📚┃off-topic

[fierce moth]

Ok the second time feels better a lot

The first time of everything for me always a chaos

Remind of I can buy something on town is a helpful action

[hexed stream]

man, every time the witch says wither away, I can't help but thinking it'd be a crime if I don't play chaos damage

[fierce moth]

What mana drain can do? Support mana?

[hexed stream]

yeah, leech some mana from enemies

I use that sometimes

[tawny sand]

my god i'm dying so much in the graveyard tombs

i'm not even sure what i'm doing wrong, i literally have only 10 skill points or something

oh

the shield guys

they deflect, i just now noticed lol

[fierce moth]

You mean this dungeon?

[tawny sand]

i think so, the consort's tomb

the shield skeletons delfect spells

deflect

took me forever to notice it

[hexed stream]

God bless me, I can't play for the next 24h

Gonna do casual planning instead

I was having a rough idea of how my build will develop

[fierce moth]

I enter a vault?

[ebon meadow]

Suppose to be like 23 hours for normal player xdd

Couldn't play launch my internet was bad ,today is the day

[fierce moth]

... It's crashed back twice times now

[ebon meadow]

I have crashed the game already without playing it lmao , was configuring graphic setting and it crashed when I switched an option

[fierce moth]

Pass it once time

[ebon meadow]

I was gonna ask if uniques changed to green but nahh I can read for once ol' quest item color

[tawny sand]

for crashes, are you guys on nvidia? they released a driver for poe2

i wouldn't know about amd

[ebon meadow]

I am on Nvidia and the game alerts u when u about to log in with drivers

But like the announcement said under Ur own risk lol Nvidia new drivers most of times can brake game

[hexed stream]

I didn't break my game, broke my nvidia card instead

Making poe2 the most expensive game for me so far

[ebon meadow]

How did u brake the GPU ???

I mean I heard of it before but holy I push my pc to limits

Ohh u mean the update ,yea sometimes it's a cluster fk things I don't know how they manage to pop out new drivers that can completely brick the card so u have to back it up

Personaly never had the issue but I was advised so many times I uninstalled the update program

[desert jasper]

I got stuck in act2
the first boss just went back to the mountain, stood still and regened to full
didn't attack me at all.
stunned him, knocked him down and he just went back to that position again
so gonna take a break to heat up some food, maybe get some fresh air after that

[ebon meadow]

I m grabbing a beer and food now hope I can play normally when get home

[desert jasper]

gl

[ebon meadow]

Also got a second screen lol finally I was missing it like a hand

[fierce moth]

his stuff made my day to be honest hhhhhhhh

[ebon meadow]

Apparently my work mate had a brand new 24" sitting around because he found it to small xdd

[desert jasper]

found it too small? lul
24'' is good size

[ebon meadow]

Ohh Nvidia drivers are a world of it's own

That's why even Devs posted that update on Ur own thing because yea never know how it goes

[ebon meadow]

Yea he bought same screen but in 32

He like is more ,and I geta cheap screen that's better than my current one

People that don't play or render but likes good things for pc lol

Saved me like 50-100 bucks for a better processor I guess

[fierce moth]

They're so fast... I still swim in act 1

[hexed stream]

No idea mate, played poe2 for 1h only when it kissed me goodbye. Tbh, it's most likely not because of poe2

Maybe it just died of old age and it's just a coincidence that it died today

[fierce moth]

Which GPU are you using now

[ebon meadow]

does it even boot ? if it does back up the driver to last version

[hexed stream]

4070 now

[ebon meadow]

if not i would wright to support just in case the new driver that fked it up

holyyy

[hexed stream]

It booted up but with windows basic display. The gpu was completely undetectable by the computer

[ebon meadow]

thats a bit wierd

yea i guess u right it just had it

[hexed stream]

And the display was janky, messy, like this

[ebon meadow]

or u power supply did and it cant support the GPU

[hexed stream]

Mine is a 1000W asus

[ebon meadow]

ok thats not a power supply that is defently the card

try to back up the driver to last version

[hexed stream]

Maybe I will try that, but what if it works? Coz I already bought new gpu

Make claims to nvidia?

[ebon meadow]

i mean that might work , and the decision is for u to make to keep the new one as a back up or return it i guess

[ebon meadow]

wouldnt be the first time

they have bricked cards like nothing before with single update

[hexed stream]

Ok, will test that out

[ebon meadow]

as for salesman , it depends on guarantee the service and the coverage as always

but if they screwd up with driver they should refund u

[hexed stream]

Warranty is over just 2 months ago 😅

[ebon meadow]

might take some time and hassel but thats how it works

[ebon meadow]

sounds about right as fishy as nvidia would go yep

try to back up and just decide if u want to keep the recent purchase just in case or refund it

like theres no way in the world a 4090 can brick like this

[hexed stream]

I think if the old one by any chance happens to work again, I will sell it on 2nd hand market

[ebon meadow]

i have done dirty things to my 1050 ti and its still popping better than my wole pc

[ebon meadow]

good idea to

best thing i heard is dont update driver untill at least 4 month have past and the fixes were pushed for it

i usud to always update it as it comes

it filled my ssd so hard that i have more from memory from updates used than anything on my pc

but thats also depends a lot of what u do with ur pc just play , rendering etc etc

nvidia for suporting anything out there is the best but the drivers updates are just very badly untested , AMD has very good performance but will not suport simple things that u use every day

[hexed stream]

This is real good advice

[ebon meadow]

just out of personal curiosity and feedback , is it gygabyte ?

or something else

i need to have some feedback on things i will use in future lol

[tawny sand]

i've never had issues with nvidia drivers

[hexed stream]

Was icolor

The one I just bought is msi

[fierce moth]

😵 I hope it's the last boss in act 1...

[tawny sand]

oh i just had an error, something about two handed weapons

weird

[ebon meadow]

it is very random depending on the pc build , for example i use gygabyte and corsair only for my pc and i had an issue once when i had to back up my drivers

[tawny sand]

gigabyte is a bad manufacturer tbh

[ebon meadow]

i can vouch for MSI

[ebon meadow]

thats the rummor and the story but i never had issues with it

[tawny sand]

their customer support is awful, or was

it might be better now

they had a ransomware attack and didn't pay so they had to resort to paper filings

[ebon meadow]

it works flawless even if ur pc sounds like 10 fans foing at same time xdd

[tawny sand]

took forever to get support

[ebon meadow]

at the end of the day no one knows better than people that test this things , i have seen random pc builds that on level of nasa servers with random pieces

its a thing of testing them out and how they work together

1 AMD card i tried literally couldnt run PoE and 2 more games was intantly scrapped and sent back to shop but i was testing it for them

was amazing to watch videos and movies though

was x4 the poor thing from MSI i was using before

but that was a 730

and btw NASA servers were made from what 400 PS3 processors becouse there was nothing better on the market

that was like 8-10 years ago so i doubt they still have same build up now since the hardware explotion

[fierce moth]

....😅

15K people in the queue now

[viral galleon]

did it died

[fierce moth]

My game just log out suddenly then it tell me I'm in the queue 👀

[signal needle]

Only mostly dead...

[desert jasper]

Yeah there was a patch

[ebon meadow]

yea then game died i have an update to

its path of Qs xdd like old days

new old intro to

[fierce moth]

... POE server is exploded by the sudden queue just now XD

I can enter in the game after waiting a while

[hexed stream]

No computer for 1 day, I'll spend all the time to optimize my planner

[ebon meadow]

they sold over million copys just for EA yea i feel sory for servers

[ebon meadow]

they even tested the servers with x3 peack players

[tawny sand]

20000 👀

[viral galleon]

small update went through kicked everyone out lol

[ebon meadow]

Q is going fast though

Blizz need to learn

[fierce moth]

Your case is more insane hhh

[viral galleon]

yeah there were server issues for what, 3 hours yesterday?

then i was able to play for 6 hours without issues

[ebon meadow]

i logged with 18 k Q

[ebon meadow]

well my net personally decided to screw me up so i couldnt play launch

[tawny sand]

i've had a couple lag spikes but nothing egregious

[fierce moth]

The last boss of act 1 is here?

[viral galleon]

yes

[ebon meadow]

my extender keept disconecting and my download was going to 148kbs and 4 days on Steam lmao

[viral galleon]

oof

[fierce moth]

God so one more boss I need to kill...alright

[viral galleon]

theres an optional boss you should kill in the manor too

[tawny sand]

yeah the optional stuff gives good rewards

[ebon meadow]

thre was some game issues to and people probably couldnt play "normaly"untill like 4 am EU

but i wasnt watching twintch or anything

[viral galleon]

like i said server issues lasted for around 3 hours, then they cleared up and i was able to play without a hitch for 6 hours

[ebon meadow]

23 hr campaighn for people like u aparently XD

[past gorge]

Hey guys i decided to leave the game and i'm selling my steam account with last epoch, full access, send me a message if interested.

[ebon meadow]

probably not the best place still , i think it goest against TOS

[past gorge]

oh

my bad ^^

[ebon meadow]

not sure though

[viral galleon]

at least it puts you right back where you were when you disconnect and rejoin

[ebon meadow]

wait not back in town ?

[viral galleon]

yeah

[ebon meadow]

that can be bad and HC people can die

[viral galleon]

well it only does that specifically if you in a boss

[ebon meadow]

means loggout timer got inc

[viral galleon]

it puts you at last checkpoint

[ebon meadow]

ohh

its a safe spot ?

[viral galleon]

yeah

unless you do this in a boss it supposedly puts you back in the boss arena

[ebon meadow]

damn they did some codding on game

this in 1 u be back to town no portals xdd

time to start , no char get papi name unless its a witch xdd

monk here we go

[fierce moth]

Just 23h? I think at least 30h

[ebon meadow]

i have to play my self all acts before i can judge lol i m slow but becouse i like to clear some zones

[fierce moth]

I'm tired already even I don't pass act 1 yet.

The most fast streamer... I don't know who but I must the people the most slow to push the game here 🤭

@tawny sand I want to ask which skills are you using

Flame wall and ember fusillade is which I use the most now

Not sure how orbs of storm control enemy, enfeeble is for reducing damage I taken

[viral galleon]

flame wall with fortress is fun

[fierce moth]

Ok I need to find a uncut gem at first

I had died 28 times now hhhh

[viral galleon]

did you kill king in the mists?

[fierce moth]

I'm a newbie.

[viral galleon]

go to freythorn the reward from the quest there is really good

[fierce moth]

Holy god, find the entrance of manor finally

The square just overbig

[tawny sand]

Just finished act 1 with this

not pictured is the lightning buff, i have it at the bottom of the gem menu cause i like to organize

er sorry, Mana Remnants buff

er sorry again, not doing mana remnants. Somehow i don't have enough spirit for it

but it is slotted

oh it's cause i have clarity supporting it but only have 30 max spirit (costs 40 with clarity)

[tawny sand]

omg being swarmed by enemies up against a wall is the worstttttt

[fierce moth]

🤔 hah interesting. So my dps even higher than you but I still has trouble to slain bosses

[tawny sand]

i went for some energy shield nodes

i'm struggling on rathbreaker though

the hyenas get me stuck and i die to the slams

[fierce moth]

yeah...I need to polish defence part now

[wind jolt]

poe2 according to steamDB have now more players then luanch, i guess it will cross the 500k mark today

[fierce moth]

OH MY GOD.

The boss combat is pretty tough yeah but it's super satisfying when I did that too... Died about 7 times

I find ||hear the rhythm of music|| to decide when should I attack and when should I dodge is very useful after I died a few times here

Oh... Such a pity that this one not the main quest's one

[fierce moth]

Holy god, this one is the real last boss?!... Its health just don't change at all even I experienced three rounds of combats 🙃

[narrow token]

I never got past him and gave up. Spent all night on it too.

[fierce moth]

😵 My spirit is run out... Go back to challenge it after taking a sleep is better

[narrow token]

I still can't beat him. Tried again about an hour ago. No dice.

Some bosses just spam big aoe attacks too often. I have basically 0 time to deal damage. It's dodge roll simulator 2024.

[fierce moth]

Do all maps in act 2 is red land so I can judge this is act 2 by the landscape?

Ziz offline finally. I'm admired his vitality... Played this top difficulty game for 24h...At least

[fierce moth]

And the obvious problem is players can't have good movement speed at the beginning so... Only can dodge to avoid their attack. I wish I have a 50% movement speed boots 🤭

[tawny sand]

the only issue i really had on this boss is when the fog happens and he charges you randomly, i couldn't tell how to avoid it cause he also summon adds

[narrow token]

It's a "feel" thing, for me. I just dodge every ~3 seconds or so.

[exotic wave]

fleshy: go play KH1

there's a boss who does this exact thing

[twilit mountain]

That mfer killed me 19 times and counting. I sure love getting frozen by half their god damn moveset in one hit, what cool design GGG!

[junior oyster]

It took me a good while to kill him

But I did it

Minions are squishy ah

[twilit mountain]

I'm on Ranger. Bow skills are kinda ass.

[narrow token]

That fight is not fun. Also doesn't help that loading screens cause my pc to freeze so bad that I have to hard reset it.

[twilit mountain]

People go "ranged skills have built in defense!" but every fight puts you in like 4 meter proximity 🫠

[junior oyster]

His final phase is where he killed me the most

[narrow token]

Same

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. Instantly frozen + CB + the ice spikes was awful for me.

[junior oyster]

Either during the cloud thing or when he freezes me and then suddenly does those ice pillar things

[narrow token]

He does those aoe attacks around him so often that I can't get near him and do any damage.

[junior oyster]

I could probably help you but can't guarantee I'll be useful

I nearly died to him on my win run

[twilit mountain]

Also, I just need to make sure, neither of you are getting anywhere near enough currency to craft like they said we would, right?

[narrow token]

Not even close

[junior oyster]

I got a blacksmith's stone in a2 😂

Those drop like candy in poe1

[twilit mountain]

Awesome, I'm not insane. I've gotten a whopping 5 exalts. 3 of them were in A2. Didn't realize when they said "players will be dropping multiple exalted orbs in act 1" they meant "enough to halfway fill an item"

[junior oyster]

Oh I get a decent amount of exalts but those are pointless because what I need are regal orbs

[twilit mountain]

Dude. I haven't seen a regal since the cemetery.

[junior oyster]

Hell I got more exalts than the orb of transmute

[twilit mountain]

I've ascended already.

[junior oyster]

I haven't lol

[twilit mountain]

It sucks lmao

[junior oyster]

And yea I also saw one regal

[twilit mountain]

I was coping so hard that it wouldn't be bad. It's bad.

[junior oyster]

Like in this game regal >>>>>> exalts

[tawny sand]

trial of the sekhemas kind of sucks, is that ultimatum?

[twilit mountain]

It's Sanctum

[tawny sand]

oh okay

[twilit mountain]

It's horrible

[junior oyster]

Oh I hate sanctum

[twilit mountain]

The boss is fine

Everything else is terrible

[junior oyster]

They should have just kept lab

lol

[tawny sand]

i had the rattlecage boss, i got through just fine

but lost all my honor on the bosses slams

[twilit mountain]

Rattlecage is guaranteed

[tawny sand]

oh okay

[twilit mountain]

I beat him with 43 honor left. But I lose 300 of my honor just getting to him because they just decided a bunch of the rooms would have multiple rare mobs that can follow you into the exit

[viral galleon]

yeah i gave up on rattles and came back after a few levels

[junior oyster]

I do wanna ascend but there isn't and won't be a minion ascendancy so I don't even know if it's worth ascending

[tawny sand]

what got me was the 3 big slams

i tried doding them but rip me i guess

[viral galleon]

you playing a witch?

[junior oyster]

Yep

[viral galleon]

infernalist

[twilit mountain]

Yeah the dodge is kinda.... not very good? It has iframes at the very start but that's it so things just kinda hit you in the middle of it if they're fast

[junior oyster]

SRS?

[viral galleon]

yeah you can do that

[tawny sand]

it feels delayed idk

i feel like i have to dodge kind of early for it to come out

[twilit mountain]

I haaaaate the delay to move that happens right after it

[junior oyster]

Problem is I've been using chaos skills and I lowkey feel chaos > minions

As in hybrid

[viral galleon]

i've been playing srs with fire spells

flame wall summons like 5 spirits when you drop it lol

[junior oyster]

I have skele archers doing poison and then using chaos skills myself

That's assuming I can even ascend lool

[narrow token]

You'd think a sorc would have the fire ascendancy.

But w/e

[twilit mountain]

Speaking of poison, nobody try to level a poison Ranger. It is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

[viral galleon]

stormweaver can do fire, a lot of it is generic elemental

[sand wigeon]

Nooo really?

[mental talon]

It's funny Warrior felt easy act 1 then first quarter of act 2 sucked ass 3 then after that it was smooth sailing

What an emotional rollercoaster ladies and gentlemen

I went from "Man this is is fun" to "Oh no do I have to reroll what the hell happened" to "Man this is fun"

[narrow token]

It's not gotten any better for me. At all

[hexed stream]

Focus on the voice acting
That's what helped me defeat this boss right on 1st try

My experience against this boss is actually the minority here: I find the boss quite easy compared to some other bosses in act 1

[fierce moth]

Just get up then I see Judd played 8h poe 2 and closed the game

[fierce moth]

hah yeah no fire... It's damn

Only cold and lightning so fire storemweaver will be sucks later

[hexed stream]

Infernalist: please look at my ascendancy name

[fierce moth]

Which gem is for the socket on body armor or gloves and boots?

[viral galleon]

That's not for gems it's for runes

I think internalist fits better on witch anyway, witch is very occulty and infernalist is demonic.

Also we did it boys

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/424976647268204545/1315206738215043093/image.png?ex=67569139&is=67553fb9&hm=28a754fe7b0e40dc2cc41663058aaad81f84649c9f18fe6e8b123000dbac900d&

[fierce moth]

what's runes?

I can't get runes now :(

[junior oyster]

They drop randomly

Like basically everything else

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1h9cnm9/comment/m100i54/?context=3
I want to know how to kill this insane boss... My choices are wrong on skills?

I don't get why someone say melee attack from enemies not so much... Holy god, they're melee attack all the time, ok?

[tawny sand]

i think i got sort of lucky with him cause i had a lot of cold resist, idk

it's weird cause they said currency would drop more, but i'm not finding hardly any so far

i need to upgrade my gear

oh great

i had one exalted and it gave me light radius

that's amazing

i love it

[fierce moth]

Oh find the first rune

[desert jasper]

Tried to do the sekema trials on melee
oh boy it wasn't fun
I kinda hate it when bosses do AoE the moment you could attack them

[twilit mountain]

The ultimatum trial isn't any better lmfao

They really went "damn people hate labs. Let's make it WAAAAAAAAAAAY worse"

[narrow token]

I failed the trial on monk. So many things are just big aoes around enemies I need to kill.

[twilit mountain]

Basincally none of my MTX work. But at least this guy does <3

[tawny sand]

i'm dying a lot in act 2, what should i be changing? I feel like i'm just running my head against a wall. No currency to augment items i find

[hexed stream]

The only mtx from poe1 that works for me is the portal mtx I worked so hard for but thought it was not worth it. Now I feel it totally is worth it lol

Also, that mtx looks much nicer than in poe1

And darn, the naked char bug is so funny, didn't know this game is R rated

[fierce moth]

I still on the way of preparing for the mad wolf

Switch to lightning damage as the main damage type now but then... Sigh always stuck on the surrounding with enemies

I bet only gamers who enjoyed soul-like ARPG will enjoy poe 2 (I never play any soul-like ARPG so I struggled a lot)

[desert jasper]

Eh it doesn't feel like a souls game at all to me

[tawny sand]

people are just saying it's souls-like cause it's difficult i guess, it doesn't feel like a souls game to me either

[fierce moth]

poe 2 let me know the current keyboard have high delay when I need it to react my action quickly...One of reasons

I want to play act 2 so much :(

Do EA version support to add friend and join a party like poe?

[desert jasper]

yes there's partying

[maiden widget]

feels like one to me

stingy with loot, respawn everything on death

[narrow token]

Plus the combat ratio between you getting to attack versus having to dodge is heavily weighed towards dodging. For every attack, I have to dodge about 5 or 6 times.

That's VERY soulslike. Enemies respawning on any death is just adding insult to injury.

[fierce moth]

🙏 Anyone can bring me to kill mad wolf?

[junior oyster]

Would love to but I struggle against him myself a lot

You could try asking in the PoE server maybe?

[fierce moth]

I want to go back to fight with Aberroth after I died under the claw of mad wolf a lot of times 😅

The most hard boss in le still more simple than the first chapter-end boss in poe 2 a lot

A silly question: How to take runes out of body armour?

[tawny sand]

you can't

[fierce moth]

🙃 Damn

[fierce moth]

God, I find the trick how to increased my damage finally

Arc (a lightning skill) can deal more damage if I can cast it consistently, as like as xxx perfect times in music games

Damage:
300 - 1st hit
400 - 2nd hit
500 - 3rd hit
600 - 4th hit
Follow this logic

Smash my mouse heavily*

Oh yeah. I foeget curse him aaaaaaa

Arc can kill the wolf for sure

...Forget this thing again. Holy too immersed always

Hold damn?! The game is crashed after I kill the mad wolf immediately?!

hah? No rewards? Oh... They spawned just now

Ok... My experience is

1. I shouldn't evade during the fog duration because there's 1s moment I can't move after the evade then it'll too easy be slain if the wolf rushing to my position
2. Keep attacking by arc as long as possible to increase my damage to reduce the total combat time
3. Remember to kill wolves that mad wolf summoned because they'll surround me quickly and many of them can cast ice explosion to slow me

I guess the reason why I'm failed to kill that wolf in fire damage is fire damage is regular per time

[fierce moth]

... The rhythm I suppose is a bit too serious? Just killed a big boss then I must|| kill the other boss|| at the beginning of act 2

[ebon meadow]

Finally have my second screen back happiest day out of year

Missed it so much

[ebon meadow]

Did u start another character ? Or did I cought to u in 6 hrs xdd

[fierce moth]

But I'm on HK server... how are you catch me

[junior oyster]

It took me two tries but I got my first ascendancy:

[fierce moth]

Which act can get the first ascendancy?

[junior oyster]

2

Unless I missed something in a1

[ebon meadow]

i woke up 5 am this morning and started to play XD , took me like half a day if not more to set the settings lol

[fierce moth]

I hope the controller support can be lived as soon as possible... Too tough to control character by current way

anyone know how to cast cold snap correctly? I don't get why nothing happens when I casting it

[narrow token]

I'm not doing that ascendancy until I'm not bad at this game. That could take a few years.

[desert jasper]

I finally got that ascendancy after uhh... what was it, 8th or 9th try
Don't think I'll touch it again on a melee character

[gilded elm]

Woke up a couple hours ago, powered up my Steam Deck and knocked out the Act 2 ascendency trial on the first try (although I failed a couple times last night at my PC)

Combat feels so friggin good in this game

[fierce moth]

...I'm lost in the big maze 🤭

[hexed stream]

half drunk right now, wonder if I can still play for the night

[fierce moth]

I own the first lv.7 skill gem finally

[hexed stream]

let's play, while still having too much of alcohol in me

[fierce moth]

On the opposite, I want to take a break

80% today's time spent on preparing and exploring how to kill that damn wolf 🙃
I see someone have reached act 6 already

[fierce moth]

do you know which key is for showing all suuport gems/ all skill gems?

🤭 These streamers even start to play 2nd characters

[gilded elm]

I think you need to have at least one uncut skill/support gem to actually be able to see. But once you right click the gem, there's a check box that lets you see everything

[fierce moth]

Yeah I'm confused why I can't check them out when I don't have a uncut gem

[gilded elm]

Yep that's a common complaint, not just you

[fierce moth]

I guess you're in act 3 now? 👀

[gilded elm]

Nope, still act 2, think I'm at the end of act 2 though

Was just taking a break to make a quick and simple loot filter so I can better highlight some more important stuff lol

[fierce moth]

I guess you'll see me go to the end of act 2 three day later, or even later

[gilded elm]

Loot filter works, I just need to tweak the colors, font sizes and add more items to filter

[hexed stream]

many streamers are in map already

[fierce moth]

Do loot filter from poe works for poe 2 too?

[gilded elm]

Probably not existing filters, but the format is the same. You just have to make the filter from scratch lol

Even the sounds work, so that's good

[hexed stream]

better find some premade one and copy

[fierce moth]

My speed is like a snail compare with them hhhhh

[hexed stream]

guess I'll call it a day, too drunk to continue

[gilded elm]

Perfect, got the minimap icon and the beam too.

[fierce moth]

Alright, my step blocking by a new boss combat...

Confused about how the ray from the luminous orb going

[fierce moth]

😂 I feel my damage is poor again

@tawny sand Which skill combo you're used to kill double bosses here and which one should I kill at first?
The mage boss is crazy on meteor attack after the bone dragon is slain 🙃

I still keep the strategy that keep casting arc all the time, plus cast conductivity to curse one and cast enfeeble to curse the other one. Dodge all the time during the luminous orb is live.
My arc dps is 200 so far

[fierce moth]

This is my passive tree, lv 25 so far

[tawny sand]

idk, i beat them first try so i couldn't tell you. I'm still just using spark with flame wall and orb of storms and the curse

bosses that have adds that swarm are the ones i struggle the most with so far.

[tawny sand]

i don't think the resist shred nodes matter right now this early, but i wouldn't know for sure. I didn't take them

[fierce moth]

Go to slain another boss and this one is the most simple one I seen because I can pause and consume the combat anytime 🤭

[tawny sand]

that one took me a few tries cause of the adds

[fierce moth]

Your action skill is amazing 😱

[fierce moth]

I can say no boss don't take me a few tries 🤭

As a newbie, I'm struggling with bosses so hard

I found an rare chaos wand, an rare fire staff, an rare fire wand, just no rare lightning wand 🙃

[tawny sand]

i think i have 45 deaths so far and i'm still in act 2 lol

so you're not alone, i'm dying a lot

[fierce moth]

45 only? 😂

[desert jasper]

I have found 1 unique so far and it's a bow
don't really do much with it on my warrior

[tawny sand]

i have two uniques, both maces

lol

[fierce moth]

Hi :)
No uniques :(

I bet I can over 500 times before I entered atlas map 🤭

[tawny sand]

i finally found an upgrade to my weapon, it was ice skill but it had really good stats so i'm just not using the skill

[fierce moth]

I wonder why the game give me weapon set points so early... I even don't have double suitable wands

[tawny sand]

oh also, i didn't take those "damage with hits against enemies affected by ailments" nodes yet

i went straight for the lightning nodes at the top of the atlas

i mean tree*

[fierce moth]

Ok then i guess I can switch points from lightning resistance shred to the top of passive tree

[tawny sand]

i'll take a screencap of my tree once i log in

[tawny sand]

this is what i have so far, the recouped life nodes i'm trying out atm

[fierce moth]

😱 Your path is super straight

😂 😂 😂
My path is more messy, just go anywhere I seen

[narrow token]

Is it just me or are there not a lot of support gem options that really do anything interesting? I know there's a lot, but their effects don't have that visual OOMPH if you know what I mean.

[fierce moth]

I wonder should I try occultist's skill or not... both of upport gems and skill gems are over than the amount of I need now

[maiden widget]

I felt the same and similarly the available active gems for a given element were not great as well.

Builds come online so much later in poe2 it seems extremely weird

[fierce moth]

oh... I guess I need to face the first try in a trial maze too... To-do thing after taking a sleep

[narrow token]

I'm level 32 in act 2 and I'm still just getting creamed. It's gotten so bad that I can't pull more than 2 or 3 mobs at a time without getting swarmed and killed in a second or two.

[fierce moth]

🤭 Alright, as I said, the first time always a chaos

I don't get used to avoid enemy's attack completely... If I can do that, any boss combats are super simple

But I need more coins to access trial maze too, a long-term work

oh the quest coin give back to me? Oh nice. So no limit on error and trial

[narrow token]

This is kinda where I'm at right now.

[hexed stream]

lol give up already?

I don't think I will do that for the next few years

[hexed stream]

I'm 23 here and decimating almost everything in act 2

[narrow token]

It's just exhausting.

[hexed stream]

maybe it's the build that's not optimized and therefore exhausting

but idk, lots of poe1 veterans are giving up too

[narrow token]

It's more likely I'd play something else than try to fiddle with a build. Nothing that I actually LIKE works very well. No matter what I try.

[hexed stream]

then change the build?

[narrow token]

I did.

[hexed stream]

that's strange, and I was 10 levels behind you, result can't be that different right?
I'm playing chaos dot witch, what they say is mediocre for poe1

[gilded elm]

Friggin Ben man, such an insane damn player.

He makes PoE2 look easier than D4 lol

[gilded elm]

Using almost every skill in boss fights to keep my damage pumping lol

[safe sinew]

But yeah LEpoch does dodging, and generally everything better so far, by far than PoE2, though I am eager to see what some of the other things they will add will do.

[hollow coral]

The identify all in town and still having identify scrolls is so weird

Just drop everything indentified and let loot fitler do its job?

Copy the whole feature dammit

It's EA, but they got way overglazed in previews, the streamers are so bored playing the game

Everyone depressed

[safe sinew]

At least they did give us gold now

instead of the fricken transumute x to y, to buy D and you need a flow chart to understand commerce

[hollow coral]

Yea, there's big potential, but the game right now is probably less fun than even D4

[safe sinew]

D4 was.... such a disapointment

[hexed stream]

not weird, there are things you just want to id on spot, and when your inventory is not filled, you don't want to tele to town yet

[hollow coral]

Well you kinda want everything identified on the spot, having to go to town or use scrolls adds needless friction

The only thing the unid'd stuff does is requiring more clicks, that's all it does

[gilded elm]

Whoo, Jamanra on my second attempt. That was so fun

Having a blast

[silk veldt]

I'm frustrated at not being able to get past the Act 1 boss, he keeps one shotting me in his second phase and it feels impossibly to dodge everything

And that's if I'm not being murdered by the werewolf pack he summons in the too small arena circle he makes... although, I admit, his little rhyming speach there is REALLY awesome

[hollow coral]

You gotta do all the sidequests and get frost resist belt trinket

[silk veldt]

I did.

[hollow coral]

The smoke arena was aids to deal with, especially for sorc

Get swarmed, can't stop to cast, get bodied

[hexed stream]

idk if it's your first time playing poe, but in maps, that's not what you can do very often

[gilded elm]

I dunno, I trivialized Act 1 boss on sorc after I went back and farmed a level or two, some currency and got some upgrades (either from vendor or from crafting).

Literally just 2 skilled his ass with Flame Wall and Spark for most of it

[silk veldt]

I'm Merc and having trouble dealing with the summoned hoard, I'm often feeling weak DPS wise no matter what I do unless it's single target

[hollow coral]

That's the game for everyone, you either get lucky with drops or just grind the boss like a Dark Souls boss

Learn patterns and then no-hit run his ass once

[gilded elm]

You either need some form of sustain or better pack clearing most likely. But also you shouldn't be getting into the fog/mist phase more than a couple times else it's kind of an indicator of lacking DPS. Act bosses tend to be DPS checks

Or more precisely, build checks.

[silk veldt]

I've always died well before he does the mist phase a second time

Again, some of his attacks one shot me if they hit and I'm having trouble dodging them

[hollow coral]

Farming kinda sucks, I like less drops, but nothing useful ever drops and crafting currency doesn't drop either, single Alch in 2 acts

[gilded elm]

For what it's worth, you are expected to go back to whereever and grind/farm, whether that's currency, gold for gamba, gear, or levels.

Whenever you encounter these hard walls.

[hollow coral]

What attack is that? I remember almost all of them being quite easy to dodge?

Bruh, grinding/farming is the most depressing part of PoE2 with how anemic the drops are and how long fighting white packs takes

@silk veldt try dodging into the boss, that's a thing from Dark Souls

You dodge to the side/behind them and then "slowly" turn, giving you time to do other stuff

Oh and let's not forget that everyone has to play the game in the same style of precasting stuff 5m ahead so you can stand in your buffs and then the holding button to spam the single DPS skill

[silk veldt]

Yeah, I did notice white packs sometimes being damage sponges for some reason too

[gilded elm]

Early game drop rates could be better, maybe by 1.25x-1.5x (+25% ~ +50%) but it's not really been too big of a pain point. A good chunk of my upgrades came from vendor shop and just using whatever crafting currency I get.

[hollow coral]

My "gameplay" is move 10m, precast buffs on the ground, spam skill -> move 10m, precast buffs on the ground, spam skill -> on repeat

[hollow coral]

Or maybe more currency to craft better stuff or better drops that are relevant to your class

[gilded elm]

Not quite what I'm looking for, but could see this being good for a Stormweaver with all the mana

Vendors have been a really reliable source of gear compared to drops, for sure.

I agree the currency drop rates are the thing that need to be improved the most though. Jonathan said we'd be showering with exalts and regals early game but I'm not quite feeling that yet lol

[hollow coral]

I got 51% increased damage on my staff, I couldn't tell a difference, expected it to cut my TTK by a substantial amount

[hollow coral]

Btw I think they have hardcoded single Unique and single Alch in Act 1

[gilded elm]

Yeah "increased damage" on a weapon probably won't be that valuable compared to some other stuff as that's just additive bonus with other sources of "increased" on your tree.

[hollow coral]

Cause you get that early on and then it's nothing for a loooooooooong time unless real lucky

[gilded elm]

I was thinking that staff could be more useful for this node in particular

But I wouldn't use it, prefer wand+shield combo for now

It would also significantly bump my Impending Doom damage, which is what I heavily rely on for quickly clearing packs

Actually is a decent upgrade for me if I went with it

[gilded elm]

Got to Act 3 and immediately fought some white monsters that are at my level and I honestly don't see the problem with a proper build and only half decent gear.

[sand wigeon]

(The thing is that you can have a half decent build, a lot of the options simply aren’t)

[gilded elm]

People keep telling me that about sorc, but I'm not seeing it in my own play. Maybe Chronomancer sucks, I guess.

My weapon doesn't even have any +skills mods lol

[sand wigeon]

Yeah. Sorc is probably the second worst? Ranger is probably the worst class right now.

Bows kinda got shafted, too

[twilit mountain]

Sorc has some good options, elemental storms go pretty hard

[gilded elm]

Maybe Ben trivializes any class he plays, but dude is just stomping with ranger flame wall poison gas combo

[twilit mountain]

Try actually using poison lol. It's horrid.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I’m poison pathfinder

[twilit mountain]

PF got annihilated

[sand wigeon]

Explosive gas seems to be the only good thing on bow

[gilded elm]

Yeah I guess that's what I meant, explosive gas.

[sand wigeon]

But crossbow has access to the same thing anyways

[twilit mountain]

Flask stuff is awful, poison itself scales terribly, the prolif node on PF is literally just a GEM you can have except the gem is BETTER

[gilded elm]

Igniting the gas and creating some big explosive hits, with added fire damage to bow attacks from flame wall, seemed like a nice synergy

[twilit mountain]

Like, I found Magnetic Salvo today. It feels good. It does good damage but requires setup. Apparently it is going to be nerfed because it is "unbalanced".

[sand wigeon]

I’m doing my best to not hate the game, but stumbling into playing the worst build really isn’t helping. Like, I get it’s EA, but the game has some MAJOR flaws that were brought up in apparently every closed beta test

[twilit mountain]

I guess spending 5 clicks to setup and 1/4 of my mana pool per cast is "unbalanced"

[gilded elm]

I'll be honest though when I saw the Chronomancer ascendency, I thought that's what I want to play, conceptually that's cool as hell... but then when I read the nodes, looked at the skill tree, started trying to theorycraft in my head... I was like, nope I'm gonna stick with Stormweaver aka Elementalist and play it safe lmao

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

The passive tree is probably the worst part of the game right now

I got my first notable at level 12

[gilded elm]

Yeah, not sure if conventional PoE wisdom really applies to PoE2's passive tree, maybe it does... but I'm also nowhere near the edge of the tree where you'd normally find all the juicy notables and keystones lol

Level 34

[sand wigeon]

Poison has a total of four wheels and they all somehow barely increase poison’s damage

And two of them are MILES away

Most of the supports in the game simply don’t work with my best skill

[gilded elm]

Seems like an odd choice since with this new passive tree they seemingly are trying to add more value closer to the starting position without having to travel too much just to get to something good.

[sand wigeon]

Ranger has nothing good near them

It’s mostly flask nodes

[gilded elm]

Maybe poison is meant for Shadow, not sure if we know where Shadow's starting position will be though

[sand wigeon]

That seems likely

There’s a poison mult on dagger node

Inbetween Witch and Ranger

Alongside two of the poison nodes

[gilded elm]

Oh, coupled with dagger? Yeah that's def intended for Shadow

[sand wigeon]

Feels really BS though

[gilded elm]

It makes sense but yeah I get it, that feels bad

[sand wigeon]

Like. Pathfinder is pretty much entirely poison stuff

A bunch of skills on the bow are poison

It’s a mess

[gilded elm]

Hadn't considered how missing classes might affect the experience of other classes in the passive tree, that does suck.

[twilit mountain]

There's a bunch of block and melee stuff by ranger

Intended for spears

They don't exist

[sand wigeon]

Also bow nodes like

Aren’t a thing

There’s some quiver stuff

And that’s it

[gilded elm]

This one is Ranger, right?

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

Top right is Witch

[gilded elm]

Okay, so it's pretty easy to infer where each unreleased class is going

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

I think the passive tree needs like. an entire overhaul tbh

It’s real messy

[gilded elm]

They really wanted to make cool drawings with the passive tree lol

lol

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, and it means there’s ten kajillion tiny nodes

[sand wigeon]

Like this could be two tiny passive nodes

[gilded elm]

Yeah. Grim Dawn technically did something similar with Devotions, but is more optimized like you're saying.

[sand wigeon]

What they should do is reduce the amount of tiny passive nodes but pop up an overlay showing the image when you hover the cluster

Kinda like the Skyrim skill tree

[gilded elm]

Or I guess upgrade some nodes to "mini notables" of some sort, as added value

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

[ebon meadow]

staff one is the same lul

i mean a drawing not a sword though

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I mean almost everything is that way

Spear nodes are in the shape of a spear, crossbow nodes in a crossbow shape etc.

[ebon meadow]

someone is an astrologist or a horoscope fan xd

[gilded elm]

Cool in theory, but not sure how well it plays out in practice across different classes and builds.

But sounds like, maybe not so well

I wonder how broken "connection" nodes would be in the passive tree, the ones we have in PoE1's atlas passive tree that connects two nodes across a large distance

Like maybe limit it to one connection total and you can only connect to an adjacent area (for example, Ranger could make a travel connection to Shadow or Duelist connection nodes)

Actually, looks like Huntress is the other adjacent one to Ranger

Duelist should fit between Warrior and Marksman

[gilded elm]

Bruh, first pair of MS boots I find shouldn't be in an Act 3 vendor haha

[hot sentinel]

I love the Devotion tree 😄

[gilded elm]

Saaame lol

[hexed stream]

lol, in act 3?

[gilded elm]

Yep, GGG really screwing me on movement speed lol

[twilit mountain]

I am in cruel act 2 without MS boots because none have dropped, there's not enough currency, and my vendors have nothing. And it isn't just me, my friend I am playing with has the same issue.

[gilded elm]

I honestly think the currency drop rates might be bugged lol

Jonathan said we'd be showered with regals and exalts

I don't think he meant to lie, and I do believe he plays the game

[twilit mountain]

Either bugged or his vision of the game is bs and we all got baited

[gilded elm]

Nah this is more like if Chris Wilson made a ninja patch to PoE2 early access build without Jonathan and Mark knowing about it, and doing an evil chuckle

"If you won't play Ruthless, I'll make you!"

[twilit mountain]

idk man, apparently the same problem existed during all the beta tests despite reports

[gilded elm]

That would be more concerning for sure.

D4 had the same issue, going on since the closed alpha tests years back. They flat out ignored most of the major feedback and rolled out the game any way.

[gilded elm]

Baby Piety pet, I can't lmao

[hexed stream]

why are you guys strangely bad with rng

need to set up a proper ritual with statue and incense and offering, and a long heartfelt prayer to rngesus I guess

[gilded elm]

cant help it, was born with a bad character seed

rng screwed for life

lmao ben's build nerfed

I guess it was too strong

[hexed stream]

I recall this class was nerfed yesterday, now another time lol

[gilded elm]

Yesterday was Warrior nerf I think

Good to get these overtuned skills/interactions nerfed early on before it becomes normalized

[median zephyr]

Poe 2 is what I always criticised in LE. Instant kills is for lazy developers without the effort to make it hard. not stressful annoying.

Especially boss fights

[hexed stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/Ogw8Px420l
for those interested
first version of loot filter from neversink himself

[gilded elm]

lol nice, I knew he wouldn't be able to resist the urge to make this during his first playthrough

[median zephyr]

Noicee

[gilded elm]

I think the thing that annoys me the most about PoE2 is that the map now has a loading screen lol

[tawny sand]

my biggest issue was they made it sound like crafting currency would drop a lot more, but i'm hardly finding any lol

[gilded elm]

Yeah I almost can't believe the currency drop rates are intentional with how Jonathan was making it sound

[tawny sand]

apparently it's generated per character, i didn't know this but someone else said it was so idk

[gilded elm]

Still think if it's something that has to be "loaded" it can probably happen asynchronously/in the background, weird decision to have a loading delay on the world map.

[tawny sand]

but yeah in general the loot is very minimal

i thought i would be crafting up bases, nope

[gilded elm]

The lack of rare drops is fine as far as I'm concerned. I get plenty of white drops that can serve as a good or decent base. Problem is definitely currency drop rates IMO

[tawny sand]

yeah

also the lack of phasing on the dodge roll (someone said there's a phasing charm but i haven't seen it)

being swarmed and stuck in a pack of mobs is the worst

[gilded elm]

That can be annoying but it's definitely an intentional design decision.

Body blocking is one of the better features they added I think, as it does force you to position and move with deliberate planning.

But I actually really enjoy that

[fathom harbor]

i think it will take time to adjust coming from poe1

[hexed stream]

Definitely false advertisement lol
But to be fair, exalted orbs do drop much more often than poe1

[gilded elm]

Still, Jonathan kinda made it sound like they'd be dropping at the rate of Alt orbs in PoE1 lol

[hexed stream]

My biggest dislike is no alt orb

[gilded elm]

No alt/scour is mostly okay, because we have plenty of bases we can attempt on, we just lack alchs, regals and exalts. Crafting is more deterministic in PoE2 now, so that's why they removed those currencies.

[hexed stream]

Still tho, people are getting weapons, offhand and amulet that are worth multiple div so early on

Haven't seen mirror tier weapon but probably soon

Imagine +9 to your skill type

[gilded elm]

Currency-based crafting would be so fun if we just had some currency drop lol

The potential is there, just please GGG tweak the damn rates haha

Now that the crafting from currency is more deterministic, it would be great to actually try crafting stuff

[hexed stream]

Who would have thought the most important currency to get good gears is the actual currency: gold

[gilded elm]

I guess if you're doing a lot of gamba yeah, which to be fair gamba is a huge source of upgrades early game it seems which does make gold highly valuable right now

Gamba and vendor, I mean

[hexed stream]

Even when mapping, they already reported that drops from mapping is no better than campaign

A total drought

[gilded elm]

This has to be a bug, c'mon that can't be real lol

[tawny sand]

i just looked at the poe reddit, lot of posts from people seemingly not enjoying the game. I think it's alright though so far, i'm still in act 2 though

[gilded elm]

I'm overall having a blast tbh

[tawny sand]

i guess the meme now is "poe2 bad" though 😏

[gilded elm]

Some rough edges, but I like I've seen so far

[hexed stream]

Who could have thought d4 > poe2 haha

Me is opposite, I'm having an absolute banger with the game, but that's probably me lying inside the top 1% favorite kids of rngesus

[gilded elm]

I've read somewhere that Rarity mods can really juice up your currency drop rates though. MF build let's go lol

[tawny sand]

yeah i'm having a good time

i'm dying a lot which is frustrating, but overall good

[hexed stream]

How many deaths already

[gilded elm]

Learned to get good after each one and been having more fun with each overcome challenge

[tawny sand]

50 i think, i don't have the game open rn

it's really just bosses that have adds that swarm me i die to a lot

rathbreaker broke me lol

[gilded elm]

Whenever I get swarmed and body blocked to death now, I don't even get mad. I just laugh at how stupid I was, because I was lol

[silk veldt]

Honestly it's Last Epoch > PoE2 > D4 from what I've seen so far.

[tawny sand]

what are your guys' thoughts on the skill synergies? It feels not as creative as I thought (maybe with more skills it'll get better)

[hexed stream]

I will optimize them all into 1 button build again with those meta gems

[silk veldt]

PoE2 made a lot of really strange decisions. Like you have support gems that improve or change skills... but you can only have a given gem on one skill at a time, even if you have two of that gem. I really really want +25% attack speed on both main attack and armor piercing rounds, but the game forbids it. They try to encourage switching skills to fit the situation but that system punishes you for trying it, you're better off loading a single skill with all the best gems and never using anything else. >.>

[gilded elm]

Campaign experience is 100% super reliant on multi-skill combos which compounds nicely with synergy, but one button builds are basically not a thing at this point. Will have to see how it goes in end game

[silk veldt]

It's basically somewhat pressuring me into a one buttone build even if that's not what I wanted.

[hexed stream]

now the more important job is jeweller orb lol, more link more powerful

[gilded elm]

Yep, and the fact that they limited each skill to 2 support sockets before Act 3 is very much intentional and telling you to "use those spare skill slots and start using more skills to make up for the lack of support gems"

[tawny sand]

i've still just been running spark through flame wall and orb of storms

[gilded elm]

Same, except I also use Flammability and Solar Orb on top of that

My entire rotation is Flammability -> Storm Orb -> Solar Orb -> Flame Wall -> Spark

With small variability in between casts

Flammability with Impending Doom has been a major help for clearing packs

[tawny sand]

i'll have to try that

i guess i'm a shock/burn build? idk

i was hoping to do just lightning to make it simpler but yeah idk

[gilded elm]

I also use Unleash support with my Flame Wall, but this wasn't one of the "recommended" gems so I had to manually untick the box that shows all applicable support gems. Oh also forgot to mention I use Raging Spirits as well.

[tawny sand]

i'm really the type to prefer builds that build off one main attack skill, so idk how i feel about having so many skills to manage and a rotation

at least on sorc it feels like you're meant to use multiple skills with synergies, I haven't had the issue prismward mentioned

[gilded elm]

Campaign is definitely feeling high APM and I personally enjoy that, but yeah I do hope end game builds are a bit lazier as well

[tawny sand]

but i don't play merc

[gilded elm]

This isn't really true because you will reach a DPS ceiling with a single skill that will present you with a very hard wall that hits you like a truck.

You really need to use multiple skills to exceed that damage ceiling you would otherwise have focusing on just one or two skills.

[hexed stream]

the important keyword is synergy, otherwise 2 skills are worse than 1 skill used twice

[gilded elm]

Indeed.

Or a "combo" as Jonathan calls it hehe

Sorc has a lot of "set up" skills you can use while you're pumping your main damage skill. For example, drop Flame Wall, Storm/Solar Orbs and start firing away with Spark. Flame Wall, Raging Spirits, Spark and Storm Orb in particular synergize very well.

[tawny sand]

i think overtime they'll open it up, maybe not during ea but def over the game's lifespan

i could see the only one support rule being rid of eventually (i personally don't like it, but maybe i'm in the minority)

i mean i don't like the one support thing, i want to use multiple of the same support

that said, spark is pretty cool. Fun skill

i tried Arc but it seemed poopy

[gilded elm]

I put Pierce on my Spark. Also Spark through Flame Wall is quite satisfying

[tawny sand]

yeah i use pierce on spark

[gilded elm]

Yeah I didn't do Arc, mainly because it wasn't a projectile, just Lightning/Chaining I think

[tawny sand]

i think i'm using arcane surge right now on it as well, but i might change it idk

[gilded elm]

I went Stormweaver ascendency and you can get perma Arcane Surge with just your first 2 ascendency points, so if you plan on going Stormweaver you can probably drop the Arcane Surge support after.

[tawny sand]

i can't beat the stupid sanctum yet so i've just been doing the story lol

i need to try again

[hexed stream]

meanwhile I don't bother with trial of ascendancy till dunno which act, coz I'm a blood mage

[gilded elm]

Yeah perfectly doable and fine to skip ascendency for quite a long while I think

Come back later and it'll be much easier too

More important to do the side areas which reward permanent buffs like passive points and I think spirit?

[tawny sand]

i still only have 30 spirit and i've done everything so far i t hink

[hexed stream]

same, idk when I will get the remaining spirit

[gilded elm]

30 spirit in act 1, 30 in act 3, same pattern in Cruel. That's what I read

If you finish most of Act 2 and go back to the Trials, I think you'll find it suddenly is much easier than your first attempts

Also for sorc, I'm a big fan of the Escape rooms in the trials lol

[hexed stream]

so 120 in total, but I heard 1 of them is currently bugged

[tawny sand]

actually kind of having a hard time on the dreadnought, paths are so narrow

i got mana tempest now though

[fierce moth]

Just get up, saw GGG announced they fixed many bugs which I don't understand

[tawny sand]

oh wow refunding passives cost gets up there

[hexed stream]

lol, I do see streamers already zoom zoom the endgame mapping

[fierce moth]

👀 I hope refunding passives cost can down to 50 coins per point only. 247 per point is too expensive

[hexed stream]

I don't think you need to respec 20-30 points at the same time

and remember, respec also helps change the attribute on attribute node, you don't need to remove them and add again to select another attribute

[fierce moth]

Oh thanks, good reminder

[fierce moth]

All streamers who play sorcerer I seen is playing cold damage... I'm worried about how lightning damage in the late game going

[tawny sand]

guess i'll find out

i just got to jamanra

why does he have so much health dang

[gilded elm]

Jamanra! That was the dreadnaught boss. Man that was a fun one, surprisingly only took me 1 death unlike most other bosses lol

[tawny sand]

i'm bad at dodging the lightning

i can't get the timing down of the iframes so i get hit anyway

[gilded elm]

Me too, I think I was just barely tanky enough to get by hah

[fierce moth]

I'm curious about how to make stormweaver tanky

[gilded elm]

Dunno, guess 700 life and 350 shield was enough lol

[fierce moth]

For the choice of gears, should I stack armor or evasion except energy shield?

[gilded elm]

I dunno really, I heard evasion is really good right now

For now I just mostly do armor + energy shield

Also I use a wand + shield instead of a staff

[fierce moth]

I'm using a wand and a focus... 😢

[gilded elm]

maybe that's fine, means you should do a lot more damage than me at the same level, probably

[tawny sand]

i'm still using staff lol

[gilded elm]

assuming your focus has good mods

[tawny sand]

but most of it is cause that's just what i found

they be skimpy with loot after all

i did get a new helm with more life though

[gilded elm]

yeah, plus levels to spells is kinda hard to get seemingly. gotta take what you can get, usually that's just %increased spell damage really

[tawny sand]

i'm at 828 health and 314 shield

[gilded elm]

dont forget to add sockets if you got the currency for it and slot in some runes for resistance

[fierce moth]

Oh... See what I found lol

[tawny sand]

oh good point

i've been afraid to use currency sometimes cause it's so rare

last time i used an exalted it gave me light radius 😢

[gilded elm]

im living paycheck-to-paycheck with my currency lmao

i use it as soon as i get it, mostly

gotta take whatever i can get that gives me even a slight edge over my current situation haha

[tawny sand]

we struggling out here fr

[gilded elm]

need a stimulus package

[tawny sand]

real

once they add hideouts i'm gonna get evicted

[gilded elm]

none of my hideouts are even in PoE2 lmao

im homeless

[tawny sand]

lol

[fierce moth]

I need 250000+ damage per hit If I want to kill Jamanra quickly... Oh man you know what? My damage start from 99, 263. 467...

🫠 I'm bad at passive trees indeed

[gilded elm]

That's like the total damage, I think

So it's not that bad

[fierce moth]

🤭 Rob's character, his damage start from 15000

[gilded elm]

I think Jamanra was less than 5 minutes for me, seems reasonable

Don't always gotta be top DPS haha

Maybe it takes 5-10 minutes, that's okay

Means more time for you to practice the boss mechanics 🙂

[fierce moth]

:( Why just me have trouble with this combat

[gilded elm]

Don't compare yourself too much haha. Quin is a "bad player" meme personality, but he's actually really good at PoE. Unfair to compare to a very good player.

[fierce moth]

I just understand the ray from the luminious orb is regular on the direction

I always run so very easy to touch these ray

His character is very tanky too

[gilded elm]

Remember this is a player who only plays Hardcore Solo Self Found and has killed every uber boss multiple times in PoE1 HCSSF

That takes immense skill

[fierce moth]

hah yeah. I wish I can have have their skills

7 runes on his gear... It explains a lot 🤭 2 runes on my gear only

Find rare gears is a hard thing

[gilded elm]

This is why vendor is OP. Hoooly +2 levels and increased spell damage

I'm buying this in case I want to make a witch or some other chaos caster build later

[tawny sand]

ugh, jamanra is gonna take me a while

i just don't do enough damage during the second phase i think and run out of health charges

the iframes on the dodge are so narrow

i just can't get the timing right

[gilded elm]

Aargh damn you exploding crystals rare monster mod lol

[tawny sand]

y'all got any more of them regal orbs? lol

[hexed stream]

serrr, that's me

[gilded elm]

This is my life right now, in Act 3

[gilded elm]

You're a chaos caster build?

[hexed stream]

yes, that's me, since the beginning

[gilded elm]

Did you want it? For free, not really trying to sell it

[hexed stream]

nah, just saying, mine is something like that too, I got since act 1 and still use it now

[gilded elm]

Ah

Did you also get it from a vendor?

[hexed stream]

yes

vendor power

[gilded elm]

These fkin vendors lmao

Drop rates are trash cuz vendors are swipin the good shit

[hexed stream]

I'll see if I can get a focus with +1 spell skill

[gilded elm]

Been saving up a few focuses to try throwing some transmutes and augs at them later for the same thing

[gilded elm]

I feel so blessed

[hexed stream]

the water goddess sure is hot hehe

can't imagine the day I have more exalted orbs than chaos

bought for 1 ex, seems like it will last for quite long

[gilded elm]

Wow, unethical trading

That is poggers though, the scarcity does make you appreciate the itemization we really took for granted in PoE1 lol

[tawny sand]

someone just told me if you ctrl+click the hooded one he'll identify all your items at once

i don't have any items to try atm tho

[gilded elm]

Yeah Ctrl+Click NPC always selects a particular option automatically

Usually the Buy/Sell window if that's the only interaction they have

[fierce moth]

No worries, I still exploring the shrine... 30% areas still don't reveal yet

[tawny sand]

these maps do be chonky

[hexed stream]

this is very nice info lol

damn, look at this ring

[fierce moth]

Damn, why i don't have one :(

[hexed stream]

none of us has

us discord peasants 😅

[fierce moth]

Get lots of inspiration for my fan arts from poe 2 too 🫡
I captured many screenshots when I'm in a journey

Just done the boss combat in the shrine, time to go outside, go for a walk and buy some food

[hollow coral]

You don't have one because streamers are lvl 70 have 12% lightning res

I think I'm gonna wait for some tweaks first, right now it feels like the game doesn't give a damn about my time

[gilded elm]

Look at them cuties

[hexed stream]

600dps at near end act 2 before debuff, guess that's something

and boi, I'm gonna multiply that with this cutie

[gilded elm]

Indeed, and there's more of those throughout act 3, not common, but some

[hexed stream]

I think I'm extremely lucky to get it near end of act 2

[gilded elm]

Potentially, I think Jonathan may have also mentioned there are safeguards to ensure even the unluckiest player gets the bare essentials

Basically a kind of pity system

[maiden widget]

i had 2 total and am in a1 cruel

[tawny sand]

i just got my first jewel orb

also it's a crime that mobs can drop shards

tough rare? get one regal shard and a flask

[maiden widget]

better than a blue item and 3 50 gold stacks :p

[gilded elm]

nice drop

[hexed stream]

da hell is act 2 boss, when the wind happens, I just don't know where to run and not dying

Nvm, my fault for not paying attention

[gilded elm]

I know how you feel. That's how I felt about Balbala's mechanic.

[fierce moth]

😂...So I need to get a jeweller's orb if I want more support gem sockets!?
...Damn never see one

[fierce moth]

Yeah I feel the drop rate of rare items and currency are too low...

[tawny sand]

i didn't get one till act 3

[hexed stream]

long time no see, Mr. Sin

[fierce moth]

Only amulet, boots and body armor in my gear is rare... And current highest DPS from my skills is 395, it's fire skill... (Ember one) But my main skill is arc (290 only)

I want to switch to cold sorceress but I need the support of gears at first 😑

Too serious on gears support and currency support, really 😮‍💨

And my action skill is bad too so spent time for a boss combat is 5 mins at least :(

If GGG don't adjust the drop rate of currency and gears in a week, my progress will stop on act 2 :(

[gilded elm]

Imprisoned monster kicked my ass hahaha

Trail of Lightning hurts when I got no Shock reduction/avoidance

[tawny sand]

i have tons of lightning resist, it's the only resist i keep getting lol

i did finally get a fire resist ring though

[hexed stream]

da fuq, just beginning of act 3 another jeweller orb

[tawny sand]

i think the one in the first act 3 zone is guaranteed

if you looted it from a chest

[hexed stream]

ah yeah, maybe that's it

[tawny sand]

yeah i got one there too, after you fight the two rares?

[hexed stream]

then you need a medium and a greater to make 6L I suppose

[desert jasper]

First essence I saw was in act1 manor
and I got killed pretty much right away
2nd one I saw in act2 and actually could kill it this time around

[tawny sand]

oh essences can spawn in the acts?

i haven't seen a single one

[desert jasper]

They seem very rare

[hexed stream]

I got a few already, but won't touch it anytime soon, easier to accumulate the ex and buy from trade

[fierce moth]

@shut ferry I suppose I selected wrong character too if you mean the damage is too poor... But the poor gear influence my damage a lot indeed

Fire damage on my wand and lightning damage on my focus... I can't unit them together

Chaos and fire damage is pretty easy to find suitable weapons on my side... I'm confused

[shut ferry]

Im playing witch fire too, summon srs and hellhound, do you want to play together

[fierce moth]

I want to play lightning sorcerer build but my fire damage is over than lightning damage but Ember Fusillade hard to target the boss in the right time so I selected arc as the main skill...

Yeah sure but I'm not at home now... By the way how to add friends in ea?

We can play together even we're not on the same region?

[shut ferry]

I'm doing singapore realm

You ?

[fierce moth]

Hong Kong

[shut ferry]

Same same

I think we can do

[fierce moth]

😂 oh I thought you're on Europe

[shut ferry]

Haha no no i'm Asian

[fierce moth]

Are you Singaporean?

[shut ferry]

No 😛

I come from the same place with @stark pier

[hexed stream]

oh boi, I should join you 2 sometimes

[fierce moth]

Hhhhhh

Ok I meet three Vietnamese here now

[hexed stream]

man I still don't dare to do the 1st trial of ascendancy, when is the 2nd?

[shut ferry]

Idk, just got it 2 hours ago

my first trial

[hexed stream]

I could have done it yesterday but I play blood mage, so no point doing the 1st one without also doing the 2nd one at the same time

[shut ferry]

i stucked ar jamanra for half of a day.. got a guy came to help, couldn't kill jamanra without ascendancy

[fierce moth]

This is the last boss in act 2?

[hexed stream]

yeah
somehow I feel that boss is ways easier than act 1 boss

[fierce moth]

I hope so... I need to solve double bosses in bone pits at first

[shut ferry]

i kill court geonar easily...but the jamanra.. damn

btw add me

[fierce moth]

Let me show you how bad my action skill is after I go back home... 😆🤭
It'll very fun

I'm on the way now

[hexed stream]

I think I will buy this chest later, look nice, can help me offset 1st ascendancy, and no poison is great

[fierce moth]

https://youtu.be/FNCg1mA_D78?si=L_GNeFIw_N5B6Ghs

@tawny sand ok both of us don't think wrong on passive tree. His logic is a combo of our minds

[tawny sand]

oh nice ty, yeah he's got some similar nodes to me so far

i didn't know about the node cluster that's near "all natural" though, really nice

i was aiming for lightning quick, but i might refund for that

[tawny sand]

oh it seems i was wrong earlier then, lightning pen does matter a bit earlier than i thought

maybe not act 1, but probably by act 2 i guess which makes sense cause that's when i started seeing lightning resist enemies

[gilded elm]

Lightning Pen should work even against 0% res enemies AFAIK

[tawny sand]

oh huh, didn't know that

so kirra had the right idea earlier

i beelined straight for "pure power" node

[gilded elm]

Yeah penetration is extremely strong. Main difference between penetration and exposure is that penetration doesn't lower the target's resistance, it only changes the math as if the resistance was lowered. Exposure actually lowers the target's resistance.

[snow kestrel]

Double check the penetration info for PoE 2, I heard that it does not do anything to mobs with 0 res

[gilded elm]

Oh god I hope PoE2 didn't change this, considering they already massively nerfed conversion damage lol

[tawny sand]

"Having Penetration in a damage type reduces the effective resistance of enemies you damage with that type, thus increasing the damage they take. It only applies against positive resistances; it has no effect once the effective resistance is 0 or negative. "

from the poe2wiki

[gilded elm]

Well cursory google says PoE2 pen works different, as you originally expected

Which makes Exposure way way better if it's available to you

This might be why cold-based sorcs are popping off right now, Frostbomb has cold exposure I think lol

[tawny sand]

ah there's no wiki entry for exposure yet

but that's good to know

[gilded elm]

Basically means penetration is garbage for act 1, I think

Like you said

[tawny sand]

makes sense

[gilded elm]

But also there's a ton of penetration nodes readily available to the sorc's starting position that it does make you wonder... why

[maiden widget]

why do you think mobs have 0 res in act1?

[tawny sand]

i'm not sure, i just figured they wouldn't do it yet tbh

i don't have a better reason

[maiden widget]

id assume most bosses have at least a few res

[tawny sand]

maybe wolf guy has cold res, and bosses have res, but not normal mobs at least i figured

[ebon meadow]

They should go in to negative that's what I thought

Even if they have 0

[gilded elm]

I had picked it up from somewhere, don't know where... but it somehow became kind of an internalized understanding. Could've just been a passing mention I got from a stream for all I know, but I had taken to understand act 1 monsters tend to have little to no resistances at all.

[ebon meadow]

At least in Poe 1 they do

Do u even get to Res pen nodes in act 1 ? Unless u overlevel a lot

[tawny sand]

sorc does

[gilded elm]

Probably not too hard to check though, I could go back and look at the resistance icons for various packs across act 1.

[ebon meadow]

I m still pathing to mine

[ebon meadow]

Then theoretically it should go to negative

[gilded elm]

Penetration doesn't work like that in PoE2

[ebon meadow]

Otherway what's the point

[gilded elm]

I know, I just learned this.

[ebon meadow]

Hmm I guess sorc gets useless nodes at start then

[tawny sand]

yeah idk, i thought it was weird that there's that group of res pen early on

[gilded elm]

Penetration is still good and has value, it just doesn't have any value against monsters that have less resistance than you have penetration.

[ebon meadow]

I was basing of light Res only since that's what I m pathing to

[tawny sand]

but i'm used to grim dawn where you don't get the resist shred constellations till a bit later i think

[ebon meadow]

Coul of just been spell Inc damage for sorc instead of pen

My monk is ramping now had a such a rough start for first few zones XD should of went spells that strikes

[hexed stream]

good belt it is

[gilded elm]

Not terrible, decent life and has chaos res which will be very handy in Act 3

[tawny sand]

what does cruel lower resistances by? 25?

[ebon meadow]

Decent life decent chaos Res but it's not the belt as for rest items the rolls a very low

[snow kestrel]

Really nice if the small amount of str and armour actually add to your build too

2 good stats is a good item for me

[ebon meadow]

Mod tiers should really scale "Better" with levels imo

[gilded elm]

At this point I'll take a magic item with 2 good mods over a rare with 6 bad ones haha

[ebon meadow]

Exactly

It's like speed running campaign in Poe1 again

Better have blue and just throw an enchant on it than having a good rare with 6 unusable mods

[snow kestrel]

I found a lightning res ring with 70 or so life with 2 25% ele res suffixes and its probably the best item I've found yet

[gilded elm]

PoE1 campaign speed runs focused early on heavily on socket acquisition, I wonder what it's going to be like for PoE2.

[gilded elm]

That's nuts lol

[ebon meadow]

Uncut skill gems are not issue it's the supports that slacking the drop

[hexed stream]

the extra damage as.... damage is it strong?

[ebon meadow]

It probably is

[gilded elm]

If it does what I think it does, it should be quite strong yeah

[snow kestrel]

+skills weapon then socket crafting materials?

[ebon meadow]

It has always been first start of the game

My question is , do double welding second hand counts as old stat stick or it selects one of them per hit

Because that can be borked completely if it's like a stat stick

[gilded elm]

Can you target farm the socketing currency?

[ebon meadow]

You can

[snow kestrel]

Scrapping anything with a socket gives you 1/10 of a socket orb

[ebon meadow]

Anything with quality or sockets can be dismantled in to shards for it

[snow kestrel]

well, 1/10 per socket

[gilded elm]

Oh, already doing that. So just trying to farm for socketed gear then

[snow kestrel]

like its probably worth it to spend gold on buying socketed items from vendors and scrapping them

[ebon meadow]

Apparently quality on gear gives a shards to

[snow kestrel]

if you're speed running, and you've already found a good base

[gilded elm]

I don't think +skill levels on weapon is going to be easy, not enough transmutes and augs early on, unless you get lucky with a vendor or gamba

[ebon meadow]

They sort of common

But I haven't seen +1 to specific skill but the archytipe ones

[snow kestrel]

Are we talking start of league running through the campaign fast or someone trying for a world record?

[ebon meadow]

Like slams ,strikes ,spells etc

[gilded elm]

Just a normal league start campaign run, nothing competitive

Obviously people can take their time with it

[ebon meadow]

For now I found it crucial to actually do the side content in campaign to

[gilded elm]

Yes there will be an order to that sort of stuff as well

Like which is more optimal to do first etc

[ebon meadow]

Perma stats and stuff but the fact that u have to kill Bose's for so low drop is dumb

[maiden widget]

i have yet to find my first jewel for the 2 jewel slots i have

[ebon meadow]

We just going to end up searching one boss to farm for drop constantly

[maiden widget]

kinda crazy how nothing drops

[snow kestrel]

So you get a very slow but consistent rate of regals and socket orbs through disenchanting and scrapping, plannign around what you are going to spend those on as they become available is how I see leveling going

[ebon meadow]

It's so weird to drop exalts in act 1

[snow kestrel]

using exalts in act 1 felt amazing lmao

[gilded elm]

With these currency drop rates, the game really does make you choose between whether you want gold (sell gear to vendor) or currency (disenchant for regals), can't really have both lol

[ebon meadow]

The issue I found there speatially for act one there's no rares at all

I think I have found like 6-7 and I full cleared zones multiple times

So regals bad I would just go for gold and Gamba

The issue there u don't get much gold neither from low levels

[snow kestrel]

The act 1 strats I am clueless on, theres not much influence you have on gearing then yeah

[gilded elm]

I'm okay with the scarcity of rares, I just want them to bump the regal/exalt drop rates early game. I'm fine picking up potential bases and attempt to craft an upgrade, I just don't have enough currency to freely do that as much as I'd want.

[snow kestrel]

I didn't get any movespeed boots till the end of act 2

[gilded elm]

I didn't get any until I got to act 3

[snow kestrel]

so most of my currency went on boots I'd found

and jewelry, when it eventually dropped

[gilded elm]

The weighting on movement speed is absolutely atrocious lol

It rolls almost everytime on boots in PoE1, but the complete opposite in PoE2 haha

[snow kestrel]

I checked the shop every single time I was in town and saw no MS boots till end of act 2, I feel like they could up the rates on that specifically just for game feels sake

[tawny sand]

i just want movement skills back

i want a teleport 😦

[snow kestrel]

considering how much currency spent and how many boots I'd picked up