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[past charm]

I c

[pearl snow]

You spam flay and based off your mana it casts cb

Its give and take

[wild anvil]

Executioners tithe i believe

[past charm]

Any build to follow to share maybe wanna give it a try

[pearl snow]

But there are plenty of variants

There might be somewhere. I havent seen a proper written guide

[past charm]

Ok ok

[pearl snow]

Mines still WiP because im doing ailment first

[past charm]

Tu for the answers

Ty

[pearl snow]

But in general just stack Mana, pickup Tithe and a dagger (traitors tongue) is a great easy starting one

Go h

Go ham

Last epoch tools has a ladder too

You can follow real characters

[wild anvil]

good to know

was hoping to find a poeninja analogue

half of my poe builds are a little yoink here and a little yoink there from other people lmao

[crisp ridge]

what is pob? saw someone say some app i say is a recreation of it.

[versed fox]

it's a combat simulator

it runs your "dps"

[crisp ridge]

it seemed rly nice, but ir crashed first time i tried to use it 😭

[pearl snow]

Path of Building. Its for poe but yeah its a build planner application

someone tried making a last epoch version but I dont think it got far

we have like negative dps calcs in the game

[midnight juniper]

Someone killed Uber Aberroth with harvest/flay without mana stacking?

[abstract summit]

you can but it's gonna require you actually playing the fight

[crisp ridge]

it seemed to be decent, but i have no comparison point

[pearl snow]

probably not. The only way you generate harvest on flay cast is with mana stacking

[abstract summit]

Volca's version seemed to be around 1.5M uber DPS, it has like what, 350M HP? Im sure you can pump it up into the 3-5M threshold at the expense of defenses but that's still not gonna be one shot

[vernal gorge]

What's the best way to stack a shit ton of both spell damage and bleed stacks? They don't have to be powerful, just plentiful.

[pearl snow]

why both whats the build idea

[violet forge]

Malatros removes the necrotic tag in the fissure?

[vernal gorge]

Blood tether scales 1% more off every stack of bleed

[pearl snow]

Ah tether setup

[abstract summit]

you put on new gloves and hit 150 times a second with mana stack flay...
...
it's just at that point why wouldnt you simply play crit 😄

[pearl snow]

Necrotic has lots of flat spell. Otherwise just stack spell dmg on weapons and a mix of prefixes with % DoT and intelligence

[pearl snow]

it shouldnt

[vapid belfry]

mana flay lich might be a bit overtuned

[vernal gorge]

I'm mostly asking about skill setup for maximizing bleed stacks.

[abstract summit]

enjoy while it lasts

[pearl snow]

Use CB prob. Bone Curse has a bleed on hit node

Flay has bleed on hit. Army of skin with this will auto cast bood

[abstract summit]

they need to fix whatever is going on with amrrow shard tho, that's a tad too much

[vapid belfry]

i feel like a fool for even playing the harvest var first

[charred ridge]

we already on a 35s uber without marrow shards

marrow shards is just extra memes lmao

they never fixed any of the 3 timerot bugs even 1 season later so...

i don't think fixing gameplay bugs is EHG's priority somehow 🤷‍♀️

[vernal gorge]

What's the setup here?

[charred ridge]

stack mana

[vernal gorge]

If they spent all their time fixing bugs, they would produce a shitty season with no content. It's always a difficult balance to prioritize.

[abstract summit]

i kinda wanna find out which interaction is bugged exactly

but then again im not being paid to software test their game, and im on a holiday even from my usual gig lol

[charred ridge]

im not blaming them (i kind of am)

i mean i understand but like if a bug touches actual gameplay i think it should be fixed

especially bugs like "lol this node does literally nothing"

[abstract summit]

make sure to report it in the ingame tool tho so it gets visibility

[charred ridge]

feels terrible to invest points or time farming items just to find out it doesn't work and your build is bricked

[abstract summit]

"yo i dont know whats going on with marrow shard triggered from flay but we can all agree it shouldnt delete the dummy in 3 seconds right? look into it, thx pl0x" 😄

[vapid kindle]

they also put themselves in a pretty big hole with bug debt from the early days of LE and are trying to dig out of that while also doing the seasonal model

[charred ridge]

imagine if the "more dmg per max mana" node in flay didn't work

patch would've gone from "most fun I've ever had in LE" to huge flop for me

[vapid kindle]

shield rush mana refund at high attack speed still not fixed after uhh how long? btw

[charred ridge]

there's passives in warlock i don't dabble with cause idk if they're still broken or not lmao

[vapid belfry]

which ones?

[charred ridge]

the more dmg per ailment on you (i think that's been fixed but not sure)

and if you have too much cast speed you stop gaining the spirit plague buffs

[hot ginkgo]

aight im done making it longer

[hollow flint]

Pinochio is that you?

[drifting idol]

does frost lich work out now?

[charred ridge]

that cursor is kinda cool actually

[pearl snow]

Frost / Cold lich is viable yeah

[hot ginkgo]

microsoft powertoy is nice

[wild anvil]

I originally tried frostbite but immediately had to pivot once I got snowdrift + freeze multi running and realized the pen also applies to your own self-applied aura's frostbite

was dying myself

(with cold lich)

Now I'm in some weird middle ground of drain ward non-corrupted form and crit harvest

[drifting idol]

not sure if i want to try lich again lmao

[wild anvil]

tbf the corrupted form version seems strong im just stubborn

[brittle urchin]

how the end game here has level 30 harvest and level 30 flay ? and he removed his armour which had +2 to flay

[wild anvil]

daggers

[pearl snow]

Daggers amulet and relic

[brittle urchin]

yeah but

should be 29 not 30

[wild anvil]

ammy seems overkill to me but i havent tried it

[pearl snow]

check the gloves I forget what they do

[wild anvil]

afaik just using the gloves for ias

[brittle urchin]

i have the same but my other dagger is + 3 not + 4 but the total levels for me is

less than him by 2 not by 1

[wild anvil]

ammy can roll 1-2

[brittle urchin]

maybe because i have intelegent + 1 not + 2 ? but i have dexitery + 2 on it

whatever meh

[wild anvil]

yeah

if youre not +2 +2 on the traitor's then youre missing it there

[brittle urchin]

alright thanks for info will try to find another one later no gold now

hardly got this gear with no lp

very expensive and belt is very expensive too

[crisp ridge]

mg 🤢

[wintry flame]

did not bother, so far

[vapid belfry]

i mean its either that or nihilis, which both give +2

[vapid belfry]

tbf you can just imprint them

[brittle urchin]

i put them now on the imprint but no find them maybe am just noob here idk how to farm or strategy whatever i try to figure out

[tiny sandal]

Are skeletons suppose to die reeealy fast on the start of the game?
Like I am level 28 and someones I summon skeleton and they die without even fighting a single monster, wtf...?

oh... its the bone golem consuming skeletons

[jagged marten]

@charred ridge Been working on the lich with some of your input and I gotta agree, this is one of the most fun builds ive played in LE. not even at 300 corruption yet, but its a blast to map with

[vernal gorge]

One other insight on blood tether: its 25% health leech is a "more" multiplier when combined with the 11 point leech damages enemies node in lich

[stone vault]

Does anyone know why ABOMINATION DEAD EYE and Horrific Volley dont have CDR enabled for minions or skill tree, but still takes 5% hp dmg on use with the CDR Node?!?!?!?

[charred ridge]

yeee they really gotta not nerf that too hard it's honestly one of the rare builds im down to play for multiple seasons lol

[old hull]

Sounds like a bug

[jagged marten]

agree, really hope they dont touch it. It doesnt feel overly strong with lower end gear, like if I dont seal right or something I can definitely get cracked, unlike sentinel that felt invincible naked basically

[lime widget]

how does the "can't have above half hp" and the "can't leach above 66%" work?

does it just make it so that the latter never turns off or does it make it so you can't leach above 66% of your new 50% max?

[haughty shard]

yeah, same for me

[little wigeon]

You are always leeching since you never hit 66% hp

[lime widget]

Also how does that "can't have above half hp" work with missing health?

[little wigeon]

It counts as always missing at least 50% hp

[haughty shard]

i got this node, its starts dying, i removed it, but it still works(just health losing) and now if i get this node again it will lose more health 👍

[stone vault]

Why are devs allergic to clarifying abilities zzzzzzz

[charred ridge]

never play ffxiv

[stone vault]

like why is everything a guessing game and you hope you're right like wtf

[topaz knot]

Y

[wild anvil]

Do "when a hit taken leaves you below half health" effects apply if the hit damage is taken from ward?

[charred ridge]

square enix is OMEGA allergic to ability descriptions lmao

all skill tooltips are just "do X damage"

[sweet spade]

@charred ridge I'm trying to figure out how to make the build more tanky. The low life variant gets sketchy when reaper drops. So I'm thinking of switching to yours.

But yours i need to also press reap, whereas the misha version i just basically hold down flay

Also farming for the traversal ward boots going to be annoying

[pearl snow]

The hit has to touch your actual health so no

[tender ridge]

it didn't used to

[wild anvil]

figured, ty

[topaz knot]

Oh..the nebulous100 potency

[tender ridge]

in 1.2 as long as you were below half and were hit, you'd trigger it even if it hit your ward

[charred ridge]

yep lmao

[topaz knot]

I kinda prefer it tbh. Makes comparisons easier

[charred ridge]

i don't mind it but it's just funny

[topaz knot]

But that only.works cuz it's an mmo

[pearl snow]

Then maybe it needs to be tested then. I was sure it didnt in 1.2

[charred ridge]

it only works because it's gcd system and you can play with your eyes closed you mean

[topaz knot]

The biggest issue with ffxiv is the classes are baby easy. Luckily that allows the fights to be more complex

But yeah

Only game to have 25 buttons for 20 of them to only be pressed every 2 minutes

[charred ridge]

skill animations don't actually mean anything in gcd games that's why im not a huge fan of mainstream pve MMOs

[topaz knot]

And 5 buttons the rest of the time

[charred ridge]

i mean wow is similar

[tender ridge]

i'm mostly not a fan of how the vast majority of modern MMOs still follow the vertical progression established with EQ/WoW

[topaz knot]

Wym they don't mean anything. When do they ever mean anything?

[tender ridge]

gimme more horizontal progression like OSRS has

[charred ridge]

your rotation is always 3 buttons but somehow you need 50 keybinds

[topaz knot]

Gw2 has horizontal

[charred ridge]

action combat MMOs are based around animations

like animation lock, animation canceling

[tender ridge]

i haven't played GW2 since around launch, but it was definitely vertical back then. ilvl grind is omnipresent

[charred ridge]

animation length is super important even with just how the gameplay feels

[topaz knot]

By actuon mmo do u mean like BDO or Gw2?

[charred ridge]

BDO i guess

[topaz knot]

Like the dodge roll + 4 abilities type mmo

[charred ridge]

i played TERA the most

[topaz knot]

I haven't played tera. Idk what its like

[charred ridge]

it's not a 4 buttons game tho I'll tell you that

[tender ridge]

i do miss wildstar tho. game had great combat

TERA was okay. I played gunner for a while

[charred ridge]

you have a dodge roll and your rotation is like 10 buttons and everything has a cooldown

[tender ridge]

I don't remember TERA having an autoattack either right?

[charred ridge]

the gameplay is tied to rotation complexity more and less about hard boss mechanics though there are exceptions

[charred ridge]

all classes have an AA but most of them unbind it

[topaz knot]

Yeah, imo there's two ways to do mmo, and it's either wow/ffxiv style, with every ability available at all times. No dodge roll. Meta = keep everything off cd. Keep gcd rolling.

Or BDO/gw2/LostArk dodge roll + 4-5 buttons to pick from. Cant use all skills at once. Meta = timing skills and dodging. Not keeping the gcd rolling because animation lock might kill u

[charred ridge]

mostly lancer uses AA to skate (block cancel your auto to move faster)

[topaz knot]

Oh gosh that reminds me of the third type i forgot

The ESO style

With animation cancels. Having to click to auto attack

[charred ridge]

wow and xiv pve are just boring to me but im a big fan of wow pvp

[topaz knot]

Ugh it sucked. For me atleast

[charred ridge]

too bad blizzard hates wow pvp

[topaz knot]

Xiv pvp isn't bad since it got reworked

Its very dif from wow tho

It's like 5 buttons. You don't get ur whole rotation

[charred ridge]

i dont think i will try it but i can believe that

isnt xiv very battleground centric

[topaz knot]

Nah, the only competitive pvp mode is a 5v5 with a tft style game mode where u had to escort the payload. But like whoever is one the pay load moves it toward enemy base

No defending or attacking turns

[charred ridge]

oh ok

[topaz knot]

Uh not tft

Whats it called

[charred ridge]

league?

[kind forge]

hmmmm those new boots are goog

[topaz knot]

Has a spy

Medic

[kind forge]

its like every harvest is now a grim harvest

[topaz knot]

Scout

Heavy

[charred ridge]

no clue rofl

[kind forge]

not really so they can both stack but ye

[topaz knot]

Tf2

!

Team fortress 2

[charred ridge]

oh

[topaz knot]

It's that style. But not first person.

[charred ridge]

i kinda hate games with a low amount of buttons tbh

[topaz knot]

Yeah the pvp is def low amount of buttons

[steel hull]

i need a tanky high damage lich build XD lol

[lime widget]

Make them all like DMC

[topaz knot]

It's somewhere between 10-15 buttons total

Depending on class

[charred ridge]

my main complaint with lost ark aside of being a press G simulator was that there were so many interesting abilities but you could only use like what was it, 5?

[topaz knot]

Yeah that's the gw2/bdo style

[charred ridge]

i feel like the game would've been so incredibly more interesting if you could use 8

or 10

[topaz knot]

Prioritize dodge rolls and timing > spamming ur gcd

Some ppl like it but eh

[charred ridge]

i mean

it's not gcd

[lime widget]

Even V has like 15 buttons with Dante and Nero being higher still

[charred ridge]

and you can have both

[topaz knot]

You basically sacrifice 20+ abilities for a dodge roll

Can't have both

[charred ridge]

you literally can

that's TERA

[topaz knot]

I mean you can

But idk if ppl like it

Tera isn't doing well

I never played it so I cant say if its good or not

But unfortunately a lot of ppl aren't playing it

[charred ridge]

ya cus krafton

see EHG in 5 years kappa

[topaz knot]

I thought it was DOA when krafton aquired it

[charred ridge]

DOA?

[topaz knot]

Dead on arrival

Like already donezo

[lime widget]

Dead on arrival

[charred ridge]

oh

i mean

it was always krafton

they were just called bluehole studio before they rebranded

[topaz knot]

Like they didn't kill it. They just didn't save it

Is what i heard

[charred ridge]

yeah you can say that

[topaz knot]

Oh I didn't know they always had it

[kind forge]

tera was peak

[charred ridge]

i mean it's hard to tell why TERA died

a popular take is that 99% of ppl had a skill issue

cause the gameplay was certainly not beginner friendly

[topaz knot]

Story of every mmo

[kind forge]

honestly tho ... i spent most of my time in tera glitching through invisible walls to places they quaranteened off and teleporting people there with preist party warp

[charred ridge]

it was definitely a "extremely fun but only if ur good" kind of game

[topaz knot]

They should sell it to FS

[charred ridge]

dps of an experienced player was like 20 times the dps of a beginner with the same gear

[topaz knot]

And market it as "darksouls of mmos"

Instant success

[charred ridge]

lol

mood

TERA had a great empty open world

it was beautiful but also meaningless

[charred ridge]

it had too many buttons to be dark souls

but ya

[charred ridge]

meanwhile wow is implementing 1 button rotations

doing 80% of optimal dmg

and game is doing well

[kind forge]

hey i single handedly set the arena for a guild v guild battle once by teleporting everyone to baldera

there is a big area over there that has litterally nothing

[charred ridge]

Baldera had a bunch of stuff on menma tera

[kind forge]

ye i dont know why it didnt exist

cuz it was an old beta zone i think

[steel hull]

i need a tanky high damage lich build XD lol does one of these exist?

[charred ridge]

i think it was just placeholder for a future xpac

[kind forge]

like the town existed

[charred ridge]

but you know

[kind forge]

and the woods connecting to the earlygame zone existed

but it was walled off with no mobs

and everything behind the town was just empty space as giant flat land

[charred ridge]

i don't think it was used in beta though i mean isn't it next to highwatch

[calm dome]

Abom+T rex are making stuff a breeze rn. Idk why people complained about Abom

[charred ridge]

highwatch wasn't even a thing til 65 patch

[kind forge]

nope its still in the very first continent

[charred ridge]

oh ok mb

[kind forge]

its like directly connected to the lvl 10ish area

[charred ridge]

ya you right

[kind forge]

but locked off by invis walls

[charred ridge]

what server were you playing on

i mean i probably don't know you but ya

[kind forge]

before they added flying mounts you could go over the mountain and get in there ... then they raised the walls

[calm dome]

I went with Eternal arrow abom rn and it seems fine. Just got into monos with only necrotic and phyical res capped but I am breezing through

[kind forge]

NA

[charred ridge]

your pfp checks out with tera players tho that's for sure

ya but which server

[kind forge]

LOL

[kind forge]

i forget lel its been like almost 10 years

[charred ridge]

bet it's celestial hills

[kind forge]

i dont remember if it was a pvp server or not cuz i used to play pve on pvp server for the memes

[charred ridge]

a lot of ppl did

[kind forge]

and that was back when you werent protected before lvl 60

[charred ridge]

i think even on half of 65 patches you weren't protected

that came really late

[kind forge]

ye

[charred ridge]

i was pking lowbie ninjas on class release cus that class was cringe

so ya

[kind forge]

you will never catch me if i was on ninja

[charred ridge]

had to make them quit the game before they made it to endgame yknow

[fossil basin]

can someone please explain, does cold harvest stack with necrotic damage affixes? or should i use only cold affixes? looking for idols and there is only Necrotic Damage while Transformed and phys and no cold

[kind forge]

i still love that one of the skills was litterally just cosmetic and nothing else lol ... and it wasnt even convincing

[latent moss]

what to combo sacrifice with to keep having vessels to explode?

[little wigeon]

You would want cold affixes, not necrotic

[lime widget]

Try going frostbite so you can use DoT affixes

[little wigeon]

For idols can always go defensive with hp/ward/res etc. Also throne of ambition unique idol

[kind forge]

ele dot affix owo

biggest advantage over bleed xD

[latent moss]

is sacrifice just really difficult to get online spell?

[abstract summit]

retail enhance says hello

[radiant vessel]

Feels like that's always been shaman in WoW, so many binds for shit you are just not pressing

[abstract summit]

well now you are pressing them and do no damage 😄

[kind forge]

wonder how good it would be to go with the old harvest setup with deaths embrace ... and then throw on the new boots ... and just use them both

grim harvest gonna be screen wide

kek

[abstract summit]

i dunno about tanky but we have damage aplenty

[charred ridge]

@abstract summit actually in terms of defensive chests so no valeroot

what about wall of nothing

[abstract summit]

ye my top 3 are pale, woven or wall probably

i really like the MS and the STR on pale

[charred ridge]

ya but minions

[abstract summit]

i like big armor and i cannot lie

ya but you are summoning them on auto with iron skin

[charred ridge]

what's iron skin

[abstract summit]

the boots lol

[charred ridge]

that's what they called?

[abstract summit]

think so? 😄

clsoe 😄

army of skin

[charred ridge]

does pale ox actually have good uptime though

[kind forge]

ye

[charred ridge]

feel like it wouldn't

but ok

[kind forge]

army of skin is constantly spawning skeles

[abstract summit]

it would be okay, ish, but as i said MS + STR + health% already sells it for me

the DR just gravy

[charred ridge]

i mean i guess if it's 100% uptime then it's just good

[abstract summit]

if you do it for the DR then dont do it ye 😄

i can see wall too but need a 2LP

i def want health % on my mapping chest

[charred ridge]

i didn't even know ox had 18% hp

i mean I'm telling you bro

the line says minion, i don't read it

[abstract summit]

ye it has some sneaky good stats if you continue reading it's just everybody stops at the minion damage redirect kek

exactly 😄

[charred ridge]

no i read past it but the hp line also says minion

"18% hp for you and your minions"

[abstract summit]

im surprised tho you werent immediately drawn to it just for the move speed alone

[charred ridge]

tbf

exsang has 30% ms

technically

[abstract summit]

well

i think 20% draing might be a tad too much

5% is okay, 10 maaybe?

[charred ridge]

I'll try exsang cause it's both offensive and defensive

[kind forge]

your leech will cover it

[charred ridge]

30% aspd is aite

[abstract summit]

it's more about while you are moving when mapping

[charred ridge]

dunno how it compares to valeroot's 80 mana

[kind forge]

ye it should be fine

[charred ridge]

might be better

[abstract summit]

you know im a boomer, i look at loot and stuff 😄 if you zoom zoom ye it's prob fine

[charred ridge]

80 mana is a t6 affix, 30% aspd is a t7

[abstract summit]

you know what else could be lowkey a lotta damage?

ah no nm, poe brain for a second 😄

[charred ridge]

woven flash?

[abstract summit]

forget shock here is just for lightning lol

[charred ridge]

I'm also thinking woven flesh and go scornful

maybe scorn isn't that bad

then you are also crit immune

so many good chest options for this build, it's rare

[abstract summit]

ye before a 2LP mapping tithe defo

[charred ridge]

usually it's just titan heart or null portent

[abstract summit]

i will just put blind on my second affix later

[charred ridge]

ew

i would do it if i had 5lp

[abstract summit]

not saying for bossing but for mapping 😄

[charred ridge]

or 3lp + 4lp

shred is kinda useless for maps

[abstract summit]

but ye tbh whatever you get a high LP good roll from you pop it on

[charred ridge]

but weapon swapping is a bit aids

[abstract summit]

bro is swapping two rings and a chest but draws the line at a weapon

[charred ridge]

I'm not swapping chest

[abstract summit]

you arent mapping in a valeroot

[charred ridge]

and i usually only swap 1 ring cus the 2nd one you have to drag

i am mapping with valeroot

lmao

[abstract summit]

well, maybe you shouldnt!!

[charred ridge]

first thing I'll try if i remember will be scornful woven flesh

if the non leech sustain is enough

[abstract summit]

not at my mana fo sho but you have a lot more and move faster so could be

Bwz is using that but with leech and corrupted, he seems happy with it

[charred ridge]

yeah it prob won't work but if it does well that's pog

[abstract summit]

tbh the boots affix really does a lotta heavy lifting lol

[charred ridge]

i wouldn't use flesh without scornful cus it has no offensive stats and that's cringe

yeah i figured it wound

would

[abstract summit]

you just kinda need to learn to live on the edge and play at low mana

[charred ridge]

i mean i already had it in mind in 1.1 mana stacking static orb and 1.2 ES VK

but VK didn't need the ward so i just went double movespeed

and i think i just couldn't hit a slam in 1.1 lmao and you couldn't get t7 experimental anyway

like it had to drop natty from an exiled mage with worse CoF bonuses

so it was just unrealistic to get more than t5 and u really want this affix at t7

lich is perfect for this affix cus it actually needs the ward and movespeed loss is compensated by flay

[abstract summit]

ye you rly dont feel the MS

i will prob slam int second

[charred ridge]

too far for me

[abstract summit]

the crazy part is i still only have a grand total of one T6 flat on my two weapons combined, 430 mana, and 200 is still totally fine 😄

[charred ridge]

im definitely getting 30% ms, im still sad about losing another 18% but im ok with it

lol

[abstract summit]

i dont care how much damage bugshards are doing tho, im never letting go of my seal

so good

delayed damage, armor, bone armor

[charred ridge]

I'll play with shards a bit but i like seal a lot for maps

it's just impossible to die with it you know

[abstract summit]

like okay it's only 4/13 uptime but yo, you get another 4s bone armor too

[charred ridge]

you're just immune to dmg

im using cdr on belt

in fact if you're not slamming ms on boots consider cdr

cause that's more traversals = more ward

and more death seals

and less reaper form downtime

[abstract summit]

kinda contested tho

belt is big HP

[charred ridge]

ye I'm fine with that

[abstract summit]

but should be easy enough to farm a 2 LP buckle or orian consdiering both have target farm wovens

[charred ridge]

if you generate ward from boots then HP doesnt scale your ward

still losing hp cus belt had healh% and hybrid

[abstract summit]

ye 1:1 is fine

brrruuuhhhhhh

[charred ridge]

yuck

getting that pale ox uptime

[abstract summit]

XD

nah i have 1LP oin the other just waiting for an exalt

[charred ridge]

gl lol

ima slam mine when i get back

i have a bunch of idol prophecies waiting to be completed

im kinda estimating 1.5mil favor for a full set of idols and i spent 500k

somehow i got 3 idols so far and 2 of them are min rolled lol

[abstract summit]

F

meanwhile my idols lol

[charred ridge]

lol

i have some of these with necro pen

they're aite

[abstract summit]

i have a hot take acolyte chat
act 10 maps are the worst designed maps in the game for echoes and should not have been added to the mono pool

whoever thought sky garden and the chain maps are good for end game needs to get off POE2

[tender ridge]

but they look so nice

[abstract summit]

ye that's cool and all, just keep em in the campaign

[tender ridge]

i prefer the chains over the imperial majelka map that makes a bigass labyrinth with the canals and broken walls

[kind forge]

ngl alot of the new maps are huge xD

[tender ridge]

you can't jump over the gaps most of the time 🙁

[abstract summit]

also, just when they were finally almost done with smoothing out the terrain features across the game for movement skills... they add these chains lmao

[kind forge]

lol

[tender ridge]

yeah true lol

[kind forge]

the chains are fine so far

for me

[fluid bane]

are there prophesies for the boss for the lightless arbor? I haven't seen a single one

[tender ridge]

I think it's honestly the same problem that PoE2 maps have. they're massive and don't have enough content to fill them out

[fluid bane]

wrong thread

[abstract summit]

sprint will solve all surely 🤡

[kind forge]

its better here because more density and our inventories are like double the size

[tender ridge]

that clown needs even more makeup

[kind forge]

so even a lack of content doesnt hurt it nearly as much as poe2 lack of content ends up hurting

but even then we still got our nemesis encounters and rift beasts and exiled mages

and champions

and variety of clear conditions

[tender ridge]

LE has a double edged sword of the echo objectives incentivizing you to speed run through them, which causes you to miss any side content that isn't in your immediate path

it gets you through maps faster for more echo rewards but you miss out on any rift beasts, nemesis, etc. that you might see if you explore everything

[kind forge]

i think LE does better job with map clear conditions than poe2 does ... poe2 should adopt the old poe1 kirac objectives as end conditions

[abstract summit]

checkpoints when XD

[kind forge]

nah we dont need it

lel

we fast

faster

[tender ridge]

on an acolyte-themed note, marrow shards is still a fun ability to cast. cold conversion has fun visuals with the ice blasts and directional freezing

[abstract summit]

i like its "destroy dummy in 3 seconds" aspect more

[tender ridge]

yeah that too

killed majasa before she could move to her coffin to heal lol

[kind forge]

i dont like casting it manually ... but flay and rip blood make it fun

wish rip blood changed its normal mob kill condition

or well

at least magic mobs cuz those can be super tanky

and not be considered rares

so it cant be casted

[tender ridge]

one thing I love and hate about LE is how many things trigger other things. you get cool interactions but at the same time a lot of skills only end up being usable if they're triggered by something else

[kind forge]

i mean there is a simple solution to that

ele nova already did it but just not good enough

make more passives give double effectiveness when they arent being triggered

[tender ridge]

and then you run into bear EQ issues if you don't add direct-cast multipliers

[tender ridge]

it should probably be the other way: make things not work when they are triggered

[kind forge]

i mean

[tender ridge]

you'd run into less power creep that way

[kind forge]

i guess but that makes it less fun

if you double the effectivness when they arent you still get the mechanics but without the power behind them

[tender ridge]

yeah but sometimes fun has to take the hit in order to keep the game's ceiling down

[kind forge]

and to be fair

[abstract summit]

and then we have rip blood which sucks either way lmao

[kind forge]

SOME things probably should be selfcast only

[tender ridge]

that's why "buff the under performers, leave the over performers where they're at" is a losing strategy in the long term

[kind forge]

but other things like mana feast which is already selfcast only is just sad

[tender ridge]

see D3 set design

[abstract summit]

tbh most of the fun is in the new builds every season

old stuff usually gets left behind

[kind forge]

mage probably got the LEAST out of this update

even the new wand just isnt good

[tender ridge]

we've only had a couple of seasons as a whole so it's hard to really say

[kind forge]

i mean its +4 levels but otherwise ye

[abstract summit]

last season sent and falconers are kinda keeping up but falconer was already a new thing

[tender ridge]

new wand is fine. it does exactly what it needs to and acts as a stat stick with +4 skills on a slot that doesn't get +4 skills often

falconer was over a year old last season tho

[kind forge]

its competing against ladle tho

compare that to the dagger tho and the dagger is kinda big

probably the biggest weapon

[abstract summit]

okay NOW i feel comfy 😄

[tender ridge]

ladle already had competition with wrongwarp

[kind forge]

out of the primal weapons

[kind forge]

they gutted wrongwarp

[tender ridge]

ladle kinda sucks if you don't have a good source of flat damage

new wand has flat damage, skill ranks, and inc damag. it's a fine itm

[kindred ginkgo]

does this node require a direct cast or do indirect casts from rip blood work?

[abstract summit]

ladle is mostly an ailment play

[kind forge]

ig

i mean its like 48% more damage and alot of cast speed

and you dont need to be an ailment build just an int stacker

[tender ridge]

yeah and 48% more when your base isn't very high doesn't help because the wand itself has like 6 spell damage

[kind forge]

true

[tender ridge]

ladle is very strong, don't get me wrong

it's just not something you want for literally everything like it used to be before it had uncapped scaling

[kind forge]

lol

[tender ridge]

it works from indirect casts

[kind forge]

uncap it again

owo

[tender ridge]

no plz i don't want my bis to always be a spoon

[kind forge]

plz for the love of warlock with its 2000 debuffs

xD

[abstract summit]

one of my all time fav is ladle lightning blast spark charge, glad it's making its return

so much cast speed 😄

giga tank with static shell

[obtuse quest]

" if you cast", most likely direct only

[tender ridge]

indirects worked previously. I used it with ghostflame

speaking of, spell-dots are on my wishlist for things to get buffed basically across the board

Torment had its time in the sun but most of them are pretty bad

[obtuse quest]

Issue: There's not much of them, and most of their problem is because it's 1 max stack/

[tender ridge]

those are just the ailments

[obtuse quest]

(Wait tf is swiftness doing here)

[obtuse quest]

Oh you're talking about spell dots in general

[tender ridge]

Ghostflame, Drain Life, Wandering Spirits, Entangling Roots, Maelstrom

Tornado

yeah

they're all pretty bad

no crit scaling so they have to find other ways to multiply their damage, which there aren't a lot of

[obtuse quest]

Wandering is... actual okay compared to the rest of that list, and I bet you there's some people here that will defend ghostflame-

[tender ridge]

Wandering is likely the strongest of them on its own for sure. Ghostflame is okay but does not hold up endgame

oh there's also cthonic fissure direct damage

[steel hull]

anyone playing rip blood lich?

[obtuse quest]

This implies rip blood is good enough as a main skill. (It isn't really.)

[abstract summit]

im on the opinion it isnt good enough even for utility

we kinda couldnt make ward generation work on it either

[tender ridge]

I called blood tether from rip blood being bad before the season started. tries to pull you in two different conflicting directions for scaling the damage

[abstract summit]

ye like that would be literally its last purpose but 1: bad 2: can be applied via other means 3: which doesnt matter cause bad

[steel hull]

so would mana flay be better? i really wanna play a reaper build

[abstract summit]

mana flay is da build

[steel hull]

i was just trying rip vlood because of volcas build guide

[tender ridge]

harvest/flay is good if you wanna just ungabunga too

[obtuse quest]

See, more than me is saying this.

[tender ridge]

or you could be a hipster like me and selfcast marrow shards

[obtuse quest]

I think rip blood is like, the most consistent way to apply it though

[abstract summit]

I guess

[steel hull]

so as a newer player and only ever played smite builds what would yall recommend to play as a lich?

[obtuse quest]

The other two sources are:
Getting hit in reaper form (lol lmao)
21% chance on hit via Soul Feast

[abstract summit]

like the best blood tether build would be stacking mana for CB procs and flat spell damage....
see where im going with this 😄

[obtuse quest]

Real

[steel hull]

ive leveled to 72 as rip blood i do HELLA DMG but im squish as fk

[tender ridge]

harvest has the least mechanical complexity to it. you build flay stacks then hold harvest down

[steel hull]

ah kk

[tender ridge]

there's no mana management or builder/spender gameplay you'd get from proc heavy builds

[abstract summit]

i feel like HELLA in all caps needs supporting evidence 😄

[devout burrow]

I feel like this could be good for something?

[kind forge]

they really need to turn that int to dex

it doesnt make sense anymore

[steel hull]

is there one that is somewhat tanky? im used to VK smiter where i literally tank EVERYTHING it doesnt have to be able to tank everything but i need something to take the hits lol as im still learning boss fights and such

[kind forge]

no

[abstract summit]

we aint no sentinel

[obtuse quest]

Lmao, you're acolyte.

[abstract summit]

but you can kill things before they touch you 😄

[obtuse quest]

We tank by leeching, mostly.

[steel hull]

ahhh

kk back to sentinel then XD lol

[obtuse quest]

(Or having copius amounts of ward)

[abstract summit]

im up to 5k now on 600 mana kekw

i think end game 10k is not an overstatement

which is kinda big from the investment of 2 points in reaper and 1 boots prefix lol

[thorn wigeon]

is the abom bug fixed yet ?

[tender ridge]

which one

[kind forge]

oh ye another mob that should be rare but isnt

the stupid lizards

killing them with just rip blood cuz they arent rare so they dont proc marrow shards is pain

[crisp nimbus]

if im looking for increased melee necro damage as an affix

would "increased necrotic damage" still benefit

[kind forge]

yes

[crisp nimbus]

sick

transitioning to mana flay

gotta imprint like 8 diff items

[kind forge]

necrotic dmg mods is alot more limited than other mods for some reason

[crisp nimbus]

i need way more mana

[kind forge]

lol

[crisp nimbus]

might have to get idol prophecies or smth

[kind forge]

wont be enough but good luck

[crisp nimbus]

wont be enough to loot the idols i need you mean?

[obtuse quest]

Because just like void, only acolyte uses it properly.

[kind forge]

void is used alot more than just sentinel because of uniques tho

honestly i think necrotic does the same but i dont remember any necrotic conversions or anything

but void had the volcanic orb one

oh ye and the timeline unique set

forget what its called but its the one that stacks that buff and no one uses it

[tender ridge]

if we're being honest, none of those uniques are scaling the void damage itself. they just happen to also deal void damage. if anyone has secondary access to void it's mage because of Lament and rahyeh's body armor

[slim mason]

Any way to lvl with poison together with ws?

hs dosent have poison tag.. next is spirit plague i guess

[kind forge]

ws?

Oh

i mean

ws has a poison conversion

[slim mason]

ws has poison tag yes

but hs doesnt

although it does poison on hit

[tender ridge]

yeah hungering souls applies poison but doesn't convert the DoT to poison

so it doesn't get a tag

[kind forge]

if you give it poison chance from the tree i think i gets the tag?

cuz thats what happens for wolves

when you take the small flat cold dmg pathing passive

[tender ridge]

wandering spirits converts the necrotic DoT to poison damage, just not the actual poison ailment

it's weird

[slim mason]

so we are left with sp then

[twilit oar]

Is there a curse that's easy to automatically apply to enemies? For enabling bone curse cast on chaos bolt hits

[slim mason]

fissure

lol

[crisp nimbus]

which regional lens am i looking for to farm minor weaver idols?

[kind forge]

aura of decay

[twilit oar]

should have specified I'm lich, lol. Otherwise yeah this would be v good

[slim mason]

i mean early lvling

[obtuse quest]

Fissure, Bone Curse itself (lmao), the rest needs specs.

[slim mason]

lol

[twilit oar]

thanks

[obtuse quest]

Flay has two curse nodes

One for Makred for Death, one for it’s unique curse

Spirit plague but that one is kinda mid

[twilit oar]

Was running bleed flay, just testing switch to chaos bolt instead

[obtuse quest]

Ghostflame but that also sucks as a curse applier

Or if you have a necrotic skill, you can take the unique gloves that apply marked for death on necortic hit

[tiny dirge]

any good :V?

[kind forge]

transplant and reaper form

reaper 10% for marked for death

20% with reap

[twilit oar]

Yeah, running transplant atm

I guess its not bad

[kind forge]

and transplant just casts bone curse on tp

[dusty onyx]

Poggo

[quick flower]

hello guys... i kinda confused with the lich or aco's hp system

why is it cut half to half red half "teal"

[slim mason]

hear me out calamity on a phys cb lvling build

[old hull]

Because you took 2+ points in the corrupted form passive

[slim mason]

up your ignite chnnce with converts to bleed with the glove

with a t7 firestarter,,, no mana concerns

[obtuse quest]

You have just halfed your health to enable any low life bonuses all the time.

[quick flower]

then the teal part is ward right?

so means if i use twisted heart... it will convert my hp to teal ward

am i get it right? @obtuse quest

but if my ward is half of my hp... then ward related stats like ward retention those will be useless for me ardy?

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[obtuse quest]

No, because even though you have a ward cap (From having no ward cap), ward is still subjected to ward retention, ward per second, and ward decay threshold.

Because the node just limits your max ward. Your ability to retain ward is still the same.

[quick flower]

oh

so the skill makes my ward to cap at 50% of my max hp

[obtuse quest]

Instead of having no cap, yes

[quick flower]

hmm... then i not sure how if i swap from twisted heart to shattered world

[keen barn]

How much armor does Exposed Flesh reduce? LEtools doesnt say

[pearl snow]

According to in game tooltip its based off your dex. 15 armor per dex

[lyric marsh]

is there a skelemancer+bone golens build this season?

and if so, where can i find a build/guide for it?

i remember last season i followed Aaron's skelemancer build until aberoth, it was pretty cool

[fossil basin]

can somebody explain please,
Low health and low life is the same? or not? whats the difference? why have 2 definitions?

[obtuse quest]

Low health and low life is the same.
Low life is just the newer term for it (Only used in 2 skill nodes and by the community, the game more commonly uses low health everywhere else.)

[fossil basin]

ok, thanks!

[calm dome]

Infernal shade on trex and abom are just zooming around monos

no movement ability sucks though

[obtuse quest]

Couldn't you swap out like one of the minions you used to make the abom for unspecced transplant

[calm dome]

oh yeah I could take skeletons off hotbar

but I kinda like having something to heal abom and trex

do I not need skeletons on hot bar for the respawn

[crisp nimbus]

The growing pains of trying to stack mana for mana flay build

[calm dome]

oh they still respawn

[crisp nimbus]

Not fun

[gusty fulcrum]

anyone know the general high end amount of ward you can expect to achieve in a LL build for Necro?

[willow current]

there's finally a guide for flay mana. would yall use that amulet from the league mech for +2 skills until you get nihilis?

[pearl snow]

yeah its pretty good

[willow current]

ok great

imma be doing a harvest flay while i farm for flay mana gear

finally got the flay boots and it feels so much better with them

[lyric marsh]

anyone knows about the skelemancer build?D:

found this one so far, besides one from maxroll:
https://www.actionrpg.com/last-epoch/guide/67ba97d151be59bd14964587

[unique epoch]

@charred ridge can you check how much dmg does your rip blood do ? Manually cast

i dont think rip blood do damage at all

[willow current]

how do people do there weaver tree?

[abstract summit]

he doesnt even have it specced

we either do death seal for 5th skill if you like the defensive goodies it gives, or marrowshard if you wanna do bugged amount of damage

[willow current]

which one would you guys use? more ms on left or more attack speed from right side?

[unique epoch]

oh wait am i loọking at the old build

can you help me send the new one? Im searching this sub and only see the build with ripblood

[willow current]

its on maxroll under build guide now i believe if we talking about the flay mana stacker

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/flay-mana-lich-guide should be the link to it

[kind forge]

right side

owo

[unique epoch]

ohhh

he is Volca

TIL

[kind forge]

most of your movement comes from attacking with flay

so movement speed doesnt matter as much as other classes

[abstract summit]

change rip blood to death seal basically for mapping, marrow shard for bossing if you want more damage (for some reason)

[unique epoch]

so i was following an old build haha

its ok i just figuring out the build

i have another one in mind, doesnt use marrow shard tho

[abstract summit]

the only other new tech is this affix on boots coupled with Reap CD reduction nodes

[peak flare]

Idea: Necro with Aura of Decay using the node that adds poison chance and more poison damage to your minions. Use an Abomination with Aura of Rot absorbing Skele Rogues for poison chance. Dread Shade converted to Poison on Abomination. What do you guys think?

[abstract summit]

ye im using death seal too, very comfy for mapping

[obtuse quest]

That's just poison rogues with extra steps and a not so good aura. It's basically Abom with slightly better clear but way worse bossing.

[willow current]

got it thank you!

[kind forge]

do it with bleed or frostbite and youll have more things to scale

[kind forge]

np

[abstract summit]

(I would still get the 26 MS tho XD )

[willow current]

would it be better to bum rush empowered monos even if my build isn't fully set?

[abstract summit]

you basically never farm normals

[willow current]

got it

[peak flare]

I wish me and my Abom could be effective poison pals 🙁 i like the idea of both of us running around with auras

[abstract summit]

100c is not that bad. just pick up the armor and all res blessings first

[obtuse quest]

One of you is going to do jack all to the enemy- You just don't have the affixes for that.

[calm dome]

I'm on the double strike and stomp abom spec rn

Hoping to farm up some strength gear for a cleaver solution swap soon

Still waiting on that non primordial amulet to drop that makes a rift beast

[ashen bluff]

thats a mandatory drop when you end the lineage

[strange kiln]

For those wondering why the Trex is BIS for Abom

was hitting under 2 mil at level 52 without trex, now 54 with trex hitting 4.6 mil

[dusty onyx]

ayaya skills

[willow current]

don't yall love accidentally dodging into the bulldoze and dying in one shot?

[sweet spade]

@charred ridge have you noticed weird damage taken discrepancies compared to 1.2?

[tulip turret]

Is there a lich build that is good for farming monos, but not super gear dependent?

[obtuse quest]

It’s Lich, the nature of Lich in general is gear dependant.

[past charm]

is there a way to take off some points on a skill without having to level it up agane ?

like i have the dagger +4

can i target the passives ?

[obtuse quest]

The skill points you lose when taking off skill point equipment is semi random and almost will never unspec it in a way that you want it.

eg: It never disables a node unless it’s basically forced to, chosing to lose levels in nodes that don’t line to a requirement

[past charm]

ha its random kek

well lets gamba

[obtuse quest]

Determistic random, it has a piority and you can “perdict” what nodes it’ll drop,but because of it’s nature, to control it you would be losing points anyway

[pearl snow]

@obtuse quest so I figured it out on the whole ailment threshold. One of the mods responded saying its probably tick rate. I did test it. AIlment Frequency is additive Tick rate so you can roughly take your attack speed and figure out a avg application amount per second for AoD. So far even though my AS is shit I'm hitting 999 poison stacks pretty easily

I think with 1.5 attacks per second im at like 8ish ticks

[sweet spade]

how much do you have? when i first switched, i had like 200 and it worked

[sweet spade]

did you get lucky, or did you reroll this in the echo?

[obtuse quest]

Did you just godamn casually reveal that AoD’s base tick rate is tied to your godamn attack speed?

[abstract summit]

i went in with a boots having a T7 suffix and whatever prefixes, i knew i only need it for an LP 1
crafting the ward prefix is guaranteed, then the havoc and the refinements are RNG

if you want to make it on a boots where you also care about a second prefix that's kinda tricky, suffix is okay

def start from a T7 suffix boots tho

or tbf i dont know how it works, if the craft hits your T7 prefix will the experimental inherit the tier or it's gonna be random? im guessing random but maybe not?
havent done a lot of experimental crafts with the new system

[molten bramble]

Just use font of the erased you never need ward gen you hit 60 times a second an generate 150-200 a hit you do the math

[sweet spade]

yeah it's just another crit/stat trade off

are you guys using misha's mana flay or noobzors?

[molten bramble]

Arnt all the flays the same just stack mana

[sweet spade]

they attempt to build defense differently

misha's one (the one on maxroll) uses corrupted form
noobzors does not have corrupted form

there's a discussion trail about this yesterday with noobzor

noobzor reckons ehp without corrupted form is better

[abstract summit]

not everybody is doing corrupted form tho

[molten bramble]

Yeah true

[willow current]

did they change where just doing my first lvl90 monos and completing it gives me empowered monos?

[pearl snow]

With Flay it is LOL

I’ve changed my build for it lmao

[molten bramble]

Btw I moved off woven flesh moved to core of the mountain it is so hard to get a 2 LP of it

setup is really hard to get

[abstract summit]

if you dont want to invest heavily into life imo the boots affix is the best bang for the buck. i personally plan to use it together with erased still just it's not happening lol

ye mountain is pretty good was looking at it

have the dungeon packs drop uniques weaver specced if it drops im not gonna be mad about it lol

[sweet spade]

oh, one benefit of corrupted form was that leech doesn't stop

[abstract summit]

well it still stops when the monster is dead and you leeched all of its HP

but yes you trade one shot EHP for DOT EHP and increased sustain

[sweet spade]

i dunno how the maths works all up though, would love @autumn bough to chime in

[abstract summit]

i mean there is no universal math for it, it's all based on how much HP you personally have and how much ward you can generate without font tech

[worldly birch]

on mana flay, do you guys ever run into the problem of not being able to get mana back because there are no bosses or rares around

and your harvest is too weak to one shot any white mobs

but you cant bring down the health of white mobs first before harvest, because if you flay them then they just die to your flay or cb before you can harvest them

so you just run around with no mana looking for a rare to hit

[obtuse quest]

Oh that LMAO

[abstract summit]

i mean ye you literally described the mana flay experience lol

gotta be concious with your play

but it's not that bad

[worldly birch]

well i just wonder if theres a way to avoid that situation more consistently

[sweet spade]

you can only press flay once per pack before you get more mana

[abstract summit]

spec all the champion weaver tree nodes to help if you are having trouble

[sweet spade]

most of the flay dmg actually comes from the chaos bolts after

[worldly birch]

that's the issue im having though

like i want to flay the white mobs to make them low hp

because my harvest does no damage

[abstract summit]

you are overthinking it

[worldly birch]

but the cb kills them before my harvest comes out

[abstract summit]

just keep zooming

[sweet spade]

you should be able to sustain on harvest on rares/champions and random white mobs

how much mana do you have?

[worldly birch]

yes normally i do

[sweet spade]

i was doing mana flay with 200 mana lol

[worldly birch]

it's just sometimes that this happens

i have 987

[sweet spade]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

[abstract summit]

i mean ye release the trigger from time to time 😄

[worldly birch]

it's not like it happens every map or even every 2-3 maps

[sweet spade]

how are you running out of mana

don't hold down flay

[worldly birch]

it's just sometimes you have no rares around

and youre fighting beefy magic mobs for example

[sweet spade]

ya but you should never even get to the point where you have 50% mana

[worldly birch]

you really have no recourse in that situation

[unique epoch]

your harvest should do > 50k 100k dmg to white mobs

[abstract summit]

i mean i do on purpose to get more ward from my boots XD

[main badge]

whats the main difference between mana stacking and not-mana stacking flay?

[sweet spade]

damage? kekw

[unique epoch]

mana

sorry im being a kid

[pearl snow]

If you aren’t mana stacking you are most likely not doing dmg and are DoT focused I assume

Hit smg

Dmg

[unique epoch]

cold harvest flay spec into dex and cold dmg

[pearl snow]

^ or that

[unique epoch]

and your main dmg from spamming harvest, flay only for stack the boots

[sweet spade]

harvest flay (the old build) scales off dex IIRC
whereas mana flay scales off mana (a lot scaleable)

[main badge]

so mana has a higher dmg ceiling?

[unique epoch]

while mana flay proc many spells and scale them off using the node Deadly Plot on Flay

so far yes mana flay is superior in dmg

and it's a real Flay build

[main badge]

about same in terms of tankyness the? they seem to take the same defense stuff

[worldly birch]

im not sure how much damage it does, but often times it doesnt one shot them

it does like maybe half their health

[unique epoch]

how much corruption are you at

[worldly birch]

not sure if im missing something but i think harvest isnt scaled by anything we stack in the mana version

im at like 300 ish

i mean it's like maybe something that happens 1/4 maps or so

most maps are fine and smooth

[abstract summit]

like 10x higher

min

[unique epoch]

harvest scale with int and dex

even if we stack mana, int should be higher priority for rings and gloves

[worldly birch]

but sometimes you just get unlucky with the distribution, no champs/rares and only magic mosnters or beefier whites that dont get one shot easily

[unique epoch]

and btw dont spam much, i only do 1 flay per pack and CB do the rest

[worldly birch]

yeah i know that part, i dont spam unless im on single target

[unique epoch]

depends on how you build, usually slap in Death Seal and cooldown reduction then you are pretty tanky most of the time

[worldly birch]

or sometimes the mob distribution is perfect and youi just get tons of rares to jump between and mana is always near full

[unique epoch]

umm run around and wait for it regen then 😄

[worldly birch]

lol i know, was just wondering if theres some tech im missing here

or missed some important passive

[sweet spade]

are you following the maxroll guide

[worldly birch]

no, mostly just found some random planners from this channel

havent had a chance to look at maxroll yet

[sweet spade]

link your planner

actually, just look at the maxroll guide first

you probably have different allocations

[worldly birch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/jayc/character/jclich

yea ill take a look at maxroll and see if im missing anything

[sweet spade]

you're wearing the gear for noobzors mana flay, but using misha's build

[abstract summit]

the thing you are missing is putting your gear through nemesis 😄

[worldly birch]

oh i always hate doing that lol

i dont want t2 physical penetration

[abstract summit]

ye of lil faith

[worldly birch]

or t1 void resistance on my nice helmet

id rather just have nothing than that lmfao

[abstract summit]

that's one way to live life i guess

[worldly birch]

but yeah ill fill out the missing prefixes eventually once i can afford it

can easily pick up another 200 mana or so

i dunno if thatll solve the issue but it cant hurt

[unique epoch]

try remove 5 points from mind over body to this

[left whale]

Iam almost there to perfect the build, i will share the planner link

Minion explosion hella fun

[sweet spade]

something is really weird with damage this league

[worldly birch]

thanks, ill try that

[vivid ruin]

Wild

[vocal wind]

Idk if the Army of skin boots are that rare

but I'm slowly getting frustrated 😄

game, just give me the boots already, with LP pls

[quartz pilot]

Does this mean that the mana cost of chaos bolts is irrelevant?

[abstract forge]

2 mana for every chaos bolt released

[obtuse quest]

Correct.

It always only costs 2 mana.

Note that it fires a projectile of chaos bolt, it is not a cast of chaos bolts.

[sweet spade]

if use a MG item to sacrifice and reroll a regular item, does the regular item get locked to MG?

[abstract forge]

no

[sweet spade]

thank god

[quartz pilot]

tyty ❤️

[viral prawn]

Hello
I am searching for a good necromancer filter. What do you propose?

[obtuse quest]

The one that is made for the build you're going for.

[viral prawn]

I don't know yet

[obtuse quest]

Then that's a problem, because generic filters don't help you enough and you'll just get subpar equipment.

[astral kettle]

I lose health over time on my Necromancer and intend to stay on low health. Will this also trigger the Revenant summon from Ethereal Revenant?

[sweet spade]

anyone know if crit stun is based off max hp or current hp

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[astral kettle]

Thanks

[obtuse quest]

Stun's formula is based off damage and a combination of max health and current ward. (A crit naturally will have higher odds to stun because crits do more damage)

[sweet spade]

anyone recall that rift beast farming tech? something about spawning rift beast echos, then buying the amber, then doing it again?

[charred ridge]

no

[astral kettle]

The Acolyte passive node Veins Of Power provides shared physical damage to my minions too. Does this shared physical damage also include all increased damage sources that I have?

[obtuse quest]

No, it just literally means:
" X% increased You and minion physical damage"

So 20% shared increased physical damage means:
20% increased physical damage & 20% increased minion physical damage.

[astral kettle]

So sad. I thought all of my total physical damage was shared XD Thanks.

[limpid mural]

What the f** is wrong with some of the champions? Oneshotting everything even rift beasts, then suddenly theres a champ not dying at all, oneshotting me for 7k damage? oO

[obtuse quest]

Better check if it was a possessed champion, because those things are monsters. (Possessed mobs have double stats, literally just straight up a separate 100% more modifier)

[limpid mural]

uhhh yea at least the last one actually ways yea

[obtuse quest]

yeah those are VERY scary.

Will mess you up no matter what

[unique epoch]

how dumb of me to realize

this is a catalyst not relic ...

[charred ridge]

lmao

[ruby silo]

hello guys is anyone playing warlock this league? or is everyone going lich

[obtuse quest]

Lmao

You mean the exalted right

[unique epoch]

yes, and i havoc'd it to mana t7 ...

[void onyx]

Is there a way to tell if Aboms is triggered?

visually

[obtuse quest]

My condolences.

[obtuse quest]

Other than actually noticing it moving and smacking things faster, I don't think so.

[astral kettle]

In the Necromancer skill tree for Golem I am taking the Twined Golems and Ivory Twin nodes. Are these nodes worth it? I can't decide.

[void onyx]

Wait, if it eats the trex, does it brick the Abom?

[obtuse quest]

Can it even eat the trex?

[void onyx]

yes

[obtuse quest]

It probably won't brick it if you meant Engorgement, unless it's the 21th minion and it kicks something out of the queue

[void onyx]

Though the tooltip states it shouldnt. You must include all the needed minions, but extra dont do anything

I still can't tell though. Maybe sometime I should summon a bricked one on purpose and compare it, but meh

[unique epoch]

its been so silence from EHG about abomination situation

breaked AI, breaked "snapshot prevention", no visual clarification of what and what not applied to abo

[void onyx]

I don't see how AI is broken. A bit clunky, but it's not broken.

[inland seal]

Guys, I'm 20 kills into farming throne of ambition

Are these rookie numbers I need to pump up

I'm going nuts. (And I have the 150% boss drop rate faction going)

[void onyx]

Yeah, sometimes it just happens like that

[astral kettle]

How do I see how much resistances my minions have in LastEpochTools?

[obtuse quest]

Don't forget to farm in empowered.

[frosty herald]

you cant transfer that to legendaries right?

[obtuse quest]

No, because it's sealed.

[drifting plume]

how is Flay Mana Lich compared to normal harvwest flay lich?

[unique epoch]

much higher dps

[drifting plume]

mhm

more investment tho right?

would it be possible to start flay mana with just normal uniques intead of those slammed ones?

[sweet spade]

alright. time to folly false temple farm

[sweet spade]

yes, but you need to have the uniques

[drifting plume]

that's no issue

i am lvl 6 merchant

just cba to wait for lvl 7

to switch

xd

[unique epoch]

hmm i start with very basic gear

[sweet spade]

i switched at lv74 and ended with 200 mana lmfao

[unique epoch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B70xb4Ko

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (77) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,074, Regen: 20.5/s
▸ Mana: 938.76, Regen: 13.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 202%, Regen: 89/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 15 Dex / 61 Int / 3 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 107% / 52% / 71% / 24% / 216% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 456
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (255)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,374)

Used skills:

Flay / Harvest / Death Seal / Reaper Form / Chaos Bolts

[sweet spade]

i started MG, seriously hate it, and am trying to switch away from it now

[unique epoch]

use this

[drifting plume]

how much mana u need

[unique epoch]

its really easy too since you dont need to spam harvest

just flay once and go, CB do the rest

[drifting plume]

mhm

[inland seal]

Darn, after being CoF for so long I wondered how the MG experience would be. I do like a little bit of economy

[sweet spade]

you're meant to have like 800, but if you just take it easy it works with 200

[unique epoch]

MG is better if you know the meta, use the TSM discord filter for start

buttt it will be a pain in the ass to minmax

[sweet spade]

MG is terrible IMO, because:

1. you're spending more time looking at items and the admin that goes with selling stuff
2. actual good items are too expensive anyway

ie, good items for vk es last league went above gold cap

[unique epoch]

and it only work for the first 2 week

[drifting plume]

cuz of the dupe that occured

lol

[unique epoch]

like red ring only 3m which is easy to get

[sweet spade]

ya but it's going to be the same this league, have you looked at prices of red rings, or 3lp tithes etc

[unique epoch]

then put it in nemesis and curse it for the whole league

also im deep into MG now i cant change to CoF even if i wanted to 🙁

[sweet spade]

that's a rip

[drifting plume]

XD

[drifting plume]

new char

play cof on there.

[vocal wind]

I wish I could get that ring as a CoF player tho

maybe I'll get one

but 2, with nice LPs ? yeah that's not going to happen

[dusty onyx]

Marrow shards powered by rip blood is silly. 300k dmg per hit with 4 hit per second against lvl 100 dudes

[modern timber]

im missing a red ring chat did one of u take it

😠

[modern timber]

theres my red ring 🙁

[unique epoch]

lol

poison aura of decay ?

[vocal wind]

is that the chaos bolt lich build ? How is it ?

[modern timber]

its fun and tanky

[modern timber]

give us the ring

[vocal wind]

I'm playing the harvest/flay one, it's fun but I feel squishy

[modern timber]

play this you wont die

[vocal wind]

prolly gonna rotate to the mana stacking version in late season

[unique epoch]

pray that i drop an unmarked one xD