report bugs to them

[sly forge]

I mean how can you even describe that bug in detail without video?

[vocal yoke]

what the most broken screen clearing warlock build for s4

[arctic grotto]

Reported some bugs to them every now and then, its like your talking to a brick wall

[arctic grotto]

true, we only get to submit a stupid screenshot that couldnt prove anything much

[sly forge]

Well they said they want a detailed repo

and what would be more detailed than a video showing that bug?

[arctic grotto]

btw how does players edit their stuff on offline mode, like quad t7s on uniques? I dont know much about scripts and whatnot

[muted mist]

Open in text editor, it's just a JSON file, human readable (ish)

[obtuse quest]

Witchfire could do that job at the cost of ultra horrible boss fights

[tender ridge]

is anyone else getting stuck when using traversals/evade?

every once in a while it freezes me in place, I can't cast any spells, and most enemies will ignore me. sometimes enemies will attack where I was previously

it's only been happening on my acolyte

[azure dawn]

its your connection

[tender ridge]

if it was my connection I would imagine it happening at least once on my beastmaster that I have nearly 48 hours on this season. It didn't happen a single time

[odd spire]

I have had the same thing. it MAY be my connection but since i have fiber was streaming twitch and had no issues with that at the time.. i dunno

[tender ridge]

honestly if this blood soul feast build wasn't bugged I think it could be a contender. It offscreens stuff easily

[azure dawn]

isn't that what most things come down to in this game it seems like. "if this wasn't bugged it'd be great"

[tender ridge]

I don't know if I would say most, but a lot for sure

I don't know how long this particular node has been bugged but it wouldn't surprise me if Toast and I were the first ones to realize it. It's a niche node on a niche skill

It should also apply to the blood tether it makes, but that might actually be busted

[sudden star]

anyone on profane veil and beat uber abby?

[spice vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZnK2I8llI4

[sonic ocean]

in zombie skill tree, does the bone pact node gains bonuses from minion spell? or minion damage?

[calm dome]

It scales with Marrow Shards tree and player damage scaling

[calm dome]

I like the idea of using that dodge passive threshold node with Foot of the Mountain+Wall of Nothing. Thanks for inspiration

[sudden star]

wowwww

[sudden star]

how are u able to get so many stacks of torment?

[spice vessel]

its not me. i think misha is in here somewhere and can probably answer questions. @autumn bough i think is the right ping? (if not sry)

[autumn bough]

70% spirit freq slam on the chest

[sudden star]

ohhh, and u had all gear just like the endgame planner except for that?

[autumn bough]

ye its written in desc

[sudden star]

what about ur altar?

[autumn bough]

same

[sudden star]

ahhh i see

[autumn bough]

no corruptions tho iirc

on idols

still madness corrup on amulet

[sudden star]

yeah my altar is only giving 36% to prefix

[autumn bough]

are u lacking dmg?

[sudden star]

compared to you big time

[autumn bough]

max roll cast speed idols most important

everything else secondary

and altar well rolled

and madness corrupt amu

[sudden star]

what does the madness do?

[autumn bough]

crit multi

[sudden star]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Joeronimo/character/Sukumanuts this is my build

ohdamn

yeah wow i'd gain over 100% dmg from that

[spice vessel]

any recommendations for fresh acolyte starter? or should i just flay immediately

[autumn bough]

u also dont have enough shred

u need gloves shred affix

and amulet corruption

other than that gear looks ok

so altar, gloves and amulet

farm farm

[hidden sable]

infernal shade

[sudden star]

thank you brother, i completely overlooked the madness thing

i already got him down to 20% so i think the madness alone should get me there

[autumn bough]

madness is less important as shred, madness will give u arond 30% more dmg

shred will give 40% or so, you probably sit at 40-50 stacks and need 100+

[sudden star]

yeah but i have more amulets at the moment to craft on real quick, i almost got the chance to shred but the slam was unlucky 🙁

[autumn bough]

u want to slam on gloves

speed+shred

2lp should be easy prophecies

if u are cof

[sudden star]

i am yeah

and is it worht trying to get the increased fissures or is 20-30 stacks enough?

[autumn bough]

ye u probably can get it in 2-3 days

[autumn bough]

if u get to 30 stacks thats good enough

your chest is fine

[sudden star]

oh yeah it totally forgot i got the attrivute thing

[autumn bough]

i think go gloves first then amu cor then altar

[sudden star]

i grirnded so many altars and nothing

i also wasted probably about 600k favor on ring prophecies for red ring

[autumn bough]

idol ench and altars is the only thing to grind in le realistically

but with those 2 things u can get like 60-80% more dmg

should be noticeable

[obtuse quest]

Starting flay will kill your desire of playing flay, flay is mid as hell without the gear

[autumn bough]

there are tons of good options, rip blood lich, veil warlock, abomination, flay, poisons something(then chaos bolts)

[spice vessel]

if flays not too bad early i think ill prob force that. loved harvest back in the day

[lost gale]

Misha did you see the thing about minion poison immunity idol corruptions giving immunity from dread shade's eternal poison

[autumn bough]

lal really? maybe good for mages

hmmm

idk where else could it be useful

[lost gale]

Get lots of flat from t8 lichs gloves affix

For infernal shades

[autumn bough]

ye but who are u putting shades on

u have zombies that auto explode and need to summon wraiths for dagger

and wraiths dying anyways

[lost gale]

I was wondering about floor shades and no cd zombies with dread shade on direct cast

[autumn bough]

floor shades always there is no other option

lol

[lost gale]

Minion attached shades with bees that are immune to dmg for 4s?

[autumn bough]

that node is trash cause it fcks up the referesh of infernal shade

you can never get full 6 sec infernal with it

unless some other hidden tech but i cant think of anything

zombies that spawn with dread automatically proc infernal refresh when u dont want that

i did upgrade my setup with flame wraith idols, it allows us to keep wraiths without being sacced by sacrifce chains

which is quite noticeable, the new nodes sadly make it only worse

[lost gale]

which new nodes? the zombie dread shade ones?

[autumn bough]

yeee

[lost gale]

unspec abomination eating skeletons to spawn zombies seems like it must have some use to me

but idk what that use would be

[vocal dawn]

is there any way to save this build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYXMWEwB

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 2: Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,728, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Mana: 169.69, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 170%, Regen: 15/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 9 Dex / 78 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 80% / 124% / 118% / 84% / 116% / 38%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 746
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,655)

Used skills:

Summon Volatile Zombie / Reaper Form / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Death Seal

This build has a guide:

Ante's LE Infernal Shade Zombie Spam Lich Build Guide Showcase by Dr3adful

[vocal dawn]

played it in season 2, it was amazing, put it back together here, its ass

[slim sapphire]

What are good dmg base when starting corruption? Im playing flay

Like is 20k with early gear good?

[lost gale]

idk if this is actually an improvement but here's the beginnings of an idea https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A14vDg5b

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (64) / Lich (28)

General:

▸ Health: 1,798, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 110.78, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 208%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 3 Dex / 59 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: -3% / -3% / -3% / 5% / 5% / 148% / 28%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 360
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (138)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 12% (339)

Used skills:

Aura Of Decay / Summon Skeleton / Summon Volatile Zombie / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

[vocal dawn]

im not sure what it is but it feels like its lost something playstyle wise

you have to do way more manually casting zombies now, it used to be hold right click and watch youtube

[obtuse quest]

That setup is pretty pretty dead

[lost gale]

this should be way more automated

[vocal dawn]

🙁

[obtuse quest]

Technically anyway

[lost gale]

but idk if it's good

[obtuse quest]

Now it’s just proc chains instead

[vocal dawn]

it was real good a year ago lol

like real real good

[obtuse quest]

Season 2’s setup relied on an affix that does not exist anymore for one

[vocal dawn]

whats that what am i not seeing?

[lost gale]

which affix?

zombies on potion use wasn't even in S2 iirc, that was S1

[obtuse quest]

Wasit?

[lost gale]

think so

zombies on potion use wasn't an afk hold right click style anyway right?

[vocal dawn]

i dont remember needing to use potions to get the zombies anyway

[obtuse quest]

Added in 1.1, changed in 1.2

My fault oops

[sly forge]

btw @autumn bough have you tried fire zombie warlock?

I wonder if we should use like maxroll or use a 2h weapon

[vocal dawn]

damage numbers seem way different either way, i levelled as rip blood/marrow shards and thought i was weak hitting 10k crits

the zombie explosion build used to hit 200k crits on bad gear

but now its printing, 5k? idk, i cant find what in the build itself changed that much

[lost gale]

with that planner I sent?

1. Summon Abom using summon skeletons & cast dread shade on it
2. Abom will now devour any skeletons you summon, which gives you a chance to summon zombies.
3. Zombies do their thing and trigger infernal shade/combustion on corpse parasites as usual.
4. Enemy deaths summon flame wraiths, having wraiths alive adds tons of damage to infernal shades
5. cast more dread shades on those flame wraiths whenever you can, this adds loads of damage to your infernal shades.

that's the idea of it

minion deaths give you loads of ward, you can get lots of armor and regen too if you build for it

[vocal dawn]

ill give it a shot

[lost gale]

I didn't flesh it all out but there's a core concept there that should work I think

[vocal dawn]

appreciated, im just still kind of lost on what the old version lost though thats making such a difference

[lost gale]

and capping crit should be easy, you get +10% from main and offhand, +8% from the infernal shade skill tree

and it should be very automated, zombies have a high chance to revive in your fire aura of decay

[vocal dawn]

the zombie revive feels the same still yeah

[lost gale]

well the build you linked only used one cycle

[vocal dawn]

oh im using 2

[lost gale]

with two you get much better chances, even moreso with the new boots

[vocal dawn]

its not that its the like raw damage, hold on

[lost gale]

yeah

[vocal dawn]

yeah that was a more lategame version of the s2 one, heres one thats more early league

[lost gale]

well the old lich passive tree was stronger for raw damage output than the new one

[vocal dawn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJYmEpxA

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 1: Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (6) / Lich (76) / Warlock (11)

General:

▸ Health: 3,927, Regen: 12/s
▸ Mana: 257.05, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 442%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 96 Int / 0 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 92% / 76% / 70% / 69% / 183% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 785
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,790)

Used skills:

Infernal Shade / Reaper Form / Summon Volatile Zombie / Transplant / Death Seal

[lost gale]

that makes a difference, but not 200k crits down to 5k crits

[vocal dawn]

yeah thats what im saying, it feels like it lost a LOT more than what i can account for just looking over it

my build rn is much closer to that one ^ btw

[feral ibex]

hi guys, i got a question, i leveling a acolite with rip blood, but as a warlock i honestlmy get destroy, if i switch to lich spec is this better ? or at least easier ?

[lost gale]

warlock is much easier for levelling than lich tbh

[vocal dawn]

i just levelled as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk1GKvDL8M8

was pretty smooth overall

rip blood/marrow shards lich

[lost gale]

death seal lost tons and tons of damage

[vocal dawn]

but yeah leveling as warlock is easier

[lost gale]

maybe it's linked to that?

[feral ibex]

oh..

[vocal dawn]

yeah it def could be that... sigh

[lost gale]

death seal is basically just a defensive cooldown now, you can spec it to add some damage but its basic functionality of giving you like 60-70% more damage was removed

[vocal dawn]

lol man i league started forge guard, and was pleasantly surprised with that, hes doing 200-300 corr with his eyes closed

[feral ibex]

but how farm the item i need for the build withoput can clear a lot, how get anough cast speed ;-;

[vocal dawn]

so much for the zombie explosions transfer

@feral ibex i really never felt like i needed more cast speed leveling as that rip blood/marrow shards guy. if anything it needs more health

[lost gale]

that transfer node is unfortunately quite weak

[vocal dawn]

i mean transfer into that from forge guard hehe

[lost gale]

ah

[vocal dawn]

that was weak too

[feral ibex]

alr thank's

[obtuse quest]

Lich dies faster than warlock

[vocal dawn]

yeah lich dies constantly until you get a real nice lich then it never dies

its also annoying because cooldown on reaper form is 50 years

[feral ibex]

alright thank'es guys :p

waa that's the same my mana get destroy in 20 sec with bone curse activated

[lost gale]

you don't have to use bone curse as an aura early on

if you don't have the cast speed when cursed idols and the amulet which gives you ward then it's not even that good

[feral ibex]

in monolith lvl 64 if i don't use it i don't deal anough damages

[lost gale]

cursed limbs is an acceptable substitute for aura unless you get a lot out of being cursed yet

[feral ibex]

cursed limb ?

[sly forge]

hi @topaz lynx currently, is lich still the best build for stygian coal?

[feral ibex]

oh yeah but thet take a lot of my mana that's the problem

[lost gale]

it's in the bone curse skill tree

[feral ibex]

yeah i saw

[lost gale]

the re-casts don't cost any mana

so you only have to cast bone curse once every 4-5s instead of having the drain every second

[feral ibex]

oh okay and for objective i'll need something like that no ?

[wet sky]

what is the story with golem bug has it been addressed because my build has stalled atm, im trying to play a golem boneshatter build and its absolutly horrible atm

[obtuse quest]

What? There’s a new golem bug? Pretty sure bone shatter is currently working

[wet sky]

no its just stands around doing no attacks and not running to enemies

so u can imagine how horrible it is solo pet having to recast dreadshade and having to resumoon every 30 secs

[obtuse quest]

AI? Don’t think I’ve seen an AI issue with it currently, only played it for leveling though

[wet sky]

ive had 3 necro alts and all 3 have that bug sometimes it gets out of its trance if you order it to attack mobs but sometimes it doesnt

[cosmic wagon]

im about to do a uber, 1 that want to join? I wanna see if i can kill it.

[ripe gazelle]

Hey guys! Im following a "Fire Skeletal Mage" build, but theres no gear guide after the first 1 LP in some items and 2 LP in others, my question is: Is there "Staples" affixes that I should be looking for, besides the ones on the guide?

[sly forge]

:)))

rip blood lich returned on maxroll https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/rip-blood-lich-guide

tbh

right now Idk which build is better with lich and which is better with warlock now

[ripe gazelle]

is rip blood lich better than the rip blood warlock?

[sly forge]

idk

you can ask @shell wraith for that

[shell wraith]

yes it's overall better, working on the FAQ to have a comparison between the two

damage goes crazy on lich especially if you get exulis

[sly forge]

oh so

right now Idk which build will be better on lich

and which will be better on warlock

is warlock only better with builds that require its exclusive skill (whip, profane veil)?

[shell wraith]

pretty much yeah

profane veil very strong for uber, mapping can feel a bit clunky

but ripblood better on lich

[sly forge]

ah ok

[shell wraith]

some people don't like reaper form gameplay though, so warlock is a good option there

[sly forge]

thanks a lot for explaining

[ripe gazelle]

@shell wraith Thanks!

[ripe gazelle]

Also, @shell wraith would you happen to know something about this?

[lost gale]

is corrupted form low-life stuff fixed? It wasn't in the patch notes and wasn't working in 1.3 IIRC

[shell wraith]

Yeah I was testing it and seems to work properly

[lost gale]

good to know, thanks

now if they can fix destruction engine...

[obtuse quest]

Wait they did? i don’t see it in the patch notes

[shell wraith]

I don't think there was a patch note for it. My testing was in offline though and sometimes bugs can be different for online/offline

gonna respec my online warlock to lich and see whats up

[sly forge]

btw @shell wraith why does the build sometimes deal insane damage, while sometimes it only deals a moderate amount of damage?

that's the result when I tested

like when I tested vs uberroth

there are periods it deals an insane amount of damage to him

but there are other periods it only deals a small amount of damage

[shell wraith]

from what I've noticed, if you stand too close to the boss, marrow shards get eaten up somehow

maybe some hitbox bug, not sure

[sly forge]

so we have another bug now?

[shell wraith]

xdd

haven't felt like its an issue really but, well

[sly forge]

btw the build has insane ceiling

just tested offline

[shell wraith]

indeed it does, one of my favorite features of these builds

new lich can go even higher

[sly forge]

and I'm kinda surprised that there are some builds like this can take advantage of exulis

btw

have you tried dot chaos bolt lich vs uber?

[shell wraith]

cb is quite solid yeah, uber is a big target so all bolts hit

can easily get to ward bar before first slam etc

[sly forge]

that is a nice dot build

@shell wraith btw this is offline rip blood testing with full t7 gears

as you can see, for this video the build it deals insane dmg almost all the time

but there are other periods (like the first 8 sec of the below video) the build will deal moderate dmg

[shell wraith]

it takes some time to ramp up the ripblood stacks for max dps

JIGA dps!

[sly forge]

this is full t7 test

[balmy void]

Hello! I'm doing a necrotic volatile zombie build (all necrotic minions + spamming volatile zombie with dread shade). What do you think : vomit or not vomit?
I feel like vomit could be a dps loss, since they don't explode as fast

[sly forge]

so the damage is kind of expected

but still very good build

[shell wraith]

okay, tested corrupted form stuff
it's only bugged in online = nothing works

offline everything is perfect, sadge

[sly forge]

:))) sad

[obtuse quest]

Do you want DOT damage or standard crit scalable damage?

[balmy void]

Well mostly crit I suppose. The only dot would be the vomit

But I feel like dread shade on zombie cast would be wasted if they insta die

[obtuse quest]

The explosion is still scaled by dread shade.

Don't really understand the issue when your zombies are the main damage dealer anyway

[minor trout]

what is bugged?
I am playing the mana stacker build

[shell wraith]

it doesn't apply its "you are low life" condition

doesn't make much of a difference for flay mana, quite annoying on rip blood since can't use idol suffixes

[minor trout]

this one?

[obtuse quest]

The "Always count as at low life" was bugged last season.

[minor trout]

so then this node doesent apply?

[minor trout]

oh last season

[obtuse quest]

The low life bonus did not apply, until you were actually low life, yeah.

[obtuse quest]

Well, we aren't sure if it's properly fixed this season.

[lost gale]

Volca just said it works offline but not online tested today

who knows whether that's the same for everyone

[obtuse quest]

Oh I missed the online bug part

F

[lost gale]

I've been messing around with Ghost Maker & WL helmet offline

it's kind of a troll build but you get really good uptime on 6 wraiths and feeding the WL skeletons spawns so many zombies (& shades)

[minor trout]

i mean tool tip dmg is higer the lower my life is

[sick belfry]

guys, should I bother with the health drain/missing health gained as ward on manaflay

[minor trout]

oh oki

[lost gale]

there are a few things that kick in below 35% health, like Dance With Death that you linked.

Corrupted Form is meant to make that active all the time but it still only kicks in <35% health (if you're online at least)

[minor trout]

so technicly missing out 60% increased dmg

[sly forge]

@wintry flame hmm the ceiling of flame wraith is actually very good

the problem is that you would need high lp gear to stack int, fire res and some defensive affixes

[lost gale]

what are you stacking fire res for?

the passive in the necro tree?

[minor trout]

so at "full life" the dmg should not change if i unskill it

[lost gale]

you mean if you remove corrupted form? yeah, except the necro mastery bonus for 50% increased damage at 50% current life

[sly forge]

yes

1 pen per 5 fire res

[lost gale]

is that worth it when you're already running fire AoD and stacking int?

[sly forge]

i want to minmax so yes

stacking res gives double the amount of pen

so I have like 250+ fire pen now

[lost gale]

I guess if you're doing LP4 gear then it's worth it

[sly forge]

l3 gear is sufficient

int, res and some defensive stuff

I wish the build needs less lp gear

so more people would try online

[lost gale]

it looks a lot more awkward to play and not as strong as blood specters to me

[sly forge]

hell no, blood spectre is way better

[balmy void]

I feel like the 30 other minions are also a core part of my dps and want to be buffed by dread shade too :/

[sly forge]

S tier

[sly forge]

flame wraith is not even close but they are A tier

and the process is quite smooth

[minor trout]

this def works, and gives to bones even over 35% missing life (50% life)

[lost gale]

you're using life drain to have enough mana to summon 20 wraiths right?

[minor trout]

so i mean together with sorrupted form

[obtuse quest]

Then why did you preface the build as a necrotic zombie build. That kinda implies that your main damage source is the zombies.

[sly forge]

yes

[lost gale]

any chance that WL helmet and a different 5th skill is better?

[balmy void]

Well I always preface my build as the spammeable. So a build with a ton of minions and spamming zombies is, for me, a zombie build. The same build but with wraith spamming would be a wraith build. Doesn't mean that you don't have other skills doing a lot of damage 😄

Sorry if unclear

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, if all your minions are important, that's an Army build.

[minor trout]

so dance with death and Corrupted form is not working
or dance with death is not giving the bonus at low life.

[sly forge]

no wraithlord is trash

[balmy void]

Alrighty then. This is an army build with zombies :3

[obtuse quest]

A zombie spam build implies zombies are the only minions

[lost gale]

he's just there to summon wraiths for you cheaply

he summons them in pairs at a decent cast rate

[obtuse quest]

Then it would depend, since they're both seperate damage type and dep[ends if you want to spam zombies less.

[sly forge]

oh make sense

[lost gale]

He'll eat any other minions you have but he should prioritise summoning flame wraiths over doing that

but uh idk you could use bone curse for armor shred and get something else instead of whatever shred u have right now or harvest for the massive amount of minion crit chance it can add

or rip blood spatters for 15% more damage & some cast speed

[craggy flicker]

anyone played the profane veil bossing build by maxroll?I just feel like my damage is ass and I have most of the gear up to scratch (just no red rings)

[minor trout]

no so i tested further with skilling at unskilling and it does work form only looking at the tooltips

[wintry flame]

if only wraiths had a necrotic spell counterpart a scales snapshot wraithlord + chaos bolt mana stacking would be ideal to take advantage of their biggest multi. If you did the Wraithlord setup you can unspec the wraiths can't move node before summoning it and respec it for the wraiths it summons. I don't believe he gets updated. That'd be the ideal way to use him

[sly forge]

hmm I prefer selfcast

I can cast where I want

wraithlord = having rely on minion AI

[wintry flame]

indeed

[sly forge]

and not preparing to cast before the boss

[quick tulip]

Any help would be appreciated. I'm currently still using my acolyte leveling build. I'm now lvl 83. Cythonic fissure DPS is only at 9734. Please help lol

[pearl snow]

Tooltip dps is misleading but the best way to get help is to link your character via LastEpochTools

[quick tulip]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Poggybear/character/WeePoggy

[obtuse quest]

This pretty much looks like a build where the tooltip dps cna never be trusted becuase it's an ailment build.

[quick tulip]

Should I be looking at changing to an end game build now, or continue? I'm new to last epoch lol

[pearl snow]

If you like Fissure it can take you into empowered monoliths and even has Flame Whips as an endgame build. Otherwise you can start looking for a skill to help scale you further yes

[quick tulip]

I don't like it, it's beyond mana hungry lol

[pearl snow]

Thats your answer then lol

[sly forge]

yeah

self cast is better

wraithlord is very clunky for me

if only flame wraith does not cost much mana

then I can relpace drain life with chaos bolt

[quick tulip]

Sorry to bother you again, Flame whip build requires 2 items to function, should I still switch or wait?

[pearl snow]

No, you really need that Spine Sword. But you can play Fissure itself until then. If you don’t like Fissure itself then you could stay warlock and go Witchfire which is less reliant on it

[pearl snow]

No biggy, I made a few build guides and actively tell people to ping me in here in their FAQ so I’m fine with it

[quick tulip]

Do you have a build guide for fissure?

[pearl snow]

I made one for Flame Whips and Witchfire. If you wanted more details on specifically Fissure I could only link you what I did for leveling I think

[craggy flicker]

anyone played the profane veil bossing build by maxroll?I just feel like my damage is ass and I have most of the gear up to scratch (just no red rings)

[pearl snow]

Oh I leveled with Chaos Bolts and Fissure for Ignite when I played Flame Whips

So technically it was used but not heavily relied on

[quick tulip]

If you can throw it my way that would be appreciated

I just got mad alchemists ladle, should I be using that straight away also?

[pearl snow]

Ladle is better for On Hit builds not so much for DoT

[pearl snow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/infernal-flame-whip-warlock

its hasnt been updated but everything is still relevant. The only differences now are that Lich Passive Tree was changed but Im positive you still take those nodes and also the addition of corruption. Oh and also changing to Physical / bleed dmg is possible now

[sly forge]

@wintry flame I wonder how good wraithlord is if I stack mana to use chaos bolt to increase its damage

[hybrid rover]

Anyone mind looking at my mana flay acolyte? I'm new to LE and I used my mage to farm for all the uniques just wondering if there's something obvious I missed that I can improve, the build right now is breezing through 100 corruption

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzJVr49

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (67) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,936, Regen: 17.76/s
▸ Mana: 1,196.08, Regen: 18.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 178%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 3 Dex / 85 Int / 2 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 45% / 106% / 63% / 25% / 80% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 1,257
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (237)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,037)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 112%

Used skills:

Flay / Reaper Form / Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards / Harvest

[quick tulip]

I'd still need the spine right?

[hybrid rover]

I'm following the maxroll guide for reference

[pearl snow]

Yeah

Nothing jumps out to me thats ol reliable Harvest Flay right there

[hybrid rover]

Sounds good thank you :) I'm enjoying this build a lot more than anything I've tried so far

[wintry flame]

yeah it could be okay

[lost gale]

I haven't seen a well optimised WL build since the necro changes

[jovial aspen]

im kinda new to lich. if you play with any kind of drain do you have to play with gear that has “lost life/sec ward/sec” or not necessarily? also, is scornful blood a must or not necessarily?

[south scroll]

Best way to sustain mana for warlock guy?

[lost gale]

rip blood is the best way for most acolytes

[obtuse quest]

So, assuming you take scornful, how in gods name are you upkeeping reaper form?

[obtuse quest]

And also this node.

[jovial aspen]

okay so no scornful then 👍

[lost gale]

you can't play low-life and reaper form

[night hemlock]

You can play low life, you can't abuse the missing health gained as ward though

[lost gale]

that's what low life means in last epoch, it means using missing health gained as ward for most of your EHP

[night hemlock]

No it doesn't

[jovial aspen]

okay, i see the folly at what I’m attempting with both of those

[pearl snow]

Low Life is always implying you are doing the whole “missing health as ward” tech. But there is a node stating Low Life benefits, thats seperate

[weak atlas]

On the harvest flay Lich build - are we mostly flaying and harvesting for mana regeneration? How does it change with bosses?

Trying to understand the rotation a bit more.

I don’t have army of skin yet.. I understand w that I build the stacks via flay then harvest and upkeep the 13 stacks via a flay every few seconds

[tender ridge]

it does in like 99% of situations when someone talks about lowlife or LLW

[tender ridge]

i wish it was either just a little bit more mana or a shorter cooldown. I've got over 15mana/s from regen and still tend to run dry if I've got curse aura toggled

[sly forge]

@wintry flame

Even ordinary fire skeleton mage is still top A tier

[oblique cloud]

can you take blood gulch and valley of defilement on Chthonic Fissure?

[sly forge]

better than flame wraith

[oblique cloud]

lmao mb

reading the card explains the card

[obtuse quest]

Someone who knows card

[oblique cloud]

damn well now im not sure how to do this i was trying to go max DoT warlock but that definitely nerfs it a bit

[tender ridge]

that's a big ol' AoD

[obtuse quest]

Unless you need a specific element type for a different interaction, I don't see how that ruins the core idea of "Oops, all DoTs!"

[tender ridge]

RTFC applies to most things in life

were you trying to get both poison and bleed out of it or something?

[oblique cloud]

yeah im not sure which is better for it since it cant stack both

[old hull]

Bleed is generally better than poison, poison base damage is bad

[tender ridge]

bleed warlock with chaos bolts and fissure is a fun time

i'm convinced blood soul feast damage would be cracked if that node wasn't bugged. the AoE on it is insane

[sly forge]

@wintry flame after a bit adjustment

[weak atlas]

What is the best way to use prophesy system to get the army of skin boots? Sorry new to the system, thank you!

[tall zealot]

Lens : boots, mono only, double rewards. Pick all the unique boots ones, avoid guaranteed 1lp, generic armor

Avoid specific boss unless u need to farm it, siege golem (i avoid every named like giant scorp ect but they not as bad as golem, u can target farm diamond matron in a act 9 map idr the name)

[sly forge]

@wintry flame I think cold mage is even stronger

[weak atlas]

Hmmm new to the terminology.. I’ll try to find this.. thank you!

[tall zealot]

Lens are the things u buy from the vendor woman at the entrance

[weak atlas]

Ah gotta buy something.. okay.. so I buy a lens then try to get unique boots ok.. how many should I buy when I go look?

[delicate heart]

Any flay mains know what I should be focusing on more? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3Zgml8

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,190, Regen: 37.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,547, Regen: 20.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 221%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 11 Dex / 98 Int / 5 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 94% / 77% / 82% / 103% / 105% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 77%, Threshold: 1,378
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (49)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,919)

Used skills:

Harvest / Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards / Reaper Form / Flay

[abstract summit]

t7 slam on gloves and relic, then on to double mana idols in every slot

max rolled crit tithe and traitor, crit multi or necro pen as second affix but that's gonna take some time
mana helm/chest/belt corrupts

I would say in this order?

[delicate heart]

Keep seeing conflicting info on should I be gunning for % mana rolls on body and helmet? and is their a defacto best body for the build?

[abstract summit]

depends if we are talking mapping or uber

[delicate heart]

yet to do uber atm but prolly only worried ab that dont think ive died in a map in forever

[abstract summit]

ye i meant damage wise as well. for body you can really go a number of options, portent is good but im personally not a huge fan cause we dont have enough suffixes to really max out all the benefits. still, good option

pale ox is also nice if you are running skin boots

[weak atlas]

When I’m looking here I need to reroll until I find unique boots?

[abstract summit]

woven flesh is aight, really whatever you can get with 2LP and a nice corrupt gonna work

[delicate heart]

ill just keep my null for now then and not worry ab it

[sly forge]

@wintry flame actually, cold mage is not much stronger than fire mage

fire mage has 175% added spell effectiveness

cold only has 150% and deal 20% more damage

[abstract summit]

ye totes fine. for uber you def need to go full glass cannon, double mana slams and mana corrupts, 2LP Julras or 1 LP with a giga corrupt. so that's something you can start working on in the meantime but the t7 slams and full double mana idols are lower hanging fruits

tbf you could also just not do mana version for uber but this is something im not authorized to share, so maybe wait acouple days for a new variant to pop up lol

[limpid mural]

but cold mages can freeze 😄

[sly forge]

dont care since they 1 shot enemies anyway

[gritty drum]

anyone know how good twisted heart is at keeping you on low life? I kinda want to capitalize on those low life nodes on warlock but don't really feel like using exsanguinous

[weak atlas]

So what do I do now? Just do the events and conditions and I get the reward or do I need to do something else?

[noble flame]

You fulfill the event with the condition (Arena T3) and it'll drop 8 unique boots. Hopefully one of those is what you're looking for.

[weak atlas]

Okay I guess that valon is a boss in the black sun as I go through those monos?

[noble flame]

The lenses can help refine the conditions and events to match your preferred play

[weak atlas]

Ah

[noble flame]

Arena here refers to the challenge arena. I forgot the town name though

[weak atlas]

Can I use a lens on it to chance it from arena to something else?

[noble flame]

if you right click an arena key it'll tell you where it is

[lost gale]

no, you use the lenses before taking prophecies

[sly forge]

@wintry flame non HS mages are also way better farmer

due to firing multiple bolts at a time

[weak atlas]

Understood tyvm

I’ll do the conditions ty:)

[noble flame]

My preferred lens setup is "Reduced mono, reduced not mono, and whatever you're looking for"

[night hemlock]

Pretty standard

[noble flame]

I wish I had learned it sooner lol

[lost gale]

that leaves you with a few basic conditions like killing bosses, killing rares, killing exiled mages etc

all of which you can easily do while just running monoliths

[weak atlas]

Great.. who sells the lenses? The snake lady doesn’t sell anything?

[noble flame]

vendor in front of the waypoint

[weak atlas]

Tyvm

I see I see.. do the lens get used up or just sit there in the left hand corner?

[noble flame]

They sit there. It's basically equipment

Anyone know why Summon Blood Specter has an area tag? Does it affect anything? The actual minion only has a melee attack

[night hemlock]

Does the melee attack have an area?

Doesn't seem like it

Maybe a bug

[elder imp]

FINALLY 975 exiled mages later and a stagfering 18 hours later i have "A MAD ALCHEMIST LADDLE" 1 and its 2 lp on top of that bless that 975th exiled mage

[limpid mural]

Corrupt it 😄

[elder imp]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-3425669563334334864

[eternal lion]

Hello, you mean Harvest ?

Because it’s the case.

[wintry flame]

Yeah they are good, idk how they compare to just doing a normal DoT/Possess setup

[weak atlas]

How/where do I fjnd Rahyeh in black sun timeline?

[pearl snow]

Is that just Pryomancer Mana Stacking?

[pearl snow]

Im going to shift away from single HS clear soon so I can update you lmao but its crazy to single Single HS hit for like 600k Crits without any flat spell damage added from anything besides mana stacking

[wintry flame]

I imagine you can also get a lot more cast speed now. I have a setup where you take the -50% crit node in Dread shade for the attack speed, put a shade on each mage, build 200% crit and can run infernal if you want. They should have give cast speed with Logi, Ravens, and such

[pearl snow]

Yeah that Dread Shade node plus Rivens is great

I was thinking I’m just gunna run Soulfire to stay as fire damage since my gear is setup like that but. I imagine Possess is way better

Less requirements less point starved

Plus Damned from Dread Shade

My issue is Mages randomly die on DoT setup from Dread Shade

[wintry flame]

Die from Dread shade how?

[weak atlas]

Does anyone how I can find Rahyeh in the black sun timeline?

[pearl snow]

Sounds like the boss name? Do the boss exho

[weak atlas]

What will it look like I don’t see it ?

[pearl snow]

Its hard for me to tell but Im running Zombies which automate my dread shade so im never manually casting it. But sometimes a mage just dies (about 1 every echo or 2) and I have to resummon I always assumed it was because their leech wasnt high from DoT

[pearl snow]

If you have timeline stability it will let you run the echo bottom middle of the ui

[pearl snow]

See your Quest Echo button? Go to the Game Guide bottom left and read about Echos

In normal monoliths its 2x Quest Echos then the Boss Echo

[weak atlas]

Tyvm!

[wintry flame]

Hmm that’s weird idk what it might be😔

[limpid kestrel]

Is rip blood lich a lot better than rip blood warlock? is it worth swapping to if im currently warlock

[elder imp]

depends on your playstyle in my opinion

[limpid kestrel]

lich more aggresive playstyle?

[tender ridge]

yeah that's effectively 180 ADE vs 175 ADE. I guess the benefit of going cold crit is that you get full value out of lich's scorn conversion when you have "minion cold damage"

[cyan python]

guys im playing harvest cold lich atm and i rolled on my gloves immunity to chill so i was thinking about swaping my old helm for the bone one for the sake of int + dex my dps went higher but i was wondering if u guys think its good idea

[tender ridge]

really wish I could redemption just the suffixes

[muted mist]

Boneclamour is fantastic for the build, probably my preference, but they're both good.

[weak atlas]

Hi! I’m a harvest flay lich atm..What am I looking for with my idol altar? What should I be looking for to ensure it’s good.. this one always confused me a bit. Ty!

[plush loom]

Does self bone curse from profane veil not work?

[wind goblet]

never played necro before, much less minion, do having something like +minion melee/spell damage increase their DoTs?

[plush loom]

itll increase specific dot skills they use, but not ailments.

[wind goblet]

so like it will increase the mages fireball damage but not the ignites damage from the fireball?

[wintry flame]

correct

[calm dome]

Bones of the ancestral pact seems like a lot of ward gen if you can reliably proc it every second. I see no one use it though

[wintry flame]

it's good but it's buff only applies to a single minion

[calm dome]

It's a build around for sure but out of most primordial uniques, I hardly see people mention it as a BiS for any builds

[noble flame]

It's tough to give up the +skills on some of these other items

[calm dome]

The ward gen is what stands out to me to be honest

It has +2 to minions

Maxroll of 123% of your endurance threshold as ward per second is how I read that mod

If you can proc ancestral pack every second

[noble flame]

hmm... maybe I'll have to try it on my Blood Wraith setup. Would have to toss the shield, but Foot of the Mountain gives me more threshold than life

[wintry flame]

yeah it's good and paired well with uh wall of nothing body armor

it used to be used in storm crows idk

[old hull]

It's a lot more popular in primalist

[obtuse quest]

You can't 'proc' an Aura.

[plush loom]

not proccing an aura, its just what the node says

[obtuse quest]

"Self Bone Curse" Generally means you have the aura version of bone curse, which Desecrated can't trigger.

[plush loom]

so bone curse on you just means around you instead?

[obtuse quest]

Well, it says "Cast Bone Curse when you enter.." and not "on" in the desc text.

[plush loom]

well i seem to have misunderstood then., thanks

[obtuse quest]

It just centers the cast on you, doesn't mean it affects you.

[slate warren]

hey and sorry, can you check the pm again, please...

[sly forge]

Hmm for fire mage

We need only 4 skills

Chaos bolt, summon mage, aod, shade

Idk if I should consider summon wraith as the last skill

How much dmg to the wraith contribute

[sly forge]

Problem with cold crit is that it needs snapshot

If I dont use snapshot I would have -2 mages, less flat dmg affix from items (since affixes from 2h weapon is way better than one hand weapon), also less mana since the 2h weapon has 2 good mana affixes

@wintry flame for the final additional skill

Which do you think is better

2 non-decaying wraith

Or 8 decaying flame wraith?

Or maybe I will stick with mages only then

The wraith might only contributes negligible dmg

[wintry flame]

to buff them you have infernal shade for cast speed, rip blood for cast speed and a bit more dmg, or transplant for bone armor

if you were cold you could do harvest on chaos hit to get cold res shred but eh

[sly forge]

Problem is infernal shade deals quite a lot of dmg to them

[wintry flame]

can do harvest for some more crit chance and 5% more dmg

if you take the blind node

blind fury and build 200% crit

[sly forge]

Let's see

I wish I could buff them with cast speed in infernal shade

@wintry flame for non-snapshot, how much do you think cold version is better?

[wintry flame]

idk which is better tbh

[sly forge]

Tbh it's 180 vs 175 more dmg

They are too close

Like whichever version will all be good

[wintry flame]

they made them roughly the same damage starting a while ago, but cold gets freeze, so for clear it's better

[sly forge]

Fire has more sustain

Due to the more hp node

[wintry flame]

you can probs grab it still I think cold overwrites fire

[sly forge]

In clearing?

[wintry flame]

no I mean the hp node

[sly forge]

Ah yeaj

Forgot

[wintry flame]

like cryomancer get summoned if you take both pyro and cryo

[sly forge]

Damn why not fire overwrites cold

The 20% dmg is good for fire

But yeah

With non snapshot

Both might be equal in bossing

You can choose the element you like I guess

Now for necrotic HS

No aod so I wonder how much dmg it would deal

And must it be necrotic?

[wintry flame]

possess doesn't convert

[sly forge]

Oh

Too bad

But no aod hurts a lot

[wintry flame]

yeah it's just for clear, so AoD isn't really needed plus you can build Necrotic res

[sly forge]

Hmm

Skeletal mages suddenly has many builds

Now for ranking

Crit HS DK>= Abom> blood wraith> Pyro/Cyro> Flame Wraith>Golem

[tender ridge]

@old hull we risked the corrupt and it didn't work out

[old hull]

RIP

Hit a wall with the damage yet?

[tender ridge]

the single target is lacking

but the clear is fantastic

for omen windows I just sit in the middle and hold right click

the missing damage from soul feast bleeds is really apparent in single target when you're applying upwards of 600 bleeds

i think in my christmas land I'd want the DoT and Area corrupt

just lean hard into the absurd AoE of soul feast

[weak atlas]

What’s the best way to get the prophesy currency?

[tender ridge]

just play. you get it faster at higher corruptions

[weak atlas]

Tyvm! How do I up my corruption:):)

[tender ridge]

you go far out to the sides in your monolith timelines and eventually you'll see a shade of orobyss pyramid. I can't remember what hte echo is called. you kill him and it resets your echo web and adds corruption based on the number of times you've killed the boss of that timeline plus a flat bonus based on how far out the shade was

if you're not into empowered monos yet I wouldn't bother trying to do it. normal timelines have a corruption cap of 50

they're also not level 100 areas like empowered timelines are

[weak atlas]

Tyvm! I’ll watch a video on this also, I appreciate it

[weak atlas]

If I cancel a prophesy I don’t get the currency back right?

[azure dawn]

can you flame whip stun lock uber?

[pearl snow]

It used to easily. With some shock chance it probably still does

[old hull]

Well, that's good - yeah single target is something I haven't been able to solve yet on soul feast. Maybe someday someone will or we'll get a new tech

[old hull]

Right

[calm dome]

Hmmm. I understand now why Bones of the Ancestral Pack is not common on Acolyte. If only it worked with Wraithlord

[obtuse quest]

I'm surprised that isn't ovbious from reading wraithlord's behaviour.

[barren hare]

anyone know why my resistance is being lowered when I turn on Aura of Decay - I have the node to increase it by 60%

[calm dome]

You and enemies

[barren hare]

ahh shit ok

[calm dome]

Anyone knows if Bone Shatter converts if you go different element as golem?

[pearl snow]

dont think so

[calm dome]

Alright, I think I will test out Bone Shatter Blood Golem with bones catalyst

[obtuse quest]

Bone Shatter is Bone Golem exclusive

Other golems get their special skill instead (Fire Golems has Fire Aura Etc.)

[calm dome]

oh so I can't use the Blood Golem node?

[obtuse quest]

You lose shatter if you convert golem, yes.

You're free to test it out if they changed it.

But you 100% lose consistency for bone Shatter since you lose the base 15% chance

[calm dome]

do minions reflect damage to you if you hit them with friendly fire abilities and can they leech off that reflect?

and does the reflect on you count as a hit

[obtuse quest]

Oh that's the funniest question I've heard for a while

Why don't you find out cause I sure don't know

[blissful isle]

im trying to go the flay lich build, as a relatively new pllayer how would i go about farming the uniques?

[pearl snow]

find a build or use a leveling build that can function without the requirements of flay first basically

just look for the source of specific drops etc on either LastEpochTools or Tunklab if you dont know where to get it or it isnt shown in whichever guide you are using

[sly forge]

right now

I wonder which is better

necrotic mortar or profane mages

and for these two, death knight is the best choice right?

since they are also necrotic-based, they don't cast any other spells and you can get 20% more dmg node from cyromancer

[pearl snow]

Dks are a very strong choice yes. And also melee range so its easier to integrat e them with other stuff

[sly forge]

I just wonder how there dmg is

since we have no necrotic aod

but the added damage effect of profane is greater

and not sure about their farming capacity compared to pyro/cyromancer

mages now becomes insanely OP and we suddenly have many builds for them now

too bad none of them appeared on maxroll

[pearl snow]

DKs can get strong clear via HS

You just need mana and cdr plus the extra skill spec

[sly forge]

hmm

I use HS for bossing

it has average clear

well at least it's fire crit HS

for HS clear do you mean necrotic dot version?

[pearl snow]

Necrotic DoT or if you run Soulfire it can be fire. But its not worth not having a relic for fire honestly

Fire is mainly for flavor and AoD

[pearl snow]

Ressurecting this from the dead, I was able to confirm its just Dread Shades passive hp degen. Sometime they will be closest to my mouse instead of another Zombie and they get Dread Shade autocasted on them

[sly forge]

Btw @pearl snow have you tried zombie warlock?

I wonder if we should follow maxroll or try a 2h weapon

[sly forge]

Hell no soulfire

Need nest relic to get insane minion cdr

[sick belfry]

for manaflay, do we bother with the mana affix on weapon slams?

or just stack mana somewhere else and get critmulti/armor shred/necro dmg%

after the double flat ofc

[tacit plinth]

You want mana as a corrupted affix,in weapons you get flat spell combo and crit multi as affixes

[pearl snow]

No I dislike the playstyle

[pearl snow]

Yeah its not worth lol just an option

[teal topaz]

it's funny that my bleed build takes awhile to kill 2 types of enemies. bosses, and blues. Blues don't trigger marrow shards from rip blood, which makes them take oddly long to kill if they're the last enemy standing. Still not that long, but longer than yellows, which amuses me

[obtuse quest]

Isn't that an actual issue, since magic mobs generally are as 'strong' as trash mobs.

[teal topaz]

So I've been running Thorn Slinger for forever because 1. I'm a glutton for more skill points and I'm all physical and 2. it has bleed chance. But, my potions are essentially worthless. I run all the stuff for sitting at no health and having lots of ward, so if I use a potion then I'm missing less health and therefore gaining less ward per second, so it's only good for a very brief "oh shit." I tend to see potion altering effects on belts. So, any belts I should be looking out for/in some way aiming for?

[teal topaz]

Eh, I mean, they can't kill me and lone blues aren't really worth stopping to fight solo, so if I care at all I just keep running and stop to kill them when they have enough friends to trigger the "hit 3 or more targets" aspect of the marrow shards trigger.

[obtuse quest]

For potion altering effects not on a belt that could be useful to you:

[teal topaz]

And again, they don't actually take long to kill, just longer than it feels like they should compared to yellows considering they're supposed to be weaker than yellows, but due to the quirk of the marrow shards trigger, they're slightly beefier than it feels like they should.

[obtuse quest]

For belts that would be helpful for low life:

[teal topaz]

Hmmmm. "You have no health leech." I don't know if it's actually effective because I'm not following a build and it can be difficult to tell where all my damage is coming from, but I run a few sources of leech alongside Scornful Blood from Lich so that my leech instead hurts enemies.

I assume "You have no health leech" would make that effect and any associated nodes giving me leech useless. Which I mean, isn't necessarily that bad as long as it isn't stealthily being a major source of my damage, means I can invest the points into more defenses or other damage sources.

[obtuse quest]

Assuming Ailments are your main source of damage, only generic leech would actually contribute to much damage.

[teal topaz]

I looked at those and thought "oooo, Strands of Souls looks great" and then realized it's level 82 and I'm low 60s still, lol. Chains would be nice but I don't think I've had one drop for me yet.

[teal topaz]

As a bleed build I assume a good amount of my damage is the bleeding and not impacts or leech, but it certainly feels like my rip blood and marrow shard impacts are doing a ton of damage.
I assume there's a planner/tool somewhere I could plug my build into and see where my damage is theoretically all coming from

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[teal topaz]

I asked a little here as for which skills I should use, but otherwise have just been going with what feels right

[obtuse quest]

Import button on the top left

[teal topaz]

Thanks, though I don't see a way to see damage anywhere. There's the calculations tab, but it doesn't support many skills.

[obtuse quest]

Welcome to hell! Pen and paper is your only friend here.

LETools does help by merging all your % damages and gives you a base to work with.
Example: It can tell you how much damage each bleed stack is worth:

[teal topaz]

Ah, gotcha

Ok, I guess this is more a question of how bleed works. The chart shows bleed damage. Is that per second, or how much it deals over its duration? So with no duration increase it's 3 seconds. If it said 99, is that 99 per second, or 33 per second for 3 seconds?

nvm, that info was in game. that's how much it deals over 3 seconds

[obtuse quest]

Per stack over it's full duration

[teal topaz]

So I've done some math and.... unless I'm missing something, my damage is a fairly event split between impact and bleed. By my math, once I get going on a tanky enough enemy, such as a boss, they're taking around 7.3k dps from bleeding(I think with my duration, I tend to max out at around 90-100 bleeding stacks). Rip blood is 3.3k dps, fissure is 7k, marrow shards is 6.2k. So if every rip blood cast against this theoretical boss is triggering marrow shards, I'm doing about 10k dps from impact and around 7k from bleeding.
As for leech converted to damage, not a damn clue. That's different math, lol

Ok, so again, unless I'm missing something, my leech to damage is doing almost nothing, lol. I get about 7% leech and iirc it doesn't work on dots, so if I'm going off my rip blood/marrow shards dps and there's only a single target, my leech is about 700 per second. Pretty sure those are just wasted skill points. Welp. Good to know.

[glacial sigil]

hey guys im a noob and wanna play blood rip - should i play warlock or lich?

[sly forge]

hmm

I want to try one necrotic minion build

I wonder which might be better

profane oblation

or necrotic dot hs

@wintry flame I wonder, does necrotic dot HS still does a lot of dmg?

and how does necrotic HS interacts with zombie?

[gritty drum]

is staff a melee weapon? This is like exsanguinous but better

though im guessing a staff isn't a melee weapon since there are no other two-handed weapons that would need this kind of wording

[old hull]

Yes, all weapons except bows are melee weapons

[gritty drum]

w-woah

im wearing that shit in which case

[lost gale]

that won't be better than exsang unless you also have 20% gloves and last steps

the % of missing health gained as ward matters a lot

even with the good health and lost regen

[gritty drum]

the extra health is pretty nice, im planning on using last step and 5% from the acolyte tree

i feel like extra armour and less damage taken adds up especially with the warlock tree

that and to be honest im just bored of using exsang

[sick belfry]

right/left for manaflay?

left seem so juicy but that armor shred lets me cap armor shred for like 80% more damage

[obtuse quest]

Can you cap crit with right?

[weak atlas]

Hi! I am doing a prophesy and it says "death of omen" how/where is that?

[sick belfry]

I think so

at least for the CBs

[obtuse quest]

Omen is the new purple glass-like mechanic.

[weak atlas]

Hmm where do I see/find that on the monoliths map?

[obtuse quest]

Quite literally a purple circle with an "I" on it.

[weak atlas]

Like the 3 chain omen tier thing? Where I have do one after the other?

[obtuse quest]

No, the big purple circle you sometimes see on the minimp

[sick belfry]

it's not generally visible on the mono map itself

just like you can't see nemesis/beast before entering

but some of the chains guarantee an omen spawning

also one of the nodes on the weaver tree gives you almost 50% chance for a wandering omen on any map

[wintry flame]

Yeah, idk I played a necrotic DoT version and it was nice for clear you could spec into speed and range, go zombies, and such

[sly forge]

btw profane mage is good now

A+ to S tier with min-maxed gear

[wintry flame]

Yeah, it’s great

I’m pretty sure any flavor of skeletal mages is A tier at least lmao

[sly forge]

1 sec dummy kill time slower than pyromancer

btw

how does zombie interact with necrotic HS?

[wintry flame]

You stack mana

Zombies get damned chance

Helps flesh out single target

[sly forge]

so need to manually cast zombie?

[wintry flame]

Yupp

Mana is tough

[sly forge]

unfortunately this build cannot stack vitality idols

because I need minion cdr idols

[wintry flame]

Possess lasts 1.5 secs

[sly forge]

?

so I dont need minion cdr?

since cooldown of HS is 6 sec

5 minion cds gives 1.2 sec HS cooldown

[brazen wigeon]

if you have death knights and take cryomancer's frost lich node, do death knights get 20% more damage?

[sly forge]

yes

[arctic grotto]

i have been thinking about this as well, 20% multiplicative dmg is significant since skelly mage lacks damage bonus nodes

[sly forge]

@wintry flame necrotic dot deals less dps than profane

[wintry flame]

on ST yeah?

[sly forge]

what is ST?

[wintry flame]

single target

[sly forge]

yes

[wintry flame]

possess isn't for single target haha

it's more of a lazy clear setup

[sly forge]

to think maxroll archived profane mage when they are most viable

[wintry flame]

they archived archmage

which is just worse than army now

[sly forge]

but they could change the whole build to army

[obtuse quest]

Thaat wouldn't be an archmage setup anymore.

[night hemlock]

Yeah

[quick tulip]

@pearl snow https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Poggybear/character/WeePoggy

Build is coming together finally I think? 🤔

[lost gale]

the thing is the pyromancer's fire spell has more ADE than the cryomancer's cold spell so it's not 20% more it's about 5% more I think

[pearl snow]

Nice I think so

[brazen wigeon]

does this increase's golem's regular attack dmg or only special abilities?

[obtuse quest]

The 'regular' damage is a melee, so no.

[cosmic wagon]

How hard can get it be to get madness and rampancy???????????????

Let me finish my lich already.

[night hemlock]

Still sane Exile Traveller?

[brazen wigeon]

is golem's AI bugged? dude is often just standing in place, doing nothing

[willow verge]

@wintry flame how can i summon minions to put the infernal shades. My abom keep devouring them.

[night hatch]

Do anyone know if this skillpoint is worth it? A slowly decreasing spell damage up to 100% increase seems worth less than the 'Reaper's Curse'.

unless I misunderstand how useful it is

[wintry flame]

T-Rex, Abom, 6 Volatile Zombies or use bone prison in bone curse

[brazen wigeon]

any1 tried reflect mages with this yet?

[pearl snow]

I think Zeckar did briefly above and some others confirmed that it triggers a HS cast but utilizing the players stats not minions

[pearl snow]

Increases with stacks not decreases. Longer you stay its higher increased

[night hatch]

yeah, but I meant as in that it only increase up to 100% increase in spell damage, over like 50 seconds. But wouldnt it be better to take the immediate 100% increased damage from Reaper's Curse

[solid sonnet]

Have you tried profane mages on Uber? With all the mana stacking, how are you stacking defenses?

[pearl snow]

He did Uber in like 2mins I think he said

[solid sonnet]

That's awesome! I'm just curious how he keeps his character alive lol

[lost gale]

he's testing with 4lp 4xt7 plus a good corruption gear so he's gonna have two T7 suffixes contributing to survivability in every slot more or less

just seeing what each build can do at its maximum potential

[nocturne viper]

on mana flay lich, are we dealing mostly damage from chaos bolts, and is it mosrly cold damage since cold conversion

[smoky silo]

would you guys suggest rip blood or mana flay ? for a balance between bossing and farm speed

[teal topaz]

level 73, first exsanguinous drop. I think I've seen 3 shrouds of obscurity drop, first exsanguinous

[abstract summit]

CBs are like 90% of your damage, and it is "mostly" whatever flat you put on your weapon. traditionally necro

[cyan python]

guys

is this not better

for

[abstract summit]

adaptive damage is split between base types tho so it's always a mix. the popular version is ~80% necro ~20% fire/cold

[cyan python]

harvest cold flay lich?

i have perfect omnis aswell

[lost gale]

how is it mostly cold? Don't you use those flat necrotic melee & spell damage affixes for a big chunk of flat? that typed damage won't convert

[nocturne viper]

call of morditas

[old hull]

That only converts half of the base damage and half of your untyped spell damage

[nocturne viper]

thnx

[abstract summit]

that said there could be a mostly cold version of the build with less flat but a ton of pen from AOTD, it's just as far as im aware nobody really did the math whether it's actually worth lol

(prob not)

[tacit plinth]

Mana flay is a necrotic build pretty much the cold part you just ignore

[feral ibex]

someone know where i can drop mercurial foot of the montain boots and wall of nothing of the ox ? is there spot to farm them ?

[old hull]

That sounds like legendary items, they won't drop that way. You need to get foot of the mountain and wall of nothing (both boss drops from different places) with legendary potential on them, and then craft them with an exalted item that has the stat you want on it.

[feral ibex]

yeah but where get theme that's the question ;-;

[old hull]

You can find where almost anything drops on LE Tools, for example here's foot of the mountain: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMoVgZiA
Also for foot of the mountain, since it's a dungeon boss drop, you have the option of adding dungeon packs to your echoes to get drops (node near bottom of your Weaver tree).

[feral ibex]

oh didn't know this tool thank's a lot and have a good game sorry for disturb

[old hull]

Any time, good luck on the grind 😁

[mellow haven]

Is Flay/Chaos Bolt mana stacker a legit build? Does it work?

[tacit plinth]

One of the Strongest builds last season still s tier build this season

[pearl snow]

Yeah its probably one of if not the strongest aco build

[tacit plinth]

For me definitely strongest cause it can do anything extremely well

Bossing,mapping,endgame all S Tier

[edgy zealot]

Did they fix Corrupted form or it's still bugged?

[lost gale]

someone trustworthy was saying yesterday that it works fine offline but not online

he tested it both ways

[edgy zealot]

I wonder why is that, the game client is the same

weird stuff

[lost gale]

which might explain why devs say it's working and players have been saying it's bugged, if they test it offline

[grim jewel]

Do yall know if the rip blood lich or mana flay lich can push higher corruption?

[lost gale]

mana flay probably, but I think it's harder to gear for

[dusty onyx]

I pushed to 1k corruption with not so great gear last season with rip blood lich so I assume it's not too bad.

[raw surge]

does anybody wanna help me brainstorm ideas for my build? i got a new item i wanna use but it tanks my resistances but im not sure where i can add them without losing everything else ive built up.

[obtuse magnet]

whats the best class for acolyte

atm i play flame whip warlock

but i feel that i am very gear depended so i can only use some specepic gear for the build to work

[pearl snow]

That just depends on the build.
Necro has Abom and Crit HS Mages
Lich has Mana Flay
Warlock has Flame Whip

Everything is gear specific honestly, though Necro builds are usually quicker to put together at first

[obtuse magnet]

i did that to lvl up

and switched

but like what shuld i do now shuld i just farm corrupsion at 1 place to the 320 ish

and get the loot on the way

[pearl snow]

I would assume the testing / dev branch isn’t truly offline however who actually knows besides the devs lol

[obtuse magnet]

this is my build atm

[raw surge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJW0E6ZM This is my build. The Amulet, Weapon, and Legends Entwined are the only things I refuse to take off really. I would like to keep my Helmet on as well, but if i can replace stats on items elsewhere im willing too. The 1LP on my staff is going to be ~370% necrotic damage.

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Acolyte (23) / Lich (7) / Warlock (80)

General:

▸ Health: 2,913, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 211.99, Regen: 18.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 223%, Regen: 161/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 17 Dex / 81 Int / 6 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 131% / 76% / 92% / 133% / 53% / 300% / 94%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 700
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (2,984)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 13% (101)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Rip Blood / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

So you are doing Physical Converted Flame Whips?

[obtuse magnet]

yea

[raw surge]

minus all my resistances by 25 due to mark for death

[pearl snow]

Yeah after pushing to 300 and killing Normal Aberroth thereis really just whatever you want to do. 500cr is the “soft cap” for maximum drop rates and makes Uberroth Available via the Woven Echo

[noble flame]

The All Resist Blessing would give you 20% back to help mitigate that. You'd lose some increased damage, but you can probably pick that up in a variety of ways

[pearl snow]

^ is usually the easiest way

[raw surge]

I also plan on (haha) farming for a red ring which would help. I may farm it before i switch to this weapon.

[obtuse magnet]

so basicly there is not much to do now other than farm for cr and find better gear ?

on the way

[pearl snow]

I feel like dropping health suffixes too could help but up tobyou

[pearl snow]

Yeah, Welcome to endgame

[obtuse magnet]

thx rahrhahrah

[pearl snow]

We cant see how well geared you actually are but I bet theres a lot to improve

[raw surge]

i have like 0 source of health besides that

especially when i swap the relic

[pearl snow]

Aco is really bad at just straight health tanking

It would be a pain for you to swap but there is plenty of options

[obtuse magnet]

what is the best way to farm cr then? ?

[raw surge]

I will get more suvivability when i start using this weapon, ill get an extra 160 ward per second from the torment

i already have 3 on me at all times

I feel like id be alright if i had more armor/ res

Im currently on abberoth and keep dying to his last phase

[barren hare]

Is there a good way to scale Marrow Shards to do great dps with crits not DoTs

[obtuse magnet]

what time line would be best to farm for me as flame whip warlock

[obtuse magnet]

would you happen to have any recommendation

[nocturne viper]

for mana flay build, why do we take Reaper, does the dodge really help?

[pearl snow]

There are so many reasons for reaper not just dodge

[pearl snow]

Probably either Reign of Dragons for the Twisted Heart relic or whichever one spawns Uniques of your desired type as an echo reward

[pearl snow]

Always travel farthest from the center and make sure to kill boss for the Gazes so that shades give more cr when killed

Game Guide / youtube can help you with more specifics

[obtuse magnet]

i went with the winter land said it was good to find the ring i am looking for

[pearl snow]

On average my Aco builds are like 1500hp and anywhere between 3k to 6k ward

I rarely health tank especially with no block chance

[pearl snow]

Yeah honestly any timeline is valid to farm

[obtuse magnet]

byt thx

[ember fractal]

I've got a couple

Questions

1. I'm slowly trying to make better idols for myself. What's the correct procedure? Correct Affixes > Weaver Altar > Corrupt?

• Side question: what does corrupt do exactly? Or more specifically, what can it do? Because if it's just "rerandomize everything" why even bother? What do I aim for when corrupting?

2. Can Weaver items be imprinted with exalted T7 affixes by any means? Or just "drop a milion of them and pray that one unlocks exactly what you need"? I keep seeing builds with perfect affixes on Weaver items which feels a bit impossible.
3. Is it just me or is Harbinger of Ash like way stronger than other Harbingers?

[tender ridge]

1. If you're MG, buy the base idol or whatever is good enough. If you're CoF, idol prophecies are you friend to dump out as many idols as possible. You idol altar might limit you to a certain number of weaver, heretical(enchanted), or corrupted idols so double check before you apply those modifiers.
   1a. Corruption has a 75% for a positive outcome, 25% for negative. Based on what type of item, the outcomes will differ. You can look them up on tunklabs iirc
2. No. The answer is "drop a million and pray" if you're looking for a very specific affix on a weaver item. There's a node on the weaver tree that makes weaver items drop more frequently. Somewhere in the S-SW area of the tree
3. Ash is kinda annoying because of all the DoT circles he puts out. I have more problems with the lady harbinger variants though with how much she moves around.

[ember fractal]

1. Ok for starters... was my procedure correct or wrong? Farm correct base (with correct affixes) > Make it Weaver at altar to get 2 more affixes > Corrupt it?

• And then... what does positive and negative mean? Loosing the one perfect roll affix I care about and geting 3 perfect ones I don't care about might feel positive... but it's not. So what's the definition here? What are my options? Why am I corrupting at all?

2. Well, I only use one specific item, which is boss-dropped. Staff of Lachesis. Does Weaver drop rate even affect this?
3. I'm on a pet build. Other Harbingers tend to ignore me and fight pets, as they should, while Ash constantly double-teleports to me and timing two dodges/teleports in a row is sometimes really hard with all the visual clutter and game that is 5x more zoomed in than it should be.

[old hull]

Positive generally means it maximizes your rolls within range or it adds an extra (corrupted) affix. Negative generally makes the item unusable or worthless.

[tender ridge]

I guess I wasn't clear enough.

1. It was both correct and wrong, depending on whether or not you have restrictions on how many of each idol type you can use. At the absolute most basic, you need to find the base idol. If you can equip enough heretical idols, you enchant it at the weaver altars. If you can equip enough corrupted idols, you corrupt it.
   1a. I literally told you. You can look up the outcomes online. It's random and the table is per item type.
2. Nope, doesn't affect it. Good luck.
3. In my experience bosses generally don't target your minions unless they specifically generate extra threat or taunt, like a bone golem or bear might. Usually if they're dying it's due to unavoidable splash damage of some kind

[quiet seal]

@ember fractal A few extra tips: Idols can both be re-enchanted at the idol altar, to reroll the weaver affix(es) they get, and they can be reforged too, which removes any weaver enchant, and rerolls the base prefix and suffix of the item, whilst keeping the same idol type you used to begin with. So: 1. drop idol with desired prefix/suffix 2. reroll weaver enchants till happy 3. Decide if you can potentially lose the idol to a corruption fail and risk getting a bonus.

Side note on corruptions - the good kind can do 3 things in my experience. 1. Add a specific corrupted affix that is only available via a corruption. These are typically extreemely strong for certain builds, or generally great ie. +1 all skill and mana on amulet. These can rollup to T7. 2. Add any applicable affx to that item that it could normall drop with, so just a standard affix type, but this can be up to T7. 3. Set all affix values (including implicits) to their maximum value.

[ember fractal]

1. Sadly the only idol terms i know is "normal idol" (either class or generic), "weaver idol" (the thing you get after puttint the "normal idol" inside an altar in cemetery, or can drop randomly) or "corrupted idol" (never did them myself yet, only seem them drop from omens). When you "heretic idol" or "can equip enough" I have no idea what you're talking about.

• Long story short I have several "normal idols" with pet cooldawn + %hp idols, tall, class specific, 3 height that I want to improve with more good affixes or improve the two important ones I got there.

2. Thanks. Sadface though.
3. My minions are basically immortal. And yes, I have two golems with max points in aggro generation node. And yet Ash Harbinger still targets me with his teleports/charges, all the bloody time.

[ember fractal]

I can reroll just the weaver affixes while regular ones stay untouched? Thanks, didn't know it but I love it!!!

What about idol corruptions specifically though? Anything good lurks there or it's just RNG for the sake of RNG? I'd love +1 all skill in an idol but I don't think that's a thing. If you can link website that lists all the corruption options specifically, that'd be neat too 🙂

Thanks again!

[tender ridge]

The idol altars that drop from omen windows can put limits on your equipable idols. Heretical idols are the class idols you get out of the weaver enchanter. It says as much in the name after you enchant it. Weaver idols are specifically the 1 and 2 slot idols that drop with weaver affixes

If whatever idol altar you're supposed to use imposes a limit on how many of the different kinds of idols you can equip, then you need to check before enchanting everything.

In general you want to just throw your idols into the thing for an enchantment and keep fishing for your BIS, but due to the new altars it's possible you don't want everything enchanted.

[old hull]

Granted, it's pretty rare you'd want regular class idols on an altar that limits hereticals

if it limits hereticals, that just means you want that altar to also roll a lot of omen idols lol

[tender ridge]

Yeah but it's information worth having so one doesn't get confused as to why they can't equip all of their fancy enchanted idols

[quiet seal]

I use https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/ but there is also tunklabs? Not sure on the link, but it's very good from what I hear.

If you want to check specficially what would be available for a corrupted affix on an item (bearing in mind that is only a potential outcome from corrupting), the easiest way I have found for me, is to use the build planner. So in your case, set up an acolyte class, spawn a 1x3 idol in the idol box, and click on corrupted affix tab: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ3ZKgrj

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

None

General:

▸ Health: 1,185, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 104.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 8%, Regen: 4/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 4 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 3% / 3%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 237

Used skills:

None

[ember fractal]

Ok, now I get it.

I was calling "Weaver Idols" everything that has Weaver affixes. Now I see that the word "Heretical" gets added to the item name... that I never ever read xD

So corrupted Idols = Omen Idols? And I see the limit on my altar, currently got 1. Which btw. makes me ask another thing:

• Does "max refracted slots, shape that benefits you the most anf increased effects of refracted affixes" is the best goal for an altar? I dropped metric ton of those and never found anything even remotely better than that combination. In most cases it's some BS bonuses per refracted slot.

Can altars be rorolled in any way btw.?

[quiet seal]

altars are not, um alterable

an idol can either be corrupted, or not. What you are talking about is a new idol 'type' called Omen idols

[ember fractal]

The only thing better I can imagine is better rolls on same affixes and more refracted slots...

[quiet seal]

They are powerful as they offer much better values for a 1x3 or 3x1 along with more options for affixes, plus they can have some powerful corruptions (I believe some are restricted to omen idols only, but perhaps someone here can confirm)

So if you are running minions, a powerful Omen Idol corruption would be '+15% minion critical damage'. So the base altars always limit you to 1, as of the power they offer, but you can get the affix to boost the number, up to a total of 5.

[quiet seal]

Others may offer insight, but I would say what's best is very build dependant

But to be fair, you can;t really go wrong with an 'improves effectiveness' affix

[old hull]

Corrupted is anything that has this on its tooltip. Omen idols are always corrupted, but you can corrupt any idol.
What you want depends on your build. Different altar shapes allow different setups. Generically, you might want to look for really strong buffs to refracted idols or large boosts to maximum omen idols, but some builds may not care about either... like if you want to stack mana, you may just care about a high roll of +mana per corrupted idol and just stack a bunch of corrupted 1x1 idols.

[obtuse quest]

Dodge? Do you just not register the kill threshold part?

[sly forge]

39 sec only with max t7 gears

[sly forge]

need at least 3 lp items for this build to stack both mana and defenses

[tender ridge]

or literally any of the offensive boosts/mobility that it gives

[obtuse quest]

Okay, to be fair, I assume he's talking about the passive node, not the skill

Beacuse who the hell takes the dodge node in reaperform

[tender ridge]

i completely forgot there was even a reaper named node

[noble flame]

Alright, I've sent a bug report in with videos for the Destruction Engine bug. Maybe we'll see a fix before next season

[solid sonnet]

Looks like I need to farm. Thanks!

[sly forge]

skeletal mages are good this season

[plush loom]

is plaguebearer node in aura of decay converted with ash wake or the tree conversions to different ailments? (the minion poison chance/poison damage)

[old hull]

Yes

[fair plume]

would manual flay mana lich be good for hc

[pearl snow]

what do you mean manual? and also if you are hc ssf or something itd be a pain to gear

[blissful trout]

Anyone else experiencing a bug with Abom despawning? I'm playing Abom sacrificing summoned skeletons and sometimes my Abom just despawns

[old hull]

Like flay with a stick shift?

[wintry flame]

sac can just kill Abom it's a known bug since last season

[blissful trout]

So my Abom is sacing itself?

[pearl snow]

yep

[blissful trout]

That's pretty inconvenient given how the skill itself incentivizes changing your skill bar before summoning abom

[noble flame]

When the Abom casts Sacrifice it can hit any minion that overlaps the target, including itself. Cast away from the Abom and you can mitigate the bug

[blissful trout]

Thanks, that is very helpful

[tacit plinth]

No

[hidden sable]

this one was pretty nice for ghostflame

80% efficiency + 34% extra

[muted mist]

Did they ever comment on the 1x2 weaver idol resist affixes being borked?

[tacit plinth]

Nope its best to run the small idols for res stacking now

[calm dome]

What should be my imprint on a LP1 Brewmaster Buckle? Hybrid HP or ailment cleanse on potion use?

[sly forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPJ_YUUu5tA

wtf did I just see

harvest flay lich killing uber aberroth in sub 50 sec?

[modern timber]

lmao out the rewards chest xD

[night hemlock]

Flay Lich is insane

One of if not the best build last patch and it's likely to be true this patch as well

[sly forge]

that is mana flay lich, main dmg is necrotic chaos bolt and (maybe) marrow shard triggered by flay

the above is harvest flay lich

main dmg is cold harvest and flay

the version ranked C by maxroll currently:)))

[slim sapphire]

I wonder if there is a hybrid version with spell+melee....looking around all flay build,i just see lot of more dmg multiplier but only accessible for melee part

[sly forge]

okay, anyone interested in a player damage sacrifice build?

with the ash boots, right now I don't know if I should go fire or physical build

[amber temple]

thinking of coming back to the game after a long break. I love lich but practicall all builds on maxroll are so heavily gear dependent that I feel like I'm going to struggle, especially in SSF.
Is there a build I can take to 300cc without insane investment?

warlock could work too

[lost gale]

any adaptive damage will be phys right?

[sly forge]

generic dmg maybe?

[lost gale]

yes I think zombies & skeletons is the way to go

[sly forge]

I think lich is best due to dual wielding

[lost gale]

you can get more casts of sacrifice than anything else

[sly forge]

hmm, right now the build needs resistance

[lost gale]

and zombies can do mshards too if you like that idea

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, that has never turned out well at all, as seen in old spellblade's existance.

Also mana flay is basically spell based because the extra multipiler given by flay is enough to hyperboost Chaos Bolts

[sly forge]

beccause I will be using 2 cycle rings instead of red rings

[lost gale]

I think you want to play low-life or spend a suffix on T7 minion life

the multiplier for sacrificing a minion with more health than you is substantial

sacrifice doesn't have many modifiers

[lost gale]

dual wield Dragorath's Claw for all res & crit stats? Sacrifice doesn't get base crit on tree

[sly forge]

@wintry flame

better than flame wraith

solid upper A and near S tier (since I used traversal to "ignore" the first phase, it has a nodes that terrifies enemies)

[sly forge]

that thing is nice

since right now I wonder if I should go for mad ladle

[slim sapphire]

Yea looking at chaos bolt skill tree....there is 48% more dmg and 32% more dmg if hitting a cursed enemies and the one who got 4 debuff....like no wonder it work lol

[lost gale]

ladle is very good ofc and cast speed is a very good stat for a build using triggered zombies and casting skeletons

depends if you can get the base crit you need or not I guess

[sly forge]

crit is not a problem I think

I get a lot of increased physical spell crit chance

[lost gale]

what about warlock for the flat from fissure?

[sly forge]

problem is res

[sly forge]

you wont have mana to even cast that

[lost gale]

why not? Skellies solve mana for you to a great extent

what skills are you thinking of using?

[sly forge]

sacrifice will almost reduce your mana to zero

[lost gale]

I was thinking zombies/skellies/sac/AoD

and idk what else

[sly forge]

sac, zombie, ske, aod

maybe transplant

[lost gale]

lich/reaper form is in tension with the 60% more damage for saccing a minion with more health than you thing

[sly forge]

yeah

lich is the way to go for sacrifice

warlock may also do so with low life (health gained as ward affixes)

but I'm not sure if you have mana for chtonic fissure

[lost gale]

how much chaining are you thinking? all of it?

and idk if bone nova is worth it for 1 point

[sly forge]

all

[lost gale]

with zombies idk if you need all because it'll tend to sac another zombie and trigger another sac at some point

[sly forge]

the biggest problem for this build is that it will not be friendly for online player if you want to maximize dmg

you will need rampancy and madness

similar to rip blood lich

but rip blood lich can have red rings to cap res

this one does not

[lost gale]

idk why you want rampancy if you're having trouble with res and want max health

it's not that much cast speed

and you can have too much cast speed

I think

[sly forge]

maybe at least I will go for madness

I will try ominis

[lost gale]

if you're hitting max skellies while zombies are doing animations before blowing up then you probably have too much cast speed

[sly forge]

hmm

for lich, I can receive the bonus from this one https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcCYFZyA