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[twilit mountain]

Insisting that anything like that is bait is a terrible way to live

[silent steeple]

Funny u should say that cuz the last time I shared MY opinion abt something, u absolutely lost it 😂

Funnily still, me refraining from not sharing something is also something u find terrible

[indigo shadow]

Deias, here's my avatar

[twilit mountain]

Homie, I don't even know who you are 👍

[silent steeple]

And there it is 😂

[sudden anchor]

It was genuine at first, but I'm used to be seen as a troll, so sometimes I entertain that idea for fun.

[indigo shadow]

I'm more malicious than a troll TBH

[twilit mountain]

I find the axe being so tiny in his hands incredibly funny

[indigo shadow]

That's actually not He-Man as in Prince Adam He-Man

That's his savage ancestor

[silent steeple]

Mb! But i wanna clear up, i didnt consider ur ask as a troll question. I just didnt wanna share my thoughts here u know what i mean

[twilit mountain]

Huh. Funky. I'm not gonna pretend to know He-man lore very well, I haven't seen a ton of the franchise myself. Mostly just some of the original series as a result of my father being a fan.

[sudden anchor]

Aslong as you didn't mean it for evil, it's okay. So it must be.

[silent steeple]

But u too should consider reading Dune

Or get yourself into warhammer lore for some motivation 😂

[sudden anchor]

Yea, but I have seen the dune movies before, which were good to me. I know the books are probably better, but atm I have my eyes on other books, like Manifold: Space. It's, from what I've heard, a scientifically accurate book and I had so much fun with Stephen Hawkins "A story about time" or something, also a huge sci-fi space time.

[silent steeple]

I'll be honest I haven't read that one yet

Heard of it tho

Also about dune movies and the books, I highly doubt they could cover the entirety of it in movies no matter how rushed or compressed the story is unless they do what marvel studios did and made it a decade long project

[sudden anchor]

Actually, I'm shopping for books at this moment - any more recommendations? I also like books like Divine Comedy. It feels like I am productive while reading it 🤣

[silent steeple]

Hmm anything else u like?

So I can be sure of what im recommending

[sudden anchor]

silmarillion, siddhartha

[silent steeple]

I was gonna suggest Silmarillion 😂

Its The classic

And there's Beowulf too

[sudden anchor]

Haha. It was a must read for me with a older sister that went crazy on lotr, even before the movies. I sadly didn't see the movies in cinema back then, I don't remember why. That must have been epic for fans. Thanks for the recommendation, I will take a look at Beowulf, I remember hearing about it.

[sand wigeon]

The Mastery of Self

S.

1984

sacred and terrible air

[sudden anchor]

I wanted to shop at this merchant on amazon for used books. Since I already gonna order one, I thought I could save a bit on shipment and packaging, but they want full price sadly. I remember there was an option you could manually activate on amazon to only have one package. Maybe I must find that one.

[maiden widget]

Pratchet small gods is pretty cool imo

[warped wren]

Pratchett is amazing

Top tier satire

Especially relevant in 2026

[warped wren]

This is going to be a very niche and esoteric recommendation, but you should consider The Mahabharata

[sand wigeon]

no read Sacred and Terrible Air you fakers

[maiden widget]

Night watch by pratchett has never been more relevant imo

But it's a bit shit to start mid series so I went with small gods

[warped wren]

I think Discworld novels work fine standalone

Because their linkages are kinda not the point, though they're fun if you know them

[sudden anchor]

Amazing recommendations! I see some bookworms in here 😄 We have some old phone cells loaded with free, used books in the city. It's gonna be so cool, when I scan through these and encounter a title I remember from this conversation. It will not just be the moment of finding a good book, but also I will think about my last epoch online friends. Thank you!

[junior oyster]

I see High Guard isn't out yet

[desert jasper]

Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't going to release

[junior oyster]

I mean it's also early here

Only 5:25pm

Over in the US and depending where they are it could be as early as 9:30AM

[twilit mountain]

It be 12:40PM in the east coast here

[warped wren]

that's that game that every ragebait youtuber is calling dead on arrival right

the shooter

[junior oyster]

Yea

[warped wren]

hero shooter whatever

it would be the funniest possible outcome if it's actually a good game and then these people have to crawl their opinions back into the woodwork

[sand wigeon]

some pre release stuff from folk who avoided any paidservices said it was good

idk how much that matters

that genre is just so oversaturated people are tired of it

[warped wren]

I personally believe there's always some space for quality, just that your audience gets capped

which might still be profitable idk, depends on how much these guys spent and what their operating costs are

[junior oyster]

People were mainly peeved off because of the placement for that game in the game awards

I'm honestly not angry about it at all

[twilit mountain]

I'm sure it's at least fine, I just was hoping for something more... interesting from people who were part of TF and Apex

[junior oyster]

I mean I won't play it and feel like other games deserved that spot more but w/e

[twilit mountain]

Blame Keighley. He put it there. The company didn't even pay for that slot.

[sand wigeon]

it’s rly just been geoff keighlegh or however you spell his name that screwed it

[warped wren]

how dare you be sensible on the internet

[sand wigeon]

it’s generic slop and it’s not the slop i like!!!

[twilit mountain]

I keep getting things advertised to me as "if you like Risk of Rain 2 you need to play this!!!!"
And I just sit there like "but I don't even think 2 is that good"

[warped wren]

I feel less like an outcast for refunding RoR2

[sand wigeon]

my rogueslop

[warped wren]

I gave it a shot, didn't enjoy it

[sand wigeon]

my idleslop

my mmoslop

my friendslop

[warped wren]

I love Shape of Dreams though

[sand wigeon]

what’s next huh

[warped wren]

so fun

[twilit mountain]

I mean, don't get me wrong, I like RoR2, but I think it's just 1) not a very good roguelike and 2) worse than the other entries

[warped wren]

best ~$30 I spent lately

[sand wigeon]

best game i’ve ever played is still king’s field 4 us release

[twilit mountain]

People really out here putting RoR2 on the same level as TBoI, FTL, and Nuclear Throne. Baffling.

[sand wigeon]

curse of the dead gods doesn’t get enough recognition

[junior oyster]

I'll get hate for this probably but I find ror2 as much fun as I do Hades

[sand wigeon]

so not much

[twilit mountain]

Hades is a terrible roguelike

So

[sand wigeon]

yeah lol

[warped wren]

😠

slander

[twilit mountain]

No

It is a good game

It's a bad roguelike

[sand wigeon]

good game, bad rogue

she’s so smart

words and stuff

[warped wren]

explain

[silent steeple]

Should try Shape of dreams

[warped wren]

lol I JUST mentioned that I'm loving it

[silent steeple]

Nvm I just saw ur msg following 😂

[warped wren]

played almost 90 hours of it since I picked up during the Christmas sale

[junior oyster]

To this day Bastion is my favourite game from supergiant

[twilit mountain]

It plays more as a hack and slash action game with middling meta-progression and poor replay-ability, the endgame difficulties end up as luck based corpse rushing instead of a skill based game that hinges on knowledge and mechanical skill.

[warped wren]

I do wish the characters were a little bit better balanced and that co-op had its own balance, but that's a minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things

[warped wren]

I agree with middling meta progression and endgame being extremely RNG. Poor replayability is crazy talk to me given how MUCH I played it, because the RNG actually works in its favor in that regard IMO

like the reason I keep it uninstalled is so that I don't go into the rabbit hole of "one more run" again

[twilit mountain]

Hades replayability is terrible in comparison to any of the big names in the genre

Gungeon sweeps it without even trying

[junior oyster]

What's gungeon?

I'm kidding

[twilit mountain]

Enter The Gungeon. A bullet hell roguelike that has one of the most skill reliant gameplay loops in the entire genre

[silent steeple]

True but compared to other games like Gunfire Reborn, this at least has a semi-functional co-op. And I cant think of many games that follow this method to unlock characters by playing other characters

[warped wren]

if you say so. I find every aspect of Hades to be insanely fun, it's one of my favorite games of all time. I haven't played that many roguelikes so I can't really argue whether it's technically a good roguelike or not, but it's a fantastic GAME for sure

[sand wigeon]

i regularly beat gungeon with only the starter weapons without trying because i’m just so used to ammo conservation

[warped wren]

oh is Gunfire Reborn worse?

that's unfortunate

[sand wigeon]

again, good game, bad rogue

[warped wren]

that was also on my radar at one point

[sand wigeon]

i’ve played basically every rogue on the market

[twilit mountain]

I've played triple digit amounts of roguelikes xdd

[sand wigeon]

it’s a bad rogue

[silent steeple]

Its co-op is, yeah. U know how ur progress is saved in SoD? Thats not a thing in GfR and it barely ever works to begin with. But if it works then u have an absolute blast

[warped wren]

oof

[twilit mountain]

Tbf, saved progress isn't a thing in the vast majority of roguelikes

It's kinda a core component of them

[warped wren]

as a dad gamer, I cannot tell you how important stuff like saved progress and pausing are to me now

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I get that

[sand wigeon]

oh yeah i played my first session of dnd ever yesterday

not related just thought it was cool

[silent steeple]

Especially in co-op and when the games are still in EA so connection drops are all too common

[sand wigeon]

highguard is available for download

[warped wren]

SoD desperately needs to fix performance and memory leak in co-op and looping though

feels like playing a powerpoint deck after a point

[twilit mountain]

I finally got RoRR to drop to single digit framerates recently.

[silent steeple]

I gotta check this game out. Heard way too much abt it to ignore

[twilit mountain]

It took infinite abilities on screen hitting nearly 50 copies of a boss with over 10 separate hit boxes on it.

[sand wigeon]

imo it’ll probably suck

[twilit mountain]

Very impressed it stayed running, the original would've crashed on contact

[warped wren]

that sounds insane lol

[twilit mountain]

The powers of looping stages for 6+ hours (I was achievement hunting)

(Most inefficient way to do that btw, I just felt like it cuz it was funny)

[fierce moth]

woooo go off work. Free time! One more hour available before go sleeping 🤔

[ebon meadow]

Story of my life xdd ,I have 1.5 hrs after work before pub shuts for 3 beers then it's home to play for another 3-4 hours

5 days a week Saturday is only mid day but same thing with the pub but I have more time to play before my body gives in and sleep till Sunday

Sundays are usually watching stupid content like shorts unless there's a ongoing league in a game that I want to play ,then I stay up for like 15 hours playing if not more

Torchlight infinite has me busy for now I m enjoying my chaos dot blasphemer

Tried the wicked it feels nice but very control heavy and I don't have one currently

Combat is crazy engaging though

[twilit mountain]

Cool to see you're enjoying it. Game's way better than it seems at first glance, and has too many people dragging it down due to monetization (which, yes, it's bad, I get it, but it isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I've won races in TLI as a nearly 100% F2P player)

[ebon meadow]

I v learned with lost arc to not judge a lot by monetezation ,if I can play by just putting more hours witch I do it's fine

O don't chase leaderboards anymore who cares

[twilit mountain]

Aye very understandable. I'm a loser, I like seeing my name high up when it's manageable.

[junior oyster]

I disliked tli not because of the monetisation but the graphics. I just can't with that.

That said I never liked tl2 either so

[twilit mountain]

Also fair. I'm not really one to get hung up on that as long as it looks decent and is consistent

[junior oyster]

Yea and I understand why people might not like grim dawn too

Either because they don't enjoy the graphics or theme or even the fact there isn't a true multiplayer mode

[fierce moth]

lol wait wait wait wait moon studios is streaming?!

[junior oyster]

Honestly the content alone makes me want to play it but alas the graphics really turns me away

[junior oyster]

Yea
||I have no idea who that is||

[fierce moth]

I never see devs of no rest for the wicked play their game indeed

[junior oyster]

It's a pretty common thing nowadays for devs to stream their games or even participate in streamer content

[fierce moth]

I wonder who Kris is

A game streamer?

[junior oyster]

Mad hatter

[fierce moth]

Yes... What is it mean

[ebon meadow]

ohh yea if i can squiz my ass there somehow i do like it much as well 🙂

[fierce moth]

Mike is a mad hatter too

(I guess that by his profile)

[twilit mountain]

To my understanding Kirra, it comes from Alice In Wonderland (Mike's anyways is 100% from that), at least in pop culture. There's a historical thing behind it too.

[junior oyster]

Mad hatter is also a batman villain

[ebon meadow]

the historical thing is porobaly who ever wrote that was really high on meta xdd (its a jk its a classic but ... yea )

[ebon meadow]

hmm? witch one

[junior oyster]

Mad hatter

[ebon meadow]

sorry i meant witch batman

i m googling

[junior oyster]

Batman

[fierce moth]

[ebon meadow]

ohhh

1948

this cahracter is more older than few of us combined

that is a cool character

[fierce moth]

... remind me of Alice asylum suddenly

[ebon meadow]

defently see the point

thats a great art as well for a screen saver

[twilit mountain]

He's based on the Alice In Wonderland character

Or rather, he is obsessed with that story in-universe and models himself after the character he took the name from

[ebon meadow]

is it the one that Jhony Depp plays in the movie? the teapot one ?

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. The original story is obviously much older

[ebon meadow]

i do like this trypi style to

Kirra paint like this

xdd

[twilit mountain]

(If you're curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Adventures_in_Wonderland)

[ebon meadow]

it is probably took from someones old bedtime story coutrywise and translated

[twilit mountain]

It's a novel from the 1860s

[ebon meadow]

1862 ... yea

yesus

[twilit mountain]

It's a little bit batshit. Uh. 1860s UK was a place.

[ebon meadow]

i m not American lmao i know

still so old

and the word i keep reading is manuscripts

its old

i have red about Napoleon and before , i liked History in school

[fierce moth]

Damn... Miss that perfectly. I see why this game get some spotlight recently now

[ebon meadow]

i was geniunly speaking of this on friday here and asking

a lot

how did u miss that

and also controller heavy u would enjoyed it

[fierce moth]

Immersed in working too much

[ebon meadow]

there was like pink chat all day , mods were exited

[ebon meadow]

thats actually good excuse , ok XD

[fierce moth]

Not sure... Last time I heard that is it's a melee-heavy game

mage fans don't have much freedom

[twilit mountain]

It's as close as you can get to a souls-like game with the typical ARPG camera

[ebon meadow]

it is but people already cooking casters

and yea combat is defently not made to turn ur brain of and play

still very good though

it already feels juicy

[fierce moth]

🤔 Echoes... Interesting

So le isn't the only game which use echoes

[ebon meadow]

welcome to the industry

its not that its just theres not much of lets call them "ways" of mechanics can be named we prety much expoited the vocabulary there

maps , echos , timelines , planet , bioms

same word for a zone nothing else

story telling and imersion is only thing that vary how we persive the game

[fierce moth]

Showcases of gameplay in No rest for the wicked just never attract me... Their art style is fantastic without doubt.

Art ✅
Music ❔
Storytelling ❔
Gameplay ❎

So I always hesitated

[ebon meadow]

art is debatible music is decent storytelling i connot tell sorry i dont care , gameplay verynice but play with controller xd

art engine has a world to improve speatialy on your character holy hobbo

if it wasnt for light effects LE kicked ass here graphicly wise , imo

it felt dark at start

the engine do run really nice as well in wicked i was so suprised playing at all moast max

its a new pc but its still mid compared to a lot of people

[fierce moth]

😅 Tried hard to find the spark in their gameplay but I found nothing yet

[ebon meadow]

i can give u an example , u need to like somehow boses in poe to enjoy that game

it is a soullike arpg

games like that i personaly can play like 4-6 hours on a good day then i get exahusted and bored

ptsd from wow raiding

no braining maps for day or few just for exp and some currency feel a lot better

then weekend you go hard and push boses or what ever your goal is

i like games that i can play without putting effort in and then go heavy when i have plenty of time

maaan i wonder if any mmo can ever pull me back in again

currently blasting trooves in TI and music xdd no brainer Monday

i didnt know characters were bound to realms ...

[fierce moth]

I'm not sure can I accept a game which melee only

It's the biggest point

[ebon meadow]

i started whith bow wdum ?

theres diferent styles

mele best , well idk maybe it is becouse the game is focused on it for now

havent seen streams but already read people were making casters of some sort

[desert jasper]

what do you mean melee only?

[ebon meadow]

i played like 7 hours

[fierce moth]

I don't want to die 500+ times per character to learn boss combats like Poe 2 again

[gilded elm]

Dying is fun. More specifically, overcoming difficulty is fun, death is just a very good way to measure skill increase.

Welcome to Souls-likes.

I understand a lot of these reviews are going to be people hating just to hate, but you would think if the game was decent at all, the gap between positive and negative reviews wouldn't be so wide.

[twilit mountain]

Ehhh, 5k reviews in under a few hours is a little fishy

[gilded elm]

It even has fairly respectable player counts right now. If a decent chunk of those actually converted into positive reviews, you'd notice something.

[gilded elm]

Free to play, so naturally expecting a lot of hate-motivated reviews off the bat from very low playtimes, still the ratio isn't looking promising. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen games make a recovery in the first or second day, though... so it's still worth watching how it pans out.

[ebon meadow]

my tag is literally immortal death dealer death is just another respawn

its just a game it came from puzzles learn from mistakes get better nothing much

[twilit mountain]

Top review is 1.1 hour and bashing every aspect of the game. From art to sound design to gameplay systems. I cannot take it seriously, at least not yet. When I see someone with like 20 hours or more then I'll consider it.

[gilded elm]

Yeah, agreed lol

Still, I'm not really getting any sense of desire or want to play this game based on stream footage.

[ebon meadow]

nah 100 hours or a skip

its very easy to get those hours today in game

70-100

[gilded elm]

Not that I would play a Hero Shooter these days, but some games still have a certain kind of attractive pull that makes me look at it and say "oh that's a good looking game" even if I won't play it.

[twilit mountain]

I generally do not trust steam reviews just cuz uh.... whew, people love dogpiling and being disingenuous.

[ebon meadow]

it slike rust chat but in reviews

people just get mad for one thing that can be fixed and they just batter

[gilded elm]

My gripes with Highguard are basically that the game just looks like Generic Hero Shooter, I don't really see anything that makes me think this is a "new breed of shooter"

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, pretty much where I'm at

[gilded elm]

I don't think it's a bad game. Just a very mediocre game that isn't taking any creative risks.

[ebon meadow]

is it like overwatch ?

[gilded elm]

Similar, yeah. It's a hero shooter, but it's... bland. It has no creative soul? I don't know how else I would put it.

[ebon meadow]

geniunlu have no idea

[gilded elm]

Mechanically it doesn't seem that bad.

[twilit mountain]

It's just kinda uninspired.

[ebon meadow]

ok so this is on market and i have few hours and videos on it

[twilit mountain]

Don't get into Paladins, Hi-Rez butchered it

[gilded elm]

Hi-Rez butchers everything they touch.

[ebon meadow]

i was there for the launch havent played for years

[gilded elm]

I loved this game so much.

[twilit mountain]

It was solid once upon a time, but around 2021 they just pushed bad patch after bad patch and made it exponentially harder to unlock anything new :/

[ebon meadow]

my last pladins xdd

holy time flyes

[gilded elm]

This was also Hi-Rez btw. They tried to milk the franchise under a different studio's name to escape their terrible reputation.

[ebon meadow]

the fact i can play almoast ed contagion and black hole in TI is actually funny

[gilded elm]

Erez, chairman of Hi-Rez and CEO of Prophecy Games has been single-handedly destroying multiple game franchises for years. He takes self-sabotage to a whole other level.

[ebon meadow]

i love my dots

[gilded elm]

He's one of those "I ban everyone who disagrees with me" game devs.

[mental talon]

Hey, what'd I miss

[ebon meadow]

monday night talk nothing much lul

elo

[twilit mountain]

Highgaurd is out as of like 3 or 4 hours ago, so that's a thing. Uh.... Phrecia2 patchnotes still don't exist (though I probably won't be playing it anyway). Not much else. I could start drama but I'd risk a ban with the kind on my mind.

Or rather, I would catch a ban lol

[mental talon]

Well I made nachoes because I was snowed in so that's neat

[mental talon]

Don't do that, (or do you're an adult I cant stop you)

[twilit mountain]

Oh real. We're not snowed in necessarily. Plows be plowing smth fierce. Do be freezin though

[mental talon]

I had nothing better to do

[mental talon]

Yeah I finished shoveling this morning (because snow plow isnt working yippie) and I've just been literally doing nothing I guess lmao

[ebon meadow]

ummmm i see jalapeños and chedar

pls insert in my mouth and dont care for my stomach tomorow , looks so tasty

is it pink onion there as well ??

[mental talon]

Shallots, Serrano Peppers (grocery store had no Jalapenos), Flank Steak, and a Whole Can of Black Beans, and Corn.

[ebon meadow]

the hell is a serrano peper lul rest ok

i was confused about meat to it was not meanced fried

black beans very nice

[ebon meadow]

i m not sure i actually ever tried it

[twilit mountain]

Sounds fantastic tbh. Might need to send a request in to housemate to pick some stuff up on his way back from work..... Maybe.

[ebon meadow]

if its very biiter and not spicy then yes

[mental talon]

A spicier Jalapeno is the tl;dr.

(Jalapenos aren't spicy but you get the idea)

[ebon meadow]

spicy and cheese usually are very tolerable to

now greek spicy chilly on kebab is completely screwed , and thats from a fan of swarma with chilly and garlic

[mental talon]

Yeah I'm Jamaican so I kinda grew up on spiced food (didn't have a choice) marinated Flank Steak with some OJ, Gochujang, Korean Pear, and Scotch Bonnet. Some good stuff for me.

[ebon meadow]

wasabi level stuff

[ebon meadow]

i am actually dribbling man

i need to get my self a grill

thank god i live in a touristic place i can actually have some native food sometimes in good variety , i love spices

i have a thing for now with colombian chimchurri , its lit

theres MSG and theres "natural" MSG

[ebon meadow]

aji aprently is original name

had to ask a friend that sometimes make it for me

[sand wigeon]

ALL I WANTED

WAS TO PLAY THE CUTE KITTY GIRL

BUT THEY COULDN’T EVEN LET ME HAVE MAEVE

[fierce moth]

Still can't find any attractive points to convince myself to buy no rest for the wicked... Fine I give up

But their player community is quite active indeed

[fierce moth]

🤔 I want to play light no fire instead... Just heard that

Be revealed in 2023 and still no news in 2026... It's not a good sign

[twilit mountain]

Nothing wrong with that. It was a reveal trailer, meaning they were just showing off they had started a new project. Doesn't have any bearing on how far out it is.

Besides, Hello Games know what they're doing, their recovery of NMS is evidence of that

They very deliberately didn't put a time frame on when Light No Fire would be out, because doing so means expectations, deadlines, crunch, and extra pressure. It's probably the best move they could have chosen

[fierce moth]

No chance to try no man sky (not very interested in the gameplay too), but I admired the last campfire pretty much.

[gilded elm]

I got scammed into taking a farting pill D:

[desert jasper]

How wonderful
they made you into a biohazard

[gilded elm]

This is nothing compared to the weasels. They fart non-stop in this game.

[desert jasper]

I see

[twilit mountain]

How close are weasels to ferrets? Cuz if they are close enough then having owned a few of those it's just accurate

Like, I know they're in the same... family I think is the word. But also so are badgers and wolverines I think? So, y'know, bit of variance there

[desert jasper]

apparently "cousins"

[junior stirrup]

Phrecia notes out btw.

[fierce moth]

The answer from deepseek is quite bad... It recommended me to play...

Candle: The power of the flame (available on switch only)
Candleman (A highly-praised adventure game on mobile)
Rekindled trails (Not a story-driven adventure game)
Kindled hope (sucks on game art)

[gilded elm]

smh

[twilit mountain]

Byte are you captured again?

[gilded elm]

...yes

[twilit mountain]

How do you keep doing this

[gilded elm]

By a scamming sect this time... not even the actual authorities... just a sect of people who grift and scam, basically a thieves guild...

[twilit mountain]

Can you translate them into alphabet soup format for me? I wish to physically digest them line by line.

[twilit mountain]

Oh. My kinda people.

[gilded elm]

These guys scammed me into joining their sect before too, by pretending to be an elder from another sect and then pulling the rug once I actually joined the sect, revealing that I had actually joined the scammers' sect.

This was when I got scammed into joining them lol

[warped wren]

did you seriously ask an LLM to recommend you what game you should play...

[desert jasper]

Seems to be something fire related too

[warped wren]

I have so many gifs and emojis for this situation but LE discord moderation is utter tyranny

[gilded elm]

Free the gifs and emojis :peepoRiot:

[fierce moth]

Anyone know any narrative adventure games like the last campfire on steam?
Any story-driven adventure games relevant to light the fire as similar as the last campfire had done are what I want to find, the vibe from the environment art and the type of stories in the last campfire attracted me seriously.

(re-manage my sentences)

I find the midnight walk only so far 🤔

[gilded elm]

Oh, I must've just taken a wrong turn somewhere

[desert jasper]

What a cozy place

[gilded elm]

Well, not the worst scammers... I guess.

[gilded elm]

I'm here wasting time jailbreaking the dumb AI chatbots in this game lol

[silent steeple]

I haven't played last campfire so idk if this fits the category but in my library I found a game called Dear Esther

Check it out and see if thats what u are looking for

[gilded elm]

lol

I don't get why this NPC is a thing and why she keeps calling me "naughty darling"

Unfortunately it's putting me through this nonsense if I want to obtain this reward lol

[fierce moth]

Oh I played that a bit in 2022... It's dusted later 😅

[silent steeple]

I will be playing it today myself

At least to clear it off my backlogs

[fierce moth]

I felt playing a game was a spirit-consuming thing in that year

🤔 Oh I guessed I picked up that strategy game I don't understand again and opened a new world in 2022 too

I opened a new world 3 times... The 1st one is I started to find puzzle games on steam in 2021, the 2nd one is that strategy game, the 3rd time is I knew a game calls last epoch

[silent steeple]

I think I heard of the 3rd one

Last Epoch does sound familiar

[fierce moth]

hah... That's quite tiring when someone want to call police for help because a friend they knew have sent a medicine picture and transfer a big amount of money before this friend took a plane...

Quite troublesome the process is... It's my feeling.

This streamer is amazing 🙏

[obtuse rune]

Lately, I'm running mid for my group but I can play any role. My strongest being Mid, Support and Top in that order

[vagrant topaz]

What kind of champ ?

I feel like we have had that convo before ^^

[desert jasper]

Wee
Got the new SSD in the machine and now I get to move all my installed games over there

I guess I didn't need to play games today

[obtuse rune]

Naafiri, Swain, Hwei, Liss, Akshan, Jhin, EZ & Elise

That's a great feeling though.. more space for bigger updates in games

[desert jasper]

Ah yes, I know some of those champs.

[vagrant topaz]

Are you swapping SSD or getting into SSD

[desert jasper]

I've had a smaller SSD and some stuff on HDD
Gonna keep the HDD for media
might put put in dual boot for linux stuff on the smaller one since it'll actually have space

[vagrant topaz]

Pretty wide pool OO

If I play in soloQ I only play the crab

[obtuse rune]

Not the crab

I've been playing LoL for...too long

[vagrant topaz]

In crab we trust

[desert jasper]

Sometimes I miss playing league
Sometimes.

[vagrant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/urgot-crab-rave-crab-lo-l-memes-gif-13492300

[obtuse rune]

Until you play a game and realize why you got off last time

[vagrant topaz]

Honestly 1/2 ranked a day, not everyday and a few aram with friends is the perfect amount 😄

[lean fiber]

Dota 2, sorry, it is superior 😄

[desert jasper]

Don't they also have that kernel level anticheat?
not a fan of that

[obtuse rune]

I won't say you're wrong but I'll say Dota 2 was so much more overwhelming for me originally

[lean fiber]

I get it.

Most items are activatable so it's intimidating alone there

[obtuse rune]

1 or 2 ranked games a day isn't bad if you win and don't deal with wild toxicity

[desert jasper]

I used to play a lot of Dota back in the day
but couldn't really get to dota2 somehow

[obtuse rune]

Yeah, I think at the time there were no characters I was interested in playing

[lean fiber]

That graphics/art/animations/etc are all better in D2 imo

[obtuse rune]

To this day, I'd say Broodmother is the only hero interested me

[desert jasper]

Well, used to play dota
shared the pc with my little brother and so we used same client, obviously
then the banlists started being used on wc3 and my brother ragequit a dota game and got us both banned from playing it LUL

[obtuse rune]

With that being said, I truly miss HOTS. A very fun MOBA that was just abandoned

[silent steeple]

Not dealing with toxicity in LoL or Dota 2 is like not getting wet during a rainstorm 😂

[obtuse rune]

TRUE but you do meet some cool people

I've met some life long friends in LoL (and other games) so that has to balance it out

[desert jasper]

I remember some smaller streamer linked her stream in the lobby once
opened the stream out of curiosity and it was probably the most toxic lass I've ever seen

[obtuse rune]

ugh

Sorry

[lean fiber]

Wild that's the only one!

[silent steeple]

Same but my best mates are from CS and Ow. I was too "noob" for Lol ppl xD

[obtuse rune]

Why I don't trust links

[obtuse rune]

To be fair, looking at the heroes now...more of them are cool looking

[desert jasper]

Eh I don't really mind having a stream open 🤷‍♂️

[lean fiber]

Yeah, not syure the last time you played but the all new engine they use and detail with the characters is wild

[desert jasper]

Used to play a lot of source
but no idea about the hours because steam didn't track them back then
I did actually like day of defeat better but sadly it wasn't even nearly as popular and last time I tried playing it the only servers that actually had people playing were just meant for sniping
custom map that's just a reallly long open arena, no safe spots in the middle

[lean fiber]

CS is my favorite game all time 🙂

I have probably almost 30k hours in it across all versions, been playing since Sept 24, 1999

[obtuse rune]

You know what, Derrick that makes me wonder.. what are your and everyone else's most top played game? Either currently or in the past?

I'll say give me your top 3

[lean fiber]

By playtime or just as opinion?

[obtuse rune]

Both because 12 years ago we didnt have timer or access to ways keeping track of some games

[lean fiber]

TLOU series is my fav single player narrative series, Uncharted is close behind it -- Naughty Dog just does it right.

Valve is my favorite developer so HL series, CS series, Dota 2 and Deadlock are among my favorites

FFVII

Can't forget that one

Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past

[desert jasper]

I think Grim Dawn is my most played?
Or possibly Shaiya or Aion

oh yea, well I guess LoL is up there too

[obtuse rune]

Classics, classics all around very nice.

I think for me, Phantasy Star Online 2, Diablo 2, LoL and then for single player... that is really hard lol

Shouldn't count PSO2 or FFXIV/FFXI because I've spent lifetimes in those games..

Aion was a really fun concept. I loved trying to invade the other faction with the rifts.

[desert jasper]

oh yea, I forgot diablo3 completely
I think I had like 10k hours in it?

[obtuse rune]

I did not play D3 as much as I did D2 but played it morre than D4

[desert jasper]

Oh yea, it was fun
Until you met some of those hardcore pvpers that were in some low lvl map with the revive things and basically having formed a camp there and making the area essentially unavailable for casuals

[obtuse rune]

yeeeep.

Hated that because in order to get some of the cool outfits, you had to sneak through the rift and find NPC and purchase them If I recall that was a challenge itself

[desert jasper]

I didn't know that there were some npcs like that

[obtuse rune]

Yep. The whole reason I tried so hard to sneak around after getting into a rift

I could totally be mistaken but that is a memory that I stuck with and I'd hate it if I were wrong hahaha

[fierce moth]

it's why you have worked in Value? I wonder how are you got a chance

Seems that Derrick is a fps pro gamer

[lean fiber]

Hah, well, that's a wild story in fact 🙂

[fierce moth]

I'm interested in listening more details 🤔

But what I appreciated you the most is you still willing to learn new things after your career is quite stable and you worked many years in game industry

oh wait... Always remember valve as value...

[lean fiber]

Knowledge is everything 🙂

[fierce moth]

Are you add a 🙂 directly or you just type a :) at last

[silent steeple]

Counter strike of course. Lowkey glad it didn't track my time cuz I used to play at least an hour everyday since middle school till college 😂
And there was a web browser game called Tribal wars or something similar but I played that for a few years too during school

And NFS Most Wanted

[desert jasper]

Never had NFS
But played some over at a friend's place
It was nice

[abstract karma]

Wacraft 3 Dota or Wacraft 2 Dota superior

[lean fiber]

I'm always smiling 😄

[silent steeple]

In terms of replayability I haven't come across many games as good as NFS MW

Whether its music, the general gameplay, the in-game mechanics which let u customise cars anyway u want so u always had something to do and wouldn't get bored

Never liked the multiplayer mode tho cuz cheating was way too rampant back then lol

[desert jasper]

I'm almost jealous

[twilit mountain]

Hey let's be fair. Cheating is arguably more rampant in games now

[lean fiber]

Well, not ALWAYS, but most of the time.

[silent steeple]

I guess but we got ACs too for almost anything online these days. And most of them have to be kernel lvl too

[desert jasper]

I can't even remember the last time I had a genuine smile

[twilit mountain]

Most anti-cheats are not kernel level. The only notable kernel level one is Riot Vanguard. BattlEye isn't actually kernel level, neither is EAC, and those are two of the most common ones in the industry.

People really hate kernel level anti-cheat, so devs avoid them most of the time

[desert jasper]

Also a lot of the anticheats don't even work on Linux because they don't get the permissions they need

[fierce moth]

Hah I remind of that finally. Yes I knew mad hatter from Mike

[silent steeple]

I cant remember the name of game but there was one that spread CE like wildfire

[desert jasper]

Ah, almost done moving all the stuff to the SSD
Good, good

[junior oyster]

Terraria 1.4.5 is out!

[gilded elm]

Cool, I may give it a try. I never gave Terraria a proper chance.

That is to say, never did an actual playthrough at all.

Feels like I've been missing out lol

[silent steeple]

I got into it thinking it would be like stardew valley

I was so wrong

[junior oyster]

Lol yea nothing alike

But I love both games for different reasons

[gilded elm]

I imagine it's basically 2D Minecraft on crack. I guess if you wanted, you could mod a Stardew-like experience in Terraria, though.

lol, glad I didn't buy the 3 day advanced access for this

[fierce moth]

any games you know are bases on post-apocalyptic world too?

[gilded elm]

Grim Dawn? lol

[fierce moth]

...lol

[gilded elm]

As far as post-apocalyptic stories and worlds go, Grim Dawn is one of the best.

[fierce moth]

I can't stop myself the desire that I want to explode all houses on the land at first

[gilded elm]

Grim Dawn is meant to be explored thoroughly.

It's one of the reasons why it has camera rotation, unlike most other ARPGs.

[silent steeple]

How abt Metro Exodus

[gilded elm]

No idea, haven't played it. Looks like a traditional first-person shooter, I don't tend to play those much (if at all). I do play FPS, but not really those kinds.

[junior oyster]

Fallout new vegas

She never stated it had to be an arpg >:

[gilded elm]

Yeah I know, it was just the first thing that came to mind.

[junior oyster]

Well any Fallout game tbf

I just wish they would do FNV justice and make a good remaster

[gilded elm]

Probably not any. As much as Fallout 1 and 2 are probably good games, they're not even in the same genre as any entry that follows (and they're extremely dated haha)

[junior oyster]

I mean yea

I specifically was talking about 3, 4 and 70something

I refuse to acknowledge that game purely for the fact it's an online game

[desert jasper]

was watching a stream
guy has good pc
med settings at 1440p and it was under 60fps, sometimes dropping below 30
also open world when first game wasn't

[silent steeple]

Its the final installment of the metro games. Really good in terms of how the story was told and how the whole trilogy was wrapped up
Also i need to mention that it is anything but a traditional first-person shooter. Its more like horror/psychological shooter 😂

[gilded elm]

Yeah, maybe not traditional, but based on a contemporary setting is the right way to phrase that.

[gilded elm]

Makes me wonder what kind of hardware the devs are even testing these games on lol

[fierce moth]

👍 I announce metro exodus win

[gilded elm]

To clarify, I'm typically looking for the fantastical or exotic rather than something that's more grounded.

[silent steeple]

No I get u. I think for me it had those impacts u get from games when u go in blind and it hits u with everything 😂

[junior oyster]

Also I know it's not a true post apocalyptic game but I can't never recommend Bastion

[gilded elm]

It's always nice to be pleasantly and unexpectedly surprised when you go into something without knowing what to expect.

[junior oyster]

The story, art and music is all worth it

[junior oyster]

It's for this reason I can't go back to the Ori games any more

Can only experience it first time lol

[gilded elm]

Hah, yeah lots of games like that

[junior oyster]

Spoilers for Ori and the blind forest ||That moment when you save the tree...||

Same situation with Stray

Another post apolyptic game for kirra although in this case it's mainly just exploration as a cute kitty

[fierce moth]

I think I can start from metro: last light

[silent steeple]

Wellllll

[fierce moth]

oh... It has a bundle

[silent steeple]

If I may, I'd suggest go from 2033

Follow Artyom's journey and u'll understand what I meant by getting hit with everything when u reach 3rd game 😂

[fierce moth]

Well... I'd better to buy the bundle directly later instead of buy 2033 or last light now

[silent steeple]

Yup

Wait is it on sale?

[fierce moth]

No one on sale

[silent steeple]

Ah

But yeah getting the bundle would be the best experience wise

And if u don't care abt older games/story then Exodus alone is a great choice too

[gilded elm]

The end-user modding tools already in this game so far are so cool lol

[abstract karma]

wonder if these 3D tools using some 3rd software or its made trough libs of used engine

[gilded elm]

The model editor they use is Blockbench. They have a custom Hytale plugin for it.

[abstract karma]

hmm

[gilded elm]

https://www.blockbench.net/

lol

Charlie seems to have a very reasonable and grounded take on Highguard.

[jade jackal]

Wake up babe, there's a new swordmaking game https://store.steampowered.com/app/2305640/Bladesong/

[gilded elm]

Already on my wishlist lol

Gonna wait for a bigger sale on that one since it's not something I'd normally play

[jade jackal]

There's a free demo, lets try

[neon sigil]

i forgot to use reference

[twilit mountain]

Played a bit today. Ultimately, it's fine, but it has some pretty obvious gameplay flaws imo. That's not getting into that I'm forced to play on low settings due to outdated hardware and it's brutal how much that screws over your ability to play the game.

[gilded elm]

Honestly they would be lucky if gameplay was the only thing that felt off about it, IMO. Feels like the art direction is just so bland and I wonder if that's harder to change (significant asset changes across the board for a more appealing visual style) compared to redesigning some gameplay systems.

[twilit mountain]

The art style itself is fine. The issue is that half the characters are just boring or outright bad designs. And to be clear, the gameplay actually feels pretty good, better than Apex gunplay imho, the flaws are reliant on underlying things such as weapon balance, armor system, inability to upgrade your weapons at will, etc.

Also I will push back on some of the complaints people are making about character designs because there's misinformation all over the place on them. Such as people going "Atticus is a broccoli top haircut soldier with half plate armor and cargo pants"
No guys, he's wearing sci-fi inspired armor and does in fact have leg armor and greaves. Those aren't cargo pants, my man's in a bodysuit under the armor.
If you're gonna complain about character designs use your brain and don't just lie about it. His issue is that he isn't visually interesting, not how much armor he does or doesn't have.

Like, Slade is beyond lame as a design. It's a generic blond "hunk" character in a vest and actual cargo pants (source: I wear cargo pants).

[gilded elm]

Yeah I don't sense that the art or gameplay in general is bad, but specific to the art like I said it's just bland and doesn't stand out. Generic basically sums up a lot of the atmosphere of the game's artistic direction.

Unfortunately the game is in a bad spot, Geoff Keighley kind of screwed them on this and now it might be harder for them to actually recover when so many people seemingly have a stake in its failure.

So I think it's going to take a lot of extra effort towards making significant changes that enough people are willing to even look in its direction.

[twilit mountain]

It's shocking to me to see that Scarlet, Una, and Redmane are from the same game as Kai, Atticus, and Slade.
Like, those first two are good character designs. Una is probably the most unique character in the game, extremely recognizable from the moment you see her.
Scarlet just looks generally cool even though her design makes zero sense for her power set or lore (exposed midriff on the character that summons and surrounds herself with sand, lol).
Redmane's only issue is his proportions are a little wonky, otherwise I really don't have any complaints on him. Decent armor design, has funky little animal pieces attached to his head related to his lore and abilities, sure makes sense.

[gilded elm]

Sadge

[twilit mountain]

<@&1161418687471956101> we gots them spam bots again

[fierce moth]

🤔 Never know horse racing is a popular sport too

It's tie with gambling deeply so it's not available in mainland so I never learn that

...It's heartbreaking to know black curtains = the death of horses

Broken legs mean this horse must die... 🫠 😢

[twilit mountain]

It's very rare for them to be able to recover properly from them, most often they "recover" and are in severe pain for the rest of their life.

[sand wigeon]

yeah it's just how it goes

[gilded elm]

Get rekt nerd (except that last part, he cheated)

[junior oyster]

They should apply this to umamasume or whatever the anime is called

I'd be more inclined to watch

[silent steeple]

Do u know theres been a recent controversy surrounding something similar

Peta in all their radiant wisdom portrayed a pretty graphic image as they usually do to show what happens to horses in racing industry

It backfired and ppl lost it over the insensitivity of that post

[warped wren]

PETA is funded by the meat industry and you cannot convince me otherwise

Because nobody is THAT consistently stupid by accident

[sand wigeon]

why in gods name should they do that

[sand wigeon]

i'm convinced it's just to disenfranchise actual animal rights groups and make them all seem stupid and incapable

[silent steeple]

I remember reading that just in past 30-50 years the global wildlife population has declined by approx 70%, most of it cuz of habitat loss and human activity like mining, deforestation and other stuff

But whenever I read an article involving peta its always abt cows, dogs and other domestic animals

[fierce moth]

yo, much more expensive than that $480 supporter packs 🤔

Creators who invited by GGG for free to join are quite happy

No idea how expensive food cost, hotel cost and traffic cost on Auckland, NZ...

Keep sane, exiles

[desert jasper]

Yeah no way I'd go there

[silent steeple]

NZ is a beautiful country tho

[desert jasper]

Yes
But it's not like I can afford the tickets, flying there, hotel etc

[silent steeple]

Lets dedicate this year to preparing ourselves to be able to travel to all the nice places in the world

Assuming everything isn't set on fire by next year 😂

[fierce moth]

Hotel cost is ￥3055.25，Flight cost is ￥8883，so flight + hotel = 11938.25 = 2850.88 NZD/1718.25USD

I don't calculate food cost yet. It's price includes flight, hotel, rental car and the cheapest ticket. It as equal as 3265.54NZD

🤔 so this trip... Worth 2500USD approxiately

[twilit mountain]

Yeah it's, a lot

[fierce moth]

🤔 Well... Enough to buy a new pc/laptop with rtx5070

emmmm I don't add visa cost yet

[junior stirrup]

The US is on the visa waiver country list, they can typically visit on an NZeTA: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/visit/what-you-need-to-visit-new-zealand/visa-waiver-countries-and-territories/

They seem to pay NZ$117 for a NZeTA, of which NZ$100 is a "International Visitor Conservation and Tourism Levy"

[fierce moth]

Oh... I flip it lol

441NZD I need to pay for my visa base on https://www.immigration.govt.nz/process-to-apply/applying-for-a-visa/providing-evidence-and-documents-to-support-your-visa-application/visitor-visa-application-guide-for-citizens-of-china/

Start from zero...

Hotel cost ￥3055.25 = 439.89USD
Flight cost ￥8883 = 1278.96USD
Ticket cost 250USD
Visa cost 441NZD = 265.89USD

In total 3953.59USD = 27459.66CNY

Jesus.

Visa cost will not less a lot even I travel NZ from Australia because I need to pay accommodations and another fees in Australia 🤔

[fierce moth]

NZeTA itself is cheap... I don't find info about Americans need that 🤔 Americans just need their NZeTA and passport

But the best way is being a Australian

[junior oyster]

Because I'd be more inclined to watch

Also I thought it'd be obvious but I wasn't serious lol

[junior oyster]

Where and what was this ad lol

[junior oyster]

Damn blizcon must be rough

Oh wait it's some other trash

[sand wigeon]

you're so despicable

[silent steeple]

I haven't seen it myself cuz i honestly cba
But from what I read, the ad was abt one of the horse in the game/anime, which also happens to be really loved by japanese public apparently

[desert jasper]

It was on twitter

[silent steeple]

Or at least those who are aware of the horse's story

[desert jasper]

I wish people stopped giving money to peta tbh

[silent steeple]

Makes sense it would be on twitter 😂

[desert jasper]

Also the owners of the actual horses the umamusumes are based on weren't exactly happy about it either and threatened legal action

[silent steeple]

Completely understandable

Might be a bit of a stretch but imagine if ruining a memory/image for the sake of an agenda and ONLY when its relevant(trending) is made a punishable offence

Only organisations like peta and 98% of politicians would suffer so badly

[desert jasper]

Oh they'll also go after people who do fanart they don't approve of

Also apparently yakuza connections
horse betting is serious business

[silent steeple]

To be young, stupid and riddled in debt cuz of horse betting and have yakuza on ur heels

I wonder if theres an anime abt that 🤔

[obtuse rune]

I've found that there is an anime for just about everything

[silent steeple]

I bet there isn't one abt vending machines

[desert jasper]

There is

[silent steeple]

[desert jasper]

Isekai, if I don't remember it wrong

"reborn as a vending machine i now wander the dungeon"

[jade jackal]

This sounds like a plot to a Yakuza game all by itself

[neon sigil]

🐴 I would totally go to the budget option if I had disposeable income

[fierce moth]

you mean ultra vip ticket?

[neon sigil]

the cheapest one.

[fierce moth]

Get money from personal works is the 1st step, also the hardest one...

I wish I can go to German to join Gamescom once time

[gilded elm]

Leaving the house sounds like a hassle.

[obtuse rune]

https://tenor.com/view/true-correct-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-right-gif-23822659

[fierce moth]

I wish I have enough money to take a trip instead

A trip like no need to worry about I will miss the last bus, no need to worry about I must carry a heavy bag of food for 2h, no need to worry about someone will ask me to do something or I can't do something

This trip is for exploring local architectures and local food, plus.

[gilded elm]

You spend a lot of time just wishing about things, don't ya?

[junior oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

I finally bit the bullet

[abstract karma]

2 days for almost 2 weeks of food according spending on within your month lol

[obtuse rune]

BOARDGAMES!! 🥳

[junior oyster]

Yea the only one I care about lol

I love stardew valley/terraria but I don't feel the boardgame vibe from those

[obtuse rune]

I think they are def targeting certain audience with their event, too. For in person folks anyway

I love both of those games and forgot they even had board games.. I have a room filled with boardgames too aah

[junior oyster]

Damn

This will be my first one aside from London version of monopoly

[obtuse rune]

It always start with just one..

[junior oyster]

Haha nah in this case I just want StS only

Maaaybe StS2 when and if they make one lol

[fierce moth]

I can know how much money can I get after 2 more days, at the same time I need to spend time to understand le's story completely. Recent days are busy but feel good 🤔

I hope my collaboration with that boss can go well all the time so I can get experience as have worked on a game project

[junior oyster]

Also I kinda bought it cuz the base option got sold out and fell for the fomo thinking collectors edition might sell out soon lol

I wanted this so bad but sadly it's been sold out for over a month minimum

[carmine canopy]

@fierce moth what program are you using for those voxel creations

[fierce moth]

magicavoxel

[carmine canopy]

merci!

[obtuse rune]

That'd get you... I understand the feeling, though lol Happy you got it!

[junior oyster]

Thanks xD

[gilded elm]

Looks like this is about where it's been settling. Honestly, I've seen games recover from worse.

I think if they diligently iterate, they could come back.

I don't think requiring Secure Boot is a smart move, though. BF6 only barely gets away with it IMO.

I'm not opposed to Secure Boot, it's just that it becomes a noteworthy barrier to entry for a lot of people who are tech illiterate.

[twilit mountain]

I guess I'm always in secure boot or smth, I just downloaded the game and clicked play

[gilded elm]

Windows 11 requires the feature to exist, but doesn't require that it's enabled. But I imagine a lot of vendors, especially pre-built sellers will enable it in their builds.

[twilit mountain]

I'm on Win10

[gilded elm]

Enabling it requires navigating through the BIOS (technically UEFI) and this is where the tech literacy becomes a factor.

[twilit mountain]

I'll kick about in there later and see if it's on. My laptop did belong to Dream's father previously, who works in cybersecurity, so I wouldn't be surprised if he enabled it for something before he gave it to me

[gilded elm]

Laptop could've just came that way too, wouldn't surprise me.

[twilit mountain]

Also very possible yeah

[gilded elm]

Secure boot adoption is likely growing a lot, but I can imagine a significant portion of people who build their own PC might not have it enabled at all.

I didn't until fairly recently.

That said, people who build their own PC are probably nowhere near the majority of PC gamers.

Though I do think it's still a sizeable chunk.

[twilit mountain]

I can't afford to, shit's expensive

[fierce moth]

🙏 Daily worship for pro artworks I found on artstation

[jade jackal]

Concept artists are one of the strongest parts of the Diablo franchise

Absolute titans

[desert jasper]

If only the rest of blizzard made same quality

[desert jasper]

tbh i didn't build this pc either
the store had a good deal for it

[abstract karma]

oversaturated FPS market with similar graphic output..

I got no wonder it got suchs typical flame to be honest.. It doesn't offer nothing interesting to this overused gerne..
All what ppl wanted when they heard "devs of Titanfall" is Titanfall 3 anyway so 🤷‍♂️

[gilded elm]

Sure, but the main thing I'm noting is that the game's initial hate was largely based on outcry, not merit... which is valid to an extent.

I'm not one to dismiss the court of public opinion outright and more often than not, there's an understandable reason behind such negativity and even in this case I can understand people being angry.

However, I think the anger is mostly being misdirected at the game and people aren't really angry about the game being bad (people who think they're angry at the game are probably just being riled up by influencers who have a public image stake in the game failing).

Based on where the score has settled the past couple of days (close to 40%), I'd say the game is bad, but not terrible. Certainly not Concord levels of failure and definitely not "dead on arrival." I think if they continue to iterate on the game, they could rebuild its image and maybe see some return on their investment in the long-term.

I want to see what concurrent player counts look like in a week or two, to see where it settles in terms of people who actually like the game and want to keep playing it regularly. If that numbers stays in the thousands (even if it's below 10k), that's still impressive for a game that was dunked on as hard as it was.

And more importantly, it would be a signal to the devs that the game does indeed have potential for a larger audience.

[warped wren]

The court of public opinion used to have a modicum of merit back when it wasn't so ridiculously easy to rig and manipulate via social media

In today's day and age it doesn't matter one whit

People are utter morons, and more importantly, the utter morons / bad actors have tremendously amplified voices than they used to

[gilded elm]

Yeah it is one of the problems of democratizing opinions.

The fundamental flaw of any form of democracy.

The idiots can participate.

[junior stirrup]

Seems fairly common for sweaty gaming, but might turn away a whole bunch of peeps at the gates indeed.
Makes perfect sense if you've ever interacted with a Riot title, f.ex. 😄

[gilded elm]

Yeah, especially for a game that's struggling to maintain any kind of positive public image... I fear that requirement might have a meaningful impact on the shape and size of their audience.

[gilded elm]

I mean this broadly, of course. Not specifically referring to government. The idea that every person has an equal voice can easily break down any system where the ignorant represent a significant portion of the people participating in that system.

[warped wren]

The world needs a new governing system tbh, the current ones are not handling technocracy very well

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I mean, The Finals pulls like 10-15k usually and it's legit one of the best FPS games on the market. Frankly I don't think that games need their 100k+ CCU to be successful, or even like 20k tbh.

[gilded elm]

Yep, a live service game can be financially worthwhile with only 5k CCU too. Just depends on the game's monetization strategy and development/operational expenses for the studio. Assuming the devs intend to keep supporting and working on the game, I think there's a reasonable chance they can recover.

[sand wigeon]

It’s enabled by default

[fierce moth]

lol interesting. My boss mentioned chrono trigger

[junior stirrup]

A person of taste 🙂

[gilded elm]

[junior oyster]

They could have mentioned it in a negative light 🥹

But no CT is definitely awesome

I just wish they would do a remaster

[sudden anchor]

You have a job?

[fierce moth]

Not a job, it's a short-term commission more

I'm doing a 2-week trial with $25 per hour, to see how the collaboration going

I found it's a quite cool way to make sense on "time is valuable"

Context: my logic stay in regular salary per day before I did this commission, like $120 a day. That's quite a low efficiency way to inspire people do their jobs well because you can get this amount of money only regardless how much work you did

[fierce moth]

Maybe I can get more info about why Chrono trigger is inspiring from him 🤔

[silent steeple]

I found that networking is the most important part of any job these days

[gilded elm]

This is flawed logic. Value of creative work cannot be easily measured in time. Someone highly talented can produce a high value product in one day but charge thousands of dollars for the work.

It's about what people are willing to pay.

[fierce moth]

It's too luxury and rare...
Talented people always here, but bosses who can appreciate their talent, guide them to the next level and pay them well are too less

[gilded elm]

There's pros and cons to both, but a lot of freelancers also prefer a flat rate for commissions instead of hourly.

[fierce moth]

🙏 Daily worship for pro artworks I found on artstation
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8BPYAG

[fierce moth]

Traditional pastry/bread available here

(yes, city walk again. To get more hungry before the dinner)

[fierce moth]

The Thai bistro is opening.
I tried pad krapow pao instead of moo and one more single-sided fried egg this time.

Perfect flavour, no shortage :)

[vagrant topaz]

In art?

[fierce moth]

Voxel art

[vagrant topaz]

Nice!!

[fierce moth]

https://emilyvanlieshout.myportfolio.com/
Her skill level is quite scary...21 but like a pro already

Economic support she get is quite solid.

[neon sigil]

if I had the support I could do so much.

Oh well.

[silent steeple]

See when I feel like this I always reassure myself by remembering that saying

"No matter how good u are at something, there's always an asian kid out there who's better at it" and suddenly I don't feel so bad anymore

[fierce moth]

Found something interesting from supermarket I usually go tonight

Never eat any ladyfinger so it's interesting

[ebon meadow]

If u had tiramisu before u mostly had them

They are the biscuit base

[obtuse rune]

I wants

[fierce moth]

Yes, I never eat tiramisu with ladyfingers

[ebon meadow]

Its in the "original" recipe thing takes days to go soggy

Very dry on their own as well fair warning

[fierce moth]

Tiramisu - English
tilamisu - Chinese

[ebon meadow]

It's Italian but yep

[fierce moth]

what are you want?

[ebon meadow]

One of my best friend is Italian and a used to be a cook ,I never lacked good food and desert when we renting apartment

I need a build for tonight , I haven't planned anything,for Phrecia

Flicker is on the menu but I already have one in current league that I want to level

I want a caster or a minion

[obtuse rune]

Food. I want food.

I cannot provide any insight as I've not touched PoE1 in sometime but YOU got this

[fierce moth]

Point one food please 🤔

[obtuse rune]

The cookies you shared

[desert jasper]

I should prepare some food soon actually

[fierce moth]

I'm surprised that you want cookies instead of some pad krapow pao lol

[obtuse rune]

I'd eat that too

[fierce moth]

I'm sure you will find a Thai restaurant to get that

[fierce moth]

Right

9 years already, Otto. You still don't talk more...

[fierce moth]

Otto is replied to that quickly, I'm surprised.
Alright...

[indigo shadow]

Guys, new he-Man figure https://www.he-man.org/full-details-and-images-officially-revealed-for-masters-of-the-universe-chronicles-toyline/

He-man with He-Man

[fierce moth]

Ok perfect. What should I paint next is a good question...

[indigo shadow]

Vandryll, did you saw the new He-Man trailer?

[desert jasper]

Wish the poe event started earlier instead of 11pm my time

[indigo shadow]

what poe event?

[desert jasper]

phrecia

Tbh I'm only playing it for the free mystery box at lvl 50
there's another at lvl 90 but don't think i'll go for 90

oh there's also the nioh 3 beta 🤔

[twilit mountain]

I'm just not playing Phrecia

[junior oyster]

I've already uninstalled poe1 and 2

Will hopefully be playing some terraria tomorrow and over the weekend

Because on Monday the monster train 2 dlc comes out

[desert jasper]

Honestly I'm only playing to 50
because I don't wanna put in actual effort for a build
might download the Nioh3 demo and monster hunter wilds again to see if the performance is any better now

[twilit mountain]

Oh apparently my kickass ring finally sold

[twilit mountain]

I just don't like the "every area has additional modifiers" thing, and the ascendancies aren't really interesting to me.

[desert jasper]

Ah.. I actually forgot that's a thing

[twilit mountain]

xddBusiness

[mental talon]

Once I get a Gull I'm gonna do some unethical things

https://pobb.in/yhEW7htlGJry

I think Paradoxica and Ele Hit with Combat Focus might be more damage but Grey Wind sounds more fun

[gilded elm]

Very cool lol

[desert jasper]

Oh yea... now that Nioh 3 demo is out
maybe I should actually play through Nioh2 at some point 🤔

[fierce moth]

His reason

[gilded elm]

Basically it's a masterpiece.

[junior oyster]

There is a reason Judd used CT as a inspiration

[fierce moth]

I wonder what the relationship between these two games 😅

[desert jasper]

Yeah, Chrono Trigger is gorgeous

[gilded elm]

Hot take: I liked Chrono Cross too

[desert jasper]

I haven't actually played either one of them

[fierce moth]

🤔 I'm curious about how this game going

[desert jasper]

But I did watch some Chrono Cross speedruns and it seemed fun enough

Have to admit that I don't actually remember the music that well

[cold ore]

You can always go with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3sVC30oJ6c to really lean in to misremembering things 😛

[fierce moth]

Do one of features of rougelike games is I can't heal myself in a game to test my skills by how long can I survive?

[gilded elm]

Roguelike today just means permadeath + procedurally generated content

Roguelite usually means Roguelike + metaprogression

[fierce moth]

...Alright, ravenswatch isn't my tea

Healing part is too poor... I can't heal myself enough to survive

This game is for hc players more and I'm doubt can I say myself a sc player

One point I know is UI. Ravenwatch's UI is much more polished than for the king 2 :)

I prefer games which test my intelligence. Games which depend on action skills just too tough

[obtuse rune]

That UI looks really neato

[fierce moth]

I'm good at crafting cobblestones more now :)

Much more smooth than cobblestone paths appeared in my past le fan art so I'm proud of that.
It's a mini teaser too.

[warped wren]

I am about to hit 100 hrs in Shape of Dreams

I have no idea how that happened lmao

[fierce moth]

is it support me to heal myself by potions in combats/I can heal myself in any time?

[obtuse rune]

AYEE. That's great. Assuming you like it alot?

[junior oyster]

Not the same but there is a game similar to it for single player and no roguelike in terms of art style (I mean there probably plenty lol)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/439190/Stories_The_Path_of_Destinies/

[gilded elm]

Probably avoid Action Roguelikes if you want them to be easier. Action Roguelikes are usually skill-based.

[ebon meadow]

I m lost what is rogue like today, Hades is roglike right ?

Summs in my head to a hardcore RPG at this point

[junior oyster]

Hades is a roguelike yes

[gilded elm]

Modern Rogue-likes are just permadeath with procedurally generated content.

[ebon meadow]

So yea the old arcade games with permadeath

[gilded elm]

There's "Traditional Roguelike" if you want the more traditional definition, which is permadeath, procedurally generated dungeon crawler that is turn-based/grid/tile-based

[ebon meadow]

So I get angry loosing 10% xp in Poe ,I stay away fromt hose games

They fun when u playing with a group of friends

[junior oyster]

I feel less angry dying in roguelikes than in poe

PoE death penalty is complete bs

[gilded elm]

The idea of combining Action and Roguelike is that the looming permadeath of each run raises the stakes.

[warped wren]

Mobs sometimes drop potions. There's multiple ability modifications to help heal and generate shields as well.

[ebon meadow]

That's fair because Ur brain already assimilated what happens if u die so u sort of prepare for it

[warped wren]

But yeah I mean the idea of roguelites is to not get hit, for the most part

[ebon meadow]

Almost 9 k hours and I still refuse to play HC outside gauntlet in Poe

[warped wren]

Yep, really goated game

[junior oyster]

Unlike poe with bs deaths roguelikes you can usually anticipate

[ebon meadow]

Imaging ripping at 98+

[junior oyster]

And in games like Slay the Spire if you die 99% of the time it's because you messed up on a micro or macro level

[obtuse rune]

It's been on my wishlist with...many others

[fierce moth]

hah yes it's why I must avoid roguelike games 👍

[gilded elm]

A lot of Roguelikes today are closer to being Roguelites (basically Roguelike that includes metaprogression) and the metaprogression makes losing a run less painful.

[warped wren]

I'd buy it, it's really worth

[fierce moth]

I prefer tank damage

[ebon meadow]

Yea but it's stil a very punishable mechanic ,we are humans one time at some time u WILL make a mistake rather it's an arm twich or microsecond mental breakdown . It's so punishable

[gilded elm]

Right, there's usually less skill in taking damage than avoiding it.

[warped wren]

Tbf Shape of Dreams is one of those roguelites where you can break the game in the non-crazy mode quite easily

[junior oyster]

Yea Hades would probably be considered a roguelite tbf because you can take certain buffs with you

[warped wren]

Especially with a couple characters

[junior oyster]

StS on the other hand is definitely a roguelike aside from the initial unlocks you get

[warped wren]

You can do that in SoD but it takes a bit of setting up. Can't do it from lv 1

[junior oyster]

I imagine Kirra would enjoy vampire survivors

[ebon meadow]

Hades is a very good game but for my set up of brain I d go COD lobby on that

[junior oyster]

It's a fairly chill roguelite

[gilded elm]

Yeah, can be blurry to know where you actually draw the line. Some might say any progress earned from a run is metaprogression.

[ebon meadow]

There's a very good one that ziz and team was playing

[twilit mountain]

Nah we should send her to the deep end. Hit up Crypt of The Necrodancer

[gilded elm]

I don't think she has developed an appreciation for pixel art.

[ebon meadow]

Ea survivals if u want a person to break they spirit to play

[junior oyster]

Ah yea

She has specific likes I get you

Then maybe she'd enjoy megabonk? o.o

Though I'm definitely not a fan of that game

[fierce moth]

o.o

[twilit mountain]

Pixel art aside that game is built to genuinely break you down until you fully internalize every aspect of it. Surface level it's not that difficult but the further you get into it the more and more the game expects you to raise your skill level and adapt to it. And then if you're a psychopath you can practice for hundreds to thousands of hours to attempt 100% completion.

[gilded elm]

Megabonk can be skill heavy

[junior oyster]

Right

[fierce moth]

The art is too awful too

[junior oyster]

Which game are you talking about?

[gilded elm]

Megabonk has great art

The music slaps too

[twilit mountain]

Necrodancer. It's considered one of the hardest games to fully complete on the entire genre within the roguelike community.

[junior oyster]

Unfortunately the art is what made me go nah

[gilded elm]

Though to be fair, a lot of Megabonk's artistic style comes from the MKToon shader from the Unity asset store.

[junior oyster]

Oh yea I'd never play that game lol

[warped wren]

sus

[twilit mountain]

I have single digit wins on that game, it's brutal

[desert jasper]

I love Necrodancer
i was seriously concidering getting a dancepad just for that game
buut I don't think the ppl living below me would appreciate it

[warped wren]

Megabonk looked like uninspired slop to me, I genuinely didn't understand the hype

I guess it's impressive that it's a one-person project, good on them

[twilit mountain]

Probably wouldn't like that but that's the most gigachad way of playing the game

[warped wren]

but not something I'd pay for personally

[junior oyster]

As a StS and MT fan I never understood why people like a poker game

Balatro

[desert jasper]

Maybe if I'll actually live on the first floor some day

[warped wren]

I don't play card games so I don't really have a take on Balatro

[twilit mountain]

I'm like 85% sure someone completed the hardest run possible on a dance pad (every character in a row, no pick-ups, all hidden bosses, no damage taken)

[junior oyster]

I mean fair but I meant I feel a similar way. I don't feel balatro is slop though.

[warped wren]

oh well time for some daily Darktide

aka the greatest combat game ever

I will not be taking counter opinions at this time

[twilit mountain]

Like I said Nub. Psychopath behavior to finish it

[gilded elm]

This skepticism of the game's difficulty is so common haha, common enough that people frequently express being surprised when they actually play it. It's not a particularly deep game in terms of builds, but it's definitely a challenging game.

[warped wren]

Driptide

[twilit mountain]

The devs removed some of the trophies on Playstation because it was too hard to get platinum lol

[twilit mountain]

Bane

[warped wren]

(don't ask how much money it cost to buy those cosmetics)

[junior oyster]

Can you play crypt on a no soundtrack?

[warped wren]

Space Marine from Wish

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, but you'll need to pay very close attention to the beat tracker

[gilded elm]

Me is Primarch

[twilit mountain]

(Idk why you would play no soundtrack tbh, it's got phenomenal music. Which is, y'know, kinda the point of it being a hybrid rhythm game)

[junior oyster]

No I was just wondering lol

Like would your char and enemies not 'dance to the beat' in silent mode

[twilit mountain]

The sequel is like... Guitar Hero-esque? I haven't played it yet but it looks fun

[twilit mountain]

Nah they still do. For some it's probably easier than normal.

Pretty sure it removes the uh... streak mechanic though. Not sure how to call that

You get bonuses for maintaining the beat basically

[junior oyster]

Yea don't get me wrong I don't plan on buying this but was just curious lol

[fierce moth]

https://www.instagram.com/6vcr/
I will just play pixel games whose environment art and character art are made only by her. Unfortunately I don't hear she have joined in development of any pixel games.

But I know a pixel game which 100% environment art drew by pixels and on the top level is bionic bay. I dislike platform-jump-relevant gameplay so I don't buy that

[junior oyster]

But it makes sense that there would still be moving to the beat

[gilded elm]

It's your loss lol

[twilit mountain]

Damn. Kirra doesn't like the Oddworld series then. Shame.

[gilded elm]

Some of the best games (even recently) are pixel art games.

[junior oyster]

I guess it's a different situation with her if she is an artist

[twilit mountain]

As I've said before, I have played over 100 different roguelikes/lites and my favorite of them is by far Risk of Rain Returns. Is it objectively the best quality one I have ever played? No, not at all, but I love it despite it's flaws.

[gilded elm]

I'm no artist, but I feel an artist who expands experiences and appreciates different styles of art can only make them better artists :P

[junior oyster]

I mean yea I feel like she is missing out a lot but if she doesn't like it, she doesn't like it

[desert jasper]

Sounds like a thing for me then

[junior oyster]

I'm kinda sad she never even wanted to try Bastion

Such an amazing game imo

[gilded elm]

I haven't played Bastion but I've heard a lot of praise. I should try it

[junior oyster]

I mean it's obviously dated compared to Hades but it's my fav game from the devs

[desert jasper]

I haven't actually played Bastion either

[twilit mountain]

I urge every artist (and frankly ever person) to play Sable at least once. Absolutely beautiful game, and one of the best experiences I have ever had in a digital medium. It's not as "video game-y" as the vast majority of things on the market. It is an exploration experience and imo pretty much unmatched 3D art piece first and foremost.

[desert jasper]

Huh
Why isn't my pob updating with the phrecia stuff 🤔

[twilit mountain]

It might already be? It's an alternate tree thing. Or smth broke

[desert jasper]

ooh right, yea forgot about the alternate

Tbh I haven't planned anything
I guess I might go for arakaali ascendancy for the free lvl 15 envy and slap on some poison

[twilit mountain]

Click Envy -> click a chaos attack -> call it a day

[desert jasper]

Also can't even play that long tonight anyway
Going for lunch with the sis tomorrow

Yeah, that's my plan
It's just that when it comes to making the skill tree lul

[twilit mountain]

What's that shitass ranged dagger one that you basically start the game with on Shadow?

Cobra Lash?

Just do that

[desert jasper]

Yeah I'm probably going cobra lash honestly
I think I played that on my last shadow until uhh.. I can't actually remember what skill I used

if it's smooth enough I might go for lvl 90
i'll have to see, really

<@&1161418687471956101> them spambots at it again

[twilit mountain]

Get rich quick wawoawaowaowwaowowoww

[desert jasper]

Get rich quick? Too good to be true? surely not a scam

I think last phrecia I played .... poison srs? with arakaali ascendancy
I didn't have a good time

[ebon meadow]

3 min , back to beach and GL ❤️

[desert jasper]

Ye, gl

[ebon meadow]

hug the tree

wait do we even get tree ?

lol

[desert jasper]

Nah there was a spambot

we do get the tree

[warped wren]

Oh cool new Darktide event that makes the regular chill mode noticeably harder

Fun

[desert jasper]

oh shit hillock enrage

[ebon meadow]

xdd

guantlet rage activated

how people sop fast yesu

[desert jasper]

and maven too

[ebon meadow]

i forgot about this first death

[desert jasper]

I died twice to hillock

[ebon meadow]

same

now i rember why i play ranger in things like this

[desert jasper]

Why was there 2 haildrakes 🤔

And now it's just giving me failed to join any instances.

[ebon meadow]

mud flats ?

same thing here

[desert jasper]

Yup, flats

[ebon meadow]

cnrl click

[desert jasper]

It doesn't do anything.

[ebon meadow]

i intantly entered spamming

[desert jasper]

"oh hey, I pressed ctrl click and cliked new instance. IT STILL SAYS FAILED TO JOIN INSTANCES"

Thanks Jonathan

Yeah look, it took me 2minutes of spamming clicking

[ebon meadow]

yep now i have the same thing xdd

maan it take to much for games to lauch stuff smooth doesnt it

i think servers are getting hammered

one to many joining intances at same time

ok i got the WP thank hell

[desert jasper]

I guess they didn't pay for additional server space for the event

Eh i'll just go & sleep
Also entire act1 seems to have that "unique monsters enrage on low life"

[ebon meadow]

i have a full diner and few beers , just gonna bash my head low farming

all weekend left to play still ,no need to race

do have work launch on saturday but for rest just gonna farm and then roll something on sunday

something broken

[desert jasper]

Well it's already past 11pm here
And I'd rather sleep early than wait for who knows how many hours for them to fix issues

[ebon meadow]

i m an hour early than you

still 22:28 here

i do have an uncle work time i start at 9:30 at work xdd

i can push some hours still

[vagrant topaz]

Perfect time to start a ranked

[desert jasper]

Well I don't currently have a job
But i'd rather not screw my sleep schedule. no game is worth that

[twilit mountain]

Perfect time to engage in scumbag tactics on Magic The Gathering Arena. If you aren't dropping 10 creatures on turn 5 you're doing it wrong.

[ebon meadow]

my body and brain dont let me have a sleep shedule , i have sleep depravation lul

i sleep 6 hours a day and my body nukes me in to like 10 hour sleep on satuday night

i need to get back to gym somehow

[twilit mountain]

I have a circadian rhythm disorder and chronic insomnia. I sleep when my body let's me sleep. Whether that's 5AM or 8PM, whenever it's ready is the only time I get to. 😔

[ebon meadow]

yea waking up at 4 am and u body well fk you i m active is great

YT shorts feed of people like me

[gilded elm]

Damn you, scammers! :(

[gilded elm]

I am going to wipe out this entire sect.

[desert jasper]

Are people still having issues going to new zones in poe?

[junior stirrup]

Generally solved shortly after it started happening around launch.

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhhh Omg

Fancy clothes for lady and man can go up to a scary amount. No difference

A set of bespoke suite maybe more expensive than a trip to NZ. POG

hhhhhhh I'm blind on clothes. I can't say which one looks the most handsome

Bespoke. hah interesting... Top clothes is spoke themselves

[stone anvil]

3rd one looks good

[urban iris]

i agree

[stone anvil]

and other jackets are wide, especially 2nd and 5th looking like someone for bigger size

1 is okay but it has essence of someone with more casual, more confident style, I think the man in the video is little nervous and maybe has some pressure on him

and 4th jacket has square pattern that I only see seniors

[fierce moth]

It's his final suit

[stone anvil]

tight shoulders, necktie and hair made the execution on this suit so good

this is better than 5 jackets on the other video and nice direct angle

everyone can glow up with right clothes 🥰

[sand wigeon]

where is the glow up lol they look like a normal person at the start

aside from the weird black mocap suit

[sand wigeon]

This is because the fashion industry is a scam

Something like an expensive suit is seen as a "status symbol" so it's price is jacked up so you can brag, basically

Women's clothing is inherently more expensive than men's thanks to industry sexism

You're almost never paying for the cost of materials lol

There are situations where you are, but even then the margins are usually high on the providers side

[sand wigeon]

holy shit i don’t want to talk to you