💀┃acolyte

[old hull]

It is, unless you kill it or run temp abom

[warm prawn]

I was going to do abomination necro but snapshotting is effort so I'm trying stgian coal lich but I don't know how to play it.

[wise basalt]

"but you don't need snapshotting☝️🤓"

[grave plume]

Correct me if I am wrong but: if a build I am following has an exalted piece, is there a reason why I would not want to replace it with a legendary?

[obtuse quest]

You don't need snapshotting for non-abberoth/uberroth/before 500c

[pearl snow]

There might not be a legendary thats also good in that slot

[obtuse quest]

Does your legendary have 4 lps?

[grave plume]

it has 3

[crisp ridge]

no way, someone saying the same thing i said, who woulda thought

😂

[crisp ridge]

implicits, more stats you can control, etc.

some stuff is only on non-uniques

[obtuse quest]

Then maybe, depending on what the unique is and if all 4 stats are importannt.

[warm prawn]

I might go abom anyway then, cause trying to figure out how to play coal lich is hurting my head, the video is just them smoothly flying about and hitting rip blood sometimes but currently I'm just <_>

[wise basalt]

I will go abom today too

[crisp ridge]

but you need snap shotting for abom 🤔

[wise basalt]

If I hate it then I will say good bye to necro until s3

"you just have to farm this item which is 1 to 1200 and you stop dying easy lol 🤓"

||I'm mad because I have to work 8 hours now before I can play again||

[crisp ridge]

if u truly believe that idk

nearly all builds will function at 100corr(assumingtheir not terrible or ur underleveled) with no uniques, barring situations like sygian coa

[wise basalt]

I'm lvl 82

[grave plume]

new wraithlord build is up :O

[wise basalt]

Oh my God

[grave plume]

My poor skellies

[obtuse quest]

LOL

[grave plume]

they are about to be shelved :c

[wise basalt]

Good bye abom, didn't even get to now ya, hello wraithlord

[warm prawn]

wraithlord where 👀

[wise basalt]

Which site btw?

[grave plume]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olZnLmJQ

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 92

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,297, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Mana: 98.47, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 112% / 65% / 64% / 72% / 109% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 459
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (171)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (551)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Summon Wraith / Transplant / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

This build has a guide:

New Wraithlord Necromancer Endgame 2.0 Build | Cleared 5000+ Corruption In 1.17 by Mattjestic Life

[wise basalt]

Love you

[grave plume]

I don't have the helm so I will give my skelly boyz the time to enjoy themselves a bit more.

[drifting trench]

is it possible to fuse an exalted scepter into a unique wand or vice versa?

[wise basalt]

I've got the helmet with the rune the second try

Now I need the T-shirt 100% of necros are using so you don't die anymore

[obtuse quest]

No, wand to wand

[drifting trench]

ty

[grave plume]

IDK I think it could turn out good If I get a better exalt to smash

[obtuse quest]

@pearl snow I'm scared, apoco actually has potential.

[pearl snow]

hell yeah

Ive scooped up 3 really good necks and im not sure if decrepify is better

I hit dummies and its all within 1k lmao

granted im not self cursing

the implicits suck but oh well

[pearl jewel]

i thought they killed that helm

[obtuse quest]

600 With normal zombies
1.3k chaos bolt procced.
1.8k apo zombies no chaos
8k apo zombies with chaos.
40int

[grave plume]

Why would I want parry chance on weapon!?

[obtuse quest]

Does not include the ignite they apply and the fact that apo zombies aoe is huge

[pearl snow]

pog

[obtuse quest]

Another defense layer, if parry procs you take 0 damage but still suffer debuffs.

[grave plume]

That's what my minion army is for

[obtuse quest]

Sometimes, enemies can decide to ignore your minion army.

[grave plume]

that's not allowed

[obtuse quest]

Too bad!

OH my god LMAO

[pearl snow]

Im at 199 corruption and I need to be at 200 for next harbinger quest. Ive gone so far away and havent seen another shade send help

[grave plume]

I need to adjust my loot filter to block all non necro gear

[obtuse quest]

If infernal shade gets replaced as a minion buff, the explosion still happens.

[grave plume]

so annoying seeing 2/3 lp gear I can never use

I love this game's loot filter

That will get rid of so much trash that keeps dropping

[crisp ridge]

imited my iflter to only show 3lp 😂

[pearl snow]

gamer

[crisp ridge]

someone let me swap the base 😭

[grave plume]

the only reason I play poe/diablo/LE is to play necro so for me there is no fear of missing out on a crazy 8lp dagger

eew

[crisp ridge]

daggers can still be useful on necros

[pearl snow]

you get double exalted like candy today

[grave plume]

Bows are still showing

[crisp ridge]

unironically, yea

[pearl snow]

ive been hunting for a shade in this mono for over an hour

[grave plume]

need to disable bows

[pearl snow]

how has it not spawned

LOL

[grave plume]

Well that's fine then, I just blocked items that necro can't equip in the first place

[pearl snow]

okay good my complaining worked

[crisp ridge]

W

[grave plume]

Is the second condition I added seperate from the first? As in: I want to block everything that necro cannot equip, and also quivers

Or would i need a new rule specifically for quivers?

[crisp ridge]

itll only find quivers that are class able for primalist/mage/sent/rogue and are unique/lego/set

[grave plume]

Okay, so I'll make a new rule then. ty

[crisp ridge]

what are you wanting it to show?

[grave plume]

I want to HIDE all items that I cannot use.

ALL non-acolyte items

even 4lp idc

The only class this game has is necro.

[crisp ridge]

youd just have this at the bottom of ur filter

[warm prawn]

<_> okay this wraithlord build is butts at level 50, I'm gonna have to spec into something else to level

That or instead of tyring to do level 58 monos I go back to leveling through campaign... or go realy slowly through monos until I can put the helmet on

[compact sorrel]

I was levelling with minion necro build from maxrolls but without abonination, only with golem and it was smooth. Got the helm from MG tho im not patent:D

[hardy sapphire]

fire minion build felt super good while lvling and at early late game

doesnt need anything

[warm prawn]

is that the maxroll one or is it somewhere else?

[hardy sapphire]

dunno, pulled it out of my ass as i did my first char

at first i used fire archers + fire mages + perma wraiths + fire golem. Now at lvl70ish+ i swapped archers off and added dread shade and abomination

Feels super good to have permanent abom + 2 permanent fire wraiths

[warm prawn]

hmmm I'll look

[hardy sapphire]

do note that the gameplay consists of you walking/teleporting and nothing else, everything just dies around me

[warm prawn]

noted.

[zenith basin]

i've been trying out sanguine regalia body armor but i don't think i understand what the minion leech actually does, does it allow minions to leech for me or for themselves?

[crisp ridge]

they leech for themselves, you leech for yourself

[zenith basin]

ahh ok thx

[little yarrow]

should I use this to gigaboost my Witchfire dmg?

[pearl snow]

if you have global bleed chance itd work

[crisp ridge]

witchfire doesnt have fire dot tag

just an fyi

[little yarrow]

I know, but for Grimhilde's domain

[pearl snow]

You gotta double check that the conversion doesnt happen on hit

if its global bleed should be fine

[crisp ridge]

i tbh dont think its worth it

unless u get an insane 4lp or somethin

[pearl snow]

I dont think so, ignite chance is pretty easy to get too

and you need damned sources

[crisp ridge]

losing ward/sec, hybrid hp, hp, armour

[little yarrow]

I see, you're right

[obtuse quest]

Someone tested it ytd, converted chance doesn’t work.

[pearl snow]

Ive got 4 2LP firstarters hopefully they are better than my wand praydge

[crisp ridge]

time to roll a sent lads

[obtuse quest]

The inc fire damage does work, witchfire is technically fire dot

[crisp ridge]

but surely its only half effectiveness basically? since its a mixed dot

[obtuse quest]

Yes it’s only half( the fire part) ,but it does work

[crisp ridge]

thats fine, it still has about the same use either wya, since youre ignite stacking.

[obtuse quest]

Ye

[crisp ridge]

but that doesnt mean taking unique gloves for it is worth it

necro/fire dot% as a stat is just a secondary stat that you take if you cant take anything else better

[obtuse quest]

No, not when the bleed convert doesn’t work.

Just mentioning the stat itself works.

[crisp ridge]

even if it did work, i dont think its useful

like where are you ending up with bleed chance from?

[weak vessel]

so witchfire scales really well with ele dot. time to farm all pieces with t7s ele dots

[obtuse quest]

Dot scales better on paper, you’re only scaling the fire part with ele dot.

[obtuse quest]

Fair.

[pearl snow]

This tells a story

[crisp ridge]

yea ele is only fire/ice/elec, necro not included

same point where, if ur taking fire or necro dot%, its a last resort

[obtuse quest]

Ele dot is effectively half effectiveness compared to inc dot

[weak vessel]

yeah I know. I just wanna see how big the witchfire number can get to

[crisp ridge]

thik ele dot % is actually just worse coz rolls are worse than fire dot %?

[marble palm]

Reduced crit on a shield seems like a waste of a suffix to me

[pearl snow]

Ele dot on a weapon goes super high but yes its 50-% effective

[weak vessel]

so rn each tick is 162k with ele dot swap when compared to 140k my DoT gear

[obtuse quest]

Not really? Fire dot is nuch rarer. So we compared it to normal dot.

[crisp ridge]

ig if rareness is a concern, but personally for my gear i just stacked dot% and no necro/fire dot%

tho, i did go for the set affix on my mh, where as others may not have

[obtuse quest]

Ele dot is 110 at T5 max and dot is 60 at T5 max

The only source of fire damage over time affix acolyte has access to is meteor champ iirc

[crisp ridge]

yea but 60*2 is a lot more worth while

[obtuse quest]

Yup

[crisp ridge]

or ig 110/2 is less worth

ele dot still has use on say 2lp relic(id still take defence where possible tho

[ashen bluff]

any fun builds for this <_<

[crisp ridge]

i would like to see someone math out sinathias worthwhile-ness tho

[pearl snow]

sinathias?

[weak vessel]

I am going to go for more ignite stacking with ele dot. it would give more ward gen with ashes and synergize with hubris + bleed from plague and rip blood as well. feeling a bit squish at 400c with current setup of DoT and necrotic

[obtuse quest]

Find a way to solve sacrifice’s mana problem and you’ll have a keystone of a very funny build

[pearl snow]

oh fug

[obtuse quest]

Slightly loses to firestarters with lp

[pearl snow]

wait thats crazy

[ashen bluff]

is going 20x on minor weavers enough?

[crisp ridge]

youd need a really good firestarters slam tho, like 4lp

[obtuse quest]

Flat curse does nothing to us, and the inc% barely matches the % more from firetstarters.

I tested the calculations with a 2lp slam

I even used the fire pen mace lmao

[weak vessel]

I desperately need a 4lp fire starter as well

[crisp ridge]

72% fire dot v 213% curse? even at 66% scaling thats way better?

[obtuse quest]

Regen is too slow for it

[obtuse quest]

Firestarters has a line which gives you 40%~ more dot damage against targets with spreading flames

Wait that’s only fire dmg

[crisp ridge]

oh u are right, i read that as spreading flames does more dmg

it still affects half of witchfire surely?

[pearl snow]

Im about to test one

[obtuse quest]

Okay i might have to double check my cals

[pearl snow]

it does do half

[ashen bluff]

shame

[pearl snow]

Is beating a 2LP Firstarters sadge

vs

[crisp ridge]

your mh options to me seem to be

profane wand doesnt seem useful unless early.
Other 2 idk

[pearl snow]

10k DoT tick diff

now I gotta find a mace ew

[crisp ridge]

my issue with firestarters is you need to apply spreading flames for dmg amp, but for most my play i was procing witchfire and just running through enemeis

[pearl snow]

With CB spreading flames is guarnteed

basically

[crisp ridge]

yea but that means u have to keep casting cb

[pearl snow]

granted I hate 50% chance for 3 extra proj

[obtuse quest]

Some people need that mana cost cut from fire starter which makes sense

[weak vessel]

I think for boss fights firestarter would be the way to go. would be able to test it once I get it setup

[pearl snow]

Id have to find a damn good mace I think. My wand getting the Curse Dmg Base % is going crazy

[obtuse quest]

It applies to almost everything

[pearl snow]

prob why firestarters is 10k lower

[obtuse quest]

If ya’ll want to be even funnier hollow lich is an option.

[pearl snow]

that the axe

[crisp ridge]

why yall makin me do this

[pearl snow]

?

if you find a 4lp

be my guest lmao

[crisp ridge]

ig a 3 will suffice

[obtuse quest]

If you find a 3lp firestarter that’s probably better than mace simply cause you also gain the mana cost cut

[weak vessel]

currently using this wand (best I got so far). base fire starter without any slam ios 50k lower per tick

[crisp ridge]

i never had mana issues peronally

[obtuse quest]

2lp the mace is probably better

[crisp ridge]

yea but ill faily 99 times

currently focused on my cooked mage build tbh

[pearl snow]

Isnt Profane just better than that mace

[crisp ridge]

doesnt seem to be imo

just coz 66% scaling

[pearl snow]

you get the curse dmg implicit. Can role double DoT

and Ignite

so it ends up just being better

[weak vessel]

witchfire gets 66% more damage of increased curse damage

[pearl snow]

the benefit of sinathias is that you can craft the curse dmg right

it goes up to 100%, only 40% higher than base of Profane

but you lose a prefix

[obtuse quest]

Curse dmg% is effectively a % more so the difference might batter

[pearl snow]

oh shit]

[crisp ridge]

sinathias also just rolls extremely high

[pearl snow]

more mod

it gets me everytime

[crisp ridge]

213% with t7

[obtuse quest]

YES the relic transfer is a more mod not an inc mod

[pearl snow]

TIME TO FILTER UPDATE

[crisp ridge]

granted thats really hard to get

[obtuse quest]

Havoc and pray lmao

[crisp ridge]

exactly

[obtuse quest]

It is what it is

[weak vessel]

I don't know if witchfire scales with flat curse damage. in LE tools it only says Damage over time

[obtuse quest]

No. We ignore that part.

It doesn’t work with witchfire

We only care about how high that % inc curse dmg it can roll

[weak vessel]

gotchu

[worldly breach]

how's the single target on witchfire ?

[pearl snow]

If you stack ignitres

not bad

[obtuse quest]

You suppliment it with some other things like normal DoT stacking with fissure+CB or some other tricks.

[pearl snow]

Im vibing in 250 corruption atm

[weak vessel]

for me currently, without any other buff/modifiers, witchfire on dummy is 162k per tick, which is 320k per second

[pearl snow]

Im ticking 160k with defensive stuff on so it should be great once gear evolves

[worldly breach]

i gotta whip the dummy in a bit to get an understanding of how it compares

[crisp ridge]

did anyone ever cook a spine of malmatros build? it got buffed this patch right?

[worldly breach]

i'm playing it rn

doing fine enough in 100c but survivability is kinda meh atm

[pearl snow]

Im working on that after my witchfire

I had a 1.0 guide 🙂

I think I made it to like 250 in 1.0

[crisp ridge]

wish levelling was quicker 😔 too many things i wanna play

[obtuse quest]

Maybe I should spend sometime in legacy for a bit to see if the apoc build works…

[crisp ridge]

i was just thinkin about legacy coz ik i hve a char levelled 😂

[worldly breach]

i'm a bit sad about the ignite chance scaling not getting converted along with the skill

so you cant go full meme poison whip

[weak vessel]

you would want to get ashes of mortality and scale ignite+damned chance. you get a lot of ward from it.

[worldly breach]

yeah been thinking of transitioning from lowlife setup to ward on hit setup

with a side of the relic that sacrifices life to gain ward whose name eludes me

would allow me to swap to titan heart for some well needed damage reduction

[pearl snow]

Oh hey that firestarters is now better by 30k ticks because i took off cradle

LOL

[worldly breach]

should also improve the single target if i then get the self ignite belt too

[obtuse quest]

What? If you get the ignite chance per second node + the poison convert you’ll see fire whip apply poison

[obtuse quest]

LMAO

[pearl snow]

Fire whip is treated as a conversion

[worldly breach]

you lose all the flat from ignite chance

[obtuse quest]

No, it’s converted to poison along with it iirc

And requires poison chance instead

[worldly breach]

intresting

[little yarrow]

I am using this

[worldly breach]

that might actually make it better for me

i need to look into that

[obtuse quest]

Unless I have memory loss it’s alt text explains it

[worldly breach]

nono

it makes sense

if it then requires actual "poison chance" on char sheet

ofc

im a fokin dumdum

i need a new spine ffs

[obtuse quest]

The moment I got my hands on the unique I tested that node lmao

Works for the physical convert as well

[worldly breach]

i realize i just was dum

[obtuse quest]

It is what it is

[worldly breach]

oof tho

idk if i can avoid using the poison rings then

but holy

this changes everything

best part being i can clear trash with aura of decay if all goes well

you may have single handedly fixed my build

[obtuse quest]

Hahahahahahahaha

(I really don't recommend it)

[worldly breach]

you have also caused me to respec pretty much the whole build

[little yarrow]

why can't the game remember my last opened tab?

[worldly breach]

i'll end up using aura of decay for inc poison damage either way

[obtuse quest]

Okay I'm not insane.

[worldly breach]

the thing is

[pearl snow]

When I last tested that in 1.0.5 it didnt inherit that ignite chance

[delicate belfry]

Is dreads volatile zombie build probably outclassing stygian coal lich?

[pearl snow]

please tell me it does now

[worldly breach]

i was trying to scale it with ignite chance still

im just an idjet who didnt use brain

[obtuse quest]

It stole my poison chance when I converted, so it should work unless the node broke agian.

[pearl snow]

thats big

[obtuse quest]

(This ALSO means the whips can fukkin apply Acid Skin per hit.)

[pearl snow]

that probably means flame whip hits 500

YEP

[worldly breach]

ill test it VERY SOON

its insane alr with fire

[pearl snow]

I got Flame of Midnight so Ill be swapping to that non fissure build soon kzb

[worldly breach]

but with poison we get 100% crit chance with ease

[pearl snow]

cant wait to prove myself wrong and it be shit

[obtuse quest]

LMAO

[worldly breach]

and with 100% crit chance

necro res will be goated dmg stat

[obtuse quest]

Cooking flame whip seems like we're back to "Can we crit cap CB and abuse double damage with acid skin" back in 1.0

[worldly breach]

i'll test next level

or even earlier

[brittle zodiac]

guys, im doing necromancer with auto zombie. im struggling at corruption 200. can anyone help

[pearl snow]

send character

we might be able to

[brittle zodiac]

how to send character?

[pearl snow]

Last epoch tools

character profile

[brittle zodiac]

ah ok gimme a minute

[worldly breach]

oh god

i've been a fool

[obtuse quest]

Did it work

[worldly breach]

it works

[obtuse quest]

may this tech serve you well

(Also hollow lich if you need generic % inc)

[worldly breach]

already got hollow lich to avoid losing all my ward generation

[brittle zodiac]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/N0kk_Grom/character/NokkGaardd

[worldly breach]

time to gamble on a new spine

200% ignite chance isnt doing anything on the current one

shite im out of cash i gotta go farm up before i can do this

[north lance]

Havoc couldn't even save it

[obtuse quest]

F

[little yarrow]

worth using just for the curse?

witchfire

[pearl snow]

not with witchfire

youd want the other one

[weak vessel]

we want the decrepify one

[little yarrow]

I already have decrepify from ghostflame

this is the only curse I am missing

[obtuse quest]

Doing a apoco test in legacy

This is jank, clunky

But holy shit that clear

[pearl snow]

In a change everyone saw coming

Sprits has much worse output

[obtuse quest]

Apoc relies too much on profane to do actual boss damage, urghhh'

[pearl snow]

rip

Yeah wandering not being able to ignite as much as fissure just kills it

[obtuse quest]

But the clear is disgusting

Like, zombies will blow up almost the whole screen disgusting

[pearl snow]

ooo

[obtuse quest]

I don't have the legacy gear to properly push this, but it has some potential, if clunky

[pearl snow]

I was hoping Flame of Midnight would scale better sadge

prob needs some LP

[frank remnant]

Generally this type of node is affected by CDR or not?

[obtuse quest]

No, CDR only affects the hotbar.

[frank remnant]

hm the perk is so damn bad then

even with the vitality stacking one

[obtuse quest]

Only good if you're constantly low life to begin with.

Even then it's kinda mid.

[pearl jewel]

so the wraith lord build is back in action hey

[frank remnant]

this one from warlock is way too powerful in comparaison, I prefer to invest point on ward retention tbh

[obtuse quest]

This also cleanses enemy curses so it's closer to a double edged sword

[frank remnant]

reapplying curse is not a problem in my build tbh

[worldly breach]

wish me luk

trying to slap poison chance + crit multi on my spine

[frank remnant]

someone already cooked something with lots of hit with anguish curse?

[worldly breach]

got melee lightning damage

gonna need to make another later

[obtuse quest]

What the f I need a cycle not this thing

[worldly breach]

i need a few tongues

[distant solar]

anyone here know why my casted version of drain life is moving around and stopping its damage when i use other abilities

[obtuse quest]

Iirc if you cast anything else the circle should stay and just do it's thing and not follow you.

UNLESS they broke it

[distant solar]

its definately moving to whereever my cursor is when i do anything else

[sharp bison]

Where does the mod drop for + level to summon wraith? Is this a global drop?

[distant solar]

even when i dodge

[obtuse quest]

ANywhere, mark it in your loot filter and pray.

[sharp bison]

thx

[obtuse quest]

Sounds like it bugged out, try a relog and if it's still like that file a bug report

[distant solar]

ok so i relogged and tried it again same interaction ill report it, so annoying tho

[vale jacinth]

very diverse.

[hardy sapphire]

something like 10 skellies, 5+ mages, couple golems, 6 wraiths

[obtuse quest]

Bigger number count=faster they will wipe

[vale jacinth]

and you can focus certain minion builds to get more. aberroths call unique item gives you a lot more max wraiths, aarons will gives you a higher maximum amount of golems, zombies you can have 5

[crisp ridge]

hey kzb, how far has ur witchfire gotten? corr wise

[obtuse quest]

Not empowered yet, I'm still leveling and getting uniques

[crisp ridge]

fair

clearing monos with 140% movespeed is kinda fun 🤔

[pearl snow]

Damn 140

[crisp ridge]

yea, my frames drop so bad

[coarse dew]

anyone know if the abom build becomes less clunky with minions teleported experimental? saw a video, looks fun, but I hate waiting for the abom to come and smack

[crisp ridge]

can get it on rings, should be worth it

[noble pivot]

how is viable chthonic fissure as a starter?

[eternal heath]

Does either of "increased buff effect" or "increased health decay" of Scales of Lemniscate unique 2h axe interract with "Lone Watcher" node negative effect?

[obtuse quest]

Yes, probably warlock's best leveling skill.

[obtuse quest]

Yes, "Increased health decay" becomes "Increased damage taken", just like all the nodes.

[eternal heath]

so, knowing that , does only the "increased health decay" part interract with the Lone Watcher node, or does it get increased by 30% from "increased buff effect" of the axe as well after that (double-dip i guess in this situation)

[obtuse quest]

No, since it's considered a debuff, doesn't double dip. Buff effect in this case means all actual buffs.

[ashen bluff]

dreadful had a build for cruelty that actually just used it to trigger more hits for bone curse

[little yarrow]

apparently this is rare 🤔

[ashen bluff]

I think I could actually make this into a wlock build.... <_< hmmm

[obtuse quest]

Yup, pretty rare.

[little yarrow]

these are not global right?

[obtuse quest]

IF you can cast something while channeling, those casted things technically snapshot the stats.

[charred echo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/ErictheSuper/character/HaxxLockSeasonTwo having issues w uber abberoth rn, idk what more tanky I can get. I have more 1lp red rings but

zdps if I lose flames

[little yarrow]

for purposes of witchfire

[fading topaz]

ngl Cthonic Fissure Infernal Shade Warlock kind fun for leveling, dont know if it is viable in Endgame tho🤕

[obtuse quest]

Witchfire only considers generic chance.

[haughty token]

I've been using it for now, doing monoliths 100 no corruption yet, still pretty fine dps

[charred echo]

Like atp idk if the spec feasibly does it without like, giga ghostflame gear

[pearl snow]

Considering you are at Uber, I doubt it needs a gear change

most likely just skill

[charred echo]

Ig, you kill it on warlock?

Or have any clips?

[pearl snow]

Nah im not near uber yet, barely anyone is

Ive only seen a lich kill afaik

but I assume if a lock can its torment lock

[marble palm]

are there any minion builds that are good late game?

[pearl snow]

wraithlord

[charred echo]

Bro wym people have it on farm, you seriously telling me no other warlock has done it?

[pearl snow]

a small population have it on farm lmao. Even smaller produce content

I also dont look out for it

youd have to dig

[obtuse quest]

Single big minions, wraithlord, abomination, archmage...

[lost arch]

Are there any good leveling gears for Acolyte to use early on?

[obtuse quest]

Other than the bogstandard firestarter's torch, I don't think so.

[lost arch]

thx, firestarter's torch
What features should this item have? prefixes ?

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't need any. It's that good by itself.
But if you must: Anything ailment related.

[lost arch]

Thanks for the details.

[obtuse quest]

Holy crap my clear went from "okay" to "everything's on fire" with the witchfire unique lmao

Consistency is disgusting.

[pearl snow]

yeah it goes crazy

[brittle zodiac]

hey guys. need some help. i can kill mobs at corruption 200 but most of the time i failed to finish a map because i just died to 1 shot. this is my build. https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/N0kk_Grom/character/NokkGaardd

[pearl snow]

once you get firestarters and a decent offhand you just start vibing

I had issues dying but it was because I cared too much about casting CB

[pearl snow]

phys res isnt capped

Also is your life drain keeping you below like 20% at all times

[obtuse quest]

No phys res, no crit protection.

[brittle zodiac]

which crit protection? the avoid one or reduce dmg taken should i stack?

[pearl snow]

either

[brittle zodiac]

yes life usually under 20%

[pearl snow]

its prob the phys res and crit reduction then

[obtuse quest]

Either.

[pearl snow]

you just need one

[brittle zodiac]

stack them to 100% yea?

[pearl snow]

yeah just need 1 of them to 100

[brittle zodiac]

cool

thanks 🙂

oh btw is there any buff for when im "low life"

[obtuse quest]

Not for necros.

[coarse dew]

hows witchfire taxi in the new patch? does it even work with wasd?

[obtuse quest]

Yup, but the range isn't THAT big.

5 meters is pretty small

[brittle zodiac]

cool thanks

[coarse dew]

i found (albeit on sentinel) that the solution to uber aberroth on non-op builds is to get more damage.

as long as I don't just die to small mistakes (walking into dot, 1 necro slash, able to facetank autos) that's enough surv

[charred echo]

Yeah problem with warlock is you can't tank any autos without bare minimum either a shield or super high cast speed for twisted heart

[coarse dew]

oof that sounds brutal

[little yarrow]

any reason to show rare items lategame, other than for shard harvesting?

I can only think of if they have very rare affixes, like +lvls

[obtuse quest]

Just for shards.

[coarse dew]

the only other improvement I can see other than higher lps is belt. since it's a really long fight maybe exalted, other uniques, or isadoras even

[brittle zodiac]

feels better now holyy thanks everyone. but my void res is 0 lmao

[charred echo]

you take chains for the base damage, 12% all damage converts to 1.2% base crit with acid skin, and baked in necro res. The 250 armor might be the difference but idk

[tropic bobcat]

Lads im tired of farming reign of chaos mono for twisted heart

Send positive energy

[lyric idol]

you got this

[charred echo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olZlP9kQ potentially

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (28) / Warlock (65)

General:

▸ Health: 1,681, Regen: 17.2/s
▸ Mana: 293.1, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 336%, Regen: 174/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 15 Dex / 142 Int / 5 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 75% / 140% / 137% / 104% / 393% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 336
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (71)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,820)
▸ Block Chance: 59%, Mitigation: 41% (1,386)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Ghostflame / Profane Veil / Transplant

[charred echo]

I have the wand, chest, neck, shield, helmet and rings already

Need 2LP blood mage's and a goated relic

[marsh lichen]

Hi, does the affix "#% increased spell damage per skeletal Mage" increase the damage of Mages or other Minion or really only skills I cast? Thanks a lot!

[old hull]

Only skills you cast

[obtuse quest]

It boosts your spell damage.

[marsh lichen]

thank you both!

[primal remnant]

Hi !
Does the hungering souls from skeleton knights scales off anything ? Apparently it's not affected by Hungering Souls tree, but it's unclear whether they benefit from the knights' reasonably high base damage and added damage effectiveness

[obtuse quest]

It’s their spell, so the usual minion damage and minion spell stats

[primal remnant]

so it does count as a subskill ? Anything from the skeletal mage tree (crit chance, more projectiles, dmg) benefit it as well, but not the hungering souls tree itself ?

[old hull]

It's not a subskill, but since your skeletal mage tree applies a bunch of stats to your mages, they use those stats for casting all the skills they use

[ruby oracle]

Hey guys might be a stupid question but does the wraith lord attack speed scale with minion attack speed or minion cast speed?

[old hull]

No stupid questions. LE Tools has minion stats: https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/wraithlord
Looks like all its skills scale with cast speed

[ruby oracle]

Thanks for the link that will actually help a lot with my future builds

[sturdy ember]

is the damned ailment considered a curse (for warlock damage increase purposes)? i searched online and people seem to think it is but i looked at the wiki and it doesnt have the curse tag

[mystic zealot]

guys one of my firends is asking whats a good dps oriented necro build ?

[primal remnant]

Wraithlord is best afaik

it requires a unique helmet, and after that you're good to go

[obtuse quest]

No, it's just a necrotic ailment.

[obtuse quest]

Any big single minion.
wraithlord, abomination.

[haughty sedge]

So I got a Death's Embrace. My DPS does go down if I equip it, but I decided to do it anyway because of the large crit reduction. Do you think this is a good choice?

I'm starting to think that defense trumps offense in scenarios like this.

Although I also think tooltip DPS might not take into account that every third hit is 3x damage.

So I don't think the DPS loss is that big.

[obtuse quest]

Tooltip won't account for buffs, so a dummy is your best bet

[haughty sedge]

I mean I don't even have the arena unlocked lol.

[haughty sedge]

And what do you mean by 'buffs' in this context?

Because tooltip DPS does change if I reaper form and then death seal.

[obtuse quest]

Reaper form and death seal gives stats so those can be calculated, but mostly I meant those that don't give straight up stats.

[haughty sedge]

Like "Every third hit you cast this upgraded version of this skill".

Also, although I don't have any added spell damage, I feel like the death waves still deal okay damage.

[obtuse quest]

60 base + lich getting a decent amount of generic damage buffs means it will at least hit for something, but that's kinda about it

[odd mortar]

Guys, I'm having an existencial crisis here.
I levelled til 70 using the basic Warlock levelling guide from Maxroll and I REALLY loved it. The playstyle. I'm yet clearing initial monoliths with ease.

At 70 I tried to switch to an ''endgame build''. The Stygian Coal one specifically. I can't express in words my frustration. Barely could clear a pack. The ''everything exploding around me and killing everything'' factor was simply gone. I don't think Lich is the right thing for me.

The question is: is there any build that's kinda an 'extended' version of the levelling build, only optimized for endgame? I'm almost giving up the class to try another one and I REALLY don't wanna do that. I love the acolyte :/

[obtuse quest]

Torment warlock and witchfire warlock.

[odd mortar]

Thank you. Gonna take a look at those.

[wheat nexus]

hey, where do i find the minion teleport to you after a traversal skill affix to slam it on a unique?

[wheat nexus]

same for me and switched to crit shade lich is 100 times better in my opinion

[charred oriole]

It's an experimental affix

[obtuse quest]

Experimental on boots, from exiled mages,
Or sealed as a ring affix, from champions.

[haughty sedge]

Honestly, I think more people should be using starters that aren't reliant on specific kinds of gear to reach their base line.

[wheat nexus]

and you can guarantee slam it ?

if boots have 1 lp?

[charred oriole]

Yes, but you need to get the experimental affix on an exalted item first. Then do Sact 2+

[vivid valve]

Lich takes some good gear and high lvl of skills. Can't just reroll it and do good

Unless you are in MG with tons of cash

I saved up two putrid rings, ox chest, lich gloves, and Crit wep and offhand before switching to crit shade lich

[sweet shore]

Question for the pros, I'm pretty new (<100 hours), I leaguestarted with a Paladin. I'm now doing the Torment Warlock build from maxroll and I feel super squishy. My gear is okay. But I have to move around a lot and my health drops super fast in just 100c.

Is this just "Yeah that's every class except for Sentinel"? Or am I doing something wrong?

[vivid valve]

And even then it sucked until skills were at 22

But now it kinda kicks ass. I need to convert to 1lp items but need to farm more gold

[tiny acorn]

for coal lich build do i need to care about ward/sec while channeling ?

[gaunt abyss]

i wonder how much this worth on a torment warlock build

[restive kayak]

hey guys anyone played stygian beam lich? any commentary on it?

[tiny acorn]

im playing it its nice

[obtuse quest]

It's more of "This is Lich, we have two health bars and the bar is a rollercoaster."

[obtuse quest]

No

[obtuse quest]

You don't really do hit damage so...

[gaunt abyss]

the fissure proc CB so maybe for that?
and i use rip blood for the spell bonus, but its not huge dmg?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#passives-header
that the build, not sure why its there

look like its focus on curse stacking and torment no?

[charred echo]

It's to fish for double damage crits with the chill node of chaos bolts or the passice

[frank remnant]

probably basic question but, does necrotic damage from gear will benefit my bleed dmg here, and does any conversion will create a "double dip" for example if I stack necro and phys damage, I gain scaling from both with the conversion node

[obtuse quest]

No.

Converts first before anything else.
And things can only be converted once.

[gaunt abyss]

this? like x4 dmg?

[obtuse quest]

Lol lmao double coal drop.

[obtuse quest]

Yes that one.

[azure dawn]

base crit is hugh because even 1% extra can be equivalent to like 8 % more crit chance depending on how much increased crit chance you have

[gaunt abyss]

have 0 i builb multi crit for torment

[azure dawn]

i think maxroll has it because you're going to stack crit multi anyway and its only one point but yeah idk why its there

[gaunt abyss]

poison dmg is at 70% so that another 7% but still feel like a waste

[azure dawn]

its because they snapshot the idols i thought

the poison damage idols

[gaunt abyss]

but i dont use decay aura

[obtuse quest]

Acid Skin isn't considered base crit, it's final crit.

[azure dawn]

oh i see

then im not sure why

[fast crystal]

do skill talents like this affect ailments caused by the same skill ? for example would this affect torment damage ?

[obtuse quest]

If it doesn't say hit damage, it applies to ailments that skill causes.

[tiny acorn]

i got 4 in 1 map all with 1lp xD

[obtuse quest]

Ewwww

Disgusting

[fading topaz]

Is there season 2 verison of this build (https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0L6PnKQ

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 78

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (13) / Warlock (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,771, Regen: 16.92/s
▸ Mana: 130.39, Regen: 26.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 237%, Regen: 67/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 31 Int / 0 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 38% / 51% / 78% / 8% / 129% / 44%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 354
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (26)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (864)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Transplant / Chthonic Fissure / Infernal Shade / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse

[fading topaz]

🙏 🙏

[atomic atlas]

anyone filter out all useless uniques ?

[cedar crane]

Need a bit of advice
I respecced my build to the new lich infernal shade that dr3adful posted on his channel, but I'm in an awkward position
I don't have any of the "core gear" (the gloves from the bastion boss and a wrongwarp both with good mana reduction) and am way too weak to far the boss necessary for the t3 boss. Overall even on 100 corruption due to mana issues and general lack of gear monos are hard af

[proper bronze]

I got a 3 LP firestarter's torch, why can't my lvl 3 necro equip it?

[obtuse quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3jGckpacr0

[obtuse quest]

Does your lv 3 necro have CoF ranks?

[limpid mural]

check if you are in mg or cof whatever applies 🙂

can join faction in act 1

[obtuse quest]

The gloves are basically required to play the setup.

[cedar crane]

Yeah, I was made aware a bit late sadly

idk what to do now

[proper bronze]

I havent picked a faction yet but yea the Torch acme from MG

[limpid mural]

then just join MG in act 1 and you can equiip it

[cedar crane]

Idk if I even have the money to respecc. Any advice to things I could do? I really want to avoid going back to normal monos, it's depressing and yields very little from it. Just a massive time sink until I spin the wheel enough times and get what I need. Could take days.

[obtuse quest]

Gotta join the faction to use it then.

[proper bronze]

Ohh where in act 1?

Oh nvm i found it. Srry

first time on 2nd char

[obtuse quest]

Other than respeccing into another build of the same mastery there's not much else you can do.

[wise basalt]

Ok so when I actually look what echoes I'm doing and don't stack +100000% enemy damage I don't seem to die that fast

[proper bronze]

Thanks guys

[cedar crane]

Got any ideas? I might have enough money for a respec including changing mastery

[obtuse quest]

If you can mastery change, then going back to torment warlock is probably the better choice

[fading topaz]

so Warlock only have torment...ok😶‍🌫️

[royal flint]

Wait, I just notice you can change specialization now?

[fringe ether]

Yup !

[cedar crane]

you mean the other build he put up earlier with chtonic rift, or something else?

[obtuse quest]

Torment is the easy chioice because it's baseline is strong and it's easy to build.

[obtuse quest]

Yeah that works too.

[fringe ether]

Is the Stygian lich able to Uber Aberroth ? Or Any acolyte build ? I wanna try to do it but I wanna know first if it's possible haha

[cedar crane]

What is the other build you mentioned? torment warlock

The Chtonic fissure build was a bit underwhelming

[pearl snow]

Stygian lich has apparently killed it

[fringe ether]

Oh ?

Do you have a link of the vid/ladder where it is shown ?

[vivid valve]

Yeah Stygian lich killed him and I imagine Abom and Shade Lich should be able too

[fringe ether]

WHere did you see it ? I suppose it's Maxroll version of Stygian ?

[vivid valve]

Yeah I think so. It was on twitch

Stygian needs some good gear to get going tho.

Not just the offhand

[fringe ether]

Yup but tell me if i'm wrong it's atm the best overall build for acolyte no ?

[vivid valve]

Needs crit, crit DMG , hp

[obtuse quest]

Torment warlock, witchfire warlock.

[fringe ether]

Supposedly for now

[vivid valve]

I couldnt go Stygian build on MG. The gear is just too expensive

[fringe ether]

Yup beiing 12 cof and having all the gears already to start something made me think about it, but it's hard to know the power of a build in advance

[vivid valve]

MG is rough. But I'm too lazy to respec now

[cedar crane]

Guess i'll have to find builds for those and pray they do better than chtonic fissure warlock

[sudden void]

ez

[vivid valve]

COF players on average seem to gear way faster.

[frank remnant]

chtonic fissure enable witchfire with chaos bolt cast no? @cedar crane

[robust narwhal]

Following the Maxroll Stygian lich build, is mad alchemist ladle really bis for the build?

[cedar crane]

I don't know, I have very little knowledge about builds

I just prefer to follow guides

[gaunt abyss]

witchfire is calling me

[obtuse quest]

Overloads needs to be direct cast, but yeah fissure can help

[pearl snow]

Fissure itself can inflict Damned and Ignite so itll proc on things like bosses

Albeit not as quickly as spamming CB and hitting the whole volley a couple times

[cedar crane]

Is there a build you'd recommend

I'm kinda desperate at this point ngl

[glossy willow]

guys did they remove level of profane veil in relic rolls?

[lilac bear]

This is just wrong, right?

[fringe ether]

FOr a stygian lich should i go for maxroll's or there is better in the market ?

[obtuse quest]

Considering even tunklabs writes that, it might be a case of using the bone golem as a base.

[pearl snow]

Torment lock easy and straightforward

Witchfire Guides are out there I don’t like them until mines out 🤪

In reality I just havent seen a good Witchfire Guid eyet

[cedar crane]

I just want something good to follow, my lich atm is bricked

[pearl snow]

Lich has Crit Infernal Shade

Which is easy

[cedar crane]

That's what i'm trying to do, but i'm bricked atm

too weak to do anything so i need to reroll

need the wand and gloves with mana reduce, too weak to kill the t3 boss for the gloves

[pearl snow]

Youll just have to suck it up and do content you can clear. For Gold Weaver trees first couple nodes work out great

Think its the bottom left starting node

[gaunt abyss]

make one 🥹
i have the relic

[cedar crane]

I have a bunch of nodes on that tree, that's fine

But the glove and wand are pretty much mandatory

the wand I can just roll the dice until I get it eventually, the gloves are boss only

[delicate belfry]

is the volatile zombie lich stronger than stygian coal?

[gaunt abyss]

not sure if the ivory ring is an improvement here 🤔

[pearl snow]

I’m working on it, waiting to Kill Aberroth Normal before I publish

But I’m AWOL for the next 4 days so it’s delayed sadge

[pearl snow]

As warlock Ivory is nearly always better due to Necrotic Res scaling. However also depends on your skills because DoT may be useless

Also has Int

If Your necro then

[obtuse quest]

Last I checked that build is dead from an affix change.

[pearl snow]

Prob not

[gaunt abyss]

torment is DoT no?

[pearl snow]

As Torment that Ivory is way better

Even without the inclusion of DoT

Your Necro Res scales Torment dmg

[brittle zodiac]

does pyromancer(skeletal mage) still do necrotic dmg?

[obtuse quest]

If you have passives that give + flat necrotic damage, yes.

[brittle zodiac]

you mean from outside the tree or?

[delicate belfry]

check dreads latest video

[brazen drift]

how reaper form can sustain during aura of decay? do i need healing effectiveness and AoD healing node?

[delicate belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3jGckpacr0&t=8s

[wise basalt]

Does intelligence also make my minions stronger?

[rocky sorrel]

can anyone tell me..... why do people use the flame wraith idols for the wraithlord build? the wraithlord doesnt turn into a flame wraith so.........??

[obtuse quest]

Sir that's a infernal shade build.

[wise basalt]

But hen you have 2 flame wraith which deal a good amount of damage too

[obtuse quest]

From your necro passvie tree, from the tree itself, and buffs like dread shade

[obtuse quest]

The wraiths it summons will.

[obtuse quest]

Lots of leech, and AoD's healing node.

[delicate belfry]

well then infernal shade > stygian or no?

[rocky sorrel]

ya...... but their kinda weak in comparison arent they?

[obtuse quest]

Equal, kinda.

[obtuse quest]

They're more useful than the default wraiths at least. If you give them chance to armour shred then they can help land more shreds.

[rocky sorrel]

hm.. alright, ill grab an idol and see how it goes

[bleak horizon]

Does the Rip Blood casts from Marrow Drinker actually damage the minion you're using it on?

[wise basalt]

Does +x amount of intelligence also make my minions stronger?

[bleak horizon]

Or does it just give you the effects

[obtuse quest]

Yes, check alt text.

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[delicate belfry]

whats easier to gear? which is better for bossing since uber aberroth is the target for this season

[plain osprey]

any good melee necro builds? or is it kinda run round and let your skellies kill everything sort of thing?

[livid parcel]

MAX AFIX!

[glossy tree]

Hey has anyone made the new Cruelty relic work i recently got it off of a nemi and tried to build around it as Necromancer any tips I only manage to go into negative mana and die X.X

[obtuse quest]

If you want to be in the fight with your minions, primalist(Beastmaster) is the class to go. Necros here sit at the back buffing and debuffing.

[obtuse quest]

Both equally need the same amount of gear to start popping off, for peak gear I don't know.

[obtuse quest]

Welcome to the problem Cruelty players haven't solved yet.

[wise basalt]

Thanks but it doesn't say anything about minions just "carefully studied magic"

[glossy tree]

fair enough Ill get brewing then thx ^^

[wise basalt]

And this also counts for wraithlord right? (Sorry I have a very low IQ)

[obtuse quest]

Yes, if the wraiths have the same thing.

[wise basalt]

Yeah it has

Thanks

[plain osprey]

I thought so thanks!

[pearl jewel]

does item trading still suck?

[grave plume]

why would a build have phys melee dmg on a minion build?

[obtuse quest]

Good question, what build?

[daring vine]

I think my build is hitting a brick wall at 400 corruption. I'm thinking of upgrading my weapon but still i don't think i would go much further. Any suggestion or this is already cap of the build?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgDq33ko

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Acolyte (26) / Necromancer (81)

General:

▸ Health: 1,530, Regen: 55.4/s
▸ Mana: 127.48, Regen: 9.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 178%, Regen: 269/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 10 Dex / 40 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 99% / 88% / 84% / 82% / 298% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 306
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (220)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (547)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Wraith / Summon Volatile Zombie / Summon Skeletal Mage / Dread Shade

[wise basalt]

I guess wraithlord is way easier to play than abom right?

[pearl jewel]

is there a minimum level on the wraith lord items?

[pearl snow]

Wraith lord does have a min level. I think it was 65 or 85 but check Last Epoch Tools

[obtuse quest]

Maybe run less minions so you can also use infernal shade to buff them? Oh profane, still somewhat possibly relevant

[pearl jewel]

65 it is

are we sure the wraith lord build sitll exists?

i hopped onto my season 1 character, and i can't use the items

[daring vine]

Pretty sure, but it's not that great anymore from what i tried

[wise basalt]

What's better in your opinion?

Damn it took me 4 tries to kill void nemesis at corruption 100 because I died within 5 seconds every time lol

[final oyster]

That thing is evil

[wise basalt]

Oh so it's not only because I'm super bad?

[final oyster]

No void knight

Is cruel

[wise basalt]

Ok that makes me feel a bit better

[final oyster]

I swear that thing is just hardcore nightmare genuinely hate it idk how it beat it

Like it’s so annoying lol have to play so safe to kill lol

[wise basalt]

It was just luck for me and it didn't do the attacks that killed me the three times before and just attacked my minions

But yeah everything that touches me is almost one hit lol

[gaunt abyss]

t7 necro dmg or t7 cooldown recovery?
maxroll say t7 cooldown recovery + nec res.
sadly i dont have necro res

[rancid quarry]

Any Wraithlord lootfiletrs ? Really slowing my zoom zoom checking items all the time..

[wise basalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olZnLmJQ

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 92

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (78)

General:

▸ Health: 2,297, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Mana: 98.47, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 65% / 112% / 65% / 64% / 72% / 109% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 459
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (171)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (551)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Summon Wraith / Transplant / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade

[wise basalt]

Some bosses are behind corruption 300 and when I see how much trouble I have with 100 already I think I will never see all of the content lol

[final oyster]

It’s not even like I squishy first time I fought it I was like 300hp regen 1.5k beast master man 60% void reduction still evaporated lol. Hardcore nightmare I swear

[wise basalt]

I play wraithlord and it kills this thing in 10 seconds but the problem is I have to stay alive for 10 seconds 😭

[keen barn]

Is that new relic enough for witchfire to be viable

[obtuse quest]

Yes, makes it very consistent.

[keen barn]

Nice, I liked the idea of witchfire but it was annoying last season

[gaunt abyss]

any ideaas?

[pale hawk]

Crimson Gluttony only reduces the health drain of the player, correct? Not the minions?

[obtuse quest]

Correct

[obtuse quest]

Cdr

[wise basalt]

Necro doesn't have any skill I cast on myself to have more defense/armor/health or anything right?

[wide bronze]

which one is most important here

[obtuse quest]

Nope

[warm prawn]

okay so I want to play stygian coal lich, but how do I play it, all the guides tell you is how to put your build together and the gameplay guide is just like 4 lines but doesn't tell you when/how often to use rip blood or anything.

[delicate belfry]

drain life all the time, rip blood for mana

death seal and form at cooldown

[warm prawn]

hmmm

I'm sorely tempted to throw Monument of Protection on instead of mad alchemist's ladle just for the extra tankiness

[obtuse quest]

And lose out probably a very important more modifier?

[warm prawn]

mm true

[obtuse quest]

(Also cast speed boost since you're mass stacking int anyway)

[warm prawn]

oof my resistances are butts

I need to replace my rings I guess.

[vivid monolith]

Don't forget to make use of idols, especially with the nice stats you can get on weavers ones

[slate pond]

Potion stcker wraithlord build 😄 haha

[warm prawn]

of course that's with an empty passive tree <_>

[wise basalt]

Incredible how one single drop transforms "corruption 100 is kinda hard already" to "lol ez"

One single good item...

[vivid monolith]

Multiplicative scaling go brr

[wild eagle]

What skill/ailment is tagged as a curse? Cant find a full list

[dark snow]

Is there an updated build guide chaotic fissure internal shade warlock?

[rapid cloud]

What sorta damage should I be expecting out of a Wraithlord out of curiosity? Miens hitting around 50k a hit. Is 100k+ possible? :o

[keen barn]

LEtools claims the profane orbs that veil can launch are the same as the coag blood that rip blood can send out, and therefore does phys dmg? Is that right>?

[lyric idol]

how are you witchfire chads doing?

[fringe ether]

Guys can someone helps me 1 minute ? I just switched to stygian coal and now i'm not doing any dmg + My abilities are turbo low, can someone just join me to kill some monster and allow me to get 2 or 3 lvl of skill xp ?

[crisp ridge]

is fun

[crisp ridge]

just go to lower lvl area if needes

[lyric idol]

how is it scaling? the build I've found doesn't seem super evolved tbh

[crisp ridge]

i had no issue doing 500corr, didnt go above that

[bold hatch]

Take a point out of the node that increased mana cost

[coral flare]

What builds got a shot at uber abberoth for us acolytes?

[bold hatch]

I played lich without the gloves for awhile and was able to get by until empowered monos

[rotund junco]

Is there any Necromancer build good for after campaign ?

[indigo surge]

Hey all, I am playing a Stygian Coal Reaper... My HP keeps dropping even after I leave reaper form. I cannot figure out why. I'm using the maxroll guide. Care you make a guess?

[rotund junco]

there are no builds on the website :(

[grave flame]

Sassy beat me to it but yeah that

The build takes a bunch of passives that drain your HP

[indigo surge]

oh ok thank you... I have to read more carefully

[lyric idol]

your endurance threshold should keep it in check

[grave plume]

yeah what the hell happened!?

[rotund junco]

idk sad times to be a necro

[indigo surge]

yeah my gear sucks I need to up my endurance by a lot I see

I literally finished my first lvl 100 monolith XD

[lyric idol]

You should be fine, there is so much health leech and defensives with lich once you get your life drain and start ripping blood you gain a ton of life and ward

[indigo surge]

I think I will spec out of that node for now... until I get better gear

[lyric idol]

it's just scary outside of monoliths lol

[crisp ridge]

and u get to the point where doing any damage is a full heal 😂 so the only issue is 100-0 througg reaper

[grave flame]

^ as long as it isn't killing you, which it shouldn't, its basically the build working as intended. As soon as you start hitting mobs your HP bar will shoot up.

[indigo surge]

is there a poison version of Stygian Coal Reaper? Would love to try it

[indigo surge]

what happened to me was that there are some maps with scarce mobs and I just died because I had no life

but thats probably a me issue

need to learn to play

[grave flame]

You mentioned a poison Stygian Coal lich before, right?

[indigo surge]

me? no. Im just wondering how it would work. Im curious about builds 😄

[grave flame]

Yeah if its literally draining you to death then its an issue with your Endurance, I usually hover at around 160ish HP.

[grave flame]

I know, the person I pinged there talked about the Poison build before so I'm asking if they could come by and tell you

[indigo surge]

oh ok that flew right over my head hah

thank you

Ill try to google some see how the difference is. I love this build so much, but running after your next meal before your HP runs out is so stressful XD

[solemn marlin]

hey guys, im playing a soul feast build. got some good items. playing around barbute. got over 800 necro res. but the damage is lacking. i look around and see that im missing a bit of int. like 40. is that really what i need?

[wise basalt]

How do y'all survive corruption as a necro? Do you just never get hit?

Some echoes have 50 enemies throwing knives and fireballs at me and i constantly have to chug potions

[pearl snow]

what else are you doing with soul feast

[solemn marlin]

damage over time, damned and ignite. overload. witchfire. using wheel of torment. got fissure and bolts being auto casti

[pearl snow]

Witchfire from your passive tree or the relic?

Also sounds like you are doing a lot of things at once

[atomic atlas]

@gray spear have you tried apogee tolmat yet? dunno how the lack of pen plays out

[solemn marlin]

everything im doing is just to get more hits for more dots. im not using the relic tho. i probably should. i went with a twisted heart instead

[pearl snow]

If you got relic then you stop scaling Soul Feast so its counter productive with your idea unless you want to use witchfire

You can scale Damned and Ignite DoT thats just fine

[wise basalt]

Damn in one echo were like 200 enemies at the same time and it even made my game lag

How am I supposed to not die there

[pearl snow]

If you are running Fissure and only auto casting the CB you need to make sure Fissure is applying ignite and the damned at a higher volume most likely

ideally if you are running dual dots you reach 100 of both on a ST dummy at least

[solemn marlin]

im getting about 100 of both

im playing just at 100 corruption and trash dies fast enough. but the rares and champs are tough

[pearl snow]

Is your gear scaling DoT?

[solemn marlin]

ish. im trying to figure out what to scale now - https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/MischiefMO/character/SpookyChief

[pearl snow]

If it is then id have to look at your character but unless you are taking minutes per rare / champ it might just be suboptimal which is fine

if you are using Rip Blood for Flat dmg it doesnt scale your DoT ticks

[solemn marlin]

i just leveled it today. so there is room to improve. i was mainly querying the int

[pearl snow]

Int is great ofc

[crisp ridge]

i kinda wànna go back to my witchfire build but im poor 😂

[pearl snow]

Yeah your main dmg is going to be torment and necrotic dot looking from this setup

[solemn marlin]

yea. man i wish torment stacked. it would be great lol

[crisp ridge]

now imagine if witchfire stacked

[pearl snow]

If you wanted to make torment better you are better off ignoring DoT and just stacking Crtit Multi

I dont think immolators nor rip blood are doing much if you are scaling the DoT part

christ you almost hit 1k necro tho

[solemn marlin]

haha yea. i tried for the necro res lol

i could get like 50 more if i get t7 on body and a better blessing i think

[pearl snow]

id say more int and decide on your identity. Splitting between generic DoT for both damned and ignite or Torment wont help too much

[solemn marlin]

thanks

i will try

[radiant helm]

What exactly scales witchfire dmg? Seems like the RF of my dreams

[pearl snow]

Torment locks scale crit multi and flat dmg etc.
But pure Dot wont do much

[lilac veldt]

any build that is strong and not squishy af?

[pearl snow]

Witchfire scales with Fire Dmg Necrotic Dmg and DoT

play sentinel basically. Acolyte will always be on the squishier side

[solemn marlin]

i might pivot to witchfire

[crisp ridge]

i love we're gettin everyone onto eitchfire

scaling witchfire defensibe layers feels baddd tho

[wise basalt]

Why does necro has to be so squishy

[crisp ridge]

coz it has minions to handle dmg/agro?

[thin knot]

oh god, I wish there was a way to stop the animation in the shattered road..

[vivid monolith]

What's the build that vomits the most overall dots onto enemies? Working on a mage necro atm (looking to pivot to wraithlord when I get lucky) and playing ignite heartseekrr makes my brain happy. What sort of stacking potential does warlock have this season? Or Lich, though I know nothing about their builds lol

[wise basalt]

And why does everyone just focus on me?

In some echoes I have to chug potions constantly because 500 enemies attacking me making my game lag lol

[crisp ridge]

idk how to answer that beyond get a better pc

or lower settings ig

[crisp ridge]

everything warlock prob

[vivid monolith]

Is warlock viable with damned ignite and poison all together or is focusing one required? The overloads are pleasing

[wise basalt]

I meant more how do I defend against 500 enemies throwing knives at me ?????

[crisp ridge]

nah u can all

its an actual thing called everything warlock

get all the dots u can including stuff like witchfire and then get dot%

[crisp ridge]

defensive layers

[wise basalt]

Which ones?

[crisp ridge]

that depends on ur build

[vivid monolith]

True true. Is witchfire just from that unique catalyst(?)

[wise basalt]

Wraithlord

[crisp ridge]

nah warlock has a passive to apply it as well

[vivid monolith]

[crisp ridge]

applies on everyone with ignite or damned when u get the relevent overload

[vivid monolith]

Oh perfect

[crisp ridge]

witchfire can also scale with ignite/damned/something i cant remember

[ashen bluff]

Witchfires largest scalin multiplier is damned / ignite chance

your global chance for those 2 added together gets turned into a more multiplier via grimhilde's domain

[high smelt]

wats the fatest way to lvl im 80 and its so slow now

[ashen bluff]

dense content at the highest corruption you can do fast

the shrine + forest setups fairly dense and the high amount of shrines lead to occasional xp shrines

[high smelt]

any way to use weaver tree for more xp

or weaver maps

[crisp ridge]

he jusy mentioned weaver maps lmao

[ashen bluff]

lostwood folly surrounded by false temples, get the xp tome reward on completion chance, generally just blast thru on high corrupt >_>

[high smelt]

sorry i havn't had much time to play thougth those were old ones

ill try that

[ashen bluff]

it's a tad frustrating imo how good the shrine setup is

[high smelt]

why?

[ashen bluff]

I don't find it particularly fun but it just overshadows every other setup so hard cos its completely self sustaining and if you add the trove for chests it prints imprinted items

[high smelt]

i gotta watch a video on all this stuff

[ashen bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itUycPTV7RE

[high smelt]

th

x

[ashen bluff]

Its mostly overshadowin cos of the self sustain and being the only one you can like actually just force

[high smelt]

also i can't wait for them to add a pause button one day, alt tabbing and losing my Lich form 😄

[crisp ridge]

its pretty boring with lich coz it zooms so fast, but seems fun with wutchfire

[ashen bluff]

Arenas looked fun but even fully invested you don't get that many of em <_<

and imo the most interesting one you could like fill an echo with which is the rune prison one you can't even buy at all so its just rng from imprints??

[crisp ridge]

rune prison is funnyyyyy with fully specd mages

fighting them all at once with witchfire was fun

[ashen bluff]

its so fun to do with a fulll mage setup but that setup is so wasted if you don't do rune prison

[fervent basalt]

hey guys

is this item has potential for some kind of minion build

for later?

[crisp ridge]

wonder if u could do a non-arch mage skele build

still make them cryo ofc

[fervent basalt]

i have literally 0 knowledge about minions in LE btw

i laways played melee, randomly hit this with rune of weawing when i dropeed a 17 ww staff

[lyric idol]

Are you doing Cursedboy's build?

[crisp ridge]

nooe

nope*

i havent seen his updated planner but his pre-release was ☠️

[warm prawn]

so if Drain life is speccing out of leeching into just dps where am I getting the health sustain? just gear?

[pearl snow]

Its not improved

Someone linked a vid yesterday

Crab ring gamer

[warm prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[crisp ridge]

makes us witchfire gamers look bad

[pearl snow]

Once I make my guide just inflate it :kekw:

That mace idea btw

Insane

I cant get a good mace to drop but I think it might go crazy

Maybe Dip a little into torment dmg per necro res%

[crisp ridge]

ur welcome, i want royalties hehe

[pearl snow]

I’ll put a footnote.
“Quovss had the idea for maces. Blane him whenever you die”

[crisp ridge]

frfr

[void vigil]

Is Damage while transformed multiplicative or additive? Wondering if it's worth it for Coal Lich

[hardy sapphire]

no idea which of my minions do most of my dmg but i do use 5x fire mages

[crisp ridge]

idk why im pinged there

[pearl snow]

Okay Witchfire Enjoyer make a minion withfire

[brittle nymph]

Hey ya'll, I'm new to the game and I've just checked a few guides online. I noticed people don't get this skill much. Is it working as intended? Or flat Int etc. works better in general?

Thanks!

[wintry flame]

maximum health drain can be bad especially if low life

or going ward with no health sustain

[pearl snow]

Health drain is rough to deal with

[swift wren]

can someone explain why blood of the exile is used on stygian coal lich? do we really need the bleed duration? phys ailment is a dead stat. only other good stat is the int

[crisp ridge]

stats

get hella int

add in ms and its chill

[swift wren]

Ok so it's really cause the int then. didn't realize that would make it bis

[crisp ridge]

like 12 int + a t7 int slam is a lot, also gives you a lot of progress to red rings if using them, ms is good, can also slam more ms or hybrid hp

[crisp ridge]

stygian int scaling is high

[swift wren]

makes sense. I just didn't realize it was that high lol

If only I could get a red ring then lol

[sinful monolith]

I just dropped Sinathia's set. Anyone tried Sinathia's + double cycle of putrescence rings with skeletons, volatile zombies, both curses and dread shade or summon wraith ? Constantly respawning skeletons and volatile zombies, with curses and ward on death, would it work ?

do I need more for stuff to resummon all the time ?

[crisp ridge]

just make the build and vibe check it

[sinful monolith]

I'm wondering how to sustain dread shade when minions constantly die though

[swift wren]

And for stygian, chance damned > ignite > ward/sec, right? We don't channel

[dark snow]

is there any updated build for c fissure internal shade warlock for 1.2 ?

[crisp ridge]

u mean their regen or duration of shade?

either way, usually u grab this

[pearl snow]

Not that I’m aware but go crit and fire dmg %

Fissure and spam infernal

I think youd be aiming to kill all non rares with just shade

[crisp ridge]

u also want spirit release

its pretty important imo

[pearl snow]

That to trigger the Shade node?

Oh its triggered by spirit hits aint it

That makes sense

[sinful monolith]

No I mean if my build has minions dying left and right with me resummoning skeletons + casting bone curse and/or spirit plague, not sure I'd have the time to keep casting dread shade too

[crisp ridge]

yea, fissure releasing less spirits this patch means sometimes shades dont trigger often enough

[pearl snow]

Yeah 20%

its wild how it actually is felt

[crisp ridge]

u need more leech on minions

[pearl snow]

You end up getting like half the CBs you did previously

[sinful monolith]

No no I want them to die

[pearl snow]

For CB node

[crisp ridge]

ur dread shading minions and want them to die?

[pearl snow]

I should update my s2 tldr on ny guide

Brb

[sinful monolith]

well yeah I guess, volatile zombies resummoning + skeletons resummoning

[crisp ridge]

ur build sounds kinda cooked ngl

[sinful monolith]

it's just an idea now

double putrescence + sinathia

[crisp ridge]

if ur running suicide minions u basically go inferna shade not dread shade

[sinful monolith]

oh

then it might just be infernal shade

[dark snow]

i dont have minions o.o

[crisp ridge]

i also dunno why ur going sinathias with suicide minions

what curse are u even applying? just spuirit plague?

[wintry flame]

they want the % resummon chance for skeles

[sinful monolith]

no idea, bone curse too ? idk, sinathia sounds "more resummoning"

[dark snow]

its the one by dreadful

[sinful monolith]

dread shade also resummons volatiles

[crisp ridge]

ohh, i forgot shield has that, i was only thinking of mace coz only one ive used

[wintry flame]

I did some testing on dread shade with doom brand

[dark snow]

i have fissure - shade - bone - and plague

[wintry flame]

idk how it works in a real build I was just testing mechanics of diff things https://streamable.com/0qk910

[sinful monolith]

ohh you're right, infernal shade would autocast through volatile zombies

[marble crypt]

@wintry flame were you testing online or offline with skeleton rogues?

[wintry flame]

online

[sinful monolith]

I would only cast skeletons and spirit plague, volatiles and infernal shades would autocast. Last skill could be sacrifice that would autocast through volatiles. I don't know if that would be enough to sustain Cruelty but it could be fun to try.

[pearl snow]

LET needs to have a better mobile site I wanna cook on the go

[pearl snow]

How much mana does sacrifice cost for you?

[sinful monolith]

I'll have to test this, Cruelty might be too much

[pearl snow]

Thats fair, I havent seen anyone out sustain yet

I got a cruelty with mana and mana regen so I’ve been thinking about using it in something

[sinful monolith]

Dropping Sinathia got me planning a build that won't probably work lol

if enough things die, do I get enough mana ?

[crisp ridge]

i use sinathias 😂

[sinful monolith]

idea is with double putrescence

[high smelt]

other than egg is there another way to reroll unique

[crisp ridge]

turtle

[gray spear]

I have; it's decent, but the damage is significantly less than usurper's mandate.
There are some new idols that give necrotic minion pen which help a lot.
The random summons are kind of cool

[grave plume]

switched from auto loop necro to wraithlord, bad decision

Now i die all the time due to lack of legendaries, autoloop did just fine with LP0 uniques so im going back until I get better gear.

[gray spear]

You don't really need any legendaries other than the helm for wraithlord to work below 1k corruption

[pearl snow]

If it has LP theres a Turtle Woven Echo that gambles the LP amount.
Otherwise it’s just the egg.
You can also reroll the stat rolls by sacrificing another of the same unique or legendary with another woven echo

[high smelt]

oh nice

[grave plume]

for wraithlord am I suposed to resummon wraith upon dread shade cooldown to reset their dmg debuff?

[gray spear]

You don't have to anymore; the shade never expires. You can just leave the wraith alive until it dies

[grave plume]

I know it doesn't expire but the dmg gets so high it dies pretty fast. I probably just need better gear.

[gray spear]

Even without any minion health affixes, it won't die very quickly unless it's 1-shot. The poison and fire shade damage is way lower than it's health leech

[hasty monolith]

How dose torment lock feel in high corruption (500+)

[grave plume]

I probably just need more traversal cdr and haste to minimize time between packs

[grave flame]

Its probably not super amazing but the best item I've managed to make myself so far

[radiant helm]

am i supposed to just spam infernal shade on bosses for dps?

[crisp ridge]

if it procs yea

depends ur setup exactly

[crisp ridge]

its not god tier, but its still really good

[grave flame]

Nemesis egg spat me out an L3 wand, and I had a decent wand for crafting saved up. The chance to chill isn't great but also honestly the best affix that I had there, it does synergize with the spell damage per negative ailment

[brittle nymph]

Thank you everyone who answered this! Building here on this game is fun

[crisp ridge]

build planning is the best part of the game 😂