i l try all of them at the end witch ones i like is to find out lul
#📚┃off-topic
ebon meadow
gotta explore
i have done guardians and boses without Uber lab btw just in case
i really dont like lab
mental talon
I mean I've league started Sanctum and even did it as Melee this league was still pretty free but Ive got like 200 hours or w.e. doing Sanctum
viscid raptor
i mean i dont mind it but ye
i just didnt want to be forced into sanctum kek
lol
ebon meadow
i mean i dont mind it but ye
i would need to read the nodes before judging but same
viscid raptor
lol
gilded elm
Twitch drop back attachment. Looks freaky, I like it.
mental talon
I settled for the 160 dollar pack lol.
But I might upgrade later if I really like EA
gilded elm
Oh yeah, should probably grab one of the new packs.
I definitely overqualify for the free early access key, but was probably always gonna buy a pack any way.
mental talon
mental talon
tawny sand
finally got around to watching the poe2 presentation and yeah i was gonna wait a bit for the full release but this is impressive 👀
i might do early access after all
hexed stream
the first thing I heard they said was that although it's a beta, it's a big one, really big
and byy ggg standard of big, you bet it is
gilded elm
Keys for lifetime spenders who meet the threshold should be getting sent out over time, obviously before Dec 6.
I'll still buy a pack though, just because I want it.
tawny sand
i never spent a lot in poe1 so i gotta buy a key, i only ever bought the occasional stash tabs when new currencies came out and stuff
i'll probably just do a 30 usd pack, the cosmetics are whatever to me
gilded elm
GGG loves to capitalize on FOMO, they know there's always going to be a significant chunk of people buying the expensive, even most expensive packs because they're time limited. Not a fan, but I understand their business model considering it's a free game.
Rather, PoE1 is F2P, of course PoE2 won't be F2P until it releases out of Early Access.
tawny sand
the work on the endgame kind of makes it worthwile to me, i thought it was only going to be a few acts originally but they said they changed effort to endgame more later on in development in the video
so i was gonna wait till release originally, but might be worth diving in now tbh
gilded elm
You mean they said it was going to be 6 acts originally. They reprioritized to working on end game after the first 3 acts beacuse they realized end game is the main reason people play.
hexed stream
also there's a scandal with the most expensive pack, the physical gifts are god forbidden expensive to deliver
tawny sand
You mean they said it was going to be 6 acts originally. They reprioritized to w...
yah, i didn't think there'd be much of an endgame yet
gilded elm
Nobody had any idea how much end game there would be, at least not outside certain NDA'd circles.
That was the main question I was asking about too, which is the only thing that makes PoE2 worth playing or not in early access.
hexed stream
anyway, totally unrelated to poe or gaming, but this graph is darn interesting
gilded elm
I am skeptical of any chart without personally reading the methodology used for its datapoints lol
hexed stream
most likely collected by hospitals, those are the only data that matters
gilded elm
You would be surprised.
I read a bunch of epidemiological studies that try to sell you a narrative.
hexed stream
but it makes sense, doctors do say from time to time to have children before 35 for women, or not having it at all
and this is not a narrative
gilded elm
A significant chunk (if not majority) of nutritional studies for example are based on data collected through food frequency questionnaires. Same applies to a lot of epidemiology, much of it relies on self-reported data so I want to see the sources personally and read for myself.
hexed stream
not with fertility though, such data can only be available at hospitals
gilded elm
That's not true.
hexed stream
I don't know any part of the world outside africa that majority of delivery or pregnancy checkup are not done in hospitals
gilded elm
Fertiility can be roughly extrapolated through birth rates and rate of population growth, and that's my point. Depending on who is funding a study, the source and integrity of data can be greatly compromised.
hexed stream
fertility by biology is different from fertility by choice, you're confusing the 2
gilded elm
Like I said, I read a lot of epidemilogical studies and I have seen some messed up shit.
tawny sand
i wonder if we'll have loot filters fast for poe2
gilded elm
Studies that flat out say "X is bad for you" where the data is based only on asking people "do you do X?"
hexed stream
you can't ask anyone about biological fertility but doctors
but you sure can ask about social fertility
gilded elm
Correlations are the only end result necessary to sell a pretty chart.
That's why I'd much rather just see the source of the data personally
hexed stream
so you're saying old age for women doesn't affect their fertility at all, thereby opposing the known concensus for at least 100 years?
menopause also happens at around 40-50, and that's also not a narrative
gilded elm
It does, but how do I know it does according to the chart? Just link me the data it's based on, that's the iteresting part and it should definitely not be a contentious request to fulfill when you're making the initial assertion.
hexed stream
It does, but how do I know it does according to the chart? Just link me the data...
the chart shows very well there isn't it
35 years old, 0.5 or 50% fertility rate
gilded elm
It's an interesting chart, but all I'm saying is, "according to who?" in relation to that specific chart and that shouldn't really be hard to answer.
hexed stream
all the hospitals in the world, WHO, countries' ministries of health?
gilded elm
Really? You know for a fact that's the data being plotted in that chart?
I mean the website where the chart originated should show a source
It would be grossly negligent if they didn't
hexed stream
they should, but I don't bother with it, coz it's in line with my understanding about fertility
there are scientific facts that no narrative in the world can cover: older age = lower fertility mainly for women, and for both genders, older age = increasing rate of birth defects
sorry wrong words
so the key lesson from the graph is that whether you want to have children or not is your choice, but if you're a woman, don't regret your decision after 35 years old
gilded elm
I'm a science guy, I'm a big believer in science. That's also why I'm a big believer in verifying your facts. I don't tend to just take charts at face value. I understand and appreciate the chart is likely based on established data, but I still want to know the methodology by which that data was collected and aggregated to reach my own conclusions about the information being presented to me. I do this for a lot of things, which is why like I said I read a lot of research studies.
hexed stream
but does the chart contradict any of your understanding about biological fertility? asking th real question here
gilded elm
That's not the point. I seek to enhance my understanding by verifying the facts of the chart.
Otherwise, what is the point in the chart?
Yeah I know how reproduction and fertility works, but why show me a chart unless there was something in it that I maybe didn't know?
I could have instead asked what was so interesting about it which would presumably lead to some kind of previously unknown revelation, which just makes me ask the same question as before, according to who? lol
sand wigeon
dude
you can research yourself
it isn't the burden of random people online to educate you
gilded elm
Actually it is the burden of the person making the assertion to provide the source.
That is actually how it works
hexed stream
Otherwise, what is the point in the chart?
well, then we function differently, I don't do fact check for things in line with my understanding, only do it when it challenges mine
my point was to bring light topic, non-gaming related light talk into the table, but you seem to take it too seriously
gilded elm
In the real world lol
gilded elm
it isn't the burden of random people online to educate you
My education taught me about the Burden of Proof.
Well, in this case it's called the Onus of Proof
hexed stream
my education taught me about that too, only when you need to convince people, otherwise there's zero burden aka take it or leave it
gilded elm
But yes I did do some of my own research because I love data, I was just asking for a source
This infographic is released by the British Fertility Society with permission from BMJ Publishing Group, trying to find the original study it's based on.
hexed stream
I don't believe there's much difference between this graph and graphs that you take effort to find which have proper citation, but I'm glad if you can prove me wrong
gilded elm
Look at that
Based on a study from a sample size of less than 2000 in a single country.
Now I have a better understanding of the context of that chart.
And that matters to me.
sand wigeon
yes, the burden of proof exists
and yes, it is of the person making claims to bring evidence
but also. this is the official discord for last epoch
just no
go have this convo in dm's
gilded elm
"You got a source?" does not deserve an emotionally charged response.
sand wigeon
i just don't think mods would appreciate this convo lmao
gilded elm
I am not upset, you seem to be kind of bothered by this but I'm not.
sand wigeon
i see
gilded elm
So whatever conception of me you have, better to lose it.
hexed stream
also isn't this off topic?
gilded elm
It is.
gilded elm
"Go talk about this somewhere more off topic" is a rather short-sighted suggestion.
hexed stream
2 weeks till poe2
sand wigeon
how long until it's actually released? icr
gilded elm
also isn't this off topic?
Nothing personal, I just wanted to know because that is actually what fascinates me. Thanks for sharing.
sand wigeon
how long until it's actually released? icr
apparently they haven't said
so... who knows how long until i'll actually be playing
gilded elm
Nov 25 Mon
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Dec 10 Tue
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Feels good to have so much paid time off at the end of the year that I have to use because most of it won't roll over... should probably stop saving it all until the end of the year lolIt's going to be a truly degen season of gaming.
sand wigeon
hell yeah, happy for you
hexed stream
and hopefully right after I got potentially bored with poe2, TQ2 may come out
sand wigeon
so... who knows how long until i'll actually be playing
(i can't afford the $30 pre-access pack, for context)
gilded elm
I think Aaron said he predicts TQ2 will come out before Fangs of Asterkarn heh
gilded elm
(i can't afford the $30 pre-access pack, for context)
There's no doubt going to be tons of spare keys floating around if you got many friends who play PoE1.
tawny sand
man i hope tq2 is good
sand wigeon
There's no doubt going to be *tons* of spare keys floating around if you got man...
i do, but i'm pretty sure they're all using their keys
gilded elm
I expect a lot of PoE1 players will buy a supporter pack even though they will get a free PoE2 key, that's just what PoE players do... we buy supporter packs lol
So those people will have a spare key
sand wigeon
don't think any of them are dumb nor rich enough to do that
tawny sand
oh poe2 comes out on the same day or about that caves of qud 1.0 does nice
i'll be busy
hexed stream
don't think any of them are dumb nor rich enough to do that
too many to count, tbh
tawny sand
Is Qud still not 1.0? I thought it was lol
nah, 1.0 is dec. 5th i think
i think they're mostly just adding the rest of the story at this point though
so it's fully there more or less
gilded elm
Nice. Haven't done a proper Caves of Qud playthrough myself, but the endless procedurally generated possibilities does make it appealing
Roaming the lands as a mutant, evolving limbs and other powers lol
sand wigeon
i think the most recent game release that excited me is stalker 2
but i don't have a computer nearly good enough for that
mental talon
so... who knows how long until i'll actually be playing
Just a gut feeling but I dont think PoE 2 will go into 1.0 until fall or winter of 2025
sand wigeon
so it'll be quite a few years before i can play that
tawny sand
yeah i'm waiting till i upgrade my cpu for stalker 2
sand wigeon
aye, apaprently it'll be in early acces for AT LEASt six months
i have a laptop grade 3070 rtx lmao
gilded elm
At least 6 months and it will go from EA to release without a long period of downtime, only minor downtime (potentially) when they switch over to release
mental talon
I would assume in 2-3 months we'll get act 4 and another 3-4 after that for 5 & 6.
Realistically they probably don't go into 1.0 until 2026 is my honest expectation.
gilded elm
TLDR, PoE2's EA will run until release and will not end early.
Who knows if EA will remain paid until release. Maybe if release is looking like it'll take too long, they open the flood gates and make the F2P switch.
sand wigeon
perhaps
mental talon
If I was a betting man which I am, I dont think they will open it up until 1.0 realistically. They're probably going to make so much bank from people buying big supporter packs.
gilded elm
Maybe, and I could see that because supporter packs are just big FOMO purchases even without the beta key.
sand wigeon
even if i did have $30 it'd probably go somewhere else tbh
whether it be other media, like a book or smth, stuff for other hobbies, food, etc
hexed stream
$30 will give me another nice pet and a few quad tabs
sand wigeon
$30 can buy me one meal
tawny sand
i assume new zealand?
hexed stream
darn, $30 is 1 week food in my country, for 1 single person
gilded elm
If I remember, these supporter packs are supposed to work basically the same in PoE1 and 2, kinda nuts because it also has hideouts which will presumably work on both PoE1 and PoE2.
tawny sand
yeah i think the video said most if not all the stuff is for both 1 and 2
as a side topic, i've been playing the bazaar. it's alright. concept is cool, but the concept just reminds me of backpack battles lol
sand wigeon
there's a lotta backpack games around now
tawny sand
oh i didn't know there was more
sand wigeon
so. many
tawny sand
i do like it though, tickles my favorite part of when i played Magic which was drafting
gilded elm
There are quite a bit, though only other "backpack" type game I played is God of Weapons I think
tawny sand
same, ihad to stop playing cause it's so expensive in general
twilit mountain
The "backpack" games are weirdly satisfying
There's one that I play on mobile when I'm bored/away from my laptop and need something to do lmao
sand wigeon
can confirm, she plays it constantly
gilded elm
I guess it kinda scratches the gear/build itch. Just a self contained build in a backpack that you cleverly arrange.
sand wigeon
yeah, they're nice fun
i think the origianl backpack game that really sparked its sudden popularity was Backpack Hero
same way Vampire Survivors heavily popularized an already existing genre
gilded elm
That's the rat one, isnt it
sand wigeon
yeah
gilded elm
Sounds about right, I heard of that one and Backpack Battles around similar times
Both of them are in my backlog even... just more games waiting to be played
tawny sand
backpack battles is really good, i haven't played the other one
gilded elm
Bioweaver has been a recent one that has been interesting, not quite a backpack game, but plays kind of like a distilled PoE where gearing is based on creating your own organs and synergizing them in some kind of build, using a system very similar to PoE (sockets, triggers, supports etc)
Not bad for a few dollars lol
tawny sand
sounds kind of like magicraft with the way wands work, at least from the description
gilded elm
Yeah, it is a bit similar to Magicraft in that you can make some whacky builds using a flexible system
Instead of wands, I think you buy more brains to be able to perform more actions simultaneously haha
tawny sand
lol
maiden widget
damn looks interesting
fierce moth
POE 2 stream - 21:47 "note, you can own one of each support gem on your character"
It mean my character only can use single support gem and I need to think which skill I want to use support gem the most? Or it mean each skill can use single support gem only?
oh ohhh ohhhhhhh Congratulations for poe 2 can regret passive points by golds instead of useing regret orbs!@#%$!
hexed stream
oh ohhh ohhhhhhh Congratulations for poe 2 can regret passive points by golds in...
just like poe1 nowadays?
the thing different about poe2 support gems is that they don't give damage multiplier, and don't increase skill mana cost
fierce moth
why he say this sentence if it's the same
We can own multiplie support gems for a skill in poe
mental talon
POE 2 stream - 21:47 "note, you can own one of each support gem on your characte...
In PoE 2 you can't use the same Support Gem more than once. So for example if you have a "Greater Multiple Projectiles" support gem on one of your skills you can ONLY have it on that skill (you can move it to another skill if you would like) but you can ONLY have ONE of each support gem.
fierce moth
In PoE 2 you can't use the same Support Gem more than once. So for example if yo...
thanks!
I never think of multiple the same support gem on my character indeed...
mental talon
thanks!
I never think of multiple the same support gem on my character indeed.....
Yeah in current game you can support different skills with multiple of the same copies.
mental talon
This is exactly what I said above
fierce moth
I think it's different because
#1 I can't use the same support gem on the same skill
#2 I can't use the same support gem on different skills
One is can't repeat on single skill, one is can't repeat on multiple skills
simple needle
alwheezy what class are you playing
mental talon
I dont know yet but I'm drawn to Acolyte of Chayula Monk, Witchunter Mercenary, or Bloodmage Witch (I'm waiting to see if RF is in the early access)
maiden widget
I think it's different because
#1 I can't use the same support gem on the same ...
#1 is true for poe1 already and will be for poe2
#2 is true for poe2 but not for poe1
simple needle
i dont see cyclone or RF
fierce moth
(fall asleep again)
Oh the new labyrinth looks like combining plaza and forbidden sanctum 🤔
fierce moth
....I'm angry always when I want to do combats successfully but the latency keep jumping up and down then all of my actions are laggy
hexed stream
my advice: use vpn and connect to japan server, it's more stable than directly connecting to japan server
fierce moth
My keyboard can't wait to take a deep cleaning
hexed stream
good thing: regal orb and exalted orb will be much more common in poe2 than in 1, promoting more proactive crafting from players
socket system in poe2 is kinda like d4
and that chronomancer ascendancy, the skill that warps back time and recover life/mana, isn't that LE void knight skill?
tawny sand
they lifted the name from guild wars 2 tbh, smh
junior oyster
They took demon form from slay the spire
hexed stream
oh so atlas in poe2 is not the same in poe1, more like LE monoliths, but actually infinite without being surrounded by arobyss
and there's no longer map?
hexed stream
not just look different, it is now actually different
they did say infinitely expand
exotic wave
Yeah it's a combination of the old atlas and LE's monoliths
desert jasper
Also the location of the map on the new atlas shows what kind of biome it is
so sweet
exotic wave
also yeah they definintely want to make crafting a thing everyone does
think it might be a little like LE now where you're always on the look for 1 great mod and no bad mods
instead of a bunch of okay to good mod
fierce moth
Which one should I improve if I still be slain by a group of enemy in one shot?
This is the map I having trouble to pass
exotic wave
was it a spell or attack?
because right now that block is abysmal
like "why even bother having a shield" bad
if it was spell, seems like that 27% failure caught you
fierce moth
🤔 I wonder how are they deal with " -max resist + phy extra as elemental damage" modifier on a map
Except avoid playing this map
hexed stream
Just become more tanky
Wait till you juice your maps and find out that 99% extra damage as... is child's play
Altar alone already has -50% res and 300-400% phy extra as...
fierce moth
No idea when I can do that
Where can I use these materials?
oh wait...Map device too? Interesting, give it a try
hexed stream
This is useful when you don't have scarabs
fierce moth
🫡 New knowledge +1
So much new stuff I can try in poe hhh
Study in aboard is so happy
fierce moth
a? The pay of poor block chance is too much 🤔
ebon meadow
It's always better to share PoB the defences in that tab are static without Ur wind up power and without active flasks
In PoB we can configure the charges and buffs
fierce moth
In PoB we can configure the charges and buffs
This guy ruined my hope for completing this map completely... 🙃 Can you help me to kill him?
ebon meadow
Not on pc sorry I would
I m outside having after work drink it's been a loong week
Pls tell me that's not rotgut flask u have on 4 lol
junior oyster
I would but I already quit
junior oyster
Sorry dude I have no idea what that is
atomic rain
hi hi
junior oyster
Oh yea I forgot you mentioned it to me before
ebon meadow
Hard to explain tipping lol
atomic rain
i got accepted in the content creator program on lurkit for the game, now im confused what to do next?
ebon meadow
And it's first time different format to since it was pulled due to next league got postponed
ebon meadow
i got accepted in the content creator program on lurkit for the game, now im con...
I m taking a break for cc due some personal issues ,but I don't know what that is
fierce moth
i got accepted in the content creator program on lurkit for the game, now im con...
@kind wing will contract you
fierce moth
What a happy night in poe is because learnt something new again. Go to bed 💤
ebon meadow
What a happy night in poe is because learnt something new again. Go to bed 💤
Wait till Ur learn what happens when u put those fragments in order in map device 
4 of different ones makes like a sigil
And we use them to get Vaal gems as well or put more monsters to map if u put them along the map
fierce moth
I tried all of them one by one in the map device tonight
ebon meadow
Try making a circle with them putting them in order but prepare to die
fierce moth
So I'm sure I can't active map device when I put all of them in that
ebon meadow
4 slots 4 frags to make a sigil and it makes something speatial
fierce moth
ahah order...Alright I don't follow the order maybe
ebon meadow
So I'm sure I can't active map device when I put all of them in that
U have to have all 4 of them and place them to draw the sigil I m mentioning
I don't want to spoil to much
Like this
fierce moth
....I see finally
atomic rain
nice
atomic rain
sleep well if ur gna go sleep
atomic rain
aw
ebon meadow
Nvm I thought Kira pic is my post lol
atomic rain
haha
ebon meadow
I m really tired sorry
atomic rain
go get rest?
ebon meadow
Yea finish my drink and going home MAYBE play a lil or crash to bed directly
Don't even want dinner tonight
atomic rain
ah okay, do that , whats the time rn?
ebon meadow
Not even 9 pm
atomic rain
oh wow okay
ebon meadow
I should grab a pizza on way home if I go to bed now I l wake up like 4am XD sleep deprivation is a B 
ebon meadow
Yep pizza couple of beers stretch some hours ,still probably be up by 7 and got worky at 8:30
atomic rain
sounds good tbh
ebon meadow
Other way I screw my schedule again
atomic rain
yeahh try not to do that
ebon meadow
O many years of gaming with people from all over I switch my schedule monthly it's fine
As long as I get 6 hour sleep I m fine
atomic rain
ah yeah , understandable, aslong ur fine thats okay i suppose
id love some pizza rn but cant get any
ebon meadow
Yea grabbing one for home and probably do some gaming before sleep need to hold that tiredness
Or tomorrow going to be a zombie xdd
atomic rain
yeah sounds good tho, enjoy pizza and gaming, its a awesome combo
yeahh not recommended xD
ebon meadow
What caind of content u do Game exploration or u have a specific genre ?
atomic rain
variety games usually 😄
ebon meadow
Same ,I have a thing for early acces and alphas
I like trying different things speatially survivals
atomic rain
niiice 😄 lot dbd, today did cod black ops 6 i downloaded it yesterday from xbox game pass, was fun to play and aswell zombies mode on it, play minecraft too, phasmophobia, do love open world and survival games, crafting etc
love bg3 aswell, throne & liberty is awesome too 🙂
really want to get into this game
ebon meadow
Well welcome to hardcore Arpgs and hope u have the hours to put in them
ebon meadow
Been there ,I don't have a family to take care of so all my free time goes to gaming
And it does require it to 18 hours a day even without job just for recording and editing is enough for a not normal person lol
Zooming home so my internet stop cutting of from place to place
atomic rain
yeahh
zooommmmm
its tough being unemployed, tryin to get somewhere in streaming world to maybe help w. financial problems, cant work either due to mental health being quite bad
ebon meadow
i dont even have mental health anymore (just jk) but creating content had me busy for a long time without thinking of RL
atomic rain
yeahhh
ebon meadow
just push and put effort in to it it l work
atomic rain
<@1058590499587502180> will contract you
hey you online foton?
ebon meadow
can i even check how many videos i made ? prety sure i v seen this on phone but now doubting since i cant find it on PC lol
atomic rain
no clue man
ebon meadow
i memebr like 605 videos but i m doubting now XD
ebon meadow
and i do it as my hobby i still like my physical worky for my own healths i just liked having a chanell and managing it
atomic rain
fun tho 😄
ebon meadow
and if i can help a single soul in any way thats a + to me
atomic rain
yeah thats good if so
ebon meadow
everything i know is from content creators so why not give comunity back , time is expensive but i have plenty of it
with hyperactivity
ebon meadow
yeah thats good if so
and i would recomend checking out PoE u have infinite posibilities there with the new stuff comming , no spoilers
atomic rain
what's poe? again
atomic rain
everything i know is from content creators so why not give comunity back , time ...
yeahh
ebon meadow
what's poe? again
path of exile
atomic rain
ah yes
ebon meadow
so Last epoch , Path of Exile and Diablo 4 will cover all year work for u just in one genre of games
rest is a bonus
atomic rain
ive had thoughts of playin poe, but havent gotten to it haha
ebon meadow
go to YT tipe poe and filter last 24 hours
we go really hard
there was someting speatial yeasterday
theres a rumor and i go along with it , game of the decade
just for early acces
atomic rain
ohhh nice!
ebon meadow
dont get me wrong we were expecting LE to pick up the pace and be as great and i m not ass kissing here the game have a huge potential
atomic rain
for sure it does
ebon meadow
its a thing of what u enjoy and what u can pull out as content creator LE is a "bit"more casual but still has its deph as a hardcore Arpg
atomic rain
yea
ebon meadow
also i m comparing a 2009 game with a recent release so yea its hard to value between
atomic rain
yea
gilded elm
SSF is so freaking hard in PoE lol. I've been practicing SSF in trade league, but man it's hard even with using the currency exchange to get materials.
https://pobb.in/zpzypt-6KdPz Seems normal for SSF damage according to poe.ninja, but damn
ebon meadow
SSF is so freaking hard in PoE lol. I've been practicing SSF in trade league, bu...
i practice fresh start before every event and its usually in ssf lol getting stuck is a normal thing there
ebon meadow
is the EHG named people some staff os something like that?
devs
atomic rain
aah ya okay
ebon meadow
but dont DM them
ask in public and if they have time they will answer like always DMing can just be skipped
atomic rain
yea np about that
ebon meadow
they have thousands of dms and they cant cover it all
atomic rain
i bet
atomic rain
haha okay
ebon meadow
the fact we can even have devs in the discord is already amazing , just need to consider that apart from their job they have the wole comunity spaming them with questions and they can only reply to some things
they are still humans aparently
atomic rain
apparently yea xD
ebon meadow
we do have discord staff and they are friendly maybe they can help
atomic rain
maybe so, but ill just sit and wait now
ebon meadow
YUP not much u can do for now
atomic rain
yap 🙂
mental talon
I'm on this SSF run until PoE 2 just collecting all my fragments to do 7/7 Ubers and then I guess logout? Idk I wanna play PoE 2 lmao
ebon meadow
jump on the hype train lul
atomic rain
hype
ebon meadow
7 days BPL and sitting in discord with 60+ users without background noises without dram , just sweaty players comunicating
ebon meadow
hype
btw i m curious now have u ever played an ARPG like diablo or grimdown or of some sort ?
gilded elm
@hexed stream https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981
Like I said 🙂
So far only the newer MTX has been ported to PoE2
gilded elm
pff man i dont think i even care
This is exactly what I told minimap. Most people don't give a shit, but he said there would be a riot of players hehe
atomic rain
monster hunter rise and world, final fantasy 14, lost ark, new world, throne and liberty
ebon meadow
i will play as many chars as i can but probably maining with and then monk
ebon meadow
monster hunter rise and world, final fantasy 14, lost ark, new world, throne and...
ohh , u dont know 🙂
atomic rain
dont know what
atomic rain
ive seen videos of ths game 🙂
ebon meadow
getting along rinse and repeat is the first rule
u l be doing same stuff a looooooooooot of times
but theres a reward
ofc
atomic rain
yea im aware xD
ebon meadow
i m not spoiling
what cobat do u like ?
mele , range , caster etc etc
what was ur main in lost ark ?
atomic rain
caster / range mostly
ebon meadow
good
mental talon
<@1040469725416788038> https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981
I literally don't care. I know it will come later and I'm sure most sensible people feel the same way. I just want to play the game
atomic rain
yes :3
ebon meadow
I literally don't care. I know it will come later and I'm sure most sensible peo...
it could be black and white figures i would still play to explore mechanics lmao
the fact we have that amount of gameplay in EA is just stupid i really hope servers can hold
i m still trying to comprehend 25 hours act 3
mental talon
Yeah like why would I be concerned about not having every single MTX when EA starts. Who cares I'm playing the game lmao. That crap can come later
ebon meadow
yes :3
u picked LE and probably the best one to start with , best thing out of game u can stay away from meta and just do u own thing
gilded elm
I literally don't care. I know it will come later and I'm sure most sensible peo...
Yep, and this is how I expected most people to feel. Just wanted to settle this argument lol
atomic rain
yess
ebon meadow
later u can look in to people and just have a god character
gilded elm
The FAQ basically said the vast majority of PoE1 cosmetic MTX won't be in PoE2's EA launch, only the newer stuff.
And nobody is rioting.
ebon meadow
first time i m hearing this lol i dont care if the poe1 mtx are not avaliable at EA
and probably expect them to be implemented 6 months in as longest
gilded elm
Agreed, it will all come later and everyone is okay with that.
ebon meadow
ofc they put them in
if they said so they l do so we have it learned
i didnt even think about having them during EA
but on game release
i prefer they focus on not melting down they servers then care for MTX when the 1st game is still running and having updates
gilded elm
Yeah, EA and release are different things of course and if the game releases, it better be "complete"
I'm glad they reprioritized to focus on end game content.
ebon meadow
one phrase last night got the world twisted
even we dont know all the outcomes of the combos
gilded elm
It just makes complete sense. Who cares about having a full campaign? Nobody. I'm glad GGG realized this before it was too late and had time to change course.
ebon meadow
skill combos are gonna be sick
gilded elm
Yeah it'll be interesting to see the possible builds. The end game pacing definitely felt slower, but you could tell it was still gonna be somewhat zoomy, maybe on the same scale as D4 or LE.
ebon meadow
It just makes complete sense. Who cares about having a full campaign? Nobody. I'...
i mean it was rude giving us that act1 beta in d4 after such a long time and having this sort of competion XD
gilded elm
i mean it was rude giving us that act1 beta in d4 after such a long time and hav...
Yeah D4 open betas were a joke. An even bigger joke is that D4 had closed betas too and everyone told them end game sucked and they released the game any way.
ebon meadow
Yeah it'll be interesting to see the possible builds. The end game pacing defini...
like clear wise it looks slower but yet again like theres more monsters to kill , i just want to know the XP pace
ebon meadow
Yeah D4 open betas were a joke. An even bigger joke is that D4 had closed betas ...
i enjoyed the beta but it took like what half a day ?
where gameplay
gilded elm
D4 open betas had you limited to act 1, ashava and max level 20-25
ebon meadow
i enjoyed the beta but it took like what half a day ?
i probably spend more time setting up town this league than playing d4 beta
gilded elm
Ugh, gotta set up hideout again lol
ebon meadow
if i was younger i would have 24hr alarm set up for shipments
ebon meadow
Ugh, gotta set up hideout again lol
should save layout probably
if my HO resets i m done for it
i should have a save to xd
gilded elm
Somehow I doubt hideouts saved in PoE1 can be imported in PoE2 lol
ebon meadow
no they cant the layouts there have diferent mechanics
and u hurt me with remebering how cool was the 480 bucs one was
thats a poke xdd
gilded elm
There is an exclusive hideout in the $480 pack?
ebon meadow
yes
u have multiple islands to decorate
just in case not sponsored btw
but the atlas HOs sound a lot cooler to me if they work the way i think they do and u can have multiple ones
gilded elm
I'll be happy I guess as long as I can still have a minimalist hideout
ebon meadow
says the guy who have nebula hideout xdd
atomic rain
480 wow? irl money?
ebon meadow
jk the place is amazing
ebon meadow
480 wow? irl money?
yup
exotic wave
MTX is a hell of a drug
Anyways here's a gun, go commit a crime and buy the 1k support pack
shoves gun in Zewro's hand
ebon meadow
they are just for visuals and poe is a free game
gilded elm
Pay 2 Lose
ebon meadow
and i m not mentioning bigest suporter packs lmao
atomic rain
Anyways here's a gun, go commit a crime and buy the 1k support pack
oh hec no!
i dont got such money
gilded elm
That's what the gun is for
exotic wave
HENCE WHY YOU COMMIT A CRIME
ebon meadow
lmao
atomic rain
;p
exotic wave
I say, you just can't lead this next generation to water and expect them to take a drink
It's a disgrace boy
A disgrace
ebon meadow
i liked the cheapest pack and the 480 one
for some dumb reason i already thnk i l end up having both
maybe not in EA but eventually
exotic wave
lol just get it in EA and give keys to friends
or enemies
PoE is for both really
(for very different reasons lol)
ebon meadow
yea if u play POE friends and enemies are realated
normal people dont play this
i m still in wonder and if we get mirror or similar item (i dont have colection issues)
ebon meadow
did u just called me ugly ?
god i have been to hype
i just want to play the video game
atomic rain
game my dude
ebon meadow
i cant , event in 8 days EA is i dont even know when xd
i need to rest and start adopting to the hours
start practicing act runs this weekend maybe becouse i got a freaking champ as ascendancy for BPL
slam time i guess
gilded elm
I'm on this SSF run until PoE 2 just collecting all my fragments to do 7/7 Ubers...
Honestly I don't know how people get to Ubers in SSF. I'm practicing SSF by only trading currency and even that's been rough, but at least the damage is "normal" for an SSF Ascendant according to poe.ninja, heh https://pobb.in/zpzypt-6KdPz
mental talon
Honestly I don't know how people get to Ubers in SSF. I'm practicing SSF by only...
Depends on what you play I guess. I'm doing a Trickster because I wasn't plan on playing for 3 months or w.e. so I had all 4 of my voidstone s by the next week on a 5 link lol
gilded elm
Yeah I think the real problem here is Ascendant + LS of Arcing are not a particularly good combo.
lmao there's only 1 person who added their character to poe.ninja for LS of Arcing Ascendant... and it's not good haha https://poe.ninja/builds/settlersssf/?class=Ascendant&skills=Lightning+Strike+of+Arcing
Yeah there's so many other better skill gems for SSF Ascendant, sheesh why do I always corner myself into bad builds lmao https://poe.ninja/builds/settlersssf/?class=Ascendant&sort=dps
mental talon
Yeah in SSF/SAF I aim for more powerful/easy to start comboes because of how Limited you are tbh. I ain't tryna be cute and get stuck hating my life 😂
gilded elm
Yeah that's definitely the play. I need to plan ahead and stop winging SSF and hoping any build can scale
That DPS should be illegal on SSF lmao
mental talon
I'll make my stupid awful builds in trade league like everyone else
gilded elm
LS of Arcing Ascendant on trade league actually isn't bad. I mean it's not crazy damage, but more than enough for Ubers.
If I remember, ubers only need a few million DPS to comfortably clear
atomic rain
😄
hexed stream
anyone professional at using pob can check my ehp and dps, I don't know sh!!t about configuring it correctly
gilded elm
Most of that will just be in your Configuration section and is also dependent on your build, for example my current build uses the Trinity support gem so I needed to make sure I set the "Lowest Resonance Count" to 50, "Rage" to 30 etc. Also flasks should be either activated or deactivated in your Items section depending on how good your uptime is.
gilded elm
But at least PoB will only show you Config options that are relevant to your current build, for the most part. So it shouldn't be too overwhelming tinkering with this section.
Okay this is kinda huge for LS of Arcing, I really need to get a cluster jewel with this into my build ASAP
That notable will be a big boost to my single target damage.
hexed stream
Most of that will just be in your Configuration section and is also dependent on...
prolly need to watch a video to see how
gilded elm
prolly need to watch a video to see how
Ziz has a video on this specifically that I did watch recently, maybe it's somewhere close to the top of my watch history.
hexed stream
1h vid, too long
gilded elm
Feels like the one I watched was shorter, but can't find it. It's fairly easy to just experiment and learn, realistically it's just checking relevant boxes.
narrow token
Someone please tell me there's a way to alter the text on PoE's tooltips. I hate how it's centered instead of left justified. Reading it that way is aggravating.
gilded elm
Nope. Kind of interesting they also went with centered tooltips in PoE2. Had to just get used to it, heh.
hexed stream
very strange I enable 82+ rare jewels to show, but now I throw my 85 jewel on the ground, it doesm't show, any idea why
gilded elm
Is the 85 jewel a different rarity? Normal, magic or unique maybe
hexed stream
only rare
wait actually ilvl for jewels doesn't matter right? I see in craft of exile that every mod can drop at ilvl 1
everything is t1 mods
gilded elm
I'd have expected ilvl to matter for mod tiers, but maybe not for jewels
hexed stream
I check again for abyss jewels later, but anyway, it still doesn't show any of my jewels on the ground
this is messed up
ok it works now, I set all jewels to any and all abyssal jewels to 86
gilded elm
bro wut lmao
Screw you game
I hope I hit the lucky 10% and keep the other one too lmao
hexed stream
pray the other one doesn't wither
gilded elm
No such luck lol
hexed stream
lol, spent all my 20 div buying scarabs just now
gilded elm
That's a lot of scarabs lol
hexed stream
good drop
hexed stream
That's a lot of scarabs lol
yeah, basically 80 times strongbox strat
hexed stream
This is the most rare currency?
yes, most will not drop it once in their life
fierce moth
hhhhh do you own one?
gilded elm
Farming what from strongboxes? Scarabs, cards, currency?
hexed stream
Farming what from strongboxes? Scarabs, cards, currency?
yeah that's the main things to farm for from the strat
gilded elm
Nice
I always spec into strongboxes in my Kirac tree, quick and easy resources.
Ambush scarabs have been selling well too
hexed stream
well not that one, I'm consuming that scarab to farm for other scarabs
gilded elm
Well yeah, I mean I don't farm strongboxes primarily, so I just sell my extra Ambush scarabs if I ever go completely broke lol
Usually I'm mainly just trying to get more maps which cartography strongboxes can be good for
hexed stream
with strongbox strat, I have to buy extra map runners, even without any carto scarab used, they just drop too many
fierce moth
22 basic scarabs and 86 advanced scarabs...
A long journey to figure out which scarab do what and remember all of them
My strategy is just throw random 3 scarabs on map device to explore what are they do
hexed stream
My strategy is just throw random 3 scarabs on map device to explore what are the...
I advise not to, you don't randomly use them until you spec to endgame atlas strat
without atlas tree support, using scarab is throwing money out of the window
gilded elm
Some scarabs are very common and okay to use early, though. Like the ones that guarantee certain content will be in your map, Bestiary, Harvest, Blight etc.
But you can always spec your tree to guarantee specific content, too.
Most scarabs will just make your maps harder and will be worthless without investment into your Atlas tree, though.
hexed stream
somehow already gain back 10 div after just 1 run
gilded elm
Easy money
hexed stream
I was lucky though, got the div card worth 4 div, and raw 4 divine
mental talon
This about to be the longest 2 weeks ever man.
hexed stream
price is really weird
hexed stream
@fierce moth trapper likes this item
fierce moth
🤭 Such a pity that what I 'm throwing is mines, not traps
hexed stream
oh lol, I was using weapon swap to kill enemies, no wonder I insta die
fierce moth
Like this
I activated... The apex of sacrifice 🤔
Damn, these bleeding arrows are too annoying
....That's odd. 100% avoid to bleeding but i still lose my health quickly
gilded elm
Maybe it's Corrupted Blood, which is different from Bleed.
That's why a lot of people just put bleed/corrupted blood immunity on a life flask
fierce moth
😢 only this way to avoid corrupted blood? Flask needs charges
gilded elm
There's other ways... like
- Protection Mastery in Passive tree has Corrupted Blood immunity
- Corrupted jewels can sometimes roll Corrupted Blood immunity on their implicit mods
- Get better flask charge recovery, either through Flask Mastery in your Passive tree or from a mod on your flask like "Gain X charges when you are hit" or "Critical Strikes have X chance to restore charge" or whatever.
Flask mod is probably the most optimal because it doesn't waste any passive tree points
tawny sand
i'm glad they separated witch and sorc for poe2
i think i'm gonna go sorc my first playthrough
gilded elm
Indeed, they separated most classes it seems like. We're still getting all of the original PoE1 classes in PoE2 (eventually), but they won't have the same ascendencies.
It'll be interesting to see how the Marauder differs from the Warrior when they finally add it.
tawny sand
yeah i'm curious about that too, i thought marauder would have more totem specialization but it seems that's going to warrior (unless i'm misremembering)
gilded elm
If the warrior is more totem-focused, then sounds kind of like it'll be some mix of Totem Chieftan and Totem Hierophant
fierce moth
👍 Ok I find that
gilded elm
Nice
tawny sand
If the warrior is more totem-focused, then sounds kind of like it'll be some mix...
i meant i think warrior has a totem ascendancy? maybe i'm wrong though
i'd have to rewatch the video, i don't really remember tbh
gilded elm
Maybe, not sure on that either. But in general it did seem like they wanted the individual classes to be a bit more specialized, hence why Sorc got split from Witch and Witch became more Necromancer and Occultist focused and Elementalist is now part of Sorc most likely.
I mean the ascendencies obv have different names, but yeah
tawny sand
yah
i wonder if the druid type class will have a nature magic ascendancy, or if it's primarily shapeshifting
nature magic would be cool af
fierce moth
......... But I still slain by the same damage
gilded elm
Definitely could see Druid getting some kind of Nature ascendency, that's just super thematic lol
Maybe even Huntress too.
gilded elm
......... But I still slain by the same damage
Look at the icon affecting you, to learn what it is
Maybe it's some kind of chaos damage over time.
tawny sand
oh i didn't realize huntress was a class
oh wow poe2 has more classes than i thought it did
gilded elm
12, yeah
All of the PoE1 classes (except Scion) + 4 more (Warrior, Huntress, Monk, Sorceress)
tawny sand
i thought it was like for stat combinations that weren't in 1, so like 9 classes altogether
gilded elm
Nah full class list reveal was one of the very early things we learned about from an ExileCon trailer a long while ago.
Oh forgot about Druid actually lol
hexed stream
Indeed, they separated most classes it seems like. We're still getting all of th...
monk is new no? feel exactly like d3 monk and d4 spiritborn
gilded elm
https://youtu.be/Go4ykizk_Uo But yeah the full class list is here
hexed stream
@fierce moth one of the most profitable activities in poe1, it's called hideout warrior
gilded elm
Monk is new, yeah
I'm not sure if Monk is a completely original class or if it kinda split off from an existing class like Sorceress obviously did
tawny sand
oh huntress seems like javazon 👀
gilded elm
Yeah I'm kinda hyped for Huntress
Really wanna play a Javazon in PoE lol
Too bad we don't get Huntress in early access
Was planned, but unfortunately had to be delayed for further work
tawny sand
i assume it'll get added later into the EA, but idk
i imagine they'll want to test it
gilded elm
Yeah of course. Everything will be added into the early access, most likely.
Just, over time.
hexed stream
and it's a good thing they slash campaign development, so that we can have full endgame
gilded elm
Early access isn't a limited time beta, it will go on until the moment of the game actually releases.
fierce moth
Last chance...I switched a shield against projectile damage....I hope it work
gilded elm
So you can expect almost everything in terms of classes and such will be ready and added to EA.
fierce moth
alright it don't work unfortunately
gilded elm
I expect that PoE2's development will progress much quickly while in early access mainly because they won't have the same luxury they do now where they can completely redesign aspects of the game without backlash because nobody has played it yet lol
One of those things where once you release it, it's hard to take it back.
(Which is also why PoE1 is kind of in the state that it is today)
gilded elm
I keep seeing 6 months being thrown around, not sure if that's official or not.
simple needle
feels like they alr have act 4 to 6 80% done and some classes like the druid ready too
tawny sand
I keep seeing 6 months being thrown around, not sure if that's official or not.
i think in the ziggyd interview they said at least 6 months, maybe longer though if needed
gilded elm
Yeah, they said they could have all of the acts finished by launch if they wanted, but then end game would be lacking so they shifted priorities. So I think you're right, it's probably mostly done.
simple needle
they definitely keeping the story and lore for later
kinda spoilery if we knew the story in the EA
hexed stream
I wonder how long will poe2 last before it becomes zoom zoom again
gilded elm
Doubt it's because of that. They said (and I agree) that end game is more important than a campaign and decided to change focus. Honestly seems like common sense but it took GGG until the eleventh hour to realize this and Diablo 4's release was this exact problem and why release itself was such a monumental failure in terms of reception (obviously a financial success, still)
Also, while I am a D4 enjoyer as well, I thought it was funny that Blizzard did a campfire on the same day PoE2 had their livestream haha
tawny sand
i hope it's a good difficulty, the funny part with D4 was that they tried to make it more like d2, but i was one shotting bosses before i even got to WT3 in the base game, it didn't really feel like a good difficulty again till i started doing NMDs
and even then with the NMDs i was mostly just dying to cc chains which they've since changed i think
i didn't even know there was a d4 campfire OOF
gilded elm
D4 was only designed to be "like D2" when it was released. They immediately changed focus to make the game more accessible to their targeted console audience, though. That's why it ended up being a much simpler game than it was when it released.
simple needle
will you still be a d4 enjoyer after poe2
gilded elm
I would if I had the time, don't know how I can manage 18 hours of PoE, 6 hours of sleep and still somehow squeeze in D4.
🙂
simple needle
I would if I had the time, don't know how I can manage 18 hours of PoE, 6 hours ...
I already find it hard to squeeze LE and other games too
tawny sand
idk, it depends on where they take D4 to me
i was kind of disappointed with the expansion
fierce moth
😂 Unfortunately the last boss I left is the hardest one...Alright. Armour, armour, armour....And physical mitigation
gilded elm
D4 is permantly entrenched as a casual game. That's not a bad thing, but you gotta know that's who they are catering to.
sand wigeon
i mean
tawny sand
oh yeah i don't mind it's casual, i just though the expansion was disappointing
gilded elm
So if you ever just want an ARPG you can log into, blast for 15-30 mins, log out and feel like you did something meaningful, then D4 will still be a great experience for you I think.
tawny sand
the undercity was cool feature though
sand wigeon
i wanna clarify that casual doesn’t mean less complex, not that i believe you think that
hexed stream
Also, while I am a D4 enjoyer as well, I thought it was funny that Blizzard did ...
and have a 50% sale as well
sand wigeon
i have seen very good arpg players who’ve been playing them for years upon years, have thousands of hours in poe snd still struggle with properly pathing and defining paragon boards
anyway
monk for poe2 looks like so much fun
(just watched the gameplay reveal)
simple needle
Flicker Day 1
gilded elm
Certainly D4 is a game with less depth. It's designed to allow you to do more in less time, effectively. There's always going to be things to learn, but like PoE, D4 also has build guides and basically if you follow a build guide in D4 you will certainly trivailize the game in far less time than you would doing the same in PoE.
simple needle
probably a stave build
sand wigeon
Certainly D4 is a game with less depth. It's designed to allow you to do more in...
aye
none of that a bad thing
just a different beast
gilded elm
Not at all a bad thing.
sand wigeon
plus, d4 has an infinitely better campaign experience than 99% of arpg’s
though i’m expecting poe2 to match upon full release
gilded elm
We'll see, I have high hopes for Titan Quest 2 and PoE2
tawny sand
the expansion campaign wasn't that good imo
sand wigeon
they’re both incredibly funded games
gilded elm
Well yeah, VoH campaign kinda sucked
gilded elm
I'm sure you'll get to experience it yourself at some point, I just didn't think it was up to par with the original campaign.
simple needle
Expansion campaign was bad
tawny sand
i liked the zones though
gilded elm
Zones are cool, yeah
tawny sand
nahantu is a cool region
sand wigeon
games be expensive when you have no income fr
tawny sand
i was about to say lol
simple needle
I think POE2 did the aztec theme better than D4 alr
gilded elm
I do like the vibes yeah
hexed stream
I think POE2 did the aztec theme better than D4 alr
coz they have real life reference, blizzard doesn't
gilded elm
You know, I was kinda thinking that
hexed stream
and it's not exactly aztec vibe, it's maori vibe to be accurate
simple needle
coz they have real life reference, blizzard doesn't
Real life reference how so
sand wigeon
which makes sense as poe was inspired by diablo
gilded elm
I assume there's heavy Maori influences in PoE's design, though I haven't checked to confirm this
hexed stream
Real life reference how so
maori people are native to NZ
simple needle
its more aztec with the stairs to temple tho
gilded elm
I just assumed that because GGG is from NZ, that they took a lot of influence from Maori culture
sand wigeon
aye, they have
hexed stream
its more aztec with the stairs to temple tho
that's not unique to aztec
sand wigeon
yeah
sand wigeon
the mayans alone had similar structures
simple needle
They did both Maori and aztec im sure
hexed stream
if you check the ancient hindu temples across south and southeast asia, it's kinda the same vibe too
sand wigeon
pyramids are a rather universal shape
and especially with variants made to be traversed due to religious beliefs, for example, it makes sense to give them stairs
simple needle
well anyway, I think they both can have real life reference
sand wigeon
and especially with variants made to be traversed due to religious beliefs, for ...
which is why egyptian pyramids don’t typically have stairs in the same manner, they weren’t meant to be traversed
hexed stream
of all ancient civ, I think only the chinese and the greek (then roman) didn't give a flying fk about tall structures except statues
gilded elm
Respect to any ancient civilization that could raise pyramid structures, they had good math teachers.
hexed stream
all ancient civ had darn good mathematicians, but somehow only the greek ones got credit
sand wigeon
pyramid sturdy, we make pyramid
hexed stream
pyramid sturdy, we make pyramid
then we make pyramid scheme
tawny sand
the greeks like building on tall areas though, like the parthenon. but i guess that's not the same as a tall structure
sand wigeon
pyramid scheme not sturdy, it fails
simple needle
of all ancient civ, I think only the chinese and the greek (then roman) didn't g...
Are the Pagoda's counted
gilded elm
One thing that bothers me about D4's aesthetic is... I think maybe the shading. It just doesn't feel as dark as it should.
hexed stream
Are the Pagoda's counted
yes
tawny sand
One thing that bothers me about D4's aesthetic is... I think maybe the shading. ...
lighting maybe? i get what you mean tho i think. it has a lot of ambient light
hexed stream
One thing that bothers me about D4's aesthetic is... I think maybe the shading. ...
well darker than d3
poe2 is also a lot brighter and more lushful than poe1
simple needle
well darker than d3
poe2 is also a lot brighter and more lushful than poe1
I like the colours and flowers they decided to put in
gilded elm
lighting maybe? i get what you mean tho i think. it has a lot of ambient light
Yeah, just doesn't feel like the pit of hopeless despair that it should be lol
sand wigeon
vibrant visuals make gameplay easier as things are much easier to see due to contrast
it's a game design thing, not just an art thing
hexed stream
Yeah, just doesn't feel like the pit of hopeless despair that it should be lol
with that 10000T damage, how can sanctuary be hopeless
gilded elm
lol
It might just be rose tinted glasses, comparing with D2, and maybe I'm even misremembering the aesthetic of D2.
tawny sand
i was thinking more like the way the lighting is in D2R, i really like the way that game looks
d4 feels like vanilla caves in skyrim, where it should be dark but there's a lot of ambient light baked in
gilded elm
But I was also just a teenager when I played D2, so my immersion factor could've also been way, way different regardless.
hexed stream
But I was also just a teenager when I played D2, so my immersion factor could've...
and worse tech back then too
both hardware and software
sand wigeon
i thought d4 looked fantastic. so
gilded elm
Yeah, playing through a CRT monitor and all that, probably fewer available colors in GPUs
gilded elm
All monitors were CRT back in the day.
sand wigeon
oh, wait, is a commodore a crt monitor?
yeah okay nvm then i'm just being silly, i know exactly what that is
gilded elm
Those big boxy monitors you might have seen
sand wigeon
i've used them
sand wigeon
i'd just never heard of them referred to that way
gilded elm
I've never heard them referred to any other way except as a "monitor" back when they were the only kind of monitor lol
sand wigeon
yeah, i've never heard the crt specifier, just "monitor"
tawny sand
i think crt monitors were before i had a home pc
i didn't get a home pc till i was like 14 or something
and it had an lcd screen
gilded elm
They were mostly phased out by like 2008-2010
gilded elm
Damn
tawny sand
makes sense, i graduated high school in 08
gilded elm
I graduated high school in 2005 lmao
tawny sand
possibly, i hated school
sand wigeon
aye, that's the impression i've heard from everyone
gilded elm
I don't think I really remember learning anything of significance at high school in hindsight, except maybe social skills. I certainly could have if I applied myself, but I was also diagnosed with ADHD in middle school and always had trouble applying myself to anything that didn't capture my complete interest.
sand wigeon
aye
gilded elm
So I would say there is definitely value in school, even if you hate it, but only really if you can actually manage to apply a willingness to learn, which I couldn't.
hexed stream
I don't think I really remember learning anything of significance at high school...
I did learn a lot of good sh!!t in high school, such as statistics and how to assess the reliability of collected data
sand wigeon
I mean, the experience is baseline important and valuable even if it's not necessarily enjoyable
tawny sand
the most useful class i took was typing classes tbh
sand wigeon
If I could choose to go to school and experience that, despite the negativity surrounding it, I would
tawny sand
that should've been mandatory instead of cursive writing lmao
gilded elm
I did learn a lot of good sh!!t in high school, such as statistics and how to as...
Wouldn't Statistics be an AP course or something in high school? lol
tawny sand
statistics wasn't ap in my school
hexed stream
Wouldn't Statistics be an AP course or something in high school? lol
what's AP? I learnt A level
gilded elm
statistics wasn't ap in my school
That's cool, I don't remember any Statistics course when I was in high school.
tawny sand
what's AP? I learnt A level
advanced placement i think, it's what the smart kids did
i had ap history
i was horrible at math though
gilded elm
Also came with college credit, potentially? I forget, it's been so long.
sand wigeon
Aye, AP are pre-college "college level" courses that reward college credit and teach more advanced versions of the subject
hexed stream
advanced placement i think, it's what the smart kids did
in both my country and the country I attended high school, statistics is compulsory for all
gilded elm
I would be very surprised if Stats was mandatory in US high schools today.
tawny sand
in both my country and the country I attended high school, statistics is compuls...
it was either calculus or statistics i think in my school, you could take either
hexed stream
I would be very surprised if Stats was mandatory in US high schools today.
well, they're demolishing ministry of edu next year
hexed stream
it was either calculus or statistics i think in my school, you could take either
where I learnt, calculus is indeed AP subject, where as statistics is the same for both normal and AP
the ministry did say statistics is probably the most practical thing you will learn out of high school program, so we make it compulsory
tawny sand
i wish i could take adhd meds, they helped me so much in college but they started to make me hallucinate
so i can't take them
gilded elm
I would agree, I feel like if I had learnt Statistics in high school, I would have been better off a lot sooner.
It definitely seems like one of the most practical things you can learn and apply in your every day life.
gilded elm
i wish i could take adhd meds, they helped me so much in college but they starte...
That sucks. I got re-diagnosed as an adult so I've been on meds for a couple years now. I don't think I could even function as a human being without them heh
sand wigeon
I was diagnosed ADHD extraordinarily young but I’m thinking about getting rediagnosed
I either think I don’t have it or the coping mechanisms I learned in therapy simply eradicate its effects in my life, I don’t know which
gilded elm
Having a childhood diagnosis is a strong factor in getting diagnoased again as an adult, it's definitely one of the main factors they take into consideration.
indigo shadow
Good Evening
it's been a while friends
any dudes here left or banned in LE discord server?
sand wigeon
I also went to therapy for many years as a child, so the things I learned are subconscious and I’m sure I don’t know when I’m doing them
Plus, I’ve just become a much less hyperactive person recently
indigo shadow
Same
gilded elm
Personally I lean toward the idea that people just learn to cope with it, as we see more and more cases of people not actually "growing out" of it.
indigo shadow
I've been to 5 psychiatrist and none of my parents knew about my autism, i had to seek out my own.
sand wigeon
Well, I can’t relate to people with ADHD at… all.
gilded elm
Well, the vast majority of Adult ADHD diagnoses are ADHD-I (Inattentive type)
Hyperactivity is only common in childhood ADHD
sand wigeon
Which is why I think I might have been misdiagnosed
indigo shadow
Well, I can’t relate to people with ADHD at… all.
Do you ever had that your friend had enough of you shuffling 10 games in an hour? 😂
indigo shadow
My Online friends hesitate to play co op with me because he knows that I'm going to jump at least 5 games in an hour
gilded elm
Getting misdiagnosed as a child because you were hyperactive is a thing for sure, yeah. In either case, not a bad idea to get confirmation one way or another.
indigo shadow
Time to time when I'm driving? I already schedule my gaming hours... through inspiration on the roads or random thoughts
sand wigeon
Like, I’ll ask my roommate to do a chore and an hour later they haven’t even started. I’ll remind them, and they’ll have completely forgot they needed to do it until reminded. Or I’ll ask them to do something, they ask for a few minutes, and then ask me what they were supposed to do
indigo shadow
if I suddenly think I'm playing Grim Dawn tonight while driving? I'm going to play Grim Dawn, or LE if you caught my attention through mention here
sand wigeon
Which I just don’t experience
indigo shadow
Oh.
Dude, that's bad.
I was going to open the main gate while raining outside and I forgot about it because I was doing something else.
sand wigeon
I can’t legally acquire a driver’s license so IDK what I’m like behind the wheel
indigo shadow
3 things that can grab my attention: gaming, food, and weed.
gilded elm
Executive dysfunction can take many forms as well. Being inattentive is sort of the characteristic trait of ADHD in adults, but poor planning, disorganization, any kind of executive dysfunction could be a symptom.
sand wigeon
3 things that can grab my attention: gaming, food, and weed.
That’s certainly a list
sand wigeon
Executive dysfunction can take many forms as well. Being inattentive is sort of ...
I don’t think I experience any of that
indigo shadow
At one time, I refuse to play video game if I'm not stoned.
Do you have any nervous breakdown?
sand wigeon
Nope
gilded elm
I don’t think I experience any of that
Look up Executive Dysfunction, if you don't experience issues with your executive functions, then probably don't have it.
sand wigeon
I know what it is DW
I’ve lived with people diagnosed with ADHD my entire life, I presumably had it and was educated very well about it
Any signs of executive dysfunction I have aren’t because my brain won’t, I usually know the cause
I also want to get an autism rediagnosis because I’m not 100% sure I have that either
gilded elm
Damn, they laid both of those on you lol
sand wigeon
I don’t have many of the more common symptoms of autism
gilded elm
But the two are pretty commonly diagnosed together.
Probably even mistaken amongst each other, from what I hear
sand wigeon
But again, I’ve been taught how to deal with these things my entire life so my subconscious mechanisms might be entirely taking the strain off me
Or one of my other diagnosed things that I 100% have could be countering some of the symptoms
sand wigeon
Damn, they laid both of those on you lol
About when I was five, aye
sand wigeon
But again, I’ve been taught how to deal with these things my entire life so my s...
Plus, the development of my own religious beliefs and meditating often have generally made me a calmer person
tawny sand
my current psych thinks i'm autistic but idk tbh, i don't think some of the symptoms apply to me
gilded elm
The unfortunate thing in my experience is that you may never actually know until you "try" such as getting a diagnosis and getting treatment, because in my experience different phychologists and psychiatrists can have wildly different interpretations of your mental health.
tawny sand
and it's not like it's any use to know now, i'm 30 something. i forget how old i am exactly lol
indigo shadow
I’ve lived with people diagnosed with ADHD my entire life, I presumably had it a...
I'm a mixture of everything bad; I was anorexic, schizophrenia, mild autism, and ADHD.
sand wigeon
Aye
indigo shadow
I was 49 KG at my lowest.
sand wigeon
The unfortunate thing in my experience is that you may never actually know until...
Aye, my neurologist thinks I should go in for a rediagnosis
gilded elm
There's a very high chance that two random psychs will have a different diagnosis of your mental health, it's actually insane lol
sand wigeon
Not because he doesn’t think I don’t have them—he believes I at the very least have autism—just because I want to
indigo shadow
It just doctor's opinion
I know what's going on in my head and I don't lie to myself anymore
sand wigeon
I was 49 KG at my lowest.
You doing better now?
indigo shadow
I never heard the term autism until was 16
100KG now.
That pill what drove me on survival
sand wigeon
That’s great! My roomie weighs only a little more than you did, I know how rough it is
indigo shadow
without those pills? I would either dead or nearly dying due for malnutrition
sand wigeon
I could lift her easily if it didn’t hurt her
indigo shadow
I was eating cup of porridge and 1 ice water
daily
or munchies on pancake which is 3 slice
sand wigeon
She eats food, she just doesn’t put on weight no matter what
indigo shadow
My eldets brother still doesn't put weight on him
well maybe he's a sport person but eating 2 chicken rice in one sitting and still skinny is bewildening
sand wigeon
Whereas I never lose weight no matter how little I eat (within reason)
It’s an odd dichotomy
indigo shadow
Nop, measure calories and exercise
with those smart watch you can watch how you exercise or how much work you put on
sand wigeon
Do not give me eating advice, I am more than aware
indigo shadow
the only thing that made me skinny was daily walk from the house to the train station for college
gilded elm
Metabolism is a tricky thing and different for everyone unfortunately. CICO isn't as simple as it sounds.
simple needle
who is ur avatar Hallow
indigo shadow
back then before my breakdown? before going for badminton match I would run 1.5km just for warm up
my pre nervous warmup was brutal and satisfying
sand wigeon
Yeah. I’ve been on a 700kc deficit for around three months and haven’t lost weight
simple needle
oh nvm u already put it there
sand wigeon
For reference, my daily kc need is around 2400
gilded elm
Yeah. I’ve been on a 700kc deficit for around three months and haven’t lost weig...
You might be similar to me in that regard, where fat just tends not to fall off easily even with large deficits. I've found that reducing carbs is very helpful for me.
sand wigeon
For reference, my daily kc need is around 2400
Between TEF and the exercise I do get
sand wigeon
You might be similar to me in that regard, where fat just tends not to fall off ...
Maybe! I like carbs a lot
gilded elm
Yeah that's the hard part lmao
sand wigeon
Plus, I have hyperphagia so restricting my diet only makes things worse
gilded elm
Maybe not necessarily restricting, just reportioning (proteins/fats/carbs)
sand wigeon
Aye. I was eating great for a month or two but fell into a rut recently, need to get back on it
gilded elm
It's really hard to keep to a new eating habit, for sure.
sand wigeon
Had a few compounding issues, like groceries not being accessible and not having the ability to cook
Need to start buying chicken again for rice bowls
gilded elm
And if cost is a factor, obviously carbs are gonna be a bigger portion because they are the most industrialized and mass produced and most widely available.
sand wigeon
Been eating a lotta salads recently, I forget how tasty they are
Nice spring mix, some croutons, some nuts, a little cheese and some caesar dressing
Very delicious
gilded elm
Needs some chicken or something though 🙂
gilded elm
Ah. Bacon bits for those lazy days? Not sure how you are with bacon lol
I only mention because they can be bought fairly cheap in more convenient packaging if I remember
And not a bad addition to a salad (though some might consider it blasphemy)
sand wigeon
I like bacon a lot, and it’s real easy to prepare, but I eat pork so infrequently that my stomach isn’t used to it
The only meat I eat often is chicken and fish
sand wigeon
And not a bad addition to a salad (though some might consider it blasphemy)
Adding tasty things, no matter how bad for you, doesn’t take away from the healthy nutrients in a salad
I’m a fan of stuff like that
Better to eat a salad with bacon if it’ll get you to eat a salad than no salad at all
desert jasper
Also the extra protein & stuff is nice
sand wigeon
Yeah, and the fat can be good too for energy
gilded elm
Yeah it's still a source of protein as well, which was my main reasoning haha
sand wigeon
Been eating peanut butter toast more often
I like toast a LOT and already eat it, so I figured I should make it at least be SOMEWHAT better for me
gilded elm
I love pure peanut butter (none of the industrialized crap), just 2 ingredients: peanuts, water
sand wigeon
Though, I’m sure my uncontrollable sleep schedule contributes to my metabolism being a genuine failure, especially because I have a sleep disorder that I’m sure affects it too
I noticed recently how much stronger I am UNDER all the fat, so it’s likely that while I’m not losing fat, I am gaining muscle
So there’s also genetics at play there
My father is likely a mixture of Scandinavian + Irish descent so we have that build
gilded elm
Right, and your genetics can in some ways determine an optimal eating habit as well.
sand wigeon
Aye
tawny sand
was never a fan of peanut butter personally
sand wigeon
My father is likely a mixture of Scandinavian + Irish descent so we have that bu...
queue thor
As long as I’m eating well enough to feel happy about it, I don’t really care if I’m losing weight TBH
gilded elm
If you aren't diagnosed with type-2 diabetes, I'm betting you're perfectly fine lol
sand wigeon
It’d be a nice bonus, as having the extra weight can make some things harder, but I’d rather feel satisfied than not eat at all
Yeah, no diagnoses of diabetes
gilded elm
Just get your annual checkups and blood work
Diabetes territory is when your weight starts to become a serious risk
sand wigeon
I get bloodwork often for other issues but I’ve no idea if they check for that
gilded elm
They do, yeah. It's part of your lipid panel
sand wigeon
Well, ICR if they do full bloodwork or not
I have to get my blood taken for hormone level checkups often
So they might just check that stuff
gilded elm
Ah, yeah not sure on the more frequent blood work. I figure you'd have at least an annual full blood work though
sand wigeon
I do not
Like, I could have type two diabetes, for example, because all the symptoms are just things caused by other stuff I have
gilded elm
Well, then you should definitely ask the next time you get blood work done! You definitely wanna get a lipid panel at least once a year.
sand wigeon
I’m thirsty and drink a lot of water when I’m awake because I often sleep for 12 or 14 hours straight
I’m hungry because I have hyperphagia
I have blurry vision because I need glasses
Quite amusing
sand wigeon
Well, then you should definitely ask the next time you get blood work done! You ...
I should, yeah. I think I need to go in soon because my testosterone was wayyy too low
So they need to check up on that again
fierce moth
👀 First time to get that. Trap monsters? Not sure how to use it
sand wigeon
Iirc last time they said I had next to zero testosterone in my system, which is… not good to say the least
I need a checkup anyway so I’ll bring it up to my general practitioner
gilded elm
Damn, I don't even know what that means in terms of effect
sand wigeon
Damn, I don't even know what that means in terms of effect
Well, that could be partly screwing up my metabolism
tawny sand
👀 First time to get that. Trap monsters? Not sure how to use it
i think this is the essence monsters, it just modifies the roll on it before you open it
sand wigeon
Less muscle gain, thinner hair, slower metabolism, stuff like that
gilded elm
Ah, yeah hormonal imbalance affecting metabolism sounds like a plausible thing, granted I'm no expert but definitely sounds plausible.
sand wigeon
Weaker skin, too, I think
I’m just going off what docs have mentioned in the past
Though I could also be misremembering, I’m no expert either
simple needle
Kendrick lamar dropped an album pog
sand wigeon
Aye, I’ve heard it’s good
tawny sand
it's pretty good yeah
simple needle
okay so im late
sand wigeon
I haven’t listened to it, not my style of music, but friends have rated it well
simple needle
Got distracted by the POE2 announcement
gilded elm
I think not counting the Black Panther stuff, the last Kendrick album I listened to was DAMN... maybe
simple needle
For me Damn was the weakest
gilded elm
Yeah, had some okay tracks like LOYALTY and DNA
tawny sand
i think my favorite is to pimp a butterfly
gilded elm
I confess... I was (maybe still am) also a fan of mumble rap as well, not saying Kendrick is a mumble rapper, but I just had all of it in the same playlist lol
tawny sand
my favorite rapper is mf doom i think still, sad he passed
gilded elm
Yeah RIP 😦
tawny sand
you know the one thing i hope they fix in poe2? the dang shader stutter
let us compile them before playing
gilded elm
I don't think shader stutter is a thing in PoE1 if you use Vulkan
tawny sand
hmm, i haven't tried vulkan
hexed stream
I don't think shader stutter is a thing in PoE1 if you use Vulkan
better than dx12?
gilded elm
It's the only way I can play Blight without FPS taking a shit lol
Better than DX12 for me at least. Both 11 and 12 had FPS issues in Blight and bigger density mob packs and shader stuttering, only thing that solved it for me was Vulkan.
Might be a thing specific to Nvidia though, maybe AMD's Vulkan drivers are different.
tawny sand
i don't remember tbh