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hexed stream
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those aspects are fun, but for me when it comes to actually playing the build, the fun goes down quickly

narrow token
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What about playing them isn't fun to you? I'm curious

hexed stream
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combat not smooth, density not good, endgame content not diverse enough to change mood when you're bored with mono or dungeons

fierce moth
hexed stream
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nah, that mod is fine, it's a dps mod

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not enough dps and it's a dangerous mod

fierce moth
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πŸ‘€ First time to get triple exalted orbs from an rare enemy, cool

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The survival is successful!

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I will not do breach because of poor dps

hexed stream
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do you lack the jewels? I see people having insane damage even with budget gears

narrow token
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Now if only they could fix the freezing and crashing for me...

hexed stream
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or you can always play cold spark version by zizaran, that version is very safe

narrow token
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How DO you change one element to another anyway?

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I could never figure that out

shut ferry
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In the same map @hexed stream

hexed stream
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all are very cheap items

fierce moth
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hah remind me of something

You maybe can get extra items from unique items after you slammed them in le, but it's never happen in poe 2 so... Use unique items = one less slot for resistances

hexed stream
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not really, remember, poe has 6 affixes for items, LE has 4

narrow token
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Up to 5 with a sealed affix

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I'd kill for the LE crafting system in POE2

fierce moth
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emmm interesting, different support gem combo for spark in different spark guides

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Poor Joy

fierce moth
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You cannot be Chilled or Frozen

That's too juicy

narrow token
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Sounds busted.

hexed stream
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that's the least important mod tbh, the % max mana is the real sick one
then mana regen

fierce moth
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😱 0o0....

hexed stream
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wonder if I should play new build hmm
damn, you're rich

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pick up before the corpse next to you explodes

fierce moth
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Isn't it worth 2d only lol

hexed stream
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2d is enough for a midroll wand or focus I think

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or use it for your next important skill if it's not already 5 sockets

fierce moth
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Facepalm Forgot I've exchanged a few exalted orbs by the greater jeweller's orb yesterday... I want to take a family photo πŸ˜…

sand wigeon
shut ferry
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Don't get addicted to that sound

fierce moth
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I get addicted in gambling

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No unique rings unfortunately

exotic wave
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if you're going to gamble, gamble amulets or belts

hexed stream
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just amulet though, belt is bad, worse than ring I'll say

shut ferry
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^

exotic wave
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Heavy Belt is good for chance gambling

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for gold gambling amulets is best

hexed stream
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really good fire wand I guess

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who want this wand, free, I ex into not so desirable result

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something for you @fierce moth

viral galleon
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26D - 26 divines?

hexed stream
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yes, that's a very budget amount for the likes of fubgun

exotic wave
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It's budget for this league

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26D=5 decent pieces

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a usable piece of gear (approrpirate for endgame content) is 1d

fierce moth
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oh...stash menu available in pc UI only, alright. Controller UI don't have that

exotic wave
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good is 3-5D

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we've got no use for divines so prices just skyrocketed to hell and back

hexed stream
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lol, kalandra ring is even more expensive than astramentis

hexed stream
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the 2 items with probably 50% of all those divine sinks are adorned and ingenuity
the rest of the divine goes to rare/unique jewels

exotic wave
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Eh, unless a unique is extremely hard to get, it's better to vaal than divine

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if you get the reroll neat, if you didn't oh well, just chuck it

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especially since most uniques aren't even WORTH a divine so you'd be better off just buying another and trying again even if it does nothing

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this is kind of the same for rares too

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I'm probably biased at this point because I'm basically done with expecting to get/make something for myself

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so I look at items at how much they're worth on trade

hexed stream
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the most stupid vaaling I see is people vaaling astramentis

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no idea if such people turned off their brain at the time

shut ferry
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That jewel in trial of chaos can't be divved

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it's corrupted, but expensive

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A friend got a 98% and sold for 157 div

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Damn

hexed stream
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oh yeah, forgot it can't
my bad

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so I guess it's mostly ingenuity and astramentis

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especially the latter since you wil almost never want to vaal an amulet

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coz tainted oil doesn't exist yet

exotic wave
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yeah astramentis is 100% the main sink

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ingenuity too but 100% astra

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because vaaling that is a choice

hexed stream
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do we actually have a mirror tier ring now?

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I can see really bis breach rings around 80-100d, but still nowhere near mirror tier

fierce moth
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πŸ€” I'm surprised deadeye build can't escape the fate of stacking energy shield... Why stacking evasion only is bad

hexed stream
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because evasion is never 100% and once you get hit, something needs to be there to save you from that hit

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evasion is never good alone

fierce moth
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I feel very overwhelming for discussing endgame builds because none of them needs massive support from divide orbs but me... less than 90e and 2d only πŸ˜…
Alright, so deadeye will more tricky than stormweaver on attributes balance.

exotic wave
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because evasion isn't even a %chance

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and the way the formula works you WILL be hit

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and once you are you die

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evasion (and armor) in PoE is designed to fail

fierce moth
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I'm not quite understand why even warrior maybe needs energy shield stacking too

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armour is designed to be failed sometimes so armour + energy shield or armour + evasion

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πŸ€” 70% damage is recouped by my mana so remain 30% damage maybe kill me... but no way for increasing it to 100%... then my stormweaver only can be a glass cannon...

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oh... So that's the reason why are they suggest exchanging part of intelligence to strength for equipping a shield

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emmm the trade website is down on server?

fierce moth
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but I need to give up so much bonus from my focus then...200 max mana + 22% mana regeneration + 40% fire resistances + 12 intelligence...

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Facepalm I have no idea where can I find back these lost bonus

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oh i need extra 30 strength too

fierce moth
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@radiant comet Which build are you playing in poe 2?

ebon meadow
fierce moth
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7

ebon meadow
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Rather convert or balance with jewellery u must have at least some str

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Yesus Christ what's Ur life pool ?

radiant comet
ebon meadow
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Also don't some skills have str REQ how do u have 7 str

ebon meadow
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CoC player based lul

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Cast on crit

radiant comet
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big coc= bid dips

ebon meadow
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Do we even have cyclone in game ?

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Cold coc monk can be a thing

fierce moth
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I stack intelligence as you know

ebon meadow
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But why ,for mana ?

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Or the bonus for int is spell damage ?

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U don't have es at that level that is very low life

exotic wave
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Honestly given what they revealed in the recent podcast/livestream

fierce moth
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because my damage is relevant to max mana

exotic wave
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NOBODY should go any kind of armor

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it fundamentally doesn't work in PoE 2

fierce moth
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I want block chance mainly

exotic wave
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(the admitted that the difference in hits between whites and bosses is small enough that the changes to armor won't matter ultimately)

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also part of the tree converts 100 mana to.. 2%? damage

ebon meadow
exotic wave
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and another does IIRC 10 mana for 1% lightning?

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Mind over Matter probably

ebon meadow
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Damage is good defence but u need to one tap enemy's for it

exotic wave
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turns your mana bar into an HP bar

ebon meadow
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Mom is good yea

exotic wave
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(also makes you immune to bleed IIRC)

fierce moth
ebon meadow
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Not tested though in Poe 2 yet

fierce moth
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not immune bleeding

exotic wave
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frankly right now EVERYONE should either be MoM+ES or Eva/ES

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depending on how much int they can spare

ebon meadow
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Eva is to hard to stack on witch

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But posible

exotic wave
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well MoM+ES is better

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by far

ebon meadow
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Also can go ghost shroud

exotic wave
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Eva/ES is the lesser option

ebon meadow
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I have a helmet with mom I should actually try it

exotic wave
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For reference: you need good mana regen for MoM too

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Spellcasters (or even more so Stormweavers) get it for free

ebon meadow
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I have perfect mana regen XD

exotic wave
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STormweavers get an insane version

ebon meadow
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My mana doesn't drop below 95%

exotic wave
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also I guess Chayula monks get it via leech

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well MoM makes you lose mana first before health/ES

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so with the hits you'll take it can be a little scuffed without regen

fierce moth
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I active this node too, so i can have more max mana

exotic wave
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well yeah

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of course you do

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Because it doesn't actually strip you of ES lol

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there's a reason people are getting 10k+ ES and 8k+ mana lol

fierce moth
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that's why energy shield is disappeared here, but I don't think my defense is good enough yet

exotic wave
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well yes

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only 4k mana is lol

fierce moth
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Facepalm No idea why people can up to 6k+ mana

exotic wave
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they get super good chest/head pieces

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that just have +ES and +mana stuff crammed into it

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and then get more on rings+belts

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because again Mana=Damage for spellcasters

fierce moth
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Do it mean I must give up stacking intelligence?

exotic wave
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same way int=Damage for attackers

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no

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int=mana

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(it's a suffix anyways)

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Mana+ES are prefixes

fierce moth
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fine so nothing I can do so far

exotic wave
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your pathing might be partly the problem

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efficient pathing is how my gemling has all the minion nodes (and i do mean all of the notables and most of the minors)

fierce moth
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pathing?

exotic wave
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on the passive tree

fierce moth
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oh wait a moment, open the game

exotic wave
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learn when it's worth it to grab some nodes over others etc

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(PoB 2 when, GIVE PLZ?!)

fierce moth
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πŸ€” I don't know where can I edit on passive tree because I see nothing I did wrong

ebon meadow
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My tree is very different from it's lol

fierce moth
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show yours

ebon meadow
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Umm check Zizs guide I m outside touching grass ATM

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There's link to maxxroll tree in description

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And I m not even spark yet I m still leveling as cold

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But I see no es nodes ,no ele damage mods at all from the start

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No mana Inc nodes neither at start

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U have end game tree but without the equipment threshold ment

exotic wave
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lol I'm a little busy to try and straighten out that tree lol

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waiting on repairman

ebon meadow
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The tree is probably good but u don't have the equipment to have it to full potential

exotic wave
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it's... not

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I'll start from the basic, recoup is garbage

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(RIP unneeded nerf from PoE 1)

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it's an over 8 second effect

ebon meadow
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I m talking without even checking what she picked lol but guessing since she was following a guide

exotic wave
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oh lol I was looking at Kirras

fierce moth
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I'm confused why I can't find his guide

ebon meadow
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Gimme a sec

fierce moth
exotic wave
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Either way a lot of people need to learn to not follow guides in PoE

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So Recoup restores over 8 seconds

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it's not instant

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think of it like leech

ebon meadow
exotic wave
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ANd if you can't restore your full bar in 8 seconds something is VERY wrong with your build

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(really you should be able to do it within 4 or something is wrong)

ebon meadow
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8 seconds in Poe is a very long time

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Nothing defences should be dragged that long

fierce moth
exotic wave
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yep

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I at first was like "yo, I can build 100% recoup? that's amazing"

fierce moth
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Recouped by mana even don't start to work then I'm died

exotic wave
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then learned it was 8 seconds unless chrono

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and I was like "...why the nerf?"

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(chorno can make it 4)

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(which is still insanely long but fine as a 3rd-tier defensive layer behind ES and Mana+Regen)

fierce moth
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But what can I do on defense else instead of recouped by mana

exotic wave
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Just stack tons of regen

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and tons of max mana

ebon meadow
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Mana rwgen and es regen

exotic wave
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and of course cap+raise cap if you can on resists

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CI is cracked

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making you immune to Poison, Chaos Damage and currently Bleed

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(since RIGHT NOW bleed only applies if it does damage to the HP bar on the hit)

fierce moth
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I converted all energy shield to mana so I guess I can't use CI

exotic wave
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Sure you can

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CI doesn't make your mana bar 0 lol

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if you have MoM

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the order is Mana>ES>Health

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instead of ES>Health

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and yes with EB you CAN have ES

fierce moth
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ok then it's perfect. 20% damage Recouped by mana -> CI

exotic wave
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all it does it convert the base ES into Mana

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same way CI sets your final HP to 1

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(so after any conversions)

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hence why a certain amulet is BiS for everyone but stat stackers

fierce moth
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oh so 4121 mana and 1 life? lol

exotic wave
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buddy

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most life builds struggle to break 3k life

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with 0 ES lol

ebon meadow
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Wile es builds go over 6 k XD

exotic wave
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for the same level of gear needed to break that you'll flow past 8k mana and ES in the 3-4k

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and quickly going up

fierce moth
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I feel 18% chaos resistance is too poor indeed

ebon meadow
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Ur immune to chaos with ci

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But u do need at least 4 k es and very good regen

exotic wave
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well 4k mana works

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but you should probably fix that

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what is your ascension anyways?

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if you're demon form for instance htat would be a bad idea

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to take CI I mean

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likewise if you're Stormweaver 4k mana is both hilariously lol but also still "plenty"

ebon meadow
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Ohh lord we do need a PoB already for PoE2 lol we have filterblade now just a little more work

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Nah she is a storm thingy

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Weaver

exotic wave
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PoB was suppose to be out today

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but I guess they're waiting on patch notes and will update the tree and then release it

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oh Stormweaver gets to cheat

ebon meadow
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I m crossing fingers so much for it

exotic wave
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take Force of Will

ebon meadow
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It's so much easier to help people with it

exotic wave
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if the build you have isn't using Force of WIll it's wrong

fierce moth
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oh one more point I need. Then I have to give up 3% cast speed...

exotic wave
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lol don't have my tree/game open but I think maybe that far left circle

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yeah those are garbage

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10% to gain Arcane Surge

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Stormweaver

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Dies laughing

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and we just went over why recoup is bad

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that's a LOT of pathing for some questionable value

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(although 80% increased regen is a lot)

fierce moth
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? Why arcane surge is useless

exotic wave
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(not sure it's worth the 11 points)

ebon meadow
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Well if u can keep up the uptime on it it can be good but sacrificing pathing there is questionable

exotic wave
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Because Stormweaver gets permanent Arcane Surge

ebon meadow
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^

exotic wave
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Of the "Has Arcange Surge" variety

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it's an absolutely bananas effect with teh way MoM works

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(oh and they can then get a supercharged version of Surge to boot)

fierce moth
exotic wave
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1% increased effect of AS per 15 mana

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Constant Gale

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"You have Arcane Surge"

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lmao

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behind it gives the 1% increased effect per 15 mana

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(and both minors are 4% max mana)

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also ether flow is a questionable major to have

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Also you ahve a lot of wasted travel points Kirra

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and I mean a LOT

fierce moth
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oh......OHHHHHHHHH you're right holy god

viral galleon
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I pathed near the %increase arcane surge effect on my storm weaver and I took it

exotic wave
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tl;dr your tree reeks of "new to game" stuff

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I mean... yeah

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because it's right next to MoM lol

fierce moth
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I forget that compeletely hhhh

viral galleon
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I'm not running mom though I'm ci

exotic wave
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...take MoM anyways?

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I just went over why they don't conflict but actually just make each other better

viral galleon
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It cuts mana regen in half

exotic wave
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"lmao" says the build with 8k mana

ebon meadow
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If they having issues with mana pool (witch they shouldn't ) taking mom can be really bad

exotic wave
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it's a slap on the wrist

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for any sane build

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and for Chayula Leechers it's not even a slap on the wrist lol

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instat Mana and ES leech is a stupid effect but it's on a terrible ascension so fair I guess

ebon meadow
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The issue I run in to I m underleved for the zones I m progressing and also my basic skill witch is frost lot making X10 less damage than frostbomb and coldsnap

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I want to bump my basic skill at least to 50% of my second skill damage

exotic wave
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ll I wasn't level approrpiate after mid act 2 IIRC

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until like post-game

ebon meadow
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Yep same thing

exotic wave
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that's just normal

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outside of HC of course

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just don't end up like -8 and you'll be fine

ebon meadow
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I can do Bose's but it feels like lost ark Bose's now lol phased fights that drag to long

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Good thing I can survive that long

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Witch is dumb I do it on witch and I can't do it on monk xd

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How is this weaver more tanky than a melΓ© char is beyond my comprehension

exotic wave
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because Int defenses are by and far the best lol

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ES and the rest have always been an either "Best or worst" thing

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and right now they're CRACKED

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high end MoM+DB+CI builds are getting like 20k ES, 10 Mana

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and 80% tri res IIRC

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meanwhile armor can reduce physical damage by like... 1k

fierce moth
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Ok I move that 4 points from arcane surge to there

exotic wave
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wait... you don't have the nodes in your starting area for ES+Mana?

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???

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okay so general rule of thumb btw?

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Speed>>>>>>>Everything

fierce moth
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You mean this one?

exotic wave
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(the less reduced thing is that for MOST SKILLS IN THE GAME looks at maces, Plasma Blast and like a handful of others that AS or CS=More Multiplier)

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yeah that one lol

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and all the flat ES

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(or the absurd % ES nodes)

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look at it another way

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30% increase ES, +10 Int

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is basically 30% increased Life, +20 Life if it was for life builds

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that's how insane that shit is

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(it's not exactly 1:1 but close)

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but yeah anyways Cast and Attack Speed (as well as Skill Speed for either) is amazing

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it's why it's so rare

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unless you're maces lmao

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then it's common but it's all reduced dies

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also then you get +X Final Attack Speed so I guess even infite speed wouldn't matter Dies harder

fierce moth
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Ok Improved a lot

exotic wave
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you can improve it more lol

fierce moth
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Then I guess this belt is useless too because the sense is 50% damage recouped by mana only

exotic wave
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correct

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it's a good leveling belt

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but it's just too weak by the time mapping comes around

fierce moth
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I still feel it's crazy that surviving in maps with 1 life and these mana only lol

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I'm wonder where have i got 10% chaos resistance... 8% chaos resistances from my gears only

viral galleon
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If you go ci eb mom, do you just die if you get inflicted with bleed?

ebon meadow
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Charm or other sources from poison and bleed degens

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Also bleed and poison don't bypass es so u still fine

exotic wave
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with MoM bleed goes to mana bar if you somehow get it

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you're immune to poison with CI so yeha

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since as of the current patch

ebon meadow
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Wait it's immune fully to poisons or only the bleed part ?

exotic wave
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Bleed ONLY applies if damage hits your life

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fully immune to poison

ebon meadow
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Phys degen still get u no ?

exotic wave
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because poison is chaos damage

ebon meadow
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Wtf that's broken

exotic wave
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and bleed only applies if it hits life and if anything hits you're life you're dead

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it's 100% not staying that way/intended

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because the recent interview had then puzzled that it works that way

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so it probably has worked that way on the test/internal build in a while

ebon meadow
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It's a weird way to work sure

exotic wave
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(it's another reason phys builds suck lol)

ebon meadow
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Poisons are not just chaos they also Phys degen

exotic wave
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nah pure chaos damage

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they scale on phys and chaos damage dealt by hit

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but are themselves chaos damage

ebon meadow
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Humm that is a big metigation lol

exotic wave
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yeah you're immune to 1/5 of the damage types

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and one of the major ailments

ebon meadow
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Is there an RF now I want to make an RF

exotic wave
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that USUALLY hard counters ES

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as Poison DOES pierce ES

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Poison damage goes straight to the health pool

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there IS a RF

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...it's on minions

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and it's best on infernalist

ebon meadow
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Yea because of the Phys tag and that's by passes es

exotic wave
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because their dog (which you should get anyways) has it by default

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no?

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Phys doesn't pierce ES

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poison just does that's like... its thing

ebon meadow
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Doesn't it ?

exotic wave
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nope

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Bleeding does

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but again you have to hit life damage to inflict it right now...

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but phys itself does not

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Chaos does double damage to ES everything else is normal

ebon meadow
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That's cracked

exotic wave
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note: with MoM it will damage MoM first if you get Bleed somehow

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(all damage goes to Mana first)

ebon meadow
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It only should be metigating chaos but not all Phys degens

exotic wave
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so MoM+CI is just CI+ lol

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well the only phys degen is bleed

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and it's negated because anything that would inflict bleed IMMEDIATELY KILLS YOU because well 1 HP

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and since bleed does damage based on the damage done to your health by the hit...

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even if you would be applies a 1000k bleed

ebon meadow
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Ohh lord how did they manage to spaghetti code this one's again

exotic wave
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the 10m hit needed to apply bleed of 1m would have killed you 9,999,999 damage ago

ebon meadow
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So u can actually be just one tapped if u roll a map rather with bad mods or the zone having bad monster type

exotic wave
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This is the problem life has yes

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it's why all life builds stack life regen to absurd degrees

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(or go Vaal Pact)

viral galleon
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"Bleed was supposed to be an anti-mage mechanic" while most mages are flat out immune to it lol

ebon meadow
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I m not an HC player but holy u need some brain and effort there with ci

exotic wave
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nah

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Get MoM>Get CI>Get EB>Pretend you have a life build with Blood mage but life pool is 8k

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(mind you almost all high strength builds NEED blood magic)

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(simply because of mana costs lol)

ebon meadow
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Nope bleed still is a thing that is deadly for a lot of builds ,and now we don't have a flask or jewel to be immune to it

exotic wave
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or you just have CI

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and get free immunity

ebon meadow
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Think we have a trinket though

exotic wave
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simply because of how Bleed works

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now when they ship the bleed change

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CI w/out MoM will instant die to bleed

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so CI will require MoM to function

ebon meadow
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Also a specific gameplay of not turreting u skills with mom so u mana depletes instantly

exotic wave
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that's what surge is for

ebon meadow
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It is fair defences for a sacrificed gameplay

exotic wave
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AS can restore your entire bar in a proper build in like 2 seconds

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or just be a chayula monk

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and any physical damage you do immediately becomes ES and Mana

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(or just Mana if you don't take the node behind it)

ebon meadow
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My monk is pure Eva I m not changing I rather play another build

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It is heavy regen on es but mostly Eva

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But his best mechanic is freezing everything on 3rd hit so ...

twilit mountain
ebon meadow
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finally home xd

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i have it saved on pc not on my phone and Ziz xchenaged somethings as updates went on

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the diference is i m leveling as cold combo as someone else suggesting and not changing to spark untill 46+

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but the mana pull is just a wall it never goes down underf 95%

ebon meadow
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Ohh no I see my 2 best friends from childhood picking up the game and now playing HC for last week and not passing lvl 20 lol

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We don't talk much today but holy I m feeling like a Sargent and putting those two puss back in their place omegalul

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One is an old D2 player other is just ok with games and they have played Poe1 but they need scolding

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Otherways I m proud they bashing heads and I don't want to get involved

ebon meadow
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U don't need chaos Res lmao there's limited thing in game that can kill u with that

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Even having chaos Res at 0 is already an achievement

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Think on how many things can kill u in game with chaos damage then u think how u can metigate it in end game

ebon meadow
#

I would worry more about bleed than chaos damage

twilit mountain
#

Bleed isn't a worry in PoE2, it barely does anything

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If you have even like 10 ES it does literally nothing

ebon meadow
#

Or for that fact any phys degens

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It's one rare out of what 20-50 that have those chaos balls that u can dash or roll out for now

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It's a good damage type for players but not for mobs we have in game

fierce moth
#

Oh damn... That's as like as a side quest in poe, permanent choices in campaign Facepalm

ebon meadow
#

Lmao don't say that

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They like free passives in poe1

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It has to be done

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Good part u can go back to it now and rather pick it or choose it

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Do all Ur objectives in campaign for now speatially the ones that have passive tree points or perm stats

fierce moth
#

I'll select +5 all attributes and 25% mana regeneration if I can select again Facepalm

ebon meadow
#

Why u think king of the mist is a must wile or before finishing the act

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Free stats should never be avoided they can be postponed

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Overlevel and overpower those and ones u get to maps it's a huge difference

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They are usually the base sats that rest of u multipliers scale from 5 points with 400% Inc is a 20 not a 5

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More u go in on multi more Ur base scale

fierce moth
#

I guess I had selected mana regeneration because another two is useless, but the cruel one... I'm sure my choice isn't +5 all attributes

ebon meadow
#

no no

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its the mana ones

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and es

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but ur level 88 i think so its diferent now

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or 78 sorry i cant remember

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thats my initial pob

fierce moth
#

I'm down 10 levels in your mind automatically

ebon meadow
#

and thats whn i switch to spark xd

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on stormwever ? realy i thought ts 88

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at that level 10 levels are few hours tbf

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i havent even ascended or did side quests lol cold leveling just goes brrr

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i might need to level 3 times in same zone now xd

ebon meadow
#

how did i missed i m bluffed

hexed stream
hexed stream
hexed stream
hexed stream
hexed stream
exotic wave
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Yeah it was suppose to be out 8 hours ago

#

that didn't happen

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PoB 2 I mean

hexed stream
#

maybe need another 8h to cook

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like a proper stew

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πŸ˜‚

visual pulsar
#

Patch almost here

hexed stream
#

poor with no ex

hexed stream
#

cool, aug = div

viral galleon
fierce moth
#

Or 110d πŸ‘€

hexed stream
#

nah lol, never rich enough for 100+d

fierce moth
#

...I never see a patch note as long as this one, 0.0.1 patch for poe 2

blissful token
#

Adjusted the damaging area of Bahlak, the Sky Seer's Tornadoes to more closely match the visual effects. Tornadoes now push you slightly away when they appear, and now deal less damage when they first appear before ramping up.

narrow token
#

Whodat?

mental talon
fierce moth
#

FrightenedGroleWrongDirection ...t16 map is gone

hexed stream
blissful token
#

I like checkpoints being added to Maps

fierce moth
#

and it still flying to the moon

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...It's odd. Already updated?

hexed stream
#

perfection

surreal lotus
fierce moth
#

sigh triple negative numbers :(

surreal lotus
#

dew it

hexed stream
visual pulsar
#

Patch notes ahh someone posted it earlier see it now

fierce moth
#

Facepalm wow that's damn high risky

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I'll lose 118e if i still get them all negative lol

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The good thing is I shattered this ring already lol

fierce moth
#

alright all of the latest deaths caused by be frozen Facepalm

#

this charm isn't useful at all

surreal lotus
#

and even then, it's only good for the first two rooms lmfao

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I do think that charms are incredibly undercooked though. There's only a handful that are actually useful, and they're only useful for two instances and that's it. They're awful as an actual defensive layer

shut ferry
#

Gear up first

fierce moth
#

The design of this boss is super successful lol
Comments still going after over a month omegalul

hexed stream
#

anyone still has crashing problem with poe2? download poeuncrasher, may help

vagrant topaz
narrow token
hexed stream
#

it's a windows 24h2 update issue, everyone rolling back to previous windows version has no issue, I plan to do this soon coz I also intend to buy a new 256gb nvme for installing windows

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I'm still amazed tempest flurry is sucha popular skill and yet I could buy a level 20 20% for only 2d

narrow token
#

Idk if I can roll back my windows version at this point.

shut ferry
#

Switch to vulkan

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Never crashed

narrow token
#

I did that weeks ago. Didn't work.

hexed stream
#

doesn't work

#

actually, this must be the biggest change for the game

shut ferry
#

Weird

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Somany good updates

shut ferry
#

What a design...

fierce moth
#

Get a matcha ice cream this week finally :)

fierce moth
#

Lol just find that even I have been across this hall lots of times

hexed stream
#

I guess it's time to invest more into delirium, kinda get tired of breach

desert jasper
#

Time for delirious breach

hexed stream
#

that'll be great combo

hexed stream
#

most expensive item I've bought so far in this game

fierce moth
hexed stream
#

45

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the guide instructs another jewel, which costs 120d and 1 extra passive required, so I was like: why not this instead

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actually I save 2 passives, not just 1

fierce moth
#

@exotic wave should I purchase Kitoko's Current Jewelled Gloves to improve my survival but lose 29 intelligence, 137 mana and 15% rarity item found chance?
I need to balance my resistances too...

100% I will die if I meet an rare enemy with blue circle (drain mana) and move quickly (leap at me) so I want to ask how are you deal with that

exotic wave
#

spoilers: you don't

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(real talk you do but via arcane surge restoring stupid fast)

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super fast mana drainers are by far the most dangerous thing in the game lol

#

well outside pinnacles

fierce moth
#

Yeah so I want to know how will you do with them if you meet one suddenly

#

I can deal most of rare enemies but under they don't have drain mana mod

hexed stream
#

most spark players solve that by 2 ways: either enough dps, or convert spark damage to cold to cc the dangerous mobs

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for your situation, I advise the latter

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coz it's also a cheaper solution

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and I suspect you also play spark the non-optimal way, you're supposed to use spark when you see enemies at the screen edge, not when they are nearer

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spark can travel screens away

shut ferry
#

35+ per map, better than breach a lot

hexed stream
#

is simulacrum easy? I have 1 already and if necessary I'll buy 3 more to finish its atlas

shut ferry
#

To me it's the hardest cuz my build has bad clear speed

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I can one shot even arbitor but struggle with simulacrum

hexed stream
#

so it favors builds with crazy clear speed right?

shut ferry
#

ye

hexed stream
#

similar to breach

shut ferry
#

Any witchhunter here ???

fierce moth
#

Better than me a lot :)

fierce moth
#

Even Ziz

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Ok I try adding lv 18 frostwall to my skills bar

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oh then I need to adjust passive tree, get many freeze buildup nodes

#

Oh another thing I'm confused is why this build needs more skill effect duration

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πŸ€” which one can bring more damage, more magnitude of shock or more skill effect duration?

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πŸ€” I must give up 45% mana regeneration, 10 intelligence and 20% cast speed to exchange 95% freeze buildup and 60% extra damage emmmm

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50% less life for enemies or for ice crystals is my question for this support gem... the description is confusing

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Not sure frostwall can interact with spark as like as flamewall or not too

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I have no idea why Ziz not select this one for the frostwall too

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emmmmmmmm I suppose my spark version is better than him lol

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.... Then why you show us frostwall lol

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Another question is archmage in his skill list, he activated it too but he don't stack mana

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....then why he don't use cast on shock instead of archmage lol archmage is much more expensive than cast on shock to use

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hah wait maybe I can put frostwall in cast on shock if i want to freeze enemies

shut ferry
#

Other class only need 3-5 mins 😦

hexed stream
#

also archmage is compulsory for damage

#

you never want to put that away

fierce moth
#

I guess the same effect I can do if I have 60 spirit to use blink?

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Whatever I want freeze buildup or blink, more spirit is a msut but I lack 7 more spirit to use cast on shock or blink together with archmage lol

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Shopping time

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πŸ€” 60e

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well blink is very cool hhhhhh

#

Let's test do this deal is worthwhile or not

#

222 mana, super juicy :)

shut ferry
#

Wow

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For a manastacker that's quite good

hexed stream
#

ok let's test out the simulacrum

shut ferry
#

Ye need help ?

hexed stream
#

I'll try first, should be no problem with this gemling

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I'll become laughing stock if 100d invested into the build cannot do simulacrum

shut ferry
#

set 1-2-3 is easy, should be ok

hexed stream
#

lol dead

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I'm such an embarrassment

fierce moth
#

Facepalm I can complete the first delirious map you gave if i don't meet the boss

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Facepalm this is the last delirious map I own too

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Holy god, level up just too hard under this case (death=lose experience)...

shut ferry
shut ferry
hexed stream
fierce moth
shut ferry
#

Overwhelmed by monster ?

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That's the only way you die

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Or some mods that deals extra dmg

shut ferry
hexed stream
#

I can't be overwhelmed, as a gemling stat stacker

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something else must have killed me, maybe some chaos damage, coz I have -13% chaos res

shut ferry
#

Check monster's mods everywave bro

hexed stream
#

there are mods that can brick your run?

shut ferry
#

Monster deals X chaos dmg = you rip

hexed stream
#

lol true

shut ferry
#

There's non, only my own lag kills me

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or 30 fps

hexed stream
#

ok I realize the issue now
simulacrum just doesn't have enough enemies for the build to perform well

shut ferry
#

Need to constantly kill ?

hexed stream
#

no, need high density so that the damage from heralds can happen

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all the time my 2 heralds were useless

#

I assume spark is the best build for doing simulacrum, or LA deadeye

shut ferry
#

Ya

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Spark is the best

#

This guy 24/7 farming simulacrum

#

He almost 99

fierce moth
#

sorry?

#

Facepalm I suppose Bjorn's minion build is better for that

hexed stream
#

ok I'll redo simu tomorrow, hopefully better luck

fierce moth
#

.........Be one-shot again

shut ferry
#

Not for clearing things T_T

hexed stream
#

is there a way for bosser to be rich now? like in poe1 there are players exclusively doing boss

shut ferry
#

I think doing service also make us rich

fierce moth
#

Facepalm Another insane big map

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alright, this is my max damage...Under lv18 sigil of power and cast spark near orb of storm

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πŸ™ƒ Just lack of lightning skill level bonus on staff

#

... Damn then I don't know how to switch back to weapon set 1... I'm stay on weapon 2

junior oyster
#

Currently binge watching smallville xD

fierce moth
#

ok my map stash close to run out too

hexed stream
#

Can give you 10-15 tomorrow, I have too many

fierce moth
#

My build is map killer lol (I mean be slain by one-shot often)

vapid junco
#

ok imagine
cursor that reacts to how much mana/hp you have

fierce moth
#

oh sorry no cursor on controller UI unfortunately πŸ˜…

vapid junco
#

its a common courtesy to delay or abandon console QoL

#

so anyway

ebon meadow
#

I bought the cursor pack because I kept loosing my cursor on screen

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But that's actually a cool idea about hp and mana one

fierce moth
#

oh this is a good base I guess?

desert jasper
ebon meadow
ebon meadow
vapid junco
fierce moth
#

search the price on market, don't think rolls on affixes of my quartstaff is competitive...

#

Who owns this account?

junior oyster
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

ebon meadow
#

Not me neither

#

For some reason that name looks like a mix of Latin and Chinese name to me

ebon meadow
vagrant topaz
ebon meadow
#

Sound like an upgrade

fierce moth
#

πŸ˜… I sold it to the NPC already

viral galleon
fierce moth
#

waiting my exalted orbs go to my wallet

ebon meadow
fierce moth
#

πŸ™ƒ No divine orb today

ebon meadow
#

Stop flipping curency start selling gear and learning what people need and why

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It's not a bad thing just not that profitable when u l end up needing the things Ur selling

junior oyster
#

That's barely currency flipping. She makes one extra ex at most lol

fierce moth
#

No idea why this unique item dropped triple times today...So this is 3rd one

junior oyster
#

It's ok but it's kinda trash for minion builds imo

#

Good for levelling maybe

fierce moth
#

Holy god, I get the fun of breach finally... Can 4x than all loots I get from a map

ebon meadow
ebon meadow
fierce moth
#

πŸ‘€ oh Europeans and Americans can play a new patch of poe 2 one hour later

ebon meadow
#

huh?

#

how so the game goes down same time for all continemts

exotic wave
#

Because Kirra is going to do a crime and cut internet to Europe and America for 1 hour right as the patch comes up.

hexed stream
#

leveling with a minion build is always scepter main hand, oakskin shield offhand

exotic wave
#

ANd it'll get MORE trash as we get more minion uniques

#

as eventually you'll be running mostly if not entirely uniques

#

with the sole exception might be helm and necklace

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(as you can get +3 to minions from each)

#

(but that does mean your head will always be a corruption lol)

#

Also it's pretty easy to get 80% to all res for minions

#

(well 75 chaos and I think like 50 phys?)

candid sage
#

no self promotion in the server, please

hexed stream
#

I played tempest flurry gemling wrong all the time lol, turn out I need to use a level 5 gem instead of 20

blissful token
#

Mana cost too high?

#

Use at min level?

hexed stream
#

yes
especially for boss, when sustained dps matters more than burst dps

#

and also MoM

#

more mana cost is a death sentence

exotic wave
#

you know, they said they made armor roughly 15% increased effective

#

...do you think they just changed the formula from 12 to 10?

#

Because I don't THINK my armor rating actually went up

hexed stream
#

they need to make it at least 100% for armor to be meaningful at all

exotic wave
#

well if I'm right about the change

#

it means armor is still trash lol

#

(for reference that means you need to have 10x the armor to the phys damage you take to have 50% resistance)

#

(20x for 75% and 90x for 90% (max) resistance)

#

or in other words, you need around 450k armor to mitigate whites 😐

viral galleon
exotic wave
#

Honestly with how low armor values are, they could probably reduce it to 5 lol

hexed stream
#

I failed 2nd simu again, fk me

#

140ex gone

fierce moth
#

πŸ‘€ Altas map zoom out a lot

#

Wow, the experience is a loooooooooot better

#

the end on the same floor, no walls blocks my view, anymore and I don't need to go up and down always

hexed stream
#

another 150ex gone

#

so now I figure out: just 0.5s not attacking and you'll be dead

fierce moth
#

they one shot me at the beginning in a new lost tower map πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

#

Open maps are much more difficult than linear maps πŸ™ƒ

hexed stream
#

what's your ES?

#

I almost never see anyone playing spark and die so often

exotic wave
#

you can se it on the image, 0 ES, 4559 Mana

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(which is still crazy low)

fierce moth
#

yeah let see update my gloves...

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My boots bonus 121 mana, my gloves bonus 131 mana. These're what I need to update

exotic wave
#

for reference, every piece of your armor should have on the front in on all three slots either ES or Mana (or both as a hybrid roll)

fierce moth
#

Facepalm That boots need 1d then

#

I guess I can't use this treasure directly..

hexed stream
#

finally done with all 4 simu

#

it's the most sleep inducing experience I've seen in this game

#

now is time to get rich with deli

fierce moth
#

highfive Get that by spent 60e only

hexed stream
#

you cap all your res already?

fierce moth
#

yeah...I think everything which spend exalted orbs instead of divine orbs is very cheap in this duration πŸ˜… The price overall are crazy

#

that's why I want cold resistance on gloves

#

Current gloves

hexed stream
#

I'll see if I can help, my 15ex quad tab is filling up

hexed stream
#

lol, 1 white stellar amulet is sold for 35-50ex on tft now

visual pulsar
#

This patch is amazing

#

But my chars still suck

#

Just due to me being bad haha

fierce moth
#

πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ ...

Ok my spirit status recovered a lot and I feel better after watched double funny videos and laughed a few times

#

Very happy to take a short break from grinding gears in poe 2

hexed stream
#

dropped 3 logbooks in 1 single map, wonder if I should try my luck with expedition boss

fierce moth
#

@junior oyster are you want to run many trials plus casual t15 maps tonight? Do chaos or sekhemas, I have many offerings

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πŸ‘€ I'm curious about what will going on in floor 3&4 of sekhemas

fierce moth
#

How will we deal with loots if a divine orb or perfect jeweller's orb or something rare like them drop suddenly?

junior oyster
#

Probably split the money

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Or I could perm allo

fierce moth
#

sorry what's perm allo

#

split money = exchange them to exalted orbs to split?

hexed stream
junior oyster
fierce moth
#

hah I guess party farming in poe 2 is supposed to that? I noticed many loots I can't pick up when I praty with Bjorn before

junior oyster
#

Yea some items you can't pick up anyway

#

Like waystones and tablets while in the host map

fierce moth
#

All unique items aren't available for another players, except the host

junior oyster
#

Yea not sure about that

fierce moth
junior oyster
#

I haven't done any party runs

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But I'm aware of waystones and tablets

fierce moth
#

I know only host can interact with ritual rewards and pick up unique items from drops

junior oyster
#

Yea ritual is host only

shut ferry
harsh willow
#

this server kinda dead

#

πŸ’€

#

and one channel thats active is poe2

junior oyster
#

Well duh

harsh willow
#

i just joined

#

sadge

junior oyster
#

There is a poe2 channel?

fierce moth
#

Because poe 2 is a new game and you know how popular is it

harsh willow
#

i came from poe2

shut ferry
#

Even lost epoch's devs they do play poe 2 too

junior oyster
#

Le s1 has been out now for like 4-5 months xd

harsh willow
#

burned out, endgame is terrible

#

πŸ˜”

#

400+ hours

junior oyster
#

Play d4 xd

harsh willow
#

wanted to try another arpg

sand wigeon
#

d4 is fun yeah

junior oyster
#

You came at the wrong time for le imo

harsh willow
#

yup i realize it now

sand wigeon
#

tbf i'm of the make that "a good time for le" hasn't been around for a long time

harsh willow
#

too late i guess? unless next season brings players back

sand wigeon
#

the game's had no significant changes for nearly five years

#

just mono's, mono's and mono's

shut ferry
#

If you found out poe2'e endgame is terrible

sand wigeon
#

yeah poe2's endgame is also not good right now

junior oyster
#

Play grim dawn

#

Mod it

#

Enjoy

sand wigeon
#

imo poe2 just isn't in a good state right now in general, though i'm holding off until full release to give more solid opinions

fierce moth
# harsh willow yup i realize it now

why? I think it's right time because everything you asked about le can get answers quickly when a server isn't so popular...

I don't like chatting in poe 2 server because too many prople there and they flooded my messages quickly so I never get notice from another people

harsh willow
#

im taking a break until next league arrives in poe2

harsh willow
sand wigeon
#

it is, yeah

#

most of the key community figures who were around very often simply don't talk as much

#

and quite a few left altogether

fierce moth
#

I'm done with 1.1 in le so I'm quiet too

sand wigeon
#

there was a time just before 1.0 and multiplayer where the server is thriving, but the server kinda fell to the wayside after the massive influxes of people

hexed stream
#

both d4 and d3 seasons are around the corner
and TQ2 may release anytime soon TM

sand wigeon
#

esp since most of the people who played the game a lot simply have nothing to do in it anymore, since there have been no significant changes in five years

#

the last real endgame update was dungeons

harsh willow
#

I see

fierce moth
#

I don't like poe 2's endgame too but I can play poe 2 only before tq 2 is out

sand wigeon
#

some of the people are still around but just don't talk as much, like Deias, but others who were hardcore players such as Leo (not in the server anymore, you wouldn't know them) literally don't touch the game anymore

#

it's pretty sad

harsh willow
#

well 5 years without any major update

fierce moth
#

d4 is too boring

harsh willow
#

will repel people

#

if what u say is true

junior oyster
#

I enjoy d4 more than le and that makes me kinda sad

shut ferry
#

Right now you can' find any better than poe2 i have to say

sand wigeon
#

i love d4 so i enjoy it quite a lot

#

though i rarely delve superhard into arpg endgame

sand wigeon
fierce moth
#

but poe 2 isn't prefect at all too

sand wigeon
#

so d4 was mainly good thanks to the writing, voice acting etc

#

poe2 has a LOT of issues

harsh willow
#

πŸ’€

junior oyster
#

Have you tried d4?

harsh willow
#

endgame is so tedious i grow nauseous opening atlas map

sand wigeon
#

d4 is expensive though

junior oyster
#

New season of d4 starting soon

harsh willow
#

expensive? how so

sand wigeon
sand wigeon
harsh willow
#

oh yes

#

well how bad will my experience be if i start LE now

sand wigeon
#

it'll be... fine. the endgame is just worse poe2 endgame, though.

junior oyster
#

Just play offline mode

harsh willow
#

its worse than poe2?

sand wigeon
#

yeah

shut ferry
#

Trust me..i was a harcode LE player

junior oyster
#

Le2?

#

You from the future?

shut ferry
#

Oh shit Le

junior oyster
#

Lol

fierce moth
#

lol

shut ferry
#

poe2 is better

sand wigeon
#

i myself have mostly been playing some of the single player classics, like pyre and terraria, recently

junior oyster
#

Ye

sand wigeon
#

inbetween working, that is

harsh willow
#

sadge

#

so this is the state of arpgs

fierce moth
junior oyster
#

I'm still waiting on gd expansion 3 lol

harsh willow
#

can you elaborate @sand wigeon

sand wigeon
#

yeah, no probs

shut ferry
#

But still, i have faith in POE2, look at the changes of this newest patch, they do work alot to improve gameplay

fierce moth
#

I hate be one shot always in the endgame then lose my experience again and again, then I never can level one more anymore

#

Many maps have narrow paths and many rare enemies just one shot you, no chance to fight

sand wigeon
#

Last Epoch endgame follows a nearly identical structure to Path of Exile's 2 endgame. It's essentially the same core concept, simply presented differently. In Last Epoch, you go map to map in a web-like atlas tree, selecting which maps to run for different rewards, as long as they're connected to a previously finished map. After each map, you gain accumulation to a total "corruption" bar, which allows you to challenge bosses when filled, and move on in the atlas. That's it. There's no interactivity past that, not really any modifiers.

#

Aside from the modifiers inherently present to each map on the tree

harsh willow
#

I see

junior oyster
shut ferry
#

And the boss, you can only see Orobyss as a boss to defeat..

#

There is nothing else

fierce moth
#

yeah always no idea why i'm died suddenly

sand wigeon
#

it's the deias

#

terrifying.

fierce moth
#

Nemesis is interesting but you need many unforged gears to feel the fun

sand wigeon
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Dungeons are, like, fun, usually. But they've received practically zero change since introduced and aside from one specific dungeon, don't really offer much

twilit mountain
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Hiya, I was mentioned earlier, I've got about 1500 hours in LE, give or take.
The endgame is severely lacking as there's really only two bosses that matter/do anything and one of them takes forever to gain access to. Target farming is utter hell, the economy is pretty ass, and the balance... oh man, the balance. It is a travesty.
Falconer is a free win because you can give your falcon well over 200% more damage for the price of a single skill point, meanwhile there's things like Sentinel who has to pay 3-5 skill points to get conditional multipliers.

sand wigeon
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And playing solo is objectively worse than playing trade

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Despite having mechanics that encourage not trading

twilit mountain
sand wigeon
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Mm

shut ferry
twilit mountain
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None of this is even getting into the fact that the game has so many bugs it might as well be an infestation

sand wigeon
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we should make bug stew

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mmm. beetles

twilit mountain
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Weren't you the one who yelped because a beetle flew near you during the summer?

sand wigeon
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you know in like all of high sci-fi basically when there's like alien beetles on planets and they're supersized

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and aliens roast them and then eat the gooey insides

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yeah that

sand wigeon
twilit mountain
twilit mountain
# harsh willow sounds awful

The game has incredible foundations but IMO it has been mismanaged to a severe level for a good while. I had no issues with a lot of this while it was still in EA, at least up until the last year of it. We're now coming up on a year out of EA and there's next to no recognisable changes that have happened since EA. Like Dream said above, the biggest change to the game's core were dungeons, which happened only a little bit after I bought the game in 2020

sand wigeon
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also the campaign still isn't finished

harsh willow
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wait how long did the EA run for?

hexed stream
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a few years, if you mean LE

harsh willow
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I see

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quite a stretch

hexed stream
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it's indeed very slow to pump out new contents, compared to another small team like GD dev

sand wigeon
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<@&1161418687471956101>

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scam

twilit mountain
hexed stream
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LE slowly reminds me of inquisitor martyr, good game good content, but can't stand a season every 6-12 months

hexed stream
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lol did anyone notice that the map loading speed is amazing now?

junior oyster
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My pc is trash so it'll be the same

fierce moth
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@shut ferry @hexed stream @junior oyster @sand wigeon @twilit mountain

I'm curious about a question, will you come back le after 1.2 is out to try new contents?

twilit mountain
sand wigeon
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probably not, i'm not the biggest arpg fan, i spend my time elsewhere

hexed stream
sand wigeon
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plus my time for playing games is slowly diminishing

junior oyster
shut ferry
junior oyster
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As always more than likely I'll just play the offline mode

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Can't believe I'm saying this but grim dawn offline mode > le, poe2 > le πŸ˜‚

twilit mountain
shut ferry
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DOn't forget that there are half of classes yet to be unleash in poe2...

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Druid.. huntress ..ya

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So no time for lost epoch

junior oyster
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I think the extra classes are unnecessary

twilit mountain
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I understand that there's still a bunch of missing classes. My issues with it are in core features of it, so no class additions are going o fix that for me

fierce moth
junior oyster
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Too many things poe2 does better than le lol

twilit mountain
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I mean. I disagree on that fundamentally. I'd kill for an ingame AH type sitch in PoE.

junior oyster
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Even d4 does better than le in many departments and that's big coming from that game

twilit mountain
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I have 7k+ hours in PoE1, I still despise trading in it, but I have to because the shit I play is not SSF viable.

junior oyster
fierce moth
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πŸ˜‚ ...

hexed stream
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LE is the king of ssf

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that's no doubt

fierce moth
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Well still that point then... it's depend on what are you care about the most then see the game do this thing well or not

junior oyster
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As someone who only plays le offline I guess ssf is the way to go

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Also being able to chat to other ssf offline people that is something nice

fierce moth
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I'm forced to play offline mode due to the first release week

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Thanks for offline mode to open a new world for me too, I learn ARPG steps by steps then

shut ferry
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That is why i won't come back to LE, since i can't make $$$ from the market

fierce moth
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Good at earning money always a good thing

fierce moth
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Maybe we can follow the rule is use my maps for a while then use your maps for a while

junior oyster
fierce moth
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oh so it's late night in my time. Ok

junior oyster
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Yea cuz you're from China right?

fierce moth
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yeah

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0:00-1:00

junior oyster
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You are I think 8 hours ahead of us

fierce moth
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πŸ‘€ I go to challenge sekhemas again now

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then play chaos to see can I kill the tornade bird

fierce moth
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Wait, but how about 1 life I have only XD

twilit mountain
fierce moth
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3nd floor, 666/4702 honour left now lol 6 silver keys are useless

hexed stream
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grinding gears time

fierce moth
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Why this boots is extreme unpopular on market...only two persons sell that

hollow coral
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Severance season 2 is out POG

exotic wave
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like 30% MS is when a boot becomes "Good"

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it's why some were asking GGG if they'd consider moving it to an implicit because it's the ONLY mod that matters on boots

fierce moth
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...keep over 1500 honour in floor 3 is super hard

hexed stream
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low life is a bigger issue for me, my builds so far don't quite need ms, either infernalist or flurry

exotic wave
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Nah all builds need MS

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It's one of the biggest cost points for minionmancers, is to get a major amount of reduced reservation you have to give up your MS

ebon meadow
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i m a bit confused here

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this is the guide

exotic wave
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But like pinnacles if nothing else demand super high MS

ebon meadow
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and this is in game tree

exotic wave
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it's increased

ebon meadow
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why the heil are nodes diferent

exotic wave
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?

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Because Chaos Damage skills, right now, are mostly non-ailment DoTs

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so effect duration is effectively more damage for them

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meanwhile shock is a big upgrade for lightning damage (being a 20% more damage taken effect)

ebon meadow
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no no , my nodes in that wheel are completely diferent

exotic wave
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oh

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witch vs sorc

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witch gets slightly different starting area nodes from everyone else

ebon meadow
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is it becouse of ascendancy ?

hexed stream
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all 3 have better options than ms

exotic wave
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you still want it

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for both pinnacle bosses

hexed stream
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no you don't, at all

exotic wave
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who you want as much MS as possible to move out of the way of their attacks

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(and to do mechanics for Ash so you don't get instant killed)

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and for moving around the way to big maps