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🤔 No offense but I think it's sleep time for both of Americans and Europeans
Of course it's still early for the west of America
I really enjoyed this recent video from Dr. K:
"How AI is Killing Your Potential" - https://youtu.be/BzsLbHoNXTs
Basically explains the dangers of using it to replace your critical thinking entirely, apparently this is starting to become a bigger issue in schools.
k Im at Zarokh
Whoever needs just let me know you're IGN and I'll invite
@fierce moth are you ready
yes. Which trial?
Huh? Just tell me your in game name, teleport to me and wait outside the boss room.
pathofKirra
Ascendency points are got
...Sigh. I bet amulet is the most valuable item Deias is equipping
Always a fan of luxury jewelleries and embroidery.
https://www.silverpalace.cn/zh-cn/entrance
@blissful token Maybe you heard this game before? The first public playtest is coming, you can join that by filling a form
no, not familiar
This scene from silvertown looks quite familiar... Abyss 👀 Let's back to poe 2
【《白银之城》首曝PV+实机展示丨侦探的黄金时代】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BdEMzQEqq/?p=4&share_source=copy_web&vd_source=f75b5609f6ae0e87186e4c5cae13f074
I remembered I shared that here, in that day. Maybe you forgot, no worries, let's watch it again
we will know what the gamplay is soon 🤔
I want to find a Chinese game which not relevant to paper girls and available to test in next year. No news yet
I hope I hear more news about that in 2026
Poe2, trying the drood
Obviously 😁
But by then I'll finish my Poe 2 run and probably give D4 a good try
I admit this stash skin match with shrine hideout much more
I hate silverfist so much lol
Didn't die but why does he keep spamming his rage attack
I felt that his slam did less dmg this league
Think they nerfed his slam damage
They did, twice
Around the broken pillar
Zaccie made some reddit posts on the tuning, you're still likely to die if you're hit square in the face, it was more about making it kinder if you're just clipped by the very end of the damage area.
Still supposed to punish hubris 😄
I see
oh I saw that 2 days ago
That was the first time I see GGG's game designer would appear on the community and communicate with players
random question, any streamers use shrine hideout?
Ah great
abyss.. and none of the abyss monster models are rendering
how are they looks when they're not rendering?
Probably invisible lol
No idea about favoured hideouts, many tend to do as tight a packed map device and stash/NPCs as they can for efficiency 😄
hah, Nub is attacking the air?!
I guess all GGG members are free to use any hideouts? I'm curious about what your hideout looks
Casting spells at air
And one of them teleported next to me and since I didn't see it I died to the chaos shit it left on ground
Skill issue clearly
I hope future fan art competitions can reward paid hideout to bonus the pool 👀
I don't have any special powers in my account, I've got plenty of points and hideouts from past packs 😄
I hate the matalan waterways
I like Cartographer's in PoE1, it's muted and cozy.
Oh yeah, I'd heard you're one o' them. Whatcha do, zao?
Yeah, even Bex had to buy the divination card thingy
didn't get it for free
pictures please 👀
Who's bex?
barrel is filled with my yearly batch of wine, time to play PoE2 😄
Bex sounds familiar but I don't remember who's that
Former community manager at GGG
Old community manager at GGG, she was very sociable and a huge shitposter within the community. She left GGG a few years ago and has been to a couple different companies since.
Used to have little rugs under the portals from the map device.
I see I see
Oh damn I even forget who's Bex
Internal build tooling and gameplay code.
Oh great
also the abyss chaos ground isn't showing...
This sure is fun
waitttttt... You're GGG staff, but you still need to pay stash tabs/mtx/hideouts if you want one of them?
I think there should be way more than 2-3 checkpoints in matlan waterways
OHHHHHH yes me too. I like that the most.
I think I have like 16k points to spend now.
I don’t think devs should get everything for free lol
Pretty normal as far as I'm aware? Some companies give their employees special identifiers in some manner but not usually free paid stuff, it's typically exclusive stuff for staff that the normal players can't get
Or stuff that only devs can give out, like the Riot Games charm in Valorant
I don't think it's normal... Come on? .... Why they can't get these MTX for free?
Like WoTC gives their employees exclusive titles and avatars in MTGA
Because they’re still just normal people
And if devs aren’t charged for anything it encourages them to jack up the price
Which worsens it for the average consumer
Keeping them closest to the average consumer creates the best synergy between devs and players
Plus, there are plenty of devs who don’t play the games they work on
To me it makes sense that you can't get something that others consider valuable, especially if it's something time-limited like supporting the game before launch or otherwise having something rare.
It's the equivalent of working in a supermarket and the employer going take whatever you want as much as you want
Does it make sense?
TBF if the supermarket was good, they would do that
Supermarkets have so much waste
They throw tons of stuff out
True but that's a different point lol
Supermarket could also get sued if they give away something and someone gets food poisoning from it
Yeah pretty much. I worked in a rather large grocery store and still had to pay. I got discounted, sure, but they didn't just give me it for free (outside of break room snacks and coffee to make shifts easier)
Counterpoint: don’t give it away
Employees have cards. Let the cards make purchases of items labelled “discarded” for $0.
That makes it a purchase, just a heavily discounted one, which means it falls on the item provider as normal
🤔 they'll have employee discount but can't get them for free. I don't know supermarket but IKEA is following this rule
You could track batch number that way for recalls, too
I'm aware of discounts
And if an employee gets a pear for free and then they eat a rotten pear that is in fact not the supermarkets fault lol
The employee should not have eaten a rotten pear
You don't want something special to let your hideout looks more unique?
And if something is contaminated, that IS in fact the supermarket’s fault and they should get sued for it
I can get free credit for cloud compute from my employer, so it just varies by employer really.
You get credit
Discounts and benefits are normal
I’m talking about getting discarded items for free
Nah. I like that I play by the same rules as everyone else.
Well the original conversation was about digital goods and GGG employee discounts/free stuff, which is what I was comparing against
Mm
I do have way too many PoE hoodies and shirts tho 😄
Share?
I just use the nebula hideout with pretty much no decorations lul
Tbf I thought Kirra was arguing for fully free stuff hence my comparison of supermarkets
🤔 I discovered something fresh through this chat definitely...
Deias needs more clothes
hhhhhhhhhhhh
I assume GGG employees get swag packages every once in a while, including stuff like hoodies, t-shirts and other merch
Pretty normal thing for tech companies, at least
We can’t really afford anything new so I’m rocking clothes that don’t fit me and she’s still wearing clothes from like eight years ago
But she lives in a colder place now so she needs warmer clothes lol
I have so much Guidepoint shit
Lol
It let me think a lot.
me like free stuff
If I had the income to buy $400+ supporter packs every league I'd be covered in PoE merch 
Get that income
Start a cult
You're funny
Alright speaking of poe2 do I need to do molten vault again or previous kill in other leagues count?
Gotta do it again 
I’m not. You never laugh at my jokes…
F
Ty
cross-league progression? you must be out of your mind, we don't do that here.
No league state carries on into new leagues.
I just skip that quest until I need it. I don't usually need it until like, way late in maps.
Well, stash tab layout and names do, but that doesn't count 😄
Well yea I could skip it but I still need the wp lol
Ah fair
I agree, it counts. Therefore, we must reset stash tab layout and names every league as well

Agreed
A player told me today that you can apparently kite the boss out of the lava molten metal.
Imagine if killing the map version of molten vault gave the unlock
emmmm I don't want that as my hideout
You can! It's annoying though, hence why I just ignore it and come back later to one tap it
I'm talking about the salvage bench or w/e it is you unlock
Well it’s not all about you, now is it, Kirra
Not the hideout
Recomb bench? 3-2-1?
We should be able to have the stupid Beast orb as our hideout
I want to go in it like a pokeball
Ah yea your laptop right?
Yup
that's too...sounds too...Scary lol
No, she plays on a supercomputer. It’s housed in my attic and costs $29.2 million to run for a week.
Poor little 1660 workin its ass off so I can get my funny loot
Damn my old pc had a 970
I’ve offered her my slightly better laptop but she always says no
4th gen i5
Is your old PC from the 90’s
Was close enough lol
"Slightly better" it has a 3060 in it, twice my RAM, and a significantly better CPU
I had a PC from the 90's. We had Pentiums and Celerons back then :P
Okay so take it
No
See?
I'm not taking your laptop, it's yours
64gb hdd and 512mb ram
Windows millennium 😭
? oh so Hallow have 2 laptops? One is 3060, the other one is 4070
Well technically it’s not
Sounds about right... we had Windows 98 SE. It was a Compaq PC lol
I never got into mmos till many years later because we didn't have net
I have no desktop computer
Basically skipped the older net
Before broadband
Uh forgot what it was called lol
What’s broadband
Dial-up, and then ADSL after that
Yea
so I have this wrong memory for 1 year
It’d probably help if you knew the language you spoke to me in
I had dial-up from 2016 to 2018 
It's also partially why I'm not a big fan of mmos and most multiplayer based games
I imagine that causes a lot of confusion
Dial-up in 2016 is wild lmao
She’s ✨ underprivileged ✨
We had broadband in Korea in the late 90s
It’s pretty normal from what I’ve seen
Damn dial-up is essentially dead in most of EU
I know people where I live who still only have dial-up and home-wired phones
Also I don't think we have one ISP monopoly here but apparently in the US it's usually one ISP monopoly
There’s tons of ISP’s
Family was very, very poor for the majority of my life and during that time we lived in the middle of nowhere in NC (it stopped being the middle of nowhere shortly after we moved to a different city, development in that state is rapid)
In the US it's a regional monopoly.
dial-up is a phone or what
The problem is that it’s usually one ISP per area
Remember, the USA is basically 52 countries
Pretending to be one country
I never hear dial-up
Yeah understandable, still comes as a bit of a shock that dial-up was readily available at all in 2016 (or even today)
It’s old internet before modern internet
It was a way to connect
It’s very slow
Yea I wasn't sure of the entire thing but that's kinda what I meant
Thanks for explaining it though
Basically in the US, the FCC carves up these little monopolies/duopolies amongst all of the ISPs so that everyone has their "turf"
So like every 30 mile radius or whatever is a turf that belongs to 1 or 2 ISPs.
I notice people forgetting that the USA is basically if the EU combined into one super-country and struggle to conceptualize that each state in the USA is not like a region or county, but a whole entire country
It's super dumb.
So we do actually have a decent number of ISPs overall, but almost everyone in the country never has more than 1 or 2 choices in their area.
I’m going to make my own ISP
Wire the cables through the mole tunnels that span the USA
From the mole people
Although, I may struggle in the southeast, IDK if the underground gators will be friendly to my mole servants
Neuron activation. WoD lore detected.
Burgermen? Nah. Fiberopticcablemen
It could always be worse. We could be as bad as Australia's ISPs.
never see that indeed... Very fresh.
I even never see that landline phone. Never exist in my world
I hate that this years Solstice fell on Sunday
Everything where I live is closed on Sunday for church
I used to get in trouble for using the internet when I was a kid because my dad couldn't use the phone.
“Yeah in college they called me a fiber-seeking backhoe”
Are these things actually cutting a lot of fiber lines? lol
Yes
People don’t properly plot out where the fiber lines on their property are
Construction crew comes in to clear land for a project
They hot a fiber lines
Construction company has to payout to the fiber company and fix it
rip internet for whole neighborhoods
Operators tend to care more about things that can harm them like high voltage or gas. A bit of fiber conduit is just a good snack.
It’s crazy expensive and can often cause the entire construction company to shut down
In my hometown they were accidental water line finders. Rolled in to do some landscaping, whoopsies whole neighborhood has brown water for the next three weeks
In the decade I worked at the uni I think we had two digger-caused outages of networking and one amusing work order incident.
We had geographically opposite network links for a reason, and they may not be laid closer than like 15 meters from each other.
We should dismantle cell phone towers
We lost both within minutes once leading to complete network blackout.
Somehow, someone, somewhere, had managed to make a work order to the staff at the telco building downtown to disconnect both of our feeds from the patch panels at the interchange.
Never really figured out who were at blame there, probably settled the whole incident somehow.
It was me
Makes sense.
I LOVE EATING FIBER OPTIC CABLES
Viper time
See how many times I die...
Ofc I don't have any chaos res so that doesn't help either lol
are you a mice by any chance ?
Lol I got stuck in the mobs...
A mice? No, and I’m not a mouse either
Classic annoying fight
welp, just something that kept happening where I work at lmao
People turned out to be mice???
I had that happen on my first time on minion build
my minions did eventually kill her but it took ages
xD
IT got called, because mice kept eating the fiber optic cables in server room
Should’ve just killed the mice lol
What’s IT going to do
They can fix the cables but not the root cause
hilariously enough one of the IT guys grabbed a screwdriver, but it just ran away
I catch them with plastic containers
Or my cats do and then I have to scruff them and pull mice out of their mouths
They love you, shut up
They go “MEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOŒW”
They're cats. They're gonna make noise.
They should learn silence, like the Buddha
But you did it!
It's freaking rng fight if anything
It is a phenomenally bad fight imho
It’s PoE2. It’s a bad game
It's hard to get chaos res before maps
Honestly she is harder than the a3 boss
Small wonder he joins us
Pretty sure she has more health than him for some reason, too
I didn't have that issue but it was the phase where she gets the soldiers to attack you
And apparently she doesn't take damage in that phase
!
She sure doesn't! Why? Idk
Damn you rice
Oh so I was right lol
What's the value on this guy rn?
Also at times I couldn't see her lol
350 chaos seems to be the lowest
Alva you've been captured lol
x'D
That was quite a good unique map
Alright doryani time
Good money. Nice find
cool. Now I need to decide which one look better, clam or royal
...Not reach to my account yet
Ok didn't fail trial #2
Game too easy smh
Own this trash ring too
Just sell/salvage it
I don't agree
Shrug
I think I have something don't render too
Honestly this button should be above the play button
welp also idk why it so hard for them to implement option to log in hideout..
neat
my beloved
that's a fun little rune, I wonder how much is it worth
turns out, quite a bit
5 divs D:
Yeah that's a big one
Pretty sure the move speed one is the most expensive
I sure love that half the time I open the atlas it bugs out and needs to be opened 4 more times before it lets me interact 👍
It's a feature
Well. wonderful
abyss in map
9 monsters left, none in that area of the map
the abyss isn't closing

how to overrun abyssal?
Get lucky.
oh...Not enough points to active that even
It takes two points in the abyss tree.
I'm bothered with sudden deaths (Just complete a ritual)
I really don't know how to help you. I'm level 92 and the vast majority of my deaths are in campaign. Every death I have had in maps bar exactly two of them has been obvious player error on my end.
Surprisingly didn't die to Marveil
hhhhhhhh I surivive in cross green ray from 2 abyssal elf just now!!!!
Amazing
I'm frozen but I'm not slain?!
Abyss continues to deliver
3 elf actually. I survived in 1m 16s. Too hard...
Girlie, how are you doing negative damage
I see Kira's ES and Life, I should invest more into defensive stats
She has way more ES than I do
I don't understand why too
Skill issue curse is live I guess
I have like 1700/2000 lmao
plus my 900 or so mana
Cool
The humble CI character
I've like 2000 life and a bit over 1k ES
I need more chaos resistance
I will switch to CI once I get the gem that lets me use STR for energy shield
Lich needs to be chaos res capped since you take double damage to ES from chaos and your main defense is being able to ignore any change to life while you have ES
yeah, that makes sense
but even Templar and Druid likely can go for it
it's just a quite expensive defensive choice
I on the other hand jsut get to use CI because I can just, wear pure ES gear and call it a day
Defense? In an ascendancy? Never heard of it.
I actually have no idea how much is my only defensive ascendancy node doing
it makes critical hits and damage I take unlucky
It very likely prevents me from taking huge damage spikes from random crits ?
Yeah that's pretty good actually
I do until I remember playing piano with them
It's decent
I just set them to autocast now lol
Most ascendancy nodes in poe2 are shit for defense
With the recharge mods
Who pianos flasks in the year 2025?
Also where we no longer piano with flasks
pretty much, Lich and Titan are likely the two only exceptions
We are pianoing skills xD
I ain't even doing that anymore!
Some people may have a one skill setup in poe2 idk
I'm so happy I got the cast on crit going on
though it activates like 50 times in boss fight so it drains my mana very fast
I have 32 second cursed ground with a total of 4 cursed ground areas, you think I'm piano-ing? 
Oracle sounds like CoC ascendancy
I am an oracle, yes
still need to get some more crit chance though
and then crit dmg
Load times are so freaking unbearable
Charm sold, +120c
GGG is clearly starving their hamsters in server rooms
at least given how unstable my PoE2 sessions were 😐
oh...Forget lv 19 skill gem and spirit gems I invested before... Time to use
Sheesh killed beni without dying. Wasn't expecting that
Beni?
Ah
Man, I sort of want to go & sleep already
But it's too early
wheeze
I was wondering why I'm getting so many shrines in my maps
then I realized that the 2nd one of my tablets has 96% increased chance for shrines
we know PoE 2 events are after PoE 1.. can somebody tell me why Beast of PoE 1 is so weak and in PoE 2 its has infinite power ?
Deias own an invisible amulet which buff 1000% luck definitely
Oh if only you knew

I have over 50 hours on this character and run 6 mod maps with triple abyss tablets in under 5 minutes. It's not luck, I'm just pulling the lever constantly
My luck is actually anomalous levels of bad for the most part, I've played every single PoE1 league since early 2017 and have never owned a mirror and I've only ever dropped three T0 items. Ever. Even during Affliction, where I had a 4 to 5 mirror value MF Chieftain I made all my money by liquidating things because I couldn't rely on raw drops.
I did the best unique farm in the game during Settlers, a strategy that would print T0 items for most people, and didn't even pull a T1 item from it, I ended up farming nearly 2,000 divines off of primarily scarab explosions.
Guys where you get last abyss atlas point ? One guy of aliance wanted ask and to be honest i've havent reach there yet so idk at all and wiki havent that info written
Last abyss point you get by beating Vessel of Kulemak at full strength
so uber lvl ?
Uh, there's not levels to Vessel. Just get a kulemak's invitation and do the fight from last league.
Click one of the liches between each phase and then hit "Return The Finger" when that option shows up
This shit goes crazy in T15, can pull millions if you're lucky
Well
I am never lucky
guy saying that "he is hitting that 3x times" so idk (?)
Okay so basically each time you kill the vessel you'll have the option to take the ring or click one of the guys on the thrones behind it. Click one of the guys on the thrones three times.
Almost be slain... This vaal monster is move quite quickly
I was not really expecting my drink to come out like this
What's that?
It's just a blueberry lemonade, hence why I was expecting just normal cup sitch
Hmm he saying is doing that what i have been describe tho he is not on league but standard
Uh... I'm not sure what you're saying. I've done it this league. It's exactly as I have stated.
saying he dont play league but his last character from previous one
I don't believe it has been changed at all
It's not like the fight randomly works differently in standard.
not work differently but maybe bug ? Idk that's all what have been told to me so either way he dont do it properly as you have described or idk
...I'm not expect such a long distance from the beginning to the end in ravine at all...
Idk man, we might be getting language barriers here
After getting my div I'm lowkey tempted to pay for asc skip
Was definitely not expecting to fight silverfist again through a vaal ruin ritual thing
🫠 Just very closed. Wolfs block my paths, the boss give me heavy attack, revived corrupted enemies reduce my attack time. No chance to survive...
I can probably carry you if you focus on not getting hit
Nah I wanna try and see if I can do it solo besides I don't really need asc in campaign
Alrighty
If I do change my mind however would you be willing to help? :P
Sure, I'm out rn but I should be back in under an hour
Lol I meant like in the near future or something
Yeah no worries. Just give me a shout if you need it, long as I'm awake and available I gotchu
:(
Can't complete a corrupted nexus map yet, accidents always happen
Also holy shit I hate shade walker abyss mobs
the chaos cloud they leave is just ridiculous
They hate you too
But they are the teleport ones?
Yes, they're the ones that teleport next to you and make a massive cloud of chaos on ground
Very fun for melee btw
Yeah... I hate that tbh
bosses just firing off an attack before they can be damaged
And especially in maps how long some of the bosses take with ther start
You started with 3? Interesting
Yea gunna do middle one next
You rang?
If I remember correctly I hate prelude 2 final boss the most out of all 3 prelude bosses
Can't remember what the boss is though lol
Oh wait now I do
It's the guy with a massive arena
Ugh
Yeah
I do not remember what the interlude bosses are, my brain shuts off for them.
I think at one point there's an Amazon type lady? And uh... statue guy... uhm. I think there's a duo boss in one of them?
2 of them have duo bosses at the end
That should probably tell you how much attention I pay then lol
It's one for the first one
No it isn't one for the first one
The first one has the 2 graveyard bosses
Some kind frost dude
Oh if anyone needs last 2 Ascendancies btw just @ me
The frost dude isn't the last boss of the thing...
I'm just gonna ignore all dialogue in acts 5 and 6. Reading act 4 lore made me check out from the lore for this game entirely.
You read lore? xD
Poe2 has lore?
Sort of! (Not really)
You know how people ragged on D4 for "look at this old thing from Diablo 2! You like that game right??"
PoE2 does that in every single act but for PoE1 and while conveniently ignoring cornerstone lore and explanations for things
Honestly I just stopped bothering with the lore of poe2
I'll read the dialogue once and then be done with it
Also fun fact: most of the npcs in interludes don't have their introduction speech to the druid...
I will never stop wanting to throw bricks at whoever made the Maraketh in PoE2 into genocidal slavers. The whiplash I felt the first time going into act 2...
Ngl I didn't read the lore at first so I thought they were just crazy devotees
But nope
Probably starts with J
Bro really saw "everybody fkin sucks" jokes about Dark Souls lore and took it to heart
What grinds my gears is if I die why do mobs reset lol
And loot ofc
In campaign
Thankfully they removed that bug from maps
Wait, that was happening in maps too at some point?
Honestly
I'm still not sure what they were thinking with that decision
Same but with so many choices they've made lol
Jonny boy feels like the game needs more risk and less reward
And then he doesn't even play end game at all
Reminds me of D4 devs lol
But I'm sure if he did he'd play like the d3 dev back in the day with totally legit gear in inferno whatever it was and no defensive skills equippd
"See, it's easy"
I'd pay to see Jonathan play a league start all the way to T15s with minimal trading (because he insists that trade isn't necessary for progression).
Then again, not sure if watching 3 hours of load screens is gonna be fun since he apparently disenchants and salvages every single item that drops and isn't equipped
In PoE1 I'd see jewels drop graciously even if they were trash
So far I've seen only one lol
I have like half a tab of jewels entirely because I hoarded all mg keys in Sekhema and opened every single jewel cache at the end lmao
I got a sekh trial might just do that tomorrow
None of the jewels were worth it btw 
I've 1 lvl 75 djinn and 3 lvl 79 chaos thingies
but at the same I don't really feel like running them yet
Good luck
You can do it
Didn't break a sweat lol
I like Jado's name meaning magic in another language
Just last prelude to go
dang Fane doing speedrun
Genius suggestion
Nearly every suggestion is genius when it comes to poe2
i know that it will take like +3 years till 1.0 PoE 2 but still having 1.0 with full 10 acts seems to me like double edge sword..
Even PoE 1 had it while in basic acts then hit kitava then hit "godslayer" while keeping with endgame stories..
I think that if PoE 2 will release with conclusion of main plot "the beast" idk where we will go except expectation of endgames part of lore
Poe2 isn't going to have 10 acts
They originally said 7 when it was just poe 1 4.0
then later said 6 acts
I don't even wanna imagine how long it would take to run through 10 acts in poe2 and what lvl you'd be by the end if they kept the zones same size 
welp that's actually good point, how the f.. they would scale the maps and acts and lvls
Bah! It's a short week but I still don't wanna work tomorrow :(
What's the matter?
Any ranged weapons like wands or bows available in voin?
Or it's a melee-focus game?
what surprised me the most is the price...
First time to see a game which use ue5 to craft environments can be quite friendly on price
(The reason why I like indie games)
I think it's melee-focused, but there seems to be a lot of melee variety.
...QQ? Bilibili? weibo? It's a Chinese game even
It's been fun so far. It has a very gothic aesthetic.
🤔 The way to display hp in voin is quite unique
It's just # of hearts and there's a lot of different ways to build your HP
hard to say I know how to dodge attack... it's my cost for killing a zombie
Dodge when yellow for perfect dash
The perfect dash window is generous
Another option is to parry, which allows you to do a strong counter-attack, but that's more precise / more difficult than perfect dash.
And you could have a build that triggers effects when you perfect dash too.
Like this ring which I'm currently using
Finally, I beat the first area of the game lol
I'm confused how to equip that... I don't find a item with this name :(
It's this:
That's the "Rune" slot
Always messed up rt and rb...lol
So I attack when I need to parry, I parry when I need to attack...
😆
I wish they implement ps UI too
You can from Options -> Controls -> Controller -> PlayStation
hah thanks. Just discover that
Dual wield fire build is not bad
🫡 I think it's not my tea unfortunately... Avoid damage is too tricky
Action games are too hard in general
Apparently last 3 build of the week vid builds were just straight up removed from the game in the patch after it
lol
action games includes... platform jumper (I think metroidvania is more accurate?), shooters (fps is the other name?) and soul-like (attack a boss with melee weapons and different actions)
Can't enjoy them at all
PoE, PoE2, LE, also action games
They need to think what's wrong in my builds, this is the part I like
pinnacle bosses are always action challenges, so I can't do that
I do love me some metroidvanias
Make sense on both of you do better than me a lot in poe 2 (this game require advanced action skills)
Kirra I'm terrible at most games
I don't really notice small details and it easily leads to me dying
And I do get very annoyed when I die to something like those invisible abyss enemies yesterday
My brain just lack of sensitivity of reaction time... Seriously. React something quickly and know what to do next is a skill
like most skills
you can learn it
I'm probably twice your age (almost 40), so you're always going to have faster reflexes than me if you train them lol
yes it's why I'm quite impressive by poison spears from Viper's army and tornado bird
they are not it just most of games these days are made to be more like soul-like and not as simple action combat..
tho this Voin seems rather chaotic than fun to play in first person at least..
If somebody wanna play such first person hack&slash better is speed like old school Arx Fatalis or Dark Messiash
Fatekeeper from upcoming shows is decently how it can looks
The tornado bird at least has a specific animation when it's about to do the tornado
viper's army you can just watch which ones have green glow and then not stand next to those
It's not very chaotic. The mechanics are extremely forgiving. You can mix dodging and attacking so that they both happen simultaneously, for example. Also applies to parrying. It's like animation-cancelling, but on steroids.
So there's very little actual precision required.
In addition to that everything is generously telegraphed, so not only are you able to dodge in the middle of an attack you will also see it coming from a mile away.
Well that dual short fight shows it little differently
It's a very weak weapon, I went back to the sword after. Faster attack speed weapons are understandably weaker unless you juice them up or got a good build to synergize with it.
I could be using a big, heavy two-hander that one shots everything, and I can dodge in the middle of a swing too.
I also increased the toughness level of the monsters for that run.
How much easier does this need to be? I didn't even attack, they just died from effects triggered from my Perfect Dash.
I feel like druid's Pounce is an antithesis of PoE2 design
It's pretty much a movement ability akin from PoE1
... that also marks, and makes minions
ngl he scared me with the "behind you" lol
Tbh I should probably get Pounce in on my build just for the mark
I currently use Reap for the small dash + crit vulnerability (also surprisingly good damage it does)
But honestly wouldn't be surprised if Pounce + the mark would be better 🤔
I gave it a shot, and this ability does everything jesus
can generate power charges, because you can make it combo with the gem, and have another gem that generates charges from combo
marks fo extra damage
summons minions with that mark
I'll need to check what Mark of the Predator does
Ah, yea
That should help a lot actually
The movement especially
Tbh I kinda would like to follow mathil's build with the atziri spear
It's true that ¥11.5 normal boba tea can better than ¥21 boba tai milk tea
Quite magical.
But the spear is lvl 78 so lvling there would take a while
You’d cry if you learned how much boba costs where I live
It's on average about $8 or so over here
Obviously we make more, since we make USD, but: $7 = ¥49
And that’s cheaper than usual
😅 ?
But for Americans, it's cheap, isn't it?
Earn US dollars, spend US dollars.
Everything is expensive if you earn Chinese dollars, spend US dollars.
No, it's not cheap
Everything is expensive in general right now in the US economy.
That's like, half an hour of work on average, for a single drink. The opposite of cheap.
I wonder what the Chinese cost of living is like compared to the US, not the actual flat amount, but how much purchasing power Chinese middle class has vs US middle class atm
US is in a crazy economic situation where even the middle class is being priced out of consumer markets.
They’re not bad though
I’m personally mot the hugest boba fan
I already don’t like milk tea and none of the flavors are… enough for me
The mix-ins are fine though
On which fields?
I'm not from middle class definitely, though 
Middle class is middle class, there is no "field"
I mean which fields for purchasing power
Discretionary spending in general
The middle class doesn’t really exist anymore, Kirra
Unless your family runs a large business or is affiliated politically you’re most likely considered lower class
Which is also what I’d guess based on your previous comments
In the US, a significant portion of discretionary spending (non-essential, luxury spending) comes from the upper class, who are a very small portion of the population.
Mm, the middle class has eroded in the US too
The only middle class I know are old retired people now, nobody fifty and under that I know is living very far beyond their means at all
My mother makes the most money she’s ever made and works three jobs, yet lives paycheck to paycheck
Hmm unfortunately, i can see that too.. If there was some "middle class" their gap against upper class widen so much due to various events from politics to some crises that middle class is almost on lower lvl and lower lives from salary to salary or on debts or worse
Yeah the class gap has gotten wider.
Feels bad man
I wonder if it's also as bad for the average Chinese middle class
Somehow I kinda doubt it
I think it’s likely worse
In my country gaps definitely changed last 5 years.. I would call our economy as Trash can.. >.>
The average States citizen is still far more privileged than the average citizen of China or Hong Kong
Privileged yeah, but I'm skeptical to assume that always translates to being better off in every aspect such as health and employment.
The employment in China is far worse
But I don’t feel liked discussing this with you
You don't have to. I'm happy to talk to myself! China's employment/unemployment rates are state-reported in any case. But in this case, I think the important distinction is the class divide and what proportion of the population falls into each class, lower/middle/upper-middle/upper etc.
Which one 
The UN banned Futurama after the 2011 incident
Honestly what are people born in the nineteen-hundreds up to nowadays?
My standard for middle class is
On food, they don't need to worry about the cost on food. They can eat whatever they want to eat in shopping malls and have free time to enjoy desserts & drinks or do sports at weekend's afternoon.
On games, they can buy multiple 3a games with zero pressure. They own both of high-end game PC and consoles to play any games.
On living, they have the own home, regardless it's rented or purchased. Smart lightning and home appliances in the house so they don't need to do any chores. Everything is controlled by a touched panel.
On education, they can go any countries except US and UK to accept advanced education for the field they're interested without worrying about the rent and food cost in that country.
On travel, they can go to 1-3 countries per year, one week for each country to learn more about different cultures.
(well... It's my dream you can say)
That seems a bit more extravagant than your typical US middle class.
Vacationing out of country more than once a year seems a bit much
Uh, yeah that's not middle class, that's upper class
And even middle class in the US has to plan their financials
I’ve never been on a vacation lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psKwdQ-6kaY wanted put something colorful tho idk how it would be good in this discussion 🥶
That sounds closer to upper-middle or upper class.
The only country I've been to outside the US is Canada because I used to live 15 minutes from the border lol
Also no matter how fancy your home gets you need to do chores lmao
We haven’t invented deep cleaning houses
Ah, good old episode 1 lol
My taking a dirt road and accidentally crossing into Canada
(This could happen to me)
BTW when are we taking a 3 hour drive to go to Tim Horton's 
When I get a car, shitstain
Think of middle class more like "you're not poor, but you're also not rich" so you still have to watch and plan all your spending carefully and you can probably provide for a small family.
We have two in Maine, no need for passports
I will say this definition still isn’t great
Using my own life, my mother can “support” a small family in the sense that we have heating and food, but we can’t get really anything extravagant, including games or clothes, and if we do it’s very “once in a while”
Yeah, there's nuance for sure. Is her home in a decent neighborhood, at least? Relatively peaceful suburbia?
It’s… Maine
I haven't been to Maine, but from what I've seen of Maine I can assume yes?
Like I wouldn’t say it’s a good neighborhood, but that’s not because it’s dangerous
Maine has three settings
Middle of nowhere
Small town
"City"
We have one actual city and it’s Portland
We're in the second option
You have zero actual cities, you have what Mainers think are cities
No
I hope to know no other city, then
But yeah, I’d say it’s a bad area because it’s impossible to walk anywhere thanks to the topography
(I’m talking hills that cars struggle to go up on)
📈📉
The bobcats aren’t really an issue IMO, I wouldn’t include them as a problem
They mostly go after the wildlife, they’re fairly non-aggressive
I’ve seen bobcats a few times and they only stalked me once
I’m surprised we don’t get coyotes in this area though
And yeah "middle class" is an wide category for sure. Hard to account for other things too like dependents and debt.
I think we're mostly clear of debt? Not sure. Where does a mortgage fall on there, is that considered debt?
We’re not
Two car payments rn that we could not afford
I think my mother still has her student debt too
Let me look at the spreadsheet
I actually had someone call me a few days ago to offer me a loan to pay my debts.
Absolutely disgusting.
LMAO
Wanna take on some debt to pay your debts???
This is how they prey on people.
I let him talk all the way through and then just kindly told him that I have no debt and he seemed surprised and hung up.
Which means... apparently tons of people do have debt,, heh.
Oh yeah, a lot of people do, especially as you get under age 50 or so
I have none xdd
Not having debt is like, a super privileged position to be in with how much of modern life is centered around gaining debt
We don't pay for things
We also live in a system where you have to take on debt in order to build credit.
Yep
(I've never had anything to cause debt on account of not going to higher education, not owning a home, no car, etc etc)
I'm going to have debt soon, so
Thanks to the whole "getting a car" thing
If I land the job I want, it should easily pay for that though, since I think they also reimburse miles
Not even a credit card?
No reason to have a credit card, can't pay it off
I don't have a proper bank account, I just use PayPal for now.
Yeah I might be thinking of selling on PayPal. I have a business account and all sellers are charged a fee I think.
Probably doesn't apply to buyers.
Mm, it does not
Yeah, selling and transferring between accounts incurs a fee, I do neither of those
Yeah. I'm a gamer.
oh no lol
Yep
Male dog?
I have none either, but different country tbh
But I also don't have a car, and house/flat is not something I can even dream of
I paid all debt a week ago, loan if make it more clearly
I just dream about owning a job for letting me to create art
It's the base of everything
What is that?
People you have worked with or under before
Previous employers your current employer can call to hear about you
current employer being who you're applying to, i mean
Thanks 🙏🏻
Finally finished my main atlas passives 
my head hurts
Is it safe to say zero reference I have? 
yes
What the name of that app for communication in companies? Slash or what
No slash on Google play
I remembered it's xxash
Within a company?
Slack
Slack is a popular app for communication in organizations
In most cases even more than that, it is used as a platform to also perform actions within an organization that has particular needs of software development tools
Regal workbench in the temple doesn't work on jewels 
because it's not "equipment"
You had never heard of Activision before?
Never hear this company...
Combat is starting to feel better and better as I get used to it more
It's like I never know which company developed PUBG before EHG released that announcement
Blizzard is owned by activision, for example
😂 😂 😂 ... Sigh.
Hah!? Oh my Jesus 😦
blizzzzard
... Bad memory again. I can't remember full name of game director of GGG
Oh Rogers
... Overwhelming Jonathan Rogers on LinkedIn
I even can find chief in NASA by this name
Very common name
@fierce moth when you try to search him on google, there are so many funny things 
I wonder Jonathan own his LinkedIn...
GGG's game director supposed to at top of list
I know poorly on English names
Everybody runs their own LinkedIn, you have to sign up for it and provide a lot of personal information and contact stuff.
LinkedIn is a social network for professionals. Everyone signs up for it.
Nice lil chunk of money
I don't find him really lol
Weapon swapping at all?
Nope
Huh. Weird.
It's probably sorting by the connection degree.
Connection degree?
I don't know what 1st/2nd/3rd mean
1st degree = you know someone (directly connected)
2nd degree = you know someone who knows someone
3rd degree = you know someone who knows someone who knows someone
Also Jonathan probably wouldn't accept you as connection anyway, Kirra
He might
It's not unusual
You'd be surprised how many big name executives accept small-time connections. You could send a message in your connection request with your "aspiring artist" story and who knows maybe he accepts.
A connection by itself doesn't mean much, so there's not much harm in them accepting it.
Hmm
Yeah, could happen
I just don't want her to get her hopes up
The question is how often does he check his LinkedIn? lol
I only check mine like once every 2 months or something
I honestly can't remember the last time I checked mine
It's fine, I just curious about how will he writes his LinkedIn as a game director of GGG
Pros who don't know me are too much
It mean nothing even I connect with him lol
Honestly I doubt he'd write that much there 🤔
Doesn't seem the type
But I don't know
Yeah, people aren't usually updating LinkedIn unless they are looking for a job
And I don't think Jonathan has been looking for a job in a very long time.
I can't even find it, actually. I think he either doesn't have one or his profile is private.
Yeah, he has been at GGG since the beginning
I doubt he has felt the need to make one
First death in a very long while due to delirium fog covering a boss telegraph :(
The vision, or lack of.
They reduced the effect but the more subtle a telegraph it is the harder it is to see it
And in this case the telegraph is just a small shadow on the ground, which is unfortunately pretty hard to see past any layered effects
Ah, yea fair enough
tbh I kinda hate the whole delirium shit
remember when it came and it was just all grey?
Grey effects on grey background, grey bubbles etc
"This is good design"
I have determined this to be a MASSIVE scam, don't use this
It is pure RNG on if your fog is even going to be on the boss, and if it isn't you just lose ALL of your delirium drops
The vision
Once again one of my minions just disappear lol
And then I get my spirit back in town
What
I thought the boss would just drop them anyway even if it wasn't delirious... at least based on the wording
that's shit
Yeah. It's awful.
And I think i took that as my first node to test it out
2/8 Red Envelopes
My head really hurts
idk why i though it looks like Chernobylite 1 lol
I like features of S.T.A.L.K.E.R more.. With modding it can have even these survival elements of Chenorbylite
i mean im a huge stalker fan so
well i dont like that chernobylite force you to build some "Camp" like you couldnt survive on your own or have NPC's which could build that
Stalker seems like you are just "person" while Chernobylite is "main character"
indeed
The funny
Look at this nerd
Always lucky with the drops
Hey, this took multiple tries and it's not even worth much
Olroth
Man THQ is cooking, and quite efficiently
ive seen that TQ2's next chapter comes out soon for its early access
Oh, 3rd one soon already?
No exact date
It's not valid until exact date is given in my opinion
And I still not complete act 2... Good reminder
Tq 2 and Poe 2 is on the same level... Boring to play
But it's nice to play different games so I don't burn out in a game
It's a bit easier when your focus is single player
hell yeah
Do this room is t3 Atziri's vault? What the room name is?
I have the following item and socketed living lightning into fireball. Does it not proc because the weapon is melee and has to instead be a wand?
I was for sure hoping it'd work oh well
azmadi 9 deaths everytime at 10% hp like wtf is wrong with me
yep
i slayed it for 10th time :D, i have "somehow dps" just idk why i always had make some stupid mistake at end of the fight
Fair
Hmm bleed spear is surprisingly fun so far
Should be mostly smooth sailing until 78
do it match with this name?
1st divine orb is got by here
gz
hah, then the 1st orb of chance is dropped
Slowly getting there
Ah, wonderful
Matlan Waterways
remember when it didn't even have checkpoints..?
It might as well not have
🥴 what loots dropped from the powerful boss:
lvling tink
sigh. Nub's loots are better than me a lot
It was from a strongbox
not just normal drop
I managed to sell the ring.
I'M RICH !
I had my first (and only so far) drop during campaign lol
I had one in the temple on my Oracle at like
lvl 70 something
Honestly not sure if I should drop this in favour of a wand with some damage conversion to lightning
With muster it's 7% more damage when I summon living lightning
But I feel like the +2 levels is overall stronger
What build are you playing?
I just spent 40c for a sapphire :(
Upgrades are sometimes necessary
wtf was on that sapphire?
I just hope she didn't overpay
Overpaid imo
Classic group attack
chaos damage and max es are max roll, it's the point
Yeah but see
those are supposed to be very end game improvements on your jewels
Unless you think your gear is already as good as it gets
Kirra you just keep scamming yourself by focusing on the wrong things and then you come around and complain about not having money
She sold something for 1d
Then spends 40c on something that in current context mostly useless
That's almost a div worth of chaos btw
Like, I have somewhere around 20 div in stash not counting things I could sell/liquidate, and you won't see me paying more than like 40-50ex for a jewel right now. I can still upgrade my gear, even my body armor which is just shy of 900 ES and has over 70% res on it can be upgraded before I'd even think of buying more expensive jewels
I have half of that ES on my chest lol
Damn
was 3div
You could. If you stopped spending money on mediocre min-max style upgrades.
What is bonded ?
Bonded is druid thing, you don't get those unless you've the druid ascendancy that I can't remember
If I want a decent spirit ES base it's looking like 5d+ lol
Spirit on body is a scam stat, you need defenses on armor more than anything
Base is usually the first thing ,just for higher rolls
I'll stick to my 500es base
If you need spirit invest in off-handing a sceptre and a giga amulet
It's overall an expensive build because sceptre needs to be rattling + minion levels + high spirit
Even that can get pretty expensive
Amulets can be stupidly expensive if u need +1 to gems
I was thinking around +3+ lol I still have a habit thinking like poe1
U can roll more +lvls on them
Okay, time for Viper fight
let's see how badly she wrecks me
A breeze for you I'm sure lol
I own 3 sapphires and I want a best sapphire for the slot in ascendency because it can 100% increase effect of jewel so I pay a lot for the most important one
This should be a lower priority than a high tier body armor
Nub remind me of next step is buy a 900+ es body armour when I can 🫡
Don't gun straight for 900+
Incremental upgrades. Incremental. You can get 800+ and 70% res for less than 1div.
it was
Lol equipping this made my skills turn off because I had lower int
Real af, I can't take off either of my rings or half my reservations turn off lmao
Just realised I have 0 rarity lol
Man these portals need to be more spread out or something...
Don't fret about it, I have like... 20-some. Makes basically no difference.
I have about 20 more levels before I can think about going CI
So many points to get there lol
I haven't actually checked is the map devise has only one decoration variety ? Or can u flick it with middle wheel ?
Sucks I remember this was same in Poe 1 untill they changed it and I m using maven one as well
Yea they added a big one as default on base deco in poe1 not that long ago like 2 years or something
what's wrong?
No stock
It doesn't exist in league anymore
hah?!
Yes, this and coronation were deleted
Gotta love this game
Only exist in standard now
We deleted it
oh no :(
No fun allowed