they don't cast it
#💀┃acolyte
obtuse quest
Too bad, read the alt text, they don't use your version.
candid escarp
oh rip
well we can scratch that off the list, still like the idea overall
also theres no alt text on thaty
tender ridge
if you look at the spell they cast on LETools, it's a different spell
candid escarp
thank you, didn't know this
obtuse quest
The bottom text also writes Haunt instead of Hungering Souls
(They forgot to change the desc)
tender ridge
I think at one point they wanted Death Knights to cast your Hungering Souls, but changed it later
candid escarp
well I'm glad I ran this idea past people first XD
tender ridge
i kinda want to play a poison build or some kind of spreading DoT that I can mindlessly farm with while my sims for work run
candid escarp
rip blood converted to necrotic can prolly slip in there, would still need to figure out my 5th
vivid monolith
Do you swap out any gear from your build in s2? Like using weaver necklace etc
gray spear
Define snap shot
vivid monolith
Equip gear, summon, swap gear
gray spear
Do you swap out any gear from your build in s2? Like using weaver necklace etc
A few things, but not much. There are better idols now that give penetration, and I'm trying orian's eye sometimes for fighting Uber because the beams do so much damage
vivid monolith
Presumably not because that'd be a pita with wraithlord
vivid monolith
A few things, but not much. There are better idols now that give penetration, an...
Yeah idols make sense, was curious about the mainslots more. Don't have full blessings on my necro yet to actually use the good idols yet zzz
gray spear
Equip gear, summon, swap gear
Oh, then no. I just use the gear that's equipped
vivid monolith
No good weaver amulet to replace sacrifice, or you don't think it is worth? Thought maybe it'd work but idk how stats in this game work tbh (small brain)
tender ridge
Oh, then no. I just use the gear that's equipped
based
vivid monolith
Snapshot w wraithlord would be awfully clunky probably lol
vivid valve
How does WL not die at 4k without snap shot
tender ridge
relying on gear snapshotting for any minion build is a crutch
vivid monolith
How does WL not die at 4k without snap shot
Good hands
gray spear
How does WL not die at 4k without snap shot
It can, but you can teleport it to safety while it kills everything.
Technically, julras ring snapshots after teleporting; that's quite strong
candid escarp
my biggest debate with the build since I don't use dread shade that much is do I wanna leave it group affecting and draining, or do I wanna go like archmage for one massive knight who doesnt get drained
vivid monolith
my biggest debate with the build since I don't use dread shade that much is do I...
I did archmage (not knight) for a bit w single shade and it was funny af seeing him shotgun enemies rapid fire
vivid valve
Thanks I'll try this build out
vivid monolith
Ymmv but it is at least entertaining
candid escarp
5th skill prolly bone golem, transplant, or spirit plague
vivid valve
I'm fine with 1000 corruption. So if he said he did over 2k or shouldn't be hard 🤣
vivid kernel
so when yall got the build fully running how many minions do you have out at once?
i was considering making an army build before pivoting to warlock
candid escarp
transplant'd prolly be an easy pick if it left a vanguard or warrior behind XD but bone minons don't get bombed by mages
vivid valve
If I did snapshot for WL, what rings would I use after the switch
obtuse quest
so when yall got the build fully running how many minions do you have out at onc...
Most builds run... one big minion. WL is effectively focused on the lord himself.
vivid kernel
that was... anti climactic
but i suppose it makes sense
oh if the minion dies do you lose all your gear?
candid escarp
Most builds run... one big minion. WL is effectively focused on the lord himself...
so I'd prolly end up with the archmage knight in the long run?
vivid kernel
like the POE animate guardian thing
obtuse quest
so I'd prolly end up with the archmage knight in the long run?
Unless you need a mage army for something like profane, yyeah.
obtuse quest
like the POE animate guardian thing
No. There's no such mechanic.
candid escarp
I was going to be using profane oblation, yes.
dense loom
appreciate the update, thanks a lot! seeing wraithlord pushers is really nice and still shows the absurd power of many very very offmeta builds
obtuse quest
At worst, some minions take a copy of your stats (on a ratio or not)
obtuse quest
I was going to be using profane oblation, yes.
Then an army of mages is more efficent since they cover more ground and has more casts overall.
obtuse quest
There isn't a cooldown. But it does have a cast time.
candid escarp
ah fair
vivid valve
Wtf I saw someone on YouTube make a ste stack cleaver solution wraith Lord build, why?
With bastion too
Is that good idea or he just memeing
tender ridge
strength gives you a lot of armor and cleaver solution turns it into int
it's for scaling your ward easily since armor applies to that as well
plus you don't care about not having spell damage from a wand/sceptre/staff since it's a minion build
finite galleon
like the POE animate guardian thing
BACK IN MY DAY IT WAS CALLED LOSING A PRIDE IRON GOLEM, BEFORE ALL THAT POE CRA-
Nvm, nvm
finite galleon
so when yall got the build fully running how many minions do you have out at onc...
btw if you hop on the abomination hype train, at least at some point during the summoning process you get to have enough minions that they start bumping into each other by just standing around
so there's that
vivid valve
plus you don't care about not having spell damage from a wand/sceptre/staff sinc...
Oh I see. He is also snap shotting.
Is there a guide on how to snap shot for WL
tender ridge
oh I have no idea. I refuse to use it. they're actively working on removing the ability to snapshot
vivid valve
I wanna use it before it's gone then 🤣
Unless it's too annoying. The Abom one looks very annoying
tender ridge
snapshotting is annoying no matter what. people complain about it constantly when you can play minion builds without it. you're just not gonna push thousands of corruption with most minion builds because your disposable minions that are designed to be easily resummonable are dying
pearl snow
BACK IN MY DAY IT WAS CALLED LOSING A PRIDE IRON GOLEM, BEFORE ALL THAT POE CRA-
Back in my day we ran Animate Guardian without all them uniques like the kids have these dayd
Lmao
finite galleon
I wonder if there're any actual kids playing poe
pearl snow
Ugh I have to overall like 3 different versions of Chaos Bolt Warlock. Don’t make guides friends you end up having to overhaul them on season launch
vivid valve
Does int increase WL dmg
obtuse quest
Does int increase WL dmg
Yes.
visual girder
My build is so silly but it’s kinda fun
I just curse the enemies
So much
And the golem whoops them
finite galleon
@obtuse quest Kzb sama how do you propose to deal with the despair that stems from me being a dumb dumb, not reading through that farsight turtle something something weaver echo's description, putting my one and only 40 conversion 64 ward retention vessel of strife in there thinking "Hey, if I can only use this thing once, it's gotta be this one", and turbo bricking it as a result?
The last 80 Julra runs have produced straight garbage, and now I'm almost out of other keys to be turned into portal charms
NotLikeThis
finite galleon
I just curse the enemies
It sounds like the skill points on bone curse is going to be kinda tight. How are you distributing it?
pearl snow
Oh oh no Saltu
vivid valve
Lol
pearl snow
Farsight Turtle is an ass
finite galleon
True, true. Maybe if I keep feeding more things into it in the future, it'll actually produce something useful Clueless
pearl snow
Its worse odds than a basic drop but allows mass gambling
I’m probably throwing in a full inventory of the Anguish Ring soon lmao
finite galleon
Yeah it's not like those 1LP things were doing anything meaningful anyway
pearl snow
I hold onto 1 LP Barbutes because I need like 4 diff ones just for build testing lol
Otherwise gambling poggers
finite galleon
the single poe player who's least addicted to gambling be like
also why do you need 4
pearl snow
Bleedlock WIP atm, Witchfire lock, Flame Whipper, and a generic flat int for testing things on
🙂
I always end up not pushing and just trying to make builds because Last Epoch lets you actually do it on 1 toon
finite galleon
Noice. The cycle of theorycrafting and testing do be pretty fun sometimes, as long as it's not one of those weirdchamp hard-to-detect keep-your-eyes-on-the-screen-without-blinking-and-you-still-might-miss-it stuff.
pearl snow
Thats how I feel with the entire community not realizing the Leech to Increased damage tech of Flame Whipper
Its been there this whole time and we just missed it lmao
finite galleon
I'm completely clueless to what you'ré talking about kekw
vivid valve
Why do WL builds go low life
obtuse quest
<@133488669435625473> Kzb sama how do you propose to deal with the despair that ...
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pearl snow
The Lich node that converts all leech to increased damage. Basically it will take all leech even Melee Leech on weapons / gear and convert it to flat Increased Damage.
This means it scales your % Poison and % Fire
It gives uou like 70% base critical chance
obtuse quest
Thats how I feel with the entire community not realizing the Leech to Increased ...
Hollow Lich? It's a decent tech with an issue of it being inc damage so the base HAS to be decent. (Does solve the acid skin issue.)
pearl snow
And nearly 1000% increased fire damage
pearl snow
Hollow Lich? It's a decent tech with an issue of it being inc damage so the base...
Yeah
We all missed the acid skin conversion for a whole season. Granted I was giga afk when harbingers first came out
So I’m a bit behind
finite galleon
The Lich node that converts all leech to increased damage. Basically it will tak...
Tevonsonte, Trailblazer
obtuse quest
We noticed it during 1.0, and so some guy cooked CB crit, but most deemed too high floor to build properly so it got shelved.
1.1 came with crit cb tech, and it was a niche setup.
pearl snow
Dirtbag was the hero who forced it to work for Flame Whip this time
Ah I see
I was a 1.0 Flame Whip tryer and it just failed
obtuse quest
Mostly cause the gear for it was oof paiin
pearl snow
Shoulda paid more attention
Oh yeah it still sucks LOL
in fact it just got harder for the top end because set slamming
Lmao
The goal of T7 set rings 
obtuse quest
Exactly! But now the floor is somewhat lowered by the LP change so it's more doable now.
pearl snow
Yeah dirtbag at 1k his gear is absolutely nuts
obtuse quest
it is what it is, but it's a doable build now.
obtuse quest
Unlike it being a pipe dream to even get a base, the base isn't that painful now.
pearl snow
Tbf if you suck at loot filters you aint finding anything
True
Except those Armor applies to DoT gloves. Those dont exist
obtuse quest
LMAO
pearl snow
Bleedlock feels dummy squishy atm. I wish normal hp on acolyte could work we have so many ways to gain hp but never enough flat hp to live a big hit
Gunna have to play barbute again sadge
obtuse quest
Either we play hybrid or we do lich things, sooooo
barren lintel
brewmaster + immortal vise or grasp of the blood should carry even life warlock
vivid valve
Is there a setup guide to snapshot WL. I see several Abom guided
real hill
Can I easily check the max amount of skeletons I can summon?
My build guide says I should be able to summon 3 golems, but I can summon only 2
(2x hollow finger + Aaron's Will)
obtuse quest
Can I easily check the max amount of skeletons I can summon?
Pen and paper.
Here's the possible count:
3 Base.
3 from skill spec.
2 from Necromancer passive nodes.
1 from Necromancer mastery bonus.
2 from 2 hollow fingers.
1 from +1 max skeleton rare chest affix.
1 from Profane champion affix.
real hill
Thank you, I will check
vivid valve
Is WL better clear than Abom
drifting temple
ofc wl has better clear. abom is just boss killer
solid totem
Lol just casually hit the double t7 slam for map farming chest
real hill
Pen and paper.
Here's the possible count:
3 Base.
3 from skill spec.
2 from Necr...
amazing, I found the missing skeleton, thank you very much!
visual girder
It sounds like the skill points on bone curse is going to be kinda tight. How ar...
Going for necrotic dmg and higher dmg since I’m focusing on necrotic dmg
visual girder
It sounds like the skill points on bone curse is going to be kinda tight. How ar...
Oh also aoe
slender geode
What is the point of that passive if they already do that lol
frigid spindle
I need some clairification on wands. I am torn between wrongwarp and Mad Alchemist ladle for a coal build. Idk the damage seems comparable just want to know what weapon to run with. Any ideas would be dope
finite galleon
What is the point of that passive if they already do that lol
Apparently wraiths are supposed to behave like zombos in this matter without this node
but they don;t
finite galleon
Going for necrotic dmg and higher dmg since I’m focusing on necrotic dmg
Damn, so you can bring yourself to ditch the 50% pet physical multiplier just like that?
If I were you I could never say no to it
FeelsBadMan
bronze rune
Any good 1k corruption summoner builds (pref abusing snapshotting) around?
pearl snow
You prefer snapshot abuse? Then Abom is probably your setup, tho I think the AoE clear is meh
finite galleon
Exactly what tevonsonte is saying. My item's still firmly in the trash tier and 1150-ish is no problemo
(Number 1 death cause in echo is me trying to sing along with whatever song that was playing at the time in the background and not paying attention to the screen)
Btw is that just me or does everyone experience this too
wintry flame
The Lich node that converts all leech to increased damage. Basically it will tak...
it used to convert minion leech to your damage too, cause it was bugged. it's old tech tbh
some old builds used to take it and the necro minion/your crit leech for 40% inc dmg per point 😛
wintry flame
Any good 1k corruption summoner builds (pref abusing snapshotting) around?
literally any minion build can likely do 1k+ corruption with snapshotting 😛
lament kernel
is blood armor with minion life reg% and flat points anything doing or more like waste of points? 😅
finite galleon
is blood armor with minion life reg% and flat points anything doing or more like...
Zeckar had a fancy set up keeping a dummy abomination balanced at low life using minion regen, although I doubt massive investing into those passive points is where you want to be
lament kernel
i had a relic with lots of minion life reg and didnt saw any change in the life bar 😅
finite galleon
Yeah, the leech node on the necro passive tree is just so much stronger
lament kernel
so im think about removing the points and put into the node with minion elemental damage and more elemental res for me and also this node with minion life and minion armor and minion damage reflect 😇
what leech node? 🤔
finite galleon
can't go wrong with res nodes if you need more res
lament kernel
river of bones? that just increases already existing leech?
gusty void
Yo acolyte chat. I was a huge ed/contagion enjoyer in Poe. I see spirit plague on the skill bar, does necrotic DoT scale well enough to clear out like 500c monos/ 10 harby fight? Do I have. To do a ton of combo casting with curses etc
finite galleon
what leech node? 🤔
It's uhh, top row, to the right, 5 points total, 3 of which is needed to unlock the intelligence node further to the right
finite galleon
It gives your pets' crits leech
lament kernel
char screen says minion crit chance 10% 😇
finite galleon
Its effect is very noticable. Also scales quadratically instead of linearly with points invested, which is something you need to keep in mind if you're trying to remove it point by point
oh, in that case nvm ig
finite galleon
Yo acolyte chat. I was a huge ed/contagion enjoyer in Poe. I see spirit plague o...
Maybe try pinging a guy called kzbulti, dude knows everything
lament kernel
so i should not put in 2 more points then? 😅
pearl snow
Yo acolyte chat. I was a huge ed/contagion enjoyer in Poe. I see spirit plague o...
Look into Witchfire Scaling
You could probably cook something up and focus Necrotic over Fire
hidden zephyr
Thoughts on stygian life drain
finite galleon
so i should not put in 2 more points then? 😅
Not before you have some serious crit numbers
gusty void
Yeah sick, I will check it out
lament kernel
Not before you have some serious crit numbers
what crit numbers are serious? 🤔
gusty void
I think there's nodes on spirit plague that inflict bleed and poison on enemies as well
finite galleon
what crit numbers are serious? 🤔
(tbh ideally close to 100% given how many ways there're to boost minion crit chance, although if you're doing a bunch of fire dots then maybe it's not worth it)
pearl snow
I think there's nodes on spirit plague that inflict bleed and poison on enemies ...
Yeah, but some Spirit Plague nodes are just X Poison Stacks rather than ramping ones so beware of that
lament kernel
(tbh ideally close to 100% given how many ways there're to boost minion crit cha...
yeah ok well i think i dont think about minion crit ^^
thank you for your help 🙂
finite galleon
HOP ON THE ABOMINATION HYPE TRAIN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TRINITY
lament kernel
but thats just 1 minion 🙀
finite galleon
Abom is relatively speaking the cutest pet among a sea of meh pets necro has access to
yeah that would be a valid counterpoint if there was one single other pet that's cute
lament kernel
i do like fire mages...they go pew pew with fire 😋
finite galleon
pearl snow
gusty void
Yeah, but some Spirit Plague nodes are just X Poison Stacks rather than ramping ...
Yeah I'm looking at the trees now, mad alchemist ladle + bone curse + swine amulet + spirit plague looks like there's potential there to use the warlock tree stack overloads and negative ailments
Defence might be issue idk maybe
pearl snow
Defense on Acolyte usually involves Ward Gen with Boneclamour Barbute or low life stuff with Exsanguious
pearl snow
Yeah I'm looking at the trees now, mad alchemist ladle + bone curse + swine amul...
Yep, can even run Fissure for more curses and stuff
gusty void
Yep, can even run Fissure for more curses and stuff
Yeah I played the maxroll ctonic fissure build it was good but felt very button busy, was ideally looking for a like 1-2 button job
gusty void
Imagined playstyle is basically
Run
Spirit plague mobs
Bone curse
They die, it spreads
Rares
Same but + something else? Chaos bolts to stack ailments? Cthonic fissure idk
Transplant to move around
visual girder
Damn, so you can bring yourself to ditch the 50% pet physical multiplier just li...
Didn’t even know it existed but we ball
I gotta run an abomination build once i reach the lvl for it
finite galleon
OMEGALUL
finite galleon
oh man.. totally boned
If this isn't for snapshotting then you've managed to low roll both stats you want
finite galleon
finite galleon
tbh this echo drops very frequently, and if you imprint it you'll see it a ton
gusty void
It's cheap AF too and a good way to get to echo edges, spam a dozen of them
acoustic ferry
go
uneven sandal
Is abom actually better then Bone golems, or do I have to supersnapshot him
old hull
Both
obtuse quest
Is abom actually better then Bone golems, or do I have to supersnapshot him
Abom is better even without snapshotting. Snapshotting makes abom the strongest minion.
obtuse quest
Imagined playstyle is basically
Run
Spirit plague mobs
Bone curse
They die, it...
Bone Curse does nothing by itself though. You have to hit the mob to trigger bone curse.
bronze rune
How would you put summoners (e.g. Abom) when it comes to map clear?
pearl snow
Imagined playstyle is basically
Run
Spirit plague mobs
Bone curse
They die, it...
Fissure is good because its a curse and "hits" to trigger bone curse
gusty void
Bone Curse does nothing by itself though. You have to hit the mob to trigger bon...
so bone curse them, then spirit plague?
hollow flint
Spirit plague doesnt hit, so it will never trigger bone curse
obtuse quest
so bone curse them, then spirit plague?
Spirit doesn’t hit since it’s a DoT.
gusty void
ok cheers
north lance
candid escarp
ponderment so if I'm doing a mix of mages with profane oblation and exploding zombies spawning vanguards for them to double explode on death, I'm pondering if I wanna see if I can/want to lean into Vomit or not. I'm getting in to opportunity costs here.
gusty void
Fissure is good because its a curse and "hits" to trigger bone curse
you the guy that wrote the guide for cbolts on letools? reckon this can do ubberroth with mint gear?
would a really good mad ladle be an upgrade for that wand
candid escarp
does rip blood's arcane absorbtion snapshot for anything meaningful minionwise?
craggy flicker
hows tormenting spirit fissure warlock doing rn?
wanted a fast clearing warlock as its one of the classes ive never played
candid escarp
it was the first toon I plowed into empowered monos with
craggy flicker
how far did u push it? did it go well?
candid escarp
I just finally got into empowered monos, so sadly I can't comment on that really
candid escarp
unrelatedly, if I convert Rip Blood to necrotic, does Hemophagy convert to 'heals from necrotic damage delt' or remain physical delt?
craggy flicker
Hemophagy is only from minion hits so you would not gain more leech from it
and i believe it would stay phys
candid escarp
I mean I know it's minion only
craggy flicker
the convert only mentions damage scaling
so i think it would be phys
the minion leech
candid escarp
I'm plotting out nonsense, it's all necrotic aside from possibly a bone golem so prolly don't wanna bother going down that route
candid escarp
I am jokingly calling the build the undead matryoska
see I dread shade a minion, it dies, leaving behind a volatile zombie, which explodes, leaving behind a skeleton, which a mage then detonates
good time is had by all
hushed turtle
can anyone explain the stygian coal, its stats are all +ward while channeling, +change to ignite/apply damned etc while channeling but the item itself turns drain life from a channelled spell to a non channeled spell doesn't it? So what's with that? Am I missing something?
candid escarp
I THINK what it does is replace the normal effect with 'rapid fire stygian beams' but it doesn't remove the channeled tag so you're still considered channeling
solid totem
can anyone explain the stygian coal, its stats are all +ward while channeling, +...
The ignite/damned from coal does not apply
If you spec into dark shackles
Because it turns into a cast
obtuse quest
can anyone explain the stygian coal, its stats are all +ward while channeling, +...
We ignore all the channeling affixes because we don't want to die. We only take it becuase it turn drain life into a rapid hit skill.
hushed turtle
ok ty, so i can ignore those stats when looking for the best one to buy
candid escarp
ah, I've never used it before so I was just guessing
solid totem
Yep, only int and necrotic dmg matters
candid escarp
wow, I might want that for the build I'm doing then XD
im looking at mainhand apogee
solid totem
I dont know if Im tripping but it feels like soul blast isnt working properly with stygian coal?
I have 4 points in the explosion area node and I dont see anything haha
It might be the original soul blast radius is so small 200% area isn't significant
finite galleon
unrelatedly, if I convert Rip Blood to necrotic, does Hemophagy convert to 'heal...
From my crude eye test it stays physical, cuz when my abom soul reaves with no other source of leech, its hp never seems to go up
candid escarp
oh, spirit plague is single target...that's annoying XD
finite galleon
im looking at mainhand apogee
Apogee is a nasty item, although do you have 2 spec slots left for chaos bolt + harvest?
candid escarp
no, do not, was just going for all the massive minion stats otherwise
in a 'best I can think of for now if nothing else'
I know I don't have any thing to proc the 'payoff'
finite galleon
😭 😭 😭
candid escarp
its possible I could swap rip blood for chaos bolt and use harvest as my 5th skill (which is in flux atm) but I'm not sure how that'd benefit the build relative
finite galleon
So i take it that your number one source of dmg is going to be profane oblation?
candid escarp
skeletal mages (considering death knights) with profane oblation to detonate skeleton vanguards left behind when volatile zombies explode and some form of dread shade in the mix
like some kind of insane undead exploding matryoska
rip blood is there for filler/possibly ward/mana regen when the exploding zombies get costly
finite galleon
👍 👍 (had go look up what that is, ahh, the slavic doll thingy)
candid escarp
I am not AGAINST switching rip to bolt and going with harvest for the 5th, but at the same time it's looking like 'bone golem main target for dread' is a strong 5th contender
finite galleon
wait, why bone golem?
candid escarp
actually I might also be overthinking this I don't need to specialize in harvest, it just needs to hit things
bone golem because it tends to group enemies up and also provides armor for the rest of the team
I didnt say this was the greatest, most well thought out plan
finite galleon
actually I might also be overthinking this I don't need to specialize in harvest...
Well yes, this is true, although harvest sounds like pretty much the nuts: Massive multiplier, massive crit chance to minions, and necrotic res shred
candid escarp
where does harvest buff the minion crit stuff?
finite galleon
It's uhh, to the right of the tree, somewhere to the top right of that one point node that increases the damage taken by the enemies iirc?
candid escarp
ah, there we are, legion of the lich
also reading that chaos bolt interaction with volatile zombies, I probably at least want to put a point in vomit
finite galleon
hmm i'm not much of a zombo player, i have no clue there
candid escarp
tldr they run to a target and explode
vomit makes them instead of exploding, puke their guts out and drain HP super fast, then explode
IE, they stand at the target for a second or so before auto detonating
finite galleon
XDD that much I knew, but tnx anyway. Btw are you going archmage?
candid escarp
I am not sure yet, it's been suggested it might or might not be good due to needing casts of oblation
finite galleon
Are you a big snapshotting guy?
candid escarp
I understand how it works but haven't done it in this game yet
finite galleon
Okay, so you can put a point into archmage, summon archmage, then spec out of archmage, and summon whatever remaining mages you'd like to summon, and finally despec skelly mage altogether if you're tight on slots, as long as you don't change zones
(If you're that kinda player, that is)
If not don't bother with it
candid escarp
that is, in fact, a bit much XD
finite galleon
(I've never tested how this works with changing zones, cuz I've never used skelly mage for anything other than sac fodders or a teleporting tool)
Okay okay I understand
candid escarp
the biggest issue with dropping rip blood is I'm gonna need to re-evaluate my mana replenishment plan
finite galleon
True, true
candid escarp
well, soul stealer to get to chaos bolts would probably help
wise basalt
Are red rings useful for wraithlord?
brittle zodiac
i notice most high end build only use 1 large minion.
i want to bring the zoo to high corruption =((((((((
obtuse quest
i want to bring the zoo to high corruption =((((((((
Screw around and find out!
chrome mason
double 1lp RR
its over
time to push 1500
@obtuse quest t7 crit multi > t7 spell crit chance on ladle/coal surely right
p sure you can cap crit with just double t5
solid totem
Depends on your other gear, but multi is better because there are less sources of it
If you are playing coal having the ability to use mana+regen/HP+mana idols will also factor into how much crit you need
obtuse quest
<@133488669435625473> t7 crit multi > t7 spell crit chance on ladle/coal surely ...
Most likely, but gear dependant imo
earnest lichen
Are you really just forced to play either wraithlord or abomination if you're wanting to play summons?
obtuse quest
Are you really just forced to play either wraithlord or abomination if you're wa...
Archmage also works. These all assume you want to play high corruption (Past 500).
There's more builds that work if you're playing for below that corruption count.
earnest lichen
Makes sense
Also refuse to do any of that snapshotting bs. I was gonna wait until they fixed that to play necro but I just want to play it
velvet kelp
any minion leveling builds to link up to necro?
earnest lichen
Archmage also works. These all assume you want to play high corruption (Past 500...
For archmage, do you go full pyro?
obtuse quest
For archmage, do you go full pyro?
Depends on setup, some even just run the basic one.
earnest lichen
Interesting
I'm just playing with my own build for now in emp monos. When I start getting rekt I'll start looking at a guide
worn drum
How Stygian Coal Lich ?
velvet kelp
but the build only takes off at lvl 52 when u can equip stygian coal right
solid totem
Thats when you can convert yes
Probably warlock is easiest to level with before that
worn drum
im at 61 atm and it feels good so far, im guessing its the passives that sscales it higher, becayse some echos i lose the lich form abit early
chrome mason
How Stygian Coal Lich ?
best acolyte build apart from abom (which has shit clear)
empty light
Fastest 300-500 corruption acolyte farmer build?
fiery orchid
Fastest 300-500 corruption acolyte farmer build?
Torment warlock
empty light
Torment warlock
Ty. Want to make an alt after I turn my ES into boss farmer. Asking basically same question in each of the other 4 class channels then will choose betweenn
candid escarp
so since Lone Watcher converts increased drain into increased damage taken...does it convert reduced drain into reduced damage taken?
obtuse quest
so since Lone Watcher converts increased drain into increased damage taken...doe...
Yup
finite galleon
Okay for the abom gang: Julra's ring doesn't work in conjunction with the age of undeath trick. I suspect it is because whenever you change zones, the game strips you of all your buffs. (Or maybe it's cuz it's taking too long to load in online mode and it checks your buff upon entering a new map? not sure)
The test was that with a pair of julra's rings equipped (with minion dmg and INT), assuming on the same set of sac fodders, directly channeling abom yields damage number A, jumping right before channeling yields B>A, changing zones yields A, and waiting till Julra's rings are off cooldown again before jumping and changing zones yields A.
wintry flame
you can't snapshot gear and zone change it refreshes
finite galleon
Smoge
What does work tho is equipping the crab ring and the vine boots, channel abom, swap into minion dmg ring and INT boots, before changing zones, which I didn't know
Abom now remembers both the types and the stats
wintry flame
but yeah you lock in the consumed minions because of the QoL updates they did to abom
the gear still refreshes on top of the original summon status
finite galleon
wait what kinda qol update was it
wintry flame
before it didn't remember minions consumed between zone changes, I believe. You also used to have to invest in channeling nodes
finite galleon
wintry flame
lmao the skill used to be so bad no one wanted to play it. Think the only solo abom build was from me like 2 months after it released
finite galleon
You're built different
wintry flame
it happens too often lmao... Infernal Shade, Abom, Skeletons, etc. No one really played Necro when I started it was considered bad. Then when they made taunt it was OP because you could perma taunt in arena and push forever 😛
finite galleon
The lore goes deep
wintry flame
it's toxic what they made me do for infernal shade
finite galleon
Why does it sound like there's an entirety of 20 chapters chronicling what has been between you and infernal shade
wintry flame
I spent so long testing that skill lmao
earnest lichen
If you're not planning on snapshotting, would you go wraithlord or abom?
wintry flame
I think there are more options than that but those are simplest yeah
pearl snow
you the guy that wrote the guide for cbolts on letools? reckon this can do ubber...
Yeah unless someone else wrote another. Strict CB dots would have a rough time at Uberroth honestly unless you went full bleed, but the defensive part might not even be on par so you’d have to play silly good.
I will most likely attempt bleed ubberroth once I get my dream gear
Curses might, I’m not sure if someones done it on Torment lock yet but I imagine thatd be smoother and closer to your setup
vivid monolith
If you're not planning on snapshotting, would you go wraithlord or abom?
Wraith
candid escarp
switched to the Arch Death Knight, with all the cast speed steroids stacked up only having one mage doesnt really seem to significantly reduce the rate at which he explodes vanguards
vivid monolith
But it hasn't done uber
If that's a concern
Not that I think abom does without snapshot
wintry flame
switched to the Arch Death Knight, with all the cast speed steroids stacked up o...
DK's will skill prio melee attack in melee range, DKs outside of melee range cast Profane faster than mages, as they don't rotate their skill prio
fallow python
Any videos y'all can recommend that explain endgame mechanics, imprinting and the like?
chrome mason
I love just farming red rings off the weaver tree imprints
exotic temple
am I cooked I just leveled a SC drain life lich 😭
solid totem
Why are you cooked
exotic temple
seeing mixed things about drain life spam working/not working
exotic temple
bro ur actualy machinegunning is it the int scaling or what
solid totem
Int + mana
solid totem
stuck owlBOT
solid totem
My planner for ref
exotic temple
do I spam or no all I need to know tbh
solid totem
But my gear is cracked out the wazoo
solid totem
do I spam or no all I need to know tbh
For max dps you spam, but you need to be able to sustain mana close to max
You sort of juggle between holding drain and just rip blooding early on
Its a learning curve but you'll understand once you pay close attention to your mana
exotic temple
I see
yea I guess I just play according to the tooltip of the offhand huh
p much
barren lintel
i would just drop transplant completely in that planner and put 3 points into the reap cdr instead and spec wandering spirits for more damage (from more mana recovery + necro res shred)
exotic temple
1 mob dropped thx imprint
dense palm
Lmao
solid totem
i would just drop transplant completely in that planner and put 3 points into th...
Could test it out, but I do like transplant a lot for the mobility
And frenzy upkeep
barren lintel
you get frenzy already and also haste from ammy and relic, thats why i would drop it mostly
reap with the 3 cdr points is like < 2s cd its so nice
solid totem
Yes, its just comfy for having a dodge available for emergencies
But yeah could consider it, bit tight on points in the reaper tree though
barren lintel
yea i would drop executioner for it
as wandering spirits woul deasily make up for that damage
solid totem
Guess if Im trying to push as much damage as possible I lose soul shroud
And dodge everything
barren lintel
unless you have necrotic shred elsewhere but dont see it
barren lintel
should be pretty significant damage increase so yea if you dont want to mess with wandering blessing is also good
as i think your combined pen atm is only like 42 ish
extra 50 on top from shred is pretty gud :d
solid totem
I guess the obvious solution is to get a LP2 red ring and slam T7 int and endurance
🫠
frail pebble
so I'm working on a skeleton mage profane oblation "detonate all nonessential minions" build approximately based on a guide on le tools, question about the ring slots though, one cycle of putrescence is probably 100% incredible, just ensuring that there's an endless tide of culling volatile zombies is solid, but it's really hard to tell how much they contribute to overall dps. Is it more worth it to double up on Cycles of Putrescence or would another unique like Phantom Grip for skill levels do more?
solid totem
should be pretty significant damage increase so yea if you dont want to mess wit...
Just tested it out, wasn't as large a DPS boost as expected, I guess uber abby doesnt have enough HP for it to ramp and make a big enough difference
frail pebble
this's what I'm working with at the moment, on the assumption that mages are doing most of the heavy lifting and 2 skill levels+additional base crit outweighs double the zombies
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj7Xr3Q
stuck owlBOT
amber fossil
My girlfriend is feeling kinda weak on her torment warlock, offensive wise (and also a little bit on the defense). Would you mind sharing some tipps on her build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Viktona/character/Samisthra Anything that comes to mind directly where we could improve her character?
hidden zephyr
Is stygian coal litch good?
pearl snow
My girlfriend is feeling kinda weak on her torment warlock, offensive wise (and ...
Take points out of Mania of Morality on Acolyte and grab more Intelligence.
Get more Crit Multi and get Spirit Frequency on the chest piece
amber fossil
You mean intelligence through the passive tree or in general with items?
ah crippling insight, i see
We are a bit confused about the spirit frequency. We dont have any shards, and didnt get a single chest dropped with that affix (We have a filter for it, so we should see it). Is there something we dont know?
chrome mason
turtle time
2lp uhkeiros and gloves
rest all shit
gloves have 2% crit chance tho so unusable 😭
wise basalt
Is there a unique belt useful for wraithlord
ruby night
We are a bit confused about the spirit frequency. We dont have any shards, and d...
They do drop, I got massive stacks of chests with those so just keep on searching.
I play the build since season start and it took some time for it to drop first.
ruby night
My girlfriend is feeling kinda weak on her torment warlock, offensive wise (and ...
For a huge load of damage put crit multi on the wand, it's mandatory for full potential
atomic atlas
gloves have 2% crit chance tho so unusable 😭
cant u reroll them with bricked gloves from nemesis
ruby night
My girlfriend is feeling kinda weak on her torment warlock, offensive wise (and ...
For defense stack some more necrotic resistance and push the armor >2.500.
Belt, Heart of Uhkkeiros, Helmet and Boots got the wrong modifiers so this could be a reason to feel a bit weak.
Just as an idea where to start, farm those items and reroll them with the recommended modifiers and she should be fine.
ruby night
My girlfriend is feeling kinda weak on her torment warlock, offensive wise (and ...
...and finally she has to boost her void resistance, it's necessary to get it >75%. No way out.
pearl snow
We are a bit confused about the spirit frequency. We dont have any shards, and d...
Its a rarer affix but it should show up
amber fossil
Is it worth to take the void res blessing instead of crit multi? probably not right?
And thanks btw for all your tipps :)
amber fossil
Little offtopic question but on the planner if an item has an yellow affix on the last spot, is that sealed with the sealed glyph?
pearl snow
Is it worth to take the void res blessing instead of crit multi? probably not ri...
Not necessary itll lower output for defense
pearl snow
Little offtopic question but on the planner if an item has an yellow affix on th...
Yes
Sealed is largely optional, it can be used to replace prefixes easily without using removal rune too
ruby night
In my opinion you can change the idols that push the duration of the veil (if you use the build as recommended so far) to catch up res and damage.
A shortcut to boost the damage is to put nec penetration with idols, it's insane.
Just an idea, so you got more space for defense and damage as long as you need it instead of duration of the veil.
amber fossil
just saw on the guide that they had void res on ring that way, so I was just asking
amber fossil
In my opinion you can change the idols that push the duration of the veil (if yo...
through the tomb thing where you can enchant idols?
ruby night
In every tomb there is a little forge an the end, small (if the tomb just spawns on map) or big if you start a tomb map
So you got one or two shots, depends on the size of the tomb/map
And she should get the recommended blessings, all of them are good and necessary.
There are some missing as far as I see/remember
If she just follows the path of the build, she should be easily able to clear 300+ maps.
Good luck for both of you, I'm out for today.
wheat dust
bleed from minions scales from minion damage?
old hull
bleed from minions scales from minion damage?
Yes
lament kernel
is there a overview for what dread shade does or do you have to read all the nodes and find out yourself? im curious becuase of the node that makes the aura work on you too ^^
short girder
chrome mason
cant u reroll them with bricked gloves from nemesis
completely forgot it works like that
hidden zephyr
When can i choose a mastery?
lament kernel
ok guys...so... seems like... this dread shade not to make minion always crit just counts for 1 minion only and no other minions...so no aura....and well...seems like with aura damage of a army is much higher 😇
chrome mason
When can i choose a mastery?
around level 15-20
lament kernel
When can i choose a mastery?
im not sure if you have to put in 20 points in passive tree and or a point in the story lets you choose it ^^
also my armor kinda doubles when i stand in aura myself 😅
chrome mason
You have to put 20 points in ur passive tree to access the other trees, but thats only after you unlock it through the mainquest
Debating on making an abom necro to boss
hidden zephyr
You have to put 20 points in ur passive tree to access the other trees, but that...
Weird i went to some rifts and have a quest that says to choose a mastery but it wont let me
chrome mason
You get your mastery when your quest takes you to the End of Time
If you tp'd out you can tp back to it from there
On the left theres a spiral staircase of floating rocks and at the top of it will be the NPC to pick your mastery
hidden zephyr
You get your mastery when your quest takes you to the End of Time
Yea in there right now
What mastery should i pick for lvling if i want to transition to lich stygian coal later on?
chrome mason
Warlock is best for leveling
You can reset your mastery so i would reccommend Warlock until about level 60-70
barren lintel
it cannot be understated how bad is lich for leveling, wouldnt do it again :d
hidden zephyr
You can reset your mastery so i would reccommend Warlock until about level 60-70
Alright thanks, is there a lvling guide sonewhere?
chrome mason
Alright thanks, is there a lvling guide sonewhere?
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/warlock-leveling-guide Cant go wrong with Maxrolls leveling guide
crit plsssss
sadge
next slam crit multi pls
yippieee
pearl snow
yipee
stable stream
I am working on a witchfire warlock build. What item should I place in my Weaver tree slots?
pearl snow
Damned on Hit Chest / Head piece
stable stream
Thanks!
velvet kelp
any non snapshotting minion builds to recommend?
pearl snow
If you dont plan on doing Uber just dont snapshot and play Dreadlord,
or any minion build
velvet kelp
got link for that?
swift wren
Is there a way to know which one is better to combine? Pob-esqu?
chrome mason
Look for a t7 spell crit/crit multi
Dont want double crit chance, and i wouldnt waste a t6 on a 3lp
swift wren
Dang. Ik it's rare but been wand farming forever and can't find one
Both nemesis farming and lost trove for similar yet better wands
pearl snow
got link for that?
no I dont play necro but google / maxroll should
stark copper
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9VlwwkB
would a build like this work? this is my first build
stuck owlBOT
pearl snow
Yeah, look up the Bone Curse neck too its great. Witchfire scales very well
Immolator's only scales hit dmg so you can take that off if you want for Resistances etc
You may find things clunky with Hungering, Fissure, Spirits and Shade. But dropping shade for bone curse would be nice
Also wandering spirits wont scale well with your gear due to it not really being fire unless you get Flames of Midnight ring
4 Points in Vile Tide could be better elsewhere for defense such as Imperishable or maxing out Unnatural Preservation
velvet kelp
is pebbles set good for minion buidls?
which minion build is best without snapshotting? roid mages, wraith or golems?
candid escarp
dread shade Q, how does lone watcher interact with doom brand?
pearl snow
which minion build is best without snapshotting? roid mages, wraith or golems?
I assume Wraith or golems
candid escarp
...the answer is 'doom brand still reduces the allied minions' health and does so at the normal dread shade rate, meaning it will eventually start one shotting your minions the moment theyre summoned, leaving the main subject untouched'
barren lintel
stygian coal overrides the poison branch still?
if by overrides you mean the poison conversion doesnt work with it, thats right
barren lintel
i was trying it and transitioned away from it, the clear was too annoying, and i always prefer to play dot builds
but autotargetting abilities and dots just suck together
and not being able to even use soul blast was final annoyance for me
drifting idol
huh
barren lintel
well soul blast needs for stygian coal to actually do the killing blow
which with poison it just wont do most of the time
vivid monolith
got link for that?
Google keepers wraithlord build if you want a single minion no snapshot
He hasn't done uber iirc but hit 5k corruption
dense palm
Hey folks, in your opinion, when is it ok to switch into the Abomination build? Do you guys have like minimun requirements in mind? Or is it all good as soon as you're level 70?
woeful needle
PH player with discord please
vivid monolith
Is Scales of Lemniscate used at all? Misunderstood it and though "ooh wraithlord weapon" and then realized it isn't one of each type of shade, but one total... thoughts?
vivid monolith
I just can't think of when minion build wants only one shade
pearl snow
being lazy, less buttons to click
vivid monolith
unless the bit of frailty+slow is useful somehow
pearl snow
really the only reason
vivid monolith
I guess
obtuse quest
I recall one cooked man playing wraithlord using it with just dread, but idk what that man was thinking
vivid monolith
lmfao
candid escarp
woo, this build is starting to violently explode bosses
vivid monolith
woo, this build is starting to violently explode bosses
what build?
candid escarp
single dread specter on death knight archmage with exploding zombies leaving vanguards to oblate, with chaos bolt to super-explode the zombies
5th will be harvest in another level to eventually proc apogee and shred necro resist
it's still a WIP but it's well well above my usual murder threshold
candid escarp
just story, relative to previous story leveling. will prolly hit monos once I get harvest specialized
its main issue right now is my mana regeneration, which isnt lethargic but I do miss rip blood's spam for mana aspect. I can't deny the chaos bolt/harvest combo does ABSURD damage though
this is the build as it stands right now, though I'm about to go to bed. I will read comments if you @ me XD
vivid monolith
I'm not the best theorycrafter; was merely curious!
candid escarp
I'm decidedly aiming for an Apogee and Boneclamour when I can equip em.
dark snow
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPNdlP3Q
what do i need to change to be able to live in the uber ab fight
stuck owlBOT
lime junco
how to do LV30 assemble abomination ?
relic +4 ?have another item
and why them use ? this helm on snapshotting not use right helm for speed and dmg minion
solid totem
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPNdlP3Q
what do i need to change to be ...
What are you dying to specifically? Get HP above 3k first, also unspec from Vile Shroud in reaper form and it put into Soul Shroud, you are already capped on Necrotic and Poison res without it
Also you don't need 3 points in Haunting for marked on death, leave it at 1 point and put the rest into Deathtouch Scythe and Executioner, you're a bit low on crit multi
Not sure if you need Unholy Dominion, if you don't put it into more damage
For Drain Life unspec out of Soul Blast and put it into Thoughtsteal, Soul Blast is useless for Uberroth
Actually put it into Blood Pact its a bigger mana reduction
lament kernel
is armor shred 150% any useful if i have fire archers and fire mages and fire golems? i mean fire archers do some physical damage still i think
solid totem
Armor applies to all forms of damage, so armor shred is more damage for all damage types
So yes it is useful
lament kernel
cool thank you ^^
young sand
what's a good build to follow? i am new to this game and lvl 75 but i heard about snap shotting and that is depressing that my class can only be optimized through snapshotting : ' (
am using a ton of minions with armour shred build but looks likw i have to rework everything ..
chrome mason
Snapshotting is an optimization but you dont need to do it especially if you dont plan to push past 500 corruption
obtuse quest
is there a non-snap shotting build here?
Both meta builds (abom, wraithlord) can be played without snapshotting. Your corruption ceiling is just much lower. Still enough to clear 500c though.
No, there is currently no meta army minion builds. The best you got is flame wraiths and those play more like totems.
young sand
i see i heard there will be an update (?) on acoltye but we know when is that true
obtuse quest
i see i heard there will be an update (?) on acoltye but we know when is that t...
Next season, but it’s more focused on Lich than all of acolyte.
obtuse quest
No info if so. They do want to fix snapshotting though, but they can’t yet.
young sand
when they mean "fix" I do hope it means make it stronger
obtuse quest
when they mean "fix" I do hope it means make it stronger
We aren’t sure.
lime junco
how to do LV30 assemble abomination ?
relic +4 ?have another item
have anyone know ?
young sand
not sure how to fix it as a player since snapshotting makes it so strong but if u fix it ... it becomes weaker as a middle ground
.<
solid totem
If you cant beat em, join em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKIsQ1tIfeQ&t=195s abomination snapshotted damage is just nuts
hidden zephyr
i need a gear guide or smth im on chapter 4 rn but havent gotten any new gear in a while, idk whats good
cold tapir
guys can you explain to me what the cursed limbs node on bone curse does? Does it just recast bone curse? what is the benefit?
dark snow
What are you dying to specifically? Get HP above 3k first, also unspec from Vile...
Okay ill try all of thise out do you think i should use the ab helmet with max life?
solid totem
ab helmet?
I think you could easily get a lot more hp by farming weaver idols
Your idols are a bit weak atm
dark snow
Your idols are a bit weak atm
oohhh wouldnt i lose alot of resisntace
ohh plus i need alot of multipler as well
obtuse quest
guys can you explain to me what the cursed limbs node on bone curse does? Does i...
Recasts bone curse when you land a hit, up to once every second. Makes it so you don't have to press the bone curse button or extend it's duration like if you're using the 2 falloff nodes(Eg Illusion of Pain).
solid totem
oohhh wouldnt i lose alot of resisntace
There are weaver idols with % hp prefix and elemental resist suffix
dark snow
There are weaver idols with % hp prefix and elemental resist suffix
also any way i can target farm em
is there also a better loot filter i could use
solid totem
I dont think theres a way to target farm idols, all rng im afraid
Ill link my planner a bit later
But it wouldnt really be helpful copying it since my gear is a result of solving specific holes along the way
And also a bit difficult to obtain quickly haha
stuck owlBOT
lime junco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKIsQ1tIfeQ&t=195s abomination snapshotted damag...
i like this play style
1.how do you do about snapshotting ? abomination die so fast if not atk something how to fix it ?
2. why use glove Falcon Fist what good at it?
3. how do you consume Wraith Reap the damned skill if you have age of undead?
4. Necrotic is best than Physical? because you use Reap the damned or other option?
dark snow
And also a bit difficult to obtain quickly haha
yeah but fun to do
@solid totemwould less armour be a big problem
look at my amulet
wtf you only have multipler
480
did you prophecy farm idols?
solid totem
i like this play style
1.how do you do about snapshotting ? abomination die so...
Unfortunately I know nothing about minions haha
solid totem
yeah but fun to do
I dont have 2LP yet lol
LE planner doesnt show me the rolls
Can you link your character profile?
vivid kernel
help me understand profane veil, is it more of a panic button, or can you get it to the point where its your main damage dealer
the 10 sec cooldown feels awful, i understand its cause you dodge every hit, im surprised there's no tradeoff passive
obtuse quest
help me understand profane veil, is it more of a panic button, or can you get it...
Defensive button/burst button.
If you're curse focused, you can cut it's cooldown.
In a torment setup, it's used for this as well:
vivid kernel
If you're curse focused, you can cut it's cooldown.
ah the thing is dont warlocks usually have it such that they curse once and then everything is autopilot
like my loop now is: spirit plague (self cast),
which casts anguish -> bone curse -> decrepify (swine amulet) -> mark for death
and then it all refreshes because of chaos bolt automatically
i have torment on myself otherwise that one is automatic once you lay down the fissure too
obtuse quest
ah the thing is dont warlocks usually have it such that they curse once and then...
Oh yeah, the refresh isn't that good on auto setups.
It's mostly for the spammers like those that want to spam spirit plague for the DoT buff.
dark snow
yeah
bronze rune
uhmm.. how do I assemble an abomination? when I hold the skill button it does not consume skeletons
obtuse quest
uhmm.. how do I assemble an abomination? when I hold the skill button it does no...
You're supposed to hold down the skill button then hover over the minions you want it to consume. If you can't, there's probably some bug, check your skill nodes and do a relog.
bronze rune
You're supposed to hold down the skill button then hover over the minions you wa...
Nvm, had a bone beast or whatever instead abo.. xD
lament kernel
guys... i have a 3 lp usurper mandate...problem it can have 2 suffix only...and all the minion stuff is suffix 😭 so what prefix should i use? like they are almost all for me...i only see parry chance and mana :/
drifting idol
Just got to level 70, still dunno what build i should do lol
Just chilling with my AoD poison stuff rn
chrome mason
join the coal cult
old hull
guys... i have a 3 lp usurper mandate...problem it can have 2 suffix only...and ...
Yeah, parry chance or a hybrid mana affix are what you got, mainly the 3 LP gives you a better chance to hit both suffixes
lament kernel
thank you
prime gull
I'm a new player who just got to empowered monoliths and Im struggling a lot. Damage is pretty good but I just feel super squishy. Feel like I've hit a brick wall after having a pretty easy time through normal monoliths.
Looking to up my defenses a lot, I know I need more health and resistances but not sure if theres something else or what I should focus on first https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9V9DWPB
stuck owlBOT
worn drum
when does stygian coal lich get good? i have all the gear, red rings nihilis, ladle, boots etc but still feels meh
obtuse quest
when does stygian coal lich get good? i have all the gear, red rings nihilis, la...
Did you stack int and mana, did you keep your mana high while casting drain life?
worn drum
whats the int im aiming for, im at 132 atm still lvl 81 too tho
obtuse quest
I'm a new player who just got to empowered monoliths and Im struggling a lot. Da...
What is your damage focus? I see physical, bleed and necrotic dot
obtuse quest
whats the int im aiming for, im at 132 atm still lvl 81 too tho
As high as possible iirc, 150+
prime gull
What is your damage focus? I see physical, bleed and necrotic dot
Main skill is marrow shards so primarly phys / bleed
worn drum
As high as possible iirc, 150+
alos do i cast drain life as much as possible?
obtuse quest
alos do i cast drain life as much as possible?
While also keeping your mana up, so most likely 2-3 instances at once.
worn drum
2 presses, wait 2 sec, 2 presses etc?
obtuse quest
Main skill is marrow shards so primarly phys / bleed
Then why is drain life here? If you need the health you can build leech.
obtuse quest
2 presses, wait 2 sec, 2 presses etc?
More or less
As long as you make sure your mana is topped up
prime gull
Then why is drain life here? If you need the health you can build leech.
yeah I really dont need it any more tbh, it's mainly just left there from when I was leveling and struggling to have enough damage to sustain the marrow shards health drain via leech. I am not sure what I'd swap it with though
obtuse quest
yeah I really dont need it any more tbh, it's mainly just left there from when I...
Probably a debuff skill like bone curse
prime gull
ah yeah good point. I had been using transplant to cast bone curse with the doom bringer node but I probably need to fully spec into bone curse to make good use of it
solid totem
If you are really min maxing stygian coal, you need to be very accurate with your rip bloods. You can basically sustain close to full mana full spamming if you maintain high cast speed from frenzy/gear and 100% rip blood uptime on the mob
I just realised WASD has a massive advantage for rip blood uptime haha
Also do not sleep on mana regen
And use your potions for mana!
drifting temple
things are getting abit hoardy
you just started haha
candid escarp
hmm. one point in Dying Light on dread specter doesnt outpace my archmage's natural regen/etc, but I'm also not sure how much actual damage value it's adding.
green barn
When is a decent level/time to transition from levelling build to stygian coal lich?
lament kernel
i think when you have your level and your item so your final build is kinda working?
green barn
I know it requires... well, stygian coal, but that's lvl 36. Was mostly wondering if there's any otehr breakpoint in terms of specialization levels that are required before it becomes nice. Otherwise I might move build now when I'm at around 40
lament kernel
oh...then i think level 70 to 80 maybe?
because you want to monolith and farm a bit there maybe and have lots of passive points and get your skills to level 20
candid escarp
only 2 levels until this stupid nonsense is fully online
obtuse quest
I know it requires... well, stygian coal, but that's lvl 36. Was mostly wonderin...
You’re mostly gear tied. Without enough int and mana the build will feel bad.
green barn
You’re mostly gear tied. Without enough int and mana the build will feel bad.
Thanks, I'll keep going with the leveling build for now then for a while longer
chrome mason
I just realised WASD has a massive advantage for rip blood uptime haha
holy shit.
that is a life changer.
solid totem
Right? Hahaha
chrome mason
Felt like i was gonna give myself carpal tunnel with all the kiting i was doing on uberroth
gotta give that a try
solid totem
WASD is just goated
arctic turtle
controller >> WASD
idk why but this game just feels so good with controller
can hold down trigger for main damage spammer and still use the control stick to move around
candid escarp
well I actually have my build mostly 'final' now, still a ton of passive points to earn and the gear needs work, but skill wise at least things are where they feel good. My main issue aside from shoring up resistances is my killing potential is severely limited by my mana regeneration model, which is currently super arbitrary and mostly falls back on 'just regen it' which means the lovely screaming explosions have to stop ;-;
lament parcel
hi. can ask why my drain life stygian beam only hit 1 monster at a time?
obtuse quest
hi. can ask why my drain life stygian beam only hit 1 monster at a time?
Beams fire as fast as your INT is, and you truly only fire one beam at a time. If your frequency is high enough it will look like it's hitting multiple people.
You also can just cast more than one instance, making it target more.
arctic turtle
I think I did something wrong when I tried stygian beam, i switched to it as soon as I get the catalyst and suddenly did 0 damage and died
obtuse quest
I think I did something wrong when I tried stygian beam, i switched to it as soo...
Because you need actual gear other than the unique for it to work properly.
arctic turtle
i figured as much, but i wasn't about all that so I stopped following guides and now i'm having more fun
exotic temple
I got dc'd and wont let me log back in, restarted steam, now my characters are gone 😭
swift wren
why does stygian coal build use orians belt vs something like immolators? just for the 10-25 int roll?
barren lintel
int scales like 4 different stats there so yea its pretty good
and you have frenzy anyway so immolator is just flat if you dont pot
swift wren
I guess that's why long frenzy roll on nihilis is important
solid totem
20+ int is a lot, especially when you cant get int on belts otherwise
swift wren
Yeah makes sense, I forgot about frenzy on ammy tbh
Mine also has a roll of 10 so might be time to target farm it lolol
solid totem
Yep even more so when you have shattered worlds
swift wren
Just got my rr. Gotta get some better purples to enchant my lp2s but probably time to test uber abby soon
solid totem
Go for it, it has infinite tries so its good to measure your current gear against it so you know where to improve
swift wren
I assume I can't cause normal abby takes me ages. Justcan't get a good wand upgrade for my 3lp mad alchemist
barren lintel
i like brewmaster on that build the most as a belt personally, i think ppl underrate the pot sustain and the endu threshold caps you at LL without having to use bad chest
swift wren
using bad chest?
swift wren
Oh, I use null portent for the dr above 75%
solid totem
who needs defence when pewpew die
barren lintel
could be asking the same question about nulls :d
its just super efficient defensive slot
solid totem
you can actually get a lot of endurance threshold with idols
mana + mana regen/endurance + endurance threshold idols
thats very efficient
barren lintel
if you are wearing nulls then reses there are more efficient
solid totem
you should have enough res from 1 12% idol + max roll nihilis and red rings
swift wren
Well, up until 105, right? Maybe 130 if you factor in 25 reduction?
solid totem
and some 1 slot phys or void
you need 115 for max
oh and when you do get 4lp stygian you have enough from t5 all res
and t5 void
swift wren
Isn't it 75+25 (to account for lowering) + 40 for max null?
solid totem
sorry was talking about base not with lowering
not sure how much you need to account for that, ive done 1.5k corruption without issue not having invested too much in defence
above rr and null
well and shattered
swift wren
When you switch to shattering, do you worry about casting death seal with high ward or just focus on perma pen? Cause high ward from twisted heart feels great
barren lintel
you are usually a lot tankier in death seal, i wouldnt care about ward at all
it just looks cool
is useless
swift wren
Ward is worthless except it gives necrotic pen when you cast death seal
chrome mason
First crit and its on a piece of twink gear gg
solid totem
just slam t7 endurance somewhere and you can get the blessing LUL
solid totem
First crit and its on a piece of twink gear gg
RIP
And I wouldnt rely on death seal death wave for necrotic pen
It assumes you are melee range all the time
swift wren
just slam t7 endurance somewhere and you can get the blessing LUL
Wait there's a blessing that does the same thing?
solid totem
Spirit of fire timeline
swift wren
Why does it assume you're in melee range?
swift wren
Ooh, not based on ward. Makes sense. Just stacking it perma
solid totem
The uptime is a bit sus on death seal for the necrotic shred
swift wren
Omg it only applies to death wave hit? Iassumed it was for everything
solid totem
Yes lol
barren lintel
sus is an understatement :d
solid totem
im just waiting for a LP2 red ring with t7 int and endurance slam to use the blessing
Simple task 🫠
swift wren
Omg it really is just death wave. That's such apointless point I've been using lol
solid totem
and 15% per 100 ward is... not great anyway haha
considering the frequency of the wave
swift wren
No that makes sense. I thought it was for all necro damage
Reading op
So much easier to cast death seal now too lol
No worries about stackin ward first
solid totem
and if you havent read this chat previously mentioned by deathbeam, bloodpact reduces mana cost of drain life by about 10
which is pretty insane
must take imo
swift wren
Does that basically remove the need for mana?
swift wren
So the guides recommend last point into necrosis for death seal. What do you use instead? Life tap?
swift wren
Fair. No +4 drain on body?
stuck owlBOT
swift wren
Omg all those decayed skulls I've been dumping
barren lintel
i like this but the death wave aoe also sounds nice
solid totem
I only switched when I bought an LP4
swift wren
That route looked fun deathbeam. Do you think the life tap saves you?
solid totem
Ah I like more control over when I death seal or not so I didnt take that line
wise basalt
Is there a way to do more damage against shields with wraithlord?
obtuse quest
Is there a way to do more damage against shields with wraithlord?
Do more damage in general. We don't have anti-ward stuff here.
wise basalt
swift wren
Lol I'm so dumb... Just farmed out to place threshold of eternity
Only at 450 corruption
vivid kernel
so... im feeling kinda squishy in base 100c empowered monos, i have 1.3k hp, 2.8k resting ward, and cap resists
just did the harbinger woven echo and spent most of my time running around kiting, is this normal?
right that probably means nothing unless i link my current build
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNPR97yQ
stuck owlBOT
obtuse quest
so... im feeling kinda squishy in base 100c empowered monos, i have 1.3k hp, 2.8...
That's not that much ehp to be fair, do you have other DR layers?
vivid kernel
a bunch of curse related stuff i guess, like less damage taken per curse on target from the warlock passive, frailty from spirit plague
rip blood is also specced to return ward
i think my current weakness is, i need to position the fissure with the enemy in it, and also keep attacking to stack bleed/curses because most of my offense and defense relies on that
so if i run into a situation where i cant stand and tank then im in trouble and things fall apart
maybe higher ehp and cast speed is the answer...
pearl snow
The dmg reduction from curses is not nearly enough
Your best bet would be pickup a shield and more ward / actual hp. I know Fall of the Outcasts has a great bleed shield to add another layer.
vivid kernel
oh right, Kzb linked this before https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgrATCxA
this is the one isn't it?
swift wren
Omg my uber abby damage it pitiful
pearl snow
Blood Aura for Bone
vivid kernel
damn, i never even considered armor, yea i have 0 dodge and armor pretty much, thats not good.
no block either
pearl snow
Also its not a great help since you gotta get it and its a harbinger item.
Wall of Nothing is good for Ward
vivid kernel
what are layers lmao
pearl snow
Lol
vivid kernel
usually how much do you want to overcap res in this game, just being at 75% means you get eaten alive by res shreds right?
swift wren
If you want to account for reductions, you need 100. If you want to account for null, 115. Both is 140
They cap pen at 75, so if you have 75 res, they pen all of it. That's just how this game works
swift wren
Null portent on drain life: inc life % > phys res > leech rate? Unless you have maxed phys res elsewhere, then leech rate > phys res. Or just roll em all cause stats don't matter much
crystal kestrel
Hello Acolyte people, how's the lich ? 🙂
finite galleon
usually how much do you want to overcap res in this game, just being at 75% mean...
Poison res is the one that'll get reduced the most, due to uhh, poison. Maybe have a look at your debuff bar when you're fighting, and get an idea how many stacks you'd have at the same time at most. I myself tend to play very far back while A-keying a pet forward, so it's been a long while since I've had more than 2 stacks on me at the same time. (it's 5% res per stack)
Technically it can always happen that a couple of those self exploding maggot-ish thingies get possessed by a weaver spirit, teleports on top of you, explode, triggering a mark for death echo mod while putting 6 stacks of phys res reduction on you, followed by a big physical hit from somewhere offscreen
but that seems pretty pointless to play around if you're on SC
fervent basalt
damn man, can someone suggest me a good build for early?
just unlocked early monos but im getting clapped cause i tried another build after doing that
empowered monos*
was using this until that point
finite galleon
damn man, can someone suggest me a good build for early?
The answer is always abomination REEEEEE
fervent basalt
The answer is always abomination REEEEEE
i tried it, good single target but seriously bad clear
this link worked probably cause mages shred armor, bone golem did aoe and abom single target
is there a way
zinc flower
Could try Wraithlord
fervent basalt
😭 Is finisher about to be converted into a wraithlord player too
im just trying to find a build to cruise 300-500 corruption man
im getting clapped after respeccing that made me pssed
finite galleon
are you in cycle or legacy
fervent basalt
are you in cycle or legacy
cycle
zinc flower
Infernal shade sacrifice looks cool too, if a bit more niche. Idk how it plays
finite galleon
Rip finisher. Otherwise we could do a bunch of unique helmet prophecies together.
fervent basalt
Rip finisher. Otherwise we could do a bunch of unique helmet prophecies together...
its okay man ty
fervent basalt
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/necromancer-leveling-guide
i think ill reroll to this, zoomancer and kinda balanced
for early prog
i mean im still 69 level
might be early for empowr monos
but idk what to farm too
finite galleon
FARMING FOR A JUICY USURPER'S MANDATE TO TRANSITION INTO ABOMINATION NATURALLY
As for fixed drops
Lich's Set, the flat minion damage + minion leech + minion can't be crit ring from fall of the outcast, the 25 INT belt from Seeker of the Summit, are all pretty deece imo
(deece for an eventual transition into abomination, that is)
fervent basalt
FARMING FOR A JUICY USURPER'S MANDATE TO TRANSITION INTO ABOMINATION NATURALLY
dude
i saw this axe
lp2 like
zibilllion of times
but didnt picked it cause i would never play minioon
💀 💀 💀 💀
in my main i mean
fervent basalt
FARMING FOR A JUICY USURPER'S MANDATE TO TRANSITION INTO ABOMINATION NATURALLY
i dont wanna snapshot btw
is there some proper guide without snapshot
finite galleon
but didnt picked it cause i would never play minioon
??????????????????????????????????
finite galleon
i dont wanna snapshot btw
????????????????????????????????????????????
/block Finisher
fervent basalt
????????????????????????????????????????????
what ? bro
its cringe gameplay
ngl
finite galleon
It's based gameplay
finite galleon
you wouldn't get it.
finite galleon
True, that's peak gameplay right there
fervent basalt
XD
finite galleon
instead of actually doing stuff, you get to mald while screwing up a despec as you try to summon abom, and do it all over again
that's how this game was intended to be played
with grace and rhythm
tawdry rock
What are you guys thinking for a pure poison warlock?
I don't know about the skeletons, I have been trying out a bunch of different things in that slot
candid escarp
well I put a point in Dreadful Horde and that solved my mana problems
probably more damage efficient too seeing as vanguards have a cap of 3 anyway
fervent basalt
Lich's Set, the flat minion damage + minion leech + minion can't be crit ring fr...
I have this ring as lp3
finite galleon
I have this ring as lp3
3LP do be kinda nice if you aren't snapshotting, although it's going to be a while until you have an exalted ring satisfying the condition that any combination of 2 of its 3 unfixed affixes is something you're happy with
Or you can just yolo
btw how good is its flat dmg roll
fervent basalt
btw how good is its flat dmg roll
i need to check
what skill / build you can think of with minimal gear requirement
finite galleon
You already know the word I'm about to utter
the real question is
Is your body ready to accept it?
drifting idol
i feel like i am turning to a meta hoe rn
for some reason i am finding ES void knight hella appealing to me 💀
candid escarp
@finite galleonno no that would make sense
finite galleon
for some reason i am finding ES void knight hella appealing to me 💀
That's rock bottom man, that's rock bottom
finite galleon
<@357675887035940864>no no that would make sense
😳
🥺 😙 😩
Anyway lemme know how it goes once you start going deep
candid escarp
Harvest could still technically be despecialized for something else, all it needs to do is be proc'd off chaos to use apogee
finite galleon
That is true
candid escarp
it's prolly a good idea in the long run, seeing as I'm not spamming chaos bolts, it's use as needed
drifting idol
That's rock bottom man, that's rock bottom
i confess, i have been a dirty boy, daddy 🥺
man i rly hope the acolyte rework is gonna be good tbh
finite galleon
Yeah 13 stacks isn't easy to proc. My uberroth plan atm involves me pre-stacking 12 stacks and not using it in phase 1. I'll see how that goes this weekend ig.
finite galleon
i confess, i have been a dirty boy, daddy 🥺
Aintnoway you've already fallen to temptation while being new to LE, aintnoway
you're a lost cause javors
drifting temple
man i rly hope the acolyte rework is gonna be good tbh
well honestly lich currently in super good state with coal. i would like to see harvest giga buffs tho
finite galleon
My one and only advice: navigate to the chat titled Sentinel, and there find your damnation
candid escarp
now theres a stupid idea
despec harvest, respec rip blood, add 'chaos bolts also rip blood' and go into the blood splatter/minion buffing stuff
finite galleon
yeah that's solid too, rip blood is a lot more consistent, just make sure not to grab the blood splatter node that makes it cost more mana if mana proves to be the bottleneck again at some point
candid escarp
I wish I could see my minions' stats directly
finite galleon
Same tbh. At least grim dawn and GDtools displayed quite a bit more pet stats
but of what use is it to you? You just send them straight to their death anyway
Smoge.
candid escarp
did I tell you what happened when I took the 'dread shade drains nearby minions too but they explode on death' node
finite galleon
what's wrong with that node tho
candid escarp
basically with lone watcher, the MAIN TARGET of dread shade doesnt take drain
but its still CALCULATING the drain
so when it says 'drains nearby minions'
finite galleon
Mmhmm
candid escarp
that means dread shade hits a point where any minion that enters the aura dies instantaneously due to losing like 400% of its max health
finite galleon
ohh cuz it keeps track of its duration huh, funny
candid escarp
so yeah those nodes are incompatible
finite galleon
Btw are you on legacy or cycle
candid escarp
cycle
finite galleon
KEKW alrighty then, gone is the hope to see your build in action
candid escarp
i mean itl hit legacy eventually
finite galleon
i mean itl hit legacy eventually
That's one way to look at it ig, oh well
tawdry rock
3
finite galleon
If it's 3 then 5k is still a bit on the squishy side (for a necro at least)
finite galleon
okay then I'm clueless
candid escarp
hah. this do work, I chaos bolt the zombie cluster, they all explode, there is now a 15% damage buff circle that my death knight is standing in with a trio of fresh vanguards
pearl snow
Like 5k?
5k plus is good yeah
Depending on your defensive layers it may not be enough but thats a nice idle number
tawdry rock
Defensive layer? As in me giving myself marked on death and reducing all my res under cap 🥲
candid escarp
wellp I got a ribbon of blood, we're replacing arboreal circuit
will the death knight still be fine
yeah he seem fine so far
finite galleon
Oh yeah it should be
finite galleon
👍
candid escarp
Im gonna miss these things when I find a suitable replacement
Vomit has proven to be a super integral part of the build XD
not only does it make them not auto detonate so I can pop them with chaos bolt easily, but it makes them spam hit targets and apply armor shred
theyre also pretty handy for clearing massive swarms without needing to blow up, too
drifting idol
@finite galleonnice name
finite galleon
<@357675887035940864>nice name
Tnx Javors. I can only go so long calling myself salty. It does not capture my based-ness
finite galleon
not only does it make them not auto detonate so I can pop them with chaos bolt e...
vomit armour shred do be crazy
finite galleon
Im gonna miss these things when I find a suitable replacement
This is actually one of the giga endgame snapshotting options for abom. So you know where to head towards if you miss them one day.
Yeah gifs are disabled, prolly from the 1.0 release days. It was crowded back then.
为什么我遇到的同志都不太对劲，比如动辄要叫Daddy
drifting idol
和你玩笑 乖
finite galleon
Ah scheisse you're in the pillars and owlcat servers too
why is it that I never saw you around there
finite galleon
Wait were you around when I was in my "daily racially motivated rant" arc in the pillars server?
finite galleon
you know that poem is like, used in p0rn writing
Damn I thought 陆游 was onto some of that political intrigue. Apparently it's just porn all along huh.