📚┃off-topic

[ebon meadow]

I got boots with 10 ms in like first zone XD but that's was the only stat and I sacrifice them for rares with good armour base

[tawny sand]

there is that weird teleport to a low life mob sorc skill but it's kind of bad tbh

i've been messing with it

[snow kestrel]

Is leap slam a thing? I've not looked for movement skills but I think I saw it going pretty fast somewhere

offhand leap slamming might be a thing

[tawny sand]

oh idk

[gilded elm]

Shield Charge as well, just requires a lot of Strength and of course a shield.

[snow kestrel]

low level shield charge?? That might be the play, I'll have to try it out

[fierce moth]

@shut ferry @hexed stream How to add you?

[snow kestrel]

offhanding a shield is something I think people are trying aswell so it fits

[fierce moth]

I don't know which key for social

oh J

[hexed stream]

J
give me your name, should be same as poe1 right?

[ebon meadow]

I have seen the shield charge u get fairly early and u don't have to weapon swap I think just as for shield block

Can use the skill with having it in secondary weapon slot

[fierce moth]

Ok you're in my friend list

[snow kestrel]

does it still swap you over to the shield to use it and swap back after with their autoswap system or just keeps your main weapon out somehow?

just curious for DoT and trigger stuff, that would be cool if you keep scaling from you main weapon

[ebon meadow]

It swaps it then swaps it back with any skills

[fierce moth]

Ok... Can both of you help you to kill bosses in bone pit?

[hexed stream]

which boss is that?

[fierce moth]

Oh I should use in game chat

[gilded elm]

You designate the weapon set to use for a specific skill

[fierce moth]

@hexed stream

[gilded elm]

I believe it stays on the last selected weapon set, so you'd be holding your shield after shield charge I think, unless you use a skill that swaps you back to your other weapon. At least that's how I remember it.

[ebon meadow]

Yep

U shield charge then use any other skill and it swaps it back instantly

Witch is probably better since if u charge in to pack u still be holding the shield for defence untill u use a skill

[ebon meadow]

Wait what the f is that window ? I have been searching for cast without moving option everywhere

Just clicking skill in G tab ?

[gilded elm]

yeah, lil arrow next to dps

[ebon meadow]

God damn it

U have no idea how bad I had it with a slam

[gilded elm]

lol

So that's interesting, this boss fight actually has a hard time limit haha

[ebon meadow]

The boss fights are actually good u have to listen to sound qs and the animation instead of just plundering it with damage

I don't know if I like it personally for now but that's how it supposed to be

[gilded elm]

I like all the boss fights so far. I didn't know this boss was gonna be time limited somehow, should've been more focused on doing damage

[tawny sand]

idk if there's options for it, but i imagine it's a colorblind person's nightmare though on some things

[ebon meadow]

Bose's actually challenging,who would of thought xd

[tawny sand]

my friend is colorblind and was thinking of getting it

[ebon meadow]

They usually very good with colourblind stuff but I don't know how good is it in EA

[tawny sand]

also this jungle is niceeeee, i really like it

but i love dense foresty areas in games

[ebon meadow]

Ohh no pls no jungle acts lol PTSD from D2 voodoo dolls

[gilded elm]

It's nice until the Quadrillas slap you out of nowhere

[ebon meadow]

That got me on my tips again

Wait untill we find shotgun proj mobs that would be fun

They are broken like hell

Btw monks bell fall is crazy broken for Bose's I m expecting a NERF very soon

[snow kestrel]

Gold trough guy?

[snow kestrel]

Its my crutch, would not be in act 5 without it

[ebon meadow]

Yep

Staffs so fast it's fills like u stuning Bose's left to right

It's 3 attks per second and u need 4 to drop it then another 6 to breake lmao

[snow kestrel]

Im using a bow offhand for the electrify bow skill just to chain stun bosses

[ebon meadow]

Just constantly stunning them xd

[gilded elm]

I think so, he's "Empowered by Molten Gold"

[ebon meadow]

Smart lol

[snow kestrel]

Yeah, some form of stun or a ranged poke helped a lot with that fight

[gilded elm]

It's basically a hard build check, do it before time runs out haha

[ebon meadow]

Sounds like the boss that is going to make to reroll in to witch lmao

Unless I get it perfectly ,back to lost ark Bose's now

The dodge is good when u don't have latency issues

[gilded elm]

Some of these encounters do seem reminiscent of Lost Ark raids, in a good way

[ebon meadow]

Yea

Defenetly not a bad thing makes a good check up on hand skill and character knowledge

Not just mash buttons and kill everything (we l get to that point )

Not looking at warriors at all right now

I am in love with first combo skill for monk the light one

It does feel like a freaking striker from LA

I wonder if we got facebreakers in game ?

Surely I can go fists strikes on monk and just have my immersion

[fierce moth]

@ebon meadow@gilded elm What your ign is?

[gilded elm]

"Byteflux" should just work, I don't play on that character right now but I made it to play later

[fierce moth]

I'm eating my night snack, a sanguage bread

[ebon meadow]

Amm ,char name idd_shin_sui ACC name is iddpapi

[fierce moth]

oh forget one, @tawny sand

[tawny sand]

my char name is ZippityBippity if you need that

[fierce moth]

Ok all of you in my friend list :)

[tawny sand]

oh nice i got two more lesser jewel orbs now

but idk what to use them on hmm

[gilded elm]

This happens a bit more than I'd like lol

Oh well, we go again.

Oh? Interesting, the quest item stayed even though I resurrected at checkpoint.

[fierce moth]

......I hate be hunted and my damage is too poor

[fierce moth]

<@&1082357055484071997>

[ember lake]

I got 'em 👍

[fierce moth]

Holy god, I find where the titan grotto is after explored valley of titan for 4h

🙃 I'm hunted by these skeletons so hard

[tawny sand]

the worms is what killed me in valley of titans, i would constantly have like rare one after rare one and they were so long to kill cause they keep burrowing

[wind jolt]

only from steam

crazy

[fierce moth]

Holy god I know why you prefer flame walls + spark now... The boss combat in titan grotto teach me arc is too slow on cast speed

[tawny sand]

yeah, arc feels bad to me personally

[ebon meadow]

Flame wall is op for even melé char,as long as u use proj its crazy

I was gonna use it but I switched from proj slam to strike so it's worthless to me now

[tawny sand]

i'm leaning off it and going more orb of storms now

i didn't realize the overabundance support gem can stack them

it doubles the effect (i think)

[fierce moth]

Anyone have lightning rune? I have fire rune, cold rune, mana rune and stun threshold rune to exchange

[muted parrot]

got the same problem 😦 somehow they are more rare than others

[fierce moth]

oh wait... can I make a socket on my wand? seems not

[ebon meadow]

I think I have one but u d have to wait like 3,5 hours untill I get out worky

[tawny sand]

i don't think you can socket magic weapons? i haven't seen any way to

[ebon meadow]

Should able to

[tawny sand]

oh maybe i'm wrong

[ebon meadow]

With the socket orb

[tawny sand]

i only have "martial weapons" socket orb

[ebon meadow]

Now they are rare

[fierce moth]

yeah I can't

[ebon meadow]

U might be right but it seems odd

[fierce moth]

Ok so that orb only useful for adding lightning resistance

[ebon meadow]

Poe it does make sense though since the damage that is added is to hits and u don't hit Ur self with spells so...

That is weird

[fierce moth]

Do you find a lightning damage rare wand? I haven't see one yet

[muted parrot]

to all PoE2 players, if you want a more PoE1 experience..play Deadeye with Tailwind. 👍 Also passive tree there is stacked with good stuff not like witch where you need to travel 8 points to reach stuff >.<
Build: ||Evasion stacking + Lightning Rod/Lightning Arrow and Freezing Salvo for chill/freeze|| is super strong!
I played minions as starter which felt awful, then chronomancer which got stuck at endboss in Act2..now I'm comfortably zooming with Deadeye 😎

[muted parrot]

yes I did, but wasn't enough to reach Act3 with Sorceress. I even tried Cold version after Spark/Flame Wall failed to do enough damage at the damage check boss but playstyle was not for me and damage was better but not strong

[fierce moth]

🫠 I hope less one shot in boss combats really

No time for attacking here to be honest

[narrow token]

Yup I experienced the exact same thing on that boss. The pools underneath you also sap your health, and the bosses take less elemental damage. So bursting them before you die (While chugging pots I might add) is very difficult.

[fierce moth]

How to refresh goods here?

[muted parrot]

I think they refresh on lvl up

[fierce moth]

I log out and log in but they're still the same

[muted parrot]

would be too easy to abuse^^

[fierce moth]

Damn... So no chance for me to increase damage

[muted parrot]

yeah..I basically couldn't progress with my sorceress without insane grind for a few level ups. So I tried the class and ascendancy which I had the least interest in and it's surprisingly exactly what I wanted or needed after being kicked around by every little enemy doing zero damage.
In my opinion classes are very unbalanced even more than in LE where it's fine because it's not that difficult

[tawny sand]

how do you see how much mana cost support gems add?

oh, nvm there's cost mutliplier but it's a percentage

i'd just like to see the flat cost

[muted parrot]

I also heard beating bosses is a solid source for rare items but that's a lie unfortunately. Ofc you can be lucky but I reset so many areas and did bosses 2-3 times and most of the time it was just blue items and crafting currency

[muted parrot]

you can hover over your skill in the skill bar to see the actual mana cost

[fierce moth]

🤭 Yeah you're right. They're uopdated but I lack of golds to purchase focus I want then...

[muted parrot]

you can try to craft every focus you find. The first 2 mods are very cheap
I'd recommend a shield.

[tawny sand]

oh derp, thanks

[mental talon]

I think the Bleed Crit Sunder that I cooked is starting to take roots.

[fierce moth]

Get this currency for the first time

But still no luck on lightning damage affix

[narrow token]

I wish I could do dmg like that on my monk. :\

[fierce moth]

Alright, another annoying enemy I found. Why the loot is super poor even I kill so many enemies aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[narrow token]

Rewards are pretty low for the amount of challenge the game presents imo

[fierce moth]

She shot spears to me suddenly often and she even have a lightning cover version

[fierce moth]

Pretttttttttttty super extremeeeeeeeeee so agree with that

[muted parrot]

rares are sometimes like bosses..there are pretty annoying and powerful mods on them 💀
I fought the double rare miniboss recently and one of them had 'invulnarability aura' while the other had 'cannot regen life above 50%'..very funny

[fierce moth]

Another problem is map is too BIG and enemies must respawn after you resurrect on waypoint so I must take a long time to go back where I died. The punishment of died in a map even worse than poe because more possibility you have to be slain again and again due to it's very easy to be surrounded by them.

hah... I had played poe 2 enough. Time to shoot my feedback on reddit

[muted parrot]

yeah..had the same experience as witch and hated everything about the game but now I see some good things of it finally. I highly recommend Ranger 🏹

[fierce moth]

Which command for checking out my playtime?

[muted parrot]

./played in poe1

yep, 11 hrs in with Ranger and I'm at the end of Act2 🤣 but I was standing around AfK for some time I guess

[tawny sand]

my friend is playing witch minions and are in act 3 now i think

and the other day someone was saying ranger sucks here so

🤷

[muted parrot]

🤯

can't imagine being successful with minions as starter tbh but with good drop luck, maybe everything is possible^^
I really dislike the 10 seconds revive time which you can lower but the passives are scattered all over the place and witch is really lacking defense options in the skill tree imo, it's just ES basically which is probably fine as summoner.
I'll gather some gear and will come back to minion witch then but for now I want to continue without being stuck as lightning Deadeye 💪

[muted parrot]

playing SSF

[shut ferry]

We are still early, once i reached 40+ i feel better

Act 3 drop lots of yellow gears look nice to me

[ebon meadow]

Minions are busted apparently heard it earlier today as well from experienced player

Now I want to make my minion army girl witch

Speatially with flame wall

[ebon meadow]

Pretty sure u did king of the mist to in act 1 his respawn zone is between 2 rituals and when u respawn u instantly get grouped by the packs surrounding them

Freaking had to over level like 2-3 levels above him annoying fight when u don't know the AoE he has

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hahtbq/my_opinions_as_a_new_player_in_arpg_and_soullike/
ok all of my opinions for poe 2 is here

[tough bear]

How are you guys liking poe 2

[muted parrot]

these end of the act bosses are so insanely stacked with 'random bullshit goooo' 💀 ofc very cool and impressive, but frightening.
I did it! Let's go Act3

[tough bear]

Personally I'm loving it but there are some things to improve such as : gold drop, gear drop, passive tree tweaking, skills tweaking too

[ebon meadow]

For tree I can't really speak untill I try all clases and ascendancy but as for drop yea something need to be buffed not all of it but few things speatially crafting currency like exalts if they want us to craft early ,no need to buff gear drop the bases are good

[fierce moth]

Passive tree is good for me, all of my complains focus on poor currency and gears drop

Your passive tree is nothing without corresponding gears to support

🤭

[tough bear]

yes

[crisp onyx]

its honestly depressing how they didnt learn anything from last time when they messed with loot

[tough bear]

So in conclusion fat stacks of loot need to drop

currency items

[crisp onyx]

or they need to do what they promised

if loot drops it should be good

not necessarily loot quant but quality

so far your best chance for upgrade is gamble with gold

[tough bear]

quant for currency would be good and quality for items

[crisp onyx]

i have a hot take that currency are almost useless as of right now

its basically +1 rng chance

sell 10 items to have 1 item back

[fierce moth]

🤭 How are you get enough golds to buy gears or gameble gears if your current gears are poor so you can't deal enough damage?

[crisp onyx]

refarm campaign zones ofc

peak gameplay

[fierce moth]

Grinding the same map again and again is common when it's end game but it's odd and boring when it's campaign only

[crisp onyx]

wise words

looks like vision is still strong with ggg

sorry if i come as salty but i am indeed

was huge letdown so far, hope it will get better closer to release

[fierce moth]

I'll keep playing after they increase drop rate of currency and gears. I can't enjoy this game without that change

[ebon meadow]

u are not wrong though they took a step to make it better but the step it took was to small to deliver

more rare items even if they random (once again for sell for shard but not freaking transmutes ), also stuff like exalts and higher currency have to drop more if they want us to vraft from the beggining like LE does

as an "old" poe player selli9ng uniques for chance shards is a freaking crime

give uniques elling an ex shard

not a 10% of a lottery gambling for maybe getting something good on a good base

they dont feed us a sea of rares then make that if we selling rares or unique more profitable

[wind jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxduRuLSBhI
this funny as heck XD

[ebon meadow]

btw some tip time , act 3 first zone boss is aparently very profitable for farm , everything. Very fast done and reset to do again

also the winter witch in act 1 and 4 but has its issues with doing it fast (ok aparently for poe players 2-3 mints is slow)

[ebon meadow]

Holyyy havent seen Josh for some time , really good game review videos

[wind jolt]

i love him!!!

[ebon meadow]

his poe 1 review and the play was great

i like that he remains neutral but fair

also for a lot of other games to

guess thats why he is on 240k subs to , not a freaking sell out

the start of that fkn video is great , the face of "waith , theres more ?" is amazing

sometimes i hate beeing a poe player it must feel like we are sell outs and shielders for the game

Josh and Asmon i thank so much for showing the oposite since its not their main games but they are there every freaking release

we dont even ask but ggg still delivers more than we could think about

once again i have spend around 2k on the game but lets be real ...that was my decesion and was not pushed to me as i need to spend to play

i just dont like to look like a hobo when doiing red maps but u totally can , people forget that u can mule or the term for it

not just getting gems at start that u cant with a character u can actually hold items with those characters speatially things like currency

its a burden yes , it takes time yes but its doable

[ebon meadow]

i have open the wrong game with that screen shot xdd

[twilit mountain]

I feel that. I had a like 2 hour rant to my roommate earlier about how upset I was at the quality of the game. Combat is phenomenal, graphics are great, when you actually get lucky enough to get gear it's awesome. But everything else? Man...
Currency rates are horrible, nowhere near what they told us it was.
The story and lore of PoE2 are a massive disappointment, it honestly feels like it wasn't even intended to be a PoE game with how far removed it is from everything in PoE1.
The environments are so lackluster and boring, I can remember every zone of every act in PoE1 from the moment I started playing, but PoE2 had an entire act that's just "sand, red sand, temple, darker temple" and none of it feels alive.
The world never changes from anything you do, ever. PoE1 you start having a visible impact upon the world as early as act 2, but here? Nothing. Nothing at all.
The gearing process is horrible. Nobody wants to farm campaign zones, that gameplay should be dead and left in the past with the 20+ year old game that started it. Neither should the solution be "check vendors every 10 minutes", that's bad gameplay.
The Trials are horrid. I'm a lab runner in PoE1, I legitimately set time aside to farm lab for fun every league. This is a terrible, awful, unbalanced replacement based on two different mechanics that I REALLY dislike from PoE1.
Beyond even like gameplay mechanics and such, there's so much missing or not working. I've found multiple passive wheels that just don't work at all. Not even because their weapon or whatever is implemented, they're just broken and do nothing! But also, why are there so many passive points for things that don't exist? Why are there a billion passive nodes to get to anything? I can get a notable in PoE1 at like level 5, why are they so far here?? Why are there soooo many dead ones (flask effect and duration for example by Ranger, THERES NO FLASKS TO USE THAT WITH)??
I can keep going but I'm out of space to write.

[faint mauve]

the game is fine, the loot system is more faithful to d2 and ruthless. just start boss running at the highest tier you can handle and you'll drop some rares/uniques to progress

pick up magic gear for 1 - 2 affixes you need then decide to slam or not, also vendors are maybe abit too powerful as they also sell rare gear for gold

im on a yoloed slam titan and still cleared the trials on first try, its very possible to clear sanctum/ultimatum without being hit

im playing ssf but will move to hcssf as soon as i have a plan of attack lol

[twilit mountain]

No because those suck ass.

[faint mauve]

imagine learning and putting effort

[twilit mountain]

omfg

I did

I have played D2

I have played Ruthless

I am almost to maps in PoE2

I am doing FINE

That doesn't mean the GAME is fine

There are issues

Get your head out of your ass.

[faint mauve]

its not even a week yet lol

[hexed stream]

game has many issues, I agree with that, like the campaign is too damn long and its maps too damn big, and the drop too damn terrible, which will only deter new players even more, contrary to what poe2 dev intended to do
I'm fine with it coz I'm quite blessed with drops, but I won't pretend it's fine for everyone else

[vale onyx]

Yeah a beta not being complete or balanced, who would have thought?

[faint mauve]

loving the bigger maps and the more randomized layout, ill enter the area and try to find the boss then rinse and repeat just like d2

GGG will eventually make their adjustments, will be interesting for me to see how they balance the game they want to make with player onboarding

boss mechanics are clear and well telegraphed, i killed a few bosses with default attack for fun so far

if they manage to rope in players from souls likes/MH its gonna be a big win

ill stay around in the campaign to practice against bosses im weak at then start sending on hcssf

[vale onyx]

An EA/beta game is not meant to be for new players tho

[hexed stream]

yes, but I'm talking about design, not about EA

drop rate can tweak, but what you gonna do about the big map size and campaign length

balancing is never the issue, as I fully understand this is EA

[vale onyx]

I think you don’t

[hexed stream]

more than enough

more like you don't

[sand wigeon]

Yes, which is exactly why we should discuss the issues

Instead of saying everything is fine because we're basing our perception of a modern game off one that was made before many people existed

[hexed stream]

fanatics will keep pretending this is the most perfect piece of sh!t ever made anyway

on the other hand, anyone with half a functional brain, from famous poe streamers like ziz, tuna, fubgun, to casuals on the forum, all can see various issues that are not related to balancing, but more with design philosophy\

[vale onyx]

Of course it’s the most fun piece of shit I’ve played in months, god forbid people enjoying things

[twilit mountain]

You can enjoy things and still see the problems in it oml

[sand wigeon]

You can enjoy it. I've enjoyed it! But that doesn't mean it's good, and that doesn't mean people have to like it

Part of enjoying something SHOULD be recognizing its flaws

[hexed stream]

imagine only your opinion is the truth

god forbid anyone from doubting that

[vale onyx]

Yeah it has flaws that will get iron out eventually

[hexed stream]

eventually? like 100 years?

[sand wigeon]

I mean, maybe, maybe not. They definitely won't be unless the people making the game are told it has flaws.

[vale onyx]

It’s only being 3 days

[twilit mountain]

Part of making sure flaws get ironed out is FEEDBACK my guy

[sand wigeon]

And they've already nerfed things!

[vale onyx]

Like dude chill

GGG are humans

[hexed stream]

as I said, we're not talking about balancing, do you have a brain?

most people expect EA to have balancing issues, but not that many expect the game to have design philosophy issue

[sand wigeon]

Okay, minimap, knock it off

No need to be hostile

[vale onyx]

Balancing, design philosophy, same things

[hexed stream]

not like I'm trying to convert a flat earther, reddit and poe2 forum and poe2 discord are more than enough for ggg to see the complaints

[sand wigeon]

It's... Not. The design philosophy is distinctly different from the implementation and unintended balance issues.

Design philosophy dictates what they think should and shouldn't change, whether or not it's balanced or unbalanced.

[hexed stream]

simply put, design philosophy is the job of the leader, general direction and such
balancing is detailed execution, the job of the various staffs under that boss

[sand wigeon]

…No

It’s… not a matter of senior-ship. It’s just “we don’t think this needs changing because we did it on purpose.”

[hexed stream]

haven't played for a few hours already, currently planner warrior

[twilit mountain]

Maps aren't loading for me this is so shit. I get DCed every time I open a map that has a mechanic. So does my duo.

[hexed stream]

chaos dot is not an ailment, therefore controlled destruction shouldn't work with it right?

[twilit mountain]

Presumably? I have no idea

[tawny sand]

if anything, poe2 has made me want to get back into poe1 lol

[twilit mountain]

At least maps work in PoE1!

Map boss? Instance crash. Delirium? Instance crash. Breach? Instance crash. Ritual? Instance crash. Corruption? Instance crash. Only BASIC EMPTY maps are working.

[narrow token]

I kind of wish they had just upgraded the graphics and character models/animations for PoE1 since I barely played it.

[tawny sand]

i'm actually disappointed with the currency drop rate too tbh, i was hoping to be crafting but yeah i'm not really

[hexed stream]

they will not do that, cost too much but make little money

slowly and gradually maybe, but not as a grand single project

[tawny sand]

poe2 started as a poe1 upgrade but it got so big they made a sequel instead

[narrow token]

I know they won't. I just wish they did.

[hexed stream]

man, I'm sad to announce that I have to abolish my build idea entirely
chaos dot doesn't work with spell life leech from bloodmage, at all

I just wasted days for nothing

[narrow token]

It's funny. As much as I've enjoyed my time with PoE2, and though I do intend to continue playing it because I want to support good consumer practices and player-minded game development... all poe2 did was make me more interested in what LE is going to do.

[fierce moth]

And https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hahtbq/my_opinions_as_a_new_player_in_arpg_and_soullike/
@dusk valley Thank you 🙏

[hexed stream]

what LE is going to do is to wait for another 1 year to pump new content

[narrow token]

This doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[hexed stream]

well I'm not in a hurry to play new LE content anyway, been here for years, I know their speed

[fierce moth]

The most terrible thing is ea version on PC don't support controllers but this game is designed for controllers... I'm upset

[hexed stream]

it doesn't support? I thought it does

[narrow token]

It does. I played with one yesterday.

And I have a gulikit controller, not made by xbox or ps

[fierce moth]

? You can change the input to controller?

[narrow token]

You can't hotswap mid-game.

You have to change to controller before log-in.

[fierce moth]

None of my skills are available 😢

PS4 controller. Maybe it's not supported yet

[hexed stream]

now I either have to change my entire plan, or play a char from the beginning lol

[tawny sand]

you might have to bind them idk

same way you have to add gem skills to your keys

[fierce moth]

No options for binding keys

[tawny sand]

bind them from the gem menu

[fierce moth]

yeah no idea how to open gem menu... Press G don't work because it's different UI input

[tawny sand]

i wouldn't know either

[fierce moth]

Ranger is the best character to avoid most problems we're discovered to enjoy the game so far?

Melee characters are complaint by too many actions are needed, witch and sorceress maybe meet poor weapon issue, the most common weapon dropped randomly is crossbow

[twilit mountain]

Don't bother posting in that subreddit, it's all people glazing GGG.

[fierce moth]

I wonder where to post feedback so they don't miss yours and mine in overwhelming people

[tawny sand]

i guess the forums? idk

[hexed stream]

man, of all the planners, I think maxroll planner is still the best

[fierce moth]

I don't know why i can't find poe's support... Where is it

[twilit mountain]

.....

[fierce moth]

Ok, I hope they don't miss my post

@twilit mountain I shared your opinions and credit you https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3611498

[twilit mountain]

Thanks. I have more feedback to write up sometime after I get more experience in maps, as of right now they're a bit screwy so I need to try more before I commit to writing.

[hexed stream]

ok I don't need to give up my char anymore, I'll change to chaos bolt build

[tawny sand]

i feel like i'm getting more loot now

idk if they buffed it though, i saw some posts mention it

could just be me in act 3 now tho

[twilit mountain]

They have done some yeah

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3611705

[fierce moth]

Ok my problems solved 90% if GGG can solve these problems

[tame dome]

These are some fat changes. I was literarly just experiencing some frustration with the beetles in keth.

[fierce moth]

fat changes? I don't get it

[tame dome]

Good changes. :)

[twilit mountain]

Regal drop rate up thank GODS

[tame dome]

Yeah, I could defenitly use some more juicy regals. 🙏

[tawny sand]

👀

i just did the bog witch, i bet that boss is cancer for melee when she's flying

[twilit mountain]

Yup, my melee buds have said she sucks lol

[mental talon]

When I did that fight in regular and Cruel I just stood there until she stopped then stunned and killed her lol

[crisp onyx]

step in right direction. how does it feel in game?

[tawny sand]

lot better so far, but anything is better than what we had i guess

[twilit mountain]

Definitely better. Still think we could use a bit more currency, but rares are spawning more often and that is very helpful.

[crisp onyx]

maybe i'll try again after work to see for myself

[hexed stream]

can you do trial and not add point?

[twilit mountain]

Friend just pulled 4 regal, an exalt, a gcp, and 3 baubles in one map so I think they've definitely helped a bit.

Killed a couple rare mobs. That feels good.

[hexed stream]

lol, only now do I start doing the 1st trial, the loot is crazy

[hexed stream]

2nd trial is pretty much personal luck I guess, none out of 3 choices are good and you're dead

pretty tough

[tawny sand]

yeah i just started doing it

it's rough

guess i'll come back later

[hexed stream]

oh only 3 rooms? I thought need to do all 10

[twilit mountain]

3, 7, 10 iirc

[hexed stream]

that's for 2nd-4th ascendancy trials right?

[twilit mountain]

Preeeeetty sure. I might be wrong but I believe so.

[hexed stream]

how should I say, I think I got an easy boss, but this is too damn easy, the 3 trial rounds are ways more difficult than the boss itself

[twilit mountain]

Was it the chimera?

That thing can be cheesed with no effort

[hexed stream]

no, the beastlord

[twilit mountain]

Ah okay

[tawny sand]

is the main way to increase max mana through gear? i want to do mind over matter i think, but I don't have a lot of mana atm so waiting on it

and i didn't see a lot of passives for max mana, only regen really

[twilit mountain]

It seems like it. Friend/duo is running Archmage and hasn't seen almost any increased mana stuff.

[tawny sand]

dang

[hexed stream]

barely any life/mana nodes

[twilit mountain]

Mid map but pog divine drop

[fierce moth]

🤔 Ok I log in game again to see can I get any better loots

[hexed stream]

mirror when

this is very neat, and once again they mention me

[tawny sand]

oh it's coming later, the teleport between checkpoints

i was here trying to do it just now lol

[jade jackal]

I have yet to log in with the new patch. Can't wait

[twilit mountain]

Am I dumb, what does tier 2 mean here?

[tawny sand]

i have no idea

[desert jasper]

Think it was supposed to mean that it can't roll lower level mods
tier 5 being the best you can find

[twilit mountain]

Ahh. Gotcha. Weird way of representing that.

[desert jasper]

Aye

[fierce moth]

Just kill a boss, no rare still :(

(I can kill a boss without multiple deaths finally)

[hexed stream]

get to a new portal, exit game, come again

[crisp onyx]

so loot not fixed then

[muted parrot]

it's not funny anymore how often I need to FULLY explore a huge area just to find that ONE little exit I was missing 😒

[fierce moth]

Killed a rare enemy just now, no rare items, droped double magic items, fine

[muted parrot]

loot seems fixed for me, found two rares in the area + one from boss. But I just started today

[fierce moth]

better than just give me a normal item and a identify scroll

[tawny sand]

something about the update keeps making my game crash

but i don't get an error to report

it just ctds

[fierce moth]

I'm annoying for paths always blocked by enemies

Again, again, again... Why paths are so narrow

[twilit mountain]

decent map!

[muted parrot]

maybe they meant with 'bosses always drop one rare' only for the first time you do them 🤔 🥴

[hexed stream]

item description: coming soon

[twilit mountain]

Yeah there's a bunch like that

[muted parrot]

lore masters are busy

[fierce moth]

New players are bored

[muted parrot]

3 rare chests found, no rares just ~400 gold and some blues 🫠

[hexed stream]

some maps don't have waypoints? I thought they should all have

[muted parrot]

holy..I've never died more to a boss than to Jiquani. His hitboxes are so broken 💀

[tawny sand]

a few don't, i know one in act 3 didn't

[hexed stream]

which boss is jiquani again?

[muted parrot]

I probably mistook him for Blackjaw, a ||lion-like statue thingy with a greataxe|| and insane AoE. Can't beat him even as a ranged, also first boss to oneshot me ever even 2 lvls above area lvl.
Will come back to him after a while. First encounter I need to skip

[tawny sand]

rathbreaker is still the only one i've struggled with the most

my build is coming more in line now in act 3 finally so act 3 hasn't been too bad

i still want Mind over Matter, but i'm not finding the gear to support it

so been taking energy shield stuff atm

and mana regen to switch to mind over matter eventually

[muted parrot]

and Archmage later I guess? I wanted to do this route too but I felt too weak and was basically softlocked
Crazy, in my opinion Rathbreaker was one of the easiest bosses and I farmed him a few times😅

[tawny sand]

yeah archmage eventually when i can get it

oh man rath made me mald pretty bad, i died to him like 15 times

i'd get swarmed by the hyenas and just couldn't do much or get out of the way of stuff

my deeps was pretty bad to deal with the hyenas

[fierce moth]

Can you help me go through dreadought?

[tawny sand]

give me a sec and i can sure, drinking coffee atm and having a smoke

[fierce moth]

I see. Breaking time

I guess the last boss in the end of dreadought vanground

[tawny sand]

yeah, last boss of act 2

[tawny sand]

k i'm on

[fierce moth]

Then I want to kill them by both of us

[muted parrot]

yeah they often throw sooo many little enemies at you in boss fights, can be really tough without much AoE and/or defense

[tawny sand]

i've never partied in poe before, do i just teleport to the dreadnought waypoint?

[fierce moth]

I guess you can teleport where I am by clicking tele icon on my avator

[tawny sand]

oh, yeah i see that now

i gotcha

[muted parrot]

holy, how much + gemlvl is there o.O also nice mana roll 😮

[tawny sand]

oof 226 ping 😬

but it's okay lol

[fierce moth]

I can't handle this case indeed

[hexed stream]

Man, I miss those 100M dps build in poe1

My dps is barely above 2k

[fierce moth]

? What happens?

It's super epic...

Double huge flame fans blocks...

Alright the loot super poor still...Only a shield is rare

[muted parrot]

absolute chaos happened 😅 you have like 30% of the room to chill and attack^^
Yep, super epic but also super deadly

[tawny sand]

@fierce moth ok, i gotta go. Almost 7 am here, need to take care of some stuff.

[twilit mountain]

EST gamer

[tawny sand]

you did get two regal shards, not terrible tbh

[fierce moth]

? I'm confused where to go

[twilit mountain]

Just head down the big ramp on the side of the town

[fierce moth]

ohhh thanks

[twilit mountain]

np

[fierce moth]

sad, lose the free identify now

[tawny sand]

he's still in act 3

[tawny sand]

oh for this fight, the npc ally summons a bubble you need to stand in during the sand storm

it took me a while to notice it too though

whoever decided yellow bubble on a sand color attack is a goofhead

[muted parrot]

wow..first trial was a walk in the park compared to second one 💀
Tried two times but fail. 3 lvls above recommended lvl. Very unfun mechanic too.
Do we have to do trial of chaos or is it possible to find a key for the other trial for second ascension?
Also can't imagine to do this on hc >.<

[fierce moth]

I need to do the first tral now

[muted parrot]

you didn't do it before Act2 endboss? 😵

[fierce moth]

😂 lv.35 now but still being a sorceress

[shut ferry]

Its' jamanra

Kinda hard if you not get the ascen

[vagrant topaz]

How many floors of Sanctum do we need to do for the 1st trial ?

[hexed stream]

4 or 5 I can't remember, but it's so easy

same for the ultimatum one

I can't understand why the uproar on reddit complaining about them being difficult

[fierce moth]

Yeah quite hard hhhhh

[sand wigeon]

Dude I literally did not have the damage for sanctum

Like, I could not kill things in it without dying

[hexed stream]

have no idea
for me, the sanctum is mainly about not getting hit, and I did manage that, only got hit by the flame trap once

[sand wigeon]

The rooms with the two summoners surrounding various portals that spawn more enemies? Literally impossible because I couldn’t kill the enemies fast enough, so the room filled up

[tawny sand]

is poison ranger that bad? dang

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, it really ain’t good

I’m probs gunna swap into smth else

[tawny sand]

i saw someone playing a lightning ranger, idk what skill it was but it seemed alright i guess idk

[sand wigeon]

PF might be the worst ascendancy rn so I’m going Deadeye instead

Poison is still better than early game minions though

[sand wigeon]

Probably Mag Salvo, they nerfed it

[tawny sand]

ah, yeah i think that was it

[sand wigeon]

That’s what @twilit mountain is playing

[hexed stream]

or just maybe, I got lucky with both trials and got really easy ones

[sand wigeon]

It’s possible, whenever I tried solo I got railroaded into the summoner guys

So I enlisted friends to help me clear it since I’m not wasting hours being pointlessly frustrated over a game

[fierce moth]

holy god I passed with 78 honour left only

[sand wigeon]

Good job!

[tawny sand]

i didn't have issue doing the trial exactly, but i would lose all my honor to the boss at the end

was annoying

[sand wigeon]

The boss of the Sanctum trial one shot me from off screen at one point

[hexed stream]

but what worse now is idk what to do with my blood mage, it's so awkward now

I have discovered 1 thing with boss in poe2, don't ever stay offscreen

[sand wigeon]

Yeah the game doesn’t have enough skills

And most of the ones it does have don’t work with most of the supports or are hardcoded to only combo with other specific skills

[hexed stream]

the way I do boss now is literally the same way I do boss in elden ring

[twilit mountain]

I LOVE MAGSALV
I LOVE NUKING RARES ON SPAWN
I LOVE BURSTING 1/4 BOSS HEALTH IN SECONDS
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[hexed stream]

yeah, till now only very few builds are considered online

the rest struggle thru campaign

[tawny sand]

it took a while for my spark build to feel good

but i think a lot of it was the drops were bad too

[sand wigeon]

My weapons are good, is the sad thing

I have +3 to my skill levels

[hexed stream]

and mind you I have very decent gears, double % damage +3 skill ranks cast speed wand, double % damage +1 spell rank cast speed focus, still feel mediocre

it's the right combo that matters

[twilit mountain]

I just LA'd til 52 then got MagSalvo and started rampin

[sand wigeon]

Oh yeah I don’t het any of that on my gear

[hexed stream]

to make it worse, 2 best weapon skills of witch class are not in game yet

[sand wigeon]

The only thing I get is +level

[hexed stream]

the more I understand poe2, the more I see that at current state, chaos is the wrong way to go

maybe the 3rd ascendancy of witch will support that, but definitely not blood mage

the best chaos skills are mostly dot

[vagrant topaz]

Floors!?!
Not rooms?

[hexed stream]

ah, only 1 floor

[hexed stream]

same reaction when I saw 1/10 ultimatum lol

turned out only 3/10 and done

I kinda see this blood mage as an ascendancy with minimum dps check, below which you're just gonna kill yourself even with the spell leech node

I'm gonna farm gold and shift my entire build to physical and see how
worst case I'll just become pit poor

[fierce moth]

Good, my pc just restart itself when I'm put a uncut support gem to my stash

[hexed stream]

😂

[fierce moth]

OH MY GOD

I need more golds at first

[hexed stream]

hopefully by the time I complete normal, I will have enough gold to completely respec from chaos to physical

[maiden widget]

Spark fell off a cliff at mid A2 for me

Still trying to get archmage spark to function though

[maiden widget]

[ebon meadow]

Someone likes laying down

[rose viper]

huh

where can u see how many times you've died?

[tawny sand]

/deaths in chat

i really don't know why you're struggling more than me kirra, we seem to be doing similar stuff

i did notice you pass on loot when we were partied together, there was a yellow shield that drop you didn't get. You can disenchant items for currency

unless you went back and got it, idk

i didn't take any of the boss's loot

[viral galleon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3611705

Future patch will make it easier to roll out of getting trapped and you'll be able to teleport between checkpoints to make backtracking easier

[hexed stream]

do you guys think unleash and spell echo work on the same spell

[fierce moth]

Do you play any action games or any soul-like action games or be familiar with poe? None of them I have.
Yeah, I picked it up

[tawny sand]

i don't really like souls games so idk

lies of p was okay i guess, but i was bad at parrying

and that game kind of demands you parry well i think

[blissful token]

Lies of P

[ebon meadow]

It should do

Spell echo can be a bit ifi though without cast speed it will lock u in longer animation

[hexed stream]

bone storm is already long animation enough, being a channel skill, maybe I can endure it

[ebon meadow]

It's easier to cancel it to now when u get in bad situation

[hexed stream]

for a skill firing multiple projectiles, fork or chain better?

[narrow token]

I'd guess chain?

[viral galleon]

If it's already firing a lot of projectiles why do you want either?

[hexed stream]

coz this, free fork or chain depending on where I put my ring

but I never play a build with many proj in poe1 before so I don't know which to choose

[fierce moth]

🙃 I'm sad... Lose a lesser jeweller's orb because the suuround of enemies just now

I don't like and I don't know why GGG suppose to refresh loots after the death

[hexed stream]

prepare you for mapping

[fierce moth]

🙃 I need to ask for help with passing jungle ruins

The save point just one except the waypoint, then a super long way I need to pass and super easy be slain by enemies

[muted parrot]

after several attempts I finally beat trial of chaos..I hope I don't have to do this ever again 🤮
Even sanctum which I didn't like in PoE1 was much more enjoyable than this

[fierce moth]

I don't get why spark's damage still super weak...
DPS: 282 Level: 10
Support gems: Arcane tempo, controlled destruction and conduction

50% increase spell damage from my gears

[tawny sand]

i would drop the node "electric amplification" unless you have a way to apply exposure

and maybe the 2 lightning pen nodes leading to it

and then head for "all natural"

it'll take you a few levels to get to all natural tho, its to the left a ways

[hexed stream]

finally done with my planner, potentially 100% crit chance build

[fierce moth]

Avoid to surround by enemies in jungle ruins is too tough

All deaths here is because of this thing

Gorillas and scarabs always smash me with random directions then another enemies close to me and block my path, good another death is created

Ok the other death is out quickly

Why are they not have this issue when they're passing this area :(

[tawny sand]

why aren't you aiming at the apes behind you?

[fierce moth]

I need to aim forward to move

[tawny sand]

oh, you're not on wasd

[hexed stream]

not playing wasd is putting yourself at disadvantage

they are balancing this game with wasd and controller in mind

at least for now

[tawny sand]

could try controller, but idk how to bring up the gems menu like you had the issue with earlier

[fierce moth]

My fingers have no idea how to press diection keys and skill keys at the same time so I have to give up this action

[tawny sand]

Try this "Console players should open up their character menu and tab over to the Skills tab. In this screen, your currently-equipped Skill Gems are listed in separate rows with at least two Support Gem slots to their right."

https://gamerant.com/path-of-exile-2-rebind-skills-bind-gems-equip-new-skill-gem-poe-2/

[hexed stream]

that's weird, every shooter and rpg over the shoulder game is wasd, you never play such games before?

really need to train for 5min and you will get used to it

[tawny sand]

also this https://gamesfuze.com/guides/path-of-exile-2-how-to-set-skill-key-binds-on-controller/

if you plan to try controller again

[fierce moth]

Yeah I can't do this step so further steps are no sense

Don't understand why ggg showed a interaction video with 吉田修平 but they don't allow us to use ps4 controller to play

Wait, I think a good idea to test. Create a new character then I know everything

[crisp onyx]

tried new loot

yeah, fixed

[tawny sand]

oh yeah could try doing the tutorial again

just make sure it's not disabled in options

[fierce moth]

hhhhhh figure it out.
Press the black bar for ps4 controllers

Nice, Don't need to use keyboard and mouse anymore

[tawny sand]

👍

[gilded elm]

Sheesh, think I slept for a whole day with PoE2 open on my Steam Deck lol

[fierce moth]

Holg god, I can enjoy poe 2 finally hhhh

[fierce moth]

Nice, you have a good rest

[gilded elm]

Not nice! I didn't finish Act 3 yet lol

[fierce moth]

I just begin act 3 not for long time

[tawny sand]

got this, but i don't have any currency to make it a rare yet lol

[gilded elm]

• skill levels likely to be bigger impact

since %increased is additive with other sources of "increased"

[tawny sand]

oh okay

[gilded elm]

The cast speed is nice though

[tawny sand]

still, better than my current 32% increased spell damage wand

though my current wand has other useful stats so

[gilded elm]

Could be, be careful dropping wand for a staff though if you use a shield

[tawny sand]

oh i don't use a staff anymore

i mean i have on in my secondary rn cause i was testing out the difference cause the wand/shield combo is less damage but more mana and es

oh btw byteflux, they had a loot increase patch a while ago

it's pretty nice now

[gilded elm]

oh nice

[tawny sand]

let me find the forum link

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3611705

some other stuff coming as well

[gilded elm]

LOL gemcutters drop rates were increased 5x and their effectiveness increased also by 5x, so that's basically a super giga massive increase on prisms lol

makes me wonder how they could've been so heavily undertuned for so long during the closed beta testing

[fierce moth]

👀 Is it? I don't have cast speed bonus unfortunately and I don't have currency to turn it rare too

[tawny sand]

yo that's cool you get to see your character with controller

i want that for keyboard

[gilded elm]

Compard to %Increased? I think so, but it probably depends how much %Increased you have in your skill tree.

%Increased is additive in PoE and PoE2 (I think), same as Last Epoch. "More" is multitplicative, so having more and more additive is less effective.

Spell damage is flat and often scales better with gem levels

[fierce moth]

Holy god guys, huge difference for keyboard & mouse and controller... The delay for km is much more than controller... Too happy for act everything immediately after press corresponding buttons

(of course, it's relevant to which keyboard you using too, mine is sucks)

[fierce moth]

This game born with controllers surely

[hexed stream]

now I'm so dirt poor I need to pick up every single item to sell for gold to respec

[gilded elm]

That's what I've already been doing the whole game lol

Pick up economical blue items to sell

Stuff that isn't too big to hold in inventory lol

[hazy plinth]

Can you get skill level on bows ? Or only staff/wands

[gilded elm]

I see people going to flat damage on martial weapons/bows

[desert jasper]

You can get + melee skills on martial weapons so I wouldn't be surprised if bows had similar
but probably better to go for flat dmg

[fierce moth]

? Staff/wands can't have a socket

But focus can

[tawny sand]

yeah i figured with the way mechanics are wasd/controller is the way to go really. lot of things that chase you around

[tawny sand]

yeah, staff/wand can't have a socket

why idk

[fierce moth]

The experience is x100 better and smoother after playing with controller

[gilded elm]

Controller experience is good, except for inventory management lol

[fierce moth]

Hah I don't need to spend two days on act 1 last boss if i know that earlier...

[hexed stream]

my god, finally got access to meta gem, I'm going crazy now

[vagrant topaz]

I guess Quater Staff is a different beast then

[gilded elm]

Yeah Quarterstaff is a martial weapon I think

For monk

[hexed stream]

quarterstaff is melee

[gilded elm]

Obviously any class can use it, but I mean it's mainly for monk

Damn, I didn't progress much since I slept all day. I still fail the DPS check against Mektul haha

Feels bad, gotta change some stuff up

The top right number in boss health is how much damage you've done total, correct?

Remember when D4 launched? I feel like we barely got any hotfixes/patches in the first couple weeks of release. We still don't get any major hotfixes/patches in the first couple weeks of a new season lol

[hexed stream]

man, yeah, the speed of reaction revives lots of trust in me now

[gilded elm]

Yup

There's also the fact that GGG released PoE2 on a Saturday morning where they live and have been constantly monitoring and rolling out hotfixes since then

Whenever Blizzard puts out an update on a Friday, there's 0 communication and 0 hotfixes until Tuesday

[desert jasper]

It's not the total amount of dmg you've done

It does reset to 0 if you don't do dmg for some time

[gilded elm]

Oh so it is damage over a period of time, but it's not exactly DPS either

[desert jasper]

But if you keep up constant dmg then yes, it's how much total

[gilded elm]

That seems... kinda weird but okay I guess

Seems like DPS would be more useful

[desert jasper]

Don't think they'd want just a dps meter tbh

[gilded elm]

As it stands though, the only thing that number really indicates is how much burst or sustained damage you can do... which I don't know how useful that in itself is

Knowing how much burst damage you have to do to phase a boss I guess can be useful a bit

[desert jasper]

I've used it to kinda keep track of how much I need to deal to stun some bosses

[tawny sand]

oh wow mektul is just a dps check huh

[gilded elm]

Yep

It's an actually hard (as in, forced) DPS check

[tawny sand]

yeah

i was close, but i don't think i can pull it off

[gilded elm]

There's no endless series of mechanics you can just perform to lengthen the fight besides CC/stun etc, you either kill him in time or you just die

[tawny sand]

mana tempest requires me to stand still which i don't really have the option to on this fight

[gilded elm]

Technically the lava still flows with CCs so I guess even that doesn't really count

[tawny sand]

cool fight tho

[gilded elm]

Yeah I do like it

I would rather have a hard DPS check like that instead of going into the next level of content and getting totally demolished

The game is basically telling you that you need to do X amount of DPS before you're ready to move on

Every unique fight has been so good IMO

They are actually unique unlike in PoE1 lol

[tawny sand]

i like the poe1 fights for the most part

it just relies on the same cycle of phases a lot

like the same style

[gilded elm]

What they seem to have done in PoE2 is, they basically made rare monsters the equivalent of unique monsters in PoE1

[tawny sand]

mana siphon my bane

[gilded elm]

And unique monsters in PoE2 are truly unique

[tawny sand]

these monsters be playing poe1 while i'm over here moving at poe2 speed

[gilded elm]

Yeah just gotta stay close to the monster to avoid getting siphoned, it's an anti-range mod

[tawny sand]

ohhhhh, you stay close to it?

[gilded elm]

Yeah the clear area inside the blue area is safe

[tawny sand]

i thought the whole bubble did it

omg i never knew

[gilded elm]

Works the same way as mana siphon in Poe1

It's a donut

[tawny sand]

i only played poe1 a few times

i think the last time i played was delve

[hexed stream]

now I can confirm, bonestorm is the skill born for blood mage, out of 20 proj, each has its own crit and seems to spawn multiple life orbs within 1 cast

[gilded elm]

It's interesting that crit-per-cast vs crit-per-proj was discussed in the most recent Ziz interview with Jonathan. I think it was left up in the air, but basically Jonathan was saying he doesn't know which would be better.

tbh I'm not sure either

[hexed stream]

from what I observe with bonestorm, crit per proj has been chosen

[gilded elm]

Nah that was already the way it was

It was just not followed up on in terms of whether they actually made a decision or had an internal discussion about it in the context of the recent interview, the current behavior is just what they settled on from the beginning

[fierce moth]

Holy god. This is the most useful item so far

[gilded elm]

I think D4 works the other way... either all your proj's crit, or none of them do

I don't remember

It might also be skill-dependent in D4's case

[tawny sand]

i use that one too

there's one for bleedign as well

i feel like charms don't trigger a lot though, idk

[gilded elm]

Yeah, poison charm good for act 3

Or chaos resistance

[tawny sand]

i actually just got a chaos resist ring

idk how rare those are

[gilded elm]

I only got a single amethyst ring so far as well

In act 3 right now

Maybe they start dropping more in act 3 because of all the poison damage lol

I wish you could force Flame Wall to cast horizontally, that works better for my playstyle where i kite the enemy

[hexed stream]

I swear poe2 passive tree is much easier to work with than d4 paragon board

[tawny sand]

the paragon board is kind of clunky yeah

[gilded elm]

Probably because paragon boards are hard to conceptualize when you only see 1 board at a time

And how you path to each board can vary drastically

[fierce moth]

My yarn sleeps well instead hhh

@south gust Can I ask what reason bring you become a fan of marked-ghost-type character?
Your avatar looks interesting always 🤔

[south gust]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice.

[fierce moth]

Hhhhhh I noticed it since I'm active in this server

You'll change your avatars after a while but still the same type

Interested in listening the behind

Oh yeah you're the only one in existing EHG members who live here that avatars are changed the most.

[south gust]

So the base avatar will always remain the same. It's Guardsman Wick from the Ruined Era. it's the extra details that will change.
Do you have any guesses who it is right now?

[tawny sand]

ayo?

[viral galleon]

Intredasting

[hexed stream]

da heck is this drowned city map, I'm here for half an hour already

[narrow token]

Act 3?

Yo where's poison resist? This act is crazy.

[muted parrot]

poison = chaos damage in PoE1, so I guess it's the same in PoE2. I had no issue with poison so far (soon end of Act3) with 0 chaos res 🤔

[fierce moth]

Holy god. This is the best gift for a ligthning build...

[fierce moth]

No idea

[tawny sand]

dude it's so big

the drowned city took me forever

[hexed stream]

lucky I'm done with it, got waypoints of 2 connected maps

guess I'll go to sleep, tmr complete act 3

[fierce moth]

Are you free now? I suppose i still need help :(

Now jungle ruins is the most impressive map for me... the best example about bad experience because too less savepoints

I guess the boss in this area is the target of main quest

[gilded elm]

They are making it so you can teleport to any previously discovered checkpoint, soon I think

lmao I love it when quin dies

btw if you know 100% you are going to die, you can Esc -> Respawn at Checkpoint

[tawny sand]

oh sorry not right now

i just got off the game for a bit

have to get groceries :/

[fierce moth]

I don't get why GGG can't build an special area for this boss... Mix it with another random mods increase the difficulty a lot

[muted parrot]

I think open world bosses are fun but nearly all of them have a dedicated arena. I'd like them to roam around the map so you never know when you encounter them..sounds fun to me 😅

[gilded elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZ2O4MDkn0 I am sooo hyped for this holy

WH40k part of the Secret Level gaming-inspired animated anthology that Amazon is making

whoa lol

Oh cool, Keanu Reeves doing the Armored Core part of Secret Level https://youtu.be/W9POQ2WW1wo

[fierce moth]

😱 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JQ0hClEhs0 He posted a stormweaver video guide too.

😂 Sigh... Yeah this is the truth unfortunately...

Oh, coldweaver version. I still want to follow its name, stormweaver 🫡

[narrow token]

Storms can be pretty cold

[gilded elm]

Or hot

[narrow token]

I notice there's no blizzard spell in LE or Poe2. Interesting

[gilded elm]

Was there one in PoE1? I didn't really do much cold stuff

Eye of Winter (at least in PoE1) is like Frozen Orb in D2, if I remember

[fierce moth]

I guess you're finding this one or...This one

[narrow token]

Nope

[gilded elm]

They did port Firestorm to PoE2 at least https://poe2db.tw/Firestorm

Maybe could cold convert that somehow and get something that's basically like Blizzard

[narrow token]

In my mind blizzard is a spell that summons cold winds, sometimes a storm of hail and snow.

[gilded elm]

I'm just thinking of how it works in D2 and D4

[narrow token]

Idk how damage type conversions work in PoE2

[gilded elm]

Basically just falling bolts if I remember

Or hail storm

[narrow token]

I never played d2

Thank goodness

[gilded elm]

D4's Blizzard and D2's are very similar if I remember

Falling bolts of ice

[fierce moth]

I'm just thinking of why runemaster don't have similar spells

[gilded elm]

or hail you could say

[narrow token]

First time I ever saw the spell was in Pokémon 25+ years ago

[narrow token]

Runemaster is weird

[fierce moth]

Then it's done. I'm too young

[narrow token]

Too young for what

[ebon meadow]

Can't u do fire rain and convert it to cold XD ?

[narrow token]

Never made a cold spellcaster b4. I wish d4 had launched with all the d3 classes, plus 2 or 3.more

[gilded elm]

That's what I was saying, I bet there's even cosmetic MTX in PoE1 that makes your fire storm look like cold too

Which will eventually get added to PoE2

[narrow token]

I have to pay for it? Pass

[gilded elm]

Well, only to make it look different yeah

That's where PoE makes a lot of money

Skill effect MTX

But it's 100% cosmetic

[ebon meadow]

Poe cold spells is my favourite archytipe,speatially the shattering sound

[fierce moth]

I'm too young to discuss anything nostalgic games

[ebon meadow]

Most beautiful sound in any game

[narrow token]

I see that. Just means I won't get what I want. It's fine

[gilded elm]

Yeah I get it, looks are important to playing out the class fantasy. 100% understand

[narrow token]

Indeed

[ebon meadow]

There's a few good looking cold spell skills in Poe they might not all be in PoE2 for now though

[narrow token]

LE is the only game that lets me play the archetype of a battle mage exactly the way I always envisioned it

[gilded elm]

This is one of the things LE does pretty good IMO, conversion does actually change skill effects I think

[ebon meadow]

Yea it does visually

It's very nice

[narrow token]

Spellblade is my favorite

[gilded elm]

It's definitely super weird in any of my PoE1 builds when I do 100% lightning damage or something but my skills make it look like I do fire damage lol

[narrow token]

Just needs cooler animations. The vfx is mostly fine

[ebon meadow]

I like the d3 conversion and having different hydras depending on what type of damage u were using

[narrow token]

Me too

[gilded elm]

I remember Arcane Hydras looking the coolest

[narrow token]

D3 for me is miles ahead of its sequel

Not carrying Demon Hunter forward was disappointing

Also monk

[gilded elm]

I still prefer D4 over D3, I think D3 suffers from a similar issue that D2 suffered from which is that builds are more catered than not. D3's endgame builds were almost entirely based around set gear which I didn't particularly like, same as D2 which is almost entirely based on 2-3 differnet runewords.

[fierce moth]

I even don't have 25 years old

[ebon meadow]

Arpgs is full of boomers it's fine

[narrow token]

I'm talking specifically about class offerings and skill runes when I talk about d3

[ebon meadow]

I m 33

[narrow token]

I'm only 36

Not old yet

[ebon meadow]

Last season of D3 was amazing lol it's sad they haven't done that power crip before

[narrow token]

I think you cross the threshold into old when you hit 50

[ebon meadow]

I mean we still get hype about video games on our age

It's a big jump for generations

[gilded elm]

To me, Grim Dawn feels like the "true" successor to D2, I just wish it had a modern port with updated visuals.

[fierce moth]

I'm sure Byte is over 30 due to his rich experience in ARPG

[gilded elm]

I am like 36 or 37, I don't remember anymore lol

[ebon meadow]

XD

[gilded elm]

My birthday is on the 13th this month haha

Feeling old 😦

[ebon meadow]

I m not exactly 100% sure but one of Zizs mods apparently like 60

It might be a very long term meme

[tawny sand]

I don't keep up with my age either

i have to check the calander and do math

[ebon meadow]

And I have played heavy PvP game with people around 50

[gilded elm]

Yeah... I used to think it was weird not knowing my exact age, but it just feels more natural and acceptable now lol

It's easier when you're younger, but you just stop caring after a while.

[narrow token]

I never played grim dawn. It looked too old by the time I got really interested in arpgs. 😦

[ebon meadow]

Grim is good to play at least once

[gilded elm]

There is a drag-and-drop upscaled texture pack you can download and drop into the game folder, but it's definitely not going to be a massive improvement.

[ebon meadow]

All community feedback that it's very slow without mods

[tawny sand]

It's faster than PoE2

[fierce moth]

Yeah I can say last epoch just appear in my life in a perfect time

[gilded elm]

Grim Dawn definitely feels better to play at 1.25x speed IMO

[ebon meadow]

Also wolcen can be fun to do campaign it's very good

[narrow token]

Its not just the textures, it's the shaders, the lighting

[tawny sand]

I think wolcen is dead now

[ebon meadow]

It is

[gilded elm]

I tried to finish the Wolcen campaign, something about movement/combat just felt very janky

[ebon meadow]

It's has been since begining ,the fact that u still run in to silly bugs

[gilded elm]

That's one of the easier things to resolve with ReShade fortunately.

[narrow token]

If wolcen was free I'd try it

[gilded elm]

It usually goes on sale and ends up being $5 I think, unless they completely removed it from the store

I'd say for $5 though, maybe not a bad value for single player

[narrow token]

But TLI is free and it didn't hook me. So ymmv

[gilded elm]

TLI seems marred by its aesthetics, IMO

Fundamentally the game is like a watered down PoE1 (in a good way), but the visuals are just... eh

[narrow token]

I'm just not sure what I'm playing

The archetypes are just confusing to me.

[gilded elm]

It's meant to be mostly open-ended like PoE I think

[narrow token]

Yeah I prefer hard classes. Because there's never enough of a theme in open ended class games to make what I really want. At least visually

[gilded elm]

Having too much choice is definitely a proven bad thing for a lot of people, absolutely.

There is a lot of value in rigid class design

[narrow token]

I played Poe2 and had some enjoyment at least. I just wish the skills weren't tied to weapons. I'd love to be able to use some of those skills with swords

[gilded elm]

Are swords even in PoE2 yet?

[narrow token]

Whenever those come out ofc

[gilded elm]

I think they'll get added with Duelist maybe

Or Marauder

The lack of melee weapon choices is a very common complaint right now though

[narrow token]

It's difficult to play in melee range

[gilded elm]

I think melee classes should have an easy/cheap built-in source of knockback

Would alleviate a lot of their problems I think

Melee seems to be disproportionately punished by the fact that it has to... well, be in melee range.

[narrow token]

I fought a boss that created fire aoe all around him, which meant that being in melee range just killed me

[gilded elm]

And you're more likely to just get chain stunned in melee range from trash mobs

[narrow token]

I basically had to fight the boss as a caster. It wasn't fun

[narrow token]

That has accounted for so many of my deaths. In addition to getting trapped.

[gilded elm]

Yeah. Getting trapped as melee seems to mostly be a symptom of getting stun locked by 1 or 2 mobs while the rest surround you

[narrow token]

Water hags are a plague

[gilded elm]

That's where some built-in knockback (which spell casters have easy access to) would be handy I think, for melee

[narrow token]

Monk has one, but it barely works the way you'd expect or want it to.

Or I should say quarterstaff has one

[gilded elm]

Life's been hard for warriors haha

[desert jasper]

Started another character with a friend today
It feels a lot harder
boss attacks being unpredictable where it goes
more hp, dmg

[gilded elm]

I heard players collide with other players too, that sounds really dumb haha

[desert jasper]

Only got the ring from lachdanan or whatever but it's too late and need to sleep
and yes, there is player collision that also affects rolling

[gilded elm]

Imagine playing 6 person co-op and getting body blocked to your death haha

[desert jasper]

Also the revival of another player isn't happening in boss fights
because even the first one takes ages

don't even want to think of 2nd rev or 3rd because apparently they take even longer

Could possibly happen with more than 2 players, if one could hold aggro

[narrow token]

GGG: "How can we make the multiplayer experience as aggravating as possible? Wait, I GOT IT! We make players collide with each other! It's BRILLIANT!"

[muted parrot]

beating new bosses first try even if it was tough is a nice feeling! Not like beating a boss in a true soulslike but nice 👍
I think I'm done with Act3 and I loved it so much, level designers really went nuts at the black chambers 😵
Still running around with a lvl 22 weapon but fully upgraded

[gilded elm]

I'm still trying to get my build improved enough to kill Mektul in Act 3, though I guess Mektul isn't actually required to clear Act 3

[narrow token]

I'm in that aztec city with all the brown poison/mushroom stuff.

I don't like it.

[gilded elm]

Next to the encampment? Yeah I just finished that part haha

[muted parrot]

ohh this one..are you melee? I'm Deadeye and I was like: How are you supposed to do this as Melee class?

[gilded elm]

I'm a sorc, but Mektul is still tough for me because my DPS isn't high enough. The lava will kill me before I can kill him

[narrow token]

Yes. It's not been an enjoyable experience so far.

[desert jasper]

oh
can't wait to get to act3 on my warrior

[muted parrot]

my condolences 😞

[desert jasper]

But that's tomorrow
for it's late and I need sleep

[muted parrot]

very cool boss but I knew before going into the fight that it's gonna be a ||timed|| boss just by looking at the arena^^

[muted parrot]

rest well nub

[gilded elm]

My first time I was praying the arena back would be infinitely expanding haha

[desert jasper]

cheers

[muted parrot]

😅

[gilded elm]

I hope not, they should keep it just the way it is. It's a good fight and it serves as a DPS check

[muted parrot]

yeah I don't think they'd do that^^

[tame dome]

Funny you should mention this, as I needed some help with the act I boss and ended up with a four man group total; died at one point and while two people were DPSing him someone was actually able to revive me partway through the fight. You'll very likely need at least three people to do something like this though. Having four people blast that buffon at the same time was pretty fun, even with all the extra health he had.

[narrow token]

Yes thank god.

[tame dome]

O.o

[narrow token]

Open portal, click portal, loading screen, freeze during loading screen. Wait a long time because the whole PC is frozen, then blue screen.

[gilded elm]

Heard this happening to a lot of people

I'm surprised by how well the game has been running for me, only had one issue which actually required me to recraft a skill gem, like somehow bricked my old skill gem lol

[narrow token]

It's been my ONLY technical issue. Otherwise the game runs great.

[gilded elm]

Utzaal ||in the past|| looks so amazing, I wonder how much of it is inspired by Maori culture.

[muted parrot]

yessss it was sooo nice I love the theme because it's so unique

[gilded elm]

I guess it's closer to ancient polynesian architecture (which Maori descend from IIRC), with Karui themes more closely resembling Maori stuff

[muted parrot]

Act 3 in general was the best in terms of visuals of the areas to me. I really was bored of Act 2 because just sand

[gilded elm]

It's too bad they didn't show us what Vastiri was like before it turned into a desert

Seems like a missed opportunity there considering we already played through Vastiri in PoE1 lol

[viral galleon]

... vaal is Aztec themed though

[gilded elm]

I'm no architectural expert, but some ancient polynesian architecture strongly resembles aztec architecture, or vice versa (whichever came first)

[narrow token]

Time travel shenanigans would be cool. But I know folks get all bent out of shape over it. I like traveling to different eras in games.

[viral galleon]

Sure, but the human sacrifice rituals, cutting out someone's heart etc is very aztec

[gilded elm]

Yeah

Anything that's Karui is 100% Maori inspired though for sure, can see Vaal stuff being more Aztec-inspired

Also Maori is a fairly new culture comparatively, only 700 or so years old, despite descending from a more ancient polynesian culture

[viral galleon]

I also don't think they'd intentionally pull from 2 peoples from nz especially given that they have each act focus on a different culture

[gilded elm]

Maori def weren't building stone pyramids to my knowledge, though ancient polynesians seemingly were. Not quite as known for that as the Aztec though

[keen wind]

The Vaal architect and some other names also scream Aztec, but I hadn't really given Polynesia much of a thought here

[gilded elm]

No, you're right. Vaal naming is 100% Aztec/Mayan vibes

Karui naming is Maori for sure

[viral galleon]

From my knowledge

Ezomytes are celt/gaelic/germanic druids, eternal empire is Rome (they show up a bit in act 1)
The maraketh are persian/Mongolian/other steppe nomad/middle eastern area of Asia
Vaal are Aztec
Karui are Maori
Spoilers ||act 5 is apparently been shown to be oriath in the art book and they feel byzantine||

No idea about kalguur because there's not enough about them I think.

[gilded elm]

I know Aztec has funky names like Quetzalcoatl, I know this because I played a lot of Final Fantasy decades ago. Very similar to many names you find throughout Vaal culture.

[viral galleon]

Yeah

I'll still never get over Alva valai's name

[gilded elm]

Kalguur seems more "modern" as they seem to be somewhat known for explosives lol

[viral galleon]

And kingsmarch yeah

[keen wind]

Well, there's the explosives room in the Temple of Atzoatl

[viral galleon]

Did you know that you can rearrange the letters in alva valai, you'd get vaal, I vaal

[gilded elm]

I guess that means she ||really is of Vaal blood based on her sacrifice working||

[viral galleon]

That's always been the case that's how she could do incursion league

[gilded elm]

Yeah but it's newer to me because I hate incursion and never do them lmao

[viral galleon]

Well, incursion league is time travel.

[gilded elm]

where Jun, that's my homie

[viral galleon]

Juns story is over though.

[gilded elm]

No, bring back Syndicate, kill some more people, make new story 😡

[viral galleon]

I'd be cool with having einhar back

[gilded elm]

and Cassia

I thought Blight was supposed to be coming to PoE2, if it does I wonder what role it will fulfill now that annoints are something else

[viral galleon]

They'd need new rewards

[muted parrot]

finally a new bow
lvl 22 one carried me till lvl 50 😅 it won't be sold, get's a special place in my stash^^

[gilded elm]

That's a lot of flat damage, sheesh

Nice bow

[muted parrot]

oh god please no blight, the performance is killing my PC in PoE1 💀

[gilded elm]

Haha

Vulkan made all my Blight performance issues go away magically somehow

[muted parrot]

well, double lightning runes in both 👍

[tame dome]

Was blight the tower defence thing? No way in hell that'd work in PoE2 with monsters as they are now.

[gilded elm]

Blight is happening in PoE2, just don't know when

[muted parrot]

Vulkan made the game crash for me :/

[gilded elm]

Heard this happens for some, really strange as it's the only way I can play PoE1 without shader stutters

And my FPS goes to shit in Blight when using DX11 or DX12, only when using Vulkan does my FPS remain stable and consistent in Blight

[muted parrot]

yeah, depends on setup I guess. Hard to pinpoint what's exactly causing it

[gilded elm]

Looks like there's already Blight-related assets in the PoE2 game client.

https://poe2db.tw/Blighted_Incubator

[muted parrot]

yep..that's why I ignore blight mostly even though I like the loot of blighted maps especially early on in the league

[gilded elm]

Blight is actually so chill and fun if you can get it to not lag

Maybe isn't the best divs per hour, but it is relaxing I find

[muted parrot]

I heard that so many times but to me it's stressful 😬

[gilded elm]

It can be if you giga juice maps and also have a passive tree that makes your Blight encounters ridiculously hard as well

I tend to try to chill in lower tier Blight maps

[muted parrot]

I'm not a juicer, I just don't like being swarmed and manage 360 degree circle every second even though I know what towers are strong (mainly doing frost until lvl 3 and Scout Minions)

[gilded elm]

Oh 100%, some maps are just atrocious for Blight

If I specifically wanna do Blight content, I will usually only do specific maps

Toxic Sewer and Underground Sea are big favorites for me

[muted parrot]

yeah maps without a huge open area are nice. Best to have only two big lanes to defend

[gilded elm]

Yep, 2 lanes is like the most ideal scenario, but in case that goes wrong, map layouts with massive choke points is the next best thing.

[muted parrot]

little doorways are nice yep and it's almost like cheating if in those doorways are towers so they block enemies 😅
Technically you could also run frost wall but I don't like the idea of having different setups for different content

[gilded elm]

There is a Frost Prison tower upgrade for level 4 cold towers, found those to be decent. Another big thing is never upgrade the Phys tower above level 3, because at level 3 it's basically a perma stun

[muted parrot]

Imo frost lvl 3 is enough to keep enemies away but depends on how much damage you do, if personal damage and clear is good enough then only frost is fine.
But I usually need scout towers to support me with dps so frost stays at lvl3

[gilded elm]

Yeah Cold Tower at 3 is the conventional wisdom

Rest are just Scouts and Meteors mostly

And Phys3 towers for stun

[keen wind]

Ah the classic, see a blight encounter, start a blight encounter, it goes in all 4 directions, leave it be and move on

[muted parrot]

Oh yes and I‘m about to get the node with „lightning damage is lucky“
Surely will boost my DPS to new heights 😎
I forgot to quality the bow but for now I need some rest^^

[gilded elm]

Okay Ball Lighting + Lightning Warp combo is kinda fun

[tame dome]

Man, that act II boss was rough.

[gilded elm]

I don't think I can live without Shield Charge anymore lol

[gilded elm]

I love Cull

[tame dome]

This was kinda stupid, not gonna lie.

Was literarly just looking for the one thing.

[viral galleon]

what zone was that?

[tame dome]

Azak Bog, Act III.

[viral galleon]

ah yeah

[tame dome]

Bruh these jungle maps are really draining. Probably spent the last two hours on just two maps trying to find the one thing I need.

Was trying to find silverfist and I found him before I found the checkpoint next to him dying twice with my only other waypoint being halfway across the map. 😔

There's difficulty and then there's tedium.

[viral galleon]

i'm surprised how easy it is to get 100% shock chance as a monk on the tree

i don't have to travel far, grab 2 notables for shock and bam. 100% chance

[gilded elm]

Nice, finished Act 3.

Let's see how cruel Acts 1-3 on Cruel are

[tawny sand]

the jungle maps are pretty bad, i swear some of them i was in for like a full hour or something

they should def have another look at the map sizes, maybe make the xp curve a bit higher to supplement smaller maps

er, lower i mean lol.