📚┃off-topic

[gilded elm]

Still have no idea how crit works with poison in PoE2, since there's seemingly no clear documentation on it lol

[twilit mountain]

More hit damage -> higher poison damage

[gilded elm]

Yeah, but to my understanding, poison doesn't scale off of Crit Damage Multipliers, I think it's a fixed damage multiplier for crits?

[twilit mountain]

Nope. It works with it

I've done it

[gilded elm]

Since poison's base damage is supposedly calculated from the estimated hit damage, pre-mitigation.

[tawny sand]

the misoxshiru video you linked earlier shows crit applies to poison damage too

[gilded elm]

All of the Crit Multi?

Or just a fixed value

[twilit mountain]

All of it

[tawny sand]

Oh idk, it was a quick part. He accidentally critted in a part and then it did more damage so he had to respawn to do the test again

i haven't watched the whole video

[twilit mountain]

It was deadass more efficient for me to get crit multi to scale poison than it was to put Deadly Poison on

[gilded elm]

Okay that's good to know. So crit is effectively mandatory for scaling poison

[tawny sand]

it seems despair and wither work too

[gilded elm]

Yeah if you can get the chance high enough to beat Deadly Poison, I can see that for sure

[twilit mountain]

They do. Extremely well, mind you. They can give you like near double damage.

[tawny sand]

i thought it didn't for some reason cause of the "pre-mitigation" wording

[gilded elm]

Same

[twilit mountain]

If you're sitting here going "damn this is not well phrased and does not work how you think it should" ...yeah, I get it

[gilded elm]

For example, I don't think poison scaled from physical actually does more damage against an enemy with broken armour (from Armour Break).

Or if it does, it's not clear

[tawny sand]

yeah idk, there's the corrosion gem.

[gilded elm]

I think damage done to an enemy affected by Armour Break falls under the "Damage Taken" category of the wording used in the Poison wiki page.

This is the best I could find on Google lol

[twilit mountain]

Btw does anyone know if there's anything worthwhile for desecrating waystones?

[gilded elm]

No idea, but did you manage to get convinced to play a thorns build after all? lol

[tawny sand]

also i just realized, what's the point of the cultist bow line of weapons? the one that does chaos damage and phys damage, is there a chaos damage affix for bows? I've yet to see it

[gilded elm]

Been wondering the same. Don't know how you'd scale those bows. Phys just seems far superior.

[twilit mountain]

Yeeeeeah

[tawny sand]

yeah

[twilit mountain]

It's going well

[gilded elm]

I've seen streamers playing thorns, it actually looks fun

[tawny sand]

and the chaos damage passive are a far way away from the ranger part of the tree i think, i'd have to double check

[gilded elm]

Maybe you can roll a witch or sorc and use the cultist bows lul

[tawny sand]

i still think they need to make the passive tree smaller

[twilit mountain]

My gear is very funny looking

[gilded elm]

I think maybe the Cultist Bows went through a change or two since then, not sure. But they're still dead as far as I know

[twilit mountain]

I have an ilevel 15 spear on because literally all I care about is an essence mod and I want to keep my dex req low

[gilded elm]

lol, spear and shield titan?

[tawny sand]

yeah maybe

[twilit mountain]

Warbringer rather than Titan. Free armor break.

[gilded elm]

Ah

[gilded elm]

I was watching Quin, he was playing thorns with spear and shield and swapped from Warbringer to Titan. Not sure on the reasoning

[tawny sand]

oh neat you don't need the currency in your inventory when you buy asynchronous, it auto takes it from your stash

just found that out cause i forgot to grab the currency

[twilit mountain]

I... don't know. Maybe just for some more def via more armor from body?

[gilded elm]

Yeah could be, he's quite tanky and his damage is sufficient

[tawny sand]

did you see quin's death when he went to block silverfist?

[gilded elm]

Also he's an active block enjoyer

[tawny sand]

it's very funny

[gilded elm]

I did not, I just know it was a bug (as confirmed by GGG)

I'm gonna go watch that rip right now, actually

[tawny sand]

yeah it did seem like a bug

but still it's funny

[gilded elm]

https://www.twitch.tv/quin69/clip/DirtyAstuteBatteryTheThing-e14YHNsSLuU6uovh

[twilit mountain]

There's a few bosses that are bugged like that actually

[tawny sand]

path of bugs 2

[gilded elm]

GGG: You should be methodical, use active block against incoming attacks
Also GGG: Block doesn't work lmao

[tawny sand]

i remember that colossus boss in the desert cave being crazy buggy in .1, idk if it still is

[twilit mountain]

Path of Bugsile 2
Last Bugpoch
Bugablo 4

[gilded elm]

Classic

[twilit mountain]

I get to roll an alt for a casual campaign run with a new friend later

[gilded elm]

Are you in maps yet / been farming? Rolling an alt with alt gear is at least more enjoyable

[twilit mountain]

I am yeah, very low tiers though (shitass waystone system)

[tawny sand]

i'm only t3 i think, but i'm bad. you'll probably rocket past that before long lol

[gilded elm]

Still good enough to accumulate some decent stuff, at least.

I need to solve my survivability right now, pretty bad

Maybe I need to lean a bit into ES

[tawny sand]

i thought you were gonna try deflection

[gilded elm]

I am currently Eva + Deflect, it's not enough lmao

I need more evasion

[tawny sand]

oh lol

[gilded elm]

I need to know how much evasion + deflection gain I need to reach 80-90% deflect chance, that would be great

Damn, I need to know what monster accuracy rating is to effectively arrive at a good deflection rating estimate

[twilit mountain]

I should probably do something about this huh

[vagrant topaz]

You caved in , in the end

😏

[twilit mountain]

The thorns got me man...

[vagrant topaz]

tsssss

Enjoy triping in your feet

[twilit mountain]

It's fine, I live

[gilded elm]

Napkin math, but assuming monster accuracy of 2500 and deflection rating of 10,000, I'd have a 50% chance to deflect the hit.

This needs to be put in the context of evasion though, because the deflection check only happens if the chance to evade check fails, so in reality the chances that you either don't take any damage or deflect the damage can be very high.

And this also means Blind is extremely good for evasion/deflection based defenses, I guess.

If you can reliably apply it

[gilded elm]

Did servers shutdown for maintenance or something while I was playing the real game (PoB)?

There was a 5 to 10 minute rollback too

[gilded elm]

Why the heck is Deadly Poison II a recommend gem (in gemcutting UI) for Vine Arrow, which does Chaos Damage over Time and not Poison

[tawny sand]

small indie company

[gilded elm]

Yeah I don't get how Deadly Poison II could be useful for this lol

[twilit mountain]

The recommended gems thing is dogshit

And they know it

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I mean I get the intention. Showing everything can be overwhelming, but I dunno if the current "recommended" approach is the best

[tawny sand]

maybe deadly poison is supposed to increase the poison modifier when you shoot it so it does more non-ailment chaos damage

but that's the only thing i can think of

[gilded elm]

Yeah I doubt that, you'd want Deadly Poison on the skill that you're using to poison Vine Arrow for that

[tawny sand]

yeah idk

i wish there was a slow potency ii for it

then maybe i can have this slow, methodical, meaningful combat i keep hearing about

[gilded elm]

Our build progression is making us faster and stronger, but we're supposed to keep playing methodically (re: handicap ourselves) lul

[tawny sand]

i think they'll probably give up on the meaningful combat eventually

like around act 3 you start blasting for most people i think, it's only really act 1 that's slow

unless you just have bad rng

which is also an issue

but i just did a breach into an abyssal rift and there was nothing meaningful about it

[gilded elm]

Yeah I think the idea of "meaningful combat" is just too much in opposition to the build expectations that people have for an ARPG

[tawny sand]

heck it's in too much opposition for how mobs are designed currently

[gilded elm]

If they wanted meaningful combat ARPG, they should've just made something like No Rest for the Wicked which limits the way in which you can progress your builds.

[tawny sand]

don't get me wrong, i'm enjoying blasting in .3 and stuff but that just leaves me wondering what is supposed to be the way to play if this isn't it

[gilded elm]

There needs to be shackles to power in order to give weight to combat and make it feel more meaningful, and ARPG players just wanna blast.

[tawny sand]

cause all i've done is move from is mostly use 2 buttons and sometimes a 3rd

cause anything else is too slow for the mobs

[gilded elm]

Yeah, Poisonburst, Toxic Growth, Plague Bearer for me. I'll maybe throw in Vine Arrow and Toxic Domain for something tough.

[tawny sand]

yeah basically

but then you get like a bunch of nonsense on the screen, like all the green effects from abyssal, mix in another mechanic like ritual or breach, and i just don't get what the game is supposed to be if this isn't what's being said in interviews

like combos for instance

[gilded elm]

Be methodical, parry every single monster attack

[tawny sand]

lol

either way, hopefully by full release poe2 has figured out what it wants to be

i'm having fun in .3 though but i'm just waiting for something to be nerfed i feel like

who knows though

[gilded elm]

.3 is great IMO, game still has a long way to go and yeah needs to work out its identity crisis. I'd be happy to see PoE2 close the gap a bit more with PoE1, rather than being more "meaningful combat"

That it's more difficult as a baseline is good though IMO

[tawny sand]

or like the act 4 bosses, Tavakai is egregious for this, like there's parts where i'm like "i have no idea what this fight wants me to do i'm just clencing my buttcheeks"

like the green circle, but then he also lays the red spikes in the safe area

like okay game

[gilded elm]

This is (IMO) because of Jonathan refusing to embrace "artificial" telegraphs for visual clarity. Like clearly drawn indicators

[tawny sand]

maybe so

[gilded elm]

It can be difficult to recognize when something is a "tell" for an attack

[tawny sand]

true yeah, and it's hard to tell where things are safe to stand a lot of the times

[gilded elm]

Yeah, they need to consolidate all of that kind of stuff so it's uniform across the game, that way we only need to learn to recognize a few things instead of having to know the specific visual details of every damn move

[tawny sand]

god, my friend is colorblind. Idk if he'll play, but i couldn't imagine all the green on green in abyssal for him

[gilded elm]

Honestly just take a page out of Lost Ark's book on visual clarity in encounters lol

Screw Lost Ark, but the game's combat and visual clarity is well designed

[jade jackal]

throws computer to trash again

[blissful token]

I am still using magic mace at lv 50 🥲

[gilded elm]

Why not regal+exalt? Been getting tons of them throughout campaign

[blissful token]

I dont

I only got like 20 exalts, exchanged some for the skill gem quality thing

Only to find out it starts dropping some time later in act 4 😂

[gilded elm]

damn lol

[tawny sand]

i went a long time without any regals also

[gilded elm]

Regals are extra abundant for me because I disenchanted rares that didn't sell for a lot of gold

[tawny sand]

the problem with that is if you don't get any rares to disenchat

i had more orbs of alchemy than i had regals for a long time

[gilded elm]

That'd be extra unlucky lul, I played with the basic "show everything" NeverSink filter and found I was getting quite a lot starting from act 2

[tawny sand]

idk, i played on the neversink regular filter through campaign

[gilded elm]

Yeah, that's the one I used as well

[twilit mountain]

Me who doesn't have a filter on because I really don't want to make one again (my PoE1 filter is an uber strict with smth like 480 changes)

[gilded elm]

That's a lot of customization

[twilit mountain]

Yeeeeeeeah

[gilded elm]

Though for campaign, I'd say filter is not really too useful any way

Unless you really struggle to remember the different base types

Oh, something that might've been commonly ignored are strongboxes. They seem kinda worth doing now

Even worth spending currency on a lot of the times

It paid off often enough, that I made an effort to have transmutes and augs in my inventory at all times for strongboxes.

[acoustic jungle]

Yea, PoE2's combat needs like Jesus Christ to save it, 'cause it's so dog, it's just unbearable. Getting swarmed 24/7 4fun is gonna kill like 95% of people's will to get past level 10. I just started a Monk, thinking it'll be better, and you're just getting swarmed while being animation-locked 24/7 while being stunned 24/7.

It'll draw in great numbers at first, then die off due to how frustrating it is.

Not sure why they thought this type of movement is what makes combat "hard", but oh well 🤷‍♀️

[tawny sand]

doesn't last epoch have an evade now

[gilded elm]

If you're going for Hollow Palm monk, I think the optimal leveling build is with a bow first lol

[acoustic jungle]

Wait, maybe you misread my comment. That's not what I was talking about at all. Or do you mean to say this problem goes away if I play a different build?

Which, ok, would solve my issue, except it doesn't solve THE issue.

[gilded elm]

Nah, just stating that the current situation is bad enough that it's better to just slap a bow on a monk for leveling instead of leveling with the thing you actually want

[acoustic jungle]

Right, ok. Also, I know we differ in opinions but I just cannot, CANNOT see anyone <25 enjoying this. You're just constantly taking breaks between your animations.

It's like...can I PRESS MY GODDAMN BUTTONS GGG LIKE HOLY.

And then it doesn't even make it good to wait - the mobs' response is better than any other game, yes, but not enough. It just doesn't feel great baseline.

[gilded elm]

I'm probably only having fun becuase I'm playing one of the classes and weapon types that are actually good all around. If I had to roll another character, I'd probably do something like thorns warrior which is another well performing build this league. The balance in general of all the classes is whack at the moment, it seems. Everything just underperforms.

[acoustic jungle]

Yes. So, while this is my experience, I'm just trying to extrapolate to most people - who'll be new, who won't know what/where to play. It's just infuriating, like, I do get very tilted at games, but this legit makes me wanna hit something.

And while other people won't be nowhere near as frustrated (not extrapolating that), they'll be very frustrated still - the game's combat is BS.

[gilded elm]

PoE2 balance isn't in a good state for people who just want to play XYZ class fantasy. There's a high likelihood you make the "wrong choice" (this here is one of the big issues, there's too many wrong choices).

[tawny sand]

isn't mathil running hollow palm

[gilded elm]

Hollow Palm is fine when it's up and running, it seems. But for act 1 and 2 leveling, I heard it's really bad

[tawny sand]

ah ok

[gilded elm]

So people are leveling with bows until then

[tawny sand]

i don't think he used a bow, i've been watching him here and there, but i don't remember tbh

he did say it's rough starting out tho

also have you seen pohx's thing with the massive triceratops?

it's pretty funny

[gilded elm]

Nope, wat lol

[tawny sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXuL9a6qJGw

[acoustic jungle]

They have to set you up with a proper, non-goddamn-annoying-as-hell build to get you started. They must. Their current combat iteration is just awful, and unless you're stomping and/or know what to do exactly, it's just infuriating.

It also made me realize how lucky I was to find some really good loot early on my other character.

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1n8te6y/was_supposed_to_grind_maps_tonight_but_ended_up/
Are the architecture assets and the map device in your hideout free or do I need to buy the supporter pack to get them?

[fierce moth]

Do I need to find the hided location in buried shrine to unlock shrine hideout?

[blissful token]

We have some free decorations and map device as well in Edit

[blissful token]

I think i have that. You just need to complete the shrine hideout map in atlas map

[fierce moth]

That's damn

[blissful token]

Kirra in endgame already

[fierce moth]

I have no luck to meet one in 0.1, now my lich is too weak for abyssals even in a white t1 waystone

It just too random to find a hideout in atlas unfortunately, I dislike that

Why we can't unlock that by traveling in buried shrine This extra difficulty is necessary?????

But anyways, I have confirmed no assets in game are what I need so I can imagine something

[blissful token]

I dont have the limestone hideout that u have

So thats fair? 😂

I am just using the shoreline hideout now, it is already pre-decorated and looks decent

You want the shrine hideout for your artwork?

[warped wren]

Best music is the canal hideout imo

[blissful token]

I shall check it out when i reach endgame

[gilded elm]

Can check it before endgame too I think

[fierce moth]

@gilded elm I want to visit your hideout and say hi :)

[gilded elm]

Oh hello lol. I was installing and checking out a price checker tool

[fierce moth]

I guess the hideout you're using is come from ||act 5|| 🤔

[gilded elm]

It's this one, but I don't know what the architecture is from specifically https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Beacon_of_Salvation_Hideout

[fierce moth]

I like this throne xd.

[gilded elm]

lol nice

[fierce moth]

Based on the artbook only, not 100% sure but they looks quite similar

[gilded elm]

Ah, yeah you could be right. I should look at the art book sometime

As a guess, I think maybe Act 5 is ||Oriath|| and that's why the architecture looks like that.

[fierce moth]

you guessing is right

[blissful token]

Oh yea, but i am captivated by act 4 now

[gilded elm]

How far into the act are you?

[blissful token]

The first 5 islands on the left excluding one that looks like a fort at the middle left and its higher level

[gilded elm]

Ah, well then. I guess you're saving (IMO) the best one for later. That is, the first island on the right side I think.

Kirra hates it though.

But it is the best one :)

[blissful token]

The prison?

[gilded elm]

Yep

[blissful token]

I will start it when i get home

Then get back to the the fort thingy

I check the island area level

[gilded elm]

Yeah, same. I mostly went in order of area level

The whole act is just well done for the most part though, everything there is worth experiencing

(That is, some of it is optional)

[blissful token]

I like it so far

The one in the cave is pretty huge

[junior oyster]

You are almost tempting me to play poe2... Almost

[blissful token]

Dont remember if it is the || mermaid || one

[gilded elm]

Gave me Merveil vibes lol

[blissful token]

From poe1? Dont know much about that

[gilded elm]

Yeah, there's caverns in act 1 that are similar

[desert jasper]

Ah, good ol' act 1 of poe1
Remember how it used to have like
7 more zones in it? or something like that

[blissful token]

So far so good except for || twin magma ||. That shiet killed my warrior at least 6 times

[gilded elm]

Oh yeah, them. Same as the first boss in ||Sanctum trials||, I think?

I mean ||Sekhema||

[blissful token]

Yes but || double || and the || arena is way smaller ||

I find out that you can || single them out and deal with them 1 by 1 || but the || arena is just small and not much room to move while some mods have homing lightning dudes/chaos orbs trying to explode on me ||

And i am a warrior, the wind up is kek

[gilded elm]

The ||"falling rocks" animations|| are unnecessarily annoying to recognize relative to your position.

Needs better telegraphing IMO

[gilded elm]

IMO if you're on the fence about it, there's more likelihood you regret playing than not. But also, strongly depends what class/build too.

[junior oyster]

Nah I'm good

I'll go back to other games if I get bored of le

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I think PoE2 would be a bad time if you already are in a mindset of not wanting to play because of trauma lol. Game's improved a lot, but still has a lot of the same fundamental issues that would just reinforce past bad experiences.

[sand wigeon]

Silksong is good

[junior oyster]

Nah I don't have trauma. It's just levelling is worse than le

[gilded elm]

In current PoE2, your class/build choices will significantly affect your campaign and leveling experience. That part is still bad, worse in some ways actually because of the really bad balance right now.

[junior oyster]

Yea I don't wanna go through all that nonsense xd

I made a ranger and realised I hate playing the game

[gilded elm]

lul at least you're fortunate enough to realize it early on

[junior oyster]

Also having to do sanctum later for ascension blegh

[gilded elm]

Yup, and then Ultimatum for your second set of points

[junior oyster]

I don't mind ultimatum

But I really really hate sanctum

[gilded elm]

Haha, other way around for me

[junior oyster]

I was mainly farming ultimatum in the first beta season

Cuz maps were so dumb

[gilded elm]

It also tilted me because when I was running Ultimatums for fragments, I was constantly getting the same one over and over (of the 3 different ones you need). To this day, I still have not gotten any of the other 2 fragments.

This was basically me

[warped wren]

new essences are kinda sick

[junior oyster]

Yea the expensive one was kinda hard to get

[junior stirrup]

The inscribeds now say which fragment they produce.

This since 0.2.1.

[desert jasper]

Okay
Time to start act4

[gilded elm]

That's awesome. I haven't played since 0.1 basically, quit 0.2 early on.

Hopefully I get to the level and gear to try again in 0.3

[desert jasper]

Wonderful
Someone else interacting with Alva & Rog at the start of act4 skipped the dialogue for me

[blissful token]

I was surprised the npc dialogue started between alva and doryani and i see "help her" into the camp or something when i am playing a beefy male warrior

Turns out someone else started the dialogue

Also have fun with act 4 nub, i hope you will have a better fight against || twin magma || than me

[desert jasper]

Also first abyssal depths of the character in act4
on the awrrior I saw 3 in act 2 already

Managed to clear it even
without issues

[blissful token]

Yea, but i died in all of them. After i fixed my passives in act 4, i manage to clear

The twin gravefly with both having the slow bubble was cancer though

[desert jasper]

Yeah, they're super rough with melee
The abyssal depths

[blissful token]

Melee fun

[desert jasper]

||The twins || were surprisingly easy

But I can see how they could be an issue in melee

[toxic jasper]

Look mom, i'm naga with 4 hands!

[gilded elm]

GGG please, what is this (lack of) visual clarity?

[desert jasper]

Alright
Visited ||hinekora||
map still showing questionmark with + sign on it on the island 🤔

[blissful token]

Ahh the tall grass. Only seen them in act 1 Ogham Farmlands. Havent touch the endgame

[fierce moth]

Spent 2h+ on designing the pattern then 1h+ on colours and materials, the light isn't right so they looks different completely

[fierce moth]

Yes this map let me almost give up to play interlude acts

It's damn that it exist in endgame as one of maps too The worst map GGG designed

[blissful token]

Interlude bad?

[fierce moth]

Not bad, just this map is bad

[hot crown]

Bruh... 💀

[gilded elm]

Abyssal pog

[desert jasper]

nice

[acoustic jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM4-ZAAVIOU

Look at this slop. Most of these comments are about how the game is unnecessarily annoying. Specifically the bosses. But IT'S MEANINGFUL! How do you become like this? Worse yet, make a video about how those people are "clowns" 😖

So far, there's nothing hard in PoE2, and there wasn't in 0.2 either (played to Act 2). It's just goddamn annoying and infuriating. Replaying the same mechanic for literally 7 minutes because your build is dogpoopy is just bad.

[tawny sand]

yo nice

[acoustic jungle]

Like 152.2% sure that if you ask all these people, they know PoE2's different. Shit's just annoying now, let alone in 0.2.

[abstract karma]

Poe 1 a D4 zoomers hating pacing of poe 2 nothing new

Till there will be better balance it will remain

[acoustic jungle]

This is someone's brain on extremist ideology, btw. When you need to barricade yourself inside your room, you think that some negative comments mean the end of the world - like many discussions in here where I asked people who were saying there's so much negativity to show me where that negativity is (answer: like actually <1% of people posting are toxic-negative).

bro made a video showing us how humans really can't deal with negativity bias fr 💀

Zizaran specifically - who was featured - makes good points every patch. Using a clip of him being mad because the game is trash (it is, it was, it'll always be until they fix the swarming, animations, etc.) is crazy. Same with Raxx.

[gilded elm]

The video is trash, either clickbait or an actually bad take. Funny thing is Ziz rates 0.3 very highly, something like a 9/10.

[acoustic jungle]

That's a crazy rating, tho.

[gilded elm]

Maybe, but Ziz likes it and this guy completely misrepresented his opinion of the new league lol

[acoustic jungle]

Yea, that was my point as well. 9/10 is a crazy rating imho, but Ziz definitely didn't - quote - "shit on the game".

I didn't thoroughly watch all of them or know them all, but there's very rarely toxicity. Negativity, sure - and so what?

[tawny sand]

i think carn was the most negative from what i saw personally but it was mostly about the warrior nerfs, but then people are still playing warrior like Nugi

and nugi seems to be having a good time

[gilded elm]

I'm generally of the opinion that even toxic criticism is still valid criticism, from a consumer standpoint.

It's still an expression of the consumer's experience.

[acoustic jungle]

Yes, same. Absolutely. In a perfect world, you just don't care about the emotional weight it carries.

That's not an opinion, it's how a proper business is run. In many cases, those customers provide vital information, but taking the average case, it's still very useful.

But people think any single event of negativity is toxicity. Tell me you can't function in society without telling me. Being impacted like that is mad.

[gilded elm]

This video in particular, if genuine, betrays a more concerning mentality. The idea that players should reign in their criticisms to "avoid killing the game" as if a business asking for our time and money should be afforded this consideration at all lmao.

[tawny sand]

fr lol

[acoustic jungle]

He has a "why being negative is bad" where he explains that, in fact, creators should lie to people, and just say "it's alright" at worst, as to not demotivate them. That's crazy. So, it's ok to lie in one direction, but not the other one?

Exactly what I was gonna write.

[tawny sand]

oops wrong reply

[tawny sand]

meant to reply to this one, dunno how that happened

[acoustic jungle]

"To be objective" - buddy, you wouldn't know objective if it hit you in the face. Well, so, to conclude something: these videos are very dangerous, and this mentality is also dangerous, because it blinds you. You can't be extreme in any direction. In GGG's case, they should just thoughtfully listen to all feedback, and not dismiss anything.

[gilded elm]

A smart business would lean into the toxic criticism and find a way to turn it into a positive PR stunt.

I'm not even a marketing person, I feel like that's basic psychology.

[fierce moth]

I can give 7/10 for poe 2 0.3 only.

Act 4 +5, new seasonal mechanic +3-3, interlude acts +2.

[tawny sand]

idk, it's held my attention more than other arpgs at the moment

that's enough for me

[blissful token]

i kinda.... leave my frog in le to play poe2

[tawny sand]

i do need to get into silksong tho

[blissful token]

until i am frustrated or bored

[fierce moth]

It's amazing that a new system is good and bad at the same time xd

Abyssal is quite good for stacking resources like currencies and get an rare gear in early game (because magic gears are fine), but it's annoying in middle game because I don't get upgraded gears or more useful currencies anymore (they still drop magic gears and currencies for magic items only) and enemies from that are overwhelming (well everyone know how crazy their damage is and how dense are they especially you meet 3-4 abyssal at the same time).

4/5 troves risen up from abyssal are magic through I'm in act 4 and interlude acts already. Rare ones are too less.

I'm not sure do I want to play le later but I'm burnt out on le now.

New contents available in poe 2 is more than le, but poe 2 just too hard especially with abyssal.

[gilded elm]

It's okay to trade, you know. Lots of good gear you can buy for like 1 exalt each :)

[fierce moth]

👀 I can get an rare es boots with 3 resistances and 25% ms by 1e only?

[gilded elm]

Don't know about that, but I said good gear, not perfect gear.

[blissful token]

i am using magic boot with no ms

15% ms rare boot that dropped requires dex and i am almost full str 🥲

[gilded elm]

Double resists: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Rise of the Abyssal/rE9nwBMiQ

[blissful token]

if it wasn't because of sprint mechanic, i think my warrior is still in act 3

slowly thumping my slow arse boot every map

[blissful token]

^ decent buy

[desert jasper]

@blissful token need this?

[gilded elm]

Yeah, wasn't joking about good items being literally 1ex lol

Not a bad idea to check when things are too difficult and you're not able to get good drops.

[blissful token]

i am good thanks.. using a magic that is ~150 - 170 phy dmg mace

[fierce moth]

Holy. I just comepleted the 1st trade, 1e.

[gilded elm]

Grats lol

[blissful token]

didn't you do that in 0.1?

[fierce moth]

The 1st trade in 0.3

[blissful token]

buying 1e is better than wasting your exalts to craft yourself

get decent 1ex gear then grind the currency

when u have plenty then u can craft div valued gear

[gilded elm]

Yeah, if you're playing trade and not SSF, it's almost always better to just buy cheap 1ex gear at first

[blissful token]

my weapon and boot in act 4

i forgot i changed to a boot that has at least 10% ms 😂

[gilded elm]

Seems like you're playing on another difficulty with that gear at that level lol

[blissful token]

we will see at prison later when i finish dinner

[desert jasper]

Funny
prison is the next stop for me too

[fierce moth]

?!?!????! 1d is dropped in the 3rd map?! hhhhhhhhh interesting 🤔

[blissful token]

wow no filter

[fierce moth]

poe 2's filter just too complex to set 🙃

[gilded elm]

It's easy, just click "Follow" on these 3 for now:

1. https://www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/2gQ1Mofj
2. https://www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/ER174xSj
3. https://www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/XjNoVxsq

That should be enough to get you started

[tawny sand]

what's the highest affix tier in poe2?

[gilded elm]

After you follow those filters, I would probably recommend using this one for your level for now:

I use "regular" in campaign

[gilded elm]

I think they made it like PoE1 now, where T1 is the best?

[tawny sand]

ah okay

i thought it was the other way around too, but that was .1

i was wondering cause i was looking at tiers and it seemed tier 1 is higher now

and it seems the poe2 wiki is still out of date on the change then

so was confused

[blissful token]

owh they changed it already?

wow that || chapel goddess statue || is a pretty big upgrade to || flask ||

[gilded elm]

GGG please

[blissful token]

slideshow gaming

[fierce moth]

lol

[tawny sand]

what was your guy's hardest boss? Mine was the ||guaranteed rare at the entrance to Tavakai's island ||

the slam would just stun me and and i'd get hit by the follow ups

[blissful token]

ooo... prison is alright. The || waves in solitary confinement || is really cool though. This level of terrain for a iso arpg

i cant imagine what GTA 6 water looks like

[ebon meadow]

GTA 6 is a myth

2050 TM

[blissful token]

at least silksong is released

just not half life 3

[ebon meadow]

Dont mention half life I don't want to play shooters anymore I am boomer

Don't care for GTA it's just a global meme at this point

[blissful token]

[ebon meadow]

Last new shooters I played was quake and tarkov I suck and also always have net issues

Want to play some CS but every time I get there it's like meh I just go grind maps or make new characters

[blissful token]

but those are multiplayer shooters right?

[ebon meadow]

Yea

[blissful token]

half life was mainly for the narrative/story

[ebon meadow]

I used to play COD a lot

I liked the old multiplayer

[blissful token]

ahh

[ebon meadow]

Like 1.6 times

Or more like quake 3

[blissful token]

1.6 feels really boomer but good kind

[desert jasper]

Wait, what rare? there was a rare there?

[ebon meadow]

I switched from console to pc and have like over 1000 days between cods

[blissful token]

i dont quite remember too

[ebon meadow]

MW2 ,BO bo2

Islands are good xp farms for rares and small ISH zones lol

[blissful token]

i kinda stopped playing fps after 2 seasons of apex legend

[ebon meadow]

Also if u can do fast abyss they are great to hear before maps

[ebon meadow]

Apex felt great just when I played my old pc couldn't really handle it even in lowest settings

[tawny sand]

at the start when you first go to the island, at lesat for me. there's a whole animation to it

[blissful token]

Wait... I died?

[desert jasper]

Surprise

[gilded elm]

get rekt

[blissful token]

like canon

just ded

[desert jasper]

yes

[gilded elm]

canonic skill issue

[blissful token]

OOF

[ebon meadow]

Reaction not activated lul

Yea Poe be like this

[tawny sand]

should've dodged 5head

[blissful token]

✝️ 🪞

[ebon meadow]

For me it's like memory mechanic first move is a dash or a roll entering a zone

And I still forget there's a grace period a lot of times after 9 k hours

[fierce moth]

Exchange this wand with 1d I got tonight, it suppose to promise me of I don't need to upgrade my wand for a while

[blissful token]

i would check the tiering

isn't 1d suppose to get +6 skill?

[fierce moth]

+5 chaos skills need 5d already lol

[blissful token]

owh

maybe wand or magic class still ex

i not sure

[ebon meadow]

What do people mean when say mele is bad ? If u can roll a weapon from Poe 1

From another server

Actually disgusting

[tawny sand]

i'd give them 1 lesser jeweller's for it

final offer

[ebon meadow]

2 fkn coins to delete it lmao

[tawny sand]

lol

[ebon meadow]

Things like this u don't show people because they get mad when they can't roll things like this

[tawny sand]

but that's part of the fun

[ebon meadow]

Now everyone and they mother going to craft and flood market and I will have to make a warrior

[desert jasper]

Just got a new bow
doubled the poison dmg again 👌

[ebon meadow]

More dots ,insert slam gif

[desert jasper]

oh. Now I see
KEK

instagibbed me

[blissful token]

lol

i fought fire with fire

weird that the mini boss regen health, i think cuz i fought it with fire

just have to deal more fire dmg that it can regen

[desert jasper]

just dropped that

[blissful token]

u should have played warrior nub

my mace that dropped in prison just now and am using it now

[desert jasper]

Well
You can have the one I dropped if you want it

[blissful token]

still doing alright

let me add you

ign?

i think u posted earlier let me search

[desert jasper]

RipuliJousi

[blissful token]

pogger

i'll accept the offer

[desert jasper]

sec

[blissful token]

oh i cant go from inside a cave

canal hideout music is just ziggurat's theme no?

take your time

thanks nub 🫡

[desert jasper]

np
was at a boss fight so couldn't move during that

[blissful token]

all good i hope i didn't burn your hideout

[desert jasper]

You might've a little

[blissful token]

owh the dps in skills shows lower, i think cuz my mace got 25% atk spd

[desert jasper]

I did think about slamming the weapon for you
But then I thought eh you can do it if you want

And yeah, the attack speed

[blissful token]

🫡

[desert jasper]

Especially after I just used 12 exalts myself

10 to buy the bow and then 2 exalts on it since it only had 4 affixes
Would've been massive if it hit +projectile levels but no

[blissful token]

+projectile is kinda godly

[desert jasper]

Yeah

[blissful token]

wait... the tattoo reward

can i not get my own attribute?

[desert jasper]

There's 3 different ones

and you could get the attribute
I just picked the res on all of them myself

[blissful token]

ahhhh

ok thanks

[vagrant topaz]

Always had been

[gilded elm]

Yep, Despair is a pretty big damage increase for Poison, finally was able to pick it up after getting enough Int. Probably would be so much stronger if I was Pathfinder, lol

[blissful token]

yama design pretty cool

for a wukong-like creature

[gilded elm]

:D

[fierce moth]

.....???? Why my game is paused automatically and I can't resume? The game is fixed by itself

[blissful token]

eye of hinekora bugged?

[desert jasper]

The ? with + not going away?

[blissful token]

i think i missed something

[desert jasper]

Nah it just doesnt' go away for some reason

[blissful token]

do you refer to navali's rest?

also my tattoo is not greyed and crossed out

[tawny sand]

did you talk to the totems again when you got the tatoos?

it should give you a choice between resists and attributes i think

[blissful token]

i picked all 3

[tawny sand]

then i guess the icon is just bugged

[blissful token]

i consumed all 3 tattoo items

so yea

as for the navali's rest, i read online that you have to || "pay respect" || somewhere for it

[tawny sand]

i can't remember

[desert jasper]

||Ah... yeah, the silver coin from yama? maybe. ||

[blissful token]

got that 2 passive points already

found it

funny if you are using Blood Magic node, the reward is useless lmao

[desert jasper]

Huh
I didn't see that one 🤔

[blissful token]

it is in the map before halls of the dead

you can waypoint there and backtrack

ahh maybe i did miss 1 of the attribute

the yama site is separate from it i guess

[tawny sand]

there's 1 for fire too yeah

[blissful token]

damn

this island is abit confusing

[tawny sand]

it is yeah lol

[blissful token]

but at least i know the icon is not bugged and it is actually great it wasn't greyed out

i still have the map revealed cuz the instance still active

thank god

got it

its nice and clean now

[fierce moth]

🤔 Why players want to defer items in ritual? Just found this feature

[desert jasper]

Because it covers a part of the cost
so it'll be cheaper next time you see it
and you can defer it again

It's the only way you can get some of the more expensive items in Ritual

[mental talon]

Because if you don't defer but want the item it is gone. If you want something you defer and you keep deferring until it is cheap enough to buy it.

[desert jasper]

And yeah, that too

[mental talon]

But you see the 2nd line here is what explains how it works. "Pay 15% of an item original cost to defer that item. This item will reappear in a later area, discounted be 10% of it's original cost"

So if you see for example a Headhunter it'll cost like 20,000 Tribute. No way can you afford that. But you can defer it and keep deferring it until you get it.

This happened to me in PoE 1 for example where a Mirror appeared but obviously I couldn't afford it and I just kept deferring until I could buy it from Ritual

[twilit mountain]

Yoooo five alchs!

[fierce moth]

My Jesus. I just opened an rare abyssal trove, 1d is dropped then

[twilit mountain]

Nice!

[fierce moth]

Ok I can shop one rare sapphire now

[blissful token]

you guys are getting div drop?

[twilit mountain]

I've gotten one (like 30 minutes ago)

[desert jasper]

haven't seen a single div yet

[fierce moth]

It seems a valuable unique body armour if my rolls can be more 1d on market

yooooo poe 2 give me consistent dopamine finally

Cleared the 1st tower, the experience in tower map improved a lot (just personal because I found 1d and this unique body armour in the tower)

[blissful token]

so they just give u 3 free exalted orbs and 3 regal orbs with ||the bell in Arastas||

[fierce moth]

Take it with 10e

Byte and Deias on the same level, lv 77 I'm lv 70

[blissful token]

i am level 54

the herald....

wat

i... dont geddit

he died the second attempt when he dont do the || wall explode thing ||

[twilit mountain]

I found a thing

[fierce moth]

🤔 A key for vault? Spoiled me what're inside the vault please

[blissful token]

isn't that where you get to pick a free unique?

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, just surprised, didn't know they were in yet

Nothing fancy from it, but I will keep, I do like my foils

[blissful token]

water and cabbage ehh?

[blissful token]

i think i know what rare nub and fleshy were talking about

[desert jasper]

Cabbage soup is nice every now and then, I'll admit
but has to have more than just cabbage and water

[blissful token]

done with takavai

but i am looking for the meeting house

found

oo so i am in interlude now

[candid sage]

god crafting in poe2 is so good this patch

[twilit mountain]

Yyyyyum

[gilded elm]

Armour, Rage, Thorns and Chaos Res? Bruh lol

[twilit mountain]

That's a 5 mod jewel for me actually

[fierce moth]

My Jesus, 153 mana + 41%... Forget that word + 17% cold and chaos resistance... 1000% juicy

[gilded elm]

Stun Threshold on a jewel all that much useful for you?

[twilit mountain]

I active block on bosses so yes

[gilded elm]

Active block enjoyers lul

[fierce moth]

Why flask of this streamer looks... like this?

[twilit mountain]

Hey it keeps me alive

[twilit mountain]

They overlaid images on their flasks to be "funny"

[candid sage]

flashbacks to working in gas stations holy

[gilded elm]

It was funny watching Quin play the same/similar build and doing Sekhema. Literally active blocking everything and taking no honour loss lmao

[twilit mountain]

Yea it's pretty dumb

[junior oyster]

Guess I don't understand

[fierce moth]

which term ARPG players use for describing "rarity of item found"?

[twilit mountain]

Magic find usually

(Shortened to MF)

[gilded elm]

Magic Find or MF

Oh, yeah what Deias said

[fierce moth]

👍 Thanks, both

[gilded elm]

It's from Diablo 2

[candid sage]

there is a specific type of person that buys olde english 40z and virginia slims menthols

[twilit mountain]

The best part of MF, of which there are very few good parts imo, is being able to call builds that use it "MFers"

[gilded elm]

MF should be removed from gear

IMO

[twilit mountain]

I agree

[gilded elm]

You should only be able to achieve MF by juicing maps or something

Not forcing it to be a competitive choice on gear lol

[twilit mountain]

Like, my current build could just throw a bunch on rings because the only affixes that do anything on my build are life, % fire damage, and resistances. In comparison, a lot of attack builds reeeeeeally want to get a bunch of flat damage on their prefixes and so can't usually sac a slot for MF

[fierce moth]

https://youtu.be/7qO18tVc1FQ?si=hfXn5D9LmfTMOhhi&t=376
hhhhhh you mean this one I guess

[gilded elm]

I think I was watching when his build was less mature. When he was actually active blocking by facing his shield towards the attack.

[gilded elm]

Whether or not a build can afford to put MF on any gear without losing efficiency should be used as a metric for when a build is under or over performing lol

For GGG to tune

[twilit mountain]

I think that depends a bit, I wouldn't say this build is overperforming by any stretch. It's not immortal, it isn't one tapping every boss, it's not moving at Mach 12; it's just a pretty solid build that has limited scaling vectors.

[gilded elm]

Thorns seems fine, not really "over" performing. I do think in general a lot of stuff in PoE2 is simply under performing.

[mental talon]

Yeah Im enjoying crafting in POE 2 now, I can deterministically hit ES Recharge + Deflection Rating as a guarantee. Hell yeah

[twilit mountain]

Oh damn, homie's got that triple socketer

[mental talon]

Yeah the base was like 10 Ex for a Normal Rarity? Then I kinda forced the T1 ES with just Perfect Aug + Annuls and fished for either T1 Hybrid Prefix or a Defense suffix with the Regal Orb Omen. Block the last Prefix so it can't be life that way H-genous Exaltation + Perfect Exalted has to hit ES Recharge Rate + Deflection Rating.

No life mods or any other tagged mods mean suffix H Omen has to hit Recharge + Deflection Rating

So I can do the CI Swap, sell my old gear and grab myself a Quarterstaff 🙂

[gilded elm]

This is a Dex/Int base, right? Is Craft of Exile simply not updated? https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=50&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=17&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={"limit":88}

[mental talon]

• with Desecrated Prefix I can keep fishing until T1 Hybrid and Sanctify the base

[mental talon]

Yeah and that's PoE 1 CoE you're on btw

[gilded elm]

Link not might be holding the PoE2 state, but I'm def on PoE2 page

Yeah link seems bad, looks like

[mental talon]

Also for those that don't know you can turn your Fracture attempts from 1/4 into 1/3 because Desecrated Mods are ignored by Fracturing Orbs

It's how I've been making good stuff+ selling with minimal effort

[gilded elm]

These are the highest level base types I see from the original page I linked from (it's the Emulator for PoE2)

[mental talon]

Yeah that base is a new one CoE isn't updated

[gilded elm]

I do see it on poe2db though

[mental talon]

Check PoEDB(2)

[gilded elm]

CoE updated for the new omens though, I think

These omens are from .3 right?

[mental talon]

Yeah ideally I would go Falconer's for MS or Sleek for the Flat ES + EV bigger number

Nah those are from base game

A lot of those Omens don't exist anymore

[gilded elm]

Ah, so CoE just straight up isn't updated for .3 at all

Man, that's unfortunate. I know it's a passion/hobby project, but it's such a good tool. Wish it was updated lol

[mental talon]

Yeah I trust POEdb more than CoE more often anyways because CoE even for PoE 1 has straight up wrong weightings

[gilded elm]

For PoE2, apparently GGG removed the weightings completely from the client game files.

[mental talon]

Yup they've been reverse engineered through Recombinators

[gilded elm]

So CoE uses aggregated price data to "guess" weightings for PoE2

[mental talon]

The ones on PoEDB 2 are very close to the expected (idk if they differ) but tl;Dr Dawn of the Hunt people reverse engineered through Recombinators success chance to get a rough approximation of weighting

[gilded elm]

GGG please

[mental talon]

Kind of like how The Disenchanter + Ultimatum gave us pretty much the tiering of all Uniques in PoE 1

But yeah the chest is basically I. A "Can't brick" state for me which is pretty neat because I'm a big crafting my own gear enjoyer

[gilded elm]

Are you just using poe2db for affixes/weightings and napkin math to figure out best crafting approach on a base?

[mental talon]

Yeah that and pretty much how the Omens work

Because the Omens respect tags

So because my Prefixes are only Defence Tagged and don't have Hybrid Life with an Omen of H-genous Exaltation I can only hit Defense Tagged Suffixes

[gilded elm]

Ah

[mental talon]

They kind of function similar to how Fossils have tags they completely eliminate so with that knowledge you can deterministically craft w.e. you want

[gilded elm]

I see a lot of people successfully crafting some cool stuff with the new omens, seems like the crafting has improved a lot

[mental talon]

Tbh I think the new omens are insane

The tiered currency + omens are legitimately so strong it isn't even funny

• Desecration allows for clever usage of gameplay mechanics

[gilded elm]

What's the tiered currency do? Does it just roll higher tier mods?

[mental talon]

It locks out certain Leveled tiers

Which in some cases can remove entire mods from the pool

[gilded elm]

I see, so Regular Transmute/Aug can roll any tier, but Greater won't roll lower than X tier, basically?

[mental talon]

Yup

They're very strong

[gilded elm]

Yeah, sounds nuts. I really wanna craft my own stuff even if it ends up being way more expensive to do so, cuz that's more fun

[mental talon]

Yeah I basically don't usually buy much gear (in PoE 1 outside of Uniques I pretty much self craft up until Mirrors etc.) and right now this is a perfect state for me because you can deterministically craft starter/mod tier gear with minimal effort and if you know what you're doing craft giga gear. Like I was crafting the 100% Effect Of Sockets boots + gloves for a few days to just absolutely don't but more people know how now so I left the market lul

[gilded elm]

My gripe with PoE crafting (both 1 and 2) is that all of the information is scattered. I wish crafting was consolidated and everything was in one place like in LE.

[mental talon]

I genuinely just enjoy crafting + blasting so I'm obv having fun

[gilded elm]

That's why CoE is so useful for me, because everything is in one place

[mental talon]

Yeah I've just got obv years of practice but I still use PoEDB to kinda make sure I'm on the right path

I just enjoy the puzzle aspect of figuring out how few pieces can I use to get to the end

[gilded elm]

Yep, knowledge is power.

It's crazy watching Ben craft god tier gear in HCSSF, he just has so much game knowledge

A lot of stuff he crafts is better than what most people can get in trade league lol

[mental talon]

Oh yeah for sure PoE is ultimately a game that the more you know the easier it gets (obviously Ben_'s also mechanically insane)

That's probably why it's my favorite ARPG of all time over D2 (inb4ragebait)

[gilded elm]

Not even a hot take. Actually true for me too lol

[mental talon]

Plus I like that I'm always learning in PoE

There's still stuff someone will point out and teach me that makes me just appreciative I guess idk

[gilded elm]

I heard essences are good now too? Are people doing Normal base + Lesser -> Magic base + Greater for the first 2 affixes?

[mental talon]

Essences are insane yeah

You can use Essences as like a stop gap in higher tier crafting process

Like if you're crafting a Helmet you can force on a Resist if any tier to H-genous Exalt force or on Rings to force a specific flat value

A lot of different little tricks

And perfect essences are kinda just broken lol

Deterministically guarantee a Martial Weapon to have + levels to attack + Onslaught lol

Force of specific Affix with omens that interact with essence etc. Just different parts of the overall crafting puzzle

[gilded elm]

All of this without scours or alterations. IMO Jonathan will be proven right that PoE2's crafting is the right way to go and doesn't diminish the value of item bases.

Once they add more ways to craft

[mental talon]

I'm pretty happy with the state of crafting (I might think it's even too powerful if you know what you're doing lmao)

[twilit mountain]

I really would just prefer having scours and alts though... We already had high value bases, it was called 30% qual

Or synth

[mental talon]

But also part of that is just skewed because Abyss crafting is crazy powerful (I like this version of Abyss more than PoE 1 version)

Theirs a lot of checkpoints in this crafting system if you know what you're doing which is pretty neat too

[gilded elm]

I assume because PoE2's crafting before the abyss stuff was too lacking. They'll probably tune abyss crafting down when there's more crafting mechanics added.

[mental talon]

Yeah I legit think it's insane how powerful it is. Game went from like lmao exalt exalt drop on floor to T1+T1+T1 + Force Perfect rest of affixes

It's certainly felt like crafting whiplash ngl

[gilded elm]

Oh yeah and the tiered currency basically eliminating categories of mods

[mental talon]

From no crafting to "How perfect would you like your item my liege?"

It's fun tho so I can't complain

Yeah it's bored power so I mean it ain't the end of the world. I'm just surprised is all lol

[gilded elm]

I'm very tempted to fine-tune a GPT model on poe2db item and crafting data sets to help me with crafting

[twilit mountain]

Hm.. is there no way to get armor to cover chaos?

[mental talon]

If you want a tip for what I've been doing is I've been making use of the fact that Recombinators can also be a pseudo starting point so if something has a mod I want but rest garbage I've been buying the base or w.e.

[mental talon]

Off the top of my head, I don't think so

[twilit mountain]

Damn. Shame. I'm suffering rn because I rolled a map with mobs gain extra as chaos

[gilded elm]

Using recombs to combine two trash items that have at least one or two mods you want and hope it creates a good crafting base for you?

[mental talon]

Yeah the Recombinators currency is basically dirt cheap and there's also an Omen for Lucky Recombination

[gilded elm]

Ah, nice. Trash bases with like 1 or 2 desirable mods are probably even less than 1ex, huh? Like regals maybe lol

[mental talon]

So for example I've been selling to all the Deadeye players by getting +3 Proj bases and combine them with a high weight prefix and then crafting Amulets that way and selling them for up until about yesterday 30+ Div (people have caught on)

[mental talon]

Yep

[gilded elm]

Clever haha

[mental talon]

You can also do the strategy of trying to craft a specific powerful Affix by combining with a high weight Affix to try and get on a different base and crafting from there

Lots of little tricks rn tbh

[gilded elm]

I've seen people using reforge instead of recomb. Is reforge a trap?

[mental talon]

I think reforge is a trap personally. Not worth

Like maybe for Maps sure

[gilded elm]

Yeah, too random

[mental talon]

But so many bases can have just 1 Affix you want for basically pennies

[gilded elm]

I guess the only time reforge is "good" is obviously maps and if the items have zero mods you want

[mental talon]

I crafted this from Recombining 2 of my desired mods and just spammed cheap bases until I hit

Then I prefix Desecrated and crafted Suffixes with Omen tech

[gilded elm]

Damn, dude. I'm gonna start doing this Recombinator strat for my own stuff. With the async trading now, there's no hassle of buying up the cheap bases and slamming them

[mental talon]

Cost me like uhhh maybe 50-60 Ex total to craft?

[desert jasper]

Hmm
about to go fight the boss of 2nd interlude act

[mental talon]

Yeah all my gear is self crafted and either started with me recombining or using the better tiered Currency

[gilded elm]

Quin just now: Recombing is a thing?

lul

And he's been crafting all his stuff too, and didn't know people are using Recomb (someone in chat mentioned it)

[desert jasper]

yeaa I kinda hate this boss

[gilded elm]

Interlude 2 is... ||Faridun Prince||, right? He was annoying

[desert jasper]

yes

||i find his flickering strike thingy bullshit||

[gilded elm]

Yeah lol

He seemed like one of the most complained-about bosses on Reddit

I'm tired of using my mana flask so much, I need to get mana leech back on my gear again

[desert jasper]

||And then I just ran to the other side of the arena for that attack and suddenly np||

Tbh, most annoying part with the fight was the starting of it
slooowly walking to the boss

[gilded elm]

Still, glad to be doing something different rather than Act 1-3 Cruel haha

[desert jasper]

Oh yea, definitely

Gonna leave the 3rd one for tomorrow
Kinda haven't slept well lately so thinking of calling it earlier night today

[gilded elm]

Yeah... when you said you slept only 2 hours a couple days ago

[desert jasper]

A couple days ago
that was sunday-monday night

[gilded elm]

My concept of time is warped, don't mind me

The days just blur together

This is what happens when you work remotely and never go out

Your brain turns into mush

[desert jasper]

Yeah, I know the feeling

[maiden widget]

i miss it already

got to go to the corpo 2 days a week now

otoh kinda nice to actually see coworkers

[gilded elm]

Damn, that sucks D:

True, there are upsides

As long as the commute isn't terrible

[maiden widget]

its not great but was worth it due to much more growth possible and better salary

[gilded elm]

Could always be worse too, could be 5 days a week

[junior oyster]

I do that

[maiden widget]

yeah if it ever becomes 3d ill look again

[junior oyster]

Although my commute even with the worst traffic is around 30mins

[maiden widget]

currently its 4h commute per week roughly

[gilded elm]

Oh wow, so an hour there and an hour back? 2 hours per day

[maiden widget]

yep but its alright for 2days

[junior oyster]

If I catch the bus it'll take maybe an hour

[gilded elm]

On the bright side, bus commutes never felt that bad for me (when I was living in Korea)

Since I could just sleep

[maiden widget]

its kinda funny, much less responsibility, way higher wage only downside is the commute

[junior oyster]

Yea if I catch the bus I'm playing StS on my phone

I'd almost never consider Uber though

That's like almost £10 per trip

[maiden widget]

oof

needed a new car anyway - my old one was 21y old so i can drive comfy now

[gilded elm]

For 30 minutes worth of distance? Still cheaper than what it would be in the US, sounds like. That kind of distance in the US would be like twice that I think

With Uber/Lyft

[junior oyster]

Ok now that I got to level 100, 1 lp red ring and 1000c+ I don't feel like playing le any more

[maiden widget]

i am trying to do uber abberoth but EUW ping is kinda ass every day

[junior oyster]

Bus is £5 for the whole day

[maiden widget]

and upgrading items is hard rn

[gilded elm]

Oh yeah, bus is economical for sure. But public transit buses in the US are... not good haha

[junior oyster]

Yea ngl I don't care about ubers in games

[fierce moth]

welcome to hang with poe 2 :)

[junior oyster]

Eh I don't feel like poe2

[maiden widget]

dont really care either but with this equipment i kinda wanna try

[junior oyster]

Might go back to grim dawn

[maiden widget]

i'm glad evs exist now with solar

pretty comfy to be able to drive mostly with your own electricity

[junior oyster]

Too expensive here

[maiden widget]

we got kinda ok priced EVs now

[junior oyster]

Also solar is almost non-existent in the UK

We usually have pretty 'bad' weather

[maiden widget]

its kinda big in southern germany

lots of sun during march until nov

[junior oyster]

Yea our sun is usually between June/July and Sept

[maiden widget]

i think your pricer per kwh is way lower though

[junior oyster]

Maybe

[maiden widget]

roughly 30ct including taxes here

[ebon meadow]

Can confirm ,I m from north and UK can't rely on solar power lul

That's why I stayed in Spain since I got here

[abstract karma]

you have wind and water

[gilded elm]

I like gloomy weather. I feel like I'd like living in the UK

[maiden widget]

produced 9.63MWh this year already

big gains

[junior oyster]

Same that's why I put bad in quotation marks

[ebon meadow]

U think so but that every day normality ,not very good for mental health for some people

It's just sad

[abstract karma]

UK have ways to have green energy..

Either way green energy is BS for whole EU because biggest part of this planet spends fosils for many things and their are cause of climatic slow changes of earth anyway

[gilded elm]

I live in Maryland, it rains a lot here which I like a lot

[maiden widget]

green energy is the cheapest form of energy nowadays anyway

[junior oyster]

It's ok we get told to recycle meanwhile all our recycling just goes to the tip 😂

[maiden widget]

we just need better nets and some storage

[ebon meadow]

Here we have big solar supply and decent laws also Eolic

[junior oyster]

Anyways I'm still unsure of what to play now

So many choices

[ebon meadow]

Recycling is same as many country's yes we get separate containers but when they get to waste yard they just mix them together anyways ,maybe except plastic and MAYBE paper

[maiden widget]

can recommend gnomes if you like tower defense games

fun little game

[abstract karma]

and not USA, RU, China or any state which rather use fosils type of energy..

Secondly we would need no stupid politics to keep army needs on minimum

[abstract karma]

irony behind green energy - you can't recycle that trash which lately it becames after end of it lifetime

[maiden widget]

well usa and ru both have fossil supplies that are cheapish

[junior oyster]

I got all these games (and more) but I just can't decide lol

Already played LE and SV recently

And BAR is a little rough for me xD

[abstract karma]

too much same kind.. maybe except divnity and no man sky

[ebon meadow]

Stardew and terraria spotted always fun to mess around

No mans sky I have to but haven't played since release lol I even refunded and bought it back again

Same as astroneer

[junior oyster]

I played terraria kinda recently too xD

[abstract karma]

If you can't immerse to Terraria you will never be able finish it

[ebon meadow]

Slay the spire also heard good things

[junior oyster]

I have StS fatigue

Love it to bits

But I'm too hyped for StS2

[abstract karma]

when i have enough RPG or ARPG i just go FPS or Horor gerne

[ebon meadow]

I go survivals

[abstract karma]

that's too close to RPG these days

[twilit mountain]

Hooray. Gloves.

[ebon meadow]

Need to remake my private game in ark ,also last biom in valheim

[junior oyster]

Went with grim dawn for now

[ebon meadow]

Was twitching about Minecraft a week ago

[abstract karma]

if you have 100% convert to elemental that leech is useless

[maiden widget]

huh you cant add class specific affixes to generic relics?

[sudden anchor]

Anyone playing poe2 on steamdeck/switch or something cheaper than a traditional laptop?

[ebon meadow]

Oh yea forgot 7 days to die haven't touched latest patches ,love the game

Probably steam deck

[abstract karma]

I'm waiting on Stalker 2 modding boom to have proper Stalker game

[ebon meadow]

I need to try Stalker I have only read novels never played any games

[twilit mountain]

I know someone who plays on SD. I have a below minimum specs for the game laptop if that counts.

[ebon meadow]

Last one vas very good reviewed

[junior oyster]

I did play PoE2 on SD when it came out

It was ok

[maiden widget]

poe1 is ~40-45fps tops on steam deck

[junior oyster]

LE runs better imo

[ebon meadow]

Steam deck should be fine

[maiden widget]

would surprise me if it does the same in 2

[abstract karma]

welp you need a lot of paitience if you used to too much on newest comfort of modern engines..

[ebon meadow]

Poe2 struggles on best pc for people so yea optimization is not all there

[junior oyster]

I absolutely hate controller for poe1

[abstract karma]

quite irony since LE has horrible problem with optimalization and leaks

[junior oyster]

Too many buttons

Same with grim dawn

[ebon meadow]

I don't like controller on any arpg apart from magic

[junior oyster]

Last season LE was laggy ah but this season was super smooth for me on medium settings

[maiden widget]

d3 on switch is my fav way to play the game

wish i had controller support on pc

[ebon meadow]

It doesn't ???

[junior oyster]

Yea I wouldn't mind d3 or similar min button games on controllers

[junior oyster]

Nope

[ebon meadow]

Wait D3 controller can be very nice I played on PS on release with witchdoctor

[junior oyster]

And doors auto open on console

[sudden anchor]

I too have lower than min specs on my laptop. afraid it wont run a tad bit smoothly with my i5 8250u and mx150

[junior oyster]

PoE2 ran mostly fine on my 4th gen i5 cpu and gtx 970

Loading times were awful though

[ebon meadow]

A bit dumb when shooters have controller support in shooter on Blizz launcher

[ebon meadow]

Apparently they fixed that ,but there's few new things that went bad

[junior oyster]

D3R will have controller and touchscreen support surely

[ebon meadow]

I miss my touchscreen on Lenovo laptop it was so handy for few games

[junior oyster]

I use it fairly often on some games

[ebon meadow]

I used it for stash management a lot

[junior oyster]

Sadly I have already scratched my screen a few times although the scratches are only visible if the screen is black

[ebon meadow]

That is what I call immersion when u move things with u hands lmao

[junior oyster]

In LE I used it to quickly choose to fight a boss in monos

[twilit mountain]

Yeeeeah, I get slideshows when a lot happens.
Not entirely my fault, the game is not fully optimized for sure

[ebon meadow]

Vulcan should be better from what I m seeing ,but u l play with spikes for 15 mints to an hour before shaders download again

I need to fix my hourly crash to but switching to Vulcan bricks me for extended time

[maiden widget]

nope sadly only on console

[ebon meadow]

That is silly since controller was up on ps 3 lmao

10+ years I think and still didn't included on pc client

Can't even remember the release for D3 ,2012?

[junior oyster]

PC was used as a beta test for consoles

[ebon meadow]

2013 September

[junior oyster]

I can never forgive them for killing off Cain

The way they did it I mean

[ebon meadow]

That is the first reason that I switched from console to pc ,library and testing games

[junior oyster]

He was an old man so they shoulda just had him die on his deathbed or something

[ebon meadow]

I need to contact an old friend he has a usb with 1998 version of D2 with hero maker

I want it

[junior oyster]

Download it?

[ebon meadow]

I lost it with my pc death and that version was from a Disket

[junior oyster]

Pretty sure various patches are available online

Just don't play online ofc

[ebon meadow]

Not sure I can get it anymore spatially the hero maker version that would work on today's windows

I think I have a small laptop that still has the version and the folder ,and yea can't even go online on that anymore

Just need to see if I can power it up ,battery decently dead and the charger socket had it's time

It's a winXP

I don't know if that version is available for a download it was the old blizzard launcher before battle net

[ebon meadow]

I need to ascend I still don't know if bloodmage or litch

Level 54 XD

I don't want to do trials now I m so cozy just going through islands

[mental talon]

@gilded elm Fracture tech is OP

and Lucky Recombinator OP too

The Melee Switch is coming soon.

[jade jackal]

Nearly there

[gilded elm]

Damn, that's a lot of phys%. Also just had a good recomb

[mental talon]

Also FYI idk if you know but Perfect Essence of Battle is awesoem for Melee/Martial weapons, guarantees +6 to attack skills/+4 for Bows

[gilded elm]

Nice. Don't think I'm at the point in maps/atlas where I'm getting perfects though, don't think I have any atm

[tawny sand]

so ricochet 3 has pierce all targets without the reduced damage like pierce 3, what did ggg mean by this?

[fierce moth]

I never try any crafting systems in poe 2 yet...

re-combo and vailed items I mean

I don't unlock the location of abyssal crafting

[warped wren]

you should.

[tawny sand]

what does it mean when the affix is yellow like the increased physical damage on that?

[twilit mountain]

Fractured, it can't be modified

[tawny sand]

oh it's fractured, i figured it out

beat me to it lol

[sand wigeon]

I have now beat Silksong

Time played: ||15 hours, while mostly completing levels as I went through them||

Ending and notes: ||I got the most basic ending you can get, and I’m pretty sure there’s a LOT more to do, I just need to figure out how to get to it. It seems like there’s around four more endings in addition to the basic ending, going off secret achievements in the achievement section in game.||

[twilit mountain]

She's so skongpilled

[fierce moth]

😂 I figured it out later... A visual bug here

I bind interaction with L2, but here still hint me to press x. It's not changed so... This is a trick

~~🤔 emmmm ok GGG don't implement the whole interaction of controller for this UI yet. No button for move item to the slot.

Damn, so I can't use that unless I switch to mouse & keyboard UI~~

Oh I can use that normally but I can't remove item already on the slot... I must select one once it's reveal

hah? wait... I need to use currencies to let them own secreted mod at first

Item level is too high.

????....

[twilit mountain]

Gnawed ones can only be used on item level 64 and below, you need preserved or ancient

[blissful token]

I dont really get avatar of fire

If i have skills that already convert 80% phy to fire dmg, avatar of fire is useless?

[fierce moth]

Oh never know these secreted currencies have hierarchy too

[blissful token]

Or the main use of it is to make flat phy on mace to scale with fire instead of phy?

[fierce moth]

Why Navali always stand near my waypoint through I deleted her again and again?????

Oh come on, She is back again after I'm back to hideout

[twilit mountain]

The main use is for things that don't already convert to fire.

For example, I use it on thorns because it allows me to get value out of Tithing runes, scale fire penetration, still get value from armor break, and scale off of increased fire damage on gear without losing anything of note

[blissful token]

But it reduce some of my skills dmg since they only partially convert to fire right? The phy portion is ignored

[twilit mountain]

The phys portion is still converted by AoF at the ratio stated

So if you have say a skill with 80% convert and 100 damage, then it becomes 80 fire 20 phys, with AoF that 20 phys gets converted at 75% so it'll be a total of 95 fire 5 phys

[blissful token]

Hmm i think i geddit now

There is no downside then

[twilit mountain]

Y'all want some armor on your hat?

[fierce moth]

Will it replace one of current mods on the wand if I use preserved jawbone?

[twilit mountain]

Only if it already has 6 mods on it

[fierce moth]

Oh damn. My wand have 6 mods yes

[blissful token]

Thats very nice but i cant equip it yet cuz of level

[twilit mountain]

Unfort

[fierce moth]

Interesting, last night was up to 79:1, today... :(

e is more value, d is less value :(

[vagrant arch]

is this rage bait

[twilit mountain]

Shadewalker mod might need a nerf, this shit's kinda impossible to get away from lol

[warped wren]

the teleporter thing?

yeah abyss mobs are still kinda monka

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, the one that ports to you and degens your health at like 2k/s lmao

[warped wren]

abyss degens are WILD

those little green skulls

that are basically invisible

but cuck you over for like half your health

[twilit mountain]

[warped wren]

god I am ONE div away from buying my xbow base

if only some lucker buys some of my stuff

[desert jasper]

oh, neat
I sold something over the night

just 5 exalts but still neat

[fierce moth]

I hope the capity of inventory can get more really...

I'm not sure how to unlock that...Do complete maps with corruption icon is the only way to earn points for atlas tree?

(the way to earn atlas points is changed? My memory still stay on complete 10 t1 maps/t2 maps/t3 maps and so on)

Update: Oh the rule is changed in 0.2, make sense.

[warped wren]

gaming

[fierce moth]

Oh? The 1st unique support gem I get.

🤔 Tablets have unique versions too? Interesting

[fierce moth]

Oh no. Oh yes. I guess it's belong to here

Never see a key. Can it drop from anywhere?

I even no idea how to search the key for this unique map on trade lol (I want to know how expensive the key is)

[blissful token]

i barely survived interlude 2 boss

whats this?

kay nvm i got it

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1n99ldn/why_is_navali_sitting_on_my_waypoint_every_time_i/

hhhhhh

That's funny that everyone have the same issue with Navali

[blissful token]

wait what? if you || killed the boss too fast|| , the wisp is ignored and you dont get it completed?

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1n9m0o1/training_the_next_generation_of_exiles_wifey_is

That's the sense of a game. Full of love and happiness :)

I hope they don't scared by abyssal enemies xd

[desert jasper]

Well that was a fun sanctum attempt
3rd ascendancy
some random mob attack hit me for over 600 honor
there was nothing boosting enemy dmg, nothing boosting honor dmg
i even had 40% honor res

and then I died to the boss

God, I hate sanctum so much

[blissful token]

okie imma stop at yeti for now

been fun so far

[ebon meadow]

Never had that happen usually wisp speeds up to if u going fast and poses a rare or a boss

Like it can go fast and usually goes through as many packs on the ways as possible

Had it posesing essence rare before that was fun

[junior oyster]

Highly unlikely knowing ggg

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1n9yiy9/i_just_want_to_know_what_i_did_wrong_or_should/

WHAT the hell?! Oh it's quite scary

Why these chains drain health even the boss combat is ended

[desert jasper]

Time to warm up the sauna

[ebon meadow]

It's 34 C here wdum lmao

I started to sweat after reading sauna

[desert jasper]

Only 21c here and I feel like I need to relax

[ebon meadow]

Cold ones over here after Saturday work 🍻

[desert jasper]

Man, I could go for some of that after sauna

[ebon meadow]

Defenetly hits the g spot lul. Sauna -cold pool - beer

Life is perfect

[desert jasper]

No pool here

I don't really like swimming either tbh

[ebon meadow]

It's not for the swim it's for braking Ur temperature a bit after 30 mints in 127C sauna

Feels so nice

Smell of coal and wood man I miss it to much might have to get back on it this year

For now and untill October is AC and beer here

[desert jasper]

Oh i don't go to 127c sauna
60-80 is where I enjoy it and can actually relax

[ebon meadow]

Fair about swimming pools here everyone has one and also sea is 5 mint walk from my regular sauna

[ebon meadow]

Yea I m russian lul parents always hacked the thermometer and went over 120 . We like to get toxins out very heavy metal

[desert jasper]

Also it can't make it too hot so my elderly parents can go in

[ebon meadow]

Best thing about sauna no colds or regular illness if u do It every year

[desert jasper]

Nah I still get ill and cold even if I go to sauna

[ebon meadow]

Need to temper u body , bucket of cold water does the thing to

No suffering without reward

Last Russian resort I went to had like showers with just a string of rope that u pull after sauna and it tilts a bucket of cold water on you

[desert jasper]

Yeah that sure helps when you have autoimmune disease