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hexed stream
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how many div you have now?

fierce moth
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I'm pretty poor

hexed stream
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yeah, then the 30ex is the only option

fierce moth
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Waiting the new owner of my old wand now

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I purchased the letter at last because the Korean is afk ๐Ÿคญ 43e in my stash only after got that wand

fierce moth
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59% rarity item chance, that're all loots from an rare enemy.
5 days don't see any divide orbs already.
I start to hate this game give me nothing even I spent lots of time on mapping.

hexed stream
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coz you expect raw div drop, that's why you're disappointed
most div are from trading, not from dropping

fierce moth
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I can find a divide orb in a tier 2 map but I can't find one even it's tier 9 under more rarity item chance

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Maps don't give any rare items or unique items worth 1d too

hexed stream
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what map tier are you doing?

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just saying, 10 days in low tier maps are still not as good as 1h in t15 maps

fierce moth
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Facepalm But you must spent 10 days in low tier maps because it's the condition for you to gain more altas points

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No big income, just big cost

hexed stream
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took me half a day

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if you can comfortably clear maps that are higher than the map quest requirement, do it

fierce moth
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The biggest confusion for me is how are they go so fast without any build issues or currency issues Facepalm

hexed stream
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idk, spark weaver supposed to be a strong build, like really strong in mapping

hexed stream
fierce moth
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Action skills issue -> currency issue -> build issue -> currency issue -> build issue -> currency issue...

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Maybe the luck from this character is run out after 3rd divide orb

blissful token
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kirra in t9?

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i am still in t4

hexed stream
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many deaths?

fierce moth
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determine will enemies spawn on a odd position. My experience bar is go backward and close to 1% because of a few deaths

hexed stream
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then forget about atlas progression, do the maps that you can clear easily without dying

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dying = no profit = no map sustain

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I have to check what's in the 1 divine guide I sent you, coz you seem to have half of that and still have problem

hexed stream
junior oyster
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She has 0 ES

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I'm guessing she went MoM

hexed stream
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lol, does archmage even go MoM? that's suicide

tawny sand
fierce moth
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yeah I'm died immediately if my mana go to 0

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elemental resistances more than 75%, chaos resistance is 18%, no es, all damage go to cost mana instead of life

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Surivive isn't a big issue anymore after get 4 ascendency points + buy a new wand, just bad luck on drops

hexed stream
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then you try to go as high as possible, on the tier you can comfortably clear, then every map must be min 3 mods, on a map affected by a lost tower with a tablet activated

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I can give you a free 3rd trial tomorrow when I'm free

fierce moth
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First time to hear this skill...

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๐Ÿค” It require dexterity, oh... hhhhhh it'll the new problem. I just stack intelligence, even strength is more than dexterity hhh

junior oyster
fierce moth
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Let's see how much dexterity I have lol

candid sage
hexed stream
junior oyster
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Yea she meant 4th trial

fierce moth
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yeah so "after get 4 ascendency points"

hexed stream
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by ziz himself

junior oyster
hexed stream
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interesting that ziz doesn't take EB
but I guess cold conversion is much safer to play

fierce moth
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Find that, 178 dexterity required xdddd

hexed stream
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follow the guide I just sent you, it's cheap and safer than the other guide

junior oyster
fierce moth
junior oyster
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Use a level 7 uncut gem and make that gem

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You will need less dex for that skill

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Might still need to respec some int stats though

hexed stream
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do high end spark players use that skill?

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shit, I realize ziz spark build is really great, he's farming t15 easily with that setup

fierce moth
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And this is the 5th version lol (plus minimap's and fane's)

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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
It prove different people have different choices on the same thing

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Blink... Holy god, I find a teleport skill in poe 2 finally

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... Only amulets can add spirits if my character don't use a sceptre?

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The max spirit I can get from a solar amulet which on market is 54 only... I need 60 to run blink... sigh

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Or give up 34% lightning and cold resistance + 29 intelligence to exchange 100 spirit from body armour

fierce moth
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chests? Charms? No charms add spirit

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I'm jealous for infernalist be free on spirit now

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Spirit from sceptre + this node

hexed stream
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You're playing and gearing all over the place I guess, this is very bad for map progression

fierce moth
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I quit the map after cleared all rare enemies. it's waste my time to keep exploring

hexed stream
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Not that, I'm talking about gearing and skill choice

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I'll give you some t15 maps tomorrow, see if you can clear it without dying

fierce moth
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I'm excited to test how solid my build is too

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You don't need to attack, let me do everything so we can check out together

shut ferry
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Finally...

fierce moth
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Come on, get that! 800+ exalted orbs come in your wallet then

hexed stream
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among breach, ritual, deli, expedition, sanctum, ultimatum, what are the currently most profitable content? I assume breach because of the current rarity right?

candid sage
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breach is nuts compared to the rest. though a really good drop sanctum run is also pretty good, just a lot longer

hexed stream
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I saw people running t4 sanctum with zero honour res, that's crazy, but then I figure out it's another tech, called zero cost merchant sanctum run

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which will get you max honour res from merchant, along with so many other boons, you basically buy every single thing merchant has to offer

shut ferry
shut ferry
azure cairn
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hey guys, how to get 5 stacks of HoT? Mine is just 3

blissful token
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I can do ritual now after getting aoe nodes, fixing resistances, and slotting in stampede

But feel kinda sad that there is a lack of build diversity. Have to go the typical herald of ash, armor explosion setup.

Pretty much what majority of warriors have to use for endgame clearing FrightenedGroleWrongDirection. Everyone playing the same thing

shut ferry
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@fierce moth Do you see how much benefit of rituals

hexed stream
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it's high investment though, you need several div to max out ritual atlas first before thinking about farming it

shut ferry
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Min 8 divs to get 8 atlas points

fierce moth
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? wait... these encounter passive branches just needs altas points to spec?

shut ferry
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Yes, and each of encounter cost 7 divs

fierce moth
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7d to buy a ticket?

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Not sure what divs mean here

shut ferry
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Ye, ticket = an audience with the king

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But if you lucky enough, you will get a belt drop and can sell for 25+

fierce moth
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Then I guess this belt only dropped from the pinnacle boss of ritual

shut ferry
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It does

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Sometime ritual provides Headhunter

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But at extremely low rate

fierce moth
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ I can gain the modifier from rare enemy I just killed by 20s, daman good

shut ferry
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Yes ser

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The most valuable item in Poe1

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But it's golden time has gone

fierce moth
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I want to drain their mana as like as they drain my mana by that damn blue circle

shut ferry
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Oh man, i just got 1 more audience with king of the mist

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Never seen 20 divs in ritual rewards

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Damn

fierce moth
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.......Hold damn, that enemy who shoot fire ray follow me all the time and i can't avoid it

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back to 0% again

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That'll very challenging ๐Ÿคญ

blissful token
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Sounds like those corrupted beyond demons that spawned in corrupted map

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Kirra go so faz.. hopefully i can reach t6 today

fierce moth
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Ok done. I use maps gifted by @shut ferry to test my build solid enough or not only. I'm stay in tier 9 only.

shut ferry
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It is a juicy map..

hexed stream
fierce moth
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Facepalm blooming field is so hard because these dense poison and fire attacks from bugs

hexed stream
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I'll give you 3-4 maps later when I'm done, those maps I give coz it bricks my build

fierce moth
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oh so you will not do mapping with me :(

hexed stream
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nah, you have to test it out if your build can handle it, otherwise need to move back to safe tiers

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daily dose of income

azure cairn
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should I get 600pdps over this? Am playing Icestrike monk

fierce moth
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Facepalm ...Make a silly miatake on the boss combat when it's the last duration

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But I find the difference between tier 9 and tier 15 is
tier 9: You even can't fill your inventory by gems, runes, currencies and rare items after you're done the map
tier 15: You have to go back to hideout to throw loots in your inventory before the map is done

hexed stream
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t15 you have to change loot filter, that's a more accurate word
I have to use cdr strict loot filter on t15

shut ferry
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...... i'm enough KPI of today...

fierce moth
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KPI hhhhhhhh
I don't reach the level of I have some KPI to do yet

shut ferry
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Do you want to run some with me

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I will gift you some excited delirium map

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It's background music is so good,

fierce moth
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I guess you can do some business by helping people to pass pinnacle bosses now and get rich by that too
๐Ÿ‘ŒI visit your hideout after I come back. Went outside.

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Earn exalted orbs is super easy after someone can kill pinnacle bosses easily and they have some reputation because of good knowledge and good skills in ARPG cycle

shut ferry
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Yup, one round of ritual service of mine i charge them 2 divs / boss encounter

fierce moth
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They can earn 35e per min and I guess it's very low already

shut ferry
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Btw i got this for you later to try, you can modify whatever you like

fierce moth
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35e for killing the branch boss

shut ferry
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35e is expensive

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breach is like 20-25

fierce moth
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I feel the whole game is designed for these businesses... High difficulty, high risk and high income

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All shortness I met in the process can convert to the potential for incoming

shut ferry
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@fierce moth you ok with these mods ?

junior oyster
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In ssf mirrors are practically worthless ๐Ÿ˜‚

fierce moth
hexed stream
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I think poe2db is wrong, I bought +2 amulet and my dps in town increases from 2500 to 3500 which is 40%, but poe2db shows that increase skill level from 26 to 28 is only 25%

fierce moth
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I guess minimap will like spicy strips (one of snacks made by flours) like that

hexed stream
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๐Ÿ˜

fierce moth
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I tried that for the first time while I'm 10 years old

fierce moth
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Done my 2nd matcha ice cream (yeah I go to the shop what I purchased that last time)
Start to go back home

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It's as like as my spirit potion ๐Ÿคฃ

hexed stream
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๐Ÿคค

ebon meadow
hexed stream
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maybe I should remove all support gems and test it again

ebon meadow
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U probably have to remove the passive tree ,it's probably correct gem levels do scale 25% on their own then rest makes the 40%

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Just makes me thing how powerful gem levels are lol only 15 from gear ,passive tree and rest

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This is a spell level of scaling but I think it works for every skill

hexed stream
ebon meadow
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No no I don't mean +1on tree I mean like Increases to damage the sums to a skill

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The flat damage on weapons and jewellery to

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Gains if u have any

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Also heard from Zizs stream some hacking shenanigans going on in game and people are worrying that is to do with trading

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I doubt it it has anything to do with actual in game interaction but do watch out

hexed stream
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yeah lol, the hack is scary

ebon meadow
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I don't trade and I m to poor in game anyway omegalul they probably put more stuff in my stash that take it

hexed stream
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man I just want to make blood mage work so bad

fierce moth
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๐Ÿค” Ok, the basic frame is done, it looks cool

ember lake
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More Kirra voxel art? ๐Ÿ‘€

fierce moth
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There's a map call Aggorat in poe 2 and i want to reveal that by voxel as the first fan art for poe 2, to let GGG know my voxel arts.

ember lake
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That's a great idea! Your art is amazing ๐Ÿ˜

fierce moth
visual pulsar
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I really love the art direction in poe2

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Looks fantastic

fierce moth
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๐Ÿค” Too many natural landscapes though, I want to see more artificial architectures in a map like aggorat

fierce moth
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Which skill here can help flame wall to create three circles?

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I only can create a circle

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Facepalm Be slain twice times because surrounded by enemies and I'm stuck or I'm stunned so i can't move

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Then lose double t15 maps wich include increasing item rarity...

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Me: @$%@&...

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I guess Judd had bothered with this issue (Be slain by a pack of mods on a corner or a branch) too so this case never happen in le

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No idea why level designers in GGG prefer to edit these paths super narrow ๐Ÿ˜ก

torn zinc
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This character's story is as follows!
the story, Madoka meets with her master, the Archon, and kneels before her while the Archon towers above her and reassures her that everything she does is for her own sake

Madoka wears her usual attire like in the anime while the Archon is adorned in the same appearance as Edea Kramer from FFVII, red beak mask included
I hope you all like It and Give me your Honest feedback ๐Ÿซถ

viral galleon
shut ferry
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@fierce moth don't forget this moment

fierce moth
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๐Ÿค”

shut ferry
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Realm gate

fierce moth
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ohhhhhh

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I see now

fierce moth
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How to add the enchant for a map (light-blue part)?

ebon meadow
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What level u guys finished the campaign more or less ? Trying to figure if I m underperforming on the build or the overlevel is actually ok lol

ebon meadow
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They are tiers of mods

fierce moth
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No concept for that...I'm focus on gears completely

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Mine don't have that

ebon meadow
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That's implรญcits and explรญcits not enchant

fierce moth
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I guess there's a material or currency can do this thing

ebon meadow
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The light blue is a set modifier that can only be rerolled not modified

fierce moth
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How to reroll if I even don't have that XD

ebon meadow
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Amm Poe1 something like Kirac or they drop specifically with those mods like delirium or blight maps

shut ferry
fierce moth
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I hope ggg can release a map stash quickly... My stash is a chaos now

ebon meadow
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I m guessing they just drop like that

shut ferry
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You can add distilled guilt on

fierce moth
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I want to purchase more stash tabs but no sale yet

ebon meadow
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Sale I think rather this weekend or the next one

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It's every 2 weeks

fierce moth
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let me figure out what's distilled... it's familiar

ebon meadow
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There's always a "but" they might not do that for EA with that excuse

fierce moth
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oh I see, fragments dropped from delirium only

shut ferry
shut ferry
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Save your mats, whenever you need delirium maps i can gift you

ebon meadow
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I think there's a bug with deli to not sure to remember what it is

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Fog not finishing when the mechanic is maybe

fierce moth
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wow it's juicy. Ok

ebon meadow
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Ohh lul it's anointing actual maps

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U know after playing the Poe1 for years having this cluster F of squished mechanics is so weird

fierce moth
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I want to reforge these maps after I'm flooded by maps to reduce the amount and reroll modifiers ๐Ÿ˜…

shut ferry
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I like it so much the flute tone

fierce moth
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But reforge will cause me lose these enchants i guess

shut ferry
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Ya

ebon meadow
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More maps u can do faster more loot u get no such things as to many maps

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That's why 3 to 1 maps in Poe1 was never a thing

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Literally better to run them white than ventoring them 3 to 1

shut ferry
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I agree

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3to1 is after you flooded of 13 14

junior oyster
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Had this on me because of putting in soul cores lol

fierce moth
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yeah I want to get more t13/t14 maps so I managed them for a while. Ok t13/t14 maps in stash are enchanted, maps in inventory are normal.
Feel comfortable now

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Normal essences are no sense at all... but I don't know how to get greater essences

candid sage
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greater essences are stupid levels of rare. not many people find them, even when specced into essence

ebon meadow
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Yet again I don't know if the feature carried over but u can upgrade lowers to next tier 3 to 1 in frag stash tab don't know of u can do it outside of it ,and I see I m out of range of public internet so idk if anyone answered omegalul getting some Pekin duck today haven't had duck for ages or rabbit

ebon meadow
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i still have a ptsd for mages in LE when they comeout lol

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they were hitting hard

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random fact i m calling act 2 boss Julrah from now on lol i dont know why but that freaking boss reminds me so much about it

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maybe its the phase ofg the fight but holy it has some dumb unavoidable mechanics there

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and people ask why mele is bad lol

fierce moth
ebon meadow
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theres many recipies that are similar just not sure how many carried over

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essence , gems with amulet etc etc

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maps , trinkets .Its been 13 years of things that just added up to that ventor recipe

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a fact theres couple of recipies in poe1 that are still uknown to player base

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after such a long time

ebon meadow
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well this is a bait xdd

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fine could of done with es or some res though

candid sage
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light radius mod ruins another item

ebon meadow
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gotta see more during daylight YEP groleshades

hexed stream
rose viper
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lmao

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look at this shit

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exalt orb OP

hexed stream
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damn, this is 50d if not more

rose viper
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you mean 500 kekw

candid sage
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Thats dumb

hexed stream
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lol 9mod map

hexed stream
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in breach, do people make money by more clasp hands = breachstone, or by more breaches + slower open/close?

rose viper
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almost everyone do it like this

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open/close faster node is better for bad maps

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ie augury/sulphuric cavern

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open/close slower is better if you're struggling

hexed stream
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yeah, change to this and notice high increase in profit

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but easier to die if you have stupid mod like 2 extra proj

fierce moth
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๐Ÿ‘€ how many divide orbs you get by this amulet

rose viper
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self use for now

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keeping it at least after the patch drops

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value of rarity prefix and mana regen suffix can drastically change depends on the patch

hexed stream
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can't wait for the patch, accumulate div for any change

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I hope to get 30 div by the time patch hits

rose viper
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with how many case of hacks and item duping going on rn, i think halting any valuable trade is the safe way to do it

fierce moth
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Facepalm I don't know why my SSD have issues so frequently

hexed stream
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you grind too much gears, so you grind the ssd's gears as well omegalul

blissful token
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nub, did you use a shield?

fierce moth
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Your asked the same question I asked before but the people I asked is Byte

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But titan is a strength character so you don't have strength issue

blissful token
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Prob is... armour sucks and it is counter-intuitive to equip a shield for armour. I think it is pretty mandatory to a hold shield for higher tier maps for its block cuz mace skills all are slow asf

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I just died to a 4/4 ritual yesterday because it is cramped and stampede doesnt last out the dmg immediately for me leech

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No ignore collision on stampede also mean u run in place and gets chip damaged by everything else

desert jasper
blissful token
desert jasper
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Yup

blissful token
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How far did you go?

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T15?

desert jasper
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I stopped playing the warrior at like t3 lol
Because it just wasn't feeling good anymore

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And i didn't feel like buying all the gear upgrades i needed to go from lvling stuff to working end game gear

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There's a reason i told you that you don't need to ask about everything from me quite a while ago ๐Ÿ˜›

blissful token
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Idk if i wanna push further, dying to a rare t5 ritual yesterday got me disheartened

blissful token
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GGG seems to be working again but got alot of backlash

desert jasper
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I think they'll need to work on melee.
current situation makes me worried for the druid and shape shifting

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Oh yea. they absolutely did. leaving the game in this state for.. what, 3 weeks?

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or 2 and half

blissful token
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They implemented a hotfix to prevent instant creation in sanctum

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For peepo abusing it for temporalist or whatever it is called

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But peepo still found a way to do it

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At ardura caravan

desert jasper
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Sigh
ofc

exotic wave
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Mace (melee) won't be fixed until we get armored fixed which may be never

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Just accept that it at most will ever only be used for Hammer as an off-weapon

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...in like 3+ months when we get Duelist

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and thus Swords+axes

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(Also Axes when, the tree makes them seem to at least partially focus on Rage)

blissful token
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Sadge

hexed stream
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fk, the workload on the first few days of new year is crazy
can't wait till lunar new year, 2 week holiday

blissful token
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I've only got 2 days for lunar new year lol

hexed stream
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officially is 1 week only, but I ask for 1 more week, since nobody does business in my field 1 week before holiday anyway

mental talon
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Best Ingenuity drop so far, now time to farm more King so I can gamba corrupt.

azure cairn
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where it drops?

mental talon
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King in the Mist

hexed stream
mental talon
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I've Corrupted 3 already, I wait until a new one drops and then I Corrupt

fierce moth
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what bonus can bring by corrupted that?

hexed stream
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value go up or down or nothing changes

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I vaal every single widowhail for example

hexed stream
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double extra damage and 1 shocked ground map mods, hit like a truck, lucky I esc fast enough

fierce moth
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!!!!!! Stash sale! Today! Start from today!

blissful token
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owh more than that

shut ferry
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Buy quad !!!

fierce moth
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I purchased four stash tabs and upgraded two of them to premium tabs in this sale

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Lack of stash issue is solved โœ…

hexed stream
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is there a thing that makes 4 normal premium tab turn into 1 quad tab? I recall seeing it before

blissful token
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for first timer, currency tab and a quad premium should suffice yea?

rose viper
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๐Ÿ˜‚

hexed stream
rose viper
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can't say it's enough but i can live with it

blissful token
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gem ๐Ÿค”

hexed stream
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no, the combination of 4 normal tabs into 1 quad

blissful token
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say u got 6 normal tabs, minimap wants to make 4 of them become 1 quad

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not buy a quad

blissful token
rose viper
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yeah

blissful token
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like if the item is not priced, it becomes a normal storage in the tab

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yea

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ok

rose viper
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premium = public listing

hexed stream
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quad is also premium, just 4 times the size

blissful token
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owh

rose viper
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quad and premium is not the same thing

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you can buy normal quad

hexed stream
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really?

rose viper
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yeah

hexed stream
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I don't see that option anywhere

rose viper
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premium = public listing

blissful token
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there is a quad premium right? that u can store AND also list for selling

rose viper
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quad = 4x the size of normal

blissful token
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yea

hexed stream
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there's no normal quad tab in the list

blissful token
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i guess currency + 1 quad premium is all good to go

rose viper
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i can swear i saw that yesterday

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let me check

fierce moth
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yeah it's not available anymore...

hexed stream
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because I'm thinking, if quad is 120, x6 premium bundle is 165, then buy the 165 coz it's cheaper

rose viper
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yes

fierce moth
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only premium quad tab here

rose viper
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buying bigger bulk always cheaper

blissful token
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for some reason i cant send photo here

rose viper
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like 4 normal tab is 160

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but 1 quad is 150

blissful token
rose viper
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something like that

blissful token
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there

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that is on the website

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๐Ÿค”

hexed stream
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guess I'll buy the x6, so I can divide into more price tabs

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now my tabs are 5ex, 10ex, 20ex, 1div, and 1 tab for in between, not a healthy division

fierce moth
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no one buy my goods is the bigger issue (no items in 1d so far)

hexed stream
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but I really hesitate to buy tabs, coz when they transfer map and catalyst tabs from poe1, I will then have too much space

fierce moth
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I decide to think map tab thing after they release this tab and it's on sale

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I'm using a individual premium tab for saving maps now, not a big matter

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I don't like only premium tabs can change colours and rename

blissful token
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so this is there but only for poe1? since it is not working for poe2

fierce moth
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yeah

blissful token
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oof

hexed stream
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this is how close I am to dying

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1 small hit and it was over

shut ferry
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The drops are insane

hexed stream
shut ferry
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But we don't have to move curso a lot :v i bought one

hexed stream
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I have 2, so I don't think about another quad
now it's just catalyst and maps taking space

shut ferry
hexed stream
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but mana can regen, ES needs to wait 4s

shut ferry
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Need 1 more breach ring to reach 400+

hexed stream
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you have 4 more mana regen than I have life regen

shut ferry
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I heard you need a lot of ES...

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Is this...enough for you....

hexed stream
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holy mom lol, where you get so many good rare items

twilit mountain
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Non-MoM user here xdd

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The regen hurts my soul, yes

junior oyster
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I have a couple of quad tabs but honestly I hate how small everything looks in them

junior oyster
hexed stream
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I didn't realize bone skills are buffed that much
need to try it out with blood mage

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I wish there was a zero between the 16%

fierce moth
hexed stream
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lol no, this I bought a 3mod wand from trade, then slam 3ex into it, bought for 10ex

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but I don't like this wand, no crit chance

blissful token
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๐Ÿฅน

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but i guess you guys are getting lotsa div drop in t15

fierce moth
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Except me because i don't reach t15 yet

candid sage
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not really. had my two div drops before t15s and nothing in them. lol. but plenty of good loot to sell

blissful token
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lol i got 2 raw div so far too

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just unlocked t6

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slow as snail

fierce moth
#

you get plenty of exalted orbs to upgrade your gears now

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๐Ÿ‘€ I going to grind a bit maps too...

blissful token
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i dont even know when should i upgrade my gear ๐Ÿ˜‚

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i got them 6 lines for resistances

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no runes no quality

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like i am not sure if i should just buy/craft them or level up till i have more options with higher level gear

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whew it dropped

twilit mountain
sand wigeon
ebon meadow
twilit mountain
vapid junco
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OBS captures last epoch when i have genshin enabled kappa

ebon meadow
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Xdd do u have both games running ?

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Noname huh groleshades

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Redo the rout to genshin it might have swap auto because u capturing a window specific

fierce moth
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@gilded elm Your hideout is super amazing... I even can go boating... This hideout is got by mapping?

ebon meadow
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Nahh that the expensive supporter pack I think

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The one that u get u own islands

fierce moth
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oh damn 101 exalted orbs get by single divide or now

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Facepalm and I still don't find a wild divide orb

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It's down a lot

blissful token
#

so.. dying in sekhemas will also deduct exp?

ebon meadow
blissful token
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i dont remember actually

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also, will the djinn be consumed if u fail?

ebon meadow
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I m 60 + I don't have any penalty yet

blissful token
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got some sources say lv 70 onwards

ebon meadow
blissful token
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i got 2 lv 68 and 2 lv 70 that all says can grant ascend points

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now i am scared

ebon meadow
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They an often drop

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It's fine if u fail,just farm I don't know like 5 before attempting if u not sure u can complete It

blissful token
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i dont even have any decent relic LUL

ebon meadow
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The thing with that ascendancy way it is very dependable on how lucky u are with rooms so it's agamba

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Bit ultimatum is same so not much difference

blissful token
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i just leveled up, so i am not worried about exp penalty but the key being consumed ๐Ÿ‘€

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while i am playing melee with no relic

ebon meadow
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Second they will go up again for weekend don't worry

junior oyster
#

Guys I plan on buying a new phone and it basically boils down to Sony Xperia 1 VI vs red magic 10 pro (512) and rog 9 pro (512). I'm leaning more towards rm10p but what do you guys think.

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Mainly just want a phone for slay the spire

ebon meadow
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I l always vouch for OPPO

junior oyster
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But rm10p looks the sickest

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Oppo isn't very much popular in the uk

fierce moth
#

omegalul I'm surprised you're not interested in Apple

junior oyster
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I'd rather gorge my eyes out

ebon meadow
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Apple is fine it a tank of a device but yea not worth it

junior oyster
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As in availability is kinda low for oppo

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I wouldn't buy a new phone but my current phone is literally falling apart xd

ebon meadow
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Yea that the issue I m still using A1 PRO because I sniped it for like 130 quid before it went to 400 omegalul

junior oyster
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Like lower bezel has started to pop off

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And I freaking love my Xperia xz premium man

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That mirror on the back so damn unique

ebon meadow
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Xperia is nice can defenetly vouch for that

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I like heavy duty phones that don't freeze often

junior oyster
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Even the front bezels on top bottom is mirror xd

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Yea which is why I'm thinking of something like rm10p xd

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It's also the cheapest out of my options

fierce moth
ebon meadow
#

144 Hz yesus

junior oyster
#

Sorry I've always hated apple lol

ebon meadow
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That refresh is better than my pc

junior oyster
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Not the fruit ofc

junior oyster
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Lol

ebon meadow
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I had iPhone 6 it defended it self defenetly

junior oyster
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Don't need it for pc much though

ebon meadow
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Not really unless u play fps shooters

junior oyster
ebon meadow
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It is noticeable in something like csgo

vapid junco
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could've swore it got tighter

ebon meadow
#

Maxim I don't even know what boss that is omegalul

fierce moth
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lightless arbor's boss

ebon meadow
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Really I think I have done that one can't remember drunk ass brain XD

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Well first thing I see is the circles stacked together so ... Yea

fierce moth
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@shut ferry Good night ๐Ÿ‘‹

fierce moth
ebon meadow
ebon meadow
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hello there whats ur name

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missing int brain to try it wtf

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game is baiting

vagrant topaz
#

???

hexed stream
#

now I have to log in and check my div lol

brisk oyster
#

yo does anyone know what realm you are supposed to join for classic wow

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like am i supposed to do anniversary

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or what

shut ferry
#

I'm so tanky...

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Chasing 400+ mana regen

hexed stream
#

MoM?

blissful token
#

seriously i got locked out of the sekhemas trial after portaling out from boss?

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and i have to restart?

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wuuuuuuaaatt??

shut ferry
blissful token
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and my previous afflictions are still on for this new trial

shut ferry
#

Trying to convert 7% over res from light to fire

hexed stream
#

few days till patch note

blissful token
#

this is pepega

fierce moth
#

what's pepega?

blissful token
#

this is the emote

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terracotta sentinel

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ouch...

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no way man

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ahhh yesss... the only honour option i have and the deceptive mirror have to screw me with another room

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fun

desert jasper
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Wonderful

blissful token
#

oh well

hexed stream
#

oh, the sandpit

blissful token
#

1 hit ko me

hexed stream
#

last boss?

blissful token
#

lets see

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yea

hexed stream
#

need help?

blissful token
#

you can come in at this moment?

hexed stream
#

I have no idea

blissful token
#

its fine

#

imma just look up a video about the boss

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prolly doesnt matter and he is just gonna 1 shot me anyway

hexed stream
#

invite me, see if I can come in and help

blissful token
#

<600 honour left :v

hexed stream
#

oh cannot

blissful token
#

:v

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yeap 1 tail swipe and i ded

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well at least the relic slots got expanded after clearing the second boss

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and i can cap honour res now

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realllly dont know if i wanna do another 1

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i got 2 keys left

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hmm... 70% honour resist + 2 additional options for merchant purchase seems like a decent setup

blissful token
shut ferry
#

IS that good profit farming sanctum ?

blissful token
#

no i am just getting my 3rd ascendancy

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50% merchant cheaper cost active too

fierce moth
#

4800 points... The big wealth i can't imagine

blissful token
#

TIME TO pressf THE SCORPION

#

ayy completed my 3rd ascendency

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man these trial boons/afflictions can break your character or just make it a walk in the park

hexed stream
#

patch?

blissful token
#

thank god i completed my trial

desert jasper
#

Just maintenance
approx 15min

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according to forum announcement

blissful token
#

these 2 ascend points do not help much, but only to progress the tree lol

shut ferry
#

Rip spark/archmage

#

Nerf and druid incoming?

blissful token
#

druid coming in a 10 - 15 mins maintenance? ๐Ÿคฃ

wispy moon
#

no way its coming?

hexed stream
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0.1.0e hotfix 2: temporarily disable temporalis and archmage and howa ๐Ÿคฃ

fierce moth
#

?

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They just say a maintencance is coming

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that'll very hilarious hhhh

#

omegalul the official website is shut down too

hexed stream
#

so this is what maintenance gives me

desert jasper
fierce moth
blissful token
#

spend the 2 points of ascendancy for 15% life PepeLaugh

fierce moth
#

Ok the main work is done, just lack of many adjustments in photoshop. Will do it later.
Give a spoiler here :)

shut ferry
#

Wow

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Is that from Aggorat

fierce moth
#

you're right

shut ferry
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So beautiful mate

fierce moth
#

I feel the architecture is a bit small contrast with corns on the table and table itself... Facepalm But fine, that's it

shut ferry
#

Kek

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I like the ancient arkitec from Aggorat

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From my HO

fierce moth
#

yeah cancel hideout is used the same architecture assets from aggorat

shut ferry
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cancel HO ?

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It's....Canal HO sis

blissful token
#

3rd raw div POG

shut ferry
#

What a chad

hexed stream
#

lol you're making @fierce moth jealous

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@blissful token thanks to your luck

blissful token
#

Hidden maintenance currency boost: div drop rate +100%

shut ferry
#

Haven't seen any divine dropped for days...

#

Can you two spare one to me... to share ther joice

hexed stream
shut ferry
#

Still no devine drop ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

shut ferry
#

No divine but this big boy cames out from ritual... i'm good with that

fierce moth
hexed stream
#

rich

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man, I should follow you and do ritual since my build can't stack too much rarity, not even 100 yet

shut ferry
#

Get audience with a king, i will help you get book

clear idol
hexed stream
#

lol no way there's a 10mod map in this game?

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wish me luck guys

shut ferry
#

Look how many mods in my map.. plus delirium

fierce moth
clear idol
fierce moth
#

It's fine if your damage can one shot every enemy

clear idol
shut ferry
clear idol
shut ferry
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And this.. extremely rare to me

junior oyster
#

Yet annul is worthless to chaos orbs lol

shut ferry
#

I'm accumulating it, i believe in next 3 weeks it would be hot, when people can afford crafting with omen

hexed stream
#

Another 24h away, but I'm 27 div now, 3 away from my goal before patch note

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Hope it's enough for some new S tier build

fierce moth
#

POG They're enough definitely

shut ferry
#

S tier maybe deadeyes? Idk what tier of my build is, maybe B

fierce moth
#

Then my build is C

shut ferry
#

No, spark is S+

hexed stream
#

No, spark is N tier

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N = nerf

#

Deadeye good, but bow too expensive
Not sure what to play next, need to see the patch note

exotic wave
#

Yeah Spark and Stat Stacking builds are probably getting nerfed

#

(although it's not Spark itself that'll probably be nerfed but everything surrounding it)

#

well Spark might see a relatively minor nerf too

ebon meadow
#

Nah if it's stat stack they won't get nerfed ,the build requires gear knowledge and currency so it will hold for a long time

#

Usually builds that don't require effort and can do Uber Bose's are more likely to get a nerf

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Tldr please don't nerf spark untill I played some breach with it omegalul

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Also a note when things like spark can be played with a bow I find it a very extended buil making lol example voltaxic spark from poe1

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Of work till Tuesday pog just finish few beers and it's gaming time groleshades might level something else if I hit maps on monk

fierce moth
#

@junior oyster@shut ferry Can I join in your friend list on discord?

shut ferry
#

FML... failed both belts

rose viper
#

i wouldnt call the first one a fail

#

you make it more valuable then pre-vaal

shut ferry
#

I'm chasing the 90%+ T_T

rose viper
#

you can still sell it for more fuel for the chase xD

#

im sure you'll get more div from it then the cost to buy 76% + an omen

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i'd buy that if i havent already got one

shut ferry
#

You right..more positive mindset for me..I was so upset

shut ferry
#

I'm giving away good T14 maps, anyone need them ?

fierce moth
#

๐Ÿค” I hope it can become popular on reddit

narrow token
#

Cool. I'd play a game with that art style

fierce moth
#

The next one I want do is last shrine, it's harder because it's a dungeon (in-room landscape requires more on light)

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Oh no... I forget the loop pattern hereFacepalm ... Fine I don't want to edit that anymore

#

omegalul 5d for adding this pattern on the architecture. Do a deal?

#

Maybe it can become a mini easter egg lol

rose viper
#

exalt orb strikes again

#

lmao

tawny sand
#

needs more light radius

narrow token
#

Disappointed that lightning bolt is only on a certain weapon.

fierce moth
#

POG ...Dreamy wand

#

You saved 5d at least

fierce moth
#

perfect wand is lightning damage + mana + spell damage + max skill level bonus + cast speed + mana regeneration

rose viper
#

your item pricing is really off kirra xD

#

i'd get 2 billion insta whisper if i list that wand even for 50 div

fierce moth
#

Do farming in delirious maps let me feel hungry more quickly I admit

#

(chewing a beef strip)

candid sage
#

ah yes. the 4 hand breach map. very nice

rose viper
#

guess what map that was on

candid sage
#

crypt?

rose viper
#

1 crypt and 1 augury

#

kekw

candid sage
#

lmao

blissful token
#

cant consistently do delirium/breach.. so i have to get from raw drop

fierce moth
twilit mountain
mental talon
twilit mountain
#

The splinters part gives me so much dopamine

wanton flicker
#

I know this is a random comment but flex your gaming variety , you all

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Outside of ARPGs, I play treasure games like The Great Circle and Tomb Raider

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also fighting games like Mortal Kombat

narrow token
#

I'm dabbling in survival crafting games like Enshrouded these days. Though I mainly enjoy action-adventure rpgs. Or just action-adventure games. Like Nier, Horizon, or Spider-Man and Outer Worlds. I kind of want to get V Rising. I liked it during the free weekend they did a little while ago.

candid sage
#

Wartales. Satisfactory. Civ 7(coming sooooooon). Fire Emblem. Elden Ring. BG3. Tons or single player story games. Honestly anything but fighting games

narrow token
#

Games I've enjoyed over the years.

candid sage
#

Control is amazing

narrow token
#

Yeah it really was. I'm looking forward to the sequel a lot.

junior oyster
#

I forced myself to finish crosscode (didn't bother with dlc) but I hated the puzzles

rose viper
#

Play guilty gear and got direct invited to world finals once

#

Im surprised if anyone in this channel knew what game that is

hexed stream
narrow token
vapid junco
#

i kinda liked both
more like especially liked puzzles
but i stopped around vermillion wasteland arc

#

pacing got lame

narrow token
#

I hope Alabaster Dawn has less of them, personally.

hexed stream
#

Anyone knows the max ES you can have on chest piece? 2k?

fierce moth
#

Puzzle games/adventure games

#

I played earlier than play ARPG

#

Never talk about them deeply because I forget lots of details already and no one here i met like the same game genre

#

I have been addicted in playing different solitaires for a while, they're logic-based heavily

#

Awsome, be recognized by random people XD

hexed stream
#

Such a bad sunday for me, without computer, and now without electricity as well

mental talon
hexed stream
#

All I can see is the one on the right corner with quantity 2 ๐Ÿ˜‚

fierce moth
#

I just realize something... I must refill the charm per time I consumed charges

#

Facepalm So I don't get 20% rarity item chance all the time

#

6 rare enemies at least I must kill to complete a map, then it mean this charm is useless

#

I must get this affix if i want that work consistently Facepalm

#

Facepalm My mana regeneration still don't enough to support me fighting with rare enemies under delirious mode

#

Normal tier 13-15 map is fine, but rare enemies are big blocks under delirious mode

#

Too much cost before I can get profit in this game ๐Ÿซ 

fierce moth
#

Facepalm I only can get experience when you're here because I'm slain too often without your help.

#

But I need their rewards to bonus my build. What a good dead loop is

#

Or I can say the life of my build is ended since lv.76... The cost on upgrading my gears just too insane

#

That'll an excellent choice for alt one but spark archamage is very bad for the first character

shut ferry
#

Hot build

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

yeah no idea why these players so rich

blissful token
#

why they are rich? because they play stormweaver

#

why they play stormweaver? because they are rich

shut ferry
#

@fierce moth to make profit you must at least maximize your atlas breach

fierce moth
#

The only solution is meet a boss willing to help you

shut ferry
#

@fierce moth You available in next 2-3 hours ? i will finish set 3 of breach

fierce moth
#

No idea because I want to sleep ๐Ÿฅฑ

shut ferry
#

Anytime

#

Whenever you see me onl

hexed stream
#

Still without electricity, and phone battery is 31%, what a day

hexed stream
#

Ok I'm back to civilized world with electricity

fierce moth
#

I admit it's an addicting snack indeed if someone like spicy food. Just too salty if I have more than two strips per day

hexed stream
#

๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

what the hellllll....

#

All encounters focused on a map...

rose viper
shut ferry
rose viper
#

Yeah and this is with 1 completely dead mod

shut ferry
#

But depend on build

rose viper
#

Life reg is dead right

shut ferry
#

so so for me, need some LG

#

Finally i got something to show to friends..

rose viper
#

And %es while not completely dead, is jusst whatever

#

So lodbrok got basically a 3/5 +3 skill that can easily sell for 30 divs

#

Imagine one with all 5 valuable mod high rolled

#

For the most meta build

shut ferry
#

life regen => maximum life... perfect for minions build

rose viper
#

Yup

hexed stream
#

I'm not sure if it's the same in poe1, but it seems %defensive stats from gears and passive tree are multiplicative to each other

fierce moth
shut ferry
fierce moth
#

emmmm which one should I use...

junior oyster
#

Strict at the very least

shut ferry
hexed stream
#

I use cdr strict, not sure how it compares to fub filters

#

Maybe fub is better

fierce moth
#

POG 30% ms, first time

#

POG 15% magnitude of shock, first time

hexed stream
#

football time

fierce moth
#

With @shut ferry's blessing, the roll on rare items go well

#

Only one people selling this item...hah why

hexed stream
#

reduced movement speed, nobody wants that

shut ferry
#

I spend alot on maximizing maps

hexed stream
#

I heard about the playstyle where you waste all not so desirable maps to juice 1 map, not what I will ever do though, it's anti-gameplay

shut ferry
#

But you can't just do every single map you found

#

need to be picky

hexed stream
#

not every single, I do all breach ones

#

or you mean waystone? I always fully ex then vaal

fierce moth
#

Such a pity that this game ia rare on sale

shut ferry
#

I only do these maps

hexed stream
#

yeah, quant is very important, much more so than rarity

shut ferry
#

devine 1 from breach, 1 from rare pack

fierce moth
fierce moth
#

Facepalm Forget it's belong to xbox so game pass is a big bonus

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

I don't believe you're so poor

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

hhh I'm right

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

hhh I'm more right

shut ferry
#

Having 3 ingen belts... you must know what i can afford... xD

fierce moth
#

I'm wondering when my experience can pass half line stably

hexed stream
lusty pasture
# shut ferry

do you really need 25 strength in your mace? try to search w/o it

hexed stream
#

this dude stays so long after the trade with me, but little did he know all the div are on me, not in the stash

blissful token
#

you can remove them by changing hideout and change back

fierce moth
#

I just let that stranger stay here because I didn't want to play maps too

blissful token
#

so....

#

better be cautious than sorry

shut ferry
fierce moth
#

emmmm I'm hard to like this style honestly even I like voxel arts...

#

Fresh to see this UI after get used to blood ball one

#

omegalul Compete with a game studio from Xbos games?... Wow very stressful

#

Well, the map design will more close to artworks from voxelart community I seen lol

fierce moth
# indigo shadow Game Pass gives you free. <:omegalul:570776988327870475>

I'll say the cost of using special art style like this one is action part is too easy... So it can't create epic combats like poe 2 surely... it'll attract special costumer type for sure, but I guess more people will like fantasy & realistic art style, as you see in le and poe 2 ๐Ÿค”
Facepalm I'm tortuned by high difficulty from poe 2 but I'm tortuned by too low difficulty in minecraft dungeons too...

hexed stream
#

perfection

fierce moth
#

Figured out why most of people in game industry who made ARPG choose physically-based rendering as the workflow after played this game anyways... Thanks @indigo shadow

It solved the question confused me for years

#

The main question is animation. Impossible to do any advanced actions under voxel art... So it only can follow this direction to develop: specially and cute

#

Too many faces for detailed voxel arts in a game to run as well so performance is a big issue too ๐Ÿค”

#

Plus indie games is very high-risk...

indigo shadow
#

Speaking of that and indie? Notch gives us a word roadmap for minecraft 2.

fierce moth
#

yeah only single minecraft can be existed...

indigo shadow
#

but the reward system isn't as good as Last Epoch or POE

#

You can do like 2 health flask by sacrificing either Crowd Control, or Minion, or damage spell

#

but CC and Minions are essentials in Minecraft dungeon, for health: You have to be smart and pray for RNGsus for the game to drop food.

#

I think Minecraft is a few game where you can accidentally drop out of the map.

fierce moth
#

to be honest, I prefer to stay with art style like le or poe 2... Voxel art just can do some personal works

indigo shadow
#

I understand.

fierce moth
#

Facepalm people just know minecraft if someone mention voxel art... That's what I'm disappointed

#

But no one can doubt minecraft is a famous game even it's a ip already

fierce moth
#

omegalul Meet so much new people who meaningful and significant for me here... this community is pretty interesting and nice

#

Feel boring on both of le and poe 2, so I just wait titan quest 2 now

fierce moth
#

Xd I discovered S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl is included in xbox game pass... such a pity that i don't have corresponding hardwares to play fps games. This game worth the cost of pass already

#

I had played too less games so it's a great trouble for me to dig a game in xbox game pass to play consistently

stone arch
fierce moth
#

Micro/Mini stuff is what I like, but they don't need to be voxelize

stone arch
#

i dont quite undersatnd what you mean, im just saying that minecraft is so widespread known that any game using voxel cubes of certain size will immediately think of minecraft. vintage story has option to 'chisel' blocks into micro blocks to add more depth into custom building world around you. like someone sculpting decorations for interior.

fierce moth
#

The biggest issue for me to learn arts is why I want to learn that and what can I do after I learnt that

#

Ok perfect moment :)
94K views + 34 shares + 10 comments.

viral galleon
#

It's crazy how much you can juice certain things

#

My frostbomb is reducing resistance by 90%

hexed stream
narrow token
#

Minecraft diablo-like when?

hexed stream
#

there's already a minecraft arpg I think

twilit mountain
#

Minecraft Dungeons yea

#

It's pretty alright

#

Obviously doesn't compare to the big names but it isn't really supposed to, it's a casual game for a very casual audience

hexed stream
#

I guess this is what they call work from home

fierce moth
#

๐Ÿค” Ok I uploaded that on my X and Ins too. Let's see will GGG react to that

blissful token
#

Pikachu.png

#

Whr the beeg patch or updates to all other beeger issues

desert jasper
#

I'd suspect something coming on thursday

fierce moth
#

I guess I have hope on hitting 100k views by my post on reddit XD (99k now)

desert jasper
#

Got my 2nd ascendancy on the infernalist
I could swap to storm mages now
just gonna miss the +105 spirit from my chest

#

But it should really only mean like... 1 less mages than infernalists

shut ferry
desert jasper
#

But thank you

shut ferry
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How many spirits you have

hexed stream
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@shut ferry amazing I think fubgun uber strict filter is still not as strict as cdr strict, so I guess I'll use fubgun instead

surreal lotus
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Other than breaches(Which I highly doubt stay the way they do), I still maintain that the only reason for a loot filter in poe2 is to hide white items that don't have quality on them

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Even with 300% quality, and like 100% quantity on your waystone(assuming a god roll here), there's just not enough drops from regular content to matter

To each their own though. People love their filters, and I'm starting to dial my own in on LE lmao

hexed stream
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how long have you played poe2? or poe in general?
and not even sure what's the point you're trying to make
the highend loot filters in poe2 still show white jewelry bases btw

fierce moth
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I have no idea how strict fubgun very strict filter is even I tested it all night... I don't think it's strict enough

hexed stream
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I have been using cdr strict all the time, and it seems stricter than the uber strict, so now I roll back to fubgun uber strict

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I think his strict version is for after finish campaign, very strict is for after tier 10, and uver strict after tier 15

shut ferry
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Hopefully they gonna fix minions stucks on narrow door soon

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I'm tired...

desert jasper
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LOL
I got stuck in the Viper Napuatzi fight
Like I rolled to the soldiers when they moved to make the arena smaller
and I got stuck in the soldiers. on top of them
She couldn't hit me, I couldn't hit her.
2 of my minions could dmg her, barely.
so I just looked while they killed her

shut ferry
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Oh i remember this viper naiz

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Was kinda hard when i fight her xD

fierce moth
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The most impressive boss in poe 2

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Lv.33 on the skill... Alright I know why my damage is poor now
Yeah spark skill level is 23 and still four sockets only

fierce moth
hexed stream
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even I don't have any lvl 20 gem yet lol

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that thing is ways rarer than perfect jeweller

shut ferry
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My friend just got 1 in simulacrum boss fight just now when we farming it

junior oyster
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Sure damage helps but you need to have resists etc usually

fierce moth
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Poor damage so more damage must be taken before I kill them

junior oyster
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Again that could be to do with your gear too

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I was doing t15s for a while with just 5l gems

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And I only have one 6l gem

shut ferry
hexed stream
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not until patch

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also I don't really have damage issue, more of defense issue

blissful token
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I cant even do breaches at t8 without dying

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Hopefully the minor changes in passive yesterday will help later

fierce moth
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Yeah that one needs crazy damage to one shot them, otherwise you'll be slain immediately

blissful token
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Clear is one thing.. mace skills commitment is just too high

hexed stream
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lol for real this shit is 10div?

fierce moth
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....emmm everyone think my 2e items are suspicious so they don't buy any of them? ๐Ÿค”

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I guess maybe I should increase the price to 5e

maiden widget
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going by simple logic i'd rather assume they're just not good enough for 2e

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if stuff is underpriced you get swarmed by whispers normally

fierce moth
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First time to see a thing like that

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Prices for cosmetics are amazing generally... Single mini one can hit a poe 2 ea key easily

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And that's very cheap already... Many of them is 2-3x poe 2 key

desert jasper
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Finally got some exalts

fierce moth
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๐Ÿคฃ I'm the most poor player here now
56e in stash, no divide orb

fierce moth
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Do nothing

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So hard to reach GGG even I made a popular fan art :(

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Their artwork showcase channel did nothing even their employees (community manager) in that server too

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I'll go bankrupt

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ I never know I can play my hideout in this way

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I have an idea for asking problems I met in game by my fan art suddenly...
Let me do many rings and amulets and hanging them in the picture hhhh

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Titie: [Fan art] I just want many jewelries for my gears and the trade, GGG

sand wigeon
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Though if you like Minecraft it's a little disappointing purely because the main game doesn't have half the stuff Minecraft Dungeons does

junior oyster
twilit mountain
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Thumbs both are and are not considered fingers tbf

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It's context dependent

candid sage
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Wait until you hear about wearing two rings on a finger

hexed stream
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combat wise, wearing many rings hampers your ability to hold weapons, and amulets are just weak points to be exploited

hexed stream
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fk it always japan realm

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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still affect the grip though, it's just how it is

sand wigeon
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if your rings affect your grip that badly, you need to get better rings

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i have worn rings while using weapons

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it is not hard

hexed stream
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1 is fine, 10 rings are a different story

sand wigeon
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yeah, maybe not ten, but i could easily have one on both my middle and ring

hexed stream
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the main grip is between thumb and index, middle a bit, the last 2 don't matter

sand wigeon
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pinky matters a lot

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middle and ring are primarily supporting fingers for grip strength and don't require as much mobility

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you palm a hilt with your pointer and thumb

hexed stream
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not sure what kind of weapon needs your pinky, I did archery, kendo, shaolin staff before, none of them use pinky

sand wigeon
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99% of swords use your pinky, especially hand and a half or two handed swords. bostaff used it a lot. fists want your pinky. yeah you don't need it for archery

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your pinky gives a lot of supporting strength in your hand

hexed stream
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you sure you're not confusing pinky with thumb?

sand wigeon
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yes. i am not confusing pinkies with thumbs.

hexed stream
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then I'm sure we're experiencing very different ways of handling weapons

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the most used ones in your daily life will be a knife and a pen, none of which require pinky

blissful token
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whew.. changing the passive a little helped me survive breach

sand wigeon
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i mean i use my pinky for both knives and pens but okay

fierce moth
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???????

hexed stream
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and all my martial arts trainers, even the national gold medalist ones, often told their students that pinky is useless in competition and just a weak point for opponents to exploit

hexed stream
sand wigeon
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pinky provides grip strength and mobility for pens, and palming a knife for the best control and grip requires a ring finger and pinky

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pinkies add a lot of mobility when holding things

fierce moth
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No, I check out the wiki and confused what can this ring do

hexed stream
sand wigeon
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it is! i just explained how, actually!

hexed stream
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you don't quite explain how though

sand wigeon
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so, when holding a pen, the pinky allows me finer tuned mobility due to giving me support in my hand. say i extent my pinky: i get less precision because my grip is much looser, due to the tightening of the pinky allowing me that grip strength. when palming a knife, i can barely move the knife--and not move it safely whatsoever--without at least my pinky or ring finger, but ideally both

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i canโ€™t even palm the knife correctly without them, at all

fierce moth
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๐Ÿค” I wonder how vendors keep these jewelries new and safe to sell

hexed stream
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all my life, I handle a pen, a pair of chopstick, a knife, and all the martial arts weapons, perfectly fine without using pinky at all

fierce moth
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Maybe i should check out how are they do for that in le

hexed stream
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@sand wigeon also if you know chinese caligraphy, they only use a brush with 3 fingers: thumb, index, middle

sand wigeon
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no i don't

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i do not speak nor write any chinese dialect

hexed stream
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just to demonstrate to you that the historically longest lasting form of caligraphy in the world, doesn't require a pinky to function at all

sand wigeon
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okay

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calligraphy is not fighting

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calligraphy also wants you to have a looser grip

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it allows for smoother movements

hexed stream
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it requires precision more so than fighting

sand wigeon
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anyway we've escaped the point

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your pinky supports the rest of your hand to a great degree. is it less useful? sure, but still very important

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your ring finger is definitely your least important finger though

hexed stream
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as such, I don't believe pinky has any notable function in the hand, rather, it's the muscle that connects the end of the pinky to your palm, which basically belongs to palm muscle, is the real important one

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many people confuse that muscle to belong to pinky, when in fact it belongs to the palm

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and yes, that muscle accounts for more than 50% grip strength of the whole palm

sand wigeon
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yes. this is what i've been saying

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that still makes the pinky important

hexed stream
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as in, you can still chop off your pinky and your grip is still intact, because they are 2 separate muscles

sand wigeon
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yes. but have i chopped my pinky off? no

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which means the pinky is important

hexed stream
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pinky is not important, the muscle below it is

sand wigeon
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which requires the pinky to use

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if the pinky was truly useless, then why don't we just have it removed at birth! sounds great to me

hexed stream
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no it doesn't, like I said, even without a pinky, that muscle is not affected, fully functional

sand wigeon
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yes but i have a pinky.

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anyway this is going nowhere

hexed stream
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yes but it doesn't matter

sand wigeon
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have a good day

hexed stream
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you have a pinky doesn't mean it's useful, many things in our body are useless remnants of evolution

fierce moth
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๐Ÿ˜… The direction of topic go to a weird one

hexed stream
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like the last part of backbone for example

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it's useless for human, coz we don't have a tail

sand wigeon
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minimap we're clogging the channel with nothing of worth

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move on, i just told you to

hexed stream
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well I can't