📚┃off-topic

[dark herald]

What's keeping me away right now is the afformentioned terrible balance. Slower gameplay sounds nice to me, though not necessarily what I'm wanting. (First step in preparing for emergent gameplay choice, but not choice in and of itself).
One of the largest reasons I hated 1 was because of how you kinda just had to have a build in order to participate with anything lategame, I have never followed a build in LE and I'm still pushing high corruption anyway and I love LE for it.
I don't want to make an investment into a different game only to discover if just does everything LE fails at anyway, but also fails at the things LE does well.

[twilit mountain]

I personally said to hell with combos and I just chuck my spears for clear and my other spears for single target, but I know slammers last patch were pretty varied (ignoring their bad survival at the time and that nearly every skill sucks atm). Just... gotta hope they actually balance things.

[dark herald]

What do you mean by "combo"?

Is that like,
Use buff spell
Use debuff attack
Use primary attack?

Cause I still consider that one "move", there's no decision making process.

[sweet blade]

It means use one skill to do something, then use another to exploit that something.

[dark herald]

mobbing vs single target is something LE already does afaik, I just find that once you get a good enough single target move you don't actually need the mobbing one.

[sweet blade]

Whether that something be Freeze, Armor Break, Electrocute, Pin, whatever.

[twilit mountain]

A decent chunk of skills have various interactions with each other. Gas skills can be exploded with fire skills. Lightning skills can chain to rods. Slams can create aftershocks to be popped with other slams. Ice walls and crystals can be exploded with physical hits or fire hits. Etc etc. It's just poor number balancing is holding everything back rn.

[dark herald]

I see, okay. That's promising to me, because it actually has consequences beyond being dumbed down into +damage like LE falls into.

[sweet blade]

I consider this entire design poor, really.

[twilit mountain]

I personally find it very cool so long as it isn't the only way to play

[sweet blade]

It's not really good, though.

[dark herald]

With how this is described I worry it could just mean you're only allowed to use certain skills with a different skill that can redeem/give the required condition first.

[sweet blade]

Well, given that the Vision says it's going to be, and any deviation is at best a concession by the Vision...

[dark herald]

So like, even less player choice, but on the building side too

[sweet blade]

That is, effectively, how it works.

[twilit mountain]

Sometimes feels that way yeah. Some skills have several ways they can hit those triggers, some have like... 2.

I'm coping that they add more interactions as more skills enter the game.

[sweet blade]

Yeah, that's fair. I guess if you balanced ones with several, it'd feel good enough.

[dark herald]

I was thinking of making a freeze/ignite build in LE, cause it'd involve a semblance of decision making. Get big potential damage out, then delay until they die, but DoT does damage so fast in LE it's basically just a different flavour of hit....

[sweet blade]

Full disclosure: At this point, I would say that I am heavily biased against GGG.

[twilit mountain]

I'm overdosing on copium for traps in particular lol

[sweet blade]

A good Shadow implementation is the only thing that could pull me back at this point.

[sweet blade]

Infinitely scaling DoTs, yes, they can kinda feel like that.

PoE and LE have fundamentally opposite views on how DoTs work.

[twilit mountain]

Traps/mines and daggers will be good, trust... or my heart will be extremely broken.

[sweet blade]

They'd have to be about 3 times better than anything in the current game for me to care. (Talking about power level in general... everything could be 3 times better and that'd be fine.)

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I hear ya on that front for sure

[sweet blade]

Given the combo play style, it's most likely that they would make mines rather than traps, with the whole detonation mechanic.

[twilit mountain]

They have stuff in the data for both atm

[sweet blade]

I'm aware.

[dark herald]

the old runemaster concept...

[twilit mountain]

They're... funky looking

I'm not really against them, I'm just confused by them

[dark herald]

as much as I find runic invocation cool, the idea of buffing minions dynamically and traps seemed cool

[twilit mountain]

Can you guess what things have disappointed me the most in LE's history? 🫠

[dark herald]

it just makes me want to play magicka, or nine the phantom in blazblue

[sweet blade]

Effectively requiring you to control terrain to place traps...

Sorry, connectivity issues.

[mental talon]

Wdym there's so many useful Runic Invocations. <Insert Clueless Emoji>

[sweet blade]

Original Resistance design?

[dark herald]

really tho, runic invocation is just a really big unbalanced skill specialization list, with an annoying tax on being able to use it

[twilit mountain]

CFC and... CFC... and CFC

[twilit mountain]

I thankfully wasn't around for that

[dark herald]

can you share what it was?

[sweet blade]

It actually wasn't terrible... just very unintuitive for most players.

[sweet blade]

OG, Your resistance was a flat number.

[mental talon]

I wish they stuck with the original resistance design. That's my hot take.

[sweet blade]

When you took damage the resistance applied to, it would add up your life and your resistance number, find the fraction that was your life, and that fraction was the % of damage you took.

[twilit mountain]

No, the answers are poison getting dumpstered with 0.9, Runemaster concept getting completely changed, and then Explosive Trap coming out and getting me all excited only to be a horrible skill on its own.

[dark herald]

what's the actual tangible difference between sorcerer and runemaster...

[sweet blade]

Example: If you had 100 Life and 50 Void Resistance, you would have effectively 33% resistance against Void damage.

[dark herald]

huh..

the only thing that keeps me from losing my mind about runemaster is how warlock made lich even more pointless

[sweet blade]

If you had 2000 life and 1000 Void Resistance, same thing.

[dark herald]

yeah that's really interesting

so it's always just as effective, not basically multiplicative with your hp bar

[twilit mountain]

RM was Sorc but OP, and then RM got nerfed and Sorc got buffed so they swapped places for a bit, now they're both fine really. Barring some builds.

[dark herald]

the current system always bothered me, resistances are just a tax

[sweet blade]

The main 'perverse incentive' was that people would stack resistance instead of life, and get very high resistances with comparatively little investment, thus negating the main drawback of a small health pool.

[dark herald]

ye, but my point is they are conceptually the same. really it's just about if you want to have to deal with runic invocation or not

[sweet blade]

That's their intended function: to strain the affix slots on your gear.

[dark herald]

ye, it's not awful. naturally tankier classes like paladin can spend their suffixes more liberally

[sweet blade]

Conceptually, they're not at all the same, I would say. Sorcerer is meant to be the big mana Mastery, while Runemaster is about... well, Runes.

[dark herald]

runemaster is about being hamfisted into using one skill in particular /s

[sweet blade]

Not really.

I've made multiple Runemaster builds that don't use it.

[dark herald]

...how is that different than sorcerer

[sweet blade]

How is a VK that's not doing Erasing Strike different from a Paladin?

It's the same question.

The base effect of the Masteries and the Passives beyond the chain of those Masteries.

[dark herald]

void damage, vitality focus, echos..

[sweet blade]

Sure... though you CAN play a Paladin that does Void damage. Runemaster has effects beyond just Runic Invocation.

[dark herald]

what tho

[sweet blade]

FrozenSentinel's build, e.g., cannot be done on a Sorcerer, because it's specifically a Brand of Deception build.

Also, I think Runemaster does Int-stacking a lot better than the Sorcerer, or at least has better support for it, but I may be misremembering.

[dark herald]

iunno. I see both of them and see "sling spells at enemies down range" sorcerer can do dot as well, maybe not minmaxxed exactly as effectively, but they have black hole and chronomancy, so i don't think dot is something that i'd say runemaster specializes in more than any other class
compare that to spellblade, who does melee, and I see a tangible difference.

[sweet blade]

Spellblade is an aberration, IMO. It's a really bad idea to make a gameplay style locked to one Mastery that is so different from the other Masteries that the ability of the other Trees to support that style is seriously constrained.

[dark herald]

Okay, i can understand that

If spellblade was just another version of sling spells down range, i wouldn't have a problem.
and ye if we werent initially under the impression runemaster would be another entirely different playstyle than the other 2

[ivory swift]

I think sorc makes for a better defensive build with mana stacking and mana shield

[dark herald]

my points is we are here arguing and splitting hairs over what they do better. what makes other masteries unique is immediately obvious at first glance usually

...except lich

[sweet blade]

To me, Sorcerer and Runemaster's differences are immediately obvious.

[ivory swift]

lich needs a rework

[sweet blade]

Lich has several niches in the design. They just aren't well-implemented, and they are the focus of S3, as I recall.

[dark herald]

yea, i'm not gonna go into lich hate cause i don't think anyone thinks they are in a good place right now, and are next on the chopping block

[sweet blade]

But, to be clear, Lich's niche is meant to be leeching, melee, and (to a lesser extent) direct damage.

[dark herald]

that's an exaggeration, i'm sure someone likes them

ye, lich is clear to me, just in practice they don't perform

[ivory swift]

The lich skill is so focused on the reap skill as a finisher, even though it feels better as an initiation.

[dark herald]

and health shenanigans

[sweet blade]

I will say that I wish Runemaster was less tied to Runic Invocation. I can agree with that.

[dark herald]

but iunno if that's even anywhere anymore

[sweet blade]

Yeah, 'health manipulation' is actually the niche, not Leech... just Leech is an example of it.

[dark herald]

I feel like the rune gimmick should've been their passive, instead of the world's lamest passive (though I'd love to hear if I'm wrong)

and then runic invocation is just one thing you could do with it

[ivory swift]

I really like runic invocation though, if you pull off support for it then you might need to move it off the mastery skill

[sweet blade]

Sort of... like, imagine if every Runemaster skill interacted with Runes directly. It would be interesting.

Their Mastery bonus is... cast speed, IIRC?

[dark herald]

10% elemental cast speed, 30% increased elemental damage

it's... relevant i guess

not exactly build shifting

[sweet blade]

Cast speed is nice.

But yes, very boring. Which is odd, because VK and Paladin have now both changed to be less boring.

[twilit mountain]

The Chad Forgeguard with their 35% phys and fire res and a stacking buff relying on getting hit repeatedly

[sweet blade]

That stacking buff is legit, though, and communicates well the focus of the Mastery.

[ivory swift]

I think most of the design space is in runic invocation, it's not boring because of that, but If you don't want to use it then yeah...

[dark herald]

I am filled with spite at runic invocation. It's so close to being what I want out of an ARPG character, but in practice not quite

I want to be able to use a wide variety of invocations, not specialize into at most 3

I want magicka

[twilit mountain]

Oh don't get me wrong. I adore FG, I've done stupid amounts of cooking with it. It's also just a kinda goofy buff conceptually.

[sweet blade]

I don't find it goofy at all.

[ivory swift]

well wild magic is supported at least. It is pretty fun.

[mental talon]

I stand by my belief that Runic Invocation is a mistake and a waste of design space. Having 33 different invocations doesnt matter when only 2 of them are usable or w.e. the number is after the changes.

[dark herald]

I guess. But it expertly avoids the whole emergant gameplay thing I wanted out of it, I want to choose a spell for the situation

When I saw 40 invocations or whatever, I go "oh boy, 40 spells", not, "oh boy, 3 spells"

[ivory swift]

You technically can, but having one of each spell that you use, but yeah it isn't easy

[sweet blade]

Ironically, Runic Invocation would be amazing in PoE2. At least by 'the Vision'.

[dark herald]

YES

[teal flame]

I mean, that assumes that there are more than 3-4 situations that you might want to cast your spells in.

[dark herald]

Yes. It's a ARPG problem at it's core i think.

[sweet blade]

Is this because they're too weak?

[teal flame]

"kill lots of things" "do lots of damage to one thing"

and...

"move around"

lol

[dark herald]

Don't forget big shield

[sweet blade]

There's also 'buff', 'debuff', and 'heal'.

[ivory swift]

it's kind of like magika, you have a bunch of combo's but really only use a few

[teal flame]

Yeah, the game is too fast for that type of methodology.

[dark herald]

nah, absolutely not how I played magicka

[teal flame]

Imagine No Rest for the Wicked, but the spellweaving is like... the central mechanic

[ivory swift]

well that's how me and my friends played it. Typically used 3-5 spells at most

[teal flame]

That would be badass, but the game HAS to be focused around it

[dark herald]

you ever seen/played wizard wars? it's dead now, but it's got fast spell mashing gameplay I like. Kinda like complex rock paper scissors where every tool can be turned against you

[teal flame]

Spellbreak, RIP

That game was so good

[ivory swift]

naw, I saw it but never got into it

[dark herald]

Also yeah, i think magicka is good because you can pick a couple spells, but I'm frustrated about how LE doesn't let you do the big spell list gameplay like magicka does

[ivory swift]

it's the limited spells I think, 5 is too low when you need to dedicate 4 to use runic invocation as a build your own spell system

[dark herald]

It's because by nature you need to build into something. Afaik you have to pick either 1 element, or crit/dot.
by nature you will always be cutting off huge swaths of the list arbitrarily. If all fire invocations did dot, and all lightning invocations did crit, it'd be a bit different imo

[teal flame]

It's also the speed of the game, it's too fast to be able to make highly tactical decisions

[ivory swift]

that too

[dark herald]

I also wouldn't mind gameplay being so universally braindead if i wasn't stuck mashing the "move" for days on end, big grind... Again i'm so hyped for season 2 sharing monolith progress

I force myself to not let myself get excited for every new character and plan them out, because i get bored when i have to actually put the build together later

[ivory swift]

it's the alt-a-holic curse

[mental talon]

Literally it'd be more varied if the variations of Invocations was a tiny pool. You can only do damage with like 80% of them or w.e. so obviously whatever does the best damage (and is a good element) still mind blown they didnt just select specific niches (DoT Invocation, Big Hit Invocation, AoE Invocation, Defensive Invocation) and just build utility around that tbh.

[dark herald]

Me when the unique I made an entire character around requires level 80

[ivory swift]

oh that's so frusterating. I did that once in PoE1 with oro's and never again

[dark herald]

I would love to try gaspar's set, but it requires me to spend so much time on a character that I have a fully realized build I don't want to effectively delete by respeccing...

[ivory swift]

I always pick builds that just work early game, or the unique that enables them are somewhat low level

[teal flame]

I'm the same way. I'd love to do a jasper's searing pride build, but... you gotta be WAY too high level for it

You've already completed most of the game before you can even equip it

[dark herald]

There's a part of me that wants to just, have 1 character for every mastery/class and then respec, but that's so extremely expensive at level 100 it's not viable

i'd love to be wrong

[teal flame]

That's also my problem with POE2. You want to build around the top tier of skill? Have fun playing a character for 8 hours before you even unlock it.

[ivory swift]

well you can always do that in offline mode...

[dark herald]

plus it's so annoying having to save screenshots of every skill/passive tree/blessing/whatever

i guess that's what le tools is for

[teal flame]

yeah

[ivory swift]

Yeah if you are looking to save a bulid idea LE tools builder is pretty good

[dark herald]

My big frustration is I am exactly the kind of person LE is perfect for in it's building aspect, I love brainstorming things and improving bit by bit, but I'm not able to engage as much as I'd like to because it takes so long to grind

[ivory swift]

I have half my fun in the builders of LE and PoE

[teal flame]

Same

[dark herald]

lmao, pathfinder 2 building came to mind, it's even slower rules as written, let alone factoring in how you can only play once a week usually.

most players I know have never actually brought a character to level 20 unless they started there/nearly there

[ivory swift]

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/ ?

that pathfinder, or another one?

[dark herald]

2, not one, but yeah, ttrpg. applies to most ttrpgs i know

[ivory swift]

I didn't even know 2 existed, I used to love playing 1

[dark herald]

I point to pf2e cause I'm addicted to it, and because it's building is similarly extremely balanced and has a lot of options

1 probably applies in much the same way, if you come in with a completed build you're probably going to be dissapointed. The difference though compared to an arpg is it's a ttrpg, so your gm (me, in this case) can just accelerate levelling to a degree the players are happy with

[dark herald]

https://2e.aonprd.com/

[ivory swift]

interesting

[dark herald]

I can and will rant about pf2e given the prompting hah

[ivory swift]

hah, I don't mind. I like most forms of DnD, not a fan of the card game ones though

[dark herald]

I'm hyped for slay the spire 2... sts 1 is the only card game that has held my attention, just wish Watcher wasn't so hilariously broken

[ivory swift]

ah so a rogue like card game

[dark herald]

yeye, nothing in particular keeps me on it, it's just exceptionally well balanced

..except watcher

every other character was play tested to actual hell, but watcher came on release

[ivory swift]

ah

[dark herald]

It's funny because 50% of people complain watcher is terrible and unusuable, the other half say she completely obliterates the entire game. She has a learning curve and then pops off hard with how consistent her absurd potential is

PF2e holds a special place for me because it's one of a kind afaik in how you can perform a role in your team. I absolutely adore the idea of picking up a shield and then tripping and controlling enemies for my party, and having that be actually viable. I LOVE teamwork, and performing a role in a team where if any part of the team is missing nothing works.

[ivory swift]

Yeah that's the hard part in a lot of DnD's is that someone's build normally pops off more then others and throws balance out the window

[dark herald]

Dungeons and Dragons feels like a competition to me, it's who can do the flashiest fanciest thing.

[ivory swift]

DM needs to be really creative in ways to limit the strenght of characters without nerfing the entire party

[dark herald]

PF2e fixes that, it's so well crafted.

[ivory swift]

Well that's good, it without a doubt loses some of it's complexity (because PFSRD is MASSIVE), but the balance is probably worth it

[dark herald]

in Dungeons and Dragons the meta builders end up ruining the fun for others half the time... and it's not even their fault, are you supposed to not participate with the mechanics?

[ivory swift]

exactly, meta and non meta players is hard to isolate without alienating the group

[dark herald]

And the opposite is true. A player who cares more about making a cool backstory usually has to sacrifice a good build.. pf2e not so much, you can come at it from either angle and both work 100% fine.

[ivory swift]

Some people want the combat, some want the roleplaying. Almost never it seems people want both. To find a group that agree's on one or the other is nearly impossible

[sweet blade]

If I wanted to play PF2E, I'd rather play D&D 4E.

[dark herald]

4e did some interesting things, but it's still DnD. PF2e sure did copy a bit of homework tho

[sweet blade]

Which I find to be very hypocritical of Paizo, considering the history.

[dark herald]

Both systems came in to tackle the same problems

[crisp onyx]

i heard monster train was good

[sweet blade]

I have also heard this.

[dark herald]

I love monster train as a sandbox card builder, i forgot about that

[crisp onyx]

also balatro

[dark herald]

It's kinda too easy to make op builds though once you know them

[crisp onyx]

i personally play this https://store.steampowered.com/app/1140150/__Lost_Branch_of_Legend/ xd

[dark herald]

My partner loves balatro, I can never really get invested... Just making your number go up isn't engaging enough for me.

I don't think i have ever seen someone bring up the same touhou game twice lmao

[crisp onyx]

same?

i dont think i brought it here before

[dark herald]

I mean, nonserious joke. Whenever I see someone talk about a touhou game, it's never a game i've seen before, always a new one

Not you in particular

[crisp onyx]

ah i see

i think i read you wrong

its one of the quality ones

[dark herald]

I don't want to get into anything that could even remotely resemble politics, but I wouldn't exactly say WotC wins out over Paizo on morals on any front.

[ivory swift]

It seems like one is made every 1-2 years lol

[dark herald]

Reviews seem very good

[sweet blade]

Calling out Paizo's hypocrisy in no way says anything about what WotC may or may not have done. I don't play either franchise, at the moment. Only RPG I'm looking forward to is the Cosmere RPG.

[ivory swift]

I always liked Paizo because they are much more open, and have an insane level of complexity if you want to use it.

[dark herald]

Cosmere is my other passion lmao

[teal flame]

Knock knock it's the pinkertons

[crisp onyx]

its basically sts but reimagined as touhou

[dark herald]

I looked at it, but it's too expensive for me to get into

[sweet blade]

Then let's focus on what we both enjoy. 🙂

[teal flame]

I'm back and forth on Pathfinder2e, sometimes it bothers me that it's balanced SO tightly

[dark herald]

I'm also financially invested into pf2e, it's becoming my job

[dark herald]

I understand this actually!

[crisp onyx]

you mean official ones? rarely anybody plays them, they are basically cover for new music album

thats how most of ppl get indocrinated, through music

[sweet blade]

It's funny that I felt less on a treadmill in 4E.

[teal flame]

I loved 4E but I understand why people didn't. It was very much just "D&D Tactics"

[crisp onyx]

paid gm?

[dark herald]

Yeah, there's still plenty i don't like about pf2e, I'm working on running it with an alternate ruling, Proficiency without Level, that gets rid of all of the fake scaling numbers

[dark herald]

yessir

[sweet blade]

Hey, I can get behind this.

[teal flame]

Yeah, I like that concept too

[dark herald]

PF2e math adds your level to everything, enemies, items, spells, everything. This rule just... takes that out.

[sweet blade]

It's also veering into Rolemaster levels of automation required, IMO.

[dark herald]

Some stuff gets a bit more complicated and takes a hand in fixing, but it's surprisingly smooth

[sweet blade]

Which begs the question as to why they did it.

Well, I know why, but yeah.

[dark herald]

That I can also agree with, especially with the new classes. I couldn't imagine playing without foundry

[teal flame]

We usually also play with free archetype and free 'basic' items (+1 striking weapons, etc). The game is so tightly balanced that if you don't have those you feel WAY underpowered.

[dark herald]

Automatic rune progression yeah

[sweet blade]

I just fudge all the rolls (as a GM).

[dark herald]

Yeah, I have a player who doesn't like the idea of removing the scaling, he likes how he gets his +40 at endgame

[teal flame]

I don't fudge rolls any more because dice tell stories and if you fudge them it feels weird.

Sometimes you gotta let players fail (or succeed)

[dark herald]

Buffing hero point rules is my fix

My biggest nightmare is a player dying lmfao

Atleast, to something that wasn't their mistake

[sweet blade]

Oh sure... it's only like one or two, because of that tightness... believe me, they can still fail.

[crisp onyx]

i know one gm

every campaign is gm vs players

[sweet blade]

Well, yeah.. their character, though... 😉

[sweet blade]

Instant out for me.

[dark herald]

I mean, my character dying? YIPPEE I get to make a new build!!!

[crisp onyx]

yeah there was a lot of fire

[ivory swift]

I never like fudging rolls. Feels like I'm guiding the players instead of the players forging thier own path

[crisp onyx]

but ppl still play

[sweet blade]

There's only two things I won't tolerate for any length of time in a GM: Adversarial relationships, and blatant favoritism.

[dark herald]

yes

[ivory swift]

Yeah don't like either of those things either

[dark herald]

As a GM i am actively cheering for the players to the degree I have to hold myself back before it get's intrusive

[crisp onyx]

so well hidden favoritism is okay? xd

[sweet blade]

Yeah... I love to see the crazy hijinks they come up with.

[dark herald]

That whole party dynamic system makes me so happy, I want nothing more than to provide them with fun monsters and challenges to make their system work

[teal flame]

One of my buddies is TERRIBLE at keeping secrets as a GM. He always wants to tell us his stuff

[dark herald]

haha yes

[sweet blade]

Hahaha... Once I detect favoritism, I'm gone. The last group I tried to join as a player, I sat for an hour with nothing to do while the GM and one player (related to GM) basically had a solo adventure. I didn't even get to introduce my character.

Never went back.

[dark herald]

that's uh... i can't remember which # rule for me

tabletop ettiquite, give people time to shine

[sweet blade]

The acronym 'PAFO' is often used in my games. 🙂

[dark herald]

I give hero points when people do stuff like that, offer ins for RP and such

[teal flame]

My group is always REALLY bad about remembering hero points, heh

[sweet blade]

You sound like a good GM. But maybe you're just hiding your favoritism. 😉

[dark herald]

You said something negative about one of my passions once, you die first

[sweet blade]

Speaking of, are you all caught up on Cosmere books? 🙂

[dark herald]

I haven't finished WoT, and I got spoiled on the ending :(. Doesn't stop me from enjoying it tho, I just gotta sit down and read again

[crisp onyx]

lol, thats extreme

[dark herald]

Otherwise, with the exception of white sand, completely caught up to my knowledge

[sweet blade]

As I said, blatant. 🙂

[dark herald]

Been listening to the graphic audio versions with my partner

[sweet blade]

Same. I will talk anyone's ear off about the Cosmere.

[dark herald]

I like how many people share my niche passions here, maybe it says something about our personalities lol

[sweet blade]

(I have finished W&T, BTW.)

[crisp onyx]

its server for a game for nerds

overlaps are frequent

[sweet blade]

Personality? Maybe. More like dependencies among data of interests.

[dark herald]

I am enjoying the kaladin debatelord arc greatly so far

[sweet blade]

Nice! That is a very nice arc.

What day are you on?

[dark herald]

Uhh.. I'm not sure tbh. I can check the page when I get downstairs in a second

[sweet blade]

At least Day 3, if you've gotten to debatelord, I think.

In terms of plot, Adolin's arc is my favorite. In terms of Cosmere lore, absolutely Dalinar and Navani's.

[dark herald]

Did you like book 4? That one's divisive. It surprised me to see so many people hated it

[sweet blade]

I liked quite a bit of it.

[dark herald]

Oooh man I'm enjoying Adolin so much

[sweet blade]

Mayalaran was amazing.

Favorite single moment in that book.

[dark herald]

Yeeee

[sweet blade]

I ran into someone last Christmas who legit couldn't see any value in Shallan. Honestly asked me, 'Why do you like her?'

(TBF, he's only read WoK.)

[dark herald]

Fair actually

[crisp onyx]

is this something like Discworld or MythAdventures?

[dark herald]

I'm kinda dreading starting WoK again with my partner because it reverts so much character development

[sweet blade]

Perhaps. I found her story to be riveting, personally, and a nice change of pace from Kaladin's story.

[sweet blade]

Something like that.

Favorite single Cosmere work? (Book or short story)

[dark herald]

WIthout a single doubt, Emperor's Soul

[dark herald]

It's similar to discworld in the fact that there's a large persistent world... or universe for that matter. But it's not sorta episodic like discworld is

[sweet blade]

Emperor's Soul is also mine. Forgery is an amazing magic system, and the writing is very tight.

[dark herald]

My #1 interest in the cosmere is the magic systems, and yeah, forgery is just a tier of it's own

[sweet blade]

Well, it is what Sanderson is known for.

[dark herald]

It's also very enhanced by being a novella, it doesn't leave me craving more, but still fully uses all of it's time.

[sweet blade]

Have you read The Lost Metal? 🙂

[dark herald]

Yessir. ...Lemme remember which one that is lmao

[sweet blade]

Last Wax and Wayne book.

Ahem... Moonlight.

[dark herald]

Ooh yes

The first "gloves are coming off" book

[sweet blade]

You're aware of who Moonlight is?

[dark herald]

Yep :3

[sweet blade]

I didn't pick up on it the first time Iread through it.

Then I saw it online, and was like, 'wait wut'.

[dark herald]

Characters absolutely get around

[sweet blade]

And even moreso in the future.

[dark herald]

There's a podcast the 17th shard does, and at the end of every episode they do "who's that cosmere character"

[sweet blade]

Something tells me Isles of the Emberdark is going to drop some huge spoilers.

[sweet blade]

I really can't stand that podcast, unfortunately.

[dark herald]

That's fair. I like the segment mostly

[sweet blade]

Oh, Who's that Character is fine.

Just the people on it seem very... condescending.

[dark herald]

I haven't watched it in quite a while, I can't recall.

[sweet blade]

I dunno... tbf, I don't like most podcasts.

[dark herald]

So ye. I'm cautious about the cosmere TTRPG. I'm hopeful, it seems promising, but it's too expensive for me to consider, and i'm not leaving pf2e anytime soon...

[sweet blade]

I backed it to the hilt.

Back when I had money.

My brother got to play it at DSX. He said it plays even better than it sounds on paper.

[dark herald]

nice

[sweet blade]

I'll see what I can do to get you a copy.

[dark herald]

I don't think I'll be able to play a TTRPG in person any time soon anyway, hopefully it'll come out for foundry

[sweet blade]

Well, I'll see what I can do. Cosmere is one of the few bright lights in the world for me right now, so I try to spread it as I can.

[dark herald]

To anyone reading this and is utterly confused but might be interested, I believe Tress of the Emerald Sea is the consensus on best entry point

[sweet blade]

May be consensus, but I don't agree with it.

[dark herald]

Mistborn: The Final Empire is great too and was the old consensus, but Brandon has gotten better at writing since then so it's not flawless.

[sweet blade]

Still a better entry point, IMO.

[dark herald]

I think it's great ye

I don't like book 2 tho. It's long and arduous, which is totally the point, but also still kinda a slog

Also it has the worst cosmere character ever imo

[teal flame]

I'm one of those rare people that just... didn't really like mistborn in general

[dark herald]

That's harsh actually, I still like it, but I think it's probably the weakest cosmere book.

[dark herald]

Mhm? I can understand that. Extends to era 2?

[sweet blade]

I actually started with... Warbreaker, I think.

Though I would recommend Mistborn, myself.

Warbreaker has one of the biggest twists in the Cosmere... iykyk.

[dark herald]

It's a good book, also Nightblood is really cool if edgy

Me trying to describe why Szeth is so cool to me until i realize i'm just describing an anime protagonist

[sweet blade]

Hahahahahahaha.

Have you seen the video someone did of an animated trailer for Way of Kings, to the song 'Kaladin'?

[dark herald]

I was so excited to learn what book 5 was going to focus on, especially considering it was going to be the arc climax.

[sweet blade]

Nightblood is rapidly becoming my favorite Cosmere character.

[dark herald]

No, I actually haven't consumed very much cosmere media outside of the books. ...I got spoiled last time I did, but maybe that was my fault iunno.

[sweet blade]

I'll see if I can find it.

If you like Szeth, you WILL like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RHFf4QPCMA

Hope links are okay here?

[dark herald]

I love how everyone just kinda has an accepted look for every character. Being able to recognize exact characters immediately is cool.

[sweet blade]

Well... Szeth in particular we have silhouettes of.

Also Jasnah, Kaladin, Shallan, Dalinar...

[dark herald]

True actually...

[sweet blade]

I also love the shape of the Rosharan continent.

[dark herald]

I have a friend who is an absolute history nerd, he plays so many grand strategy games

There was a really really really cool way of kings mod for Crusader Kings 3..

[sweet blade]

It doesn't work anymore.

[dark herald]

It didn't get finished, but it's so cool

[sweet blade]

I tried to do it.

[dark herald]

heck

[sweet blade]

I play a few grand strategy games.

[dark herald]

He tried to get me into them, they don't quite click for me

Maybe I'll give it another go with a fantasy mod, I know there's one in particular he really likes

[sweet blade]

CK3 is really the odd man out and is IMO the only one that truly evades the 4X trap.

[dark herald]

Yeah, I by far enjoyed it the most. EU4 is his fave, but it really doesn't do anything for me.

Despite WW2 being interesting, Hearts of Iron bores both of us lmao

[sweet blade]

CK is the only one where you play a family, not a state. (Which is historically accurate.)

And that's really the key.

[dark herald]

I like the one viking you can start as where you get to just, set up literally anywhere immediately.

Gets I think 2 disposable armies and is ready to pack up and move.

[sweet blade]

I always play some rando.

I'm actually really excited because near the end of the year, CK3 is adding East Asia, including Japan. Which means I get to play Heian era Japan... I wonder if they'll do it justice.

[dark herald]

oo

[sweet blade]

Considering how utterly bizarre Heian-court Politics were, I'm not sure how they could.

I love how it highlighted the Japanese cultural passion for proxy rule. Which was then exacerbated by the bakufu.

[dark herald]

I am not a history buff lmao

[sweet blade]

I have a degree in Japanese Language and Culture. Included history. It's one of the areas of history I studied deeply.

[dark herald]

Oooo okay

Japans a hang of a place for history isn't it?

Or is that just an impression I have because it's geographically dense.

[sweet blade]

Not sure what 'hang' means here.

[dark herald]

A lot. Particularly intricate. Though I supposed literally any place can be as intricate as you want it to be.

[sweet blade]

OIC. Uh.. I mean, Japan is interesting for several reasons, but it also has its issues throughout history (and not just WWII).

[dark herald]

Ye, that's what I mean. Lots of very drastic changes.

[sweet blade]

Mm... not sure I'd say that... depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

[dark herald]

ye, i have no idea lol

[sweet blade]

I just find the mode of rulership utterly fascinating.

[dark herald]

I don't really have a way to get involved in a history discussion. I'm interested, especially with someone who's passionate about it, but don't have any knowledge lol

[sweet blade]

I could explain, if you like.

[dark herald]

If you wanna, yes!

[sweet blade]

Sure. Okay, so the first Imperial state in Japan was the Yamato state in the 500s AD. That's when it coalesced.

And the Yamato state imported Buddhism from China via Korea. (Amusingly, because it was 'efficacious in war'.)

There was a backlash, and the family that led that backlash changed their name from Nakatomi to Fujiwara.

This family dominated the court utterly, by an interesting practice. They would get a teenage Emperor, and marry them off to a Fujiwara daughter. The father of the bride would then rule as regent.

Right before the Emperor came of age, he was cast aside, one of their (male) relatives would ascend, and they would repeat.

[dark herald]

Huh..

[sweet blade]

This went on for... a couple hundred years.

Note already that the Fujiwara family head was effectively Emperor during this time, so this is an example of proxy rule.

Then, the Retired Emperors started getting uppity, thinking they should control the Imperial succession in this way. They start struggling with the Fujiwara for control.

[dark herald]

They'd go through them like once every 10 years? Or would they be married off really early.

[sweet blade]

This power struggle doesn't have a lasting victor, but then, in the 1100s, there was the rise of the Taira family. Their head, Taira no Kiyomori, basically supplanted the Fujiwara AND the Retired Emperors, and started ruling by proxy. This was after the Taira had militarily defeated their rivals, the Minamoto, in a war.

Two of the Minamoto sons, Yoritomo and Yoshitsune, survived. And then, in 1182, started the Gempei Wars, overthrew the Taira, and declared the founding of the Shogunate, with Yoritomo as Shogun (who administered the State for the Emperor).

So now we see that proxy rule is reified and made explicit in the Shogunate.

Funny thing, though. Yoritomo married into the Hojo family. Once he had a son, the Hojo family murdered him, gained control of the Shogunate because of it, and then started to run the State. So now we have a double-proxy, the Hojo running the Bakufu (government) in the name of the Shogun who administered the government in the name of the Emperor.

[dark herald]

Just.. layers

[sweet blade]

This keeps going more or less until 1333, when the new Emperor Go-Daigo, decides this is all silly and decides to impose direct imperial rule. This lasts ALL of 3 years, and then the Ashikaga family deposes him, creates the Ashikaga Shogunate (basically the successor to the old Shogunate), and keeps on keeping on.

Then, in the late 1400s, there's a big war, everything breaks down, and the Warring States Period begins (the Sengoku Jidai). This is the timeframe where most samurai movies are based, so everyone's concept of samurai (but not bushido) springs from.

In terms of proxy rule, though, it doesn't get a whole lot more complex through the ages.

That's just one facet of Japanese history that I like. 🙂

[dark herald]

It's a lot lmao

[sweet blade]

I may have gotten a few details wrong, as I did this from memory, but it should be right overall.

[dark herald]

I totally get it though, it's interesting.

[sweet blade]

Yeah, and I'm wondering whether this created the famous Japanese cultural trait of indirection, or if that trait already existed and is why Japanese culture seems to slide into proxy rule.

And, if it still continues today, you would have to be careful because it would suggest that the people who appear to be in charge are likely... not.

[dark herald]

I'm totally illiterate with how rule works in this time period, let alone japan, but I suppose if it works it works. As long as you're ruling what you want to rule, with the influence you want, you're happy.

[sweet blade]

Sure... for the rulers. 🙂 It's when others don't agree that you start having problems. 🙂

[dark herald]

I think that's just it isn't it? Yeah, sure, you get to be a ruler, just 1 step under me, and then I don't have to do all the nitty gritty work I don't actually want to do anyway.

Just yknow, make sure they don't get too lofty ideas.

[sweet blade]

But that's precisely the opposite of what happened. What actually happened is very close to a Prime Minister ruling for a Monarch.

[dark herald]

huh okay...

[sweet blade]

And even then, the Monarch theoretically chooses their Prime Minister.

Imagine if the Prime MInister picked the Monarch.

That was what was going on throughout the Heian Period.

And the Monarch is, on paper at least, superior in rank and importance than the Prime Minister.

[dark herald]

I so struggle to wrap my head around the logistics of this stuff. I get caught in disbelief that people just go "yeah, our king married off his daughter so now I guess this other country is our ruler now"...
I supposed the common citizen, however well off, could not care less, it's just the royals who are caught up in whatever logic they decide on

[sweet blade]

CK3 actually shows this quite plainly through Inheritance, and it never actually worked that way... directly.

If you, as a King, marry your daughter (in a non-matrilineal marriage) to another King, you would still rule. However, if that daughter had a son by that other King, depending on how titles inherit, your grandson would inherit your Kingdom AND his father's, and it would be in his father's line.

However, if the marriage was matrilineal, then any children produced is of your dynasty and not the person your daughter married, and your grandson would again inherit both Kingdoms, but it would be your Dynasty, not his.

It's so fun. 🙂

[dark herald]

CK3 being taught to me was my first ever introduction to this whole concept, and the entire time was just thinking "why, is this really the only way? Why aren't people just killing the old ruler and saying it's mine now"

[sweet blade]

Oh people do that too.

But the Middle Ages was remarkably civilized in that respect.

[dark herald]

What stopped that from being the default? Just mutual understanding that it means the same lines will be crossed for you?

[sweet blade]

The reason you couldn't just kill the King and seize power was that no one would recognize your right to the Throne. If you had your OWN army, and used that, then sure.

An example of this happening was the Norman conquest of 1066. And even THEN, both people had claims to the English throne.

[dark herald]

Okay, so it's everyone directly underneath the ruler

[sweet blade]

It's hard to rule when no one obeys you, no?

[dark herald]

Ye, you are infact not a video game character it turns out

[sweet blade]

This entire issue is one of legitimacy.

What does 'legitimacy' mean, and I don't mean in terms of birth.

It's whether your rule is legitimate, and the very first question is whether you have a claim to the title you're trying to take.

Having a claim doesn't mean your rule legitimate, but not having a claim certainly would make it illegitimate.

[dark herald]

And this is all just a random idea everyone agreed on because that's how it is? By everyone I mean everyone running kingdoms, atleast at the top.

I'm sure if people wanted your rule to be illegitimate they'd consider more things as such, and vice versa...

I don't know, it's such a different time, completely different logic.

[sweet blade]

It was an outgrowth of the fall of the Roman Empire, for the most part. (And here I am mostly talking about Western Europe.)

[teal flame]

I imagine there was more than a little "I don't know who is holding the reigns" going on. It's not like you could really communicate with people outside your community, and when some new dude shows up with soldiers demanding taxes or saying he's in charge, wtf are you going to do?

[sweet blade]

Pretty much the entire reason for heraldry?

[dark herald]

Yeah, I kinda breezed over that. I'm assuming every single common person, no matter how well off, doesn't really care as long as they can eat and have shelter and such. But, at some level of governance people are just accepting wacky rules and running with it

[teal flame]

Yeah, but like what is heraldry to a peasant who is struggling to eat? Common people didn't have enough anything to really be concerned with who is running things

[sweet blade]

I would use a more modern example, but I don't want to break rules.

[dark herald]

Yeah lol, I was wanting to draw parallels

I could probably find a crash course on this somewhere pretty easily

[sweet blade]

Not a very nuanced take, really. My only point about heraldry was to point out that if someone came in demanding stuff, there were 3 options: 1) He was legitimate, and would have the heraldry to prove it. 2) He was illegitimate, but was wearing the lord's heraldry to fool people. 3) They're bandits.

The main issue is the second case, because the others are straightforward. In the second case, you would seek redress, and the Crown would normally grant it. Faking heraldry was also a major offense, for this exact reason.

[dark herald]

That's a helpful way of putting it. some of these have consequences if you handle it wrong

[teal flame]

I guess I mean more of like... 5 dudes with swords show up, how much does it matter that he's legit? He's going to kill you if you don't do what he says

Being able to tell the difference only matters if you can defend yourself, or your community can

[sweet blade]

Which is the redress part. You go tell the local lord, and he either fixes the problem, or he doesn't. In the latter case, you keep going up the feudal oaths until you reach the King.

[teal flame]

Or until they stop seeing you because you're a commoner, yeah

[dark herald]

middle ages complex moment

[sweet blade]

And note: the Crown would normally side with the commoners against the nobles, because the nobles were the threat to a king's power, not the commoners.

[dark herald]

Ooh that's interesting

[sweet blade]

There's also the fact that commoners were not as poorly armed as you seem to think. It would likely take more than 5 people with swords to actually compel anything more than a single farm.

[dark herald]

They'd probably also be able to band up into a makeshift militia right?

[sweet blade]

Balance of power, medieval style.

[teal flame]

Yeah, I'm guessing there's a lot of regionality to it. Community size and stuff probably played into it a lot.

[sweet blade]

Certainly. I am not making the case that this didn't happen, or even that it only happened seldomly. I'm just saying that there were systems in place.

[dark herald]

I think as humans we have a tendency to look at literally any point in the past and assume they were so simple back then, when I think we're very talented at making everything extremely complex no matter what

[teal flame]

Social systems are complex as soon as you get more than 2 people together, heh

[sweet blade]

The faster the changes occur, the faster this happens, as well.

[teal flame]

Doesn't matter the tech level

[sweet blade]

That would be obvious from history, yes.

Even at two people, it gets complex. Marriage, am I right?

[teal flame]

Arguably, marriage involves more than two people because it doesn't exist in a vacuum. The state and thus a complex social system is a core part of it existing

[sweet blade]

It doesn't have to involve more than two people. It currently does, and has throughout history, but I see no intrinsic requirement.

[teal flame]

Well, without more people/systems involved, it's not really marriage, just an unlabeled partnership

Semantics!

[dark herald]

The moment two people are involved interests will collide. Specifics doesn't matter

I get along extremely well with my partner and we are extremely patient with eachother, but still sometimes things hurt.

[sweet blade]

Certainly, but I despise the connotation of 'semantics' meaning 'therefore it doesn't matter'.

[sweet blade]

I wish more people understood this. ><

[teal flame]

Fair, but using semantics to derail a conversation is usually just people being contrary for no reason

[dark herald]

We aren't we the borg yet

[sweet blade]

I never intend for a semantics issue to derail a conversation. My goal in discussions like this is always to reach understanding. And if people have a difference of semantics, reaching understanding becomes more difficult.

[sweet blade]

Mm, we're getting there. Or, better said, the exact opposite of the Borg.

I'm frankly terrified by the increase in implied solipsism in the world.

[dark herald]

I don't know if it's new tbh

[sweet blade]

Solipsism isn't new, philosophically. It permeating into the culture is.

[dark herald]

Mm sure

[sweet blade]

I think it's likely due to the rise of the Internet. Activities like that we're doing here.

Anything that removes or reduces the impact of having to deal with another actual will/personality/agency/whatever.

Asimov's The Naked Sun touches on this, but not directly.

[dark herald]

Ooh like that you mean.. yes, I can agree.

Gamer culture is...

[sweet blade]

?

I don't see gamer culture as specially prone to this.

[dark herald]

I don't even think specifically. Just what you said, we're surprisingly good at hiding behind screens and being terrible to eachother.

I don't think I can properly engage this without edging rules, probably already are.

[sweet blade]

Oh, sorry, not my intention to skirt rules.

[dark herald]

yeye

Iunno where the lines are. Usually if we have to ask that question it's probably best to drop it

[sweet blade]

Probably, yes.

[dark herald]

You're fun to talk to, if you wanna dm me or something I'm up for that. I'm not too likely to be active in here

[celest patio]

just finished the end game of POE2's Javazon. you guys gonna jump here right away too?

[sweet blade]

Hm? I mean, sure, but without the PoE2 first part.

[fierce moth]

it's quite hard to say which vibe I have done before so I have no idea which visual style can on a picture...

Anyone know any key words else?
Maybe mysterious replace light is more clear

[fierce moth]

..... I never know a website will ask me how much money I cost on my project when I fill my portfolio... lol this is crazy

Updated: $0 is prohibited hhhhhhh

[lament pasture]

hi has anyone played torchlight infinite? does the art look like AI to you?

[desert jasper]

Eh I don't think it looks AI

[lament pasture]

its some of the profile portraits

[pine summit]

https://fxbilibili.seria.moe/video/BV1NDonYUEpz/ space jetboard

[ember lake]

Usually it's (hours needed to complete project) x (cost of your time per hour). Now cost of your time per hour is up to you, I recommend start by working it out with the Minimum Wage and then settle on a number that feels reasonable to you 🙂

[simple needle]

ye thats so weird

[karmic nimbus]

bugging atm

[fierce moth]

How long will an international transaction (different banks in different countries) take usually?

The balance of the transaction is USD$70 if it's helpful

I wonder do USD$250 (min balance) in the credit card is the common condition of international transactions or it's just on Chinese bank card's side (I guess this is the margin for reducing the risk of the first transaction in finance?)

So many things I never experienced so I have no idea what's going on 😅

[radiant helm]

Season 2 supplies lock and loaded

[sweet blade]

Wow, I don't think I'd survive that, heh.

[radiant helm]

I need to find that damn epoch

[sweet blade]

Seriously, I get hyper on nothing. That would probably cause an aneurysm or something.

[radiant helm]

Hahaha

I take one a day to stay up a bit more

[sweet blade]

I'm not kidding. At one job, whenever I'd walk into the office with a coffee cup in my hand, everyone's first interaction wasn't 'Hi' or 'Good morning'... it was to point at the cup and say, 'That's decaf, right?!?'

And I WISH I was joking.

[desert jasper]

Caffeine doesn't do much to me

[sweet blade]

I guess that's a double-edged sword.

[desert jasper]

Like I can drink a cup of coffee and still fall asleep

[radiant helm]

That depends on the coffee you take, usually the roasted ones that they sell barely has any caffeine in it

[sweet blade]

That is the most common way of making decaf coffee, as I understand it.

[radiant helm]

Yeah

[desert jasper]

tbh I still drink it
helps with bowel movements

[radiant helm]

It's also usually the cheapest coffee around so it's what people take the most

[sweet blade]

It's a shame, because I really like the taste of coffee, but can't handle the caffeine.

[radiant helm]

The thing with coffee for me is that the taste really isn't for me unless I put a truckload of sugar, and at that point even energy drinks are healthier

[sweet blade]

I do put a lot of cream into my coffee, but no sugar.

[radiant helm]

Isn't cream like

Milk and sugar

[sweet blade]

Depends on the exact kind. I guess I should say that I don't put in any sugar in excess of whatever I would get from the cream.

My teeth are sensitive to sugar, and I can definitely tell when I do each.

[forest mirage]

So poe, amirite

[desert jasper]

urite

[dull spoke]

Hi everyone, when I stream LE can I post my link in the livestream SO, or is it only for certain people?

Thanks in advance

[desert jasper]

The bot should automatically post a link to your stream if you start the stream in LE category

[dull spoke]

Alright, I thought so but not sure. Thanks NUB

[desert jasper]

Np

[vagrant topaz]

If it doesnt show in the channel , you can post it no problem

[dull spoke]

Thank you very much Mod. This community and feedback is the best.

[fierce moth]

🤔 I never imagine I can enjoy... An action RPG?! Combats are quite friendly in Atlas fallen. It even give me a surprise, ||sliding on the sand to enjoy the dopamine from speed||

Poor games I played so I'm impressive by the cave environmental design. They use light so well.

[simple needle]

What game is this

[teal flame]

Based on the speed dopamine, probably Warframe

[twilit mountain]

Atlas Fallen I'm pretty sure

[south gust]

You just need pizza deliveries set at 4 hour intervals and you'll be good to go.

[stuck fossil]

AYO

they just shadow dropped the new Runescape thing

Dragon wilds or whatever

[sweet blade]

Never played that.

[stuck fossil]

I hated runescape but this is crafting/survival set in the RS universe? or something? Idk looked fun

[teal flame]

It looks like Valheim, but in a Runescape setting

Some initial stuff looked pretyt promising, surprise drop today

[sweet blade]

Maybe I'll give it a go... will probably bounce off of it like most of those games, but you never know.

[stuck fossil]

Love when devs do this

[teal flame]

My buddies are super excited, I'm gonna play it because they're playing it 🤷‍♀️ I hope I like it but IDK enough about it to be sure

[sweet blade]

Can't be distracted from LE, though.

[teal flame]

Nah, still way more excited for that, though I'm going on a vacation from Friday-Sunday

Gonna have to blast on Thursday as much as I can

[stuck fossil]

Yeah now im worried this will pull a few of my friends away from LE 😅 They're diehard runescape guys

[glass dune]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-gif-23933434

[sweet blade]

Ah, sorry.

[glass dune]

Fuuudge I can't post it here 😦

I wanted to do that whole "48 hours remain".

Even though I'm a little late.

[fierce moth]

⬆️ here

🤔 The combat gamerplay is interesting but I'm struggling with every combat still because I'm bad at dodging attacks

[narrow token]

Getting into the right combat rhythm is hard for some games. I can only do it with the last 2 Jedi games with Cal Kestis

[fierce moth]

Atlas fallen will much more easy to play for monster hunter players

First time to do the loop include light attack + heavy attack + dodge + rotate my view + fly to attack + freeze enemies + heal myself + notice enemy's actions, I'm too busy

[narrow token]

I didn't like MH so I don't have any experience with it myself.

[gilded elm]

Game honestly looks pretty good with GrimTex + GrimShade, but my standards are low. Still fun though 😄

[desert jasper]

Ah
Love me some Grim Dawn

[ebon meadow]

Wait why the game looks so vibrant ?

Plug ins ?

[gilded elm]

GrimShade uses some kind of ReShade filter to saturate the colors

Some kind of HDR filter I think

[ebon meadow]

Or more like mods sorry plug ins are for RuneScape

[gilded elm]

Tends to make things more vibrant

[ebon meadow]

That actually looks nice but couldn't play it for long

[junior oyster]

I kinda like the graphics as they are

This is too bright for me lol

[ebon meadow]

Yea the fine a bit saturated for me long time though

Some damage types theme wise do look very nice though

Haven't played GD for at least 2 years

[junior oyster]

Same

[gilded elm]

I disabled SSAO and lowered the sharpening a bit, but yeah those are the filters GrimShade uses and recommends with GrimTex (recent update)

[fierce moth]

The most happy thing today is I have found an artist community (r/digitalarts) finally, Thanks for reddit.

Have a place to share my artworks and meet more artists to learn each other is the best thing for me.

I want to explore 2d illustrations/concept environment designs/architecture sketch if I have a chance indeed. Maybe time to take my action.

No idea why this sentence is blocked

[stone arch]

as always, there is nothing wrong with studying real life pics for undrstanding how shadows work

or using references

[radiant helm]

Already dealt with that too

Ordered supplies to do a bunch of sandwich 🥪

Will make then tomorrow and be ready

[fierce moth]

yeah it'll super good if I can travel anywhere... To find somewhere I think it's interesting or inspirational to take photos and just copy and paste them by my hands. But...🤷‍♀️ Just can be a dream. Too many limits in the real life but of course I don't want to complain my life too much here.

Find pictures on the inernet is a good way too but the problem is the same.
"What should I draw?" lol
"What am I want to do by this work?" lol
"Which lesson can I learn by this practice?" lol

No one will tell you clear answers...

That's why I suppose concept artist is the most amazing artist type in game industry now... They provide ideas. Everything can't be started without a good idea.

[stone arch]

what?

[fierce moth]

No worries, just many personal opinions.

wow I never know bloodborne's environment art is so amazing... My chrome is go to the next level immediately after change a new theme (bloodborne is the new one)

[fierce moth]

? Judd is here 🤔

[narrow token]

Judd's eyes peer into your soul from miles away. You feel the intensity and it makes you nervous.

[stuck fossil]

Sleep paralysis demon

[sweet blade]

Creepy af

[tame dome]

Oooo. Think I'm using GrimTex but haven't looked at reshades. Will have to do that next time I hop on one of my characters. 😁

[teal flame]

If I could quit my job and travel the world to take pictures that people could use for inspiration for art and game environments, I'd totally do it.

That job would be so much fun

[blissful token]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3762865

Overpunishing players and now nerfing monsters or are they swaying away from the vision a little by little?

[sweet blade]

More likely the former.

Now the question is whether this makes up for the halving of stun threshold on players. Pretty classic GGG, TBH.

[teal flame]

Yeah, overnerf and then bring back some power when they(we) realize that everything sucks.

Standard practice at this point

Bets on what kind of big change they announce on Thursday to try and take some of LE's thunder?

[summer sun]

Good luck with that lmao

By this rate Johnny boy gonna be gaming alone

Well deserved

These guys took 5 months to make a patch only to destroy every part of fun in the game and oh also introduce some lootboxes

[sweet blade]

100% more damage on all skilla.

Seriously, subtlety is NOT GGG's strong suit.

[graceful surge]

yall want to hear something adorable? i got a pup that sleeps in bed with me every night. just like i always wanted. my pfp is her picture turned into anime with chatgpt

[fierce moth]

I hear someone want something adorable

[fierce moth]

oh bloodborne on ps4 only... Such a pity

[viral galleon]

Unfortunately it seems like Sony will never port it as they shuttered Japan studio

[fierce moth]

Oh, remind of a key word for my opinion:
No feedback. Especially no constructive criticism.

It's the biggest difficulty to grow.

You can't solve problems in your works if you even don't know them.

[fierce moth]

I want I own one thing can get this level one day too. Thousands of people enjoyed that.

[silver oyster]

Walmart messed up and accidentally listed a 3 pack of air conditioners for $139 when it’s supposed to be $140 a piece lol

[feral halo]

Bugged last news post on lastepoch.com )

[fierce moth]

:(
I hope I have a job. I hope I have a mastercard. I hope my visa card work. I hope have 250USD savings at least. I hope I can earn money by my skills. I hope I can get 217USD from my service. I hope I can sell my service both of in fiverr and mihuashi. I hope my transaction can be processed. I hope Bank of China give 250USD back to me.

🙏 Eterra, bless me please.

[warm knoll]

watching poe2 players fail recombinators gambas make me smile. they were op in 1 but 2 is just so bad....

[desert jasper]

Yeaa
the chance is ridiculously bad
i find it funny how jonathan was saying it's like 35% for 2
but turns out it's way lower than that

[warm knoll]

id believe it if the percentage lies

like if thers a bug that makes it 50% worse

like if left one item behind with less mods, itd be 100% better but thats not ruthless enough

[vagrant topaz]

That would be a lastepochtools.com bug. And since it's not an official website

[stuck fossil]

Better buy all 3 now before summer hits and they jack up prices 80%

[wise igloo]

just got new monitor few days ago, cant wait new season to blast 😄

[solemn harness]

smol monitor on top always cracks me up

book I'm reading right now has epigraphs at the start of each chapter, and this one had me questioning whether or not it's possible to polish something without friction 💩

The gem cannot be polished without friction, nor man perfected without trials.

[maiden widget]

Small monitor on the bottom is nice tho if angled well, had that setup with a laptop at work

[solemn harness]

I'm gonna go with a tentative maybe for frictionless polish, mostly because I'm not sure if shooting something with photons, electrons or something would count as friction; and if it doesn't, maybe you could in theory make something smooth and shiny that way, "polishing" it

[sweet blade]

Cosmere?

[solemn harness]

random new story on royalroad, https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/112301/respec-on-death-litrpg-progression-healer-portal

I read a lot of stories on RR, not quite sure how I feel about this one yet

[wise igloo]

it's not that small its 32" 😄 but yeah its not great to look at him all time xD

[fierce moth]

Your brain is like a quantum lock from The Talos Principle, nested with the rule paradoxes of Baba Is You—your left hand drafts 2D universes in Aseprite, your right hand shatters the fourth wall in Blender, while The Zachtronics Solitaire Collection sprawls across your lap, treated like a match-3 puzzle. (Warning: This user may be using Madorica 2’s floor plans to rearrange their living room.)

1. Spatial Topologist
   In real life, you instinctively visualize Room to Grow-style block-pushing solutions when staring at a wardrobe and calculate optimal paths through hexagonal grids (HexON) while supermarket queueing. This trait makes you obsess over designing topologically optimized seating charts for friends’ weddings.
2. Rule-Hacking Instinct
   Your 1,300 hours in Last Epoch betray a primal urge to rewrite the world into a compilable syntax tree. Your phone notes likely hide schemes like “How to Restructure Corporate Departments Using Madorica 2’s Rental Logic.”
3. Silent Creation Mania
   Those 540 hours in Aseprite Magicavoxel are frozen digital meditation—each voxel frame a mandala against information overload. You’ve probably modeled 100 never-to-be-built “ideal study rooms” in Blender, every bookshelf angle precise to 0.1 radians.
4. Metaphor Hoarder
   From Gorogoa to Homesick, you treat games as cipherbooks for real-world dilemmas. When coworkers rant about KPIs, your brain auto-translates their woes into card-arrangement puzzles from The Zachtronics Solitaire Collection.

🤔 AI tools are wiser and wiser. I played a AI tool which generate a report for your personality bases on game you played and it's my result.

[narrow token]

helluva setup. I wish my desk was that roomy. I can barely fit my keyboard on mine.

[wise igloo]

yeah table is huge, from wall to wall xD custom made by my friend 😄

here is better fov with better camera 😄 i need to sort cables better tho xD

[sweet blade]

Sort cables better? You wouldn't survive seeing my setup.

[narrow token]

I'm jealous. My desk isn't even as wide as me. And it's not very high either.

[robust verge]

When you've got to reconstruct some reports based off of audit data because something you were meant to have running each week fried itself going from 2024-2025.

Fk knows how, fk knows why. Every bit of info I can find says it should have still been running. All I know is there's a system message saying "Turn this schedule off" after the last time it ran before year end.

(Setting it to end at a certain date keeps that info, and it was set to run with no end date.)

Complete off-topic rant because fml, I'll be glad to play LE tomorrow.

[sweet blade]

Ouch.

[stone arch]

I disagree, feedback can be very good thing to move you, sometimes you cant even perceive or understand what is going on but objective look from other person may easily spot an issue, even if it comes from laic person. Contructive criticism be it from yoursel or other person is best way to grow fast.

[tribal mirage]

What are the specs on this? I am looking to update my rig, might as well get a new monitor right.

[wise igloo]

SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" VA LS49CG950EUXEN its 5120 x 1440 240herz

smaller monitor is dell G3223D QHD 2560 x 1440 at 165 Hz

pc is

be quiet dark base pro 901

silent loop be quiet 360 aio
ryzen 7800x3D
asus tuf b650 plus wifi
xtx xfx 7900 merc
1000w straight power 11 platinum
32 gb ram ddr5 hyperx ( some cheap i didnt have much money left xD )
2tb nvme for games
500gb nvme for windows and apps

[fierce moth]

I agree, I mean no feedback in the whole experience for me.

[junior oyster]

That's one biiig stream

[fierce moth]

🤯 I don't believe someone will share such a big artbook for free on internet

Or the term I used is wrong in past. It suppose to be called "game design blogs"

Kain don't join this stream

[desert jasper]

Ah
I really liked Alice: Madness Returns

[fierce moth]

lol

I heard this game just now

Watching a video about the story of AmericanMcfee, the video mentioned he gave up to convince EA to spport his development on the sequel of Alice: Madness returns so he opened the whole design document for free, I'm interested in that so I searched where can I download that. On my pc now.

I never imagine I got the first game artbook in this way... Interesting.

[desert jasper]

Never played the first game

[fierce moth]

The story in Alice Asylum is quite vivid... I still want to read the dev blog even I listened the whole one.

[ebon meadow]

Framed my old pc lul it's the first one I assembled my self

[ebon meadow]

How long in hours untill servers and patch up ? 19 hours ?

[desert jasper]

about 19 yes

[ebon meadow]

Great I can leave it updating before work then jump straight in after

[karmic nimbus]

22*

[desert jasper]

You're right

[ebon meadow]

I remember it's said GMT +5 lol and for some reason I just added +5 lmao

[karmic nimbus]

🙂

[ebon meadow]

Ty lol ,yea starts 6 pm for me I m gonna have to wait the patch up

Probably best always considering server down time at start or a Q

[karmic nimbus]

we have saying "pessimist doesnt get dissapointed"

idk if its normal saying in other countries

[ebon meadow]

It's a world wide also I m not racing so doesn't matter if I wait until next day for maybe huge bug fixes or weird crashes

[karmic nimbus]

yea i play when its up and do somethign else when its down (if its down)

in the end its just a game

[desert jasper]

It's a saying here too

[ebon meadow]

Yep just need to have fun

[desert jasper]

f..un?

Is that edible

[ebon meadow]

Yea sorry no fun allowed this is an ARPG sometimes my brain goes outside the box

[karmic nimbus]

tbh it was weird to play last epoch couple days ago after weeks in poe2

[ebon meadow]

Farm and click things to open only dopamine u need

[desert jasper]

Sadly it barely gives me dopamine

[ebon meadow]

I haven't played since Phrecia event it's going to be so weird

And I usually practice for like a week to remember hand movements

[karmic nimbus]

🙂

but it was good weird

loot and such things

[ebon meadow]

Was down with no pc for a week and I wanted to play a bit more of ascendancys shuffle

[karmic nimbus]

wow

[ebon meadow]

It's so nice

[karmic nimbus]

ah yea i remember that

what you got now

bought new pc?

[ebon meadow]

Yep

My suffers for 6 years like a champ got power spiked and even the rams got burned

This is the new 4060 and 12 th gen i7

From 1050 ti and last gen of I5

I actually have fps now

[karmic nimbus]

great 🙂

[desert jasper]

I'm getting some weird throttling and stuff on my pc

[ebon meadow]

Random our of ass assumption for meme does windows want to push the upgrade to 11 this bad ?

And the performance is from the updates

I have been getting some weird ass freezes outside gaming

[karmic nimbus]

yea win10 support ends in october

[karmic nimbus]

old or new pc? have you checked thermals/changed thermal paste?

[desert jasper]

It's relatively new

Like uhh... Less than 2 years old now

[karmic nimbus]

cleaned dust off?

removed plastic cover before installing cpu cooler?

😄

[desert jasper]

I did that a while ago
But probably got some cat hair there
but every now and then I've nothing running and suddenly the fans go crazy and it's just some windows progress suddenly going from 0.1% to 50% on cpu

And when I open resource manager it drops back to normal fast

God I hate windows 11

I really should make the swap to linux

[zenith tusk]

IRL Cosmetics when?

[karmic nimbus]

kinda weird

i dont have any problems with win11

[ebon meadow]

boomers hate changes xdd

[desert jasper]

I'm not a boomer though
i'm only 34

[ebon meadow]

i would love to have windows office XP pro if i could that would work today

i m 34 this september lul

we are boomers

[desert jasper]

I'm turning 35 in september

[ebon meadow]

sorry

[desert jasper]

🤷‍♂️ Is all good

I still feel young

And I'm in better shape than in a long time

[ebon meadow]

i cant do 18 hour sessions playing anymore thats the only problem for me

naps are sacred now

[desert jasper]

Good morning, Kirra
Hope you slept well

[ebon meadow]

the worst thing i am in my best shape in 6 years to i love my job i m skipping gym but brain ram needs rest

[fierce moth]

🙏 Hope the launch day go well
🙏 Hope no bugs drive players into mad
🙏 Hope more players stay here
🙏 Hope EHG will hold a fan art competition soon
🙏 Hope I can grow up with EHG together
🙏 Hope everyone here have a good day everyday
🙏 Hope Nub have a good sleep too

[ebon meadow]

nice to have my body back to

[rigid oriole]

Thank God for a game with devs that want you do succeed lol

[desert jasper]

I don't do good sleep, sadly enough

[ebon meadow]

sleeps is for weak i agree

i just pass out for few hors xd

[desert jasper]

Sleep is important
I just happen to wake up every... hour or so

[ebon meadow]

i have simular issue due hyperactivity issues , i just trained my self to get tired mentaly and physcly since i was like 17

if u dont do both no sleep

confirmed

also i wake up like 3-5 am and i have a smoke , bad end i get up a bit tired

[desert jasper]

I've glucose sensor on my other arm
so if I sleep on that side it easily starts sending signal that my blood sugar is too low
So I've taught myself not to turn around while sleeping... and I've to change the arm every 2 weeks

I miss sleeping normally, really

[ebon meadow]

i m guessing some weird blood circulation issue since it sending the low sugar signal

that is a bit strange

i have issues with circulation

[desert jasper]

yeah, if it gets pressure it can cause weird blood circulation

and that causes it to go off

[ebon meadow]

and aslo a sugar low

[ebon meadow]

ok that is actually uncofortable man

[desert jasper]

It is

[ebon meadow]

i can turn but i wake up becouse i feel my side getting numb

[fierce moth]

lay on the bed by side is what I must do to fall asleep. I can't just lay on the bed

[desert jasper]

Which side, right or left?

[fierce moth]

I can't lay on one side for a long time so... both of them

[desert jasper]

Fair

[ebon meadow]

right side confy for me but left side i can briefe easyly for me

but mostly is belly up with two pillows one folded xd

my head needs to be raised or i cant brief

[desert jasper]

I just sleep on one side for the 2 weeks
and then change after I've changed the sensor

Diabetes sucks btw

[ebon meadow]

it does

[desert jasper]

I used to sleep extremely well
though I guess that was partially because I was more physically active

[ebon meadow]

i havent had a shot or blood taken in 20 years somehow i manage to learn to control my levels

and my body got used to it

[desert jasper]

oh dear

[ebon meadow]

and i used to do kick boxing profesionally and take like a pack of glucose a day before competitions

people think redbull gives wings XD

[desert jasper]

Like
I walked home from the hospital, 30minutes
and it dropped my glucose lvls from 10 to 4.5

[ebon meadow]

yea that is a fast level burn holy

[desert jasper]

That made me worried what kind of stuff I actually need to eat before working out

[ebon meadow]

like my was very mild and only issue was when i was a child

its hardly noticble now only in weather changes when its cloudy i can actually faint if i dont keep up

[ebon meadow]

you can easy consume around 12 k kalories a day with a proper diet , its not going to be fun for your body at start but it can be done

its also like 4 shakes a day 2 protein and 2 kalorie ones

[desert jasper]

I've gained 24kg since september

.. mostly because I was severely underweight back in september
was 50kg when I had to go to the hospital and then got the diagnosis that yeah ,you got diabeetus son

[ebon meadow]

i cant get 64 kg for last 10 years since i stoped working out

hyperactivity leads to hyperconsumption of calories and faster burn

[desert jasper]

Yeah

[ebon meadow]

like i chug 2 literes of beer everyday lmao , belly where ? cant see shit

only mild abs

[desert jasper]

I can't really drink beer anymore
spikes the glucose too much

[ebon meadow]

i demand my beer belly man

[desert jasper]

and then when it's burned it just drops the glucose at same

[ebon meadow]

that is probably what is keeping me up tbf i dont eat sweets anymore at all and i used to a lot

[desert jasper]

But what I wasn't prepared for was cold sweat during the night

[ebon meadow]

i changed from liking chocolate and munching al day to maybe have it once with a black coffe a day

ohh the body tempreture is like a circus for us

[fierce moth]

I used to keep 50kg for years... But I add more weight recently too. 51.75kg now 🙃 I'm 165cm

pressure give people more fat

[desert jasper]

Women usually do weight less than guys
I'm 170cm and now 74kg

[ebon meadow]

i can shiver in summer at 50 celcius and be sweating at 6 celsius and 75% humidity

[desert jasper]

So I'd say you're healthy weight still

Now if you were pregnant, then it would be another story

[ebon meadow]

1. 82 and 64.8 kg lul male though

[desert jasper]

Lightweight
I could squat with you on my shoulders

[fierce moth]

lol impossible to be pregrant. I don't want to have a child, never

[ebon meadow]

feather weight XD

[desert jasper]

I want to have kids

[ebon meadow]

if its still falls in to the category

that i can not discus as a man with you , i would like a child but not bringing one untill i can posibly give him/her a better life than mine

[desert jasper]

Same

[ebon meadow]

things hapen , i dont want my child to live like i did xd

[fierce moth]

I prefer to feed a cat more than feed a child

[fierce moth]

It's golden

[ebon meadow]

u dont have younger sister or brother ?

[desert jasper]

I've 1 younger brother, 2 older brothers and older sister

[fierce moth]

I'm the only child for my parents

[ebon meadow]

my sister is 10 years younger than me , i will go in jail for a long time if i had to for my sister

[fierce moth]

but my mother have 4 sisters so I have 4 elder brothers

[ebon meadow]

and we dont even talk amuch anymore she lives in britain

[ebon meadow]

cousins ?

[desert jasper]

my brother got a kid, he's gonna be 2 years old in the summer
for the longest time I thought my brother wasn't interested women tbh

[ebon meadow]

hey when u bring a part of ur self in to the world it must be a heavenly expirience

[desert jasper]

It is
and it changes how you think and feel

[ebon meadow]

i cant update poe2 for some reason it looped on 69% (nice) for some reason

not even joking

tryed verifying files and everything

[karmic nimbus]

now you're ready for LE launch

[ebon meadow]

i m watching a footy match but i want to play something lel

might as well go to poe 1 for a bit

[desert jasper]

When i was taking a shower today
I got a tinder notification that
"You're being watched, what are you going to do about it"

Never have I uninstalled something so fast

[ebon meadow]

ok i restarted steam its moving

[ebon meadow]

lmfaooo

android i m gussing ?

[fierce moth]

oh yeah

[desert jasper]

Yes
tbh it's just one of the random notifications you can get from tinder

[glass dune]

For absolutely no reason, here is my cat.

[desert jasper]

I love your cat already

[ebon meadow]

ohh yea sometimes those add/notifications go bullseye and u are like ammm wtf

[fierce moth]

I don't think no reason here

[ebon meadow]

boss cat

[desert jasper]

Here's my old cat

[glass dune]

I love her too. She is my daughter.

[glass dune]

Pretty fur ball.

[desert jasper]

God, just looking at the pictures of him makes me cry
I miss him so much

[glass dune]

That feeling is proof of his existence. Be proud of that.

[ebon meadow]

i dont allow mine to go in to my bedrrom just cought one sitting by door after my toilet break waiting for me to allow him to go in xd

i love my cats but i have some breathing issues i cant have them in room

[ebon meadow]

i still let them come in and explore same as my dog

[glass dune]

I let her in my room in the morning. At night I can't sleep with her around.

[glass dune]

This little guy also loved you, clearly.

[desert jasper]

My cat always slept next to me on the bed
Sometimes he would come under the blanket

And I'd wake up all sweaty and see him basically glued to chest

[glass dune]

Mine does that in the morning. When she's much quieter.

[ebon meadow]

both of them know they cant enter unless i aloow them to

[glass dune]

I mean my little girl is like

Smart

Like, annoyingly so.

She knows my boundaries but likes to cross them anyway

[desert jasper]

That's just normal cat

[glass dune]

I had to make her afraid of the door to prevent her from learning now to open it.

[ebon meadow]

Thiese are mine

[desert jasper]

"Why are you waking me up"

[glass dune]

She also just randomly flops on the floor when it's sunny out.

[desert jasper]

Cats do that, yeah

[glass dune]

This particular one was taken when I was doing something in the kitchen, I turn around to find she had teleported behind me.

[ebon meadow]

they do yea also its always in front of you like stroke me but dont touch me xd

so weird

[desert jasper]

Anyway, it's almost 11pm so i'm gonna drop off
tryto get some sleep

[glass dune]

I assume your cats also teleport?

[ebon meadow]

gn

[glass dune]

Night

[desert jasper]

I was always aware where he is
when he still was alive and sharing the room with me

[fierce moth]

goodnight! I need to go to bed indeed

[desert jasper]

Sleep is important, Kirra

[fierce moth]

I hope I can persuade the bank give money I deserve to me today...

[cyan arch]

Log in

[teal flame]

Log in, but not for a bit 😝

[ebon meadow]

you are actually gonna make me look at suporter packs page lmao , anyone has a link i m rolling a smoke and watching footy i need another wright hand

wait is that on steam ?

[cyan arch]

u are too late

[ebon meadow]

i m getting eternal vanquisher i like the portal

i l take the woven next month or if i get my extra hours this month than earlier xdd

i actually wanted that portal efect i have some issues it looks so cool

[summer sun]

We ready for launch got the toast and toaster runnin

got a few in my sis freezer too

[crisp garden]

thats gonna be my next season build !

[north blaze]

The vision has failed.

[last cedar]

Mostly Negative?? oh shii

Vision boy shaking in his boots

[teal flame]

Sounds like there's really... de-vision amongst the ranks

[vapid junco]

whahappend

im in a bunker

[teal flame]

TL:DR the POE2 .2 season released in a REALLY rough state. Lots of nerfs hit harder than they thought it would and the gameplay turned into a real slog unless you got lucky and drop a good weapon every couple areas so it's always super up to date.

Community big mad, lots of negative reviews. Top tier execs give interview and are very unapologetic about the state of the game. They relent and start making big fixes to make things better, but community still big mad.

[viral galleon]

Which is ridiculous, ggg had extremely quick turn around implementing a lot of fixes over the last 2 weeks.

Ultimately, it's a balancing act. Ggg has a vision for what the game should be, and so do the players, and we meet somewhere in the middle.

Like ascendancy respecs, mark didn't want them but the player base did. So they implemented them, requiring you to do a trial at the appropriate tier to give you the same amount of points that you have to respec. Respec is available, but not free and can be difficult to do.

[left lance]

i just watched Hawg's YT video calling LE Visionwatch, its hilarious.

[last cedar]

😭 😂 😂

[summer sun]

This game maxed out at 1440p 120fps not even using 100w lol

What a treat ❤️

GPU basically idle

[solemn harness]

76% is basically idle..? lol

[last cedar]

Nice temps

poe 2 gets me to like 80s

[summer sun]

76% at 1200mhz mate

This is a 7800XT it can do almost 2900mhz

On linux it will just clock up and stay below 90% usage so latency stays low.

The usage will stay around 80% and the GPU just clocks up.

It can go up to 300w

[summer sun]

Temps go up quick on these cards haha.. In combat it will spike a bit but I repasted the card so 😛

Stock asrock paste application wasn't pretty. Look how much that is pushed away from the GPU lol.

Put one of these badboys on it and the hotspot reduced by 20c and im doing 250mhz higher clocks @last cedar

[last cedar]

crazy how thermal paste can make a difference in temps\

im too lazy to reapply mines

[summer sun]

This is a thermal pad that will phase change above 45c. So after a few cycles it sets in, and then it transfers heat very well. It doesn't become fluid, so it doesn't pump out, and it lasts 8 years.

[abstract karma]

try do it in laptop 😄

either way his cpu goes on max clock which is second reason why he reach 120 fps

[summer sun]

I used it on a handheld before, helped alot.

On laptops it's great, you just want to apply alot of pressure on the heatsink over the first couple weeks, while it sets.

It's made for laptops mostly, but GPUs really love it too, and for longevity it's better than paste

And yeah I keep CPU pinned at max clock for frametime stability, then let the GPU fluctuate, RDNA3 works better that way

[gilded elm]

GPUs and CPUs today are rated to run at their maximum temperature (80C-90C) for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for the entirety of their lifespan (over a decade). So long as you are within those temps, it ultimately doesn't matter how utilized or hot they are.

[summer sun]

Very true. But i was running below advertised speeds because of the stock paste application

It would do over 100c hotspot at 2500mhz

Which is very close to max temp

With the pad does 84c in furmark at almost 2850mhz

[gilded elm]

If it ever exceeds 90C, it's a problem worth investigating in any case for sure.

[summer sun]

And dont have to repaste the pad for 7 years

After 1500 cycles it reaches peak performance

It was hotter than my 6800xt which makes zero sense because the 7800xt is basically the same performance card and sometimes lower. But with less power usage.

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/Otwlsl3H2Q

Hhhhhh
The best le meme I seen

Steve said he was burst into laughing

[ebon meadow]

sounds about right YEP

[fluid vault]

@bright crescent 8/8 bosses perfected live on stream yesterday

[bright crescent]

wowza

[simple needle]

i love blazblue

[fierce moth]

It's interesting if le get spotlight as a big banner on steam page again

Alright, money on Fiverr stick on the transaction due to my Visa card is debit card. The system support Visa credit card only

[cyan arch]

me today

[fierce moth]

But the money on Patreon available to withdraw finally... Danish currency is worked.
🫠

But these Danish Krone available for spending on international websites only. Can't transfer to Chinese bank card.

Still that opinion. I want a Danish ID, a Danish visa card and a Danish phone number.

I like Denmark.

[tawny sand]

cool game https://store.steampowered.com/app/1749860/Lushfoil_Photography_Sim/

[fierce moth]

Ok explored a bit, Paypal is available in many 3d assets websites... Blendermarket, Artstation, Patreon, SketchUp texture club, poliigon... But steam don't support Paypal

[tawny sand]

i use paypal on steam

[fierce moth]

Hah?...oh maybe different regions then

[tawny sand]

maybe, i'm in the US

[fierce moth]

Oh ok only China don't support Paypal...

Switch to Hong Kong then it is worked

[fierce moth]

Wait, don't sleep time for US now 👀

Even New York time is 07:29 only

[tawny sand]

I wake up at 6 AM