📚┃off-topic

[narrow token]

You guys might laugh but the game that horrified ME as a child was I.Q.: Intelligent Qube

[twilit mountain]

Hold on I don't know this one

[jovial bane]

Wizardry got Gacha spin-off

[sand wigeon]

Nah

[opal anvil]

yea

[jovial bane]

I should not be surprised, but I am

[sand wigeon]

Different wizards actually

[opal anvil]

what nah

[sand wigeon]

Entirely different spells tbh

[twilit mountain]

Why is it so liminal

[narrow token]

Puzzle game. What frightened me was being in a big ass void.

[jovial bane]

@opal anvil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G0yeNCu5VU
I always recommend sseth reviews, here is the wizardry 8 one

[narrow token]

I don't know, but it still freaks me out. The sound design on it was also way too realistic for its time.

[opal anvil]

sseth is funny

lowpoly my beloved

you really can get poisoned for weeks?

[jovial bane]

I don't think so ?

[opal anvil]

sseth lied to me...

[jovial bane]

But I think you could in Might & Magic

[opal anvil]

nice

[twilit mountain]

Oh yeah. Play Rain World. It's like Noita but instead of magic you're a weird slug thing (literally called a slugcat) and fkin everything wants to kill and eat you and also the planet is dying and also you can wake up G O D

[opal anvil]

dragon ball z

[junior oyster]

Did you guys play steamworld dig 2? The game was generally cozy until a certain part

[opal anvil]

i played first

[junior oyster]

That part really took me off guard xD

[junior oyster]

I honestly heard so much about it and I know in another server 2 people were playing often. I always forget to wishlist it xD

[sand wigeon]

I wish Noita was about running a farm OH MY GODS IS THAT STARDEW VALLEY

[opal anvil]

i kinda dont get rain world

is it like non linear "open world"

[twilit mountain]

Absolute hell game. Highly recommend.

[narrow token]

Anyone tried Mages of Mystralia?

[sand wigeon]

No it’s linear

[junior oyster]

It kind of reminds me of supermeat boy

[narrow token]

They turned the sequel into a roguelike or smth

[opal anvil]

it seemed to me like an immersive sim

[desert jasper]

I find the Noita Finnish words funny when you're playing it in Finnish

[sand wigeon]

The story path in Rain World is linear

The exploration is not

I amend my statement

[opal anvil]

kinda like ds1?

[twilit mountain]

Once you get past the individual slugcat stories you can just kinda... get started on the hidden existential horrors

[sand wigeon]

Do you only function with comparisons

No, nothing like DS1

Picture this

An original concept

And game

That lacks comparison

It’s Rain World, I can’t think of a single other game actually like it

[twilit mountain]

Everything sucks, everything is dying, everyone wants you in particular in their stomach, and you cannot fix it, good luck don't die and please consult the glowing purple eyeballs and tentacles hidden in the earth!

[sand wigeon]

It’s like a post apocalypse world sim

And you’re one random thing

In that sim

That’s Rain World

[opal anvil]

yeah most games i know can be compared to other games to explain easier to someone who didn't play them

[sand wigeon]

Usually my brain cells spark and new ideas form without someone needing to break their back to compare basic ideas to me

[opal anvil]

i guess rain world is kind of game you should experience to understand

[twilit mountain]

Yeah it's... unique. In all the best and worst ways.

[opal anvil]

yeah i can imagine quite a few very different games from how you guys describe it
but it won't necessary be accurate

no rain world in family library...it's joever

no dlc is fine to get acquainted with?

[sand wigeon]

Everyone should okay Suck er for Love and I’m only kinda joking

That game’s interpretation if the King in Yellow is genuinely hilarious

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, not necessary until you complete base game imho

[opal anvil]

oh new grim misadventure dropped

woah

they probably mentioned it already but still

[junior oyster]

That was known before right?

[opal anvil]

i 100% purposefully forget things to experience excitement again :D

[junior oyster]

I gotta read it but in a bit

[sand wigeon]

I extract memory from my spinal fluid and store it in small vials that I inject into rat’s brains like aspartame to see if they impersonate Socrates

[junior oyster]

I forgot it existed till you mentioned it right now

[opal anvil]

they are doing it!!!

[junior oyster]

Only this matters
And it’s all nearly here. I dread to be that guy announcing an announcement, but if everything goes according to plan, you will know the release date by the end of May with our gameplay trailer.

So trailer probably next Thursday or something

And exp releasing maybe in Aug?

I'm not a big fan of WASD for arpgs so that doesn't affect me but still good to know for those that do like that kind of control scheme

Final BLEACH trailer here we go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2iWIWqJ39s

[desert jasper]

I wonder when GGG shows the martial artist

[opal anvil]

i was indifferent about wasd until i tried and now i cant go back

it feels great to play imo

besides if i hold mouse buttons for too long my arm grows sore

i even bind move to space in poe

[desert jasper]

I like WASD for some playstyles
Like bow & casters I feel it's a must
slams not as much

[opal anvil]

it looks very fun

[lethal bane]

Noita taught me about trigger safety

[fierce moth]

...I understand why game of thrones never will available in China after... Too sexy

And quite bloody indeed

Both of them are prohibited

[jovial bane]

iirc even in the west when it relased it was a bit controversial

[lethal bane]

There was quite a bit of talk about it, yeah

[fierce moth]

I'm watching... Oh man I'm sure it's something can ban immediately if I post that here

e7 is unbelievable

[jovial bane]

that show was damn good, and of course the last season fell of the cliff

[junior oyster]

I never watched the show so I never needed to be disappointed 🔥

[real kayak]

Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was so damn good though

I've tried to rewatch got but the stain S7 and S8 put on it just ruins it

[desert jasper]

Oh man
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night was such a good game
Just played through it again
Though I've to admit I hate the drop rates for some things

[jovial bane]

I hated how sluggy Bloodstained felt until I've changed that in options

I have no idea why that god damn setting was off by default

[desert jasper]

What option? 🤔

[jovial bane]

I forgot the name, reduce input lag or something like this

[desert jasper]

oh
I don't think I really noticed that
maybe I'm weird

[vagrant topaz]

You definitely are, but thats beside the point

[desert jasper]

That's true

Honestly, I think most people in the arpg player population are weird

[opal anvil]

most people are weird period

[desert jasper]

I suppose that's true

[opal anvil]

if most people are weird then being weird is normal? 🤔

[vagrant topaz]

Are we normally weird ? Or weirdly normal ?

[desert jasper]

Normally weirdly normal

[fierce moth]

Cool, sold a ddr4 16GB ram after waited a buyer for 2 months. Hope money go in my wallet in time \o/
Now just Samsung 16GB ddr4 still waiting...

[desert jasper]

Tbh I should get more ram

[fierce moth]

I should too

No one know when though

[desert jasper]

Also
I've no idea what I'd play until the poe2 league

[warped wren]

I have too much to play till then

Yet still hungry for patchnotes

[desert jasper]

I guess I could give TLI a go
haven't played it yet

But yeah, patchnotes on friday

[warped wren]

Thursday

21st

[desert jasper]

Oh, thursday? cool
Though I guess it'll be late enough that I'll go through them on friday

[junior oyster]

Terraria

Beyond all reason

[abstract karma]

What about something less which reminds me ARPG grinding feeling ?

[junior oyster]

Huh

[abstract karma]

Well i'm playing Deux GOTY so not bad, trying this old school stealth game

[fierce moth]

Drink yogurt is more enjoyable than drink milk when I want to drink some dairy

You can grind sn 2

[desert jasper]

Look
I've tried Terraria
I don't really enjoy it that much

[junior oyster]

Play poe1 then

Or play poe2 before new season starts

Refine your hours played in campaign

[desert jasper]

I don't do campaign runs
Don't need it to be fast
especially when I don't know what I'll actually play in the league

[fierce moth]

I don't do campaign runs too because I can't play spirit walker until the league begin

[warped wren]

I have to try and finish off E33, get the last couple stars on TerraTech Legions, and uhh maybe do some campaign practice just to test some shit out

Plenty to keep me busy

[desert jasper]

Yeah, I'd probably play E33 first but don't have it

[warped wren]

And if that's not enough I always have my Rogue Trader run going and I also just bought Roadwarden

[desert jasper]

But alas
new games are expensive

[abstract karma]

question:
Have you any games you havent played yet in your list of owned games ?

[fierce moth]

I didn't redeem xbox game pass to try new games yet

sn & sn2

[desert jasper]

Oh, I've plenty of games i own but haven't played
mostly the "oh, that's free currently, I'll take it"
even when knowing it's not my type of game

[abstract karma]

Then roll up your list put it to numbers and pseudo-random generator will make choice
OR
Show it here and somebody will shoot some ideas

its hard to guess what to offer to you when nobody know what you are owning

[lethal bane]

I've got a book I wanna finish up before league

Shouldn't take me long, but I've been busy with my finals and tired

[desert jasper]

I've like 300 games on steam
And then some on GoG on top of that

[abstract karma]

ugh.. So if you dont wanna play something similar to ARPG like PoE 2 i think it can cut at least 50 of them..

[junior oyster]

Minions

[abstract karma]

Crossbow minion skill

[junior oyster]

A lot

[desert jasper]

oh nah
I'm not going to play minions again in poe2
They just don't feel good

[junior oyster]

I know I was messing lol

You mentioned that previously too

I'd recommend slay the spire 2 but that requires interest. Don't think you are interested though

[desert jasper]

With Anita Sarkeesian being credited ?
Yeah, not really

[junior oyster]

Lol ok

[lethal bane]

lmfao, she made Ironclad gay

Making all the cards gay too along with the frogs

[abstract karma]

I would go something slower before getting to ARPG
AvP
Arx Fatalis
Amnesia whatever episode
CrossCode
Dark Mesiash
Dead Island
Deux
Dead Space
Elex
Fable
Fallout
FlyKnight
KoAR
System Shock
Elder scroll whatever episode

[placid yarrow]

I'm looking at my backlog right now trying to find something to play lul

I did start a new cyberpunk 2077 save but idk I don't think It's been quite long enough since I last played

[desert jasper]

Yeah, I did start cyberpunk 2077 but didn't really like it that much

[junior oyster]

People really hating on a game regarding someone who barely even matters is kind of wild imo

[placid yarrow]

I actually think the start of the game is it's weakpoint since you don't have enough tools to play with yet

[desert jasper]

I don't hate the game
I just refuse to support anita sarkeesian.

[placid yarrow]

Especially on harder difficulties it feels like the game fights you trying to do things your way

[warped wren]

I have no idea who that is

[placid yarrow]

but eventually you pop off and it opens up

[desert jasper]

A person who got popular thanks to vids how gamers hate women

[warped wren]

I really want to play CP2077 again but it's on my PS5 and it's hard to play on that freely with a kid in the house lol

[junior oyster]

Same

Only thing I know is she was somewhat big back in 2010s or something

[abstract karma]

you dont have special space for your gaming sessions ? Like some these guys which used empty space under stairs

[warped wren]

I see. How much of it is exaggerated and how much real? Because even off the top of my head I can think of plenty of examples proving that sentiment right

[desert jasper]

She very much exaggerated that shit

[placid yarrow]

new frostpunk 2 dlc coming june 3'rd so that'll keep me occupied for a bit

prob play poe 2 as well

[warped wren]

I live in a 1bhk condo so no

[junior oyster]

Are you living in the past cyborg

[placid yarrow]

wdym

oh

june 3'rd

lmao

[junior oyster]

It's all good

[placid yarrow]

Thinking of starting a wartales or battle brothers save in the meantime

[warped wren]

inverse grift

we really should implement that Chinese social media law, banning "influencers" from making videos about topics they don't have expertise in

desperately needed

[desert jasper]

Eh I don't think that's the way, really

[warped wren]

the way is to completely ban minors from social media and to hold social media corporations responsible for the content uploaded on their platforms, but we know neither will happen

nor will that law, for that matter

a man can dream

[desert jasper]

Okay, torchlight downloaded

No idea what character to start as

[twilit mountain]

Stepping in. Good morning. She wasn't grifting, it was just very surface level criticism of examples of sexism in the game industry and video games as a production. People got very bent out of shape because a handful of her examples were too surface level and needed some better information, but overall it was fine entry level criticism and all that really happened was, shocker, she was right, the online gaming community is abhorrent towards women.

[warped wren]

🫡 morning. I see. Unsurprised. Youtuber doesn't dabble in nuance, neither does their audience, everybody hates each other

very on-brand

[desert jasper]

Ah, and here I was, hoping Deias would be giving me recommendation on what to start with in TLI

[junior oyster]

People were playing sts2 well before finding out her name wad in the creds. I just find it ridiculous they find out much later and start hating on her lol

[placid yarrow]

Did you guys ever play that flash game where you were a penguin trying to fly with gliders

[junior oyster]

No but I played a turn based flash game of megaman and it was great

I miss that game

[placid yarrow]

What about age of war

banger

[junior oyster]

Dunno was that a stickman game?

[warped wren]

idk man, people being salty about some rando consultant is comical to me when Blizzard (a company that suppressed serious sexual harassment cases at the workplace) and Ubisoft (with its union-busting and anti-labor policies) and EA (with its utterly rotten greed even over and above its peers) are still the biggest studios on the planet with the largest playerbases. This is just a petty level of virtue signaling.

[abstract karma]

Have you ever played RPG about penguin in futuristic world ? (FreedroidRPG)

[placid yarrow]

lol no

[twilit mountain]

Big slam melee -> Rehan
Quick and agile melee -> Erika
Mine-like triggers -> Bing
Projectile spam attacks (mostly) -> Carino
Projectile spells -> Gemma
Damage over time -> Blasphemer Thea or Elapse Youga
Minions -> Moto
Minions but infused into you -> Iris

Breaks down more but it'd take quite a while to elaborate on every variant or possible build

[placid yarrow]

but I'm looking it up

Okay I think that was before my time looking at the graphics lmao

[abstract karma]

this game was in developing for XXXXX years 😄 nobody said it something amazing

last time i've played when i was kid lol

[placid yarrow]

Damn only 2009? I thought it would be pre 2000 ngl lmao

[abstract karma]

it made directly for linux, what did you except

[junior oyster]

I'm a guy and I realise it's essentially a hatred of women in gaming. I don't think the steam reviewers notice it lol

[twilit mountain]

Unrelated it's 84°F/29°C, I'm so happy

[abstract karma]

meanwhile women in gaming: Die you piece of meat playing doom

[placid yarrow]

Honestly I feel like it's harder to make a game look this old so kudos to them lol

[desert jasper]

Went with Gemma
for now

[junior oyster]

Around 10 here

Not bad

[warped wren]

I will never forget the random vitriol tossed out (and still active) against Aloy in the Horizon series. Not that I love her character, but that's because of how poorly she's written, rather than me being some cheeto dust covered 300lb neckbeard screaming about her being "ugly"

[placid yarrow]

it's like 18 here during the day, perfect temp

[twilit mountain]

Gemma do be a good starter. There's only like 3 bad characters right now, and even then it's just "yeah it'll be hard to get to T8 and might not be Profound viable" which you honestly shouldn't care about as a new player

[junior oyster]

Aloy is hot. I can't play that game with my wife around 🤣

[placid yarrow]

The normal games or the new stylized one?

[abstract karma]

first game wasnt bad, second is just weird.. It could be done better i guess

[warped wren]

normal

[junior oyster]

The originals

[warped wren]

the new one just looks straight trash ngl

[placid yarrow]

I feel like she was fine in both. I enjoyed them

[junior oyster]

Ai like bs

[warped wren]

same

[desert jasper]

I took "Flame of pleasure" Gemma, how much does that matter?

[twilit mountain]

Hunter's Gathering (I think that's the game) is basically unrelated to the main series I believe. I'm not even sure if it's the same dev team?

[placid yarrow]

Yea don't think so

[warped wren]

yeah it's different devs

[placid yarrow]

looks pretty mid tbh

[warped wren]

Sony trying to build a franchise

in the worst ways possible

[placid yarrow]

I don't think it's something i'd play

[twilit mountain]

The different versions change how they play and build but don't worry you can just yoink ideas off leaderboards when that unlocks for you

[placid yarrow]

Tbf the writing isn't the series strong point in general honestly, it's mid all around imo

[junior oyster]

It's a game I wish they wouldn't release to pc for once

[warped wren]

it's really funny but this is the first game I've played where the main character is written WAY worse than many of the side characters / world lore

[placid yarrow]

I just really like how on a hard enough difficulty almost every enemy feels like a miniboss/boss

[warped wren]

it's amazing that it's the same writing team

[abstract karma]

Well a lot of corporates saying that want more closed developing for their consoles so there is always hope

[placid yarrow]

and that it pays of to prep in advance instead of doing the exact same thing for all enemies

[twilit mountain]

Bethesda:

[warped wren]

I don't play Bethesda games

[twilit mountain]

Valid

[placid yarrow]

I wish the witcher 3 had a deeper combat system, would've made it so much better. I still played through the base game and the dlc's plus a bit of ng+ but I would have kept playing if the combat didn't make my brain melt

Especially on death march where a lot of fights can take ages lmao

but even if they didn't it would feel bad just spamming the same attack between using the quen

[twilit mountain]

The combat is like the entire reason I quit the game on repeat. I got it for FREE on console when I was playing on there. But oh my gods it was so ass, I couldn't do it.

[abstract karma]

you miss a lot then.. Elder scroll is old school (not remasters i mean the original bethesda games)

[desert jasper]

Alright
i'll try to get used to the controls

[placid yarrow]

Yeah It's like the only critique I have of the game honestly, the story is great, it has lots of interesting content and side stories and stuff

itemization is pretty nice

level system is pretty interesting

but then the combat is just so barebones

[junior oyster]

I have the witcher games but never played any

I think I got them from humble bundle

[placid yarrow]

If the witcher 3 had a way better combat system I might prefer it to cyberpunk 2077, but with the combat it has I vastly prefer cyberpunk

To me the story and narrative in the witcher is better than in cyberpunk, the world too tbh

[warped wren]

I don't have the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses needed to tolerate that level of jank for a mediocre game, nor do I have the patience to hunt for the exact 2000-mods combo needed to make it a good game

[placid yarrow]

they had to rush and cut a lot of the things that would've made the world better in cyberpunk sadly, still turned out amazing but yeah

[twilit mountain]

I really dislike Cyberpunk. The video game adaptation specifically. The TTRPG is really well done!

[obtuse rune]

I need to actually play Cyberpunk..

[abstract karma]

which ES or Fallout you are talking about tho ? Welp eitherway i think you miss a lot

[placid yarrow]

Kcd2 is the gold standard when it comes to having an open world feel alive for me now, the fact that every single npc is a part of the world and not just generated for when you're around is pretty insane to me

[warped wren]

I tried original Skyrim, and original Fallout. Both sucked if you ask me, couldn't hold me for more than a few hours

[placid yarrow]

Honestly you had to play them when they came out imo, I wouldn't think skyrim is a very good game if I played it today I feel

but at the time it was lit

[warped wren]

I did

🤷‍♂️

I remember that slowdown time thing in Fallout, where you can aim at specific parts, being quite cool but that's about it

[twilit mountain]

VATS is pretty neat yeah

[placid yarrow]

I'm not as big of a fan of fallout, I did enjoy fallout 4 but meh. Skyrim I played a decent amount though

[twilit mountain]

I get you, though. I don't really like Bethesda games. Whole lotta walking, not a lotta doing in every game. And at least half the doing is clunky and weird.

[placid yarrow]

Not as much as the witcher or cyberpunk but still like 80 or so hours

@warped wren have you played divinity original sin? I've only played the second one but it's great

you might enjoy it

[warped wren]

tbf I found Witcher 3 clunky as well, and I have yet to play more than a few hours. But at least that's on my "will eventually play" list because the story and writing are very interesting

[placid yarrow]

It is

[warped wren]

I have D:OS2, it's on the list

[placid yarrow]

It might be in my top 10 of all time

such a memorable experience for me

my first playthrough that is

[obtuse rune]

It's really fun.

[placid yarrow]

I'm really looking forward to the new divinity

[obtuse rune]

Went into that game with no idea what to expect. Absolute blast for me and my friends, even

[warped wren]

I will definitely get around to it, probably later this year

[placid yarrow]

same

[obtuse rune]

fingers crossed

[twilit mountain]

I don't like CRPGs 😔

[warped wren]

my mental order for all the longer RPGs I have right now is Rogue Trader -> BG3 -> D:OS2

might switcheroo the last two idk

[placid yarrow]

I never got BG3, I don't think I will until it's on a big sale either tbh because I have a fairly strong suspicion I won't enjoy it very much sadly

I've just never liked a D&D videogame adaptation / ruleset in a videogame

[twilit mountain]

Update, my Steam family collectively has the entire Fallout series apparently.

[placid yarrow]

It always feels like the games are forcing something that doesn't really fit into a videogame in an effort to stay faithful to the source material

[abstract karma]

You dont like Fallout, ES, Wither 3 dang. If you say you also dong like Gothic series than you are made enemies like of 70% of rpg's fans 😄

[twilit mountain]

I mean, yeah, a D&D video game is just never going to feel.... right. It can't. By very nature a video game is going to be more restrictive, more contained, and overall less involved no matter how much effort is put into it.

[placid yarrow]

Yeah exactly, It's just not my cup of tea but that's fine

[twilit mountain]

I have not played Gothic. I probably would not like it. I do not really enjoy WRPGs.

[placid yarrow]

I'll have the new divinity to play instead when that comes outr

[abstract karma]

Baldur gate and Icewind could done it well and keep D&D

[twilit mountain]

No they couldn't but I'm not here to argue

[placid yarrow]

I'm a little tempted to play darkest dungeon again, it's been so long

I don't think it can hook me anymore though sadly, I played it way too much

[jovial bane]

wasn't the most popular mod overhauling combat ?

[placid yarrow]

black reliquary? I didn't really like what it did to the combat honestly

the pre-combat prep phase feels kinda worthless to me. Like it doesn't really actually provide anything except make the combat longer

[abstract karma]

what is difference between W and E RPG's or JRPG's ? I mean except combat systems and theme of story/lore, features of RPG's are similar or almost same..
(if you meant W by west.. Tho Witcher nor Gothic are West but Europe origin)
Some have good ideas / some not..

[placid yarrow]

I also don't think the enemies or the class reworks are as solid as the originals were

[warped wren]

never said I didn't like Witcher 3, just said the combat in it is mid as hell. The story is interesting enough, I will get around to it. Gothic I've never played

[twilit mountain]

Europe is west, my dude

[placid yarrow]

they'll give a single hero / enemy some super convoluted mechanic that you don't see anywhere else for no good reason

I feel like they became victims to feature creep and not in a good way

[jovial bane]

I'd be shocked if an average person loved Gothic. That game was peak eurojank

[warped wren]

and yes, Fallout and ES glazing to me is incredibly stupid because the game that people seem to love is not one that the company designed, it's one that dozens if not hundreds of players modified to make 10x better and different

[placid yarrow]

Stoneshard enjoyers rise up

[warped wren]

and in general, I don't like playing modded

[jovial bane]

well you can always dive into Fallout

[warped wren]

if I need mods just to enjoy a game then that game sucks by design

[jovial bane]

as in

Fallout 1 and 2

[warped wren]

I did, didn't captivate me

[jovial bane]

fair enough

But yeah, Gothic will automatically filter out 95% of the players with control scheme

To attack you hold ctrl and press arrow keys

[placid yarrow]

hahaha

what

Oh what about the metro series?

last light and exodus are pretty solid imo

[jovial bane]

tried exodus, didn't like it that much

it wasn't bad, just not my cup of tea

[abstract karma]

what is so depressing about that ? just as other games with various control, you can get used on it

[desert jasper]

Got like 30min in to tli but got to sleep now
looking forward to playing more tomorrow

[twilit mountain]

Play Frogsong. Support the dev. Poor fella is struggling with extreme burnout despite their lifelong love of games and development. Give them money so they can have their rightfully earned break before they have to pick up a "normal" job for a while.

[placid yarrow]

okay but why isn't the frog hopping

[jovial bane]

I swear this eurojank game is the only reason why me and my bro tolerated playing Dark Souls 1 on M&K

[placid yarrow]

it's walking

[twilit mountain]

Hopping is a movement ability

[placid yarrow]

idk man

I feel like towards the end of the game you get found out as a rat or something

(I'm joking)

[twilit mountain]

We do not question Chorus' decision to walk, the critter just wants to be a guardian, let them try to protect people

Well. Protect frogs

[junior oyster]

Fallout nv is the best fallout game for me

[placid yarrow]

I wish I liked battle brothers more

Not having a grand goal in mind when you play kills games like that for me

[twilit mountain]

I wanted to back the kickstarter for Frogsong but it ended like, two weeks before I started my job at the time :(

[jovial bane]

pretty much the only acceptable 3D Fallout in some circles, but I think if you delve into "no mutants allowed" even that one is hated

Kind of similar with BG3, 95% of the people who really hate that game are serious grognards

[abstract karma]

is monk twister so OP to make jokes from it ? https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1th652z/league_start_be_like/

[warped wren]

PoE2 reddit is one of the lowest IQ zones on the internet

[fierce moth]

fingers crossed
(Derek will know what's that)

A bit hard to unwrap indeed...

[abstract karma]

what isnt these days..

[junior oyster]

I used to hate fallout games and thought 3d games were absolute trash till I played fnv.

I used to believe fo2 was the best fo game

[jovial bane]

what the hell wizards

so you are telling me all the "in universe rebranding" on arena with whole new arts, names and flavor texts was pointless ?

[twilit mountain]

Arena has had crossover sets for multiple years

[jovial bane]

It did, but Spiderman was the only set that had to be rebranded as "through the omenpaths"

And likely will be the only set to be ever rebranded

[twilit mountain]

My take is they should just throw all the Spider-Man art in as alternate options for free, why not

[jovial bane]

Now they will

I just wonder how much did it cost wizards to get a new license or license change on top of commissioning all that extra omenpaths art

Or why would the IP holder (Sony I believe ?) change their mind

[pine summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/1ti3h0o/here_comes_a_new_challenger_ingrids_monoid/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZVRKHjHFV0

(also sf6)

[warped wren]

ez no phase Geonor kill on Twisters, guess we test Monk tomorrow

[fierce moth]

The most funny and interesting detail I loved in poe 2 is polished... Seven hells... hhhhhhh more combats in arenas!

Always enjoy be surrounded by cheers and drums.

[sand wigeon]

and now you're aware the best fallout game is four!

[lethal bane]

WATER DELVE WATER DELVE WATER DELVE

[lethal bane]

What'd you run it on????

[warped wren]

Twisters

Was just testing spear levelling for a1

Kinda surprised how early Twisters come online

[lethal bane]

No I meant what starting class

[warped wren]

Huntress but that doesn't matter that much

Just a bit button-y if you want access to elemental ground, but you only really need that for big single target. And that also stops being button intensive once you unlock Ice-Tipped Arrows and get your first lesser jeweller

Or even without lesser jeweller for that matter

[lethal bane]

I was planning on Plant Oracle for leveling

Maybe I should consider Twister lmfao

[warped wren]

Never played plants, no idea how it compares

Honestly the easiest and most brainless levelling is grenades / LA/LR / minions

[opal anvil]

this is too much polygons for me

i cant imagine how to unwrap it properly

[opal anvil]

you kbm ds1 was the shit
with mouse cursor on top

[opal anvil]

woah
i'd play it more if it allowed saving/loading anytime

[placid yarrow]

Tbf i play it on perma nowadays so ironically thats not an issue anymore

[opal anvil]

haha thats fair

[placid yarrow]

Not that I'd want them to change the save system regardless tbh

Maybe have it as a third mode

[opal anvil]

i guess if i practiced more save system would be a non-issue 🤔

[sand wigeon]

Stoneshard is intended to be inherently punishing

The restricted save system is part of that design

Management games do it all the time too

[opal anvil]

i think it kinda punishes experimentation

kenshi is intended to be punishing too

but you can save and test some silly strats

rimworld allows that too

[sand wigeon]

Rimworld and Kenshi are sandbox games

Stoneshard is a dungeon crawler

They’re pretty inherently different games

[opal anvil]

i should give it a go again

downloaded rain world too

game review time :^)

[sand wigeon]

Both good games

[opal anvil]

seems like they improved save system since i played last time

[placid yarrow]

Its been updated a lot since you last played

World is a lot bigger and there's just more to it in general

[opal anvil]

things like this is what i dont like about such systems

lobotomy corporation is pretty generous with it's save system for what it's trying to do but having to replay day and just go through the motions again because i forgot to check ||train|| in the end of the day is tedious

it works well for action oriented games though

some runback in dark souls were just genuinely fun to optimize

and bosses were not hard enough so it didnt became tedious

[sand wigeon]

Did you say Lobotomy Corp?

Did you say

Prescript?

[opal anvil]

yes

[sand wigeon]

The Prescript demands I send you to the Ring

[fierce moth]

Less polygons now. Fingers crossed again

People whose have trypophobia will not play blender I guess

[opal anvil]

could you make one flower and copy paste it? that way you don't need to tweak UVs for every flower

only for one

[fierce moth]

🤔 Can't find the accurate position for the origin to mirror is an issue

[opal anvil]

you can set cursor to where you need and set origin to cursor

you mirror by one axis or several?

[fierce moth]

single axis

[opal anvil]

this should work then

to elaborate: "cursor to where you need" i meant "cursor to selected"

i dont remember shortcut but you can press f3 and type it there

[fierce moth]

alright, all uv unwrap stuff is done, back to creativity brainstorm

[fierce moth]

What a pro long list of responsibilities is...

Must be willing to be on camera including participating on livestreams and other public facing events
Willingness to travel in domestic and international

🤔 Remind me of a word, ambassador. EHG want to find someone can do marketing, communicating, promotion and know how to play loot-based ARPG well. This people will say hi to players in different places frequently. Requirements are quite comprehensive

it's like doing Foton's and Van's and Mitch's job together

80s maybe hard to fix... 70s is more suitable

But 70s maybe dislike travelling often. 80s willing to accept new places and new people more

(Plus, I hope this future ambassador knew a bit aesthetic)

[sudden anchor]

Imagine someone likes to do that, talking to strangers, etc. and they are getting paid to do it. A dream

[fierce moth]

Sure, you just need to be a CM before and show how are you love poe

poe is a standard in this game type...lol

But know how to speak and speak in a humour way to let strangers like you quickly is a hard thing too (Oh, this guy must like le so much too)

you can't promote a game well if you don't approve this game from heart

[warped wren]

Of course you can. It's called doing a job.

[fierce moth]

he will be a good actor if he can

I feel quite tired even just say a sentence

[warped wren]

@placid yarrow HOLY

[placid yarrow]

wudahell

sounds pretty pog

[warped wren]

Could potentially be insane

[placid yarrow]

Surprised they announced something so soon

kcd 2 has only been out for a little over a year

[desert jasper]

Open world? I sleep

[jovial bane]

notably Vavra is no longer at Warhorse, iirc he is now at CDPR ?

[fierce moth]

...Think how to act in public everyday isn't easy too

Maybe just need to like playing all types of games

[desert jasper]

Most people don't really need to think how to act in public

[fierce moth]

Alright, all type of games. lol I can't do that obviously

This ambassador will free to join in any game events like gamescom and GDC. What a honour.

[opal anvil]

yoo

[opal anvil]

hey thats me

[fierce moth]

lol another surprise at the end of e7.

Me: What?

Oh man all swordplay Arya learnt for months are... Be used today. Not today.

[lethal bane]

Hooooly shit

🙏 I'm hyped

[fierce moth]

I hope less solid mashed potatoes and more juicy minced beef here.

[obtuse rune]

Yessssssssss

Good color on it too

[desert jasper]

There's plenty of ground beef, onions, veggies under the mashed potatoes

[desert jasper]

Tbh it could've had a little bit more time in the oven
But it was good enough and I'm really hungry
also have to eat before 17:00 (16:34 atm)

[obtuse rune]

uh oh

May I ask what you put in it? We usually use like carrots, peas, ground turkey and such

[desert jasper]

But the taste is great

[obtuse rune]

What truly matters

[desert jasper]

Carrots, peas, ground pork / beef mix, some chili too, onions, garlic (garlic is a must)
also some mustard when I was frying the meat, gives it nice flavor

[fierce moth]

@lean fiber Do you find an ambassador?

Context is above

[desert jasper]

Would've also put in some stout but didn't have any
Think it would've given it a nice flavor boost

[obtuse rune]

If that is from a job listing, it isn't something that can be filled very easily

We sometimes pour gravy on the top or have some on the side

I really think I might make some next week

[desert jasper]

Can recommend

Tbh I was tempted to make proper gravy for this but probably wouldn't have had the time for it

[fierce moth]

No idea what Van want to say

[vagrant topaz]

Hachis parmentier ?

[desert jasper]

cottage pie

[vagrant topaz]

Oops didnt see you posted the recipe above

looks gorgeous

[vagrant topaz]

Even better if you ask me

[desert jasper]

It's very good
also googling hachis parmentier it sounds very similar to cottage pie

[vagrant topaz]

Yup, but with less veggies iirc

[fierce moth]

will it add cheese?

[desert jasper]

Not everything needs cheese

[vagrant topaz]

If I make it, always

[vagrant topaz]

I will not tolerate that kind of language

[desert jasper]

That's alright, you don't need to

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhh

[desert jasper]

But I do actually have cheese in the fridge this time
but it's for other recipes

[vagrant topaz]

Everything is better with cheese

[jovial bane]

and tomatoes

[vagrant topaz]

You just need to find the right one for the right use

[jovial bane]

I absolutely love hachis parmentier, but if I wanted more veggies I would just add soffritto, so onion, carrot and celery stalk to the tomato sauce

[fallow kernel]

should still be an option

[fierce moth]

Cheese for Europeans as same as soy sauce for Chinese

[jovial bane]

pretty much, yes

[vagrant topaz]

I love soy sauce, I add it everywhere too

[jovial bane]

modern roman way heh

they've added garum to everything

literally everything

[fierce moth]

Time for me to say that then... Not everything needs soy sauce

[desert jasper]

But it does

[vagrant topaz]

garum ?

[jovial bane]

roman fermented fish sauce

[vagrant topaz]

👍

[jovial bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZww0DtQKk

really cool video on even cooler channel

[desert jasper]

Oh yea, that guy is cool

[jovial bane]

best marketing money ever spent, creative assembly had some leftover marketing money for rome 2 total war

so they've sponsored the roman food videos

😄

[desert jasper]

🤤

[jovial bane]

that's how I've learned about the channel

[obtuse rune]

I love cheese and I love sauces

[fierce moth]

Garum sauce is the soul of Chicken Basil Rice I'll say

[obtuse rune]

but that doesn't mean I need to eat them all the time I wish I could lol

[desert jasper]

How about cheesy sauces

[obtuse rune]

YES.

Sauces are my biggest weakness

[jovial bane]

I love cheesy sauces, but I also love grated cheese so much I feel bad making them

😅

[desert jasper]

Lemme write that up in my notebook of people's weaknesses

[obtuse rune]

Go right ahead

[fierce moth]

I'm honoured by I learnt to grate cheese on my pasta

[obtuse rune]

Grated cheeses are good but im sometimes too lazy or dont have it

Aaah yes, grate it all

[jovial bane]

one NPC from divinity OS1 lives in my head rent free, or rather his quote

"None is happer than a man with many cheeses !"

xD

[fierce moth]

Enjoy the progress quite much and I don't need to think how to bring suitable salinity to my pasta. Just grate some Chedder cheese. But if I cook it with Chinese sauce... I must balance the sauce to not too salty but keep enough...

usami? How to spell that word?

[jovial bane]

umami

[fierce moth]

Cheesy or umami.

[jovial bane]

pecorino romano, my fav cheese is so salty I need to be careful with salt 😅

[obtuse rune]

Quite true

[fierce moth]

so you just eat something without sauces?

[obtuse rune]

Well just not always with cheese but other sauces like Marinara

[fierce moth]

Oh like that? It's my choice for pasta sauce always, too. Marinara can with cheddar cheese. The weakness of this sauce is it's not quite salty through I grated plenty of cheese

[obtuse rune]

Yes like this one

We "doctor" it up by adding to sauces sometime too

[jovial bane]

btw onion is not even neccessary

garlic, tomatoes, basil is enough

very simple, but tasty sauce 😄

[fierce moth]

Oh that's not call marinara...

Anyways, Italian's stuff

Oh, different words but the same brand

[fierce moth]

Will you play puzzle games?

[opal anvil]

there is rarely a game i don't like

[fierce moth]

Cool, it's just release, tonight is a puzzle's night 🤔

[opal anvil]

two off the top of my head are gnarltoof revenge and oldschool runescape (even tho this one is kinda fun with a friend)

[opal anvil]

amanita desisgn!!!

it reminded me of machinarium

[fierce moth]

yes

[opal anvil]

i see there is a demo

[fierce moth]

I purchased the game

Demo is too short

I like wiggle animations with blurry and simple graphics always

[lethal bane]

Oh that's a great looking menu

[warped wren]

Wow qstaff start is the most awful thing I've experienced in this game

Like wow

[lethal bane]

Why?

[warped wren]

All the skills are awful

And you're in melee with 0 defense

Blowing up Ice Crystal from Frozen Locus is your best choice for reliable damage

Only problem is, the crystal is kinda small and is deprioritized when it comes to player targeting

If you use Glacial Cascade, which is what Alwheezy tested, the cone is super narrow and you need to be precise and you need to hit the crystal with the 3rd attack to blow it up, and the skill has an AS penalty

[lethal bane]

I debated going quarterstaff for leveling, but I might just play on a budgeted Oracle's COC

[warped wren]

If you use basic attack, which is what I'm doing, the skill is faster and hits harder but because of that targeting issue, it's not exactly reliable to hit it

[lethal bane]

Oh, I remember trying Glacial Cascade, it takes some stuff to get going

[warped wren]

Small mercy that enemies also target the crystal so that helps

The damage is there, it's just giga annoying

[lethal bane]

Are you on gamepad or KBM?

[warped wren]

Kbm

There is actually zero reason for ice strike to not be a lv 1 skill

[lethal bane]

What level is it again?

[abstract karma]

a lof ot references says thay using hollow pawn or how it was that key node to acts

[lethal bane]

I'd have to see it again, lottsa folk seem keen on monk this league

[abstract karma]

well 2-3 bows, one ice spear and with current new update on monk ofc i will try skills with quaterstaff
new class looks also interesting tho most of it more about slots for buff rather than some heavy chances to class except that channelling switch Hollow Form
(these gloves buffs also seems interesting, especially if you think something about that Hollow palm)
Hollow Focus also looks interesting but i think there will some catch

[lofty wren]

pretty sure most people level monk with bow until you unlock ice strike, they rly need to improve the early leveling experience for other weapon types

[warped wren]

yep, just logged off after experiencing Red Vale and Grim Tangle

it's genuinely dogshit

absolutely not worth putting your balls in the grinder with this

[fierce moth]

win 7 pc still exist? I'm surprised

I have used win xp, 10 and 11 only

[warped wren]

imagine you're a new player playing melee instead of one of the top players in the game, and the first rare mob you encounter in this game has lightning mirage + evasive on it: https://youtu.be/ER7l85Ien0A?si=_tfKZfg0JsIiFb0M

AND it teleports around to boot

incredibly toxic design

[opal anvil]

dude lightning mirage is so ass

hard to dodge + giga damage

only lightning totems is worse

i was doing ignite prolif build in poe1 and first few rares had fire res

[warped wren]

ignite prolif from lv 1?

[opal anvil]

kinda
i switched prolif on and off during levelling

[warped wren]

what skill allows you to do ignite prolif from level 1. How do you even get the ignite chance

[opal anvil]

fireball has 25%

[warped wren]

so you're basically praying, got it

[opal anvil]

yeah

i shortly switched to rolling magma and often couldnt decide whether i use prolif support or something for damage

[warped wren]

if you're seriously linking prolif support on rolling magma in early game, you do not know enough about this game to be cooking your own build / levelling without accepting that it will suck ass

[opal anvil]

it did turn out well in the end tho

i was learning as i played :^)

[lethal bane]

I'm looking at different stuff and I might just drop CoC and either run Plant Oracle or Shield Wall Oracle

Both level easy enough and can map well

[warped wren]

Plant Oracle is pretty smooth and strong from everything I've seen. A friend in Ducks' discord was playing it and he had a pretty smooth power curve

starts good, stays good

another played Plant Disciple of Varashta, that was good too

[lethal bane]

Dope, I'll do that then. I ended last league as Shield Wall and I wanna switch it up

[opal anvil]

do those builds use plants as in 🌱 ?

[warped wren]

plant skills

[opal anvil]

were they added with druid? 🤔

[warped wren]

yes

[lethal bane]

They have some strong nodes too AFAIK

[warped wren]

main is that keystone that basically everyone takes

meaningful choice™

[lethal bane]

Yeah, it's insnae

[opal anvil]

@sand wigeon @twilit mountain btw guys i tried rain world. it feels big and mysterious, i like it

some popping bug launched me into a pipe mimic 10/10

[lethal bane]

I tried Rain World a while back, it's a fascinating game. I just wasn't in the mood for it at the time

I want to give it a more meaningful go sometime

[opal anvil]

how main character feels reminded me of loco roco

[lethal bane]

I can definitely see that

[fierce moth]

Roco kingdom

Do you like paper girls and cute girls like characters in Chinese mobile games?
Gen...What impact, identity 5, roco kingdom etc

Alright I know Chinese games rarely because most of them are mobile games

Oh wuthering waves is one of games represent this art style too

...No idea how these games become money machines at all because I don't gotcha

[lofty wren]

People are addicted to gambling and gacha games exploit this

[real kayak]

I'm having fun with Farever, worth 17 bucks imo.

feels like wow + zelda

[lofty wren]

I was looking at that last night, it seemed okay

[warped wren]

psychological manipulation to get people addicted to gambling

should be illegal but money

[real kayak]

it's fun, solo and group dungeons, open world with exploration, professions etc

[lofty wren]

One review I saw said it has a really bad hacking issue and that they're adding a market to the game soon which.. sounds like a bad idea

[real kayak]

yea it's definitely still alpha status game

fun for now and has potential

[lofty wren]

What kind of combat system? The usual mmo tab target?

[real kayak]

no avtiva combat, dodging, combos. both class skills and weapon skills, so combat style depends on your weapon type and it's baked in skills

active combat

[lofty wren]

Ooh I might actually try it then

[real kayak]

its very cozy / chill, I like it so far. has the zelda hang glider too, and a lot of jumping puzzles

[lofty wren]

I'll put it on the lost of things to try, I'm probably gonna try far far west when I get home tho

[abstract karma]

then never play mmorpg because these days Dark patterns are overhelming 😄

[warped wren]

I haven't played an MMORPG since I was 15, unless you count Warframe. It was bad even then, it's gotten worse over the years, and I don't need that shit in my life.

[lofty wren]

We must not have played the same Warframe cus what

[warped wren]

Yeah i mean idk I just played it maybe 100 hrs, some people claim it's an MMO but some don't, I have no idea and I'm not that invested

[lofty wren]

I don't consider it one rly

It's like am mmo lite at best

There are some open world areas where you can run into players but pretty much the entire game is designed for solo play with multi-player being optional

[opal anvil]

i like warframe overall but some of the grinds are VERY BAD

[lofty wren]

Well I do think primes being easier to farm than normal frames is hilarious

[opal anvil]

it is

staring at equinox

[opal anvil]

noooo

[lofty wren]

But you can easily farm up platinum for free if you want to skip a grind so I don't see it as an issue

[opal anvil]

i dont think platinum farm is that engaging
but also i didn't follow game lately
mostly it was: buy unranked prime mods (endo farm), sell ranked; arcanes; syndicate stuffs (farms itself tbf); prime stuffs; rivens (study economics or get lucky ezpz)
those all are pretty boring
i guess relic cracking is ok but it needs a party and i don't like coordination aspect :^)

[lofty wren]

I just take Gaara into relic defense lol

No coordination needed

[opal anvil]

oh, i meant to target farm something

as a chill farm yeah relic is the way

[jovial bane]

Half a year ago I've filled a small 10l oaken barrel with homemade wine for aging, I've checked it and 3 liters were gone

All went into the wood, or spilled through the gaps

[opal anvil]

sorry it was me 😔

[jovial bane]

Oh, bottles are smaller. Nevermind, just 1.8l

That's less crazy

Water is apparently thicker than wine, that's why despite sealing the barrel it happens. But it's still crazy to see the difference irl

[sand wigeon]

this is why seasoned barrels leak less

they’ve already absorbed tons of wine and each board has slightly expanded, sealing the gaps

[jovial bane]

yup
Thankfully the next time they should be at least slightly seasoned

[sand wigeon]

yeah

what kind of wine are you making?

[fierce moth]

🤔 It just get an update, s2 is live

No idea why I no power on the gameplay that collect more pets and use them to fight. But the story is quite childish because it's a 12+ game. It's fine when I played that while I'm 12 but it's not my tea anymore after I grew up

When Americans are busy at rule a land by dragons and weapons, Chinese are immersed in showing which pose they got and how cool their pet are

The game is a currency for socializing more than deep in gameplay to figure out how to use that the best

(I have to remind myself don't jump in this trap often, too)

[sand wigeon]

kirra what did any of that mean

none of that made sense in english

[fierce moth]

oh sorry, the language system of this crane maybe has a bug. We're investigating that and hope a fix will coming soon.

[sand wigeon]

it’s called not knowing english

[fierce moth]

Not know how to use a tool? Well, it happens.

I wonder how to prove I know English without taking any exams too

Maybe it's a tool to get beautiful scores of exams for many people only. I used that to build the other world, a space have fun and sweetness only

https://www.ggac.com/contest/mlbb/challenge?lang=en_GB
The min prize is... 1000USD... Seven hells

(it show how insane the power of making money from a mobile game company again)

I guess it's the peak of character design... I mean skins.

[sand wigeon]

speaking english cohesively and fluently, kirra.

which you don't and can't do

you do not know english

[jovial bane]

semi-dry red

[sand wigeon]

sounds delicious

i’m a big pinot grigio person but a nice dry red can go well with a lot of food

useful for cooking too

[opal anvil]

i meant loco roco the yellow ball guy

[fierce moth]

Oh...You mean SPEAK English.
Make sense

Sorry the language system have a bit delay sometimes hhhhhh

I still don't figure out what happened from 9 to 10 through my paper is tortured by me like that 😅

[fierce moth]

Ok...To speak English, the first step is I need accept my voice and my face...

I think video meeting is a torture because they will listen and see me face-to-face lol

[sand wigeon]

no, you cannot even converse properly in english through text

you are barely comprehensible 99% of the time and everyone can peg you as not knowing it well at all

[desert jasper]

Yeah, there's a clear language barrier that makes it painfully obvious that you don't understand a lot of concepts or even words
And the communication from you isn't very clear either
it could be because you're thinking in chinese and putting those words to English without caring about the structure of the sentence (or not knowing how to put it in English proper)

[sand wigeon]

like, there are paths to properly learning english

but you refuse to take them

[junior oyster]

I'm glad we can turn off autodub on youtube now. I'm pretty sure we couldn't turn it off before.

[desert jasper]

Youtube has autodub?

[junior oyster]

On some videos yea

[desert jasper]

Tbh I already hated the auto translated titles
So I always just swap my youtube to English when I log in from a new machine

[junior oyster]

Yea now you can turn it off

[fierce moth]

Hah? What had I refused?

[sand wigeon]

paying for online tutors? getting a job to pay for that? even utilizing free websites to learn?

etc

you generally refuse to take any route that could improve your life because you’re committed to unrealistic ideas of being hired in overseas game studios that speak english when you don’t even speak their language

[lethal bane]

A few days ago you had an interaction with Sar about the nature of your online interactions and general disinterest in genuinely engaging others. Mostly it seems you think of others as "NPCs" and presume everyone else surely must think this way too. It's very short sighted and self-centered view of the world. You wanna work on your reading and writing? Read English books or comics. Watch more shows and practice more with people

You have to do something. You want to be a desirable candidate but nothing I've seen stands out

You cannot escape the effort needed to improve and the necessary work to prove you are capable

[sand wigeon]

thank you for putting into words what i could not, boru

[fierce moth]

You want to say don't hesitate to do anything for keeping going, I see

[sand wigeon]

no because what does that mean

[lethal bane]

Ty!

[fierce moth]

On the other side, that's why I interested in watching the house of cards, game of thrones and Lego masters

[lethal bane]

What I am saying is that you must be intentional with your effort. What does that mean? It means directing that effort into something planned or something that will help you over time. Picking up a book forced you to do several things: longer focus time, reading different styles of grammar, and engaging the book to understand it

You can watch the shows, they can help your pronounciation well enough. But do not neglect reading and writing and speaking

Those three things are active as opposed to watching, which is normally very passive

[fierce moth]

Yes I forced myself to do anything improve myself every month by upgrading monthly progress

Nothing I can show if I did nothing

[sand wigeon]

for reference, these are the things i've had the most issue with in regards to learning french. i don't have any real way to reach the point where i can converse, and given where i live and my limited options other active options aren't necessarily available, so what i need is a proper tutor. which you could also get

[lethal bane]

Immersive learning is huge, but can be hard to get into without a community or necessity

[fierce moth]

I tried immersive learning for blender, the first step was quite steep but I'm glad that I still learning

I thought I never will know how to do uv unwrap before hhhh

I joined 2 blender servers to ask questions so I can go forward smoothly

Not sure is it worth to spent 6h on getting how to use bezier curves...Time will tell

[sand wigeon]

see how this isn't related at all to what boru is talking about, and you've entirely ignored his actual message?

[fierce moth]

I'm following Boru's logic to say my words

[lethal bane]

No, you're not

English Language Immersion is when you are in a space that primarily focuses on English, thus forcing you to practice and engage with it constantly. It captures every moment, not the one just when you're working with Blender

They use this technique for school kids, helps them acclimate and make friends here. My area is very diverse, so it already has a precedent here socially. Kids help each other learn and practice in school

[fierce moth]

Oh I see where the gap is. My words are based on I want to work in a game studio as a 3d environment artist. Your suggestions about how to jump in a immersive learning for English are solid

Learning blender and learning English are different things for sure

[lethal bane]

Yeah, you want to work in a game studio. You must be able to communicate fluently

[sand wigeon]

kirra this isn't about blender

[lethal bane]

This is a prerequisite for your goals

[fierce moth]

My understanding is think everything in English instead of Chinese before I speak something. That is definition of English's logic for me. Know how to ask questions without confusion is what I'm learning

The benefit of English tv shows is teach me which words should I use

[placid yarrow]

Personally I do think getting to a point where you can start thinking in a language is a massive step forward since after that point you can immerse yourself fully into that language and learn things a lot more through experience rather than knowledge. Imo learning grammatical rules and stuff for other languages through things like textbooks and courses is way, way harder than just interacting with others that already know the language and basically imitating them. Which is a lot harder to do if you can't think in the language since you're constantly forced to translate things in your head and it's not easy to intuit a translation between vastly different languages, which is why if you can think in the language in the first place it starts becoming a lot more intuitive.

Btw i think your English has improved a lot since you first joined this server.

[sand wigeon]

btw if anyone has good resources for learning french @ me

[fierce moth]

Different languages have their slangs and idioms, which is hardest part because maybe your native language don't have corresponding histories or context.

[placid yarrow]

True, which is another reason why having to translate between two languages in your head sucks

[fierce moth]

Then is films, tv shows and animations you saw in your young age

[lethal bane]

This is why you must be proactive

Ask questions, listen to others

[placid yarrow]

When you hear an idiom, it's a lot better if you could ask the meaning behind it instead of trying to translate it and understand it in your native language

Since most likely it won't make any sense in your native language

And honestly a lot of idioms don't make any sense in their own language either, it's just inherited meaning pretty much, same goes for slang

[lethal bane]

Yeah, some translations are harder than others. In Decolonizing Methodologies the author talks about conceptions of space and time, where these concepts are not distinct or always inherent

[placid yarrow]

Like in Swedish aina is slang for police, but the word for police is polis. And aina has no other real meaning in Swedish

So it's not a play on words or anything

There's literally no way for you to draw meaning out of it outside of asking someone who knows the slang what it means

[lethal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/auuuuuuhhhh-aaaaaaa-gif-23131850

[twilit mountain]

sorta similar to English using the word cops for police, but not quite. It does have connection to the verb cop, but there's a long held myth about it being related to old copper badges. But nah, just... y'know. They cop you. So cops became slang for them despite it being a rather loose usage of the verb.

[fierce moth]

we call cops as cops, that's all

I touched polices once time only and that's when I'm unconscious

Poor Sansa.

Each man have a role to play? I hope so.

[desert jasper]

meanwhile in finnish aina means always

[maiden widget]

sometimes they dont even take your OS setting, they autodubbed into german for me all the time and it was brutally bad think taskmaster task about launching frozen peas turning into frozen urine and stuff like that. But hey surely we non english speakers need the autodub so we can finally understand english content better 🙂

[desert jasper]

For me it was just using the language that youtube was using
but it did lead to a lot of interesting choises for words

[maiden widget]

the app i use on my android stick is english, the stick is english and youtube defaulted to german dubs

funnily enough i found a way to set it up to be english, now it sometimes autodubs german

why can't they just ask me or tell me that there's an option for it instead of forcing me to endure their slop

[desert jasper]

Ah yea, I don't even use the youtube app on my phone

[warped wren]

W40K fans eating good this year

New class in Darktide, DoW4 confirmed Sep 17 release, SM2 receiving another new operation and a bunch of updates

Even the losers in Helldivers getting a 40k themed warbond

[mental talon]

The new Chris Wilson video is actually so hilariously timed ngl

[jovial bane]

seems that Destiny 2 is going on life support

[desert jasper]

Yeah

Oh yea, I should actually listen to the Jonathan Rogers interview

[opal anvil]

wow dow4 is so soon

[jovial bane]

oh damn, Mechanicus 2 is out :d

[warped wren]

Adeptus Mechanicus is one of my least favorite factions

Even so, still hyped about playing Skitarii

[jade jackal]

Amazing timing

[warped wren]

f***ing FINALLY killed a Mime in E33

stupid things

[opal anvil]

lmao

mime op

[fierce moth]

Welcome back

I enjoy witness something happens, whichever good or not, they will become histories at the end. Be background is my comfort zone and my end, it always be

Damn it's a huge strike. Khalessi will...||Lose her husband?|| It's quite unfortunately :(

[fierce moth]

It's an epic and emotional scene worth to be record.

[warped wren]

Chris with impeccable timing as usual

[mental talon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3932540

[old coral]

@kind salmon

[lethal bane]

Fortifying Cry got hit!

Shield Wall's shotgun got hit but not CoC

Once again punished for being melee

[real charm]

@kind salmon patch notes up man

[glacial frost]

@kind salmon Wakey Wakey,

[opal anvil]

earthquake buff

[lethal bane]

The Rolling Slam change is interesting

Not gonna play it

[warped wren]

the entire non-Atlas related section of the patchnotes reads like a trainwreck

[lethal bane]

Shield Wall got Old Yeller'd

IDK how to feel about leech

They switched up Vaal Bloodpact

What other spots for instant leech are there?

[warped wren]

now? none

idk man, feels like a massive L on many of the non-Atlas and campaign related changes

[lethal bane]

I'm going to close my eyes and trust the vision

Just shutting them real tight

If they kept the leech as one leech at a time but added ways to adjust it then that'd be interesting, change up the formula some

[warped wren]

it's now strongest leech at a time, capped at 40k damage hits, and leech % is more easily available and enemies have lower leech resist

but no more instant leech, and overleech is locked to Vaal Pact

[opal anvil]

dam they did the poe2 thing again

not the density 😢

[jovial bane]

so the usual 😫

[junior oyster]

But we get more exp/loot right???

[fierce moth]

destiny 2 will release the last update on 06/09/2026
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/d2_may_21_2026

[opal anvil]

and most importantly, more FUN 😁 😁 😁

[abstract karma]

huh.. why i have feeling this will nerf a lot of not known skills which even used that

[warped wren]

primarily intended to gut Rend's screenwide clear with its autoattack+. Ofc it also screws over Wolf and many Mace skills xdd

[abstract karma]

Even Freezing Salvo

Ice bow will have harder times

while ice strike got buffed

[warped wren]

that's not a buff lmfao. And Ice Bow will be fine, bows are still one of the best archetypes in the game.

[abstract karma]

Last interesting node for me, rest i let more exp to dig out info

[twilit mountain]

Oh wow, who could have ever seen this coming. Never before has there been precedent for GGG to put out a completely dogshit patch for this game especially after intentionally drumming up as much hype as they possible can

[desert jasper]

🤔

Well, those patch notes weren't uhh
looking that great

[twilit mountain]

Isn't it awesome? Nerfs basically across the board! But hey, about 30% more armor and evasion in midgame!

And of course the GGG special of "You Will Play This How We SAY You Will"

[desert jasper]

Yup
Ah well

At least it's not 0.2 again

[twilit mountain]

They basically deleted reduced duration builds from the game lol

Gods forbid your build be good for its multi-hundred divine buy-in

[desert jasper]

oh I don't like that

[twilit mountain]

They also made the funny overroll vaal outcome based on the current stats instead fo rolling the stats and then applying the multiplier, and they removed omen of corruption

Lmao

[desert jasper]

Yeah, saw that

[fierce moth]

I can't afford the ending of e9. That's too sad. Too disappointing... No one can stop that. Why...

But more punishments for his elder daughter obviously...Tool cruel

[desert jasper]

Also why remove recomb 🤔

[narrow token]

Because fun isn't allowed this time around.

[fierce moth]

I feel quite complex about the story of got. Every storyline is complex. Full of upset, power, blood, strategy and choices.

This type of complex is quite realistic...And closed

[fierce moth]

Snow's life on the wall is the best one unexpectedly after all storylines are developed for a while, it's interesting... ||You'll not be obey by the new king, see your father die infront of you or must kill your husband as the ending||, at least

Update: Oh. Blood of my blood. Appreciate that.

[junior oyster]

D2 outlived d2 👀

[maiden widget]

Good games live forever

[opal anvil]

wait what
time of need nerf?

[twilit mountain]

I think the only skills that people used in reduced duration builds that survived were the damage skills; Time of Need is in the ground, as is Ghost Dance, meaning you now have to survive off leech/regen alone and no longer get to have curse and ailment defense consistently.

Those two scale off cooldown now. Good luck.

[opal anvil]

i see

and i was happy yesterday about earthquake buff

was using time of need on that build

[junior oyster]

The fact that Destiny 2 even got shortened to D2 was a blasphemy ||I'm just messing please don't hate me lol||

[junior oyster]

Nob is back in slay the spire x2 🤣

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2868840/view/670617878982033685

[jovial bane]

off leech ? the leech that also was nerfed into the ground ? I swear GGG has the blizzard approach of "we've fixed the issue with players having fun in the game"

[abstract karma]

Nexon version of Lost Ark ? https://store.steampowered.com/app/3767660/Embers_of_the_Uncrowned/

[lofty wren]

leech is complete trash now so xd

[warped wren]

Eh, leech is still gonna be useful and mandatory and will feel alright in most instances

It just won't be constantly topping up your whole HP bar every second because you're pumping out so much damage

Which, I guess, was the intent

[jovial bane]

That's true.
It was nerfed, but not bordeline deleted like time of need

[opal anvil]

did life recovery per second from leech have a cap in poe2?

[warped wren]

No

Which was kinda the issue

[opal anvil]

i feel like cap recovery would be a better solution than what they did

[warped wren]

That's basically what they did

They just capped the damage that can leech, instead of the leech itself

If, for example, you're a Bloodmage with the 20% leech node and you hit that damage cap, you're leeching 8k hp/sec which is lmao

So I think leech will be fine for the most part

[opal anvil]

ohh

wait thats not that bad then

[warped wren]

And they reduced leech resist on mobs

[warped wren]

Correct

[jovial bane]

only one leech however is a bit concerning, because Acolyte can get either mana or hp leech iirc

I have no issue with health and es leech being exclusive, but mana ? cmon

[warped wren]

That's only strongest leech instance. It would apply independently to hp and mana i think

Because if you have both % leech as hp and mana, if it were limited to only 1 of any, how would it even prioritize which to apply lol

[jovial bane]

good question

maybe I've read it wrong lol

[mental talon]

This is correct.

[jovial bane]

phew

[warped wren]

Kinda absurd how hard shield skills, wolf and wyvern got hit, while Comet received a lovetap and CoC interaction is completely unchanged

I get that this wasn't supposed to be a big balance pass, but gutting already mid or underpowered skills while barely even glancing at the actual OP nonsense is certainly a choice

[lethal bane]

Shield Wall had a super high floor for the build, amazing budget option

I'm eyeballing some recoup stuff but I'd like to see the changes directly more and where they'd be

[warped wren]

there's no realm where recoup is better than leech even now

unless you're Chrono maybe

[lethal bane]

CoC got hit by tye leech changes, no?

[desert jasper]

I'm kinda thinking going deadeye grenades

[warped wren]

again, with the kind of damage you can deal, that is really going to be a non issue

[warped wren]

bomba always good

I think I'm probably just gonna start Ducks' grenade WH, I don't wanna compete with fubgooners and metacucks for spears

[desert jasper]

Was watching dreadful play some earlier
the start was a little rough but got a lot better after first ascendancy
and then at like 36 got another big boost

[warped wren]

dunno, I've seen Ducks stream from fresh start, you just start bombing from the get go

late game you clear trash with Explosive Shot and use bombas for rares and bosses

[desert jasper]

There's the cooldown on them + the detonation time
I wonder how early you can get the new grenade bases

oh and I guess mana cost early too?

[warped wren]

spam 2 gameplay

xdd

[junior oyster]

Honestly I might try the demo out. Game seems pretty decent?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3090810/Truckful/

[twilit mountain]

What CoC has reliable mana leech?

[warped wren]

sorry I made the assumption of it being Bloodmage

[twilit mountain]

The limiter on CoC builds in PoE2 is access to mana upkeep and the actual crit chance itself, we don't really do attack skills to proc the cast like we do in 1 (because it sucks in this game)

You're basically hardlocked into remnants, and that is ultimately going to feel kinda rough if you can't reduce the cost enough

[warped wren]

remnants, mana on kill nodes and jewels

and uhh what else

[twilit mountain]

I do not count mana on kill, I don't make "mapper exclusive builds"

[warped wren]

Arcane Surge? Lavianga's? lul

[twilit mountain]

If the build isn't fully functional in a single target boss environment it's a shit build in my eyes

[twilit mountain]

Lavianga is expensive for a reason at overroll values (they really need to just redo mana cost scaling and give us mana regen that isn't exclusively % increased)

[warped wren]

yeah I mean, every single boss showcase I've seen of any CoC Comet build, no boss survives long enough for mana to be an issue and a 20% nerf on comet is unlikely to change that lol

[warped wren]

yeah

mana management is just shit in general

[twilit mountain]

They're so worried about people being too strong they forgot to make the game not be torturous on every micro level

[desert jasper]

But no fun allowed

As you know

[junior oyster]

Ok I had a good laugh from this xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUNFJTO1JE0

[lethal bane]

We must nerf melee again

We have no choice

[warped wren]

can't post my favorite sticker here

let me just post it on the other server

[junior oyster]

Screenshot it and post it?

Snip or w/e it's called oh well

[warped wren]

duh, good call

[junior oyster]

I had a feeling you would post that

[lethal bane]

It's what I saw seconds before I got done in by the hammer

[warped wren]

no sticker has so thoroughly encapsulated a game as that one

[lethal bane]

There's some Phys Damage Prevented turned into Recoup, I remember liking it in PoE1 on Jugg. I wouldn't mind if that was a viable sustain option in the game. I lowkey like the leech changes cause it'll at least open up potentially different sustain options in it rather than it just being the go-to. That said, I wish they added that stuff now as they changed it lmfao

[warped wren]

I'd urge you to read Recoup in PoE2 and compare it to PoE1

[lethal bane]

No. I am a gamer

I don't read

[warped wren]

based

[lethal bane]

The sites aren't working lmfaooo

So I can't anyways

[twilit mountain]

Long explanation short, it takes at minimum double the time to recoup an equal amount in PoE2 compared to PoE1

[lethal bane]

Ooooh, they should fix that

Someone send me GGG's phone number. Patch that up real quick

[twilit mountain]

It's intended :(

[lethal bane]

I'm going to close my eyes, Deias. I am going to pretend I didn't read that

[twilit mountain]

I'm like 90% sure that most recoup sources in 2 are also noticeably smaller. Also I am pretty sure we don't have Divine Shield? So armor stack ES + recoup is a bit cooked

[lethal bane]

They're usually around 3-5%

There's a few nodes. Two prevented sources, one for ES and the other for life. The rest are off damage taken

[twilit mountain]

Lmao yeah that's awful, you can get gnarly amounts of recoup on tree in 1 not to mention rares can have toooons

[lethal bane]

Yeah, if they added that it'd feel way better

The time for recoup is what? 8 seconds? I assume it stacks at least

Lemme double check

8 seconds

Scarred Faith scales the 5% per enemy power

[twilit mountain]

No silly Legion armor that gives you a billion recoup either 😔

[lethal bane]

It does stack though, right?

[twilit mountain]

I'm at 13 hours awake off the most jacked up "night" of sleep I've had in like 5 months. I have no idea right now.

[lethal bane]

It seems to stack

The 5% of Physical Damage prevented Recouped as ES per Enemy Power might be OK?

No, it's still not looking great. Unless they add a lot more nicer stuff in the 9 passives they're adding it'd feel pretty weak

There's not many nodes I'm seeing as is that helps the rate of it?

[fierce moth]

...Maybe you just need orbs in fact
Discord orbs can exchange 3-day free nitro so you can write longer. 1400 orbs per time. I have used a few 1400 orbs to write longer while I want to ask the whole story 🤔
Of course, if you're a USD-based user, nevermind that.

USD price is too expensive for me.

The pity is watch a video quests which can win 700 orbs not available anymore...My speed of stacking orbs slower a lot because of that. You have to download the game and run it 15 mins if you want 700 orbs per quest and poor choices for this type of quests currently

[lethal bane]

What?

[neon sigil]

👀 still drawing. but modding too.

[warped wren]

How have you not ignored her random spam yet

[lethal bane]

I do for the most part

[desert jasper]

She was responding to someone in General
and originally posted it in general
I said that it's not really stuff for general so she posted it here instead

[lethal bane]

What is this about orbs?

What are orbs?

[desert jasper]

Discord stuff

Like you've the "quests" (play this game, watch this video and so on) and you get set amount
and you can exchange those orbs for some cosmetics or something on discord

I don't know, don't care

[lethal bane]

Oh, that sounds unpleasant