📚┃off-topic

[wanton sapphire]

My titan barely had 300 max mana cause I had like 50% reduced max mana from tree

[fierce moth]

archamage, so yeah both of offense and defense depend on your max mana

[wanton sapphire]

Oh fair

Did you have that max mana to energy shield amulet

[fierce moth]

yeah I tried, not help my build so much

[wanton sapphire]

Rip

[fierce moth]

Get more spirit on amulet to get blink to move faster is more helpful

I heard new ascendency will out later, I want to try that. None of current ascendencies I'm interested

All of ascendencies I'm interested I tried already, stormweaver and deadeye

[hasty grail]

who else tryna grab a 9070 xt or a 5 series card

[narrow token]

I got a 4070TI ~2 years ago, so I'm good for a while.

[blissful token]

Feels like dmg in full version mhwilds is too dang high

Monster dies so fast

[fallow vessel]

is this another example of damage sponge fanbase or something happened that wasn't in world and rice

[blissful token]

Idk... i dont play rise and yea monster dont die that fast in world, at least during story

And i am pretty much comparing the full version with the beta

[desert jasper]

The game is easier than world tbh
I bullied one of the monsters so hard in early game that it was just constantly knocked down and couldn't do a thing
with the starting weapon even

[desert jasper]

Oh and the wound system also allows for way faster hunts

[blissful token]

pretty abusable yea, not sure if it fixes the problem of forced tenderizing in world

also the awkwardness when 2 players clutch on

[desert jasper]

Man I didn't realy like the claw in world

[fierce moth]

https://www.instagram.com/fan.xuewei?igsh=b3FpbXoxOGN0bnox

I don't know how he think these complicated sci-fi abstract architectures just base on these daily scenes...Too crazy

Life limit his location but never can limit his imagination... Impressive

Learnt a lot from his works.

He likes his life so much... 👍

[fierce moth]

do d4's mode is players need to purchase a pass per season to access new contents?

lol That's an interesting contrast

[junior oyster]

For season only content it's a cosmetics pass

Only thing you have to pay for are expansions

[fierce moth]

Not sure what the meaning of first respond but I understand the second respond, thanks

[junior oyster]

Season content is free but you can pay for seasonal passes to earn in-game cosmetics by doing a journey of sorts

[maiden widget]

its like poe's atlas pass basically

full access to new content, paid microtransactions, paid season pass

[junior oyster]

Funny you say that but poe has its own season journey that you can pay for

[maiden widget]

yeah that's what i meant with atlas pass, forgot the name for it

[ivory swift]

kirac's vault pass

[twilit mountain]

It's this. I personally think they're kinda shit. $30 for like 4 mystery boxes and a usually lackluster af armor set. Compared to the old one where we got unique skins and boxes, current version is such a downgrade.

D4 pass kinda sweeps imho. $10, has premium currency in it, has multiple armor sets, weapon skins, mounts, and other effects.

[ivory swift]

Not a fan with battle passes in general, so PoE not having a good one is almost better IMO, less FOMO

[twilit mountain]

Except... PoE does have one?

We're literally talking about it?

Like, the free side of it basically makes it so the fastest groups to map completion have an even higher advantage due to having currencies, or simulacrums, or guardian maps etc etc

[ivory swift]

It's not that impactful, the free side of it is only a very very very small fraction of what the top end groups use. They get divines per map once they get started (for the higher end groups) what's a few maven chisles?

[twilit mountain]

what's a few maven chisles?
A few Maven chisels is the difference from a T17 dropping you 20c and it dropping you like 10 raw divs

[ivory swift]

yes, but the price of the chisels aren't much to begin with. Nor are they in a quantity that means a whole lot for these players. I think you are putting WAY too much value in the free battlepass items.

[twilit mountain]

So you've never paid for chisels then because half of them will pull you multiple divines for less than one stack

[fallow vessel]

my LE gameplay in 2160 is so close yet so far

[ivory swift]

depends on the chisels, there are 5 of them. The ones you get from the battle pass isn't worth anywhere close to what you are suggesting. I can't remember if they are random or not, if they are then I got unlucky 😛

[ivory swift]

....Here I am still using a 1080

[fallow vessel]

I would too if it didn't get to me being historically stuck to 2160p

1080p makes it a soap opera

[ivory swift]

well I have an old screen, It couldn't even properly display 2160

[twilit mountain]

They're random.

[ivory swift]

i need a new computer, just waiting to see how AMD cards shape up price wise

[fallow vessel]

mine does and gets very annoyed if I try to stretch anything smaller on it

[twilit mountain]

Scarab, pack, and currency all sell very, VERY well

[ivory swift]

highly dependent on which ones you get. Can be anywhere from divines to 1c

[fallow vessel]

most games perform okay in 1080p even on 7600 I have right now

[twilit mountain]

I literally just named the ones that sell...

[ivory swift]

ah for a second thought you were talking about scarbs in general, and was trying to remember if scarabs even drop from the pass lol

[ivory swift]

yeah, if running 1080p a lot of cards can run that, except for monster hunter wilds 😛

[fallow vessel]

reminder that mh world performed okay on rx570

[ivory swift]

oh I know, world worked even on my old GTX 1080. They really screwed over wilds

[fallow vessel]

basically 6800xt will allow me to brute force it even more

benchmark says average in 1440p is 63

on low-med

which is just fine by me

but I need 2160

[ivory swift]

yeah that should be pretty solid, I was eyeing a 9070 but not sure if they are going to be scalped to hell

[fallow vessel]

in some games I need just a tiny 10-15 for stable 60 @ 2160

[fallow vessel]

$300 for the 6800xt that seems to match my needs vs $1100 for 9070xt, hell nah it's clear as day I'll take my options

[ivory swift]

that's the thing though, the MSRP was like $650 or something, was hoping that it's not designed for AI functions that scalpers might leave it (mostly) alone

[fallow vessel]

compared to cuda, it's planet away from being good for AI

in any case, MSRP is a myth for paid blogger ad

because AMD shat its pants with this

[ivory swift]

well for Nvida at least

[fallow vessel]

since it's same cartel as Nvidia

[ivory swift]

yeah... was hoping they would try to corner the gaming market because Nvidia is abandoning it

instead they are kind of just playing the same game, even being a few steps behind

In either case I'm probably going full AMD on my new computer once I save up a little more for it

I have no faith in intel anymore, Nvidia is long gone from caring about gaming, so all that's left is AMD

[fallow vessel]

less and less

word is on the streets that they consider heavily investing in AI slop too

[ivory swift]

Bah, it's a fools game IMO. Nvidia has such a massive lead on them, I don't expect them to catch up unless they are offering non public cards I don't know about. As for gaming frame gen and upscaling is generally undesirable for most people, especially when game developers are heavy handed in using it as a base line instead of an option for higher end (frame gen) or lower end (upscaling) PC's.

The fact Wilds uses both as a base line recommended is an affront to gamers.

worried more companies will take the lazy way out and do the same thing

[fierce moth]

emmmm no teasers GGG released just now attract me

I want GGG solve the inflation issue first

No experience without enough currencies in stash to trade something

[ivory swift]

Generally the early teasers are just minor fixes/bonuses. All the major stuff is revealed on the reveal trailer/announcement.
Yeah the inflation is pretty silly. Not sure why they changed magic find so that it effected currencies. It explicitly didn't in PoE1 because they knew it would cause problems.

[fallow vessel]

I would like to not have 20 fps in city

[narrow token]

Not crashing so bad my pc has to be restarted would be nice too. But that was a couple months ago, idk if they ever fixed it.

[blissful token]

nubbbb, didja see the teased perfection support gem?

Then again, its only 15% more dmg at max stack, dont we have higher value from other gems for 6-linked perfect strike already? I forgor

[desert jasper]

🤷‍♂️

[fierce moth]

Xdddddd
Thank you, too good 😊

[fallow vessel]

that's too much effort

[fierce moth]

The most funny point is step 1.
Well... I'm doing this step because I don't know what should I post.
Complicated and wonderful artworks needs inspirations, skills and patience 🙃

[indigo shadow]

happy mar10 day folks.

[fierce moth]

Anyone know which type of architecture on the background of this photo?

[vagrant topaz]

Looks like a Gothic European Cathedral

[fierce moth]

Holy 😅🤣 they're all looks super extreme pretty complicated

But that'll be an interesting challenge for creating the own one by voxel style 🤔

Ok, new goal: York Minster, from Ave's location

[vagrant topaz]

Oh, been there a couple times !
Its really beautiful

[fierce moth]

I'm jealous about Europeans can access so many complicated architectures...

[vagrant topaz]

I think its because you are not from here ^^
I really like Eastern/Asian architecture
I found it new and interesting
I have seen too many Eur Churches ^^

[fierce moth]

I guess I start to understand how EHG figure out temporal sanctum and imperial wrylrn now

[ebon meadow]

Wait who is from York ?

[fierce moth]

I never see a church under this level in real life so...

[fierce moth]

Ave is the British, England is part of UK so...

[ebon meadow]

York minster was mentioned lol I m from there to

And Kirra try Barcelona Sagrada familia

Have fun with architecture

Oh the one in Sevilla can't remember name

[fierce moth]

That's too cool then because you can help me fixing potential mistakes I will make on structure

The experience I got from temporal sanctum maybe can help me a bit 😎

[indigo shadow]

can we post link here?

[ember lake]

Yep, links are okay though they won't embed. Images do if you upload them to Discord

[ember lake]

I'm not from York, but not too far from there. I'm Liverpool 🙂

[indigo shadow]

Since it's Mar10 day, it is appropriate to paste this here https://ocremix.org/album/70/super-cartography-bros

Thank you Averielle for making Manchester United fans a living hell

unless you're Everton fans like sir Paul McCartney

[ember lake]

I'm also an Evertonian.... but we're proud of our Red cousins for their hard work xD

[indigo shadow]

Nottingham Forest as a dark horse is interesting.

Tottenham, Newcastle, Aston Villa on lower than 5th place is scary.

[ember lake]

Not really, I remember Leicester City a few years back

[indigo shadow]

from 5th place to relegation to EFL? 😂

But IMO Fulham, Newcastle should be in Champions League though

just to prank the European

[ember lake]

The 2015-2016 Season, they had 5k - 1 odds to win and then went and did it

Oh god that was a decade ago...

[fierce moth]

Lol 😅 I don't think it's not too far away from York

[ember lake]

Only 100 or so miles, 2hrs. That's not far in UK terms 😅

[fierce moth]

160m needs 2h!?

[ember lake]

Driving, yeah. That's motorways, countryroads, city/town roads - all have different speed limits

[twilit mountain]

Two hours is like, a pretty normal day trip in US terms

[fierce moth]

Ohhhh 100mile = 160 km, make sense

I need to cross 45km to eat a matcha 🍦 so come and back in total is 90km

[ebon meadow]

My favourite flavours for now ,I m not addicted I promis

[ebon meadow]

Scouser spotted lul, watched Everton few times here in Spain

Old champions league

[fierce moth]

Time is passed quickly, spent 3h on sculpturing the base lol

[wanton sapphire]

Solid base

[ember lake]

Is that actually York Cathedral? Nice! I've been there, it's beautiful in person!

[fierce moth]

York Minster Cathedral, yeah

🥱 I need a good sleep after worked on that 3h

[ebon meadow]

Could of started on something lil easier maybe castle Howard

I don't actually remember if I been to minster but old town sub shops looked amazing

Best part for me was the Guy Fawkes grave right on top of my street

Wasn't born there but have visited few times

Also it was a bit weird having a medieval wall surrounding main city but very cool since u could walk on it

[fallow vessel]

first one is pretty good

[hardy crane]

@covert summit you need this
https://www.geeksoutfit.com/products/ohh-this-calls-for-a-spreadsheet-geek-t-shirt

[covert summit]

LOL yea

except I use google sheets xd

[mental talon]

SSF Mageblood, ACHIEVED.

[narrow token]

I don't get it. But congrats.

[desert jasper]

One of the rarest & most powerful items in game
in solo self found

[junior oyster]

Too bad it's worth nothing trade wise.

[fervent hazel]

what stats would the effect of 3 magic utility flasks usually give, depending on build different, but in your example? Is it anything crazy like 10k armor + etc?

if i had this in my r ssf hc run, i would go mapping. got bored after story and stopped

[twilit mountain]

It goes up to 4 flasks. And... a lot. You can easily get curse immune, or at least +9% max res to all elemental resistances, or stun immune, or a ton of regen, or a loooot of armor/evasion, or permanent onslaught, etc etc

[mental talon]

Yeah it's just 3 flask because that's what it popped out of my Div card trade in as (gambled 1 Apo to 5, finished my Mace, perfectly Sacred Orbed my Sacred Chainmail, and dropped another Replica Alberon Warpath). This has been one of the best feelings I've had in one continuous gaming session in PoE in a long time ngl

[ember lake]

Oh my glob... I need it!

Though yeah I use G-Sheets too 😅

[ember lake]

The actual Liverpudlian in my life say 'You're Welcome' 😂

[fervent hazel]

anything + maxres makes me feel excited. +9 is insane. they nerfed the max maxres you can have at some point, no? i dont remember what i had back then on my supp guardian

[twilit mountain]

Maximum resistance is 90% now, iirc it used to get to 99%?

Oh mb it sued to be 100% lmao

[fervent hazel]

i believe so. the best feeling in the world, when you could like half incoming elemental dmg with "just" 1% increase to maxres

[twilit mountain]

It's still really potent, maxres is one of the best layers in the game

[fierce moth]

😵 I want to be an Serbian. Eat meat eevryday. Eat plenty of MEAT.

[fierce moth]

oh 🤔

I 'm thinking who get the opal badge in this server... Then I find Agent and Muffin

[twilit mountain]

Kek. Mine will never work properly because payment lapses constantly.

[fierce moth]

I know why everyone in EHG will talk about how to balance work and life suddenly...

Because even my cat know that. Well she don't know these things but she will keep meowing to attract me so I need to stop my work and play with her for a while.

[fierce moth]

More close to the roof of the pillar 💤

[mental talon]

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1899559310583312571

[abstract karma]

@unique creek
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3734468/page/1#p26002727

So much for hype train.. A lot of ppl i know wanted try Huntress

[unique creek]

yeah...hype is very real

why are you talking like no one is talking about this?

[abstract karma]

Because it's killing Last Epoch... A lot of ppl which are bored of PoE 2 waiting would gladly switch to Last Epoch once again but with this bad timing and new content of new class..

[junior oyster]

Who cares about some stupid hunter. All I want in poe2 is a real necromancer asc not some stupid infernalist or gemlol

And yea LE isn't too good for me but we'll see about the new season

[ivory swift]

will at least have 2 days of LE before PoE 😛

But that's the nice thing, both leagues will likely last longer then most people's play time, so just play one for awhile, then switch to the other

For me I like trade in PoE, so will likely play that first, then switch over to LE because they have a much better SSF

[past breach]

Welp, PoE2 decided to f*** over Last Epoch. Let's boycott it!

[past breach]

LE is WAY better than PoE2 right now, ESPECIALLY after season 2 drops, PoE2 is getting hardly anything in comparision, still has a terrible endgame, and overall way worse than LE

[past breach]

Infernalist is actually quite fun. At first I wasn't sold, but playing it made me like it more (It's the endgame I don't like, not the ascendancies)

I'm guessing witch's 3rd ascendancy will be a chaos damage mage

[ivory swift]

We haven't seen the content in PoE2 yet, these are just teasers. In either case I love both games. As I said I'll end up playing both leagues, PoE2 trade you HAVE to play early or you hit inflation, as for LE SSF is king espeically vs POE2

[past breach]

As much as it pains me to say, I would fully support LE season 2 being pushed back 2-4 weeks beause of PoE2

[past breach]

I agree that I like SSF in LE, and trade in PoE2, and inflation sucks

Like it was easy early to buy stuff for like 1 exalt but now exalts aren't worth anything and you can't even buy anything for 10

I'm not excited to play druid or huntress (do we know what the new class is?) and I Doubt they change end game or add act 4 so PoE2 is unlikely to have enough to make me want to play HOWEVER I guess if it does I should play it instead of LE since I'll mostly play LE solo

Sucks to say it though

I've nothing to play all month or last month and now 2 games I love are dropping expansions within 2 days of each other >.<

[ivory swift]

Again these are just teasers, they will likely make changes to the end game because they already said they would in an interview, also they will likely be adding more content in terms of rehashed league mechanics from PoE1. Act 4 is unlikely as they mentioned before there is funny logics around that, but who knows maybe they have a sollution. Regardless LE will be fine, there isn't a 100% overlap of players, a good number of players prefer LE over PoE1/2. For everyone else they will join in on LE after a few weeks.

[past breach]

Sure there's not a 100% overlap, but probably 60% or 70% and that's a HUGE number. And of that 60% or 70%, probably most like PoE2 more. (Sadly)

I think GGG is doing it on purpose to screw over EHG

And to say like "we don't care about you, you're not a threat to us"

and I think it's dumb of GGG because they'll have less players overall but whatever

They said they would change the endgame maybe, but THIS patch? idk

[mental talon]

Nah

[ivory swift]

they are doing simutaniouse launches with console, which needs patches approved by xbox and sony often weeks before launch

[eager ridge]

https://vxtwitter.com/HYPEX/status/1899521015299891510

last epoch x fortnite collab when

[fierce moth]

Lol

That's too funny now

Poe 2 and le is dueling seriously this time exactly

[junior oyster]

Yea maybe for non-minion builds but other than the hound and reserving spirit for minions it's not a minion asc and especially not a necro at that

[fierce moth]

I need to learn both of 0.2.0 update note and 1.2 update note in the end of March xddddd

[junior oyster]

I barely care for either

Only upside for LE season is offline play

[fierce moth]

Let's see what something fun will happen 😄

The only info I know clearly is I'll quite busy in April

GGG delayed a week as they mentioned 0.2.0 update will coming soon for one month

[past breach]

Well sorry you feel that way. I think having an ignite bot was VERY useful for my NECROMANCER that raised UNDEAD SKELETON ARCHERS that happen to have fiery explosions in need of ignition

I don't even use the "reserve spirit" crap because more spirit doesn't matter, an explosion is an explosion, why would I lose 25% HP, ES, or Mana for spirit?

[junior oyster]

Bot?

[fierce moth]

Let's check out how many players will play le / Poe 2 when their update is live and after a week

[past breach]

I admit that makes the entire ascendancy feel clunky for me, but at least the hell hound worked and it still feels necromancy

[junior oyster]

Sorry what do you mean by bot?

[past breach]

a bot is something that does something automatically where you don't need to control it or tell it to

hell hound = bot

it goes around igniting things

pretty simple

[junior oyster]

Ah yea I'm aware of that

[past breach]

well PoE2 is going to have more players because they're the bigger, more well known company NOT because the game OR the update is better

they're just being bullies

[junior oyster]

I thought you meant you were playing with an aurabot or something

[past breach]

ah no

I don't know if the ascndancy is perfect, but it works and it's differnet and fun for me

I do wish it didn't cost 25% of my life or mana to get a small amount of spirit

(I was dumb and did a life build, not ES, because I didn't know life sucked)

[junior oyster]

It's ok at best for me. Would just like a proper asc for minions that's all

[past breach]

I'd like a better/different one, but I doubt it'll come from the witch unfortunately

[junior oyster]

I had hellhound and reserved life for spirit and es

No there won't be necro

Hence my complaining

[past breach]

As I said above, my GUESS is that the witch will get a shadowy-based ascendancy for them "necro" damage spells. I think infernalist is supposed to be its minion ascendnacy

You know what game DOES have a necro? 😉

[junior oyster]

Diablo 3

[past breach]

Last Epoch?

😛

[junior oyster]

It sucks

The necro in le

[past breach]

Diablo 3's necro is not what I want in a necro

I'm sorry you feel that way

Necro is my favorite class in LE

[junior oyster]

The only necro I like is from grim dawn

[past breach]

my favorite necro is from PoE1, but I like LE

[junior oyster]

I hate how certain bosses would melt my minions in LE lol

[past breach]

I got to the point where I could do everything EXCEPT Aberroth 😕

[junior oyster]

If I build minion stats then I die instead

[junior oyster]

Same

[past breach]

at 300 corruption, I die more often than my minions and it's either player skill (I suck) or my gear is just not good enough

[junior oyster]

Player skill and gear in my case

[past breach]

but at least my minions don't usually die (there are a few mob types that do like the ones that continously spew out fire? but usually minions don't die at corruption 300 for me)

[past breach]

EXACTLY! lol

[junior oyster]

I specifically built gear for stuff like resists etc but somehow I'd still die

[past breach]

yup same

[junior oyster]

Also I have no issues with abbers guardians

[past breach]

hmm well maybe it'll get better if we can turn some of our pieces into set pieces. Or those new runes that are coming to make the best out of otherwise trash exalteds

[junior oyster]

But the skill gap when facing abbers is much higher

[past breach]

Maybe it'll make gearing easier and stronger

[past breach]

same

[past breach]

Yup I agree

Welp off to bed. Later

[fierce moth]

GGG is trying so hard to hold community events to keep player base and call players come back xd

Ok I'll know should I come back after Mar. 27th.
No necessary if no economy reset they planned.

[junior oyster]

Economy reset will barely do anything anyway lol

They need more than a reset and some new class/asc

[tawny sand]

didn't even know they were doing a fate remaster https://store.steampowered.com/app/3030720/FATE_Reawakened/

[twilit mountain]

Yea I saw that recently, wish I had money

Nvm got it

[fierce moth]

Holy, tq 2 release the test suddenly

👀 New ARPG available to spend my time

[fierce moth]

why this level of visual effects and graphics can sell this price?!

[twilit mountain]

They're a remaster of rather old games. 2005, 2008, 2009, and 2011

[fierce moth]

March & April & May will be my ARPG Hype duration

I'm glad my birthday isn't in April

[tawny sand]

idk, i rather play an old looking game that has fun gameplay than a great looking game that has bad gameplay

[fierce moth]

I will play neither

tq server is hyped now hhhh

[tawny sand]

i've actually never played fate, worth picking up? I know it's beloved, but i don't know how deep it is

if it's like torchlight i'll probably enjoy it tho

[maiden widget]

I was hyped for suikoden but I really dislike the hd looking background with pixel figures it just looks... Off

[tawny sand]

ah that's sad to hear, i love suikoden

i haven't played the remasters though

[twilit mountain]

They're pretty old so have some clunk, and at least the first doesn't have a campaign really (not sure on the others in the series there), but it has a rather interesting system to them of being able to basically scale a specific item of your choosing "infinitely" as once you "complete" the dungeon you're able to select an item to be passed down to your successor character.

I'd say it's on the light end of depth (again, speaking for the first game cus I have no personal experience with the rest of the series lmao) but it's pretty good fun and is a classic no matter what. Worst case scenario the original is usually mega cheap if you wanna try it before paying for remasters.

[fierce moth]

Cool

[twilit mountain]

[fierce moth]

🤔 Never play titan quest, let's test how friendly this game for a new player

Maybe end the drama between EHG and GGG is... Play tq 2 instead XD

[twilit mountain]

Time to put Steve to shame /s

[past breach]

TQ is ok, but not nearly as fun as LE or PoE2 or PoE1. It's basically grim dawn

[solemn harness]

I mean.. I would hope so? Grim Dawn uses Titan Quest's engine, and Crate Entertainment was founded by members of Iron Lore Entertainment (.. which made TQ1), lol.

[candid sage]

oh, didnt know TQ had a playtest available. maybe this can fill the hole in march

[fierce moth]

wow, wow, wow

I'm a visual animal. I check how the environment looks at first. It's wonderful. Through the fps counter from steam works in a weird way...

[maiden widget]

I remember it being cool but I was a small kid when I played. Currently playing chrono trigger

[fierce moth]

holy tq 2 demo heat my GPU so hard...

[vagrant topaz]

Oo only 16gb
I might be able to dwl it by the end of the week 💀😂

[tawny sand]

i got access too

and also have slow internet lol

only gonna take 2 hours 😭

[vagrant topaz]

Took 15h to dwl Split Faction

85 gb

[tawny sand]

that would take me a whole day probably

[vagrant topaz]

Can't wait to move.
My new house will have optic fiber
Hopefully it will be better

[tawny sand]

nice

[twilit mountain]

Mine downloaded in like 15 minutes while I'm in a VC, running a game (and streaming it to aforementioned VC), and streaming music 🫠

[maiden widget]

just requested access, lets see when it gets accepted 😄

[twilit mountain]

Took me all of 10 minutes to get accepted

[tawny sand]

wow thanks for flexing 😠

[maiden widget]

gonna boot up heretical as it got patched until i get in 😄

[sand wigeon]

Me when the most beautiful games I've ever played are cheaper than even that:

[twilit mountain]

I'm sorrrryyyyy, we have surprisingly good internet access here

[sand wigeon]

Peak is around 90MB's a second

[twilit mountain]

Whoa, okay, not that good Lil

[sand wigeon]

MEGABYTES MEGABYTES

LMAO

[twilit mountain]

You should be getting higher, you're wired. I get higher than that on wireless.

[sand wigeon]

I get 30MB's a sec lol

[twilit mountain]

Weird

[sand wigeon]

It's not

I'm on a very shitty extender

[tawny sand]

tbh i could switch to faster internet but all the packages have data caps

and i hate data caps

so i just suffer i guess lol

[twilit mountain]

"Why am I getting performance issues in every game today"
remembers I haven't restarted my laptop in like 9 days

[twilit mountain]

Ouch. That's tough.

[sand wigeon]

(Pyre, The Long Dark, OKami HD, Wolfstride, Inscryption and The Pale Beyond are all $20 or under and extremely beautiful)

(Notable mentions that don't fit into the "under $20" frame are Sable, Outer Wilds and RIME)

[wanton sapphire]

@light cave I kinda disagree that maurader is the bit between warrior and huntress, that’s more duelist to me

[twilit mountain]

SABLE MY BELOVED
WTF IS A BAD EXPERIENCE

[light cave]

Duelist wasn't even in the beta

so warrior was the best we got

[wanton sapphire]

Neither is maurader

Where’s my boi

[light cave]

Maurauder was in the alpha

kind of

no ascendancies yet

but we got his skills

can't really say more

[wanton sapphire]

Oh you were in the closed alpha

Fair enough don’t say more and break your nda

[light cave]

yeah him and huntress are very similar but like the str/dex version of one another

[wanton sapphire]

I c

[tawny sand]

the long dark is my favorite survival game

but i honestly only ever played like 200 hours in sandbox or something

i didn't care for the story so didnt' finish it

[fierce moth]

I'm trying to understand how this panel work but I'm failed

[tawny sand]

i have no idea

i guess you can modify spells/attacks?

kind of like uh, what were they called in diablo 3?

[twilit mountain]

Runes?

[tawny sand]

oh yeah okay, i thought it was runes

but i was like "no runes are what d2 and d4 have"

[sand wigeon]

Sable is so pretty

[sand wigeon]

thats fine too

[twilit mountain]

Aw, poison skills don't seem to be in the TQ2 playtest yet. I'll settle for lightning spells ig.

[fierce moth]

Call lightning is quite strong but ice shards is super weak

[fierce moth]

@misty meteor Your pc should get better performance than me if you play tq 2 playtest. This is my case

(because I get your pc have better GPU)

[twilit mountain]

Alright hold on... TQ2 skill system is pretty neat

[misty meteor]

I think i'll wait for public EA. I want to level some characters to end of campaign in LE for season 2

[maiden widget]

hmm still no invite

damn i shouldve complained earlier, just came in

[sleek horizon]

@thorny summit banished here, so answering here
Exhibit A does not have anything about 'not affecting development', just thoughts on how both games can share some things (models, etc) (wrong timing?)
Exhibit B finally has something that can be interpreted that way, ty

but it can as easily be interpreted as what I said, continued support for both that does not interfere with each other

but I can see how it frustrates people

[livid orchid]

It's clear to me that PoE 1 is now just their testing ground for what to add to PoE 2. Phrecia event they just added all the crazy experimental ideas they could. That's why there's 19 new ascendencies. I would suggest that's a pretty big way PoE 2 existing has affected PoE 1's gameplay.
The devs dont even take PoE 1 serious anymore haha

[sleek horizon]

almost all those ascendancies are unique items without downsides

unique items that already exist in the game

[livid orchid]

And it's just filler since the last 8-9 months will have been the same exact league. No new league in a year, that's a pretty big effect on PoE 1 as well.

People were lucky to get an event.

[sleek horizon]

I'm not sure how that relates to anything I said

but I'm not arguing with that

[fierce moth]

🤔 Requirement for gears in tq 2 is interesting

I want to reset my points but I don't know how to reset. My armour is too poor but I can't wear these armours...

[wanton sapphire]

Which game is this

[thorny summit]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1154030/Titan_Quest_II/

[wanton sapphire]

Yo

[fierce moth]

The first rare item I get

[livid orchid]

What is the loot like? I'm hoping rare items are actually rare to find and not handed out like candy on halloween.

[narrow token]

About to jump in. Wish me luck.

[desert jasper]

I also requested access
about... 3hours ago

Not that I'd play it today anymore because it's getting late

[fierce moth]

Good news:
I stuck on the first boss combat, tq 2

Time to take a shower and sleep...yeah

[narrow token]

Is okay I guess

[fierce moth]

@small sky interested in trying titan quest 2?

[small sky]

Have been keeping an eye on it actually. Might be a fun one to give a shot, but not building up any expectations for it.
🤭
Hard to say how the cookie will crumble.

[wet pier]

Was the original titan quest the grim dawn team?

[narrow token]

The vfx are very "pretty". Better than most, even LE in fact.

[small sky]

It looks nice, just iffy on how the gameplay will actually feel once I can get my hand on it haha

[maiden widget]

fun demo plays nice and has some cool things to explore

[timid obsidian]

Yes. They bought the engine they made for TQ on the cheap and built on it

[past breach]

I guess it'd be advised to not spend points from lvel up until ineed them? I don't remember TQ1 much but I think maybe level up was similar to GD

I plan to play TQ2 when I get home from work. I got the email 😄

[narrow token]

That lightning strike attack TANKED my framerate whenever I used it. :\

[ebon meadow]

I still have first TQ to try lol have some weird edition I got never played it

Never nuff time

[fierce moth]

Go on figuring out how to make the side window after getting up 🫡

holy 15mins left before 4:00...

I hope I can have 30h per day

[vagrant topaz]

It looks real good !!!

[tawny sand]

tq2 seems like it'll be alright

game's been closing for 15 mintues though lol

i don't know what's up

[narrow token]

I kind of breezed through the demo. I don't feel much need to try new things though, tbh.

[tawny sand]

gotcha

yah, the survey asked about itemization and stuff but the demo wasn't really a good inclination what it will be like tbh

i mostly just got magics, which is fine, but it didn't give me a good scope on what all the systems would be like really at higher levels

don't know if it has enchanting or crafting or anything either

it asked if i wanted to request to join the closed beta but i declined, i'm not really a good tester

[narrow token]

Yeah me neither. I don't have that "tester" mindset. I play games for fun, not to break them.

[past breach]

TQ2 seems very meh to me. Lightning/cold mage class has only 2 abilities to chose from and one has no damage. You can augment them in different ways but most of them have huge downsides so you wouldn't even want to. All seems very meh.

Can't attack while moving which is become par for the course now. Can't move while the mini-map is up. Can't change all hot keys.

Game is just a clunky new version of TQ1, nothing to see here.

[solemn harness]

I agree, TQ2 in it's current state is an extremely boring game. Visuals look great, that's about it.

I played it for 71 minutes and it was a struggle to bring myself to even play it for that long.

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhh the truth ⬇️

[fierce moth]

@past breach @tawny sand
I wonder how are you kill the first boss, Gryphon. All of you have found a boots bonus your movement speed?

The dragon move pretty fast so I must keep running. But I can't attack when I'm running...

Health potion can use twice time only then I can't recharge that anymore because no enemy I can kill

[twilit mountain]

They don't recharge on kill. They recharge from dealing damage.

[fierce moth]

Just cooked a sleeping gif. Goodnight, NA/SA people

(How hot the weather is? Check out your cat)

[eager ridge]

96% gpu usage and 21% cpu usage? looks good

[fierce moth]

Holy, I know which videos I want to watch finally

Top 100 3d xxxx montage

[fierce moth]

That's the preformance under epic graphic.
60+% GPU usage only after I adjusted it to low graphic.

But meet with 25c+ weather... Heat up is unavoidable

[eager ridge]

you want 100% gpu

its cpu you dont want at 100%

[fierce moth]

Neither heating is good

[solemn harness]

the game is just badly optimized, if too many call lightnings go off on like.. a level 3 character.. your FPS drops by 75% or more lol

(and "too many" in this context is like, 5+ at once)

[maiden widget]

Had no movement speed and just dodge rolled and took pots when needed then used heavy attack with my bow

[twilit mountain]

I just spammed Call Lightning. Funny skill. Would like to play more tbh.

[fierce moth]

Lol me too...

No reason to cast Ice shards, damage is too poor

[twilit mountain]

I didn't even try Ice Shards, my priorities for skills are poison = interesting physical > lightning > earth/fire depending on flavor > cold

[fierce moth]

ok Time to jump in the design of floors... (I'm just doing quick testing)

[hollow coral]

Yo, if USA is so exceptional then why did they ||invent USB?||

[south gust]

Because ||USC|| would have been taking things too far. But the ||UFC|| is perfectly fine

[hollow coral]

[ebon meadow]

Walking on a fine line here holy lol

[fierce moth]

The first joke Wick said which I understand

[ebon meadow]

edgy puns that is all no harm at all

and it was indy-amercian invention xd

[tawny sand]

that's a pretty wick-ed pun

[fierce moth]

🫡 I'm surrendered. Just overwhelming hard...

The difficulty is I must move my cursor on the enemy to attack, otherwise it's no sense.

[narrow token]

Takes practice.

You likely have more experience with arpgs than I do, and I was able to do that fight in 3-4 tries. You'll get it.

[fierce moth]

You're amazing

I asked help in tq server, adjusted my skill points and upgraded my gears, none of them is worked

[solemn harness]

the wave attack you keep getting hit by despawns after a fixed distance, you're just not dodging it correctly lol

[vagrant topaz]

Also you didnt use the barrier

[solemn harness]

try standing on the right side instead of the left, and stand further away so you can practice dodging more

all of the gryphon's attacks have wind-up animations before they actually deal damage, you have around 1 second to react to the animation starting before any damage occurs

[fierce moth]

🫡 Holy god I pass this combat finally

[vagrant topaz]

GG!

[fierce moth]

👀 ok I don't expect the demo is so short

I'm done now

[vagrant topaz]

Yup ^^

[fierce moth]

My feeling of demo

tq 2 is much more fun than dragonkin even too less contents available so far

🫡 My ARPG list after tried two new ones:

1. Titian quest 2
2. Lash epoch
3. Path of exile 2
4. Maybe some path of exile

[vagrant topaz]

Isnt it a bit early to put TQ2 on top, when we can only play with 1/20th of the game ?

Havent seen any real itemisation, Skills, only 3 masteries

[fierce moth]

No order on the list, it's random :)

🤭 so it'll become the battlefield for Nordic, GGG and EHG in the future. I hope Nordic don't lose the access by what will tq 2 going...

Time to cook pasta. I'm hungry

[vagrant topaz]

What kind ? And do you have a favourite ?

[fierce moth]

fettuccine, any sauce is fine except tomato & minced meat. With sliced sausage or roasted chicken

I never eat lasagna

emmmmmm hard to review....

For anyone who completed or played tq 2 demo: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeGFksM05GrfD996u79CSMr1nIiEpmGcEnZunZm7mKwLIljpA/formResponse

That's the survey I mentioned

the survey is quite interesting because it let me know which jobs a ARPG need to do well if they want to improve the game

I fill 4/10 only but I feel the survey is designed carefully

[twilit mountain]

Just finished filling it out on my end c:
Hope my feedback on some things reaches the right people; I enjoyed the demo quite a bit, personally, even with my few issues.

[fierce moth]

👀 I want to know which option have you chose on this question

😆 🤔 .

[twilit mountain]

I said yeah I'd buy it in EA. I don't mind buying things in early access as long as the devs are clear about what is in it.

[fierce moth]

🤔 Maybe I can play one more character. Storm is tried.

[past breach]

I wouldn't even buy the game at $10. It's a step down and super disappointing. Worse than Wolen. Wouldn't play for free.

[twilit mountain]

Heavily disagreed. Wild take.

[solemn harness]

I mean, I wouldn't buy it either based on that demo. Worse than Wolcen is an odd thing to say though. Wolcen actually did a lot of interesting things, I loved their passive tree. It was just an insanely buggy game, and ended up abandoned.

[fierce moth]

🤔 I will buy it if it can under ￥ 110.

[solemn harness]

Put another way: I didn't see anything in the TQ2 demo that made me think "wow, I wish this feature was in <other ARPG>" .. mostly because there weren't really any features. It's a pretty tech demo.

[fierce moth]

I disagree that because masteries system is quite interesting

[twilit mountain]

I don't look at any games like that, really. I play different games BECAUSE their features aren't in other games.

[solemn harness]

The mastery system felt extremely shallow to me.

You literally just look for the biggest damage multiplier for the best skill and you're basically done.

[twilit mountain]

0.1.0

[solemn harness]

Sure, but I can't exactly judge a game based on future content that doesn't exist.

If it doesn't have enough depth in the demo, and that's what I'm specifically looking for in an ARPG, obviously I'm going to be disappointed. I'm not the only person that approaches ARPGs with this mindset, so it's important feedback to consider IMO. Not everyone has the same priorities.

From my perspective it looks like they put a huge amount of effort into making the game look pretty, and maybe 1% of that into making the systems interesting.

[fierce moth]

😂 I'm tortuned by how boring the demo and ea dragonkin is so... I'm appreciated I can play tq 2 demo

I can't get refund from dragonkin unfortunately... Over 2h 🙃

[solemn harness]

Making interesting systems isn't some huge undertaking either TBH, it's literally just a matter of prioritization. Chronicon and Slormancer for example are IIRC basically made by tiny teams (maybe even a single person each, can't remember) yet both of them had way more depth to them during early access than TQ2 does in this demo, lol.

[fierce moth]

oh thanks for the introduction. Glad to know more similar games but I can't accept graphics in both of them

[solemn harness]

I enjoyed both of those games quite a lot TBH. Few hundred hours spent playing them easily.

[fierce moth]

I avoid any games with pixel art style 😅

[vagrant topaz]

Slormancer 1.0 Soon ❤️

[fierce moth]

🤔 I feel le's campaign lack of little secret places to explore after explored all secret places in tq 2

[vagrant topaz]

You know there are a few ?

[fierce moth]

All secret places in the beginning of campaign. The middle and the end is... I just go somewhere to kill enemies then i got to next place, keep the same job. The catacomb is the biggest dungeon in the campaign, too many blind alley so I'm almost lost. The explore time is much longer than another maps.

[fierce moth]

oh but poe 2 is much worse. Too big and too much blind alley in 90% campaign. le is fine

thanks for the contrast from poe 2 hhhhh

[junior oyster]

Secret areas for me personally are usually like a one time thing

Btw Grim Dawn has many secret areas too

Some with just treasure and others that lead to special types of enemies

[past breach]

Mastery system was terrible, unique or not. D4 has more depth than THAT...

[past breach]

Same. Same thing I thought about Dragonkin. Demo didn't wow me, so I didn't buy. I don't see anyone talking about Dragonkin here....must have flopped

Also I agree with most of what Lothik said ^^

[past breach]

I avoid MOST games with pixel artsyle but Slice & Dice is good and....Hero Siege is probably at least worth what I paid (not much heh)

Elden Ring is a game where I had fun finding secret places, but I don't feel that enjoyment on a second playthrough.

[sand wigeon]

Why?

[ivory swift]

That's the problem with static secret area's, the first time they feel great to find, the second time it feels like a chore.

[sand wigeon]

Elden Ring in general has lots of issues with exploration

It’s not a very good open world

It has interesting locations and they’re all separated by an empty field

Which means you could’ve just. Removed the empty field.

Same issue with most open world games

[ivory swift]

It's difficult because you kind of need some open spaces for the aesthetic, however over doing it leads to a void in the gameplay

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

I think Elden Ring definitely overdoes it

Especially since a lot of the “open” parts have copy-pasted POI’s

The best parts of Elden Ring are the legacy dungeons, which are closest to how the Dark Souls series is designed

Which really just shows that the game would’ve been better with primarily those and some open spaces

[karmic nimbus]

I loved exploring elden ring areas

I dont want fight in every corner

Its more realistic

[twilit mountain]

Realism in a FromSoft game

[karmic nimbus]

I mean world is big and open. U dont meet wolves or bears in real life behind every hill

[sand wigeon]

I think Elden Ring was garbage so

Okay not GARBAGE

But not great

[karmic nimbus]

Its normal not to like all games

[sand wigeon]

Aye

[ivory swift]

By in large, Elden Ring was a break out game for souls like's. It brought soul likes to the masses and was wildly successful.

Obviously though, not a game for everyone

[sand wigeon]

I mean I’ve 100% every From Soft souls-like

It was a massive step down in quality on quite a few fronts

[ivory swift]

In what ways? I'm curious as I've never played.

[sand wigeon]

The open expanses were empty and uninteresting compared to the tight design of levels in previous games. The NPC questlines were even worse due to the openness. The performance was awful. There were so many reused points of interest, bosses and enemies.

The biggest step up are the weapon arts

[ivory swift]

Ah fair enough

[fierce moth]

Today's process:

The good news:
I still have four parts more to polish textures and details xd

The screenshot shows the difference clearly

[sand wigeon]

Kirra you go VOXEL BY VOXEL??

[fierce moth]

Swimming in voxel :)

[ivory swift]

ah so going for a destressed look?

[fierce moth]

Unperfect is perfect, it's what I'm doing lol

Too perfect = fake, blend and boring

Another things are fine, it just... snack-consuming 🤭

[sand wigeon]

I need to get back into pixel art

I was improving for a time but just stopped for no reason

[past breach]

ER was my first soulslike and it got me to play DS3, which I liked, DS1, which is ok, and Lies of P which is meh...but I LOVED ER.

I didn't buy the DLC tho because the thought of going through all I'd have to do to get to end game again sounds tedious

[fierce moth]

I find something interesting 🤭

[past breach]

I don't really like the pixel art style. It's a major turn off for me. Not a dealbreaker, but almost. A game with pixel art has to be pretty darn phenomenal for me to play it

[sand wigeon]

I see

[past breach]

Just personal preference. No offense meant

[past breach]

It was actually someone I met in this discord who got me into Hero Siege! 😄

[fierce moth]

I guess you'll love this game... I met it on twitter, wait

emmmm I can't find it suddenly

[tawny sand]

a classic

[fierce moth]

https://x.com/JuhanaMyllys/status/1891143955879743897

Yeah this game.
It's pixel art style, but the level is the top

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1928690/Bionic_Bay/

Oh I should wishlist 😜... Through I don't play puzzle platformer game

[tawny sand]

pixel art is a pretty wide style i feel like

or, type of art i guess and there's styles within it

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

Octopath Traveler, Balatro, The Binding of Isaac, Dead Cells, Papers Please, Noita, Minecraft, Project Zomboid, Stardew Valley, Graveyard Keeper, Synthetik

Terraria

There's so many styles

[tawny sand]

would games that used 3d and downscaled them be considered pixel art? Like Stronghold

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/40950/ss_83badf86ed9e82ed99ce0d9b0724f2a2b9e5abd1.1920x1080.jpg?t=1548159118

oh right, can't embed rip

but like that 2000s pc game style where it was rendred in 3d, and then compiled into a 2d image. I don't know how to explain what i mean lol

[wanton sapphire]

The fate remake is fun

[wanton sapphire]

I get what ya mean

Tho I personally wouldn’t call it pixel art

[narrow token]

Steam forums are WILD

[sand wigeon]

not exactly a high bar

[ivory swift]

meh, ya'll being too hard on PoE2, it's in early access still, It has a solid foundation and will get better with time

[past breach]

They shat on LE, so I'll continue to do the same to them now

[narrow token]

I wasn't at all.

[ivory swift]

who shat on LE?

[narrow token]

All I want is more stuff to play around with and some fun crafting and I'm chilling with PoE2.

[past breach]

GGG

[past breach]

I hate the endgame

[ivory swift]

? when don't remember them doing that in any interview (I think I watched most of them)

or are you talking about the release schedule

[narrow token]

I'm sorry to hear that? I never got to endgame (I rarely do tbf).

[past breach]

Yes

[narrow token]

It's not a great feeling having their releases so close together, for sure. It's like having a big, important moment be upstaged by a famous person.

I doubt it was strictly malicious though.

If GGG could've gotten their update out idk, today, they probably would have.

[ivory swift]

Meh, I agree it's not great, but don't blame the Devs for what the marketing team may have done (I still doubt it's malicious), the game by itself is still solid

I'm more interested in what happens IN the game, not outside of it

[past breach]

The game is OK, i wouldn't say "solid". Obviously better than Dragonkin, but that's not saying much

[narrow token]

I was enjoying PoE2 for the most part up until the dreadnaught. Man I was so angry at that point.

[ivory swift]

I would say it's better then Diablo 4, and has a better foundation then LE, though LE is much further along with features then PoE2 atm

[past breach]

And I'm sorry Venerated Ale doesn't care about endgame, but I do. And I don't like it compared to PoE1, LE, or even D3. I hate the way you have to min max stuff in late game

[narrow token]

D4 is for the gamer dads. It need not be discussed if nobody has anything constructive to say about it IMO.

[past breach]

This is probably a fair assessment

[narrow token]

Who said I didn't care? Don't put words in my mouth, now.

[past breach]

It makes a BIG difference if the devs plan to completely rework the endgame or not. Because if they don't, it'll stay bad

[ivory swift]

well for PoE2 they said they are reworking some of it, and adding more content. As for the atlas system I think it's staying for now though. However I wouldn't be shocked if they change it later, they did that with PoE1 several times

[past breach]

What i don't like is using tablets to buff maps, but it's only SOME of the UNfinished maps. And i don't like that the max level map comes ONLY from corrupting (and there's an incentive to do them)

If these 2 things changed, I'd probably like the game.

I also don't like how clunky infernalist passives are. I don't want to give up half my life for a small amount of spirit and mana or ES based on amount of life given just ugh

[ivory swift]

Yeah, as a minion master enjoyer I HATE the infernalist, they really need a proper minion build IMO

it's workable, but it just doesn't feel good, and it kind of pigeonholes you into fire damage to make use of the doggy

Not a huge fan of the tower thing either, it's basicaly sectants all over again and I didn't like thouse either

[past breach]

Yup yup yup

[opal flower]

It's probably a dumb idea but GoG has their own updated modern version of D1 and I seriously considered getting it

[sand wigeon]

Sure, but it’s bad right now

Which is relevant when comparing right now

[viral galleon]

well it looks like they're adding another summon-ish related ascendency... for the mercenary

[past breach]

that might be interesting but it's not your typical necro-skeleton/zombie type thing so not sure how I feel about it 😛

but not in next expansion right?

[abstract karma]

isn't that game which has some classes hidden behind paywalls ? At least according store in steam..

[abstract karma]

Probably but fans of PoE will suffer till then..
Secondly if anything from various wild discussion were true then PoE 2 will be in the end closer to "loot shooter" than ARPG because even melee will look like spamming ranged skills...

All saying how PoE 2 will different pro PoE 1 but even i this EA version and limitations of skills diversity due to 1 support gem per skill gem you have skills which heavily reminds you PoE 1 endgame speedrun shooters

Eventuallly all that hype of Successor of true "diablo-like" game will end if games will go approach it's going now...

Basically many PoE 1 players just need wait and they get their PoE 1 game in better graphic and animation 😄

[twilit mountain]

The vast majority of the classes are paid yes.

[sand wigeon]

PoE 2 has a fundamentally different design philosophy than PoE 1.

Also, despite what they say, PoE 1 players don't want a "Diablo-like" game. Otherwise they'd play Diablo. The people saying that are nostalgic for Diablo 2, even though Diablo 2 isn't very good in the mdoern day, and have rose-tinted glasses.

What people actually like about PoE 1 is its insane scaling and speed.

People like going fast and doing big number.

[twilit mountain]

Combination of this and immense variety in playable content and possible builds is what makes PoE1 as good as it is. And PoE2 will frankly never be able to reach that as long as they stick to this philosophy of weapon locking everything and limiting support usage.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

[desert jasper]

And yet people claim there's only a few builds that work in poe1

That's just silly ofc

[sand wigeon]

it is yeah

[twilit mountain]

This claim mostly comes from a stale meta, it hasn't fluctuated very notably in a while, which is its own pain point really. There's a lot of viable builds, but the amount of work off-meta skills need to be comparable is staggering. I'm of the personal opinion that every league should have large shifts in skill balance, and I don't just mean "nerf LS lol".

[simple needle]

Tq2 demo out?

[karmic nimbus]

Play test. U can ask to join from steam

[keen wind]

PoE1 skills are mostly weapon locked too, is it a lot more restrictive in PoE2? Like in PoE1 you're not gonna use a burning arrow with a two handed axe because it's, well, an arrow; I've played a mercenary so it made sense I could only use "bolt" skills with a crossbow, you can literally summon Monk's bell and blast it with the machine gun bolt though

[abstract karma]

You can do that even in PoE 1..

No skill on PoE 2 which is restricted on weapon type can be used with different one lol

What f.. up diversity in PoE 2 is only 1 sup for one skill

[maiden widget]

I can recommend belzeebub mod and devolution X for D1 both are pretty good

[abstract karma]

Which means it heavily depends on their release of support gems to support bigger diversity

[maiden widget]

Both support higher Res and lots of qol if you want to use it

[maiden widget]

In Poe2 I can't use ballistas if I don't use crossbows in Poe1 wands and bows work fine

In general it feels like Poe1 has way more options especially with trap, mine and totem supports

[fierce moth]

yeah but application for playtest is closed already

[simple needle]

🫡

[fierce moth]

Fun fact: The playtest limit in 10k players, less than two days they spent to reach the limit only

[simple needle]

idk why but Tq2 graphics and art looks like Last Epoch + Baldurs Gate combined

[karmic nimbus]

oh, good to know

[past breach]

Don't worry @simple needle , you're not missing anything. TQ2 playtest was a disappointment

[karmic nimbus]

what ive seen most have enjoyed it

[maiden widget]

idk i think most arpg would be as limited as this playtest if its basically only the start of the game

[fierce moth]

😂 🤷‍♀️ I'm satisfied

[maiden widget]

i liked what i saw

[past breach]

Idk how people think you can't get a feel for a game from the demom i learned TONS. Enough to know i don't wanna play but I've already talked about it extensively and don't have time now

[karmic nimbus]

i played original tq alot in 2006 and im gonna play this too 🙂

[maiden widget]

yeah so its not your game, thats fair enough, doesn't mean others didnt like what they saw

[keen wind]

I can't find a ballista skill that works with wands? Aside from the support which is, well, a support

PoE2 got time to get all sorts of wacky transformative supports and I sure hope it will

[maiden widget]

ballista support works with wand skills natively

people played power siphon ballista in this event for example

and yeah i hope they change their mind but rn the skill system is locked down quite hard compared to 1

[keen wind]

No yeah but ballista skills are also locked in PoE1, so I feel like this is more of a question of not having those cool support gems that PoE1 got? Which is 100% valid of course

[maiden widget]

if you want to group it like that sure, for melee most gems are also a bit more open in 1 with more possible weapon types but that might change when we will get more base weapons in poe2

[keen wind]

Oh, yeah the melee skills in PoE1 are very open, it's mostly like, don't slam with a dagger, don't stab with a mace

And then further restrictions are a gimmick you opt in with like trans gems or specific supports, kinda love that system

[maiden widget]

Same, it's great even though some restrictions still seem silly but it's fun to build stuff so open

[twilit mountain]

PoE1's weapon locks are a lot less severe. The vast majority of melee skills for example can be used on nearly every melee weapon type in the game. The harshest weapon locks in PoE1 are bow and wand skills and even those have a few exceptions to them that work for both instead of just one.

[fierce moth]

I guess Deias woke up by something

[simple needle]

wokege

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, just got up lol
Wasn't a full night of sleep because I spent a while asleep yesterday (I'm a bit sick).

[fierce moth]

⬇️ what will I care the most in Mar. 27th

[keen wind]

o7 six layers of defense

I'm curious how that's gonna be in LE 1.2

Here you also forfeit rewards on death, but in PoE that also means forfeiting juice so it's a bigger deal, but that with the woven echoes in 1.2

But yeah Chris Wilson himself explained that the pacing of PoE is supposed to be like, you chill, then something like a ghosted exile or map boss or something request your attention, then you chill again

Seems like taking away portals doesn't really align with The Vision™... But then again Chris didn't do PoE2

[fallow vessel]

I'm back
hope with this upgrade LE will run at least okay

[fallow vessel]

terribly marvelous

[ivory swift]

We kind of already knew a commander like ascendency was going to be there, there is like 1 minion damage cluster near the merc which was kind of strange. Hoping the templar shadow or last witch ascendency has something for minions.

I guess the druid has stuff for minions already though, but not quite the undead kind

[junior oyster]

Won't be any necromancer if that's what you are asking

GGG already said so iirc

Infernalist IS the minion asc

[ivory swift]

yeah I know, it should technically be a chaos caster, but maybe it dips into minions a little bit like the infernolist

if not, templar and shadow have room for a minion build. though templar will probably have animate weapon type minion focus

[ebon meadow]

I m still standing my ground on giving us gateways on passive tree like there is on atlas one

So we can hope left to right easier ,opens so much for build variety

[ivory swift]

yeah that would be cool, with no scion it's very punishing traveling to the other side. Or at least a unique jewel or something that lets you start at another classes starting location

[snow hare]

I wouldnt call it the minion asc

A third of its notables support minion play but it doesnt necessarily center around it

So i wouldnt rule out more minion stuff until we get more on golems, holy minions or undead minions

Plus raise spectre has been in talks for awhile now

[viral galleon]

There's a class coming called druid so fingers crossed for wolves or bears or something

[fierce moth]

lol wait aren't you play poe 2

[fallow vessel]

I've got too tired of it for the time being

when they fix their shit I might come back to it

[sand wigeon]

Me when the druid pulls out an athame and boline and begins casting ritualistic spells instead of being the generic “wolf bear nature”

[snow hare]

It has 2

Im praying for it

[snow hare]

🚨🚨🚨Wrongg!!!🚨🚨🚨
Theyre gonna rely on spark

[sand wigeon]

True spark is the only skill

[ivory swift]

nothing else exists except spark and grim feast

[fierce moth]

Plus Blink 👀

[narrow token]

They've blown so far past their previous launch video view counts it's surprising. Last time I looked it was at 1.6m

[fierce moth]

maybe because of your avator

👀 Your avator relevant to sensitive topic (Politics)

[sand wigeon]

Thank youuu mooods

[twilit mountain]

Thank you, mods <3

[hardy crane]

THEYRE ALWAYS WATCHING lol

im just bein silly 😛 ty for pings

[fierce moth]

Today's process video maybe the most abstract one because relevant to how to make natural pixel textures 👀 (I applied that in past works before)

[sand wigeon]

Oh my god Kirra

That is so much effort

[twilit mountain]

Your patience is beyond my comprehension

[fallow vessel]

not this stupid shit again

[fierce moth]

To be honest, it's just the sample... The texture work just started lol

I still need to adjust scale of three colours and mix them randomly

[sand wigeon]

Yeah your art takes insane levels of effort Kirra

[snow hare]

I jest i jest

[twilit mountain]

NEW BUILD JUST DROPPED

ITS ARCHMAGE AGAIN 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[snow hare]

All the high level spells will be nigh unuseable unless u rely on triggering them!!!!!

[fierce moth]

Plus current progress showcase (hah I don't want to fission my mini church anymore today...Did enough work)

[abstract karma]

75 / 82 degrees ? Time to fry eggs..

[fallow vessel]

why does it look like voxels

[fallow vessel]

you could've @ me you know
I forgot to enable CPU limit, with it it's waaay lower

while 4200 is more than enough

and I usually use 60 fps limit so GPU is like 55%, means also lower temp

[fierce moth]

lol....

Because it's voxel 😂

[abstract karma]

voxel is one of hardest to do right within gaming graphic.. But for 3D design why not, it always looks cool even if it's just cartoon colors

[fallow vessel]

woah nice

[fierce moth]

I guess you mean optimization on polys hhh

Yeah voxel looks ugly if they're low-poly, it's why I never go into voxel games

[abstract karma]

well that too.. But i meant it mainly for shaders, shading, righ textures, clipping - just these typical problems within voxel graphic when you trying make voxel game..

[fierce moth]

why?

[fallow vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDNhZeQk-s remind you that this exists

[fierce moth]

yeah someone mentioned similar ideas with me

change the cemera to the top so it's become 2d but with 3d effects

I don't try game development yet because no idea which game I want to try to make

[fallow vessel]

Songs of Syx, I think
despite not sure if it's all pixels or there's actually 3d

[ivory swift]

Nothing wrong with minecraft once and awhile....

[sand wigeon]

love me some minecraft

[fallow vessel]

I can't stand its visuals

they're not bad, just don't click with me for no objective reason

while closest to it, being terraria, is fine

I have zero explanation for this

[ivory swift]

I mean you can fry your graphics card and play this version 😛 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGDjbvNGf6E

[fallow vessel]

yeah it would be challenging in 4k

but I won't try since I'm already playing with fire

[ivory swift]

hah fair enough, and to imagine they coded in a shader into java, so it runs even worse then you think

[sand wigeon]

have you tried mods

even just a resource pack can massively change it

let alone shaders

[junior oyster]

I feel the same way. Might be the 3Dness for me though

[fallow vessel]

yeah I feel kinda like that too

for example this is perfectly fine for me

and I don't like rimworld graphics too

reminds me of flash game times when I was broke and sad

[ivory swift]

it's not about the graphics for rimworld, it's about the warcrimes

err I mean story, yeah, the story

[ivory swift]

LOL

I mean, it does allow you to keep track of the braces easier to make sure you close everything.....

[fallow vessel]

reverse Haskell style

[sand wigeon]

thats horrifying

[fallow vessel]

if you lookup Haskell style it's the same but in reverse

ie commas and other stuff is in the beginning

if you want to disappoint in life I can show you my newest coding font

result of inhumane actions

[ivory swift]

I'd be interested in seeing an "inhumane" coding style

[fallow vessel]

this is haskell style

this is font I had as standard on phone, I found it online, used external tool to convert to monospace
hence it's a unconventional mutant

or even so

eye bleach and unseeer not included, enjoy

[ivory swift]

OMG is that comic sans on your editor? lol

oh no, it's even worse then that

it's like exagerated comic sans or something

in the end whatever is comfortable for you works. If you ever have a co-worker come over to look at your code they will probably lose thier minds 😛

[past breach]

The graphics is 70% of the reason I haven't got Rimworld yet, 30% is that price. Geesh. For a game I might only barely kinda enjoy

Somebody here the other day kept mentioning two 2D ARPG's, one was Slormancer, what was the other?

[fallow vessel]

no idea honestly

no rest for the wicked?

drova?

[past breach]

XD

Not NRFTW sorry

[ivory swift]

meh, i have 2.2k hours in rimworld, but I understand if it's not your game.

I spend all my time creating unique colonies with probably 100 mods installed, it takes a certain kind of player to enjoy stuff like that lol...

Sorry, 147 mods loaded currently*

it takes about 10 mins for the game to load to the main menu because of that LOL

[fallow vessel]

I just don't like graphics

I like DF graphics but I'm skill issued

[ivory swift]

DF is really complex

[fallow vessel]

Songs is when your people die of starvation and new immigration isn't available so that there's more people to produce food to supply themselves so more people can come to make more food to...

[eager ridge]

been playing that, fun, but hard af

[eager ridge]

this one sucks mega balls

they've been dropping nerf after nerf after nerf since the start of EA

like they've completely ruined spellcasters

also picked up Divinity 2 (not original sin) because its 90% off, grabbed the 4gb patcher, and its been fun

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhh I don't know what are you want to say, but I like this font xd

As similar as font on my phone

[fallow vessel]

ugh, guess we are friends now or something

[fierce moth]

That's why I'd like to adjust sutitle on youtbe as "casual"

[fallow vessel]

I shared your IG btw

with saying "pixel artist? how about VOXEL artist"

[stoic warren]

What the...what is that abomination

[fallow vessel]

on classic? not that much

[fallow vessel]

well, it's obvious why they do that, because you know, need to have skill, game too easy, git gud...

[eager ridge]

But its also been removing entire archtypes and builds

Like you cant be a pure spellcaster anymore

[fallow vessel]

on more serious note, I don't know why some developers can't just leave players alone

[eager ridge]

Besides me when i load up wemod and give myself infinite mana, which hilariously makes people angry even though its singleplayer

[fallow vessel]

there's no way to sustain?

[eager ridge]

Like im just going to cheat/mod to fix the nerfs

Im playing for fun, the constant nerfs arent fun

Just going to mod the nerfs out

The games still plenty challenging even WITH infinite mana

Like you can STILL easily die

The whole problem was people fireballing crap off screen like just reduce the range

[fallow vessel]

tbh you don't need to justify using such tooling in single player game

[fallow vessel]

isn't that the whole point of range combat

[eager ridge]

Eh, can go either way, but it kills the challenge, which is fine if thats how you wanna play

Even with infinite mana the games still plenty hard

Enemies bumrush you

I did see it got a new update or something, may have to replay it

But ima check out the modding scene first and see if anyones undone any nerfs before i load up wemod

[fallow vessel]

people who are obsessed by so called challenge too much, usually don't have one in life

kinda similar to why people attend cave diving and height climbing

[ivory swift]

Some people are also challenge obsessed. They may have serious challenges in life, but get a trill for overcoming them. Alternatively they may like these other challenges as they can attain them in a straight forward manner which might not be possible with their more serious challenges in life. I feel most people fall into the latter example.

[fierce moth]

...Minimap is holdiing another arguement with other people in other server

Sigh, tq 2 server this time

[tawny sand]

lol

[sand wigeon]

thats so funny

[tawny sand]

what masteries should i play in tq1 today, i can't decide

[ivory swift]

What are people's opinion of No Rest for the Wicked? Saw a video about an update they are having and looks cool, but not sure about build diversity? Is there a skill tree or is it just all gear?

[tawny sand]

i haven't played it, but isn't it like isometric dark souls or something?

[ivory swift]

yeah it's isometric dark souls/arpg hybrid

I've never played dark souls, but people compare PoE2 as closer to it, and I kind of like the slower methodical playstyle. So thinking I might like NRftW, but not sure if it has enough complexity for me to get into it

[tawny sand]

ah, yeah i have no idea really

it didn't look that interesting to me when i looked at gameplay of it

[fierce moth]

🤭 ... wow even an quality assurance tester in GGG, they must good at these games

[ivory swift]

Well I assume you kind of need to know the product to assure quality

[fierce moth]

oh indeed. Must know which level is the best before doing something to let the product be the best.

🤭 Another potential directions for game streamers

[ivory swift]

I guess it would depend on how successful the streamer is 😛 if they are successful they probably make more money streaming

[fierce moth]

I know the end of a master in a game at least---Be a streamer (youtuber) or be an quality assurance tester

[past breach]

People complain a lot about having to grind previous zone a lot for mats to craft, including for potions. Also I don't like the idea that stuff respawns after X amount of time, nor do I like that upgrades to the town require X amount of time passed. The itemization also seems pretty basic

[past breach]

Have you played Undecember? That's the most soulslike ARPG I've played (I have NOT played NRftW)

[fierce moth]

I want to ask the reason

[abstract karma]

I would say it's just harder to get hit it right.. from vibes feeling, good immersion, not having it too "realistic" (it's literally voxel so having some clean fluid rtx rendered water for example doesn't make sense, same for other FX effects ). Fighting animation, effects of it or generally environment have many times "glow behind it" which make it's wit bad adjustment blinding..

Moddeling and landscapes also can be challenging because in some voxel games you find that as "hybrids" most of times - (aka. not everything is literally voxel)

I think you could find some example in net. After XX years most of graphic went up so makin voxel might seems faster and easier but put there just classic shading doens't make it always good

[fierce moth]

No idea which key words should I search but they're the cost/risk of making indie games indeed. Own professional tools for voxalizing always better though.

I'm struggling with how to get income by my artworks... Under no angel investment.
Medias are free to use, but ads don't. Which stuff and which price should I sell can attract costumers to spend money is the issue I'm sticking on.

[eager ridge]

they nuked the absolute crap out of mana sustain, at the first playable point of the game, spellcasters existed

now they dont

but on the flipside, its largely single player, with co-op in the future, so i can just slap on a trainer, flip on infinite mana, and go back to enjoying spellcaster

[fierce moth]

🤔 Oh... Maybe I can craft a cat sleeping in the front of the gothic cathedral's entrance

Quite tricky to balance quality and quantity on media... Always worried about what I posted on medias will not interest my followers or attract more potential fans indeed.
Want everything is perfect so be anxious for anything I don't do well enough.

Holy mashed potatoes can be instantly too!? Awesome

[hollow coral]

Guys, when was the last time you restarted your PC? (you can find it in Task Manager > Peformance > CPU > Bottom part of screen)

[past breach]

About an hour and 15 minutes ago i turned it off. You should too.

[eager ridge]

Like 2 days ago when windows auto restarted it for an update (the bastards)

[hollow coral]

I put it to sleep when I'm not using it, being able to resume work where I left it is a big one for me

Plus Windows 11 is more stable than ever, especially if you pause updates for as long as you can

[hollow coral]

You can pause that stuff, I'm counting down the days to forced update

[eager ridge]

We had a person crashing out in 1 of my servers trying to get our wow pserver to work on his linux and someone mentioned tiny11, might try that when windows 10 stops security updates

[eager ridge]

Yea i know

I did

That force restart was exactly that

Lol

[hollow coral]

I'd be careful about tiny11 unless you vetted it properly

[eager ridge]

Had it paused for like 2 months

[hollow coral]

There's a debloat script on github you can run on a fresh W11 install, it will remove tons of stuff

It didn't remove anything important afaik (and the 2 month uptime)

[eager ridge]

A friend on another server uses arch linux and my staff team was like "she's a masochist, they have actual speedruns for setting up arch linux"

[eager ridge]

Yea apparently theres a whole subeeddit called unixporn for tiny11

[hollow coral]

Yea, it's not a joke when you say that you have Windows to do work on the computer and using Linux to work on the computer

You're better off using Windows unless you really really need Linux for something

And big companies get Linux because of costs and not having to shell out for licenses

If Windows Server was free then barely anyone would use Linux

[eager ridge]

Yea i'd never touch linux

[hollow coral]

I tried to revive old laptop with Linux Mint and honestly, it was just as slow or even slower than W10

[eager ridge]

Ive only ever used it once, and that was to mess with my pc teacher in high school, who could view all monitors from his ipad, and i booted my class pc off a linux cd

[hollow coral]

Plus 10,000 problems with everything

LINUX CD

Why not USB?

[eager ridge]

Oh yea everyone mentioned mint was like baby's first linux

[hollow coral]

Mint looks like Windows, it's easy to switch

There's start menu, desktop

[eager ridge]

Because i was a kid in high school and only knew about cd burning

[hollow coral]

Lmao, outed yourself for pushing 40s

[eager ridge]

Im 31

[hollow coral]

Ohboy

Bruh, I'm surprised you used CDs

[eager ridge]

Why?

They worked

[hollow coral]

You're well within the DVD era

[eager ridge]

Cd dvd same thing

Floppydisk

Same thing

Floppydisk? Dont you mean the save icon?

[hollow coral]

Not until you want to bring home a game that's 90MBs

Bringing home 70 floppy's you scrounged all over

And then 10 of them had the archive corrupted

🔫

[eager ridge]

Not me starting up talks for 5 hours straight with my wow pserver about playstation demo discs

https://youtu.be/Kkwuw26ESn4?t=21

[hollow coral]

Ask someone about the pirated CDs filled to brim with all sorts of games, like 200 games on a CD, ripped cinematics and music

Sold by dudes at uni dormitories

[eager ridge]

"Whats your favorite mech game?"
"Mechwarrior"
"Armored core"
Me: "Omega Boost"

[eager ridge]

Thats what my dad had

I still remember my pops building a $4000 pc just to play Crysis on medium

[past breach]

I bought my first desktop in 2007 at age 18 for $400 and played any game I had which wasn't much, but like Sim City 3000, Civilization II, Risk II, etc :p eventually played an MMORPG called Shaiya on it. I used that PC until at least 2011 maybe 2012

My parents weren't gamers tho

[abstract karma]

but cursed 24h2 is almost on edge of being forced -- f.. Ai, f.. Screen bloatware and everything legally lol

[eager ridge]

sim city eh? are you excited for InZoi?

[hollow coral]

Run the debloat script off github

[eager ridge]

oh

sim city is NOT the sims

i see that now

[past breach]

Idk what InZoi is. I don't play Sims games and haven't played a Sim City type game in a long time either. Closest thing to either one would be Stranded: Alien Dawn and They Are Billions

[fierce moth]

it's the biggest issue for me to use windows 11 24h2

My wallpaper always replace by black colour

[ivory swift]

I'm really not liking windows anymore, seriously considering switching the linux.

[fierce moth]

Mike: 😄

oh I don't subscribe any ARPG youtubers yet. Do this thing now

Mike's smile is quite contagious so I will laugh per his face pop out suddenly

holy I can't see his smile for a while because keep laughing is tired

[solemn harness]

You can prevent Windows from automatically updating, FYI

Local Computer Policy (run gpedit.msc) -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update -> Manage end user experience -> Configure Automatic Updates -> Set this to "Enabled" -> Configure automatic updating to "Notify for download and auto install"
This means Windows will tell you if an update is available, but it's never allowed to actually download anything unless you explicitly confirm it.
By default Windows will download updates and then harass you into installing them, which it can't do if it doesn't have permission to download anything in the first place.

[junior oyster]

Might as well be on win10 then anyway

I really am hoping valve release a stable version of SteamOS so I can finally switch over

[maiden widget]

i'll likely swap over to kubuntu/manjaro when win10 support runs out, working on kubuntu for years now and most things just work

[fierce moth]

Prepare my business tonight so no new wip. But it's fine because no one like checking out wip daily

I hope I can complete my artwork before Apr.3rd then I can apply the hotspot to get more influence

[narrow token]

Idk how you guys do it. Swapping to a new OS would scare the hell out of me. Nothing would probably work right like games, and Steam, and adblock, etc...

[fierce moth]

🤭 I don't have iMac or Macbook. It solve everything

[ebon meadow]

Windows actually been ass last couple of years with updates

I postpone mine untill it forces me to witch is likely a month

And I have same issue with black screen wallpaper and also not rendering any freaking monsters for 5 mints in Poe

I need a new CPU

Can we get XP Office back upgrade version to today's hardware please

[sand wigeon]

I have Win11 LMAO

[fallow vessel]

yeah it's like city of them

tragic

[maiden widget]

steam and adblock works out of the box

[fierce moth]

ohhhhhh the first time to get income by my voxel career :)

Need to make a memory here definitely.

[twilit mountain]

Grats!

[vagrant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[narrow token]

This is funny. RIP Intel the last couple years.

You can't make this stuff up.

[karmic nimbus]

was it his 3rd exploding cpu or only his 3rd one exploded? 😄

[narrow token]

Considering the stream title... I strongly suspect that it's the 3rd intel cpu in a row that went kaboom.

[ivory swift]

Yeah intel is a joke now. They tried to hide the defects in the CPU's until several yourtubers called them out.

same stuff Nvidea is doing now with missing romps

It's like they thought no one would notice? How can they be that dumb?

[narrow token]

I think it's a corpo thing

Deny until you can't, then damage control

[ivory swift]

Every time they do it it costs good will. As far as I'm concerned intel and Nvidia is bankrupt

[narrow token]

Being publicly traded is awful. It makes you beholden to people who don't care about users/customers.

[ivory swift]

yeah we aren't the customers, the shareholders are. The stockmarket needs to be reworked, it has so many flaws which erodes confidence in the way things are.

[narrow token]

I think it's the lack of regulation. Certain entities have been eroding consumer protection regulations that disincentivized this behavior decades ago.

[karmic nimbus]

nvidia makes billions with AI stuff, they're not even close to bankrupt

[narrow token]

Ethically bankrupt.

[karmic nimbus]

and morally

[ivory swift]

was talking about being bankrupt in terms of good will

at least for me as a gamer

[karmic nimbus]

👍

[fierce moth]

AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX... Oh Mine isn't intel

[fierce moth]

xd first time to learn how to prepare a discount for my products

(sigh I don't want to touch any commerical stuff if I can)

Marketing will be a very challenging process

[hearty whale]

What's this drama on POE and LE?

[tawny sand]

do you mean how poe announced the new update release is april 4th? it's 2 days after the new LE season start

people have been dooming about it

[hearty whale]

Can't people play both?

I mean I have both games now and I will just play based on my mood

Or might not play both for months and will comeback

Both games are in my library then why worry?

[maiden widget]

because game studios dont generally have infinite money and a bit better paced releases wouldnt hurt anyone

[karmic nimbus]

most wants to play that around 1month and then change to other

[desert jasper]

Also people are likely to spend money supporting one of the 2
not buy support packs for both

[blissful token]

But but Misutsune 🥹

[fierce moth]

😵 The tree is big on scale so I maybe need one day for trimming branches only. They're too density

oh maybe select many of them as tentacles is a good idea

holy I'm right. The effect is excellent

[vagrant topaz]

Tree-topus ?

[fierce moth]

I'm thinking tree-like bones