📚┃off-topic

[twilit mountain]

Aggggh... annoying annoying annoying. I have to come back sometime due to my proofs of residence and identification not being accepted. Which is extremely stupid because the mail I brought for residence is literally sent from a higher body of government and the identification is literally medical records and, once again, records from a higher body of government.

[fierce moth]

I need to solve my speaking issue at first because every job need me to speak clearly, confidently and smoothly in front of people...

[desert jasper]

whew that was a lot of messages

[fierce moth]

🙃 Very difficult to expand comfortable speaking time from 3 mins only

I dislike to speak so much exactly

[desert jasper]

So do I
Not a fan of speaking
But it's something you need to do anyway

[fierce moth]

Judd is my star on this area because every major update is introduced by him

[desert jasper]

Just like "Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games"

[fierce moth]

😂

[desert jasper]

Too bad we'll never hear that again

Also, got 3rd lab done with the volcanic fissure character
It's been pretty good so far

[sand wigeon]

What's wrong with speaking?

[twilit mountain]

We will never be the same again without Chris quips and Bex trolling :<

[blissful token]

Any one of you got access to Chrono Odyssey?

[twilit mountain]

idk what that is so no

[blissful token]

the soulslike mmo

[desert jasper]

My autism

[sand wigeon]

I don't think I understand

As in, you're typically nonverbal?

[twilit mountain]

That sounds like something I would play if I wanted to really not enjoy a video game

[sand wigeon]

In which case I do understand

[blissful token]

combat is #justsoulsthings but i wonder how it incorporates into mmo

[desert jasper]

Talking is just hard for me
I can talk, sure

[blissful token]

seemingly u can get into a party of 3? so its like nightreign?

but published by kakao games, so am sceptical about the game's future

[twilit mountain]

Talking (at least verbally) to people I don't know is really hard. And then if I end up under severe stress/anxiety I just can't speak, so I get it.

[sand wigeon]

Another thing to add to my list of "I don't think I have autism"

[desert jasper]

Like I'm not nonverbal
Hell, if I'm with people I trust I can talk about stuff all day long. as long as I've something that I know about

But random people I don't know about? Yeah sure I'll say hi and respond to questions but that's it really

[sand wigeon]

There's no difference to me

[desert jasper]

And it's a lot of work to actually talk to them normally

[sand wigeon]

Noted

[twilit mountain]

I have a new friend that I want to play stuff with but I'm struggling to get myself to invite them and I feel stupid because of it xdd

[desert jasper]

I can have all these things that I want to say
But my brain just goes "no, you're not saying that"

[sand wigeon]

I'm the same way, but I think mine is more just "I don't want to say that," versus "I can't say that."

[desert jasper]

Mine is more "can't say that"

Barely can tell my friends how important they are to me & how much they mean to me

[sand wigeon]

Friends? What are those?

[desert jasper]

Something you don't apparently have

[sand wigeon]

Obviously.

[fierce moth]

no news for access yet, unfortunately

[fierce moth]

maybe my access need to wait longer time

[blissful token]

restart your steam

i just got it

or maybe got it earlier but i didn't restart steam

[fierce moth]

oh!!!!!!

oh? Odd. No email...

but it's in my library now

[blissful token]

freakin game straight go for epic

dont burn my pc

[twilit mountain]

She's so mean to me

[blissful token]

Kirra gonna play a soulslike?

have fun

👀

[blissful token]

lmao

[fierce moth]

ohhhhhhhh! hah?

:((((((((

Give me my sorcerer!

[blissful token]

Assassin, Paladin also not available

you can only pick Swordsman, Berzerker, Ranger

[fierce moth]

ok I will pick ranger. no idea what berzerker is

[blissful token]

sad arse.. i would have picked zerker if he is wielding greatsword

greatsword falls on swordsman

[sand wigeon]

Turn him into a twink

He's like halfway there

[desert jasper]

Nah
Gonna make him buff

[twilit mountain]

Gender locked classes?

[blissful token]

guess not

[fierce moth]

download 40%. I should take a shower.

[desert jasper]

If I get access I'm gonna make a small woman with big hammer

[twilit mountain]

Oh good. Was gonna be weirded out if they did that in an MMO

[blissful token]

Lost Ark did

[twilit mountain]

Yes and Lost Ark is mid af but for many other reasons

[desert jasper]

I tried to give Lost Ark a go
it just felt bad right away

[muted parrot]

first time hearing about the game..tried a few MMOs lately but only got disappointed. So what's different with Chrono Odyssey except the high graphics?

[muted parrot]

same 😬

[blissful token]

this preset randomizer is having all these weird shiets

but damn, it looks bad on medium graphic setting

[desert jasper]

Need to get some fresh air tbh

[blissful token]

no idea.. but if u like soulslike, probably can try

but from what i saw on twitch

it feels like Blade & Soul's tab targeting

mix with Soulsgame

at least the camera in combat feels that way

[muted parrot]

souls-MMO? o.O

[blissful token]

typical endomorph,mesomorph, ectomorph?

[desert jasper]

Yeah
I'm gonna sit around at the hub and pretend to be npc
giving vague tips

and then just disappear after like 20h

[muted parrot]

maybe there are other combat settings. I saw that feature in one of the MMOs I tried that offers different combat camera angles and input settings

[blissful token]

make sure u provoke the player and make them hit you :>

gosh... how many hours are you gonna spend on this

[muted parrot]

zero? it's not gonna stay does it? Just a test so I wouldn't spend much time tbh :S

[desert jasper]

Thay looks a bit like Verso from claire obscur

[muted parrot]

or do you mean later on release?

[blissful token]

i mean all these modern character creation customization

all these colour code, sliders, details

👀

[blissful token]

i just picked a random preset, gonna customize

[muted parrot]

I love highly detailed character customization
but tbh..I don't wanna see such things like you posted with randomizer. It's breaking immersion and I do care for that, not wanting to see abominations in a MMO 😬

[fierce moth]

I'm in now

[twilit mountain]

Just don't look at other people

[blissful token]

omg its all sliders

i am not good at this

i prefer like mh

u pick a type and adjust abit

yes like this

the Face and Body is fully sliders and positions, i hate doing that

peepo is sooo gonna make a Guile out of this

[muted parrot]

is that you IRL?

[twilit mountain]

Incredible

[tawny sand]

reminds me of the slim jim ads with the guy with the tall head

[fierce moth]

their doll system have many insanely details...

I don't find where to adjust colour of my hair

[blissful token]

its under decoration tab

[fierce moth]

thanks hhhhhhhhhhhhhh this hair style...

[blissful token]

nuuuuu kirra nuuu

you are gonna make Theiliya leave

[muted parrot]

[twilit mountain]

Keep going, it's peak

[fierce moth]

glad to know I can swim here

[fierce moth]

Their air wall is special

[twilit mountain]

@mental talon guess what I just dropped

[desert jasper]

Garbage of the ephemeral

[twilit mountain]

Insane item this league

It's 6d minimum lol

[desert jasper]

Not surprised tbh

[muted parrot]

bow class

[mental talon]

Hell yeah

Easy + money

[muted parrot]

meanwhile me still alive and just found a opalescent oil that I wanted

[ebon meadow]

Ssf HC btw lol ,if it wasn't for my net issues I would start there to I only play it gauntlet and when I have nothing else to do

[muted parrot]

I'm doing one run every league for the challenge basically but Idk, this time I kinda like it more than usual. Maybe I'll do more than just one character..feeling the itch to try out different things I've never done before (most of the time following meta bc the game leans more heavily towards it) but taking it easy..I don't care for endgame bossing

[twilit mountain]

Painge, I don't think I can do Feared

[muted parrot]

I usually have net issues too but after day 2 patch or something it's really smooth for some reason. Still have bad frames when there is much going on like in delve, spooky in hc 🥹 but yolo 🤪

[fierce moth]

@blissful token I guess skill system will become one of the most interesting gameplay

[blissful token]

looks pretty straight forward

[fierce moth]

Go back to skill tree's moment

[mental talon]

Oh no

[ebon meadow]

Ohh apart from server things at launch my net just cuts of sometimes randomly

[twilit mountain]

I'll have to alt for it or smth. I don't accept carries xdd

[ebon meadow]

No one can figure the issue neither my company or people that I know that works with net

[twilit mountain]

That or just outscale it

[ebon meadow]

It's probably some smart ass trying to break my WiFi key lol been there done that

The fact they are running a key breaker for last 9 month or so is acknowledged lol fancy having a pc running key breaker for that long

[muted parrot]

sounds like pain 😞

[ebon meadow]

It gets really annoying when leveling , places that don't have a valuable tp point

Have to rerun the whole freaking zone

[blissful token]

man i kinda hate this

[fierce moth]

🤔 I'm enjoying skill system

[muted parrot]

that was my experience on day 2..wasn't playing much with that issue but that's fine for me as I don't care for trading and it's economy

[blissful token]

wonder when can i get a horse mount

[muted parrot]

a flying clown or abomination. No horses 😛

[blissful token]

there is a stable in town

[muted parrot]

that's just an illusion

[fierce moth]

[blissful token]

wow kirra found weird body floating

this game is so huge

feels like skyrim

u are given a quest marker and off u go

figure out how to cross this mountain etc

[ebon meadow]

Floating body or stretched pixels ? No ,not in an sandbox lmao

[fierce moth]

...I want to say why area I can free to run is quite small instead. Looks like I can't reach this location, air wall just appear once I go forward.

[blissful token]

lol u got those arrow icons

i am reaching my first boss

[fierce moth]

🤔 emmmmm... Enjoy. I'm done already.... All available areas have explored and level up my bow skills to lv6, character to lv4

Enemies ||are boring... Just single type here||, but I guess I can't afford this game when it's out even I enjoy the playtest

[muted parrot]

submit your speedrun!

[blissful token]

its a f2p

but whether there is p2w element, 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fierce moth]

I hope zero ptw

But their server is pay to upload pictures so hard to say

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CHRONOCBT Their survey for this playtest

[blissful token]

yea.. i will do it after testing for a while

[muted parrot]

hopefully just cosmetics and..battle pass is almost guaranteed nowadays 🫠

[blissful token]

the least i can do is.... talk

[fierce moth]

what the hell are these...😅 Nothing I met. Survey is submitted

[muted parrot]

red hair..reminds me of all of my characters when creation is a thing

[fierce moth]

I just practiced my bow skills for 2h

[twilit mountain]

All my characters end up purple-y

Lol

[muted parrot]

then you probably aren't finished 🤔

[fierce moth]

Wait wicked to tell me how to access them

[blissful token]

hmm?

i just got my sickle and is now harvesting pumpkin

good day for harvestin, ain't it?

[fierce moth]

I have these pumpkin but no idea how to cook and how to eat

||Zero architecture|| I seen in available areas for the playtest, a bit disappointed

[blissful token]

gotta progress the main story quest abit

[blissful token]

oh helll no..

[muted parrot]

that's the face of a hero who saves the world from evil!

[blissful token]

whew finally... the sword and shield parry window is pretty lenient

[muted parrot]

is this a trial or something like that? Or why does it look like all your skills are disabled? 🤔

[blissful token]

Its the first hurdle. The boss can 2 shot you

Cuz.... i have 0 active skills 😛. I picked dmg passive

[muted parrot]

interesting 🤔

[twilit mountain]

https://pobb.in/rcDoUYMJQjmu
@mental talon Behold, my genius /s

[mental talon]

Wait a minute

Is this a rerun I've seen this episode for 2 years straight

[twilit mountain]

Kek

No trust, this one's different, it uses a funny skill

[mental talon]

Oh yeah I haven't seen that one in action yet outside of on a Merc I think

[twilit mountain]

It should multi-hit?

[mental talon]

Assume it works like regular spec throw minus being a trap

I will tentatively say "Yes, maybe"

[twilit mountain]

If you decide to drop the VOTS it's super "easy" to get multi-hits on via with dropping the proj speed

[mental talon]

Too bad proj speed isn't on amulets anymore

You could make a funny one if it was with Mist

[twilit mountain]

Oh shit yeah they removed that didn't they

[mental talon]

Yeah on gloves now :/

[twilit mountain]

Suffering

[mental talon]

That and AoE :/

[twilit mountain]

What a terrible item to put that on

Gloves are already hyper-competitive, literally nobody is putting proj speed on them lmao

[mental talon]

Worse part is we lost the AoE levels on them too

So it's like get Life/ES and Armor and I guess Damage While Leeching. Yippee!

[twilit mountain]

They really did just nuke those mods from existence huh

[mental talon]

Yep I'm still kinda sad about it

[distant saddle]

short meme video i made for a friend, maybe some of you enjoy it too

[fervent hazel]

how do i get a job

meme but ive done everything, ;[

[fierce moth]

👀

Ok I missed a lot contents, go on playing that

[fierce moth]

oh I think I find the first boss but I have no idea where should I go to do this main quest now

😮 wow amazing. I just time travel and located in a different land

good job, my work can go on hhhh

[pine summit]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3789151 these tick over to the next twitch drops reward very very soon

[blissful token]

i think u wandered somewhere else 👀

the story boss is in a cave

press C and follow the light

[fierce moth]

I'm confused how to collect these materials...

[blissful token]

i only saw the mushroom so far

interesting.. if u slit the head of your bounty target you hang it at your waist

but look at my invisible arm

amazing game :P

[fierce moth]

I find the waterfall after you and I jump into that lol

[fierce moth]

I'm here finally

[fierce moth]

@blissful token Can you quick travel? I don't understand why I can't click the icon on map...

[blissful token]

you have to be at the stone to use the quick travel between stones

there is alot of walking unfortunately

but i think i am getting a horse mount soon

[fierce moth]

I'm here

I want to know how to get a horse too

[blissful token]

the horse quest npc is somewhere east of western vinetrap forest i think

[fierce moth]

You can use stone? Odd

[blissful token]

u press E on the stone and it will open the map

[fierce moth]

Cannot use during the combat.

hah?.... Why I'm in a combat?

[blissful token]

no idea, never occurred to me

[fierce moth]

emmm how to put my weapon down?

I see another players hang their weapon back but I can hold my bow only

[blissful token]

it shealth after a while of not attacking

[fierce moth]

lol...emmmmmm

[blissful token]

oof not stronk enuf

man the desync

i moved far away and still get damaged as if i stand there

[fierce moth]

I still no idea how to exit combat mode

[muted parrot]

Seems like I got accepted into the closed beta this morning

[blissful token]

game is like New World i think

but i never played New World

[fierce moth]

hah I can quick travel finally

[muted parrot]

Me neither 😬

[fierce moth]

🙃 Walk for another 30 mins but don't know where should I go to collect materials yet. Youtube is needed

the page is completely different...

[blissful token]

I just crafted the lv5 following the tutorial

And never touched it since

[fierce moth]

I asked that in their server, the answer isn't very clear unfortunately.

leather available from slain animals.
Woods available from random trees.
Arche available from salvage items or gathering.

Their wiki can find nothing.

I have no idea where to find animals must give me leather and no idea which item can give me arche or which environmental stuff I can collect arche by gathering

[pine summit]

NTE stream later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHSCNSFN-bo

[muted parrot]

I'm surprised this game has a wiki to begin with o.O
It's not even out, no wonder there isn't much info about it 🥴

[fierce moth]

ok I understand how to process materials and how to collect materials finally. I need to cut one more tree

Ok I can continue to shoot arrows happily :)

[fierce moth]

😅

👀 The first architecture I visited

[blissful token]

How do you get all the tools

Town npc quests?

I only got the sickle

[blissful token]

I never see them like that

Except for that waterfall dude quest

That is buggy as hell

[desert jasper]

Made it to maps
Oops, all my res is at like 20%

[fierce moth]

purchase them in town, 500 golds per one

so 2500 golds here

I wonder how to gain golds now

[blissful token]

I got the finishing rod from a frog quest

[muted parrot]

how is it? 🤔

it's really hard to make a good looking character ngl

[blissful token]

Ahh you went the asymetry iris colour

[muted parrot]

the sliders are crazy

[blissful token]

My char face is a flop

My mhwild char looks much better

[muted parrot]

I went even harder on asymetrical stuff but reverted it as it was too crazy 😄

meow? xD

[blissful token]

Go longer and be a 🦊

[muted parrot]

oh wow there is really a meow!

[blissful token]

How come we picked the same hair but yours look nicer

Hax

Is your luster (glow) very low?

[muted parrot]

yeah I don't like that, looks too unnatural to me

I also made it a bit black at the end

[blissful token]

Should have went your way

I like bright crimson red

But it looks kinda odd when u are playing

[muted parrot]

looks also very stiff in creation, hope it gets animated

[fierce moth]

Wicked, do you know photo mode available in game or not?

[blissful token]

No i havent seen it

I just walking around doing quests and bounties

But i am outside now

What is Theiliya playing?

Ranger?

I got rekt as a swordsman with greatsword

And then i rekt it after swapping to sword n shield

The parry is easy and good

[muted parrot]

unfortunately I can't play this game rn..it heats my room too much and I already changed the settings to mid 💀
First impression of combat: bow feels better than melee tbh and I really don't understand why all MMOs go with insane high cooldowns on skills so it's boring autoattacking most of the time 😴
too bad it won't cool down soon >.>

[blissful token]

Swordsman skills are rage based. I use the charged attach alot on greatsword

Charged attack is my special move

[placid yarrow]

Is Chrono any good? Seemed a little jank from the trailers and stuff

[blissful token]

Just so-so for me

[placid yarrow]

Any p2w?

[blissful token]

The game is not very good at telling you stuff and whr to go

[blissful token]

Still a closed playtest, i dont see cash shop

Its like New World i think

[muted parrot]

this was my final result btw. Not bad imo. If it'd be release then I'd have to go into more detail on face shape and body shape 😄

[blissful token]

But less polished for now

[placid yarrow]

New world wasn't bad monetization wise tbh

Yeah that's what I meant by jank, it seemed a little rough around the edges

But the ideas seemed okay

[blissful token]

Oh i mean the gameplay

[desert jasper]

Tried my first memory map
I got instantly wrecked by the totally not overtuned monsters

[placid yarrow]

I actually enjoyed new world at the beginning tbh, the dungeons were fun

It just fell off

[muted parrot]

it's just first CBT right? So it should take a while until release and hopefully gets better

[blissful token]

Way better than my stoic swordman.. my mouth is not nice and i am not good with sliders

[muted parrot]

how long does the CBT go? 🤔

[blissful token]

No idea

I just apply access yesterday and didnt look much into it

[muted parrot]

only two days 😮

💀

[blissful token]

We spent half day customizing char huh

[muted parrot]

guess I won't be able to test it out then..don't wanna live in a sauna 🥵

[muted parrot]

it was ~60 min for me 😅

[blissful token]

Help me with the sliders

[blissful token]

Makes me feel really bad about my man lol

[muted parrot]

character gets deleted anyway 💀

hopefully because they won't allow abominations at release^^
Either way, I'd be surprised if there isn't a wipe

[ebon meadow]

Nah it mostly be a wipe after a CBT specially if the launch is seasonal

Imagine starting along side people that already done the start and have stash and mats

A bit unfair

[desert jasper]

Too bad
Abominations is all I do

Like in dark souls 2 I made a character that looked like Shrek
it was 10/10

[muted parrot]

Sure, I can accept that in ds that has hidden story and no real mainstory + no open world players.
But what I really don‘t want to see are clowns and weird looking creations in story cutscenes or in a world I‘d like to immerse myself into.

[ebon meadow]

Like this ?

[blissful token]

I see Lost Ark

[ebon meadow]

Or this

[blissful token]

I see mokoko

[ebon meadow]

Let be real the slider for char creation is to make abominations for fun lol

[muted parrot]

Yeah, great examples 🤢

[ebon meadow]

Don't look up Ark survival evolved char they went way beyond with sliders lmao

At least Conan made slider for private parts lol

[muted parrot]

Why make a realistic MMO then if characters are clowns in a medieval world with magic elements? 🤨
Doesn’t make sense to me

[blissful token]

Isekai'ed

Kinds of remind me of the cult film army of darkness

[ebon meadow]

Good movie lol

Creativity is the thing they are there for but we as players just always go for dumb stupid looks for recognising I guess ,just want to be different...

But I do agree it does brakes an emerging of normality

Yet again it's just a game if u want to look like a hobo from street fighter then yea lol

[fierce moth]

hah more and more enjoy co now

ok so the first thing is ||find eye of insight to reveal a new area, then find the town in this area, repeat and repeat|| until all areas are revealed ✅

[ebon meadow]

Why does that map looks like D4 map lol

[sand wigeon]

Looks more like Elden Ring’s to me.

Even including the hilly forest area to the south and then a connecting area to the North West leading to a water area.

[ebon meadow]

People start lacking imagination for games lol world maps look like copy pasta from different games

[blissful token]

Eh kirra havent reach the citadel?

Its literally the roundtable in elden ring

[fierce moth]

wowww meet a boss by accident when I want to explore here

[blissful token]

Lol that void dude

[fierce moth]

?

I want to find someone to fight with this boss :(

[blissful token]

Dont you need to go to the citadel to talk to velia and then velia ask u to clear the chrono gate boss

[ebon meadow]

Asking for services in beta lol ,true gamer

[blissful token]

Ya correct, your main story quest tells you to find the stone to the citadel

Lol you havent clear the the thousandfold piercer boss

[fierce moth]

Hah... So this boss is from the main quest and I must kill it alone?

[blissful token]

I not sure if u can party for it

I did solo

And yes it is a story boss

[fierce moth]

[blissful token]

Feel the fun of soulsgame, Kirra

But the boss attack pattern is easy to remember

There arent many

[fierce moth]

wait, you mean the boss in citadel or the void one?

[blissful token]

In the cave

Inside the chrono gate

U have to talk to velia in citadel first

[fierce moth]

How to enter chrono gate? I don't what gate is it....

[blissful token]

Look behind

You have to go out of the citadel with the stone

U can travel back to town and go back to the cave

[fierce moth]

oh so it's not in the nave, thanks

[blissful token]

Remember the bottom of the waterfall?

[fierce moth]

hah... thanks

😵 I need go for a long walk

[ebon meadow]

Tsssk getting carried here

I m joking lol finding eater eggs and hidden mechanics is what keeps inside gaming going just sharing experience

[sand wigeon]

It’s not the visual appearance of the map, it’s a very similar world layout.

[ebon meadow]

It's not that for me it's the beige and grey layout ,the pathing can just be a coincidence

There's a limited thing you can do with pathing a game/world map so it easy to have same lines drawn as u path

[sand wigeon]

Color has nothing to do with the layout?

Nor does pathing have anything to do with what I said.

[ebon meadow]

They really don't it's just a perception not a mechanic

[sand wigeon]

I was only making a base comparison in that “similar area here, connecting area and then a similar area.”

It’s not anything substantial.

[ebon meadow]

Fair bit still just a coincidence I guess

[sand wigeon]

I didn’t say it was anything else.

[ebon meadow]

I was more talking how mmo,soul like and some Arpgs sharing the same world map theme lately

[ebon meadow]

Then I hooked on something in a convo that wasn't there lol sorry

[sand wigeon]

Obviously.

[fierce moth]

Yeahhhhh! Died 2 times

[ebon meadow]

Ggs ,you on controller right ? @fierce moth

[fierce moth]

what Setera is?@blissful token

[fierce moth]

yes

[blissful token]

I dont remember

[ebon meadow]

Xdd

[ebon meadow]

Soul likes for me is one of the things I prefer joystick over keyboard same for shooters

An exception for an arpg the Magic one I really liked controller

[fierce moth]

Oh... learn something...

[blissful token]

lol i guess it means return to our world Setera

since you were in the chrono gate just now

somehow i skipped chrono gate 2 and found chrono gate 3

i am sooooo not prepared for this

[fierce moth]

That's not easy to improve my average equipment score 🤔

I can't find any iron ore yet so I don't craft cloak

[blissful token]

my gear score is 4 lol

[fierce moth]

this is the best loot I get today, from a temple

lv 15 is the first gate in this game... many items can't be equipped before this level

[fierce moth]

I wore gears in 2 scores all day, just craft many advanced ones before go offline

This game is amazing to play after my playtime is more and more 🤔
But what I need to do immediately is find a horse...

10h milestone!
:)

[fierce moth]

Then I meet server issue and never can enter game again lol
Error: 204

[desert jasper]

I rerolled another character
this time it's skeleton mages

[fierce moth]

Find a new dungeon

[fierce moth]

@blissful token No idea how to calm a horse literally... They run too fast and the time they're standing is too short...

[blissful token]

Oh you found the horse quest

I am not there yet

[vagrant topaz]

LE ?

[desert jasper]

poe

[vagrant topaz]

Oh !

They got skeleton Mages too

[desert jasper]

They do
It's alternate quality gem for Summon Skeleton
there's summon skeleton
summon skeleton mages
and summon skeleton archers

Tbh it's probably my mercenary carrying me currently
instead of the skellies

[blissful token]

hmm i think i am pretty much done with CO

pretty janky

[fierce moth]

https://x.com/ChronoOdyssey/status/1936505626924130672
I guess because NA players capture EU servers, it force EU players escape to AS servers, so AS players must face high latency

Consistent maintenance for their NA servers

@gilded elm What are you think of Chrono Odyssey playtest?

I'm annoyed with their quest indications are too vague for me to understand what should I do, it's the biggest problem I found

Look like co have some influence, I'm thinking should I start my process of fan art or go on cyberpunk project

[blissful token]

Server stability is an issue but i mean the game in general is janky

It copies many element from other game too even the UI

The vague quest marker and 10,000 levels of map vertically (exaggerated) are the worst

Also i am not very fond of those crafting, harvesting, alchemy, logging stuff.

I smol brain and lazy with these things, biggest reason why i dont play sandbox survival games (raft, forest, dont starve, grounded, valheim etc). Soulsgame dont need these. The combat experience is the most important

[tawny sand]

does it have player crafting or something? I figured it would since it's a mmo

[blissful token]

Honestly, It doesnt live up to the hype it generated since early 2014

[blissful token]

Yea, you have access to all the "profession" stuff and it is a core element of the game to improve your gear or make potions

Very bless-ish and new world-ish

[pine summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLf0KSZjmqo

sonic racing

[fierce moth]

Jesus, the 2nd boss is quite hard

||flames, flame balls and flame rays damage you at first, you must turn on 2 switches, then you must run back to entrance to escape the corrupted stream||

[muted parrot]

Felt like an early version and there is much work to be done to release it.
(Gave it a second try on lowest setting which was fine)
But the only good thing I noticed were the cutscenes and in general the visuals of the setting. Everything else needs polishing especially combat

[blissful token]

there seems to be a phase 2 and phase 3 cbt

[muted parrot]

Do you mean they extended the duration?

[fierce moth]

You killed the 2nd chrono boss?

[blissful token]

yep

[blissful token]

no.. there will be more cbt

[fierce moth]

the annoying thing is I lack of health potions now because I don't collect enough herbs

[muted parrot]

I‘ve read somewhere that this is just a server stresstest which makes sense then why it’s so short

[blissful token]

u can buy the most basic potion with 100 gold at the general store

but the cooldown is the issue

that or u perfect evade with iframe

the leg storm, beam and orbs

they dont have the option to display helmet off

[muted parrot]

Makes sense. I also heard it’s supposed to release this year and if that’s the case, then I hope the cbt now is an earlier version and they are almost done polishing.
Because no way they release it like that 😬

[blissful token]

release is tentatively Q4 this year

phase 2 and 3 cbt 🤷🏻‍♂️

the director says there will be changes to UI

[muted parrot]

I don’t see how that’s going to work but well, wouldn’t be the first time a game releases unfinished
We will see. At least the cbt managed to get my interest in the game and that’s probably the main purpose besides server test and feedback

[fierce moth]

what cbt is

[muted parrot]

But tbh the chances of me playing an MMO for a long time are very very low because I hate how boring dailies are made and in general endgame grind is often not to my liking.

Cbt = closed beta test

[blissful token]

streamer shared the director said no daily tasks

[tawny sand]

i bought sonic racing transformed a while ago

that game slapped, actually interested in this one

[pine summit]

yeah past ones were great

if you want more racing stuff that other game i linked has a lot and is and f2p live service game

[fierce moth]

the room is too small so I always stuck on corner and can't escape, then I can't dodge the boss's attack, plus cooldown time is 50s after drunk a potion, my ending is death always

How Wicked kill the 2nd chrono boss...

100% chance to receive damage in the first phrase, dodge flame, orbs and beam because I have no idea how to dodge orbs and flame at the same time

.... What? what the combat is going after I passed the first loop, dodge flame/orbs/beam, activate 2 switches, then run back to the entrance to dodge corrupted water? Keep process this loop?

@blissful token I need help please

Oh ok I need to attack the boss after activated all switches. I selected to run back to the entreance

this combat is quite confusing

[blissful token]

yea

u turn the 2 switches, hit the boss while it is staggered, run back to the entrance when purification is happening, rise and repeat

i killed it after first loop

[fierce moth]

how to use class mastery point?

[blissful token]

hold e

[fierce moth]

My bow can't kill it in one loop :(

[fierce moth]

don't work

Maybe hold e on special page?

[blissful token]

its the 4th tree

after your 3 weapons

[fierce moth]

👌 thanks

I have no idea how to use enchantment points

[blissful token]

i got some of it but havent find out

i think it has to do with weapon/armor enchantment in town

🤷🏻‍♂️

i stopped playing

[fierce moth]

figured it out, they're enhance your chrono skills like temporal isolation

[blissful token]

oh right that stopwatch thingy

[fierce moth]

Need to go to citadel

[blissful token]

yea

thats whr you tune the stopwatch

[fierce moth]

🥱 I'm tired too. Close the game and take a nap. Don't want to play it more today because I need to find leathers and iron orbs to upgrade my gears, it's a long-term work...

[muted parrot]

I think the beta ends at the end of the day today 🤔

[blissful token]

i did all that and then the blacksmith tasked me to get 15 primitive ores and i can only get it from portal which requires key

am lazy

[blissful token]

it ends 3pm my time tomorrow, so its ~21hrs from now

[muted parrot]

alright, time for Kirra to become pro player then

[fierce moth]

oh alright so I'm impossible to reach lv15 :)

[fierce moth]

The playtest last 2 days only... Alright, I go back to my learning for how to become an environment artist

No necessary to make fan art until it's released.

I can't stay in their server after the playtest because I don't have money to keep discord nitro so I can't post pictures and videos. But I joined their subreddit and follow their twitter.

[fierce moth]

I agree with that, quests and the 2nd Chrono boss combat is a disaster. 🤔 Hard to say will I get one after it's released, it's better to keep an eye

Find iron orbs and herbs drove me into mad because I don't know where are their biomes. The open world is quite big without a horse.

[fierce moth]

Why this biscuits is so sweet...😣 Even more sweet than the puffed food with milk flavour I liked

I think I will be sleepy if I ate two biscuits once time

I need to purchase some tea tomorrow 💀

Crunch, crumble, then melt-in-the-mouth

Yeah chocolate's flavour covered by sugar completely

[blissful token]

too much blood sugar and food coma-inducing

[fierce moth]

I'd like to salty snacks indeed. Chewing my lay's classic flavour chip now

[blissful token]

i just had medium sized lay classic just now lol

though i dont think lay is any superior.. its more expensive

[fierce moth]

🤔 emmmmmm? (I'm surprised that reference for their temple is so easy to find)

Then the most valuable part is their world concept. The temple is combine with the story background so it's for CO only

[fierce moth]

The most frustrating thing on painting is happened. Deep blue is ran out within the progress... My plan is use the same palette to give these sketches colours 🙃

[desert jasper]

Was wondering why my Chaos Golem dies instantly on summon
realized oh right, Fleshcrafter and the chaos golem has high chaos res so all the hp is just converted to ES

[fierce moth]

Checked out the order, I received the marker pen package in 18/12/2022, the price is ￥35.96 only, make sense... Cheap marker pen + 3 years, 60 colours only

The latest version of marker pens is acrylic, mine is oil

Ok use installment to pay touchmark acrylic marker pen, 80 colours

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_ejTiIcSs
I'm quite moved and even drop my tears while I watched the latest video from Mr.Beast.
🙏
Wish Jesus blessing this coach, and this poor man.

I'm sure the achievement this man gained will inspire lots of people. This twist just quite unexpected and sad...

[desert jasper]

Mr beast...
Yeah sure, I could do that too if I had a friend that paid for all the food + training and made me a gym

I did that without any of that actually

[fierce moth]

Maybe I can....Push myself from speak something out on a book clearly 3/4/5/6/7/8 mins.

Train myself how to speak.

[desert jasper]

Maybe
You should first write your thoughts on something and then read that out
So it sounds more prepared and like you know what you're speaking about

[fierce moth]

emmmm but I have nothing to speak...

[gilded elm]

Today is the last day of the closed beta and only 14 people are watching it on the most popular Korean streaming service. I think that says everything lol

Granted it's 9am on a Monday in Korea, but still, it wouldn't be this dead if it was even half decent lol

Looks like it's dead on Twitch too. This pretty much aligns with my own experience, I didn't have fun.

[narrow token]

Same. I only gave the game ~45m total before I quit. The game feel is just really awful.

[gilded elm]

I think it's redeemable. There's a foundation for a good game there, but there's just too many bad things right now. Game needs to cook for another year or two.

[narrow token]

I feel like the basic combat fundamentals need serious work. And the floaty movement animations don't help.

[blissful token]

Maybe you can stream your art or games here in discord

Or Twitch

[blissful token]

The CO discord started a suggestion channel

Got bombarded as expected

Someone even posted a thread for the dev to delay the launch of the game 2 years later, saying the current beta test is more like an alpha

[blissful token]

@fierce moth this is your moment

[muted parrot]

The game got plenty of attention through twitch. On the first day I remember 30k viewers and yesterday it was still 10k.

But I agree that the game shouldn’t release this year if it wasn’t a really early version and they‘re further into polishing than it seemed.

[pine summit]

i think a lot of these mmo's just stroll up and assume they'll do great just as theres been no real decent lasting new mmo's in forever

not realizing thats because the market has shifted to open world gacha etc stuff like NTE or genshin or whatever

...of course, id still prefer mmo's but

they have to be really special to stand out

most of what we get is korean p2w ones too which doesnt help

[fierce moth]

Art is amazing but... Alright I will say it's because of UE5 itself.
This is the only advantage I can find but unfortunately it's not valid after anyone learnt ue5 a bit more

Nothing relevant to gameplay is impressive indeed

[blissful token]

That number is actually low for the hype. Usually this kinda thing get 100 -150k viewers on Twitch at least

[blissful token]

More anticipated ones like mhwild and poe2 had 300 - 400k viewers

Imagine GTA 6

[fierce moth]

Ok it promise I can post my art without Nitro so I can stay here longer. So I can do that anytime, which it mean it's fine to complete cyberpunk art at first :)

Poe 2 's influence is massive yeah

[blissful token]

Bruh...

I feel cursed and envious looking at the gallery channel

There are abominations and also well made characters

🥲

@muted parrot teach me how to use sliders

[pine summit]

for chrono oddyssey most stuff ive been seeing has been people saying it copied new world verbatim in places

https://youtu.be/rP3Qp7DbHMc?t=675 and i dont mean taking inspiration, thats fine ofc, like how this has clearly took inspiration from GTA and NFS and a bunch of other stuff

i mean literal 1:1 same forts etc

but i didnt play new world

so idk how accurate they are

[blissful token]

This is hella funny.

Context: the CM there (particularly CM Jenny) loves duck and have many duck emotes in the server. The OP posted a picture hunting ducks

[blissful token]

Same

[pine summit]

only one i felt had real potential recently was lost ark

and that turned out to be a horrific mess

at endgame etc

[fierce moth]

🤔 This MMO youtuber post nothing about CO

[pine summit]

by the time new mmo's are out stuff like nte might have a lot of permanent multiplayer modes too

its already starting with full racing ones

with full car, motorbike customization

gta wanted level stuff

[mental talon]

@twilit mountain Bedge time. I'll make flasks in the morning

[pine summit]

vehicles handling differently based on weather etc

like i dont like why mmo's have messed up so much

but i get where the industry is likely heading

[fierce moth]

the most rare belt if I don't remember it wrongly?!

[pine summit]

honestly id put most of it on mmo's not trying to be original and struggling to deal with the 10+ years of content older ones have

not on like mobile influence etc

but ofc this will also apply to stuff like nte if new mmo's come out

and yes, nte isnt an mmo, thats the point im making though

mostly singleplayer live service stuff with permanent side multiplayer modes can stack up a lot of content in the 3 years before new mmo's or so

let alone later ones

do i wish it was different and we still got full mmo's sure

but gotta go with what we get

the game industry is very confusing atm - xbox has largely given up, so sony has gotten lazy as a result

[mental talon]

One of yeah

[pine summit]

nintendo is just doing their own thing targeting an entirely different market

so theres like 0 competition to push them to improve

[fierce moth]

If CO want to follow new world... Holy Jesus, the game is too expensive

I can buy 2 pckages of 120 colours touchmark marker pens and some money left even with the budget for standard edition only.

[gilded elm]

New World is a dead game, so fortunately doubt they're trying to follow in those footsteps lol

[fierce moth]

🤔 I need to go to location of the reference again to record more details...

(just start the project)

[fierce moth]

https://x.com/ChronoOdyssey/status/1937044781647208661
CO's playtest is ended!

[blissful token]

Yea they say will focus on movement, combat, animation, and UI

[muted parrot]

you move them left to right and see what looks best 😅

[blissful token]

I did and i am not satisfied with the end result

[muted parrot]

problem is the sliders and options are too wide and massive on impact so it's really hard to make a good looking human. On the other side it's very easy to make abominations because of that.
Like I said..I hope they change that, customization could be great if they set clear limits

[muted parrot]

If you would have looked at my character closely, you prolly wouldn't be satisfied either (I wasn't but it was just beta) because I was messing around at the beginning and it got just worse.
I just made sure it looks good on screenshot, also the hair was covering it up a bit

would be cool to have generated codes to share character presets like in nioh2

[muted parrot]

I think it's fine because it's just a beta after all. And I haven't heard about the game so imo it was good to advertise even if it wasn't that great, at least people know it exists and if it's really ftp, people will test it out no matter if they continue to work on it or not. Release is the most important one. I just hope they don't rush it because of publisher wants it released even if it's not finished

[blissful token]

I looked up close on my char from the side, the nose omg. The lips are not what i want either. I spend enough time there, dont wanna spend further so i just yolo (knowing it will haunt me back after some time)

[blissful token]

Some say the beta uses the same build they had in feb test (which is unbeknownst to me, might be korea only), so there's alot of stuff already being worked on and can be seen in phase 2 and future tests

[muted parrot]

I often leave nose default so I don't mess it up 😅
Lips are tough as well and there weren't many options to shape them tbh

[muted parrot]

heard that as well and that's why I have some hope that even if it releases this year, it might feel much better than the beta..hopefully.
But tbh, what I'm most concerned about regarding MMOs is how fun it is after a while because imo that's where almost all fail.
Throne and Liberty for example was fun until lvl 30, then it was horrible. Dailies were boring and enemies had too much hp so it took a while to do them, quests got lengthy all of a sudden and boring as well and dungeons were really hard for the first time but then just rushing through as fast as possible but I guess that's a typical MMO mentality nowadays, wasn't this crazy back in the days when I was playing WoW as a teenager^^

[blissful token]

I had alot of fun with Lost Ark (finished like 80% of all horizontal progression content and gotten the faster ship to sail) until the Legion Raid.. spending 6 hours progging and some team just cant do it. There is also problem coordinating time as people are all over the timezone. The grind and p2w/pfc aspect is soooo bad when legion raid content releases. If you missed out for the week and the raid resets.. oof

For mmo soulsgame, i am still waiting for soulframe

[muted parrot]

🤢 LA 😬

[blissful token]

I collected like 1.1k mokoko 🤢

[muted parrot]

another one I've never heard of..guess I'm just not into MMOs and get no info outside of steam.
Looks better than CO ^^

hopefully not as complicated to play as warframe 😬

[blissful token]

Well if you heard of Warframe, its one of those looter shooter i guess

Ahh u know

Warframe complicated?

[muted parrot]

imo yes, was horrible on M/kb 😅
Also gameplay didn't vibe with me. But I've heard many good things about it and there is an insane amount of hours to play if you like it..everything for free, that's crazy. Dunno if it's true free to play or like PoE where you need at least ~30€ investment for stash but even if, that's fine

[blissful token]

I had 500+ hrs iirc

Some frames are vault locked but iirc, there is vault rotation every week or couple of weeks for you to purchase them using the premium currency/in game currency

There are players that are willing to trade premium currency if u get them the item ( you grind the same map for it ) they need

Also you dont need very single frames, its more like a collection unless u really like certain abilities of that particular frame

[muted parrot]

yeah I heard that you can grind everything but I'm not the person to do the same content over and over for one big goal. Either way, I gave up on it after the first few missions..I remember to explore the open world for the first time but is was weird, big map but not much to do and no clear goal what to do outside of missions..it was a weird experience. Coop content wasn't fun as all just rush through the huge areas I don't even know and solo experience wasn't that fun for me.
Overall bad beginner experience imo

[tawny sand]

warframe is a bit overwhelming for new players yeah

also i hated the stealth missions

rest of the game was fun though

[blissful token]

I didnt do much with the open world thingy, i engage alot on the planet maps

Hopefully soulframe will be something

[muted parrot]

I'm sure it can be fun, it just didn't click with me

I was super excited about the open world at first but it disappointed me on many levels, maybe that was the main reason I abandoned the game soon after

[tawny sand]

i would recommend PSO2 New Genesis for its open world stuff, but sega dropped the ball hard

and it's not as good as the original pso2 imo

[blissful token]

NGS is pretty but yes, its so sad

They bring back mining base i think

[tawny sand]

i liked the original pso2's self contained mission structure too much

it's depressing cause they finally brought it to the west, and then a year later did new genesis and it flopped

[blissful token]

Ikr

[muted parrot]

yeah I feel like many MMOs are dropping but are not really supported well then >.>

[tawny sand]

i liked the life skilling in black desert, but it's very grindy so

i didn't keep up with it

[blissful token]

I didnt play BDO

They are making Crimson Desert but not much news?

[tawny sand]

yeah idk

[muted parrot]

bdo where 80% of the gameplay is you going from a to b 😄

[tawny sand]

crimson desert isn't an mmo though

[muted parrot]

no teleporting^^

[tawny sand]

they added fast travel in bdo, but you have to do a bunch of quests to unlock it

[muted parrot]

I mean it's interesting at first but also boring if you know the world already

[desert jasper]

what's wrong with Link's Awakening?

[tawny sand]

and it's only between these wells on the map

[desert jasper]

[muted parrot]

lost ark was the topic 😄

[desert jasper]

ahh right, right

[muted parrot]

tbh combat was fun while leveling in bdo but endgame grinding was just 😴
Also gambling for upgrades was absolutely horrible. I know that's the deal and you're one of the cool guys if you have that +77 equip but getting there is so painful
I also liked the many classes and playstyles.

[tawny sand]

the new player servers are better and easier to get gear on, but it caps at a point cause you're meant to migrate to the normal servers but you don't have to

but yeah it's very grindy

[muted parrot]

yeah I was playing on such a server back then, I think that was the time they got introduced. It was nice to gear up (couldn't imagine it without those rewards) but wasn't enough to keep me playing past the insane grind wall that is the last levels and the endgame gear grind

[tawny sand]

if you want a game with a great character creator there's always city of heroes homecoming

[muted parrot]

🤨

so many games I've never heard of 😄

[tawny sand]

it's great, you can get really detailed with your superhero

[blissful token]

Genre?

[tawny sand]

it is a traditonal tank/dps/healer trinity game though but you can get really customizable

mmo

[muted parrot]

eh I'm not vibing at all with those superhero games 😬

[tawny sand]

fair

[blissful token]

Same

[tawny sand]

i can't think of any big mmos coming out now

there was blue protocol but now it's a gacha game or something? i don't understand what happened to it

[gilded elm]

City of Heroes was basically the OG superhero MMO. To this day, I don't think there's any game of the same genre that actually accomplishes what it did. Shame the original game got shut down.

[tawny sand]

homecoming is a private server that's officially recognized by ncsoft (or is it nexon? i forget)

so there's that option

[gilded elm]

Yeah, seems to be an officially licensed private server. So it's basically legal continuation of the game.

Not sure if it gets major updates though, doubt it

[tawny sand]

it gets some i think

idk how big they are though

[muted parrot]

BP got canceled but revived by another company, it's now blue protocol star resonance and had a beta a few weeks ago I think 🤔
Store page says release this year.
Tbh from what I've seen from the game, it looks like it could be fun but same question for me as with every other MMO: how long is it fun?
But I'll 100% try it out at release 🙂

I think the only gacha is cosmetics and tbh the characters aren't looking too good so I don't care for cosmetics. But we will see how it is.
There is also rumors that the devs made a decision on more monetization but I don't believe it as it's not official

[tawny sand]

oh i see

if the outfits are gacha i assume it's like pso2's monetization

is the new vindictus game an mmo? i couldn't figure it out

[muted parrot]

steam store page is up if you wanna check it out. Also they have finally a website that is looking good as well with the classes (I like the scythe one!)

[blissful token]

Oh yea the new vindictus

📝

[tawny sand]

it seemed like it had a hub system, but you do missions solo? i didn't understand

i prob should've checked out the test but oh well

[blissful token]

Share here if u know when's the test

So many things, hard to keep up

[desert jasper]

oh man
I liked pso2 until they started pushing those revealing outfits constantly

[blissful token]

My friend stocked up on the breast pads

[fierce moth]

Hah damn 🥵 I need AC

[desert jasper]

Hah
Friend suggested I get them
But I was playing the robot so why

[blissful token]

Is that how kowloon walled city looks like?

[desert jasper]

Though I do admit that it was a female model but still

[tawny sand]

test already went

it was last week i think

[blissful token]

Oof

[muted parrot]

unfortunately that's the future it seems..making money through spicy cosmetics and designing characters that appeal to many >.>

[blissful token]

Lookie at Stellar's Blade?

Peepo wanted haram halal mod

[desert jasper]

Appealing to many is fine

[tawny sand]

stellar blade is fun

[muted parrot]

no lookie, just ignorie/blockie on steam 😅

[gilded elm]

I do love me some hot characters in my video games

Might try Stellar Blade because it's also apparently a good game as well, not just a good packaging

[muted parrot]

sure but I hate when it's so obvious

[gilded elm]

I don't mind, sometimes I might even prefer it. Nothing wrong with a nice gooner game IMO

[tawny sand]

tbh it's average, but it's a good average

i'm almost done with my second playthrough

[gilded elm]

Yeah, seems to be the vibe I've been getting. Good, but not exceptional gameplay.

Might wait to grab it on sale

[tawny sand]

try the demo for sure

but yeah it's my "Mad Max" of the year, just a solid average game

also side note, but the new victoria 3 update/dlc goes hard

it's very good

[blissful token]

Whats the Mad Max

[tawny sand]

It's a game based on the mad max films

[gilded elm]

Not many gooner games end up being "good" games at least in my opinion, so it's nice to have some.

It's usually one or the other. Either it's a good game without the fan service, or it's just a fan service game with shitty gameplay.

[tawny sand]

mad max was a game that was overall average, but very good average

so whenever we get solid average games i call them mad max games

[blissful token]

Oh really?

[tawny sand]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/234140/Mad_Max/

it uses the best version of the arkham batman style combat imo

[blissful token]

Oh i thought you mean stellar is tied to mad max

I know mad max

[tawny sand]

oh sorry no

i meant that it's quality is on the same tier as Mad Max game for me

but yeah stellar blade's narrative isn't too good, apparently they wanted to do more but budge constraints

but there's a sequel planned so if they can nail the narrative i think it'd be a good game

[blissful token]

Is it one of those soulsstyle of narrative inside a cookbook

Or really its just not good

[tawny sand]

nah it's told directly and deliberately with cutscenes

it's just pretty meh

[blissful token]

I think lies of p's still acceptable

Havent check out overture tho

[tawny sand]

i liked lies of p's

i did not beat it though

i'm admittedly not a big souls fan

and stellar blade is kind of not really one? It's just an action game really, but it does have camps that respawn bosses

i found it pretty easy

not bosses, sorry. enemies

bosses don't respawn

there is a boss challenge mode though

[blissful token]

Like sekiro gauntlet?

[tawny sand]

didn't play sekiro so dunno

[fierce moth]

Hah enter subway, I'm live...

[fierce moth]

Very similar to HK indeed

No idea why are they admired this type of aesthetic because it's quite hot, dark and dirty for living in

[blissful token]

Admired? I think its land constraint. They have to build buildings near to each other so eventually becomes a concrete city

[fierce moth]

On the way for grabbing two ice cream balls.
Creamy strawberry flavor & Oolong tea flavor

[fierce moth]

Yeah they're not experience how hard to live in a small and dark room under summer so maybe they think these architecture looks fantastic

All rooms of historical architectures in Guangzhou are follow this layout, dark, small and hot under current conditions

[blissful token]

Copium

I dont understand why i still picked yes when they asked if i will play CO again 😂

Based on the feedback i gave them

[fierce moth]

First time to see truffle flavour appear on... Chips

[muted parrot]

I don't think it matters, that's just a filler question that is in every survey. Important are those that can convey the problems players have to the devs so they can do something about it or at least it's in the room for internal discussion.

[fierce moth]

I want to play CO if it's not a ptw MMO

Due to work they need to do on improving the game, 2026 is the year it's available I guess

[desert jasper]

@ember lake Shame that it looks so bad in the screenshot
running on lowest settings

[ember lake]

We've still come a long way though 😅 (Frozen Tuna from Dark Cloud)

[desert jasper]

Some earlier monster hunter games have also had fish weapons
Like I think one had a lance..?

[blissful token]

we have dual fish sabre

[desert jasper]

oh, we do? in wilds?

[blissful token]

world

[desert jasper]

Oh
yeah
I think Rise had a lance
or maybe some of the earlier ones

Tbh I think the greatsword was also in World

Ah
Apparently Monster Hunter (the first one) had a plunger lance with toilet seat as the shield

called "Vacuum Striker"

[ember lake]

Superb

[ember lake]

W..wouldn't it make more sense to hold the tail and do damage with the pointy end?

[blissful token]

well, we dont pierce dmg in mh unless you are using bowgun . Even lance do "sever" dmg

so the tail sever better than the pointy end :P

mh logik

[muted parrot]

guess they made it like that to not have to worry about changing the animation or grip on the handle as it's similar to other weapons 🤔
But actually no idea if that's true

[candid sage]

hmmm. me thinks imma die tomorrow. XD

[desert jasper]

Tomorrow is rainy & max +14C here

[sand wigeon]

What’s the humidity?

[candid sage]

70%

[sand wigeon]

That is rough, wow.

[fierce moth]

WHAT?

What's wrong on this weather.... Why it can be so hot

[desert jasper]

ez
so we can suffer

[fierce moth]

we're the raw meat wait to be grilled, for the nature

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KDqEi8hlEQ
I heard glass fruit ASMR is extreme popular recently. Their contents are AI-generated "a knife can cut everything".

[pine summit]

not the same game

its not a revival per se

tencent made a deal to make an overly simplified stripped down mobile version

the deal was just to use the graphical assets etc, not the mechanics

[fierce moth]

mobile games 🤔

[pine summit]

so its a worse version on top of it having the previous version's fast eos hanging over it

[fierce moth]

oh 3A game. Make sense on I never hear that.

So CO is published by a mobile game company... Then it's very hard to say will CO become another ptw MMO exactly. Game companies which focus on mobile games will not give up this option usually...

[twilit mountain]

Apparently it's only 88° with 54% humidity here but... I can feel the moisture around me in the air, it's gross

[candid sage]

yeah. its pretty rough when you arent used to it. i grew up in Florida so it was always super hot and humid. but, i moved a bit north a while ago and this is very unnatural and going to be miserable

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3218230/ArcheAge_Chronicles/
Another MMORPG published by kakao games, seems that this game have less influence because no playtest yet?

lol the contrast is huge

[twilit mountain]

ArcheAge was an MMO that got shutdown a good while ago after a rather severe decline following more and more egregious monetization.

So not a good look here

[fierce moth]

do you mean RMT?

[twilit mountain]

I spent 7 years in NC, which can be rather humid but not for extended periods and usually only following like, a storm or smth. I've been in Maine for just shy of two years and like... whoof, it's humid all the time here.

[twilit mountain]

No, I mean monetization.

RMT is players paying each other for in game stuff. Monetization is the company putting skins, features, perks, etc behind an in game cash shop.

[fierce moth]

ohhhhh I guess you mean that common monetization in mobile games

[candid sage]

Maine is small enough and has enough coast I could see that...esp if its gettin near 90 there. thats crazy that far north. i moved north and inland away from FL to get away from this kinda weather, lol

[twilit mountain]

Yeah that's what Dream's explanation has been, there's not much distance to the coast from pretty much every major residential area in the state so there's shockingly high humidity through the summer.

Tomorrow is supposed to hit 99°

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/chronoodyssey/comments/1li4uv1/can_i_copy_your_homework_yeah_just_make_sure_you/
@blissful token @muted parrot oh damn. Classic copy from Korean. Ok I will not play CO's release 🫡

It's a shameful way to make a game.

[sand wigeon]

Tomorrow is stabbing me repeatedly with a dull blade so when I die it was because of Tomorrow

[fierce moth]

I'm looking forward to Amazon games do something to stop this way from CO instead

[sand wigeon]

It’s not actually a copy, these are very widely used MMO mechanics.

[fierce moth]

oh I mean their logic on environment art

[sand wigeon]

That’s definitely not copied, I’ll be frank

They’re really cropped, just to try and make comparisons, and all of the things pointed out as copied are generically going to be similar

Additionally, it’s all screenshots from outside the current playable area, which means they’re specifically not meant to be interacted with

[fierce moth]

oh so any games can follow your logic on environment art but you can't stop them to do so... 😢

Use different assets with different colours are fine

[twilit mountain]

No, Kirra, what's happening is that they're trying to use unfinished ( <- this is a very big point) areas that are specifically framed to look similar without showing the whole picture.

[fierce moth]

Unfinished areas?

[twilit mountain]

Yes. All of those screenshots are from areas that are meant to be inaccessible. They're outside the bounds of the beta, people just found a way to get past the barrier.

[fierce moth]

oh so they're sketches. Then it's reasonable that they're looks similar

[muted parrot]

Oh wow I've seen this one just now too xD

also I have researched a bit more and it seems the cbt really was an earlier version and they are further into polishing than the cbt, basically promising that the next cbt will be better

[blissful token]

well i didn't play New World. Will still try out phase 2, 3 and release

[twilit mountain]

Playtests are usually old builds yeah. (I playtest things a lot, it's fun to me)

[blissful token]

and i did mention about this

[muted parrot]

but I still don't believe it'll release this year then..cbt's usually come with several months gaps because obviously dev time involved

[blissful token]

we will see how far they developed the game in phase 2

then we can gauge better

i am still not keen on the life's skills and professions kinda thing

that leave a bad taste in my mouth

[fierce moth]

I improved all life skills to lv2 before I left lol

[blissful token]

same except fishing

i just crafted all the lv 5 equipment then i left

[fierce moth]

oh... forget that

I don't know how to fish because I never see a fish...

[twilit mountain]

I didn't get to test really. I was gonna and then a friend asked to play some Battlefield together

[blissful token]

nah... you just cast the rod and wait for the "..." to reel in.. there is no real fishing there

[blissful token]

I think thats a better choice 😉 . That CBT is very rough anyway

[twilit mountain]

You underestimate how much I enjoy just watching TV while doing something tiny in the background

[blissful token]

when i logging mature tree or mining big ore deposit

i just alt tab lmao

i think it takes like 25-30s ish to complete

[twilit mountain]

Basically RuneScape xdd

[muted parrot]

is it like skyrim ores?
I'm always like 😴

[blissful token]

i was dumb last time so i didn't last long with skyrim

so i dont really know

[twilit mountain]

I just don't like Skyrim. Or really any of the series. Or most of Fallout.

[muted parrot]

basically just an animation that plays for ~4 seconds but enough for me to fall asleep as it's absolute zero gameplay, just click then yawn

[blissful token]

I never played any of the Fallout

[sand wigeon]

I have played every Bethesda game

[blissful token]

it gave me the impression of Front Mission?

[sand wigeon]

Of what?

[blissful token]

idk.. you pick a spot to shoot

[twilit mountain]

I like Fallout 1. And 76. That's really it. I just dislike the "Bethesda RPG" style of game really, they feel suuuuper dead to me without other players.

[sand wigeon]

I like them :>

[blissful token]

i have only played Dishonored

making sure no bodies get eaten by plague rats or bodies from falling to death was a pain

[twilit mountain]

Dishonored is an immsim, so very different genre. Great game though.

[desert jasper]

I really enjoyed Dishonored 1
Though I'm still kinda annoyed my no kill run got ruined by a sleep dart in optional thing

[sand wigeon]

I meant games produced by Bethesda

I can’t say I’ve played every game published by Bethesda, I’m not sure there.

But yes, Dishonored is amazing.

Okay, post 2010 I have played every Bethesda published game except VR titles and Doom: The Dark Ages

[fierce moth]

oh ohhh? Little nightmares 3 will be revealed after 1h 36 mins

Remind of I don't follow this game on x and steam yet

oh wait. Tomorrow.

To be honest, I know what PST mean only. Another time are unknown

[sand wigeon]

You can just look up converters

[fierce moth]

lol... I purchased them only. I even don't understand how to play a level in little nightmares (bad at searching paths)

[muted parrot]

News!

[candid sage]

and here i thought getting a 3 div eater shrine was a good luck day...

by far the best item i have ever dropped

[twilit mountain]

GG. That's like 70d.

[candid sage]

yeah its insane

[twilit mountain]

It's quite literally the best shield to exist in the game (outside of mirror tier triple synth shenanigans ig), genuinely a broken af item

[candid sage]

it almost makes me want to reroll

almost

[twilit mountain]

You don't even need to most of the time, just do a bunch of tweaking to get block setup and it works

[candid sage]

yeah but i just got this build done. lol

[twilit mountain]

Kek, fair enough

[fierce moth]

Receive the respond from him finally, alright I need to learn how to make landscapes by a modular architectural set so I need to know how to make modular model set at first...

[fierce moth]

ok, let me see how many steps I can learnt in a day with my current skills (?/39)

[fierce moth]

I like this title by the way hhhhh

[fierce moth]

The pain is moved from my brain to my potato chips 😭
I ate 1/2 last night and 1/2 is consumed this afternoon

Hard to stop myself away from crispy and salty stuff 😔

[fierce moth]

2025 pre-students for Chinese universities and colleges start to get their scores and a new wave of talented people will go to school soon

For me, gap year will +1. Nothing is changed

[fierce moth]

@forest sparrow which ai-generated picture you post?

(post it here is allowed)

[desert jasper]

It wasn't a pic but a song

[fierce moth]

I'm done! Fantastic journey it brought.

https://elevenlabs.io/v3
🤔 AI is capturing voice area too. Maybe more and more voices we heard from dialogues in games in the future will be generated by AI.
It give small indie teams more choices of course, help them to craft a game they want.

My ears are wooden so I can't recognize the difference between real human and AI indeed

(I tried Japanese, Korean, French, Finnish, Danish, Chinese and English, only English and Korean is excuted well)

[maiden widget]

its immediately noticeable in german on youtube

they autotranslate now and its horrible

[desert jasper]

I saw some finnish AI vid
It was noticeable in the first words

[fierce moth]

10/2018 - 03/2019 Eastworks Studio --- environment concept art
04/2019 - 08/2021 Games farm --- From junior position to principal environment concept artist, also for 3-4 month I was doing level design in Unity.
09/2021 - 10/2021 Cassagi Studio --- Worked on Age of Pyramids, Environment artist, and also I did Illustration for cover of the game.
10/2021 - 01/2022 One Pixel Brush --- Environment Concept Artist, various projects, from small to big ones.
01/2022 - 02/2022 Puppet Works Animation Studio --- Worked on background art on Destroy all humans 2 cinematic trailer.
02/2022 - 02/2022 Lich Studio --- I did key illustration for project Cold Engines.
02/2022 - 03/2022 Eset --- Key illustration for next PC security system.
03/2022 - 12/2022 West Studio --- Worked as Illustrator/environment concept artists on project LAX and another project.
01/2023 - 08/2023 Karakter Design Studio --- Worked on Wonder women game as environment artist, game isn't out yet.
09/2023 - 12/2023 One Pixel Brush --- Environment artist on unannounced movie title .
12/2023 - 01/2024 Moon Colony --- Worked on World of Warcraft: The War Within and Diablo Immortal as environment concept artist.
02/2024 - 03/2024 Puppet Works Animation Studio --- Worked on background art on V Rising cinematic trailer.
03/2024 - 03/2024 Blinkink --- Worked on background art on Paralympics 2024 comercial
04/2024 - present Karakter Design Studio --- Working as senior environment concept artist
09/2024 - 09/2024 Envar Studio --- Worked on unannounced project as Illustrator/Environment Concept artist
09/2024 - present Karakter Design Studio --- Working as senior environment concept artist

Copy from https://www.artstation.com/nagypal.

Damn Is it real that the world is hard to find a job? This artist is quite successful on his career...

lol make sense that it looks quite familiar

[fierce moth]

https://heyzine.com/flip-book/a211d0686e.html#page/11
lol this is the most amazing project introduction and elaboration I seen.
Project Quantum, a AAA MMOFPS, aim at over than call of duty's scale on market size, want to build a play-to-earn community all over the world, based on crypto, come from Dubai, United Arab Emirates

It looks like 100x maximum the trade in poe and cover the trade website with a "AAA MMOFPS" skin

[twilit mountain]

based on crypto
It's dead on arrival.

[gilded elm]

Yep, there isn't a single video game that I know of which is based on crypto/blockchain that is actually successful.

[desert jasper]

People still try to make games based on crypto?

Not a single one of them is succesful
maybe they all think "we are built different"

[gilded elm]

Nothing more than a "cool" technology that has no practical application whatsoever.

People have been struggling to find some kind of use for blockchain and consistently fail over and over again.

[twilit mountain]

The only use so far has been to make a lucky few normal folks money and then a lot of rich people quite a bit richer

[gilded elm]

Well yeah, there are actually genuine (but extremely niche) use cases for blockchain, but cryptocurrency is like the worst possible example.

I think blockchain is cool, but yeah cryptocurrency is a net negative to society IMO.

[twilit mountain]

Blockchain would probably be better received (and might actually have usage) if it weren't majority pushed by crypto bullshit

[gilded elm]

Could be, though the idea of an immutable decentralized ledger is just so limited in scope that it has extremely few practical applications even without the stigma of being associated with crypto.

[twilit mountain]

Tangentially related, at least one country has attempted to use crypto currency as their official currency and I am bewildered that anyone allowed that to happen. Cannot think of a more irresponsible idea than that for an entire country.

[gilded elm]

I hate it when games try to push blockchain for basically no good reason lol

It just tells me they don't have their priorities straight

[twilit mountain]

Deadass they would probably fly perfectly fine by most people's opinions if they just... didn't do blockchain and made their items and whatnot exchangeable on Steam market.

[gilded elm]

For sure, if we're talking about using blockchain for like tradable NFT items, that's so dumb I would actually prefer something based around the Steam market instead.

But the idea of NFTs are also so dumb I wouldn't even want them at all lmao

[twilit mountain]

Beyond true

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1392860/Little_Nightmares_III/

Ok Oct.11th base on Chinese time, little nightmares 3 will be out, no price yet but it ask us pre-order?...

I hope single player's experience will on the track...Because two protagonists here

[twilit mountain]

Many reasons and not the least of which is that crypto games are almost always crypto first, game second (or third or fourth, etc)

[sand wigeon]

Until you lose internet lol

Always remember: reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold!

[twilit mountain]

📐

[sand wigeon]

You “own” your currency on the blockchain up until its perceived value falls or you lose access to it.

It is very easy to cause you to lose access to it, any governmental power can technically do that, and its perceived value easily changes and falls due to being unbacked by any central power.

Currency as a falsity, separate from a central organized power, maintains its worth due to the available powers backing its existence (outside of bargaining.)

You “own” your crypto about as much as you own dosh at the end of the day, it’s just backed by online powers instead of governmental ones.

The idea of cryptocurrency being some big secure and ever-lasting thing that you own is just silly

Same with gold

Gold only holds value due to governmental backing, it’s just fortunately backed by a LOT of governments

[gilded elm]

Cryptocurrency is also worthless if you cannot actually use it. It's rarely accepted as a direct payment method in the vast majority of storefronts, the only way to actually meaningfully use it is to exchange it for actual fiat currency which obviously the government has total control over. The government can regulate how much of your crypto you can even exchange, they can also flat out make it illegal to exchange crypto for fiat.

It's not even a commodity, it's not a product of natural resources or human labor. It exists purely through wasteful energy expenditure to create a market based on a false sense of value, it's basically gambling.

[sand wigeon]

Yep.

[fierce moth]

🙃 Fine. I'm suffered enough from "I can't open the link" when I posting Artstation link as my portfolio. If GGAC can't save me, then I just give up Chinese game studios.

Chinese platforms are zero on international contribution 🫡

lol I can't view anything or change anything in my GGAC page if I using VPN

👏

[pine summit]

also unrelatedly mecha break is out in like a week

[fierce moth]

lol this fan art is stuck on reviewing by the GGAC platform... I guess relevant to copyright issue.

Looking forward to Tencent find me anyways so I have some influence at least

[sand wigeon]

Did you read what I said?

Or did you ignore it because you couldn’t think of a response?

Because I directly address that idea. Cryptocurrency is still VERY much controlled by centralized powers. Its perceived value is actively influenced by much of the same people who influence the backed currency of nations. And a government could easily restrict people’s access to cryptocurrency if they really wished — not to mention cryptocurrency’s value is baseline set by the cost of the energy expended to produce it, a cost defined by governmental powers.

Or the fact that the people become the centralized power in this equation, nullifying the idea of no powers controlling it.

It’s really not very different.

It’s just a more unstable form of currency that could essentially disappear on a whim, isn’t accepted by most of society and remains entirely digital, unable to be used or spent outside of a digital era.

[keen wind]

It is different in that I consider crypto worse in that regard because of the way control is allocated, both PoW and PoS effectively hand control over money to wealthy folk

[sand wigeon]

Cryptocurrency as an idea works. As it is in practice, it’s just gambling.

[keen wind]

Crypto doesn't exist in a vacuum, it exists in the real world, with rich people being able to afford more compute (PoW) or currency (PoS)

[sand wigeon]

Yep.

Like, it is just a currency. People wanted to exchange favors but found it too cumbersome to have to bargain between each other for favor or items, so they invented something everyone could agree with holding value, which meant the person being paid could then go purchase what they want. It’s the basic evolution from bargaining to currency. But outside of small communities, that falls apart pretty fast unless backed by a centralized power.

It’s why the only “currencies” that function without backing are practical things. Cacao was historically used thanks to its modicum of rarity and common use, meaning many people wanted it. Water is the most commonly used currency in any conception, since everyone needs it and it always holds value.

[sand wigeon]

It’s the classic “I grow the food so my house is bigger.”

Point is, cryptocurrency as an idea of this amorphous, hidden, secure currency seperate from corrupt governmental powers or overreach just doesn’t work in the long run.

If this is incomprehensible, excuse me, I am more than a little tipsy.