💀┃acolyte

[opal ore]

Yes, just re-snapshot by equipping snapshot gear (its not as bad as people make it out to be, takes 5 seconds to right click the snapshotting gear)

[old hull]

Really? With how high of corruption he's running, doesn't he have enough dps to just speed rush him down?

[thorn grove]

is abomination better than wraithlord for single target without snapshotting?

[old hull]

Yes

[opal ore]

You'll probably hear in some videos that wraithlord is just a worse abomination

[thorn grove]

wraithlord's gotta be better for echos than abomination, cant imagine that hulk is very fast at clear

actually its attacks are prolly aoe...

[opal ore]

Clear was an issue before but by using Plague idols it becomes actually decently fast

[opal ore]

The swipes are huge, yep.

[thorn grove]

is it phys dmg?

doesnt matter at that number but i'm curious

[opal ore]

The swipe skill itself is necrotic

but plague idols will clear screens away from you no problem, only thing that would survive would be champions/mages/nemesis, which will get 1 hit by your abom

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord is better at clear, but abom's raw power is not be to underestimated.

[thorn grove]

abomination looks less cool

[opal ore]

What do you mean, abomination has bodies sticking out of him and random limbs everywhere, that's pretty cool

[thorn grove]

fair

but wraithlord would wear a pair of sunglasses better

[zinc jay]

Does ignite damage and ignite chance good thing to warlock?

And what kind rings need

[obtuse quest]

If you want to play ignite, yeah.

[zinc jay]

Does its good thing?

[slow fossil]

Does anyone run Warlock here? Just wondering how my build fares up to others

[obtuse quest]

We got witchfire experts.

[zinc jay]

Yea i just finished campaign and going into empowered currently

[obtuse quest]

It depends on the kind of warlock you want to play.

[zinc jay]

Have no idea

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/lja4c000

Im thinking about like that

[obtuse quest]

I honestly don't even know what that is.

[zinc jay]

Kinda my planning on gear

[slow fossil]

I meant more skill usage. Personally I run Chthonic Fissure, Chaos Bolts, Volitile Zombie, Infernal Shade, Aura of Decay.

[zinc jay]

Does its have Synergy all together?

I have this belt 25% intelligence and 26% health will be added soon

[obtuse quest]

Skill setup depends on build style, so your mileage may vary.

[zinc jay]

And helmet ward for overcapped necro resistance looks cool

[slow fossil]

Gotcha

[obtuse quest]

I don't know why zombie is there unless it's a infernal shade sender, and Aura of Decay is a peepeepoopoo skill

[obtuse quest]

All I see is DoT synergy.

[zinc jay]

Yea

Dot ,fire damage

Intelligence

Can be good? What you think @obtuse quest

[obtuse quest]

But I see DoT, fire, and necrotic.

[slow fossil]

Chthonic Fissure procs zombie, zombie procs infernal shade. Aura of Decay is mostly because of poison build up

[zinc jay]

Yea

[obtuse quest]

So zombies are a infernal shade vehicle, sure that works.

Aura of Decay's poison buildup is pretty ass comapred to an actual poison skill, and it hurts yourself as well. (Why are you running both ignite and poison?)

[obtuse quest]

Ehhh, it can work if you know what to focus on.

[zinc jay]

I just raised from yesterday warlock from lvl 1 into 68 right now

Gameplay really fun thou

[zinc jay]

Yea im not sure 100% what i do , but seems can be good

[slow fossil]

Because I am mainly scaling damage overtime

And I get 3 overloads

[obtuse quest]

That sounds like a possible bad time if you split yourself with more than 2 damage types. (And on another hand, poison sucks.)

There's a decent chance that your build runs better by just not using Aura of Decay, because of how much it cuts into your defenses.

[slow fossil]

What would I run instead? Plus I have the -20% poison dmg taken and +60% poison res from it

This is all its doing

[obtuse quest]

Run a defensive skill or spec into a movement skill instead.

Exactly, Without the -20% damage taken and +60% poison res, you'll be dying to itself. It's basically required nodes. You also aren't even running it's best node, the % missing hp healing.

Aura of Decay, hilariously, is the strongest in builds that don't care about poison damage.

[slow fossil]

I dont use healing, I go ward

[obtuse quest]

That would explain it.

Then yeah AoD sucks even more since it'll hurt your ward gen and you can't even recover it using itself.

[slow fossil]

What do you mean?

[obtuse quest]

In a health setup, you can counteract AoD's self poison by also using the missing health heal node so you effectively take less damage to it.

In a ward setup, you basically can't do that and are forced to get more ward gen from other stuff.

The amount of defense you have to build because you're using AoD is not worth the 'reward' of AoD's pitiful damage output.

[slow fossil]

hmm, what would you recommend I replace it with?

[obtuse quest]

Transplant, Ghostflame, Profane veil. The former for movement, the two latter as panic/defensive buttons.

[zinc jay]

So better stack all damage into 1 source and not splitting?

[obtuse quest]

If possible, yes.

[zinc jay]

DoT ,fire ,spell ,necro

Better choose something 1?

[obtuse quest]

Most likely DoT + damage type (Fire/necro), or Spell + DoT + Damage type, at least for warlock.

[zinc jay]

Any predictions what's better?

[thorn grove]

ohh i've only ever done one dot build in any arpg before and it was scuffed af in poe2, that sounds fun to do

[obtuse quest]

Probably fire?

[zinc jay]

So like DoT+ Fire will be good

And for defence capability what warlock has?

Armour stacking not looking impressive

[obtuse quest]

Ability to play hybrid (Health+ward), Profane veil that lets you dodge all dodgable hits while in it, and ghostflame for ward stacking.

[obtuse quest]

Armour was never acolyte's strong suit.

[zinc jay]

What's profane veil ?

[obtuse quest]

30 passive point skill for warlock.

[zinc jay]

Ow I've never used this skill

[zinc jay]

I use this skills

Not sure about skills ,i see plenty difference builds with warlock

[obtuse quest]

Correct, it depends on the build you're running.

[zinc jay]

And how to know what i need

Transplant and chthonic fissure good skills I wouldn't change them

[obtuse quest]

You learn each skill and find one you want to play around.

[zinc jay]

Yea , maybe you right

[pallid plume]

That's possibly the best way to go this style but dmg still won't be great.

It's only 1 dmg per 1 vitality. So even with 100 vitality that's only 150 flat dmg on the skill. For context Profane skill on mages has a base dmg of 70 and gets 4% increased dmg per int. So using the same benchmark of 100 int with Profane it would do 70 with a 400% dmg boost so like basically double.

And int also gives ward retention for defence.

You also would need to replace minion dmg / minion life for vitality on gear.

The main issue with that node is the vitality and the minion dmg / int are all prefix. So you would have to decide if you wanted a 120% minion dmg mod vs a flat 16 vitality mod.

[empty kite]

How important is to get 100% reduced crit bonus for survival?

[obtuse quest]

If you don't have at least 80% of it, expect to be randomly one shot.

[lost gale]

best use I can think of for aura of decay is numlocking it with vessel of strife for the regen

200% inc regen is no joke

[empty kite]

The build for flame whip warlock mentions Helping Screech skill, what's that? Can't find it anywhere

[pearl snow]

Helping Screech is a bug when updating guides. I’ve seen it. Should be mentioning Flame Whip

Instead

[empty kite]

Aha, thanks. Though in some points it does mention Flame Whip correctly

[pearl snow]

Yeah could just be an editing error too. Easy to miss on guides

[wheat basin]

Can u share your build link ?

[empty kite]

And with flame whip do we use Aura of Decay (toggle and swap skill)? Asking because guide says about poison damage scaling crit...

[obtuse quest]

There's one reason to use AoD in that setup:

[obtuse quest]

(The poison damage is for Acid Skin. Unrelated to Aura of Decay)

[placid token]

I was testing bleed stacker, it was quite tanky(more like high armour and sustain) but even with better gear I think I would struggle to comfortably clear 500c+
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVD0MKZB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Lich (22) / Warlock (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,957, Regen: 31.64/s
▸ Mana: 220.98, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 222%, Regen: 160/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 24 Dex / 89 Int / 3 Att / 45 Vit
▸ Resistances: 104% / 69% / 69% / 87% / 159% / 406% / 130%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 391
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (197)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,190)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 23% (339)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Harvest / Rip Blood / Spirit Plague

[placid token]

did they touch witchfire with the update or any passive node? I see significant boost in DPS on website after changing my weapon but nearly no difference when testing on dummies

from 9.6k to 21k with melee leech but no difference in game

[lyric isle]

Quick question, why arent my minions showing up in the top left?

[obtuse quest]

Known bug

[lyric isle]

I assume a restart will fix it?

[obtuse quest]

No fixes as of now iirc

[lyric isle]

rip

[obtuse quest]

Did you take hollow lich? The increased damage it gives technically double dips.

[placid token]

yep, you can see this on the screenshot

maybe drop on chance to ignite equalized the diff in dmg?

but I think nearly 22 leech should boost me way more than 80%~` chance to ignite

I have 21k with leech weapon and 9k+ wiht chance to ignite + dmg over time
but in game I see drop from 74k+ raw on dummies to 68%~`
maybe I will try to respec the passives

[obtuse quest]

You might have noticed that LETools doesn't account for Grimhilde's.

80% chance to ignite= 160% MORE witchfire damage.

[placid token]

ouch, what an unlucky slam then I had chance to ignite 40%+ too on the same exalted weapon

[empty kite]

And if with idol which gives increased poison damage while aura of decay is active?

[obtuse quest]

I don't think you use those since you want it to go on and off, but if they do use those, then that's the reason to use aura of decay

[empty kite]

No I mean if I snapshot it and then swap idol and leave aura going

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[lost gale]

I'm kind of interested in volatile zombies/infernal shade triggering

anyone made it work well?

seems like you could get a very short duration infernal shade that the zombies are casting with a couple of the VZ respawn rings and clear with that

[old hull]

Infernal shade with ghost maker was pretty decent last I tried it, you can have zombies auto cast some, sure

[wise leaf]

https://youtu.be/IhnCHmCy2XM?si=sSVedh3zJPOJ4Mar

I'm at 1000c with this build, it's a breeze and a lot of fun

[placid token]

does anybody cook some self cast chaos bolt build?
I was thinking of going cold necro with this setup(gloves with increased area/helmet with chance for more chaos bolt on cast):

• crt/crt mult+spell dmg

[fickle basalt]

any good minion uniques i should know about for my fire minion army?

[obtuse quest]

Logi's hunger.

[fickle basalt]

ty

[fickle basalt]

does all of the modifiers work for minions like fire critical strike chance

[obtuse quest]

No, only things that say "minion"

[fickle basalt]

ok

[wintry flame]

I have tech it's not working well per se depends what you consider good I guess lmao

[pearl snow]

I’ve tried it a bunch. I can’t get it working comfortably, but you’ll probably have to dex stack and use the cold boots too

If you are planning on it

[placid token]

how much would you say is ok?

[placid token]

do you have any planner saved? I would like to have a look, what corruption stops you and why? is it due to lack of dmg or being too squishy?

[pearl snow]

Lack of dmg before 300 I’d say

Nothing saved

CB starts out incredibly low dmg wise

[pearl snow]

Dex? As much as possible if you use those mourningfrost boots

[zenith current]

Realistically speaking

how many minions can you sustain

i was considering a bit of an oddball build that'd stack minions just as fodder for hungering souls and stack this modifier:

[pearl snow]

Depends on if you are self casting your minions and also their survivability. If you aren't building that up, which I assume you wouldn't much for pumping HS dmg, not many

[zenith current]

The point is to not care about their damage at all

just sustain and hp for minions

[obtuse quest]

You'll be using stats for minion health instead of your health, so your mileage will be mixed.

[pearl snow]

the only choice to sustain minions without dmg is hp regen

[zenith current]

Depends how much stats is really needed.

[pearl snow]

which means you gotta stack hp regen too most likely

or you sac 2 rings

and just not care about minion life

[obtuse quest]

Depends on corruption, but normally quite a bit.

[pearl snow]

zombies with vanguards and parsites can give you up to 8 I think if nothing dies and skills proc

and thats completely passive generation

[zenith current]

Hmm

i was also considering using Lachesis staff

and the +2 mages

and the per skeleton mage spell damage bonus

[pearl snow]

Ignite Golemancer not looking too great sadge

[thorn grove]

anyone noticed the glitch where if the wraithlord cant move and an enemy is just barely outside its range it will constantly summon wraiths XD

kinda funny just cuz of the noise it makes

[zenith current]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6541Mlo something like this in principle @pearl snow

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Necromancer (51) / Lich (31)

General:

▸ Health: 4,169, Regen: 41/s
▸ Mana: 185.51, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 96%, Regen: 88/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 28 Int / 5 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 66% / 66% / 70% / 70% / 85% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 834
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,062)

Used skills:

Hungering Souls / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Wraith / Summon Volatile Zombie / Dread Shade

[pearl snow]

Maybe, I dont see how it ends up being super clunky

spamming wraiths

[obtuse quest]

This looks like some hybrid shinanigans that might not do enough damage.

[pearl snow]

and zombies

[zenith current]

well, the rotation feels like

wraiths, zombies, then spam HS

[pearl snow]

I dont think I'd do giant zombie either because if you grab Shepherd of the Thralls you get vanguard after death

[zenith current]

lets see, how many minions is this...

[pearl snow]

Giant Zombie also reduces the chance of awakening prescence I think

[zenith current]

should probably swap something to skellies

and use skele warriors for bone armor

wraiths probs

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, the zombie's respawn from dead zombies is effectively: 99% for normal small zombie

[soft notch]

Hey, just wanted to throw a quick thanks to @pearl snow . been playing Witchfire Warlock and having a blast. Killed normal abby and getting into 400ish Corruption

[pearl snow]

Thanks! Good to hear!

[zenith current]

Skeletons: 3+3(skill)+2(tree)+1(chest)+1 (necro) for 10 skele warriors.
Mages: 3+1(skill)+1(tree)+2(Lachesis)+1 (necro) for 8 skele mages.
Zombies: Avg of 5 per cast.
That's 23 minions not counting vanguards and parasites.

138% more for HS

[pearl snow]

not bad

the real test would be in monos

not sure how many are just gunna die

[obtuse quest]

minions dying to a breeze would be your core problem basically.

[zenith current]

Would they tho

[vivid monolith]

Yeah it is kind of annoying, since it can happen if there's an enemy out of range and it focuses that instead of the one in range for whatever reason

[obtuse quest]

You'll soon find out why no one uses skeletons except as pure fodder. (Yes)

[zenith current]

i mean i'm keen to swap them out for wraiths.

[vivid monolith]

Double arboreal rings

[zenith current]

death knights should be tanky

at least

[thorn grove]

oh i havent noticed that

[zenith current]

well

let me test that offline real quick

how much damage are we even talking here

[obtuse quest]

Those are okay ish.

[thorn grove]

i just forgot to imprint my only 2x t7 prefix 2h axe which was perfect for crafting

what have i done

[vivid monolith]

I haven't gotten any 2h double t7s except for bows

Makes my 2h sword mage and 2h axe necro a pain

[old hull]

I did run skeleton rogues since the S2 changes, and they worked surprisingly well. Not going to push for uber Abby personally, but it was pretty fun.

[dark grove]

can anyone help me...! the minion icons disappear 😦 I don't know how to turn it on back

[thorn grove]

it is an acknowledged bug with the latest patch

[obtuse quest]

Known bug, no fix.

[dark grove]

It was normal in 8hrs ago 😦

[zenith current]

@obtuse quest seems more feasible to sustain the life of 3 minions for 150% than it is to sustain 25+ minions

[obtuse quest]

Welcome to minion theory.

[zenith current]

then again you lose out on spell dam

per minion

aight, testing offline

after bricking 16 builds

im done testing builds online lol

[lost gale]

does anything use phys infernal shade? It looks a lot cooler than the fire version imo

but it doesn't seem worth going for

[pearl snow]

I’ve used it to help with armor shred on a hit based CB lol

The armor shred portion is pretty nice

[thorn grove]

i use it for my totally tubular wraithlord

[fiery plinth]

Do you have any interesting build for Necromancer under Minions ?

[thorn grove]

but mostly just for cast speed honestly, tho iirc with 3 minions shredding it sustains like 40-50 stacks of shred which is a decent amount of inc dmg taken

[thorn grove]

are you asking me? i wouldnt say my build is worth other ppl playing, it aint that great rn haha

[fiery plinth]

I asked generally . Because with what I found I have a problem with bosses

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord, Abomination.

[thorn grove]

i wish i could mute the infernal shade, that blood oozing sound is so disturbing when i'm chilling in echo of a world lol

[fiery plinth]

Abomination I saw this build. Personally, it seems to me to be bugging the game

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord then.

[thorn grove]

the cooler one 😎

[fiery plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olZnLmJQ I found this one . Unless you have from another site more developed

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 92

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,297, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Mana: 98.47, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 112% / 65% / 64% / 72% / 109% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 459
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (171)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (551)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Summon Wraith / Transplant / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer

[stuck owl]

Keeper's Wraithlord Necromancer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Infernal Shade
• Dread Shade
• Transplant
• Bone Curse
• Summon Wraith

Used unique items

• Wraithlord's Harbour
• Exsanguinous
• Usurper's Mandate
• Blood of the Exile
• Death Rattle
• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Minions

Created by keeper184 · Feb 20, 2025, 1:21 PM

[zenith current]

@obtuse quest i think that im gonna twist it some other way

ill do Lachesis mana stacking archmages

focusing on ailments, rather than on spell damage

can then do everlasting poison dreadshade, for one

[fiery plinth]

What do you mean ?

[thorn grove]

isnt this build outdated? notably the dread shade tree?

the lone watcher node is not needed if the pernicious pact node is taken

[zenith current]

im cooking the concept, just a few

[fiery plinth]

I think the one I posted earlier was more up to date . At least version 1.2

[wintry flame]

also don't go that way taking everlasting poison, the wraith node doesn't work for Wraithlord

[thorn grove]

the poison node does, do you mean the more damage node?

[wintry flame]

yeah the more dmg

[thorn grove]

bruh what

you're right

[sly zodiac]

im struggling to push furthur with my chaos bolts reaper form lich

like i dont have any uniques equipped and gear just keeps bricking

[zenith current]

@obtuse quest https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEeX8XMB something like this perhaps?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (63) / Lich (21) / Warlock (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,753, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 100%, Regen: 108/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 24 Int / 1 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 57% / 59% / 59% / 76% / 65% / 105% / 27%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 751
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,778)

Used skills:

Aura Of Decay / Summon Skeletal Mage / Chaos Bolts / Dread Shade / Harvest

[zenith current]

ah forgot the idols

hold up

[thorn grove]

do you know if that's a bug or purposefully particular wording? it seems really weird that abom gets it but not wraithlord XD

[zenith current]

Thats better

Premise is:
Give minions damned and ignite through chaos bolts. Use Ignite+damned mages and give them poison chance from tree, boost it with aura of decay, electrify from lachesis, amplify all that with mana stacking

and some bleed cause why not

[wintry flame]

I'm gonna say it might have been an oversight, but idk. But yeah nodes like that are particular in their wording. Like Wraith =/= Wraithlord and same with Spectres/Revenant

[lost gale]

Do the mages actually hit fast enough to do that kind of unfocused DOT build?

[zenith current]

with all the attack speed on the tree? Frenzy and 2 extra mages? Idk, i'd like to wager yes

[vivid monolith]

Do the mages inherit your DoT damage modifiers

[wintry flame]

I got 2 perma wraiths to like 200k+ ticks using a non-specific ailment build

[wintry flame]

they do not

[zenith current]

No

[lost gale]

no but minion damage and generic damage on the tree all scale the dots

[thorn grove]

yeah the wraith wording is also used in the wraith tree but i suppose the helm directly says that the wraithlord scales with that tree

[vivid monolith]

They that will be potentially a bit meh depending on how many more mods mages have, idr the tree offhand

[zenith current]

But Forbidden Arcana(5% more per 25 max mana) is pretty strong on its own.

[fiery plinth]

I think anything will be better than that https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/pl/olZRRJ6Q

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 70

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (22) / Necromancer (61)

General:

▸ Health: 1,114, Regen: 16.51/s
▸ Mana: 95.35, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 194%, Regen: 81/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 8 Dex / 49 Int / 2 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 109% / 121% / 72% / 33% / 52% / 205% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 223
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (83)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (531)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Wraith / Summon Skeletal Mage / Dread Shade / Summon Volatile Zombie

[zenith current]

might wanna switch to english planner lol

[vivid monolith]

Electrify is cool though so I can only encourage the shenanigans

[wintry flame]

On Minions, DoT builds are best when it's multiple DoTs, because your chance to apply will limit damage cieling. Only issue with running a DoT build outside of skele rogues is your ramp time is going to be bad, unless every minion focuses the same target.

[zenith current]

ehhh I kinda wanted to specifically build around Lachesis

[thorn grove]

does this node only taunt a single time at the beginning of the cast or does it taunt within range for 4 seconds as if it was persistent? i'm thinkin it prolly is the former...

[vivid monolith]

Primalist also has dots but they bend some rules with modifiers

[wintry flame]

former, it was patched from perma when we abused it in arena 😛

[vivid monolith]

Unfortunate

[zenith current]

also what you sent me seems like... a completely different build? Doesnt look remotely similar, sorry

[thorn grove]

i'm running out of nodes to allocate for dread shade cuz they dont work XD

[vivid monolith]

Can't let WL tank worse than a paladin can now can we

[fiery plinth]

Ahh I can't translate your statements . I will calmly see later . I like necromancer and minions very much .

[thorn grove]

this is my current tree with one more point to allocate, where do i even put it lol

[zenith current]

I welcome ideas to shove more ailments into my take

I kinda like the idea of lachesis all ailments mages

[wintry flame]

how much vit do you have? I'd just take lone watcher

that way you could snapshot your wraithlord

[thorn grove]

i'd prefer to not snapshot

[wintry flame]

well either way don't have to resummon

and I doubt you have enough vit to make much of a difference in armor

[thorn grove]

it's still like 15-20% less dmg taken

and lone watcher would more than double damage taken

[sly zodiac]

id have killed for the acolyte minions to have some active abilities you could use when you felt like it

[fiery plinth]

Is there any YT video of this build ? I would like to see how the gameplay looks like

[zenith current]

Nope, purely theorycrafting atm

[thorn grove]

what about speccing into damned chance? would that scale at all with added spell damage and/or increases to minion damage? i have no clue how dots work in this game beyond the basics

[fiery plinth]

Full Mana Idols WoW xd

[wintry flame]

it scales, won't be crazy impactful

but it does something lmao

oh I guess it applies regen debuff which is nice

[vivid monolith]

It'd scale off of the more multipliers and increased minion%, right?

...how much do bosses actually regen?

[thorn grove]

lol

he's already at max health all the time with the crazy amount of leech he has so i can take the points out of increased buff effect per missing health

ticks for abt 13k on the dummies so it's basically nothing XD

[wintry flame]

Defenses are a bit monka, imo. Whats your sustain for the mages? you're going lowlife, but don't invest into ward retention and have an okay hp pool. Regen might be the way imo. Go Doublet, run more int on gear if you go vessel. If not, run the bleed chance/pen prefixes for minions. Drop harvest, take all for one node in Dread shade, take increased shade count on infernal/dread, you can run 6 dread shades on each skele mage, now 6 mages get perma 40% more dmg vs. 65% every 13 hits.

[zenith current]

defense isn't my strong suit lmao

[wintry flame]

fair lmao

[zenith current]

Hm...

fair point on the shades. I think the limit is 7

of mages

[wintry flame]

4 + 1 from each shade tree

oh

yeah only 6 would get buffed

[zenith current]

unless

[wintry flame]

unless you ran lich's set as sealed

[zenith current]

you get +1 shade from someplace

[wintry flame]

then you could have 10

or not run infernal

have 9 and do 2 perma wraiths

or run harvest

wraiths is probs more dmg than what harvest would give tbh

but all your minions need sustain, regen won't last, mages almost always need the crit node that give % hp on crit, regardless of if you're crit or not lmao

[zenith current]

wait whats the maximum default shade?

[wintry flame]

4

4 default, 6 with both points in tree nodes, and 10 with lich's set

[zenith current]

ugh, cant run lich's set and lachesis

[wintry flame]

oh yeah lmao

conflicts haha

[zenith current]

such a problematic item to build around

hmm

[wintry flame]

yupp

[vivid monolith]

one point into damned application for reduced regen (if that does anything it is better than nothing lol) and 3 points into the missing health buff?

In theory, the missing health buff--assuming it doesn't snapshot, because that'd be hilarious--will kick in if the wraithlord gets hit, so it'll buff like... an attack

[wintry flame]

it's dynamic

[zenith current]

i mean technically, +1 skele mage just saves you 3 p in mage tree

so you can still run around 6 COPIUM

[wintry flame]

lmaooo

or just buff 6

[zenith current]

Ye

Might actually go 6

[wintry flame]

and keep the 7th still

[zenith current]

I wonder

[thorn grove]

true, ig it's better than nothing XD, he's shooting like maybe 2 times per second and the debuff is 2.5 seconds so it should have full uptime with even just one point

[wintry flame]

I just really think the problem is gonna be ramp time, Mages have hardly any multipliers

[zenith current]

hence the mana stacking

[wintry flame]

yeh but that's a single multiplier that you have to scale lmao

it's gonna be tough early on I feel

[thorn grove]

starting to see some random 2mil hits on the dummies when the wraithlord has blood infusion :)

[wintry flame]

noiceee

[zenith current]

Honestly given the amount of mages, harvest solution may be smarter...

less buff management too

[lost gale]

sad to theorycraft a cool minion DOT build and realise that Abom with a plague idol probably just works better overall

[thorn grove]

what are some good defensive layers i can work into my build, i've really only got one ring slot open and i wont be hitting the attribute req for a red ring

mainly passive tree nodes, maybe something i've missed... i just feel so squishy low life with 4.5k ward at 500c

it could genuinely just be a skill issue but tight corridors are a pain and that's where i die most

XD

does the abom build even need levels for the skill?

[wintry flame]

link character

[thorn grove]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvJYw4gA

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (34) / Necromancer (73)

General:

▸ Health: 1,944, Regen: 23.16/s
▸ Mana: 106.48, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 249%, Regen: 83/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 13 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 87% / 76% / 76% / 87% / 122% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 389
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (218)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (716)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 96%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

[wintry flame]

I'd prio int/hp over some of the items you have, exsang, helm, rings. like Julra's swap for % missing hp gloves, or roll the mod on a pair, armor blessing over minion dmg imo. Also maybe farm for a minion tp ring and get T7 move speed on boots. Then your idols, you'd need to fix resists, but you'd want %hp idols with ward retention or flat hp. Strands is nice but might be better to run double resist belt to help with resists, so you can wear idols. the flat hp or up to 20% ward retention on those will be better and you get 4 more affixes on belt.

[thorn grove]

removing the belt entirely only drops me to 3.8k ward and that's with me losing 300hp from removing it too

i suppose the 67% ward retention isnt super op

that was the main reason i had it

[wintry flame]

yeah find a belt to replace and the % hp idols w/ flat hp or ward retention

when you have both on it will be better, but as I said it's good in the meantime

[thorn grove]

i plan to get a 2lp julra's gloves and get cast and ward per missing health

[wintry flame]

okay yeah nice, just farm those and turtle/nemesis them

[thorn grove]

but i have had bad luck with farming julra and nemesis, prolly abt 200 pairs of those gloves with no 2lp

[wintry flame]

did you turtle them?

and try to reroll the lp

[thorn grove]

already did twice, i have like 10 more 1lp ones i need to do but nemesis keeps bricking them with 1 legendary affix

[wintry flame]

did you get any 0lp?

[thorn grove]

oh tons lol

[wintry flame]

cause you can nemesis them and try to roll 2lp then?

do the nemesis tower and pray lmao

[thorn grove]

yeah, i have like 1 or 2 2 affix legendaries but no 2lp yet

[wintry flame]

damn unluck

[finite galleon]

Definitely yes to abomination levels, no to transplant levels

[thorn grove]

i've done like 50 nemesis towers lmao

[wintry flame]

I think I got a couple of pairs not even farming for it lmaooo

I was farming for Vessel

[finite galleon]

Zeckar is rubbing it in 🥹

[wintry flame]

I got paid in a min rolled vessel so it's okay

[thorn grove]

i've only got 1lp vessels too

[finite galleon]

same, vessels just don't drop enough to make me wanna go for it. Haven't played LE in several days, mostly back to story games now.

[thorn grove]

maybe i'll hop back on my ES VK to farm like 50 more t4 julra XD

[finite galleon]

The despair when you end up with absolute f*ckall

[thorn grove]

i do plan to get a minion traversal ring and already have cooldown reduction max rolled living boots to replace these current ones

[wintry flame]

oh no move speed 😦

[thorn grove]

it's not in the budget yet haha

those boots are easy to farm at least

[finite galleon]

What's up with everyone and their obsession with either cd reduction or movement speed? What's wrong with just uhh, just walking?

[thorn grove]

well my minions cant move so i have to tp them with transplant

[finite galleon]

Ig ppl are good enough to actually dodge stuff with more movement speed? Cuz I can't do shit with that extra speed.

[finite galleon]

Yes, YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR PLAYING WRAITHLORD REEEEE

[thorn grove]

and yeah ms is mostly to dodge, more so just the fact that you're moving faster means it's harder to stand in a pool of unalive

[wintry flame]

movement speed is efficiency and defense

[thorn grove]

feelin real comfy

[finite galleon]

In my case I move faster into nasty spots and off myself as a result. I've come to terms with being bad. Maybe this is why I felt snapshotting was my saviour.

[finite galleon]

😭

[thorn grove]

i suck too so 🤝

but my main echo loop is tp into a pack and then run for my life

so ms would be nice

[wintry flame]

when I had perma taunt I did not care lmaoooo

I sat in corner

actually infernalshade necro was more broken I could stand in the middles of the arena

[finite galleon]

Most alpha wraithlord gameplay be like

[finite galleon]

O venerable Zeckar, tell us of those bygone times

[thorn grove]

i do wish my wraithlord could pull more aggro tho, most enemies dont even care for his existence

[finite galleon]

yeah the echo mod 'enemies focus on the player' seems to do stone cold nothing

I've never seen an enemy not focus on me if that was a choice

[thorn grove]

they see a wraithlord with like 90% dr, 25k health, and 200k dps and say "nope, squishy guy next to him"

[wintry flame]

or I could show you... https://medal.tv/games/last-epoch/clips/1bIWgZh3oBri-B?invite=cr-MSx2c1QsMTAzNTMzMzA2

[finite galleon]

Aintnoway he's got another clip ready

just like that

out of nowhere

[wintry flame]

24 infernal shades all just ramping infinitely 😄

you could get so many lmao

[thorn grove]

bruh

[finite galleon]

We are firmly in the ' I can't tell what the f*ck's going on on screen' territory

[jagged thistle]

mfw the best way to play harvest is through chaos bolts

[finite galleon]

@lost gale Embryo you need to take a look at this video. Is this what you would like to become? Is this the cost you are willing to pay, just to pile on one more stack of dot?

[wintry flame]

actually this was better lmao ghostflame giving you your 30% of your ignite chance per second, but it counted what it was giving you, so you got like 1 billion ignite chance and then you got 200%+ move speed and infinite ward. you'd I think I crashed server on this clip lmao

[thorn grove]

can i just trade in my portal charms and dungeon keys for boss loot rolls, this is so tedious to farm even with portal charms XD

[willow verge]

anyone doing flame whip warlock?

[sly zodiac]

what the hell is even going on in this clip

[thorn grove]

this is a joke, how do i get this before the gloves

[finite galleon]

Oh yeah I remember watching your youtube video on this, and thinking 'wow, I really should smash that unsubscribe button'.

[wintry flame]

Me ramping my ignite damage and ward so high it crashes the game.

[finite galleon]

Back in our days, pink piggy, things were nasty

[thorn grove]

dude without portal charms i would not even be thinking abt this unique haha

[sly zodiac]

ok butt how

sorry im fairly new so im just genuinely curious

[finite galleon]

your autocorrect kinda sus titan

[wintry flame]

This was from awhile back during 1.0, but I found a bug in Ghostflame. The Spirit Kindling node if you targeted a minion or one dies in your presence the node would start giving you stacks. each stack is 20% move speed, 10% melee attack speed (unimportant), and 30% of your ignite chance is given per stack. You'd move fast and since you were giving yourself your ignite chance it would ramp to insane numbers, billions of ignites per hit lmao. So you could wear Ashes of Mortality and get 2 ward per ignite every 2 secs.

[sly zodiac]

oh i love when a bug just works out to a funny

[finite galleon]

The moral of the story here is that some realms are best left uncharted

[sly zodiac]

will this game stop bricking my crafts or drop me a decent t7

[finite galleon]

The ol' complaint gambit. It always works.

Especially if you add some nasty profanities to your complaint.

[sly zodiac]

im not complaining per say im just lementing my bad rng

[thorn grove]

will this stupid game stop dropping 1lp gloves, something more rude here idk

[finite galleon]

damn that was tame

[sly zodiac]

hmm do i drop harvest from my build for something else like deathseal or drainlife

[finite galleon]

what's your build about titan

[sly zodiac]

oh erm reaper form with chaos bolts procing bone curse rip blood and havest 4 times a bolt

[finite galleon]

Okay, you know what other playstyle fully supports chaos bolt proc'cing those exact three skills?

ABOMINATION BABYYYYY

look at that nasty minion multiplier on harvest

65 percenf

[thorn grove]

are the abom overlords paying you to shill it

[finite galleon]

that's the type of number worrh dying for

[finite galleon]

No, I am just this based, by my own volition.

[sly zodiac]

im wondering if drain life is just worth more for the healing to keep the reaper form uptime

[finite galleon]

Mmm, 50 percent more minion physical damage on bone curse? Free marked for death? Fully automated blood infusion? Necrotic res shred for fre-

Aaannnd it fell on deaf ears

feelsbadman

[sly zodiac]

dont like acolyte minions sorry

[finite galleon]

honourable_sudoku.gif

[thorn grove]

free blood infusion from where?

sorry fully automated not free

[finite galleon]

yeah yeah

[thorn grove]

is that from the bone curse proccing rip blood?

[finite galleon]

very true

wait no

I read bone curse as chaos bolt

it's from the chaos bolt rip blood proc

because bone curse's 20 points are imo kinda tight

[thorn grove]

yeah lol

and it's only on expiration

[finite galleon]

true

[thorn grove]

do "expire" triggers happen if the target dies?

[finite galleon]

No clue. I could log into the game and test it, or, I can just resort to the tried and true method

of @obtuse quest

Kzb sama please tell us the answer pwease 🥹

[thorn grove]

same question for refreshing the timer on something

in poe2 refreshing curses applies their expire effects, makes for some cool builds

[finite galleon]

I would be into all the curse/aura/banner/link stuff, if I was playing with a team. Playing alone and using those kinda makes me feel bad.

Damn, if only there was a game with immense build depth, based on a party, yet still revolving around a narrative first and foremost

oh wait that's just wotr

[thorn grove]

i have never heard of this game

[jagged thistle]

laughs in animate guardian

i remember being to overcap certain skill tree nodes back on release. am i misremembering or what was that mechanic

[thorn grove]

🙃 53 t4 julra kills later

[finite galleon]

It's called pathfinder wrath of the righteous. It uhh, it is an crpg, with some quirks that'll drive some players away, but it is imo THE crpg with the coolest build framework

[jagged thistle]

mfw i keep restarting the intro because im an altaholoc

[finite galleon]

Shuffling through animate guardian combinations on PoB was a good time. I liked it. Ig it is the 'revolving around a narrative' condition that poe doesn't meet for me.

[jagged thistle]

if you arent blinking around obliterating entire screens there is a story.

but uh

hey

its me

blinking around deleting entire screens

3.26 im not sure what im gonna play

[finite galleon]

You pretty much need to enjoy blinking around and zooming past enemy corpses, or hitting massive numbers, or overcoming nasty bosses, (or any of the other common arpg tropes) to enjoy playing poe. Or ig if you're deranged enough, you can also enjoy trading.

But I'm not into any of that stuff

Although fwiw

poe does have some strong voice acting and one liners

imo at least

[thorn grove]

we did it bois, turtle saved me and i now am the proud owner of a single 2lp julra's obsession

[finite galleon]

The proud owner of a bricked 2lp julra's obsession

ftfy

[thorn grove]

the roll on the cold res is terrible but it got max spell dmg

[jagged thistle]

Did the ground move for you baby? you hit the ground quite hard.

[finite galleon]

All the more painful when you inevitably brick it

[thorn grove]

do i attempt to slam it with this or get better gloves, these are the two affixes i want, the rolls are middling tho

[finite galleon]

I would slam for sure

[jagged thistle]

my enjoyment of poe comes from making mechanics click together.

my all time best build triggered hundreds of 1 damage ignites per second to damage me to trigger more spells

[finite galleon]

Probably fix the t5 affix for good luck?

[thorn grove]

i've got 4 chances to reroll the unique, od i do it for the cold res or leave it and pray i can fill it elsewhere

[finite galleon]

theorycrafting and testing in practice is fun and all, but the path to it in poe is too arduous for me

[finite galleon]

Wait, where do those 4 chances come from? From nemesis bricked 1lp gloves?

[thorn grove]

legendaries with 2 affixes from nemesis

[finite galleon]

If I were you I'd go full yolo and reroll the living shit out of it

[jagged thistle]

i hate the defensive layers aspect.

thats it. unsure what im gonna play for 3.26, will have to wait for spoilers to start working on it

[finite galleon]

Ah scheisse, do you go back every season?

What about your earlier characters? Do you never feel the urge to get them some completely unreasonable once-in-a-life-time-tier items?

[thorn grove]

hm, decent res but bad spell dmg, tbf it is only 5 flat dmg right.....

[finite galleon]

that 5 dmg is going to be the difference

between you being the first ever player to kill uber aberroth with wraithlord, followed by moving on to achieve every single goal in your life

[thorn grove]

lmao

i have 2 more reroll attempts

[finite galleon]

and you failing to kill uber aberroth, and spending the later half of your life in agony

[jagged thistle]

nope

[finite galleon]

those 2 rerolls are going to be it

[jagged thistle]

the next challenge is always the goal

i do something new every time

[finite galleon]

I'm completely tied to my existing characters in every single game I play

[thorn grove]

this is your fault.

[jagged thistle]

my last character in poe2 was strength stack witch

[finite galleon]

The last one is going to be it, I can feel it

[thorn grove]

oh it min rolled the spell damage on the next one so i did it again and that was the pic i sent

[finite galleon]

Sounds unholy. What does strength do in poe 2? A helm similar to the zombo helm in poe 1?

[jagged thistle]

gives life lol

[finite galleon]

😭 😭 😭

[thorn grove]

stat stacking 🤮

it's poe2's version of snapshotting controversy XD

[jagged thistle]

i had a shield that applied 50% of my max life as a dot

i was life stacking.

[finite galleon]

sounds based

[thorn grove]

you would have loved gemling

[jagged thistle]

i wasnt a fan of gemling

also its significantly funnier to be a witch

also witch grasping wounds makes me having 0 of every resistance less cancer

[thorn grove]

blood mage too lol

[jagged thistle]

oh it bleeps the f word

grasping wounds makes me not die

and life remnants gets me to like 10k life lmao

[thorn grove]

with like 6 es nodes you can have 20k es

[jagged thistle]

none of those give me gigacolossal corrupted blood stacks

and it isnt funny

[finite galleon]

Ahh shit, the poe ppl have started talking in poe terms

[jagged thistle]

this is your fault

[thorn grove]

gottem

[jagged thistle]

let me see if i saved my silverfist 1 fight with this build

check dm in a couple seconds, hermano

[thorn grove]

silverfist is so overstated in his difficulty haha

lacking patience is the only thing that gets u killed in that fight

[jagged thistle]

behold my infinite patience.

check dm

[thorn grove]

your dmg lmfao

tanking the slam is crazy tho

[jagged thistle]

BEHOLD CRIT PARRY STRENGTH STACK WITCH

[thorn grove]

-_-

[jagged thistle]

this is what i do in arpgs.

i find regarded mechanics and make them work

right now im slapping dex on a witch to make harvest trigger off chaos bolts for a melee bleed build

acolyte whatever

[thorn grove]

thanks nemmy

[jagged thistle]

i had this drop, so i figured it could be fun

[neat stump]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2Mb63zo

Im having difficulties it seems, when it comes to keeping my DPS Up, trying to fight Uber Abby, I worked at getting my Spell CSC to 80% to go with the Acid Skin from pearls. What im observing is, that I Just dont seem to be hitting very hard (or hard and fast) for portions of the fight; a) first harbinger b) post 1st harbinger my dps seems to slow down a bit.

I try to remain in Sealed Death form, I am actively holding down rip blood. What I need to know.. is can I hold down two skills at once, e.g. Drain Life AND RIp Blood? Or How does Drain Life work in this situation, spam every X seconds, WHILE holding down Rip Blood or do I need to take my finger off Rip Blood for a brief second?

Does Acid Skin's Added Crit Strike Chance effect expire ever? Do i need to keep spamming transplant to keep debuff up?

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,658, Regen: 32.4/s
▸ Mana: 419.51, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 351%, Regen: 36/s
▸ Attributes: 36 Str / 21 Dex / 169 Int / 12 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 47% / 47% / 86% / 96% / 43% / 165% / 125%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 532
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (310)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,526)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 102%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Transplant / Drain Life / Reaper Form / Death Seal

[jagged thistle]

its whatever acid skins duration is

no i don't know what the duration is

[neat stump]

LET leads me to believe its 5 seconds

[jagged thistle]

then you should only need to reapply then

so like, for safety's sake 4.8 seconds

south of 5 seconds so theres overlap

[thorn grove]

NAH THIS GAME IS PLAYING JOKES ON ME

[neat stump]

Its just the rotation then that iseem to be fumbling or missing pertinent details on

death sealing, etc

[jagged thistle]

i can only really be helpful with general mechanics, never utilized your setup

[jagged thistle]

grab ring egg ring be a man

[thorn grove]

this is the first red ring i have ever gotten

[finite galleon]

Noice

[jagged thistle]

EGG
THE
RING

[finite galleon]

it's all because of me btw

if you didn't heed my advice on rerolling just now

[jagged thistle]

the LE version of vaal or no baals

[thorn grove]

I LITERALLY CANT IT NATUALLY ROLLED

[jagged thistle]

you can challenge now

[finite galleon]

there would be no red ring

[jagged thistle]

then egg from a different nemmy

ez

go burn a conquered tower coward

[thorn grove]

i mean honestly i was abt to take the 5 spell dmg roll and go with it until u convinced me to gamble lmao

[finite galleon]

I saw the red ring in your future

[jagged thistle]

EXCUSE ME EMBED

[finite galleon]

clouded, due to your indecision, but a red ring nonetheless

[thorn grove]

pls gimme lp nemmy, pls

[jagged thistle]

GIVE HIM MELEE STUN

[finite galleon]

not gonna happen. better to just hope for a useful affix

[jagged thistle]

HE WANTS T8 MELEE STUN

[thorn grove]

life is not worth living

[jagged thistle]

its because you didnt egg

coward

[thorn grove]

my loot filter works at least, finally able to test

[jagged thistle]

R I N G

[jagged thistle]

at least you can imprint the ring on you tree now

[thorn grove]

yeah that's what i was just thinking

and i got confirmation that legendary affixes count as lp for imprinting

and that imprinting only cares about the type of unique not lp for drop rates but then uses the lp to increase lp chances on imprint drops

man i just did 10 towers with not a single 2lp or 2 affix julra's obsession, that's enough for today lol

[reef helm]

Can you imprint Blight of Lachesis, or no bc its technically from a kind-of-boss? I just got good roll with a decent amount of WW and would like to get more of them in case this one whiffs

[pearl snow]

Weaver's Will items cannot be "slammed" like normal uniques

[thorn grove]

imprint only works on items that can be obtained from a world drop, not a boss drop, sorry. it is a really high drop chance from that boss though so just run more lostwood folly maps or cemeteries and tombs

if you're ever curious if an item can be imprinted then look it up on a site like lastepochtools and look at its drop sources, if it has the "random drop" chance then it can be imprinted https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRmBYQTiA

[pearl snow]

oh im dumb and didnt read properly

[thorn grove]

haha i was wondering what led you to that XD

[calm dome]

Is bone curse aura with penance pearls of the swine the only method of self hit in last epoch rn?

[old hull]

Yes. Though technically, bone curse aura on its own does self hit every time an enemy hits you.

[calm dome]

Hmm I was gonna try something with Profane Orbs from Profane Veil but it says I dodge every hit while concealed so it kinda ruins my self hit plan

unless I can still proc on hit triggers even if I dodge them

then that would be really interesting

[vivid monolith]

It shouldn't, based on how dodge works, but I don't know for sure

[old hull]

On hit stuff doesn't trigger on dodged hits, but for all I know penance / bone curse might be undodgeable idk

[calm dome]

Wish there was a Drain Life phys conversion spec. They added a phys convert for reaper form. Let lich be the focus for bleed and life draining stuff

[obtuse quest]

No, but bone curse expiring because it maxed it's hit count (Eg:Illusion of Pain), counts as expiring.

[obtuse quest]

Drain Life is... ehhh. If you wanted fast healing, Rip Blood is your answer.

[empty kite]

That echo which allows you to swap attribute - works on unique / legendary?

I mean on affixes slammed

[obtuse quest]

It needs 1FP, so no.

[empty kite]

How's that "needs 1 fp"?

Ah, fp... i see

[obtuse quest]

And uniques do not have FP.

[zenith current]

hey guys

im cooking

what do you think is the best spell to focus around around this mod?

That's up to 1141% spell damage just from 7 mages (with Lachesis)

Sacrifice with Infernal Shade?

Spirit Plague?

Chaos Bolts + Rip Blood?

Transplant + Rip Blood?

[zenith current]

This is per use, not per sacrifice, meaning it doesn't multiply with chains, right?

Also, this modifier does not affect Fiery Conclusion (Infernal Shade explosions?)

[astral viper]

Would anyone care to share their thoughts on boot choice here? With Wrongwarp and various other buffs I sit at about 150 % movement speed so the boots give a lot of damage, but will Blood of the Exile eventually be better if I can get a 3 LP? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Starbrow/character/Starbrow

[obtuse quest]

0LP Blood of the exile beats it outright the moment you get a red ring.

In theory, it should also beat it right now if you get a high int roll on blood of the exile.

Since int= more damage because of frequency, which is better than inc damage.

[astral viper]

Right, still hunting the red ring, but I have a 1 LP Blood of the Exile with a 10 int roll that I could swap for

[zenith current]

@obtuse quest wanna cook this with me? 🙂

[obtuse quest]

Which one we talking about?

The spell damage per skele mage?

[zenith current]

ya

thinking of cooking it with infernal shade sacrifice

I was wondering about

[zenith current]

this

[zenith current]

and this

[obtuse quest]

Iirc once per shade, no matter the proc source

[zenith current]

it says the bonus stacks

[obtuse quest]

Not sure if it affects explosives

[zenith current]

So you mean once per sacrifice use or once per minion sacrificed?

[obtuse quest]

Once per cast

[zenith current]

so chains not useful here

The idea would be to keep mages in the back, spawn a few skellies, infernal shade, blow them up, have infernal shade get like 1000% more or soemthing

depending how many casts you can get within 2 seconds

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't affect explosion

[zenith current]

Okay

Probably still useful to have the explosion for the clear

[zinc jay]

For DoT what kind weapon i should use ?

[zenith current]

a dot one

:^)

[zenith current]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2MY01Ro something like this?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (47) / Lich (31) / Warlock (8)

General:

▸ Health: 4,319, Regen: 262.02/s
▸ Mana: 177.51, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 247%, Regen: 95/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 3 Dex / 77 Int / 3 Att / 40 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 84% / 84% / 90% / 85% / 146% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 864
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,104)

Used skills:

Sacrifice / Infernal Shade / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Skeleton / Dread Shade

[zenith current]

i'm probably cooked trying to squeeze vessel...

Better

[obtuse quest]

Whatever would buff dots

Like profane wands

[zinc jay]

The ghost maker shows me more dps on skills

[obtuse quest]

Yeah beacuse it gives flat spell to dot spells.

[zinc jay]

So its good choice?

Or i need keep looking

[obtuse quest]

Depends on your build if you're focusing on dot spells.

[zinc jay]

I just don't know:)

[obtuse quest]

What's skeletons for again?

[obtuse quest]

Then it's kinda hard to help you since I don't know what your build plan is.

[zenith current]

mages for the helm/body armor bonus. regular skellies are sacrifice food

[obtuse quest]

Oh right sacr

[slender ibex]

are the blood of the exile boots on stygian lich really just a nother ''sth that has int on it''

[zenith current]

theyre speed too

[obtuse quest]

Int, stats for red ring, one of the highest movespeed unique boots not counting LP

[slender ibex]

ah okok

didnt think about the red ring since i already got 2 and got way past 200 int and bunch of stats on other things too but thats a good point

good to know, was wondering is it really that worth

but its prob only worth as 2 lp? a nice exalt must be better than that

[obtuse quest]

Your exalt needs to have movespeed/int as exalted with a decent base for it to be worth, assuming you already hit red ring stats.

If you haven't, then it's hard to beat 36 attributes and top tier movespeed.

[slender ibex]

this are my current boots, not something amazing but I really like the crit dmg reduction

[obtuse quest]

Since you already hit red ring stats this is fine-ish.

Still better to look for higher int and/or cap crit damage reduction

[slender ibex]

mm okok, yeah wasnt sure i already got 2 lp exiled boots so it was a 5050 for me

agreed tho the dodge rating is unideal and T7 or at least T6 int would be so much nicer

[zenith current]

thoughts on the planner?

[obtuse quest]

Looks okay?

I don't see any issues

[finite galleon]

Citadel boots' implicit do be nasty asf

I'd probably drop my foot of the mountain too if I could hit 180 stats elsewhere. Alas.

[subtle rampart]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPZYGV6Q

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 69

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (36) / Warlock (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,211, Regen: 94.53/s
▸ Mana: 169.94, Regen: 15.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 162%, Regen: 107/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 5 Dex / 25 Int / 5 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 34% / 19% / 73% / 0% / 0% / 80% / 7%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 37%, Threshold: 242
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (172)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (657)

Used skills:

Ghostflame / Reaper Form / Marrow Shards / Bone Curse / Rip Blood

[subtle rampart]

My build on lich with blood physical spells

[subtle rampart]

But it's lich on half, second half it's a warlock

[obtuse quest]

What the heck am I looking at?
Low life while using reaper form?
No resistances?
Less than 2k health?

Oh wait it’s lv 69

[finite galleon]

kzb bullying new player question mark??

[obtuse quest]

I missed the part where it was low level, thought it was someone’s end game build

[finite galleon]

🥺 Please bully me too

[obtuse quest]

🔫 Take this gun and do it yourself-

[obtuse quest]

So er, are you sure this build is working well? Are you staying in reaper form while in combat?

[thorn grove]

Does bone curse have a base hit limit?

I still can't decide if it's better than rip blood with blood infusion for my minions

Minions being the wraithlord

[obtuse quest]

No. It only has the duration limit.

But it only scales with your own damage stats.

[thorn grove]

Rn it's worse because I don't have an idol for the mark for death on minon hit

[thorn grove]

Yeah damage wise it's as useful as rip blood because I'm not scaling my own damage at all

I did make rip blood give ward since I'm low life but it still gives like nothing lol

But 15% more dmg and like 20% increased cast speed is nice for wraithlord, I wish the cast speed buff was better tho

I'm also curious if you know anything on this kzb, do you know if the wraith more damage node after the poison node bottom left of dread shade is meant to not apply to the wraithlord? I've been thinking about it and I really cant think of why that would be the case

[obtuse quest]

Depends on how strict the wording/backend coding is, wraithlord =/= wraiths.

So I'm not too sure myself.

It could be considered a wraith, but then it would have to be done in a way that it doesn't respect the usual wraith limits.

[thorn grove]

Are there other known cases of this to support it not applying to the wraithlord with the wraith keyword?

[obtuse quest]

Iirc there's no other specific thing that does that other than it's own skill tree.

OH wait.

There's one that might be testable.

There's also this.

[thorn grove]

Haha, I'll test these out

Does necromancer have access to the ghost flame skill?

[obtuse quest]

They can.

[thorn grove]

this does not apply if a wraithlord is consumed

[thorn grove]

same with this

that's sad 😢

[obtuse quest]

So it's treated not as a wraith

[thorn grove]

maybe i'm just coping but i feel like that's kinda unfair to the wraithlord, especially in the case of the previously mentioned more dmg node because that even applies to the abomination

[obtuse quest]

To at least be fair, that node probably was made with abom in mind.

[thorn grove]

it does have the abomination skill logo on it lol

one unrelated thing i find interesting is blood infusion from rip blood, if it can be cast on minions, works on the minion it is cast on when blood splatter explicitly says it does not hit the original target

it'd be interesting to attempt to transition this build into a no snapshot abomination but at that point it's prolly not worth it, idk

or what about swapping out rip blood for wandering spirits with fear and necrotic res shred for possibly more survivability?

holy those res shred stacks increase my damage a ton

1.29 mil to about 1.79 mil

[old hull]

Yeah, wraithlord is not a wraith

[old hull]

I don't think the blood splatters can truly "hit" your minions no matter what, it should just apply its buffs to all minions in the area of effect, but I'm not sure because blood splatter is very janky

[thorn grove]

mannnnn

harbinger of ash's telegraphing is non-existent

idek what's hitting me for 5.5k but it's instant death with zero warning

[willow verge]

@pearl snow Killed the uber with flame whip already?

[pearl snow]

I haven't others have, I just stopped pushing it

I'll probably kill later

[willow verge]

working on it rn.

but only lv 95. will try again at 100

[pearl snow]

yeah thats a little early imo. whats ur highest cr?

[willow verge]

farming in 500 with the warlock rn

[pearl snow]

Nice, I think the others who’ve killed on Uber were low life for the dmg boost and had 3 LP uniques

Not sure what the exact requirements for dos would be since player skill can make up for some of that

[thorn grove]

been working on the armor for my aspirational planner, it's just so hard to get more armor while maintaining health, ward retention, resistances, and feasibility of the gear...

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oX87j9Xo

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (34) / Necromancer (79)

General:

▸ Health: 3,181, Regen: 39/s
▸ Mana: 110.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 203%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 34 Int / 1 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 86% / 86% / 84% / 74% / 84% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 636
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,905)

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Rip Blood

[thorn grove]

i'm starting to think maybe low life is just not the way to go but then if i swap to health and ward then i have no clue what to do lol

this setup would have 6.4k stable ward

[pearl snow]

I think if you go health and ward you do the health regen setup with that new weavers will amulet

cuz you cant barbute.

[thorn grove]

i lose a ton of minion crit multi if i swap the amulet tho

[pearl snow]

true but you gotta lose something if not doing low life kek

[thorn grove]

i cant really find a setup that even nears the ehp of low life tho honestly

[pearl snow]

low life is easiest I think and scales well

what ehp are you tryiing to beat

[thorn grove]

6.4k before any mitigation

[pearl snow]

oh like total life

probably have to do too much to match it

[tired cobalt]

Does Bone Curse have an internal cooldown? I'm testing on a dummy with some skeletons, and I'm not getting the bone curse damage on every skeleton hit, making me wonder if it has an internal cooldown or if the floating damage text just can't keep up.

[pearl snow]

it shouldnt have an icd

[thorn grove]

huh, the radius on that explosion is larger than i thought

i hope that's a guaranteed crit at least too cuz i have 96% crit avoid and it still crit XD

bruh

[wintry flame]

hacker man

[thorn grove]

lol

[sly zodiac]

ok i know this isn;t the right chat for it butt i 100% think they could do a dragoon class with pet dragons

[thorn grove]

hmmm do i keep the 59 and 56 roll i just got or do i try and get 59 and 59

[sly zodiac]

also can i just get an idol with damage while transformed please

[calm dome]

The leveling of bleed warlock begins

[soft spire]

worst roll ive ever seen

[pearl snow]

I dunno about that one

double 69

[thorn grove]

😩

[vivid monolith]

Trash. I'll dispose of it

[thorn grove]

😢

[signal scarab]

My uber kill with Lich machine gun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGserKV7czU

[thorn grove]

ope

[pearl snow]

@obtuse quest under over on Uberroth with Witchfire? I'm finally done doing stupidly weird shit so I'm trying to see if this can actually go the distance.

[gritty cargo]

pale ox

[thorn grove]

I was considering that, just kinda hard to know where to take the build since it's a big swap from low life

[gritty cargo]

I dont know anything about minions or necro

but my full life lich is immortal

[thorn grove]

What minion is it redirecting to

[gritty cargo]

the skeletons that get spawned on kill in the lich tree i think

[thorn grove]

Lol

[pearl snow]

pale ox would only become a problem if you end up killing minions you care about as necro

[thorn grove]

My wraithlord has plenty of leech

I'll have to look into it some more but it still seems really hard to get an ehp above 7k which with the hits I'm taking it seems like 10k+ is needed otherwise going into defense at all is pointless

[pearl snow]

yeah pretty sure thats why Keeper pushing higher is just going giga glass cannon

but you cant glass cannon uberroth unless you just never get hit I guess

[thorn grove]

That's unrealistic for ppl who are 20x as good as me XD

[pearl snow]

🙂

[thorn grove]

It is really cool to be able to comfortably clear 880c and prolly up to 1kc but I just ran out of time today

It's not the fastest tbf but it's safe if you don't dive headfirst into everything

It's funny to get hit for like 12k from a champion or shade lol

[pearl snow]

I wonder if there is a way to be somewhat defensive on Uberroth if you aren't running barbute

[gritty cargo]

Ghostflame lich I'm just spoiled
85% armor, 28% pale ox, 10% shattered world, -34% while channeling, -24% while channeling Ghostflame, Ghostflame inflicts 3 stacks of fragility, 50% doge, 2000 ward per second, etc

[pearl snow]

are you just stacking DoTs?

[gritty cargo]

Just the necrotic and fire damage of ghostflame

[pearl snow]

Ah

[gritty cargo]

Cause the damage of the whole channel snapshots on activation if the button is never released

[pearl snow]

so you have to snapshot every echo?

[thorn grove]

You're taking like 4% of the original damage delt wtf

[gritty cargo]

Yeah it's not really anything tho

Swapping gear isnt needed

There's power to swap gear but everything dies fast already it's not worth the hassle

[pearl snow]

Im assuming you just have ghostflame cost next to nothing

[gritty cargo]

Just transplant for the chronowarp, evade for the nihilis frenzy, spam rip blood 6 seconds, death seal, transplant, Ghostflame

[pearl snow]

been thinking about using it for a DoT stack on ST

[gritty cargo]

It costs 24 or so, and so if I have a auracast bone curse for the marked for death + snapshot the decrepify with pearl swine, I need 34 mana regen

[gritty cargo]

have to transplant to activate chronowarp 3 seconds before activating Ghostflame, because the avion chariot boots will be on cooldown due to transplant, and the More damage from those on Ghostflame is pretty big. Chronowarp lasts 4 seconds and the cooldown on the boots is 3 seconds so as soon as that cooldown drops is when you stop rip blood and cast death seal Ghostflame

There's also more nuisance if you aren't just using flame of darkness rings for the fire necrotic pen, and if you're using juiced julra's stardials, cause the julra's have 4 seconds of effect but 12 second cooldown

The julra's will snapshot 2000% increased damage each if timed correctly

[pearl snow]

ah

[gritty cargo]

But not having the swiftness is annoying on maps so I don't use julra's on map

[calm dome]

What do y'all think of profane orb spec for profane veil? Worth it? Thinking of using it to proc a bunch of bone curse hits

[pearl snow]

its good if you are stacking Curses and dmg

and cast speed

[calm dome]

Yeah I was thinking of just going a curse stacking warlock and just machine gun profane orbs

[pearl snow]

its does well to keep your dps up while dodging yeah

[calm dome]

Leveling as bleed warlock for now. Want to see how it goes

[pearl snow]

Torment loves profane orbs

[gritty cargo]

The profane orbs map really good if you have a zombie infernal shade setup

[calm dome]

Profane veil with infernal shade pops don't run orbs from what I've seen

Don't need since the main damage is shades, not orbs

[gritty cargo]

You profane orb into pack, kills your zombies activating infernal shade, getting kills in the orb, spawning zombies, spawns too much, they die and infernal shade, lots of big explosions

Was fun when I played around with it don't know if worth speccing actual build into

[pearl snow]

an entire build around a traversal skill would feel bad. But it is a great AoE button if you spec that way

[calm dome]

Does profane orb only inherit the conversion of Lake of Blood or does it also get a more multiplier for global on hit bleed chance?

[pearl snow]

I thought the base orbs were coag blood

I forgot what the final verdict was on it but LET says they are base physical without conversion

[calm dome]

They are necrotic base damage

Last Epoch tools just gets the closest but it should show on tooltip ui in game

[obtuse quest]

Only the conversion.

[obtuse quest]

No clue honestly, I think witchfire doesn't do enough damage for uber unless you go hard into ignite and damned

[obtuse quest]

Orb is/was torment's sub dps button for bossing.

[obtuse quest]

Base bone curse does not have a ICD. It also doesn't show up as a seperate damage number, it's added to the normal hit damage visually.

[soft spire]

is ther something in the game where u can reroll the affixes over and over? wondering how u get this

the +48%'s

[obtuse quest]

At a specific woven echo, you can sacrifice a unique/legendary with the same LP to reroll affix ranges.

[soft spire]

ah

[lost gale]

Does anyone know off-hand if minion derived marked for death (eg on minion death from necro passive tree or minion on-hit idols) works with profane veil's spread poison/damned on mark for death application?

[obtuse quest]

Probably not, it says when YOU apply marked for death.

[lost gale]

yeah, I'm assuming it doesn't work

but if someone knows otherwise then... happy days maybe?

[subtle rampart]

Yes.

[subtle rampart]

If you need I can demonstrate build on monolith.

[obtuse quest]

Well, if you haven't reached empowered then I'm not sure if it's okay.

I'm not even sure why you're wearing exsang, since you need your health to be high while in reaper form.

[subtle rampart]

When I be in normal form I restore shield and I restore hp in reaper form I use reap

[subtle rampart]

And passive use rip blood with passive skills warlock cauldron of blood and crimson favors

And exsang we need to more survive in start when I fly into the crowd of mobs

[obtuse quest]

You're not supposed to be in normal form if possible.

[obtuse quest]

You won't have that issue if you have enough health in the first place-

[subtle rampart]

It's very powerful

[zinc jay]

100c for sure 😊

[obtuse quest]

That does look like 100c

[left mirage]

do you have a link to this build?

[zinc jay]

If you check right side on video its will showing right now how much corruption you have

[zinc jay]

Lol 🤣, how we all can do that ?

[obtuse quest]

Exactly

[zinc jay]

Crit infernal shade so good I can't believe

[finite galleon]

😳 🥺 😩

[fleet elk]

Hey guys, I wanna try poison skele rogues necro and I have a question. I know the acolyte leech conversion to damage tech basically applies as generic damage to everything...would that generic increase also apply to minions via Lethal Concentration?

[obtuse quest]

Yes, only because of Lethal Con.

[fleet elk]

OMG, that makes me so excited! Awesome! Thanks

[gritty cargo]

yeah was a while ago when getting the blessings the build isnt done in that vid

[frigid lintel]

Should I go Necro if I plan to build around Sacrifice?

[lost gale]

Sacrifice damage doesn't actually scale with minion stats really, it's just a normal damage spell that kills one of your minions and does damage around where that minion was so most good sac builds i've seen are Lich which tends to be the Acolyte mastery which does the best job of scaling hit damage

but i've never built sacrifice myself so ymmv

[frigid lintel]

Yea, I understand that Sacrifice doesn't really care what minion stats was except one node:

Which is why I asked if other mastery can give more profit

Should I go something like:

• Transplant (maybe I should use Skeletal Mages as traversal so I can teleport minions with me until I get good experimental aff)
• Sacrifice
• Bone curse
• Summon skeletons(well, I have to sacrifice someone, right xD) Well, I can use Volatile Zombie instead

Not sure about last ability

[lost gale]

zombie takes both ring slots and is mana intensive in many ways.

Skeletons can refund you more mana than you spend on them, have a free 40% chance to revive and no cooldown to summon multiple at once

[frigid lintel]

Fair

Hmm, to be fair - I can use Necro tree to get more skele+ lower overall hp and get ward from minions death

Or Sacrifice doesn't proc this one:

Also - does this one from Dread Shade worth it:

[lost gale]

volatile zombies can cast sacrifice on death with a 50% discount, I think that has to be better than dread shade for the purposes

I'm pretty sure you get the ward, it just isn't all that much ward in the grand scheme of things

[frigid lintel]

Really?

[lost gale]

yeah, you get it for volatile zombies and corpse parasites etc afaik

[frigid lintel]

FYI, I plan to use both of this:

So, presumably, there will be more then enough Sacrifice casts even without zombies and dread shade.

[lost gale]

Cruelty is incredibly hard to sustain mana for if you have a lot of minions FYI

cruelty is sort of its own build really

[frigid lintel]

How so?

[lost gale]

well, it just fully automates all your minions exploding all the time, assuming you use minions which generate more minions (eg cycle of putrescence volatile zombies w/ corpse parasites, skeletal vanguards, resurrecting skeletons) then you're spending mana to create things to spend mana on sacrificing

it's expensive

[frigid lintel]

It term of gear?

Or plain mana

[frigid lintel]

Wait, I wouldn't be able to use last bonus from this axe with Cruelty
(which shouldn't be a big deal, but still)

[pearl snow]

You need lots of mana and mana regen depending on your setup

I had a working prototype with just zombies and parasites but I lost a lot of dmg output because mana and regen are prefixes

It could only clear like 200cr max

Granted there a large non zero chance I got a bad setup

Rip blood with mana on direct cast is great for it too

Or a harvest with mana gain on cast from your chest

It allows you to sustain much more

[frigid lintel]

I was thinking about it.

[pearl snow]

You’ll need direct mana gain depending on your choices

If you do blood spectres you end up in the negatives incredibly wuickly

Fun fact bone curse minion wall is hilarious

Explodes the whole thing together does a good burst

But it costs like 250+ mana

[frigid lintel]

Hmm

What about:

With

[pearl snow]

That could work in theory, I never bothered setting it up

But that up front mana cost might be rough

[frigid lintel]

What mastery you were using?

[pearl snow]

All minions die at 2 seconds so thats a recast of 2 seconds

I tried Necro and Lock

Lock was the easiest for sustain

But those nodes are available to you anyways

[frigid lintel]

🤔

[pearl snow]

Lock can get extra curses for the mana on hit but thats about it

[frigid lintel]

Why it's always has to be a red ring -_-

[pearl snow]

Honestly, you don’t even need the red ring to get it going though because although the mana regen is nice, the flat manner percentage from the waivers will ring is really good and can roll mana regen on it

[thorn grove]

Alright, i've been working with the pale ox idea for a bit and i think i have something i wanna try, the uniques are gonna be a pain to get but this is more an aspirational planner XD. it makes use of the armor and reduced dmg from crits instead of the dodge one with crit avoid, the stable ward is about 5.8k with peak ward/s only reaching 750 tho. But now it has, on average roll, 47% armor reduction and the 20% reduction from pale ox in the build, thoghts?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGlwx24o

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (34) / Necromancer (79)

General:

▸ Health: 3,612, Regen: 39/s
▸ Mana: 110.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 189%, Regen: 8/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 1 Dex / 27 Int / 1 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 86% / 86% / 84% / 74% / 84% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 722
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,843)

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Rip Blood

[frigid lintel]

Fair, but still

Wait what?

[pearl snow]

I dunno unless you get the stats for red ring I don’t think it’s better

[frigid lintel]

Well, 1 LP RR isn't enought, right?

[thorn grove]

personal affix, my wraithlord cant move so i move him with transplant

[frigid lintel]

Experimental one would be easier to get, no?

[thorn grove]

that boots affix slot is too valuable

[frigid lintel]

Got it

[pearl snow]

1 LP is massive for a RR lol

[thorn grove]

and with the new arena farming i get one ring every ~30 min

[pearl snow]

Kinda rare to find

[frigid lintel]

I know

[pearl snow]

Gamer?

[frigid lintel]

oh, wait, there is only this one for rings

[thorn grove]

the issue is mainly getting the right base lol, that takes forever

[frigid lintel]

Wait,(I never played with WLord) he can't move as it is?

[thorn grove]

nah i take a node on the wraith tree to make him deal 45% more dmg but he cant move

[frigid lintel]

Ahh, I looked at Dread Shade, and was - node isn't there 🤔

[thorn grove]

yeah it's this one

[frigid lintel]

Funny

Minions are automatically Sacrificed after 2 seconds.
This delay stress me out

[thorn grove]

I've also thrown together a life based build, but i think the low life one has more ehp...

[frigid lintel]

Should I go with Urzil's Pride instead of Pale Ox for Cruelty build?

[empty kite]

How much ehp one needs for Uber Aberoth approximately (assuming a build that doesn't one shot him but fights for like 5 minutes? Or it doesn't matter because most attacks one shot anyway? I didn't see actual fight yet

I'm playing low life, and I have some armor, two red rings, and about 6k ward so far

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[frigid lintel]

Why it's so low?

Or if I hit with it 10 times - it will be 10 mana per pint?

(I mean - if there was like couple of mobs in the area)

[empty kite]

And Singularity idol still works with Flame whip Warlock? The guide I read says it still works with Acid thing, but maybe it was fixed?

[vivid monolith]

Should be, yes, since it doesn't specify that there's a cap to how many things it can trigger on per cast

[pearl snow]

Not fixed yet afaik

[pearl snow]

Next node is the big one. “Missing mana”

[frigid lintel]

Yeah, still unsure if I go for Drain Life for mana or Transplant

Currently have something like this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7vXDbmQ
(Ignore 5 points in River of Bones)

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (28) / Necromancer (54) / Lich (15) / Warlock (16)

General:

▸ Health: 3,334, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 882.94, Regen: 47.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 223%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 1 Dex / 74 Int / 1 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 84% / 105% / 92% / 81% / 84% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 667
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,400)
▸ Block Chance: 19%, Mitigation: 20% (245)

Used skills:

Sacrifice / Summon Skeleton / Bone Curse / Drain Life / Harvest

[frigid lintel]

(as an aspirational planner)

Some of the %mana regen might be replaced after actual testing

I probably should replace amulet at some point (because I should be able to play without those 1-3 levels)

[subtle rampart]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaNZlMNo

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 80

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (41) / Warlock (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,222, Regen: 43.17/s
▸ Mana: 175.78, Regen: 15.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 124%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 31 Int / 5 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 49% / 34% / 75% / 0% / 0% / 55% / 18%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 37%, Threshold: 244
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (254)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (598)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 32%

Used skills:

Ghostflame / Reaper Form / Marrow Shards / Bone Curse / Rip Blood

[subtle rampart]

If you need good build use my lich with bloody physical spells

[obtuse quest]

A good build should be able to clear 300c, are you sure you can clear 300c?

[fleet elk]

A lich without Death Seal =/= good build

[lilac heath]

Noob quastion. How to choose loot filter for build i make? Its pure physical with wraith, skeletons( 2 wariors 2 rogue) dread shade and bone curse. I used few but items are good for nothing

[vivid monolith]

Make a filter to highlight items you want... that's it lol

[pearl snow]

Makes sense, I agree on neck swap

I think Nihilis has mana regen