📚┃off-topic

[gilded elm]

Yeah, to be fair I'm all for trying to innovate and try new things with the genre, but at the end of the day I think most people are content and even happy for PoE2 to just be an actual sequel.

[junior oyster]

Yea I'm done with poe1

Never touching it again lol

[twilit mountain]

PoE1 still has a lot of things I enjoy so no quitting here

[gilded elm]

I do get this perspective that a lot of other people seem to have and yeah PoE1 is a really good ARPG and PoE2 has/had the chance to be something very different and people who like PoE1 can just keep playing that, but it's a dated game with dated graphics so I also understand people who just want something like PoE1 that's more modern.

[junior oyster]

Blight and the rift copy for me

Err the one with yellow stuff

Mines

[twilit mountain]

Delve

[junior oyster]

Yea that

Aside from that nothing in poe1 interests me

[gilded elm]

I want Blight so much in PoE2

But damn, performance gonna be bad

[junior oyster]

Same

Maybe but as long as they keep loot to a minimum it should be ok

Though I do wonder if they will introduce oils and what their usage will be

[twilit mountain]

See, PoE1 still has a style of building that PoE2 doesn't match in any manner, so PoE1 is still the better game to me

[junior oyster]

Aside from adding mods to rings for blight mechanics

[gilded elm]

Yeah they'll just be something different than what they do in PoE1

Like all the other league specific things in PoE2 currently

[junior oyster]

Oils now add one more mod to your skills

[warped wren]

the idea that we needed two games just for better graphics and for GGG devs to try at new shit that no sane person would enjoy and then inevitably fail is laughable to me I'll be honest

every single "different" decision they've made so far has just had me go like Ryan Reynolds from that "but why" meme

[gilded elm]

It's definitely a bit amusing since the original plan was for PoE2 to be built into PoE1 because it wasn't supposed to be such a huge leap from PoE1's core design lol

[warped wren]

if those different decisions had been informed by their decade of game dev and were a radical improvement, I'd be on board. But the moment I learned that they siloed the team and didn't take ANY lessons from PoE1 development I noped out

[gilded elm]

The entire reason PoE2 spun off at all was because GGG wanted it to be a very different thing, and now we're coming full circle back to GGG making PoE2 more and more like PoE1 because, well PoE1 does a lot of stuff right

I honestly don't mind that they tried and kinda failed.

I do mind that at some point it got so bad it was siphoning resources from PoE1 development, that was totally unfair.

[warped wren]

I do mind. Because this.

like if you wanna light money on fire there's surely better ways to do it

[abstract karma]

So we finally going to PoE 1 atlass slowly but sure 😄

[gilded elm]

I respect when devs are willing to take risks (to try new ideas) and lose money, tbh. The only part of PoE2's development that rubs me in the wrong way is the fact that at some point it had a stranglehold on PoE1's development.

[abstract karma]

There is lot changes but mostly if i dont do anything i will have now runned empty event maps.. So not so "good"

Fact that size was big, also fact that it had at least enough mobs.. They now reduce both

i dont wanna run more maps to have have same amout of drops or exp

[mental talon]

PoE 1 is still to me my favorite ARPG of all time and in my estimation the best ARPG of all time and nothing has knocked it from that perch. Im not quitting PoE 1 unless the servers are shut down.

[abstract karma]

they needed just reduce size not densinty of mobs

[twilit mountain]

Exactly.

Will I ever recommend PoE1 to someone? Absolutely not. It's a massive pain in the ass to learn. Is it still the best game in the genre? Without contest.

[mental talon]

I'll say I'm one of the few POE 1 is the gold standard who was and still is ok with POE 2 being it's own thing.

[junior oyster]

Objectively the best. Subjectively I like grim dawn a hell of a lot more.

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I mean, that's fine. I personally can't take GD, it feels like a slog to get through for me

[gilded elm]

I'm okay with PoE2 either way, but I think GGG has to face the inevitable reality of what most people consider is an ARPG, and how that is in direct conflict with their stated goals for PoE2.

[abstract karma]

their goals are already gone.. PoE 2 slowly turn to PoE 1 just waiting on rework of inifnite map generation on fixed areas or bioems or dimensions where you put just waystones and that will generate or choice random map/ara

[gilded elm]

They can't really do the thing they wanted to do when the accumulation of screen-clearing power is the goal of every ARPG player lol

And I've said it before, this is an expectation created by GGG's choice to call this game Path of Exile 2

[junior oyster]

Gd feels like a in-between of poe1 and poe2 lol

[warped wren]

they could if they chose to balance monsters and their movesets extremely differently. They just don't. PoE2 mobs are fundamentally no different from PoE1, so there's no "meaningful combat".

[junior oyster]

At least poe2 campaign

[abstract karma]

well yes that endgame of endgames tho..

Problem in PoE is that it has too much S.. to merge to one enjoyment..
that means If you dont have hell bulllet mode, your get rekt..

If they would just decrease diff and density in some cases, you could have combo based combat system which they wished for at start

[mental talon]

Better than me, I tried it for like 25 minutes, uninstalled and refunded

[junior oyster]

I have over 1k hours in grim dawn

1.6k in poe1 but half of that was afk

[gilded elm]

It's hard, at least for me, to conceptualize how meaningful combat could be designed in a game that is essentially horde-based

[junior oyster]

Only arpg with more hours was d3. 2k hours on wizard

D3 is the most fun arpg for me for one week

[twilit mountain]

As you can see I have tried many times to enjoy it

[gilded elm]

I've of the opinion that No Rest for the Wicked doesn't really fall into the "ARPG" category as we understand it. And I think what GGG wanted to accomplish is closer to what NRFTW did

[warped wren]

have you played horde shooters. Completely different genre but that's what they do (the good ones). GGG had the idea of it, with giving mobs different moves and players different situational skills, but they failed at giving players the breathing room and the tools to actually USE said skills as intended

[junior oyster]

Just bring in alliance and you'll be fine. ||I know nothing about wow||

[mental talon]

Better than me, I played for like 20-30 mins and was like "This shit is ass" and refunded lmao

I fell for the bait once, I learned my lesson.

[abstract karma]

of they wanted approach just slower pace at start and get to decent speed in endgame
BUT
forgot on mobs and bosses scales and modefiers on another side..

They just put in another and another updates more scaling up for players to be equal of these mobs..

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I mean the lack of "breathing room" seems more of a design influence from their desire to have methodical Souls-like combat where every hit is painful.

So perhaps the idea of it being "Souls-like" in regards to how much breathing room you have to navigate combat before you just die is in opposition to the idea of the horde-based gameplay.

[junior oyster]

And I hate it

[gilded elm]

I do think you make a good point though, and that "meaningful combat" is not the same thing as "Souls-like"

[junior oyster]

Only pinnacle bosses should be able to oneshot through bs mechanics not some random trash bosd

[twilit mountain]

Hey could be worse. Could be the people taking the bait of playing a paid Diablo 2 mod

[junior oyster]

D2r?

[twilit mountain]

Nope

A literal Diablo 2 mod

That is paid

[mental talon]

Miss me with that. I loved D2, back in the day. I havent played D2 since like 2010/11 or w.e.

[gilded elm]

Sounds illegal, unless Blizzard is the seller lol

I assume this mod includes D2 assets, but maybe not

[twilit mountain]

It is, but the seller is smart and doesn't have it listed online, you have to join their Discord and pay them directly

[gilded elm]

lmao

[junior oyster]

Damn

[junior oyster]

Day before 😂

Or w/e it was called

I know it's not a mod

But dunno how people thought that game was legit

[tawny sand]

i thought palworld was a scam game for the longest time before my friends were playing it at launch

like the premise seemed so ridiculous to me

[junior oyster]

Same

[tawny sand]

crimson desert as well, it seems like too much game to be real but who knows

[junior oyster]

That's why for most games I wait for release

[gilded elm]

Palworld is a tale of the opposite of a scam game. The underdog fighting the injustice of terrible companies like Nintendo :(

[junior oyster]

Sonic crossworlds was an exception to that rule

Preordered it to play on the 22nd

[tawny sand]

man i got to c rank in crossworlds and i'm doing terribly now

[junior oyster]

I'm only interested in single player mode

Local coop might be ok

[tawny sand]

still fun, but i'm like "how did people get to legend so fast" the game is so chaotic lol

[junior oyster]

Pvp not my thing

[twilit mountain]

Palworld may not be a scam but it is pretty shite.

[gilded elm]

I thought it was fun, but I can see how a lot of people might dislike it yeah.

[junior oyster]

Yea I loved palworld

[tawny sand]

i bought it, didn't play it much

[twilit mountain]

How tf that game pulled over 1mil concurrent is beyond me, it was just worse Ark

[tawny sand]

ark is bad tho

[twilit mountain]

Exactly

[gilded elm]

I liked it enough to play almost 200 hours. Not too many hours, but enough to feel like it was well worth it

[tawny sand]

lol

[junior oyster]

Same lol

[gilded elm]

The game has definitely gotten a bit worse in many regards since its launch though, with the Nintendo situation. They've had to remove a few things that really added charm to the game.

[junior oyster]

My only gripe is I want to play on the steamdeck but it like many games just eats my battery

[gilded elm]

Yep, there's performance mods and such for improving that situation on the Steam Deck for Palword, but it'll probably always be a hog

[junior oyster]

Yea

I can't even play poe2 on sd without major lag in slightly modded maps lol

I know it's not supported though

[gilded elm]

I don't even try at all with PoE2, that's a "just boot up Moonlight and stream PoE2 from PC to Steam Deck" situation for me lol

Which... actually, my Steam Deck is basically just a PC-to-TV game streaming device at this point haha

Seen a handful of Reddit posts in the SteamDeck subreddit too where people say the same thing

[junior oyster]

I only use it at work on my lunch break

I don't have lunch so I just play for about an hour

Usually monster train 2 or sts2

Wait that's not out yet

[gilded elm]

You really want STS2 haha

Already fantasizing about playing it

[junior oyster]

Yep more interested than gta6 even

And it got delayed till next year

[twilit mountain]

Am I strange for not being interested in GTA6?

[gilded elm]

I liked GTA5, but I just don't see the mass appeal of it.

It was a good story, but I'm not into the online portion of it.

That said, yeah I also am not hyped for GTA6

I'm sure it will be a very pretty, fun story-based open world RPG set in some modern American city (in Florida, I guess?) but dunno how it has such a wide appeal.

But I'm also a weirdo who hasn't given games like Red Dead Redemption (1 or 2) a fair shot because they just didn't appeal to me either, and those are also apparently a big deal lol

[twilit mountain]

RDR2 is probably one of the best story driven games we've ever gotten. It's also REALLY long

[gilded elm]

Yeah, so I hear. It just didn't ramp up fast enough to hold my attention

People always seem to mention RDR2 as being a profound game when it comes to its story-telling. I wish I got far enough where I was hooked.

[twilit mountain]

I really don't blame you for not being able to. I would consider it as prohibitive with how long it takes to really get your teeth into it

[gilded elm]

I don't even really blame the writers for this "slow start" considering how much praise the game gets from people I know who I respect for their taste in games. I get that I'm the outlier here and it likely boils down to something about the way I engage with the game, probably my ADHD tbh.

There's been many cases where I might have played a game at some point, didn't like it, and in a second or third attempt much later (even years) I end up being obsessed with it.

So I do plan to try and give it another shot eventually.

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain I miss her 🙁

https://x.com/bexsayswords/status/1970966575101681881

[twilit mountain]

We all do

[gilded elm]

lol

[twilit mountain]

Nah, no apology form

[placid yarrow]

Oh snap https://youtu.be/50ykp-2-_iw?si=4GmoA2N5P6kO_tWv

[warped wren]

Apology for what, downvoting and negatively reviewing the game till they finally get it into their heads that their original vision is garbage?

[gilded elm]

Yeah obviously the vision has since changed, but still got a chuckle out of the meme and folks being happy. I think more than anything, this is actually the opposite, a way of those people showing that they "forgive" Jonathan

[twilit mountain]

I do have one criticism of the new tablet system. I do not like having to run a 0 revive map to use them.

Please tell me this is an in-house character, that would be so funny

[gilded elm]

lmao

[twilit mountain]

Aight. Time to get my ass beat.

[warped wren]

conceptually I get it, risk vs reward, but death is WAY too punishing in PoE2

losing an entire $*!)#ing map for dying is insane

[junior stirrup]

I look forward to seeing how my builds fare - all glass, no cannon.

[twilit mountain]

Surprising absolutely no one I am terrible at Silksong

[tawny sand]

i need to finish skong, just a bunch of other stuff came out and though I loved HK i'm not the biggest into it

2xko, Sonic, TXR25, etc. also happened around the same time

also want to play silent hill f

it looks good

[twilit mountain]

I actually did not enjoy HK, but it's entirely subjective reasoning. It felt very, very stiff and while I know that goes away at some point I'm not good at these games and didn't see myself going through the time of playing something I didn't enjoy until it reached a point I did enjoy, if that makes sense

[tawny sand]

ah yeah that's fair tbh

i felt the same way about it being stiff at first

[blissful token]

Owh? All maps have boss and the objective is no longer killing all rares in 0.3.1?

[tawny sand]

i actually started HK a few times before i ended up finally doing a full playthrough

[twilit mountain]

Skong is feeling a lot better to me right from the start, which is a good sign

[lofty wren]

Yeah changes look good. Mainly because they're making the game closer and closer to poe1 lol.

Atp they should've just updated poe1 with modern graphics and called it a day

[tawny sand]

weren't they going to do exactly that, like that's what poe2 was originally

just an update to poe1?

[twilit mountain]

Yup. It was originally going to be PoE1 4.0

[lofty wren]

Ye

[twilit mountain]

And it was going to add WASD, revamp gearing and the gem and skill system, add a new campaign and expand endgame etc, and then they said "nah lol let's just not"

[lofty wren]

They have completely gone away from the "vision" and turned the game into poe 1.5 so it feels like a waste to have 2 separate games imo

[fierce moth]

Oh? Endgame update come in such a quick time?

[blissful token]

Tablet and tower changes huh

[fierce moth]

just get up... Slept 5h

[blissful token]

• Alchemy Orbs can now be used on magic items. This will upgrade the magic item into a rare with 4 new random modifiers.

So we will almost always be carrying tablet in our inventory? Glad i have a titan chest (extra inventory space pepehappy)

Augury

Oo the Atlas Boss passives apply to all map since they all map will have boss. A few of the nodes only apply to Powerful Boss

[fierce moth]

Wait wait wait wait wait!?

We can fight bosses without special searching?! Wait wait wait wait

IS THAT real?!

I never imagine GGG will consider this step

Oh that's a few pretty juicy changes. I hope I can find a citadel soon after this patch

Well my complain for endgame will left this one

[blissful token]

Deias and the others say this is something from PoE1 if i am not wrong? I didnt play PoE1 far enough to know

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. Every map in PoE1 has a boss, it was extremely weird to most of us that it was different in 2

[blissful token]

Yo... ground patches coverage in the map been lowered to at least 66%

Fork those chilled ground

[tawny sand]

just play pathfinder 🙂

[blissful token]

I already had some of the reduced slow potency nodes in my passive tree, making temporal chains and chilled ground only lower 10% of my speed

[blissful token]

Noh.. am a warrior

[twilit mountain]

:)

[junior stirrup]

I might have to get to maps now 😄

On the other hand, the Factory must grow.

[blissful token]

I hope the "plethora" of issues fixes next week include the fps drops especially for those green things

[lofty wren]

I play lightning warp so stuff like chilled ground doesn't mean much to me tbh, I just let arc kill everything and teleport around

[blissful token]

Poor warrior me getting arrowed to the knee and prone to environmental hazards

[lofty wren]

if I played warrior I would probably do some weapon set nonsense with attack speed scaling a movement skill (tempest flurry or the fire skill) since titan gets extra value out of small passives

[fierce moth]

🤯 They're so cool... But bows are expensive

This character just need to immune to poison/stun/bleeding charm

Oh wait. Still need 3 charms to bonus

Lich can ignore bleeding and poison but will affect by slow/freeze

Chaos have a debuff is enemies always bleeding and poison 🤔

?! I don't need regal orbs anymore

[lofty wren]

Yeah I love that change

[fierce moth]

0.3.1 will quite juicy. I can't wait...

[lofty wren]

I pretty much was ready to quit because the endgame was feeling awful so... this timing is perfect

[fierce moth]

I want to quit too because of xp penalty and damn towers

[lofty wren]

my character is immortal but towers feel trash. needing to waste so much time on hunting down and setting up a triple tower overlap gets boring and old fast. so happy for the changes.

now towers are just for vision basically

and ngl with the money I spend on quant tablets it rarely feels like I make much after I'm done with my triple overlap

[blissful token]

I wanna know if the alchemy orb also have the effect of greater/perfect regal and exalted

Else, its better to just use the greater for crafting no?

[junior stirrup]

Note that the text reads like a full mod reroll; so it's more like turning it rare and then chaos:ing on four mods.

I thought it was like a regal+exalts first time I read it.

[blissful token]

Actually does using greater orbs even have any effect for waystone?

[twilit mountain]

I believe it does but not enough to matter

[blissful token]

I guess that patch note make sense then cuz it mentions they buff alchemy orb for map (no mention of crafting)

[twilit mountain]

Take white or blue waystone -> hit it with alch -> click the "reroll all waystone modifiers for [thing]" omen -> slap a chaos orb on it -> desecrate
Map is done, go to town

[mental talon]

I'll be ready once 0.4 rolls around but for now it's Breath of the Wild until 3.27. (I am enjoying this game a bunch and I'm happy 😄 )

[acoustic jungle]

Me praying that either PoE 2 or the next expansion for LE adds some actually meaningful content so there's a reason for you to even build things

https://tenor.com/view/pray-crying-black-guy-pleading-plead-gif-15911108386383402751

[fierce moth]

wolcen studio hiring an environment artist. Ok time to spam my voxel art through I know I will 100% failed to apply.

Just for letting them to know me.

Emmmm? Wolcen use bambooHR to hire people too. hhhh

Done, let's see how are they reject an application.

(I typed my name wrongly because I did it too fast so Wang is here lol)

Oh. Only successful candicates will receive reply? Well, no idea. But I hope I get a reply at least.

[fierce moth]

Alright, reference is ready, colours are ready, paper is ready, background music is playing, I have no idea how to sketch so let's just start to copy this picture on paper 🤔

Scale will not the same, so it's the biggest challenge.

(That's the temple in Titan quest 2)

[fierce moth]

Damn these mushroom sticks looks so delicious... I need 2, thanks

Just need some cumin and salt

[desert jasper]

Grilled mushrooms are pretty great

[surreal gazelle]

Off topic) After Korean Thxgiving Days end at early Oct, I will practice productive skills. Ive been thinking about either learning Unity/Python/Unreal or practicing drawing to host commissions. Which sounds feasible?
If I choose the latter, I wont follow anime styles. Will stick to late 90s' by Chris Avellone, Brian Fargo, Samwise Didier, Chris Metzen etc

[desert jasper]

First one I find

[surreal gazelle]

Is 90's dead? If I try to make money with commissions, should I stick to anime styles like Nikke/Blue Archive?

[fierce moth]

can you give a few example pictures for art style you mean? I never hear that

[surreal gazelle]

You mean Chris Metzen or gacha games?

[fierce moth]

I mean the art style you want on your drawings

[surreal gazelle]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Adam_Adamowicz?file=Art_of_Fallout_3_super_mutants_CA2.jpg

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Chris_Metzen?file=New_Gettysburg_SC1_Cncpt1.jpg

[lofty wren]

Not sure if the 90s style is dead but the modern anime style is very popular

[fierce moth]

They remind me of this artwork...From 4x14, a work created for fan art competition https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3808679/page/13

But GGG just don't think this one is amazing enough. I saved that on my file. I love that

[blissful token]

man its so spread out....

[surreal gazelle]

I still hope 90's styles arent dead. IF they are too crispy to attract brats, I will instead draw like Gravity falls at least

[fierce moth]

Depend on which art style this company want. They will not hire you if your art style don't match with their projects (games)

[surreal gazelle]

If only companies outside Korea could hire me so that I can also leave here...

[fierce moth]

The same case I'm in, but I'm in China instead

[surreal gazelle]

At least Chinese devs arent like Korean ones like NC/Nexon. I kind of admire Yostar

[fierce moth]

I'm curious about do most of Korean devs develop mobile games only

[surreal gazelle]

Google titles like Lineage, Mabinogi, Geosang, Dungeon Fighters, Cyphers. Cringe af

[fierce moth]

I never want to work for a mobile game, but China is the biggest market of mobile games, 99.9% game companies require you playing mobile games

[surreal gazelle]

And they never want 90s Murican art styles, nor do they want Gravity Falls' one

I wish there were a game company in Portugal. I want to buy its Golden Visa

[fierce moth]

Well Chinese companies want paper girls, sci-fi cities, Chinese traditional art styles only. But I want to stay in style of path of exile 2/diablo 4/last epoch/titan quest 2

[surreal gazelle]

What do you think about getting a job there. There are a few European countries which sell GV. PT/GR/Turkey/Spain but since Im a trans lady I find PT attractive

And having a Portuguese citizenship may allow me to get a job in a better country such as Netherlands/Sweden. Way more IT friendly

Europeans ne1?

Dutch govt wont give me its citizenship straightforwardly, so I must buy Portuguese GV first. Imagine developing a title with a protagonist based on Francisco de Almeida

[blissful token]

cleared second citadel

[sage flame]

would love some more halls of torment stuff I'll be honest

[blissful token]

didnt know it can drop 2 fragments

[surreal gazelle]

More Fallout Tactics' or Starcraft1's styles....90s forever

[sage flame]

planescape also had great art style although the game itself was a bit eh

[surreal gazelle]

Tactics' demon looking power armour, too iconic

[fierce moth]

Sorry, have to say I like this work more... 😱

[fierce moth]

Update:
As I expected, this is a failed try.

Very curious about how pro artists doesn't mess up their works when they're have no idea what are they doing

[fierce moth]

🥴 I guess I just don't enjoy architectures in this style after quick checked a few tutorials... But it match with nature landscapes so much. Architectures painting require so hard on accuracy but acrylic is a quite casual and soft form, so I think they're conflicted.

That's why acrylic landscape painting always amazing

Not so many details I can come true on the surface of architectures in this style... Soft, casual and chaos is a disaster for this type of project so... I'd better to just learn landscapes 🥴

[blissful token]

hmm i dont really enjoy doing expedition

[desert jasper]

They can be rather rough

[twilit mountain]

Just be like me and do big boom Exped

[desert jasper]

All fun and games until there's something that gives them immunity to your dmg type and you didn't notice it

[twilit mountain]

I'm fine as long as it doesn't hit immune to chaos, and I always check it

[blissful token]

it is actually the planting and routing of bombs that waste me alot of time

expedition logbook that is

also, do i need to wait all bombs to explode to apply all the modifiers to everything?

[desert jasper]

the modifiers only apply to monsters after that node
i'm quite sure

[blissful token]

ahh feck, i undo too much and missed a runic chest spot

[fierce moth]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/26378056
@hazy token I think it's a good chance to show your skills if you played poe 2

[blissful token]

ehh? what does that mean?

i cant do anything with this?

[desert jasper]

Skill issue, clearly
I've no idea what it is.

[fierce moth]

emmmm yes. I can do nothing on that too

[junior oyster]

One of the nodes that add corruption

[blissful token]

so many question marks on expedition logbook

[junior oyster]

Coalescent corruption

I think the name showing is a bug but you get those coalescent corruption mobs after that node opens up

When you kill packs of enemies

Similar to maps

[blissful token]

i like my hp visual bug

[desert jasper]

Nah that's just how your hp is supposed to look

[blissful token]

i am half dead

[desert jasper]

Completely normal

[junior oyster]

You playing run escape?

[blissful token]

What's that

[junior oyster]

Runescape

When you get hit and lose life in that game part of your hp bar becomes red

My cold is making it hard for me to find the motivation to play lol

[blissful token]

i see

thats alot of breaches

[desert jasper]

I'm jealous

[blissful token]

thats like ~13 breaches

at this rate, my warrior's leg is gonna break

stampeding

[junior oyster]

T16?

[blissful token]

15 corrupted

[junior oyster]

No deli?

[blissful token]

the waystone no but the map itself yes

[junior oyster]

I dunno I tend to not do deli ngl

Just feels rippy as heck

[neon sigil]

I love that. Also I drew again

redid the sword suggestion I made for hero siege.
Much better in this style, I' suck at pixel art lol.

[blissful token]

i am still doing okay but i feel like my pc lose a few days worth of lifespan everytime i come across the abyssal pits

[fierce moth]

Flame looks unfinished.
The blade is too new.
The handle is too thin.
Top is too wide and bottom is too hallow.

Nevermind them if you just draw that to have fun

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGqZKUzVB8
The promotion of this company looks quite...No idea how to say.

No one will reject a team with this friendly level for sure. Chill, discuss, think, explore, hype, and enjoy.
But I just can't enjoy this art style in a game...

[ebon meadow]

Handle is still proportional to the length of blade it's fine it's a heavy scymitara ,u grip the end of handle with back of Ur palm and slash down

That is a bad ass blade for close combat

The guard is that big to balance

[fierce moth]

🤔 I guess forged in fire will give him so much inspiration if he interested in designing weapons

Contents are pretty professional

We're amateur only so he have the access to ignore us

https://www.beffio.com/the-medium-1
lol hhhhhhhh I just discover a secret.
Art assets which appeared in the medium are produced by this studio...

[abstract karma]

hmm idk price i could use it myself but i would need explicity remove that mana 😄

[junior oyster]

Pretty sweet ring

[abstract karma]

yea 2 chaos and 9 exa was crafting price.. + vendor with T1 life

[desert jasper]

I'll buy that for 1 exalt

[abstract karma]

saw on market similar but with one attack modifier for 1 div 🤔

Welp i need life anyway

worse is that if i wont suffer from crafting i can't progress >.> my next items are on level of either divines or annuls

[fierce moth]

I know I want to play a game with this level of environment art since this trailer is started...

Speechless for them, I just want to immerse in a world like that and never quit. God damn. Vlad will 100% into that I'm sure.
🙏 Respect.

The question is can I afford a 3a game like that if there's one here :(

It's the price of this asset pack 👀

I will say very fair through I'm not the rich who can afford that. It deserve the price

[fierce moth]

Very interesting indeed. It inspire me to explore more on cathedrals without doubt

Tons of works on finding references and figured out which patterns are excellent in this pack. Checking out concept art this studio have posted

[fervent hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Qlow1fzHLJ8?si=hO2mKdFlejheMySv

[gilded elm]

That's cool, Displate managed to get a PoE license https://displate.com/licensed/path-of-exile

[twilit mountain]

Oh sick

Might pick one up sometime

Roomie's got a Dishonored one

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I need to buy nee magnets

I want to get some of my favorite classical paintings too eventually

[twilit mountain]

Omw to purchase the original copy of Starry Night /s

[surreal gazelle]

European anyone? Are there indie studios in Portugal? I will buy Portuguese Golden Visa

[sand wigeon]

If you somehow managed that, I would marry you

[surreal gazelle]

What do you folks think about Eternal Return the Korean MOBA? Cringest title Ive ever seen

[twilit mountain]

When it had a player base it was actually pretty alright. Unfortunately they made very stupid choices over and over and over and it's now very, very dead

[surreal gazelle]

Korean devs love to make cringey titles. Google cyphers/mabinogi/dungeon fighters/geosang etc

[twilit mountain]

I couldn't care less about the title of the game if the content is solid

[surreal gazelle]

Content is also very lacklustre

just google them or play them if available

Blue Archive is the only Korean title (Not sure, Yostar the Chinese company also is involved) that attracts global users sadly

[twilit mountain]

I feel like you missed the part where I made obvious implications that I played Eternal Return

[fierce moth]

back on this topic, I suppose learn game engine is more important because much more jobs available if you understand how are they work

They can cut the art team, but they must keep the code team

Programmers (people who write the software) always can get the most money

[twilit mountain]

Nope. They're usually very underpaid actually.

[tawny sand]

djmax is a korean game and it's pretty good

[surreal gazelle]

Is it true? I hear that American animations have died since Gravity Falls' success, along with their distinctive styles

[twilit mountain]

....No, it is distinctly not true in the slightest.

[surreal gazelle]

Chances are some clients still want American art styles, if I host commissions

[fierce moth]

@blissful token Not sure XO sauce available in your place, but I find it's another choice for matching with noodles. I just tried XO pasta (brunch), I like the umami and salty flavour.

[surreal gazelle]

Perhaps I can follow French cartoon styles. I will settle in Portugal anyway and French/Belgian cartoons are still artistic

[surreal gazelle]

Had Thailand ran Golden Visa Programs I couldve settled there. But NO Asian countries do

[maiden widget]

management gets the most money

[fierce moth]

👀 management... Indeed. CEO is the top 1 management role

[surreal gazelle]

Which country's suited for trans; Thailand or Portugal?

[blissful token]

It is available commercially but i havent really tried it

[surreal gazelle]

Trans/Cis female players anyone?

[blissful token]

whew snatched this for 3ex

i just woke up

been using 25% movement speed for the longest time

[surreal gazelle]

Damnit action games aint for trans people

Should I quit LE and go play Nintendo/Level5 games?

[maiden widget]

If they're more fun for you why not

[surreal gazelle]

They are more trans friendly from what Ive seen. Main characters are looking asexual especially

[fierce moth]

So cool, poe 2 fan art competition taught me how to use imgur comprehensively hhhh

Because I can't read.

I flip the whole web and clicked every options to test why I can't upload pictures instead of just... Read the instruction again hhhhh...

"ARPG players can't read"

[surreal gazelle]

I'd become a Nintendo's forever pet if it released PC ver of Splatoon

[fierce moth]

Make a joke by myself successfully

[maiden widget]

Never tried Splatoon but looks fun

[surreal gazelle]

There are few cute looking action games sadly

asexual looking action games, more specifically

[sand wigeon]

The Dragon Prince is hugely popular.

[surreal gazelle]

Bet its better than Kpop demonhunters. Because Koreans actually listen to folk songs, rather than Kpops

Western people cant get Korean folksong artists like Lim Yeong Woong

[desert jasper]

It's not like kpop just suddenly came out and was instantly popular outside of Korea with having no koreans listening to it.

You might not listen to it
You might not know a lot of people who listen to it.
But it is infact still popular in Korea

[surreal gazelle]

Do western listeners even slightly relate to Korean folks songs sung by Lim Yeong Woong etc?

They always have cheap childish lyrics

[sand wigeon]

KPop Demon Hunters is critically acclaimed

[desert jasper]

Never heard of Lim Yeong Woong
Don't care either

[sand wigeon]

Well of course it’s not folk music

It’s called Kpop

aka pop

The genre pop

Korean pop

[surreal gazelle]

I dont think Korean ballads and Trots deserve a title pop?

Just look at lyrics, cringe festa

[sand wigeon]

KPop Demon Hunters does in fact use music from the genre pop.

[desert jasper]

Just because you find something cringe it doesn't mean it's not that genre.

[surreal gazelle]

There's a Russian band named Lyube. They've sung songs which sound very Russian and some consider their music as Russian Chanson. But I doubt Trots can be Korean Chansons

[sand wigeon]

Trot is literally a subgenre of kpop

[surreal gazelle]

What I want to say is, being a Korean shames me

There are countries with much stronger soft powers

[sand wigeon]

I don’t think you should feel ashamed for your nationality because other countries have more power lol

[surreal gazelle]

And Korea is very hostile to trans people like me

Two major parties never care about queer rights nor do ordinary people

[sand wigeon]

That sounds very difficult

[desert jasper]

Let's not go into politics. at all

[sand wigeon]

Queer rights are not politics

But I am unsure how this connects to Kpop demon hunters

[desert jasper]

When Alfonsa starts it with that two major parties don't care about queer people
it's getting dangerously close to politics

[sand wigeon]

That’s fair

Like, I don’t like pop, k-pop nor KPop Demon Hunters

But given it’s critical and audience acclaim

I think it’s safe to say that it’s pretty good

[surreal gazelle]

Like, I want to move from here. I am thinking about Thailand or Portugal

[sand wigeon]

That’s nice

Anyway

I’ve been trying to get better at Rebel Inc

That game is difficult though

[desert jasper]

Also I know people who listen to kpop but don't understand korean either anyway
so it's probably safe to say that the lyrics don't matter

[surreal gazelle]

Where'd be better to me; Thailand or Portugal?

[desert jasper]

Thailand probably.

[sand wigeon]

Those both would not be my pick so I can’t weigh in here

[desert jasper]

However, I don't think a random discord server would be the right place to ask that kind of question.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah lol

[blissful token]

Not sure about Portugal, but Thailand have rather acceptable view of trans

[sage flame]

So I nolifed silksong for 8 hours yesterday

My brain is a pile of goo

[sand wigeon]

Enjoying it?

It’s been funny to watch the media catch up on YT and stuff since I 100% it in about four days

[sage flame]

+points for miraaaaa, -points for no Shaa is the current verdict

[blissful token]

Here i was wondering what is no-li-fied means, is that a word? Until i read it slowly

[sage flame]

😭

It's when you use exsanguinus irl

[sand wigeon]

How long have you played so far?

[sage flame]

Till 6am ish this morning, lol. I'm past ||lace||

But obviously bonking every pixel for hidden rooms

[sand wigeon]

||First lace or second lace?||

[sage flame]

First, I'm intentionally not speedrunning

Once in a lifetime game

Wanna take it slow

[sand wigeon]

Take it at your own pace

[sage flame]

Also on a call while playing with a friend so there's a lot of banter

[fervent hazel]

hello , i was wondering if i can run this game on a GTX 760 so i thought i might ask here ^^

[sand wigeon]

I took it as slow as I felt I could, so it took me about 37 hours to 100%

[sage flame]

I was grinding NKG on HK while waiting for my friend to be off work to play

So I could use the more casual pace

[desert jasper]

Tbh I got kinda annoyed with Silksong
everything dealing 2 dmg, feels like every 2nd flying enemy just waits to parry you
Or well I got annoyed at the fans that reply with "git gud" "filtered" any time you mention something that could be seen as negative about the game

[fervent hazel]

they focused on making a hard game instead of a fun one

[sand wigeon]

Silksong isn’t that hard

And difficulty can be fun for lots of people anyway

[sage flame]

Yeah I'm really enjoying the less forgiving fights personally

[sand wigeon]

People forget that Silksong is very much a sequel

[sage flame]

It's a pallet cleanser from all the gear grind

[sand wigeon]

If you haven’t played the prequel, the easier game, then yeah it’ll suck

[desert jasper]

I think Hollow Knight introduced new things at a better pace
and they also claimed that Silksong is the same difficulty as Hollow Knight was
But I do disagree with that

[sand wigeon]

It’s an evolution of a game’s mechanics

[sage flame]

HK isn't necessarily easier currently, because of the postgame "dlcs"

[fervent hazel]

i mean i had no issues since i finished P5 on HK but most of the negative reviews i read were about difficulty

[sand wigeon]

Silksong needs to introduce things at a faster pace because it’s the sequel

[sage flame]

But silksong will get harder when content gets added

[fervent hazel]

it's mostly just a reskin of the previous game anyway , they spent 6 years jerking and 1 year making it

[sand wigeon]

Uh

[sage flame]

If anything I did find the earlier bosses so far easier than my first experience with HK, but that's only because my muscle memory of the game is fresh

[sand wigeon]

Okay I’m not having this conversation with you

[fervent hazel]

the experience was nowhere near the original

[desert jasper]

Anyway, this is not me saying the game sucks.
It's very good. I just get frustrated easily and nothing feels good in the first place so I don't get that joy of success about things

[sage flame]

And so far Hornet's midair heal feels op, even if you get dealt 2 masks of damage regularly

But this is personal experience

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I thought Silksong was too easy

I was really disappointed in the late game by how trivial things were

And the lack of difficult platforming was sad

[sage flame]

I'll get there and see for myself but yeah

[fervent hazel]

the final boss was disappointing , nowhere near radiance

[sage flame]

And am I crazy for liking diagonal pogo 😭

[fervent hazel]

nah , it's fire

[sand wigeon]

||Void Lace? I thought Void Lace was a much better fight than Radiance||

[fervent hazel]

hell no , i still remember how i felt seeing radiance coming from far way , was like naaaah i'm good

[sage flame]

I don't think I'll be able to play in the weekdays so my progress will slow down Monday onwards

But that's fine

[sand wigeon]

Mmkay

[sage flame]

Game isn't going anywhere

[blissful token]

Radiance is the boss where you have to keep going up?

[fervent hazel]

yes

the one you fight after the hollow knight

[sage flame]

One small criticism I have for early game silksong is that there's almost complete absence of needle customization compared to similar HK progress and I'm a very big fan of brawling strategies

[blissful token]

I remember it was pretty manageable for me at least. Only thing that i dont personally liked was the white room platforming with lotsa gear

[sand wigeon]

I think you just don’t understand the game, frankly.

[fervent hazel]

path of pain

[blissful token]

That sounds familiar, i think thats the one

[sand wigeon]

Radiance was meant to be intimidating. It was meant to feel imposing, something to be rid of against all odds. It was the enemy, through and through, an eye-for-an-eye vengeful god set upon destroying what was once their land.

||Void Lace isn’t that. They’re not even an enemy. It’s a somber attempt to taking something away from Hornet, something she cares about. It’s a redemption for Grand Mother Silk, who chooses to help the child she never loved on her deathbed, allowing Hornet to save her kid just this once. And to do that, Hornet must fight, fight until she has nothing left. And once it’s over, Hornet is left with the realization that she succeeded — and that her sibling isn’t dead. And that now she has a companion, someone to both teach about this world and occupy her time, something realer than being the silent guardian of a dead or dying civilization.||

[fervent hazel]

i finished both lol

[sand wigeon]

Doesn’t mean you understand it

They’re very different fights, meant to invoke very different feelings

[fervent hazel]

i'll put my hopes on the dlc's , i want the closest thing to NKG

[sand wigeon]

We already had NKG in Silksong

Trobbio

Trobbio’s moveset is literally based on Grimm

[fervent hazel]

i meant something as tuff as NKG

[sand wigeon]

Well, yes, the difficulty will come later

I’m excited about that too

[fervent hazel]

i remember beating NKG after 24h

[sand wigeon]

It took you… Twenty-four hours to beat?

[fervent hazel]

yup

i mean not non-stop

[sand wigeon]

I see

[fervent hazel]

you should try blasphemous tho , the vibes are so goddamn good

[blissful token]

The boss that surprised me was soul master, was that his name? Was a fun fight though

[fervent hazel]

yess , the second phase was very unexpected

[sage flame]

I wanna try blasphemous eventually

But I've been aching for a game with an actual world

[fervent hazel]

open world !

[sage flame]

Not necessarily that "open", just a game with substance really

[fervent hazel]

the "persona" series is very interesting , i tried a bit of 5 royal and it's fire

[sage flame]

I highly recommend smt 5

Hard upgrade over any other game

(and I've played most of the series)

[fervent hazel]

u finished p5r !

[sage flame]

I've finished all of the personas

[fervent hazel]

i played around an hour or so only , the night before you start school , stopped there because i was very busy at the time

[sage flame]

Oh I didn't play metaphor

[fervent hazel]

i tried that one , looks so good

[sage flame]

Real life sim isn't for everyone and that imo makes smt 5 more accessible

It's more a traditional jrpg

[desert jasper]

I ragequit at a boss in persona 5
I will eventually go back to it but grind more and put more effort to the social links

[fervent hazel]

i really liked it tho , i'll get back to it as soon as i can

is the story that interesting !

[sand wigeon]

I did. It was bad.

I’ve heard Blasphemous 2 is better, though

[sage flame]

The story is a little too "jrpg" but it has some very interesting ideas, and a few mature subjects

[fervent hazel]

haven't play 2 yet , will defintely get it on sale

[fervent hazel]

i liked the train cutscene

[blissful token]

I played blasphemous 2 when my internet was down for a few days. Fun, but i never went back to it after internet came back lol

The heavy lantern-hammer thingy was fun

[sand wigeon]

I just hated how esoteric Blasphemous 1 is in its writing

[fervent hazel]

btw is last epoch demanding ? i have a GTX 760 (equivalant of a 1050)

[sand wigeon]

Even if you’re deeply familiar with Catholic mythology, it doesn’t really help

Items have essentially no indication of what they do, it’s all one big, poorly designed scavenger hunt

[fervent hazel]

same here , i just liked the vibes of playing in a world you have no idea about

[fierce moth]

lol skating is fun... Unfortunately I never can play that in real life 🙃 I like speed and passion stuff, but poor eyesight mean I can't escape my glasses
I think that's the sense of building a city in game... To learn a hobby I never will touch in real.
EA's skate. looks interesting.

[sand wigeon]

That’s fair, I’ve just had that experience be better elsewhere

[fierce moth]

But the weakness is it will expose I'm bad at sporting hhhhh

[blissful token]

Its ok, you cant be bad at swimming

You either "drink some water" or maintain afloat

[fierce moth]

😅 Why grinding on a balustrade test so hard on accuracy...Damn

I enjoy swimming indeed. But it's tricky to find a special swimming goggles for eyesight

[sand wigeon]

The lenses can’t be prescription because they need to be multi-layered and pressure resistant

[fierce moth]

... Ok. Fall over is normal.

[blissful token]

Aww yis! The shatter GS won

Such a good concept art

[fierce moth]

😅 😂 Alright, I think if I do that in real life, I can't move before I learn how to skate because... Maybe I will be injured too seriously.

That's what make me laughing

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 I even fly into the wall but wall bounce me out

[fierce moth]

I become a soup chicken because I just want to drink milk tea porridge.

The sudden rain wet everywhere.

[blissful token]

oo a raw drop

[ebon meadow]

My 1050ti was handling it perfectly u should be fine ,just don't run it in ultra lul

[blissful token]

owh first time drop

wait wot

its worth 4-8 div for veiled?

[abstract karma]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/8jg270cc
Hmm how to continue and not need tones of divines 🤔

[blissful token]

holyyyyyyyy

this citadel jamanra have like ~20m hp?

first phase itself 9mil hp

[junior oyster]

Depends on map mods and boss atlas tree

[blissful token]

cleared all 3 citadels

oh yea i think one of the mod is like monster have 41% more hp

8/10 for boss passive

so thats... +5 boss difficulty?

so uhh... burning monolith

what do i need to know

[mental talon]

Arbiter of Ash, unlimited tries on Normal Difficulty (IIRC)

[blissful token]

oh he cant die in 1 phase

[junior oyster]

Sadly nope

[abstract karma]

vision number 596 - challenging bosses

[blissful token]

so uhh.. the game is basically done? other than doing higher difficulty?

and this

[abstract karma]

basically yes if you hit all normal bosses then you can max go uber and game is completed

[fierce moth]

I understand @sand wigeon more on why you just want to write for yourself now...

That's quite hard to control myself away from the status of not be lazy or care on projects your client have asked enough. I can't like everything through they gave me money...

It's quite frustrating.

[blissful token]

wokay.. but i dont think my gear is ready for uber

and i dont think i can improve them in casual means anymore.. I prolly need like tenths of div for every single piece of gear

[abstract karma]

welcome in mine situation tho i havent reach 90 lvl nor hit all bosses but doubt i could take any uber either

[junior oyster]

I have yet to defeat ash

And don't even feel like trying deli

[blissful token]

i didn't get to fight expedition boss yet cuz the mechanic itself is painfully slow

and whr are all the logbooks sire

[abstract karma]

either buy shards or just make one big bomb in exp altas

[blissful token]

i really dislike doing expeditions

[fierce moth]

“Just live for yourself” is truly tricky to execute in life

I'll say Hallow understand that earlier than me, it's cool

[gilded elm]

Everyone who has worked for a company or clients understands this intuitively.

Work is not fun for 99% of people.

[junior oyster]

Ooh first time seeing this drop lol

Not even in poe1

[blissful token]

same.. i got it a few days ago

[gilded elm]

It's not happening right now... but any networking gurus know why sometimes my WAN connection downgrades to 100mbps? It just kinda happens randomly and I notice it when stuff like Twitch and YouTube starts to buffer lol

[fierce moth]

huh... It drive my into mad, 100%. Don't need more than 1 day.

This world is quite odd... I don't know how people force themselves to do something unfun for years and years but still want to live.

[gilded elm]

Personal life + money

Separation of work and personal lives

[junior oyster]

Interesting

I guess it's ok

[fierce moth]

that's insane if someone still wants to play a game everyday through he/she work on this game everyday.

This type of person are too rare and valuable...
I don't know what I like to do at all except thinking about how to improve my art skills and find inspirations for my artworks. I always feel it's guilty if I do something entertainment all day but I don't want to act if you ask me just act on building my career because no one will tell you what things are correct. All of them are about exploring.

No idea what I want to express... But it's my thinking for this suggestion.

Quite tired... I should go to bed earlier today

[junior oyster]

First 2x level 20 skill gems, then an ancient jaw bone and now omen of light

0% rarity xD

[desert jasper]

hax

[junior oyster]

It would have been so much more if I had 100%+

I feel bad

[lofty wren]

grats... I rarely get stuff like that with 120% rarity lol

[junior oyster]

I always hear conflicting stories lol

I'm told higher rarity means divs drop all the time

[lofty wren]

I guess my luck in poe2 is terrible because my luck in poe1 is insane

I mean in theory it should but quant is arguably more important

I also hate interacting with towers tho

[junior oyster]

Well that is going soon

[lofty wren]

ye

I'm gonna be playing again when the update drops

[junior oyster]

Damn ancient jawbone is 1k ex

I was thinking maybe 200-300ex

[twilit mountain]

Rarity is complicated. The biggest change is in the first 60% of it, past that you deal with diminishing returns. It's also not good at all if you don't have good quant maps and speed.

[lofty wren]

imo poe2 is still missing a good currency sink like poe1 has with rolling t17 maps. exalts lose their value insanely fast.

[junior oyster]

I guess I sell them rather than keep

I could upgrade some gear instead

[lofty wren]

I was on yesterday and a div was like 400 exalts?

insane

[junior oyster]

Was going to use hands of wisdom unique gloves but looks like I might not be having enough int atm anyway

So maybe I should just kinda get gear with more res/def

[twilit mountain]

Part of the exalt inflation issue is that exalts are inherently less useful than chaos orbs in PoE1

[lofty wren]

yeah very true

[twilit mountain]

Yes you can still rip through hundreds upon hundreds of exalts in a day, but it doesn't matter when they have a limited amount of uses per item still

[lofty wren]

I honestly don't even care to pick up exalts after the first week of a poe2 league

[junior oyster]

I still do lol

[twilit mountain]

HOWA nerf was pretty brutal, I honestly don't think it deserved to have its efficacy cut in half

[junior oyster]

I wish autopickup existed but yea I always do

[junior oyster]

But apparently for LA deadeye they are still BiS

[twilit mountain]

That's mainly an LA problem

[junior oyster]

Either way I need better gloves

[lofty wren]

GGG is terrified of stat stacking being good I guess

[mental talon]

Rare Gloves are better than HOWA I dont see a world HOWA is better

[junior oyster]

I have these but getting the right stats is gunna be pain

[twilit mountain]

Gamba!

[junior oyster]

Need light damage which I can get from omens

And then phys damn

And preferably another res like chaos

Oh wait nvm

I was thinking of catalysts lol

[lofty wren]

honestly the only upgrade I have left for my blood mage warp character is a +5 lightning spells wand so I might start a new character :x

[junior oyster]

So I could instead focus on getting defensive on my gloves instead of trying for offence

[gilded elm]

Correct, most people who work in game development are not playing games in their free time.

Programming and artwork in the game development industry is an often mentally stressful, all-consuming job (like many other jobs). Playing games is the last thing these people want to do after finishing their day at work.

People who work at companies like EHG or GGG put on a professional mask when they talk to outsiders like us. For the most part, their jobs are not fun or fulfilling, they are just a means to earn an income and make a living so they can spend their free time doing things they actually enjoy.

[junior oyster]

This is my build atm btw https://pobb.in/77OLvDivudvy

If I didn't try to stack int I might have had better resists or something

[mental talon]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[fierce moth]

Anyways, the most hard thing always is give a reason for "why I should hire you" to the boss...

Play their game like a pro will not help this thing because too many players can play the game better but it's bad if zero relevant game experience too

[sand wigeon]

We should go to a casino in a few years

You can play Balatro ✨ in real life ✨

[sage flame]

If you brought balatro's powercreep irl

You'd be Elon

[gilded elm]

It will not help much, but your reason is wrong. It's not because other players can play better than you, it's because playing a game is irrelevant to the job.

Playing a game and designing/developing a game are completely different things. You could be the best player, but that doesn't make you a good programmer or a good artist.

Understanding the company's product (in this case, "the game") is only a small bonus, it has no meaningful impact on your qualifications for a job.

[twilit mountain]

I can already go to them and I won't.

[fierce moth]

Make sense, I never can have a chance to get a job as an artist to develop a game if I know nothing about game engine because all assets must manage in engine at last.

It mean all of them is a dream only

[gilded elm]

And you can't just be an artist in game development. Also, it's hard to just be a 2D artist. You want experience in 3D art, which also means learning tools like Blender. Sometimes you might even be expected to learn how to animate your 3D models.

The job might also require that you understand how to import those 3D assets into engines like Unity or Unreal Engine.

[fierce moth]

Yes 99% concept art have relevant to 3d assets in blender

[twilit mountain]

And then there's the psychos at GGG who make sweeping changes to the balance and proceed to top HCSSF leaderboards without ascending just to spite the community

[gilded elm]

lmao who's doing this? Is it Mark?

[twilit mountain]

There's been a few of them now, the most infamous was during 3.15 (or whatever patch it was that massively changed defenses) iirc

[gilded elm]

That's really cool though. It's good to see that level of enthusiasm for the work they're doing, it means those people are at least getting fulfilment from their jobs which is a good thing if you can.

I mean, you say infamous, but that sounds kinda cool. I don't know the specifics of it all though.

[sand wigeon]

Damn…

[mental talon]

Hoowoo casually just being an absolute menace vibes.

Still one of my favorite Hoowoo clips to date.

https://youtu.be/srAYYs83KZk?si=QT_2oFNh5-T0I5HB

[fierce moth]

Well I see why I never see someone who active in game community have hired by a game studio.

They're different cycles and will not have interactions usually.

Programmers maybe have a bit exception because gameplay = codes but game art are impossible.

I realized I made a big mistake on about me of LinkedIn through this conversation. But it's fine... I don't think my page will be valuable enough for these game companies within 2 years

No experience is no experience. It can't be hided.

Maybe I can use a different way to introduce myself 😏

[sand wigeon]

They do in fact interact constantly

As an artist, you need to understand what does and doesn’t work in a video game and it’s always dependent on the programming

[fierce moth]

Let's just be honest.

[sand wigeon]

Kirra

Why would you be honest

Your employers do not want the best for you lol

And you shouldn’t be telling your employers about your struggles with depression

[warped wren]

Nobody's gonna hire you if you put that stuff public.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

And you can in fact speak English at the level of a native speaker, it just takes time and effort

And until you can speak English at a level similar to a native speaker, it’s not realistic to expect an English-forward studio to hire you, that level of communication issues can’t be had in a professional environment

[fierce moth]

Employers just want positive things.

But I don't think I can provide them so I must tell lies.
But tell these lies and hide these lies just too tiring.

On the other hand... People who can provide these positive things already be hired by a company or have been hired by a company.

They don't need to worry about this type of things.

[sand wigeon]

Capitalism does not service genuineness

Like, regardless of your political views or whatever, it’s just bad form to be talking about your personal struggles and issues on an application or interview

[twilit mountain]

If you're at work or doing something work related, mask everything 👍

[sand wigeon]

Pretty much.

[desert jasper]

God
I've seen some where the person applying goes on to talk about their medical history & their familys medical stuff

Had to send her a message that you shouldn't include those things in your job application

[sand wigeon]

Jesus

[desert jasper]

She hadn't realized how massive red flag that is

[mental talon]

Kirra I'm going to give you the best piece of advice I got when I was younger. In the business world there are no lies, only convenient untruths. You don't get a medal or rewarded for being honest. Being open and goes to is good for documentaries and autobiographies not for employment.

[gilded elm]

It's not inherently a bad thing, it just hints at them being very naive about the way the professional world works in most societies. Survival is ruthless and some people are slower to learn this than others.

The kind of people you are competing with to get the job you want are going to do and say whatever it takes to get that job. This is a competition, not a charity.

Employers themselves don't actually care what your own personal beliefs or struggles are, and they don't want to know. They only care about knowing what you bring to the table, what kind of value you contribute to business' success.

[mental talon]

For sure when it comes to a job it sounds harsh but like we all got problems. That's a fact of life, I'm not looking for your problems I'm looking for solutions and that's just the fact of the matter.

Sole reason I am looking for an employee is we have a deficiency or what have you, I need to know how you can help solve this deficiency not about your own personal ones.

[fierce moth]

They're cleared.
Based on suggestions of everyone here, the best way is... Keep it empty.

[sand wigeon]

Better than saying things that ARE bad to say.

[abstract karma]

will miss this next update lol

[warped wren]

so many things

[lofty wren]

I won't miss it at all

[blissful token]

idk what to do with poe2 now after normal arbiter of ash. Do I wanna try going higher tier? What does it take to upgrade my gear to be uber-viable?

[twilit mountain]

Good questions I don't know the answers to!

[blissful token]

i supposed not playing meta class/build means i have to go with the mechanics but at what degree

kay i cleared cruel breach. The boss is still manageable, but i cant kill mobs fast enough to chase the edge of the expanding breach

i guess my current gear is at its' limit

[twilit mountain]

Tbf I don't either due to how GNade works, but it doesn't matter as long as you keep the timer above 30s or so

[abstract karma]

if you are clearing T15 without struggle more or less you should be ready to kill "x100 bosses"..

Then you need just long juicing methods and buy that gear for ubers

• nothing else waits in PoE 2

basically it same with all Arpgs tho ? You reach to point where only way to progress is tons of time of same content till you reach gear replacement
PoE 1 / 2, LE isnt exception

Either way you push your self to min/max and max lvl or you can make another build...

[sand wigeon]

Fun fact: there is no build that can clear literally every T15.

The thing about clearing T15’s consistently is that you only do the ones that don’t break your build.

In which case they’re not very hard.

Crazy, I know.

[abstract karma]

if you dont count reflection or you have reflection modifiers defences then i dont see any problem making build to clear all in easy..
Because so far we havent map modifiers which have immune vs chaos or physical neither even elemental properly..

Critical resistant is annoying but for most one hit clear build its not matter of criticals anyway

[blissful token]

I have been clearing T15 corrupted without looking at the mods so far. I guess I am in a comfy spot... but uhh.. to upgrade my gear, i have to buy those 2/3 rune slot gear pieces or jewels thats like 50 div etc

i dont think thats very fun at this point

[abstract karma]

bang - there is your answer , time for another build or diferent game till another update

dont you have this feeeling in LE or different ARPG ? Either your find endgame fun enough to kill ubers or you just dont finish it
There isnt any shortcut

[blissful token]

i havent been playing alot of arpgs honestly, I've played D2 back in the days when my household doesn't have internet. Then LE since 1.0 and PoE2.

Just that now i am at the plateau for both games. Clearing every content other than ubers or higher difficulty bosses

to grind the gear or just play another game

[abstract karma]

welp its more or less what arpgs mostly offers..

If you are not fun to try every build or multiple builds in one update or one arpg game

[blissful token]

yea, i am pretty much only playing 1 character every season. This time PoE2 is an achivement for me cuz I cant reach this level of power back in 0.1, skipped 0.2

[desert jasper]

Tbh the game is easier now than it was in 0.1

[blissful token]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[blissful token]

dahell something just slap me twice and i am ded in expedition logbook

[desert jasper]

Oh, sorry
That was me

[blissful token]

u slapped harder than anyboss i have fought

[vagrant topaz]

You havent fought my mom

[blissful token]

what do i do with them

[abstract karma]

rng craft

[blissful token]

i am kinda lazy with that cuz my luck is never good and they are taking up my stash spaces

wait wat

[abstract karma]

expedition craft is still underaverage in PoE 2.. its nothing close to poe 1

[blissful token]

oh i thought its the other way round for the exalt exchange :P

that thing is cheap

expedition as a whole is very meh to me

[junior oyster]

I only do exped after I level up lol

Some of those nodes can get quite scary

[blissful token]

i think i am done with poe2 🤔

[junior oyster]

Damn

[blissful token]

dont think i wanna chase gear to do ubers

[junior oyster]

Well tbf I'm close but not done

I have only beaten t2 king so far

[blissful token]

was a fun warrior journey

[junior oyster]

Oh warrior oof

[blissful token]

i think i can clear all t2 bosses but i am so lazy with expedition

[abstract karma]

so what will be next game ?

[blissful token]

the logbook thingy is so tedious

[junior oyster]

buy the fragments

[blissful token]

how do you get the calamity fragments?

[junior oyster]

Uber?

[blissful token]

the harder arbiter of ash thingy, yea

[junior oyster]

Aside from trade? No idea

[abstract karma]

Why not life

[blissful token]

Prolly finish off my ff7 rebirth then start clair obscur mebbe

[desert jasper]

Clair obscur is good

[abstract karma]

Probably will finish one of these games after mine goals Two not Heretic or Half-life 2
I'm getting diziness from these two

and LE is actually done, Dungeon siege is Masochist option because i made myself goal to clear it with one character (longest game evr)

[sudden anchor]

have you tried path of exile? its another good game

[abstract karma]

PoE is next to this image in folder as one of games which i have played or will once again

[maiden widget]

voting for sacred

[earnest gulch]

I think its a bit too soon to run a christmas event

[junior oyster]

GTA SA remaster vibes

[desert jasper]

Well
The stores here already have had christmas candy for over a month

[fierce moth]

🤔 It's interesting that their CM's twitter even quiet than mine...

But she is the employee of Kakao games, it's enough

[junior oyster]

Oh Sonic crossworlds has Japanese dub? Nice

[twilit mountain]

I'm just waiting for November 1st so all the Halloween candy stock goes on on clearance and I can scoop some up for practically nothin

[tawny sand]

what's your favorite candy?

[twilit mountain]

That is a wonderful question that I'm not certain I can answer. It depends on what I'm craving and how I'm feeling.

[jade jackal]

That's an odd way to spell Reeses peanut butter cups

[twilit mountain]

I mean, yeah, I love those. But I also really enjoy taffy, or Heath bars, or butterscotch, or Tony's chocolate bars, or Sweetarts, or Jolly Ranchers, you get the idea. I just really, really like sweets.

[tawny sand]

not a fan of heath bars

i like sour candies

[twilit mountain]

What kinda sour are we talking? (Mainly just curious, I have legitimately not found a candy, that isn't intentionally made to be gross, that I have disliked)

[tawny sand]

sour gummy worms are usually my go to

just classic

[twilit mountain]

I put some form of gummies into almost every grocery order because I really like the feeling of chewing on them

[sand wigeon]

My favorite candy is black licorice.

Extra salty.

[rugged marsh]

Love this game 🙂

[compact escarp]

2025 Game list:

• PoE2 (if you squint)
• Last Epoch 1.2 + 1.3
• Silksong
• Expedition 33
• Hades 2
• Civ 7
• MH Wilds
  And Avowed, Fable, Witcher 4 and Nightreign too for those who care.

what a year

[fierce moth]

I guess no one here will play games from blue brain games but maybe a few ones played the room

[fierce moth]

But hint system in point and click puzzle games in past versions of games from them is too weak so players can be stuck in game only so bad experience they have if this person just can't get the logic of devs.

Games are evoluting

[tawny sand]

i had to look up what blue brain was and then found out i own house of da vinci lol

[desert jasper]

Ah
only +2C this morning
how nice

[junior oyster]

Yep same

Although I'm just trying to get trophies

[fierce moth]

The house of Da Vinci (1-3) is the 1st game series I played and the 1st game I want to learn the background story

Never thought the dev team have said everything in 3 so I don't need to spend extra spirit

[fierce moth]

The only pity I have on the house of Da Vinci is I can't afford the full series on steam. I own all 3 on Google play only

The self-punishment I always do in a puzzle game is compare myself with another people on the playtime. Less playtime you need to solve these puzzles, better your logic and IQ you have.

I always failed on these invisible competitions and it caused me lose all interest at last, so I quit.

Back to this game type in 2025, I played them for myself this time, enjoy them better a lot.

[fierce moth]

Wait, Polish government release a guide for how to promote their games in Chinese market!?
It's too interesting 😂

https://www.egdf.eu/game-developers-guide-to-the-chinese-market/

File download link. Let me read what are they learnt

[green ice]

give me the loooooore 😩

[fierce moth]

Done, it's a detailed guide which I can imagine many potential improvements EHG can do indeed

But it's money consuming for international game companies to join in Chinese game exhibitions... Well. As same as it's impossible for me to fly to Tokyo/Seattle/Koln.

So it's always exciting to meet an international people in a game event

[fierce moth]

Talk about localization of this game type, Tencent made a good joke recently.

Free to play Poe 2 8h if you can get a code from a old player.

It means you must have a friend who willing to buy a code for you and you can play 8h only even you can fit that

Free to play Poe 2 3 days in English version before, as the contrast.

[desert jasper]

Wait, they have to buy the code?
not just get it for free?

[blissful token]

codes are not sent out to lucky existing player to invite friends?

[fierce moth]

Buy a code = buy ea access

You must pay again for ea access if you want to play Chinese version

🤔 I think I'm fine to stay in English version.

Oh, tq 2 release a new chapter tomorrow

[desert jasper]

Oh, cool
Wonder if it also has new class to play with 🤔
Also the new poe2 patch this week that changes some parts of the end game

[fierce moth]

Oh...good reminder... Collision between games here again...

[blissful token]

there is nothing to collide if you are done with poe2

[fierce moth]

I don't try to kill arbiter yet

[junior oyster]

Same but I'm starting to lose interest

[desert jasper]

Would this be worth anything 🤔

Apparently no, not really

[acoustic jungle]

"PoE2 (if you squint)" LMAO

[blissful token]

is silent hill f a soulsgame :v

i see stamina

[desert jasper]

My first fracturing orb hooray

[abstract karma]

huh you really paid 70€ / Bucks for racing game ?

No wonder we have bad games for same price if you buy every gerne with even to be honest it's racing game it has no content except a few areas (maybe they made clever generated racing maps idk..)

[abstract karma]

hmm how to make money from Horror game - put there collectibles like bunny sailor >.>

[tawny sand]

i personally love ruining video gaming, i also bought crossworlds

[junior oyster]

Same

Deluxe edition lol

[twilit mountain]

Ignore them. Extremely dumbass take on their end. As if Gran Turismo, Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Burnout, and more haven't been around for like 30 years or some shit.

[tawny sand]

man no lie i'd love a new non-open world burnout

i didn't really like paradise

[blissful token]

oof..

[tawny sand]

same, i'm looking forward to megaman and protoman personally

[mental talon]

You made me look it up and now I'm burdened with the fact that Burnout Paradise released in 2008 and that was 17 years ago. My bones are actually turning to dust, thanks dawg.

[tawny sand]

np!

but yeah i'm not a fan of the open world racers personally, Forza Horizon especially

horizon did get me to realize i really like rally tho

so i bought dirt rally and stuff after it

[twilit mountain]

I'll trade you my bones. Dust is better than whatever tf I got

[tawny sand]

i guess TXR is kind of open world with how it's set up tho, but you're just racing / travelling around a highway so

[mental talon]

Yeah idk after 2 deployments I'm not entirely sure you want this, it ain't worth trust.

[tawny sand]

also they're adding teemo to 2xko https://youtu.be/A8-Uw_sypMs?si=NDj6rHVmoy7POfqw

looks mad annoying, as to be expected i guess lmao

[blissful token]

Life Enjoyer in E33

[abstract karma]

If you find it normal price..

To be honest i'm not exterem its just very clear how gaming industry is in hell in pricing and quality..
Buying any racing game for such high AAA price is just weird
What is worse same tactic is used on Nintentdo all re-released games

[junior oyster]

It's not normal price but then when compared to MKworld the amount of content (now and future) more than makes up for the price of MKW

Or rather it is normal price but it is also justified price

[junior oyster]

I went into 200cc sonic mode and holy that is crazy fast lol

[twilit mountain]

Gah. Autumn sale is up and I have no money :(

[junior oyster]

I have nothing to buy

[twilit mountain]

Shit gets more expensive. Does it suck? Yes. Do I hate it? Very much so. Can I change it? Nope.

[twilit mountain]

There are many things I would love to buy.

[junior oyster]

Lol damn

Only this

[twilit mountain]

Anything that catches my eye and looks interesting gets sent to the wishlist. Not everything will be bought, but in general I like to watch things that look good.

[junior oyster]

I add and delete all the time

Had the new secret of mana game wishlisted but deleted it after some point

[tawny sand]

i bought surroundead cause it was 6 dollars, figured i'd like it

[abstract karma]

dang 85% on grim dawn

[fierce moth]

😔 🥴 It's come true after half of year, and it's accurately 6 months.

[desert jasper]

What came true?

[fierce moth]

Good days are ended once Ave and Olam ended their jobs, 2025/01/16

[desert jasper]

I could've sworn she was here still during the summer
time flies, i guess

[compact escarp]

because it's 6 Dec 2024 but I counted it for 2025

[fierce moth]

🤔 Ok I discovered a new way to cook wall textures tonight. Cool.

More shabby chic now

[strange delta]

Enjoy this hamster eating beef

[surreal gazelle]

Language learning folk anyone? I am learning Thai and its alphabets slightly drive me crazy

[strange delta]

New 4 Card Evo clash game mode is completely fine as you can see 💀 (they were running cycle Evo executioner they deserved it)

[junior stirrup]

Languages with unfamiliar scripts make it so much more fun to learn.

The best I've got when doing text rendering was that I could recognise when the shaping was broken, but that's it 😄

[surreal gazelle]

Ill do my best to learn Thai then. I want to move there

[junior stirrup]

Is your current language tonal or do you have to pick up that too?

[surreal gazelle]

Korean so no tonal. I just seek better trans rights

Thought about Japan but she only recognises 2 birth sexes and Japanese public crossplayers are deranged idiots

[surreal gazelle]

Im still told that a number of Japanese crossdressers try to sneak into female exclusive places, which are designed to protect cis women from them

[blissful token]

How difficult is Expert in E33?

[acoustic jungle]

Super hard. (I have no idea, just wanted to annoy you)

[gilded elm]

Dodging and parrying becomes mandatory, basically.

Expert is very fun if you want to feel the satisfaction of consistently landing parries (and by extension, counter attacks)

It'll require you to learn enemy moves so you can learn the timing to parry or dodge. In difficult fights, this could mean dying a lot until you eventually learn. In that way, it's reminiscent of a Souls-like.

[blissful token]

Whats the death penalty?

I remember reading something about dodging or parrying is not required in Expert sometime after release. Has that been changed?

[blissful token]

I like this

[gilded elm]

I don't think it's been changed. It would be unfortunate if it was nerfed, considering I think the difficulty was more than generous to players willing to learn.

There's no death penalty that I remember, in fact they have since made it easier to reattempt boss fights when you die, without having to run back to the boss.

[blissful token]

Hmm.. there are quite a number of discussions and videos about not needing to parry or dodge in Expert. I assume those people are running some specific build on survivability

[fierce moth]

someone made that lol (Made by Kellis#7406)

[blissful token]

Damn, now where is nub

nub should be in the art

That white shiny illusion on the letters are pretty good

[twilit mountain]

Skill issue probably

[blissful token]

I guess if u brute force upgrade health-related stuff, you can just tank everything? But idk, i am still in tutorial before heading to bed yesterday LUL

[twilit mountain]

I'm not even really joking
A lot of "this thing is impossible!!!!" takes in games are just the person behind it not practicing/being bad and unwilling to improve

[blissful token]

Ooo i look at it as limit-testing the Expert difficulty and its claim

You may be right

Just different perspective

Also EA is getting acquired at 55bil?

• The deal will take EA private - meaning all of its public shares will be purchased and it will no longer be traded on a stock exchange.

Huh?

So what happens to this meme moving forward?

[twilit mountain]

I just ran into the weirdest banned word in this server

[tawny sand]

i just found this resident evil inspired traditional roguelike. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005870/House_of_Necrosis/

[twilit mountain]

Apparently p*ssed is censored for... some reason?

[tawny sand]

comes out on the 6th

[blissful token]

That spencer mansion lol

[tawny sand]

right?

i love the old resident evils and i love traditional roguelikes

def picking it up

[blissful token]

Actually looks more like RPD than spencer mansion

What is this ff7 now?

[twilit mountain]

FF8 remake when?

[blissful token]

I think ff9 is in the work

Ff8 got the pc remake and thats it copium

[twilit mountain]

:(

[tawny sand]

i don't like ff8, i've tried beating it a few timees but meh

it's the only one i haven't beaten of the mainline series

[blissful token]

Its just a draw simulator

[tawny sand]

also has level scaling which i don't like

[blissful token]

At one point its pretty annoying when you overlevel and the mob you farm no longer drops the item you need cuz it moved to the next pool

[tawny sand]

would it be ragebait if i said tetra master is better than triple triad

[blissful token]

Oo i didnt play tetra master

Also i only relunctantly played triple triad to get lionheart in disc 1

Also for the boogie theme

[tawny sand]

lol

tetra master is kind of pretty bad tbh and it's confusing

it's the card game in 9

[junior oyster]

Never liked any ff game aside from 6

Besides I played the best ff game: chrono trigger

[blissful token]

EHG would like to have a talk with you

[fierce moth]

😮 Just know no law can work on projects on Kickstarter so... It's 100% take risk by myself.

It mean players only can admit it's their fault if the dev team took money away and do nothing for their goals.

On the other side, this behavior polluted the environment too, cause the trust is harder and harder to build.

[blissful token]

We have code vein 2 preorder 👀

[desert jasper]

I am right here

Actually slept for once

[vagrant topaz]

Noice

I like sleeping

[fierce moth]

what the hell... Skull and bones is on 90% sales!?

Oh wolcen is on 90% sale too. I can buy it now

[desert jasper]

Still barely any deep sleep though
apparently about 30minutes in 10hours

[fierce moth]

Sorry to hear Nub can't get a good sleep

[desert jasper]

Apparently it's pretty common in people with ADHD
Just don't get enough deep sleep

[blissful token]

Hmm silent hill f sells better than silent hill 2 remake

Am excited for kiwami 3

[sage flame]

You should try t edition

[desert jasper]

nice

[blissful token]

hax

[desert jasper]

Man
I kinda hate Tendril Sentries in poe2
they'll just shove their tentacles in ground and instakill me when they come under me
And sometimes can't even see it's coming

Died twice to that in the same map

[blissful token]

not sure whats that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8341AlwWg

dont remember if i seen them

[blissful token]

Woah E33 is pretty open with the word

wow the first combat i had is fun

its so satisfying to parry and stun

[fierce moth]

tq 2 night today :)

The update is released

[sand wigeon]

it’s just a swear lol

[blissful token]

i see 10% sale discount but i know nuthin about tq2

[twilit mountain]

You called?

[desert jasper]

Didn't know you had it too

[twilit mountain]

Unfortunately. Can't even take my meds right now because I need to lower my dosage for safety as a result of being off them too long

[sage flame]

Got to act 2 yesterday in silksong

Insane game

[desert jasper]

Yeah, I was off of the meds for a bit over an year because I couldn't really afford paying that much for them

[desert jasper]

You're going fast

[sage flame]

really? If anything I thought I was going slow because workdays limit me by a lot. That's great to know. ||I melted judge with wanderer+flea brew||

[desert jasper]

man I hated that boss

[fierce moth]

My choice: Max the dosage anytime

I don't care the risk personally

Lol the server have blocked my words. Alright.

Too negative

[twilit mountain]

I was a in a life threatening situation less than a week ago due to it so I'd rather not 👍

[fierce moth]

I want to experience a situation like that again tbh Pass out and enjoy the quiet is wonderful.

I can't afford long-term medicine unfortunately

But I always want to give a hug to people who have similar issues.

[strange delta]

Can anybody who owns a pc tell me what they think the best 4K monitor is? I want a high quality monitor, minimum 27inches

[twilit mountain]

I wish I could answer that. I'm too poor

[fierce moth]

I even have no idea how to connect monitor with the case because I never have a desktop pc

National day tomorrow, it mean another annoying family gathering. Cool

[fierce moth]

Nothing have changed on their earth mage. Alright I need to complete cha 1 with ice mage at first

Out of energy always is too annoying

[maiden widget]

I check rtings for monitors and TVs depends a bit on what you want and how well lit your room is between oled and miniled

[sand wigeon]

The truest answer is that you shouldn’t get a 4K monitor but you won’t listen to that

[strange delta]

How come?

[sand wigeon]

4K monitors are still decently far behind in compatibility vs capability

2K monitors have the best balance of price, visuals and performance for gaming and graphic design

[strange delta]

I see

[sand wigeon]

4K draws way too much performance for very little change in graphics

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In the end I got this one https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/gigabyte-mo27q28g should arrive in mid October

[sand wigeon]

That’s why 4K TV’s are fine, it’s just shows, you don’t worry about performance

[strange delta]

That looks nice!

[strange delta]

I don’t know much about them, so that’s why I asked haha

[sand wigeon]

But for monitors, especially with hames demanding higher and higher graphics cards, the fidelity is not worth the hit to everything else