📚┃off-topic

[blissful token]

I havent get to play the foxy game u recommended last time

[sand wigeon]

foxy game...

Tunic?

[hexed stream]

same but for LE
they pump out content too slowly, my biggest complaint

[blissful token]

Yeh

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, Tunic is fun. No need to rush playing it though

Time lets you live

[blissful token]

Mhwilds will be my jam for the year but i am be waiting for discount 👀

[twilit mountain]

Tunic is a hell of a game

[blissful token]

Prolly 1 year later

[sand wigeon]

I have... a lot to say about Last Epoch, but I don't think it's worth having that convo

[hexed stream]

and another big issue with LE is that the gameplay itself is not enjoyable
it's the kind of arpg that I enjoy more with the planner, than the gameplay

[sand wigeon]

Especially since my "commission" level right now is currently voided, I feel awful

So it's simply not worth dwelling on

[hexed stream]

the correct move, staying away from what makes you feel bad

[blissful token]

Somewhat agree. I spent hours on the planner

But i only got like 3 chars since release lmao

[sand wigeon]

Oh, no, I just meant that I'm degrading IRL and don't feel any worth toward repeating my opinions about that again

[hexed stream]

so far I got like 50+ builds
but I still hate it that monster density feels really bad in LE

[sand wigeon]

I'm a pretty casual ARPG player, and outside of PoE, I've never seriously spent time build planning

With PoE, I mostly did it for the benefit of others, anyway

[blissful token]

Some maps are better, just not all but thats monolith, campaign is ehhh

[blissful token]

I pretty much went blind with my mace warrior but eventually i had to start doing research

[sand wigeon]

Unrelated to ARPGs, I'm very excited that the weather is warming up

It was 30F today, which was nice to see

The one thing I look forward to in summer are the night walks

I think I might try and do something special for the summer solstice this year

[blissful token]

Thats -1 degree celcius?

[narrow token]

I feel like if I got up and walked, I'd have a heart attack and die.

[sand wigeon]

Presumably, if you converted it

[blissful token]

Oof

[narrow token]

Too many games to play. I can walk when I'm dead.

[sand wigeon]

Thinking I might spend the whole night out in the woods, just kinda walking and existing

Shortest night of the year, after all, so it's not like it'd be gruelling, especially with the humid, warm summer nights

[blissful token]

I once landed in Gold Coast, australia and it was like 17 - 19 degree celcius. I started shivering

[sand wigeon]

I'm used to far colder where I live

So it's unnaffected for me

It's awful for those unused to it, though

[blissful token]

Dunno whats the better word but thicc skinz

Jk

[narrow token]

cold weather > hot weather

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I'd always rather be cold than hot

But again, it's what I'm used to. I despise summer days, too warm for me.

[narrow token]

I can keep putting stuff on to get warm in cold weather. But once you're naked in the heat, what else is left?

[sand wigeon]

Aye. And not like being naked out in the sun is socially acceptable or good for you.

[narrow token]

Oh outside. Yeah, no chance I'm going out there.

"If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect INSIDE?"

[candid sage]

Lmao. It was a high of like, 24f here today

[sand wigeon]

I just cover as much skin as possible on dryer summer days, and make sure to stay in the shadows for the humid ones.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, it's getting a lot warmer already

Which is surprising because it was -20F a few days ago

[candid sage]

Oof

[sand wigeon]

Perhaps nature will deem it cold again and I'll bite my words like the wind

[twilit mountain]

I have to sit in warmth, I gots a condition that makes cold utter hell to be in for me 🫠

[blissful token]

Oof

[narrow token]

My mother has that issue. It's rough.

[sand wigeon]

Yes. Kind of horrifying, too. Watching extremities go from "full of color" to "pale as cobwebs" after like. two minutes outside.

[twilit mountain]

It's even more fun if I stay longer, then my hands turn blue!

[blissful token]

Brok!

[sand wigeon]

Sindri.

[blissful token]

So... tavern talk with the devs

Cant wait to see how ghazzy and darth point out the issues

[narrow token]

I did not make that connection immediately. I thought it was d4 for a second.

[hexed stream]

not sure what kind of condition is that but I hate any temperature below 28 celsius

so maybe I have the same condition

[sand wigeon]

It's quite noticeable. I think you'd know.

[hexed stream]

gamba time, gotta spend that 3mil gold

[shut ferry]

Yo

12th new patch guys

Damn

I have that wings, but red color

[desert jasper]

No
On 12th they're revealing what's coming in the patch next week

[wanton flicker]

look up "Elon Musk plays Path Of Exile 2 online"

LMFAO 🤣

and I thought I was bad at video games

[shut ferry]

TIme to save up currencies for new things

[fierce moth]

I wonder how to get contract with Ghazzy and DarthMicrotransaction or another streamers who can get touch with GGG... I still want to promote my fan art but too many messages the official need to deal daily so it's impossible for doing by myself only

I should write the email as
"Hi xxxxx, I'm a new player of poe 2, here's my fan art as a voxel artist, I hope you enjoy it! Don't forget to share it with GGG if you like that and I wish you the best of luck in the game every day!"
?
That's the most crazy thing I done i guess

[hexed stream]

don't think they will entertain that
their panel session will only be about gameplay
for this kind of thing you should contact dev directly, or thru their twitter

posting on these streamers' twitter channel is another way

[fierce moth]

Yeah messaged a few of them on twitter too

🤔 I don't think GGG will notice that specially without any famous streamer's recommendations because too many threads ping their account everyday

[hexed stream]

btw you want these 2? @fierce moth

[blissful token]

I dont think any of the streamers will link you to GGG. You can see from the forum which labaled Ghazzy and DM as "community streamer" for the Tavern Talk podcast. It is what they do in the community that garnered them exposure and followers.

Posting your arts on platforms like reddit, twitter are the best bet you can get.

[fierce moth]

Ok I contracted 15 streamers. Let's see who will react to my DM or emails or reply at first

[blissful token]

And remaining active

[fierce moth]

No, but thanks for thr reminder that there's a quiver can add more attack speed... Wow it's juicy if double attack speed it own

[blissful token]

It seems more appropriate to me if you email them for a post as their editor

[fierce moth]

yeah no idea on how to write my message to let me not looks like a bot

[blissful token]

Owh, i dont think it is the bot problem.

[fierce moth]

I contracted their support too as you see.
🤷‍♀️ No idea why GGG just keep quiet

[fierce moth]

Yeah their business mailbox is the best way to contract I suppose because everyone want more money 🤭

[blissful token]

Haha good try but i dont think they will reply on an announcement post

[hexed stream]

what do you mean? they have all the reasons to be quiet

they are in the middle of an EA that takes months to polish, so anything not related to EA will not be on their watchlist, and attention, at all

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hx9m5y/i_made_a_recaptcha_for_ggg_devs/
Lmaoooooo

That's my pain too yeah

Comments on this post XDDDDDD

[fierce moth]

Poe 2 have official filter system finally

[hexed stream]

huh? where is this? neversink won't release his filter website until 13 Jan

[fierce moth]

https://poe2filter.com/

oh This website is in no way affeliated with GGG. Alright

[hexed stream]

4 breaches in this stupid map layout

[hexed stream]

no, and it sounds fishy, I will never use a loot filter that is not from neversink

[maiden widget]

nothing fishy about them you can still inspect what they do

[blissful token]

How far are you kirra with your deadeye

[fierce moth]

Zero because i'm not a deadeye yet

[blissful token]

Oh sorry i mean your ranger

I just dealt with balbala before going off yesterday

[fierce moth]

very close to me

[blissful token]

Not sure if i can reach utzaal today

[hexed stream]

with all the account hacking these past weeks, I'm really paranoid now

this is fake dps I assume

[ebon meadow]

Nope can defenetly be legit

Spar DPS is Al over the place close to a million I think

[hexed stream]

coz my 170k dps hexblast blood mage clear map 10 times worse and single target prolly 5 times slower

[fierce moth]

I sure i can't

[vapid junco]

which one of you guys is that

[junior oyster]

I dunno but that screenshot is too freakin bright

[fierce moth]

lol

Your avator is more bright though

😢 No idea why I just can't launch the game

Maybe I need to uninstall and reinstall

emmm the update ruined my game really :(

[ember lake]

Have you tried verifying the game files (if you're playing through Steam) ?

[fierce moth]

Not the fault of EHG... I mean the latest update of poe 2 let me have to reinstall poe 2. I don't know le's case 🫡

[ebon meadow]

It's a steam issue thingy with veryfing files

Also that error says the game is still running somewhere ,rather try finding it in task manager or reboot

But if u on steam yea verify files

[candid sage]

yay 😑

[ember lake]

I'm in the habit (even before I played LE) of always verifying my game files in Steam after every install and patch - too many times Steams had a hiccup, especially on tuesdays, and broke a file

[fierce moth]

The question is I can't play poe 2 on steam, the direct client is the only way

[fierce moth]

They looks ridiculous

[shut ferry]

I have the same issue. so i have to choose epic

This boy pop up in ritual with those 2 first stats, and then i used essence of physical => full slamed ex on him...

[desert jasper]

juicy

[broken harness]

alright

@sweet iris they made melee clunk af once again which in the past made the class super bad to play

[sweet iris]

I don´t think melee was ever that bad in PoE1. Monk is kind of nice but warrior/mace is just plain awful

Also balancing the game completely around dodge rolls with ES being the only defense...

[broken harness]

okay yeah monk is doing well but i mean more traditional melee is in a bad spot

[sweet iris]

Melee has been in a good state for a long time in PoE1 imo even if people complain a lot. Been melee topping HC/HC SSF since Expedition at least. Even before that with gladiator and EQ/bleed

Melee and DD with seismic trap being good for a while

[broken harness]

the fact that they more than doubled ES nodes on the tree while removing HP nodes entirely

[sweet iris]

Even Titan players seem to stack like 8-9k ES now

[broken harness]

okay fair i do not really know what people do in HC

[sweet iris]

You either get Ghostwrithe or Cloak of Flames and ignore armor

[broken harness]

to be fair CI jugg was meta in poe1 long ago

[sweet iris]

Yeah

Molten Strike CI was pretty good

Facetank the whole game

[broken harness]

i find it hilarious how dream fragments is one of the best uniques in the game now because it is the only way to get freeze immunity plus it has a large chunk of mana while the item is the exact same in poe1, i was actually using it for a very long time on my berserker in settlers because i love having complete CC immunity from that plus unwavering stance and then lunaris pantheon because brine king is mid

[broken harness]

i have yet to find either of those but i am a bit frustrated about spirit being hard to scale and there are some uniques with spirit but they are so bad

i am playing summoner infernalist and feel really squishy atm

and with minions often getting stuck and other clunk there are times that mobs just run me over unexpectedly

[desert jasper]

I hate the minions getting stuck like that
I hope they improve their AI

[broken harness]

and player agency has went down the drain with the new atlas

[broken harness]

we had convocation in poe1 but also minions would come to you if you moved a certain distance away, now in 2 they die and have to respawn

it is so damn annoying in trial of chaos with the elevators

[junior oyster]

Elevators in trial is no longer an issue

They fixed that

Now if only they could apply that fix to minions in other places like augury map

[broken harness]

augury 💀

[junior oyster]

That said in trial if you run too far from your minions they still despawn

[broken harness]

well anything that locks your char in place with long animations while in danger is awful

[junior oyster]

But yes they teleport to you in trial on elevator

[broken harness]

the soul cores in trial of chaos locking you in place with the animation while the arena threats are still spawning on top of you ughh

[junior oyster]

Yea

[broken harness]

tbh a lot of those animations could just be sped up

[junior oyster]

I managed to get 2 ruin because of that

[broken harness]

just make them 2-3x as fast same as the stone doors in trial of chaos

it will be okay i think

[junior oyster]

Yeah like make it instant lol

Same with levers in augury

[broken harness]

if the animation is half a second i dont mind

[fierce moth]

@tawny sand
The experience is much much much more smooth...really even I don't do the ascendency yet...

My guessing is;
On defence: Ranger can recover life and mana per enemy is killed plus evasion is better on protecting health when I'm surrounded by enemies, the energy shield at the beginning is no many ways to recharge faster so witch is 100% die if surrounded by enemies. Plus ranger can move faster.

On offence: Ranger have a lightning skill can give enemies debuff (shocking) specially so I can just debuff them when I'm surrounded by enemies to protect myself, the witch have nothing can do that.

I use the same skill build... lightning attack + orb of storm

But maybe relevant to my gears are better a lot in the same duration too... I never had a gear with 6 affixes while I'm playing witch but all gears for my ranger are 6 affixes 🤭

[shut ferry]

\Better with map xD

[visual pulsar]

I was leveling my sorc and the lava boss had some extra mobs from one of those attacking me the whole time bugging out it was pretty hilarious

I still killed him np but they were like buggy and immune the whole time

[fierce moth]

oh it's sorcerss... alright i still remember it as witch

[visual pulsar]

Why does your console poe2 look so grainy

Do they not have a proper upscaler in the options

[desert jasper]

she plays on a laptop

[visual pulsar]

Oh my bad thought it was console

Gotta swap to dlss if possible to make it look better imo

[ebon meadow]

I have landscape transparency like half way up to lol the areas are so big and have a lot of dead ends that it just covers to much of the screen still

And to fix the grain issue for me having full windowed mode fixes the grain

It locks the resolution but it's still performs better in window than full screen

[fierce moth]

I use borderless window for all games... No idea why it looks grainy in your eyes... it's good for me

My habit is zoom in the minimap on the top-right instead of overlay it on the middle so transparency don't do influence so much

[ebon meadow]

It's a discord thing with uploading the images ,discord downscales them a lot

btw Kirra the leveling i m doing on my witch sorc what ever its called now is actually amazing everything getting mostly one tapped exept fr boses and i m still missing one skill

frostbolt with multy proj deleteles things

[visual pulsar]

I think it's just because I use dlss dlaa

Mine looks smoother

Or maybe I'm just used to my screen no idea lol

It's a pretty game that's all I know

With everything turned up

[fierce moth]

🤔 Which resolution your screen is

[visual pulsar]

1080p

[fierce moth]

1920* 1080 only?! Mine is 2560* 1440... Then DlSS helps a lot indeed

[visual pulsar]

my 1440p monitor is broken

otherwise i would be using my 32inch curved 1440p 165hz

Stupid thing burned out already and it's like 3 years old

Well it still works but not for gaming

Any time I exit a game or change resolution it just black screens and I have to power it off for a bit

Too annoying for me

[fierce moth]

I'm not sure can my rtx 3060 (laptop version) can offer dlss or not so i don't use it

[visual pulsar]

It can

Use dlss quality it will be way better than the default one

dlss is on all the nvidia cards 2000 series has a lower version though

we are stuck with version 3.5

[sweet iris]

Just weapon swap or pause and remove and insert gem and they teleport to you again

[visual pulsar]

In the video you posted I can see how it was for me too until I switched to dlss it fixed all that sparkly shit

You will see when you try it

I was very annoyed because my hands looked like garbage with it

[fierce moth]

I mean it's a bit shortage on this area 😅

[ebon meadow]

i dont think u can dedicate anymore thrugh files

poe is not minecraft we cant touch a lot of things xdd

finding a good setting for game is very important people having issues on 3090+ when i m fine on a 1050 lol have no excuse

just for nvidia btw the other one is on u own risk i had issues before

[visual pulsar]

6gb is pretty small now a days but you should be alright

[fierce moth]

yeah the biggest pity

[visual pulsar]

dlss improved my performance and made it look better give it a shot and see if it works out for you too

Tell me I'm pretty

[broken harness]

poe2 chars are so pretty i dont wanna use skins anymore

[visual pulsar]

They really are

I like them better than even diablo 4

Graphically

[narrow token]

I think I still prefer the customizability of d4. The eyes and hair are better, as are the skin textures

[visual pulsar]

Did you ever see the knees it's a disaster

What is even going on with my chars knees

Might be the tats but it looks stupid haha

[ebon meadow]

do look like part of tatoes tbf xdd

[narrow token]

It's 100% the tattoos. Little knobby-knee nellie.

[visual pulsar]

I actually logged in and changed it because I didn't want nipple knees

I like the rest of the tat though

blizzards art team failed me

[blissful token]

Didnt reach utzaal yesterday

Stopped near the end of act 2

[visual pulsar]

The campaign is amazing

can't wait for act 4-6

[exotic wave]

Eh, I wouldn't mind them giving another pass to act 3

Lot of zones that if nothing else could use a size reduction

Also the enemies could use a damage reduction

[visual pulsar]

People keep saying the size reduction I don't even find it that large

Some monsters need a damage tune though

Looking at river hags

That's about it

[viral galleon]

the thing with river hags isn't necessarily their damage, the drowning orb spell they cast slows you if it touches you and if it hovers over you for a few seconds you just die.

[shut ferry]

Damn, Ragnar favors me at last

After 30+ failed

[silent socket]

+4 and spirit corrupted mod damn

[shut ferry]

It's just the +4,.. i added soul core for spirit xD

[silent socket]

oh

[ebon meadow]

thats the spirit xd

and nipple knees made me chuckle a lot thisd morning

[fierce moth]

I kill final boss in act 2 doubles times only before so I still had troubles on that 😆 Always cost too many charges before the 2nd period so sustain is bad.
Ranger and sorcerss lack of insane damage too

[blissful token]

I just reach Dreadnought

i have mana problem with bosses

[visual pulsar]

On sorc?

I had to get a ton of mana regen and just spam spark into orb of storms

Gotta get a mana flask that regens every .25 seconds that helps a bunch too

[blissful token]

nade merc

for some reason my nades dont do dmg

[visual pulsar]

Ahh I see never tried that class yet

It's on my to do list

waiting to see what this huge patch on sunday brings

I'm guessing more classes and end game fixes

[fierce moth]

It's 4:00 in Monday so I don't think I'll watch the stream.
These games always choose US time as the base 🥲

[visual pulsar]

us has the biggest playerbase

my guess

unless you are an asian focused game

[fierce moth]

yeah I'm pity that I'm no ability to move and live in another place

I don't want to stay in current time zone at all

[visual pulsar]

Just don't move to the usa

It's a shithole here

[fierce moth]

Don't worry, USA don't welcome Chinese migrates too

[visual pulsar]

I mean I do but we do have alot of racist assholes here

just all makes me sad tbh

[blissful token]

whew finally killed jamanra

okie act 3

i can take a nap

[ebon meadow]

3 more hours at work and I m free for 17 days

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-4601439

[fierce moth]

You're free!!!!!
I guess you'll immerse in poe 2 17 days then

[ebon meadow]

Yup ,Poe and sleep that the plan lol

[desert jasper]

Finally got my infernalist through the campaign
apparently took 21hours

i'm not a fast player 🐌

and well, the minions aren't that fast at clearing either

[visual pulsar]

took me way longer but I was just going super slow

my minions didn't seem that great till like act 2 or 3 for me too

[ebon meadow]

I still don't understand why convocation wasn't added

Is there at least a recall key ?

[fierce moth]

70h spent on the first character I played and I have to give it up at last

That one even can't complete the campaign

[desert jasper]

lol no

[ebon meadow]

Keep it for maybe a respec when u have a lot of gold in future and need that character leveled

Will save I sometime

[fierce moth]

I need to check out my playtime exactly... A bit troublesome without steam's data

[blissful token]

imma start my act 3 wee

oof cat

[fierce moth]

Ate 250g minced beef and five Chinese chives fried dumplings as today's supper

ooooof show your cat

[blissful token]

is that tts?

[fierce moth]

tts?

[blissful token]

text to speech

i heard it

[fierce moth]

I mean picture

Cats likes sleeping. Let's see how it looks when your cat is sleepy and sleeping

[blissful token]

it moved from the box next to my monitor

lol it moved back in

It is actually a daddy cat

that box was meant for his daughto

[fierce moth]

Let me show my cat then...

[blissful token]

hehe scratch

[fierce moth]

The head of it looks overbig 😂

[blissful token]

yes.. its puffy

[fierce moth]

I'm curious about why your cat can fall asleep in this way... His face just lay on the edge of cardboard box

[junior oyster]

Because... cats

[hexed stream]

Any div today for you guys?

[blissful token]

i be if i can get it in act 3 like i did in my first char

[fierce moth]

of course, in my dream

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hypktn/melee_is_really_hard_but_i_finally_beat_cruel/
yeah this guy deserve a wild divide orb

[blissful token]

just punch doryani with fist at 5aps :v

[shut ferry]

Cute cats

[ebon meadow]

Cat sharing time

[shut ferry]

Can i share my dog...

[blissful token]

doggo!

just cleared silverfist

[ebon meadow]

I like all animals lol go ahead

We had pet Chanel in Zizs discord people had snakes ,spiders ,dragons .. so cool to see different pets

My Yorkie

[fierce moth]

wangwangwang!

[shut ferry]

my two boys

The dog is so old.. he gonna left me soon 😦

[fierce moth]

emmmm sorry the orange one is a dog? 😅 I feel like it's a cat-like dog

[blissful token]

very granpa feel

[fierce moth]

Yeah grandpa-cat-like dog

I don't know it's a cat or dog if you don't tell what you want to share are dogs

[shut ferry]

1 cat, 1 dog 😛

Good thing they are quite friendly to each other, my pug dog protected my cat very well

[fierce moth]

oh then make sense. The cat's tail is unique too

this is a perfect pet combo

[fierce moth]

I'm wonder where its face is

[fierce moth]

both of them is male?

[ebon meadow]

Wait what cat is that

Angor ? Or something

[ebon meadow]

All the pictures I have individually are sleeping belly up my animals are weird

Sons cat look like a Persian but have something else there

[blissful token]

damn chimera keep flying around i wasted all my mana

[ebon meadow]

The act one or map ?

The act one wait till he goes on to pilars destroying it makes it stun for like 10 sec

[blissful token]

all 3 pillars used

problem with merc nade

its freakin mana hungry

[ebon meadow]

Umm are u using multi nade thingy ?

If u close enough to sorc start u can grab some mana nodes because spec have 0 issues on mana

I haven't gotten below 75% even spamming

[blissful token]

i can just play ol' gas nade and pew pew

maybe only explosive nade when he fall from pillar

[ebon meadow]

Is that poison dot ?

[blissful token]

yse

[ebon meadow]

Yea I d use the cloud one with poison even when he is flying he still taking damage

[shut ferry]

Yes maam

Just got a nice wand for stormweaver

[blissful token]

got him

many bosses have fire resistance

kinda sad you have to oil them up abit for fire pen

time for azak and trial chaos

i wanna get my hulking form :>

[shut ferry]

What class you playing

[blissful token]

titan nade merc

[shut ferry]

Wow, i don't see much mersenari

Want to see more off meta build

[exotic wave]

you don't see much mercenary because one of its ascensions is straight up not good (witch hunter)

[hexed stream]

Gemling is popular though

[exotic wave]

yeah but only because there are a couple insane stack stacking builds and Gemling gets doube effect from stats

[blissful token]

was thinking deadeye mainly for the add. projectile

but end up just go back titan

[exotic wave]

THat's... not always a good thing

Extra projectile acts weirdly with certain skills

[blissful token]

oo

i am shooting out 5 nades now

love to have 6 :v

[exotic wave]

yeah grenades is one of the times it's always just best to be deadeye imo

all the good stuff is from large/notables so that leaves out titan

Witch hunter is a joke

[blissful token]

i am just using hulking from from titan as a budget build

[exotic wave]

Awkwardly it makes your build MORE expensive

as you end up even more in need of certain mods

(and a certain base type)

grenades are hyper scaled on +projectiles

(although 1-2 grenade type builds are instead more about CD making chrono an interesting option)

[blissful token]

chrono 🤔

[exotic wave]

Half the chrono tree has some nice CDR related things

[blissful token]

CDR yum

[exotic wave]

and if you're only using like 2 grades (say poison+Explosion) you might be more interested in CDR over extra projectile

[blissful token]

but also need to solve mana issue with nades

[fierce moth]

I wish mana regeneration is the last affix

[fierce moth]

👀 I just start to find where wetland is

[exotic wave]

but yeah Titan's Hulking Form is best on builds that don't need notables

[blissful token]

i think you can only get at most aoe nodes from titan, and/or stun buildup if u fancy flashbang

[exotic wave]

And uh...

Grenade REALLY wants notables

stun buildup is a meme

[blissful token]

:v

[exotic wave]

and/or noobtrap

since stun build up scales with damage, just stack damage lol

[blissful token]

i took those small cdr, atk spd, projectile dmg, aoe nodes

[exotic wave]

anything that isn't 100% converted also stun buildups

[blissful token]

true

[exotic wave]

CDR is a meme too

unless doing a handful of things

and for grenades that means using more than just poison+Explosion grenades

also if you take AOE you should never use flashbang

because it just increases the risk of you blinding yourself

[blissful token]

i left out flashbang long ago

[exotic wave]

since flashbang has friendly fire

[blissful token]

like near the end of act 1

i dont find it useful anymore

[exotic wave]

yeah it's bad

like most phys skills

[blissful token]

i rather drop more poison/explosive nade cuz i have mana issue

[exotic wave]

(in PoE 2 there is no reason to go pure phys over a hybrid/converted skill)

huh, my deadeye doesn't

[blissful token]

titan problem i guess

[exotic wave]

mind you I have an auto generation potion and the node that puts that on my mana pot

so I get charges everye second

[blissful token]

gotta spend a few more travel nodes early, which is really bad and doesnt benefit hulking form

[exotic wave]

yeah

like I said Hulking form is... questionable for grenades

plus the rest of hte tree does jack shit for you

armor is a meme

crushing blows is... something

more max life is something I guess

[blissful token]

can only hope there is some salvaging on Sunday

[exotic wave]

everything else is bad for you

or just change your build and reroll grenades elsewhere

if anything Hulking Form is more likely to be nerfed than the tree made usable for non-slam/stun builds

[blissful token]

bolt build with fresh clip goes brrrrr

[exotic wave]

we'll find out tomorrow I guess what the next patch will bring

fresh clip is trash lol

[blissful token]

dont you just jam atk speed and it ramp up?

[exotic wave]

unless you're just velocity spamming

no

so it's stacking but only in the last 6 seconds

and half the skills shouldn't reload that often

it's also absolutely trash on low-bolt skills

so the # of skills it meaningfully supports is... low

(for instance velocity is actually bad because it's 6% more, same with seige)

[blissful token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pt0VMMWaCc there is this but doesn't apply to me since i am nading

[exotic wave]

(and plasma blast)

(hailstorm rounds it flat out doesn't work with of course)

ice shards is a good skill for it but I imagine ice shards and ice wall are getting hit with the bat soon

[desert jasper]

Why is that?

[exotic wave]

because the main way to use them is very much not intended I'm pretty sure

(IE you shoot/spawn them inside the enemy's hitbox)

(which makes them auto-explode)

makes for good dps, also probably not intended usage

[desert jasper]

I see

[hexed stream]

I wonder if 30div is enough to prepare for new patch

[fierce moth]

I wonder if 0 divide is enough for the new patch

[desert jasper]

Oh man
can't wait for the sauna to be hot enough
it's gonna be so good

[exotic wave]

30 div will not be no

because we're going to know the patch ahead of time

(IE we know the content Sunday, patch will be either Monday, Tuesday or Thursday)

(depending on if they want to do it early or standard patch time)

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101> referral link to some random game..

ty

I wonder how hard ES will get hit

[hardy crane]

I've got 30div and 1000ex, hope im good

Praying for some minion fixes

[hexed stream]

We have a millionaire here lol

[hardy crane]

Hardly lol

I wish

[hexed stream]

I'm half way there, but I guess I'll pick up a 70+ ingenuity along the way coz that belt doesn't seem to get nerfed soon

[desert jasper]

I have some 100exalts
I really should get my cold res fixed, it's at 7
lightning res at -60

[fierce moth]

can you share a bit ex to me

[hexed stream]

I think I dropped some good bow and quiver for you but I won't be able to show it until tomorrow night

How good is your bow now?

[exotic wave]

Minions will be "Fixed" by making them despawn automatically within 10 meters of a door

[desert jasper]

Oh man I'd hate that

[hexed stream]

I wish they integrate convocation into minion

[desert jasper]

Now that would be nice
but at best they'll make a new sceptre base with that

[exotic wave]

Honestly Minions have a ton of new issues

ANd a lot of returning ones

So they'll probably stay in "decent league starter, trash later"

unless we get some absolutely bugnuts insane uniques or ascension

(btw best ascension for them right now is gemling)

[fierce moth]

Bow is fine, I'm thinking which one is better...

100ex for me too since now

[hardy crane]

I will flip all the tables

[exotic wave]

Fine

100 meters

But yeah, no lie, most of us in my guild discord are like "you know what minions need, a permanent version of LE's Abomination at least then they can stop making the ground effects unseeable"

I might also have 20 minions making this more a concern

[desert jasper]

Hmm wonder if the sauna is hot enough already 🤔

[exotic wave]

But hey at least once we get Axe added we should unlcok the full power of Reavers

[desert jasper]

How come?

[exotic wave]

Presumably the other good melee supports will come with it

(also more rage stuff probably)

[desert jasper]

ah, right
tbh i can't wait for druid and shapeshifting

[exotic wave]

Since what can be inferred from the axe circle on the tree is that it's melee (obv), rage focused... and gives onslaughto n kill

But it's also the 75 Strength, 25 Dex weapon so we'll probably get melee splash, multistrike, etc type supports

OR more rage supports

which both will benefit reavers

(with the other supports coming with sword... which will probably drop at the same time)

that said AFAIK no ETA on when Duelist or Marauder will drop

[desert jasper]

can minions gain rage?

[exotic wave]

that's the activated ability of Skeletal Reaver

is that all your Reavers gain rage on hit

[desert jasper]

ah
never used them

ty

[exotic wave]

specifically a version of rage that suppoesdly also ups their AS as well

[fierce moth]

Anyone need these items? I want to sell that as 1d before but no one buy them so I want to sell them in 10e

[exotic wave]

amulets without +skills is bad

[desert jasper]

1d for those? ofc nobody pays that

[exotic wave]

you absolutley won't be getting 1d for it lol

also Elemental damage quarter staff>Has fire

% Increased phys w/ no flat as well

yeah those are hot garbage

[fierce moth]

? tell more

[exotic wave]

(also has leech on it as well for more meme)

So the "best" set up for quarterstaves (not crackling)

is %phys, flat phys and %Elemental damage

because all of them already convert

AND the +flat gets added before it does %phys

(weapons only as they're local, other items give it global)

%Elemental is global as well fwiw

now if anyone actually ran a phys quarterstaff build (and they should)

you'd want flat+%+% phys

Leech as the item itself says only effects phys damage and with how low that phys damage is by the time it's converted you're doing nothing of which to leech on

Stun Draution on an elemental staff is a meme

tl;dr it's bad

Crackling staves are different

as they're already purely elemental (lightning)

[fierce moth]

I never see any amulet I owns have this affix :(

[exotic wave]

so they want flat lightning, %elemental and frankly filler

oh and your quarterstaff is EXTRA trash

because no +Skills (in this case melee)

amulets get every type of skill as a +

so spells, projectiles, minions, etc

[desert jasper]

I saw one with projs today

[exotic wave]

and thus if they don't have it and not unique it's trash at endgame

[desert jasper]

But it had awful stats

[exotic wave]

as levels over 20 scale much harder than those below that

(that said there's also justification for not leveling skills until you get said gear as the cost in mana increase outpaces the increased damage until 20+ for most skills)

now that said for spellcasters who cares

level that shit

you have all the mana in the world anyways

(or you should)

[fierce moth]

👀 ! Thanks for the blessing

[exotic wave]

for reference, amulets can go up to +3 to skills

that said for a level 4, that's amazing

never touch that thing and use it for leveling characters lol

[fierce moth]

Which quiver is better and why?

[exotic wave]

oh and for another neat thing, every skill gets more costly except spirit skills (flat cost of spirit) OR minions (go down as they level)

Oh uh... how

those are... something

PROBABLY the right one

the left does have higher flats and pierce chance

but pierce is sometimes bad

and it trades AS (always good) for Crit (eh)

higher life per enemy killed too

they're both... not great

(quivers can also have +projectile skills btw)

[fierce moth]

ok, use a chaos orb on two-point one, gain 8 life per enemy killed now. Answer is out

[exotic wave]

eh chaos orbs are a trap imo right now

as is crafting in general

probably better to just use those at the currency exchange

to get things like soul cores/breach ring upgraders/etc

[fierce moth]

you can do nothing without enough exalted orbs.
... Damn it for I played a build which 100% depend on how many exalted orbs I own and I spent too much time for improving action skills. My progress just slower than 99.55% players who played ea from the same day

[exotic wave]

lmao you'd hate our group

some of the group have started leaving behind exalts

they're not worth stopping to pick up

mind you most of our group trade in divine+

I spent like 50ex the other day just bricking +4 minion scepters to be usable until I felt like doing the same thing to +5s

[fierce moth]

Exactly. Lots of players are trades in d prices only already...

[sand wigeon]

It’s funny, ‘cause divs are virtually useless from a crafting standpoint. The swap to divs as a currency was also most likely market manipulation employed by one of the big RMT groups, too, which makes it funnier.

[exotic wave]

Yep

Well that and rarer

And the currency exchange

Divines are worth more at the exchange thus they're worht more in general trades

[shut ferry]

Holy fck that quantity

Shame no good drop

[ebon meadow]

21 mods yesus

[exotic wave]

That's just how endgame be

you juice toe the max hoping for one item, it drops, it's just an exalt and you feel sad

[hexed stream]

You need to use app to check price, can't just randomly price items like that

[hexed stream]

Wait, what's with the mod colors?

[shut ferry]

A tool that help me identify whats' good and no good

[fierce moth]

@blissful token I start to stack my death times again

[blissful token]

i just got back to chaos trial and got the tornado bird

doesn't help when i got lightning turrets all around

[fierce moth]

Blackjaw is tricky for both of stormweaver and deadeye

[blissful token]

u're are blackjaw?

👀

thats faz

i am still doing chaos trial

[exotic wave]

Rare should be under "Good" or even "excellent"

as rare modifiers gives item rarity (or was it monster level?) to the one with it

[fierce moth]

I don't do that trial yet

Want to done waterway at least before do that

[blissful token]

wow

i know utzaal is gonna be aids so i wanna get my ascendance points first

[exotic wave]

probably still too early for Chaos trial

but you should be able to destroy Sekema 1

[blissful token]

yea that was done when i was around lv 23

back to boss room again in chaos

[exotic wave]

Chaos Trial truly is "Chaos"

RNG as hell

lots of points of instant failure lol

[blissful token]

this tornado

ouch

just dont give me this bird and i will clear it

[exotic wave]

lol

trial of chaos is aids lol

but unless you're a handful of ascencies it's not really going to help you a ton

just slap on either a chaos resist charm

CI

(CI is near instant win)

or just learn to dodge

she's not THAT bad

[blissful token]

i mean i ran the previous round

just so happened that i rolled into cuz i naded her that way and want her to stay there

and poof she goes into tornado

fun

[fierce moth]

holy god, I'm slain blackjaw when only one more time away from be slain 50 times

[hexed stream]

Actually quant is the most important, followed by rare monsters, then rarity

Rarity is not that important

[exotic wave]

yeah

rarity can be on gear anyways

unlike quant or more rare monsters

and if you're decently far into maps (I think 6 or 7?) you should have rare mobs have 2 mods anyways

which is all you need for your rarity

(well that and gear)

~100 from gear and you're good

same from map tbh

although I got a friend with 500 personal rarity lol

[hexed stream]

The soft cap is 150

[blissful token]

Pepega

[hexed stream]

Rarity formula: gear x (atlas+waystone mod x explicit multiplier)

[exotic wave]

mm

friend just made an extreme aura bot build

and since he didn't stats (since all he does is sit around with a good scepter and temp chain+enfeeble auras) he just loaded up on rarity

his enfeeble has hit >100% on whites and blues too lol

[shut ferry]

pointless, there is experimentals that prove we only need ~150% iir

[hexed stream]

I think the debuff aura getting above 100% will get nerfed next patch as well

[exotic wave]

sure but there's literally nothing else for him to do

since he's a blaspehmy bot

[hexed stream]

More tankiness or movement speed

[fierce moth]

Just met the most difficult rare enemy to kill... it recover energy shield consistently

[exotic wave]

with his items being focused around presence stuff

he already HAS enough

he literally can't do damage

(I mean he can but it's not worth the loss of mana since he has MoM)

[hexed stream]

Never enough movement speed in this game though

[exotic wave]

...his temp chains is over 100% too lol

enfeeble means non-rares/bosses can't hurt him

[shut ferry]

Damn i love this game

So many idea to builds

[exotic wave]

and temp chains means they pretty much can't move either

(and actually can't move in single player)

[shut ferry]

Spectres coming in next launch maybe

[exotic wave]

he also has the kill-steal gloves as well

so all he has to do is camp next to us

well "next to"

[hexed stream]

Tell him to drop rarity and invest in movement speed

[exotic wave]

his presence range is an entire sscreen and then some

...why?

he already has 40% lol

that's more than any of us have

[hexed stream]

Smoother gameplay experience

[exotic wave]

what gameplay?

he literally stands there lol

his only job is to stand near enemies

[hexed stream]

Why does he stand there? He needs to follow you

[shut ferry]

But it must be boring

to be an aurabot

[exotic wave]

Eh, some people enjoy the support lifestyle

he's got marks for bosses and such

but yeah

[hexed stream]

Yeah but with only 40ms, he won't be able to support me doing map, maybe boss

[shut ferry]

Then what would he do when his teammies are offline i wonder

[exotic wave]

he just respecs to another build

he's got adorned and on a gemling

respeccing isn't even much effort for him

[hexed stream]

He rich?

[exotic wave]

lol we all are

[shut ferry]

gemling = already rich

[exotic wave]

I'm running Piller, Astra, Hands, the 4 socket chest

(his dps with similar is like 1mil lol)

He farms pinnacle bosses at this point

when he's solo

[hexed stream]

True lol, I finished campaign with my gemling on a 15d budget

[exotic wave]

(I think it's 1.2mil now)

but yeah, our builds run 100+ div

[hexed stream]

Mine is not yet 100d, maybe 30

[shut ferry]

I envy you, i spend ~170 divs to min max my minion build. but lower performance than other class much

[exotic wave]

lol

so hat happened is we found the best crossbow at hte time on like... day 3?

I think it was well over 500phys DPS

we sold it and bankrolled ourselves into absurdity

before prices balooned

But yeah we figure most of our builds are going to get nerfed

[hexed stream]

My div spending are all over the place, the demon form like 20d, blood mage idk maybe somewhere between 30-60d coz some jewels have really inflated prices, then the current gemling

[exotic wave]

It's kind of annoying actually we keep making builds and then streamers do it like a week later

and we're like :/

since that makes all our prices shoot up

my summoner is like 50 div

but it's all selfound/corrupted

Running +12 to all levels

[hexed stream]

My biggest regret is I could have bought temporalis for 7d, then I thought price would tank further, so I didn't buy, now it's back to 70d

[exotic wave]

temporalis is getting hit lol

if not outright deleted

same with Adorned

both are EXTREMELY problematic

[hexed stream]

Yeah but the div I could have made from it would stay

Adorned already fixed

[exotic wave]

it's still too good lol

they either need to hit all jewels (probably fair) or adorned

[shut ferry]

I'm happy that i don't follow the trend lol

[hexed stream]

It's the same as poe1 now, so not that good

Jewels are the problem, not adorned

[exotic wave]

i'm going to guess they'd hit adorned first

[hexed stream]

They already hit it

[exotic wave]

they'll do it again

[hexed stream]

No they won't

[exotic wave]

(I know it was 150% at one point and that was... stupid)

24 jewel adorned is the best build atm

regardless of what it does it's teh best at it

[hexed stream]

Adorned was only broken coz it worked additively with small passive effect

[exotic wave]

outside of maybe minionmancer

since jewels for minions are eh

compared to notables anyways

[hexed stream]

Notables are underwhelming in poe2

[exotic wave]

not for minions lol

minions have some stupid ones

and some near-required

[hexed stream]

I don't play much minion so idk, but the rest feel underwhelming

Except ES nodes

[exotic wave]

minions have things like reduced reservation %Max HP as bonuse ES, tons of %Max resist and %HP regen

oh and %Extra damage

[hexed stream]

Also, MoM may get nerfed, as many suggested

[exotic wave]

They're less attractive I guess to Command:ice bomb or Command:DD builds

but for minion builds they're amazing

[shut ferry]

Have you seen this damage mate

[hexed stream]

Anyway, we'll see the detail in the upcoming stream, no need to guess

[exotic wave]

baby numbers

come back at 6 digits

[hexed stream]

That's the same as my sheet dps foe tempest flurry

[exotic wave]

and screen wide

really?

my Tempest Flurry is 300k

on first hit even

500k on last

[hexed stream]

Yeah, but I tried on a boss and it's hitting like min 500k dps

So sheet dps I don't trust

[shut ferry]

How bout now

[exotic wave]

approaching acceptable

otoh 6 link

I'm pulling those numbers on 4 link lol

refused to waste jewelers knowing it's 100% getting nerfed

[shut ferry]

Which minion you use

[exotic wave]

I'm not

using Hand build

[hexed stream]

Also got to do with me not having ingenuity and astramentis

[exotic wave]

Hand+Pillar+Astra

That'd do it lol

[shut ferry]

But...mine is x25....

[exotic wave]

After I got Astra I respeced hard into defenses and it's STILL 300k first hit

nah

poison stacks once

(twice with the support)

[hexed stream]

Astra is a dream to me, 140+ div now

[exotic wave]

now the explosion is different but that's not what you were showing

oh wait that's basic attack

neat I guess

but if you wanted to do basic attack fun times

it's near impossible to beat reavers

(super rage is an absurd buff)

(30% More AS and Damage)

sadly we still lack most of the melee support gems to make them insane

[hexed stream]

I still don't know how to transition my gemling to MoM CI, but I guess that will cost astronomically

[exotic wave]

But we have just enough support to make them decent

Not really

Just get +mana on everything

and fast track up there

it's justn ot as good as Sorc MoM CI

[hexed stream]

I got 3k mana, but my ES is shit

[exotic wave]

because no permanent supercharged mana regen

3k mana is shit lol

you need EB

mind you it's stupidly expensive

but only because everyone is running it

not becuase like the gear req is insane

[hexed stream]

No EB, the streamer I follow guide, her mana is 4k and ES is 3k6, no EB

[exotic wave]

she's stupid then

EB not only is near some of the best scaling nodes

With MoM there's no reason to NOT have EB

Mana IS your defense

you don't take CI because your ES is good enough you take CI becuase you don't take non-mana damage

[hexed stream]

I won't call her stupid, she's one of the best build makers in poe1, same level of ds lily and tuna

[exotic wave]

she's 100% stupid

right now

as is

there is no reason to ever not have EB

with MoM

[hexed stream]

Not if you don't have reliable mana regen like in the case of gemling

She has a point

[exotic wave]

Then you shouldn't be MoM

like...

it's not HARD to get tons of Mana Regen

[shut ferry]

i'm a MOMer here

[hexed stream]

It's just 1 extra passive point

[exotic wave]

but if you don't have Mana Regen don't take MoM

[shut ferry]

Is this enough for MOM

[exotic wave]

Early game? yeah

late game your mana should be 7k+

the other numbers could be higher too

[shut ferry]

Don't think i could, i reached max mana of the gears i can get

[exotic wave]

but again I don't know class/ascend, nor level

EB should be giving around 3k+ as well

if not 5k+

(depending on gear quality)

[hexed stream]

Can I see your planner vs hers? All I know is that she already sank at least 1 mirror into her gemling

[exotic wave]

I don't have mine saved

[shut ferry]

That's alot of mana i can get from gears

[exotic wave]

Also I don't bother with making my MoM character gemling

but if I did it'd just be standard

loop up to MoM/EB grab the mana>damage and then int>Lightning damage stuff

and then just stack mana restoration

(and what mana you can grab on the tree)

[hexed stream]

But what she said makes sense, that you don't want your main defense layer to be something you consume insanely fast

[exotic wave]

honestly the gemling portion would be mostly irrelevant

THEN JUST BE A STORMWEAVER

[hexed stream]

That's why she has MoM but no EB

[hardy crane]

if you're consuming your mana to the point of depletion, you dont have nearly enough regen

[exotic wave]

^

Arcane Surge

get it

[hardy crane]

I can hold down and spam a fully linked lvl 20 Spark and my mana doesnt move

[hexed stream]

It's just a thing with howa

[exotic wave]

again

[hardy crane]

ima aware 🙂

[exotic wave]

if you're having Mana problems

you should rethink your build

or not go MoM

[hexed stream]

She has no problem, I have

Coz I don't have astra

[exotic wave]

lmao

astra makes your mana problems WORSE not better

astra literally doubled my attack speed and thus my mana consumation

it sure didn't double my mana regen

[hexed stream]

? 120 extra int is 240 extra flat mana

[exotic wave]

also EHG: never let us get unter .08 AS thanks?

I uh... things begin to not... work at super low AS

[sweet mural]

Hello!
I'm new here so don't know if this is the right place to ask this question
Is there a dedicated channel for finding a group to play with? I wanted to play co-op but don't know where to go

[exotic wave]

I used to use Flicker Strike for fun

[hardy crane]

I think I am up to like 1200 mana per sec in a heavily DPS focused setup

[exotic wave]

250% of .08 attack was a mistake

[hardy crane]

if I go tanky I can get over 2000

[exotic wave]

I get actaul motion blur sick watching me flicker strike

[hexed stream]

What's your dex? I cap it at 400 and whenever overcapped, I move it to int

[exotic wave]

I think about the same?

SImply because I needed to nerf my AS

[hardy crane]

also just FYI - people can have takes and opinions on builds, mechanics, etc in ARPGs - that can be varying levels of right/wrong - but lets not call people stupid

plz and ty 🙂

[exotic wave]

In this case it's kind of hard not to, For WHATEVER reason EB lets you still have ES

so the downside of EB+MoM is negated

and the upside is "I now have 6k+ mana"

8k+ if you have decnet gear

10k+ with BiS stuff

[hexed stream]

There's not much difference between 6k mana MoM EB and 3k mana MoM 3k ES, in fact I can argue that grim feast makes the latter better

Also, arcane surge doesn't work with attack skills I believe

[candid sage]

#👥┃lfg

[exotic wave]

AGain, EB doesn't prevent ES

it just converts your base ES over to Mana

[sweet mural]

Thank you so much!

[hardy crane]

ya my tank build uses EB + MoM + CI - and I have 5000+ ES

it does not prevent ES at all

[hexed stream]

It does unless you use everlasting gaze

[exotic wave]

...then why don't you?

[hexed stream]

Astra?

[exotic wave]

so being real?

[hardy crane]

I dont for my DPS setup

[exotic wave]

Astra is unncessairy

[hexed stream]

It is, for gemling

[exotic wave]

I was <300k beforehand

[hardy crane]

use this instead

[exotic wave]

now I'm at 300k AND an absurd amount of bulk

Oh and I speced into all the stat scalers and the % stats because I'm memeing rather than trying real builds at this point

that character is done I pull them out when I want to screw around

[hexed stream]

Isn't that real build? You want all the possible %atrribute

[exotic wave]

nah

it's actually pretty inefficient

especially for MoM stackers

[hexed stream]

Sure it has diminishing return, but gemling makes it not as bad

[exotic wave]

as the strength one guts your mana bar

36% reduced IIRC

maybe more?

I also have the accuracy>AS node

because I wanted to see the game at .05

this was a mistake and don't go that low

(but I was like "well I have 7k accuracy I might as well...")

[hexed stream]

Wait, you have mana problem even in density?

[exotic wave]

Bro, I'm attacking every .05 seconds

even at "low" attackspeed that's .08 seconds

yes I have mana problems

The only way I couldn't is with instant mana leech

there's a reason I don't have MoM

[hexed stream]

That's strange, mine is a bit worse, 0.07, but I have zero mana issue in density

The only issue is against boss

Like pinnacle boss

[exotic wave]

I'm attacking around 25% faster than you

that's 25% faster mana drain

[hexed stream]

Yeah, but I don't rely on mana regen, but mana on kill

[exotic wave]

and I have no good source of mana on hit

and the only mana on kill I can get is jewels

(also I usually run it with my MF Aura friend who gets all kills because of gloves)

(so on-kill doesn't work in those cases)

That said at might numbers I could probably swap out to a yellow staff with near no cost

but then I'd lose AS and that's no good

assuming that the build goes untouched

I'll probably swap them over to full AS build just to see how low it can go

[hexed stream]

Hmm, I have to check her videos again, but no point comparing, coz her investment is 10x mine

[exotic wave]

and see how the animation changes lol

but yeah Astra is 100% luxury

[shut ferry]

Damn

[exotic wave]

and not actually needed

[hexed stream]

It's always chase item, surely not needed, I already destroy breach easily

[exotic wave]

lol I can do that with just gloves

that's why they're 100% getting nerfed sooner or later

gloves+white level 1 staff does it

[hexed stream]

Too much flat damage

[exotic wave]

yeeeep

[hexed stream]

The AS is ok, coz it's balanced by mana cost anyway

[exotic wave]

and the fact that there are two % scalers

both int and strength

(while dex scales all your AS)

I'm really interested to see if they'll buff armor

because like armor is hot trash right now

and armor/evasion is not great

(and has 0 support outside the tree)

[hexed stream]

Some people expect the damage of howa to be nerfed by half

[exotic wave]

I wouldn't be surprised

[hexed stream]

And it's still powerful af

Even after the nerf

[exotic wave]

well I mean yeah

it can be pushed into the millions

so even if it's nerfed by half it'd still be an absurd number

this game is NOT designed around >100k dps

[hexed stream]

And also gotta do with the fact that it's a relatively cheap item

[exotic wave]

frankly they'd be best served gutting player damage and drastically reducing enemy damage

*most player damage

pats physical builds on the top of their head

most of you are fine

[hexed stream]

Power crunch like d4 did to s6 (except the introduction of spiritborn lol)

[exotic wave]

Nah

we're talking like 75% or more

damage is wildly out of control across the board

[hexed stream]

You just described power crunch

[exotic wave]

sure but crunch undersells what I meant lol

that said they'll never do it

[hexed stream]

Why? D4 crunched it like 10 times

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because PoE 1 fans will never stand by that level of power reduction

did they also leave defenses at the same value?

without nerfing those?

(well ES/MoM needs nerfing but that's a whole other problem)

(Evasion/Life/Armor are all fine, same with block)

[fierce moth]

perfect amulet... so cool

[hexed stream]

What they did was to make number smaller across the board (barring everything with the new class)

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RIP that % armor roll on it Kirra

yeah see I'm only talking damage reduction

not reducing defenses at all

[hexed stream]

Nah who knows next patch the price may go up

[exotic wave]

(outside of ES/MoM)

(but that's only because 20k actual health is insane let alone effective health)

[hexed stream]

Grim feast should have never been a thing

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Grim Feast, Meditation, MoM with no penalty, EB with a slap on the wrist penalty, CI making you immune to like 50% of the game, double dipping hyper scaling with Mana>Damage and then Int>(Lightning) Damage both with no downside

(AS at least has the downside of you needing to be able to support the increased frequency and the strenght one comes with reduced mana straight up)

[hexed stream]

Don't think there's any problem with CI, it's still the same CI we know in poe1