📚┃off-topic

[ebon meadow]

mana watcher

[hexed stream]

This is too off topic but I came across male skincare shorts and watching those feels oddly satisfying 😌

I wonder if male celeb go thru the same skincare process to have as smooth skin as a baby

[fierce moth]

male skincare shorts? where is it

[tawny sand]

^ <@&1161418687471956101> spam

thanks mods

[placid yarrow]

❤️

[hexed stream]

Youtube, but douyin should have tons of them too
It's not exactly about male or female, the professional skincare process is just oddly satisfying to watch
Now I'm learning japanese face massage technique, hopefully 1 day I can practice the knowledge with my girl (whom I don't have right now 😅 )

[twilit mountain]

🪨

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/898890/Endling__Extinction_is_Forever/

Oh I dig a hidden gem finally

🤔 The theme is deep enough and... yeah I need to take care of a mother cat and three cubs daily so... I can feel the resonance maybe

The fox just looks very cute

[fallow vessel]

smiling now since mana got bigger

[fallow vessel]

seems alright

only thing didn't fit there was mirage so I took it out again

everything else either costs nothing or tries to refund

also smoke early burnout sucks ass

it's very inconsistent

[fallow vessel]

yep, seems to do exactly what I expect now

[junior oyster]

Talk about duping my exalts xD

[twilit mountain]

@fierce moth little dude does not like being in the carrier so he's just hanging out in the car like this. We've got an overnight stop and then tomorrow afternoon we'll be home and he can start adjusting. And dieting. Somehow in less than 2 years my family like quadrupled his size.

[fierce moth]

This is a flurry picture, give you a bit cozy feelings

[vagrant topaz]

@fierce moth can I dm you?

[fierce moth]

ok

[twin pond]

No clue, but it looks waaaayyyyy too sweet for me

[fierce moth]

星球杯 👀

One of snacks I tried in my childhood

[twin pond]

Wait, that's your childhood snacks? which town are you from

[fierce moth]

Chocolates in China will less sweet than ones for Europeans, no worries

[twin pond]

This is what I would think of if I needed to come up with a childhood snack

[fierce moth]

Oh no hhhhhhhhh

Salty & sweet battle for 豆花

[twin pond]

Salty it is

if you think otherwise

[fierce moth]

This food mix with sugar always in my place

[twin pond]

/block Kirra

[fierce moth]

Hhhhhh

Cantonese call it 豆腐花

[tawny sand]

are chocolates in china like american chocolates? They're not very sweet here either, but I also don't really like Hershey brand or anything.

[twin pond]

same in 江苏

[twin pond]

wait what's the most famous american chocolate brand

[tawny sand]

Hershey I think is the most famous one

There's also Nestle chocolate

if i get chocolate candy, i usually get it from like aldi's cause they import it i think. At least it tastes different to me and better than Hershey

but i also prefer dark chocolate for its bitterness over normal chocolate

[twin pond]

Hmm, never had the opportunity to tase the difference myself.

nah, i would pay money to not eat dark chocolate. maybe that's a sign that i don't rly like chocolate to begin with.

[fierce moth]

Hershey ohhhhhh... I enjoyed white cookies chocolate from this brand when I'm a child.

I remembered their chocolate by the water drop shape.

[tawny sand]

yeah the water drop shape is called a "hershey kiss", it's a type of candy they make

oh it didn't embed

one sec

[twin pond]

ohh this one

[fierce moth]

🫂
Then you're lucky to live in Europe now.
You must know how stressful they're in 高考

[twin pond]

yeah that one's too nasty

BUT

maybe i'll make my triumphant return soon

maybe

[fierce moth]

Everyone who own the identify from another countries have a big bonus for Chinese education...
Through Chinese always go aboard to learn deeply still

[twin pond]

a mockery of equality

but oh well

not that there's much of it present in homeland anymore.

[fierce moth]

Drinking my milk tea, I guess you never hear this brand but maybe you know what 寒天 is

不另外加糖 = syrup free

正常冰 = normal iced
中杯 = medium cup

[twin pond]

HEY, I AM ONLY BOUND BY THE RUTHLESS RULES OF THIS SERVER, NOT ILLITERATE REEEEEEE

but what is 寒天

legit clueless on that one

😭 Rules be damned, 这就是贺知章写下“笑问客从何处来”时的心情么 😭 😭 😭 Pure despair.

[fierce moth]

It's made by konjac, you can get it as one of jellies in mini balls, the texture is crispy

[twin pond]

still clueless, i looked it up, never had the thing (to my knowledge)

[fierce moth]

Alright so this thing don't exist in Europe, sad

[twin pond]

😭 Why am I considered a european representativve yo

[fierce moth]

Lol because you're live on Europe

I never have beetroots too... That's fair

[twin pond]

(don't even know what that is)

Excuse me comrade 栾, cute femboy with a phat ass calls, I gtg

[fierce moth]

Live on Europe = you're close to game industry more, you're free on using Instagram/discord/reddit/Facebook/YouTube etc, you can touch more languages under corresponding environment (Polish/French/Spanish/Italian etc), no fireworks/firecrackers bother you in new year, you have a chance to try different pastries and cheese and...Yeah, pizza, wines and real French dishes

[twin pond]

that's cool and all, but couunterpoint:

Living in China = I'm happy.

[hexed stream]

Just live wherever gives you peace and happiness

[fierce moth]

I can't go in Chinese society so I want to go outside and never come back only

[hexed stream]

Not all Chinese communities are the same

HK, Taiwan and Singapore are 3 examples that have drastically different lifestyles compared to mainland

Even within mainland, big cities are different from the countryside

[fierce moth]

My new year gift, Just purchased

Bracelet which wear on wrist

Very cheap so I don't think that's a real jade ring

[twilit mountain]

Doesn't need to be real, it is pretty

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/FTSjdoV9vt

[Vaal the baby]

[fierce moth]

Can I become a wizard in no rest for the wicked or only melee weapons available in this game?

[twilit mountain]

I have genuinely no idea

[fierce moth]

ok I find the proof... Yeah I can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3_G8Q0_5MY

He's a fan of mage too

[sand wigeon]

https://youtu.be/haYQiFc7peI?si=mnZcWsppcLeP4p_F&t=1136 @fierce moth

(timestamped)

One of the best content creators for reviews of souls-adjacent games

[fierce moth]

✅ Have the own conclusion.

It's a loot-based ARPG which more difficult than poe 2 and the gameplay will focus on melee actions rather than pure spells, which it mean not my tea... I enjoy figuring out how to get the passive tree and skill tree right more

I always feel too less games for my flavour

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2982610/Stonemachia/

wait wait waiit... This games looks damn cool XDDDDDD Or very creative because this hero I act is unique

[twin pond]

very true, very true

[fierce moth]

I never imagine to act as ||a chess|| to fight

hhhh it looks very fun indeed, wishlist it

[fierce moth]

watched the whole gameplay of this game from this video yeah very interesting, lots of potential here

Make people to laugh is a hard thing, that dev team just did a good job

[fierce moth]

what the funny thing I discovered from the video Hallow shared is what I want to play is made by indie devs... Game studios just do nothing I'm interested in...

The last game in that video, is a indie one, all about slaining enemies by spells and a few mage types I can select which are very interesting but... It lack of polishment seriously... I mean everywhere, animation, vfx, combat design, game design, UI design, localization... That's the biggest pity

The steam page https://store.steampowered.com/app/2284600/Codex_Lost/

[fierce moth]

The only dream I have so far is I wish le can help me walking a bit further on exploring the fun of being a mage to fight with enemies... Le still is the best game which own the most thing I likes

[fierce moth]

@sand wigeon I realized I have check out a video from him previously just now, about his experience in poe 2 lol

hah his videos are fun to watch yeah 👍

[sand wigeon]

He’a one of my fave content creators

[fierce moth]

I'm watching another his video, this penguin soul-like game looks pretty silly and ridiculous

[narrow token]

I think I've watched all his videos, but probably would never play any of them myself. I'm not into games trying to kick my ass just for kicks.

[fierce moth]

lol I never think I can get 300 followers one day...

Appreciated that so much

(It's Instagram)

[fallow vessel]

I can suggest arpg which might have some ideas not common to the gebre

[sand wigeon]

TBF, the good ones aren't trying to kick your ass

[narrow token]

Idk, I've seen Sekiro, for example. HARD pass.

[twilit mountain]

Sekiro has the least bullshit of any FromSoft game

[sand wigeon]

Sekiro is the one specifically designed to not kick your ass lol

That doesn’t mean it’s not hard

But Sekiro is downright easier than Dark Souls 3 once you know what you’re doing

[twilit mountain]

It do be hard but it's a type of hard where it relies pretty much entirely on your ability to learn the game. It's very achievable by anyone I would say.

[sand wigeon]

The issue a lot of people have is that they can’t get to the “know what you’re doing” stage

Sekiro is an entirely skill based rhythym game

Yeah

[narrow token]

I'm not good enough to ever be able to have fun with games like that. I'd just be stuck and angry.

[sand wigeon]

Why do you brag about “being bad,” it’s really odd behavior

[fallow vessel]

then you don't know what rhytm game is

[wanton sapphire]

BPM: bullets per minute is my favorite rhythm game

[hexed stream]

chill time over, busy time is returning

[sand wigeon]

I do in fact

Sekiro is DEFINITELY a rhythm game

[fallow vessel]

nah

[sand wigeon]

Explain why you think it’s not

[fallow vessel]

I suggest playing necrodancer, then come back and try saying again sekiro is rhythm game

same goes to last boss of drakengard 1 and 3

and then hellsinger

[sand wigeon]

I have played Necrodancer extensively

I have played Hellsinger

Sekiro, when played well, creates a rhythm and a beat in the combat

It is a rhythm game. The entire structure of the game is built around rhythm.

Same as Robobeat, for example.

It’s just not super direct about it, unlike more direct rhythm games

[fallow vessel]

well okay, I give it that, sekiro is way better than elden ring dlc

[sand wigeon]

I mean

Sure I agree

I don’t think Elden Ring is very good

I had no idea this was a “it’s not good” discussion tho

Thought it was just about whether or not it’s a rhythm game lol

Do you have any real reasons why it wouldn’t be or did the statement just initially shock you?

[fallow vessel]

because clicking block in timing isn't enough to warrant a rhythm game title in my book

I'd say it would be a rhythm game if Miyazaki wasn't an artistic impotent

and didn't resort to cheap tricks to sell his game

[sand wigeon]

Pffff

Okay

Anyway

Sekiro is cool

Not for everyone tho

Up there with some of my favorite From Soft games alongside King’s Field 3 (US)

[fallow vessel]

not a single game in existence is for everyone

[sand wigeon]

Do you just say things to be annoying orrr

Like, are you trying to be unlikeable?

[fallow vessel]

no, I just don't like this exact wording which is overused in general to justify a bad design

no hard feelings

[sand wigeon]

K but I don’t think it has bad design

[fallow vessel]

I didn't say it is

[sand wigeon]

I was saying that because it ISN’T for everyone

Not everyone has the time to invest in skill based games is all

Anyway x2

[fallow vessel]

at the same time calling such games niche devalues what niche is

[sand wigeon]

Sekiro PROBABLY has their best story?

Of the recent games

[fallow vessel]

story?

[sand wigeon]

Yes, story

[fallow vessel]

there's a story?

[sand wigeon]

Obviously?

[fallow vessel]

didn't notice

[sand wigeon]

Okay

Anyway

[fallow vessel]

you'd be surprised how many games require skill
question is, which subset

[sand wigeon]

Sekiro was IMO most deserving of a DLC or something to expand on the story or setting but it didn’t get one, likely due to lower popularity and the fact that their head director doesn’t love revisiting the same games

[fallow vessel]

good sekiro player can't automatically be good supreme commander player

[sand wigeon]

It has some really cool and very deep cultural subtext though

Which is 100% because most of their writers ARE Japanese, they could base the society on the history and culture they know

[fallow vessel]

I'll take your word for it, because when I asked this a guy who finished the both ending, he said "I don't care I'm just glad I finished it and regret wasting time"

[sand wigeon]

There’s more than two endings lol

Have you actually played Sekiro?

[fallow vessel]

if we're talking about Japanese side of it, I believe Nioh and WotS did it better

[sand wigeon]

Nioh has a lot of issues

It’s definitely rooted in Japanese culture, obviously, but not the side I’m big on

I just prefer Sekiro’s setting more, I think

And the voice acting and characters are much better

Anyway gtg

[fallow vessel]

I've beaten Gyobu and uninstalled

no sense in making up

[sand wigeon]

I’d recommend giving it a more thorough shot sometime

But you do seem determined to dislike it

[fallow vessel]

I've had my fair share of suffering and don't feel like pretending relief is achievement gonna take me anywhere

[blissful token]

I see sekiro

[fallow vessel]

actually I can tell you what I think is abysmal design

crosses and farming crosses

bosses come and go but this idiocy stays forever

[sand wigeon]

Oh, yeah, there was no reason for that to be a consumable

You’re very negative

[fallow vessel]

I don't like when game goes out of its way to not want me play it

I still think that out of all fromsoft games tenchu kurenai and ds1 are the best

among those I played at least

[sand wigeon]

Dark Souls 1 is pretty good yeah

[fallow vessel]

I'm that bitter about crosses because I see that its consumers are good half of gameplay
and game punishes you for using them instead of rewarding

[sand wigeon]

Definitely dated but for its time it was great

[blissful token]

Sekiro gets easier the more you progress when you get prayer beads. At least for normal players. Until you meet those old hag with a flute

[sand wigeon]

Oh it definitely rewards you

The stuff that uses it is obscenely strong

[fallow vessel]

like, okay if you want them to be farmed just don't limit them to the amount which doesn't even cover a whole bossfight of usage

[sand wigeon]

They’re super easy to get infinite of which just justifies why they should be infinite anyway

[sand wigeon]

Oh

No

The amount you have per respawn is well balances

Otherwise you could easily stunlock even the hardest bosses

[fallow vessel]

maybe for stuff like umbrella

[sand wigeon]

No, for mortal draw too

[fallow vessel]

otherwise I didn't feel it being balanced

[sand wigeon]

Mortal draw does obscene damage and can be used three times per fight

More than that and it’d invalidate most combat

Since it would be such a drastic, unavoidable and immediate hit to a bosses health that it would become insanely easy to build posture

[blissful token]

Mortal draw . I have actually not used it until i am forced to on monks

[fallow vessel]

I must admit that sekiro has good things in it

[blissful token]

Though i did try to use ichimonji more but usually just resolve to basic attacks

[fallow vessel]

crosses do suck, consumers mostly don't

there are some fights that aren't utter bs like bull

I mean if you like bull, kudos to you
I couldn't

[blissful token]

Bull . Inevitable chip dmg is

[sand wigeon]

Yeah ichimonji is the most popular

It’s def not the best tho

The monk skills are stupidly powerful

I mainly use mortal draw on headless ape + guardian ape fights during boss rush

Since I generally prefer using kunai more

[fallow vessel]

same goes for ogre grab attacks (which are bs in ER too btw)

many, many and many little things that spit in your soup here and there

[blissful token]

Thought it would be Ashina Cross lol

[blissful token]

Never tried any of those palm arts

[blissful token]

I abused firecracker on that lmao

[sand wigeon]

Yeah ao

So

[blissful token]

That one is just . I learnt to just not greed. 2 hits and back off unless u fire them

[sand wigeon]

There’s a monk art (extended version) that

Has the first attack send you in the air

And it’s a sweep attack counter.

It does normal jump off posture damage with a bunch of added health damage

[fallow vessel]

my favourite gameplay of "do 2 attacks that scratch 0.000000000001% of boss hp then wait for another window"

[sand wigeon]

And on the harder bosses usually one or two guaranteed follow up sword attacks

It is insanely busted

Especially on all Ishiin variants

It’s my default for most bosses though I do swap to other stuff depending on the boss in endless

Like, for dual ape I use mortal draw because it can knock the second ape out of the fight immediately

[fallow vessel]

someone could say "but it's a boss, you're supposed to do insanely low damage"
well, existence of Furi proves that you can have comparable damage both sides and it will still be interested
I've never understood justification of bullet spongers, I thought we're not in 90s

[sand wigeon]

And then I go back to using spears and firecrackers on the headless ape

[sand wigeon]

You’re not meant to actually kill them with health damage why is why

It’s one system rolled into two to encourage active gameplay in the games systems

Posture and Vitality are essentially the same stat. You need to reduce Vitality so their Posture doesn’t come back as fast, and upon doing that you can build up their posture to max by reflecting, countering, hits, etc

Most of the time a bosses vitality never goes below half before posture is filled when playing well

[blissful token]

I have seen video peepo use monk art to dodge with airborne lul

[sand wigeon]

Yeah it’s really really strong

I’ve done quite a few challenge runs so

It was one of my most used for bell + no charm + no prayer beads + no memory runs

[blissful token]

Game is all good until you fight demon of hatred at the end

Gosh, he gets me on all 3 playthru

[sand wigeon]

Demon of Hatred is really good once you know them
Learning them is ass.

[blissful token]

Isnt it just to not play "sekiro" but "dark soul"

U dont deflect

But dodge

Funny that you have been deflecting whole game but it comes back to bite you with Demon of Hatred

[sand wigeon]

You definitely DO reflect

But yeah it’s bad

[blissful token]

Makes me feel like playing it again but i have started 2 games before and after poe2

[fallow vessel]

I like posture mechanic I hate its tuning

[blissful token]

I wish fighting corrupted monk in reflection is possible without divine

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I agree, though for likely the opposite reasom

Enemies died way too easily for my tastes

[fierce moth]

Sigh, jade ring is gone after a sleep because the mental ring is connected terribly

🤷‍♀️
And alright, my parents sent that 3 kittens away from home this morning because they're poo on a carpet

[mental talon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3716196

WE ARE SO BACK

[blissful token]

1 month unknown event

[mental talon]

Peak incoming.

[fierce moth]

alright... and yeah no one care about non-blooded kittens except their mother and me. My mum said triple kittens, worth ￥30 only

￥30 even can't offer a meal in the central of my city 🤷‍♀️

[hexed stream]

wait, 30 not enough for 1 meal per person?

[fierce moth]

@sand wigeon @twilit mountain Do you know any youtubers who make videos for playing different games under the same type and their videos are entertaining like ironpineapple too?

[sand wigeon]

Uh

[fierce moth]

👀 I know nothing about game youtubers... Except ARPG (I know no game is available so far so I don't want to watch them)

[sand wigeon]

I mean I know other YouTubers who play multiple games yeah

[fierce moth]

shared them please

[sand wigeon]

Not necessarily in the same format as Iron Pineapple tho

Kirra I am subscripted to 400 YT’s

I’ll try lol

[fierce moth]

then pick up 10 in 400 you think the best maybe?

[sand wigeon]

Uh

[fierce moth]

Youtube being my music player for too long time so I feel that's too boring

[sand wigeon]

Are you just looking for entertaining or like. the same analytical style?

cause the latter is going to be much harder to find

[fierce moth]

entertaining

[sand wigeon]

Iron Pineapple puts insane ef- okay

[fierce moth]

His videos are fun to watch yeah but... I'm a bit tired at just watching entertaining game videos about soul-like action RPG only

You just need to post their channel's names

[sand wigeon]

Rusty, DougDoug, The Backlogs, RTGame, AmbiguousAmphibian, Aliensrock, Jauwn, Smallant, Welyn, Rye Games

Off the top of my head and in no particular order

Decent variety of energy and styles there

If you like Iron Pineapple you’d probably like The Backlogs and Rye Games

[twilit mountain]

Rusty might be tough if you don't have pretty good comprehension of English expressions and hyperbole.

[sand wigeon]

That’s true

Same with AmbiguousAmphibian

[ebon meadow]

Anyone fancy learning a new game again ?

Ohh lord here we go with wild ideas

[tawny sand]

I like LGR as a youtuber, he does old tech vids now I think but used to review old games a lot as well. He's cozy

[sand wigeon]

LGR?

[tawny sand]

yeah, aka lazy game reviews

[fierce moth]

lol I just want to discuess this youtuber. It's not the biggest issue, the biggest issue is i never play elden ring but I can see he recommand me this game super hard by doing different contents for this game lol

Rusty belong to analytical style youtuber

ok check out next one

[ebon meadow]

All my random games ytbers are survival game ones lol but u can check Josh Strife plays

[sand wigeon]

Josh Strife Plays makes good content but his content is also very flawed

So keep that in mind

[keen wind]

I heard he played another 9 souls-like games

[fierce moth]

😅 Ok I can confirm I'm not a fan of DougDoug

[twilit mountain]

AGAIN

[fierce moth]

Hard to understanding what he did for entertainment and why it's entertaining

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAeOuY0ipE

lol... fun to see last epoch appear in a channel Hallow recommended suddenly and randomly

[fierce moth]

thank you so much.

I realize I'm not like playing games as much as I'm expected... Or passionate at multiple game genres like many people... After explored all of channels you mentioned.
Camera and art styles are big filters and 95% of games on the market aren't pass that... Then is gameplay and current price, which help me filtered 1% from remain 5% games.

Think something and figure them out & Enjoy the unique art style and want to see more are double main reasons inspires me to play a game...

So I'm done in a game once this game can't give me something new to think/ I explored all landscapes and maps already

That's why I feel Fane is super wise now... He predicted I'm uber picky on games before

[narrow token]

I only enjoy the game genres I grew up liking, typically. I suspect that's not an uncommon occurrence among others as well.

You won't catch me playing a city builder or rts/4x game, or sports game, most turn based jrpgs, or farming sims.

[fierce moth]

yeah touch a new game genre and grow interest on that is hard...

that're our comfort zones

[blissful token]

i think we are more similar 👀

[sand wigeon]

NGL I don't understand what you're try'na say here

Language barrier moment

[narrow token]

Maybe. I'm not into any tactical shooters and competitive multi-player games like Dota, league, and smite either. That's a huge section of gamers, I find.

[blissful token]

whew.. more and more similar except i only play League ARAM mode exclusively with 2 friends.

[narrow token]

Interesting. Usually people I come across who game eventually reveal they're into cod or league and my eyes just glaze over.

[blissful token]

I used to play the normal mode in dota and league but sorta move away from pvp as i grew older

[narrow token]

I was never into it at all. I remember losing friends because I didn't want to play halo in split screen vs mode. I always preferred to play cooperatively. Never liked fighting other people, even as a kid.

[fierce moth]

Channels you recommended relevant to different game genres and game topics -> I'm not interested in all of them -> Be interested in various game genres is a big bonus for working in game industry or being a game youtuber/streamer -> I realize I'm not good at that -> I only can enjoy a few games casually as my hobby -> tell the reason why I can enjoy a few of them only

[hexed stream]

so how are you going to choose your career?

working a job that you fully like is a huge luxury in this world, most of the time it's somewhere from 50-100% of the job that you don't like, but the money for food and shelter matters

[narrow token]

They could be the person who only works on arpgs, for example.

[hexed stream]

that's possible, you join a company to do arpg job, then when they don't do arpg anymore, you jump ship to another company doing another arpg, but I believe that's the privilege few artists have

like when you're an exceptional and renowned arpg artist

otherwise, more often than not, there will be entry level artists that are willing to do any arts job, not just arpg, and companies will prefer those to the ones that can only do arpg

[sand wigeon]

I see

[fierce moth]

want to do something relevant to crafting and aesthetics so I can keep improving the basics of being an environment artist in a game one day in real life, my aesthetic

[hexed stream]

the fastest is to get a job related to that
there's no better way than putting the knowledge to practice under scrutinization
how's the job finding for the past few months?

you have to push hard for it, even taking up jobs you don't quite like, any experience is valuable right now, especially when market is in bad shape

many young people I know have submitted over 1000 job applications within 1st year after graduation

while at the same time working as intern for little to zero pay at companies whose jobs are related to the field of interest

[fierce moth]

Yeah so... I guess maybe I must keep doing fan arts for poe 2. One of senior environment artist stay tuned my work... It maybe the great chance to get recommendation in the future from them

GGG is very hard to join for sure

[desert jasper]

Also need to live in New Zealand to work for them

Thanks to local laws

[fierce moth]

I'm opened of that instead because it's a perfect chance to stay away from my parents and I can live in the other country

Milk and green apples in NZ are very yummy

[hexed stream]

NZ belongs to 5 eye countries, so not too sure about your visa even if you get the job

[fierce moth]

😅 I suppose... that's GGG's responsibility and not somthing I should worried

[hexed stream]

But I guess it's not too bad, since GGG is largely owned by tencent

[narrow token]

What isn't these days?

[fallow vessel]

Larian

[sand wigeon]

Tencent doesn't own that much TBF

[fallow vessel]

that's actually a cold shower from "gaming impotence"

[sand wigeon]

They just have stakes in a lot of different things

They have a very large portfolio, basically. Tencent's investing strategy is "invest in a lot of promising things because when it succeeds, we make our money back in spades, including money spent on failed projects."

They rarely ever interfere with their investment's development, too.

[fierce moth]

........

No idea why the topic go to tencent suddenly

[sand wigeon]

It's a video game index fund, basically.

[fierce moth]

I can say everyone work for tencent can enjoy their careers well in my eyes...its status in Chinese game industry like EA in Canadian game industry/ Blizzard in American game industry 👀

Plenty of snacks and drinks, eat so well in the canteen, free bus to take, good salary, but I'm not sure how much time they need to work and how are they deal with countless meetings and reports.

[sand wigeon]

Working at EA and Blizzard is considered an awful job Kirra

[twilit mountain]

EA isn't as much anymore

[fierce moth]

yeah it's awful in player's circles but own experience in these big companies will help my career a lot still

Chances are more when platforms are bigger

[ebon meadow]

No no blizz and EA have plenty law suits from there workers

They are horrible company's to work for

No need to go in to details u can Google a Lil bit and u find some atrocious things

I want to level a bow char now getting tired of sorc

Just don't know what skills

[shut ferry]

Herald

[ebon meadow]

Is there any guides ? For leveling and stuff ? I don't want to cook my self lol

[fallow vessel]

see, this is an issue with poe2

a big one actually

you shouldn't need a goddamn guide to, jfc, leveling

[ebon meadow]

It's not an issue it's just how comfortable we got with Poe1

I could probably level something random but I already know there's a LA leveling that is very good

I just lazy ass and want leveling and the build in same guide

Zizaran spoiled me and s lot of people with his guides

I have 7 k +hours in Poe and I still hate sitting and cooking a build for hours ,why do the work when someone else already did

[fervent hazel]

would you like it more, if talent trees/etc were randomly generated?

[shut ferry]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/deadeye-gas-arrow-leveling-guide

[ebon meadow]

ty , yoinking that just for the fact it has gas in the name xdd

also coffee decent guy have seen his guides before

[narrow token]

I got hard stuck in poe2 until I looked up a maxroll guide. The systems just didn't make sense to me.

[ebon meadow]

wording for me is the issue in poe to able to cook ,once i know how things tie together its ggs i can cook untill uber end game

for now its mostly trying to understand what works with what

[narrow token]

I can see that.

[ebon meadow]

also English not first language really and hard vocabulary

[narrow token]

I just always have questions that aren't easily answerable in the game. Like, why would I use this support gem on this spell over that one? How do I know when to use it over another? I'm big on "rule of thumb". If a game is too esoteric to have any, I struggle.

[ebon meadow]

yea even they implemented so many tips to understand it better it still hard sometimes

hence the spiritual aid node from poe 1 and explaining it to people

i can understand it my self expresing it for others to understand is another thing

probably same as explaining spell hits and normal spell damage

[fallow vessel]

leveling is called leveling for a reason
for you to comfortably play the campaign, try things out, have fun

and not looking up guides with shaking hands because your progression is walled or bricked

if it's because "it's supposed to prepare you for endgame", why do we even have leveling?

why won't everyone just start at map device with level 60

[ebon meadow]

well its becouse a lot of builds in poe will require an alternative leveling to what the build will be come exsample CI

[fallow vessel]

it's especially hilarious when you can get a wall at level 15-20 because "bad build bad gear" while you don't really have what to choose from

[ebon meadow]

neither me or a lot of pople like to level with something else that is good before u can try the actual skills of the build

[fallow vessel]

I mean, we got example right here, LE
which doesn't try to stick your wheels until you get tired and consider uninstall

[ebon meadow]

i understand i have to thats why i always look for a guide that will at least get u to spot where u can use the actual skills

[fallow vessel]

I got a wall at sorc in poe2 on level 17

17...

what BUILD or GEAR I'm supposed to have at level 17

wololo+tutturu

[ebon meadow]

my wall on sorc was Viper napu

holy that boss is dumb for low defence builds

and that was with 1.2 k life ans over 2 k es

in acts

thats dumb

[fallow vessel]

cruel or normal?

[ebon meadow]

my monk face roilld her under 1 k es and like 800 life xd

cruel

[fallow vessel]

because normal was okay for warrior with shitty gear

ah yes, warrior

[ebon meadow]

yup

[fallow vessel]

the class that you either play "right" and suck just a little less

but if you have OP metagear you can meme a lot

[ebon meadow]

it feels like old wow where cloth armour is just doomed on single target boses lol

and u dont have that much cc tbf

[shut ferry]

Just got this, can't ask for more

Biggest win of my entire ea league

[ebon meadow]

ohh u dont want to see my saved dump for characters

i have shit there with +4/6 and over 100 life

freaking crazy wands as well and they are for chaos spells xdd

game telling me to do ed contagion agian

[ebon meadow]

did u drop that , why i feel its missing an explicit ?

well a prefixx

[shut ferry]

Crafted and vaal on purpose

it's double the rarity prefix

[ebon meadow]

ohh

i was like theres a line missing there

it should be 3 and 3

[ebon meadow]

Yep that makes it right

What u making as minion build ?

[shut ferry]

i'm playing archer

But might switch to spark or some herald build soon

[ebon meadow]

spark is still fun to play

also the options of it

i m sorry nothing beating freeze and shater spark for me

not even crit

also frost wall as defence is huge on mele boses , they just eat all the damage witch scales

throw slams in there to every time they come down they eat all 3 walls witch builds up freeze and scales damage

i really need to cook up a build with trinity

i just dont know if spell or archer

should get to stupid damage

have shock freeze and chill and u l have fire dot on top for phasing times when they fkn fly around and regen es

my idea wich is probably not that good is unarmed monk with palms and all 3 elements i just dont think i can pull it off untill we get the rest of everything missing in game

if i go for damage its to squishy if i go for 2-3 layers of defence its going to be 0 damage and feel horrible

[blissful token]

@hexed stream

Potential fix for the crash affecting Win 24H2 players.

[hexed stream]

perfection

[blissful token]

Also

• Added the "/ResetAtlas" chat command which can only be used to reset your Atlas when it's in a bricked state (no available maps).

How does that even work?

Can peepo willy-nilly reset atlas?

Do the game check all map nodes?

[hexed stream]

wonder if I can reset to the beginning

[fierce moth]

that's good... I need to try

....Nothing happened even I typed this command and enter

also checked the exchange rate for e:d and e: perfect jeweller's orb, e:d is more but e: perfect jeweller's orb is less

e:d = 282:1
e: perfect jeweller's orb = 471:1

I exchanged my only perfect jeweller's orb with 500e before

[blissful token]

In the coming patch, by the end of this week

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2461440/Bylina/

New action RPG, bylina, will release on 2025, not sure it's action rpg or arpg without more info

[fierce moth]

oh... ohhhhhhh forget the time lol

🙃 Why are they don't post the patch note until the patch is live

[blissful token]

Preview 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fierce moth]

The pet here looks as similar as le's one 🤭

Not sure can this ARPG let me play a month, will see that

[hexed stream]

it's really easy, look at 2 things: skill system and itemization system

[fierce moth]

🤷‍♀️ .

[vagrant topaz]

Looks nice !!

[shut ferry]

wtf is this

[fallow vessel]

poe2

feeling of accomplishment through challenge

mind you that it's a boss you're supposed to forget about existence of 5 minutes after encounter

[narrow token]

I must be broken or something. I don't feel any sense of accomplishment from beating a video game challenge. I'm usually just relieved its over with.

[fallow vessel]

it means it's badly designed one

you want example of well designed, try Furi

[hexed stream]

you guys still playing poe2? I'm amazed

[fallow vessel]

which has premise of, you can't randomly or suddenly win or lose, you either can what it takes and you reliably win or you can't and you reliably lose

[fierce moth]

I'm amazed by your new profile too hhhhh

[hexed stream]

my 2 most meme-able anime: spy x family and the apothecary diary, the studios manage to make very meme-able main char designs

[fierce moth]

The most top poe 2 player here be slain by that boss...?? I'm confused too

[narrow token]

It doesn't matter what it is, my brain's not wired like that.

[fierce moth]

I'm curious about do you hear a term, 二次元

[hexed stream]

I do hear that yeah, but luckily I'm not into 2d girls

[fallow vessel]

well I'm telling you as a person who knows exactly what it is to feel relief instead of accomplishment

[fierce moth]

oh ok I see how to express that in English then

"do you like 2d girls"

[narrow token]

"If they're not 4D, they're not for me."

[fierce moth]

holy god they're so cute hhhhh

Nothing aren't cute and beautiful after they scale down

[hexed stream]

3 days till civ 7, anyone?

[tawny sand]

😴

[blissful token]

3 days till mhwilds 2nd obt

[tawny sand]

🤩

[ebon meadow]

That's me 10 times yesterday with side act 3 bos literally left him in curling state all those times

[fallow vessel]

hours until KCD2

[tawny sand]

what's kcd2

oh kingdom come deliverance i guess

[hexed stream]

heard the part 1 is a good game

those medieval themed games are great

[vagrant topaz]

57 days until 1.2

[blissful token]

hmm moogle in this game ain't as cute as ff9's

[twilit mountain]

Cursed get that outta here

[blissful token]

Kupo 👀

[shut ferry]

I'm playing a new blood mage hehe

[shut ferry]

What is your level now, i just reach act 3 normal

[twilit mountain]

I will post my moogle in a few minutes

[tawny sand]

what game is the moogle from?

i mean i know ff, but did an ff come out recently?

[blissful token]

ff7 rebirth on pc

[tawny sand]

ohhh

i forgot

[ebon meadow]

65 lul , he is done

gotta go back to work sadegg

[twilit mountain]

Peep the horrors

[blissful token]

that is.... HUGE!

[twilit mountain]

It's pretty big yeah, it's a bit larger than my kittens rn

It was like $40? I bought it at a convention. Absolutely worth.

[hexed stream]

can't wait for new content from any arpg, this period is such a big draught for content

[fierce moth]

you can try the same thing with him but in poe 2 or poe if you don't like le

[hexed stream]

not my food, I can't rerun any game knowing it has no new content or significant changes to existing content

also, he has financial incentive to do so, I don't

[tiny wedge]

Guys, imagen this in VR

https://youtu.be/29uHWz-8wQg?si=dTBxtd6qNLLtlGkZ&t=98

[vagrant topaz]

Just got it. Like the art and the concept. Just played 5 min

[desert jasper]

Furi also has a banger soundtrack

[fallow vessel]

yeah it gets only better

[hexed stream]

watching this anime episode and there's a sentence that I think is very true to rng in games: nobody gets addicted to a gamble that pays off every time

[shut ferry]

Poe2 update maybe in March

[fallow vessel]

they don't seem to address issues like location size, so I guess that's still skip

[hexed stream]

won't that be conflicting with the upcoming private poe1 league?

[shut ferry]

Just rumors, TBD

[shut ferry]

Just hoping mate, each time they drop an upgrade the game so much better

[hexed stream]

if there's no fundamental change to the endgame, even with the new ascendancies, I don't think I will play

[fallow vessel]

campaign sucks too

[sand wigeon]

About halfway done with the Valorant battlepass! Nearly Tier 40 (out of 55)

[sand wigeon]

Been having so much fun playing it lmao

[fierce moth]

I decide to jump in the donut tutorial for blender again after screwed it up and put it down for 2 years

Tutorials for blender are very common but for maya... just too rare

[ebon meadow]

Blender ? What happened to mortar and pestle ? jk of course u reminded me of uncle Roger

[sand wigeon]

I wish I liked Uncle Roger’s content

It just feels too front-loaded on stereotype even if it is generally liked

Makes me kinda uncomfortable

[ebon meadow]

He makes me hungry with every feature video

[ebon meadow]

U not wrong but I guess that's the fun part ,people stereotype them selfs it happens a lot today TBF

[sand wigeon]

Mm

[ebon meadow]

Can't really go in to details it touches a sensible thing for a gaming discord lul

Yet again u hear that guy actually speak normal and he has better English than me

Same with Steven He

[sand wigeon]

Exactly, I always enjoy the content where he’s just kinda being what seems like his normal self over the dramatized stuff

Though it may also be a preference for genuine behavior over entertaining behavior

[ebon meadow]

For me it feels like he just giving people what they deeply want but it touches something only he can do as a content creator

[sand wigeon]

Wdym what they deeply want

I don’t want stereotype lol

[ebon meadow]

Like u said a stereotype

[sand wigeon]

And if I do I think I should analyze why

[ebon meadow]

Once again not wrong

Long years of society and rotten brain that is all

If he can do it comedicly than wth might as well enjoy

[sand wigeon]

But yeah, anyway, looove cooking videos

[ebon meadow]

And try not to judge

[sand wigeon]

One of my faves is Kwook

[ebon meadow]

I banned my self from watching Kuga

He makes me want to get a huge bbq place for home

That man can tender meat

[fierce moth]

I want to east donuts after done close to 3 in 14 of donut tutorial... Such a pity that it's not a popular snack here

This version is the most common

As an popular snack in US, I suppose that's hard to get tie with matcha flavour because this food suppose to be sweet

[ebon meadow]

Was gonna say that looks like eastern Europe donuts

I haven't actually tried a us donut ever the thing we have here is donkin donuts I think

We use different raising flower

The reason I know that eastern Eu donuts because I had those balls before in Russia they literally melt in Ur mouth

[fierce moth]

That's perfect if the dough is matcha flovour too

I can sure I never eat a donut for a few years

oh the dough includes matcha powder ok

(share the recipe plus)

[ebon meadow]

Dough look easy apart from deodorized Coco oil

Is that like dehydrated oil or something

[fierce moth]

I guess the more creative decoration is drop a bit mini sticky rice balls cover with matcha powder

🤭 Calories explosion

[ebon meadow]

Me no care for calories lol hypermetabolism I burn everything

Starting to get a beer belly at 33 though might need to start doing lower abs

[sand wigeon]

Meanwhile, I have never been able to lose weight

It either converts into muscle or I just don’t lose it fr

Not a huge issue, I live in a cold environment so I don’t mind the fat, and being strong is useful obviously

I would like to be a little lighter tho

[ebon meadow]

Yea is stoped debating about eating everyone is different ,even with me I m still very close to anorexic side

It's just my body burns calories even sitting

Also the nerves not all there because of it so it a win loose thing

[ebon meadow]

do u think i over did it with pool before maps , finishing act 3 cruel xdd

also if anyone knows what level is the third ascendancy ? i might actually ascend before Dori

i need to go CI but i think i l wait at least to have 4 k es

[fervent hazel]

have you tried tracking your calories and eating a balanced diet?

[sand wigeon]

obviously

my daily calorie intake for a resting weight (at my current weight) is roughly 2200, and i was on a 1600 calorie deficit at my lowest while exercising and eating well and i gained weight

i just have medical issues that make my metabolism awful

most days i barely eat around 1200 calories and i don't lose weight lol

so not only was i exercising during that period, i was also eating better and getting more nutrients

i'm just a ganetically pretty muscly and heavyset person, so it's just kinda my bodies natural state

[fervent hazel]

so is the calory you need to maintain not <=1200 then? how did you come up with 2200? and 1600 calorie deficit in any case is too much to be sustainable over more than a few days

[sand wigeon]

no it's not

you clearly know nothing about weight loss lol

1200 is an extremely low amount to be eating for anyone

the average adult needs to eat 2000 to maintain weight (fluctuating a lot depending on level of activity and work)

[fervent hazel]

i know, but if you dont lose weight from it, your need is not 2200 then

[sand wigeon]

1600, especially while exercising regularly, is more than low enough

no dude i just have medical issues

especially because the more you weigh, the more you need to eat to reach your fulfillment needs. so for example, a 300lbs person will need to eat more on average than a 200lbs person to feel full, since their body naturally burns more calories existing

[fervent hazel]

how do these issues work? do they like randomly spike your calory need? caus sometimes you need 2200 and sometimes 1200 to sustain?

[sand wigeon]

no, my metabolism is just extremely slow

esp because i can't be super active, so it doesn't have many ways to kickstart

[blissful token]

Hmm patch note out

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3717308

[narrow token]

RIP

[blissful token]

Doesnt seem like anything to me

Strongbox icon is nice but thats it

[hexed stream]

yeah, it's just like adding a bit more topping on a spoiled cake

[hexed stream]

interesting names for ascendancy nodes haha, kidding, I don't read harbinger language

[mental talon]

Oh man I am ready to burn a month

Some event relic slot thing maybe?

[hexed stream]

new ascendancies are 1 thing but I wonder if endgame has anything interesting to offer

[fallow vessel]

more grind

[viral galleon]

Hitting inanimate objects, such as Ice Crystals, Tempest Bell or Vine Arrow plants, can no longer cause your trigger skills to generate energy.

rip

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_39zHuFgHA

@wanton sapphire I wonder do you mean a game like triple fantasy

[wanton sapphire]

You seem to build a deck so I guess so

[fierce moth]

The gameplay of triple fantasy is... You own a default deck, new cards are available by
Summon events, summoning spend your diamonds, diamonds available from different encounters and the campaign, or get them by playing these encounters -> gain exp in pass -> the pass include various rewards in different periods, the dev team will give many currencies for summoning new cards or upgrades cards...

will feel more rng than poe 2 definitely

For upgrade cards, you use your decks to battle in different maps and encounters to gain xp, then they can be evolved (add more stars) by spending special materials, these materials will harder to gain (limited time or can be purchased by real money only)

👀 I can say these games are very powerful on incomes if playerbase are more enough... Well, yeah I mean easy to "pay-to-win"

Want more materials? Pay
Want more unique cards? Pay
Want more skins? Pay
Want more rewards from the same cost? Pay

Oh forget one thing, collect different cards can active different combos, you can get currencies and different buff by collecting more card combos

🤭 This game have passes, skins, materials, currencies, summon tickets to support the income net

[fierce moth]

@naive tide what??!! So you haven been in EHG before?
I want to ask how are you meet with Judd then

[desert jasper]

"I met one of you at Exilecon briefly"
Doesn't specify Judd

[naive tide]

Haven't worked for EHG, but I think it was Mike I met at Exilecon

Mike looks familiar but it might just have been seeing him in videos lol

[hexed stream]

meeting people at exhibition is indeed a good way to land you a job, imo more effectively than applying for it

[naive tide]

They just need another Exilecon and I'll be able to meet people I wanna work with more haha

[fierce moth]

First job working for another person was this one, not self promoing but general game designer

Oh I mean what the first job you got in game industry... I'm confused why you say who's the first person of EHG you met on an game exhibition...

[naive tide]

A lot of the PoE designers I spoke to were pretty cool, was able to hang around with a few of them after the event.. still haven't seen their office yet tho, but I'm sure it's a madhouse there right now

[naive tide]

Ya I meant my current job is my first one working for someone else, been here for 3 years, a designer on Icarus (a survival game) but I also do a lot of community management, translation team liasion, project management, marketting...

[fierce moth]

a bunch of the people I work with used to work on Path of Exile, and our systems are mainly based on how they did stuff

Emmm then I'm confused about that too, what are you mean by "work with a bunch of people whose used to work in poe"?
You have worked on a extra game project with them?

[fierce moth]

Wow translation is a hard job

[naive tide]

Our current team has 7+ people who worked on Path of Exile, so a lot of our system design for stats, buffs, etc work similarly to PoE's

[naive tide]

Yeah, I luckily just need to tell them the context of what they're translating, and fix up anything visually that is breaking because of it (like German words being 10 miles long)

[fierce moth]

😅 Such a pity is the shortness of this way is you only can meet game devs in the same country. Meet international people is impossible... Except I have rich budget to fly all over the world

[hexed stream]

doesn't sound like a big problem for you though, chinese game dev market is arguably the largest in the world

but I hate the 996 culture over there

[naive tide]

Tencent owning everyone kinda helps that lmao

[fierce moth]

But the quality is lower than Europeans and Americans a lot because Chinese game industry focus on mobile games and... Yeah I hate 996 too

[hexed stream]

depend if you need the money more or the quality of life more
and whether or not you have the leverage to demand what you need

[fierce moth]

I want to work on PC games

Work on mobile games required me knows WeChat mini program games/ SLG well and neither of them I played

[hexed stream]

also ask yourself this important question that you must be able to answer to potential international PC game employers, why should they choose you with all the hassle of a work visa, rather than a local or someone who doesn't have work visa problem, who is equally or slightly less qualified than you

working visa is arguably the biggest problem for international employment

[fierce moth]

Being a citizen of Hong Kong/ Macao/ Singapore/ Taiwan is easier for this problem

Mainland ID is the worst one under this case

[hexed stream]

yes, indeed

[fierce moth]

Hell difficulty in my life, in short

[hexed stream]

I think the best way for you is to put up with the jobs in china first, and when you make a small name for yourself, you move up the ladder with international market

financial independence first before dreaming bigger

[vagrant topaz]

@obtuse wren moving here
I think I am going to do a Crucible lvling next time. Can you get the constellation pts there?

[obtuse wren]

Ive never lvled a char in Crucible, I always ran the campaign... 😄 but once I did Crucible with a new character to get some starting Devotion point, so I guess you can unlock them all over the time, but idk about some wave restrictions to unlock them

But ye Im definitely getting the new dlc aswell... I very often stick to occultist, so I hope there will be some nice interraction between occu and berserker

[desert jasper]

You can definitely get devotion points in crucible

Used to do it

[hexed stream]

the best leveling is to go to normal, grab all accessible lore notes, then go to ultimate and read them, take less than 5min to do so and you're insta level 20+ iirc

[fallow vessel]

why did I immediate know it's about GD 💀

[fallow vessel]

wish poe had it

[hexed stream]

half a day till civ 7, hyped, but still can't decide about founders edition

[fallow vessel]

I've analogy for this but you won't like it

[hexed stream]

never pre-order?

[fallow vessel]

nay

imagine if you paid for public restroom

and then butt wipe costs half of that

that's Firaxis business model

preordering from corporations is indeed not that great

[hexed stream]

I had great time with civ 6, any insight about why civ 7 will make me worse off?

[fierce moth]

it's the only path yeah... Meet a people who willing to guide me to make money is the most important thing

Teacher and student in China, recommend letters in western. They're the same in essence, the connection

[hexed stream]

@fallow vessel I think I'll get the base game, coz civ 7 base game has 31 civs compared to 19 in civ 6, for $10 more expensive (but considering inflation over all these years it's actually the same price)
the remaining contents I'll maybe get 2-3 years later when big steam sales happen

somehow NZ people can already start playing it

need to watch twitch for stream haha

[fierce moth]

🤔 I feel blender is super amazing

As a professional 3d software, it is very different from magicavoxel and more tools to support more things

I get why artists needs picture references pinging on the page too, to remember which effect are they want to achieve

[blissful token]

[fierce moth]

Cat is the biggest enemy for me to be focus on doing something now 😅

[fierce moth]

👀 wait, wait... 3050?!

[desert jasper]

.. yes?

[sand wigeon]

who are you

what leaderboard

lmao

[shut ferry]

Nvm

[sand wigeon]

why did you delete it

[shut ferry]

I want to lay low

[sand wigeon]

LMAO

[shut ferry]

Nvm nvm forget it

[sand wigeon]

OKAY

[full coyote]

👀

[twilit mountain]

Buddy it's LE leader boards. They're a meme.

[sand wigeon]

Ozymandias: [Posts image from somebody in the Discord server recognizing them] People in the LE server still remember me
Dream Hallow: who are you
Ozymandias: #6 and #18 on leaderboards
Dream Hallow: what leaderboards
Ozymandias: [Deletes image and comment]
Dream Hallow: why did you delete them

[shut ferry]

Wtf

Why you publish these

[sand wigeon]

For context

[shut ferry]

Nono delete it man

[sand wigeon]

No

[shut ferry]

It's no fun man please delete it

[sand wigeon]

Dude it ain’t that serious I’m just giving context

I’m not making fun of you, I’m not being rude, if anything I’m just confused

I’ve been in the server for a while and I don’t remember ever talking to you so to say “still remember me” is surprising

[shut ferry]

T_T

[fierce moth]

Well, GPU is outdated seriously :(

[twilit mountain]

Mine's even worse :D

[fierce moth]

show us

[twilit mountain]

I don't have the thingy installed I just have very far behind hardware so I know where I'm at

[fierce moth]

My laptop is the classic example for good CPU but bad GPU lol

but I can't offer most of 3A games so it's fine. Rare to play one of them

[twilit mountain]

My laptop has a Ryzen 7 4800H, 16GB RAM, and a 1660ti in it 🫠

[fierce moth]

good news: You can own 4060 directly once you have a new one

wait, do we have 5060 or 5070 only?

[twilit mountain]

Haha, no I can't. Shit's expensive.

[narrow token]

I don't think those are even out.

yet

[sand wigeon]

The 50' series was also scalped before release.

Alongside shortages.

[narrow token]

Paper launch?

[sand wigeon]

Alongside being worse than the 40' series.

(Kinda subjective opinion there)

(The 50' series has less VRAM as opposed to the 40' series, but faster memory and it can use three AI generated frames per one real frame)

[narrow token]

I upgraded my gpu ~2 years ago. Went from a 970 to a 4070ti. Big ups

[sand wigeon]

(The 40' series has a higher VRAM, slightly slower memory and one AI generated frame per one real frame)

[fierce moth]

wow then your sorce should better than wicked

[sand wigeon]

that's actually a pretty mid pc nowadays kirra

[narrow token]

What even is that game?

[sand wigeon]

Monster Hunter

[twilit mountain]

MH Wilds

[desert jasper]

Monster Hunter Wilds

[fierce moth]

I hate to admit my pc is low pc now

[narrow token]

Oh. blech

Eventually we all wind up with a low end pc

[sand wigeon]

(my own specs)

[fierce moth]

both of us is 32GB RAM

[narrow token]

laptop eh? Love the little space heaters. 😄

[sand wigeon]

Aye, I used to travel a lot so I needed something more portable

Just can't afford a desktop nowadays, so

[narrow token]

I never leave the house. heh

[sand wigeon]

I wish I could get out more

The world being covered in snow and ice for about half the year isn't helpful there, though

[fierce moth]

I don't have a stable hideout yet so I use laptop too

[narrow token]

Idk where people even GO when they go out. I can't imagine not being inside these days. I'm a homebody

[twilit mountain]

That's kinda the problem yeah. A lot of social spaces have basically been eroded.

[sand wigeon]

I mean. I like the woods, I live near a lot of cemeteries so there's some nice walking paths, back in one of my old places there were cafes and family run places everywhere since it was right next to a school.

But yeah, social spaces are pretty much gone. Young people want to be outside, there's just literally nowhere to go.

And there's especially nowhere to go where you don't have to spend money.

[twilit mountain]

Social spaces in our area are like... bars. That's about it.

[narrow token]

I've never been particularly social, even as a younger person. Unless we have the same interest(s). But finding someone IRL who also likes the same kind of games I do is exceedingly rare. Just easier to be online instead.

[sand wigeon]

Aye. Which I'm not old enough for. And means of transportation is an issue, anyway.

[fierce moth]

+1

[sand wigeon]

It's more common in places where I live, since it's common for people to be into games as a baseline

Venerated, what do you normally play?

[twilit mountain]

I am not very social myself, I have three different mental disorders that make it rather difficult for me, but even so I would like to go out and do things and try to make some friends. It's just that there is... nothing that allows that really.

[sand wigeon]

You seem to dislike a lotta games so I'm just kinda curious

[sand wigeon]

Mm, I've tried looking for the two of us and the very small amount of anything near the two of us was for children, not adults

Social spaces are pretty much just gone. They weren't profitable anymore, who needs them? Am I right?

[twilit mountain]

Do not set me off on an anti-capitalism rant again, I don't need Kain's searchlights on me

[sand wigeon]

Fair

[narrow token]

I play WoW with people I've known for 10+ years. Warframe, TFD (recently), and mostly real-time rpgs, and action-adventure games, sometimes 3d platformers, hack & slash games occasionally, and specific arpgs.

[sand wigeon]

TFD?

[twilit mountain]

The First Descendant iirc

[narrow token]

The gooner game. 😄

[sand wigeon]

Oh

Uh

That's a choice lol

[twilit mountain]

It's alright. Nothing stellar.

[narrow token]

I enjoy the progression sometimes. It reminds me of The Division in a way, except it has super powers. I'm not big on games that are grounded in realism.

[sand wigeon]

No games are grounded in realism

[twilit mountain]

It could be good if they expanded it's systems and content (and made it feel a bit more fluid) a bit more

[sand wigeon]

(They're video games, they can't be)

[twilit mountain]

Division 3 is in development. SURELY they will finish it COPIUM

[sand wigeon]

TRUST

[twilit mountain]

(I really like Division)

[sand wigeon]

So excited for Division 3

[narrow token]

Well I specifically mean games that don't have super powers. You're just a regular dude with a gun or melee weapon. <--- those games I don't get into much.

[sand wigeon]

Oh trust me I have superpowers in those games

[twilit mountain]

I played a ton of Div1 on console, but I lost all my progress when I moved to PC xdd

[narrow token]

If I can't shoot fireballs or smth I'm usually not into it.

I don't want to be a regular dude in a video game.

[sand wigeon]

I can chug a vodka, rub some vaseline on my nose and run at twenty dudes with a pump action shotgun in Tarkov, somehow get my head blacked (I should be dead) before performing surgery on myself and miraculously living

If I'm not superhuman I don't know what is

[narrow token]

It's why I never wanted to play RDR2 for example.

[sand wigeon]

I mean RDR2 isn't really about shooting things in the first place

[narrow token]

The game has to have some kind of fantasy I want to embody.

[sand wigeon]

RDR2 is a very story-first game

[twilit mountain]

RDR also needs some level of emotional investment (and a lot of time investment) to be enjoyed anyway

[sand wigeon]

My fantasy is dying of tuberculosis so

[narrow token]

Sounds like an awful way to go

[sand wigeon]

It is

[junior oyster]

Better cpu and gpu than me lol. i5 4th gen, gtx970 😂

[fierce moth]

steel Division?

[twilit mountain]

Oh gods, I am so sorry

[sand wigeon]

Tuberculosis still kills tons of people every year :>

[narrow token]

That is tragic

[sand wigeon]

Even though we have treatments for it :>

But the people who need them can't get them :>

[narrow token]

Not surprising

[sand wigeon]

We should have eradicated tuberculosis :>

[twilit mountain]

The Division. Funny third-person looter shooter MMO. Unironically great game.

[narrow token]

We should have eradicated a ton of illnesses by now

[sand wigeon]

Yes well some seem in vogue nowadays

[junior oyster]

Haha no worries. I do have a slightly better backup pc (steamdeck) and most of the games I play don't demand a lot

[narrow token]

Oh. If you've got a steam deck you're chilling

[fierce moth]

Tom Clancy’s The Division™?

[twilit mountain]

Well that's good at least. On the go I just pull my Switch around. Took it with me on my trip over the weekend but didn't end up using it much, spent most of my time reading on a Kindle.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

[twilit mountain]

Yep!

[junior oyster]

Like I could imagine playing Slay the Spire on a pentium 4

[twilit mountain]

I have tried to get into StS a couple times, I dunno why it doesn't stick for me, I love roguelikes.

[sand wigeon]

This is pretty much everything I'm playing myself

Mostly just Valorant though

[junior oyster]

These are my main

[sand wigeon]

palworld...

[junior oyster]

And out of these it's pretty much mostly sts lol

[narrow token]

Wow

Lots of installed games there

[twilit mountain]

Not all of these are being played actively, most get rotated.

[sand wigeon]

I mean I have a lot more than that installed

[narrow token]

My god.

[junior oyster]

That's my fav list

[sand wigeon]

Most of my installed games are less than a GB tho

[narrow token]

I need more storage space

[narrow token]

You guys are nutty

[twilit mountain]

I just got my external 2TB drive back

[narrow token]

I have a 1tb nvme and a 1tb hdd and that's it. 😦

[sand wigeon]

I need to do a factory reset soon tbh

[narrow token]

😮 why?

[twilit mountain]

1TB internal and 2TB external here

[sand wigeon]

Just to clean up the PC

It's good to do one every six months to a year

[twilit mountain]

Both SSD I believe?

[fierce moth]

1.13TB games holy god you're amazing lol...

[twilit mountain]

A couple of the games we play are very large for no good reason lol

[sand wigeon]

TBF most games are stupid large nowadays for no real reason aside from "the execs never gave their devs time to optimize the product"

[narrow token]

afaik that's because of textures right?

[twilit mountain]

Once upon a time we compressed texture and sound files

[narrow token]

Love me some Control

[twilit mountain]

And for some reason a LOT of games don't let you not install 4K textures?

So like, you just have a bunch of wasted storage for textures you don't use

[narrow token]

One of the things D4 got right

[sand wigeon]

Like sorry but BG3 is one of the least optimized products I have ever consumed

That game does not need to be 150GB

[twilit mountain]

I'm a genuine D4 fan so to me there's not a lot they did wrong

[sand wigeon]

Yeah D4 is pretty great

[twilit mountain]

(I just really like ARPGs in general)

[junior oyster]

Eh I think it's mid

I prefer d3

[fierce moth]

🤷‍♀️ I'm not into playing games recently

[sand wigeon]

The voice actors nailed D4

So many of the side quests were worth playing just for the VA performances

[junior oyster]

I can't believe I'm saying it but I felt the same way about d2 when d3 came out. I thought d2 was better lol

[narrow token]

I didn't mean to disparage the game. It was just one I remembered that let you opt out of 4K textures.

[twilit mountain]

Aye, very good choice of theirs and something I want more games to do

[twilit mountain]

I cannot stand D2 ngl. I've played a good amount of it, both original and D2R, and the only thing that makes me able to enjoy it is modding it to hell and back

[narrow token]

I like D3's classes more than D4, but that's just a personal preference. Demon Hunter, Monk, and Wizard.

[sand wigeon]

D2 is too old for me to enjoy at this point

It's practically a relic

[fierce moth]

le is the only game I know from these icons

[junior oyster]

Same especially Wizard

[sand wigeon]

And it sits in that weird inbetween point where it isn't a playable retro game, it's just trying to be a modern game but clunkier

Good for its time, awful nowadays

[twilit mountain]

I'll hand you that, D3 does have some gnarly classes. I really like D4 Rogue though. But yeah, D3 has phenomenal class design across the board I would say.

[narrow token]

Something about D4's rogue doesn't scratch the same itch Demon Hunter does for me. 😦

[maiden widget]

id say pd2 mod for d2 makes it keep up pretty well - lots of balance changes and some endgame

[narrow token]

Maybe it's the dual crossbows? The skills that move you and attack at the same time? The grenades? idk

[hardy crane]

I remember going to CompUSA to buy D2 lol

back in the day

[sand wigeon]

The issue with D2 isn't balance or endgame it's fundamental to its age

[hardy crane]

[sand wigeon]

It's just clunky. It looks old, it feels old, it's just not enjoyable

[twilit mountain]

Totally fair. What got me hooked on D4 Rogue was old PenShot builds and then the item rework came out and I went "hold on I can make a movement skill do damage?"

[maiden widget]

í mean yeah looks old cos its old, d2r fixes that - the clunk is mitigated by mods as well

[sand wigeon]

It does not fix it

[twilit mountain]

D2R still has the feeling of being old. Objectively it controls like garbage.

[maiden widget]

well d2r was mostly just a facelift they didnt touch much if anything of the controls

[sand wigeon]

So you agree it didn't actually do much

Also, Deias, I'ma play a match or two of Val TDM because my brain is still not on

[maiden widget]

i never praised d2r

[twilit mountain]

BET

[maiden widget]

said pd2 :p

[sand wigeon]

Well I mean that's a mod

I don't go "yeah dude this 100gb modlist that was professionally produced for Skyrim makes it so much better" that's not accurate to the game

That ain't just "Skyrim"

[narrow token]

$150 for a 2TB SSD. F me... 😭

[sand wigeon]

That's a whole new entity

[twilit mountain]

Yeeeeah... Storage gets expensive. I was lucky enough to have a nice friend who bought it for me.

[sand wigeon]

Even if a game's flaws are improved by mods, that doesn't justify its unmodded quality

[maiden widget]

🤷‍♂️ not here to get anyone to change their opinion just giving my 2c

[sand wigeon]

I like WAY overslept today and so I'm tryn'a work and it just ain't comin'

[narrow token]

That's nice. A WoW guildmate of mine bought me the D4 expansion. 🙂

[sand wigeon]

But I'm also still somewhat ahead of schedule so I can afford to waste some time

[twilit mountain]

Inviiiiite

[sand wigeon]

Plus, since I'm a writer, working while my brain isn't functioning isn't really working

Since it's just a worse product I'ma have to fix anyway

[fierce moth]

I still need to save money for 2 more months if I want to buy a 2TB sata 3 SSD

[ebon meadow]

Wait how much are they

I need to change my main SSD and get another one to

I do like to have one just for windows and Nvidia drivers

I hate reinstalling windows as well

[narrow token]

I probably should, but I'm way too lazy rn.

[ebon meadow]

Also Manni doing GSF starting this weekend in Poe 1 if someone interested

I m solo player so I m skipping ,to autistic

[fierce moth]

I spent ￥639 for current 1TB Samsung 870 QVO SSD in 2022, what I want to buy now is Barracuda 2TB, I need ￥899

The highest read speed is 540MB/s only though

[ebon meadow]

117 euros huh that not that bad

[fierce moth]

Samsung 2TB 990EVO plus needs ￥1069

Samsung 2 TB 870 EVO even up to ￥1259

[ebon meadow]

Yea was just looking at that one XD

179 euros for me

That was the cost of my 1050ti lol

[fierce moth]

which one

[ebon meadow]

I wonder how much difference with kingstone

[ebon meadow]

870 evo

[fierce moth]

NVme/PCle SSD are much faster on reading speed but my laptop have sata only

[fierce moth]

then I think it's very cheap for GPU

[ebon meadow]

Kinston only goes up to 1 tb and it's already 795,25 yuan

[ebon meadow]

Yea everything under 3090 is decently cheap

[fierce moth]

🤔 2TB Kingston Nvme SSD only need ￥749

[ebon meadow]

For me there's not much difference between Samsung and Kingston u paying more for the make on Samsung

[fierce moth]

👀 wow I find the difference on price is huge when I checked out different brands

2TB SSD can down to 619 if I give up famous brands like Kingston and Samsung

I'm not into Samgsung so much since my SSD is crashed 2 times already

[ebon meadow]

So I get to be archon ? Sold

[narrow token]

What game is that?

[fierce moth]

poe

[twilit mountain]

It's part of the upcoming PoE1 event league

[ebon meadow]

Yea Poe 1 event

Gambler looking hell nice to

This actually got me interested damn ascendancy shift is very big change

[narrow token]

Aw, I got excited for a second too.

[ebon meadow]

I mean apart from the actual game play and bioms it should be a very big game shift

Ascendancy s are biggest power crip to character

Apart from raider or pathfinder can't remember which one was complete useless before rework

[fierce moth]

i have no idea what are these in this event because I'm new to poe

[ebon meadow]

Well they changing the ascendancy for the event

So what u learned before is sort of worthless xd

I liked the wording on the announcement when they said " changes that out team considered at some point " not the team it was Ur player base cooking for years but fine

Just the fact that I can actually turn to harbi and fly around like archon in D3 is already got me I want it

[fierce moth]

what you learned never worthless if the same team doing these updates

[narrow token]

Idk why no other arpg has ever made another archon form or something like it is beyond me.

You could make a whole class idea behind a cosmic form like that

[ebon meadow]

No experience and time sinc is worthless there's always something that sticks to Ur brain but shifting u most poewer and defence outcome can change the builds vastly

[narrow token]

Cosmic spells like black holes, supernovae, warping dimensions, etc...

[ebon meadow]

Take a look at gambler thing is broken

[ebon meadow]

I do agree the class prototype sounds amazing

[narrow token]

RIP mobile. Can't read squat

[ebon meadow]

Magic that twist time is very rare in Arpgs

[narrow token]

Seems so.

[ebon meadow]

What is squat ? Like a format or something

[narrow token]

Just American lingo. Means I can't read anything. The images are too pixelated on my phone

[fierce moth]

2560*1440 can't save this imgine too

[ebon meadow]

Ohhh that's discord fault ,it degrades the uploads

The screen shots are almost 4 k xdd on this phone

[narrow token]

Boo discord.

[ebon meadow]

Yea I always have same issue sharing screenshots

The upload degrades to quarter quality of not more

[narrow token]

I'll bet nitro users don't have this problem.

Lame

[ebon meadow]

https://web.poecdn.com/public/news/2025-02-05/Gambler.png There's the image

Not sure I still think they do it's because of memory size for the servers

[narrow token]

Yeah poe terminology confuses me

[ebon meadow]

U not only one ,something confuse English speakers to lol

[narrow token]

The way they word things has me scratching my head a lot.

50% chance for Elemental Resistances to count as being 90% against Enemy Hits
90% what? 😕

[twilit mountain]

To count as 90% resistance instead of whatever they normally are