💀┃acolyte

[obtuse totem]

Why couldnt this be a sentinel helm instead, hah

[sweet spade]

hmm... uberoth normal melee kicks me out of reaper

wtf

1.2k armor, 50% endurance

res cap ofc

i guess im just missing full wall of idols?

[versed fox]

that doesn't seem quite right

are you sure it wasn't a dodgeable and the kill cam is just being wonky?

[vapid belfry]

Corruption?

[sweet spade]

it says melee on death thingo

[sweet spade]

600, but uberroth isn't affected by corruption

[vapid belfry]

Oh that's an uberoth herald?

[sweet spade]

that's the name of uberoth

[vapid belfry]

Bruh I read herald and immediately thought of harbinger

I need some glasses fr

[versed fox]

yeah I'm wondering if it might be donked up

(you can't swear here?)

[sweet spade]

ya it's blocked

[versed fox]

I don't remember that 😭 but w/e

have you ran it back?

[sweet spade]

it bonked me out of reaper twice with melee

so not sure what's going on, probably cause i don't have full idols yet - but still

[vapid belfry]

Damn item might actually be good at lp3, gratz

[versed fox]

interesting

I'm still on my way to aberroth this season so 🤷

[obtuse totem]

isnt the "convert ignite to ward" basically useless because theres basically no way to get more than like, 3 stacks of ignite on yourself?

ignite to damned*

[north lance]

Firsttime to see it

[versed fox]

there's the belt that ignites yourself with every ability use

[obtuse totem]

thats the only self ignite

[versed fox]

it also frenzies you

oh

[obtuse totem]

and ignite is so short duration you can only get a few stacks

[versed fox]

I thought there was a chest

ahh

that makes sense

[obtuse totem]

the belt basically feels like just a "you get frenzy" situation

because god knows how you expect to get 20 stacks to get hte max spell damage bonus

you'd have to roll it at 100% and somehow have like 6 or 7 attacks per second

[charred ridge]

you can easily get 10+ stacks

and i thought they bricked maehlin's hubris bleed>ignite conversion (you can use spirit plague to self bleed, and hubris to self ignite instead) but apparently it still works

that thing gets you 50+ stacks

that's why the belt is capped at 20 stacks now

cus EHG likes being a party pooper

[obtuse totem]

hard to fit that into a flay CB harvest build though :P

[charred ridge]

ye im just saying

[thick whale]

how do I farm evolution's end fast?

[charred ridge]

but even 10-13 stacks is good for 20+ flat dmg

[charred ridge]

i think u just have to suffer

[thick whale]

?

[obtuse totem]

just keep finding the beast and killing it and evolving

thats the only way

[charred ridge]

i mean i dont think there's a way besides finding the encounter 20+ times

[thick whale]

ughhh... so I just need to complete echoes as fast as possible?
I coul run them at 100 Cr lol

[charred ridge]

you should probably just play normally

and be patient i guess

rushing it doesnt sound like a pleasant experience

and it would be highly unproductive in other areas

[craggy flax]

Does Maehlin's gloves turn Aura of Decay Bleed chance into ignites?

[charred ridge]

one way to find out

[gentle bear]

Anyone running necrotic damage harvest lich? What are the best uniques that people are using?

[grim rune]

ok im back, ill tryt to record now @charred ridge

[misty crater]

What are the thoughts on just using cleaver solution for abom Necro and stacking strength for armor instead?

Already using ox on that build iirc that has like 15 str which is more than you get (as int) from Necro passives anyways

[grim rune]

90% of my deaths

i dont even know what killed me

[versed fox]

I have also been trying to figure that out

I think it's the blue orb

[grim rune]

that's so dumb

do i have to bait even futher

?

[charred ridge]

did you see my vids

don't go in after killing the harbinger

you died to an ice ball from the blackhole

you need to prevent him from even casting a blackhole

[grim rune]

how XD

so i wait for abby?

[charred ridge]

https://youtu.be/BV3DWS4N-ec

just stay far

don't go near him until he's casting the fireballs

then transplant to him, get him down to 50% (sometimes you'll go straight to 34%)

then do the same thing, move away, wait until he's casting lightning strikes

and transplant to him get him down to 34%

kill the 2nd harbinger, he'll do the necrotic waves, transplant behind him phase him and kill him

[brazen wigeon]

how is that lich bugged?

[charred ridge]

marrow shards do 100x their dmg

[brazen wigeon]

why and how

[charred ridge]

extra zeroes in the code i guess?

😂

flay boots make mshards benefit from deadly plot (flay multiplier) twice

so that's 5-10x more dmg already

[brazen wigeon]

I don't have skin yet

[charred ridge]

and then there's some extra zeroes in the minion sacrifice nodes

in mshard

[brazen wigeon]

actualy I'm doing necromancer but I got lich as well

I don't understand this one...

40% of my increased damage gives me leech or what

[grim rune]

nah bro, this blackhole is bullshit

seems like i cannot stab him that fast to 50%

[charred ridge]

you got him stuck in the fire ball animation?

if you can't burst him to 50% during fireballs then you're lacking dmg

and i gave you tips earlier regarding gear upgrades for better dmg

[brazen wigeon]

Just carry him xD

[charred ridge]

40% increased: "damage leeched as health"

your "damage leeched as health" is increased by 40%

you leech 40% more

[brazen wigeon]

so basicaly 40% more leech of what I have

[charred ridge]

yeah

[grim rune]

yep

need more dmg

[charred ridge]

yeah just follow the gearing steps i gave you

[brazen wigeon]

how that lich would fare without reaper form and going hollow lich instead?

[charred ridge]

why would you wanna not have reaper form?

i guess the most important thing without reaper form is to get your 100% increased crit back

so you'd lose an affix

[brazen wigeon]

for example going 70% missing health to ward

but I would have to ditch dmg to mana from ekkidrasil

[charred ridge]

reaper form is just like basically 150% crit multi worth of stats give or take

[brazen wigeon]

20% T7 on gloves, 15% last steps of living, 20% exsanguinous and 10% acolyte tree

[charred ridge]

you can go ward it's surely fine

try it and lmk

mana stacking lich?

[brazen wigeon]

I wonder how strong this is

[charred ridge]

33% more dmg

so it's strong

for single target anyway

[brazen wigeon]

I need smth to reliably kill ubberoth, couldn't do it last season even on void knight and paladin

I hate the fact that 2 items are gatelocked like that from me

[charred ridge]

well

[amber oxide]

Can someone explain how to best approach crafting this dagger for the Mana Flay build?

Do I need to Havoc the Melee Necro damage on here, but then how do I attempt to get it to T8?

[charred ridge]

sentinel was the easiest ethical class to do uber on last season

not sure why you couldn't get it down

not enough time to farm the required gear, or mechanical issue?

mana stacking lich is way stronger than VK was last patch though at least with the mshard bug

but i think without it as well

so if you're willing to spend maybe 30-70 hours on the game depending how efficient you are you'll surely be able to kill uber

[charred ridge]

no need to havoc that dagger, the necro is already t7

[brazen wigeon]

I just plain suck at this game

[charred ridge]

just get one of those runes

and it'll go to t8

then craft the item as you would any other item

[amber oxide]

Oh amazing I just got one of those. Do I need to add another affix onto it or am I good?

[charred ridge]

ya idk then

i mean

whats the reason you couldnt kill him last patch

[charred ridge]

no you're good just use it

then craft as normal

[amber oxide]

my man! thanks @charred ridge , you're always answering my questions i appreciate it

[charred ridge]

make it t8 then add armor shred then add crit multi or melee aspd or smth

np

[brazen wigeon]

very low dmg on paladin, and random one-shots on void knight

[charred ridge]

if you have it in you to farm this gear you can kill it in 1 minute and it won't really attack you

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjVOOOPB

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,237, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,850.54, Regen: 20.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 117%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 6 Dex / 46 Int / 6 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 61% / 61% / 61% / 80% / 6% / 53% / 13%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 778
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (960)

Used skills:

Flay / Harvest / Marrow Shards / Reaper Form / Chaos Bolts

[charred ridge]

(the gloves dont have to be triple exalted it's just what i had, you can actually get better gloves with only 1 exalt)

[grim rune]

where would u put 4 points for echo farming atm?

im going back to gear farm

and btw @charred ridge , thanks for tips

[charred ridge]

corrupted form still nice for perma leech in maps

if you do hp based defense

just remove accursed feast cause it makes your leech 1 second instead of 3

[grim rune]

oh

ah ye it's more offensive

[charred ridge]

yep

[brazen wigeon]

this not working when thing is a spell is so stupid

[brisk elk]

If you have both a skill ailment conversion (such as bleed-> damned with flay) and an item conversion (such as the gloves that convert everything to bleed) which one takes priority

[charred ridge]

im rocking this in maps rn

[grim rune]

u are not afraid of DoT dmg

[charred ridge]

yep as the description states

[grim rune]

passing ward xd?

[charred ridge]

"hitting one enemy with the melee attack"

spell flay doesnt have a melee attack

[charred ridge]

why would i be you have infinite leech and sustain

[grim rune]

welll

[charred ridge]

literally if you have hit something in the past 3 seconds you cannot die to anything that isn't a one shot

even facetanking uber's void rectangle

[brisk elk]

I was wondering if you can get extra value for carrion of creation by converting to other elements first and having them converted back to bleed

[charred ridge]

also DoT dmg passing ward doesnt really mean anything cus i dont have ward xdd

[charred ridge]

only one way to know

im not very knowledgeable when it comes to dots

[brisk elk]

Like there's a lot of things that say "damned chance for necrotic skills" for example

[charred ridge]

so iuno but you can definitely test it

[brisk elk]

Also rip blood

If necrotic rip blood can apply bleed with carrion it's much stronger

[pearl snow]

You cant convert twice

[brisk elk]

I'll have to test

Ok so how does it work

What happens if you wear carrion and use a necrotic converted rip blood

[pearl snow]

Anything that adds DoT chance will be converted after any conversions on the skill tree.

If you have Rip Blood but use the damned chance for necrotic skills you may have to test specifically but it shouldn’t convert. I know in the past for maehlins things like that didnt work

Damned to bleed for CB never gets converted to ignite for example

[brisk elk]

Wait so it would apply bleed or damned?

[pearl snow]

It should apply damned

[brisk elk]

Ok

What about uncoverted ailment chance within the tree

[pearl snow]

I havent messed with the new gloves though but I assume they follow similar rules to maelins

Unconverted should work I think

[brisk elk]

Like if cb says chance to ignite on hit that will be bleed?

Or wtv

[pearl snow]

From my understanding all DoT chance is allowed 1 convert

But certain chance only applies to X on hit and may miss the conversion

[brisk elk]

Hm

I will have to buy a pair of carrion and test it

[elder hamlet]

Running Abomination necro build and somehow between last night and this morning my Abomination stopped healing? I dont recall changing any items or skills but just constantly dying in the same zones I was farming yesterday. Any ideas what could have changed?

[brisk elk]

That's a lot of extra ailment chance within the tree if it does get converted yk

[pearl snow]

True

I think Carrion should convert all ignite and damned on CBs tree as long as you never take the nodes to convert them to frostbite or bleed specifically

But like if you convert to bleed anyways then its the same

[brisk elk]

Another reason why I was asking is because it doesn't mention electrify

So I was wondering if sentinels could convert electrify to other stuff and then to bleed but it sounds like that doesn't work

[brazen wigeon]

what about turning chaos bolts physical or cold and nerfing cold resistance by intelligence with aura of decay?

[rapid cloud]

Does anyone have a good build based around Spirit Plague and its propagation effect? I cant find one.

[charred ridge]

the highest dps setup for chaos bolts was hybrid necro/cold dmg on weapons

so you slam necro flat & also cold flat

and go AoD for cold shred

[brisk elk]

This is really strong but doesn't work too well for mana stacker because hybrid necro gives so much flat dmg

For melee it's meta and for marrow shards bug it's also meta

[charred ridge]

it was somewhere between 10 and 15% better than going pure necro and slamming multi/aspd, so it's a decent amount of extra dmg, but it requires you to run AoD which means you dont get to run death seal

and also you just go mshards rn with the bug

[brisk elk]

Also I feel like aurabot acolyte probably lets some other phys and cold builds do crazy stuff

[charred ridge]

but hypothetically if mshards was fixed then it would be an option

but slamming melee aspd also would prob feel smoother in maps so there's that

[brisk elk]

Is that including the t8 necro

[merry stirrup]

Can I gear acolyte similar to a mage? Mad wand, enigma, twisted heart?

[brisk elk]

What

Enigma

Like spark charge lich?

[merry stirrup]

I was thinking int stacking, spark charge is a nice bonus

[brisk elk]

Idk about that one homeslice

Which build

Like what are your dmg skills

I think wand/dagger is probably better

Regardless

[merry stirrup]

I am not sure, S3 is my first character and I am playing a mage but I got the bleed glove to drop. Reading the skills I am thinking about chaos bolt and that creation glove as the core

[brisk elk]

Manual cast cb?

Or flay procced

[merry stirrup]

Yeah, manually casting and have some golems and skeletons from the core skillline to tank

[brisk elk]

Alchemists ladle isn't good for ailments

It only gives spell damage

Counterintuitively

[merry stirrup]

Does chaos bolt comes with a bunch of ailments which the glove will convert to bleed?

[charred ridge]

wdym

[merry stirrup]

It has a node that boosts dot damage based of missing life so I am thinking of using the life-ward conversion chest, boot, and passive

[brisk elk]

For bleed manual cast you probably want to go either Plague bearers staff for more dot

Or a dual wield setup

But yeah bleed warlock is solid

[brisk elk]

Warlock in general gets a ton of ailment chance

So it's not a bad idea

[brisk elk]

Like when you say the cold aura is more dmg, is that with a t8 hybrid necrotic affix or is that t7 cold and t7 hybrid necrotic

On your dagger

[charred ridge]

with the primordial relic

so TT and tithe

no t8 dagger

t8 dagger is only like a 4-5% dmg increase over the other setup but it requires giga gear to fix your crit

and cold hybrid is even more damage than that

i havent looked at t8 dagger hybrid

but it's pointless until they fix mshards anyway

and even after they fix it, the dmg is so overkill it won't matter, rather slam aspd for maps

[obtuse quest]

It does say "With the melee attack"

[brisk elk]

I agree here but the t8 dagger setup feels really nice for cb and is just straight up more dmg

[charred ridge]

@grim rune i made a mistake and kinda griefed your damage actually

[pearl snow]

AoD focus poison build can prob kill normal abby at least now

[charred ridge]

you NEED corrupted form for damage or your leech will stop

and won't deal dmg

[brisk elk]

My gear is also kinda cracked tho

[obtuse quest]

Because there's better of it's likes out there like Torment or Witchfire.

But you can push it to it's fully effect by just taking the Int node, it's on hit spread nodes, and maybe bring harvest for more spread.

[charred ridge]

even if it's bugged you need 2/5 so your leech doesn't stop

[charred ridge]

more dmg is debatable

if you have absolute giga gear, yes

on a budget i don't think it's more damage

the maxroll setup sacrifices a LOT of stats to get their crit back

[brisk elk]

I haven't even looked at maxroll, I picked dagger on my own

Tt is definitely nice for crit tho

[charred ridge]

well im not sure how you fixed your crit but i don't think the tradeoff is in rune dagger's favor until you can get luxury slams like 2lp relic

using phantom grips means no stardials for example

thats -600% increased dmg

or -1000% at 2lp

per ring

[brisk elk]

I mean the other thing is that on a budget your idols are not gonna be amazing so the nest doesn't do as much

[charred ridge]

i wouldn't lose 1200% and even less so 2000% increased dmg for some flat

[charred ridge]

probably true for MG

i think rune dagger might be better for MG budget

CoF it's not a problem

as soon as i reached rank 12 i had over half of my idols done

[brisk elk]

Fair enough

[charred ridge]

but the nest is not even half the reason i dont like rune dagger on a budget

giving up stardials or slamming crit on chest instead of mana% is just criminal imo

so it depends how you make up for that crit loss really but i havent seen convincing solutions

[brisk elk]

You can also throw increased crit chance on the dagger itself but you do lose multi or mana

[charred ridge]

yeah

i think it's also not that simple to craft a 5 affixes rune dagger

most ppl i've seen had bad rune daggers, me included

but u can prob get a good one with imprints

i just havent tried

[brisk elk]

I guess it's different for MB

MG

I got mine for 600k

[charred ridge]

yeah i mean even on CoF i think if you imprint it you should be able to get a good dagger without too much effort

but i think most ppl craft with what they get natty off the ground

and that usually doesnt have nearly enough fp

to support crafting 5 affixes

[brisk elk]

For MG the dagger is probably easier than a 3lp tt with good rolls ngl

[charred ridge]

im only using 2lp tt right now

and 1lp axe xdd

still shredding uber in 35s

[brisk elk]

My dagger is not BIS but really nice

Nice

I haven't tried uber yet

[charred ridge]

link char out of curiosity?

[brisk elk]

I'm waiting for julra dungeon to be boss unique

One sec I gotta find it

In on phone

[charred ridge]

can also just give me letools account name

less trouble for you

i mean less effort

time to do 30 abbys so i can do 30 ubers and maybe find a 2lp seed 😴

[brisk elk]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/BingletonGaming/character/ManaAffixesAreBugged

I'm working on a better chest and stardials rn

Ran out of havocs

I'll be doing ubers this week hopefully but I'm kinda ass at the game so I need to practice

💀

[charred ridge]

wtf your char is sick

except idols ROFL

MG lyfe

[boreal rampart]

do the arena dummies have any resistances?

[charred ridge]

ya those idols are disgusting

[brisk elk]

Yeah lmao

I'm holding off buying them

[charred ridge]

shred nihilis is like

gg

[brisk elk]

I could have great idol if I had a billion lying around

Xd

[charred ridge]

those rings weird

i see you on the ward traversal lyfe

how is it treating you

i actually ended up putting that on hold myself and going life based for now

when i push corruption i will probably unspec corrupted form and go ward on boots

[brisk elk]

It's ass ngl

[charred ridge]

for now i feel that i have to work too much for that ward when i can just smash my head against the keyboard at 1k corr

[brisk elk]

You can't use transplant+reap because reap doesn't give the ward

Even thought it keeps traversal tag

I think it's a bug

[charred ridge]

it doesnt keep traversal tag tho

[brisk elk]

Ok

[charred ridge]

im p-sure i spec'ed it and the tag wasnt there anymore

[brisk elk]

Idk

[charred ridge]

but yeah what i do is i just use reap and sometimes transplant will be up

[brisk elk]

I have much better exalt boots waiting for 3lp skin

[charred ridge]

i have a 3lp but it rolled like shit

[brisk elk]

I will have to use a crit stardial unless I can find a well rolled 2lp shattered worlds

And hit crit chance

[charred ridge]

i slammed this yday but i kinda hate the rolls

i had to settle for bad rolls cus i failed 10 fking slams

[charred ridge]

yeah thats why i really really dislike rune dagger

early on

with 2LP SW np the rune dagger is great

but that 2lp has to be 5% and you gotta hit the slam it's like

[brisk elk]

Once I get a red ring I'll be able to make a ton of money but rn I'm selling traitors tongues and reflect idols and shit

[charred ridge]

that takes a while

[brisk elk]

Money isn't great

[charred ridge]

when i had slammed a 2LP SW in 1.2 i was basically done with the league already

[brisk elk]

Yeah lol

[charred ridge]

how u farming red ring

got plenty runes of ascendance?

i used to do some prophecies for ascendance on CoF and chance rings to imprint them on MG

took me like 400 rings or smth

but it ended up not being such good money for me

[brisk elk]

Runes on weaver tree + lp unique from champions + unqiues from lizards and lizards from caches

[charred ridge]

RR were selling for 300mil at 0lp and 77 imprints were selling for gold cap

[brisk elk]

And I farm in age of winyer

[charred ridge]

when you see the proc rate on RR and the proc rate on 77 exalts

it's like yeah ok just sell exalts

[brisk elk]

That too

Once i get my own exalts I'm gonna try to get dex+CD boots to imprint

Falconer players are the best people to sell to

[charred ridge]

😂

arent the falconer abusers gone this league though?

JUSE is a diehard falconer but feel like it wouldnt be popular around the fotm players

i could be wrong

[frosty herald]

holy jesus

[charred ridge]

but yeah i think conquered tower farming to get a 77 imprint would be best for your moneymaking

but also i dont play MG so dont listen to me 🙃

[brisk elk]

Idk but yeah 7/7s are where it's at

I have t7 int+MS boots as well

[charred ridge]

thats a nice one

[obtuse quest]

No. They got nothing. THey don't even have the generic DR every mob gets at area level 100.

[charred ridge]

t7 int t7 ms?

[brisk elk]

Ye

[charred ridge]

oh

like MG tagged?

or tradeable

[brisk elk]

Lemme check

[charred ridge]

you can just imprint that and sell for money

maybe

idk if boots are the best

but certainly they're worth something

i figure best things to sell would be stuff like

77 mana/mana%

or double hp belts

[boreal rampart]

is the chaos bolts proc the only thing in the flay lich that actually cares about how much mana you have

or is there other stuff

[charred ridge]

blood eruption and marrow shards

any spells basically

[boreal rampart]

oh. how much DR does each mob get?

[brisk elk]

Yeah that's what ie been working on

[charred ridge]

87%

at level 100

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/mobdr

[charred ridge]

its probably quite hard to get honestly

i got lucky and got a rogue one from nemesis, sentinel from the sentinel loot woven echo

my sentinel started as a 77 and even turned into a 777

[brisk elk]

ive already made my own 7/7 mana chest from market but i dont have one i can sell yet

wait i ruined the fp on my boots

lol

they are tradeable tho

this was before u told me

i thought it was better to get them to 5/5 suffixes

so they at 0 fp

[obtuse quest]

As stated, 87%. All mobs have this. There’s nothing you can do to ignore it. Pen and armour shred works as usual though. It’s just a layer that nothing can ignore.

[charred ridge]

uh-oh

noooo

not 55

you seen the google doc right?

i mean you can still redeem them

it'll just take some time

[brisk elk]

lol this was before you showed me that

[charred ridge]

they need to proc fp and stuff

[brisk elk]

we will see

[charred ridge]

but u can grind it out

i got my dream helmet imprint

i just need 2lp seeds now xdd

[brisk elk]

yeah that part is rough

3lp valeroots cost nothing tho

is the nice thing

this was like 600k maybe

[charred ridge]

that's crazy lmao

since this is just for bossing idm settling with 2lp

couldve had better rolls tho

but these are pretty decent

since i have a 777 chest imprint i might try to slam a kestrel or something for maps

maybe even t7 hp t7 crit reduction

and go t5 mana on the prefix

i cant tell how rare 3lp valeroot is on CoF

never paid attention

can prob find 10 per season

[boreal rampart]

so does the flay lich actually cast harvest? I'm trying to understand other than the procs.

[charred ridge]

for mana

in maps mostly

won't have big mana issues on bossing

[boreal rampart]

alright

[charred ridge]

interesting camera angle

[grim rune]

nice

[grim rune]

im still using this

[grim rune]

HAHAH

i kinda wondered

why i do less dmg

[charred ridge]

yeyeye lol big oversight from me

[grim rune]

tho accused feast for maps is waste ye?

[charred ridge]

yeah

[brazen wigeon]

heh just dropped

[wet sky]

anyone tried reflect golem build, wondering is it any good?

[brazen wigeon]

pretty cool idol

[boreal rampart]

so I know pretty much everyone is playing lich, but are there other non minion spell builds that actually do any damage

flay lich*

[versed fox]

there's a poison build, from what I understand it is dope

[boreal rampart]

mainly I mean like

direct damage from spells builds

not dot builds

[charred ridge]

there's profane veil

[lost gale]

direct damage from minion spells? profane oblation kinda works

[grim rune]

1st

[coral current]

Any chance you can share a build link on this?

Or anyone for a bleed lich leveling build

[half kelp]

having good success with necrotic death seal lich

i wanna cook this further

new set shards open up some interesting cooks

[brazen wigeon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJdXnjxo look here, playing profane oblation lol!

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (86)

General:

▸ Health: 2,368, Regen: 21.08/s
▸ Mana: 228.42, Regen: 8.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 159%, Regen: 17/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 17 Dex / 40 Int / 17 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 88% / 99% / 81% / 230% / 169% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 82%, Threshold: 604
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,505)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 20% (224)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Volatile Zombie / Assemble Abomination / Dread Shade

[winged flame]

I literally just made a concept build like this wtf xD

[grim rune]

these mobs are dumb

[brazen wigeon]

it's really fun, tho screen shakes too much from all the explosions

I have yet to get like 300% minion damage from affixes, but profane oblation already crits for 15 000

also ward generation is insane - 75 flat ward per skeleton exploded, rest 35 and from zombies additional 0.8 of their HP

rocking at 2500 ward constantly

[winged flame]

I was thinking something like this or go Vit stacking with DoT minions

[brazen wigeon]

for DoT you want as many minnions as possible

so two fingers and abberant wrath

and maybe putrid wraiths and rogues?

[boreal rampart]

profane veil does a lot of damage? but what about the cd

[winged flame]

No idea, just this node that got me interested, and zombies with profane oblation for re-summon zombies

[charred ridge]

im not super knowledgeable with profane veil i just know that it wrecks

[boreal rampart]

when zombie gets profane oblationed does it still get its own explosion proc?

guessing not

or wait, they can't be

never mind

yeah I noticed you can basically have infinite mana with profane oblation and ressing skeles

I was trying to see if I could use that mana for something myself

but ghostflame has kinda shit damage

and I don't know what else costs a lot of mana or does a ton of damage

spell wise

scaling your own minions probably makes more sense overall I was just seeing if there was something there

[brazen wigeon]

zombie has node that makes 30% of sacced minnions produce zombie, and also node that makes guaranteed skeletal vanguard when zombie explodes

skeletal vanguards are also blown up by mages

and can make zombies

necro also has passive - 12% chance for vanguard when minion dies

so...tbh I am always at 3-4 zombies and I use mana only to summon more

or you can just take cruelty and resummoning skeletons

sad part is that sacrifice is locked into physical damage and can't be converted

[grim rune]

wrong base sad noises

[brazen wigeon]

I tried it with puking zombies (since they don't exlode right away) but sacrifice to my taste has very low scaling

[lost gale]

sacrifice has low scaling for minion builds ofc because it's player damage

but it's actually pretty great

[boreal rampart]

yeah I was talking more about if you could scale your own damage

[brazen wigeon]

better use it as lich

[lost gale]

nah I disagree

I think Lich's Scorn offhand is the key

[boreal rampart]

for sacrifice?

[lost gale]

yes

use the node in dread shade which makes it buff the player

[brazen wigeon]

I did cold aaron's will golems with lich scorn's set before

[boreal rampart]

the offhand gives your minions cold pen and cold damage on spells

oh

[brazen wigeon]

3 ice golems with infernal shade on steroids

[boreal rampart]

interesting..

yeah I was trying to do skeletal mages with %increased spell damage with skeletal mages

you can get a LOT of % increased spell damage but not much flat

that would sort of solve it

sorry I mean increased spell damage PER skeletal mage

[lost gale]

with cold AoD and lich's scorn you get like ~100-130 flat cold and 2% pen per int

[boreal rampart]

yeah

that could be the ticket

[lost gale]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owb41pNB someone posted this earlier in another discord, looks pretty sick

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (61) / Lich (31)

General:

▸ Health: 4,144, Regen: 40.7/s
▸ Mana: 179.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 514%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 28 Dex / 212 Int / 27 Att / 44 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 215% / 64% / 67% / 67% / 141% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 2,141
▸ Dodge Chance: 31% (1066)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,037)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Marrow Shards / Dread Shade / Aura Of Decay / Infernal Shade

[lost gale]

his idea is to use unspecialised abomination simply to carry the dread shade

[boreal rampart]

hmm

[lost gale]

and yeah I can see how that would work

[boreal rampart]

like you can get almost 200% spell damage per skeletal mage if it's the primal

on chest

idk how viable it is overall though you lose a spell slot

how do you get so much flat from the lich, you need a lot of infernal shades out first right?

[brazen wigeon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkG10naQ here tho it's highly incomplete and old

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 88

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (80)

General:

▸ Health: 1,758, Regen: 20.15/s
▸ Mana: 94.45, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 243%, Regen: 41/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 80 Int / 0 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 216% / 142% / 89% / 123% / 111% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 482
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (69)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (849)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 29%

Used skills:

Infernal Shade / Summon Bone Golem / Summon Skeletal Mage / Dread Shade / Summon Wraith

[lost gale]

yeah so either you specialise infernal shade to attach to your own minions and use zombies/wraths that you haven't made abom out of

or you go to the dummies area and cast infernal shade on a bunch of dummies then cast dread shade on your abom

[noble flame]

Has there been any word on Abomination sacrificing itself?

[boreal rampart]

i gotta go but i'd like to think more about this. thanks for your insights

[brazen wigeon]

I used bone golems

[brazen wigeon]

are you an Abomination? cuz that's ideal name...

[storm vapor]

Hello, anyone played a varient of flay lich? do you guys recommend it as a first build?

[brazen wigeon]

flay lich needs a lot of unique items

[lost gale]

nope, someone told me to double check that I didn't have something like sacrifice specialised on dread shade or volatile zombies because that was their issue but I had it happen on a zombie-less build and definitely not dread shade sac specialised

[storm vapor]

what about that harvest flay lich build? the one that doesnt use it as a main skill

[lost gale]

flay is still pretty item intensive

just play abomination & respec later or rip blood/marrow shards until you get some actual gear for it

[noble flame]

I had auto-rez skellies. Took off the chaining, even sac'd itself in a safe area. Just popped. So it's definitely a thing.

Bit of a shame cause it's a fun idea

[lost gale]

yeah I had those issues too

[brazen wigeon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqD4Xw5A I plan to build this one day...but I will need ubberoth carry xD

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,132, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 259.51, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 118%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 31 Dex / 59 Int / 16 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 49% / 49% / 59% / 52% / 52% / 117% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 1,127
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (450)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,237)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 80%

Used skills:

Flay / Harvest / Death Seal / Reaper Form / Aura Of Decay

[lost gale]

I've given up on 100% rez skellies, 80% is more than enough

[storm vapor]

i see, well if thats the case, how smooth is abom, cuz seeing bear builds go doesnt look very smooth at all, is it the same with abom? i never really dabbled in minion builds

[lost gale]

abom is much faster than bear with the support necro can provide it and less cooldown dependent to kill stuff

[brazen wigeon]

I need 100% cuz when a bit idle abomination eats em up

[lost gale]

but its top end DPS isn't as strong as bear

[lost gale]

abom will always eat minions as a priority, 100% rez is just wasting your abom's time

[brazen wigeon]

not when it's locked in combat

[lost gale]

isn't it the same AI as wraithlord? eats minions > attacking

[brazen wigeon]

I guess when there are 5 mages blowing up skeletons abomination got nothing to eat

it works for me at least

[lost gale]

yeah that's probably the case

profane oblation casts much faster than the abom's devour

[brazen wigeon]

I expect this to be nerfed, 20% max hp heal when there are exploding skeletons and zombies is a tad too good ;p

[grim rune]

perf

[lost gale]

it's 20% of the skeleton's HP not 20% of the abomination's hp. If you make your abom from 20 skeletons then it's not a lot

[storm vapor]

guess ill play abom, ty for the info. I do have one more question to ask, is it worth it going for a harvest flay lich or stay on abom till i get the items for a mana-stacking flay lich

[brazen wigeon]

tho zombies are lot beefer

and vanguards...

and regular skeletons...all gets blown up

[lost gale]

yeah, that's true

but if you actually specialise abom then you'll definitely have the more hp & melee damage per skele warrior

and that outweights the base stat differences of zombies and vanguards

[grim rune]

@charred ridge these wont be bad for uber tho?

then I can go traitor + primordial relic

and t7 julras spell

[charred ridge]

these look pretty good

how am i not finding 2lp seeds lmao

[grim rune]

lolz

[grim rune]

1:215 tho

[charred ridge]

i have 52 1lps

surely turtle hits

[grim rune]

Well im still waiting for good ring for my 3lp julra ring

Prolly int,spell and something else

[charred ridge]

im so sick of aberroth rn im at over 100 kills on the day

and close to no loot

3rd lp hardly matters on stardial

but it'll help you land your 2nd prefix

can do int/spell/hp/endurance

[brazen wigeon]

those are all ubberoths?

[grim rune]

Yeah

Hes farming xD

[charred ridge]

ya

theres more bottom right

im almost done i just hope i get a fking 2lp seed

[grim rune]

U got mana mana helmet ?

Getting 2lp seed is fine, then slam it XD

[charred ridge]

ye i failed 2 alrdy

3rd time's the charm 🙂

[coral current]

Anyone suggest got a build link for how to run this? 🙂 Appreciated.

[dark quiver]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/pt/Bgl4nLzo my damage is too low to help me?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 92

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (75) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,442, Regen: 24.54/s
▸ Mana: 367.1, Regen: 15.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 197%, Regen: 29/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 14 Dex / 95 Int / 13 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 56% / 51% / 58% / 81% / 75% / 32%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 891
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (315)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,054)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Marrow Shards / Transplant

[dusty onyx]

Is that thing any good for a slam?

[serene lichen]

show build

are u dot??

pls respond

[charred ridge]

im not dot

[serene lichen]

lets see what ur trying to make

im lvl 75 lich man my char is trash

idk what im doing help

the low life bug shattered my world

[dusty onyx]

yeah corrupted form is not good

because of that stupid bug

and other reasons

[charred ridge]

corrupted form is good

your build might or might not want it

it's situationally good 🤷‍♀️

[serene lichen]

i was gonna use it to maintain leech from falling off at full hp

p much thats it

[vague saddle]

does the necro passive node "invigorated dead" remove added minion melee phys when it turns it into throwing or does it work more like a cleaver?

[winged flame]

It just adds the melee dmg as throwing dmg as well, nothing is removed

If you have added minion throwing dmg elsewhere it would be added too

[boreal rampart]

if you do that it actually carries across load screens? and im assuming you take the node that makes it not drain life?

[grim rune]

I see you still using low life passives :0

[charred ridge]

i sent my passives earlier

[sweet spade]

was this the phys one or necro

sometimes i get bonked straight out of reaper, no idea why/where from

[charred ridge]

what phys

it was just for mana flay mapping

[sweet spade]

i just took a void frontal to the face in orobyss and that didn't bonk me out of reaper (200c)

[sweet spade]

you don't have this node anymore iirc

[charred ridge]

i took it back

just need a +2 nihilis for this & reap cdr

[sweet spade]

is your proifle up to date with passives, or you testing something

[charred ridge]

you can force the profile update by importing my char on a build planner

and im up to date just farming

[sweet spade]

i assume you use red rings for farming and stardial for uberoth?

[vague saddle]

does this affix transfer if i make the mages into deathknights?

[sweet spade]

is this not important anymore?

[charred ridge]

yes

[charred ridge]

this was never important

i was just pathing to hp gained per int

but i thought it wasnt doing much

[sweet spade]

how would the node you chose be better?
because this only applies to harvest?

[charred ridge]

get some ward and dmg

harvest dmg can help kill trash mobs for mana sustain

[sweet spade]

oh right

i feel like fkn paper man

can barely see the blue circles on the ground

lmfao

[coral current]

Should I be leveling with Harvest then swap to Flay if doing Lich? (harvest atm)

[sweet spade]

@charred ridge Can I trouble you to eyeball my profile and tell me if I'm doing something completely wrong?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/syncuwu/character/syncuwu

[charred ridge]

if you get stuck trying to kill uber i'll tell you what you doing wrong

but if you still gearing there's no point in me looking at your profile

[sweet spade]

i'm just getting bonked a lot in maps

i wonder if i'm just missing hp% on stuff

or if i have a wrong node somewhere

but mostly it's all there, just missing a nihilus to free up resist in idols, and mana idols i think?

[charred ridge]

take off accursed feast

[sweet spade]

ok
(and put it back on for uberroth?)

[charred ridge]

if u need dmg yeah

[sweet spade]

anything else?

[charred ridge]

no not really

just do your idol prophecies and get mana

[sweet spade]

thanks

hmmm

820c

wtf

that's just a regular missile

the charge up missile is 11k, the one that rebounds is also 11k, on 820c - i swear it didn't hit my es vk that hard last season

[muted mist]

Level with whatever, but I found Harvest to be very fun

[charred ridge]

vk, like, the class with a gazillion DR against void?

[sweet spade]

yes that one 😛

but the melee still hitting for 5k is nuts

[craggy flicker]

how should i farm t7 experimental affixes (low life affix mainly)

[charred ridge]

for 1lp, 2lp, exalted item?

1lp just go to the rune prison complex and spam havocs

[craggy flicker]

exalted item for now

[charred ridge]

same thing for exalted

[craggy flicker]

yeah figured

[sweet spade]

@charred ridge does uberroth melee you out of reaper or you just keep him chain stunned

[charred ridge]

he doesnt touch me

he doesnt melee in fact

[sweet spade]

yeah ok that makes a lot of sense now

[charred ridge]

but if he were to melee me then ye he'd take me out of reaper form on the zhp setup

[sweet spade]

cause uberoth was just regular melee'ing me out of reaper

[craggy flicker]

have they made havocs easier to farm or na?

[sweet spade]

def feels like it

[charred ridge]

mapping setup can just facetank everything

judgement paladin style

[sweet spade]

err, is your current setup "mapping setup"?

[charred ridge]

ye

actually

i forgot to equip pale ox

[craggy flicker]

what build u guys chattin bout?

[sweet spade]

mana flay

[charred ridge]

neat i guess

[craggy flicker]

!

[dusty onyx]

Oh shit just dropped that dude

[sweet spade]

zzzz, i can't push to 1k corruption, cause i can't get past orobyss, just melees me to death, can't phase fast enough

[charred ridge]

need to do ur idol prophecies first

[sweet spade]

yeah

i dont get how i can take some frontals from other bosses, but there's a few skills in the game that just mega truck

bumblebear charge
rift beast blue circle thing
orobyss/uberoth flat melee
the osprix star nuke
osprix charge

[vapid belfry]

does leech rate decrease the duration of each stack of leech?

[charred ridge]

yes

it's a bad stat

[vapid belfry]

has anyone tested if the increased health leeched is worth the increased leech rate on this?

[charred ridge]

this node is bad

it's an offensive node

for scornful

don't take it if you don't run scornful

[dusty onyx]

I like it a lot for scornful yeah

it does good damage

[vapid belfry]

yeah i just clocked that i had it

[sweet spade]

@charred ridge slam spell dmg first, or int first on stardial?

[vapid belfry]

spell

[charred ridge]

i didnt do math

so idk

either one is fine

[sweet spade]

int > mana > scaling
sp > straight scaling yeah?

[dusty onyx]

int is extra pen if you have AOD, and also probably dodge

and mana 🤷

it's everything at once

[sweet spade]

if im understanding mana flay uberroth correctly, i have to kill it a very specific way to phase through all the sketchy shit

i can't like, "do it normally" on es vk where i soak some hits, dodge pizza, dps down

[charred ridge]

you can with a tankier setup

it'll just be slower

i could show it but i dont have an uber map down right now

[vapid belfry]

which of these 2 is better?

ig its the one with shred but its missing a whole affix

[charred ridge]

probably the one with 37 flat on the implicit

as long as you get shred somewhere else anyway

[vapid belfry]

yeah issue is i dont atm

[charred ridge]

whats ur gloves

unless it's immortal vise

just craft some exalted gloves with shred

[vapid belfry]

blood with max roll mana

[serene lichen]

If you made it to 66% you made it to 100% anyway for good dmg stuff, kinda good for cruising around w AoD and maintaining reaper

[vapid belfry]

i could swap to vise i do have lp1 but not crit capping then

[serene lichen]

Other than scornful ya the bug bricks it pretty hard

[charred ridge]

thats why rune dagger is kinda ass on low budget

idk it's just really bad unless you have giga gear honestly

rune dagger is like 4% more dmg if your gear is so good u have a 2LP shattered worlds

4%

and on budget you are trading immortal vise for it

make it make sense

[sweet spade]

this is for weaver idol right?

[old hull]

For both, but yeah it should boost chances of seeing minor weaver idols as well

[sweet spade]

and then i need to specifically go into tombs to get them?

[old hull]

Careful though, I think using that lens puts you on a watch list

[sweet spade]

mfw

oh nvm, the proph is straight weaver

[old hull]

Nah, if the proph says "minor weaver idols", it'll give you those no matter what - likewise for the regular "minor idols" proph, doesn't matter where you are (never get the non-weaver one)

[dusty onyx]

let's be slammin'!

[charred ridge]

gl

[dusty onyx]

hits vitality

pretty nice

second best after haste prob

[serene lichen]

ty for explain chill on poison (did not take the cold convert)

f man so many bugs, frenzy belt im trying rn - two types of frenzy buff, generic (applies to minions too) and does work and personal like experimental frenzy boots 60% doesn't affect belt

[dusty onyx]

Perfect

Food for gantlet of strife

[craggy flicker]

cant work out why my abomination isnt leeching at all

[serene lichen]

Link character profile

[craggy flicker]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ThatManDo/character/NecroticFleshEater

[ashen quest]

Anyone running a purple epic primal over swxy new uniques lol

[craggy flicker]

currently im just occ summoning a skeleton to heal it lol, but ive seen no mention of anyone doing that

[serene lichen]

is there more leech than thjis

[craggy flicker]

no i dont think so

most people ive seen only have this tho

[serene lichen]

didn't see any on your gear or idols and you also have that some of your damage taken is redirected to him.

consider this, you are fairly early in the build and the critical strike damage leeched as health, you dont have that much shared crit damage yet

[craggy flicker]

hes critting abt half the hits

maybe i unspec the drain his health when he uses spell thing for now haha

[serene lichen]

I think he’s just not leeching a very high amount

And it’s non 0 but small that u don’t see much in play

[craggy flicker]

thanks

[serene lichen]

also looks like u are bone cursing him and the net health from leech vs damage is less than the damage he will take from my rookie assement

[cursive latch]

do you guys have a good minion army build ? i dont want to use abomination.

[craggy flicker]

i believe infernal shade necro still isnt too bad

abom def can be annoying haha

[craggy flicker]

u may be right

ill just bone curse enemies for now haha i have way too much damage for now haha

[topaz marlin]

anyone running DoT minion build, may I have a build reference please

[dusty onyx]

Holy moly

the fabled ring

[charred ridge]

cool

[lyric arrow]

is there a hard limit on the amount of skeleton summoned from each ability?

[dusty onyx]

how do you loot those tdouble T7 x)

[charred ridge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BevLkVP3qn0JB2by7bpon_VZUQyjt1dJNlTfcGJ0xHI/edit?tab=t.0

[dusty onyx]

ha I see

nice

I didn't realize it worked for non unique

I suppose some stuff cannot be imprinted easily, like the exprimental belt/gloves/boots right?

[crystal escarp]

ez ring in my life

[dusty onyx]

Banish it!

Does imprint work with LP?

[crystal escarp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaeJODrB currently on 800+ corrupt with flay + aod ice convert build, but don't know what add to survive very hard bosses, can help me with some advise?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (78) / Warlock (13)

General:

▸ Health: 3,117, Regen: 22.88/s
▸ Mana: 249.5, Regen: 14.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 169%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 87 Dex / 77 Int / 18 Att / 52 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 155% / 88% / 79% / 74% / 139% / 149%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 1,077
▸ Dodge Chance: 36% (1256)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,051)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Flay / Chaos Bolts / Harvest / Aura Of Decay / Marrow Shards

[pearl snow]

yes

[dusty onyx]

wtf!

dammmn I should have kept my best stuff

I feel stupid now

I suppose once it's legendary, it can no longer be imprinted right?

for the LP

[pearl snow]

It can be imprinted as legendary

I think it just uses amount of affixes = LP or something similar

for a drop

it will drop the unique varaint

[dusty onyx]

that's crazy

that's how I dropped so many 2 LP daggers now I realize 👀

They really did a crazy item inflation

[pearl snow]

are you using death seal at all on bosses? thats a massive DR button even unspeced.
But in general I mean it's hard to say Aco and Lich in general is prety squish

[crystal escarp]

yes only in dangerous situations using it when understand what can't avoid attack, i see only way in getting better lp and stats on my gear, but mb some of you use other gear what can give more safe and advice it to me📝

[dusty onyx]

wait it does even keep the rolls as is?

that's crazy

[pearl snow]

no should be randomized

[dusty onyx]

so when you drop the first 4LP of an item, you can just duplicate it over and over?

[pearl snow]

it doesnt duplicate the LP its still random. But it helps target drops of higher lp the higher the imprint is

[old hull]

It does have a higher chance of being the same/similar rolls

so always imprint with the best-rolled one you have with the highest LP/affix-count

[dusty onyx]

ok I immediately regret ditching some 3 affixe unique I got trolled from harbringer

and I played it was still the close eye and watch the random 7 fail on a 3 LP item

Can't imprint idols right?

[pearl snow]

No, but read the different imprint slots in the tree it tells you what goes where

[dusty onyx]

dang, the hardest build to grind is still bees

[pearl snow]

tf is this

[old hull]

Acolyte's Heretic Garb of Regrowth

[dusty onyx]

lol

[bleak ember]

this gets converted to necrotic is when you convert bone curse to necrotic damage? I guess it doesnt but im curious

[obtuse quest]

A t7 that’s syngeristic? Crazy

[obtuse quest]

Not known. Probably no.

If it did I think a lot of builds would have done it

[bleak ember]

right, makes sense

[obtuse quest]

It would make it effectively an additional multiplier that also boosts dread shade, who wouldn’t use it

[lucid olive]

Is necromancer that weak right now?

im wondering if i should respec

[bleak ember]

necro is not weak

regular skeletons are weak

[half kelp]

ooh dungeons have been changed to no longer have the different levels?

[obtuse quest]

No, necro is still pretty strong

[obtuse quest]

Those still exist, are you playing in like 0.6 or something

[half kelp]

i played from launch to the end of season 1 i think

this has changed

also i was just robbed of a portal key

doesnt seem to work

[boreal rampart]

does anyone know if generic cast speed affects this node? or does it have to be SPECIFCALLY 'cast speed with curses'

[autumn bough]

where did u get that from, can you list at least 1 reason why is it weak?

[obtuse quest]

Works with generic cast speed.

[autumn bough]

they are decent now

[bleak ember]

aight i trust Misha,

i just hate that 2/3 of the tree is travel points to get more skeletons

[lucid olive]

I checked on guides for bossing etc and i always seen Lich being there in S tier

[obtuse quest]

That only means Lich is strong though?

[lucid olive]

Or am i just not used to NECRO being the class where you need to dodge every single spell from harbringers or you are dead?

no matter what thing i try, if I want to aim for harbringers they are one shotting me , full ressists 5k ward etc

[obtuse quest]

That has been always the case, you're made of paper, your big minion probably isn't made of paper.

[lucid olive]

so my only thing in Lagoon fight / harbringer is to dodge and get lucky im not one shot

what an amazing thing 😄

[obtuse quest]

I would comment on how 5k ward is actually low, but it depends on your equipment...

[lucid olive]

I can send pictures here after im in game

since i am bit lost of what to do now

[autumn bough]

both abomination and infernal shade are way better bosses than any lich builds

[lucid olive]

really ? hmm

[lucid olive]

Can i DM you my build or is it enough if i just send here pics for help ?

[bleak ember]

do you play online? can you share your Account Name?

[lucid olive]

i play offline i can try to share acc name somehow

[obtuse quest]

2k hp
I see the issue

[lucid olive]

hp is the issue then ?

[lucid olive]

I uploaded it

how do i share it now?

ah i see https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaeJ9deB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (32) / Necromancer (70) / Lich (1) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,118, Regen: 60.3/s
▸ Mana: 164.33, Regen: 8.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 201%, Regen: 87/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 18 Dex / 44 Int / 6 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 157% / 121% / 99% / 67% / 223% / 145%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (125)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,396)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%

Used skills:

Dread Shade / Assemble Abomination / Bone Curse / Infernal Shade / Summon Skeleton

[lucid olive]

this is what i wanted to use to swap after i already use dread shade on my abom

[bleak ember]

no flat on your weapon tho

[autumn bough]

on budget(no cray lp item, no double t7) lich is around 90-110 mil dps, abomination is 125+, infernal shade has huge spiked but varies from 60 to 130 mil, difference is that necromancers are 10x more tankier than lich so if person dies in uber on necro they probably should go back to roblox due to massive skill issue or farm more gear cause attempted too early

[bleak ember]

try to get flat minion melee damage on whatever weapon you are using

[lucid olive]

From build i read this weapon i should always SWAP so i can use both INFERNAL and DREAD shade

[autumn bough]

its not even funny how much the difference is flay has some drs and runs like 3-4k hp+3k armor, while infernal shade is 5-6k hp and 8-9 k ward+9k armor and abom is 7k ward+100% block and 7k armor

[bleak ember]

thats for damage, for defense, you have too little ward retention and ward regen

[obtuse quest]

The ward regen doesn't take into account the exsang combo

[bleak ember]

this one, the screenshot that you shared doesnt have flat damage

[bleak ember]

didnt know that

since i never play low life xd

[autumn bough]

what build are u following? you dont have neither bone curse specced for damage nor aod which are the biggest minion buffers on par with dread shade, aod gives even more than shade

[sweet spade]

btw @autumn bough for mana flay uberroth, is the idea just to dps to force phases instead of taking any hits?

[autumn bough]

if you are playing abomination you go physical, focus on str or endurance stacking with t-rex relic

use dread shade/bone curse/aura of decya to giga buff abomination

and stack cdr on idols cause dual strike is 90% of your dps

[half kelp]

hmm, really not feeling flay

[autumn bough]

are u dying from auto attacks?

[sweet spade]

hit auto attack bonks me out of reaper every time

even orobyss auto hits me for 5-6k

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/syncuwu/character/syncuwu

[autumn bough]

your hp is too low

[sweet spade]

ya but how to solve - only belt is missing lp2 for health

[autumn bough]

boots

no health

craft hp on body if u cant, get hp idols

[sweet spade]

% ones?

[autumn bough]

anything lol if you die from enemy looking at it only makes sense to get more tankiness

[autumn bough]

also why are u even trying to do uber with this character?

[sweet spade]

with mana flay?

[autumn bough]

you have no hp no damage

u need to go farm monos and get proper gear

[sweet spade]

that's the only char i have in 1.3

[autumn bough]

no armor shred, no primordial dagger

or relic

[sweet spade]

ya im working on that, i wanted to figure why im dying

[half kelp]

i should probably just bite the bullet and go poison death seal

flay is not feelin good to me

[autumn bough]

no nihilis

[sweet spade]

you and noobzor seem to have really opposite opinions of primordial dagger

i killed abberoth ~20 times, nihilus hasn't dropped a single time

[autumn bough]

it doesnt matter both relic and dagger easily kill uber if you have decent gear

but what you have is way below acceptable lvl for uber

[sweet spade]

(but i don't have decent gear)

ya, working on it

im getting hit for like 8k in 900c, i dunno how much 1k hp is going to help, am i missing something?

[autumn bough]

primordial dagger is better on low budget, with huge mana relic becomes better but its better only dps wise if you want to go tanky and bulild 5-6k+ hp on flay dagger is still better

noobzor wants a fast kill he isnt gonna make a char with big hp

[sweet spade]

oddly, noobzor reckons prim dagger is good on high budget because traitor's guarantees crit and frees rings for stardials or something

i dunno which is better

[lucid olive]

I dont ?

[autumn bough]

with your gear you should sit on 500 cor max imo or play 100% focused and not get hit/press seal properly if you want to go 1k cor

[sweet spade]

ok ill drop to 500

[stuck owl]

Age of Undeath Abomination Necromancer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.1

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Assemble Abomination
• Summon Skeleton
• Infernal Shade
• Bone Curse
• Dread Shade

Used unique items

None

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Season Starter / Beginner / Hardcore / SSF / Ranged / Minions

Created by Ironcache · Mar 8, 2024, 6:20 AM

[autumn bough]

you dont have 50% more phys dmg on bone curse

[lucid olive]

ah no sorry misha thats not the build

weird it not on LE tools anymore

[autumn bough]

probably cause its 1.1 guide and we are in 1.3

😅

that itemization of yours is at least 1 year old meta

[lucid olive]

ah

thats weird it was updated

im gonna respec whole bone curse then

[autumn bough]

on bone curse u really only need mark of death and that node then just spam it on abom avery 4 seconds when engaging the boss

but the main thing you need is to farm bones for trex relic and get minion cooldown idols

after that you need way better weapons

[lucid olive]

way better than that mandate?

[autumn bough]

its 0lp

get at least 1

you dont have any flat dmg for your minions on your gear

and later with trex relic bastion+cleaver solution is way more dmg than madate

[lucid olive]

I was talking about this one

if i should not use it

[autumn bough]

no, its bad

[sweet spade]

I guess I don't need a prim dagger anymore?

[autumn bough]

if you want a quick upgrade get any 2h weapon with tier 7 minion flat melee dmg and make it tier 8

then craft t5 another flat melee dmg

[lucid olive]

ill check my stash and send you some screens of stuff i could use

[lost gale]

@autumn bough not my work but i'm wondering what you think of it
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGW88bmB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (63) / Lich (29)

General:

▸ Health: 4,016, Regen: 40.7/s
▸ Mana: 203.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 455%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 28 Dex / 200 Int / 27 Att / 44 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 201% / 60% / 67% / 67% / 141% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 2,064
▸ Dodge Chance: 30% (1020)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,988)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Marrow Shards / Dread Shade / Aura Of Decay / Infernal Shade

[lost gale]

(unspecialised abom to carry the dread shadee)

[autumn bough]

u didnt take any damage nodes tho

🤔

[lost gale]

well the idea is to get like 130 flat from the catalyst, plus rip blood flat and get 2% pen & 4% increased & 0.5% cast speed per int

should be ~300 flat, 450% cold pen for mshards

and lots of cast speed too

I agree that it isn't exactly optimised yet, but I think the basic idea has a lot of merit

2% cold pen per int via lich's scorn & aura of decay has to be something you can make work

and ladle with lots of flat is usually a good combo

[calm dome]

In a boss scenario, you can only attach 1 infernal shade for the flat damage bonus being affected by dread shade though

[lost gale]

dread shade buff is snapshotted at the time it is cast

if you have 9 or even 10 infernal shades out when you cast it the buff sticks with the value of 9 shades

[calm dome]

So you spawn minions, attach infernal shades then dread shade the abom

[sweet spade]

there's no way mana flay ever tanks this right?

[calm dome]

I see

[lost gale]

besides, I think you could make frostbite work which wouldn't in any way depend on the number of infernal shades

[lucid olive]

Dont you know if there is proper guide for this build somewhere ? everywhere i look either its clickbait or OLD builds

[sweet spade]

im finishing out my mono then going to 500, but 930c feels so much harder than last season

[lost gale]

or you have infernal shade specced to cast on enemies and do it at the arena dummies

one fewer shade if you don't spec infernal shade at all

[cerulean pewter]

maybe with death seal but yeah that move is a killer

[calm dome]

Dread Shade snapshotting with Lich's Scorn is new to me. Devs hate it, theorycrafters are inspired