📚┃off-topic

[fierce moth]

￥200+ to buy a game is more and more common now

Played wolcen, played a new tv show type interaction, ok let me find any playthroughs about how to find paths in GD

[junior oyster]

Ngl grim dawn is all about exploration the first time round

I pretty much checked nearly everything in gd

[fierce moth]

I'm sure I'm lost. But I can't tell why I'm lost because I'm lost. Emmmm...

[junior oyster]

What are you trying to do?

[fierce moth]

It's the world map. I want to go to locations with white frames then go to locations with yellow frame. But none of them have paths be available to skip broken bridges. But I have no idea how to collect enough materials to fix these bridges too. So I'm lost.

[junior oyster]

On the right side of the broken bridge is a cave that you can navigate

[fierce moth]

First time to be lost in a loot-based ARPG

[junior oyster]

It will take you the the waypoint

Wait hold on

You can try to use this https://www.grimtools.com/map/

[fierce moth]

A broken bridge is here after I reach the other side

[junior oyster]

Left side you will need scrap and ironbits to progress

Go in the cave there

The one that looks like an eye

[fierce moth]

Oh this cave. Let me explore a bit more

[desert jasper]

Yeah, that cave.

[junior oyster]

Yep it will lead you to where you wanna go

Btw the link I sent you is useful for a lot of things

You can use it for making your build, checking items and checklist to see any important missed quests

Although be wary because you might get spoilered for dlc content

[fierce moth]

Wait a moment. Which second...Option should I select?

[junior oyster]

Anything you want

You can even check on the calc https://www.grimtools.com/calc/

[fierce moth]

I need to play like a generator like wolcen?

I always run out mana and I wonder which option can save me from this trouble

[junior oyster]

When you combine two together you get a new unique class name

[fierce moth]

Oh...Battlemage. Back to tq 2 lol

[junior oyster]

There are items that you might have picked up which you can put on equipment

They can help with things like adding resistances or more energy etc

You can only put one (component) and later (augment) per item

And some can only be put on specific items

The component/aug will say which equipment(s) it supports

[fierce moth]

🤷‍♀️ It's what I struugle

I know nothing about this game so nothing I can base on to decide

[junior oyster]

I mean obviously

You just get used to it

It's easier than poe but harder than d4

[fierce moth]

...Maybe I should watch one or two guide videos at first

[junior oyster]

That might be good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqsNGbfCEe0

I sent you a guide to check out if you want

[fierce moth]

wait, which term for these...terms for? ascendency for poe/poe 2, mastery for le, how about that in GD?

[junior oyster]

Class

Class/Mastery

There is also devotion which is similar (but different) to poe skill tree

Also fyi game has a built in loot filter

It's not as good as LE filter but it does the job relatively ok

[fierce moth]

lol just want to talk about that, devotion.
First reaction: what the hell is that

[junior oyster]

Trust me it's easier than poe skill tree

[fierce moth]

It's an another type of passive tree?

[junior oyster]

Yea by completing shrines you can get upto 52 points

Devotion shrines

[fierce moth]

Oh I even no idea how am I get the 1st point before watched this guide

[junior oyster]

55*

You completed a devotion shrine

This thing

[fierce moth]

Yes. I didn't realize this thing lol

[junior oyster]

Those passives can increase your stats and sometimes even sometimes give you skills

Those skills auto play depending on the skill and proc chance

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, they're the FPS killing skills

[junior oyster]

That was quick

[desert jasper]

Tbh that vid reminded me that I forgot to put a component on my pants

[junior oyster]

No breach mobs 0/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNaY10DQkJw

[desert jasper]

But yeah, the devotion tree is cool
can be a bit confusing to start with
and then you realize that if you're at let's say 9 red points
and the thing you just finished needs only 8 and gives you +1 for finishing you can get rid of 1 point from elsewhere and you'll still have it

[fierce moth]

lol I have no idea is it good to know nothing about builds in a loot-based ARPG because... That's the 1st question I have since I tried poe. The same question I have in poe 2 and GD. But I don't have any questions about that in le, Wolcen, poe 2 and tq 2

Maybe too many choices in GD and poe. Le is exceptional because I just touched this game type for the first time and I know I want to learn what necromancer is clearly

Not own dlc mean less choices already but I still pretty confusing

😂 😅 .......

[junior oyster]

I mean it's basically the same in GD if you put your mind to it

Focus on one type of attack, max out resistances and other stats

The most confusing part about gd is the devotion probably

And optimising it requires decent amount of knowledge

But yea without the expansions (AoM and FG) you are kinda limited tbf

[celest wagon]

How's your day going?
me:

[placid yarrow]

This is why I play no guess lmao

[vagrant topaz]

No guess?

[celest wagon]

it's a game mode that always starts out with a safe choice like this
that opens up more than just one number, so you get a starting point every time.
The rest of the game is standard afaik.

[placid yarrow]

Yep

Basically you can always finish the whole thing without having a 50/50

[celest wagon]

ooooh it's WHOLE game? no fun 😄

[placid yarrow]

There will be 50/50's initially but they'll be solvable once you attack them from a different angle

[placid yarrow]

Hell nah I'm not about to have my huge game ruined by a 50/50 lmao

I play it while commuting and stuff I'm not trying to be stressed out

[junior oyster]

Wait you don't win if you hit a mine? 👀

[placid yarrow]

No you lose if you hit one

[junior oyster]

I consider it a win

[fierce moth]

Do GD have campaign?

[junior oyster]

I close the game

[celest wagon]

depends on your goal i guess

[junior oyster]

The whole game IS a campaign lool

[fierce moth]

Oh...

[junior oyster]

Don't worry it has endgame stuff

But you need the dlc for that sadly

[placid yarrow]

Here's an example game, you can see that whenever I get stuck I can always just go through the possibilities until I find either a guaranteed safe spot or guaranteed mine

Imagine if there was a 50/50 at the end and I missed, hell nah

[celest wagon]

that's the fun part ^^

[fierce moth]

I find wolcen is more interesting than me in the beginning... GD's beginning is as like as D4, giant maps with seamless areas and many dungeons (caves). That's all.

[celest wagon]

play another game until you win, then you'll be allowed to go to bed

[junior oyster]

That's how I am with slay the spire lol

Except I never win

[fierce moth]

But I can watch cinamatic storytelling scenes in d4 at least. GD is 100% explore the giant map only.

[junior oyster]

More interesting to me in the beginning

Than me is you comparing Wolcen to yourself

[desert jasper]

While a lot of the GD dungeons are just side areas
A lot of them actually are lore stuff or things you kinda need to go through

[junior oyster]

And GD has a lot of lore notes

My favourite being a trip south lol

Cute little 3 part story

[fierce moth]

yes I don't want to read them... I prefer the modern way (watch films) more than traditional way (text reading)

[desert jasper]

Truly cute
You even get to meet fluffy critters

[fierce moth]

GD is too traditional lol

[desert jasper]

Well, that's your issue then Kirra
And I will already say you'll probably not enjoy Grim Dawn at all

[junior oyster]

Dang too bad games with cinematics tend to be trash

Also if you want a game that has better cinematics and story then d2 it is

D4 story is ok and cinematics is really good

[junior oyster]

Yea now I'm kinda glad you didn't buy dlc because it would have been a waste of money for you

Also technically gd does have cutscenes but they are more like turning a comic into a 'live' comic

[fierce moth]

I enjoy segmented maps for the campaign more than a big open world map

[junior oyster]

Like 2 cutscenes total

[junior oyster]

D4 has that lol

Also the waypoints in gd are kinda fair I think

In fact it's easier to find most waypoints in gd than it is in le

[desert jasper]

Yeah, you can just explore the areas between waypoints in GD and treat that as a segment

[junior oyster]

And people might disagree with me but I enjoy the open world of gd more than d4

Horses? Who cares lol

[desert jasper]

You might have to go back to earlier areas
or note that "hey this quest mentions east of that area"
so if reading is not your thing? yeah

[junior oyster]

Also little tidbits where you help out the towns and how things change even if slightly

And immediately too

[desert jasper]

And one thing in a dlc area where exploring the village can reveal the truth about it

if the nps being weird doesn't make you suspicious already

[fierce moth]

emmmmm just want to say the map is overwhelming big so I need that horse so much

oh that mean you're the audience of tq 2

[junior oyster]

No I am not

I never even played tq1

I am someone who played d2

And that game had huge maps

Ofc sorc (or anyone with tele skill) trivialised those maps lol

[celest wagon]

I'm allowed to sleep 🙂

[desert jasper]

Never felt like I need a horse in gd

[fierce moth]

I want to explode all houses in GD's map if I can

[junior oyster]

Explode or explore?

[fierce moth]

explode

[junior oyster]

You're funny lol

[desert jasper]

The houses did nothing wrong

[junior oyster]

It's a very good thing you didn't buy AoM

[desert jasper]

Ah, true

[fierce moth]

I have no idea why I want to explore empty houses. They have small entrances so I must reduce my movement speed always and need to care my cursor to not knock on walls

[junior oyster]

Do you use kbm?

If you use mouse you can set left click to move only

So you don't accidentally click on stuff you don't want to

[fierce moth]

No idea why many hallow indoor areas must be included in giant outdoor areas

[junior oyster]

Cuz people used to live there

Lol

[fierce moth]

what is it

[junior oyster]

Keyboard and mouse

[fierce moth]

? keyboard and mouse is the only available control for GD. I can't use my controller

It don't support ps4 controller

[junior oyster]

Yea so if you are accidentally clicking stuff you don't want to you can set left click to move only

[fierce moth]

Yes that's my way. Left click then move my mouse

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain we won

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhiTtQ5Z_Ig

[fierce moth]

Oh tomorrow is the full live stream time

[mental talon]

Yep

And more importantly patch notes

[fierce moth]

Not quite important for me

I hope I can complete the campaign and level up a character to lv 90 in this league

https://pobb.in/pPTkhizfOZFI I don't try this build completely yet, go on completing that. The same process with I play lich in poe 2

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain

Hmmmmm

[fierce moth]

Emmmmm

[junior stirrup]

Now playing: Black-Eyed Peas - My Humps

[quaint forge]

[mental talon]

What do you know Sus

[quaint forge]

Looks interesting

[mental talon]

Sure.... Sure... I'll be back tomorrow after the reveal Sus

[desert jasper]

I'm sure Zao knows nothing about that
Just like me

That build of the week

[quaint forge]

Rambo Wizard

[twilit mountain]

SURELY WE DONT JUST NERF TRICKSTER INTO OBLIVION AND INSTEAD WE BUFF OTHER ASCENDS TO MATCH THEIR POWER

[warped wren]

[fierce moth]

🤔 it looks good, it can become the next build I try after 0.4.0 is out

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxuQZG_uIWLd-2thiyfk0-Ae4XxJH2Ck__?si=VKRJd6f6WiTI0ufL

Hhhhhhh what? Sorry, I don't know what are you talking.

But I afraid of this build can't be a starter build

Pay no elemental resistance to get massive max life bonus so I don't need elemental resistance on gears, but I need to find a bunch of armour also applies to elemental damage, I guess it will more expensive?

[twilit mountain]

Very much not a starter build

[fierce moth]

:(

[twilit mountain]

Also it will probably be gutted next patch

[fierce moth]

Alright, so I must play chaos caster lich to save resources to support that

[fierce moth]

gutted = op build as like as current poison deadeye?

[twilit mountain]

Gutted = it will be nerfed to near unusability

[desert jasper]

Oh, assassin rework

Need to read it when I actually get on pc

[twilit mountain]

Oh?

[fierce moth]

14:42, just complete my brunch

[desert jasper]

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1981217853555822874?t=Ew3n72GKoxnJ-DDN5DJuIA&s=19

[twilit mountain]

Oh it's actually okay

[desert jasper]

All dmg from hits can poison
finally i can play my meme spell poison

[fierce moth]

I hope I can have the ability of judging which branch should I go on ascendency panels one day

[twilit mountain]

Meme?

[desert jasper]

I've no idea

I'm barely awake really

[twilit mountain]

Oh no, it was poking at the fact that poison spells are historically pretty good

Bro is high

[desert jasper]

Wtf is that guy talking about

[twilit mountain]

Psychopathy frfr

[desert jasper]

Also i don't really check too many builds to see what's good and what's not

Maybe could even go poison molten strike and actually have a good time early

[vagrant topaz]

There is no max psn stack in POE 1, right ?

[twilit mountain]

I don't think so, but DoT damage has a cap

Yes I know what that says

I'm not fixing it

[vagrant topaz]

Why did they cap DoT ?

[twilit mountain]

It just is how the system works, I think it's a math things

It's like 36 million damage per second or smth

[desert jasper]

Ah crap
I thought the announcement was on Friday, not today

[vagrant topaz]

This is what Spriggan Form should be

[fierce moth]

!? Interesting. A new direction to explore differences on special builds in le and poe 2

So I give a try to druid? 🤔

[vagrant topaz]

Imo the best Spriggan Form is in Shaman

[fierce moth]

🤔 I never play spriggan form shaman

[junior stirrup]

Something like post-mitigation DoT damage is represented as a signed 32-bit quantity per minute, so 2.1 billion over 60, yielding 35 million and change.

All* stats are naturally bounded, it's just that you typically don't reach most of them.

[desert jasper]

I really should stop thinking what spell poison I'll roll
i've no idea which ones would be good even

[maiden widget]

Just do the Tri ele tornado version

[desert jasper]

It could work
Probably
last time I played tri ele tornado was... I think it was in Kalguur?
God that league was so long

[maiden widget]

Should be pretty good if you can solve defense. If you like slower paced then cremation of the volcano might be cool for you too

[desert jasper]

I've never actually played cremation

Oh, I got it
Got to do cast on crit detonate dead

tbh I don't think I'll actually do that

[fierce moth]

Back to this video, what remind you of spriggan form?

[twilit mountain]

Good, I would have to report you to the PoE cops for that

[desert jasper]

Oh no
The poe cops
Whatever shall I do

Tbh I imagine it would be very strong
I'm just very bad at building cast on crit stuff
i'm bad at crafting stuff so the gear is very expensive for me

[fierce moth]

https://youtu.be/KZgxyp1-qUs?si=wdBjjdRNtjyO2UIX

The original video guide.

I see why this build is expensive... I need timeless jewel to sustain life cost

If I don't use life cost instead of mana cost, then mana sustain is a big issue. Warrior is harder than blood mage/lich/Stormweaver a lot on mana regeneration 🤔

I wish I can afford this build 😔

The access of trying new builds depends on how fast you can pass campaign and stack your currencies by crafting

This point mean Poe/Poe 2 is a game which must compete with time

Back to Poe, I'm not sure if that totem build have any changes so I must find a new guide

[desert jasper]

Well
There hasn't been any totem updates now
We'll see if that's still true after the reveal

[fierce moth]

...Yes. It's the biggest block to enjoy Poe/ Poe 2

[mental talon]

Oh shit I was asleep but I see my cope wasnt in vain AHAHAHAHAHA WE WON @twilit mountain

[desert jasper]

But imagine you didn't get free 40% less phys taken when CI
And no free 50% dmg multi

[mental talon]

What a terrible time to have eyes

Man that recoup node opens up so many weird comboes

Self ignite/poison/bleed w.e.

Poison Spark my beloved

CoC with Sandstorm Visage node

Mistwalker is hot

We're so back

[desert jasper]

Yeah, it does open a lot of things

Wait, which one is Sandstorm visage?

Ah, that thing

[jade jackal]

man, why is it always the LE server i get random friend requests from

something here in particular seems "loose" in that regard

[fierce moth]

Maybe because your nickname is colourful which means you can be the target easier

[desert jasper]

They heard you are looking to get scam... I mean, buy art

[fierce moth]

We're all white so they're confused who of us should be the target

[desert jasper]

oh they send me plenty of friend requests too

[fierce moth]

My reaction like this kitty:

My discord is quite quiet

[abstract karma]

more channels then

[junior oyster]

3.28 starts next week right?

[mental talon]

I hope not. But 3.27 starts next Friday

[junior oyster]

Tonight's stream will be the deciding factor if I play or not

Last played poe in settlers league

So been about 9 months?

[fierce moth]

This is the context, also the origin of the joke I made @lean fiber

Braised Pork. Braised Pork? Braised Pork...

🤔 Alright I forget which word is blocked before

[maiden widget]

Pretty sure the s word the profanity filter here is wild

[fierce moth]

lol

Just tested, all contents in threads must follow the format too, otherwise they'll be deleted

Sigh. Why it's quite hard to just send a congras message...@rugged island Congratulations! Your request are came true. 👏 🍻

[blissful token]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/pysgm1cAA3 lol the comments are funny

Running monolith irl

[gilded elm]

Got no problem with augmenting existing workflows with agentic tooling (it's greatly enhanced my own productivity at work), but hopefully they aren't replacing creatives with generative tools lol.

[blissful token]

i just laughing at these comments

AI erroth lmao

heck... the members in this server tanked. 5k lost

[vagrant topaz]

Pretty funny on the forum too

[blissful token]

ehh?

[gilded elm]

Seems extreme lmao

[jade jackal]

valid imo, just, yeah, not quite as common

The bottom line is that consumers should be able to voice their opinion on the topic, as educated as it may be

[maiden widget]

had the pleasure of reviewing agentic ai PR recently and had to scrap it as it wasnt maintainable cos the og dev wasnt able to control it at all

big double edged sword imo

makes good devs faster but makes bad devs pump out extreme amounts of slop

[fierce moth]

lol I don't get where is interesting until I read that

Excellent term.

Well I hope aierroth can be slain before it's ruined the game art...

EHG have excellent human artists. Protect them please

[blissful token]

I would love to jump off the cliff 10 times and have ailerroth learn it so i can see if ailerroth can die from gravity

[twilit mountain]

Gods DAMN

[fierce moth]

Now EHG need an announcement to promise they never touch AI

[desert jasper]

AI has uses.

[gilded elm]

Yeah, generating code (bad) vs using an agent to research, explain, plan or give advice (good) are completely different. If I was a codebase maintainer, I would definitely have a rule against AI-generated code unless it's something more innocuous like code completions.

[fierce moth]

Sigh, this level of negative influence is out of what EHG can control

[maiden widget]

we have them now, you may use ai generated code if you can actually explain what happens and modify it enough

as in not 100% but a good starting point then finishing it yourself is fine

[gilded elm]

Yeah, it's fine as boilerplate. One of the biggest problems is that people in the industry are using it to replace skill instead of augmenting it, so like you said they end up not understanding the finished result.

[maiden widget]

a 1.2k loc react component was a sight to behold tho

[fierce moth]

I'll still here but I can guess less and less players willing to play le :(

[abstract karma]

in gaming field tho it mean sloppy work..

So far nobody showed in gaming industry that using AI actually helped to develop game properly and their release also according that was "flamed"
If you can't have games which release something decent trough AI as helper then it will be publicly hated automatically in gaming field

[fierce moth]

🤔 So the only solution is EHG showed how AI tools help their development to prove AI revolution don't inflence the game?

[gilded elm]

Not true. There are countless very well received games on Steam with AI disclosures that reveal those games were made with the help of AI-augmented workflows. Not talking about games that use generative AI to create content, but games that used AI as part of their development process.

[maiden widget]

can you show one? Would be interesting how the disclosure looks like

[junior oyster]

More content for Vamp Survivors Ode to Castlevania

[fierce moth]

🫂 I still want to see more creative ideas from EHG...

[junior oyster]

16 new chars that I have no idea about 😂

[gilded elm]

You've never seen the disclosure on a Steam store page before? :O

[maiden widget]

nope not yet

[jade jackal]

You have no idea how happy that would make me

[gilded elm]

I'll try to find one, but there's a lot. Wish SteamDB was able to filter them. I don't remember specific ones, but I've seen a lot.

[jade jackal]

But i know that in this industry, its practically impossible

[maiden widget]

I've not been checking out too many new games recently maybe I've missed it

The issue isn't never touch AI, but if your mother corpo is that AI obsesses it's not a good sign for you

[junior oyster]

The fact my gpu has 'AI' annoys me the hell off and wish I had bought a 40XX gpu instead

Should have done my research sigh

[maiden widget]

wdym, 4000 also has DLSS upscaling

[jade jackal]

You know machine learning was used with GPUs as old as GTX 700 series right

[fierce moth]

yes so I get this conclusion

[abstract karma]

i hate fact that i need AI have integrated to OS like wtf... I dont need any "tools" to read anything i do in my PC.. If i want help i ask but not integrated to core systems

I wanna still have that "false hope" i'm not spied

[maiden widget]

time for linux

[junior oyster]

SteamOS for pc someday

[jade jackal]

You technically can debloat and de-AI your system

but that would require messing about

[junior oyster]

I already made my win11 go from centre taskbar to leftside taskbar

[abstract karma]

Who know how Windows 25 or 26h2 will integrade AI deep.. it maybe wont be possible remove it..
Now you can completly purge their AI as package to remove

[junior oyster]

I hate that they basically copied apple cuz while I understand apple is really good, I can't help but hate apple

[jade jackal]

I don't know how Microsoft's plans look like for the rest of this decade, but im mentally preparing to solo the penguin system by the turn of it

[abstract karma]

either way AI use recourses and i dont which ones it just USE..
For any machine which will have integreated "AI" it means possible 2 things:

1. Stealing HW recourses
2. forced and need Internet connection

[maiden widget]

endeavour OS is an extremely good starting point

or just plain kubuntu

[jade jackal]

Im thankful that i am experienced with Linux, i work with it, its on my work laptop and the hardware i work with

so moving is going to be smooth

[junior oyster]

I was almost tempted to install SteamOS but it wouldn't work properly without messing around and in that case might as well install a better linux distro for pcs

[gilded elm]

Turns out, SteamDB is actually able to filter based on this disclosure. Also, the disclosure is apparently for games that include AI-generated content, which isn't what I was looking for but it does still show that there are games that do well despite straight up using gen AI for content. I've seen many games use this "AI disclosure" to mention they only used AI for process-related stuff, though. https://steamdb.info/tag/1368160/?sort=rating_desc

[maiden widget]

oh awesome thanks, weird how many entries it has and i havent encountered it

[gilded elm]

Can sort by other things, like peak playercount to see some interesting results too.

[junior oyster]

Anyway poe 3.27 strem today

[abstract karma]

Starship Troopers: Extermination - not only graphic is nothing it should be they even used AI-content ?

[junior oyster]

First page and the only game I recognise is The Finals and that's a dlc for 15£ wtf

[gilded elm]

Guess they didn't wanna hire a 3D animator lol

Now I'm curious what the AI video of Rico looks like

[abstract karma]

horrible.. Poor actor of original movie from West..

No wonder last any stories about franchises were 3D animated from East

[gilded elm]

If the original illustrations and voice acting that the AI video was based on were bad, then yeah I could see the video being bad. Kinda hoped those were good, just to see if it was a problem with the generated video being bad.

[fierce moth]

I feel I'm flooded by a giant tornado which I never can escape once I selected to stand on le's side. Personal power is too poor under the trend of the whole society is tend to develop ai tools to increase efficiency and bring more possibilities. Human's value become more trash if they can't do the same level of works because senior people need a long time and much money to mentor.

[junior oyster]

Ok where the hell did they move the curator section on steam

Nvm found it

[maiden widget]

you're a customer you dont need to pick sides

[abstract karma]

AI is tool.. If used normally it can help.. If used to be just lazy - big doom
IF integrated to game = more recourses to server = more expensive

[junior oyster]

This lol

Why do we have to be attached to companies that don't give a damn about us

Or people

[abstract karma]

too late for that.. These companies have too many sheeps

[jade jackal]

preach

[gilded elm]

Loyalty is something you give to people, not companies. Companies don't deserve loyalty.

[fierce moth]

You ask a good question...Alright I admit you're right... Me is me

[twilit mountain]

The larger the company, the more you should talk shit about it, no exceptions

[jade jackal]

[blissful token]

Apple and Samsung?

[junior oyster]

Steam

[twilit mountain]

They both sell products purposefully made to get exponentially worse in increasingly smaller timeframes.

[junior oyster]

Meanwhile I bought red magic 10 pro because it has lights on the back 😂

[twilit mountain]

Monopoly. Started the gambling fad in gaming. One of, if not the most expensive storefront for developers to get onto. D-bag CEO.

[blissful token]

Very fair point

[jade jackal]

Also you are the product

[junior oyster]

It wasn't a question but appreciate the answer regardless

[abstract karma]

discord ? 🤔 (now i will be banned in a few days)

[junior oyster]

That said I'm less critical of Steam/Valve than any other company (aside from smaller indie devs)

[jade jackal]

Discord is particularly enshittified

[abstract karma]

IT was our fault we get so scammed from these compannies tho..

After just merely 25 years of gaming we shifted from "owning product" to "owning licence to use product for time it offered"

[junior oyster]

Back to teamspeak someday

[jade jackal]

TS had a chance to claw back market, but their new software has been stuck in beta hell

FOR 5 YEARS

[twilit mountain]

I am unironically more critical of Steam than any other storefront. They're loaded. They can turn down their cut of profits, especially for indie devs. They wouldn't be desperate for a damn thing. They could also, like, idk, maybe stop having mass security leaks on the reg. Kinda ridiculous.

[maiden widget]

Wdym?

[junior oyster]

I mean even with phys copies of games we technically don't own the game. It's still a licence. But I get what you mean though.

[gilded elm]

Steam has a lot of invisible costs that I appreciate as a consumer. I feel like Steam is reinvesting into consumers, but I see a lot of the invisible work they do in the Linux gaming scene and how that pushes forward product decisions like the Steam Deck (one of Valve's greatest product lines).

[fierce moth]

Can I add you as friend on discord? You shocked me always. You're wise.

[gilded elm]

Sure, of course.

[junior oyster]

Yea Steam as a storefront might be bad for devs but for us as gamers it's one of the best things to exist

Compare it to PS or Xbox store or hell nintendon't

[jade jackal]

Valve's contribution to Linux gaming can't be overstated

[abstract karma]

haha console corporates >.> their doom is their fault of greed

[blissful token]

Kay i dont know any of this but i just wanna throw name out.... Epic Games

[gilded elm]

Yeah, and it's questionable whether it's "bad for devs" because ultimately what matters is that consumers are happy and that's why they flock to Steam, not because Steam has a stranglehold on storefronts.

[junior oyster]

Is that another name for ubisoft?

[maiden widget]

It's crazy how much money epic spent on being a rival to steam with free games yet they didnt offer remotely the same functionality in all that time

[gilded elm]

I already consider Epic's store worse than Steam simply because of their crappy practice of exclusives.

[junior oyster]

The only store that is technically better than Steam is 'gog' but guess what many devs don't want to put their games on that store

[jade jackal]

Epic has also spent crazy amounts of money directly into game development of guest studios

namely, Remedy

[gilded elm]

I actually do respect GOG because of their DRM-free commitment, I think that's a worthy cause.

[junior oyster]

Yep

[gilded elm]

No respect for Epic whatsoever.

[junior oyster]

I have total annihilation on GoG

[jade jackal]

Epic used to be awesome, they used to be the best

I grew up on Epic Megagames

[gilded elm]

I use Steam not because I feel forced to, but because it genuinely provides the best experience with the least scumminess.

[jade jackal]

I remember Tim's own Jill of the Jungle, i played the heck out of that series

[maiden widget]

the save sync on steam alone is so good its hard to not use it

sadly gog sync is kinda hit and miss for me

[junior oyster]

Yea this

[jade jackal]

Well, Steam has some issues in some regions of the world - regarding pricing

in some places, Steam's game prices are alarmingly high

much higher than native stores

[junior oyster]

I don't own a PS or Xbox but have used the Xbox app and aside from gamepass (a few years ago) I didn't like their app

And don't even get me started on nintendon't

Never even bothering to lower their freaking prices

[blissful token]

Nintend~ nvm

[junior oyster]

Also I enjoy nintendo games more on steamdeck

[gilded elm]

All of which is in the control of the game dev/publisher who manages that game on Steam, as far as I know. I'm not in the know on the specifics of how this ends up happening, but to my understanding it's possible for the dev/publisher to go in and adjust regional pricing as they see fit.

[blissful token]

Still feel abit salty with their patent-ing

[junior oyster]

Blame WB for patenting nemesis system

[jade jackal]

For some reason, there seems like there are places just constantly bombarded by super high pricing. Take Poland for example. They are always on top 4-5 prices for games, of all kinds

[junior oyster]

I never even played that game and I'm angry ah for it

[jade jackal]

I dont believe everyone unanimously screws Poland

Despite tens of thousands of requests, Valve doesnt seem bothered with it

[gilded elm]

Yeah I've heard about the Poland issue. I assume this is an issue with the "default" regional pricing when the dev/publisher doesn't go in and manually adjust it. That's fair though, the default should be sane.

[jade jackal]

But yeah, as a platform, especially for indie games, Steam is sort of irreplaceable

Without Steam, i wouldnt discover half my indie library

[blissful token]

Nemesis system? I only know this term from shadow of war

[maiden widget]

poland just has no regional pricing and higher taxes than germany

[junior oyster]

Probably cheaper to book a flight to the UK, make a steam account here and buy off the UK prices

[junior oyster]

Yea it was WB right?

[jade jackal]

ah, Nemesis system

Thanks WB, very cool

[junior oyster]

They were one of the first gaming companies to patent something like that

[jade jackal]

Patent once, never use again

[blissful token]

Ouchie

[jade jackal]

on the note of possibly good things, ive seen that Carbon came out into early funding

That's great, i was a big fan of the idea when first published

[junior oyster]

No idea what that is sorry

[jade jackal]

For years i was begging for a cyberfuture setting for an isometric ARPG

Its that

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/carbonarpg/carbon-scifi-action-arpg

[gilded elm]

I hope they refine and end up keeping the new personal calendar feature they just added. I found so many new games worth adding to my wishlist.

[junior oyster]

FNV remaster I hope

[gilded elm]

Looks a lot better than 40k Martyr lol

[junior oyster]

FNV yooooo

Please let it be a remaster

[maiden widget]

sadly not a high bar, both warhammer arpgs were pretty lame

[junior oyster]

Lol nvm

It was just some phys goods

[gilded elm]

Yeah, dunno why the game gets high praise but both the game and its tech stack sucks.

[maiden widget]

i really disliked the itemization and boring scenery in inquisitor martyr

3% chance to small effect is just 💤

[gilded elm]

Just a shallow game in general considering the depth of 40k lore that was (or should have been) available to them.

So much opportunity to actually make a crazy ARPG there.

[junior oyster]

I should have known bethesda would ragebait me

[junior oyster]

Oh yea I remember this game. I thought it got cancelled lol

[jade jackal]

I remember joining their Discord when the idea came up

gave some short feedback then scadaddled

but ill be happy to pledge into the kickstarter, help them out and get a copy

So i did, i pledged, quite a bit lol

[junior oyster]

Damn son how much?

[jade jackal]

the sum of about 74 USD

All the money i saved by not buying anything else in a while

[junior oyster]

Rover?

[jade jackal]

ye

Seemed like the best bang for buck for those who want in early

[fierce moth]

My Jesus. lol we're knew by the common thing we love, voxel art.

GD have fan art which better than mines a lot.

Glad to see different versions of understanding for necropolis from different people :)

lol but maybe the best work don't belong to any games is a better thing

I love my neo-gothic the most. Gothic is my soul

🤔 The only work I can use to compete with that on the influence is Aggorat for poe 2 I think

[abstract karma]

19 mins to hyper or flop

[radiant helm]

mine would be looter

looter

looter

looter

yakuza

looter

[fierce moth]

?! I just realize the live stream is one more hour earlier than before

[vagrant topaz]

8 min

[mental talon]

What

The

Eff

@twilit mountain Please tell me you're watching this

[abstract karma]

not bad remade breach but idk why so many "trees"

[twilit mountain]

I'm cleaning. A lot.

[junior oyster]

Not watching stream

Anything interesting qol wise

Aside from async ofc

[abstract karma]

toop many items on chaotic "grafting" 😄

[fierce moth]

🤔 why I feel this keeper passive tree is as similar as le's weaver tree lol

Another type of imprint system?

[mental talon]

Necropolis League got turned into a Tree

@twilit mountain NEW SKILLS AND NEW SUPPORTS

[abstract karma]

new bow gems but not exactly to be used by Ranger >.>

[ebon meadow]

ok so this is the league that was promised that poe1 was going to go foward no matter poe2 development , holy ...

this is fine

[mental talon]

Wow

I'm unironically speechless

[gilded elm]

This is way more than just a league, it's a whole ass major expansion (and more) delivered in 4 months. This is more content than $50 expansions from certain other games.

[twilit mountain]

If they're bad I'm going to eat their keyboards. All of them.

Mad I'm not available for league launch lol

[fierce moth]

So it's the best league so far?

[gilded elm]

Eventually you hit a bottleneck with how much content you can produce relative to how many people you can hire to work on said content... but GGG is something else. It's crazy how efficient GGG's development process is.

[mental talon]

God damn I can't believe this is real

How is this even possible

[fierce moth]

👀 I'm not sure which new contents waiting me to learn yet

[mental talon]

I might unironically buy two supporter packs this league lmao

[twilit mountain]

Buy me one /s

[desert jasper]

I'd buy one but eh
don't got the dosh for it

[vagrant topaz]

I might give the league a try

Looks fun

[gilded elm]

It looks overwhelming. Not a complaint, it's just... a lot.

[mental talon]

and that's why I log in alkLFG

[abstract karma]

yea its overhelming a bit... it agains means if you sleep 1-2 weeks then you need build which can be played in SF otherwise you will be stuck

[mental talon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers

[maiden widget]

seems cool so far, kinda hype for the first time in a long while

[gilded elm]

"Stuck" is kind of a relative thing, since everyone has different goals. If I don't have enough time to fully enjoy the content, that's okay. It's good that they're catering to their core audience.

I doubt I'll play much... don't know if I'll play at all. Still, this sounds like an insane league.

[desert jasper]

I guess this league explains how chayula isn't a part of the breachlord in poe2

[wise hazel]

Was hoping for WASD movement, I'm so used to it now on LE

[abstract karma]

idk since this is kind of reworked breach ? I mean even if it means this entity would perish till events of PoE 2 (as in PoE 1 we god-slayed maybe god-like entities) its still under "breach" i guess

[desert jasper]

Well since the flame guys seem to worship Chaluppa
And we saw "It that was Tul"

[ebon meadow]

part 2 of my actual first league played when is started poe

i love breach or anything that just adds monster to screen

[fierce moth]

lol Xesht come from poe 2 to poe, interesting

[desert jasper]

Breach was in poe1 first.

[fierce moth]

I never fight with Xesht in poe 2. Now, I have a chance to meet this boss lol

[mental talon]

Xesht isnt a boss in POE 1 for Breach 2.0 btw

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhhh It's the core!

Damn... I can grow the tree by myself?! It's the most cool concept I hear

[junior oyster]

I'll skip

[fierce moth]

...?

[wise hazel]

You can get it to spawn items, including uniques, it felt kinda like their take on CoF

[keen wind]

I'm confident in the kinetic orbs, surely overlap AoE spam won't fail me

[wise hazel]

or weavers tree

[junior oyster]

Skipping the league

[fierce moth]

not sure cof stuff but I feel it's close to weaver tree indeed

I'm sure I'll spend a lot of time on figuring out how to grow my tree lol

[junior oyster]

Just follow a guide

[fierce moth]

yes, it wouldn't be poe if no guides I need to watch lol

[desert jasper]

I think I'll just go with my gut feeling when it comes to the tree

[wise hazel]

WASD got mentioned, it's a plan for the future, so that's cool.

[fierce moth]

Path of exiles X
Path of guides :)
Hhhhh

[abstract karma]

i just will go either with bow ranger or reworked critical shadow

[desert jasper]

I'm quite sure I'll go poison

[abstract karma]

New gems and support looks interesting to mess with but new bow gems are made for bow with different character classes than ranger

[junior oyster]

I will definitely not play poe and will definitely not go srs necro

[desert jasper]

Just not sure what I'll use to deliver the load

Anyway
Time to finally go sleep
Gonna read the patch notes in the morning without understanding a thing 👍

[junior oyster]

Same

[fierce moth]

💤 good night. I go to sleep too

If I can't understand single thing in patch note... I just ignore that

But maybe I can understand something

? Oh. No patch note yet

[ebon meadow]

gl with that i usually read them then watch 3-4 people break them down so i can sinc it in my poor little brain

[twilit mountain]

@mental talon I'm nto the only one a tad underwhelmed with the patchnotes, right? Especially on the skill side of things, really weak lookin patch for that imo

[mental talon]

I just wanna play with the Bloodline Ascendancy and Breach Tree ngl

[twilit mountain]

Yeah content wise it looks fantastic, it's just skill patch seems really... shit. Like really shit.

[desert jasper]

I expected more from the patch notes 🤔

[twilit mountain]

Right?

[desert jasper]

i'll still play it but

[warped wren]

Kalandra tier notes

[desert jasper]

Ah I can't remeember those

[twilit mountain]

Good, it was bad

[fierce moth]

I'm not sure what bloodlines mean yet...

10 bloodline ascendencies, they provide different buffs, these buffs need you to kill corresponding bosses, once you get an ascendency and allocate points on that, these buffs are permanently but you can just select one of them?

Yeah, so instead of 8 points in ascendancy, you could do 6 and then 2 on bloodlines, or 4 and 4, etc

Wow damn it's a big revolution for ascendencies...

Imagine if these bloodline ascendencies live on Poe 2 too... I need to consider which ascendency nodes should I take more carefully

All current characters need to rethink ascendency nodes again

[fierce moth]

It was the last potential contrast I made. The other one is happened recently, metal fence :)

Learnt a lesson that fence will looks more fancy if more negative space is left. The one from imperial welryn looks less interesting because too many patterns I want.
The one from necropolis looks better a lot after I cut a part of them.

[fierce moth]

lol make choices for watching a tv show is too fun... Quite stressful too.

The choice maybe let me be slain immediately or go to a bad ending

[desert jasper]

It's only relevant late game
Casual players might not see any of the bosses.

[desert jasper]

I know I haven't bothered with Sanctum at all since the league
And I have seen maybe... 2 or 3 Auls total since Delve league
and I haven't actually fought king of the mists in poe1

[desert jasper]

I've been considering maybe going for stormbrand poison instead
but then I remembered that I don't actually like the brand playstyle

[mental talon]

It's looking like Inquisitor, Assassin, or Elementalist start for me I think. Really want to see Bloodline Ascendancies badly

[fierce moth]

lol I think I find something interesting randomly... Let me compare guide videos for poe 2/le from youtube and bilibili so maybe I can find something different to inspire myself

Oh yes... This arena. I mentioned that before. Very interesting and unique because of these audiences

[fierce moth]

Spams I mentioned

No idea how to eat that indeed

[desert jasper]

You can put it on bread
fry on a pan
etc

It's not that good tasting really

[abstract karma]

Its not for taste its for hunger

[desert jasper]

yes, that too
used to be cheap but went up a lot in price for some reason

[jade jackal]

spam spam spam eggs bacon and spam

[sand wigeon]

You can do a lot with it.

I’d say cut it into inched cubes and fry it in a pan with leftover rice and and veggies.

[desert jasper]

Hmm... do I convert another premium tab to merchant tab or just keep it as extra storage 🤔

[twilit mountain]

Conversion time

[celest wagon]

Eey, found an 8.
cool.
about 1 in 1200 games

[desert jasper]

Tbh I don't even remember where to convert it lul

[twilit mountain]

Website

[celest wagon]

Nostalgia afternoon 🙂

[fierce moth]

End the work for this artwork finally and I have no idea what am I doing in the whole process so I have no idea do I regret to brush a layer of yellow & orange...

[sudden anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/leberkäse-leberkässemmerl-liver-cheese-leberkassemmerl-leberkas-gif-16660151

Looks like Leberkäse to me. The one with cheese in it is so good. Or the chili cheese one. We usually eat these in a breadroll

Ofc warm. Supermarkets make them fresh everywhere

[fierce moth]

(Energy is too low so I'm overthinking for a while)

This path is quite confusing. Full of questions and unknown... Traditional painting test the undertanding of basic so hard

The biggest block is I know too less on which stuff should I place and how to draw them under special angles accurately

[junior oyster]

I watch one poe channel and this is all I see lol

[abstract karma]

i mean what you except ? That bunch of them will be trying in standard classes according new update ? as "starter" ?

These guys has so many hours behind PoE 1 that they just go to Path of Building making new starting meta and then propagate that in their different channels..

[junior oyster]

I mean I don't see any other games being shown to me

All because of one stream I barely watched

[abstract karma]

welp twitch trying to stick on things you watc most or you have linked acc to

[junior oyster]

I guess so

Though I never watch poe streams

Maybe cuz I followed ziz a long time ago

[fierce moth]

Sigh. First time to trap in a case that no choice can avoid the death...

[junior oyster]

Looks like a drama

[fierce moth]

TDLR: A couple can't be met again because of etiquette for a dynasty.

A princess meet a monk in a temple to protect her candles when she preying Buddha to protect his father be safe in a war. Then she thanks the monk by brought bread she baked but these bread are fall down because she fall over uncarefully. The monk don't mind that, ate breads she baked so the princess think he's a kind friend to trust.

As the time going, the relationship between the princess and the monk go closer and closer. But as the princess, she can't have the access to select who's the people to marriage. It's the rule and the fate can't be changed because the quest for a princess is connect minsters by marriages. It cause a big bad influence within civilizations because of the rumour, "a lowly monk even touch the princess's skin, will the monk capture the power of royal and end the dynasty".

So, her father, the emperor decide to kill the monk. Princess be trapped in her home and can't come out because of the order of his father. The monk is the favourite people for the princess so the princess is extreme sad but she can do nothing. The next day, the monk is executed follows the order. The priness never can see her the one again.

[desert jasper]

It's just one of the "choose your path" games

[fierce moth]

So, it's a tragic.

[desert jasper]

"oops wrong dialogue, you die now"

[fierce moth]

:) Sometimes, I'm on the same case with this princess.

Glad to see people don't understand this case... It'll quite tough

[desert jasper]

What, you're a part of a couple that can't meet again?
a princess, even?

[fierce moth]

Trapped in a puzzle, no way to solve.

No. I just think this story on "the fate" side

[fierce moth]

alright. I don't have amazon account hhhh

I want to explore what prime video is suddenly

[junior oyster]

It's not worth it

[desert jasper]

Yeah, not worth it

[fierce moth]

yes, I even can't sign in with my Chinese phone number but sign up account require my phone number

Fine. Play games on steam is the only common entertainment without region blocks which quite convenient and cheap too.

tv shows and movies are quite tricky to get resources

I think that's why game industry is much bigger than tv shows and film industry too

[fierce moth]

Wolcen is the only common topic unfortunately... I'm addicted in road to emperor but it have the own culture limit

Before poe start the new league. But I can't talk about too much about that before I know how to play that

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101> spam

Ty mods

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[fierce moth]

how do you know where should add shadows and where should not add shadows?

Similar question. Where suppose to add similar colours and where suppose to keep the original?

hah... GD 2?! Crate studio confirm to develop GD 2!?

Ok no announcement. So this news can be ignored

[vagrant topaz]

They just released they management/survival game "Farthest Frontier"

Next they will do a rts (real time strategy, think age of empire)

Then after that GD

[desert jasper]

Love me some rts

[vagrant topaz]

Yup

[desert jasper]

I did also buy Farthest Frontier when it came available in early access
But it's not really my type of game

[tawny sand]

i'm playing it right now, it's very good if you like town builders with survival elements

[desert jasper]

Tbh it probably has come a long way since... 14th of august 2022

[abstract karma]

Yea forum nothing, last 2 leagues nothing, discord nothing..

Seems that there aren't any build which were somehow used with Assassin in PoE 1 (maybe except hexblast >.>)

[fierce moth]

Do you accept your fate?

Yes.
No. (It's appeared after yes is here for a while)

Nice detail...

If I want to accept my fate, I'll click yes immediately.
But if I'm hesitated... Maybe I have a chance to write my fate in a different way.

Hah? The story is over... More is coming soon. Alright... This branch is done

🙏 The final report

[neon sigil]

Light and shadow interacts with your 3d form, you use contours or imagine the shapes after you've learned about contours to place your forms to help you apply your light and shadow.
On the latter, I follow the big medium small rule.

[fierce moth]

You paint colours follow your feeling after you confirm its contour? How are you decide which colours suppose to go in shadow areas?

[neon sigil]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLQ0cDb4cE

This is a good introduction to it.

But for color choices, color theory and a strong understanding of light and shadow.

[fierce moth]

🤣 🤭 CPU is burnt

[vagrant topaz]

This looks really nice

I like the style

[neon sigil]

Thanks vlad!

[vagrant topaz]

You said it was for a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

[sudden anchor]

Whats going on, folks? Soon, ill go out to collect some good vibes in a party. In the meantime i wonder what you are up to, its so silent here today.
Edit: good idea to share this, Deias, i switched to folks

[sand wigeon]

“Fellas”

[sudden anchor]

How do you feel about that?

Oh, i didnt mean to exclude anyone. I was under the impression, fellas is a genderneutral word, but seems to be refering to men.

[twilit mountain]

I like using folks

[twilit mountain]

Dream and I are hanging out with a friend all weekend, so we're pretty chill. How bout you?

[fierce moth]

....I fall asleep until now

I have no idea how to go to bed again, after...2h? lol...

[fierce moth]

Thanks, this video is pretty inspiring.

[sudden anchor]

Working on my discord notifications, as i must have muted the wrong section. I guess offtopic is under community? Gonna unmute and try.

[fierce moth]

After working in the gaming industry for seven years, I received a full scholarship to study game design.
As an account dedicated to sharing works and collecting stories, I rarely share my own story here.

As I write these words, it’s October 15th (actually, it’s already the 16th), the first day the EU Erasmus Program REPLAY opened applications for 2026. It’s been half a year since I received the full scholarship acceptance letter in April, and I’ve already been studying for a month.

Before this, I had worked as a concept artist in the gaming industry for seven years.
I’ve experienced everything from major studios to mid-sized companies and startups—meetings, overtime, rushing to meet deadlines—I’ve been through the industry’s entire pace.
But the further I went, the more clearly I realized:
What I love is not just having a "career," but continuing to explore the vast possibilities of "gaming" itself.

So I decided to start over.
The name of the REPLAY program fittingly means "a fresh start."
It’s a two-year master’s program under the EU Erasmus Mundus scheme, focusing on Game Design across three different European countries.
The full scholarship covers the €15,000 tuition for two years and provides a monthly living allowance of €1,400. The program admits only 24 students each year, and to maintain diversity, only one or two students are accepted from each country or region. Because of this, my classmates come from all corners of the world.

We attend various sharing sessions and game clubs, pull all-nighters for game jams in ancient castles, and hunt for second-hand items at flea markets to create peripheral devices... Under the bright sun of Lisbon, everyone brings their unique cultural backgrounds and imaginations to explore the endless possibilities of gaming.

What a wonderful story is. This is a very cool story which I wish I can write that too...

[junior oyster]

I can't tell if that is some AI prompt or the real thing

[maiden widget]

lots of emdash id say ai

[fierce moth]

Everyone is an expert in xxxx company/industry and get xxxx reward/have xxxx nomination on the internet... I mean they have highlight moments to share always

[junior oyster]

It reeks of ai

[sudden anchor]

Thats social media

[junior oyster]

Apparently it is the real thing huh

Still that comment feels like a chatgpt prompt (or something similar). idk

[sudden anchor]

This server's settings are done. Now the rest of the 20 servers im in. Wish there was an addon, that allowed to have one overview over selected channels out of different discord Servers...

[maiden widget]

social media for many is just a way to flex/pose over others with lots of white lies

[junior oyster]

Reading that last sentence lool

Game jams, ancient castles and second hand items at flea markets

What

[fierce moth]

Replay is real

[junior oyster]

I'm aware

I'm on about the obvious chatgpt comment you posted

Or whoever was the original poster w/e

[maiden widget]

yes doesnt mean the rest is real or happened as is

[desert jasper]

Ah, Aalto University
It's been a while since I was there

[fierce moth]

🤔 I think the date is sus... Why this people can join in this plan in the first day the EU Erasmus Program REPLAY opened applications for 2026?

Why they can get this extra access

[sudden anchor]

As ai is designed to make the user happy, the chance we see ai made stuff in texts is becoming real high. And ai is making up stuff alot.

[junior oyster]

Damn kirra loves posting white backgrounds

Ok nvm it's my older monitor that makes site look whiter than normal

Defo need a new monitor

[fierce moth]

this reason is make sense. This people is too hurry

[sudden anchor]

Yea, as you use more and more ai, that is becoming increasingly better too, i see why people du*b down (lack of better word rn, sry)

[fierce moth]

IP is in Portugal indeed. Maybe it's a normal student who study in Portugal and like painting only

(All Chinese social medias must expose the own ip)

[sudden anchor]

You will be fast, sure, but it costs you the experience of doing it yourself, which partly is confined of fulfillment.
It steals your soul, if youre not careful.

[fierce moth]

My mind jump to imagine what happen if a game studio use AI to write patch notes and announcements

[neon sigil]

Ye! Im making a roguelike

[fierce moth]

But I can't recognize that. But it's well on improving efficiency. But it will let people don't trust this game studio anymore.

[neon sigil]

@vagrant topaz some other work for it so far. Im redoing the environment art atm tho

[fierce moth]

🤔 How are your character run in this dungeon map

They're in game as stickers directly?

I remind of wildermyth, this game have unique art style which fresh and fun

[neon sigil]

Yep!

[fierce moth]

Another valuable memory about a game but I forget most of them already...

[fierce moth]

lol interesting logic. It can save a lot on animation

[fierce moth]

I'm not satisfied that the map isn't a sticker too

It's better if everything are stickers

[neon sigil]

Im redsigning it rn 😛

Itll have a sticker border on walls when its done like this

[fierce moth]

Nice to meet you, sticker Roctetman 😛

[desert jasper]

Man
I can't wait for the poe poe league

[sudden anchor]

They are playing poe in poe?

Like building a minecraft game in minecraft, this is a real thing actually.

[desert jasper]

I honestly didn't even realize I typed poe twice

[junior oyster]

I'm in 2 minds about it

I feel like I'm kinda done with poe1 and it feels a bit too complex for me at this point

Also too much content (should be a good thing but not for me)

And yea I'm aware I can stick to one or two types of content but I'm never able to consistently do said content

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1ofst7i/ggg_ready_to_catch_some_toucans_in_the_chat/
Real toucan is here

[fierce moth]

@hot crown How are you sign up your account of Kuro games without Chinese phone numbers (for wuthering waves)?

I wonder how international players play Chinese online games suddenly

I wish I can sign up an account with my email address instead of my phone numbers if I can 🙃

Oh... It require your ID too

[hot crown]

The game is global. I only needed a functioning email.

[fierce moth]

You download and update this game on steam?

[hot crown]

Nope, I'm using its native launcher.

[fierce moth]

I guess they will recoganize my internet ip then

[hot crown]

Honestly? The whole "great firewall" thing is such a stupid idea. There're better things to do rather than dictate people what they can and cannot read/write.

For instance, like, actually making life for everybody in the country better.

Guess it's a foreign concept entirely after all, but what do I know...

[sudden anchor]

Its weird to argue this, but could you imagine we are being lied to? And china or any country wants to protect its people? It doesnt exclusively have to come down to western world being bad, but rather their perception of us. So we should connect more with them, this is the way

[hot crown]

Reaching out and connecting is one thing, violently stifling literally EVERY single shred of info ever so slightly grazing the "powers-that-be", including IRL (you should know which "incident" exactly I'm talking about), is another.

I myself exist in a country whose "higher-ups" hate regular people like myself with burning passion to the point of open raging ethnocide which nobody on the globe gives half a crap about, given how we're universally (and VERY unfairly) labeled as "accomplices in the ongoing war", so I'd very much like this "censor this, erase that" mentality to be universally gone for good. But alas.

[vagrant topaz]

If you ever need someone to test stuff 👀👀

[sudden anchor]

Very interesting to hear affected people in said countries, broadens my horizont, thnk you!

[neon sigil]

will do.
I have someone lined up to do a small jam with.

Sad thing is it means imma miss the launch of poe to work on this

[twilit mountain]

I offer my services as well. Also I'm missing league start too lol

[neon sigil]

👀

[fierce moth]

Such a pity that the time of Vezi's complicated curved pumpkin always is the cold time for le. Poor players still keeping.

I almost forget anniversary pumpkin from Vezi... Bad memory I have

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3326230/Hozy/

Rare to discover an indie game from ins... Be cozy and do something satisfying! I'm into that.

[fierce moth]

It's the login in window I saw.

+86 type in your phone number
type in your sign-in code Get code

Agree terms of privacy and user agreement

Log in

The icon at the bottom is switch to scan QR code by phone

But the language in game is EN in default Odd

...Oh maybe it follow the language I set on Windows. I use English as the system language whatever Windows or Steam

hah interesting... My character will recover the hp bar automatically... 😅 My game is over usually under this case but wuthering waves just fix my mistakes and let me go on playing

[hot crown]

Must be strictly-Chinese.

I wouldn't know for certain because I haven't been there once, nor can I speak the language.

Btw, I'm assuming you managed to get into the game in the end? May I ask where are you right now story-wise?

[celest wagon]

A layer a day keeps the doctor away.

[blissful token]

[tawny sand]

duet night abyss is available for pre-download, seems the steam version will release later. Gotta use the standalone client for now

[blissful token]

owh?

[tawny sand]

yep yep, there's also the epic version i guess

<@&1161418687471956101> spam

[abstract karma]

Can't we just kick out / ban this account ? It obvious its bot..

[vagrant topaz]

Done chief !

[tawny sand]

thanks

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/998940/_The_Invisible_Guardian/?curator_clanid=45680577
Wait, this game don't available in another regions except China?

This game support Chinese only, no English

[vagrant topaz]

not available in france

[junior oyster]

Not in UK either

[tawny sand]

i like that "oops" is "oups" in french

[junior oyster]

Probably for the best because it's censored to hell and back

[fierce moth]

hah I see why are they maybe confused what have I discussed about road to emperor and new one studio then...

Alright, alright.

[junior oyster]

Road to emperoress is the story based game right?

If so that was released here too

Doom but for kids?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1057640/Onirism/

I'm kidding

[fierce moth]

I'm quite desire to hear more stories now... Damn weekend plan and road to emperor :(

[fierce moth]

6 years... alright. I never read a new story by watching a tv show series or movies or games in 6 years... I closed myself for too long time.
I don't have any life.

[hot crown]

She says she has no life... I'm literally pigeonholed in here with a ~5-years-old torpedo of a kid, my only "life" consists of "go outside either for a short walk, or to walk the kid to/from the kindergarten, or for a shopping run".

If that's "life", then I'm a caterpillar.

[sudden anchor]

Anyone experienced in building a tinyhouse out of wood?

[blissful token]

[desert jasper]

And then you'll just oneshot every boss you see

[blissful token]

oo I am also a ||Paintress|| now

[fierce moth]

You're trapped by your kid, I'm trapped by my income, fair.

[blissful token]

wow I dont know where to start in Act 3

[abstract karma]

geez everytime there is some serious and true reddit post about downfall of mmo's then some moderator "remove it" from that subreddit mmorpg

It's such joke that they wanna just talk about mmo's whose quality at lowest lvl... >.>

[hot crown]

I'm trapped by both.

My monthly salary is like ~CNY1400 on a good day.

[proper nymph]

https://duetnightabyss.dna-panstudio.com/dna-event?inviteCode=62C633309E
invite link to DNA...which will be released in 1.5 days.
warfame-like game, but anime-style and also on mobiles

[hot crown]

↑I'll pass. Already managing three gachas, and even those I'm barely forcing through at this point.

Apparently having a case of burnout from gaming in general.

[maiden widget]

i mean sounds like you treat that gacha business as work, time to take a break

[junior oyster]

Man some of these twitch streamers with AI holos or w/e they are on borderline nsfw

[maiden widget]

@twilit mountain you were right gdscript is kinda nice, it just feels like 2 steps back from a real IDE to code in the godot engine window, i really miss the code navigation features and refactoring from jetbrains tools

but hey my podcast player mostly works now on my handheld \o/

[hot crown]

You mean vtuber models?

[junior oyster]

I guess

I just call them holo

[hot crown]

They're usually called that, afaik.

HoloLive is just one of the studios employing those for their "talents".

IIRC anyway.

I'm not savvy enough.

But I concur, those can be pretty unhinged at times.

Then again, can't really help it. Sex sells after all.

Can't exactly pay your bills with modesty if you work in that field.

Some people do make it work somehow, but those are closer to outliers, imo.

[fierce moth]

hah... Complete the video finally but I'm lost

...Start simple. So where should I start...

No idea what thing do I want to paint from the real life at next

And... That's a pretty simple case to be honest because single material only. If I want to paint something, somewhere in the real life, multiple materials is what I must face, like... How ambient light work on fabric or animals?

... Maybe I should watch more guides about ambient light at first

[twilit mountain]

Sweet! Glad it's working out for you!

I'm just gonna pre-emptively do this <@&1161418687471956101> because I don't see this going down a good road

[sand wigeon]

What the %@$! are you talking about.

[maiden widget]

its just funny that i cant get my controller mappings right, i can just get dpad + start button working doesnt matter what else i assign to ui_accept

sweet is there some automation to get rid of the scammers with the 4 jpg images now?

[desert jasper]

no
mods working fast

[maiden widget]

props 😄

[desert jasper]

Think they don't need to remove them from all the channels separately anymore

[fierce moth]

lol find something I can understand after I watch the other video but from this artist still

[candid sage]

we have evolved, yes

[desert jasper]

I am aware

[fierce moth]

I don't care if you're the king of China.
China don't have a king.

[abstract karma]

every country has ruler tho no matter what type of government

[mental talon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3869178

[fierce moth]

GGG go to work so early... 7:00 only

I wonder will they announce the result of poe 2 fan art competition this week... It seems they will not because they're preparing poe's new league

[twilit mountain]

Weird. Some of them are really good. Some of them are uh... not good at all.

[desert jasper]

Yeah
Lycia bloodline looks good but I'm not gonna run sanctum for that lul

[fierce moth]

I find Aul one is attracting because of this branch

[desert jasper]

I'm not a fan of sacrificing gem sockets for that tbh
Though it can be strong

[twilit mountain]

Free for anyone who uses Kaom's

[desert jasper]

Well yeah

But you're not sacrificing gem sockets if you're already wearing a kaom's

[twilit mountain]

Can be alright for builds that use the abyss uniques as well, assuming they don't absolutely need two sockets

[desert jasper]

Just wear the replica abyssal chest

[maiden widget]

most are either pretty mid or just raw stats kinda hoped for more

[fierce moth]

well, discuss is maybe wrong word, they talk when I sit quietly and imagining their lightly salted faces frying in a skillet.

[junior oyster]

Is olroth even good? Isn't ward kinda meh?

Or did they change it so it's better?

[desert jasper]

I think at some point they made it refresh faster?

[junior oyster]

I'm not sure if I'd even spec into cata if I want to go minion srs

I guess if I have multi spectres (3 or 4) the 12% increase defences per spectres could be nice

[twilit mountain]

Ward is cracked. Always has been.

It's just complicated.

[maiden widget]

if you have a 5% restore chance you can now basically get it refreshed close to 100% of the time - super cracked if you hit a lot

[twilit mountain]

Yup. Insanity. With that and the flask combined you should be nearly immortal on a good investment.

[maiden widget]

might be a viable option for my stupid ngamahus cycloner poison build to actually not be paper for once

[mental talon]

Yeah I've seen a few that open up some weird things I have brewing in my head. Like I think some are sneaky good value (action speed immunity is neat, herald one is actually pretty interesting with some reservation scaling negatively Honourhome etc, idk the Minion stuff probably good idk don't shoot me, the ward on hit like Deias and Faust already said, the Aul charge node for Aurabots, the Deli DR node assuming it allows for gems in Cluster jewels to work) etc

I think I'm gonna have to remake my league start Elementalist Spark PoB now

[twilit mountain]

The Deli DR thing looks horrible to me. I'm reading it as "non-cluster jewels have no effect" which is just terrible

I need PoB updated at least tree/ascendancy wise so I can plan properly

[maiden widget]

deli dr looks a bit like bait to people stopping after line 1

its not terrible but the 2 downsides hit hard

[mental talon]

It ultimately depends on if it works the way how Adorned was intended to work originally (ignored jewels in Cluster jewels originally but they couldn't get it to work so they just changed Adorned to see all jewels)

If it works like reverse OG Adorned then it gets obviously great value, but I think it's contingent on that

[twilit mountain]

Well another issue is that it's "lose life"

Which

Is bad

You can't counter it outside of just overleeching or hyper regen

[mental talon]

Well luckily that isn't the hardest thing to come by in current day heh

Is there any easy way to get Supreme Ego or is only Skin of the Lord's?

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, play right side xdd

[mental talon]

Smh

[neon sigil]

my foot cracked.
It hurts.

[twilit mountain]

Old man

[neon sigil]

yes, this is old man.
How may I help you youngin?

[twilit mountain]

I'm tiiiired, my feeeeeet hurt, are we there yeeeet?

[neon sigil]

Did I show ya my wizard

[twilit mountain]

I... think so? I'm not sure

[sand wigeon]

I showed you my wizard now show me yours

[neon sigil]

-opens trenchcoat-
Yer a wizard, lizard.

[sand wigeon]

[neon sigil]

-opens trenchcoat-

[desert jasper]

It's even cooler the 2nd time

[neon sigil]

that was my phone sending it 5 minutes later. lmao

it might even send it a third time.

[desert jasper]

Ye that happened often to a friend of mine

[warped wren]

Magicka vibes

[twilit mountain]

I can't think of the word but like... 100% the kinda wizard to pull up with a fireball equal to like 35 nukes and go "TAHDAAAAH"

[neon sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-gif-22471891

oh we can't do gifs here.

I am sad.

[junior stirrup]

We don't want to have any arkidents.

[fierce moth]

Do we have expected time for when GGG announce results of Poe 2 fan art competition?

No hope for this week, right?

[junior stirrup]

Not my thing to say. If it has been mentioned already you can look that up. If it hasn't, welp, you get to find out.

[fierce moth]

CM mention nothing about when will they announce that in the instruction of this competition indeed

Mysterious team

https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-culture-communications-and-sport/campaigns/basic-income-for-the-arts-pilot-scheme/
Irish have an excellent fate...

Chinese? lol maybe... 30 years later.

[blissful token]

Damn i dont know which server to select in duet night abyss. Milestone rewards go to selected server

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/s/foauEEUDce

Yo, new weapon and new char every 28 days?

[tawny sand]

how are you selecting server? I didn't have that option

[blissful token]

Gotta login first on the website

[tawny sand]

huh weird, i have but never got the server selection

maybe it's region locked in the us dunno

[blissful token]

[tawny sand]

i guess i could have also not seen it and mis-clicked and it chose the wrong server 😬 but yeah no idea

[blissful token]

I dont know if i should pick Asia or SEA

[fierce moth]

I think no one will reject that.

[desert jasper]

Sounds like too much relaxing
not being productive

[vagrant topaz]

Ill do that in December if I graduate

[fierce moth]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxwkH3kAqGhD5AWxFsGNZndk7w-_-ErvPS?si=VIWmRO7IRFqeCyZm

Sorry to hear that, but no wrong choice here.
We're players who interested in and want to support good games.

I don't settle in a ARPG yet, too. Loyalty to good games and talented people themselves, not the company indeed :)

I'm sorry to say... I don't have enough motivation to learn Poe's builds by pob because of ugly UI and overwhelming texts...

I hope Poe/Poe 2 have better build planners which can import my builds

[hot crown]

I think my job is rubbing off on me the wrong way... Somehow I took the "rest" part in "restober" as "restoration", as in data recovery. 😵‍💫

[fierce moth]

Lol it's a type of data recovery for humans exactly

[fierce moth]

That's the definition of vacation for me. Of course... It can't lack of painting and photographing.

[fierce moth]

Credit: Indui

These illustrations are insanely fantastic with a soft, cozy and peace vibe. Imaginations are soaked in every details by unique ways from Indui's hands. Good job.

[desert jasper]

oh yea
I had completely forgotten that spellslinger is a thing in poe1
maybe I could do that for the poison assassin instead of going for the tri ele tornado 🤔

[neon sigil]

butter rat

[junior oyster]

Wait which one is the eyes?

[neon sigil]

he has teeth for eyes.

[neon sigil]

Fr tho maybe i should recolor the teeth. Not the first person to mention it

[junior oyster]

You could probably get rid of the teeth

[fierce moth]

lol house of cards was released on 2013...Alright...I'm too outdated

[junior oyster]

No idea what that

[fierce moth]

I don't think I will watch any Chinese tv shows which available at the same period

The level of tv shows in US is quite solid.

[junior oyster]

Depends on the type of show but I almost never watch their "reality" shows

Only one I've sort of liked was kitchen knightmares

And that's cuz of Gordon Ramsey

[fierce moth]

🤔 It have official channel on youtube, cool. I can watch that for free, thanks for your recommendation

[vagrant topaz]

Anyone tried 2XKO ?

[hot crown]

Not me.

[tawny sand]

yes, though i haven't played it in a while

i mained vi, never decided on who i liked as my other character. I was between illaoi and blitzcrank

tbh tho i don't really play fg's as much anymore, idk if i'll check out 2xko again

[fierce moth]

lol this tv show even predict the fate of important persons in white house while 2012... Interesting

Though I still confused who's who in the story after watched e01 and e02 lol

[vagrant topaz]

Maybe its because my last fighting game was very different (brawhalla) but it feels so slow and clunky

[blissful token]

tell me when vlad is released cuz he sucks

[fierce moth]

I want to see the record of your performance after the Halloween 👀

Oh. And I hope meet the team come back too.

[south gust]

IF it happens, I'll post some clips for you guys

[blissful token]

DNA global launch in 18 hrs 🤔

[tawny sand]

i've never played brawhalla so idk, i don't like platform fighters

[tawny sand]

it's 10 more hours i think, it releases 10:00 AM UTC+8

[blissful token]

hmm maybe i used the converter wrong

[tawny sand]

should be this :

United States and South America: 7 pm PDT / 8 pm MDT / 9 pm CDT / 10 pm EDT / 11 pm BRT (October 27, 2025)
Europe: 2 am GMT / 2 am UTC / 3 am CET / 4 am EET (October 28, 2025)
Africa: 4 am SAST (October 28, 2025)
Asia: 6 am GST / 7:30 am IST / 10 am PHT / 10 am CST (Beijing Time / 11 am JST/KST (October 28, 2025)
Australia: 12 pm AEDT noon / 3 pm NZDT (October 28, 2025)

the formatting is a bit missed up but yeh

[fierce moth]

?! Emmmm? I thought 4h time jet between Chinese time and NZ time

oh it's 5h

[blissful token]

rattle 🐍

[fierce moth]

which game engine will you use to cook your game?

Accidentally saying something can easily make people read too deep into it and getting the wrong impression.

Sorry... What is that mean? @desert jasper

[desert jasper]

That if they say something without properly planning the wording it might come out as wrong
or people will miunderstand.
or they'll try to look for a hidden meaning behind it.

Companies have to be very clear and accurate with their wordings when they make a statement, leave as little room for misunderstanding as possible.

But then again, them not saying more than they're preparing a statement also leads to some people thinking they're not going to do one until they're ready to prove thing

[fierce moth]

That if they say something without properly planning the wording it might come out as wrong
or people will miunderstand.
or they'll try to look for a hidden meaning behind it.
Companies have to be very clear and accurate with their wordings when they make a statement, leave as little room for misunderstanding as possible.

Absolutely reasonable.

But then again, them not saying more than they're preparing a statement also leads to some people thinking they're not going to do one until they're ready to prove thing

No idea what another people think and will it think my opinions is wrong, but it's my opinion indeed

Alright update ue from 5.5.6 to 5.6, but crash bug and UI bug still here. Quite a unfortunate.

... It even freeze my system so I have to restart the laptop

[blissful token]

Maelle gets her baguette outfit astoundingly late

[twilit mountain]

<@&1161418687471956101> spam, all channels

[desert jasper]

Why do I feel like practicing my league start
it's 5am
I should be sleeping

[desert jasper]

Oh, new halloween mtx

[neon sigil]

Where?

[desert jasper]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3870097

Ngl
Kinda want the dog & hat

[neon sigil]

Im kinda sad the skeleton skin isnt an actual skin

Like the goblin one

[desert jasper]

what goblin one?

[neon sigil]

From the last season mystery box.

Doesnt work in poe1 tho

[desert jasper]

Ah, right
yeah I don't really follow what's in the mystery boxes

[neon sigil]

Its a new type of mtx. Pretty cool actually

[desert jasper]

And yeah, the skeleton would be kinda neat if it wasn't town only

But then they'd need to give it actual animations

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain It's getting better

0 deaths too

[desert jasper]

Yeah that looks pretty good

[neon sigil]

Man. Off topic.
But i feel like most of the people asking for help with art pull the no, not like that card.

why are hobbyists so closedminded.

[desert jasper]

Because your suggestions don't match what they want or can do
They have this kind of vision in their head but it's not clear enough and or they don't know how to approach it

[fierce moth]

Closedminded? That's why they can be hobbyists only

[desert jasper]

Also doesn't help that people are irrational

[neon sigil]

not what they want sure, but I find a lot of hobbyists neglect the advice that would actually help.

Not just from me, but from other professionals.

Its feels so irrational.

Makes me want to not help people is all. Sorry for the rant.

[fierce moth]

lol you know what....

The thing I'm seeking all the time is get help from professional people 😅

They will not help you if you don't have values

[desert jasper]

Sometimes they're also just voicing out their frustration, venting it out
Sometimes they need to write their thoughts and maybe it'll come more clear to them after it

I know I'm guilty of having to sometimes write my thoughts on something that's puzzling me

[neon sigil]

I find a lot of professionals want to help people.
But they tend to stick to small circles because helping people is a two way street.

One that is often not returned by randoms.

[desert jasper]

Yeah, depending on the scope of the help needed

Sometimes you also just get drowned in questions and it also ends up feeling like the other person isn't really willing to put their own work in it

[placid yarrow]

I think that just applies in general. Like take this server for example, I feel people will generally help others out and answer questions for them. But if someone asks you to explain every mechanic ever the best answer is usually to just play the game right

[desert jasper]

That too

[placid yarrow]

And usually even if it might seem irrational from the outside there's pretty much always a reason someone seemingly isn't listening to something even if it's technically correct.

Like if I'm playing league and I keep dying to ganks because I don't ward. A rational person just trying to help out might give me the advice of warding more often and keeping better track of the map, but maybe I simply don't enjoy the game as much when I do that, even if it means I'll lose more and stay stuck in a lower rank I can either passively or actively choose to not follow the completely rational and correct advice because of my subjective views and opinions.

Which is why I wouldn't take it to heart when someone doesn't follow your good advice, it doesn't even necessarily mean they disagree with it, just that they don't want to do things that way.

[desert jasper]

I had a friend who complained that he was stuck in bronze when he was "a gold player"
Had literally no map awareness
I watched his games and pointed out what he could change
instead he complained more
I opted not to help him after that

[placid yarrow]

Yep

It's shocking how many people stuck in gold or less have pretty insane micro, but they're a low rank simply because they couldn't care less about the macro of the game

Which is totally fine. Even if it's rational to tell them to pay more attention and improve their macro they simply aren't playing the game to do macro

I bet you can find a good amount of people that if you could somehow just implant good macro into (not even super good) they'd go from silver to diamond

[desert jasper]

He also said that if you drop to bronze there's literally no way to get out
Meanwhile I had dropped there because I hadn't played ranked in a long time
Carried myself out from there as a support main
he said that I was just lucky

[placid yarrow]

Yeah I mean to be fair people just get jaded too

[desert jasper]

Ngl, it made me kind of salty

[placid yarrow]

It's hard to recognize why things happen the way they do especially when you can blame something other than yourself

That's honestly human nature to some extent

You can suppress and realize that the important thing is improving your own play but pretty much everyone gets salty about their teammates in the moment from time to time

There's a lot of factors that play into "Elo hell" tbh, but it's mostly the fact that once someone's been somewhere for so long even if they try to convince themselves otherwise they've already given up on leaving

"I've been playing like this for 5 years, I know what I'm doing, I don't need to change anything, I just gotta get better teammates" Is a deadly trap

[desert jasper]

I'm honestly glad I stopped playing it
It was affecting me negatively

[placid yarrow]

Honestly I think it affected me in a positive way. But I almost entirely attribute that to only playing normal games for the vast majority of my playtime