💀┃acolyte

[obtuse quest]

I'm don't think so damage wise.

[grim field]

that is the dec swine

that leaves belt gloves boots and ring to craft wht the build is missing

btw have u tested out the new wildfire for witchfire build?

[obtuse quest]

Other than T8 sinathia's, there's really not much notable differences.

(Wildfire isn't that good for witchfire)

[grim field]

figured it would help spread ignites 🙁

maybe more for ignite mage than

[obtuse quest]

But you lose the 15% more Dot damage from decrepty

[grim field]

fair so ya would def be better on ignite mage

[north lance]

Oh, they're not letting Abom eat Dino anymore?

[north lance]

look cool 🔥

[violet forge]

if i change Decay to phys dmg, does poison nova turns phys as well?

[dusty onyx]

yes

all effects go physical. Only defiling nova stay the same (and it's already a phys skill)

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[sweet spade]

does rerolling an item also reroll the implicit

[smoky stratus]

Anyone found a way around abom nerf?

[obtuse quest]

Generally no

[sweet spade]

the woven echo thing doesn't reroll implicits?

[obtuse quest]

THe reroll I can think of on woven echoes, doesn't touch implicits, but does touch affixes, not too sure though.

I never noticed.

[sweet spade]

hmm, i got a shit stardial implicit

guess im out of luck

holy shit, a x7/7x exalted just dropped at 300corruption - nemesis tower

[abstract summit]

Yes?

I think it's a full reroll

[abstract summit]

Now only need to follow Noobzor's guide 💪

[sweet spade]

yeah

i am so shocked 7/7 dropped on 300c

wtf

i must've found like 2 last season running 1000c

[abstract summit]

I got a couple too
Staves and swords lmao

[heady mortar]

forbidden black magic or meme build? you decide

[heavy kernel]

was assemble abomination nerfed in the patch notes?

[obtuse quest]

Do you consider bug fixes, a nerf?

[heavy kernel]

whats the bug?

[obtuse quest]

Trex could be eated by the abom, and apprently some of the stats the trex got from it’s unique somehow got passed onto abom

[heavy kernel]

ok, thats a good fixed, but the patch wordings is not clearr

[arctic grotto]

I still feel abom is weak even with multi dino eaten coz dread shade isnt guaranteed crit anymore on all its atks

[pearl snow]

Ignite is calling me back dear lord

[sweet spade]

🤔

[abstract summit]

10 harbinger echo is the hardest content in the game

😄

that said, have you tried not standing in the fire 👀

[sweet spade]

legit even last season it felt just 2nd to uberoth

[abstract summit]

i dont think it's second 👀

ngl i also did have a couple crash outs over it today lol

the charge of the "magic" void monsters in it at 360 did more damage than the same ability on the same mob, posessed champion at 500

[sweet spade]

oh no shit, wow

yeah the charge on thse mobs is nuts too

[sweet spade]

i mean, it literally does as much as the beam from a harbinger lmao

[abstract summit]

ye you gotta clear them up instantly before the harbi activates otherwise you fooked

[sweet spade]

fk

build showcase viedos should be on harbinger echo instead lmfao

screw uberroth, that's easy 40s in and out

[abstract summit]

ikr

[sweet spade]

the sht thing is, as im running to the void dudes, if they charge i die

the hitbox is annoying too

[abstract summit]

new wave spawn == death seal pretty much lol

like i actually bait the previous harbi until i have seal up

tbh that's the worst part. half of the abilities have hitbox issues on that terrain

Last Epoch

[sweet spade]

killed it, zzz

[sweet spade]

this was a good idea

[abstract summit]

LETS GOOOOO

imma slam this beauty so f hard

[dusty onyx]

gamble with harbringer for 2 LP pepega

[sweet spade]

sick rolls

[abstract summit]

that's crazy coms

[dusty onyx]

every time I touch something in my tabs, game almost crash

[abstract summit]

only the best for my baby. already 30 more mana with my shit idols kek

[daring holly]

What are u cooking

[smoky stratus]

My abom build got nerfed to the ground anyone got a good idea what to go for now? Been trying to get my hand on a ladle for rip blood/chaos bolt, but that seems to be impossible.

[dusty onyx]

Wraith king should still be op no?

[abstract summit]

was abom this reliant on actually eating rex or what happened with it

[smoky stratus]

Yea. The prim relic made it so that the dino scaled damage with health and endurance. Soooo, stack those and eat the dino = big dmg

[dusty onyx]

have you tried with frogs?

[smoky stratus]

If we can still eat frogs?

[dusty onyx]

frogs should be tasty for big monster

better meat

[sweet spade]

less protein

[smoky stratus]

😄 Don't think that'll work either, since the patch notes clearly state that the abom can only eat the mobs listed in his description

[dusty onyx]

aaah

can't even eat stupid mercenary

boring human live another day

k game gimme a single T7 ignite double handed sword and I'll be happy

[thorny mesa]

Hi guys, new to the cord, dumb question. I'm running lich with missing hp = ward build, do items that have the same effect stack? aka the chest piece, boots, gloves and passive nodes?

[smoky stratus]

Yup they do

[thorny mesa]

But will that increase the max shield I can get or do I just need to pump HP for that?

[pearl snow]

YOu can do both

It stacks but max hp still means that stack of x% missing hp is higher

[dusty onyx]

You wand hp/ward retention for idols

[charred ridge]

that should be good tech, it even gives you a larger window to set up since then you can interrupt his slam

[dusty onyx]

Don't doggidog game plez

Pogoo

now game give me that T7

[obtuse quest]

If you meant corrupted form's ward cap, that only changes by your max health.
Otherwise, there's no ward cap. You need more ward retention, ward decay threshold, and ward per second instead.

[thorny mesa]

Hmm about to head back to work, I'll post my build but I really appreciate the advice

[visual girder]

Flay harvest is goated

[visual girder]

I absolutely hate the nightmares i swear

[grim field]

For torment scaling should i take both the crit multi and the necro res nodes?

[pearl snow]

yes

[grim field]

Is it reliable enough to craft both on gear than to scale for uber?

[pearl snow]

I dont know if Torment can actually kill Uber. But the dmg increases to Torment are very easy to get on gear

[abstract summit]

so uhm we ran them numbers, and if you all are having trouble fitting in armor shred or want more crit multi...
confluence of fate is kinda good if you can get it with one more LP than your current nihilis

a "budget" option to keep in mind

[grim field]

Do you know of any uniques with the Damage Taken as Necrotic implicit?

[pearl snow]

there isnt any

you can check LET or Tunklab but

I dont think there is any

[grim field]

Damn that would make my build unkillable lol

Shooting for around 250% necro res to help scale torment and since i can stack crit multi i should be able to hit around 400% with somewhat ease

How much dps does uber need?

[dusty onyx]

not bad :p

[pearl snow]

depends on your skill level with his abilities technically LOL

tunklab should have his hp bar or something

[vocal wind]

I was wondering: there's discrepencies on my resistances between what I see in-game and when I import my character on maxroll. My question : Can I trust in-game value ?

[pearl snow]

only trust in game value

[grim field]

Iv done uber meaven in poe1 off 2mil dps lol

[abstract summit]

lmao

i kinda want to play an ailment buld now 😄

[grim field]

New goal unlocked lol

[steady plank]

anyone know how to get sacrifice going? i tried to do a lich with aura of decay/infernal shade/self sufficinet self summning skellies/sacrifice. the shades and auras worked great for clearing the map and i was hoping sac wud be my boss killer but holy it sucked

[grim field]

Could compare in last epoch planner and see if values r the same

I was debating about trying a exploding zombie build but i got scared it would flop mid campaign

Torment is closest i can get to my old ignite ele from poe1

[vocal wind]

the values aren't the same, that's the issue

ah, the lastepochtools planner

[grim field]

I meant the website(since you only said maxroll) but ya if its wonky id do like was stated and only trust in game over 3rd party

[vocal wind]

yeah the values of lastepochtools are the same as ig (or at least very close)

[grim field]

So its probly the back end value they use to calc on max roll

[vocal wind]

yeah, but like in PoE you can't trust what's the game is telling you, so I became wary

[grim field]

Same with torchlight as well but i always compare stats in LE planner since its more reliable

[grim rune]

damage is still bullshit

random 1 shots

while u are everywhere capped

[tawny peak]

is flay lich buggeD?

[pearl snow]

shouldnt be

[dusty onyx]

After messing around 15 runes of havoc, I finally managed to maximize to almost perfectly ignite chance 👀

[kind forge]

now primordial it

[dusty onyx]

There we go 😄

my infinity sword +1

[obtuse quest]

LETools on import like to set the affixes range defaults to average, instead of the exact numbers you have. (Did you change those?)

[queen hawk]

Are warlocks crap? Its low tier on Marxroll and only 2 builds on LEtools?

[echo yarrow]

Marrow shards are yeah. Rest isn't

[obtuse quest]

Warlocks basically didn't get anything too new apart from AoD being a new support skill, so it's just improvement on existing builds.

[dusty onyx]

Muhahaha

[grim rune]

what's the best affix we could get on belt for mana flay?

[abstract summit]

is not

[grim rune]

man, scaling is so dumb. I even tested with other char, while Im armor capped with all resists

some things just 1shot me

[abstract summit]

the beast is bullshit most things are back to normal

[grim rune]

ah ye

beasts scale so hard lol

[abstract summit]

this is what it feels like on non sentinel, it is what it is 😄

[subtle rampart]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgzGBsAcQ

[grim rune]

that's amulet ;p

[obtuse quest]

Imagine a possessed beast. 💀

[grim rune]

im atm using this for flat int for bosses

[subtle rampart]

Do this amulet with T7 mana regen and you forgot about low mana.

[grim rune]

nihilis is way better

and the problem is not mana tho

i need more damage

[subtle rampart]

Yes he better but if he/her has low mana mana guide better

[grim rune]

I love abusing harbs for prophecies with killing bosses lol

[teal cliff]

Please does anyone know the answer to this. makes the game unplayable for me

[drowsy anvil]

Can I summon wraith lord so that he will summon wraiths that will be eaten by abom so that he proc sacrifice?

[obtuse quest]

And then wraithlord will eat up abom.

[grim field]

Try restarting steam+game and see if it continues also check keybinds something might have bugged if you remapped anything otherwise send in a support ticket

[drowsy anvil]

He will eat it only if he reaches wraith limit

Which he will not coz abom will be eating all wraiths

[obtuse quest]

Unless I forgot, I'm pretty sure the piority is that he eats first then suummons.

[drowsy anvil]

He eats other minion only when he reaches wraith limit and only then he starts casting beams

Or maybe not)

[obtuse quest]

Beams are always last.

IF he summons first before eating other minions, that might work. But I'm about 80% sure he eats first.

[obtuse quest]

The easy answer would be "WHy don't you test it?"

[grim field]

Wouldnt the abom prevent him from using beam than?

[drowsy anvil]

Yes

Theoretically

[obtuse quest]

But he doesn't WANt the wraithlord to use the beam anyway.

He wants it to keep summoning wraiths.

[grim field]

To beef up abom?

[drowsy anvil]

To cast sacrifices

[grim field]

Ah

This is why i prefer sentinal for minions less complications lol

[obtuse quest]

The true question: Does abom consider wraithlord as a wraith and eat it?

[grim field]

Lol that would be funny

[drowsy anvil]

I’ll test it

[grim field]

So whats an indicator of a successful build 300 to 600 corrupt or 1k+?

[daring holly]

I saw someone say, abom now only eat minions mentioned in its skill description

[obtuse quest]

Beating abberoth in a decent time.

[obtuse quest]

Yup.

[grim field]

So should only be skeletons and zombies than right?

[grim field]

Uber?

[obtuse quest]

Normal.

[daring holly]

If thats what in the description then i gurss

[grim field]

So if my build claps in under a minute im ok lol

[daring holly]

Maybe they left wraithlors in there who knows

[drowsy anvil]

Yes, it eats lord))

Was nice try though

[obtuse quest]

[grim field]

Bring it up in bugs cuz its doesnt even say wraiths?

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord is a wraith to other skills, so not that surprising.

[hollow flint]

yeah, you can summon wraithlord with summon wraith stuff

[grim field]

I need better glasses lol

Any good crit multi gloves for torment lowlife build or should i just craft?

[drowsy anvil]

Is it ok that my wraith lord doesn’t summon wraiths?🤔

Seems like it’s considered full limit since I can have only one wraith lord lol

[obtuse quest]

That's what people WANT to do when they try to make wraithlord their main minion.

[dusty onyx]

you no longer have the summon wraith skill?

that sucks ass

[drowsy anvil]

?

So wraith lord doesn’t summon wraiths anymore?

[pulsar raven]

not multi (dont get baited by salt the wound), but grasp of blood mage has crit chance

[grim field]

Trying to find ways to scale torment higher

[drowsy anvil]

And wraith lord doesn’t disappear when I change the summon skill. Seems bugged af🤔

[pulsar raven]

wait am i missing how torment scales with crit multi? You might want salt the wound

[abstract summit]

being able to tank the big slam def speeds things up lol

[brisk elk]

Salt the wound gets rid of your crit multi

[pulsar raven]

totally depends how hes getting crit multi to scale torment - if its some other conversion or something it may just work

[brisk elk]

How would that ever be good

You throw away your added crit multi for bleed and poison pen

Which you don't need

[pulsar raven]

i mean if he has something that "converts x% of crit multi to torment multi" it should/may work

I just dont get how crit multi is scaling torment

[grim field]

Theres 2 nodes in fissure to help scale torment as i was explained to earlier 1 is with crit multi and the other being off uncapped necro res i tool both nodes and am now trying to scale torment as high as i can

[pulsar raven]

i cant see the crit multi node on LEtools

[drowsy anvil]

Oh, was there a patch? Abom doesn’t eat vanguard skeleton anymore

[pulsar raven]

i see it ingame. Its interesting, and might be worth testing with salt the wound, because the added crit multi exists, but then the total crit multi is converted, so it depends how its coded - probably doesnt work though

[teal cliff]

Checked keybinds multiple times, restarted steam, restarted game, no change. Stops channel for no reason cant consue all minions

Randomly one night it will work and then next night it stops working

[grim field]

Bottome side

[pulsar raven]

oo, it doesnt mention torment specifically was why i couldnt see it

[grim field]

Ya both nodes scale torment so trying to beef it up as my main killer and use it like poe1 ignite where its a one and done screen clear lol

[brisk elk]

Does torment spread?

Idk much about the relative power of various warlock builds

Witch fire vs torment vs veillock etc

[grim field]

I like torment+plague for spread

[grim rune]

well not bad

[obtuse quest]

Not really? There's a node that makes it if a tormented enemy dies, it has a 50% chance to shoot a spirit (Which applies torment)

Fissure will 'spread' torment way better than the node lmao

[brisk elk]

Anyways for damage you best bet for gloves is probably atrophy for the pen

[grim field]

Thats why im combining the 2 so it has more spread?

[brisk elk]

But you could just go defensive gloves idk how much 25 pen matters

[grim field]

Ya it looks like im just gunna craft gloves as there no more uniques i care for

[brisk elk]

Maxroll torment build uses rav voids

[obtuse quest]

But would it really count as spread? Fissure IS the main applicator anyway.

[brisk elk]

Immortal vise is good too

[grim field]

Is it jumping to.multi targets?

[brisk elk]

Both are kinda hard to get though

How is the max dmg of witch fire vs torment

Idk what kind of dps warlock can even do

I usually only play hit builds

[obtuse quest]

No, one dies, another one gets it. It's default spirit plague's spread which is ehhh

[grim field]

On LE im normaly sentinal minions but i saw how torment acted after talking yo kzb and had to see what it can do

[old hull]

That node just spreads, the bit about the spirit is just flavor

[grim field]

Key phrase being spread 😜

[brisk elk]

If you actually want proliferate

We have literal ignite prolif in LE now

With the new amulet

[grim field]

U can only have 1 primordial and im using the low life one

[brisk elk]

Seems super mid for warlock

You can get way more than double your hp as ward

[grim field]

My main is forgeguard forge weapons in doing this for testing lvling wise its super quick its dot and run drop fissure on minis. If i can scale it high enough it will be my main build depending in what next season holds

[brisk elk]

Witchfire also like spread spreads

Again I have no idea what the relative dmg is

[hot ginkgo]

woah i just noticed now the open portal QOL

👏

[grim field]

Once i get it set up ill dps check and post so u can see torment

[brisk elk]

I feel like I never see warlocks do insane dmg but maybe I'm watching the wrong vids lol

[obtuse quest]

Which is just 1 target. Not like spreading flames where it goes to everything in range.

[brisk elk]

Warlock seems super underwhelming compared to lich and necro except for aoe

[obtuse quest]

Warlocks are mostly DoT players, sooo

[brisk elk]

Well yeah but how much is the dot

Void knights are doing hundreds of millions with time rot

[grim field]

Fissure can hit how many with torment being the main applicator? Than you have a 50% chance per target spreading to nearby on death

[obtuse quest]

Each spirit is a small aoe, so maybe 1-3.
Anything within fissure's range will be tormented. (Admittedly it's a pretty good range.)

Anything outside of that range will rarely get tormented.

[grim field]

Fissure gets pretty big when u have it double width

[brisk elk]

I did see SMK came up with some really sick zombie tech so maybe that's the secret to warlock dps

[obtuse quest]

But it wouldn't be "I just walk with Double overload and everything on the screen gets witchfire for free" big

[grim field]

But that sounds more like RF from poe1 than ignite prolif

[old hull]

Wheel of torment is kinda like that, though it's hard to scale

[obtuse quest]

That's because we don't have true ignite prolif here.

ALl you got is spreading flames.

[brisk elk]

Nuh uh

[obtuse quest]

(And that is ass to scale)

[obtuse quest]

Wildfire embers sucks

Don't mention that thing

[grim field]

Iv done everything i wanted this season(due to bugs) so im going all in on torment and will post results whether it flops or rises

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't even spread half your stacks because it doesn't refresh the duration

[brisk elk]

Never tried it but it literally is ignite prolif no?

[old hull]

Even if it didn't suck, it's different from PoE prolif at least

[obtuse quest]

It is but it might as well not exist.

[grim field]

Its better for ignite mage he refuses it for warlock lol

[obtuse quest]

Spreading flames would do that job better 'spirit' wise.

What game spreads ailments and NOT refreshes the duration lmao

[old hull]

PoE lol

[dusty onyx]

wisp aren't created?

[obtuse quest]

Bruh

[grim field]

Both poe1 and torchlight infinite have spreading ailmentsl mechanics

[dusty onyx]

wildfire spirit is a common trope though.

[lost gale]

its subtle but fissure & profane veil are among the best acolyte skills and they're Warlock exclusive.

Warlock has some okay defenses vs cursed enemies, can do quite a lot of damage with spine of malatross fissure or profane veil orbs

[lost gale]

they should rework wildfire embers to let spreading flames stack instead of the janky ignite prolif or something like that & give it some scaling

[grim field]

I think warlock has great def for certain builds i wouldnt trust it to survive in melee but for a dot based sub class its amazing

[lost gale]

profane veil is a really incredible skill but it isn't 5khp & 100% block so it gets a bit overlooked

[grim field]

Im having more fun with warlock due to mechanics than sentinal rn lol althought i will always feel like a chad having a 2h and shield equiped

[brisk elk]

It still seems really good for single target dps

Repeating your skills and all

Both for hit builds and ignite

[drowsy anvil]

Can flame whips be replaced by chaos bolts with a chance from the node in fissure tree?

[grim field]

If i have enough time i plan on trying a runemaster or sorc ignite with wild embers

[brisk elk]

The strongest build is marksman

[grim field]

Falconer is pretty up there to

[brisk elk]

With heartseeker, fire flask and traps

No I mean wildfire embers build

Falconer is broken but not with embers

[grim field]

Has this been tested?

[brisk elk]

Smk did 5k corruption with his marksman

[grim field]

Who did the testing for other builds with it

[brisk elk]

Last patch

Marksman has extra synergy with wildfire because fire acid flask gives pen per fire res

And embers gives ignite per fire res

Idk I'm just guessing it's the best

Idk about the others

[grim field]

Blackhole ignite is all im saying lol

If i have time ill convert my surge into it and test

Wrong channel so i wont go further into detail than this from black hole. Heat Wave
5/5
makes your uncapped fire resistance apply to your chance to Ignite with black hole at 10 times the value.

[obtuse quest]

Hilariously, that’s the only viable black hole build

[grim field]

Did black hole meteor die?

[obtuse quest]

It never truly lived.

[grim field]

Well looks like black hole ignite it is than

[grim field]

Funny seeing as no one has it on le planner so has it been tested

[mystic warren]

so I'm leveling with the necromancer minion leveling build and just hit 50. I think the Abomination process of the "final" version of the build is super clunky and not something I plan to use, at what point should I switch to an endgame build and which is the easiest/least gear dependent acolyte endgame build right now?

[old hull]

Yes. It's not great. Funnily, wilfire embers helps it a lot indirectly.

[autumn bough]

well i got some bad news for u

😅

cause abom is the easiest to play/gear

and like all other builds are 3 tiers below it, not even close

what do you find clunky about abomination? the summoning process?

[mystic warren]

huh? the lich builds seem to all be pretty highly ranked?

[grim field]

U got a video link of someone playing it? I cant find crap lol

[mystic warren]

any build that requires me to switch skills around during gameplay is straight up out for me

[autumn bough]

they require way more gear

[mystic warren]

that's why I'm asking which one is the easiest to start out with

[autumn bough]

during the gameplay? wdym? you need to do it once per gaming session

[old hull]

Nope, maybe Dread or Perry played it?

[mystic warren]

I'm following the maxroll guide which states to switch skills around to summon the abomination before boss fights?

[grim field]

Drea mentioned it in a pre season 3 but cant find anyone who has actually tested

[autumn bough]

are u talking about this?

it was probably not communicated properly but you need to do it only when you summon abom for the first time or when u die, you dont need to do it every time u are going to fight a boss 😅

if you want brainless not clunky gameplay probably lich marrow shards or harvest or chaos bolts and then transition into mana flay if you want, all of those are similar investment/difficulty with harvest being lowest dps out of 3

[obtuse quest]

Every lich build is gear dependant, to the point that literally farming the core on any other build is way better than playing it without the core. (Which is 70-80 required)

[autumn bough]

i think blood rip/marrow shards isnt, you dont really need anything there

plust it being bugged helps a lot early on kekw

[mystic warren]

okay yeah that definitely sounds different in the leveling guide. I'll take a look, I like minion builds, but clunky "oh yeah just switch these 15 skills around and then do this and that and these 5 more steps and then you have usable minions!" is not for me, I guess I'll have to give it a try.

[autumn bough]

bruh abomination is so op that u dont need to do half of that sht and be better than any other minion.....

the only annoying part is if you die u need to ressummon

but thats on player if they die on a minion build

[old hull]

Abom should basically be immortal

[autumn bough]

like that build with full power/snapshot/clunk etc destroys uber/dummy/anything in the game in seconds

even 1/20th of that power is better than 90% of the game builds

[autumn bough]

i meant if the player dies aka summoner

but abom itself is immortal and has millions of hp

[old hull]

Yeah, I've seen people kill their abom before too though lol

idk how

[autumn bough]

ye there is a node that takes 5% of hp n every ability cast, and it has so much hp that those 5% is more than anything u can leech for from enemies

and u either remove that node or summon skeles to heal

[calm dome]

Ngl, I prefer Infernal Shade over Bone Curse for my abom build right now. Gives it so much speed

And the cdr nodes on abom tree are kinda bait. You get 95%+ with idols. Anything past 100% is diminishing returns

[obtuse quest]

Aren't abom's Cd nodes flat seconds cuts?

[autumn bough]

not all

[calm dome]

These ones

These are bait. Just get minion cdr from idols

The flat ones for the cd abilities are obviously good

[old hull]

When you have a bunch of points the first one at least gives damage still

[obtuse quest]

I thought you were talking about the flat CD nodes lmao

[grim rune]

i wondered why i do less dmg... forgot to equip ignite idol

[odd pasture]

What exactly ist bugged with marrow shards ?

[vapid belfry]

Iirc when you flay and it casts rip blood, and those rip bloods cast marrow shards the added spell damage from mana gets added twice to the marrow shards

[grim rune]

but u need directly cast rip blood tho

?

[proven raptor]

what can you do to make harvest flay more tanky? i have max resist, max endurance, 2k hp and 40% armor. i keep getting overkilled by like 3-4k

[dusty onyx]

Even then, it would not be that much. With 200% cast speed, it's roughly +60 spell power

[grim rune]

u mean this?

[vapid belfry]

Yeah was having a look in this channel, seems to be a misunderstanding/misconception early on this season

Regardless marrow shards is bugged and deals way more damage than it should

[grim rune]

@autumn bough what's the marrow shards bug then

[autumn bough]

There are two, the sac minion node gives 4x more dmg not 2x and the new boots somehow make it proc for 100x dmg, on dummy you can crit for 180+ mil due to this bug

The second one is flay related

[grim rune]

so second one

is this considered direct cast?

[old hull]

No

[odd pasture]

So does it make Sense to Produce more Minions as flay mana lich with summon skeletons at Bosses?

[vapid belfry]

Do the volatile zombies from harvest get the mana bonus from flay? Unsure how it works if flay casts CB which cats Harvest which casts volatile

Cause if they don't wouldn't you rather go top path for the 5% bonus damage after the ms bug gets fixed, since it's less mana spent overall

[old hull]

Shouldn't, flay doesn't give a bonus to minion stats afaik

[autumn bough]

It seems like it still procs marrow shards on this rip proc

[old hull]

So another bug lol

[autumn bough]

Or some other fckery going on, but tldr with boots and mana stacking you can almost oneshot uber now just from shards no bolts

[grim rune]

but u spam flay ?

and u have to have minion to sacrifice tho

[autumn bough]

Yes boots summon skeles and you can manual summon them too

[grim rune]

manualy summoning skelies drops dps xD

[odd pasture]

At least before the Fight Starts :d

[grim rune]

yea

[odd pasture]

My flay Bugs Sometimes, i hold Attack on Boss and Sometimes my char Just Stands there and does Not hit

[willow star]

Anyone kill uber abberoth with abom yet? I’m getting close(ish) but still feel like it’s too slow. Weird since my abom basically one shots everything else at 730 corruption

[obtuse quest]

They'll probably die in one hit, so idk how much uses you'll get out of it

[obtuse quest]

2k hp is er, pretty damn low. Most liches hit 4k before corrupted form drops them back to 2k

[grim rune]

somehow if we wanna 'abuse' minion flay

we gotta summon minions xd

[vapid belfry]

Yeah I think that's what they're referring to

[vapid belfry]

You do have crit avoid right? Other than that death seal

[swift forge]

is there any recommended lich leveling guide for those that don't have the needed uniques? I've been hella unlucky so far and was wondering if there is any guide on a cheese way to level. I have unlocked deathseal and chaos bolt, but just don't know what I'm doing

all guides are about leveling as lock, and then jumping into end game with lich

[proven raptor]

what do i get crit avoidance from? i have the helmet that blinds enemies and prevents them from critting

[obtuse quest]

Blind only works if you hit them first, doesn't prevent off-screen crits

[grim rune]

i still don't have enought dmg for ubser

zzzz

seems im too dumb for this boss

[vapid belfry]

Yeah snow blind would be your source, it's not the best way but it's probably the easiest form to get for that build, what corruption are you at?

[proven raptor]

150 corruption

[worthy arch]

Hey guys I was watching a video where some dude was casting harvest with another ability without having harvest on his bars, does anyone know which skill that is?

[odd pasture]

Same, i literally have the Same Gear AS the Guys in the Videos and they shred through uber Phase 1 and i barely reach the First Ward shield

[worthy arch]

Can't find the video 🙁

[grim rune]

i mean i roll to 80%

[grim rune]

then im stuck on ward phase XD

[obtuse quest]

Chaos Bolts?

[worthy arch]

Yup thank you haha

[formal sparrow]

would anyone use the two combined?

since dread is 30 in necro

[hasty monolith]

has anyone played around with a pure dot build for lich that isnt bleed based? and if so any success ?

[formal sparrow]

maybe you can do something with frostbite

i get 100+ stacks

and im not dot

just from aura and all

[lost gale]

no you can't get both on a single character

but you can get some affix shards

or imprint it, get drops

[hasty monolith]

hmm maybe

[formal sparrow]

hm fair

[autumn bough]

Show character

Or give ingame name

Of account

[grim rune]

zzzz

[vapid belfry]

How are you getting over killed 3/4k on 150 corruption????

[vapid belfry]

After bleed your best bets are either poison or ignite (although the last ignite build I saw was pre 1.0 so it's super old)

[hasty monolith]

Yee i looked through some shit and didnt want to give me a headach haha

[grim rune]

so close yet so far

i died after

[odd pasture]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/yanglareido/character/Ancy

[grim rune]

beam fks me everytuie

[autumn bough]

you are not crit capped, missing primordials, idols arent good, missing ignite on enemies for more dmg on bolts and most importantly missing armor shred

[lost gale]

poison works, you need poison overload from the warlock tree but poison overload is really strong

[autumn bough]

overall u are missing too many things

also seems like you are following noobzors version, getting 2lp rings and idols/relic will be important and dagger with 1lp is kinda pepeL

[torpid plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owb6NlpB honestly im really happy with how my homebrew flay aod lich turned out

[vapid belfry]

Your int is also really low

[torpid plinth]

it kinda cruised through everything up to 900 corruption only issue is the fact that im applying like 20+ bleeds to myself

i think i gotta swap off carrion for mask of indifference now that i am running null portent (was running exsanguinous)

[autumn bough]

int doesnt do anything on that version, there are better scaling

[vapid belfry]

Yeah but surely getting it in the tree is better than some of he options picked

[autumn bough]

oh i didnt even check the passive tree is it a mess/

[vapid belfry]

Like I'd rather spend 5 points in insight over mental cacophony

Personally

[charred ridge]

2lp rings is omega damage boost but tbf i ended up killing in 40s with 1lp (70s no marrowshard bug)

but ye need more mana

mana is the answer to everything 🤷‍♀️

[charred ridge]

looks like u have no armor shred?

armor shred is 58% dps boost

you can get it on 2lp dagger (easy to drop with imprints) or exalted gloves

i didnt calc your crit but you should easily crit cap with traitor's tongue and some increased crit somewhere (like blessing), so you dont need blood mage gloves

[autumn bough]

no armor shred is so monka

🤣

[charred ridge]

ye it's one of the first things on the checklist for ST dps i rmb last season i had my VK farming at 1000c for a while then i go into uber

i look at my gear i tp out go farm a shred idol

😂

[autumn bough]

actually on your ver did you get ignite chance? cause bolts need ignite/damned/bleed/fb and you converted it to cold so no ignite from there

might be free 12%

[charred ridge]

i think if the planner has cold conversion then that's a mistake

cus i dont actually convert to cold in-game

[autumn bough]

oh kk

[charred ridge]

can drop 2 idols for an ignite and convert tho

[autumn bough]

yepp ez dps

cause cold conversion is free 8% more dmg

[charred ridge]

i think wacsa did math for 2 idols vs cold conversion and he said the idols were actually more dmg

but ima check again

[autumn bough]

hmm ic

[charred ridge]

i'll just check rn

[charred ridge]

it's 1% more dmg over the idols so negligible (but better ofc) but i like it more cus it's 2 less idols to farm and u can actually get frailty on the ignite idol

and if you get frailty there it means you can get blind on your t8 rune dagger if you run that

and it'll be more than 1% dmg boost if you run SW instead of idol boost relic

so it's a big W for the rune dagger setup

[odd pasture]

I played around both Versions so ITS a Bit scrapped, i have a dagger with Armor shred atck Speed and t8 necro DMG so i Switch Back to IT and 2 Phantom Grips. Idols are my prio Farming now

But thx for the Feedbacks

Ignite yeah, didnt See it, damned.. also i never thought that crit Cap is important for that build

[real turret]

yooo

[lost gale]

waow

decent rolls even

[charred ridge]

3 or bust?

[real turret]

unfortunately nah

[charred ridge]

unfort

gl on slam

i got a near perfect 1lp so im still tryna find a 140 mana exalted to slam 🤡

[odd pasture]

@autumn bough in your 1 min uber kill video, the Boss stops immediately with your First hit Phase 1, why is that ? I mean the Hammer Swing thing

[autumn bough]

fear on chaos bolts

[cosmic wagon]

@blazing coral How do i tank the swing from uber.
i have 75% phy res but low armor.

I would assume i need more HP? im sitting with 2100 hp.
I can kill uber if i dodge the hits its no problem at all.
its just its annoying that i have to waste time to dodge it.

[ashen quest]

Best way to farm Aaron's will? I have 1 via ascendancy rune. I need a lp2 i put it in my weaver champion drop pool slot found 0 so far

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,934, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,168.71, Regen: 14.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 194%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 8 Dex / 97 Int / 4 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 74% / 74% / 115% / 101% / 118% / 55%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 84%, Threshold: 1,556
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (785)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Flay / Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards / Harvest

[ashen quest]

So hang out in blood, frost monolith? Any CoF there help?

[hasty monolith]

you can buy Prophecy's for chest and then do the chest echos in blood, forst and death monolith

[thorny mesa]

hey hey so i was asking earlier about this chest (ignore the nemesis roll) and frosty feet stacking my ward, but if I remove 1 piece the ward doesnt seem to move

[lost gale]

have you got corrupted form?

you might be either reaching the ward limit imposed by astral blood or the ward limit of corrupted form

[thorny mesa]

I do not have corrupted form

[lost gale]

well your astral blood also puts a ceiling on ward at 2x your maxhp which you might be running into

[thorny mesa]

Oh i didnt even catch that

[thick whale]

Anyone else having issues doing uber abby with abom9ination? I get one-shotted by everything that touches me lol

[charred ridge]

wtf not to sound ungrateful but nemesis dropping items with 39 fp kinda sus 🤔

[thick whale]

it's a double T7, be very grateful xD

[cosmic wagon]

ayo?

[charred ridge]

good rolls for a 2lp

gl on slam

[cosmic wagon]

Mana and shred.

🙏

plz

Playing Mana flay lich.

[charred ridge]

i'd suggest you craft a crit multi prefix as well

or necro pen

so it's 2/3 to get a good hit

instead of 1/3

[cosmic wagon]

Yeh you right.

[cosmic wagon]

i made this on epochtools. just to see what i should be looking for.

[cosmic wagon]

It would probably be Crit>Shred>Health. Mana is guaranteed

[charred ridge]

yeah sounds good

t7 multi is better than t7 pen but i think t5 pen should be better than t5 multi

fwiw

if you get health i would probably consider it a brick just cus a 1lp with better rolls will probably be better

but it can take time to get a near perfect 1lp nihilis so still a W until then

[cosmic wagon]

truee..

[sudden zephyr]

im trying to imprint a 3LP traitors tongue but its only +2/+1 and low crit mult implicit , is it possible for imprinted to drop 3LP with better implicit/explicit rolls?

[cosmic wagon]

@charred ridge Seal the Necro and get health and try to levle up shred and multi?

[charred ridge]

yeah

sounds about right

you can level shred last

like

50% shred and 500% shred will basically have the same effect

you just need some shred

it's your last prio in terms of affix tiers

maybe just make it t2 cus difference between t1 and t2 might be noticeable and it's lowest fp cost anyway

[cosmic wagon]

nah bro wtf why does 1 level up take 27 potental.

its so f cking dead.

[charred ridge]

rofl ye might wanna get another one

[cosmic wagon]

put it in weaver? wouldnt that work

[pearl scarab]

gamble gaming

[charred ridge]

the amulet?

like the imprint nodes?

nah that won't work

most of the affixes will reroll and the fp probably won't go up that much

[cosmic wagon]

fak. I put it regardless now. lets see if it ever drops

[charred ridge]

it won't

you'll get more amulets with a t7 prefix is what you'll get

but not this exact one

[velvet forge]

Friends I'd appreciate some input here. I put together a frostbite lich kind of quickly here, with the intent to be using flay and then harvest to regen mana. I just got to empowered monos and the largest problem I'm noticing now (I don't have all the legendary gear on the build planner yet) is harvest seems to be outperforming flay for applying the frostbite but even then the damage seems low. There's a lot of cold support here but feel not super confident in what I put together, feeling like I likely poorly planned this build 😔

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVK8Xx0Q

^ I have another planner with 2 red rings of atlaria and a nihilis included but those seem a bit out of reach atm.

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (91)

General:

▸ Health: 3,185, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 210.51, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 179%, Regen: 9/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 3 Dex / 71 Int / 2 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 74% / 74% / 91% / 79% / 77% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 71%, Threshold: 955
▸ Dodge Chance: 32% (1118)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (912)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 62%

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Harvest / Flay / Aura Of Decay / Death Seal

[velvet forge]

I'm sure the defense on the build isn't quite too good either but mostly looking for help with the damage T_T

[fathom otter]

i considered going flay frostbite and it seems criminal not to take open wounds node on flay.

[swift forge]

Put 10 points in warlock to get chaos bolt and turn it to cold too

Flay can auto cast CB

And usually the CB do the majority of your dmg

[fathom otter]

also you should max out gravecrawler since it's global more dmg, meaning your frostbite from flay will do more dmg

plasma fountain with good attackspeed grants you more hits=more frostbite stacks

[velvet forge]

This is definitely a good idea, do you think the spectral flay seems worth it? Where should I put points to go towards open wounds

[fathom otter]

if you get enough points then the spectral flay from spectral nightmare is good too. also the obvious chaos bolt procs but then you'd prolly better just going crit and mana

[rapid bobcat]

Is +1 to dex skills on Velocyns Jaw going to be better than 2 lp?

Obviously the slams matter... but i guess what im asking is how valuable is that 1 rank

[velvet forge]

yes when I get nihilis my intention is to max gravecrawler with 2 more points :D maybe should take 2 points from somewhere else for now though?

[velvet forge]

This was my other route @swift forge since you mentioned as well. If I was going to go chaos bolts I was going to just go cold damage and not ailment

But trying frostbite for now instead

[plucky plover]

My guess is missing Army of Skins's Excoriation stacks

I'm new to the game tho, just guessing

[swift forge]

I will say I just got my boots and wow do they make you do some damage

[velvet forge]

Those boots seems to mostly help for hit damage where this is going for ailment. I am realizing though I have very little freeze rate multiplier which kind of defeats the point of the snowdrifts... 😅

[lost gale]

snowdrifts have kind of been superceded by aura of decay for acolytes imo

or at least aura of decay diminishes their value considerably

you could go for freeze rate multi or you could just get more int

[velvet forge]

now that you say that I didn't even see the lowered poison res nodes which would convert huh

[dark snow]

what happens if i stack crit strike chance above 100?

[velvet forge]

i could probably remove points from chill to the bone to go for that instead

[dark snow]

is it useless?

[velvet forge]

this is like a 2x incentive for my build too as I'm trying to int stack as it stands, thanks for mentioning this

[lost gale]

pretty much, but there's a primordial unique which kind of lets you supercrit up to 140% chance

[dark snow]

ahh so

so better not slam this

[lost gale]

you can get an extra 300% crit multi if you have excess crit up to 40% chance, so it isn't quite double critting but it isn't garbage

[dark snow]

i ihave like 56 critical chance better get more multipler now?

[lost gale]

honestly idk about that build in particular

try #🔪┃rogue

[dark snow]

and i realized i am in the wrong class

my bad

[lost gale]

no worries

[velvet forge]

@lost gale while i'm looking for replacement boots do you happen to have a reccomendation to replace the snowdrifts? I agree that they don't seem worth it after looking again

I was going to try raindance if I went cold hits but idk for this

[lost gale]

what skill are you using to apply the frostbites?

[velvet forge]

Current intention is flay and then harvest when out of mana

[lost gale]

the flay boots then

[velvet forge]

they seem pretty useless for ailment no

[lost gale]

attack speed isn't useless and nor is the AOE on excoriation stacks

[velvet forge]

fair enough, I'll try em I have a few pairs

thank you 💙

[lost gale]

you're welcome

[charred ridge]

why can mobs dodge my void well

[rapid bobcat]

Any reason the hollow lich node isnt taken? seems like a bigger damage increase than than anything else, with no draw back.

[obtuse quest]

You need to take the node before it, which kills leech and turns it into damage.

[rapid bobcat]

oooo im dumb

thanks

biggest drawback actually lol

[velvet forge]

Do you guys think there's a good place to pull 6 points to go for this? I avoided it bc spectral flay seemed strong but I like spicy's suggestion to me earlier >_>

[torpid plinth]

im playing bleed AOD with chaos bolts and i path up that way

feels pretty good

[velvet forge]

chaos bolts so strong wish it had more for frostbite T_T

[torpid plinth]

this was only at like 500 corr but still

2.6k bleeds with each bleed having ~ 1k baseline damage before any more multis from individual skills

[velvet forge]

jeeze 😭

[torpid plinth]

im considering dropping bone curse for the 40% more damage from hungering souls

[thick whale]

is contaminated dreams mandatory?
stopping to heal the thing is quite annoying tbh

[torpid plinth]

but bone curse is giving me armour shred on my new loadout

and i gotta get a mask of indifference since i got a null portent worth using the other day and had to drop exsanguinous

and im hitting myself with ~20-22 bleeds

[obtuse quest]

Isn’t that a pain in the ass to upkeep

Unless you’re fire with spreading flames

[torpid plinth]

eh kinda

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK2E8JDo

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Lich (65) / Warlock (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,480, Regen: 24.72/s
▸ Mana: 460.5, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 160%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 17 Dex / 75 Int / 9 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 117% / 128% / 120% / 156% / 92% / 102% / 61%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 1,344
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (91)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,116)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Rip Blood / Aura Of Decay / Flay / Reaper Form

[torpid plinth]

heres where my character was at last night

gotta do a mask of indifference swap and im still kinda ping ponging if i want to run symbol of demise or not

[obtuse quest]

Ignoring the 8 second duration, the target has to be possessed/spreading flamed, and possessed duration is pretty shite

[torpid plinth]

is it ?

[obtuse quest]

Oh no

You didn’t read the nodeeeee

[torpid plinth]

never got around to trying it ok so thats an easy skip if its shit

🤷‍♂️

[obtuse quest]

It’s realistic on fire setups mostly because they can go “lol lmao spreading flames via firestarter”

[torpid plinth]

noted

the only issue i have with a symbol of demise setup is my attackspeed is is SO bad with flay

it just feels bad

[obtuse quest]

Yeah single wielding is oof for att speed

[torpid plinth]

could run wing guard in my glove slot if i swap to symbol

that pretty much fixes the attack speed problem

and i would be going mask of indifference anyways

a 2 LP wing guard isnt too hard to get either

if the build wasnt already so strapped for numbers i could probably shovel in a bunch of crit multi and go salt the wound

but its got like 4 different angles to scale damage at this point already so i just gotta pick one and send it

more mana = more chaos bolt triggers
More life = more dot multi for chaos bolts
Bleed duration (like 300% bleed duration currently with a symbol)
Bleed chance
Bleed pen

[hollow flint]

its a lot of damage though, for melee lich it doubles your damage output

[torpid plinth]

the AOD stuff im specced into just really feels nice for mapping

oh wait holy crap im stupid i just looked at what my tree had

im missing the % more damage per % current life loss

man i got a big dent i gotta polish out

though in my testing since im not 100% relying on AOD for all my output i do think dual wield is better overall

instead of symbol of demise

keep a nice thick 2k ward bubble and deal ALMOST the same amount of damage

[vapid belfry]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqDMP2YA

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,772, Regen: 21.25/s
▸ Mana: 1,283.49, Regen: 14.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 202%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 20 Dex / 95 Int / 19 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 81% / 74% / 71% / 40% / 79% / 82% / 42%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 970
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (80)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (923)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Harvest / Flay / Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards

[vapid belfry]

am i crit capped here, stg im only getting like 89% when i look my stats

[cerulean pewter]

what corruption level are you Cold Harvest players comfortably farming at?

i was at 500 pre monster damage fix, looking to pump it up and was curious

unfortunately have a lot of woven echoes placed so cant right now

[hasty monolith]

Need help with what i need to fix to make uber abby easier to do
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbRY33wQ

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,287, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,277.16, Regen: 14.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 186%, Regen: 17/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 4 Dex / 93 Int / 6 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 53% / 52% / 96% / 145% / 92% / 96% / 33%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 1,150
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (498)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Flay / Chaos Bolts / Harvest / Marrow Shards

[cerulean pewter]

proper dagger base, proper ignite chance idol, better body armour slam

basically compare your build to maxrolls one

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/flay-mana-lich-guide

[amber oxide]

Playing harvest flay speedfarming build...which would you opt for? Feel like I'm lacking dex on the build right now

[cerulean pewter]

cold convert or no?

[amber oxide]

Cold, correct

[cosmic wagon]

@charred ridge After 100 amulets this is the best i have found. idk man

[cerulean pewter]

id opt for the 2nd one, but you do want to get a core of the mountain asap

flay levels wont do much for you and you get crit immune from snowblind

[charred ridge]

rofl i mean that's good enough

[molten bramble]

Your spell crit is 85.2% not accounting for any crit in skill trees.

[cosmic wagon]

the mana roll is low af 😡

[charred ridge]

are you going for double t7s anytime during the league?

cause if so you'll replace your amulet anyway

also dont look at my 1.2 SW

yeah i was not about to wait for that +120

[cerulean pewter]

holy

[amber oxide]

struggling with t4 lightless arbor 1 shots 😂

[cerulean pewter]

np fk the dungeon tbh, spec into weaver tree

[molten bramble]

Double perfect rolls

[amber oxide]

can you elaborate? still new to weaver tree system

[amber oxide]

oh hellllll ya

cheers homie im gonna do that instead of lightless arbor for sure lol

[charred ridge]

naisu

[cerulean pewter]

gl, make sure if you see the amber elementals (the orange crystal guys), full clear the echo dont leave early

cos that means that weaver node proc'd and the map will be full of them

[cosmic wagon]

ahh

[lost gale]

5% less damage taken
wouldn't even use it for levelling

[charred ridge]

it basically didnt get used if im being real 😂

[brittle urchin]

hi which is most important stat here to look for for flay harvest ?

attributes or frenzy efect on me ?

i want to buy an item and idk which to choose

[obtuse totem]

I think there might still be something wrong. 349 corruption

[cerulean pewter]

[obtuse totem]

i got sent to another dimension with that hit

[cosmic wagon]

@charred ridge

[molten bramble]

If I buy a large or huge idol prophecies do those drop other classes' idols? Or do I need to buy the prophecies on the class who's idols I want?

[charred ridge]

grats

[molten bramble]

not gonna lie it is nice but a 140 12% mana probably does same dps.

[obtuse totem]

oshit i got a red ring and didnt even notice

[timid nexus]

I want to have that problem too

[obtuse totem]

i mean ive been grinding ring prophecies mindleslly for a bit, just didnt notice one dropped because i check when I get near full

[vapid belfry]

crit?

[grim field]

for warlock is there a way to cap my hp at 50% like lich does?

[abstract summit]

Well in the big giga last max version you lose a proc because of that but if you don't break a threshold in your own current setup it is free

[charred ridge]

oh

[obtuse quest]

No

[charred ridge]

you mean like a chaos bolt?

there's no threshold for that

if you have like 2199 mana you're shooting 21 bolts and 99% chance to shoot another one

[abstract summit]

Oh

I only counted whole numbers XD

[charred ridge]

yeah no need to worry about that

[grim field]

chaos bolt gives to much hp sustain keeps turning off my low life buffs lol

[abstract summit]

Deadly also takes fractions?

[lost gale]

no but you can do a reasonable imitation with low life items and taking the anti-leech nodes from the lich passive tree

[charred ridge]

good question

i guess it doesnt

actually

it should

like the description acts like it doesn't

[grim field]

ya already did that but my chaos bolt gives to much hp back per hit lol

[charred ridge]

but similar things in the game do

like BBC says "get x% void pen per 5 dex"

[abstract summit]

Ye I mean im not gonna say no to free frailty lol

[charred ridge]

but if you go from 120 to 124 dex you still gain void pen

so im assuming deadly plot works the same way

[obtuse quest]

Exsang/Twisted heart it lmao

[old hull]

Only things that don't do that explicitly say they round, like Aaron's will

[grim field]

currently have exsang on just waiting for lvl req for twisted lol

[charred ridge]

it also means the rune dagger setup gets blind for free

but i feel like rune dagger setup is kinda hard to achieve

[abstract summit]

You think i dont have frailty and blind already on my lp3 traitor lmao

[charred ridge]

😂

[abstract summit]

We have rune dagger at home

[charred ridge]

my mapping setup comfortable facetanks uber now except the big slam

can even stand in the purple rectangle forgot the name

i dont think my ES VK was able to facetank that

but maybe im wrong

[abstract summit]

It was very touch and go

I tried a lot lol

[rapid bobcat]

Does mana flay really have such high gear reqs?

[abstract summit]

Then rerolled to judgement

[charred ridge]

no

i mean it's subjective

you can look at my gear and tell me

[rapid bobcat]

What to run in offhand? that dagger is crazy on volcas build

[abstract summit]

Weapons, boots, 400 mana kinda

[charred ridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjVOOOPB

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,237, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,850.54, Regen: 20.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 117%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 6 Dex / 46 Int / 6 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 61% / 61% / 61% / 80% / 6% / 53% / 13%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 778
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (960)

Used skills:

Flay / Harvest / Marrow Shards / Reaper Form / Chaos Bolts

[charred ridge]

thats what i had yesterday

that kills uber in 40 seconds

with marrow shards bug

otherwise 1m10s

to me that gear is budget but

iuno again, that's subjective

[rapid bobcat]

TY this is helpful

I wouldnt say budget, but its def not as crazy as the planner on max roll

seems doable earlier, ill swap once i get the axe and some more mana idols

[charred ridge]

you just kinda have to know what you're doing cus this setup is kinda squishy but like if you do it right then there is nothing to dodge

https://youtu.be/BV3DWS4N-ec

this one is 50s cus i just took my first try and uploaded it but u can do it faster

[charred ridge]

it's doable earlier for sure but probably not that easy either?

the point is to have enough dmg to skip its mechanics cause i'm not tanky enough in that setup to take hits

so if you're just a little bit short on dmg it can make the fight a lot harder

[abstract summit]

Just to double check flay procs julra right?

[amber oxide]

Does Reaper Form benefit from "while transformed" affixes?

[charred ridge]

ya

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[abstract summit]

Ye I basically have this setup now might give it a go tonight

[charred ridge]

without marrow shards?

[abstract summit]

Except your gloves

That's f disgusting

[charred ridge]

they're not that good

single exalted t7 mana is better

ngl

it's just what i had

they do look really fancy tho

the sealed t4 😂

[abstract summit]

I will prob try wo shard, realize once again im washed up and ild then spec it

[charred ridge]

ya prob

ngl it's not that easy without mshards on budget

[rapid bobcat]

whats the marrow shard bug atm?

im a bit ool

doesn't work?

[charred ridge]

nah opposite

it does 100x its normal dmg

it's a few bugs working together behind the scenes it's a bit convoluted

[rapid bobcat]

oh lol

[charred ridge]

but you don't have to do anything special

just need the army of skin (flay boots) equipped or you dont get one of the bugs

if you optimize around the bug it literally one shots uber

so it's a bit silly

my advice also is dont underestimate mana like

it's a huge damage increase

if your damage is almost there but not quite, finding even just 100 mana can make quite a difference

and a lot of mana can be found in idols

[brittle urchin]

i got this now thanks

[brisk elk]

I wasted so much money last night trying to get a good belt man

Didn't get shit

Like 3-4 mil probably

I might just sell my belt lol

Can probably get at least 10 mill for it

I have a sentinel chestpiece with 30% mana, t5 flat mana and a t7 suffix but it has yet to proc anything similar on imprint

I don't know how that works exactly

Is it more likely to proc a similar itemif you're playing as a sentinel?

[hasty monolith]

then while farming that, would it be better to swap to theese 2 over the dagger and the relic?

[charred ridge]

got my 77 boot imprint on the last tower i was planning to farm

nice

[brisk elk]

Do you know how imprints work or I gotta ask somewhere else

Idk whether I need to reroll sentinel to get sentinel pieces to drop

[pearl snow]

I thought imprints would just attempt to roll the affixes on a similar base not really the specific item unless its unique

[brisk elk]

Yeah but idk if it's like

Less likely to give sentinel bases to an acolyte

Or something

It has to be sentinel or rogue to have %mana

[cerulean pewter]

not quite sure sorry, ur current dagger gives a lot of flat which is what you need

[amber oxide]

Is there a good way to add a loot filter rule that does the following:

Item Type: Ring
T6 Affix of Any Type
AND
Only has 1 Prefix

I want to be able to pick up T6/7 rings that don't have a prefix slot filled out to use with havoc runes to get something like T7 dex on a ring to imprint

[cerulean pewter]

and dont think that relic will do much for you with ur current idols

[hasty monolith]

just wondering if its worth getting the t7 melee attack speed

[brisk elk]

No

If you do less damage with more attack speed you just burn mana faster

Only use traitors if you need the crit otherwise it's worse

[pearl snow]

Affix count rule

[brisk elk]

I guess I gotta do research on imprints elsewhere

Glad I'm not COF I would be losing it

[charred ridge]

yes

well

no

i read that wrong

it's possible for an imprint to become a piece for another class

but just be warned, i did 30 troves and my body armor only went from acolyte to primalist twice

[brisk elk]

Specifically if I imprint a sentinel piece and want a near exact copy, is it better to be a sentinel

[charred ridge]

yes

[brisk elk]

I already have the sentinel chestpiece

[charred ridge]

oh

then yes

it'll be ez farm

[brisk elk]

Ok cool ty

[obtuse totem]

Cant you also just farm the woven echo that drops sentinel gear

to get a piece

[brisk elk]

No I already have my 7/7 sentinel chest

I want more like it to drop from imprints

[clear kernel]

So I have 2 exalted items one with 60 melee cold damage, and 19% increased attack speed, and 2 other sh!t affixes. I have another with 45 cold damage, and 22 increased attack, but has chance to apply frailty, and 11 melee necrotic damage. Which should I slam on my 2 LP dagger?

[charred ridge]

idk how long it'd take to get 77 that way

it's probably not particularly good

[obtuse totem]

i just mean to get the initial piece

then imprint it

[brisk elk]

I had a feeling being an acolyte was converting my imprint procs to acolyte chests

Which ruins them

Lol

[charred ridge]

nope

[brisk elk]

Ok cool

[charred ridge]

i mean maybe but i doubt it

highly doubt it

[brisk elk]

Yeah it's like t7 mana t7 armor and t5 flat mana but I ran out of FP trying to havoc it

So I need more

[charred ridge]

you kept an imprint that wasnt 0 fp right?

[brisk elk]

I believe so

Does the current fp matter?

[charred ridge]

yes

[brisk elk]

I'll have to check when I get home maybe i ruined it

[charred ridge]

but it can always go up

[brisk elk]

💀

[charred ridge]

it'll waste some time tho

but you can save it still

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BevLkVP3qn0JB2by7bpon_VZUQyjt1dJNlTfcGJ0xHI

[brisk elk]

Ty for help

[charred ridge]

i wrote an imprinting guide

WiP i guess

but you might learn a thing or two still

[brisk elk]

Much appreciated

[jagged marten]

@charred ridge your mapping vs bossing setup is mostly a passive change up right? Like the gear doesnt change much from what I briefly looked at

[charred ridge]

yeah

you can inspect my character right now

im in my mapping setup

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Noobzor

that also kills uber in like 2 mins facetanking everything

eventually with more gear i'll have a setup that maps & bosses at the same time without changing anything except for rings

maybe not even rings

[verbal belfry]

So I managed to luck out enough on the turtle to hit this. Are either of these exalts good enough to put on it or should I wait for something better?

My current one for reference

[charred ridge]

wtf is that dagger

[verbal belfry]

ikr?

[charred ridge]

depends what build you're playing and how long you're planning to play the game

[verbal belfry]

I'm flay lich

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/harvest-lich-guide#passives-header

[charred ridge]

if you're trying to sweat it out i would absolutely wait for something actually good

[verbal belfry]

This one

[charred ridge]

if you're more casual you can do with less

but at the very least get a t7 affix on there lol

[verbal belfry]

Somewhere in the middle probably?

I feel like I havent seen a single T7 affix in 60 hrs; do I need to do something special to get them?

[charred ridge]

just look at their aspirational planner

are you CoF or MG?

basically just slam this

[verbal belfry]

CoF

[jagged marten]

do you just swap the passives and Stardials for Uber I guess? Red rings for mapping?

[charred ridge]

the melee aspd can be t5 if you're not sweating, otherwise go for t7

but double t7 is a sweat thing

[charred ridge]

swapping passives is really like the worst thing ever tbqh

[jagged marten]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ my current setup but trying to farm idols for the most part right now lol

[jagged marten]

yeah its annoying

[charred ridge]

what rank? t7 will become easier to get later on

definitely wait it out, slamming a t6 is such a waste

the very least on a 4lp is a t7

[verbal belfry]

rank 9, halfway to 10

Should I be running exalted dagger prophecies then?

[charred ridge]

so yeah just planning to swap stardial at most but i reckon like if ur decked out in double t7s that wont even be necessary

[verbal belfry]

and are either of these exalted daggers worth imprinting

[charred ridge]

on my timerot VK i was swapping 1 ring basically so it only took 1 click

[charred ridge]

thats not a planner btw

[charred ridge]

nah cus the imprint won't let the t6 go up to a t7

if you imprint a t7 you'll get more t7s

[verbal belfry]

ngl these look kinda almost identical besides the AS line and the melee cold damage being T6 instead of T7

[jagged marten]

lol woops https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy5Kj02o

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (26) / Lich (66) / Warlock (18)

General:

▸ Health: 2,315, Regen: 22.58/s
▸ Mana: 1,199.51, Regen: 20.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 191%, Regen: 33/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 55 Int / 4 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 107% / 106% / 75% / 31% / 112% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 820
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,932)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Marrow Shards / Harvest / Reaper Form / Chaos Bolts / Flay

[verbal belfry]

When are you supposed to imprint an exalted? Just one with a T7 affix you want?

[charred ridge]

"they look identical except for their differences"

^might sound like im a jackass but

[verbal belfry]

lmao

[charred ridge]

im really just trying to say these differences do matter lol

[verbal belfry]

I guess maybe I'm underestimating how big a diff that is

[charred ridge]

18 flat is a lot

and idk about the crit vs aspd specifically but im kinda assuming you have so much crit in other places that you don't need this affix and it actually doesnt do anything

[verbal belfry]

How likely am I to get another 4 LP dagger before I hit the uber exalt dagger?

[charred ridge]

zero percent

[verbal belfry]

Like is this a once in a lifetime kinda roll?

[charred ridge]

let me take a good look at the LPL on that dagger before i make a statement

[verbal belfry]

1 in 5.3k for 4LP

[jagged marten]

slim chance lol

[charred ridge]

yeah not quite once in a lifetime

maybe twice or thrice in a lifetime

i would not expect to see another one this season or the next or the next

especially not with the rolls you got

[verbal belfry]

ight lol

[jagged marten]

i think its actually easier to do the T8 dagger once you get the base with the T7 roll

[verbal belfry]

yeah the rolls are pretty nasty

[charred ridge]

well tbf the implicit is kinda meh

[charred ridge]

he's running harvest so idk if it's an option

i know nothing about that build

[jagged marten]

oh okay, maybe not

[charred ridge]

honestly if im being honest the lowroll implicit (crit multi) kinda ruins the dagger so

it's kinda like a highroll 3lp

which is still very very good

[verbal belfry]

49 on a 35% to 65% isnt that bad right?

[charred ridge]

i see 36

[verbal belfry]

oh

I was looking at the wrong dagger

[charred ridge]

man's got two 4lp daggers

😂

[verbal belfry]

lol

yeah wow 36% is tough

[charred ridge]

yeah but 4th lp compensates

[brisk elk]

Even with a perfect TT, the rune dagger is more damage

It just makes it harder to cap crit

[charred ridge]

for harvest?

[brisk elk]

Oh mb

Lol

I thought we were talking about mana

[charred ridge]

yep diff build

but yeah just try to get closer to their dagger before slamming, you'll find plenty t7s soon

[verbal belfry]

Harvest Flay lich is solid enough for endgame right?

[charred ridge]

yeah

[brisk elk]

For harvest you probably just want to use velocyns jaw right

[charred ridge]

it's solid

[brisk elk]

For ur primordial

[verbal belfry]

I know mana is better but still

[verbal belfry]

ya

[charred ridge]

i dont know how much harder you'll have to work for uber

[verbal belfry]

still farming my Core of the Mountain and Orobyss belt

[brisk elk]

Actually I think melee is probably better for pushing corruption due to defenses

As long as you can get the damage

[charred ridge]

but im sure it's a very reasonable build