digital pebble
uniques i mean
#💀┃acolyte
upper badger
my god did they hotfix something? why are item piles stacked directly ontop of each other Oo annyoing
desert sky
Curious what builds are you guys playing for farming Monoliths? I am doing Minion build but not sure if i should be working towards something better to push
shadow valley
ZZZZ
lusty heart
has anyone tried ash wake yet?
foggy summit
How do I link my character? Im gonna break my keyboard soon. This build is the worst build ive ever played. cant even get past first harbinger becuase everythingt hat moves in empowered feels like its oneshotting me and build is built around dealyed damge, but zero tankyness LOL
pearl snow
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
Go to the Import Button and input your character / account name
foggy summit
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEdXwRyg
I got the weapon too from their guide. Its in nemsiss egg right now, but still the same with it
stuck owlBOT
foggy summit
Warlock zombie build from maxroll
pearl snow
- Drop slow chance in AoD to max out the HP node Absence of life
- You are not res capped
- Fire res needs to also be a bit higher you are reducing your ffire res by like 90, so 132% means you actually have like 40% res there
- I would take some passive points inside Doom Herald in the Warlock Tree. Reduces your overall dmg taken while in profane veil
- You only have 1400ish hp and your ward generation is probably extremely low. You have no block nor armor really or dodge. You need some other defensive layer here. Adding in BoneClamour can help with Ward gen, a shield instead of the book for now to help is also valid.
If you want a quick fix you could always go dodge and grab the Primo chest Wings of Discord
Thats just at a glance
62% crit reduction is okay ish, ideally you have 100
but res comes first
foggy summit
Well that proves it, this guide is horrible
Dosent say any of this and I have followed it pretty much, it even tells me to get these items that I have even if its not LP items because they are so good, and with them the character cant even get through my first empowered. Never ever seen a build being this horrible. Litearlly could do this on a naked character with a proper build...
pearl snow
Yeah that build is very strong but it is incredibly gear dependent. So much so that I wouldnt recommend anyone starting it because your CDR is going to be so low that Profane Veil probably feels awful
left whale
foggy summit
But where does all that CDR come from that you are talking about. I mean I have CDR on my belt, not the top roll. But a high one, also I have additional 10% from that. That means only boots left as far as I know. But that wont even make it feel good at all its barely anything
pearl snow
If you get decent rolls on belt and boots then its just up to spamming curses outside of profane veil to lower the cd
honestly only 1 point in the CD reduction via curse casts is going to feel awful
Stream of Prfanity left side of Veil tree
I havent really paid attention to ttheir build guide but I roughly know veil and there is no way only 2 casts of curses is gunna be enough to get it off cd
hidden sable
ghostflame
willow verge
So.. im interested in doing a necro build this season. any good for a begginer at this class?
pearl snow
Nearly everything you pick is probably good, I dont think there is anything super complicated or incredibly heavy gear dependent if you ignore snapshotting.
Crit HS Mages, Vomit Zombies, Pyre Golem, Abom
raw surge
is there a way to spread bone curse
does Cursed Ground still work with Sigil of Mortality
ashen bluff
ez corrupt
acoustic fable
@autumn bough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1bFkTeXumc
summer breach
pearl snow
Good thing I randomly checked the ground, my filter wasnt setup properly lol, bis idol just laying here
abstract summit
quick one, pyre golem or mages for levelling aco?
pearl snow
just use both
brazen steppe
Any good cof lich build for rushing uber abberroth?
topaz knot
all builds are viable as cof or mg
brazen steppe
all builds are viable as cof or mg
Well trade always makes it easier but its gold dependent
topaz knot
it doesn't really. especially if you're not someone who constantly keeps up with selling items and inflation
and depends on how popular the build is. popularity affects prices on mg
but all is the same for cof
brazen steppe
Its my first time playing cof over 4 seasons cuz trade always made it easier at low corruptions
brazen steppe
Hopefully it gives the old beta last epoch vibes i think i burnt out in beta thats why i liked trade so much
topaz knot
Any good cof lich build for rushing uber abberroth?
to answer ur question mana flay lichl, but it is not viable until you get certain items together
brazen steppe
As long as its farmable without uber aberroth items then its fine, otherwise it takes a bit long
topaz knot
it is, but you'll need to use a different build to farm it
atleast until you get the uniques and required stats to make the build function
brazen steppe
I can just farm with crit death seal in lvl100 monos, and use that warlock proj skill+bone curse for single target
topaz knot
you'll need t7 legendaries for it, specifically t7 mana on a few slots. So might want to do a bit higher corruption
but a lot of ppl use harvest flay till they can swap to mana flay
it's still kinda gear dependent tho
abstract summit
it is, but you'll need to use a different build to farm it
people kinda overblow how much gear you need for flay lich to become usable
some started it as low as 300 mana, i was lil but more conservative but honetly it's fine from 600
topaz knot
people kinda overblow how much gear you need for flay lich to become usable
yeah, but for the average person, the mana management is worse than normal
if you're good you can get away with lower mana
brazen steppe
Always hated mana management in LE, wish we had mana cost to life cost convert somehow
abstract summit
even with 2k mana you gotta harvest the rares so would rather just say if you dont wanna do that dont even play the build lol
ye that's def not your build then
shadow rampart
anyone having issues targetting golem with dread shade? Yes have other minions present but it wants to target all but the golem...
gritty drum
yeah
wintry flame
targets closest minion atm
pearl snow
tis bug
wintry flame
get like right on top of your golem and cast
and hope other minions aren't closer
or unsummon all, then only summon golem to put on.
gritty drum
wait, does this mean eating a death knight instead of a skelemage doesn't activate this passive?
i figured death knights are better to eat because they have double the health of a skelemage
wintry flame
I forget what they did with that node. I think all types are Mages
should be easy to test tho
gritty drum
the main skill says that all subtypes are just considered a skeleton mage or a skeleton warrior, but this particular node has this text which makes me doubt
wintry flame
Think it's from a prior implementation
shadow rampart
@wintry flame ty!
gritty drum
does it have a visual indication or do i just test the movement speed?
pearl snow
Vomit Zombies is cranking so hard on bosses lmao
gritty drum
the assembly is kinda weird since you need to swap your skills and if it dies mid fight you're screwed, but the resulting abom is so powerful that it feels worth it
wintry flame
It's had so many iterations 😛
when it first released no one cared for it and mostly just threw it in army builds.
sly forge
how are you sacing the trex?
Sacrifice chain in sac tree
wintry flame
Sacrifice chain in sac tree
don't chain
gritty drum
i've seen the old abom builds with gear swapping, looked pretty sad
much better now that it eats the absorbed minions healing from them
sly forge
don't chain
You can cap without chain right?
Also now idk if bleed is better than crit
Might try bleed now
wintry flame
Also now idk if bleed is better than crit
abom devours fast so it was a pretty good respawn time
and i put bleed in my planner a bit since it sorta gets scaled regardless, but maybe full investment is good
wintry flame
i've seen the old abom builds with gear swapping, looked pretty sad
that's not even that bad. The first build I made on abom was probably one of the first if not the first solo abom build lmao and you ahd to invest points to speed up consumption and grab 2 minions consumed at once node. 
and it only lasted so long, like 1-2mins
then I had to do a resummon process again
gritty drum
oh yeah and there was a node to make it unlimited but shitty too
wintry flame
yeah now there is, when it released there wasn't
gritty drum
or it was decaying health, something like that
wintry flame
yeah it decayed
gritty drum
if EHG manages to code in the abom surviving logouts it'd be perfect
it's an OP minion but if you let it die on a boss it's over for you, seems fair
||only it literally never dies to anything except that one necrotic arena sludge||
wintry flame
definitely slaps, probs needs a bit less overall dmg tho lmao
gritty drum
definitely slaps, probs needs a bit less overall dmg tho lmao
still a bit too potent yeah
pearl snow
If you ever wanna go minions Necdro has plenty of options. If you want something more self cast / personal dmg then you got Witchfire Warlock, anything DoT CB works until like 500, Fissure/Torment lock is always good
stone vault
Why does horrific volley not lower Dead Eye CD to 3 secs from 4 secs on tooltip, but CDR shows it lowering?
sly forge
@wintry flame what idols to do for bleed build?
I don't see any good idol that scales bleed dmg for minions unfortunately
wintry flame
<@225417895038025729> what idols to do for bleed build?
hmm it's either vitality idols or idols that have melee attack speed as weaver enchant
vitality scales the more DoT damage for minions
sly forge
ah yeah vit
hmm also
there are 3 affixes
bleed chance
bleed duration
pen with bleed
which do you think I should choose?
for armor and helm?
I can choose 2 of 3
knotty cave
Any good lich builds this season?
wintry flame
I can choose 2 of 3
you can get some duration from the tree, but you also probably get a lot of pen from AoD, so Chance for sure, then idk what would be best next
abstract summit
Any good lich builds this season?
same as previous season, lich mostly untouched
(many words to say "flay")
severe turret
can anything autocast spirit plague?
muted mist
can anything autocast spirit plague?
Dread shade, wildly inefficiently
severe turret
Dread shade, wildly inefficiently
which doesnt help if one is wanting to do warlock stuffs
muted mist
which doesnt help if one is wanting to do warlock stuffs
It doesn't help anyone really
severe turret
It doesn't help anyone really
my point is that if i'm doing a curse build and wanting to add it, i'm forced to constantly self cast it
muted mist
There's various ways to spread it, harvest and soul feast, but otherwise, yep. You can make it aoe and it jumps when the enemy dies, but yeah.
Spamming it to reset the cool down on profane veil was the cool thing to do at one point
muted mist
<@225417895038025729> what idols to do for bleed build?
Presumably you've already got a marked for death chance on minion hit idol in there, other than vitality and shared phys pen there's not a lot that directly boosts. An aura of decay radius idol was good QoL for me.
stone vault
Anyone know why does horrific volley not lower Dead Eye CD to 3 secs from 4 secs on tooltip, but CDR shows it lowering?
turbid kayak
why so few acoyltes on leaderboard corruption, due to harder to gear?
sly forge
@wintry flame hmm bleed build is okay
between A and B tier
a bit worse than flame wraith with maxed gear
heady rain
hi folks, want to league start aco this season, heard rip blood is good....how's that looking?
wintry flame
<@225417895038025729> hmm bleed build is okay
it's better than crit with trex?
sly forge
it's better than crit with trex?
better
with shared bleed chance+physical pen with bleed affixes it is better
calm dome
Can anyone confirm if bone prison minions from bone curse each proc doom brand from dread shade?
sly forge
it's better than crit with trex?
Prob is when fighting vs uberroth you won't have all 13 blood wraiths all the times
stone vault
Anyone gotten Skeles to resummon during Abom channel or does it not proc during anymore?
wintry flame
Anyone gotten Skeles to resummon during Abom channel or does it not proc during ...
doesn't happen anymore
stone vault
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why do they keep gutting all the abom stuff zzzzz
And horrific volley still doesnt even work
pearl snow
why so few acoyltes on leaderboard corruption, due to harder to gear?
Prob not popular this season either, last season was the lich rework
hidden sable
people dont really know about good acolyte builds
sly forge
@wintry flame https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Klw6Spjv-Gmw_Fcpqtf2c9V8-Yre2AaI/view?usp=sharing you might try. It's between A and B tier. This one is with maxed gear and I stacked a lot of vit idols. Gears are the same as abom but with bleed affixes on armor and helm
mana is still an issue even with maxed gear
turbid kayak
people dont really know about good acolyte builds
it was real popular last season tho
peak flare
Dread Shade targeting fixed with the new patch.
turbid kayak
ill farm some gear on my runemaster so i can play a warlock later. loooks rough to gear
hidden sable
what is rough to gear
turbid kayak
the endgame warlock builds i saw
hidden sable
doesnt every path have a good leveling
turbid kayak
i means like going high corruption
hidden sable
warlock has infernal shade, lich has stygian coal, etc
willow verge
what are the good necro builds this seasons?
sly forge
btw has anyone tried stygian coal lich stacking over 200 int and 1k+ mana?
willow verge
kind wanna make a necro this time
turbid kayak
abom necro
pearl snow
btw has anyone tried stygian coal lich stacking over 200 int and 1k+ mana?
im pretty sure giga min maxers have done that in the past but I dunno myself
calm dome
what are the good necro builds this seasons?
Innovate and be the pioneer of a new build
pearl snow
Abom Necro, HS Mages. New stuff which might be also good is Pyre Golem and DoT HS Mages
turbid kayak
abom necro actually doesn't seem too tough to gear compared to warlock
willow verge
Abom Necro, HS Mages. New stuff which might be also good is Pyre Golem and DoT H...
HS mages?
pearl snow
I dont think many necro builds are insanely hard to get online
willow verge
nice. i was planning on doing a flame wrath build though
sly forge
im pretty sure giga min maxers have done that in the past but I dunno myself
the only users I saw did so is misha and it is only 800 mana and around 170 int
pearl snow
well if thats what Misha capped at I dunno how youll get higher without getting insane altars
sly forge
I tried offline gear in ss3 to have 220 int and 1400 mana and it took dummy in 8 secs
knotty cave
laser lich dead?
sly forge
so the damage scaling with int and mana is actually good
fierce moon
New to Rip Blood Warlock—switched from the leveling build to the maxroll build a little too early I think because I cannot live with the aura of decay and bone curse toggled on. I just bleed out. What is the solution here? Ward conversion? Higher health regen? The guide is not clear on the breakpoints for this.
pearl snow
New to Rip Blood Warlock—switched from the leveling build to the maxroll build a...
Both those and also making sure you have high enough resistance. AoD lowers your own res too
fierce moon
I will look into the resistance aspect. I can shift some things around to accommodate.
Do you know the target ward conversion or health regen for early monos?
sly forge
@autumn bough Is it possible to stack 1.2k+ mana and 200+ int for stygian coal build using online gear?
pearl snow
there really isnt hard breakpoints for it. Just make sure you can somehow out gen the debuff. Whether your build uses Rip Blood to get ward or health on spell hit or just has passive ward gen from low life etc
just depends
fierce moon
Thanks for the info!
pearl snow
If you need further help later plenty of people here know enough to help out
fierce moon
I am sure I’ll be back with questions. Still making sense of the build in general. I went from clearing maps easily with the leveling build, to swapping before I really had the gear and dying instantly. So will have to craft up a bit to make things work for now.
pearl snow
Fair warning I think I heard either the build creator or some other creator even started it and swapped off due to gearing
could just be hearsay tho
heavy breach
How is flay this season? Wanted to play it last season but didn't get around to it
was thinking of rolling cold flay until I can swap to mana
pearl snow
basically unchanged, altars make your mana stacking idols even better
heavy breach
basically unchanged, altars make your mana stacking idols even better
that's good to know, since it already looked insane last season
Thanks!
severe turret
what's the whole thing with mana flay? i rarely even look at lich
abstract summit
Turns out triggering 150 chaos bolts a second is good
Plus inbuilt mini teleport so quite zoomy for mapping as well
severe turret
what buidl you running?
abstract summit
Well right now nothing, in the process of rolling back to this beauty after my league start turned out to be bait XD
We did it in 1.3 tho
Same build basically so any planner from 1.3 should work, just more mana from idols and a mana stacking altar
pearl snow
@wintry flame it took until roughly empowered for a completely not built for Pyre Golem to fall off a bit. Big Fire Boy should scale quite well once you give him skeleton sustenance
wintry flame
yeah I use it in my setup right now and it's nice to help with clear I'm in empowered and use skeles 😄
pearl snow
Oh did you swap stuff around to use him alongside your HS Mages?
wintry flame
no I just don't have a good mana pool to justify CB and no ash wake boots for AoD 😛
pearl snow
HEY SAME WHERE TF IS ASH WAKE
abstract summit
I got one on my sentinel during campaign that's why i asked if I should go mages or the big boi 😄
pearl snow
the movespeed bonus on golem is kinda nice too if you grab it
abstract summit
So i guess now you know where are your ashes
sly forge
@wintry flame hmm, currently your pyre golem needs snapshot right?
is it strong without snapshot?
wintry flame
Idk about now, tbh. I don't think it would be that crazy
sly forge
also, is it worth using hollow's brand instead of cycle ring? we have 3 skeletons, 1 more from necro mastery, 2 more from passive, 3 more from skills, 2 more from hollow, and 1 more from armor affix. That's 12 more
we can have 4 golems @wintry flame
wintry flame
yeah true I am completely blind on army variation
since it wasn't really that ideal last season
you have to go hollow to get make 4 golems
sly forge
yeah my question is is 4 golem better than 3 golem+2 cycle ring?
wintry flame
what does cycle get you?
wintry flame
oh my b, forgot about that. the flat is nice issue is the new bone kindling node only works on fire DoT damage
sly forge
+1 to minion over time skill
wintry flame
+1 won't work
sly forge
oh my b, forgot about that. the flat is nice issue is the new bone kindling node...
not flat, increased
wintry flame
Golem doesn't get the tag
pearl snow
I dont think cycle is worth it. Just get generic minion dmg rings
sly forge
it also has flat minion dot damage but it's poison not fire
wintry flame
yeah the increased and that flat was why I went before
sly forge
now tough choice
wintry flame
but I think getting the other golem is more than those rings
sly forge
33% more dmg or poison dot+increased spell
I' m not thinking of snapshot right now so I want to take avantage of all possible boosts
wintry flame
yeah ocular or auric
robust crater
anyone willing to help me out with a COF wp, just kicked off season tonight
calm dome
If a zombie with dread shade dies, does the explosion benefit with maximum dread shade effect with flesh harvest allocated in dread shade? Or does it depend on the hp it had when it died (via Sacrifice or Chaos Bolt)
sly forge
@wintry flame I forgot
pyre golem needs minion cdr
for infernal aura right?
ah nvm
that's only 1 sec cdr
wintry flame
eh, it has a duration of 10s and cd of 10s but a little bit wouldn't hurt
sly forge
@wintry flame huh is the bone kindling node affected by minion cdr?
obtuse quest
ASH WAKE EXISTS
DId unique boots rng screw you
sly forge
for minion cdr I mean the cooldown of infernal aura
wintry flame
<@225417895038025729> huh is the bone kindling node affected by minion cdr?
no, I am doubtful
pearl snow
DId unique boots rng screw you
yeah just got my first one with a random Ascendance after hitting empowered
sly forge
no, I am doubtful
okay
pearl snow
I have a problem and its the fact that I want to take my old poison AoD lich and use Ash Wake to make it ignite
but ill leave that for later in the league
robust crater
is anyone playing dread's ignite minion build with zombies and mages?
sly forge
golem has 1 sec cdr with infernal aura
pearl snow
a couple of us are playing vomit zombies, not sure about dreads
sly forge
if I use nest relic and 5x minion cdr will my cpu break?
robust crater
yeah vomit zombies. Im sure he wasn't the first to come up with it. How's it feeling?
wintry flame
if I use nest relic and 5x minion cdr will my cpu break?
they can't cast until the aura is gone
obtuse quest
if I use nest relic and 5x minion cdr will my cpu break?
Aura can't stack lmao
robust crater
how early can I swap to it? playing the maxroll leveling build but i want to get to it quickly
strange kiln
Is dread phalanx finally worth it, or still not because they didn't consider the fact that multi-shot with more skeletons gives you more dps?
pearl snow
how early can I swap to it? playing the maxroll leveling build but i want to get...
I swapped at 35 when I had the room for specialization of both Hungering Souls, Mages, and Zombies + golem
robust crater
super smooth for leveling as soon as you hit 35ish
sweet, im not far from there
obtuse quest
Is dread phalanx finally worth it, or still not because they didn't consider the...
It always worked in rogue skeleton setups.
strange kiln
multi-shot, as in relation to archers
robust crater
I swapped at 35 when I had the room for specialization of both Hungering Souls, ...
are you mana stacking or trying to while leveling?
vale jacinth
@wintry flame ok time to level up an acolyte and check out roid bees lul
wintry flame
Is dread phalanx finally worth it, or still not because they didn't consider the...
more skeletons is just better clear not more damage
obtuse quest
multi-shot, as in relation to archers
This falls to the question of "Does multishot shotgun?"
pearl snow
are you mana stacking or trying to while leveling?
while leveling I just did whatever dropped. but i usual focus on resistances
wintry flame
This falls to the question of "Does multishot shotgun?"
no
obtuse quest
Yes: never worth.
No: Always worth
sly forge
btw for pyre golem, how to let them receive the bone kindling buff?
just summon skeletons and they will die automatically?
sly forge
oh
pearl snow
ill take that
strange kiln
guess Im better off just ignoring dread phalanx if I want more cryo arrows then
willow verge
mana stack necro from dreadful looks insane. anyone doing it or smth similar?
pearl snow
if the stacking is for vomite ignite then ya
willow verge
if the stacking is for vomite ignite then ya
yes
kind need to gett the weaver idol before though
pearl snow
nah its fine before
brave bolt
I'm trying to figure out if I'm just an idiot. I respecced to Rip Blood, because I can't stand the "torment" Acolyte leveling build on Maxroll. I don't have any uniques for the build, but the guide indicated they weren't needed to get going. My health drains from ~2k to about 200, with about 500 ward, and unless I'm actively fighting a large group of enemies, I die to a stiff breeze.
Was one of the uniques a "fix" for this, or have I missed something in the gameplay loop?
My char currently: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYw45y5
willow verge
nah its fine before
leveling is possible? or nah
pearl snow
leveling is possible? or nah
yeah I swapped at lvl 35
willow verge
yeah I swapped at lvl 35
lul. without any unique?
pearl snow
lul. without any unique?
yes this build needs nothing to function
just use pyre golem until ash wake and fire res is high enough
willow verge
can u link me your character?
pearl snow
can u link me your character?
Current Char: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApbW4dmR
Me yapping about leveling and the build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmnprZ-C6o
stuck owlBOT
abstract summit
what's the reasoning behind going cryomancers over Pyromancers with Ashwake?
( https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/s05ubv0i#1 )
pearl snow
what's the reasoning behind going cryomancers over Pyromancers with Ashwake?
( h...
I think his build has different gear sets forskill sets could be wrong
Zeck made a vid whre he explains the whole thing
abstract summit
I think his build has different gear sets forskill sets could be wrong
it has cryo in all variations unless im blind
abstract summit
oh okay that makes sense
obtuse quest
oh I thin DK overwrites cryo
DK overwrites all mage variants
abstract summit
i think the game approves of my necro levelling path
sly forge
has anyone tried to check if the node "blood fusion" works in rip blood?
pearl snow
yeah it works
noble flame
Hold up, Vengeful Souls actually works on Death Knights!?
pearl snow
yes, but I think Zeckar noted that the HS that procs from them uses the player stats not minions
noble flame
oh, that's odd. interesting and probably a bug, but might be workable
pearl snow
wow you complain about ash wake then you get a 2lp and a 1lp drop. your trip to sanctum drops you a Ravens Rise 1LP
dull sapphire
Kabooom 😂
sly forge
sry wrong vid
@ashen bluff just testing how strong minion builds are with maxed offline gear
ashen bluff
sac abom?
sly forge
yes
last time forgot to add sustain for blood wraiths
dmg is slightly worse than flame wraith
but that's because I stacked int and fire res like crazy for flame wraiths
wintry flame
if we got bone curse it'd be better probs
ashen bluff
finally dropped a soulfire, dot mages be dottin
sly forge
if we got bone curse it'd be better probs
unfortunately only the 5 nodes are all necessary
skel
abom
aod
sac
dread
cant replace any of them for bone curse
shadow valley
what is aod doing in here? (im newb)
and Im seeing you having it most of these tests
muted mist
I'm trying to figure out if I'm just an idiot. I respecced to Rip Blood, because...
maybe spec out of the % current health drain passives, and into the missing health healing in Aura of Decay. and maybe out of the self-torment node in fissure if you still have issues. You may also wish to spec out of the aura version of Bone Curse, because you are inflicting yourself iwth bone curse and marked for death and you don't have 100 all resist; usually folks run the aura bone curse with Pearls of the Swine unique amulet which gives massive ward/s per self-curse, enough to outweight the downsides. You don't have that, so you just have downsides.
muted mist
what is aod doing in here? (im newb)
reduces enemy resists based on your INT, and gives your minions 100% bleed chance and 75% more bleed damage
wintry flame
what is aod doing in here? (im newb)
gives a lot of res shred and also some bleed w/ phy DoT multi in tree
ashen bluff
welllllllllll
wintry flame
depends on the damage type of your build cause you have to convert in some cases
muted mist
cant replace any of them for bone curse
i mean, you absolutely can ditch abom and manually sacrifice archers. you need mana regen to do that, but not all that much if you only need to sustain 13 of them. It's just, you know, a pain in the ass to play comparatively. and you lose the abom's damage
shadow valley
necro!
wintry flame
sorry I meant type as in damage type 😛
shadow valley
yeah necrotic xD
wintry flame
oh my bad. yeah that one has less reason to run AoD
sly forge
i mean, you absolutely can ditch abom and manually sacrifice archers. you need ...
bad qol. You need to press skel and sac at a time and also press bone curse sometimes
wintry flame
since there isn't a necrotic convert
muted mist
sure, i didn't say this was a good idea. if the abom is doing more than a third of the damage, then the swap does not even boost your damage. but it is possible!
tall mural
I guess I gotta do this now dont I?
shadow valley
is there some way of rerolling unique ranges? like idk, turtle?
muted mist
is there *some* way of rerolling unique ranges? like idk, turtle?
yep, sacrificing another of the same unique with equal LP, it's also a woven echo
shadow valley
oh cool!
hallow jewel
how good/bad was rip blood leveling from zero
gritty drum
@wintry flame yep, death knights don't count as skeleton mages for abom, massive DPS drop if you eat DKs
ashen bluff
wait what, why
wintry flame
it's for the engorgement node
gritty drum
and death in the family
ashen bluff
no why do they not count D: that seems so inconsistent
gritty drum
cause of the second line, it's a bit strange
guess you better make sure you have at least 1 skeleton warrior too, if it's all rogues it might also brick
pearl snow
yo is there a ring i can get to help with my mana issues
what zombie build and also what mana issues are you having just cost? Phantom Grip has % mana on it. Otherwise you could get Attunement or mana regen on rings
modern timber
what zombie build and also what mana issues are you having just cost? Phantom Gr...
the volatile dead zombie wartlock
pearl snow
you are running out of mana on the profane veil apocalypse setup?
modern timber
you are running out of mana on the profane veil apocalypse setup?
im lvl 48
thats prob why
pearl snow
yeah thats not really a leveling build
modern timber
yeah thats not really a leveling build
bro im already doing my dmg than my lvl 85 main
ashen bluff
it still not really a leveling build
the whole setup is heavily gear dependant
once you're up there with the proper mods there'll be a lot of jank
lost gale
cause of the second line, it's a bit strange
Have you tested that? I'm fairly sure that's from the old text and they consolidated it in the rework for 1.3.
Iirc they're all the same type of minion if they're summoned by the same skill now
gritty drum
Have you tested that? I'm fairly sure that's from the old text and they consolid...
yeah just now on a dummy
goes from 15k hit to 69 with regular mages
lost gale
I wouldn't put it past EHG to forget about death knights or for it to be bugged tbf, but I'm quite sure it's meant to be the case that summoning abom with any combo of mages, pyromancers, cryomancers and DKs is meant to have the same result. (Other than the max health of the abom)
The reason abom was such a chore to summon before 1.3 is because it did care about every type of mage, golem, skeleton, wraith etc
ashen bluff
nice rolls on first horn of the bone wisp, let's see if nemesis gives mods / corrupt bricks
gritty drum
well all it changes right now is you get a bit less health from regular mages cause they've got 100 base and DKs got 200
i thought maybe this is to prevent some wraith exploits with different kinds of wraiths or stop it from eating vanguards, something like that
torpid adder
how are you supposed to aim dread shade with a controller
i mean in city sure
but in fight?
shadow valley
dw its bugged anyway xD cant aim for shit with it
you can spam summoning of the unit you want it on and then dread
it should cast on the closest unit
torpid adder
so the perfect minion i dont nwant it on lol
ah well still gonna skip on it then lol
minions dont survive that anyway
ashen bluff
nemesis you useless :(
gusty fulcrum
is there anywhere in game you can view minion resist numbers?
i don't see it in the character sheet
lucid kelp
is there anywhere in game you can view minion resist numbers?
I may be wrong but i believe this is a shared stat with the character..what you have, they have..
gusty fulcrum
hmm..i can't find any info anywhere on it
shadow valley
I may be wrong but i believe this is a shared stat with the character..what you ...
naaah
honest meteor
Anybody got a good Rip blood/marrow build to level with?
(mostly, not the maxroll build that i know NEEDS all the 87 uniuqes just to work)
torpid adder
for leveling just do whatever
honest meteor
i mean, it was mostly "it can do up to 100 corruption"
mostly to the point where i can start farming for stuff
obtuse quest
I may be wrong but i believe this is a shared stat with the character..what you ...
They are not
Minion stats are not shared with player stats unless specified
obtuse quest
is there anywhere in game you can view minion resist numbers?
Pen and paper
obtuse quest
dw its bugged anyway xD cant aim for shit with it
They fixed that recently
shadow valley
neat
obtuse quest
But ye the best way to aim stuff like this is to target their feet
torpid adder
i just repect to the summon wraith build from maxroll
when exactly are my minions getting tot he nont dead part?
they already die fast af
and iam supposed to throw drain life and dread shade on them
faint igloo
Anyone have a good minion necromancer loot filter code for leveling/beginning of mono's?
severe grail
is it normal that u see mainly necromancer in game and in the later? surprised i barely see any warlock
sly forge
@wintry flame hmm, rip blood warlock (which is upper A tier in maxroll) takes about 50 sec for uberroth with max gear. So abom sac takes about 1 min isn't too bad.
mint leaf
can corrupted exalted items be used in the temporal sanctum
torpid adder
just a guess
shadow valley
so uhhh, as hsmage do I even care for my mages crit? if the hs uses my stats...
well prolly yeah
tender halo
im not sure that the HS cast by the DKs use your stats. I believe it just uses the HS tree
lost gale
so uhhh, as hsmage do I even care for my mages crit? if the hs uses my stats...
the HS the mages use on cooldown use the mages stats, the ones triggered by the retaliation stuff in the HS skill tree apparently use player stats
so either you get CDR for your mages and care about their crit & other stats
lost gale
or you try and use player stats and do stuff like attack them with rip blood & marrow shards, curse them with penance etc
tender halo
so heres a question, I'm level 69 (nice lol) leveling as the zombie ignite vomit, but i want to change to the HS mage crit build im just not sure when is the right time. any suggestions?
tender halo
how does it feel even without cdr for minions on idols?
that was the main thing i was holding out for
shadow valley
I told you, it feels good
well I'm not comparing it to warlock or flay lich, but as far as necro goes? good!
I have 50% cdr right now
fall of the outcast has the blessing for large idols
shadow valley
how does it feel even without cdr for minions on idols?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ActionRPG/character/NecroFTW
actionrpg, from whom I'm copying build, has 0% cdr and pushing 750 corruption as of now
tender halo
ok, i was using the zeckar one
shadow valley
afaik arpg very much wants the cdr, he just didnt drop any xD
tender halo
i swapped, it feels ok. slow and a bit squishy rn
ashen bluff
Rockin 94% from idols now
severe grail
is it normal that u see mainly necromancer in game and in the later? surprised i barely see any warlock
short elk
has anyone tried poison skeleton rogue with bees (apiarists set)?
shadow valley
is it normal that u see mainly necromancer in game and in the later? surprised i...
idk where you 'see' them, but that's official ladder
out of 10k ppl
severe grail
idk where you 'see' them, but that's official ladder
hmm where is that in the ladder? all i see is this
shadow valley
ashen bluff
noooo (my only zombie ring)
severe grail
https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/
why the f are there 23% bladedancer?
shadow valley
because its the main rework/addition of the patch
ashen bluff
^ yeah that's what happens when new stuff gets added
delicate trench
New skills typically garner a lot of attention as well as a higher likelihood of discovering interactions that are overtuned
pearl furnace
Been running the ash and fire node still early but feels good so far. But trying to make a minion dot build. But I think it may fall off as I start climbing higher
chrome mason
ashen bluff
Large zombies are never vomiting >_> Why
actually zombies just in general not vomiting why is this happenin
they're just doing melee
ashen bluff
... is the stackin of cdr making it so all they do is leap
shadow valley
tbf I've noticed mine barely ever vomit
lost gale
... is the stackin of cdr making it so all they do is leap
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/zombie_leap I don't think so, it has a 0.5s CD by default apparently
if you don't have vomit then the end of the leap is meant to include a suicide
ashen bluff
nope lol enough cdr and all they do is leap it comes off cd during the animation and they just repeat it
I took off the idols and they vomit that's so stupid
Here's another funny thing, zombies dont despawn if you take em off the bar
turbid kayak
Is Abom still the most powerful build overall?
ashen bluff
nah they start doing just leaps at sub 50% for me
shadow valley
weird
ashen bluff
might be cos of aps too
lost gale
Is Abom still the most powerful build overall?
very likely yes but it's not like everything has been fully explored & tested
shadow valley
lmao imagine being in a necromancer guild
'Master Salazar, my zombies won't vomit!'
"Wretched youngling, going fast is against zombie nature. Too much cdr and they fluke!'
ashen bluff
my dot stuff is kinda pointless now, the hs even with cdr doesn't apply that much cos not using the all can hit staff
so am I just swappin to crit now then <_<
5 skelly mages only maintain like 40 damned atm
pearl snow
Kinda depends, the 5 Dks on their own dont create high stacks but they do hit pretty hard. It might be worth it to test Dragonflame Edit too for more ignite chance
Fire Archers do end up with nearly double the stacks of ignite but they do the same tick dmg as DKs. I was doing testing without gear in offline on dummys
ashen bluff
not doing ignite doing damned
ashen bluff
Fire Archers do end up with nearly double the stacks of ignite but they do the s...
and I highly doubt that what were you scalin em with
pearl snow
I only had Dragonflame Edict on and soulfire. I used Phantom Grips for + levels and an Omnis to get higher base levels
pearl snow
not doing ignite doing damned
True, but since you can take advantage of possession it should be strong too
Phantom Grips should be too much since I didnt have mana from idols or anything else
Pretty minimal max mana scaling
ashen bluff
so not actually using the scaling dk gets in comparison
also edict only works in a build where you spam a minion skill
pearl snow
Yeah and they still did more tick dmg
Than archers on a dummy
It was just to give base ignite chance in a testing environment
ashen bluff
ah you meant they did the same dps with double stacks I msiread that
that makes sense
ashen bluff
I thought you were saying the otherway around that archers were doing double dps w ignite
ashen bluff
oh okay
lost gale
not doing ignite doing damned
where's your minion damned chance coming from? Chaos Bolts and what else?
ashen bluff
cbolt and dread shade atm, possess is ofc also gettin scaled
main idea was to just have skellies clear and drop zombies on st and that'd shred there >_< but now they're not vomiting at all cos of the cdr
pearl snow
The leaping in place is hilarious
But also very sadge
I honestly thought it was a bug
pearl snow
Oof
ashen bluff
I don't really need it it's dead unless they fix this vomit thing
pearl snow
My fiancee likes crafting in Arpgs so I have about 20 items for her to corrupt today. Wish me luck everything might break
ashen bluff
rng bless
pearl snow
Yeah I Opted for double minion traversal rings instead of cycle
I was also thinking dropping a couple dmg nodes for Mage casting travel but meh
lost gale
they probably just need to give leap a minimum range or something like that
pearl snow
True the fact the minion AI goes. LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP HES RIGHT THERE LEAP GET LEAP HIM LEAP
is silly
lost gale
without vomit I think they just explode
ashen bluff
didn't test taking off vomit
pliant shoal
Is abomination necro clear too bad? better to have speed farm build when farming end game?
lost gale
Zombie Leap
Leap to the target location
Mana Cost: 12
Cooldown: 0.5 seconds
Base Speed: 3.235 per second
Use Delay: 0.02 seconds
Use Duration: 0.34 seconds
Scales with Cast Speed
Suicide Explosion
Lose 200% of current health
That's what LET says about the leap
ashen bluff
slam is screen wide right
lost gale
lost gale
Is abomination necro clear too bad? better to have speed farm build when farming...
it's not a fast farming build, no, but it isn't painfully slow either. Abom moves really fast, attacks fairly fast and one-taps almost everything
but you are relying on a single melee minion to do everything
ashen bluff
yeah they auto blowup
pliant shoal
it's not a fast farming build, no, but it isn't painfully slow either. Abom move...
Ok ty, cant pick a build. Zombie profane b. looks good but says very gear dependant
ashen bluff
I don't think there's a minion build on aco that's fast af clear
they're just kind autobomber
lost gale
Ok ty, cant pick a build. Zombie profane b. looks good but says very gear depend...
it is, the build really only does one thing which is spawns these super zombies and blows them up and it's all tied to cooldowns.
If you don't have enough CDR you'll be running around waiting for cooldowns, if you don't have enough minion flat spell & INT then the zombies won't have enough AOE to one-shot everything.
ashen bluff
How'd bug reportin work in this game again, forum only?
pliant shoal
it is, the build really only does one thing which is spawns these super zombies ...
Which one is more important if I ask you for end game farming, Speed farm or boss killing?
lost gale
How'd bug reportin work in this game again, forum only?
press F8 in game
pliant shoal
How'd bug reportin work in this game again, forum only?
F8
lost gale
Which one is more important if I ask you for end game farming, Speed farm or bos...
depends what you want to do, if you want to push corruption you can't ignore bossing because something like Witchfire won't be able to kill shades easily past a certain point but going fast is how you're going to get most of your loot I think
brazen steppe
at 50% cdr (what I have) they cast normally
just go back in time and play sacrifice bugged zombie build with infinite negative mana and flask spam
hushed dew
is there any way to curse myself without spending a skill slot?
turbid kayak
can corrupted items be used to slam?
ashen bluff
can corrupted items be used to slam?
no
turbid kayak
oh so no point in putting the t7 affix ones for sale ?
ashen bluff
is there any way to curse myself without spending a skill slot?
there's also uniques that do it
ashen bluff
oh so no point in putting the t7 affix ones for sale ?
I mean ppl might buy em cos they don't know
hushed dew
oh dang it's warlock mastery xd
i'm theorycrafting an infernal necromancer and i really love to get cursed for CS idols
ashen bluff
as I said there's uniques that do it too
ashen bluff
you know I know that but I keep forgettin it <_<
hushed dew
xd
lost gale
is there any way to curse myself without spending a skill slot?
there's a really bad shield which puts marked for death on you every 5th kill
otherwise you have bone curse aura, curses attached to bone curse and torment, all of which require you to specialise a skill afaik
hushed dew
oh thanks
that shield indeed looks horrible
i guess i should give up cast speed while curse
lost gale
i guess i should give up cast speed while curse
it's more of a warlock thing i'm afraid, or bone curse + amulet at least
hushed dew
yeah i wish i had 1 more skill slot
ashen bluff
what you got
terse vault
Was really hoping I could do a madness build with abandoned eyes of the weaver.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgHALArBQ
Just found out it's impossible because corrupting a set item appears to always make a normal item with the set bonus affix.
And int to madness conversion corruption is only available on amulets.
stuck owlBOT
ashen bluff
tried corruptin a rare you've crafted the set mod on? <_<
terse vault
tried corruptin a rare you've crafted the set mod on? <_<
I don't want the set bonus though. I want all the crit stuff on the amulet.
Stacking madness would give lots of crit multi and also get decent crit chance from the amulet.
Edit: I'm dumb. Just looked it up and the crit chance for attributes is on the affix shard for it. Oops lol
crystal escarp
does corrupting rings always change their base type? 🥲
crystal escarp
oh wait for set items maybe
for 2nd try didn't get any new stat and its stayed same
on 3rd try it made all stats max and base not changed , seems all on luck 🥲
wintry flame
<@225417895038025729> hmm, rip blood warlock (which is upper A tier in maxroll) ...
That’s nice, maybe I test bees today
willow verge
when exactly are my minions getting tot he nont dead part?
Found a solution? Maybe throw some minion hp affixes?
storm berry
if I turn infernal shade into a ground aoe and make it only attach to minions, Does that mean it will attach to all my minions that walk over it and give them the buff
muted mist
if I turn infernal shade into a ground aoe and make it only attach to minions, D...
Ground conversion takes priority. Overrides the minion nodes
storm berry
Ground conversion takes priority. Overrides the minion nodes
thanks I appreciate it!
warm tinsel
is mad alcemist laddle bugged, wtf i cant get it
torpid adder
Found a solution? Maybe throw some minion hp affixes?
removed drain life and moved shade to enemys
willow verge
removed drain life and moved shade to enemys
good right now?
torpid adder
good right now?
meh
cant even run base line empowered
i mean "can" but might aswell sit sit on a spike
willow verge
hum. kind wanna make that build. probably make the vomit zombies instead
pearl snow
I think moving Dread Shade to enemies on Vomit Zombies is the play
exotic widget
just me or is it giga laggy right now?
turbid kayak
can you use lich form in town or it goes away when TP
obtuse quest
can you use lich form in town or it goes away when TP
You can't use skills in town
Are you offline?
shadow valley
that bumble bee rare hurts 
strange plume
respecced into the rip blood build...man that feels ass i dont like that at all XD
lucid plover
Does the Scornful Blood lich passive stop you from gaining life from your leech?
abstract summit
random vessel
respecced into the rip blood build...man that feels ass i dont like that at all ...
yeah it's kinda dogshit imo
strange plume
yeah it's kinda dogshit imo
honestly turned me off haha gonna try rogue or something
obtuse quest
Does the Scornful Blood lich passive stop you from gaining life from your leech?
Yes.
You just do more damage instead.
obtuse quest
Can't relate, all my plans are ruined (As expected) so I'm just playing something else until I get ash
ashen bluff
I need to start to actually stackin mana
brazen steppe
queen bee meme or op?
ashen bluff
you tell us, I'm not playing it
shadow valley
I've looked at the odds on letools that it's 1 in 612 to drop lp3 of brewbuckle. Got sad, decided to keep farming it anyway ( I have a 2 lp). Next echo it drops xD
brazen steppe
you tell us, I'm not playing it
it seems to be a meme but there might be a good scaling to it
ashen bluff
I've looked at the odds on letools that it's 1 in 612 to drop lp3 of brewbuckle....
gratz, now just need a double t7 to be worth slammin
shadow valley
naah
t6 and 2xt5 and ill be happy, Its not like im gonna play it for longer than a week
ashen bluff
logic doesn't comply farmin for a 3lp after you got a 2lp then
shadow valley
I'm consciously dodging optimized or otherwise strictly logical gameplay
honest meteor
K found a decent Blood rip lich build, at least this works while i try and find everything else
vital cave
How would adaptive +4 spell damage affect these stats; +1 phys AND +1 poison? +0.5 each?
vernal fern
What builds are people happy with ?
shadow valley
loving HS mage minion build
army yoo
last league I played flay lich, it's very zoomy
random vessel
rip blood might be the weakest feeling acolyte starter I've ever played, it is impressively bad without items
obtuse quest
How would adaptive +4 spell damage affect these stats; +1 phys AND +1 poison? +0...
+.5 each, +2 +2 per second
torpid adder
is there a way to know how much mana ill have when rerolling before i reroll?
le tool calc doesnt look like it accounts for it properly
obtuse quest
Pen and paper I guess?
mortal niche
Does anyone have a video of malicious rip blood during actual mapping? the shop video doesnt show how it looks when the screen is full of vfx
obtuse quest
LETools are your best estimate
torpid adder
ye like i said it seems its not calculating it
when i add idols mana stays the same
wait
nvm
my mouse has backstabed me
obtuse quest
🤣
torpid adder
it did change the mana prefix to lightning res
or dmg
ok i will need ALOT of stuff to get to 600 mana
for mana flay
damn
if only the idols would drop lol
or does anyone know if i even need to have that much to do baseline empowered monos
void saffron
Man, i wish you could do a good flay build that wasn't on the reaper form timer. I loved flicker strike in PoE. But really don't want to do a "go-go-go" playstyle, want to be able to stop and sift through stuff on the ground.
torpid adder
was originally planning on the chaosbolt build
but thought i can use that one run to get the gloves
so the gloves have time to drop untill i roll into flay lol
obtuse quest
Man, i wish you could do a good flay build that wasn't on the reaper form timer....
You'll do nothing damage wise because reaper form is literally the core of Lich
pearl snow
Can't relate, all my plans are ruined (As expected) so I'm just playing somethin...
What happened now 
pearl snow
Man, i wish you could do a good flay build that wasn't on the reaper form timer....
Flicker is literally GO GO GO in all caps
torpid adder
eh flicker doesnt have amandatory timer where you cant stop
obtuse quest
What happened now <:tom:570776954974896128>
Whips do necrotic, Mage HS self hurt tech I'm not smart enough to abuse-
obtuse quest
eh flicker doesnt have amandatory timer where you cant stop
Because you'll be forced to stop only when the whole map is dead, you then can walk back and collect what you want
pearl snow
Whips do necrotic, Mage HS self hurt tech I'm not smart enough to abuse-
You could Phys whip but thats not as fun big true. Pyre Golem? Or maybe you try Sanguine Orb and shatter golem
lost gale
Whips do necrotic, Mage HS self hurt tech I'm not smart enough to abuse-
try to make a good destruction engine build 
torpid adder
Because you'll be forced to stop only when the whole map is dead, you then can w...
not really lol
obtuse quest
try to make a good destruction engine build <:Gregory:1328320850675630224>
Get well soon
lost gale
Get well soon
never
weak atlas
Which loot filters do you guys have or use? I play coop and would love something that helps me to better tune gear to be more focused on the class . Currently I’m just hiding normal and common loot.
obtuse quest
Which loot filters do you guys have or use? I play coop and would love something...
Generally you build/find one suited for the build you're going for
weak atlas
Agreed agreed..
obtuse quest
You could Phys whip but thats not as fun big true. Pyre Golem? Or maybe you try ...
I'm doing summonbearquake rn lmao
weak atlas
Generally you build/find one suited for the build you're going for
True I want some filtering but not trying to miss godlies from other classes
obtuse quest
That's... going to take a lot of rules
calm dome
Does the poison chance on vomit convert to damned chance if I convert zombie to necrotic damage?
wintry flame
Does the poison chance on vomit convert to damned chance if I convert zombie to ...
yes
lean escarp
When I take the node Marrow Caster from Marrow Shards Skill Tree, does the node Bone Knives has any effect since it is a nova now arround caster
lost gale
True I want some filtering but not trying to miss godlies from other classes
I'd look for a content creator who plays trade & shares their loot filter then customise it for your build
lost gale
When I take the node Marrow Caster from Marrow Shards Skill Tree, does the node ...
yes bone knives increases the damage of splinter nova, but splintering impact won't do anything useful if you have marrow caster
turbid kayak
for slamming strength on my items, like chest, i gotta take acolyte chest and swap the int to str first?
shadow valley
True I want some filtering but not trying to miss godlies from other classes
try raxx filter
it's doesn't come already set, mind you, but it has a good base for it
although...now that I think of it, GM focused filter would be way more detailed >.<
torpid adder
how bad of an idea would i tbe to reroll in to flay before i have anywhere near 500 mana
shadow valley
why do you even push for it that hard
you can get most them 1 lp uniques without a build
torpid adder
becasue my current build is as pleasent to play as sitting on a stick
shadow valley
well going flay without mana aint much better
I do remember playing it early and breezing, but that was a reroll from from abom and I can't remember for shit what I had or not
torpid adder
just wanna be able to run normal empowered monos
shadow valley
try it 🙂
lean escarp
@lost gale thx for replay. Bone Knives says "but no longer pierce" since it is a Nova now, it doenst matter I guess
weak atlas
although...now that I think of it, GM focused filter would be way more detailed ...
Where do I get that or raxx one?
shadow valley
Where do I get that or raxx one?
should be in video description
along with a manual guide what's what
weak atlas
should be in video description
Tyvm
shadow valley
if you want to make riches from trading, you will have to open maxroll, check the S/A tier guides and see what their farming, uniques and slams
weak atlas
if you want to make riches from trading, you will have to open maxroll, check th...
I’m playing coop so more focused on improving myself, partner, getting loot for other builds than trading per se
shadow valley
great, for that it's fine
brazen steppe
rip blood might be the weakest feeling acolyte starter I've ever played, it is i...
Rip blood with auto casted marrow shards is okay till empowered monos with ssf gear just grab all cast speed
random vessel
it's fine, but comparatively feels pretty awful vs other builds I've played
like basically any of the dot builds I've played on warlock and lich feel infinitely better early on
brazen steppe
Im switching from rip blood marrow shard lich to abom necro
random vessel
needing to stand and cast to get your damage out is a huge weakness early on when you have scuffed defenses
vs more ranged builds or more mobile builds being able to overcome lack of defense
turbid kayak
for abom litch putting strength on helmet/chest via slam requires first making the int into strength right , from acolyt ebase items
using weaver map
buoyant abyss
Hey guys, just returning to the game and wanted to make a fly lit, I assume the best leveling path would be warlock fissure? Or is there a good leveling lich build?
shadow valley
fissure best, but you can do lich no problem
check out lizardirl's guide on lich leveling
abstract summit
what would be the point when crit mages could start hard carrying alone without support from pyre golem / zombies? couple big minion CDR idols?
the last two skill slots are kinda tough to choose between golem/AoD/zombies/CB lol
shadow valley
I've looked at the odds on letools that it's 1 in 612 to drop lp3 of brewbuckle....
nemesis egg gave me ....another 3lp buckle 😛
its gonna be corrupted real good
BEER TIME
quiet seal
I need a refresher on snapshotting: If I wear an item with +1 to all skills, and +5 to int. and assign that skill point, summon my minion and then swap out that item for something else missing those stats, will the minion dynamically change to remove the added skill tree point and the effect of the +5 int?
wintry flame
for Necro, if points are added or removed from tree it will trigger a refresh and/or you make changes to the max of minions
although in some cases these won't trigger a refresh like in the case of max mages on blight
it's kind of hit or miss
shadow valley
oh shit just realized I hadn't corrupted any idols
quiet seal
Thanks @wintry flame appreciate it
brazen steppe
anyone here playing abom, is soul reave+ infernal flame or non-soul reave+aura of decay(for phys res, armor break) abom setup is better?
on paper aura of decay seems stronger but even with 75% res, ur abom will 1 shot everything with necrotic dmg soul reave
turbid kayak
is there any more degeneracy for Abom build? Like snap shotting gear
wintry flame
max degenerate is snapshotting Lich's scorn set and respeccing dread shade for 2x shade
could also snapshot Bone Curse now lmao since I figured that out and run another skill
brazen steppe
max degenerate is snapshotting Lich's scorn set and respeccing dread shade for 2...
isnt shade always reset when entering new zone?
wintry flame
yupp, but monolith is one zone
brazen steppe
yupp, but monolith is one zone
yep but if abom 1 shots basically everything (1 hit), then all that matters is m.spd and atk spd and aoe for faster clear
technically with snapshots u just gain more dmg not speed
brazen steppe
does snapshotting skeleton+infernal shade works?
summon abom with skele 14 points should be enough
then respec infernal shade 10 points needed
quiet seal
I just went down the rabbit hole with the planner - I managed lvl 37 skele mage with 5600+ mana ........ that would be +1800% dmg and +280 flat spell lol
wintry flame
does snapshotting skeleton+infernal shade works?
you can snapshot infernal shade easily yeah
it last infinitely
lost gale
summon abom with skele 14 points should be enough
I think if you change the max number of a minion which abom is made from then abom gets unsummoned
could be mistaken tho
brazen steppe
you can snapshot infernal shade easily yeah
i guess it lasts until abom dies/logout/player dies
lost gale
i guess it lasts until abom dies/logout/player dies
it lasts until you leave the monolith timeline you're doing I think
tired tendon
Having a lot of fun playing fire minion build no issues at all really almost level 80
Got the bee set on
vocal yoke
what's the meta warlock build - dot specific
brazen steppe
Not using idol slots for flame wraith has worked so far
if u dont have that then u rely on 22% chance to summon flame wraith and kinda rippy
tired tendon
if u dont have that then u rely on 22% chance to summon flame wraith and kinda r...
Just using them to melee hit and stack dots
calm dome
I transitioned into minion necrotic dot on Necro and it feels nice tbh
tired tendon
Indeed
turbid kayak
gear snapshotting is gone right, but the skills work?
ashen bluff
Did I mention when talking about the zombies earlier that you can also take them off your skill bar entirely and the ones summoned remain as long as they stay alive? Didn't check if ressurect works
gritty drum
i wonder if a 17 minion abom is better than two Aron's will golems to run alongside deathknights
wintry flame
Did I mention when talking about the zombies earlier that you can also take them...
yeah that works. It's one reason you can go 20 minions on abom still
ashen bluff
god the bugs just keep mountin
turbid kayak
should I do that abom setup as soon as i get the skill
ashen bluff
yeah that works. It's one reason you can go 20 minions on abom still
can't cdr stack on my dot setup at all
fully bricks the zombies
there's a point where stackin cast speed would probably brick em too
echo coral
On my dagger 😭
ashen bluff
yeah the brick options hurt
gritty drum
the giant zombie node is bad right?
ashen bluff
no its more dmg
wintry flame
can't cdr stack on my dot setup at all
damn that sucks 🙁
ashen bluff
Eh I'm shreddin at 250c with 490 mana without cdr
hope they fix it by the time I need it
calm dome
Did I mention when talking about the zombies earlier that you can also take them...
Oh dang this is good to know. I was kind of racking my brains on how to get zombies absorbed and have the other 4 needed to get that one node bonus
abstract summit
Eh I'm shreddin at 250c with 490 mana without cdr
you have a link to your planner pretty please? zombies are also kinda growing on me
warped folio
Anyone playing lich fire aura? I following build thats seems like RF poe
turbid kayak
are the final greater omens supposed to be hard? get 1 shot in that
hidden sable
are the final greater omens supposed to be hard? get 1 shot in that
I do fine with like 24% DR + 4k health + like 700 ward per sec
sly forge
btw
why does maxroll's phys whip need cast speed?
isn't it's just better to replace cast speed with bleed chance?
turbid kayak
I do fine with like 24% DR + 4k health + like 700 ward per sec
oh im only lvl 60
maybe im not supposed to do them this low?
also how do i make them not put my PC's fps to 10
glass cedar
Am I crazy because I can't get more than 2 skeletal mages even with the talent node. How many should we be able to get?
wintry flame
2 base, 1 from mastery, 1 from skill, 1 from passive, and 2 from staff
hollow acorn
No Golem builds on maxor? what a shame this is
pearl furnace
Is this node worth anything if you are running a cold minion build?
wintry flame
Is this node worth anything if you are running a cold minion build?
yeah it's good
pearl furnace
yeah it's good
any opinions on this node?
tired tendon
Now I want to do cold lol still working on fire
pearl furnace
I'm trying to make ash and fire node work
tired tendon
Did cold like a year or so ago it was fun but I made it horrible
pearl furnace
Already died once in hc haha
tired tendon
Dang
pearl furnace
Got to comfortable doing one of those mirrors
honest meteor
I just can't drop a Traitor's Tongue or a Mad Alchemist Ladle, dear lord
wintry flame
any opinions on this node?
probably good if you're going DoT
turbid kayak
i think i made a bitg mistake going MG
pearl furnace
probably good if you're going DoT
DoT is definitely not the focus. More of a side effect because new skeleton cold archer rework they now apply frostbite dot
turbid kayak
can't afford anything and im stuck
tired tendon
I didn't know archers had cold update
pearl furnace
I didn't know archers had cold update
Fire arrow and cold arrow now change base attack is now the element each has ignite or frostbite chance
Then there is new node beyond it called ash and frost
tired tendon
Yeah I have mine fire but been long time since I looked at cold nodes
pearl furnace
That lets them randomly do either arrow and adds 30% dot chance
tired tendon
Hmmm wondering if it be worth have the cold added on in my build
willow verge
Current Char: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApbW4dmR
Me yapping about l...
How your character is going? ok? im strugling a bit. can u help me. trying to do the zombie fire technique
stuck owlBOT
willow verge
can someone give some tips?
trim oar
Flesh Harvest:
Dread shade grants increased effects of all its buffs for each 3% of missing minion health
The buff effect increase applies to all the minions within the aura , right ?
pearl snow
How your character is going? ok? im strugling a bit. can u help me. trying to do...
Ill help in a few minutes, but im going strong. Hasnt felt off yet and im in empowered monos
Didnt even get ash wake until recently
abstract summit
is it worth investing into vomit when everything else on the build is mostly fire?
willow verge
Ill help in a few minutes, but im going strong. Hasnt felt off yet and im in emp...
no problem
sly forge
hi guy, if I take the hellfire node for infernal shade then does the purgatory node also work?
pearl snow
is it worth investing into vomit when everything else on the build is mostly fir...
yes because vomit does is converted if you take the fire node. Also fire dmg buffs ignite
abstract summit
yes because vomit does is converted if you take the fire node. Also fire dmg buf...
hoolly i completely missed the fire conversion node lmao
pearl snow
no problem
damage wise its not feeling right? because this does look fairly on point with what I was running in campaign and I was breezing through everything
in theory you could just drop the vomit nodes from zombies this early and go for the damage nodes first and just keep spam summoning them since theyll explode once you hit 6
abstract summit
what will you drop for AOD at the end, golem?
pearl snow
yeah
willow verge
damage wise its not feeling right? because this does look fairly on point with w...
ive made some changes and its better now. i just keep the fire golem or get the aura of decay instead?
also. i dont get why are we stacking fire res
pearl snow
ive made some changes and its better now. i just keep the fire golem or get the ...
dont bother with AoD unless you can keep it up the whole time, honestly
Fire res is because of AoD once you get it
it reduces your res = int
sly forge
hi guy, if I take the hellfire node for infernal shade then does the purgatory n...
anyone tested this?
pearl snow
ive made some changes and its better now. i just keep the fire golem or get the ...
couple of changes if you want, since we dont have mana high yet in campaign you can drop vomit for dmg nodes in zombies.
Mages you should get the CDR nodes next prob for more HS casts, and Pyre is just gunna vibe.
If you feel like your minions are constantly lagging behind grab the movment speed node on your golem its just under your first node for attack speed
Since you said you made some changes and its better thats good
What did you change?
willow verge
dont bother with AoD unless you can keep it up the whole time, honestly
when i should change to AOD?
willow verge
couple of changes if you want, since we dont have mana high yet in campaign you ...
yeah. i think i will just drop de vomit points and take the damage ones at the zombie tree
at least until i get some mana
get the giant zombie node?
pearl snow
when i should change to AOD?
I changed super late buy you can do as early as near end campaign prob
pearl snow
get the giant zombie node?
Yeah the AoE increase is super nice plus dmg
fiery light
Why is abomination unable to be put on a keybind?
abstract summit
one zombo is like 30% less damage on the DK souls right
so it has a little opportunity cost
pearl snow
Big zombo should be a more multiplier if I remember right
pearl snow
Why is abomination unable to be put on a keybind?
Do you have it unlocked
pearl snow
I have it specialised the skill is lvl16.
Did you redo your passives recently
Like character passives
pearl snow
🫡
willow verge
I changed super late buy you can do as early as near end campaign prob
got 50 now. will try
just de-specialize golem?
pearl snow
That early it might be best to keep golem and use the level 50 on AoD. Dread Shade might just kill your minions early
Try out AoD for now and if its bad or you die just drop it for Shade
pearl snow
got 50 now. will try
^
edgy yew
What are warlocks running this season? I saw a guide on le tools but one of the cons was “squishy “ and I’m too dumb to play squishy builds 😆
willow verge
Try out AoD for now and if its bad or you die just drop it for Shade
dread shade?
pearl snow
Yeah
willow verge
ok. im runnin rn: HS, golem, Mages, zombies and shade.
pearl snow
If shade works for you thats great
weak atlas
I put points into warlock bu the mastery skill didn’t unlock / why?
pearl snow
Mine killed minions early
pearl snow
I put points into warlock bu the mastery skill didn’t unlock / why?
Mastery skill is what you choose not what you put points in
You want Fissure? Your mastery has to be Lock
weak atlas
You want Fissure? Your mastery has to be Lock
Ya I put 9 points into it but it locked?
azure tide
abomination is so crazy LOL first time not playing mage and this thing just 1 taps bosses
pearl snow
What are warlocks running this season? I saw a guide on le tools but one of the ...
All of Acolyte is “squishy” compared to others. But Lich has some good defensives and offense if you get enough gear. Necro can make it so they can build less dmg for more tankiness
pearl snow
Ya I put 9 points into it but it locked?
What mastery did you choose at level 20ish in the campaign?
weak atlas
What mastery did you choose at level 20ish in the campaign?
Probably necro how do I undo that
azure tide
this is at level 79 with no blessings no idols and like half assed end game gear LOL 10/10 recommend
pearl snow
Probably necro how do I undo that
Any Skill Resepecialization noc can do it for a gold fee. The purple brain icon on your minimap inside some of the town hubs
weak atlas
Any Skill Resepecialization noc can do it for a gold fee. The purple brain icon ...
Ah I respected there but how do I remove the master from necro from brain person?
pearl snow
There should be 2 options 1 is “master points” and the other is like respec “mastery specialization” or “mastery”
weak atlas
Got it Ty
pearl snow
Ah I respected there but how do I remove the master from necro from brain person...
If you dont see it try traveling to the “End of Time” town hub
edgy yew
All of Acolyte is “squishy” compared to others. But Lich has some good defensive...
but fissure is so cool lol. I shall try. Actually I think your build was the one I was looking at letools
pearl snow
but fissure is so cool lol. I shall try. Actually I think your build was the one...
Oh sick flame whip?
edgy yew
Oh sick flame whip?
this https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/witchfire-warlock Unless the name is a coincidence
edgy yew
how squishy is that
pearl snow
how squishy is that
Depends how you build it, Im usually on the defensive side of things by using shields and block as an extra layer.
But this league with AoD you can probably get a bit more defensive.
you could in theory completely drop the amulet for more defensive options too
edgy yew
I shall try it. I got to monoliths with the VK auto bomber from Allie_ and it's a great build but I may fall asleep playing it because there's a limit of how much running around pressing one button I can do
pearl snow
If you truly wanted to be more tanky which isnt to say you wont die. Ignore my use of Wall of Nothing and grab Null Portent once its found.
Side note you could swap CB for like Hungering souls and go low life and turn off your leech but thats a whole thing
edgy yew
not smart enough to decide those things. Will check the guide and RFC it (Read and Follow Carefully, old 90s computer joke. You welcome)
pearl snow
not smart enough to decide those things. Will check the guide and RFC it (Read a...
lmao nice, just let me know if you get super stuck for whatever reason. Always welcome for improvements for the guide
modern timber
anyone doing rip blood warlock?
pearl snow
I keep seeing people say they are swapping off it lol
modern timber
I keep seeing people say they are swapping off it lol
LOL im tryna figure out what makes it S tier
u only do damage if u crit
and u dont crit that much
imo
pearl snow
Maxroll confuses me so much with LE
I dont think anyone thinks its S Tier imma be honest
modern timber
Maxroll confuses me so much with LE
are u playing lich chaos bolt?
pearl snow
Nah, im going ignite zombies atm
modern timber
nice
pearl snow
im a psychotic CB enjoyer I like self cast
modern timber
its weird tho if u look at the rip blood planner theres only * one crit multi LP roll
i feel like this build needs to stack crit
nvm theres crit chance on the helmet
i think thats the most important roll on the planner
honest bronze
this Necromancer skill with 3 points replace melee damage to throwing or work like added bonus?
knotty cave
laser lich playable these days still?
willow verge
Man. Why double mana weaver idols os costing 1milion?
pearl snow
very rare
willow verge
Probably will get cheaper through first week
plush creek
want to confirm that deathknights hungering souls scales off of player stats not minion stats?
pearl snow
want to confirm that deathknights hungering souls scales off of player stats not...
no
it just casts from your tree
using*
willow verge
Guess I'll need to go with simple mana idols
plush creek
ok, I was looking through old messages and that's what I thought they were saying
old hull
Probably will get cheaper through first week
Aside from being rare, they are probably pretty high demand
pearl snow
ok, I was looking through old messages and that's what I thought they were sayin...
might have been talking about the refleciton / cast on being hit node which looks like its working based off player stats
dunno if its a bug
sly forge
@wintry flame
Changed to Doublet of Onos Tull instead of pale ox
a bit less tanky but 10 sec less uber kill time (maxed offline gear)
but the build is still strong by stacking strength and shield anyway
plush creek
ok, I was also having an issue with them not casting the sacrifice spell on vanguards summon through passive tree, or by zombie node
sly forge
now it's on par with rip blood warlock
plush creek
is that bugged or just wonky priority?
willow verge
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Is this a flame wraith build?
wintry flame
it's spectres
pearl snow
the way I never see Shades in my monoliths is so toxic
wintry flame
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bee necro with potions is quite a bit of damage (60m+) but it relies on potions, need to find a version that doesn't rely on them
willow verge
Do u guys think this season will last at least a month? Last season was like only 15 days of fun
wintry flame
@sly forge https://streamable.com/qhnkbn
This gear: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/zu6giz0e#4
I had the set mace instead of the reforged one like planner and I had the bee corrupts on idols.
sly forge
<@524891324802007050> https://streamable.com/qhnkbn
This gear: https://maxroll....
hmm
i don't like needing to use potion
sly forge
can't we use pyramid altar with 5x bee omen affixes?
wintry flame
yeah I didn't optimize this yet. just tested the initial planner
sly forge
also replace the armor with Doublet of Onos Tull
wintry flame
can't replace armor
sly forge
why?
wintry flame
nah the bee set is bees are immune for 4 secs
so you need 2 pieces of the set
it's cata, mace, or body armor
wintry flame
they are pretty weak and only last 10 secs
sly forge
it is a set build
wintry flame
it's not worth investing in them
wintry flame
like the survivability
sly forge
A+ tier?
quiet seal
So you guys are saying this node won't work for my mana stacking? (on mage cast)
sly forge
hmm
wintry flame
cause that's A+ but inconsistent
sly forge
I guess I won't try bee
since bee does not fit the theme of necro very much
but did you really have 60m+ dmg per sec?
and did you snapshot?
sly forge
oh
hmm tough here
we need a layer of defense
first I think we can replace the current belt with brewmaster
also do you consider going queen bee?
wintry flame
I have planners for it. haven't tested
wintry flame
idk what would be better
sly forge
it scales with strength and attunement