💀┃acolyte

[candid escarp]

well this build is, admitedly, stupid

[pearl snow]

fair

I dig it tho lol

[candid escarp]

I have an arch death knight with dread shade on

so he hangs out in melee range as I send in waves of volatile zombies

they vomit so they wont instantly explode and also shred armor, so I can pop them with chaos bolt and leave minion damage circles from rip blood

they leave behind vanguards, which the death knight oblates

[atomic atlas]

heres another planner: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYXMWEwB

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,728, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Mana: 169.69, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 170%, Regen: 15/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 9 Dex / 78 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 80% / 124% / 118% / 84% / 116% / 38%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 746
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,655)

Used skills:

Summon Volatile Zombie / Reaper Form / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Death Seal

This build has a guide:

Ante's LE Infernal Shade Zombie Spam Lich Build Guide Showcase by Dr3adful

[candid escarp]

there would be mana issues if my chaos bolts were actually a damage source, but they're only cast as needed

[worldly sage]

Perfect! Thank you so much man 🙂

[candid escarp]

ooh, Julra's Obsession looks like it'd be really helpful

[atomic atlas]

those levels of shade is another 80% multi too

looks like just numbers. 2.4k armor vs 800 for example. ur life is great because that chest is nice tho

and you dont have double life idols yet

the grim book is good too 3lp isnt hard

[candid escarp]

julara drop hands plz

the beatings will continue until you throw hands Julara

there we go

[sand knot]

is there a good guide/vid on the best ways to scale witchfire? kinda wanna swap my warlock to that but it's hard to tell which stats to prioritize

[twilit lichen]

any advise on how to kill uber abby as a chthonic fissure warlock?

[pearl snow]

What are you scaling?

[pearl snow]

Theres a guide on LET

[twilit lichen]

Mostly necrotic res

[pearl snow]

So Torment?

[twilit lichen]

yes

[pearl snow]

If you’ve attempted it yet what is the problem. Dps or defense?

Both?

[twilit lichen]

both

[pearl snow]

Defense wise unless you end up low life you may just get bonked. You’ll need a healthy amount of armor on top of your normal hp / all res at 100% cap

I’m unsure if any Torment has killed quite yet. It’s mostly whippers and lich

[twilit lichen]

I have like 2700 armor and all res cap

[pearl snow]

Dps wise it might just be a long one as long as your gear is incredibly optimized.
3lp uniques etc

Are you low life or hybrid

[twilit lichen]

hybrid

[pearl snow]

Total ehp?

[twilit lichen]

I imagine

[pearl snow]

Resting

[twilit lichen]

need to check really but i get to 6k ward easily and i have almost 2k hp with the 2700 armor

[pearl snow]

6k ward and 2k hp without hitting anything sounds very comfy

Thats a bit unfortunate

You may need to get multiplicative DR somehow. Either red ring or Null Portent to live a bit longer. But as long as regular melee attacks or small hits dont kill you its all up to mechanical play

[twilit lichen]

yep I just get oneshoted by almost whatever on that fight, not sure why

[twilit lichen]

i have normally the red ring and tried null but nothing

[pearl snow]

The amount of torment players attempt Ubberroth is probably less than 20

Currently

1 red ring?

[twilit lichen]

yea probably

[twilit lichen]

yes

[pearl snow]

On paper it sounds like you should have everything

Could attempt to slap on a 2nd if you find one and go

[twilit lichen]

yea not sure if its the passives of or what

[pearl snow]

Drop a couple crit multi nodes or something for vitality

Its really hard to say. Not like I’ve successfully killed either unfortunately

[twilit lichen]

am have been really unlucky with the other one, but trying to get it

[pearl snow]

I feel that I’m still at 0 lmao

[twilit lichen]

I have been testing a lot

[pearl snow]

Maybe you do just have to low life it

[twilit lichen]

well me too

[twilit lichen]

maybe that works at least for damage

[high smelt]

absolute fastest mono farmer?

build on Aco

[pearl snow]

torment or witchfire prob

[high smelt]

thx ill google those

ive gave up on lp red ring and will just farm those for endless gold. and main a build that doesn't use them

[gritty cargo]

Fissure zombie spawner is fast

[obtuse quest]

You mean the node that creates zombies the SLOWEST in the whole game? 2 whole seconds for one zombie? When the zombie rings exist?

[visual girder]

I’m lvl 20 something and I’m using bone curse spirit plague and rip blood with all converted to necrotic dmg, is it any good

[obtuse quest]

For campaign almost anything works.

[visual girder]

Peak

Imma use whatever I feel is cool the

But I just heard that necromancer builds can struggle with dps

Although it shouldn’t be a problem with a ton of necrotic dmg buffs, armor shredding and stacking the other effects

Might swap when I have the levels to an abomination build tho

[gritty cargo]

2 per second with two instances of 33% chance revival

[obtuse quest]

I'm sorry, what the hell are you talking about?

[gritty cargo]

4 / 2 = 2 per second, two rings if you have the sacrifice relic is 33% revival chance per ring

[obtuse quest]

Where are you getting 4?

[gritty cargo]

4 fissures up

[obtuse quest]

Double fissure with the expanded fissure count? That's 142 mana cost without reduction for zombies that still cost mana when you can do it at 1/3 of that cost with enough cast speed by holding down the zombie button.

[polar anchor]

Hey people! I got a question couse maybe i'm doing something stooped. I'm playing infernal shade + cthonic fissure warlock and i'm wandering if it's possible to go for the low life setup with ward generation based on missing health with this spec, or i need to be lich for it to work 😄

[obtuse quest]

You can do it on Warlock, you just need to make sure you don't leech or gain health.

[polar anchor]

also, how does the belt that ignites yourself work? does it burn yourself based on how much ignite chance you have? and am i going to die if i use low life+ ignite?

[obtuse quest]

No, it burns with the standard base damage, ignoring your damage modifiers and ignite chance. It always gives you one self-ignite stack per trigger.

Being on low life or not doesn't matter, since ignite damages you normally(ward then health)

[polar anchor]

ooooooooooooh, that'

is logical, idk why i thought it would dmg my life first XD thanks for the answers!

[obtuse quest]

Excluding effects that hurt you for % current health, nothing ignores ward.

[vivid kernel]

this item is absurd
> 14% chance to say "no"

im not even building for endurance and its already great

[silver night]

Guys, i need suggest with my current stats i got stuck on corrupt 100 (i'm still newbie). The mobs keeps 1 shot me like 1k-2k dmg. Should i back farm level first in normal monolith or just go?

[obtuse quest]

More health/ward would do you more good.

[silver night]

i think i don't have equip that gives more hp/ward

i'm using this item

[obtuse quest]

And you have ward as much as your health, when you're supposed to have more ward than health with that on.

Which means you either don't have enough health, enough ward retention, or enough int.

[vivid kernel]

their previous stat screen shows 40 int, that doesnt seem enough at all

[silver night]

how much int minimum i should have?

[vivid kernel]

a common breakpoint ive heard people saying is 100

that makes sense for some triggers too, like the rip blood trigger in chaos bolt tree becomes 100%

at least when i change gear and all i never let my int fall below 100. There's a lot of passives in the class that give int so it helps

[obtuse quest]

You need both more int and more health. More health= more missing health=more ward per second.

[vivid kernel]

oh yea the shroud scales that way

similar to exsang

actually i think exsang is better? if you find exsang switch to that

[silver night]

where i should farm that equipment first? should i back to the normal monolith and farm the equipment/stats or just try play in corrupt 100?

[obtuse quest]

Exsang is 99% of cases better.

[obtuse quest]

There's a good chance your build itself has an issue if you're having trouble in 100 corruption, to be honest.

[silver night]

yes, my issue is the mobs is like 1 shot me in certain situation. For clearing i did good like my fissure and chaos bolt can wipe the entire mobs except for boss

i tried cap all the resist but still got 1 shot

so for now i need to add more vitality and int right?

[obtuse quest]

Capping isn't enough, you need health/ward, armour and other DR layers.

[obtuse quest]

Health straight up, Vit doesn't give that much health, but helps.

[silver night]

then flat hp?

[vivid kernel]

common advice is always empowered but if you're dying 5 seconds upon entering, you may have no choice

[obtuse quest]

Both flat hp and increased hp. There's a rare affix that gives both flat and increased health.

[silver night]

empowered monolith? Mostly i'm dying when fight the one who can empowered item or mid boss

[vivid kernel]

basically if you can semi reliably do 100corruption then stay there

it was rough for me starting out too, i cooked my own build and had to adjust a lot of things bit by bit

[silver night]

i see, it's noted

or should i just use exalts equipment instead the legendary/unique one?

sometimes the exalt give massive % to stats

[obtuse quest]

You're supposed to use exalteds of stats you want if there isn't a unique you need.

[silver night]

should i use the left one? it gives lot of stats

[vivid kernel]

no you gotta ask yourself, are you a bleed build?

if you dont use bleed, these boots are useless to you

same question for the one on the right, it has a lot of words but are they actually useful to you? do you channel at all?
common newbie trap in arpgs is just wearing full set of unique/legendary because duh its unique/legendary

[drifting temple]

huh?

[solid totem]

You dont need to be a bleed build to use blood of exile, it has great triple stats and high movespeed

It is one of the most universally good unique boots in the game

[vivid kernel]

wait seriously?

[obtuse quest]

Correction: They're useful if you need the stupid amount of possible movespeed.

The stats are a bit more "There's probably better options."

[solid totem]

If you are a stat stacker it is likely the best option

[obtuse quest]

But the movespeed is a good reason to take it.

[drifting temple]

stats are godlike. so i disagree

[vivid kernel]

alright, apologies for being misleading, yea stats are good,same reason red ring is good

[silver night]

i don't really look for the ms, but the str/dex and int the boots give that i need right now?

[vivid kernel]

a little bit more thought needs to go into it basically

[solid totem]

MS is best stat in the game, dont sleep on it

[obtuse quest]

Int and maybe str is the only probably important one for acolytes, dex for you is only for certain builds.

Str gives armour.

[silver night]

i don't really need dex but it's the only boots that give much int and str 😭

[obtuse quest]

dex gives dodge but acolyte has jack all for dodge rating multi so dex is pretty dead except certain cases.

[drifting temple]

there are also foot of the mountain with +12 all attr. but ms will be a problem. thats why blood of the exile is so good

[vivid kernel]

if im not wrong based on the build they are going for they should get that last step boots

works with the shroud

[silver night]

how about the body armor?

[solid totem]

What build are you playing lol

[drifting temple]

well you need to decide what route are you going and what kind of build are you gonna play

[silver night]

i'm playing cthonic + bolt

[drifting temple]

there are many variations

[solid totem]

Not sure why you would use Ox if you dont have minions

[drifting temple]

you can spawn minions its not an issue

[silver night]

even it gives 15 str and 21% hp to me?

[solid totem]

Alot of armors gives HP and Str, Ox is mainly used for the 20%+ damage reduction due to damage redirection to minions

[obtuse quest]

Ox is a good "plan C" when you don't have a health stick armour or one with the skill/rare affix you want.

[solid totem]

Id rather use titan's heart

[silver night]

i see

[solid totem]

40% hp

[obtuse quest]

But rarely as a final pick

[obtuse quest]

Titan needs you to use a 2hander. Ox has no requirement.

[silver night]

this head gives more armor and int but i will lose 80% necro dmg

[solid totem]

It doesnt NEED it, just the damage reduction applies when you have a 2 hander

Again depends if you use minions or not

[drifting temple]

you can use ox with vanguards/bone curse. its not a problem

[obtuse quest]

The left head also has the last affix that is the reason most warlock use it. Do you know why?

[solid totem]

True

[drifting temple]

the problem is you need to decide a route of your build

[silver night]

i don't know, i really new to this game and everything here is really really new to me

so the left one is better i use for now?

[drifting temple]

can you hear me out please?

[silver night]

yes

[drifting temple]

it depends on your build. chaos + bolts as you said has too many variations

[obtuse quest]

He mentioned this, to be fair

[drifting temple]

it says nothing

it can be direct/ dot/ low life damned/witchfire etc

[silver night]

this is my warlock path

[vivid kernel]

witchfire it is

[silver night]

yes

[obtuse quest]

You could have kinda started with that.

[drifting temple]

okey so you will play low life

you need shroud or exsang as body armor

[silver night]

i'm sorry 😭

[drifting temple]

and last steps of the living boots

[silver night]

this shroud?

[drifting temple]

no. with life converted to ward

[silver night]

ohhh ok2

[silver night]

this one?

[drifting temple]

yes

[silver night]

ok i'll try to get the shroud if possible

how about the helmet?

[drifting temple]

try to get exsang it is better ( as body armor)

for helmet it is a hard question and depends if you gonna play reforged set bonus

[silver night]

what is reforged set bonus?

[silver night]

ohh i have that set

[chrome mason]

You can shatter it with one of the woven echos and then imprint it onto any regular (exalted) item like an affix

[silver night]

wait, before that. What about this?

[chrome mason]

seeing the synergy?

[silver night]

i'm not opening that path

[chrome mason]

Wait youre witchfire not torment im stupid nvm 😅

[silver night]

should i open this one? it's still 0/5 for me

[obtuse quest]

It's almost an always taken node for Warlock because you have a lot of necro res as warlock./

[silver night]

i see, alrait

[vapid yew]

Hi, what builds are viable for acolyte rn? Stygian coal? Anything else?

[obtuse quest]

Lich has Stygian coal, Necro has Mage Profane, Abomination, Wraithlord, Archmage, Warlock has Torment, Witchfire, Crit Chaos Bolts.

[drifting idol]

guess i will be farming for my warlock stuff now lol

[icy cairn]

i was tyhinking about getting StygiaN COAL for tormented warlock

[vapid yew]

from that list I see stygian coal, wraithlord, abomination and torment build guides, do you know where can I find rest? like for necro those mage profane/archmage

[obtuse quest]

Profane and archmage are unchanged from last version so check those as well. Witchfire has a LEtools build guide.

[obtuse quest]

Wouldn't really do much I think.

[icy cairn]

then uhh what do u suggest i should get ?

[vapid yew]

which would have highest potential for endgame and abberoth?

hadnt done many acolyte builds in past

[obtuse quest]

Just an exalted offhand.

[obtuse quest]

How much effort are you willing to put?

[vapid yew]

I am playing semi casual cuz of time few hours a day max lately so cant go with hardcore full day farms

[obtuse quest]

Oh not by time I mean "How much effort do you want to put to run the build itself"

Not the grinding part.

As in "How active do you want the build to be?"

[vapid yew]

och ok gotcha so when I see the falconer gameplay or tried scorpion heal spam on primalist it did not feel too good

dont need one button afk gameplay but trying to find mob in middle of packs to heal it for damage is little bit meh for me 😄

[obtuse quest]

Are you willing to take minutes to setup every time you die/ launch the game but gain a super minion that deletes everything but the strongest bosses?

[drifting temple]

play stygian lich then. it is very strong build/good boss killer. even without good items. also very cool visuals.

[vapid yew]

If we are talking about snapshotting I feel like this is abusing not intentional things and do not like the sound of it (like stormcrows)

[vapid yew]

yeah I am eyeballing it trying to get the item itself as no luck for such a common thing 😄

never plaayed lich too so seems kinda cool, tho when it comes online? I saw there is some int stacking

so what is needed other than stone itself?

also maxroll for one to follow is fine or smt else?

dont need 100% hand holding but never played lich so at least trees/items reference would be great

[obtuse quest]

Then Coal for Lich, Wraithlord for Necro, and any Warlock build.

[obtuse quest]

Enough Int and max mana.

[vapid yew]

sorry for being pain but any reference values?

Also I see int stacking is important for alch ladle, also did not found one yet :c

[obtuse quest]

100 int and 200max mana

[vapid yew]

is it possible to run it just with stygian and no mad alch ladle?

until it drops

[prime smelt]

Yes it’s fine

[vapid yew]

cool

some COF action and got 8 stygian coals

any recommendations for leveling builds until coal comes in?

i love to level with skills that id use at endgame but doubt its possible for that one 😄

[drifting temple]

chthonic fissure warlock

[vapid yew]

Until then just ex wand or smt else?

[obtuse quest]

It's fine but there's a good chance your damage will drop pretty notably.

[obtuse quest]

Yup

[obtuse quest]

It's important for coal itself. Each int is 1% faster beam firerate.

[white robin]

do the flame whips of chthonic fissure when you have spine of malatros benefit from spirit nodes at all?

[obtuse quest]

No. Except spirit frequency.

[white robin]

ah, well that's a shame

[obtuse quest]

This also includes anything that relates to Torment. (THey don't work because whips don't torment)

[white robin]

guess you gotta pay for having up to 9 free extra skill points for up to 5 abilities somehow

[obtuse quest]

Well, with the current version it's actually quite a decent bossing build.

[white robin]

yeah i can imagine, trying to make a gimmick build right now with as many extra skills points as possible

[obtuse quest]

I honestly don't know what that does apart from showing the soft cap level for skills, considering we got elemental nova having like 40 points possible.

[white robin]

it's definitely weird to play but it's fun which is all i care about

[obtuse quest]

Fair.

[half bone]

what are the best pet builds this season? (doesnt have to be acolyte) and is wraithlord still the best? did they add any new items that created totally new builds? like wraithlord/squirrels sort of thing from an item

[prime smelt]

Storm crows is probably considered the best

[obtuse quest]

No new minion builds for acolyte. Just abom and wraithlord are top as usual.

[half bone]

any new builds in general? and could you compare abom to wraithlord for me?

all i ever want to play is pets

[prime smelt]

Abom is way stronger but it’s melee

[obtuse quest]

Warlock got a new build, but not pet.

Abom is high effort for high reward, deletes bosses faster than wraithlord with lower clear power.

[half bone]

so wraithlord is still top i guess. melee doesnt sound too fun

zoo style melee is fun but 1 minion melee doesnt sound too fun

[obtuse quest]

It's a toss up. Wraithlord is generic best, but for top ceiling power Abom doubles Wraithlord's top.

[half bone]

since when did abom get that strong

[obtuse quest]

Snapshotting is the short TLDR

[half bone]

i dont like snapshotting

[prime smelt]

Probably way more than double

[obtuse quest]

Gives it the stats to tank actual hits and deletes bosses as if they were butter.

[half bone]

without snapshotting how do they fare

[obtuse quest]

Equal ish. Abom bosses much better but wraithlord is generic balanced.

[half bone]

and primalist isnt close at all i assume

[obtuse quest]

I'm not sure. I don't know the primalist meta.

All I keep hearing from them is storm crow snapshotting

[half bone]

i would pass on snapshotting

thanks for the info !

[prime smelt]

People seem to like the poison scorpion without snap shotting

[obtuse quest]

To be fair that's an old, but strong build.

[prime smelt]

Wasnt my favorite but every patch see people saying they like it

[obtuse quest]

It's also like one of the two only decent poison based builds.

[half bone]

i like lazy builds

wraithlord was lazy enough for me

and good enough to do high corruption

one of dreads runemaster builds that was a walking simulator i wanted to try. nice and lazy. probably the only build i would try that isnt pets

if that build still works idk

[restive wasp]

which acolyte builds can kill uber abberoth?

[lament kernel]

so intelligence gives 4% minion damage for each point...but do you really need dozens of points to reach a simple 100% minion damage from a single item?

[lament kernel]

wraithlord and abomination can do

[atomic atlas]

oh wheel of torment doesnt benefit from fissure torment nodes?

[prime smelt]

i did it with stygian and it's okay but not the easiest

[atomic atlas]

is there a vid of wl doing uber?

[lament kernel]

i dont know

[atomic atlas]

havent seen anyone claim to do it

[lament kernel]

there was a picture yesterday with 80 people or kills using necro 😋

[atomic atlas]

aboms

[prime smelt]

warlock can kill it with the whip build

[lament kernel]

this is for classes killing uber aberroth ^^

wait...that was you? 🤔

[atomic atlas]

lol

i was asking if about wraithlord specifically

[lament kernel]

i thought so because wraithlord is talked to be the strongest acolyte build?

[atomic atlas]

5k corr doesnt mean it can do uberroth

@obtuse quest do u know if wheel of torment is bugged? the torment it applies doesnt benefit from fissure tree nor the fissure it summons

the dmg difference between casting fissure and feast is clear i think

like 10k dots vs 50k dots for my stats

[obtuse quest]

Iirc it only takes the nodes that directly state torment. Which is like 3 nodes.

[obtuse quest]

The known kills so far are Coal Lich, Abomination Necromancer, and Wraithlord Necromancer

[proper summit]

that fire whip with the 2h sword warlock too im pretty sure

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3z8WLJB

[atomic atlas]

wheel doesnt use grimtide (crit multi) and i dont think ti uses twisted waves either.

[zinc jay]

Guys, I want start playing this class , what kind build right now the most powerful?

[vivid kernel]

nemesis be like, ayy u need to play some low life build, i didnt even know 1 empower could give 3 lp
if it were an exsang id actually consider switching

[proper summit]

@zinc jay most powerful by far is abomination necro

[finite galleon]

Yeah 3LP shroud is kinda in a sad place where it's worse than 2LP Exsanguinous for sure, and probably also just worse than 1LP Exanguinous for a large number of builds. Smoge.

Maybe next time it's a 3LP ravenous void

Hopium

[zinc jay]

Ty ,i will try it on right now

[proper summit]

@zinc jay i saw raizqt had some idol tech that made the abom spread poison for clear

flamewhip vs uber aberroth by antenz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkBb2pWsv8

[drifting idol]

does ghostflame warlock work?

[obtuse quest]

You’ll need to figure how to get mana back and what’ll do while having low/no mana

And also your actual damage

[atomic atlas]

i just played around with the nodes and it doesn’t seem like wheel benefits. there’s also some posts online from last year saying the same but i’m not good at math

unspeccing all three (nec res crit multi and ignite) dropped the dot by half

[finite galleon]

AY, I THOUGHT WE WERE COMRADES

What's all this warlock stuff about?

huh?

[obtuse quest]

It should take twisted waves since twisted names torment

The rest iirc don’t

[atomic atlas]

650% nec res multi should be easily noticeable. like you said tho, only twisted and the ignited one mention torment. the crit multi just mentions ailments by fissure.

fissure dot dropped from 60+ to under 10k ish and wheel is 5k. give or take 20% since there’s other dots and debuffs happening

[obtuse quest]

Yeah the necro res one is easy to spot solo.

[lost gale]

So anyone here been working on the penance self curse self hit stuff?

[drifting idol]

i am eyeing witchfire right now

[lost gale]

chaos bolts just applies ailments much faster than ghostfire for getting fast overloads and getting witchfire going, ghostfire doesn't hit for the spread witchfire on-hit part of grimhilde's domain either.

[obtuse quest]

You’ll still need to find a way to trigger both overloads since it only checks on cast and not while channeling

[willow verge]

Anyone doing flame whip malatros build?

[vivid kernel]

hear me out, low life bleed ghostflame
inb4 chaos bolt is still better

[lost gale]

witchfire has very particular scaling which makes it kind of its own build

[obtuse quest]

Chaos is probably better for pure dot

[obtuse quest]

Dr3ad has a video on it

[lost gale]

even with full investment in ghost flame DOT stuff it seems like they've pegged it as equivalent to about two hits per second per target, which is just inadequate for ailments in this game

[obtuse quest]

It’s only good point is that is super defensive in return, tho it’s a debate if it’s worth it or not, even if ignoring the mana issue

[vivid kernel]

theres a lot of warlock skills or passives with options for huge unsustainable mana costs that seem like bait, or maybe its to incentivize a playstyle where you blast then have downtime getting mana back with ripblood

doesn't sound like my idea of a good time tbh

[drifting temple]

well ghostflame has enough power to activate overloads. so the main reason to use it is def/speedfarm/witchfire. not damage by gf itself

with gf idols ward generation is super huge also

there is only 1 problem i can see. and its mana. so you need to use gf mana eff idols or isadora

[woeful pivot]

Why does Cursedboy recommend Firestarter's Torch on his Witchfire build ? I have a good profane wand and I'm wondering if I need to switch to Firestarter

[drifting temple]

because in his guide main damage portion is fire. you boost in with spreading flames/throne of ambitions idol. and any "more" mod is huge because they are multiplicative.

[woeful pivot]

I see, thanks

[obtuse quest]

To add on, it also has the mana cost cut

[obtuse quest]

Gotta pay for the power of massive amounts of procs.

[vivid kernel]

mana has made me pivot so much with my build, yea, im not too sure how i feel about this way of handling things yet, but it is certainly refreshing

[woeful pivot]

Strange, I deal way more damage with my profane wand than with Firestarter's Torch

I also restore all of my health when Witchfire is active, completely negating Exsanguinous

[drifting temple]

you need to use hollow lich passive

about wand. that means you have low chance to ignite/damned that profane wand more is still better for you

so just test while upgrading gear and see what is better for your current setup

there is no holy grail

[woeful pivot]

Oh yeah, I miss this one

[woeful pivot]

Got it, thanks

[drifting temple]

keep in mind hollow lich is huge source of witchfire damage

"melee damage leeched as health" kinda mandatory on weapon and gloves

with hollow lich it will be changed to increased ( global) damage so it will work as increased curse damage for relic

[obtuse quest]

Does that actually work?

I didn’t actually test that

[drifting temple]

well. i will be honest i hope so. because if it's not witchfire is dead build. nobody pushed it to the limits this season afaik tho

[lost gale]

someone on another discord says it does work and that they tested it and it certainly feels like a big damage increase but I haven't mathed it out.

T5 melee leech on a sceptre max roll is 11%, still not better than chance to ignite as a single slam affix or what you want your T7 roll to be

other sources of generic increased damage like the first couple of nodes at the top of the base acolyte tree don't work though so who knows

[drifting temple]

chacne to ignite cant be better that that

because its new multiplier

[lost gale]

have you read grimhilde's domain?

[drifting temple]

and you have like 10000% from ignite/damned

[drifting temple]

😄

[obtuse quest]

It's a 5th choice on a scepter, but it's effectively a must take on gloves if that's the case.

[drifting temple]

it can not be the 5th choice Kzb

[obtuse quest]

Not really, the %inc cursed to more damage isn't really the reason why witchfire sucked.

It's that there was no consistent way to reapply it.

[drifting temple]

i know why it was bad. im talking purely from current state

[obtuse quest]

Ah. Well that mod wouldn't make or break the current setups if melee leech didn't work-

[lost gale]

if you get up to like 400+% chance to damn & ignite then even on a single target chaos bolts will trigger the overload incredibly fast

[obtuse quest]

Oh that's not the issue.
It's that overload cannot be refreshed. You can't spread witchfire if there's no witchfire to spread.

[drifting temple]

it wouldnt maybe for low corruption. its a huge deal for higher 100%. its huge damage multi and its hard to get increased curse damage actually

[obtuse quest]

Three sources directly, the relic itself, profane wand, and sinthina's shard

[lost gale]

is that really a problem with downfall of the righteous? The witchfire itself is on for another ten seconds after the overloads end and you can re-overload incredibly fast with chaos bolts if you're scaling chance to ignite & damn as you should be

[obtuse quest]

Before Downfall existed is what I was talking about. Downfall's important part is that it applies fresh witchfires for you. The inc% curse into %more witchfire is cherry on top.

[lost gale]

I think with hollow lich firestarter is better than sinth reforge

[drifting temple]

ye but wand as example can not be aslamed with melee damage leech.

[obtuse quest]

Oh THAT'S what you meant.

[drifting temple]

also i would like to read about why melee leech is 5th best in your opinion

[obtuse quest]

I was checking then realised there really is nothing else for the 4th slot.

[lost gale]

afaict melee leech with hollow lich is the second best affix after chance to ignite on any weapon

[obtuse quest]

Assuming it only works as inc and not more, it would be a 4th pick.
Now it's effectively 2nd.

[drifting temple]

why do you think chance to ignite is better

[lost gale]

because you get a 10:1 return on it in your chance to ignite derived more multiplier and it's 10x larger than melee leech to start with

[drifting temple]

we need some math here

[obtuse quest]

Raw numbers wise:
T5 max melee leech converts to 72% more.
T5 max chance to ignite converts to 104% more.

[drifting temple]

yes

but iginte chance boost is a litle part

of huge multiplier

and melee leech is new multiplier

[obtuse quest]

Melee Leech is under the same multiplier if we're talking about the %more

[drifting temple]

how so

[obtuse quest]

Because we already have the implicit curse damage from the relic.

It's not "new"

[lost gale]

no, separate more multipliers should be multiplicative

[drifting temple]

i mean ignite chance is part of node multiplier

and leech is part of relic

[obtuse quest]

Converted by the relic? It's already has some, From the relic itself.

[drifting temple]

yes i didnt mean it

[lost gale]

is the more from chance to ignite multiplicative with the stuff from chance to damn?

[drifting temple]

i mean iginte is alrdy part of like 10000% multiplier

[obtuse quest]

They're both more multipliers that already have some, not totally fresh.

And since all more multipliers are multiplicative, they're effectively equal if they already exist(EG. didn't start at 0).

If you make the argument that it's a small number but the original more number is small, then I can see your point, but it already exist so it's equal.

[obtuse quest]

Chance to ignite and chance to damn is additive to each other, but multiplitive to the rest as usual.

[drifting temple]

i know le tools is bad at calulating but they are works good in this case

so as example

no my example failed. well maybe you are right. i can not test it tho

[obtuse quest]

I was about to check if LETools fixed the calculation bug on grimhilde's, but the whole modifier is just gone now

[drifting temple]

btw why its 104

[obtuse quest]

1% ignite chance= 2% more witchfire damage from grimhilde.

[lost gale]

huh, rot grip for VK has all three different scaling options multiplicative with one another. This is so similar I assumed they were multiplicative

[obtuse quest]

Oh wait it's 10%

[drifting temple]

yes

[obtuse quest]

The gap is even bigger then, I calculated at 1 pointer lmao

[obtuse quest]

It's the alt text that tells us.

If it was multiplitive to each other, we'll have about 3x more witchfire damage LMAO

[lost gale]

one area LE tools is allegedly wrong is including generic increased damage other than hollow lich in the increased curse damage bucket for downfall of the righteous

[lost gale]

more than 3x! it's like n^2 compared to 2n assuming you're getting similar contributions from chance to ignite & damn

[obtuse quest]

It should count, it would be consistent. Since generic increased works for everything.

[obtuse quest]

Mostly because we don't have THAT many sources of % chance to damned

[drifting temple]

well i am still not sure ignite is better. need to do some math

it would be brainless

[lost gale]

someone I was talking about that with said they tested it and stuff like dance with death and blood aura wasn't contributing to the downfall of the righteous 66% of inc curse% as more to witchfire.

But they also said hollow lich leech conversion was working

[obtuse quest]

It is kinda brainless. It's mostly the rule of "Unless it's a totally new more modifier, all more modifiers are equal in number"

[lost gale]

I haven't tested either myself though so

[obtuse quest]

Blood aura works or me. Dance with death has the "snapshot ailment" explanation.

Dance with death's triple won't work if you went to low life AFTER applying witchfire since it's already applied. It's the same thing with normal ailments.

[lost gale]

is anyone playing this no-leech warlock with a mandatory relic slot that isn't the regen->ward relic anything other than low-life?

[novel solar]

hey guys, am i blind or is there no % increased curse damage anywhere? if so whats the point of Downfall of the Righteous?

[obtuse quest]

Iirc no

[lost gale]

getting experimental low-life gloves with a T7 melee leech mod on them is a real pain

[drifting temple]

ye but leech also gives increase part

[obtuse quest]

You missed like half the convo but to catch you up to speed:
Relic Implicit itself has inc curse damage.
Sinathia's set shard has 300+% inc cursed damage at T7.
Profane wand has %inc cursed damage as an implicit.
Generic %inc damage also counts.

[obtuse quest]

Which should be a bucket you already have a lot of since it's % inc.

[novel solar]

yeah i started to scroll up a bit and noticed, thanks for tldr

[obtuse quest]

All %incs are additive

[drifting temple]

yes i know

[lost gale]

T7 sinathia reforged is up to 213% inc curse% but it's only available on maces

[obtuse quest]

Which would make it 110%inc + 76% more VS 520% more

Which is absolutely not a contest still

[obtuse quest]

If one were to want to use that shard, you use it on solarum for the fire pen implicit. And you still get % ignite and melee leech. Only losing specter's -mana cost at best

[drifting temple]

ok lets do a napkin math

if i have 15000% more and i do not use ignte t5 its -500%= 14500% 146x instead of 151x.
if i have 270% more from relic and not using t5 leech it will be 200% so 3x instead of 3.7x
before 1513=453x vs 1463,7=540.2x
Tell me where i am wrong. so i can retreat @obtuse quest

my thought process is when 1 multiplier is losing 3% and another is giving 30% it is better

[obtuse quest]

Crap, you’re right

Our mutliplier from ignite and damned is so high that it matters

[drifting temple]

ye that was my whole point

[obtuse quest]

[drifting temple]

like 500 more sounds like a beast

[obtuse quest]

My apologies

[drifting temple]

no no we are not arguing here so no need to.

[obtuse quest]

Unless I’m forgetting something else though we can fit all of them

Melee leech, sinthinas, ignite chance

On a scepter you replace sinthinas with inc dot or -mana cost

[drifting temple]

i dont know what is better actually. but i thing that scepter will be better just because of multipliers. but its like feelcrafting 😄

[obtuse quest]

If firestarters, we do have an additional more multiplier, but only works on the fire portion of the damage since it’s % more fire damage

[drifting temple]

ye thats the issue if it was a global one. it wouldnt be a question

[lost gale]

firestarters also helps with hungering souls for another 40% more multiplier

[olive crystal]

Is anyone doing the wraith necro build by lizard on maxroll? If so are you having issues? It’s my first playthru and i’m struggling. I like the concept and don’t want to bail on it. Any help?

[drifting temple]

eh im not sure it us usable in practice. like on paper ye it is good. but in reality it is so annoying to play

[drifting temple]

wraithlord?

[pearl snow]

If you run HS you just dont bother direct casting cb much

[olive crystal]

No, the wraith build that basically turns your wraiths into fire turrets.

[lost gale]

Should we just be using a 2h weapon here for the huge melee leech & chance to ignite affixes?

[drifting temple]

oh i see the old one. ive played it like years ago so i caoulnt help here actually sadly

[olive crystal]

No worries. It seems i die a lot. Relies on drain life to buff resistances and i just get boned. (Probably a player skill issue). There are a couple pieces i need but i can’t even do 150c hardly.

[novel solar]

is chance to apply ignite on hit the same as ignite chance or no?

[obtuse quest]

You can do the same thing without firestarters, to be fair. Firestarters just makes it easier to get the buff since everything applies spreading flames.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[obtuse quest]

It's weaker since there's better stuff and ward retention got nerfed, you jsut need more stats to cover

[novel solar]

also LET says elemental damage over time doesnt work for witchfire?

[lost gale]

it should work for half of witchfire, the fire half

[obtuse quest]

It should for half of it.

[pearl snow]

It does for half

[drifting temple]

then i guess if i was you i would cap resists without drain life and improve armor values

[obtuse quest]

Pretty much the HS setup.

[olive crystal]

So focus on more ward retention? Or just switch to abomination or stygian coal lich?

[olive crystal]

That’s fair. Thanks!

[obtuse quest]

If you REALLY want to play it, get more ward retention. Or just play wraithlord and let it do the flame wraith summoning for you.

[pearl snow]

Technically you can but I don’t see the benefit for Witchfire over the usual Sin mace Or Firestarters or just a regular wand / sceptre

The offhand provided too much value

[lost gale]

someone I was talking to thought this was about as good as you could get with witchfire

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qd49axyQ

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (26) / Lich (28) / Warlock (59)

General:

▸ Health: 2,420, Regen: 18.05/s
▸ Mana: 152.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 236%, Regen: 337/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 3 Dex / 63 Int / 3 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 179% / 79% / 79% / 104% / 92% / 187% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 484
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (800)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Hungering Souls / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

Coal?

[lost gale]

profane veil damage boost, but with snapshotting I think it's probably not working as he wants it to

[pearl snow]

Its not increasing the witchfire damage so

Anything non global doesnt work

Or like X fire hit

[lost gale]

ah okay

[obtuse quest]

The hell is coal doing here without drain life.

The channeling affixes?

[lost gale]

profane veil

yes

[obtuse quest]

WOn't work. Snapshot, and the while channeling affixes don't count.

[lost gale]

okay

[pearl snow]

Weavers will shield can go great defensively. Or just run a giga ward offhand

Slap on DoT

[drifting temple]

cradle is big for clear i guess always was

[pearl snow]

Ward on block goes crazy plus you cam get Crit reduction there and generic Fire Damage

I think my stash has a T7 crit reduction and phys dmg currently

[drifting temple]

well 1 day i will have time to setup gf with telfuns and cradle in the memory of mr Skurge

[vivid kernel]

damn, didn't know your stash was my stash too

oh wait you were talking about shields

im afraid of slamming this into an LP2 and losing one of the T7s... its probably gonna sit there forever

[pearl snow]

Kek

My favorite activity is saving items for LP that never drop

[willow verge]

I dont forgive my exslteds and lp. I drop I slam

😎

[lost gale]

I think it's worse to have a 4lp and a bunch of almost-good-enough exalteds than a perfect exalted and no 4lp

[spark lotus]

Activating Soul Feast using Pearls of the Swine causes a loop that crashes the game.
Sorry, I'm Japanese, so my English might not be correct.

[worn drum]

so many questions 😛

[earnest lichen]

34k ward what

[worn drum]

basicly imortal

[lost gale]

https://youtu.be/YEZAhu7s-ck?si=H2a71mqxXldAtdRb

This video explains what's going on along with a build featuring it.

and yeah, much like Jousis forbidden POE builds, using this is very unfriendly to the server

[wintry flame]

The self hit stuff will get fixed for sure

[candid escarp]

bleah, I keep getting randomly splat in empowered monos

the killing power's not in question.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br32RXPo

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (58) / Lich (5) / Warlock (13)

General:

▸ Health: 1,090, Regen: 20.26/s
▸ Mana: 205.92, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 237%, Regen: 96/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 14 Dex / 67 Int / 1 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 168% / 51% / 58% / 82% / 289% / 116%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 272
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (619)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Volatile Zombie / Dread Shade / Rip Blood

[lost gale]

I hope they fix it by making it like penance can only trigger 10 times a second or something rather than killing it dead.

Self hit is a cool concept

[candid escarp]

I know cold is overcapped for no good reason, the ambitions is either getting changed or replaced with a less stupidly statted one

[spark lotus]

Thank you! It's such an interesting build, so I'll patiently wait for it to be fixed.

[lost gale]

You can also trigger hungering souls with it or use the ruby fang aegis to get thousands of stacks of +15% fire & +15% poison damage

[finite galleon]

@lost gale HI EMBRYO

Wait you might not remember me

but uhh, i was in the chronicon server too

[lost gale]

amazing game that one

[finite galleon]

[pearl snow]

[cursive parrot]

There isnt a way to fix it that doesnt just eliminate it entirely. If they cap it, it wont be very good anymore.

[lost gale]

30/s cap would still generate lots of ward and stack stuff like ruby aegis way higher than normal builds can

also how are you positive on ward with just four stout weaver idols? I have 5 above 25% chance and I just get killed by penance

[cursive parrot]

Soul feast gives tons of ward on hitting rares. And it proccs like 30 times a second

You can gets even more if you use harbinger shield that has ward on block if you dont go malatros

[lost gale]

I think I must be scaling the penance damage accidentally but you're using hollow lich with the T7 2h leech mod which should be scaling it loads if it's getting scaled by anything at all.

I was killing myself on the target dummies with soul feast specced to generate ward, five idols and a harbinger shield which dropped with T7 block chance

[cursive parrot]

You must have bone curse or penance scaling that is doing too much damage or have bone curse applying armor shred. That will give you -85% armor very quickly

[lost gale]

ah well I'll go check it out again

I'm not sure it's even remotely playable offline, which is what I'm doing, but I want to get it going at least once

[obtuse quest]

What th-

Oh, self hits is the cause?

Oh dear.

[cursive parrot]

Penance is a self hit. It is the loops causing the real issues

[lost gale]

I'm not clear how the guy was generating all the ward in the initial submission to perry's contest though. He wasn't using soul feast or golems or hungering souls and he did have self armor shred and damn going and he was rocking 10-20k ward.

Were his skeletons and shade pop really hitting that fast that he was getting that many penance triggers?

[vivid kernel]

wtf this build is so cool

[cursive parrot]

He was using the unique ring from soulfire

[lost gale]

yeah and that was giving him like ~3-8k ward in bursts but the self hit was definitely shooting him up to like 20k at times too

and he didn't seem to be doing anything that would hit enough enemies fast enough for that to be the case

[cosmic wagon]

What mods are most impotant on Shartted world?

Ohh shit. I just rerolled it ???

[atomic atlas]

niceeeee

i cant kill uberoth yet. old man hands

[pearl snow]

Any + Skills if you can have them prob

[vapid yew]

how do you reroll stats on uniques?

[vivid kernel]

LP3 just dropped im leaving the club 😔

[drifting temple]

all i can trigger with this build is game crash same moment i am placing chthonic fissure on pack of mobs haha

[atomic atlas]

woven echo map. u need same lp unique to sacrifice or a bricked legendary of the same.

[pearl snow]

You were the chosen one

[lament rose]

hallo! im trying to make a Fissure/witchfire/DOT/infernal shade warlock and was wondering does the ghostmaker + to base necrotic damage apply to those things?

[cosmic wagon]

i have 1 too what build does acylote use it for?

[finite galleon]

Use it as part of your abom snapshot set up and waste the 3rd LP like a baus

[cosmic wagon]

LMAO

[pearl snow]

Or play full bleed Lock and stuggle pushing past 500cr

[pearl snow]

The flat necrotic would scale your hits not Witchfire

Its useful for Shade dps

If you wanted to just stack DoT and scale witchfire while using Shade it wouldn’t be helpful

[lament rose]

ohhhh ok. so firestarter torch might be better then?

[pearl snow]

If you run that youd wanna go for Hungering Souls because itll mutliply more dps for Witchfire

Spreading Flames if converting HS to fire will be the possess attribute

Unless you are talking about that 2H

[atomic atlas]

do i redemption this? if only that was spell critical man

or int

[cosmic wagon]

Pretty crazy one ngl. Now it depends what build you playing.

also i feel like its + it was crit multi that was tier 7. you can easily get alot of crit from off hand if you use one.

[atomic atlas]

what uses generic crit chance

[pearl snow]

Anything that crits I guess

Is a big ass item

[atomic atlas]

lol ofc spell crit just so much better tho

[pearl snow]

Tru

[cosmic wagon]

the base is trash tho

super shit

sadly

[pearl snow]

Hey you dont talk trash to my lil baby poison chance that equals that of an idol mod basically

[atomic atlas]

right it would be to slam

[cosmic wagon]

🖕 that relic base

[atomic atlas]

on the 3/4lp ill never have

[pearl snow]

Exactly

Time to keep it

Let it collect dust

[drifting temple]

slam it on grimoire. problem solved

[atomic atlas]

uber abby kicking my ass idk

tru grimoire is nice

[cosmic wagon]

You need help with uber?

[atomic atlas]

all his attacks one shot and i have old man hands. learning curve

[cosmic wagon]

Yeah it took me so many tries to kill him with my whiplock now i have done couple of times. Just made a necro abom to farm him abit for the relic.

[atomic atlas]

whip seemed just as easy no ?

maybe more gear dependent

[worn drum]

Stygian Coal Lich, whats the better helmet?

[drifting temple]

i would play decayed. because even if extra int is better than increase ( idk rly) decayed has huge amount of def bonuses. and stygian lich has no problems with damage like at all.

and all you have for def is armor and your leech pretty much. no block no dodge

(huge amount of dr when sealed ofc but still)

[narrow path]

Is there any easy way to know which nodes from Drain Life affect Stygian Beams?

[drifting temple]

Not rly. But you can check arena ladder and you will see which nodes are used

[atomic atlas]

decayed also helps with the gloves (dot dmg)

[drifting idol]

Mmm missing 3 items from witchfire build then i can finally start lmao

[narrow path]

Yeah I guess, also: Cast speed does not affect them, right? Only intelligence (through the item itself)

[prime smelt]

cast speed is mainly because you want to cast rip blood as much as possible

to stack the spell damage and also sustain as much mana as you can

[narrow path]

I see

[silver night]

guys

i finally can run corrupt 100 smoothly

by change the path into summon skeleton one

literally no more death

[warm prawn]

so question, why does abom necro use Bulwark of the Last Abyss? does the crit buff apply to the abomination?

[pearl snow]

isnt it just for the block chance

[thorn topaz]

Hello, I am following Volca's Maxroll Torment Warlock build and this is not fun at all. Can someone tell me how can I improve survivability on this build? I keep getting one shot at 400C.

Link to my build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o39X37JQ

I am also constantly lock in the animation of rip blood so casting my chtonic fissure can be clunky to play. Advise to improve my survivability will be appreciated.

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (25) / Warlock (66)

General:

▸ Health: 1,442, Regen: 14.79/s
▸ Mana: 256.5, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 209%, Regen: 276/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 14 Dex / 78 Int / 3 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 88% / 88% / 106% / 81% / 723% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 288
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,180)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Profane Veil / Rip Blood / Bone Curse

[pearl snow]

you should only be casting rip blood if fissure is down or you want to stack the buff honestly

You res is quite low for 400c

[thorn topaz]

aND TO clarify I am not using snapshot

@pearl snow even though I overcap it at 75%?

[pearl snow]

you have like 60% in nearly all res

thats not overcap

plus monsters can shred you

[thorn topaz]

How do you see 60%? Its showing me I am above all overcap

[pearl snow]

thats the tool you linked

[thorn topaz]

huh??

This is what im seeing

[pearl snow]

interesting

[atomic atlas]

you can use that ward offhand (oppulent?)

and last steps of the living and see how much ward/life that gets you

[pearl snow]

Ward offhand is really strong, slapping on a shield would be more defensive if you felt your dmg is enough.
I think Ravenous Void is a decent pickup for this build

[atomic atlas]

and some life/ward idols

[pearl snow]

or going low life

[thorn topaz]

Sorry @pearl snow how do I play a lowlife warlock then? Exsanginous?

[atomic atlas]

i went low life with torment

[pearl snow]

Exsang and Last Step of the living boots

change your tree a little to help with health drain and either convert all leech to dmg via Lich node or just dont take any

"Hollow Lich"

[thorn topaz]

Thanks... another day of farming it is then. Do you have a mock up low life torment walock GT tools for me to reference

[atomic atlas]

the chest has too much buffs to swap exsang imo

[thorn topaz]

@atomic atlas precisely

[pearl snow]

going low life without exsang is kinda meh

[atomic atlas]

also the experimental gloves

i have 5k ward with gloves/last step

[pearl snow]

honestly to just stay as is. Maybe try using Ravenous Void gauntlets

Also using Profane veil on cd

[thorn topaz]

Yes I use profane veil as much as I can especially on elites but i always feel I am "stuck" on some animation delay and i cant explain what it is. I dont have this problem with my styian coal lich. my stygian coal lich without any red rings is pushing 600c already

[atomic atlas]

and getting 180 stats for red ring take a lot of gear for torment

300 corr torment speed farm and chill for gear

not much difference speed is better

[thorn topaz]

Oaky so to recap,

Farm for Ravenous Void Gauntlets OR go low life with Last Steps of The Living and Exsanginous

and farm in 300c

[atomic atlas]

those are really rare

[pearl snow]

Yeah, or just go farther into dps

[thorn topaz]

I have a 3LP Exsanginous but have not slammed anything yet

[atomic atlas]

holy

slam those bad boys

[thorn topaz]

Im assuming with +4 to chtonic fissure, increased spriti frequency and mana?

[atomic atlas]

those are bis for that build

cast speed and nec res

ez

[thorn topaz]

Noted, will do the changes and see how it goes. Thanks all for the help

QQ, Maxroll builds scale of crit damage and crit chance, can I continue scaling that?

[atomic atlas]

nec res and crit multi

[thorn topaz]

Thanks

[thorn topaz]

Does 60% DR from Endurance also appy to ward in this case then?

[pearl snow]

nope

Endurance is hp only

[thorn topaz]

blearghhhhhhh thanks

but is it worth having 60% DR from Endurance considering now i have 5K + ward and my HP is always low?

[pearl snow]

its not worth your suffix slots

[thorn topaz]

I took it from the blessing though

[pearl snow]

wont help unless you lose all your ward

[thorn topaz]

Yeah so what i was thinking if i run of ward atlteast that 60% DR will come into play, or am I understanding it wrong?

[pearl snow]

it will but your hp is so low anyways

[thorn topaz]

Ah right.. that makese sense. I will switch it back to the armor blessing then

Or shred necrotic res?

[pearl snow]

Armor is probably best

[atomic atlas]

what do u guys use rune of ascendance on ?

[autumn ridge]

so I know now you can guarantee 1 affix when slamming right? so for 1 LP items I basically need exalted Items with a single good affix. But what should my strat be for 2 or 3 LP items? do I basically have to create a good 4 mod item first? or do I just get 2 good mods and then "too bad so sad" if it misses? Do I choose one or the other strat based on rarity of my unique base?

1. if I do need to create a good 4 mod item first, what's the best strat to do so? Do I essentially need to have the 4 mods right from the start and just upgrade them? or is there something more deterministic I can do besides trying to rune of removal the unwanted mods?

2. does affix rarity affect how often things are selected for slamming? e.g. I have a 2 (desired) mod item into a 2LP. Does it matter which I pick as my guarantee?

[gray spear]

Decoration; I have ~300 in inventory.
It takes too long to use them, and it's annoying to click and drag so many times, then clear inventory and do it again

[vivid kernel]

fr its like the chance orb thing in POE again just have to do it so manually

[vivid kernel]

early on rolling uniques i needed just to have something to use and imprint, worked like... once. its better if it has a higher drop rate I think
now pretty much always on rings for the red ring gamba

all COF favour goes into ring prophecies too, it is what it is

[dark shell]

Considering Isidoras set gives chill, is it worth respeccing into cold for a Cthonic Fissure curse build?

[thorn topaz]

Well, unfortunately after changing to last steps of living and exsanginous i still get 1 shot in 400c. I guess Torment Warlock is only good for 300c farming?

[vivid kernel]

wait i heard this build could push 1000c though?

im just a newb but maybe the people here can help

[thorn topaz]

They did but I still get one shotted in 400C. I just died to the exiled mages randomly with 5K+ward

[autumn ridge]

how would i got about crafting something like this, do I removal first for 50/50 to delete a prefix? then seal the other? or just seal right away and go for 3 mods

[solid totem]

What do you want to do with it, use it as an item or slammer

removal too risky here

[autumn ridge]

ah dang ya think?

then maybe just seal one and craft block % or smth

and then chaos the otherone?

[solid totem]

For slamming I would seal then chaos the other

And pray to rngesus

[autumn ridge]

seal, chaos the other, then craft 4th affix? or

[solid totem]

seal, craft first, then chaos

[autumn ridge]

and if I want to use it?

problem is I want both block % and forgotten knight prefix

[solid totem]

Sealing 1 chaosing the other is still your best bet I think

[obtuse quest]

What would cold do? You’re playing the one class with one of the worst cold support

[obtuse quest]

5k isn’t that much ward. My warlock hybrid had 3kward and 2k health and only gets one shot by posessed mobs at 500c. Do you have other defense layers?

[vivid kernel]

i found that if you have no use for ignite, specing chaos bolt into cold just for %chill was insane value at least, but i cant imagine building around cold

[lost gale]

this isn't like path of exile where you need to do the right damage type to inflict the ailment, chill only stacks up to 3 so a fast hitting skill like fissure should apply more than enough chill without investing heavily into it.

Use the damage type you're scaling and get fragility, chill, slow etc where convenient.

Isadora's set with fissure means you want to go heavy into the inflicting damned with spirits stuff probably

[gritty cargo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ol4lv4Vo
made a zero chatoic fissure warlock
permanent ghostflame channel autobomber
Max doge
Pretty tanky
not casting rip blood or bone shards, so unspec-transplant and unspec-bonegolem can be on the bar

might be good idk

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (34) / Warlock (59)

General:

▸ Health: 4,228, Regen: 19.2/s
▸ Mana: 374.72, Regen: 25.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 400%, Regen: 370/s
▸ Attributes: 46 Str / 29 Dex / 180 Int / 9 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 88% / 88% / 41% / 41% / 209% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 846
▸ Dodge Chance: 33% (1163)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,333)

Used skills:

Ghostflame / Bone Curse / Marrow Shards / Rip Blood / Profane Veil

[gritty cargo]

made a way less creative mode variant only not-common-unique that have over 1 LP is the wand and not every tier is just t7 https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba4rMzeQ

ghostflame channel is 47 mana with no idols

with t7 mana regen on every armor piece available but the wand, it avgs at 35 mana regen, if casting Profane every 10 seconds for 2 seconds mana will be 38 e-regen, on paper ghostflame is on targets and shooting the bone spikes on cooldown and hitting the expected odds of the recovery, there's also the 13% on hit of cursed enemy to give 13 mana 3 second cooldown but this is low and inconsistent so this is just gonna remove margin of error maybe dont count it.
with the bone spikes e-regen will be 42. If depending on that only 11% efficiency cost with idols is needed to not burn out in a minute? and to not depend on autobomb mana recov rng, 26% idol efficiency is needed

then if all those t7 mana regen affixes were all t6, mana regen would be 30 avg, and 36 idol efficiency is needed, with 4 idols with average rolls they give 40

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (34) / Warlock (59)

General:

▸ Health: 3,110, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Mana: 300.51, Regen: 35.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 302%, Regen: 290/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 27 Dex / 131 Int / 7 Att / 35 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 75% / 75% / 74% / 74% / 216% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 622
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (400)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,345)

Used skills:

Ghostflame / Bone Curse / Marrow Shards / Rip Blood / Profane Veil

[dark shell]

That's what my build is about but I'm getting 100% chance to apply damned on hit from my passives already.

Would you suggest I swap out Isadoras or respec into something else?

[gritty cargo]

its unfortunate but looking a lich its hard to give up 34 phys pen, 11% move speed, and reaper form to be able to cast profaine veil, cause im already doging 85% in ghostflame I dont need to have a button to doge 100%

rip to the no fissue warlock its gonna go lich

[obtuse quest]

You can get 200% chance to apply damned on hit to apply 2 stacks of damned per hit. On the other hand, where are you going to get cold? Fissure can't be cold, and the chill only applies to necrotic skills.

[lost gale]

Chance to damn isn't capped at 100%, you can apply more than one stack per hit and you really want to do so.

There's a node in fissure which makes each spirit apply up to 3 damned and then if you have 200% chance to apply damned then you'll put 5 damned on per spirit

[gritty cargo]

if going full damned build if not using build critical uniques on Gloves, Belt, and Helmet you can craft Isadora's set, and get +100% damned and +30% mana efficiency

[drifting temple]

doing only damned makes zero sense because it will be zdps

[thorn topaz]

Nope. Only ward is my defensive layer. This is the link to my build now: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe494DKA

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (26) / Warlock (66)

General:

▸ Health: 1,402, Regen: 16.4/s
▸ Mana: 286, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 270%, Regen: 295/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 14 Dex / 68 Int / 3 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 89% / 89% / 111% / 115% / 665% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 280
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (61)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,019)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Profane Veil / Rip Blood / Bone Curse

[obtuse quest]

Yeah your have way too little health, with that setup 10k ward is pretty possible.

[drifting temple]

how are you even playing low life with these nodes ?

[thorn topaz]

Because i followed Volca's Maxroll guide. He only has like 1.5K HP in that build, then I came here and was advised to go low life with Exsang and Last Steps of the Living

[thorn topaz]

Idk, idk what those skill nodes does. I just followed the maxroll guide lol

[drifting temple]

well maxroll guides not always good. because these nodes are anti low life

also i can not see a point to play low life at all in your crit cb build

you do not care about dot cb damage/damned overloads

[obtuse quest]

But they are required for curse builds.

(Which is why people use Twisted Heart to get rid of the health gain)

[thorn topaz]

This is chtonic fissure focused, also i dont understand why Volca took the swine amulet that gives decrepify when infact this is not DOT focused

[drifting temple]

yes i know i mean its anti synergy makes zero sense

[obtuse quest]

It's an additional curse for things that look for curse effects, and a health stick.

[drifting temple]

tldr do not play low life

[thorn topaz]

Noted, I will swap it out then.. i have zero issues with my stygian coal lich build. Even with no red rings im pushing 600c

but as soon as I come back to this Warlock im just dead lol

[wild sky]

How does bone curse's Oppressive Gaze and Illusion of Pain work together? The duration is unlimited but when hit, the curse is still consumed?

[drifting temple]

ye i would swap body armor for something like urzil with high lp or new pale of the ox with skeletons nodes. for boots telfuns with gf or blood of the exile without. crit multi exalted crit base catalyst for dps. or cradle weaver shield for ehp. twisted is fine as relic but you also can use grimoire for zoom zoom i would also think about wrongwarp

[thorn topaz]

@drifting temple do you think 2LP Urzil will work for now and what stats should I prioritize, health and +4 to Chtonic fissure? When you mention Pale of The OX with Skeleton Nodes, do you mean investing points in the Lich passive tree Harvest Legions?

3LP Urzil will take some time to farm

and what is "gf" ? Sorry im still catching up on these shortforms / abbreviations

[drifting temple]

yes it is consumed

[drifting temple]

my guess and what i was told by the super good warlock once good exalted base will be superior vs urzil at least till 3lp. about affixes its Spirit frequency and +fissure necro res

about ox yes. you are correct

[drifting temple]

ghostflame it is

[finite galleon]

😩 Pale ox along with the int nerf is such a strong reason for many builds to drop the whole low life thing. The stats on that armour is disgusting.

If only I could stop bricking 2Lp ones

[drifting temple]

they also fixed numbers on ox afaik

[finite galleon]

ah shit, as in next patch it'll get nerfed?

[drifting temple]

no i mean numbers were not correct for %health gain

[finite galleon]

ohh

good to know

[thorn topaz]

• Chaos Bolt and not Chtonic Fissure?

[drifting temple]

oh no sorry i just woke up im stupid. fissure ofc

[obtuse quest]

Correct.

[thorn topaz]

@drifting temple since I am no longer running low life should I remove the point from Hollow Lich then

[drifting temple]

hollow lich is still very good. you can get global damage increase and + crit via your acid bane node in fissure tree

[elfin sundial]

how are necro minion builds for late game? just doing my first play thru as one

[obtuse quest]

Mostly single big minions are at the top.

[elfin sundial]

ah thats fine by me, ive speced in to most single/bigs , ty 🙂

[wispy bramble]

is anyone playing a minion necro build that can clear uber abby atm without snapshotting? dont wana play wraithlord or abom ether :(

[fiery plinth]

I am a new player . Can you please tell me how to improve set passives and skiles under Necromante milions

[obtuse quest]

You're kinda out of options.

[obtuse quest]

Set passives can't be improved, they're fixed.

[wispy bramble]

theres really no other necro builds that can do it without snapshotting?

[obtuse quest]

EVEN with snapshotting there's no other builds that have done it so far.

[wispy bramble]

didnt actionarpg beat it with arrons will golem build? duno if he snapshotted or not

[obtuse quest]

That's abberoth, not uberroth.

[wispy bramble]

ah damn thought he did ubber with it lol

[thorn topaz]

@drifting temple still pointless. At this point I am done with Torment Warlock. I think I have respecc'd twice now and results are not getting better. This is in 350C, and my mana is just draining non stop. Im going back to my Stygian Coal..and this is not even a crit lol

[obtuse quest]

Possessed enemies have double damage and double health. Most builds can't take a big hit from possessed enemies.

[thorn topaz]

@obtuse quest I realised they spawn frequently in a echo where you are farming for a set or unique item. Very smart from EHG... lol

[obtuse quest]

It also depends on your Weaver Tree, since that can up the rates of them spawning.

[thorn topaz]

Yup I didnt invest points in those nodes

[elfin sundial]

@wispy bramble whats the abom build?

[dry bridge]

following the maxroll stygian lich build, is 10 points in this really necessary?

[wispy bramble]

the one every1 is playing

but cba do snapshotting

[elfin sundial]

@wispy bramble im pretty new to it all, this is my first char, just found the build tho

[chrome mason]

If you know what youre doing/specific bosses? yes. If youre speedfarming or running abby? no.

[dry bridge]

huh, not entirely sure im following xd

does it add to offense? or just defense

considering if u know what ur doing and have hands u can probably go for more damage if this offers no offense

but im not sure if it has any funny interactions with something im not aware off

[wispy bramble]

enjoy

[elfin sundial]

@wispy bramble yea that doesnt look fun LOL

i dont have snapshop gear and main gear yet

[wispy bramble]

aint catchin me doin that before every boss fight

stupidest thing ive ever seen in my life

just to summon a single minion

[elfin sundial]

il see how far i can get, and propaly give lich a try

i didnt know there was that much to it haha

[wispy bramble]

arrons will is also kinda hard to get

[drifting temple]

rip i guess. for mana sustain you should use wandering spirits/auto harvest tho

[chrome mason]

it adds insane defense to phys and necrotic dmg, but since its conditional after potion use, its only valuable if you know to pop a potion before you get hit by a physical or necrotic hit

[drifting idol]

another day

another farming session

[stoic stream]

Hey guys, I just started my first acolyte necro and for my skeletal mages I speced into Death Knights. However, I keep raising mages. Anyone got a clue what I might be doing wrong?

[cosmic wagon]

Dont mind that dmg. Golems oneshots almost everytime that dmg is scaled wrong or something lmao.

[warped steppe]

Is Profane Oblation bugged? When I check the scaling tags it doesn't say minion.

[thorn topaz]

Interesting concept, should I remove Rip blood or transplant then?

[atomic atlas]

ye torments weak. its defense is zooming around

i dont use rip blood unless its in tombs vs possesed rare mobs or a boss

or need a little mana

[obtuse quest]

Relog, possible bug

[obtuse quest]

Because it's treated as a generic spell when you're looking at it's tooltip, not a minion's spell.

[atomic atlas]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/fraca/character/worse

any minmax tips? am i inting with those gloves? I took the node for leech to be dmg

[cosmic wagon]

ngl i would rather go spirit freq instead of fissure level because they nerfed it if i remember correctly.

Also you have alot of crit multi but 13% crit chance? Maybe get the skull catalyst for the crit base.

Just by getting this base you go from 13 to 23.

[atomic atlas]

ye the offhand needs work. just thought it was pretty cus it dropped with that fixed affix

crit chance for torment? i guess the bolts do good dam

also getting another 35% crit from poison damage.

• acid skin

crit multi scales torment damage insanely well so icant drop any unless bolts is just better

those nemesis offhands can be insane tho

[cosmic wagon]

You aint snapshooting right @atomic atlas

[atomic atlas]

with the idol ?

na

but yeah thats like another 20 % ?

[cosmic wagon]

if you have over 800% overtime dmg in posion you should be crit capped.

if i remember correctly.

i forgot about acid skin completely

You also need to pump up the necro resist numbers

632% is great but since you dmg and def cuz of it this need to go up 📈

[lost gale]

if self curse penance is overpowered then who is brave enough to take on hard mode: self curse acid skin

[vivid kernel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3m4GnEQ
alright i pushed this direct cast chaos bolt bleed warlock to 250c, 300c is doable but very uncomfortable (a little slow and squishy)

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 98

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (32) / Warlock (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,360, Regen: 12.82/s
▸ Mana: 323.5, Regen: 16.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 337%, Regen: 325/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 29 Dex / 113 Int / 5 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 104% / 127% / 116% / 110% / 322% / 113%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 25%, Threshold: 409
▸ Dodge Chance: 9% (278)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,073)
▸ Block Chance: 39%, Mitigation: 23% (360)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 73%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Chaos Bolts / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chthonic Fissure

[vivid valve]

Who here currently mains wraith lord

[drifting idol]

took me 4 tries to drop the 50% from the timeline boss 💀

[atomic atlas]

u didnt take the 250% pierce node in plague?

[pearl snow]

Its rough, I think mine can only do 300c reasonably and 400 just constantly dying lmao

[vivid kernel]

i attribute it to my own building skill issue
in hindsight i think i hodge-podged a lot of things together defense wise and there's no synergy. Like im pretty much wasting the endurance, health gain on kill, health leech affixes on my uniques

[vivid kernel]

actually good point... i should try that

[vivid valve]

Wondering how far wraith lord players got in corruption for this season

[vivid kernel]

i forgot about it entirely, i was worried about bleed health loss

[pearl snow]

Wraith lord should be very high

[obtuse quest]

Keeper hits 5k.

[vivid valve]

I dunno man that is last season videos

Ward seems way way lower now

[pearl snow]

I like Salt the Wound for bleed gloves honestly if you can fit in more crit multi

[vivid valve]

I want to see videos from s2

[pearl snow]

Ward is just harder to get high resting values. But we have way more powerful crafts and suffixes

[obtuse quest]

Ask him yourself @gray spear

[cosmic wagon]

The thing with ward is the higher you go in corruption the more ward you get from the relic.

[pearl snow]

Oh drop points in Cursed Limbs from Bone Curse and grab Marrow Thief Armor gain by the bleed nodes

[vivid kernel]

interesting, ive been neglecting crits entirely

[pearl snow]

Salt The Wound adds Bleed Pen per crit multi

Id ignore crits entirely

[vivid kernel]

a lot of knowledge gaps, well expected sinec its my first time playing this game, so much good advice here tho

[vivid kernel]

i see, you're right cursed limbs is kinda just quality of life, can be self casted

[pearl snow]

CB casts it

[vivid kernel]

oh but its like, 6 second CD right

[pearl snow]

I think every 6 seconds

Yeah

[vivid kernel]

its very annoying when you're going from pack to pack

and then it doesnt cast because youre going too fast

[warped steppe]

I got another Profane Oblation question: Is it worth stacking mana for Skeletal mages to get benefits from the Forbidden Arcana node in the Skeletal Mage tree?

[vivid kernel]

i wonder why they made it 6 seconds instead of just on hit, weird

[pearl snow]

True, ideally it shouldnt be needed for little mods

You could make a crazy crit idea with it imo

If bone curse was every hit

[vivid kernel]

oh yea.. and then there's that falloff node that you could abuse

[pearl snow]

Plus you fire like 5 bolts

Each hit independently

Cap that crit reduction too

[obtuse quest]

It IS more damage.

[obtuse quest]

Because then there'll be no downside to using Illusion of Pain.

[vivid kernel]

ye i just picked this up and tweaked it, crit avoid is capped now
this is another synergy thing, should have went with crit reduce damage, because that also gives armor

i dont have any dodge besides concidental stuff otherwise

how do yall farm LP timeline boss unqiues, is it just keep running the timeline + nemesis and pray?

cause thats what im doing right now

[pearl snow]

Yeah you can use Envy Glyphs mow to speed it ip

I also got another idea on your passive tree

Drop all the int points from that Lich Node.

Take 5x for Wither in the Lock tree.
You’ll have 2 more points freed up, offensively I like Spiteful Decay which you only took 1 of, or just picking up more vitality via Imperishable

I’m in the camp of dropping 3 points from that Bleed node in Lock you have 8/8 in simply because CB bleeds a lot and getting Spiteful Decay to 5/8 for the more dmg multiplier against cursed

But that’s preference imo

[vivid kernel]

might as well give it a try, its easy to switch around

i wish there was a dps calculator for the dummy at times like these, but going by gut feel the changes to spirit plague/bone curse and the passives do feel pretty impactful

[pearl snow]

Yeah its rough sifting through numbers

[zinc jay]

Why abomination necromancer so bad ? I can't even do my first maps

[gray spear]

@vivid valve sure, I'll post a couple monos from 5k this season.
It's much harder, but once you get a couple kills for ward, it works.
I still can't do uber aberroth though, which is why I haven't updated the guide yet

[obtuse quest]

Did you actually feed it minions to eat?

[zinc jay]

How to do it

[obtuse quest]

Summon minions, then while channeling abomination, channel on top of the minions.

[zinc jay]

What's channeling?

I don't have any summon minion skills

[obtuse quest]

Then how are you summoning abom?

You can hold down the button for abomination, that's channeling.

[zinc jay]

Only abomination summon

Not small minions i mean

[obtuse quest]

Then your abomination will be weak because it didn't eat minions.

[zinc jay]

Its is , just couple shots and its dead

So I can't up more than 100 corruption

[obtuse quest]

The whole point of abom is to make a super minion by eating small minions while it'ss being summoned. That's the whole thing for abomination.

It gains health and damage for each minion it eats.

[zinc jay]

So what skills i need

And passive tree

[obtuse quest]

Any other minion summoning skills.

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oleqkY6A i use this

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 4,689, Regen: 1,302.72/s
▸ Mana: 189.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 263%, Regen: 588/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 29 Dex / 49 Int / 9 Att / 47 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 82% / 82% / 92% / 89% / 231% / 111%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 1,018
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (158)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,611)
▸ Block Chance: 90%, Mitigation: 42% (1,428)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Assemble Abomination

[obtuse quest]

I don't-

Oh./

I recognize this.

Hold on.

[obtuse quest]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/abomination-necromancer-guide

Maybe read and properly follow the guide.

[zinc jay]

Yea i use it before, summon mages and skeleton, after that abomination

But enemies just eat me, so everything dead

[obtuse quest]

That's why you do your best to not get eaten by changing the gear.

[zinc jay]

Not possible, regular monsters just destroy me, not even high tier mobs

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, then there's something very wrong with your build.

[zinc jay]

What should i do

[obtuse quest]

Either learn the build properly (the equipment set only makes you tanky but makes abom do nothing) or swap to another build.

[zinc jay]

So first i need strong snapshotting gear

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[zinc jay]

Will be really tough get it

[slow gorge]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/rta330j7
What can i improve here? Been getting better but still feel kinda weak at 488 corruption. Cant get my hands on red ring which i think would make all the difference.

[vivid kernel]

This spoon is insane, just raw it already matches my current wand's speed
there is no reason i wouldn't want to smash that cast speed onto it and start using it right?

[obtuse quest]

Better ladle slam

[slow gorge]

What should i get on it?

[fiery plinth]

Would you recommend any current build under Minions for a beginner player ?

[pearl snow]

Its very nice for cast speed and debuffing. Unfortunately the spell dmg wont help your bleed. But for your use case it is giga casty

[vivid kernel]

what an unhinged weapon

this seems like it would be BIS for so many builds

[obtuse quest]

Coal? Spell Crit chance and crit multi.

[pearl snow]

It is very good ya lol

[obtuse quest]

Spoon doesn't give flat, so it isn't an auto pick

[vivid kernel]

luckily my build is physical so the flat doesnt matter, appreciate the sanity check, smash it is

[obtuse quest]

What? You mean DoT?

[vivid kernel]

yea i direct cast physical chaos bolts to apply bleed

[obtuse quest]

Then I guess the cast speed is the reason you use that

[drifting idol]

so uh what is the skill selection for witchfire build?
chaos bolt, profane veil, cthonic frissure and other 2 will be?.....

[pearl snow]

I have a guide on LET. But its preference outside those 3 technically. Transplant is good for defense via Bone Armor node.
Bone curse can be used to reduce enemy defenses & give instant kill threshold.
Spirit plague gives dps and ward generation on hit

Hungering Souls can also be used depending on your weapon

Hell if you wanna get freaky even slap on Volatile Zombie and the putrescence ring

[obtuse quest]

Note that with this one, also bring Infernal shade for maximum profit

[deft scarab]

new to the game, and new to the class :)
trying out warlock, and have most of my skills converted to poison versions
anyone else here ever play around with a poison-based WL?

[pearl snow]

Poison used to be very popular

[obtuse quest]

Poison has inherit issues you will find out once you hit empowered.

[deft scarab]

oh lol ofc 😭

im only lvl 30 so rn it just feels good

is it still viable endgame or nah? one of the biggest reasons i got LE was because people keep saying basically any build can be viable to push endgame content n stuff

for reference, i just started, im not trying to conjure up a build to defeat that new uber boss or anything like that- just wanna feel comfortably powerful as i push up through engame stuff :)

[wise basalt]

Can I snapshot my necro to make it tanky like a shield or something?

If I need to change my whole gear every time then I will not do it

[obtuse quest]

You can hit empowered and a bit after with poison, but beating abberoth is pretty hard with it. Poison in general just sucks everywhere.

[obtuse quest]

You can't really snapshot yourself.

[wise basalt]

Yeah I mean I summon my lord with my standard gear and then change gear to make myself tanky

[deft scarab]

i never followe guides, and i swear everytime i decide "this would be cool!" in an ARPG, i find out its broken or doesnt scale well... fmlll lmao

[vivid monolith]

You can, but wraithlord is on a timer before it dies

You'll be swapping a lot lmao

[obtuse quest]

That' snapshotting basically. But if you wraithlord dies you'll have to resnapshot again.

[wise basalt]

Well depends on corruption or not?

I play 320 or something and he's basically invincible and can stand in bosses attacks

[vivid monolith]

Yes, but tbh you shouldn't be getting hit by bosses much either

And idk how you're not tanking at least single hits

Monos and uber are more dangerous

[wise basalt]

Yeah but I die because of the dumbest things and it's annoying lol

[vivid monolith]

And as your tank becomes unreliable so too does the WL's

Since he will die as the shade ramps

[wise basalt]

When I do mono after mono my brain goes afk and sometimes some enemies spam very fast attacks and I just stand there and die without realizing lol

[vivid monolith]

Yeah... I play wl in monos like an overconfident tank pulling in mmos

Just run ahead and transplant to set up a few packs dying

I don't have the affix for reducing traversal cd though

[wise basalt]

Yeah, but sometimes some sneaky mf still gets me xD

I'm glad there's no real penalty for dying except the mono rewards I don't need anyway

[vivid monolith]

At least they fixed tangled beams

My mono death rate has almost hit 0 now

[wise basalt]

And I guess going from usupers mandate to reach of the grave so I can use an offhand would reduce my Lord's damage brutally right

[vivid monolith]

Quite likely, but considering wl can hit thousands of corruption it probably doesn't matter lol

[wise basalt]

lol

Are the red rings useful for wraithlord build atleast for myself?

[drifting idol]

is there any point in speccing into bone curse when chaos bolt auto-procs it

[obtuse quest]

You don't get it's other stuff like armour shred, kill threshold, marked for death, etc. (The proc also has a cooldown.)

[drifting idol]

what about the necro damage

[obtuse quest]

Can't get it unless you spec it, since they're spec effects.

[drifting idol]

wait, so you are saying i would get the spec effects when i use chaos bolt to proc it?

[obtuse quest]

Yes? If a skill procs another skill that you can spec, it will be casted as if it was specced.

Eg: Fissure casting Chaos Bolts will let the Chaos Bolts take any Chaos Bolt effects that don't say Directly Cast

Yes, this means by pressing Fissure, you can proc CHaos Bolts into Rip Blood, Bone Curse, and Harvest.

[drifting idol]

so thats why i see people spec into harvest 🤔