💀┃acolyte

[pearl snow]

it is

Exulting for CB

techincally

[gaunt hound]

"I woke up at 8am, mother prepare dinner and than I went to school" 😄

[gaunt abyss]

i so want to go back to school, being adult kinda sucks

[manic cargo]

you kinda need all the gear in the guide to make it very good

like the +4 chest

[pearl snow]

I believe when you put down Fissure the Rip Blood Stacks snapshot it. You may wanna Fissure a bit after RIP Blood gets a couple stacks

[gaunt abyss]

ooff, if need this very spasific t7 that is very rare that gonna suck 😦

[pearl snow]

This build just feels all over the place

however if people say it works

then it works

[manic cargo]

all the little things in the build add up

[pearl snow]

I think youll want to get into a cadence of not just spamming Fissure

its like a every 3 seconds kinda thing

ion case you are

Also that ring of yours

isnt doing anything

[gaunt abyss]

ya, i only pop another on if i move on it gone

[manic cargo]

like the 2 30% profane veil duration idols

[pearl snow]

Spell dmg is nice but

it could be better

everything else just looks fine

[gaunt abyss]

im on the hunt for beter rings 😅
both arent very good

[manic cargo]

you need the relic too

[pearl snow]

Honestly im not expecting god tier gear, overall this looks fine

Relic is probably worst offfender

Curse Dmg and Crit multi can go there

plus spare necro res

[gaunt abyss]

dmg over time is no good?

[pearl snow]

it doesnt scale your curses the way you think it does im pretty sure

[manic cargo]

it is but you gota stack crit multi and necrotic resistance over everything

[gusty quarry]

man i have no luck for geting the new relic , used 13 accendacy , i gott all other than that . ( all acolyte relics)

[cedar hill]

Does the Witchfire Warlock build requires the Unique Relic, or it will come online as soon as you get the node in the Warlock's passive tree?

[pearl snow]

Online with node, huge QOL and dmg spike with relic

before the relic you are just a DoT stacker

[pearl snow]

I went to nearly 50 relic drops before finding one

[gaunt abyss]

hmm so relic and and ring to swap as first priorety

[gusty quarry]

Noooo

wait do i farm it btw

effecently

[pearl snow]

relic then ring yeah

[gaunt abyss]

i got it at random very fast tbh XD
the wichfire relic

[pearl snow]

😢

[gaunt abyss]

as a random drop

[pearl snow]

Prophecy

[charred grove]

U playing CoF or Merchant?

[pearl snow]

Relic Unique Drops

[gaunt abyss]

god give nuts to those with no theese

[gusty quarry]

Cof

[charred grove]

cause just use ur CoF to spam loot explosions of what u need is by far fastest way to farm

[pearl snow]

true, lemme know how the build feels once you get in game. Are you in normal monos?

[gusty quarry]

wait how ?

[pearl snow]

with the alterations to cast sequence of course

[charred grove]

so basicly u use the lenses to roll 110% more items from prophecy at higher cost while also having lens for more of the item u need

then u can point farm items with CoF which is by far faster (and cheaper) then merchant guild atm cause of inflation

[gaunt abyss]

got to empowerd, in normal most of the time its went good.
but feel like HUGE dmg spike if im in profane vail. like very big diffrent

[charred grove]

so for example i have now 10 prophecys to kill exiled mages to give rings. so when i kill a exiled mage i get around 20-30 rings

took around 6hours to farm first red ring then imprint it

[cedar hill]

For the Weaver tree, are Relics counted as Jewellery?

[gusty quarry]

wait really?

[gaunt abyss]

i guees so, all accssesory

[pearl snow]

yeah those are the orbs\

scale very well

[cedar hill]

Thank you.

[pearl snow]

you might wanna stay in normal monos for a minute to get a relic swap and go back honestly, but if you arnt dying then oh well

[gaunt abyss]

so this torment build is not really a DoT build?
that why it dident took this node?

[pearl snow]

Torment scales Flat Spell Dmg and only uses DoTs to scale that

so yeah

not worht the points

[gaunt abyss]

i do like 30% of the time, need to keep runing around as im not killing the monsters fast enough

[pearl snow]

I dont think its a DoT since its a curse not an ailment or something yada yada dont quote me

[pearl snow]

yeah stick in normal for a minute plus youll get slightly better exp

levl 100 has a penalty for you

[gaunt abyss]

might be a good qustion for #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs but cant stack like 700+ curses so not very good?

also i wonder how much DMG the torment do and how much CB do

[pearl snow]

i just gotta check last epoch tools

i bet its answerd before

CB is purely proc from your fissure

[cedar hill]

How does Torment work again? It doesn't count as Damage Over Time?

[gaunt abyss]

ya

[pearl snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWkupQ2wufU this guy is already at 550

it can work

[obtuse quest]

It's a Ailment that's a :
Curse
Necrotic
DoT
Spell.
Max stack of 1.

[obtuse quest]

Correct, it's why immolators worked

[pearl snow]

Kzb saves teh day

[pearl snow]

I was an immolator CB player tho

shhh

[charred echo]

Its a solid build out to 500, then I had to take a shield

[obtuse quest]

Then why were you not sure, you fake-

[cedar hill]

I don't get it. Is Torment bad then?

[pearl snow]

I HAVENT PLAYED SINCE 1.0 IM SORRY

Torment is good

not everything needs to be 1k

if it hits 500 its good for 99%

[charred echo]

I haven't seen someone kill abberroth with a warlock yet

But I mean I'm close

2-3 more days probably

[cedar hill]

So, is Torment not as good as Damned, and Ignite because it is limited to only 1 stack max while the other two have no limit on stacks?

[pearl snow]

Not sure yet I dont see other people playing Witchfire or damned ignite that high yet but id say torment might be better

dont need to stack

[charred echo]

torment scales harder, but play what's fun. I was top 10 warlocks last race to world first with bleed man, just play whatever

[pearl snow]

Ill let you know when im there im witchfire until I kill abby prob

[obtuse quest]

Torment doesn't need ramp up, basically.

And has at least 3(!) exclusive more damage mods

[wispy bramble]

is there any good golem builds this season?

[cedar hill]

Thanks. Sorry, my highest level character so far is my level 64 Warpath VK and that build doesn't need brain cells.

[obtuse quest]

Bone nova golem is currently dead to a bug so..

[obtuse quest]

Real, godamn warpath making people lose brain cells-

[pearl snow]

Thats okay Kzb is cosplaying since he isnt on Warlock this season

t r a i t o r

[gaunt abyss]

brain void rot

[obtuse quest]

Don't worry I have a 40~ warlock rn

[chrome mason]

back to farming for a red ring 😔 ✌️

[pearl snow]

good now play that volatile zombie apocalypse build

LOL

[obtuse quest]

Sorry I gotta test a witchfire cook first-

[cedar hill]

FR. Symbol of Hope - Autocast. Holy Aura - Autocast. Devouring Orb - Autocast. Anomaly - casted every now and then. Lunge to close distance, but basically just hold down Warpath 24/7 (I didn't have the +mana cost +damage & area per second node.)

[pearl snow]

I better hurry up and kill abby berfore you catch up then\

[obtuse quest]

No way, it'll take me a while to catch up, I didn't have time to play much

💀

[pearl snow]

dont underestimate my ability to throw

[weak vessel]

does Hubris bleed conversion affect the damage of Witchfire from Grimhilde? like if I stack global bleed chance and convert it to ignite with hubris, would grimhilde use that converted ignite chance into account?

[wispy bramble]

which build is this?

[slate pond]

do you guys snaphot minions? How to do that most effectivelly?

[obtuse quest]

I haven't test that, but if the convert shows up on the sheet, then yes.

[pearl snow]

Kzb and I were cooking something couple days ago

its giga WIP

[weak vessel]

interestingly hubris conversion doesn't show on character sheet

[wispy bramble]

tryin to find a minion build to play but they all look kinda meh atm lol

[weak vessel]

it still shows bleed chance global

[wispy bramble]

rly struggling

[obtuse quest]

Then there's no confirmation if it works until you test it live/raw.

[pearl snow]

test ona dummy

I know that Hubris does not work with CB

because you have to convert from damned to bleed

and cant convert twice

[obtuse quest]

Don't. What we plan to test is probably JANK. It's a volatile zombies build.

[pearl snow]

I tried offline it felt clunky but it has potential

obviously like negative real gear etc

[surreal wasp]

Rip blood uses:

• 0,25 sec delay
• 0,75 sec duration

1 sec is minimum?

[wispy bramble]

volatile zombie build prob more fun than what the other builds look like atm

[novel lotus]

I used to play vol. zombie auto bomb build and loved it. But was low damage so I had to skip to some wraith laser beam build. Its sad that minions are weird still

[obtuse quest]

It being clunky isn't surprising

[obtuse quest]

Cast speed, speeds all that up.

[pearl snow]

yeah 100%

[hardy root]

would love to have a proper army that can just pillage

[pearl snow]

I didnt have cyucle either

[gaunt abyss]

so for relic i need flat cursed dmg and multi crit right?
even if bot are like t3-4 better then what i have now?

[pearl snow]

so extra weird]

[hardy root]

or even a spectre minion like how poe has, that'd be cool

[pearl snow]

you can get cursed % as a relic type

so yeah

[surreal wasp]

Need for stout weawer idol with 30% chance gain 30 ward when hit x4

[gaunt abyss]

im in bois

log in

[pearl snow]

blood spectre exists but not sure its good

[obtuse quest]

Won't be that good unless minion AI gets fixed + infernal shade's bufff gets nerfed.
Or they do a falconer.

[surreal wasp]

Lol

[pearl snow]

im working hel[

[obtuse quest]

That's for when YOU as a player get hit.

[surreal wasp]

Rip blood casts

[hardy root]

nah spectre as in like, you can have whatever monster corpse as your pet

[surreal wasp]

4x idol granted 120 ward when hit

[zinc flower]

How annoying is the abomination shenanigans if I’ve never played it?

[surreal wasp]

Rip blood casts in sec? 2? More,

[weak vessel]

I was a little bummed out when grimhilde wasn't affected by isadora set. realized it wasn't global as it applies to only necrotic

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[hardy root]

well i think we need a minion build that isnt centered arround infernal shade tbh

[pearl snow]

dont we have archmage mages thingy

[obtuse quest]

Technically skeletal mages profane skips infernal since it isn't needed.

[vital hare]

Infernal shade volatile zombies just die in Uber Abby

[frank remnant]

There are any way to generate lots of mana as acolyte to benefit from this defensively?

[obtuse quest]

The 2 set bonus doesn't count?

[vital hare]

I’m swapping to coal lich

[hardy root]

we do have arch mage but idk for me it doesnt feel strong. strongest is wraithlord imo

[weak vessel]

yep. it was sad AF

[obtuse quest]

Rip blood has a node that gives mana back on direct cast.

[obtuse quest]

AWWWW

That would have been FREE

[weak vessel]

only global chance counts. luckily I got a t7 damn chance helmet that I slapped on barbute. currently witchfire doing 120k per tick

[obtuse quest]

Belt helm/glove reforged is decent tbh if it worked.

[frank remnant]

ye but 9mana per cast is ridiculous if you mana stack

[fervent lily]

have a question about coal lich, in video guide there are multiple drain life circles around. but in by playthrough only one circle appear. am I missing something?

[obtuse quest]

Yeah not much else here, acolyte effectively runs on "Spend mana to generate mana"

[lusty wyvern]

so im pretty new to the game, despite having owned it for a long time - ive seen that the meta rn is pretty dominated by paladin etc.

[pearl snow]

what skill are you using to get witchfire

[lusty wyvern]

is there decent acolyte builds?

[royal flint]

I was looking at Abomination build on maxroll, and it says that the build assumes you are level 70; is it only becuse of minimum ammount of skill specialization?

[obtuse quest]

No, if you spam your casts fast enough your old circle would disspear slower, but only one instance is doing it's job.

[lusty wyvern]

like are minions worth playing

[pearl snow]

Dreadlord

[obtuse quest]

Solo minions are still pretty meta.

[weak vessel]

currently my CB spam can get both over loads

[pearl snow]

cxheck required uniques

[pearl snow]

hell yeah, my endgame plan was isadoras for the CB

[weak vessel]

but on bosses or rares I use CB + fissure

[royal flint]

Already did, but there is no unique that requires level 70

[obtuse quest]

Then most likely skill points and passive points.

[zinc flower]

Leveling to 70 is pretty free to be fair, but big skeletal mage works well along the way and gives the same feel as other big minions

[obtuse quest]

Archmage falls off VERY fast once it hits it's wall, comapred to other solo minions.

[zinc flower]

I mean low levels

[obtuse quest]

Oh yeah that's true, which is why they don't ask you to run the other stuff cause that takes more work for almost the same reward

[ebon halo]

so what does more damage this season? abomination build or wraithlord? saw someone say wraithlord build hasn't been nerfed and can climb the highest?

[trail citrus]

is chthonic fissure bugged? i swear sometimes it does no damagee and sometimes it does insane damage

[marble palm]

you have to buff it

for bossing, for maps it should just do its job

[pearl snow]

what are you doing with it

[trail citrus]

it feels like sometimes it just duds out though

im running it with the exploding infernal shade node

[obtuse quest]

Abom, but takes a lot more work.

[obtuse quest]

Then fissure isn't your main damage.

[pearl snow]

infernal shade spamming woudl be

[blazing torrent]

Hello everyone, I've started LE with the new season and I have several questions, for which I didn't always find the answers online (and for some others, answers dated a few years back so maybe aren't up to date). I'm quite aware of how ARPG work (a few hundred hours in PoE, thrice as much on old Diablos and some more less known).
I'm building a Necromancer (currently lvl80) with Rip Blood + Skeletons (Warrior + Ice Mages) + Wraith (the no-decay version of Dread Shade). The idea is splashing enemies with Rip Blood to proc Blood Infusion and my minions do the killing. I don't want to check online guides and such, I'd like to discover the game by myself.

Here are my questions:

• how much meters is "nearby enemies"? I have the Advent of the Erased boots which states X% chance to gain haste for 3sec when a nearby enemy dies"
• is Blood Infusion active if I do a Blood Splatter near my mages without touching an enemy? (I see no visual indicators on my mages when trying)
• how would Pernicious Act (Dread Shade) works with Lone Watcher (no decay of the shade)?
• is there a way to reset the Weave bonuses on a item (no idols)?

[trail citrus]

its not but it feels like the exploding infernal shade damage sometimes doesnt increase the fissure frequency?

[obtuse quest]

The frequency increase has a cap of 4 pops.

[trail citrus]

yea i know. could it be bugged sometimes?

[pearl snow]

I believe Nearby should be similar to PoE, but if you check the Arena Dummy's I think their little circle platform is the "nearby" radisu.
Weaver's Will cannot be reset, gotta find a new item.

[marble palm]

oh I do not even use infernal shade, running torment, not sure bud sorry

[pearl snow]

I doubt its bugged

[marble palm]

lock feels good though, mad fun class, loved it last cycle

[obtuse quest]

1. Nearby is like 5 meters? Yeah the arena dummy is the easier indicator.
2. Yes, the visual is VERY hard to see, it's blood bones moving around the minion.
3. Both nodes works. The minion now doesn't take increased damage but takes everlasting poison.
4. No.

[obtuse quest]

Not to my usage so far

[blazing torrent]

Thanks both for the answers! Didn't know about the dummy, will check that

[frank remnant]

this node "replace" the mana cost from channelling ?

[obtuse quest]

It's in addition iirc.

[frank remnant]

sad

This spell drain so much mana

[trail citrus]

ah i think it actually might be bugged. mentioned here https://youtu.be/4rlL-VPdzKA?si=pGfBoRgxpciwlV5-&t=420

[obtuse quest]

Oh it's bugged if you replace a old one, but if there's 0 the bug doesn't happen.

[trail citrus]

yea sometimes ill just do 0 damage as im mapping

[blazing torrent]

Also, is there any way to buy Rune of Shatter massively?

[obtuse quest]

The shop. If you're at the end game, that shop refreshes every echo you do.

[blazing torrent]

Yeah I am, it's just I've like to buy like 50 of them and be done for some time

Noted though!

[vital hare]

lizard killed with "endgame setup" on offline

most builds will need to avoid the balls instead of facetanking it...

Sentinel is just overtuned defensively

[compact sorrel]

where is this execute node? cant find it in transplant tree

[weak vessel]

@obtuse quest @pearl snow added 76% global bleed chance from tree and it didn't affect witchfire with hubris on. more sad

[obtuse quest]

Ah, my tech

Down the drain before I could test it

[weak vessel]

yeah it's a bit of RIP to scaling

not many more ways to get get damned chance

[obtuse quest]

Ehh we lose out on new tech at best, witchfire already was pretty decent before this patch.

it just had a consistency issue.

The relic fixes that.

[weak vessel]

I mean yeah the relic is kinda huge and it gives really good map clear

[pearl snow]

ah that makes sense unluck

at least ignite is easy to get

just not as crazy as bleed

[weak vessel]

global ignite on wand and amulet. where else do I get more?

t7 damned on helmet is for sure the way to go. I would go for a t7 damned body + t6 fissure if I ever manage to get one. but idk which is worth more

[autumn elbow]

Idols

Maybe blessings

[obtuse quest]

1x2 idol has ignite on hit.

[weak vessel]

wait ignite on idols. I may have missed that. currently running double 80% dot idols

I have to farm rayah for a good roll on ignite from blessing once I finish my harbingers

[obtuse quest]

Calamity, firestarters...

[weak vessel]

idk about calamity. barbute defensively is really strong

[obtuse quest]

Okay that's fair, was just spitting out items

[pearl snow]

I dunno this my endgame idea atm

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApwZnJJo

[obtuse quest]

I do think firestarter's good tho, since it also comes with that %more modifier

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (10) / Warlock (83)

General:

▸ Health: 1,547, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 178.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 312%, Regen: 235/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 11 Dex / 76 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 159% / 101% / 112% / 104% / 378% / 125%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 309
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,313)
▸ Block Chance: 27%, Mitigation: 39% (1,208)

Used skills:

Wandering Spirits / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chaos Bolts / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

but its surrounding that new ring

[weak vessel]

yeah I am trying to find a 4lp fire starter and mana cost reduction scepter with dot

[pearl snow]

I think before that you use fissure 10%

100% im using it now

a bit defensive maybe

[weak vessel]

isadora unfortunately doesn't work with witchfire

[pearl snow]

yeah its mainly for everything in between

[weak vessel]

I was using this earlier and then I realised the sad part

[pearl snow]

it is sad

more of a min maxy thing for total dps outside witchfire

not sure if worth

[weak vessel]

yeah makes sense

[pearl snow]

otherwise i think communion of the erased or chains could be there

[weak vessel]

I was actually switching over to ignite stacking with hubris hoping it would affect witchfire damage

and it would drastically improve ward gen

[pearl snow]

yeah thats basically been my idea

since you can level easy with CB damned ignite too

[weak vessel]

maybe hubris is still worth it for the sheer ward gen with ignite from plague and rip blood

[obtuse quest]

Yours is super defensive compared to my idea lmao

[pearl snow]

im gunna write a guide so

[obtuse quest]

o7

[pearl snow]

defensive may be a bit better

kek

[obtuse quest]

Fair

[pearl snow]

I agree though

cradle and barbute

Ashes kinda goes crazy

I think its giving my current toon 50 ignite dps

alone

This is also my dont use fissure setup lol

no one doesnt use fissure

[obtuse quest]

Oh you're right I didn't even notice

LOL

[weak vessel]

I am gonna add the ignite idol on my filter. damn I missed that affix completelyt

[pearl snow]

I got a wild barbute onlikne rn

[obtuse quest]

I don't have barbute OR cycle OR a good WF relic yuet

[pearl snow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/tevonsonte/character/TevonGetsWhipped

look at that boy THIC

[obtuse quest]

That's a choice of a name

[pearl snow]

LOL

I had planned to do Fire Whip

completely missed the Witchfire relic in notes

[weak vessel]

do you think the cradle is just better than opulent focus?

[pearl snow]

defensively

yeah

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br62y0OB
Current cook

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (24) / Warlock (69)

General:

▸ Health: 1,405, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 145.51, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 140%, Regen: 81/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 13 Dex / 39 Int / 3 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 148% / 10% / 10% / 36% / 10% / 243% / 52%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 281
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (414)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Chaos Bolts / Infernal Shade / Summon Volatile Zombie / Bone Curse

[pearl snow]

thats all its really there for

homie

is that

VOLATILE

[obtuse quest]

AS A VEHICLE

I should make it pure fire tbh

[pearl snow]

penance neck?

over decrip

or what

[obtuse quest]

I'm running the decrep one no?

[weak vessel]

I am still looking for decrep ammy

[pearl snow]

whats the benefit

[short elk]

im tryin to build a minion necro, why is this so painful? :/ zoo minions just dont scale into higher corruption

[pearl snow]

i am confusion

[weak vessel]

that would be a massive boost

15% more

[pearl snow]

oh curse self

[obtuse quest]

Decrep makes them take 15% more dot damage as the effect.

[obtuse quest]

No dread shade=halved dps

[pearl snow]

mmmm interesting

might be better than a normal ass neck

[obtuse quest]

It's also a curse for everything else so-

Still debating if Bone curse should be aura or just big aoe cast it tbh

[pearl snow]

you just got 1 homie steve the zombie

throwing himself at everything

lol

I love that

[pearl snow]

I like the aoe and auto cast lol

[obtuse quest]

Hey, he helps me light automate infernal.

[short elk]

i have dread shade. the issue is minion survivability. they die to aoe

[pearl snow]

with cb

[obtuse quest]

Oh yeah that too.

[misty ridge]

yo question guys, volatile reversal is supposed to only allow u go back to the original position if u use it within 3 seconds right

[obtuse quest]

EH I FORGOT, I AM RUNNING CB

[short elk]

normal monos = chill, empowered monos at 100c = minions biting the dust

[obtuse quest]

I CAN JUST MAKE IT BIG AOE

[obtuse quest]

We cook undead here sir. Kinda wrong channel

[misty ridge]

ah

:damn

[obtuse quest]

[misty ridge]

missclicked

[obtuse quest]

No issue

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A88xVxyA
Slight skill tweaks

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (24) / Warlock (69)

General:

▸ Health: 1,405, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 145.51, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 140%, Regen: 81/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 13 Dex / 39 Int / 3 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 148% / 10% / 10% / 36% / 10% / 243% / 52%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 281
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (414)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Chaos Bolts / Infernal Shade / Summon Volatile Zombie / Bone Curse

[pearl snow]

okay hear me out

apocalypse

[obtuse quest]

We can probably run like 2 of the overload idols

[pearl snow]

drop everything

[obtuse quest]

You ass that's a seperate cook

[pearl snow]

I like burning the restaurant

yeah flammable nice

is shade crit your main spammer then

feels non DoT - y

I guess it does do a better job though

that version is more interesting than mine for sure lmao

holy fire trail applies ignite

wow reading is crazy

[obtuse quest]

It's used for mass explosions for ignite, while fissure and CB cover damned

[obtuse quest]

YES

THANK YOU

Bone curse for itself and decrepify for the curse bonuses. (and kill threshold if that happens)

[pearl snow]

I wonder the math on More DoT taken vs increased DoT

since base neck is just increase

[obtuse quest]

i know firestarter is better than a sinathia solarum hammer reforged-

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BElpv6eQ

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (34) / Lich (15) / Warlock (44)

General:

▸ Health: 1,190, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 150.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 171%, Regen: 80/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 11 Dex / 48 Int / 1 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 35% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 240% / 35%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 238
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (291)

Used skills:

Summon Volatile Zombie / Profane Veil / Bone Curse / Chaos Bolts

[high smelt]

okay i swapped to Crit Infernal Shade lich, i'm doing like negative dps now 😄

Does Lich have no good early end game builds?

[pearl snow]

wait are those additive

the rings

or seperate procs

[obtuse quest]

Two rings= two zombies

[charred oriole]

I'm struggling doing Empowered Monos with Harvest rn but it can definitely work with more investment.
Plus it's fun af.

[obtuse quest]

Harvest, Spirit Plague with DS support for leveling.. err...

[high smelt]

i might go back to poe2 lol

[obtuse quest]

Yeah lich is kinda ass when warlock and necro exist

[high smelt]

Was just having a better time in that game tbh

[obtuse quest]

This is the acolyte life

[charred oriole]

Lich definitely needs a lil love from the devs

[high smelt]

im lvl 66 atm

i bought a few peices of gear from the guide

and its like, 0 dmg

[pearl snow]

maybe my version drops for firestart

[high smelt]

i see why almost everyoen is sentinel now

[pearl snow]

ooooooo

thtas big

[pearl snow]

which guide

[high smelt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYXMWEwB

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,728, Regen: 14.4/s
▸ Mana: 169.69, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 170%, Regen: 15/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 9 Dex / 78 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 68% / 80% / 124% / 118% / 84% / 116% / 38%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 746
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,655)

Used skills:

Summon Volatile Zombie / Reaper Form / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Death Seal

This build has a guide:

Ante's LE Infernal Shade Zombie Spam Lich Build Guide Showcase by Dr3adful

[high smelt]

MG is down now so i can't get good wand or offhand but

i dunno

[pearl snow]

whats ur character

[high smelt]

its feeling real bad

lvl 66 lich

[obtuse quest]

Iirc that's the first thing that was tested when the ring came out

So it's common knowledge

[pearl snow]

Im just a cb enjoyer okay

I was limit testing Flame Whip and ignored nearly everything else on release

im brainrotted

[high smelt]

when MG comes back up ill try some more gear

[pearl snow]

Well I gotta see your toon to point out any issues but yeah I think this setup as lich needed some gear to really startup

you are 66 aftetrall

[high smelt]

so which build should I go instead

[gritty cargo]

Was it good?

[obtuse quest]

Sounds like me with AoD

[pearl snow]

Not in the slightest was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy bad

could barely hold its own in 200 corruption

which I guess isnt awful

[obtuse quest]

Any comment on it's damage buff lmao

[pearl snow]

but still

[gritty cargo]

Damn

[pearl snow]

Its big, Im hoping to get it to go 500

the base dmg tripled

which is WILD

and is unchanged with the fissure frequency nerfs

so after I kill abby ill be going crazy

[high smelt]

a totem shaman i tried last year did more dmg than this build

[pearl snow]

Im prepping

[high smelt]

im out of gold to change specailzations so it has to be lich

[pearl snow]

can you link ur toon

via let

[obtuse quest]

Oh jesus

[pearl snow]

thats the graveyard lmao

still cant get a +4 with good affixes

sadge

unfortunately going on a work trip tomorrow at 3 so Ill be at a standstill until monday. Was hoping to start flame whip monday

[hasty monolith]

did they buff flame whip?

[obtuse quest]

Boosted damage effectiveness.

[hasty monolith]

interesting

[hasty monolith]

Im hoping that there is good meta warlock build to play

[obtuse quest]

Technically there's torment and witchfire

[hasty monolith]

I havent found any witchfire builds

[obtuse quest]

https://youtu.be/ag0qlicMWMs

[hasty monolith]

tyty, do you know what corruption it can push to?

[obtuse quest]

Not sure tbh

[pearl snow]

Witchfire is already at 400 at the least

[obtuse quest]

Idk witchfire's hard cap with the new relic

[rustic jackal]

I've killed regular Aberroth, and farm 400 corruption on a super early build. Feels too far off of Uber Abby + 1000 Corruption though.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/brewtiful/character/Brian_Witchfire

[grand cedar]

is there any way to actually make lich reaper form useable as single target dps

while keeping the ad clear

[high smelt]

aww shit wrongwarp requires lvl 83 😦

[obtuse quest]

Using the form itself?

[grand cedar]

yeah like for its passive buffs and 2nd health bar and stuff

[obtuse quest]

You'll probably use something like harvest or marrow shards to boss

[wide bronze]

do I need to finish all to unlock empowered?

[obtuse quest]

The 3 lv 90s at the top.

Reaper form is a buff skill through and through.

[wide bronze]

okiii

[high smelt]

"increased fire damage" works towards the Infernal shade that blows up on my Minoin right?

[obtuse quest]

I have so many questions and I don't know where to start.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[grand cedar]

i see, is there a solid build guild for that one?

[rustic jackal]

Haha, that's fair. I just wanted to rush to aberroth.

[high smelt]

thx. MG is finally up and i can buy stuff for this build now

[compact sorrel]

for wraithlord - blight of lachesis or usurper mandate with 2 LP?

[obtuse quest]

Harvest is a known build but there's no 1.2 guide iirc

Marrow shards work but isn't played because it's jank as heck

[obtuse quest]

No comment, because idk the powerlv of blight tbh

[grand cedar]

damn, what about chaos bolts?

[obtuse quest]

Kinda iffy for hit damage (there's that double damage node tho), and if you wana do DoT you just warlock it tbf

[pearl snow]

Same

[grand cedar]

yeah im running warlock rn just want to use the reaper skill to see if its fun too

[obtuse quest]

Lich is basically: I have two health bars and the bar is a rollercoaster.

[grand cedar]

damn

[obtuse quest]

Also "I get more damage but if I stop doing damage I'll die"

[high smelt]

for twisted heart do I want more or less of that first affix, converted to ward

5-8 not sure which is better

[bold hatch]

Lich is the most fun I’ve had in this game 😆

Zipping around at 140 move speed trying to kill everything before I self destruct

[hasty monolith]

nice

[flat sentinel]

can anyone whos in MG tell me if theres any available for sale before i leave CoF?

Please

[gaunt abyss]

do the dummy record dmg somehow?

[pure vessel]

has someone tried wraithlord already? is it viable?

[blazing torrent]

Is there any way to modify a blessing later ingame? (my cat misclicked and I have one totally useless...)

[gaunt abyss]

ya, anytime you kill the boss you get to pick

[thorn kernel]

Hey, anyone has a link for this build everyone seems to use ?

[old hull]

Not aside from just taking damage. Technically you can measure your dps by how long it takes you to kill the dummy, but for most builds that takes a very long time.

[pure vessel]

this looks like a torment warlock?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide

[gaunt abyss]

dosent use CB on the bar

[crisp ridge]

because a guide provides a generic filter that you refine and tighten as youre needs get smaller.

If my only upgrade for gloves is a specific t7 on a specific base, then yea thats what i want my loot filter to show

its called do the work urself and stop being lazy

[craggy flax]

how do you make use of the Snowblind Helm?

[drifting temple]

they do not use it also. its their skills not the bar. cb is casted by fissure

[pure vessel]

you dont need CB on the bar to cast them really

[rustic jackal]

I currently dont! I have 5 firestarters I'm rolling to get chance on hit for it though.

I just swapped to this helm and boots. I was running 3pc Isadora's just 45 minutes before servers went offline.

but I got a lot of upgrades that I have to slam in the LP on.

My ring is 2LP, my helm is 3LP, I have 5 firestarters that are all 2 LP.

[woeful cedar]

So has anyone find a decent minion zoo build yet?

[high smelt]

ok i got some gear from AH, damn Infernal shade lich is kinda nuts

[autumn elbow]

Glad you didnt give up on the game, congrats

[high smelt]

yeah i thought MG was gonna be down for days someone told me that 😄 guess i was Trolled

[rare meadow]

Are there any cool acolyte builds for farming high corruption at high speeds? Getting tired of sentinel

[primal remnant]

Hi ! I'm trying skele knights mainly for fun, and I wonder - do their hungering souls ability uses the hungering souls skill tree ?

[fast belfry]

im running necromancer, the campaign is just me walking past mobs and my guys insta killing them. where should i expect to be challenged?

[crisp ridge]

emp monos is when the challenge begins

maybe a bit earlier for poor builds

[twin parcel]

anyone know if this is rare

ive just started playing a day ago...

[crisp ridge]

not rare

[wise basalt]

What's currently a fun and EASY to play necro build?

Easy = don't have to constantly spam cooldown skills

[crisp ridge]

most necro ones just use a big minion, apply shades, than transplant around

[wise basalt]

I use wraithlord atm and it's very strong but I die very fast

[crisp ridge]

sounds like u need defensive layers

[wise basalt]

And what kind?

I try to farm the body armor and play low life but it's so rare

And never drops

[rare meadow]

Which one?

[gaunt abyss]

Maxroll then, its the only guide for it

[wise basalt]

Exsanguinous

My lord one hits everything and kills bosses super fast at corruption 100 but yeah some attacks one hit me and I have to chug potions constantly it's honestly absolutely not fun

[crisp ridge]

stacking lowlife can be solid

[autumn elbow]

Is it rarer than titan heart?

[wise basalt]

Yeah I have titan heart like 5 times now

[crisp ridge]

ur defences are really bad than, unspec some dmg and focus on defence

[wise basalt]

Yeah I will probably have to do that I'm a glass cannon

[gaunt abyss]

There is also boots for low life.

[crisp ridge]

cap ur res's, get csa/crit reduc, get hp/armour, get ward, etc.

[crisp ridge]

and gloves

[wise basalt]

Yeah I have nothing good just a bunch of shitty items I don't need

[crisp ridge]

one of my builds uses all 3

[gaunt abyss]

Ya, but if you play minion there is a unique gloves that give the minion youre glove sts

[crisp ridge]

so? he doesnt have dmg problems atm. getting more lowlife can be a good option

[rare meadow]

Huh..got a 3lp exsang long before I got my 3lp titanheart

How high can wraithlord push with non-insane but good gear?

[wise basalt]

If I wouldn't die constantly probably 300+ easily, it doesn't die a single time and one hits everything and every boss takes like less than 10 seconds

I just wish I had the body armor so I can play with ward and stop dying

[gaunt abyss]

it does have low drop rate

can use rune of ascended to try and get

[wise basalt]

I tried 15 times

[high smelt]

Why is crit shade infernal lich taking this node,

I thought its fire dmg

[crisp ridge]

zombie dmg

[high smelt]

oh i didn't know their dmg was a big portion

[vital hare]

No it’s just extra dmg

20 flat is a lot

[crisp ridge]

zombie isnt a lot, but its free

[wise basalt]

Is there a build I can farm corruption 100 with without having all those cool items I need or do I just die fast without the ward abusing?

Everyone uses ward it seems

[warped kraken]

Please Help guys! I equipped Stygian Coal offhand... but my Drain life stays the same, just channeling.... Played the build once before but died (hc)... is this a bugg? is it possible to do something wrong? Like I trried anything to try make the skill work like it should

[crisp ridge]

basically all builds that dont require a unique to work

[wise basalt]

And what builds xD

[rare meadow]

Probably whatever maxroll has as the acolyte leveling build?

[wise basalt]

I can only find builds for people who played 500 hours

[crisp ridge]

100 corr can be farmed by any build with some thought in it

[knotty cave]

Any lich crit builds rn?

[wise basalt]

Yeah if you have the shitty t shirt that gives you ward lol

[crisp ridge]

uh, no

also shroud of obscurity exists and is super common

[sinful monolith]

How do minions benefit from intelligence ? I see the "intelligence" tag on minion skills but can't see more and I just got a blood of the exile boots (compared to my measly +25% minion damage boots)

[crisp ridge]

hold alt, is like 4% dmg

[dull aspen]

can acolyte dual wield 1h swords?

[strange kiln]

Decided to skip this season because I only play acolyte and they are up to get updated for 1.3.

[sinful monolith]

oh thanks ! then the unique is better

[wise basalt]

Yeah but not as good and I still need other stuff that increases ward

I have this atleast but the amount of ward I get is laughable

[crisp ridge]

thats how builds work

u get compunding effects that synergise

u also dont have to go a ward build

[gritty cargo]

has anyone gone far with a physical damage warlock

[wise basalt]

Damn should've rolled another class and waited for the season 3 changes 😭

[strange kiln]

Yeah 1.2 is pretty boring for acolyte

[gritty cargo]

what are you dying to

I was face tanking everything on my warlock

[strange kiln]

It’s just more of the same from the last season. They are getting an update next season

[gritty cargo]

I switched to rogue to change things up, but the way I want to play rogue kinda requires two t7-throwing damage reduce mana cost rings, and until I get them its kinda unplayabe the way I built it. So now Ive come back to acolyte

ive been thinking of spec a physical-fissure, physical-infernal shade, phyiscal-profane veil, physical-bone curse, physical-rip blood

[wise basalt]

At corruption 100 there is some stuff that one hits me and when several enemies are aggroing me I have to chug potions constantly

Damage is no problem, wraithlord kills everything

Every build on this planet runs around with like 7000+ ward and I sadly don't have the shitty t-shirt

I'm seriously considering just rolling another class for this season

[gritty cargo]

dont need the t-shirt rn

uh link build

[wise basalt]

No I will try another build and if I'm not happy then I will switch class

[gritty cargo]

you probably just are missing 1 little thing tho

cause warlock is tanky

[wise basalt]

I don't play warlock

[crisp ridge]

u dont need ward to survive...

[pearl snow]

Me need ward

[wise basalt]

Sadly I'm too bad

[crisp ridge]

most necros will prefer pale ox over exssng

[wise basalt]

I loaded my old character and I realized how much they nerfed everything about the build I played it's unreal

I definitely need to switch to something else lol

Season 1

10k+ ward

Wraithlord does like 100k+ damage

Now season 2 with the same, old character:

4k ward

Lord does 10k damage lmfao

[crisp ridge]

broken things getting nerfed? no way!

[wintry flame]

posted my skele rogue build if y'all wanna see my snapshot process and such #🎥┃video-shoutout message

[wise basalt]

I'm still sad about it, guess that's the end for brainless wraithlord gameplay 😩

[wintry flame]

if you don't mind snapshotting then you can have a brainless mono experience 🙂

until something ruins your snapshot

[wise basalt]

Yeah I've read about the word, what exactly is this?

[wintry flame]

lmaoooo

check the video if you wanna see the process and outcome

[wise basalt]

But what even does this do?

Can I buff my defence with "snapshotting"?

Because I don't need more damage

[wintry flame]

yeah you can because you don't need to wear minion gear so you can wear all defensive gear

[wise basalt]

Lol

[wintry flame]

😄

[crisp ridge]

yes u can basically

[wise basalt]

Well I played wraithlord for like 50 hours in s1 and now again since like 10+ hours

I think it's time to make something else, I think I'm getting bored with it anyway lol

[crisp ridge]

but based on this conplaining its very obvious ur build/gear is just bad tbh

[wise basalt]

Yeah I wish I could just buy better gear with real life money lol

Every build on maxroll uses snapshotting my god...

I don't have time for this

[crisp ridge]

snapshotting is entirely optionak

[wise basalt]

I know but will the builds still be good without this?

I can't wait for S3 Changes to this class lol, why can't minion army be super strong

[pearl snow]

Theyll still be good

The snapshotting makes things easier sure, but unless you are pushing to 1k corruption I doubt itll be that bad

[wise basalt]

Tomorrow I will completely reskill and try the Abomination build

[oak lion]

Accursed seer skill from warlock tree that cleanses ailments, how does it works with ward and items that lowers current health like Exsanguinious?

[pearl snow]

It cleanses ailments not your ward

[crisp ridge]

they might not even get much stronger, its mainly for lich

[wintry flame]

if you want to do high corruption and/or uber you need to snapshot

for most minion builds

[crisp ridge]

yea but most wont uber

[wise basalt]

But isn't that more like a bug or something that we abuse ?

[wintry flame]

nope

[crisp ridge]

u can easily do 500corr and normal without snapshottinf

[pearl snow]

Its abuse of mechanics yeah

But not a bug atm

[wintry flame]

it's in the game design and intentional until they fix it

[oak lion]

No i ask if it cleanses everything every 5s or you need to get direct damage on health

[wise basalt]

Why should it be fixed if it's intentional?

[wintry flame]

I want to highlight the issue and have it fixed tbh

[wintry flame]

because it forces palyers who want to be competitive to utilize it and it's bad/a pain

[pearl snow]

If its the dmg leaves you below 35% thing. I think youd need to take a hit but that shouldnt be a problem. Can test in arena or something

[oak lion]

Dont want to waste time leveling acolyte

[wise basalt]

Well I don't need to reach super high corruption I'm just happy when I stop dying at 100 lol

[pearl snow]

Cntrl F the discord im sure it was properly answered somewhere

[wintry flame]

then it's not a problem for you

[dull aspen]

While you have both Ignite Overload and Damned Overload, enemies within 10 meters are inflicted with Witchfire every second
Q: Can anyone tell me what Ignite Overload and Damned Overload means?

[oak lion]

Oh good idea

[wintry flame]

people who make content or compete in some manner will always be compared to those snapshotting, so it's baaad for that

[wintry flame]

press alt while hovering nodes that mention it

[pearl snow]

From the warlock skill tree. It procs based off the Damned / Ignite DoT being present nearby on enemies

[gritty cargo]

you can read the effects in the middle of the end of the warlock passive tree

[haughty sedge]

I finally got a Death's Embrace so I respecced my tree a bit so I can slot them.

[crisp ridge]

2 nodes in warlock tree

casting a fire skill eith 25+ ignites around u gives ig ite overload

same for necro but 20 damned

[wise basalt]

Does anyone play the Abomination build here without snapshotting

[high smelt]

i dont think ther eis one because snapshotting will always just improve upon whatever the abom build is

[haughty sedge]

Some people don't want to do snapshotting.

Of course there's people who play that.

Tbf though, I don't think it's any different from the one that snapshots, just without the snapshotting.

[slender haven]

Wraith lord no good now? Damn I was trying to make one for my first ever LE toon

[crisp ridge]

its fine

hes just coping

[gleaming elbow]

meh just play what you like

[arctic lodge]

Hi guys, im doing stygian coal lich build from maxroll, but item filter little bit overwhelming. Anyone share with me good itemfilter for this build?

[bold hatch]

Horrific Vessels node in the zombie tree

[pearl snow]

Whats wrong with the item filter they provided exactly?

just complex and not explained?

[arctic lodge]

Actually both, shows all builds idols and useless stats for big blue colours for my build

i look itemfilter guide on maxrol then i realize they shared same lootfilter for all builds. But i cant see good items for my build i think pretty old

[haughty sedge]

You know, I never really considered this, but now that I have one, this is actually really good for a Lich.

[pearl snow]

I dont play your build so my only recommendations are build it yourself or modify the current one and remove the affixes you think are useless

I dont hafve another styg filter on hand

would have to find another guide

prob on youtube

[arctic lodge]

Okay thanks for help i will search another guide

[pearl snow]

Last Epoch Tools has a filter section but youll be yolo-ing some random filter that may not be good

[crisp ridge]

why are people so against modifying their own filters 🤦‍♂️

[pearl snow]

Filters are fairly daunting for people especially given the fact you can hide good items yada yada

[gleaming elbow]

tkaes a while to edit

[crisp ridge]

nit really, my filter is no where optimized but its legit just

base type: belt
affix: all the acceptable affixs for my belt
tier: maybe specify a tier for end game

i just do that fir every slot.

ontop of a hide all etc.

[pearl snow]

the filter I recommend to make is always like a 15-20min max affair

my current filter though. HOURS lmao

[crisp ridge]

yea but u dont have to do that

just create a simple one like mine and adjust the affixs as u progress throgh the game.

its also replicable for every class/build

[pearl snow]

oh yeah 100%

[crisp ridge]

its also a million times better than some generic filter off maxroll and its better than coming into discords to ask fir other peoples filters for your build

not you specifically

[pearl snow]

yeah

gear is wildly varied even among the same builds

[crisp ridge]

exactly, the loot filter is to show what you need.

like if i have a god tier belt, my rewuirements of what is shown on belts are gunna be diff to lil timmy who is fresh inti emps

[tidal idol]

We do a little prophecy stacking ( I got bored of marina's lost soul not dropping )

Now my aco has 4 marina's, two with LP, good.

[pearl snow]

hell yeah lmao

[gleaming elbow]

thats lots of blood

[tidal idol]

3 2LP mad ladles too.

[atomic atlas]

is exsang always better for wraithlord? vs pale ox or wall of nothing ?

[crisp ridge]

no

just depends if lowlife or not, pale ox and exsang are both very good

im not a fan of wall of nothing personally

[tidal idol]

Wall of nothing is 100% all in on ward. Exsang has the bonus of giving you bleed immunity, and a significant boost in attack and cast speed after you used a potion.

[gritty cargo]

is there a really good example of a super strict filter, im trying to make a super strict one right now and I dont know if im going to play sentinal in the future and dont know what class specific sentinal things I should be looking for

[tidal idol]

When you use a potion, it means you're in a dangerou situation. This is usually when you need your spells to be at their fastest so you can leech more and faster. I prefer exsang over wall for that reason.

[pearl snow]

might be better to ask in the sentinel thread

[crisp ridge]

i just find exsang with boots and gloves is a rly good combo for survivability over wall of nothing

[atomic atlas]

wall makes sense for very high corr survivability doesnt matter. 15% chance and all

[tidal idol]

I got annoyed the boots I want on my acolyte weren't dropping so made some temporary ones to fill the slot 🙂

Who wants rescaps 👀

[crisp ridge]

oh man, i forgot how bad my resistances were lmao

[high smelt]

how much weaver tree poitns do we get total

[pearl snow]

50 I think?

[crisp ridge]

says in game

[delicate belfry]

Is the volatile zombie / shade lich outclassing stygian?

[high smelt]

oh wow

im pretty behind on tha ttree gotta get grinding

[tropic bobcat]

Playing stygian coal... not a bad imprint

[high smelt]

does imprinting those make same affixes drop?

[pearl snow]

Similar

and the tier matters a bit apparently

itll try its best to drop similar items tiers randomized etc.

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah just hoping to drop more t7 drain life bases

to slam it in an LP unique

[craggy flax]

anyone do any non fissure witchfire builds?

[crisp ridge]

kinda?

i was using CB to apply both overloads

[pearl snow]

im cooking

atm

[crisp ridge]

fissure was just extra dmg for bosses

[pearl snow]

You can sub Fissure for Wandering Spirits

if you want

Other than that you really need a spell that helps with applying Damned

Chaos Bolts or Infernal Shade are your ignite sources mainly

[craggy flax]

ghostflame any good?

[crisp ridge]

not really coz u need double cast, i tried to cook with it but its not amazing

[pearl snow]

if you really wanted to run with it

youd probably need some channeling things, cast speed. Maybe the detached tracker skull

Or the full circle

[crisp ridge]

problem is u need to cast ghostlfame -> get ur stacks -> cancel and cast it again

it can be used as mobiltiy tho

[craggy flax]

just wanted to do something different than the witchfire build cursedboy did the guide for

[pearl snow]

if you wanna ghostflame just rock it

itll be kinda hard like Quo said

[crisp ridge]

its too hard to get enough mana imo

[pearl snow]

but I could see a version that has high mana and just runs the movement ablity one

yeah 100%

[crisp ridge]

i alos feel liked youd still use fissue(or spirits as you said)

[pearl snow]

youd need to dedicate your weapon prefix to mana as ward too. possibly other items

Hungering Souls could work I guess

but its rough outside CB applications or fissure use

[crisp ridge]

anythign other than CB seems kinda bad imo

u can use othr skills to help, but CB is ur main

like fissue applies the 2 stacks u want in different ways so it gets rly weird, but CB with enough ignite/damned chance is just easy

[craggy flax]

thank you, will look at a more cb focused build

[crisp ridge]

here is my old planner, hasnt been updated but gives the idea

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNZjyXyo

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 86

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (11) / Warlock (82)

General:

▸ Health: 2,500, Regen: 26.04/s
▸ Mana: 95.44, Regen: 8.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 90%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 25 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 106% / 80% / 120% / 79% / 100% / 112% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 500
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (145)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,557)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Spirit Plague / Profane Veil / Chaos Bolts / Transplant

[pearl snow]

There were also 3 other planners linked earlier today

me Kzb and someone else

all similar ideas slightly diffy

[crisp ridge]

yea mine was some degen build purely for witchfire

[craggy flax]

cool will check them all out ty

[worldly breach]

i've been having moderate fun with the newly buffed flame whipper

got one of the plans i had for the build get ruined by conversion ruining the flat damage from ignite chance tho :c

[pearl snow]

Ah from Fissure Node

yeah unlucky

[worldly breach]

will need to retool it tomorrow cause of it

was gonna go 100% crit poison version

would have been hilariously busted

so probably better that it doesn't work

still sad tho

[void cypress]

my acolyte is mostly a caster, is it worth to get a single summon spell? i was thinking of either bone golem or skeletal mages

[radiant helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4fWw8rTJsI is this guy cooking?

[pearl snow]

Witchfire is good

[crisp ridge]

imo his setup is bad, unless hes changed some of the weird things eh had(planner is broken)

[pearl snow]

Crab ring is wack

[radiant helm]

i 100% hate crab ring

[bitter zealot]

tldr: how to scale up profane oblation?

[pearl snow]

thats gotta be a meme

[worldly breach]

i hate losing evade personally but i can see others not minding it

rest of the stats on crab ring are pretty ok tbh

[bitter zealot]

non-tldr - how to scale profane oblation - im having a blast ~clvl75, last3 normal monos, trying to pushs ome scale, and having weird outcomes between item swaps, minion spell/necrotic dmg feels meh +flat minion spell (with melee or bow) dmg feels limited, then my own crt and necrotic dmg feels doing a thing, when afaik should not (minion casts the spell?)
tried to online and discord searches, many answers, doubt if any uptdated, found many build guides, also various answers; halp o/

[pearl snow]

what did he do to that 4LP Firestarter

[wintry flame]

mana stacking

[pearl snow]

Regardless

Witchfire is good, I dont like his setup but it works ffor him

[bitter zealot]

oh Hi Zeckar, found You answered many times on this skill already... but... mana?! that feels much odd? I though i have unlimited mana with Mind Catcher node on skelly warriors (+15mana per skelly death)?

[high smelt]

Whats the bet way to farm weaver points

[pearl snow]

you cant "farm" them

you have to do woven echos

[wintry flame]

Mana stacking is for Skeletal mage Forbidden Arcana node can get quite the multiplier with mana and then in chaos bolt Revolution also gives you flat spell per mana. 1k mana is 200% multi and 50 flat

@bitter zealot ^ oops forgot to tag

[craggy flax]

ok that one that kzb posted with the volatile zombies looks like fun
thanks again

[pearl snow]

Np

Yeah just make sure you got Cycle for it

[craggy flax]

I do 👍

[high smelt]

do i use those special token things i buy from weaver guy

[bitter zealot]

thats... much unexpected outcome, yet super awesome! synergy, from far further than expected! greatly thanks!
what about adding some other stats on items next to mana? +flat minion spell dmg? +minion necro/spell %dmg? +minion crt? +my own crt? my own necro/spell?

[pearl snow]

I'm lazy, but yes that part of it. Ill just copy paste

To place Woven Echoes inside your existing Timeline, complete a Cemetery Echo within that Timeline. At the end of the Cemetery is a device that opens your timeline map with open slots for additional Echoes from your Woven Echo inventory.```

[oak minnow]

Got a build planner link of what you would do different?

[pearl snow]

Yeah I can grab my endgame idea

[wintry flame]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/skeletal-roid-mage-necromancer-guide similar setup just will have to change some skills/gear. Also made a planner for mage army version, haven't played yet so unsure the exact setup, but can toy with that too https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0ae7KXB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (87) / Warlock (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,968, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,418.49, Regen: 22.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 213%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 69 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 80% / 70% / 76% / 65% / 93% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 594
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (145)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,020)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Skeleton / Dread Shade / Chaos Bolts / Summon Volatile Zombie

[pearl snow]

Im eventually writing my guide on it

[pearl snow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApwZnJJo
Tentative Endgame setup for now

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (10) / Warlock (83)

General:

▸ Health: 1,547, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 178.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 312%, Regen: 235/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 11 Dex / 76 Int / 1 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 119% / 159% / 101% / 112% / 104% / 378% / 125%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 309
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,313)
▸ Block Chance: 27%, Mitigation: 39% (1,208)

Used skills:

Wandering Spirits / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chaos Bolts / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

Porbably swapping in the Pearls of Swine neck

and firestarter

[knotty cave]

Any crit lich builds rn??

[crisp ridge]

🤔

[high smelt]

yeah infernal shade. real good

and lazer beam one. stygian coal

[bitter zealot]

Even if that Roid build feels different, looks fancy to try it at some point, totally gonna save it
for profane oblation - more and more mana, little minion spell dmg, and all def, will follow;
again, much thx ❤️

[wintry flame]

of course!

[oak minnow]

You think the low life, leech into more damage isn’t worth it?

[pearl snow]

Its fairly gear dependent and only exsang is not enough

[crisp ridge]

very hard to sustain urself

[pearl snow]

plus Chaos Bolt is leeching so much you end up cucking youyrself

YOu have to fight all the passive health leech you have

isnt very fun

tldr yeah not worth

You can easily play with Cthonic though and attempt low life plus extension on the CB tree

[warm tinsel]

hello, i am new to arpg
does anyone have stygian coal for trade? i saw that build xD

[oak minnow]

There is a trade faction that lets you use gold to buy whatever you want
It’s towards the end of the main story

[vital cave]

well?

[oak minnow]

It’s been 3 hours lol

[vital cave]

cud be tomorrow u never know

[pearl snow]

lol

[warm tinsel]

ok, can u send me some link where i can see where is that fraction?

i am lvl 71, i think i completed the main story

[oak minnow]

When you are in desert, did you have an option to speak to circle of fortune or merchants guild?

#💰┃merchants-guild

[warm tinsel]

yes
i think i selected the trade one

[pearl snow]

Bazaar is the merchant

[oak minnow]

Go to the bazaar, and talk to the catalyst vendor

[warm tinsel]

yeah, i found it
problem is i choose wrong
i have to leave circle of fortune first

[finite galleon]

@wintry flame Zeckar senpai i'm watching your newest video

OMEGALUL It's too funny

min rolled cleaver solution for +1 skill AND less int for infernal shade purposes is some sick stuff

[wintry flame]

lmaoooo

I am absolutely cooked

[grave plume]

I need to find a good exalt for this

I assume I would want minion dmg+health and then idk what else

[finite galleon]

Funnily enough if you're looking to use this tome to snapshot, having 2LP on it is actually a small plus cuz of the new unique affix reroll thingy (unless I've misunderstood the patch notes)

cuz the suffixes are stonecold worthless

[grave plume]

snapshot?

[finite galleon]

It's a realm best left untouched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1b6BwOmpUo See how Zeckar's despair progressed here the deeper he went into snapshotting

[grave plume]

I've never heard the term snapshotting for this game so ima watch the video now

[finite galleon]

Noice

[grave plume]

Im using the auto loop necro build.

[finite galleon]

@wintry flame Btw zeckar senpai, from the sound of it, we can summon something, then despec those skills (in your case skellies and the two types of shades) without affecting the existing copies at all? (So switching area and putting points INTO a skill are the only ways for something to be resummoned?)

[finite galleon]

Life's easier that way. Keep doing it until you hit a wall! (or lose interest)

[grave plume]

Oh, it's literally the exact same mechanic from an idle game I used to play.

Where you can micro manage the effectiveness of different actions by equiping certain gear and the game is stupid so it doesn't keep track when you unequip the beneficial gear.

I HATED snapshotting

[finite galleon]

Hmm, yes, tedious. Ideally a game should either dynamically update this type of things, or have a system in place to help players set it up

[grave plume]

And I would only be able to do this with wraiths anyways since they are the only minions that don't die. (ideally)

[tender ridge]

what do y'all think, EleDoT + DoT?

[grave plume]

magess get resummoned due to traversal and the whole point of everything else is to die endlessly.

so only wraiths will benefit

I will smash it with exalt without regrets

[grave plume]

neat

Im running double zombie resummon rings

[tender ridge]

maybe eledot and int

[grave plume]

but I may change one of the rings for something else idk what tho

I can select a guaranteed affix when smashing now!?

[pearl snow]

yep 1

[crisp ridge]

not realyl great for any acolyte build aye? like its okay but not great

[pearl snow]

wow

Actually

if you slap on a suffix you want. And chaos over the minion health to like Crit or % inc dmg you might be able to use it for like a crit Shade build?

use the rune thingy

get a T6 off Dodge onto your desired affixes

[crisp ridge]

4 rerolls to end up back on minion hp

🤡

[pearl snow]

you hate to see it

LOL

[crisp ridge]

got like, damage over time, minion damage, poison damage, minion hp

🤡

crit multi wouldve been

[pearl snow]

close

[crisp ridge]

only took 19 forge potential too

[pearl snow]

it wanted to be great so bad

[crisp ridge]

rip forge potential

[pearl snow]

its so clean

1 1 1

[crisp ridge]

so close, yet so far

[pearl snow]

I swear the downfall relic hates me

I at least got 2lp but

[night pagoda]

random question, does wraithlord buff stack? or do i just need to feed it 1 minion

[pearl snow]

min rolls across the board

[crisp ridge]

atleast u can reroll them

i had to do that

[pearl snow]

oh If I get a spare

I should

[crisp ridge]

mine came out solid in the end

[tender ridge]

nemesis was not kind to me

[crisp ridge]

u can still use it to reroll other 1lps

[pearl snow]

if you alrady have a legendary you can use that as reeroll fuel?

[tender ridge]

yea

[pearl snow]

cool

[tender ridge]

I have a 1LP sitting in the stash that I'm waiting for a good relic to slam it with

[crisp ridge]

🥲 not even using it

[pearl snow]

oh I meant if its already a legendary can it be fuel for a unique

[pearl snow]

basically my rolls

but my implicits were liek 20%

[crisp ridge]

yea

basically if u have a good 1lp you do the following

any 1lps -> reroll lp at turtle(?)
if it goes 2lp pog, else, nemesis egg it

if nemsis gives lp, turtle it again, if it makes it a lego, use it to reroll implicits on somethin else

[gusty quarry]

damm it u guys already got the relic me trying to find ing for some time ( spend all my accendace )

how to farm it

[pearl snow]

I think its a 4% ascendence

Prophecies

[crisp ridge]

i had to use profecies, i couldnt find any for ages but then it gave me heaps

[pearl snow]

using COF

[gusty quarry]

ohh that y bcz i got all other relic for acolytei guess other than this

[oak minnow]

Prophecies, any legendary relic on random boss kill(champions count for this)

[autumn mango]

dread shades premium effect from the store almost feels pay to win because of how much brighter it is

[wintry flame]

some skills will reset on any changes to the tree, an example is wraiths

or maybe only despecing that skill I'm not sure I know I specced it got wraiths out despecced and it reset without any changes

might take some testing on other skills

[gritty cargo]

🫡 warlock has become banker toon

[pearl snow]

why you need a bank lmao

[finite galleon]

Good to know, good to know. (By good to know I mean at some point I'm going to attempt to de-spec everything and grab 10 lvls of bone curse, rip blood, harvest & chaos bolt in a race against my abom's decay and inevitably rage quit a bunch)

Also somehow your video has only strengthened my resolve to snapshot. I was totally not thinking about trying to have more INT for lich's scorn dread shade purposes. That means int gloves with lich's shard on it, instead of just lich's gloves, if my mana can handle it.

Thanks zeckar 😙

[light vessel]

anyone familiar with the stygian coal build? seems alot different and way less multi target than about 2 hours ago. unplayable compaired to earlier today

[crisp ridge]

game pad?

[light vessel]

nah keyboard

[crisp ridge]

odd

[wintry flame]

yeah I had lots of improvements to make to the build as well so def some tech in there that can be expanded on!

[crisp ridge]

thought only change was too gamepad

[light vessel]

i saw the patch notes i wonder if thats it but ive checked for about 45 m and i havent changed anything on character

[vital cave]

rip blood seems to consume leech instances in the test dummy area, can be easily reproduced with a big drain from reaper form and aura of decay on the multi-dummy set to generate a large amount of (poison source) leech.

[magic granite]

hi everyone, any good filter for necromancer? I am a rookie at this game and current lvl is 41.

[mint blade]

Guys I just respec to Lich lv 50 with Stygian Coal and all skills lv 8, it just doesnt work, what can I do ?

[pearl snow]

Youd have to link your toon its hard to know without seeing it but 50 seems low

[pearl snow]

Id recommend making one yourself unless you are following a guide with one

Fairly straightforward

Mainly because filters vary WILDLY between builds even among the same mastery

[quartz quartz]

😅 pearls of swine with penance melts through health, of myself. I have bone curse toggle and get mark of death+penance applied on myself, with the amount of hits fissure does I absolutely melt through my ward and hp even if I'm capped on resist and ignore mark.
Seems like penance also activates bone curse on myself because death blow is necrotic dmg when I test against dummies

[pearl snow]

itd help to get a armor applies to DoT mod I think

not too sure on it

[warm prawn]

okay so I'm rolling stygian coal lich and... how do I do? Do I put drain life on numlock and spam rip blood when I see targets or what?

[high smelt]

so for Crit Lich what is better 5% or 8%,

for Twisted Heart

[pearl snow]

8% will give you more ward

[high smelt]

Not sure which roll is considered "good"

for that build

but i have no ward during Seal

[pearl snow]

yeah but you seal your HP right

so its quicker to drain it if its 8%

[high smelt]

there is a talent were it auto seals 33%

[unkempt sedge]

hi guys. is Aaron's Will unique golem build bad?

[pearl snow]

then youll still seal quicker because you travel from 100 - 33% qwuicker

[vital cave]

does anyone know if adaptive spell damage is added to drain life with stygian coal, and the node is selected to remove necrotic and add poison tag to drain life, will it deal poison HIT damage in spite of this not generally being a thing in LE?

[marble crypt]

hmmm

[old hull]

Getting to full health removes all your active leech instances, but effects that drain your health like reaper form prevent you from technically reaching full. The healing from rip blood is probably making you actually hit full and lose your leech.

[old hull]

The poison conversion doesn't work for stygian coal iirc, as you are right poison hit damage is illegal

[winged pewter]

Just curious how much can you invest into aura of decay?

Can you juice it up to a walking simulator

[old hull]

A lot, but it sucks offensively

[winged pewter]

I was playing around with the champion mod that turns bleed into ignite and maybe taking the bleed node in aura of decay but then I realise all the ignite mods on gear are ignite on hit

And as I understand the aura doesn't hit

[old hull]

Right, AoD is pretty much a lost cause right now. We are just holding out for the lich rework in S3, hopefully we'll see AoD be viable in some way.

Rumor is that it might get a cold conversion, so that could mean it gets some attention

[obtuse quest]

Correct! It just has a special function where it converts a part of your chance to poison on hit into poison chance for AoD, UNLESS you take the projectile node. That one projectile respects all chances to ailment.

[winged pewter]

Yeah I might just mess around with it

See if I can get a comfy thing going

[obtuse quest]

Remember, more poison damage= more self poison damage.

[winged pewter]

I don't want to use reaper form though as my experience with that version was killing me when there's no enemies

[obtuse quest]

So good godamn luck with that.

Every method I tried to make it work made me lose my sanity.

[winged pewter]

Yeah prolly gotta be insane healing effectiveness or health regen

[obtuse quest]

Then you ask yourself "What for when my build is better without AoD?"

[crisp ridge]

prob shouldnt go lich then 😂

[obtuse quest]

(That's my experience with it basically)

[plush loom]

Does Signet of Agony node make the bone curse applied on you scale with your spell damage mods?

[obtuse quest]

Yes, it's a copy of your bone curse basically.

[old hull]

Hey wait a minute, something is off with your name. It makes my joke earlier not work right 😂

[obtuse quest]

I got tired, so I might as well state what I'm cooking now

[winged pewter]

Passive gives you leech which is important for staying alive too

[crisp ridge]

yea but reaper form is a very large tool, not using it is just a waste

[obtuse quest]

Also, don't even think about using the armour shred convert.

[winged pewter]

Yeah you're never gonna live from that

[old hull]

I did get myself one of those relics earlier, hope it's going well because I'm almost for sure going to try it at some point this cycle

[obtuse quest]

Oh good, someone who notices immediately, there's hope in this world.

No bone nova fix
Rip necro leveling

[wise basalt]

Is abom better than wraithlord now?

[obtuse quest]

Always has been if you put the effort into it

[wise basalt]

What does effort mean?

If I need to "snapshot" I will just switch classes at this point, it's too sweaty for me

[crisp ridge]

u dont need to snap shot...

[wise basalt]

Yeah we had this discussion yesterday

[crisp ridge]

and yet ur still asking the same questions

[wise basalt]

Yeah because I'm mad I'm dying at 100 corruption and now I have to switch everything

It will take ages

[obtuse quest]

You need to resummon it and channel that damn thinng everytime it dies.
It's clear is also slightly worse than wraithlord's.

[wise basalt]

The build on maxroll make it seem it's almost invincible

[crisp ridge]

ur build being bad at sub 500 isnt because of the skill

its ur build.., ur stats, etc.

[wise basalt]

Yeah but when I change my build to live longer then my lord will probably stop doing any damage at all so I might as well switch the build to something different entirely

[crisp ridge]

yea idk what to say

[wise basalt]

As seen in my first wraithlord character, pathetic damage at 150 corruption since S2, too much nerfs

I'm wondering what people in this chat play, specifically necros