💀┃acolyte

[pearl snow]

And +1

Skeletons can be optionally dropped for Volatile Zombies with the retch setup

Could even automate them lol, but you lose a shitload of mana and regen sadge

Make one if you’ve used others you don’t like.

[frigid lintel]

retch?

[pearl snow]

The vomit thing

It can shred armor until they explode

[frigid lintel]

hmm

Currently testing zombies

they are cool in terms of damage and "target sustain"

But god, they tank my mana

Tbf - roll on cruelty is insanely bad

[frigid lintel]

I`m forced to use it, otherwise they explode not through sacrifice.

Have 2 of them

Allocated this node and still don't have +2 for this skill

[old hull]

There's no way to give skeletons the DOT tag, so they can't get +levels from that ring

[frigid lintel]

Thanks

Btw, look at them

Just chilling beside me, considering I have Cruelty equipped.

No idea how exactly that happened

[pearl snow]

Vanguards somewhere

Weird they arnt exploding

[frigid lintel]

Nope, those are warriors

[pearl snow]

Tf

[frigid lintel]

xD

Time to roll some Cruelty`s through CoF

[pearl snow]

@obtuse quest started tinkering with a bossing setup for Witchfire. Dropping mace and righteous for Spreading Flames and HS plus Soulfire goes crazy

It sucks that HS needs points but technically swapping transplant and HS isn’t awful. Especially if its only for attempting ubby or something

In veil the DoT ticks double

[soft spire]

yoo i jus 1 hit the havoc from health to drain life

[warm canyon]

could i have help?

[pearl snow]

With?

[obtuse quest]

Yeah the HS spreading flames setup gives you a lot more bossing potential, but idk if it's enough for uber

[obtuse quest]

With what?

Not really? A Lich build can be good as long as it runs Reaper Form OR Death Seal, but both is always better.

I'm saying that because that build looks like it'll die in 30 seconds in base empowered.

[warm canyon]

i was wanting to try the wraithlord buil buthave no idea how to start or where to get the helmet

[obtuse quest]

It's a random drop. Good luck. Farm rune of ascendancies or farm the unique helm node in monoliths.

[warm canyon]

oh

[pearl snow]

Yeah I highly doubt itll do Uber in his current state

[obtuse quest]

Uber's HP count is close to Abomination Boss' 23k c hp count-

[pearl snow]

wait thats giga good to know

oh wait

did you just say

23k corruption

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

Oh it's worse, 24k c

[pearl snow]

dear god

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJV3vrqQ any suggestions for upgrade?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,064, Regen: 12/s
▸ Mana: 169.03, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 352%, Regen: 37/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 9 Dex / 128 Int / 0 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 80% / 67% / 80% / 77% / 157% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 613
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,992)

Used skills:

Infernal Shade / Death Seal / Transplant / Reaper Form / Summon Volatile Zombie

[pearl snow]

Pale Ox might be something to look into. I don’t think you are taking full advantage of the Null Portent DR and Pale Ox can be reasonably farmed for 2 LP. With automated zombies you should have nearly 100% uptime on a minion

[wise leaf]

Pale ox + minion traversal exp affix on boots, it's a night and day difference while mapping.

[zinc jay]

I tried slamm pale ox into t6 health and t7 bonus crit damage reduction , got waisted as always 🤣

So pale ox must have? @wise leaf

I have planner to follow, but im not sure

[near hearth]

i play wraithlord style, so what affix insert to my LP helm?? vitality and intel??

what affix that synergize with necro build wraithlord

[zinc jay]

For wraithlord better add like minion damage

[near hearth]

cannot attach minion damage shard in helmet

[zinc jay]

https://youtu.be/4A5ulF-gsAY?si=fzRrra1j0e5t0v6H

Check like this @near hearth

[near hearth]

ty

[zinc jay]

https://youtu.be/WJYXLpGvTRE?si=Q8ZH9UI2LUefPAOR

Or this

[zinc jay]

Basically you need make immortal wraithlord for hp and decent dps ,so he will destroy everything

[wise leaf]

The minion exp affix is a must have imo, you can also get the champion affix on a ring and replace flames of midnight with it. But i would just prioritise it on your boots and try to get movement speed on a 2lp.

You can also get immolator belt for more damage

[zinc jay]

Im intelligence stacking

Its not that important you think? @wise leaf

[wise leaf]

No it's not that important, it gives you a lot of armor and a bit of dmg, so it's definitely good, but i wouldn't stack it specifically.

[deft otter]

Hello zveryone, i m currently playin stygian beam lich and i wanted to know if my stats are correct dmg considering the stygian coil provide more proc on stygian beam per 1 int and more dmg on stygian beam per 10 mana (for now i'm only 180-200 corruption and one shot everythin in a seconds. Should i stack more mana or int ? Or its okay and should try to work on my few slot for resistances

(Sorry for the bad quality)

Is my mana, int and cast speed-spell crit are fine to push to 500-600 corruption comfortably

?

Stats are 173 int, mana 861, cast speed can reach 200% with reaper form and 74% chance crit spell

[willow verge]

U can link your character via last epoch tools

[deft otter]

Oh i didnt knew

Sorry gotta check it its like an armory website with your characters ?

Gotta create an account i ll sent you once its done

[zinc jay]

Open website click that 3 line button

And write your Ingame name

[chrome mason]

You have morr than enough damage to push 1k corruption but your defenses are awful

[zinc jay]

@deft otter

[chrome mason]

Can help more once u send ur planner

[zinc jay]

Resistance sucks man

[deft otter]

Ty for the tips kind if you💪🏼🙏🏻

[zinc jay]

I push my lich rn into 650c with starter gear

Smoothly clean

[deft otter]

I know even though for now i didnt died even once i think with 600-700 corruption i may encounter a way more sinister fate😅

I m tryin to reach 250 little by little

On all monolith

Timelines

[zinc jay]

Y need up 1 monolith into high corruption

[deft otter]

Only 1?

[zinc jay]

And rest easy up by 1 orobyss kill

[deft otter]

Holy shit sorry i m kinda newbie but i lll take in consideration all of your words🙏🏻

I will push reign of dragons so

[zinc jay]

Just check YouTube

Some video explaining here

How to push corruption

And so on

I just start character in Friday ,rn lvl 96 and 650c farming

What build you do?

[deft otter]

Stygian beam lich

And other character are earthquake beastmaster and jugement paladin

For now atleast

[zinc jay]

😐

[deft otter]

😅🤣🤣🤣

[zinc jay]

I find my way this acolyte class most fun thou

I use infernal shade build

[deft otter]

I was planning to do a chtonic fissure from start on acolyte a week ago

Then

If seen stygian beam and so i move on 😅

I've

Sorry for my bad english

[zinc jay]

Just make sure you do enough dps

And don't die

[zinc jay]

You follow any guide or planner?

[deft otter]

https://youtu.be/dQQYu8t0CcM?si=MyGw_lm7SNrwFGn8

Yes i've got by luck all item 1lp with while i was farming with chtonic fissure on friday evening it took me 3hours to get all the unique and i wasnt finding any use to them. Then by pure coincidence i found a video from this one

Moxsy is his name on youtube

The différence from him and me is a the resistances

Though i've just thinkin that i have multiple like fire lightning and void res that i can cap to 75% with blessing

So even though all my res wont be capped i should be able to have 4 more res capped

With blessong

[willow verge]

I leveled a flame whip warlock, but struggling at uber. With stygian coal lich will be easier?

[zinc jay]

No

For Uber need each gear 3lp , some acceptable at 2lp

[willow verge]

I cant get this kkilled. It is my 3rd character

Maybe it is time to roll a VK

[zinc jay]

Same as 90% of people in game

I kill regular Aberroth in 80 seconds

But uber undoable

@willow verge https://youtu.be/aveMEJwtrX4?si=icXoia7j3XqjvPHM

Check video and gear

Maybe will be more clear

[willow verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qd9vdrKB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (29) / Warlock (61)

General:

▸ Health: 2,552, Regen: 19.58/s
▸ Mana: 218.99, Regen: 12.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 165%, Regen: 217/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 12 Dex / 55 Int / 18 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 104% / 69% / 99% / 70% / 108% / 511% / 69%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 510
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,276)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Chthonic Fissure / Spirit Plague / Profane Veil / Transplant

[willow verge]

My toon

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bx7kzVOQ

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,109, Regen: 22.4/s
▸ Mana: 1,100.41, Regen: 18.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 404%, Regen: 11/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 29 Dex / 202 Int / 20 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 114% / 114% / 114% / 110% / 115% / 124% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 622
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (159)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,432)

Used skills:

Transplant / Rip Blood / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Death Seal

[zinc jay]

That's his planner @willow verge

Its all about the gear and playstyle, not about character class or mastery

Maybe you miss important thing on gear , so you can't do

[obtuse quest]

The easy question is "Are you stunning everything?". If not, you're not strong enough.

[willow verge]

Bossing is a piece of cake though.

[obtuse quest]

That's the core strength of the build. If it's not, then you failed.

It's supposed to be able to stun uberroth himself at full power.

[willow verge]

Thats a tough chore

[tight prairie]

Mana guide T posing runemaster is another level of unique gameplay

[empty kite]

I run Warlock with flamewhip and got to 700 corruption. I'm still doing fine, however it feels like Infernal shade which I use to help clear speed doesn't do much anymore. What other skill can I replace it with to help Chtonic fissure monolith clear? I now use fissure, bone curse, profane veil, transplant, infernal shade

[signal scarab]

Uber aberoth kill @zinc jay @willow verge with Stygian Coal and not min maxxed gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGserKV7czU

[zinc jay]

But its 3 minute kill ,for my video showcase he kill for 80 seconds

So twice faster

[signal scarab]

Yes ofc, the point is to prove its possible with lesser gear

don't need 3lp minmax

[zinc jay]

Oke

But you still need 1lp x2 red rings

[soft spire]

these r so rare what corruption do people usually get them at? or is it jus entirely random

[signal scarab]

just spam prophecies, I think its roughly 750k prophecy resource per ring, I can get one ring a day

[soft spire]

oh ok im no where near that

maybe spent 200k

[calm dome]

I might be making leveling way harder than it should be by leveling as bleed warlock

[soft spire]

ye i did minion but the walkspeed was super slow

and minion ai was idk

[thorn grove]

nice

[pearl snow]

Should be fine, I do it all the time

[zinc jay]

Lol you was right ,immolators oblation are game changer @wise leaf

[pearl snow]

Your best bet at that corruption level is to just do something that buffs flame whip more. Rip Blood for flat spell dmg, Spirit Plague for extra curse and “more” dmg per hit. Those are the only ones I can think of atm

[zinc jay]

Lol got 2lp and some luck

[wise leaf]

Ye it's a lot of damage, especially for bossing

[zinc jay]

Abberoth 3 second faster

Not much

🤣

[median pebble]

can some kind soul look at my lich and help me figure out what am i missing for uber

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvJyOvWA

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,758, Regen: 25.22/s
▸ Mana: 674.81, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 10 Dex / 193 Int / 10 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 110% / 110% / 110% / 87% / 139% / 90%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 552
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (55)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,233)

Used skills:

Transplant / Rip Blood / Reaper Form / Drain Life / Death Seal

[placid token]

yy nothing i guess xd

[median pebble]

well then I am severely hands diffed

[pearl snow]

yeah your gear is comparable to that uber kill linked earlier

so its possible

[empty kite]

And how much more damage immolation oblation is compared to chains of uleros for flame whip? it's sacrificing defense for offense I guess

[slender ibex]

does lich get more damange beyond 33% hp that death seal puts u on? Meaning ur dmg would be even higher if u were at 20% or lets say 5% hp?

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

Counts up to 1% hp left I think

[spark flower]

I don't know what build to play for my warlock , I am doubting between witchfire or flamewhip or just going for a torment one, I want something that is strong but also that is fun to play like interactive, I was just playing a build with wandering spirits, spirit plague and chthonic fissure but now that I am level 50 I want to change a bit

[empty kite]

Can vouch for flame whip with infernal shades, reached 1000 corruption with it pretty easily (though on 1000 I sometimes die)

And pretty active, fissure, shade, curse, teleport

Costantly running and pressing buttons

Ah yes, and bosses are stunlocked (most), also pretty nice

[spark flower]

That's all I need to hear, thanks

Flamewhip it is

[willow verge]

mind sharing your planner

[lost gale]

Time rot's spread on death is so much better than any of the Acolyte prolif tech afaict.

hopefully the acolyte rework will come with some sweet sweet proliferating ailment stuff

[obtuse quest]

Spirit Plague also spreads on death tbf, it just does... okay damage

[lost gale]

it suffers greatly for being its own thing that doesn't stack or get applied by other skills so you're really limited on what multipliers you can bring to bear on it

[obtuse quest]

Yeah that's why it's just.. okay at best

[lost gale]

mayb the acolyte rework could make it like some combination of gathering storm and time rot where it's an ailment applied as usual but it has its own sub-skill/tree it benefits from even when triggered/applied elsewhere

that seems to be a good formula for making something strong in this game, getting to apply a couple of skill trees and lots of gear to it from different angles

[calm dome]

Anyone knows how Mantle of Flames on Chthonic Fissure affects Flame Whips if you have Spine of Malatros? Does it time x4 the ailment chance for flame whip hits if you max it out?

[old hull]

Ignite chance per second doesn't affect hits, so it does nothing for whips

[pearl snow]

It depends on how often you are casting and also how much LP your chains currently is honestly. But the biggest issue is potions being useless and actually bad for your ward gen on low life

I would say expect like 10-20 average added flat dmg on whip though

[calm dome]

wait does the kill threshold on brittle bones from bone curse affect you with bone curse aura? like enemies can execute you at low life

[obtuse quest]

Yes

Everything affects you as if you're an enemy.

(kill threshold doesn't work if the target has ward)

[calm dome]

oh ok. ward stopping that definitely helps. I thought they would just instantly kill with one hit if you are low life

[obtuse quest]

You also can't proc kill thresholds while a boss has ward, so it's equality-

[pine mist]

how can i boost the dps? he can take hits but does very little damage. takes a long time to kill anything. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe0kOnMA

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 75

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,251, Regen: 12.9/s
▸ Mana: 118.88, Regen: 11.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 184%, Regen: 80/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 11 Dex / 58 Int / 0 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 43% / 55% / 37% / 35% / 61% / 67% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 73%, Threshold: 250
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (95)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,059)

Used skills:

Drain Life / Transplant / Reaper Form / Death Seal / Rip Blood

[obtuse quest]

You need a lot more int and a lot more mana.

Like, 150+ int and 400+ mana.

[pine mist]

how would you recommend i get that? dont have empowered. just normal monos

[obtuse quest]

Get the ability to do empowered if you can.
Otherwise, exalteds, and legendaries.

Like, your body armour is kinda ass

[pine mist]

agreed. been trying to get armor to drop with level or int but none yet. been speeding empowered on my main, and same. can other class armor drop or only on that class do they drop?

[pearl snow]

Other class items are reduced drop rates I believe

Like VK has reduced acolyte drop and vice versa

[obtuse quest]

They can, but low.
Weighted to 80% of the class being played and 20% of other classes.

[pine mist]

ah

[pearl snow]

Your best bet might be a common unique as a patchfix

[pine mist]

anything i can do to boost damage with what i presently have be it skills or passive?

what are some uniques to see if i have?

[pearl snow]

Nothing really gives you int on a unique chest, but like Titan Heart / Woven Flesh / Pale Ox can be used for more hp. I think Urzils gives Attunement which is max mana lmao.
But you are only 75 so just going tthrough normal monos and leveling is massive

I know lich has a load of int on the tree

[zinc jay]

Somebody can help kill uber ?

[pearl snow]

Might be better served asking in the general community chat. Acolyte’s have very low uber kills total

[zinc jay]

Ugh 🤣

But its most fun class what i played

[pearl snow]

Yeah we only got like Flame Whip or Stygian Coal lich stuff

So 2 builds lol

Not terrible though

[zinc jay]

Necromancer abomination

Also

[pearl snow]

I stopped attempting to push and got distracted with builds so it’s too late for me

Oh yeah Abom snapshotting

LOL

[zinc jay]

3 builds

[pearl snow]

[zinc jay]

At least better than 2

[pearl snow]

True

1 for each spec

[zinc jay]

Well i think mostly other classes have as well not more than 3 builds who can kill uber

[lost gale]

Abom can do it without snapshotting afaik

it's just, you're already jumping through hoops to summon the thing, why not snapshot

[zinc jay]

@lost gale what gear need to do abomination?

[lost gale]

idk, never played it, but I've heard it can be done without snapshotting

[wise basalt]

Why is wraithlord sooooo strong and easy?

I'm looking at other classes to play and start fresh but nothing is as easy to play and so braindead lol

[soft spire]

is it stronger than stygian coal lich?

[wise basalt]

Probably not but I hate playing melee and I want minions that kill everything while I don't press any buttons

[soft spire]

ah stygian is chill u just pop buffs and then spam rip blood and drain life

[wise basalt]

Yeah but I wanted to play a whole other class

Or maybe another mastery is enough too 🤔

[median pebble]

has anyone killed uber with stygian lich without shattered worlds relic?

[wise basalt]

The requirements are brutal, including 2 red rings

Is this build good even without the ultra rare items?

[soft spire]

Yeah

U only need Stygian coal at first

[wise basalt]

How high corruption can I run with just this?

[soft spire]

Just the coal?

At least empowered mono or 100

[wise basalt]

Hm I don't know, going from "summon wraithlord and then do absolutely nothing and watch enemies die" to this might be too much lol

[vital niche]

Wasnt there an Acolyte build that uses fire and necrotic?

[pearl snow]

Witchfire

An on Hit CB build if you are crazy

[wispy bramble]

is there a minion dodge cap and if so what is it?

basicly trying to figure out if 1200 dodge on bone golem is worth it at all or not

[crimson trench]

is dot acolyte any good?

spirit plague looks fun

[wintry flame]

It's likely 85% and scales like it does for yourself.

[wispy bramble]

Damn alright ty

[soft spire]

nihilis only worth using if its +2 skills?

that one rolled awful

[slender ibex]

depends on the rolls, if u get a lot of negatives and plus 1 ofc not worth, but the item can be worth very much to use even at +1 with other good rolls. Like more armor and hp ms mana with some res? thats insane regardless of skills. Idk if u have some super important skill needing +2 but yeah

[soft spire]

Just makes drain life good even though I already got it lvl 26

[pearl snow]

DoT acolyte has several variants and is good. Spirit Plague itself doesn’t scale so great its not really a main dmg dealer

[soft spire]

no shot

[mortal swift]

is there a way to see my max skeletons on minion character sheet?

i'm trying to get 4 golems out but it's capping at 3

[obtuse quest]

No, gotta pen and paper it

[calm dome]

I forgot I am not forced to do campaign as my 2nd character lol

I got all my passive and idol slots now just running monos

scuffed gear and resists but I'm blasting

[lost gale]

the popcorn skeles setup is actually pretty fun

I wish the skele resurrection stuff was quicker than 3s so I could stop to cast less when clearing (mayb use the shield set affix too!) and there's some buff management with the chaos bolts side of things but mana stacking & seed & good ward generation makes it feel pretty robust as acolytes go

[minor cedar]

I'm back to the game after a while and noticed set affix crafting. The first thing that came to mind is isadora damned warlock build

Anybody tried?

[obtuse quest]

The only thing that comes close is witchfire, which isadora's bonus damned chance doesn't count for it.

[pearl snow]

Cruelty and stuff?

[lost gale]

nah mana stacking profane oblation with chaos bolts to double dip on %more and flat from mana to skele mages

[pearl snow]

Ooooooo

Cool

[lost gale]

I tried sacrifice via volatile zombies, not in the well optimised theory craft way but just in the what gear is in my stash way and it was very tedious, underwhelming and absurdly mana intensive.

Skele mages just do it for free

[pearl snow]

Same here with the sac lol

[lost gale]

I don't have a seed worth using yet but I'm going to be using seed as a pretty nice defensive item given that I'm stacking all that mana but not really spending it and skeleton refund is providing pretty decent regen

[pearl snow]

I’d like seed to be another alternative for Acolyte we have so many builds that barely use mana or gain it back quickly

Its just hard to justify over barbute a lot of times

[north lance]

I might continue leveling my Lich character next month. Does flat spell curse damage on a helmet significantly improve the damage of Lich's Stygian Coal? I feel like this build is quite hard to scale damage for

[lost gale]

The skeletons being sacked is actually a half decent ward engine. Without all the warlocky benefits of stacking necrotic Res I don't fancy barbute here

[obtuse quest]

Not really? Your main damage isn't a curse.

[pearl snow]

Stygian has fairly easy scaling

Its just mana int and crit isn’t it?

[pearl snow]

Fair point. I genuinely take anything else when possible lol

[lost gale]

I too have found myself looking at every imaginable helmet and returning to the barbute

[north lance]

Besides intelligence, what else will increase its damage? I already have a very high crit chance

[obtuse quest]

Mana, spell damage, necrotic damage.

[north lance]

Which node makes mana increase damage?

[north lance]

Ok, i see

Which 2 affixes are great for Nihilis 2LP with this build?

[lost gale]

I haven't played the build myself but AIUI the goal should be 100% crit chance, as much crit multi & int as you can fit in, some cast speed (for rip blood) and then mana

apparently spam casting life drain increases the ROF of the beams enough that it does more DPS overall than keeping your mana high

[north lance]

Does that mean if you cast again while the life drain duration is still active, it will fire two beams simultaneously?

[lost gale]

each active drain life has its own set of beams. I saw this short clip where someone demonstrated the number of ailment stacks they were applying on a dummy with and without spamming drain life and the difference was quite notable even if it didn't look look like two was twice as many beams as one

but it also seemed to me that the play loop was a bit more natural because you spam life drain and you mana drops then you spam rip blood to bring it back up and then you cast life drain and so on

[north lance]

Like Paladin Judgement? 🤣

[lost gale]

yeah I guess

builder/spender isn't something I care for too much in ARPGs but at least for the coal lich the spender is dealing sustained damage while you're building and it isn't some big one-shot crit thing you have to make sure not to waste or you do zDPS

[cold grail]

For a lich wand, which imprint is priority, crit strike multiplier or spell crit strike chance?

[lost gale]

I think you'd have to math that out for your particular gear setup, whether critting harder or more often is more dps. Thankfully you should only need to worry about your crit stats in isolation rather than all your offensive stats

looks to me like the chance is more important, it's a much bigger share of the total % increased crit chance than the multi is of the total crit multi and that'll probably be true for you too

[cold grail]

Crit multi is already at 347% and spell crit chance is only 20%. Seems like critting more often should help with the slowdown in killing as I increase corruption. At least more than increasing the multi % higher.

[lost gale]

yeah definitely

do you have the uberroth relic?

[cold grail]

No

[lost gale]

doesn't really seem possible to cap crit without it

you only get 9% base crit with the gloves so the T7 increased on wand is going to be maybe ~25% crit chance overall

[empty kite]

Sorry missed your message. Here it is: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Ergox/character/ErgoxW

at 1000 corruption clear speed, damage, bossing are all good. Survivability is ok, sometimes I die if not careful (though some stuff hits for 23000 overkill damage, so I guess everyone dies to this)

the gear is also not that great, can get more ward / health

[lost gale]

is the hollow lich tech worth using if you're not taking melee leech on gloves? I don't see how it's better for you than just increased fire%

oh nvm acid skin

brain fade

are you snapshotting aura of decay to reach 100% crit with acid skin?

[empty kite]

Yes I do snapshot 2 of them

Two idols

I also have better chest piece but cannot reach 180 stats with it, so waiting for red ring drop

[lost gale]

yeah I can see it, two good rolls and you'd be above 750% increased for the cap

You can use singularity for 20% more damage btw

[empty kite]

Yes indeed

[dawn echo]

Does acolyte have strong builds that can do both 1k+ corruptions and uberroth well

[wintry flame]

yes

[median pebble]

one class each? stygian lich, whip lock and abom necro?

[arctic turtle]

my latest project is a poison melee lich

[median pebble]

please post a build if it works, would be supper cool

[arctic turtle]

will do, I don't know how far I'll get. I usually just pick something I think would be neat and take it as far as I can

[weary gulch]

Hey for Stygian Lich does the roll of Ward per second and/or Chance to Apply doom/ignite make a big difference? Is there a cutoff I should look for? Got a 3lp but the rolls are pretty low 57 wps and 11% chance

[median pebble]

this is for ladle?

[median pebble]

doesnt

only implicit

[weary gulch]

I gues I can fix that with wov3en echo right? Just need another 3 lp to sacrifice

[median pebble]

which is decent on this item, so gz

yeah, but would not bother

[median pebble]

for potential 3 int and 26 necortic at best

[weary gulch]

i got 2 of em

and thanks for answering

[median pebble]

np, if you figure out how to kill uber with stygian lich without shatterd worlds, let me know 😄

[weary gulch]

:9

is this totally rng or will the roll always improve? I haven't used this one yet

[arctic turtle]

anyone know if "percent of missing health healed" from the aura of decay tree is considered regen? I'm thinkign it's not. My melee lich is going to use a 2h and i'm not sure which one yet, but I was thinking about using titan heart with it

[median pebble]

rng

[median pebble]

it is not worded as regen but testing would be good 😄

[weary gulch]

man guess I gotta respect my judge pally to timerot for ez uber? didnt know lich had it rough lol. prolly should check b4 hand

respec*

[median pebble]

i mean i just dont have hands for it but even then, it is not easy

and my gear is up there

[weary gulch]

So let's say u have a 3lp nihlis, what u are saying lich wouldn't be best choice...

still haven't slammed it

[median pebble]

i dont think you can run nihilis for uber without shattered worlds

[drifting idol]

it's been 15 harbingers now but i am not getting any harbinger eyes....

[median pebble]

you need acid skin for crit

[weary gulch]

I might never slam it, right now it's perfect because it's limitless potential, no disappointment no regrets

acid skin?

Javors what corruption u doing?

[median pebble]

acid skin gives +20% base crit

from my testing, without shattered worlds, this is better than nihilis because you cant get decent crit chance

[weary gulch]

for which build?

[median pebble]

stygian

[weary gulch]

hmm gotta update my filter, prolly passed up on so many of those ammies :\

should I stick with the planners exalted boots till I find more lp on boots?

[median pebble]

for mapping i dont even run those

i prefer crit damage reduction

for uber i run these

because cdr is big for damage uptime

[weary gulch]

roger

still new to this aco build and piecing it together

i guess multi LP on those boots is a pain in the ass to get? I got the gloves in 2lp a few times

boots only seen 1

[median pebble]

yeah, and i havent farmed them yet

belt is easy to get if you want a quick farm

[weary gulch]

We only want those boots for the +int?

is there better choice?

[median pebble]

pretty much yeah

belt and boots for int

twisted heart for inc life

[weary gulch]

his planner only hasa purple helm, is that really all there is for aspire? lol

[median pebble]

wut

nooo

this

[weary gulch]

the maxroll one

[median pebble]

nooooo

get the unique

easy to farm

[weary gulch]

omg

[median pebble]

more armor and dot dam mitigation is crazy good

[weary gulch]

i prolly had a billion of those drop, but they aint on my filter lol

[median pebble]

i have 4lp in my stash, still waiting for good double exalted 😄

[weary gulch]

imma farm that priotity now

[median pebble]

yeah, helm helps a lot with survivability

[weary gulch]

my only 4 lp kekw., if only io can get a way to apply chill. prolly not worth it though

hmm gonna imprint that skull helm

[median pebble]

only through 4lp ladle probably

these a good for the start for idols

[weary gulch]

ugh but i still need red rings so idk

shit lol

dont wanna lose imprint slot

[median pebble]

though for bis gear I believe shit ton of these

[weary gulch]

nice

[soft spire]

nah fading brink still crazy i can do 800 corruption and the 300 corruption im still dyin 7/8 / 10 jus to a random mistake

[weary gulch]

Are these harbinger weapons useful ? I didn't play since EA

what doesw that upgrade mean? Affixes upgrade?

I got it from weaver tree

should prolly ask in general instead of flooding here, srry

[median pebble]

isnt it just a chance to upgrade tiers/seal someting?

[weary gulch]

idk, haven't equipped them yet

[dawn echo]

Whats the best acolyte build for Uber and echos efficient clearing

Coming from Sentinel/Falconeer

[median pebble]

cant speak about necro

but i prefer stygian lich for mapping

compared to whiplock

for ubers, i suggest checking youtube videos for bis gear clears

though if someone hast torment, witchfire or ghostflame warlock uber kill videos please share

[pearl snow]

It changes the implicits

You can see it on LET but it adds an implicit

[pearl snow]

Maybe one day those will kill lmao

[soft spire]

im try and kill with stygian

[pearl snow]

Uber is Flame Whip or Stygian Lich.
Clear is Wraithlird

Stygian is more all rounded than Flame Whip and Wraithlord has the best clear but no Uber kills

[dawn echo]

Gotcha

Thanks

[kind forge]

nah you want this

well not that specifically

[sour hare]

Abom is the best build for everything because I like it the most

[kind forge]

you want second line to be health and the enchant to be ward/ward retention

i think

[sour hare]

Whichever build you you end up enjoying the most is going to be the one that you're going to get to the level where you can do everything

[kind forge]

i know the main idol is health/ward and health

idk about the green stats tho

[median pebble]

yes health is better as second, ward retention does nothing(?)

but they are really rare

at least six times as rare as red rings at least for me 😄

and at that point weaver idols might(?) be better

[autumn bough]

does anyone have a phd in infernal shade i have like 100 questions

[pearl snow]

I've got an associates

[jagged thistle]

for a full bleed build is eulogy better than taste?

[pearl snow]

depends if you proc a melee skill

[jagged thistle]

proc harvest

[pearl snow]

Eulogy is good for cb proc harvest because itll hasten your bleed

er taste

Eulopgy is better if you wanna lean into rip blood

[jagged thistle]

i have rip blood proc but its just to keep me topped up

im not familiar with axe mods can i get bleed phys pen?

oh youre a chaos bolt guy you know what im doing lol

im doing bleed bolt reaper

still unsure about my glove slot, maybe grasp of the blood mage

[jagged thistle]

i think i need a thorn slinger belt and either a grasp of the blood mage or a salt the wound

i have a decent chunk of crit multi

[weary gulch]

Hey for Stygian Lich Mad Ladle, the main thing I'm looking for is high spell damage right? does the other stuff matter?

[hollow ibex]

Hi all - anyone running shotgun lich and can help me figure out why my damage sucks? If you're damage is good can I compare items to you or maybe figure out if im pressing buttons wrong?

[pearl snow]

grasp is good, salt the wounds is good too

[pearl snow]

I think so, if not crit multi with salt the wounds

or phys pen

I was playing Lock for bleed

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ap4lR0JA ended up something liek this

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Warlock (93)

General:

▸ Health: 1,539, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 157.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 156%, Regen: 357/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 71 Dex / 51 Int / 3 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 130% / 95% / 95% / 126% / 120% / 476% / 137%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 308
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (284)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,818)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 24% (400)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Spirit Plague / Harvest

[jagged thistle]

im also using flayer cuz its amazing, and pearls, but i went lich for reaper pen and damage roid

its also a defensive layer

[soft spire]

this stygian lich build is meant for point and click movement

like if u hold down drain life it ramps so much faster and with wasd movement u cant really hold down qerf or whatever it was

[fading topaz]

why it seem Wraithlord build is more popular than Abomination build? 😵‍💫 🙏

[pearl snow]

it has way better monolith clear

[fading topaz]

how about Bossing tho🤔

[pearl snow]

Abom wins

Wraithlord cant uber

[fading topaz]

I am still wonder should I switch mastery, my Necro just cant face tanking the boss damage...

[pearl snow]

No acolyte can face tank

[fading topaz]

I know but Necro only can wait for the minion kill the boss, right?

[pearl snow]

Minion builds do be doing that

Though Abom slaps

[fading topaz]

maybe my build just need another health regen slam...

is this good enough for slamming ?

[pearl snow]

everything depends on your gear!

[obtuse quest]

Do you have Int, mana, and crit chance?

[obtuse quest]

It is not regen, it's considered healing.

[hollow ibex]

on char sheet, int is 151, spell crit 32%, mana 175

lvl 83 rn

[obtuse quest]

Your mana is horrible, way too low.

[hollow ibex]

theres no items in the guide that add mana and his video hes doing 20ks to uber abba

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/welcome-to-the-naughty-list---crit-stygian-coal-lich

[stuck owl]

Welcome to the Naughty List - Crit Stygian Coal Lich Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class

Acolyte / Lich

Used skills

• Rip Blood
• Transplant
• Drain Life
• Reaper Form
• Death Seal

Used unique items

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Stygian Coal
• Pearls of the Swine
• Grasp of the Blood Mage
• Orian's Descent
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer

Created by Lohk · Nov 2, 2024, 1:29 PM

[hollow ibex]

does mana add dmg? i dont have mana problems rlly

[obtuse quest]

Well I see he has 300+ mana which is an okay amount.

[obtuse quest]

Yes, read stygian coal.

[hollow ibex]

do u get mana when u level up

hows he increasing his mana without mana items?

[obtuse quest]

1 mana per level.

[hollow ibex]

i have the 151 int that he says (have 150+ int)

[obtuse quest]

But do you have that passive node?

[hollow ibex]

hmm

wait wheres that

[pearl snow]

warlock tree

[obtuse quest]

Warlock, 2nd column

[hollow ibex]

oh i didnt start putting poijnts in there at all yet

how do i get more mana tho?

inlike going off that guys build

he has no +mana items

[obtuse quest]

150 int= 150 mana because of that node.

[hollow ibex]

OH

lol

im so illiterate

[hollow ibex]

ok adding that put me at 320 mana

ty for that

[zinc jay]

Any ideas why sometimes i lose reaper form?

[vivid monolith]

...are you losing your health and dropping because of that? lol

[obtuse quest]

If you "die" you lose reaper form.
The other common way that happens is that you lost health and "died" because you casted too much while using Grasp of the Blood Mage.

[vivid monolith]

Lich drain ramps infinitely as well, does it not? So eventually, if you aren't constantly leeching, you will drop

[obtuse quest]

Yup, but unless you have a player skill issue you'll most likely keep it up during combat.

[vivid monolith]

Yes, but it is worth noting the ramp, which means between packs you end up having less and less time. If he's looting slowly or just dawdling, that'd explain it

[zinc jay]

Die means i take too much damage?

[zinc jay]

I didn't use grasp

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[obtuse quest]

Then you just 'died'.

[zinc jay]

I use lich envy gloves

[gritty cargo]

If you're in reaper form for a very long time the health drain reaches a point where the moment you stop leeching it near instantly removes the form

[zinc jay]

Ow ,now more clear , thx

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALp3pazA any suggestions for next upgrade?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (90)

General:

▸ Health: 2,615, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 173.87, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 278%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 12 Dex / 106 Int / 3 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 62% / 76% / 75% / 89% / 78% / 165% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 523
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,390)

Used skills:

Infernal Shade / Death Seal / Transplant / Reaper Form / Summon Volatile Zombie

[ivory gale]

anyone doing wheel of torment 1 button build in season 2?

[minor cedar]

I was thinking about it and pair it with damned becquse i really want to craft isandra for 30%damned penetration and 100% chance to apply damned

[ivory gale]

I'm almost there with my character and was wondering if someone is doing isadora's set bonus 😄

[obtuse quest]

Most of the people that use it currently use it mostly for the spell cost reduction, since damned by itself is not that good of an ailment

[minor cedar]

Why? Genuinely asking

[obtuse quest]

Damned is currently the 2nd lowest base damage ailment with a secondary effect that isn’t useful, and also a somewhat hard to stack it’s chance for high stack counts.

[minor cedar]

The first being?

Poison?

[obtuse quest]

Correct. Poison has a useful secondary effect but it’s base damage is so low it doesn’t save it from being bad.

Damned problem is 75% because of that you can’t stack it’s chance to apply high at all, when there’s ailments with higher base damage AND more chance stacking potential.

[minor cedar]

I see

But there is a node in soul harvest tree scaling %chance on intelligence (if memory serves)

[obtuse quest]

Does it scale to about 4-6 stacks per hit at the end result?

[minor cedar]

Obviously idk 😀

Was a rethorical question or you actually asking?

[obtuse quest]

If you can, there’s a chance, since most top end ailment setups hit the visual ailment cap against bosses (999+)

Both

3% chance per int, so 3 stacks per hit at 100 int

Seems decent

[minor cedar]

Y

[obtuse quest]

On the other hand, against bosses, a single chaos bolt cast with it’s damned chance node maxed can do the same thing against the boss at lower mana cost (100% chance x 4 projectiles), you would need about 133 int to match chance per hit, ignoring the mana difference.

[minor cedar]

Lemme watch that tree

[obtuse quest]

If you have the chance to damned on helm, it’s also worth 4 times on chaos bolt compared to soul feast.

[minor cedar]

Ok i watched chaos bolts tree

Why is so much better?

[obtuse quest]

4 projectiles= 4 hits= any chance to hit effect is also multiplied 4 times.

[minor cedar]

Because they can hit same target shotgunning?

[obtuse quest]

If you have generic 200% chance to damned, each cast of chaos bolt is 8 stacks on a boss.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[minor cedar]

Ahh that makes a difference

Well ty

[obtuse quest]

Since the hit is an explosion

[minor cedar]

Maybe i cook something with bolts then

I mean, sticking with damned 😀

[lost gale]

if you're going damned you really want to be in on pyre of affliction, ashes of mortality and so on

[gritty cargo]

You have a lot of skill points in necrotic flat and necrotic pen and stuff and you have fire build

[lost gale]

use maehlin's hubris to turn bleeds into ignites, self inflict bleeds with spirit plague, which become ignites. Turn that into a lot of ward generation and a lot of self-damned stacks with pyre of affliction & ashes of mortality & the warlock end of tree passive and you can get giga necrotic pen for damned if you can avoid killing yourself with high double digits to triple digits of damned on self with a lot of + duration.

[zinc jay]

And how to fix it

[lost gale]

I can't imagine that one cycle of putrescence is correct. Pretty sure it's either zero or two, one just doesn't produce enough zombies/shades etc

[zinc jay]

Ii Idk , that's why ask for advice

[lost gale]

with one ring you have a 100% chance to one zombie, 50% chance for the second, 33% chance for the third etc.

Two rings is 200/100/66/50/40/33. Much better zombie numbers in practice. Pretty mana intensive tho. IDK if the marked for death is worth it or not

Legion in the shades tree doesn't work with the Zombie on-death proc afaik

Do you actually have many vanguards spawning with just the 5% from the lich passive tree? AFAICT vanguards are the only minions which do anything with the 30% chance to spawn a zombie on minion death nodes that you're actually using

that node is amazing for generating zombies if you're sacrificing skeletons but it doesn't trigger off zombies or corpse parasites

[zinc jay]

5% well, never seen 1

[lost gale]

they probably get killed by your shades super fast

it's 5% on kill and you have a 30% chance for a zombie from that so you're talking about maybe one extra zombie per 300 enemies killed

and that's only killed by you. If you get the 16% kill threshold on zombies, as I'd suggest you do, then your zombies will actually killsteal quite a bit

even tho you're not a minion build

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dXwL8A like this passive better?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 4,092, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 179.68, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 273%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 17 Dex / 109 Int / 7 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 62% / 62% / 62% / 59% / 65% / 177% / 57%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 818
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 42% (2,431)

Used skills:

Summon Volatile Zombie / Reaper Form / Infernal Shade / Death Seal / Transplant

[gritty cargo]

Is the crit chance on the infernal shade explosion 100%

[zinc jay]

How to check

Critical strike chance ?

[lost gale]

on that planner it's 72% spell crit

[gritty cargo]

Idk Im just a fan of snapshot so I look for reason to run unspec transplant and aura bone curse with acid skin snapshot with swine

[lost gale]

410 ish multi

idk if this build can afford the mana for aura bone curse

[lost gale]

with your typical gameplay how much are you self casting infernal shade?

[zinc jay]

Like 3/4 max what i see

[lost gale]

oh okay, mostly on corpse parasites?

[zinc jay]

My idols sucks, haven't found anything else

[lost gale]

seems like you're relying on them for crit reduction a lot

so I wouldn't race to replace them unless you get that sorted

[zinc jay]

Well i have 11% crit reduction

Not working

[lost gale]

oh im looking at the new planner rather than your actual one

i see

[zinc jay]

Yea

[obtuse quest]

If you meant "Is it by default?", no.

[lost gale]

i'm kinda surprised you have enough minions to really need cast speed with Legion

[gritty cargo]

No

[zinc jay]

When its crit i have like x5 dps

At least

[obtuse quest]

Ah you meant their build then

[zinc jay]

But mostly this is not the case

[lost gale]

self curse acid skin with 11% crit reduction would be an exercise in frustration

I think awakening presence in the zombies tree is doing nothing at all for you

[gritty cargo]

I normally never use reap so I don't have reap nodes spec in the reaper but if it increases move speed it's good?

Maybe it's worthwhile taking 2% move speed off that travel node and putting it in the 3/4 crit node for the 25% crit chance

[lost gale]

idk if the flat necrotic on the lich tree is any good

[obtuse quest]

If you have 4 points to spare, you can turn reap into a very good movement skill, and can still let you use another movement skill along for high speeds.

Double traversal is very good.

[zinc jay]

Check it, always have 3 internal shade

[arctic turtle]

if a dot kills something, is it only the tick of the dot that does the murder considered for overkill or the entire dot? i'm pretty sure it's just the tick, but never know

[obtuse quest]

Only the tick.

[minor cedar]

Ty sir

[lost gale]

A single low life gloves mod of T1 or T2 makes leech absolutely goated btw

[old hull]

As acolyte, can't you just put 1 passive into a health drained per second node?

[lost gale]

Yeah I guess so

The effect it has is that while such a drain is active you can never hit 100% hp so your leeches don't end and need to be rebuilt after taking damage.

Your health will just shoot straight back up without delay if you've been DPSing at full life

[kindred olive]

guys question

is stygian coal lich uberroth viable

for someone with half a braincell

[obtuse quest]

It will technically drop the next tick for that instance if you ever touch 100%hp, but the rest wuill

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[obtuse quest]

Debatable.

[kindred olive]

for reference the only character i've managed uberroth so far is a timerot vk

[median pebble]

i have a quarter of a braincell and managed to kill it, so yes

[kindred olive]

is it auto aim? it looks like auto aim

[median pebble]

kind of

if you start running around it will start firing in all directions

for optimal damage you either have to be close or be attacking with other skills

[soft spire]

ye u gotta be like inside of the boss

but the keybinds are weird cause u have to hold down rip blood and drain life at the same time while pressing other keybinds which is why im like its a point to click movement build unless u can find suitable keybinds on wasd

[kindred olive]

i was kind of hoping for a controller friendly build

i guess i could bind those on triggers and make it work

[median pebble]

yeah you need to buttons pressed down and aim

you rip blood somewhere to the side of the boss, stygians will try to aim to the new spot

it is weird tbh

[soft spire]

fading brink wit dis build is insane

u get 1 tapped out of reaper form ur basically dead unless its cus i dont have cdr on boots yet

[median pebble]

if you lose reaper form, you go full dodge mode 😄

[obtuse quest]

If you got kicked out of reaper form you basically died once

[soft spire]

nah like am i getting bugged

I keep fighting 2 harbingers at once

[obtuse quest]

Uberroth's fight is affected by your monolith modifiers, in case that matters.

[soft spire]

nah its fading brink

[obtuse quest]

Oh, those are affected by your monolith modifiers too, and apprently also add on their own damage and health multiplier on top of corruption's.

[soft spire]

ye holy smokes that was hard af

I had at least 30 attempts because of the stupid harbingers that do the slicing attack

[weary gulch]

Hey is Wall of nothing viable chest for lich build? Had one drop with 2 lp while hunting for null portent

Stygian Lich(

[autumn bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOZQ1SsWpos uber kill 3 min, couldve been 2 min with better play, still learining the build, no uber uniques/double t7s

[vivid monolith]

Wall gives the % chance to not take a hit which is nice, but part of the stats are bonuses to ward which is a bit wasted with death seal...

[brave ocean]

Why is the mapping not as good with it? The aoe coverage of fire seems wide. Does the damage rely on stacking many shades?

[autumn bough]

its not bad, but sometimes a bit clunky

since you need your zombos to run up

[brave ocean]

i see

that HP pool is enormous

6k + 10k ward

[autumn bough]

the dps is even more enormous i played really badly u could see how i one tapped his phase 3 into phase 4

ideally u do that on every phase

[autumn bough]

its not just hp, build has 14 K ARMOR and 50% armor to dots

its insane

hahah

[wintry flame]

It's been solved

Infernal Shade Necro 🙏

[autumn bough]

😏

NECRO MAINS RIZE UP and with minion fix in s3 SURELY COPIUM

[wintry flame]

@autumn bough on a generational run with the uber kills 😮

[autumn bough]

will be even better

[autumn bough]

hahah half of my cooks like that, its just optimal in LE, Mikes VISION of generator spender

[brave ocean]

thats the tankiest build ive seen barring egregiously bugged stuff

[wintry flame]

I played hellfire when you could get infinite shades it was hilarious in arena since shades went to spawns and stayed there from shade on kill ghostmaker 😛

shit was hilarious, but this ramps harder. @autumn bough did you confirm that sac node DoT buff was multi?

[autumn bough]

oh i didnt bother properly testing since i can grab everything anyways

will do later

[brave ocean]

if you ever post a mapping demo id love to see it

curious what it lookslik

[autumn bough]

https://youtu.be/mhq0TWrJYZE early cook, maybe ill find imporvement i swithced 2 nodes on shade tree put it on bar to manually cast with 1.3 sec cd and switched to cdr belt

[brave ocean]

the goofy outdated zombie running animations always looks funny

but i see what you mean, the zombies have to run to enemies, the damage is over time and it seems its fairly resource intensive

[autumn bough]

resources is whatever cause u can always spam rip blood

and ye u need to manually infernal shade if zombos too slow

[autumn bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gCO7jgvns here more or less final version unless some new tech comes up, experimental boots make it much better

[soft spire]

what LP average u guys kill uber abby with?

I have 2 on wep and offhand but everything else 1 and my best is 78% so theoretically could get it to 60 cus no shield but still

stygian lich tho

[autumn bough]

i personally follow maxroll benchamarks: no uber items, no double exlated items, no LP items with over 1/100 chance

ofc the more gear u have the easier kills gets

[pearl snow]

Ethical gamer

[soft spire]

ive seen a few stygians kill uber but they already have uber gear

[autumn bough]

stygian kills it without but if u get uber relic it gets way easier iirc

[pearl snow]

^

[autumn bough]

OP relic

[soft spire]

maybe im missing some stuff idk

following maxroll aspirational equipment and guide

[autumn bough]

well its also not the easiest kill u need to play good

do mechanics, place lasers dont touch balls etc

[pearl snow]

Bleed Lock is calling my name back lmao

[soft spire]

ye ik but my damage low first slam its like 80% health 80% shield or lower if i dont bug it

[vivid monolith]

do it

[soft spire]

dont know if intentional but bugs if u dash into it and the beam hits u or whatever he doesnt do the slam at first

[autumn bough]

thats more than enough dmg for uber, not low

if anything thats more than 99% of builds on same endgame budget

🤣

[soft spire]

ground of destruction jus aids mechanic

[autumn bough]

teleport when he rizes up

ez

acolyte is so unethical hahaah getting 10k hp+15k ward with double t7 gears

[calm dome]

perfect level and crit multi rolls. flat spell low but w.e

I hope the turtle is kind to me

[soft spire]

it was cdr i needed on boots i instantly beat my best attempt

cause u can go back into reaper form

i also got the decaying skull helm and followin lastepochtools guide now

[autumn bough]

can u cap crit with decayed skull?

sounds monka

[soft spire]

didnt read build as much but they use pearls of swine for crit afaik

ffs tho I missed my 3LP pearls armor shred

had T5 armor shred 😔

[autumn bough]

hehe

[pearl snow]

beeg number

Okay given up on Witchfire doing uber lmao. I tried at least

[calm dome]

Turtle was not kind and made my near perfect roll spine into LP0

I just hope Nemesis will be kind to me

[autumn bough]

What about 265 mil now

🙂

same gear, just perfectly performed combo

[pearl snow]

insane

[brave ocean]

im surprised that there was only one 3 lp ghost maker on market

well actually now that im seeing its 1/30k it makes sense

[autumn bough]

3lp kinda useless sadly

u mostly want 2lp with t7 speed+pen

all u can get is % inc dmg for 3lp

i mean mana would be nice tbh for some regen hahaha

[empty kite]

Is it even worth building defenses for uber abberoth fight? Or any damage is one shot anyway and better go full glass cannon?

[obtuse quest]

Iirc enough defenses turn it into 2-3 shots instead of one, so it's a matter of breakpoints.

[warped steppe]

Hi folks - I am trying to build a Skeletal Mage build that can take on uber aberroth. Did anyone here do that? Because currently it seems quite impossible. They just die at slam no matter how much minion health I snapshot

[remote dome]

I wanted to give stygian coal lich a try, noticed there were some varieties. Anyone who can recommend one over the other?

[obtuse quest]

Crit

[obtuse quest]

Nope, considering profane skeletal mage can't hit that high of a corruption, no.

[median pebble]

there is more than one variant?

[obtuse quest]

I know there's the poison variant

[warped steppe]

What is high corruption? I am doing just fine at 500 - the mages don't die here. Not even close 🙂
They didn't even die in a T4 Julra explosion.

[obtuse quest]

1k+ corruption.
Uberroth, by comparison, has health equal to the abomination boss' health, at 24k corruption.

[warped steppe]

Ok - well it's not really it's health that is the issue. Once the minions can survive the slam I'm pretty sure it'll go down. But thanks for the info

[old hull]

If you can just resummon the mage when it dies then it doesn't matter when it gets killed

Snapshotting is gross

[north lance]

I found my sweetheart, but I haven't Mortality's Grasp 4lp

[obtuse quest]

Oh jesus that’s disgusting

[fleet elk]

Anyone playing Infernal Shade necro and can help with a few questions? Dread Shade skill tree is really confusing me...

[autumn bough]

what build are u follwoing?

i posted a showcase of it yrday with uber kill, OP build

[fleet elk]

Exactly your build ❤️

I saw it on reddit and I thought it looks cool

[autumn bough]

hmm what are u confused about on shade?

[fleet elk]

I assembled the character, a low-life version, with exsanguinous, last steps, boneclamor barbute and some exalted life lost gloves that I managed to craft the set on

[autumn bough]

oh def go life not LL, its not worth imo way squishier with like 10% more dmg

but LL is ok too

[fleet elk]

what confuses me on Dread Shade is why are you taking the node that buffs minions OUTSIDE the area, along with the node that sets the shade on minions?

[fleet elk]

I actually don't have lvl 80 yet for Twisted Heart, was gonna test that too once I get lvl 80

the thing is my minions and myself are always inside the area, because it's so huge, at least on mapping

[autumn bough]

with life i have 6k hp+10k ward, immortal build and with doublt t7 items its 10k hp+15k ward

[autumn bough]

dread shade buffs are ONLY for you, minions are irrelivant on the build, they are proc machines, putting shade on enemy allows 100% uptime on all buffs, if you put on minion itll die and shade dissapear, the outer range garantees buff easier since all u need to do is not to get too close to enemy

it gives 60%-120% more dmg to you and 24-48% cast speed and 10k armor, insane buffer

[fleet elk]

but if I play badly and find myself inside the area, I should just remove that node that buffs outside?

[autumn bough]

itll be even harder without that node since you will always need to be close to enemies

in monos you can just put 2 shades on different enemies which will make it much easier

on bosses just step outside of circle and u good

[fleet elk]

Okay. What about mana? I'm spamming rip blood all the time, but I feel like at times my dmg is hindered by not having enough mana, when I get some chain procs, I feel like I am stopping the chain when I get out of mana. Should I focus getting some mana pool?

[autumn bough]

be sure to take exactly same zombi tree as i do, i take only 2 pts into sacrifice proc node to mitigate mana , and stacking cast speed is main source of mana sustain, get the LP dagger with cast speed

maintining buff from dread shade also gives a lot of cast speed

more mana pool wont help, focus on speed

OOH also huge tip for mana, use SET gloves not set affix, literally set gloves

itll trivialize mana

[fleet elk]

I have all that. Got the exact tree, cast speed on the dagger. I'm probably not good at maintaining the dread shade buff, as I find myself inside the circle a lot of the time.

[autumn bough]

then you dont cast rip blood enough ig, i just hold the button 99% of the time, with spell quing, u can see on my vid how i put skills in sequence on the bar to abuse spell que

[fleet elk]

Ok. I'll try spamming more, get cast speed on my focus too and try the set gloves.

Thanks a lot, it's a really cool build!

[autumn bough]

with set gloves main roll is -14 infernal shade cost to make it 0

[ancient jewel]

In the chaos bolt skill there is a node that proc harvest and it says "Chaos bolt hits have a chance per Dexterity to cause you to attack with harvest". I was wondering if the affix on Death's embrace the scythe (for harvest) will count for that node ?

The affix on Death's Embrace says "Gain a stack when u use harvest". Using harvest means a direct cast of the skill ?

[pearl snow]

It should give you a stack. It has to say Direct Cast for it to be manually pressed

Unless the wording for that node in particular is inconsistent with everything else. But it should give stacks

[autumn bough]

last time i tested it was only on direct use

in 1.1

its still worth, best harvest build is on warlock where u manually spam+fissure procs

and go LL with all ward on hit

[pearl snow]

Sadge

I swear I was gaining stacks last time I used it but my last build with that node was such a clown show

[ancient jewel]

sadge

[calm dome]

Do imprinted uniques always drop at the same LP?

Been getting the same 1LP Spine. Only difference is affix rolls

[empty kite]

No, can drop with less, can drop with more

[lost gale]

what do you mean by skill queueing? How does the order of skills on the bar matter?

[autumn bough]

skills que by prio from left to right if you hold 2 skills at the same time you will always cast the left one if possible, i hold my 4th skill on the bar with least prio so every time i press any other button i cast other skill and spam pressed skill all the time

[lost gale]

as it happens I have a 3lp cycle of putresence, suggestions for a third slam?

for your shades build

[autumn bough]

mana regen, int, hp+regen

[astral viper]

Could I ask you guys for some advice on farming priority for my lich, below? As a family man I don't have tons of time for playing, so I'm trying to figure out what will build power most per play time:

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Starbrow/character/Starbrow

Goals that I have in mind, but can't figure out priority of, are:

• Level 100 for the last 3 passives
• Get to Aberroth for neck upgrade (at 275 C now)
• Farm better head/armor through nemesis (in Weaver towers?)
• More LP on Boots/Relic/Gloves
• More LP on Wand/Coal
• Generally get to higher corruption (at 275 now)
• Finish weaver progression and change the tree, maybe?

And on top of this I'm sure there something I'm missing

[median pebble]

i can try to give you some tips

are you sure wrongwarp is better then mad alchemist ladle?

cast speel doesnt work for stygian beams as far as i know and I am doubtful if inc spell damage is better then more damage from ladle

i do not recommend nihilis without shattered worlds

you will not have enough crit chance

from aberroth i would suggest null portent chest and switch to nihilis after uber aberoth drops shattered worlds

i would also suggest getting 2 red rings, imo with imprinting and acendancy runes and prohecies they are not bad to farm

[pearl snow]

2 red rings on his schedule may take a long time

If its roughly 750k Favor per CoF ring drop

[median pebble]

huh

that is either wrong with imprinting or I got really lucky

[pearl snow]

Imprinting can help but you gotta get 1 first

[median pebble]

also I really recommend this helm

[pearl snow]

His current helm does SLAP, but agree decayed is great

[median pebble]

first you get with runes imo, faster

[pearl snow]

The rune chance on RR is so low

[median pebble]

eh you might be right, I might as well got really lucky

[astral viper]

I'm pushing all runes of ascendance into rings

[pearl snow]

IMO the Mad Alchemist Ladel is better. That change also opens you up for exalted boots that may help cap crit avoidance or reduction.
Although your current wrongwarp with giga movespeed is a good choice. Ultimately “more” spell damage and cast speed as said by Ardol is more efficient

[astral viper]

and all my favor too

[pearl snow]

If you only dedicate to RR hunting, yes you can get one somewhat early

But the drop chance is still insanely low

Nihilis isn’t a bad idea as you are CoF and combined with the big stat stick of health that is your twisted heart. You just wanna make sure the Nihilis rolls quite well

I’d say you understand your situation and goals make sense

While hunting that ladel you can also hunt the +Drain life chest

Due to weaver tree with the Mages nodes

So thats pretty optimal

“Opulent Usurpers” top of the Weaver tree etc

[astral viper]

I have two ladles, one with 50% cast speed slam, one with 170 % spell damage slam

I just had the feeling that the much bigger flat +spell from wrongwarp, combined with the speed scaling made that weapon better for now

but I haven't tested it on dummies to be fair

[pearl snow]

Ideally it’s double crit on ladel I think. But the spell dmg is good too

Wrongwarp may feel better because you have T7 slammed boots

But I think you can change the boots out for more total defensives while potentially increasing your dmg down the line

Boots can roll Hp, Cooldown recovery and the Citadel boots have Crit dmg reduction as an implicit. Not to mention more Int in a prefix

Pair that with another roll of crit dmg reduction instead of avoid. And you get more armor which is more DR. And ladel multiplies your dmg output instead of adding to it

Your spell crit before that Uber relic. Let’s say you never get it because thats the reasonable idea.
Can be pitentially aided by sealed off or just the prefix of Crit Chance on your chest + helm

In addition spell crit on a ladel yada yada

The Maxroll Guide has a great example of Chest / Helm / boots setup that isn’t too impossible

Especially if you imprint a helmet or chest with the shared crit

Okay that’s all I got for a word dump

[astral viper]

thanks 🙂

I'd overlooked the +skill affix node between the exiled mage nodes in the weaver tree, and that makes a lot of sense for hunting a +4 drain life chest

[obtuse quest]

Cast speed is mostly for rip blood spam

[small pebble]

Yo guys i have a question. Is there a planned acolyte rework for the next season? I saw a reddit thread some weeks ago but i dont know if thats actually confirmed by the devs

[obtuse quest]

1.3 is mostly confirmed that lich is getting a change. No details nor if necromancer is also getting changes.

[warped steppe]

Would love for my skeletal mages to be able to live through Abby's slam 🙂

[obtuse quest]

Not even wraithlord could live through it right now, so that's a tall order.

[zinc jay]

How its possible 🤣

[astral viper]

I finally reached rank 12 CoF and have just spent about 150k favor on ring prophecies.... fingers crossed that red ring is in there somewhere!

this was one boss kill later:

oh my god, one exiled mage prophecy proc and...

[astral viper]

Sorry to gush all over here, but it's the first red ring I ever see myself in this game xD

[old hull]

Congrats!

[mortal swift]

does going to the observatory despawn my abomination?

[astral viper]

... also, imprinting is such a broken mechanic. Not an hour has passed and this just happened:

Yet for the life of me imprinting won't give me anything remotely close to exalted items I imprint

like, who on earth tested this mechanic and figured "yeah, this seems to work as intended"

[old hull]

Yes, it will trigger a resummon on any official zone change. Abom remembers the minions it ate, but not the stats you had when you summoned it.

[kind forge]

your just lucky and unlucky ... even imprinted i almost never see red rings

i have 2 in total rn

and the exalted side is working fine

[fleet elk]

I've been imprinting red rings for 2 weeks and yesterday was the first one I've seen drop from imprinting..

[autumn bough]

mike confirmed today that necro and lich both are two masteries that will get the most rework in s3 including passive tree changes and a bunch of threshold bonuses

[old hull]

also some cold conversions probably

[soft spire]

oo nice to know now im jus playing sentinel and gonna es vk for uber cus im bad then use shattered worlds on my Stygian lich lmao

could’ve tried with armor shred on neck but didn’t wanna die for hours and I’ve got a decent grip on the fight so learning it on es vk shouldn’t be too hard

[obtuse quest]

Oh nice necro cfmed

[north lance]

You make me want to postpone playing my Lich character again

🦎

[north lance]

Now we can swap mastery, right? There's a guy inviting me to level a warlock and then switch mastery to Lich

[lost gale]

fissure is pretty sweet for levelling

[marble palm]

Insane gear on an offline character

[zinc jay]

Its not even possible 😔

[marble palm]

I have no idea if it is possible, it likely is “possible”, but the gear needed would have to be unrealistic

[zinc jay]

Correct

https://youtu.be/Y6kF7Kcebgs?si=qO0yeOeiKZLvEV4K

His dps isn't impressive 3,33m to kill uber

[fallow granite]

hey, has anyone tried a pure summon skeletal mage build? can the skeletal mages survive high corruptions bosses? and what about dps for uber abberoth?

[obtuse quest]

The closest is profane oblation skeletal mage.

Other than abom, no other minion build has cleared uberroth. Last I heard someone trying to play skeletal mages against uberroth the mages get consistently one shotted even with snapshotting.

[fallow granite]

ah ok, thank you!

[tribal yoke]

yummy

[autumn bough]

i have a build that with double t7 items has 10400 hp and 15k ward and kills dummy in 14 sec, so def possible on some builds

😏

[north lance]

No Witchfire, no wrongwarp im poor

Damn it, if they rework the Lich passive, my leech health convert damage build might be completely ruined too😭

[celest steeple]

For a low life Warlock, is Health or Necrotic Resistance better for ward generation, assuming you're wearing Boneclamor Barbute

Health gives more raw ward per sec but necro res gives some ward per second and threshold

[obtuse quest]

Idealy, you just take both.

[north lance]

Why choose when I can have both?🤦‍♀️

[ancient jewel]

Question with harvest node on chaos bolt if I hit with chaos bolt and harvest proc will the harvest hit count as melee or spell ?

[old hull]

Harvest is always melee

[ancient jewel]

So even if the node proc from afar which isn't melee it still count as melee hit because it's a melee skill nice. If it applies to every single skill node in other skill tree that's a really cool system !

[old hull]

The harvest procced by chaos bolts is affected by your harvest skill tree, but not your chaos bolts skill tree

[ancient jewel]

So hypothetically if I increase the harvest area node inside the harvest tree. It will damage in a wider area causing it to deal more damage per proc if multiple target are close enough to each other that is neat.

[old hull]

Yeah, exactly 😁
Even that node that builds up spirit shards to refund mana at 13 stack works

[ancient jewel]

Oh so there might really be a decent build that utilize harvest by casting chaos bolt only. I'mma try to do something with it. I hope it will have a faster clearing pace than harvest (death embrace) build.

[celest steeple]

This is for slamming and with my suffix slots being crowded which would you pick if you could only pick one?

[obtuse quest]

Health.

[celest steeple]

Ty 🙏

Got a pile of 2-3 LPs for a lowlife build and don't wanna waste em. Gonna try Witchfire, actually haha. Still ironing out the build.

[lost gale]

#1210289045310017536 message
send thumbs up pls ailment bros/broettes

[median pebble]

another way that might work for single stack dots is a strong single target spell that could be spec'ed to scale with inc dot or chance to apply ailment

something like witchfire scales from chance to apply ignite/damned

[lost gale]

yeah, maybe on transplant you could have a node which adds tons and tons of ailment damage to transplant explosions based on all your various global chance to apply ailment stats.

It's basically impossible to exploit for stacking ailments because of the cooldown, the essential utility as a travel skill means you wouldn't want to rely on it for your ailment application for bossing but for just doing monos you can jump on a pack and there's spreading flames & plague wrecking them. Also add a chance to apply spirit plague on hit affix to acolyte chests

[median pebble]

yeah or to prevent exploitation you would remove the ailments on hit so it would work as a nuke

if single stack ailments dont get any sort of single target support from other skills they will never be viable end game single target or they have to be absurdly busted

[lost gale]

the Javelin skill tree that people are using for time rot is just shy of a 12x multiplier to ailments applied by the hit.

I don't think that's enough to make a Javelin/Firestarter's Torch spreading flames build actually good as things stand

time rot has its own prolif on death anyway, so the appeal of something like that is limited considering the truly absurd dps of time rot

[median pebble]

poe kind of had a way that made sense for dot single target a few years ago

you would use poe version of spirit plague for clear and for single target you used something like ghostflame that scaled from dot damage

[lost gale]

I thought the clear skill was more like hungering souls than spirit plague

can't remember the name of it tho

you're talking about the chaos non-ailment DOT stuff right?

[median pebble]

it was essend drain for clear and wither for single target support

yes

the one like hungering souls is soul rend

[vivid monolith]

Afaik time rot jav clear is pretty meh compared to the other options VK has (which, admittedly, is comparing it to a VERY high bar) but I think that's more the applicator and not the DoT itself that is limiting, idk

If rot wasn't capable of killing uber from his first phase to zero before he reacts in any way, perhaps there could be more interesting things there

[versed sedge]

Anyone can recommend me a good warlock build this season? Already burned through sentinel and primalist builds lol

[pearl snow]

Witchfire or Torment for lock

[north lance]

No Witchfire with me

Is there a clip of farming Lich Stygian Coal echo at 2k+ corruption or higher, guys?

[empty kite]

I got to 1200 corruption with flame whip warlock (can go more, just didn't bother yet), can recommend, pretty nice

[sly zodiac]

best i can do is a lich using reaper form with chaos bolts

[obtuse quest]

That's not a warlock build-

[dusty token]

is that good for witchfire?

[pearl snow]

Its decent, I feel like with Calamity on it should go a bit higher

a) Ignite & damned relics are probably more dmg
B) do you have damned chance on chest & helm

If you go super offensive Witchfire can go up to 1mil on dummies

Also what is Mr. Bone Golem doing on your bar

[dusty token]

oh yes. I'm looking for 3LPs to maintain life and armor.

hahaah golem is for decoy for nemesis and mages.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4bnxjlA

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Warlock (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,462, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 287.22, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 248%, Regen: 154/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 49 Int / 4 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 77% / 92% / 94% / 56% / 165% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 692
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,534)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chthonic Fissure / Chaos Bolts / Rip Blood

[dusty token]

this glove Atrophy gives much damage.

[pearl snow]

Yeah Atrophy is quite good

[dusty token]

thinking about low life. but the ward thing is not working yet

searching for ward on helmet, armor and catalyst. then I'll try low life

[obtuse quest]

Low life wouldn't work as long as you wear the witchfire relic, unless you take hollow lich.

[dusty token]

yes. that node

[pearl snow]

If you go low life I’d use Profane Veil honestly

[dusty token]

oh yes. I'll dump rip blood

[crimson trench]

ive been trying to cook witchfire too, new to acolyte though mainly play shaman https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkqNNRbo

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (20) / Warlock (73)

General:

▸ Health: 3,266, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 227.51, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 376%, Regen: 133/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 95 Int / 5 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 147% / 72% / 77% / 90% / 76% / 171% / 134%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,092)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Bone Curse / Profane Veil / Transplant

[crimson trench]

i feel like with all the leech low life is not worth it?

[obtuse quest]

Isadora's 2 set bonus doesn't apply to witchfire.

And there's a better mace base to use:

[crimson trench]

isn't it good to get damned overload faster?

i guess atrophy is better then

[obtuse quest]

That's about it. Normally chaos bolts would handle that pretty easily anyway in 3-4 casts.

[dusty token]

best weapon for witchfire so far with curse damage.

[obtuse quest]

Weapon? Isadora's set doesn't have a weapon piece.

[dusty token]

I mean the hammer

mine for now

[obtuse quest]

Oh, yeah I'm telling them to use the hammer, they're using the poison mace rn.

[dusty token]

isadora set so good, but doesn't work. sadly

and there's no affix good for sinathia shield. minion I think.

[crimson trench]

i had poison mace before i realized how much the tree naturally gives, fire pen looks good

[dusty token]

I' ll try someday for 6 skill points

[obtuse quest]

6? You won't be using a minion.

[dusty token]

the set for sinathia gives 2 skill points for curse skill. I'm usind 3 curses.

so I'would waste an affix for these point. I have to check first. didn't think much about it

[obtuse quest]

Oh

[white robin]

sinathia shield is good for curse cast speed to machinegun trigger profane orbs

which makes for more bone curse triggers

[dusty token]

only this affix

[white robin]

yeah i mean the shield, not the affix shard

[obtuse quest]

Oh lmao the main shield

[white robin]

yeah most of the stats on it are junk for non-minion builds but curse cast speed is rare

[obtuse quest]

But profane orb works with generic cast speed.