#💀┃acolyte

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charred ridge
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for all content

brittle urchin
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been trying to get a good 2lp or 3lp traitors can not find

brisk elk
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Mana stacker is never gonna get 70% dodge but attribute stacking melee conceivably can

verbal belfry
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how likely is my build to get nerfed? my only other experience was cthonic fissure warlock when it first came out and I remember they nerfed the build pretty hard

brisk elk
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Very unlikely

charred ridge
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they won't nerf mid season

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if you're thinking of legacy then also unlikely i think

brisk elk
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If they nerf anything it will be the spell mana stuff

charred ridge
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unless it gets ripples from another build

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but probably not

brittle urchin
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why do i feel less player now and only 1 week passed

charred ridge
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nothing really screams broken when i look at the build so most likely wont be nerfed

verbal belfry
brisk elk
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Arpgs always work like that anyways

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People do the content, make their build and quit

charred ridge
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yeah with poe2 launching

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i can tell you playercount isn't going to look like this

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😂

grim rune
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zzzz 72 tries for woven flesh lp2

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still no lp2

brittle urchin
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bad roll but spent all the money i had meh

grim rune
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took some time XD

boreal rampart
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does the unbound necromancy node cost mana?

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that resummons the skeleton when it dies

grim rune
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ofc as i drop lp1 it's +1 XD

worthy arch
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Lol I love this build just afked 1 button killed the lagoon boss while holding my baby

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Perfect dad build 👍

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Hopefully it scales well

stuck owlBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (49)

General:

▸ Health: 1,503, Regen: 31.56/s
▸ Mana: 92.28, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 64%, Regen: 21/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 7 Dex / 32 Int / 7 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 19% / 19% / 46% / 15% / 15% / 46% / 160%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 451
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (82)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (316)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 9%

worthy arch
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Looking to get architects of astral blood to be a thick boy

charred ridge
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wtf who are you

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2 besieged gardens

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LOL

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ty for the tip i guess???

amber oxide
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re: Weavers Favor

Does it matter if I spend favor on buying echos or enchating/reforging idols? Like does one provide more faction xp than the other?

cosmic wagon
obtuse totem
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i thought that was the tech everyone was using TBH

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you get a huge pile of exalteds at the end of each run

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ive had it imprinted in my weaver tree since day 1

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tbh ive been INCREDIBLY unlucky and not hit a 7/7 but hey

charred ridge
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this is my first time getting a double from one

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but honestly i can hear it

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like im not sure this is a legit strat

charred ridge
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cause like if you take conquered towers for example

obtuse totem
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this season

charred ridge
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the dude at the top drops like 10 exalted weapons

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every time my filter procs like five t7s

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but i never got a double t7 even once and i ran that echo like 200 times

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if not more

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so im not sure there even is a relation between exalted items and double exalted

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for example uber guarantees 1lp on some items but it doesnt change the odds for 2lp, same with julra

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so ye idk if i just got lucky on that sentinel echo or if it's a legit strat

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im leaning towards lucky but it's def worth investigating

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or idk if you have some numbers to provide from 1.2

obtuse totem
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i have zero information from 1.2 lol

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i played hard for a few weeks then stopped as i normally do, its so long ago now the memory is gone

charred ridge
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alright

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im still leaning towards pure coincidence but i might test it later if im bored lol

obtuse totem
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imprinting that echo on the tree does make it spawn a LOT though

charred ridge
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im tired of the reweaving amber farm so i might do class echoes instead

obtuse totem
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so if its viable, it spawns very often

charred ridge
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you'd probably just put them down with lost follies anyway

grim rune
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oh damn

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lp2

charred ridge
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they're incredibly plentiful

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as drops

grim rune
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Effective Level for Legendary Potential: 75, isn't that like ultra hard to get lp2 ?

charred ridge
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not ultra rare but it's scarce

left whale
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No LP but i will take it

grim rune
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clearly not farming for that %mana

real turret
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imagine dropping this just as youre about to switch builds

grim rune
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can someone explain me what I should do now ?

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how do i imprint it on chest

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it wont get sentinel tag?

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@charred ridge XD

abstract summit
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that is unethical

grim rune
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it wont get sentinel tag"

charred ridge
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you can imprint and it'll drop more sentinel chests with 2 t7 prefixes

grim rune
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Well i made wrong question lmao

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if i use it for legendary

charred ridge
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if you slam a unique item with a sentinel-only prefix it will get sentinel tagged and you won't be able to equip it

grim rune
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will it gain sentinel tag or not?

charred ridge
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mana% isn't sentinel tagged

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but this fire dmg over time is

grim rune
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so if I use lp1 and choose only mana

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im good?

charred ridge
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yes but i mean you'll want 2lp and mana% + flat mana

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otherwise u can just use a chest from any class and slam flat mana

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the point of mana% isn't that it's better than flat mana, it's that you can use 2 affixes for mana

grim rune
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i see

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1900 mana starts to feel good

grim rune
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here we go boys

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ggs

charred ridge
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gl

grim rune
cosmic wagon
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I thought if you use a sentinal or any other class base it would turn the legendary for that class only? I once used a rogue base then i couldnt use it?

grim rune
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u prolly slammed with rogue only affix

cosmic wagon
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ah could be.

scarlet flicker
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if I slam mantle of pale ox with strength using sentinel chest...will I still be able ti equip it? because it won't let me put strength on acolyte chest

charred ridge
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it should yeah

grim rune
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so close XD

charred ridge
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wrong league :/

pearl scarab
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I spy a vk in your future

drowsy anvil
# left whale

There is a better amulet for completing the new mini boss breed🤔

charred ridge
pearl scarab
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but the season is many days, why not play everything

drowsy anvil
charred ridge
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time is limited

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but maybe if there's something interesting to do on sentinel

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rn sentinel just sounds like last season but worse

drowsy anvil
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I’ve just got one, pretty solid

charred ridge
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so im not sure why i would play it

left whale
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I do have it with 2 LP

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And +2 lvls

drowsy anvil
grim rune
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worst modifier

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for flay

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ever

pearl scarab
versed fox
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any suggestions for negating health on kill

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a unique I am currently using but hoping to replace later has some

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and it's toooo much healing

serene lichen
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Corrupted form bugged af and doesn’t work right

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The considered low health part *

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Trash amount of bugs useless new primordial bugged uniques and passives

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First lich point 8/8 40% increased damage tripled at low life doesn’t work with corrupted form unless you’re actually under 35% life 36-50% the triple part falls off

charred ridge
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did you test that?

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i've heard it before and i believe it

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but the person didn't test it

drowsy anvil
amber oxide
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Is Nemesis my best bet for trying to get an LP onto a good core of the mountain?

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Cannot stand running the dungeon anymore for a 1LP version

charred ridge
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that and the weaver tree node that spawns dungeon mobs in your echoes

pearl scarab
amber oxide
versed fox
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got my architect's. ward tripled. life is good.

serene lichen
charred ridge
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i just need to know how you tested it

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on the dummy or with tooltips

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i know tooltips are bugged but it doesnt mean ur dmg is bugged

serene lichen
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95% atm, hard confirming it

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rn

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making sure theres no other interactions like something that says below 35% and not explicitly low life

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like why are these not worded identically

half relic
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what builds are yall playing / enjoying?

dark inlet
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Chaos Flay, starting to really come together now that I'm getting a bit more mana gear

rough ledge
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does incipient decay on aurora of decay not convert with physical or cold? the animation is still green and its applying poison stacks which i have 0% chance to do....

amber relic
half relic
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kinda wanted to do a minion build

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not sure what to go with

serene lichen
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and then when i take off the amulet, once the hp regens naturally to 35%, the damage goes from 120 to 40

charred ridge
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that's tooltips

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but did you test the damage

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like

serene lichen
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I mean

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I can yeah

charred ridge
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cast spirit plague and see for how much it ticks

serene lichen
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Sec

charred ridge
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it won't have variance cause it's a dot

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or at least it shouldn't

serene lichen
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Good call

charred ridge
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hit damage has 20% variance, so dots are convenient

serene lichen
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Yup yup

charred ridge
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and unless they changed something in 1.3, the dot dmg should be snapshot upon application

serene lichen
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I’ll just be using the no regen amulet

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Only item equipped

charred ridge
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cool

verbal belfry
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I got this ring with T7 dexterity but horrible other affixes. Should I imprint it?

serene lichen
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It does ramp but I think it has to do with server ticks

verbal belfry
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My aspirational build has T7 dex on the ring

serene lichen
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No it’s shit, unless it’s better than anything u have then it’s gold for you

verbal belfry
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Its my first T7 affix

serene lichen
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Nice bro then it’s awesome

verbal belfry
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but my ring is 3 LP

serene lichen
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Do it up, you don’t lose the item u just take a pic

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So what do it for now

verbal belfry
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and the other is red ring which I dont have yet

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I was thinking I could imprint it and use the others I find to reroll affixes?

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will new copies have forging potential reset?

serene lichen
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Yeah man 100% remove the others

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Rune of removal maybe u hit the horrible affix and u can put on the ones u like

verbal belfry
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well this one is at 0 forging potential

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I'm wondering if I imprint and another T7 dex drops if thatll have max forging pot

serene lichen
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That doesn’t copy

verbal belfry
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what doesnt copy

serene lichen
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Forging

verbal belfry
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cool so I should imprint?

serene lichen
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Idk bro I’m not you

verbal belfry
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?

serene lichen
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It literally has no cost to you

verbal belfry
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everything has opportunity cost

serene lichen
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Ok actually you’re right

charred ridge
serene lichen
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But it doesn’t ruin the item and you have nothing better

charred ridge
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any noticeable difference above and below 35%?

serene lichen
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So do it for now Brodie

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Idk I’m too frustrated rn w the game having a smoke

charred ridge
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like on the first tick

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rofl alright

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ty for your testing

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the LL is most likely bugged and not just a display

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but it'd just be nice to know for sure

serene lichen
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It almost definitely is bugged

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Like I’m 99%

charred ridge
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i'll test it

serene lichen
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Here’s why I noticed in the first place

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I have dot bypass and self dot from stuff like aura of decay

charred ridge
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im finally done with my slams for the day so i got time to test xdd

serene lichen
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And when I get under 35% my dots start annihilating me

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It’s whatever anyway for a lot of things the 120% 8/8 isn’t that good of a node I’d be heartbroken over, but a big inconsistency for sure. I have a bunch of other planned when on low life stuff like idols which wouldn’t work if I’m leeching to above 35%

Otherwise I will just not use corrupted form and just use leech equal drain to stay low

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But I planned to use the frenzy leech belt and it’s acting bugged as f too and maybe scornful lich will ruin it more idk about to quit the game and just play new league

charred ridge
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it seems to work actually

serene lichen
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Dear diary…. Tried to make a non exploit legit char w/o using bugs and just play normal for once but everything normal is bugged

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Which

charred ridge
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my damage is higher below 35%

serene lichen
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Yes it should be

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It should be higher at 50% also

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Due to corrupted form

charred ridge
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why would it be higher at 50%

serene lichen
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Because read corrupted form

charred ridge
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i mean with corrupted form, and the low life node

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my damage is higher at 20% than it is at 50%

pearl snow
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with corrupted form it should be the same below 35% and 50%

charred ridge
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oh yeah so it's not working

serene lichen
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Yes brother that means it’s NOT working

charred ridge
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LOL

serene lichen
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lol

charred ridge
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yeah i did the right test

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and came to the wrong conclusion

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😂

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it's 5am and i failed 10 t7t7 slams today

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i have an excuse

serene lichen
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Damn bro gigablaster

charred ridge
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but yeyeye it's not working

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F

serene lichen
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Yea so if u leech back up or get health on hit to above 35% u lose all those benefit

charred ridge
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yeah

serene lichen
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TRASH

charred ridge
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i don't think there's a ton of benefits for LL anyway

serene lichen
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there is

charred ridge
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it's literally just that one node

serene lichen
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no

charred ridge
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and the 100% inc in reaper form

serene lichen
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no more

charred ridge
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enlighten me

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you mentioned AoD earlier?

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i didnt really read that whole tree

serene lichen
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WHATS ALL THIS

charred ridge
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oh

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idol stuff

serene lichen
charred ridge
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yayaya

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i guess you playing the wrong build until they bugfix

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😂

serene lichen
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i can still pivot tho out of health lech into leech ----> drain. im still interested in it as long as that still works for the belt ill play

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but i was hoping to use a lot of that low life stuff and get dot bypass to hp but leech it back faster than it dot me

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spirit plague is cool tho, never really looked at it much, i like

half relic
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any leveling acolyte build yall reccomend

pearl snow
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warlock or necro

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just do anything DoT and chaos bolts or just minions

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both slap with minimum gear

half relic
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kk ty

pearl snow
serene lichen
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so having dots bypass but having a lot of leech is really nice but at this point not sure that justifies it

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like 1000-2000 max ward is really hard to justify

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and all of those low life things are super high % damage scaling but not being able to take advantage of them when you leeching constantly back up to 50% is not good

pearl snow
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yeah im only using the DoTs bypass because of AoD being one of my main dmg sources on poison atm

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however that has killed me like20+ times

serene lichen
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yea so its ticking pretty normally, and then when you get low it super spikes a huge tick

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so if you get to 35% for whatever reason, the next ticks probably execute u

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this ios what i started noticing

topaz marlin
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if I'm necromancer, would this give me 4 archmage?

pearl snow
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"You can only summon one Skeletal Mage, an Archmage"

topaz marlin
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but I still get 2 Archmage as Necromancer bcuz of innate Necro passive?

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or is that the only special exception to this node

pearl snow
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Your max count doesnt matter. This forces you to only be able to summon a single mage

topaz marlin
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but I still get 2 Archmages somehow?

pearl snow
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so in game you are summoning 2?

topaz marlin
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whoa nvm it don't work

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I rmb I had 2 archmage last season

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maybe misrmb

half kelp
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ok ok

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this new season slaps

sweet spade
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Did you submit a bug report yet

swift forge
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If the low life part isn't working, would it be an idea to maybe drop marrow for death seal and make it cap your HP at 35% until fixed?

fossil basin
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without le tools dmg calculations, i cant understand which idols affix will be better for my lich build, i have two options:

  • X% increased damage while transformed (range 26-70)
  • X% increased necrotic damage (range 17-45)

can someone explain: what will be more profitable to have for damage? max value i get for transformed ~58

grim rune
obtuse quest
grim rune
# serene lichen

Tbh if that’s not working it’s completely useless to use corrupted form

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U handicap urself playing it

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For 40% dmg and no benefit XD

hollow flint
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Corrupted form is great for overleech though

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Its where most of my damage comes from in my berserker belt build

fossil basin
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so transformed dmg is better?

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also i try to find good base for lp2 armor, because in tools i see affix with necrotic dmg while transformed, but never droped one more that t3 in game(

obtuse quest
fossil basin
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now i have this

sweet spade
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My form keeps breaking between echos. I gotta really try to zoom and with pots to maintain

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I just let it drop off when looting and have a few seconds in new echo where I dont have it

grim rune
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Only good part is leech

hollow flint
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Which is build enabling, so pretty big imo

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Considering there are no other ways to overleech in the entire game anymore

fossil basin
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so if you overleech than you reduce your damage taken from enemies? i though it is capped and dont do anything

hollow flint
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I dont really understand the question. Without overleech your leech is lost once you are full hp

grim rune
hollow flint
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Yeah! And combined with leech turned into damage its a big more multiplicator for damage

grim rune
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i mean leech into damage is bad for maps

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for bossing yeah

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@abstract summit not ethical

hollow flint
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Doesnt feel bad on maps at all

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Rares just die from alone since you get all the leech from aoe

grim rune
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ah u play belt

hollow flint
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Yeah

grim rune
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dunno how it would work around 1000c

hollow flint
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Only at 400c right now

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30% increased damage taken does feel sketchy though

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I might switch to blossom at high corruption to be giga tanky

grim rune
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i play mana flay

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so >.>

hollow flint
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Yeah thats a very different build even though its both flay

sweet spade
grim rune
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890

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well around 780-900 depending on echo

rare eagle
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What do you level as into mana flay?

grim rune
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dunno I leveled as lich with harvest till i got tilthe

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feels good

sweet spade
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If Corrupted form dmg doesnt work that's a massive negative despite the leech

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Really may as well go noobzor mana flay then

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@charred ridge do you have a new build link or just whatever is on your YouTube?

granite venture
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for wraith lord should I go Primal Cadence for AOE, Horn of the bone wisp for +3-4 to all my skills and increased damage for me and my minions, or a t8 afix?

lost gale
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Between these I just realised that Necromancers can functionally get 2% cold pen per intelligence for themselves and/or their minions.
There's ~140% frostbite chance for minions between the Necro & Lich trees too but you can also have it apply to the player.

Maybe chaos bolts frostbite could be legit or even some minion frostbite build

hollow flint
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Would be cool if that works

wise crag
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Wondering, I leveled an acolyte and I'm planning to transition to flay lich once I got my boots and "basic" gear. I leveled following maxroll acolyte leveling, but it only shows up to level 70, and I passed it already so now I'm kinda lost. Is there any "transition" build I could play after leveling, but before flay lich? I'm starting to have problems in the last monos (not empowered). Also, I'm quite a new player, so most likely doing quite a lot of mistakes/gear is bad etc

Thanks in advance!

lost gale
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but that's a bit tricky to setup in some ways

grim rune
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then go manaflay as u get more uniques + mana

umbral garden
grim rune
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bruh wtf is this damage

wise crag
grim rune
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so i forgot to remove glyph of chaos

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and it changed my t7 necrotic dmg

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to fkn leeched...

hollow flint
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Time to play a leech build omegalul

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Its destiny

grim rune
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fkn 450k favor wasted

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oh my god

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fk this game

hollow flint
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It was only a single T7, thats not too bad

grim rune
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nah it's just dumb, who tf would like to SEAL PRIMORDIAL AFFIX with chaos glyph

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it shouldnt be possible

wise crag
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@grim rune Hey sorry, by any chance u know where I can a build for harvest lich? All I can find is flay lich

hollow flint
grim rune
wise crag
grim rune
wise crag
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I'm waiting to get boots and a couple uniques before I transition to that, but can't push empowered with my current build I think

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Oh okey, guess I'll start with that once I have some gear I guess

hollow flint
hollow flint
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3lp tongue?

wise crag
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Damn how u get so much favour, do you get more exponentially as you level up CoF?

hollow flint
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You get quite a lot at high corruption

wise crag
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Oh ye, guess I forgot about the actual endgame lel

grim rune
wise crag
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Jeez, definetely need to do smth with my build and push to empowered

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I get 8k now and I'm happy to get 4 or 5 prophecies

hollow flint
wise crag
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Might not be extremely good with only boots but... Also farming to get the unique dagger from the beast thingy

hollow flint
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Boots are super important, yeah. I got mine from runes of ascendance

wise crag
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I should definetely try that, have 12 runes

hollow flint
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No clue how easy mana flay is to gear, im playing melee flay

wise crag
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Do I need specific base to use the ascendance?

hollow flint
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Any base works

wise crag
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So I just gotta find 12 boots, and use the rune

wise crag
hollow flint
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No clue there either, I stack strength and leech

grim rune
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hehe, we all know where it is going

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im so ready now

wise crag
hollow flint
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Nice!

wise crag
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I also have the snowblind helmet, so I think I will try to get the beast dagger and reroll

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And hopefully I end up with better build than now

hollow flint
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You can also get a traitors tongue from ascendence rune if you dont have one already

frosty herald
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Ohhh abomination isnt eating yhe dino anymore

half kelp
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hmm did they change the requirements for emp monos

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reached the middle island but cant go emp

obtuse quest
half kelp
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uhh no

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they come at random at the end of a mono right?

obtuse quest
half kelp
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ahh, so its different than when i last played

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thanks!

grim rune
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bruh the positioning of uber is so random

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it's so annoying this fight while not 1 shoting is so RNG

vapid zenith
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Nemesis, havoc, and a little luck goes hard

hollow flint
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Oh boy I would kill for that chest

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Mobs ofcourse, I would kill some mobs

vapid zenith
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If I would I'd creation it and give you a copy lmao

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*If I could

grim rune
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is second phase wasnt such clusterfk it would be easier XD

autumn bough
vapid zenith
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I saw your other vid with the two hander and arrived at almost exactly the same thing as the planner you just posted lol

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Good to know I was on the right track

autumn bough
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stronkk!

sweet spade
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charge in this game is way overtuned, esp with speed on mobs

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btw @autumn bough corrupted form doesn't work with the lich first skill 3x dmg thing

autumn bough
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rippp

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well not my fault

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ehg fix the game

grim rune
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it doesnt work 🙁

sweet spade
autumn bough
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what?

sweet spade
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what would you take instead of corrupted form since half of it doesn't work

autumn bough
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nothing

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why would u even bother when build shits on everything in the game

sweet spade
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isn't the build paper?

autumn bough
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not if you get gear

sweet spade
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what gear.... the belt?

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all the gear slams mana? 1 ring slams endurance?

autumn bough
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check maxroll tanky aspirational thats what i would go for

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and tbh i tested it for hours on 1k cor

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never died, but i tested on offline without online bug

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which supposed to be fixed now?

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🤷‍♀️

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idk why people saying its squishy

sweet spade
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do you get stunned a lot without vise

autumn bough
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just use death seal correctly and youll never die

sweet spade
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on bosses you can time death seal, when zooming through maps it's a abit sketch to time death seal

grim rune
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sometimes same phase has like 123412414124 different skill setups

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from him

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dunno the clusterfuck after 50%

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is most degen in all arpgs

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i've played

sweet spade
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tbh death seal vs 1 mob is much more manageable than zooming through maps

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pizza and purple line are the only 2 skills you need to seal probably

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the rest shouldn't 1 shot (i think?)

grim rune
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WHY UBER ALWAYS PUTS THESE VOID POOLS ON HARB

autumn bough
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well that only matters on low budget no?

sweet spade
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who do you think is reading your maxroll guides.....

autumn bough
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i mean u have to learn uber mechancs

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either u do that or get so much dmg that it doesnt matter

grim rune
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its random bullshit

autumn bough
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nah they all have triggers

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and cooldowns

grim rune
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I go for 1st harb

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1shot it

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i go back to uber

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and then he has 123123123123 different setup

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every time

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1 time he casts freaking frost orb

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sometimes he jumps backwards

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and hits me

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sometimes he insta goes 3 slams

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sometimes there is no beam

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sometimes he gets stuck

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RNG

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then every time i get to second harb he puts 123123123 void pools around him

autumn bough
# grim rune and then he has 123123123123 different setup
  1. beams go off on arena regardless of what uber doing every 15-25 sec, u need to look tunklans for exact timing, but its always same period of time
  2. frozen orb is cast every 40-50 sec or so, chaining with fire so it goes cold-fire-cold-fire and triggers if its off cd and you are outside of bastion radius from boss
  3. jump backwards has some cd and triggers if you are inside of bastion radius
  4. pizza is usually casts between other abilities
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there is some rng between pizza and all other abilities but other than that its all triggered

charred ridge
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and i can stand in the black rectangle

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im not saying it's something you should do but like

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if you want to build it like that it's hard to die

charred ridge
autumn bough
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idk either they have to be doing something wrong]

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or no mana helmet/frailty

charred ridge
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if you don't do enough damage you will get an ice blackhole no matter what

autumn bough
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like build is not squishy

charred ridge
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but if you do enough damage and you bait the ranged attacks he wont do the cold blackhole at all

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if the fight lasts under 1 minute you can script it entirely with no blackhole

charred ridge
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profile name Noobzor

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you just opt out of zhp passives (scornful) and equip red rings

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@grim rune if you wanna show footage it's easier to diagnose the issue

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if there is one related to gameplay

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or planner too

grim rune
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yeah I'll get home

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will show footage

stuck owlBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (80) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,511, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 1,715.34, Regen: 18.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 169%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 83 Int / 6 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 44% / 70% / 70% / 26% / 67% / 27%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 453
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (41)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,353)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

charred ridge
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maybe start with planner tho cus if you dont have enough gear then it'll be easy to see why you die xdd

grim rune
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damage is completly not problem

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i nearly 1 shot all phases

charred ridge
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you get to 67% ward trigger after the slam?

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like when you go dodge the slam is it already at 67%

grim rune
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yes

charred ridge
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ok then it's mechanical issue

grim rune
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he doesnt even trigger

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slam to 63%

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its fear barrier into 1st harb

charred ridge
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are you spec'ing skellies to abuse marrow shards?

grim rune
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yep

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and bees on belt

charred ridge
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ok

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can you try it without fear

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cause it'll be harder for me to know really what your damage looks like compared to my experience

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if you fear it

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nothing inherently wrong with fear it's just i have no reference point for it

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cus ur mana is a little low imo but maybe bugshards can compensate

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also take out the points in LL node and put them in leech

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im not sure if i had 8/8 in my videos but if i didn't it's an oversight

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cus leech = dmg and LL is bugged anyway

grim rune
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2.2k mana with tiltche

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Still low :(?

vapid belfry
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Skellies on boots is enough for marrow right?

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Like the volatile on Harvest is giga bait surely?

vapid belfry
charred ridge
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not sure how much gear it'll take to uber in 40s with mapping setup

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wouldnt be surprised if you always need at least 1 stardial

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well with bugshards you can certainly do it in mapping setup but after they fix it idk

vapid belfry
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Ty

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Guess the other question is do you still go corrupted form for mapping, at 900-1k corruption I feel just a bit too squishy

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At least during death seal downtime

charred ridge
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do you have immortal vise?

vapid belfry
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Yeah but not with LP, been sticking to blood mage

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Tbf I can defo upgrade boot and belt, missing hybrid on boots and flat health on belt

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Forced to run woven as I need the crit avoid for now

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I am not risking getting crit by a thornclaw or some bs

charred ridge
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i have 4675 "ehp" with corrupted form (just hp x endurance x vise DR) and 4387 without

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so not only is ehp slightly better (but not a huge diff), you also get perma leech

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which you don't have without corrupted form

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and take off this node for mapping it's bait

vapid belfry
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True, tbf the stats from form is just so insane

charred ridge
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it looks like a defensive node but it's an offensive node with scornful leech

vapid belfry
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30% more hp and 10% of that as endurance

charred ridge
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it actually griefs your leech you don't want it if you wanna be tanky

vapid belfry
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Ty for the help btw, appreciate it

charred ridge
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yw

charred ridge
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just do minor idol prophecies

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they're such an easy way to get an absolute ton of mana

charred ridge
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but think i might take it off later

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so i can run ward

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rn i have no ward but in some setups u can have bursts of 10-15k ward on top of your normal hp

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and also get 4 passive points for free

sweet spade
vapid belfry
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That's the experimental boots right?

charred ridge
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on letools

charred ridge
sweet spade
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Oh right

charred ridge
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speaking of ward

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does this work at all?

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im running 200% poison res rn

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and dont ever see my ward go up 1k when getting hit

sweet spade
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Speaking of, does ring and unique prophecy help with that

charred ridge
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yes you do prophecies for red rings

sweet spade
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@charred ridge for some reason I dont see your s3 char on LE tools?

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Nvm

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Mobile bug

vapid belfry
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Cause the hit would have to knock you below half, but you're already below half

vapid belfry
charred ridge
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makes sense

sweet spade
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How do you crit avoid with that setup @charred ridge

sweet spade
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Uhhhh

charred ridge
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think crit avoid is overrated but u can use woven flesh or slam blind on a t8 rune dagger

vapid belfry
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Honestly a good enough exalt will be enough

charred ridge
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or slam t7 armor+crit mitigation somewhere

vapid belfry
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Like t7 reduced crit

charred ridge
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there are options if you want it

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i dont personally care

sweet spade
#

What primordial are you using also?

charred ridge
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relic

sweet spade
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Oh right. Thats primordial

vapid belfry
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Thing is crit reduced is better than crit avoid imo, cause like you have to have 100% avoid but you can get away with 70%ish reduction

charred ridge
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ye but woven flesh gives 100% straight up

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with no roll range

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so it's a good option for that

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has 40% increased leech for scornful dmg so it's an offensive option as well but idk kind of jack of all trades master of none

vapid belfry
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Yeah until you get a nuts chestpiece with t7 mana t6/7 crit reduction you just used woven flesh

charred ridge
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i wouldnt slam t7 crit reduction on a chest piece cause you lose mana

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unless you don't wanna use mana%

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best options are belt/gloves

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sacrificing hp or melee aspd

vapid belfry
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Nah you don't slam it, you have to natty drop a double t7s/ t7 + t6

sweet spade
charred ridge
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oh you mean straight exalted chest

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on what base

vapid belfry
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Cause 1 crit and you're dead

charred ridge
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thats hardcore mindset

lost gale
charred ridge
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1% doesnt matter in softcore

vapid belfry
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But crit reduction taking 70% + is fine cause you only take 30% > damage so it's w/e

charred ridge
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i mean i run 0% crit mitigation and i havent died to a crit in the last 10 hours

sweet spade
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@lost gale but woven flesh is 100% avoid? And i dont think any flay build uses anything less?

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Blind is 100% too?

charred ridge
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blind is 100% if you hit a mob and it procs

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not the most reliable in maps but it's good enough

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very reliable on bosses

vapid belfry
charred ridge
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well

vapid belfry
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All Res if you really need it

charred ridge
#

the thing with exalted bases is you can't have mana% on it

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so you still lose mana

sweet spade
#

What flay build even has crit reduction anyway?

charred ridge
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unless you're willing to give up a ton of damage you're pretty much forced to go unique chest

vapid belfry
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But it's pretty much aspirational

sweet spade
#

Ya that's mega luxury zone

vapid belfry
#

If you really want you can even get the chest affix for last bear

charred ridge
#

with immortal vise & lich passives you can have up to 40% hit dmg from rares delayed over 4 seconds so that's kinda crit mitigation

charred ridge
sweet spade
#

@charred ridge your live char still goes Corrupted form?

charred ridge
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yes

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oh wtf

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that actually happened

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got a 777 proc from a 77 imprint

sweet spade
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I'm confused. Corrupted form has dmg bug, and you dont have 66% leech node. So why go Corrupted form?

charred ridge
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more ehp and infinite leech

sweet spade
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Doesnt the leech stop at 50?

charred ridge
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no

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leech stops at 100

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guys the 66% leech node is bait

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it's an offensive node

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not a defensive node

vapid belfry
#

T7 increased health + giga endurance

sweet spade
charred ridge
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i did it just above

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i have like 200 more hp with corrupted form vs without

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when factoring in endurance

vapid belfry
sweet spade
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I'm getting chunked/stunned so much. Despite CF, woven flesh. And i have % health on belt too (but not brew)

vapid belfry
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Took me a good couple of hours to get used to mapping as mana flay

sweet spade
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It's mostly mobs with charge or leap

vapid belfry
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Yeah but thornclaw and bumble bears are just straight overtuned

sweet spade
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There's a osprix with charge that's annoying AF too.

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Insta stun

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I dont think anything else is much of an issue

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I dunno what to do against those charge mobs. Basically just get vise somehow and that's it?

grim rune
charred ridge
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ye

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well it's less about dropping the points and more about taking the leech

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as the leech dmg is obscene

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but ya

charred ridge
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for dmg with scornful

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diff conversation

sweet spade
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@charred ridge why do you use traitor instead of t7 or t8 necro dagger?

charred ridge
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how do you crit cap with necro dagger?

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im not even crit capped with a tongue

grim rune
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@charred ridge so this node doesn’t work too with corrupted form ?

sweet spade
lost gale
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honestly the low-life thing not working for corrupted form is a joke

sweet spade
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oh, prob dual phantom grip?

lost gale
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it's one of the first things they previewed

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it's basically the headline of the lich rework alongside flay and it doesn't work

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cmon ehg, get it together

grim rune
charred ridge
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1200%?

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is that worth it 🤔

sweet spade
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i have no idea, you're the build god

charred ridge
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it's rhetorical

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stardials even at 1lp are worth 1200% increased damage

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i dont see why on earth i would use other rings if i'm looking to get damage

sweet spade
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wtf

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how 1200?

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the spell dmg part?

charred ridge
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72% spell dmg on base + slam 120%

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192%, you have two rings, and multiply by 3

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1152% increased dmg

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and there is also 20 mana on the implicit times 2 times 3

sweet spade
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is the first lp meant to be used on spelldmg instead of int?

charred ridge
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can use either

grim rune
#

Did any one report the corrupted form bug ?

charred ridge
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i havent mathed one against the other

sweet spade
sweet spade
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zz, i need a new passive tree with this corrupted form bs

grim rune
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Eh

lost gale
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that's crazy

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oh nvm

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I misread the item

charred ridge
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doesnt double dip yeah lol it's just each stardial is like 3 rings

grim rune
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Maybe they fix it before season 4

charred ridge
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cool

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i missed my pale ox but that's cool

grim rune
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Zzzz

sweet spade
#

btw @charred ridge i think your char is missing 3 passive pts

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im 97, you're 100, and i have 3 EXTRA pts

charred ridge
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yeah i was respec'ing

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im done now

sweet spade
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eh, it's not live update

grim rune
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I think I’ll pass Uber till they fix corrupted form

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So see ya in 2 months

charred ridge
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you really dont need low life for uber

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like the fact that it's bugged

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has essentially no impact for this build

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you lose like

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maybe 10% increased dmg

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lol

grim rune
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I’ve sent u my build , what should I change to actually beat that fker outside changing 120% to leech XD

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And getting maybe 150 mana more

charred ridge
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send footage

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but ye i mean 150 mana is probably like

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15% more dmg for chaos bolts and prob like double triple that for marrow shards

grim rune
#

But then I need shred armor

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Gotta find t7 t7 gloves

charred ridge
#

you say it like it's not a big deal but it's a huge deal

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do you not have armor shred?

grim rune
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On gloves only

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Like 40%

charred ridge
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then keep your gloves

grim rune
#

Ye but it’s t6 mana

charred ridge
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when i checked you had a lot of idols that werent double mana

grim rune
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Low roll

charred ridge
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just upgrade your idols

grim rune
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Okay

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I’m playing t8 dagger tho

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Instead relic

charred ridge
#

literally the first thing i did when i got CoF rank 12

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was go spend 500k favor on minor idol prophecies

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that got me like idk 600 mana or whatever

grim rune
#

U think it’s better to go t7 traitor and go relic for idols ?

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Or stay like that for now

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Dagger is meh too

charred ridge
#

can u link planner again

grim rune
#

But huge dmg

grim rune
charred ridge
#

ty

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that dagger is terrible

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yeah get a traitor's tongue

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thing is it only has 1 affix aside from your t8

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thats really not good enough

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you'd want an actually well crafted dagger for it to be good

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with 2 prefixes and shred

grim rune
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Gotcha

charred ridge
#

and you are investing way too many affixes just to get crit capped

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it's not worth it

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get a traitor's tongue so you can get crit capped easily and then slam 120% spell damage on your stardial

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on 2 stardials tbh

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if you're lazy you can keep that phantom ring

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but if you have t7 rings in your stash it's so easy to slam stardials

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try to get some good rolls

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on the stardial base (spell dmg and mana)

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can just portal up to julra a few times to get some decent ones, dont have to be perfect

grim rune
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I mean I have 3lp stardial in stash

charred ridge
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traitor's tongue can even be 1lp if you want

grim rune
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Waiting for good ring

charred ridge
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yeah 1lp is fine for now

lost gale
#

anyone tried penance on bone golem lately?

charred ridge
#

i mean i see a ton of ways you can improve your gear but if you say you shred uber's hp bar and dmg is not an issue it might not help you

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thats why i kinda wanna see footage first cus maybe it's a mechanical issue and better gear won't do much

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but yeah i think your dmg can improve a lot regardless

sweet spade
#

🤔

grim rune
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Handicapped

charred ridge
#

ah

grim rune
#

I died already 10 times dodging into pool

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I mean I’m joking with being blind

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But ye XD

charred ridge
#

i mean

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what pool

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all you have to dodge is the void orbs traveling across the map, and proper laser placement

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they won't kill you it's just so you dont get frailty stacks and you can do dps

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other than that it's just about placement and baiting his mechanics to let you dps

lost gale
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you have to dodge the necrotic waves attack

charred ridge
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yeah that too

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i mean it's one of the 3 ranged attacks that you want to bait

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they're easy if you actively know you're baiting them

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if you go straight into melee after killing the first harbinger he'll spawn a cold blackhole instead of doing a ranged attack

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then you'll have problems

sweet spade
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@grim runeat the end of the first black hole slam, what % do you get the boss down to?

charred ridge
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for passives just do smth like this

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and that's your reaper form

grim rune
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So I teleport to 1 harb

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1 shot it

sweet spade
#

uhhh - just answer the question

grim rune
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64%

sweet spade
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okay so you're well past the dps check

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like WELL PAST

charred ridge
#

i'd just like to see footage tbh

grim rune
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Yea, I’ll link after I get home

charred ridge
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yeah tyt

grim rune
#

Outside pc atm

sweet spade
#

80%hp/80% ward on uberroth is like passable with very good play and skechy def

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64% means you've skipped like 2 phases

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what was the cof bis lens again? mono, no-no mono, and rhyme or something

charred ridge
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depends on your goals and preference

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frozensentinel has a spreadsheet for it

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or you can just yolo

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it doesnt matter all that much

sweet spade
#

what did you do for idols

charred ridge
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double double lens + minor idol lens

half kelp
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hmm, stygian coal any good anymore?

charred ridge
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last i heard it was bugged

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idk if they fixed it

autumn bough
grim rune
charred ridge
#

can use it if you want it just makes zero diff

grim rune
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Well it’s waste of points

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XD

charred ridge
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ya exactly

grim rune
#

Tbh I’m afraid of damage if they fix corrupted form

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It will skyrocket

charred ridge
#

it wont really change much

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it's actually just very minor

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dont have to make a big deal out of it unless you play poison AoD

deep bane
#

@charred ridge can I send you a private message?

charred ridge
#

go ahead

deep bane
#

I'm having problems with my build

sweet spade
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wait what since when is this a thing

#

???????????????

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i mean, i got a shit 2nd line, but what

arctic grotto
sweet spade
charred ridge
sweet spade
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was not expecting a 2nd line.... so didn't bother with any other lines

charred ridge
#

so congrats you got the world first julra proc

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mechanic literally so useless it took 5 months for someone to see it

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😂

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enjoy your stun chance 😏

vapid belfry
#

Wait jurlas can crit success?

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What's the odds on that? Unique based or like 1% flat?

lost gale
#

waiting for someone to get a crit success on a relatively rare LP3

charred ridge
#

it makes sense that he got it on a 1lp traitor's tongue

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i think tunklabs has the odds

vapid belfry
#

Figured, imagine if there was a 1% chance or something for your lp2 shattered worlds to hit LP3 omegalul

charred ridge
#

food for thought

sweet spade
#

does this give me mana, or make me spend mana?

charred ridge
#

spend

sweet spade
#

oh fk that

#

your harvest tree is kinda weird @charred ridge

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seems to invest a lot into the skill being a dps skill, instead of a support skill

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ie, necro shred, haste etc

swift forge
#

Does anyone have a top tier flay lich build i can compare to? I'm doing the max roll one atm with the high mana requirements and using the harvest scythe, and im curious to see if there are better ones that I could compare to it.

#

You dont need to max that skill lol

#

It works on both 1h and 2h

swift forge
#

But

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If youre doing the build i am, its worth it

charred ridge
#

but it really doesnt matter what you do with it

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only 2 nodes matter

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rest is w/e you want

swift forge
#

Oh Noob, what two weapons are you using on im guessing you're a lich?

sweet spade
charred ridge
swift forge
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Ahh oka6

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Also noticed you don't do the half life node

charred ridge
swift forge
#

Im guessing it's because it's bugged atm?

vapid belfry
charred ridge
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you want this and that, the rest doesnt matter

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im trying out volatile minions for mshard bug

vapid belfry
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If the zombies got the mana bonus from flay it might be worth, but rn it's giga bait

charred ridge
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it's prob good but also it's a bug so who cares

vapid belfry
#

Dunno what volca was cooking with that choice

sweet spade
swift forge
charred ridge
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it's just minion fodder for marrow shard or pale ox if you use that

swift forge
#

How is that a bug tho?

vapid belfry
charred ridge
swift forge
#

Oh

swift forge
vapid belfry
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So zombies = more minions to sacri

swift forge
charred ridge
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oh the one i posted for imaaaaa

vapid belfry
#

But I still don't think it's worth tbh, you Uber run out of mana

charred ridge
#

thats not mine thats just what i recommended for his zhp uber setup

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and yes cus it's bugged

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so it doesnt do anything offensively

swift forge
#

Ahh okay

charred ridge
#

defensively it can be good or not depending on your setup

scarlet flicker
#

is traitor's tongue rogue specific drop?

vapid belfry
#

No

sweet spade
vapid belfry
#

Very few uniques are class locked

scarlet flicker
#

or rogue smart loot whatever..so you do see it on acolyte but way less than say rogue

swift forge
scarlet flicker
#

because I have only seen one drop....and that is very odd since it is a very commmon dagger when I was on my falconer last season

swift forge
#

Then the low life bonus works

charred ridge
#

i mean

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it would not be worth it for dmg

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cus mshard bug is absurd dps

swift forge
#

Ahh nvm then lmao

charred ridge
#

but if you dont wanna use a bug or after they fix it

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then you can do that

swift forge
#

I would hope they'd fix both the broken node and marrow

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Since if they did, we should be fine to not see too much of a dps loss then

charred ridge
#

fixing bugs is generally good yeah

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you will see a massive dps loss if they fix mshard bug

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but the build does so much dmg it won't matter with gear

#

mshard is just like

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having +500 mana or whatever

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it really speeds up progression

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but eventually you have so much dmg it doesnt even matter at all

sweet spade
#

gimme all the unethical builds lmao

vapid belfry
sweet spade
#

ive done like 20 abbs, no nihilis, nuts

charred ridge
#

why unspec harvest

#

100% crit and 32% multi is so good

vapid belfry
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I mean if you REALLY wanted death seal between lich/harvest/CB and ms is say harvest is the weakest

swift forge
vapid belfry
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Personally I'd do those 5 over ds any day but if you really wanted I don't see another you could despec

swift forge
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Im using the scythe that makes it have a cd so when CB procs harvest it nukes

vapid belfry
swift forge
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Mana flay

vapid belfry
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I mean flay/CB/ms are core atm

swift forge
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I am curious if there is a better lich out there

vapid belfry
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And lich is just too good to not spec

swift forge
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Than mana flay

vapid belfry
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Probably not, at least for bossing

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Mapping I think cold harvest is meant to be better

swift forge
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I was hoping to use the new primordial dagger

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But I can't see any build being better with it

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Over the scythe and the tongue dagger

vapid belfry
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The cold harvest build uses it

swift forge
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Hmm

sweet spade
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just to be sure, nihilus drops off normal abberoth right?

swift forge
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Can you link the build? I couldn't see it on last epoch tools

swift forge
vapid belfry
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It's like a 1/8 drop I think

vapid belfry
swift forge
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Hmm okay, ill take a look. Thanks

vapid belfry
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It's basically harvest spam with attack speed and army of flay, it's insane for speed farming

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Not sure how much I like aura of decay = cold on their build though

swift forge
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Now all I wish we had was load outs

sweet spade
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ive seen like 4 lp1 seeds and no nihilus yet

swift forge
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Oof

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Im probs going to just buy one

sweet spade
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cof

swift forge
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Ahh

vapid belfry
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Tbf in 20 abs I saw 2 nihilis, both +1 skill

swift forge
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Gl then

vapid belfry
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The increased amulet drop rate should affect it tbf

sweet spade
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blessing doesn't affect boss drops right

vapid belfry
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Really? I stg the increased X drop rate did

sweet spade
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99% sure it doesn't

vapid belfry
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Tbf I barely pay attention to the those blessings omegalul

versed fox
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I have two taste in bloods. One gives 49% increased physical damage. One gives 8.7% melee damage leech. I have the node that converts each 1% leech into 6% damage. This would give me +52.2% increased damage. Both of these work the same, so the 52.2% increased damage is a straight buff, as it also affects other damage types.

This is correct, yea?

vapid zenith
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Goddammit right as I finish gathering the gear for a swap to Cleaver

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I'm just gonna yolo slam on a sword catcher and not use it

sweet spade
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Orden's watch is so hard, jesus