📚┃off-topic

[sand wigeon]

this applies to most indie games

most small indie games choose to go for stylized art, which allows it to stay fresh at any point in time

as opposed to a realistic look that may degrade with time

[fierce moth]

Yeah this is the risk for using realistic art style in a game

[sand wigeon]

Looks at Call of Duty

Looks at Battlefield

STARES

[fierce moth]

I wish POE can apply UI design like the flame of the flood XD Very comfortable on readability

[sand wigeon]

yeeeah arpg ui is... rarely good

[tawny sand]

Should play Tales of Maj'Eyal speaking of rogelikes

Jupiter Hell and Caves of Qud are also very good

[sand wigeon]

imo those aren't very beginner friendly

[tawny sand]

i would say jupiter hell is

[sand wigeon]

i would not

[tawny sand]

i mean it's hard, but it's easy to understand i think

[sand wigeon]

it's also visually overwhelming due to it's graphics'

so if you haven't played a game like that before it's hard

[tawny sand]

it's just inventory screens

path of exile is harder

[sand wigeon]

shrug

idk, i just don't think it's a very good introduction the rogue-like genre

[tawny sand]

it was mine so idk

[sand wigeon]

and mine was Rogue

which is arguably the worst introduction

[tawny sand]

idk, i think if you're willing to learn something you might as well just go deep into the water so-to-speak

[sand wigeon]

i see

difference of opinion

[tawny sand]

the only one I didn't really like was Cogmind, but i don't think it's because there's anything exactly wrong with it

[sand wigeon]

haven't played that one, can't afford it

a friend recc'd it to me tho

i've been busy replaying all of skyrim anyway

[tawny sand]

nice nice, i was gonna play morrowind again but i ended up playing Distant Worlds 2 again instead lol

[sand wigeon]

poor morrowind

so dated

[tawny sand]

it's got its issues, but its got its strengths too

i love the guilds in that game

[sand wigeon]

oh i just mean visually

[tawny sand]

oh yeah

[sand wigeon]

it's just very old

i introduced a friend to how deep tes lore goes yesterday, it's insane

[tawny sand]

i was very big into tes lore

i haven't read much of it in a while tho

[sand wigeon]

indeed

[tawny sand]

i hope tes 6 is good

[sand wigeon]

i think it'll be a bethesda game, which i am very okay with, but i think a lot of people are expecting something else

[tawny sand]

yeah suppose so

i didn't like fallout 4 and i didn't get starfield

i'm hoping they bring back stuff like crafting magic and what not, but i doubt it

[sand wigeon]

i love the fallout series and i did honestly enjoy starfield. was it the best game ever? no, but it was something new, which bethesda hasn't done in a long time. plus, i'm just not big on sci-fi

there's like three sci-fi settings i have liked and one of them is a visual novel (heaven will be mine)

[tawny sand]

yeah i'm far more interested in the fantasy setting of tes than i am in fallout

but fallout has never really appealed to me, even if i think new vegas was really good

[sand wigeon]

new vegas is

okay

it suffers from "i am really old" syndrome because everything outside of the writing is awful

similar issue with f3

whereas everything but the writing is great in f4

[sand wigeon]

f3 has the best map design tho

[tawny sand]

i haven't played f3 in forever

[sand wigeon]

making the metro system a fully functional underground travel system with accurate in-world metro maps was cool

[tawny sand]

oh yah

i just feel like for that type of setting i rather play other post-apocalyptic games like Metro or Stalker idk

i actually need to play stalker again before 2 comees out

[sand wigeon]

yeah, i love metro and stalker

fallout has always had a more comedy focused setting tho

[tawny sand]

yeah

[sand wigeon]

i break it down to: stalker is a setting that's hopeless, where people just try and get by day to day in the exclusion zone. metro is a hopeful setting where things are improving overtime, just with the understanding the world will never once again be the same; the world can be something new instead of what it was. and fallout is absurdist

[fierce moth]

EHG must like it

[soft fulcrum]

😄

[desert jasper]

oh deer

[full coyote]

I would love to have a ring like this, the gradient of color makes it almost look like it's glowing.

[woven minnow]

Id argue you cant call those claws "rings"

[ocean rivet]

You do equip them as rings though

[woven minnow]

you could fight with those things

and easily win

this is the one I want 😄

[ocean rivet]

Honestly that's a bad idea, my knuckle movement is limited with those finger claw rings

[slender drift]

Sauron.

[ocean rivet]

I'd hurt myself

[slender drift]

One girl to rule them all.

[twilit mountain]

Holy based

[slender drift]

Red Ring !

[ocean rivet]

Opal?

[woven minnow]

yess

[desert jasper]

That's beautiful

[ocean rivet]

I wouldn't advise wearing Ethiopian welo opals as jewelry, if that's one of those

[woven minnow]

honestly no idea

I think its pretty

and would be a nice contrast

[twilit mountain]

I can't wear any (metal) rings very long, my skin is suuuuper sensitive and gets irritated by them

[woven minnow]

(ring & hand leak incoming. look fast im shy and will delet it xD)

im rocking plain black with a little blue

can barely see the blue

[ocean rivet]

Ethiopian welo opals are very easily influenced by its surroundings, it can end up absorbing your sweat and lose its colors, or even break/shatter if they aren't hydrated (yes they need water every now and then to sustain their colors and barrier)

They're an expensive joke for jewelry

[slender drift]

Remember to stay your ring hydrated

[woven minnow]

good to know ty! If I ever decide to buy one ill make sure to check

[ocean rivet]

I once heard a story about a man who bought a whole beaded necklace made out of ethiopian opals, spent thousands on it, then in a few months they were ruined by his sweat

[slender drift]

i honestly dont know how people can wear jewelry. i tried a ring once and i get crazy, i cant unfeel it or ignore it.

[woven minnow]

you get used to it

[ocean rivet]

Nickel allergy?

[woven minnow]

my ring is quite heavy and I barely notice it

[slender drift]

i dont. i tried for a few weeks and i was always feeling it on my skin.
Maybe i'am over sensitive.
i hate wind cause i feel it everywhere on my head hair, arm hair etc.

[twilit mountain]

Dunno tbh. My skin just gets irritated and raw from a lot of things. Some soaps and detergents, wet wipes, metals, even a couple shirts have made me itch up a storm in my life.

[ocean rivet]

Oh damn that sucks

[slender drift]

The feeling when a shirt make your body itch... 🫂

[twilit mountain]

For me I can't ignore or unfeel, but things like bracelets are grounding for me. I have this one leather cuff I use that just makes me comfortable especially when I get anxious.

[twilit mountain]

Stomping up the stairs and ripping a new shirt out of my basket twice a day because my body is angry at the current one 🫠

[ocean rivet]

And it's not wool?

[twilit mountain]

Nope. I only have two wool shirts and I use them during winter exclusively

Only after snow starts to fall

[slender drift]

I dont know if it's a disease but when i feel very hot, i get all itchy over ALL my body and i have some white pimple (full of water) on my arm, chest, stomach, legs, back.
Almost everywhere.
The only "cure" i have for that i to go to shower and rub my skin with white vinegar.

My eyes are hypersensible to light, so i cant go outside in summer.
My skin burn extremly fast with sunlight.
My eyes feel air more than the normal, a little little wind hurt my eyes.
As i mentionnend, i am hypersensible with my hair, especially arm hair.

My body just suck 🤣 At least i'am a man, if i was a girl it's 100% chance i would have endometriose.

[vagrant topaz]

I feel naked and alone without my wedding ring

[ocean rivet]

First part sounds like heat rashes

And that is a skin condition

[twilit mountain]

I have an astigmatism and some problem the optometrist could never figure out with my eyes getting extremely strained in sunlight so I feel ya.
Wind just makes me very, very cold and hurts my ears (hypersensitive to noise yaaaaaaaay).

My biggest issue physically is scoliosis, damn spine trying to kill me I swear

[slender drift]

Yes the image looks like mine.
I'll ask my doctor next time i see him

[slender drift]

I'am not complaining because i know some people have real life altering problem.
I dont like going outside so most of my problem are solved.
At least i have no real health condition except huge sleep apnea that is extremly annoying

[desert jasper]

Sleeping is hard indeed

[slender drift]

132 "asphyxia" per hour.
More than 2 time per minute i completly stop to breath.
without the breathing machine i would just not be able to sleep

[twilit mountain]

Circadian rhythm disorder enjoyer here. What the hell is a sleep cycle?

[twilit mountain]

Oh damn that's like my dad, he's got the same issue pretty close in number to yours too

[slender drift]

Being fat is really the worst thing in life.. (in term of health)

[twilit mountain]

I'll trade ya some of my scrawny. I can't gain weight (been stuck in the range of 105-115 lbs for like a decade), it kinda sucks.

[desert jasper]

I had big problems with constantly losing weight no matter how much I ate
and then got the diabetes diagnosis
Since then I've actually gained weight. Turns out that having high bloodsugar makes it hard to keep weight

[slender drift]

went from 120kg to 180k in 1 year due to my sleep apnea, before it was diagnosized (hard word for non english).
And being extremly fat should be unincentivized as much as possible.

[ocean rivet]

We went from jewelry to a doctor's office

[slender drift]

Everything is fine until they start again to talk about how to cook grole.. 😭

[desert jasper]

And here's how to cook grole stew

[twilit mountain]

But I want grole jerky

[slender drift]

i've got your cat.
Stop it now.

[desert jasper]

So you went and dug him up from the grave

[slender drift]

You cant do me like that.
Tell me you are joking

Earlier i watched a youtube video about a famous dog on youtube, a Malamute named "Phil".
I cried for him for a 8 min video. i never saw him before.

[desert jasper]

I wish I was
He died in 2022, right after halloween

Old age

Still went to work that day

That's him sleeping on my couch

[slender drift]

I was more sad when my dog that i grew up with died, than for my father death.
Animals are pure love, they just love you, you are their world.
everyone should have an animal at least once, to understand how precious they are.

[twilit mountain]

I lost this lovely fluffball early last month. I have two kittens now that have been helping me cope.

[desert jasper]

I'm so sorry to hear that
at least the kittens are nice

[slender drift]

It's always like that
"I will never be able to have a new cat"
Then a few days after you get a new one, or two.

Once, when our black cat died, the next morning we found EXACTLY the same looking cat on the middle of the road in front of our house.
I dont trust in religion or surnatural, but it's just impossible that happen without a reason.
Of course we took him and he lived for 17 years, very old but healthy.

[desert jasper]

I'm gonna be taking care of my brother's cat for 2 weeks or so next month
Really social bugger

[twilit mountain]

My stance is that I don't think I'll ever feel for a cat the way I did for her, she was my support during the worst parts of my life and I was her safety after rescuing her from outside so we had a really strong bond.

Similarly to you, one of the kittens has a shockingly close personality to her. I'm not religious or spiritual or anything like that either, but it is a little weird I admit.

[slender drift]

Name is Garfield, of course.
It was 4 years ago but he is still with my parents ❤️

[fierce moth]

Ok made some progress

[slender drift]

What is that ?

[fierce moth]

Super flurry aaaaaaaaa I want to pet

[fierce moth]

The last work for the [Fan art] Environment art hunting --- Where's it series post on reddit.
Previous works for this series:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1fpdhxw/fan_artenvironment_art_hunting_36_extra_angles/

[slender drift]

What software do you use ?
It looks SO good

[fierce moth]

You can check out all works by clicking the pink art tag

Magicavoxel

[desert jasper]

He was super fluffy

[fierce moth]

I like flurry cats the best!!!!

[slender drift]

AHhhh we have to find where it is in Last Epoch map ?

[fierce moth]

lmaoooo You can leave your answers on these posts. Just make a topic to let people dicuess

I don't think which name this fan art series suppose to call yet

I don't post anything on #🎨┃fanart because I'm not done yet

[sand wigeon]

But I am.

https://tenor.com/view/anime-eyeglasses-glow-stare-look-gif-17811219

damn embed

i love how that’s just “anime eyeglasses” really did shiroe dirty

[simple needle]

i need more art

[blissful token]

Wow not sure what to feel as a GS main

[ocean rivet]

That's a cute cat

[blissful token]

Looks like a Tibetan Mastiff

[keen wind]

o.o

[ember lake]

My dude, let's not please. Thank you.

[thorn nacelle]

Greek Mountain Tea (Mount Olympus)

[ember lake]

Ooh, I do need an excuse to break out the teapot again

[thorn nacelle]

@ocean rivet 😅

[ocean rivet]

Lmao

Just slap a famous label on a piece of cloth and you can charge it 500 euros extra just for the label

[thorn nacelle]

my grandmother was years ahead!!

[ebon meadow]

Never seen a tea with buds

[thorn nacelle]

Nature provides everything. Honey/Lemon Tea with Buds gg.

[ebon meadow]

Was memeing lol the yellow flower with white petals never can remember English name for them look like buds to

Looking at that pic was funny looks like something I would put in to a grinder xdd

[thorn nacelle]

this grow only above 1500-2000s metters from the Sea.

Mountain tea always bis

[ebon meadow]

What's the taste like green tea or is it minty ?

[thorn nacelle]

yes looks like something u could smoke...

there is a word in Greece

[ebon meadow]

I m a fan of cylon

[thorn nacelle]

hungry man dreaming about bread at night

😄

you should try Kalamata or Kreta if you looking for further quality my friend.

[ebon meadow]

I v tried kalamata before it's nice

[thorn nacelle]

Kreta is ghetto tbh not even police goes there 🙂

[ebon meadow]

What I m still in search for last decade is rose Egyptian tea I can find it anywhere since my child hood

Pretty sure the logo on it was a Nefertiti portrait

[thorn nacelle]

You can find anythink on the internet for sure.. except is made by farmers unknown for the public.

[fierce moth]

Understands a lot "why" on details of design for a map during the progress of revealing them truly.
Executed is the best teacher.

[thorn nacelle]

tastes wild cant explain specific its been decades last time had the change to drink original mountain tea..

has flavours from thymian-Rosmarin

i am Chef and noticed the Grandmother with Wild Garten in her bags 10 metters away from me lol
Cooking with this high quality herbs nothing can go wrong actually. Nature is the Chef we just prepare thinks

[sand wigeon]

That’s super common

This isn’t even high quality tea, unlike what was shown above

[ebon meadow]

that exactly the ones i was talking about xd , i know this flower ones its actually belongs to my mom

[thorn nacelle]

we have those one too but its way less strong vs the mountain one

[ebon meadow]

camomile thats it , actually had to google the english name

[thorn nacelle]

xamomilh yes greek word

😄

sometimes i wonder why i had to learn english?

also listen people complain about my english on top. kekW

[ebon meadow]

i think in 3 languages when speak fast its sometimes anoying and u get brain lag translating some words back to back

[thorn nacelle]

Same.. well Greek rekts english and german if thinkin greek and write German etc

if thinking English and write german is also wrong

[ebon meadow]

writing is my worst enemy i dont have a any grammar

[thorn nacelle]

Grammar aka Gramatikh xD

Thats not original Greek but Greeklish.

i forget to write on my own languange imagine..

talking Greek and sound like German etc 😂

[sand wigeon]

Didn’t you say you used google translate for english? Icr

[ebon meadow]

for some words defently

[sand wigeon]

Wait no I think that was Zanzil

[ebon meadow]

that flower i never heard the name in english same as for dandelion

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, dandelions are great

[thorn nacelle]

Google translator is okay but not perfect.

[sand wigeon]

It annoys me how generally hated they are in the states

[thorn nacelle]

its totally different Languanges

[sand wigeon]

They’re a fully edible plant and have tons of good parts. Plus they’re pretty.

[ebon meadow]

they just words that u dont use speaking a lot so i never heard them or bother to remember brefore

google translater sucks a lot

[sand wigeon]

I’m an english writer, so language is kinda the only thing I got going for me

[thorn nacelle]

for example its easy to think Greek and write English all around the other person will understand what u mean

cause English has many latin words

[ebon meadow]

at least u can like pick translation that u know are correct but if u have to translate from an unkown language then gl lol

[thorn nacelle]

think Greek and write German gg nobody will understand what u say

[sand wigeon]

I remember when my school decided I needed to learn latin fluently, that was a trip

[thorn nacelle]

cause Germans using verbs at the end always

[ebon meadow]

for me i can undertand a lot of words in German due english

[thorn nacelle]

yes German have many latin words too but is different on settences set up

[ebon meadow]

Spanish is my main language so it helps a lot with any lnguage that has latin as base

[thorn nacelle]

same as Greek 🙂

[ebon meadow]

russian helps with polish ,bulgarian moldavian etc

[thorn nacelle]

Russian helps with aspirin

stay between 2 females having stress and talking russian

the sound of this languange is brutal

same goes for Scandinavian languanges

reason popular heavy metal bands created there.

[ebon meadow]

it does , when people hear me speak they think i m angry with person i m speaking to and i just asked how they are and stuff xd

they like why are u having a discution and i just asked how were they doing

[thorn nacelle]

yes music is different.. spanish,italian,greek is more friendly on your ears

France no comments is solo career

😄

[ebon meadow]

russian music will remind u mostly of like milatary marches and chores

[thorn nacelle]

German is rock gerne too

xD

[ebon meadow]

Arabic music is always been a litlle bit weird to me like the old ones

[thorn nacelle]

Arabic well everythink different again.. sounds intersting but also hard

[ebon meadow]

its nioe but u cant catalog it as anything , in spain we have a holiday that is called mores and christians and the music is so nice and diferent

[sand wigeon]

I don’t think any particular languages really incite specific genres

[ebon meadow]

nah the music we mention literally have no genre

its old orchestras and chores

its from medivals and before

[thorn nacelle]

dunno its languange has own music. was 22 years old first when arrived to Oslo and start listening people talking Norwegian.
Scandinavian language find it really interesting language to learn but also extreme difficult.

then later on travel to Netherlands-Germany etc both very similar.. the same applies to Austria or Switzerland

accent is different and couple words too but music wise are not that far

Austrian sound less agressive vs German

[fierce moth]

Damn this is dreamy ring

[ebon meadow]

ok i m actually curiuos to listen to Aussie old songs never bothered to learn about they history

[ebon meadow]

that is a ring kek

if u get in to game and u keep playing u will learn some uniques that can make builds around them , or even twink gear

we do get a lot of changes so it gets hard when u learn that 4 link rare chest is better than tabula in every way today

[thorn nacelle]

back to Topic Kirra

[ebon meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49FWp7WLYKw and u guys made me want to listen to this now for no reason

[thorn nacelle]

Unistalled Spotify

dunno what happend but every hip-hop artist songs are gonne oldschool mostly

rare and popular

Spotify was lacking music anyway so no big deal 😄

pay monthly 5-10 euro for adds but quality unknown. monkeys 😂

[ebon meadow]

theres very few things good about spoty but i m not a fan neither

[fierce moth]

Which topic? Go to bed, night 💤

[thorn nacelle]

scam.. youtube,soundcloud or sites where artist releases their songs direkt..

Mixcloud was a nice site too for mixes mostly but this adds virus appeared wild there too.

i understand they have to make money somehow

[ebon meadow]

yea the add thing gets very annoying thats my biggest issue and paying dont have to be only option (yea yea free service no b)

at least with YT and twitch i spend so much time there i stop getting adds on pc xd or get like 15 sec every maybe hour

spoti really made me angry with add every 3 mint song

[thorn nacelle]

lets fcking go! xD

[sand wigeon]

Is that a boombox

[ebon meadow]

it is indeed

[sand wigeon]

I’d never seen one before

[thorn nacelle]

cassette recording when i was 6-7 years old was the best fun

early 2000s appeared the CDs etc

then later on Mp3 and the Laptop djs

[sand wigeon]

I’m much too young for cassettes, and barely CD’s

[thorn nacelle]

wow 🙂 i see

[twilit mountain]

That ring without being corrupted is over a mirror in value, it's the hardest item in the game to get (if you're not one of the people who just have a build to farm them).

[keen wind]

It's wack, I remember playing random tiny games off floppy disks, nowadays I don't even have a CD-ROM

[gilded elm]

Small lesson in how to do damage in PoE: damage conversion. That "Elemental Damage Converted to Chaos Damage" is called conversion and in PoE the bonuses for the damage type you're converting from and to apply to that final damage. This means you can pick up Elemental Damage nodes and Chaos Damage nodes, significantly increasing your access to additive damage mods.

For multiplicative damage mods (anything that says more damage instead of increase), I think those only apply to the converted damage type.

I've heard this conversion behavior is changing or has changed in PoE2, though

[mental talon]

In PoE 2 conversion is simplified, the only thing that matters is the end conversion now for damage (i.e. no double/triple dips)

[gilded elm]

That's good. I know some people might not like that because double dipping feels good, but it just makes things unnecessarily confusing. Hopefully they properly offset the damage scaling to account for the new conversion behavior.

[dusk pond]

Who would win, xenomorphs from Alien franchise, or the aliens from the Independence Day film series?

[hexed stream]

they learn that from GD it seems

no double dipping

[simple needle]

Good day

[fierce moth]

that's so cool!

[thorn nacelle]

Last think i found out about D2 vs D4 its Thorns

Thorns in D2 works perfect against mobs and Uber bosses

Thorns in D4 works good against mobs but against Pit bosses does 0 dmg.

Last time played was s4 as Barb Thorns build.

[maiden widget]

i dont remember any diablo2 thorns build doing well against uber trist

[thorn nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0C1h8qiWJA&t=330s this is cause of the new runewords appeared into the game.

point here is that Thorns in diablo 4 against bosses is 0

[maiden widget]

did thorns barb in s4 or so and it needed to proc but did pretty solid damage back then

you stood around doing nothing and hoping for the proc tho

[thorn nacelle]

yes i played Thorns barb too

and i remember spaming basic atk on the boss inside Pit for over 5-7 minutes and my dmg output wasnt from Thorns but from Jump atk

cause for example did Nightmare dungeons right

[maiden widget]

https://youtu.be/Hkj16WB-Exg?t=371 worked but played pretty badly

[thorn nacelle]

so by casting Chains into mobs stack them together wiht high thorns they die instant

yes that i am trying to say that Thorns dmg in diablo 4 was very bad consider that u stack only thorns in your build

actually i had a change to do pvp 1 day with one random pvp content maker

[maiden widget]

thorns is the unwanted lovechild in most diablos tbh

[thorn nacelle]

where he was Thorns dual wield mode stuns etc

that was season 3 right

[maiden widget]

d3 crusader was a bit of an outlier with the meteor barrels

[thorn nacelle]

then season 4 become the pushing meta for pits

[maiden widget]

i should check if theres actually a working thorns spiritborn, should probably work well with how unbalanced the class is

[thorn nacelle]

i heard that they nerfing it already or its already nerfed

dunno if Spiritborn needs Thorns cause saw some rocky number crits

[maiden widget]

i think they only nerfed the evade spammy build, had to redo mine into something else yday

but he has some thorns support so might be ok

[thorn nacelle]

was doing the half of those numbers season 3 as HOTA barb and people where crying that Barbs need nerf.

Same was for Necro season 4 big numbers etc

also heard that exploits-dupes are still on the Menu 😛

[maiden widget]

yeah there were some not so cool bugs but i dont trade so not really an issue for me

[thorn nacelle]

yes i am playing d2 still offline fixing my last char Paladin-Dream Zeal build

was thinking to start from 0 again d2 mod version but they changed the Vanilla game a lot

[maiden widget]

pd2 has a new season soon ill probs join that one again - had lots of fun with a cold arrow amazon the last time

[thorn nacelle]

i heard that any class in d2 mod version is equal strong

skill tree is totally different

Mobs density,basic atks, many life changes compare to normal d2

didnt know that Online-Multiplayer existed too. this mod i am talking is mostly offline

Bonesys mod

[maiden widget]

ah interesting, is it for d2r or old d2

[thorn nacelle]

https://www.d2rmodding.com/ d2r

Remodded version

[maiden widget]

ah i think i played that a year ago felt pretty nice

ultimately ended up with pd2 to play with a friend tho and i enjoy their mapping endgame system

[thorn nacelle]

my only issue was this mod that p7 isnt the same how was in Vanilla

for example i am solo grind player and try to make my builds strong so can farm p7

in mod version p7 just gives more exp no extra loot. But overall is nice Mod too many changes.

https://projectdiablo2.com/ ah first time see this too

[maiden widget]

yep thats the one, also they try to balance classes and mechanics more so its not just sorc and barb while it feels still like normal d2

[thorn nacelle]

tbh this one looks way better

cause they respect Vanilla and just add thinks into the game

yes nice will try it too 🙂

thats a big life change,loot filters maybe? still Alt button even playing LE is always active xD

[maiden widget]

yep they have loot filters, everything stacks up, graphics filter by default

lots of good quality of life changes

[thorn nacelle]

But i have to install the mod into my D2 folder right

[maiden widget]

yep it has an installer too, you normally dont have to do anything by yourself

[thorn nacelle]

also wondering if can play offline too right

[maiden widget]

you can, theres also people adding plugy to it

https://github.com/BetweenWalls/PD2-PlugY

[thorn nacelle]

imagine if blizzard release game like this even better graphics listen the community for 1 time

nah lets make diablo 4 whatever 😄

fixes Ubers ok

Unlimited Skill-Stat reset can do also in Vanilla offline

by adding specific command

anyway thank you mate 🙂

[maiden widget]

welcome, i really hope they can hack up d2r so we can play all the old mods in the new graphics 😄

pd2, median etc would be amazing with the new effects

[thorn nacelle]

going to check video gameplay soon about pd2

problem is that i am grinding for over 4 years offline d2 and cant start from 0 again so easy.. (specially offline)

for me optimal would be if could add those mods into Vanilla but keep my Chars too

or if Blizzard someday wake up and add those thinks into their game. (that will never happend)

same problem was with Wow vanilla. they do whatever they like.. we asked for life changes into Vanilla wow.. they bring us Season of Discovery.

[thorn nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLHuojwM5a4

15 people made diablo 1 says the Video. imagine not 6000-7000 people that worked for d4.

@maiden widgetsaw video about pd2 graphics are from old Diablo 2 but who cares about graphics anyway 😄

will give it a try for sure 🙂

[maiden widget]

nice, i enjoy the widescreen a lot plus the filters are pretty good at making it look a lot better 😄

[hexed stream]

I do, don't need to be top notched but the old d2 graphics is straight rejection

either they upgrade it to d2r graphics or nah

[thorn nacelle]

there are so many mods outthere tbh

u can choose with graphics with out. with endgame extra content with out etc

[hexed stream]

as for d2r, reimagined d2r is the best mod currently, dbrunski is in love with it

[thorn nacelle]

yes it is just i dont like the p7 nerf

also as i said already full gear on my d2r offline account so still thinking

cause in d2r account that i have almost any high runeword and can try many different builds. guess once i get bored will try the Remodded version.

[hexed stream]

the reimagined mod add like idk quite a lot of new runewords and new unique items too, many things to hunt for

[thorn nacelle]

yes its good think to give it a try

just exploring the Dream Zealadin powers atm in d2r xD

Requires so much gear lol

like 3 Jah and 1 LO.. and 1 Ber if wanna run it with Fanatism on merc

[hexed stream]

ah, jah, let me show you the rich
HR everywhere

[thorn nacelle]

lol diablo 4 and runes 😄

heard is the main gold income ingame atm

you know 20 years people played D2 and never saw 1 Zod dropping

others never saw Ber or Jah

the mod version of d2 ofc are bit better than that. i did grind from 0 offline d2r at release cause know Online will be bad(Bots industry)

no glitches or anythink abused.

[junior oyster]

I've seen plenty of jah and zods being dropped in d2

Modded the hell out of it to the point those runes were common drops 😂

[thorn nacelle]

ehm the fun is to play the vanilla how it was made. brutal

for hardcore players. 6 months and he was lvl93 imagine

today gamers wanna log play 2 hours log off. gg

[desert jasper]

Not everyone has that much time to play
Like you might have a job & family
so you need to sleep. go to work + commute
get some groceries, do cleaning, cook and also can't forget sleep
So for a lot of people 2hours is all they kinda have

[thorn nacelle]

i dont have time either thats why i play offline for 4-5 years

[desert jasper]

And not counting social life & trying to be somewhat active physically

[thorn nacelle]

the point is that people want thinks to be done fast.
Rpg or Arpg games from their nature require time from your life.

[true goblet]

hnngh, that moment when you've been on your feet for a whole shift, come home, sit down and take your shoes off. . .

[desert jasper]

Ahh
that's such a good feeling
I usually also give a bit of massage for the legs at that point

[thorn nacelle]

after 13 hours either i take out the shoes or not doesnt matter

😅

[junior oyster]

Nope, after playing D3 for over 2k hours (mostly on wiz) I have to admit D2 is pretty damn boring.

Which makes me glad D4 went more the D3 route than D2/poe.

[vagrant topaz]

Its going there (according to what I have been hearing for youtubers/Content Creators)

[junior oyster]

Going where?

D3 route?

[vagrant topaz]

Yup

[junior oyster]

Can't wait for sets to be introduced in the next expansion

I'm assuming they'll add sets

It feels weird to play a diablo game (with exception to d1 - never played it) and not have sets

[desert jasper]

Sets
Where you can also add legendary affix

Also
Get to see the nephew tomorrow
He's just a bit over 1year old
Only seen him once
Looking forward to it

[twilit mountain]

IIRC they said they do plan to add sets at some point

[junior oyster]

If true then damn

Please give me a frost based hydra build thanks

[desert jasper]

I wasn't being serious

[junior oyster]

Either way I'd love to have an affix(exs) that changes the hydra element

I remember the manald heal ring in d3 with lightning hydras lol

[narrow token]

I'm chomping at the bit for a fire/lightning or holy monk in d4, or the ability to have elemental melee attacks (Like LE Spellblade) for Sorc.

THEME. It's a huge thing for me.

[junior oyster]

No such thing as holy in d4

They literally killed off the 'father'

[narrow token]

I don't mean it literally.

[junior oyster]

And ||made azkaban evil||

[narrow token]

Again, theme.

[junior oyster]

people want pala/monk but he ain't coming till like 3rd or 4th dlc

[thorn nacelle]

Well yes depends 3000 hours or more have in D2 100 in d3 and 400 in d4. Is all about the nostalgia mostly

[junior oyster]

And monk skills have already been taken by sb

[narrow token]

That's why I'm not playing D4 anymore.

[thorn nacelle]

Nostalgia is immortal u know

[junior oyster]

I too have nostalgia but I like to increase my drop rates and all.

[thorn nacelle]

Reason wow classic had like 10million playerbase once got released or more dunno

[junior oyster]

D2 playing as necro always feels super nice

[thorn nacelle]

Yes drop rates suck in d2

For Jah Ber or high runes

But they made game bit easyer compare to the past

Terror zones etc

I feel they made it like this so people grind longer and once that Jah drops dopamine levels go sky rockets

But is not the think so long u play Ladder bots farming prices are low

If you play offline can legit play normal with mods or with out and also abuse glythes if u wanna speed up the progress

[thorn nacelle]

Yes preparing my last build then dunno what to play

Is basic atk necro with thorns clears ubers in less than 5 mins

Summoning necro ofc

[fierce moth]

Ok double sides here now:
D2 players and POE players

[narrow token]

Not I

[gilded elm]

It's a good thing they didn't make Runewords in D4 stupid like they were in D2. The fact that a handful of runewords were effectively mandatory killed a lot of the fun of itemization.

[fierce moth]

yeah we're LE players

[gilded elm]

They definitely want to avoid adding mandatory sets like D3 as well, that kills itemization for the same reason that Runewords killed itemization in D2.

Honestly sets, if they get added, should probably only exist in up to 2-pieces and no more.

[junior oyster]

Nothing wrong with even 6 piece sets, just don't have some stupid scaling that makes certain builds super op

[gilded elm]

The problem with full sets is that nobody will use them if they aren't BiS, and it's tough to sell the idea that sets can be useful for leveling. That's kind of where sets in LE are at the moment (and even D2), nobody really uses them. The more competitive you make sets, the further away you stray from build diversity.

Well, not necessarily build diversity, but the value of itemization in a build is diminished as it was in D3. It shifts a lot of the build away from the itemization, because if the set is too good then you don't really have a "choice" in gear.

[junior oyster]

Both sets and 'MI's are perfectly viable in Grim Dawn. I think you also need to consider this fact

[gilded elm]

I feel like GD's component system lends itself better to that. It's like having the ability to "slam" a couple affixes onto every single one of your pieces of gear, regardless of its quality/rarity.

[junior oyster]

Yea but the sets in GD aren't overpowered nor underpowered compared to MIs

With except to certain sets I guess

Only the blue sets are kinda weak atm

[cyan karma]

Folks - I've recently tried out the Throne and Liberty MMO and left wondering.

Is there some MMO similar to Last Epoch (or ARPG's in general) where being creative with builds + heavily loot based (where finding something rare actually matters)? The whole social aspect of PVE raids/dungeons is kinda nice to showcase builds.

I love ARPG's and their loot/build systems, but I kinda miss sharing my characters in a more active way than I don't know - posting builds around 😅 not really the social interaction I'm interested in.

[gilded elm]

Off the bat, Lost Ark is an MMO ARPG with strong emphasis on social systems / party raiding in groups of 4-8 and gear/builds matters a lot. But the builds are not as varied as you would find in a game like LE.

But the combat feels amazing in Lost Ark.

I suspect that if you liked Throne and Liberty, you'd probably like Lost Ark even though they are games played in different perspectives. T&L undoubtedly looks at Lost Ark as competition especially in the Korean market.

[thorn nacelle]

what a comment

Diablo 4 are not runewords

dont mix Mango with Avocado

same believe have those who play the game over 24 years

[gilded elm]

Call them what you want, they aren't that different from PoE skill+support trigger gems even, but they're better than D2's Runewords and that's what matters.

[thorn nacelle]

Diablo 4 yes is a mix from everythink Runewords was game changer not cosmetics

[cyan karma]

uhhh thanks!

[thorn nacelle]

yes what u believe matters but its 200% wrong. i agree with you ofc 🙂

Based on Runewords are made builds. what is made based on runewords in diablo 4?

Poe did not exist when runewords appeared to rpg market sadly.

[gilded elm]

D4's runewords are functionally closer to PoE's trigger support gems than D2's runewords. That's a good thing, because runewords in D2 was a bad system.

[thorn nacelle]

or was the same period that got released all around could be

[junior oyster]

Runes in this game can be safely removed which is kinda nice

[gilded elm]

One of the very many reasons I don't play D2 any more is because I don't want to use the same few mandatory runewords in every build.

[thorn nacelle]

hmm mandatory yes aka Enigma

yes nobody is forcing anybody to play or say whatever story he/she likes.

[gilded elm]

Yes, what is the point of itemization if you're compelled to use an Enigma any way lol

[thorn nacelle]

the point is that u have way more options than Enigma

Enigma is the high end runeword which isnt required 99% to play the game

Infinity also thats why they bring Terror zones

[gilded elm]

Except you don't. You have options, they are just not good options. Not just in regards to Enigma, but there's a few runewords basically in the S+ tier status that are too powerful to ignore. You can easily tell people to have fun playing how they want to play, but people always gravitate towards whatever is the strongest.

[thorn nacelle]

my first item was Infinity then Enigma tbh

[gilded elm]

A good chunk of your D2 playthrough is just farming runes for those "mandatory" runeword items lol

[thorn nacelle]

so was the game made and all those who took thinks from it and create other games.

[gilded elm]

So you're not farming gear, you're farming runes with predefined itemization. Thus, you diminish the value of itemization.

[thorn nacelle]

if game isnt for you thats it

you farming gear and runes and item bases too

depends how u farming too

p1 p3 p5 p7 etc

what speed times and which areas

[gilded elm]

Deterministic = good. Predetermined = bad. I think that about sums it up for my opinion on ARPG itemization.

[thorn nacelle]

its bad thats why people gaming still today 25 years like after

call me 25 years later about d4

if it even exists

[gilded elm]

No, that's why nobody plays D2 anymore. It's a dated game with dated concepts.

[thorn nacelle]

yes ofc

what she said

thats why there are so many mods

nobody plays it

everybody plays d4 now mate

[gilded elm]

I loved D2 when it first came out and it was a great game for its time. But it's not a good game by my standards today.

[thorn nacelle]

stories i enjoy

[gilded elm]

I'm mostly playing PoE these days, but yes D4 is the most concurrently played and most successful ARPG on the market right now.

[thorn nacelle]

i agree u can play poe d4 whatever better graphics more games into 1 why not

i will stay with pasta till new game releases. d2

D2 and bit Le depends the mood.

cause LE has poe-d2 already in so

[gilded elm]

Nothing wrong with playing what you like, but there's a reason D2 is not a popularly played game and it's not just because the graphics are old. D2R was a great remake and the graphics are awesome, but obviously it's still not a popular game and that just comes down to the game design itself.

[thorn nacelle]

actually will give a try to remodded d2 before that

or the pd2 less graphics more respect about vanilla etc

will see:)

mate i know why d2 is not popular bla bla. Steamers streaming what audience want to hear

they want followers

we are in a decade where what sells the most means its the best.

i am not in that list

[ebon meadow]

Mr Lama would disagree lmao ,let d2r have mods and a lot more people would play it

[thorn nacelle]

there are still view content makers still streaming

[ebon meadow]

U have path of diablo then the other trips color one I can't remember name of now witch has a big public

[gilded elm]

I agree, and this doesn't contradict what I'm saying. The game design of D2 is the problem why D2R still fails to attract an audience. Modding would give people the power to change the game design.

Also Mr Llama, as much as I like him, is very obviously an outlier lol

[junior oyster]

Less known but there is also grim dawn RoT

[thorn nacelle]

this guy too

[ebon meadow]

I m still very confused how he can playing the game lol

[gilded elm]

He knows what he loves, I respect it.

[thorn nacelle]

he has his own fun base mate

[junior oyster]

Also he has his target audience

[thorn nacelle]

he helped many people return into d2

specially when d2r got released

then Blizzard failed again so badly with online services

people where quiting etc

reason started direkt offline at release.

is not about d4 is about the company

is just red card

[ebon meadow]

A lot of people quit because we saw a . On not having any mods support witch is like why ? Just let people mod and do things they like

U reworked an old game same content that people being playing since 1998 lmao of course it wouldn't last

[gilded elm]

Grim Dawn, I feel, actually struggles with the opposite problem of D2R. GD is a great game with a great modding platform for people to create content, but it lacks that feeling of a modern game. Intentional or not, perhaps through consequence of being built on the Titan Quest Engine, GD plays very slowly (not lag, just slow) and also has very outdated graphics that are beyond the help of HD upscaling.

[ebon meadow]

Gd is a good game to play couple of times but then it feels like meh Vs things on market ,mods is what keeps that game running

[junior oyster]

I disagree here (except the playing slowly bit).

[gilded elm]

My personal tastes allow me to enjoy GD's graphics too, it's not a problem for me.

But I can see how that is a turnoff for a lot of people.

[junior oyster]

Yea me too

I see that often in other servers

[gilded elm]

Any time LE gets a surge of players, graphics is perhaps one of the top mentioned criticisms.

And LE obviously has way better graphics than GD

[junior oyster]

Thing is I find it easier to play GD than LE

Graphics are nice but LE strangely feels slower than GD for me

Especially in the early stages

[gilded elm]

I think GD at 1.5x or 2x would be the perfect game speed.

And you can actually change it with an external program that edits your save file.

[junior oyster]

It's why I speed up the game lol

I'm pretty certain you can now change the speed in-game

Oh wait that might be autoloot

[thorn nacelle]

Blizzard lets say was 99% fault for everythink but they know what is going on. they just close their eyes for decades

cause guess what. money

[gilded elm]

TQ lets you change the speed and in fact the Anniversary Edition defaults to Fast (where there's Normal, Fast and Faster, I think)

[junior oyster]

Funny that you can autoloot better in gd than D4

[gilded elm]

You maybe confused the game speed feature from Titan Quest

[thorn nacelle]

Bots will destroy d4 too in the long future

[junior oyster]

Yea and I don't even play tq

[thorn nacelle]

how they did with d2 or any other game

this boosting service-bot-dupe generation is yikes

[junior oyster]

As if that doesn't happen in other games

[thorn nacelle]

yes ofc. cause u lose the meaning of grinding something

the motivation to play the game

[junior oyster]

Bots don't demotivate me tbf

[thorn nacelle]

Bots in wow was good think

cause was speedrunning and had cheap consumes

but in D2 specially online they do effect me

[junior oyster]

I skipped wow and instead played total annihilation/red alert 2 a lot back in the day

[thorn nacelle]

cause i find 1 Jah and sells for 0.01 cent

second week into ladder

[junior oyster]

Best decision I ever made

[thorn nacelle]

yes ofc Wow was a big lesson and also learn about Blizzard how it is 😄

[junior oyster]

No I mean mmos suck imo

[gilded elm]

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/tool-grim-internals-v1-1-9-8-only/38773 This is what I meant. Looks like this tool maybe isn't updated anymore but there are instructions to get it to work... seems a hassle but yeah this would be so nice to have in the game by default. Hoping that Fangs of Asterkarn adds the option 🙏

[junior oyster]

Yea I use that or nowadays I use cheat engine to speed up my game

[thorn nacelle]

same mistakes repeat all over either its mmo-arpg-rpg doesnt matter. Fish always smells from the head

[junior oyster]

Cause they now have autoloot ingame

[gilded elm]

Oh, hm maybe I should get CheatEngine

That's a good call out, didn't know you could do that

[junior oyster]

I do similar stuff in stardew valley with cheat engine

[thorn nacelle]

well suck cant say that

[junior oyster]

Yes I can

[thorn nacelle]

first 3 months at release wow classic was like i was 13 again

😄

[junior oyster]

I didn't say it as a matter of fact

[gilded elm]

So I guess CheatEngine can do some funky stuff to speed up the game's tick rate

[junior oyster]

Re-readm my sentence

[thorn nacelle]

the nostalgia think was funny. people where friendly and only fun

later on become toxic

specially when mastercards appeared

late 60s Naxx40-Aq40

At tbc was already game over

Woltk dead.

[junior oyster]

I'm too dumb for that but if I wanna skip having to go to shop and buying X product I'll use cheat engine to dupe the product and then deduct the gold

[ebon meadow]

double weilding credit cards make a lot of people unhappy , dont really concern me if the dont brake the trade

[gilded elm]

Doesn't Stardew have modding? Probably a community mod for remote shopping lol

[thorn nacelle]

p2w 30.000 euro for 3 extra Str. imagine what gamers exist outthere

Season of discovery

[junior oyster]

Probably I'm just a big fan of cheat engine

[ebon meadow]

i mean we have good example is lost ark lol

[junior oyster]

Would always use it for anything and everything that is offline

[gilded elm]

Fair enough, I think I'll give it a look too because it does seem to have a game speed feature according to people

[thorn nacelle]

reason never touched it. only pictures of it was enough

lost ark.

Offline solo player ftw

no need to waste my time boosting people, no need to be anywhere at any time, i log play log off. gg

[ebon meadow]

its very enjoyable game it has a lot of things done good compared to others like combat , and it not an issue if u can no life the game

[junior oyster]

I mean I never cared for wow right from the early days. Wasn't something I was interested in at all.

[ebon meadow]

for rest yea it is very p2w

[thorn nacelle]

melee warrior in vanilla wow with axes was just better than dopamine

Orc melee axes warrior

ZugZug

pump the metters naked

[ebon meadow]

i was afli warlock lol i never really liked mele

[thorn nacelle]

best experience ever in rpg game personally.

[ebon meadow]

afli then destro

[thorn nacelle]

once u die 405940 times then comes the fun

there is no dungeon or raid in vanilla where i didnt died on every corner for x reason

[ebon meadow]

i still care a lot for my undead warlock it became a part of personality at some point i would never change

lock tar ogar for life

[thorn nacelle]

was thinking to return play bit hardcore but dont wanna give 10 euro per month to Blizzard

not worth it

[ebon meadow]

i dont want to play wow after dragonflight and same i dont want to purchase d4 anymore since they just are greedy as hell

[thorn nacelle]

Good for you mate. Seriusly real life always first 🙂
also played at release and again at classic release was corona times and nerd it a bit xD

[ebon meadow]

i gave up my favorite game witch is modern warfare after Blizz took it or activision brought it to blizz

[junior oyster]

It was bad before acti/bliz took it though?

[ebon meadow]

acti always had it but it was diferent

[junior oyster]

Oh wait I was thinking of Microsoft

[ebon meadow]

MW2 not rework was one of the best after world at war

[thorn nacelle]

my last call of duty was 2

Lan mode Callofduty 2 stomach pain from laughing.

[ebon meadow]

i never liked black ops i think it was raven studios that had it

cod2 was world of war or u mean the actual cod 2 ?

[thorn nacelle]

yes

Activision pushed the limits further

and the milking continued

2017 returned to play wow

[ebon meadow]

they are just greedy , and we complain a lot about tencent xdd

[thorn nacelle]

Retail wow... full of bots,p2w,pvp with bots,gear so stupid made u couldnt even min/max your char

Community ultra toxic pro wow players u must have top 5 Eu parses to join the guild.

Parses which u could buy with your mastercard

[ebon meadow]

if activision would do same as tencent and just put the money up and let devs do their jobs they would of been fine but demanding changes to have microtransaction on everything screw them up

[gilded elm]

I'm doing the Cheat Engine tutorial and this is actually really cool. It teaches you how to use the program to scan game memory for specific values.

[junior oyster]

You've never used cheat engine?

[gilded elm]

Nope lol

But it has a built-in tutorial which is cool

[junior oyster]

I'm at the basic level myself

[fierce moth]

I feel the competation between different topics happened here is stronger and stronger recently haha

[junior oyster]

But that's mostly what you need for most games

[thorn nacelle]

lets talk about Poe Kirra

[junior oyster]

I was able to cheat civ 5 with cheat engine and it was fun

[gilded elm]

So I guess the way you speed up GD with Cheat Engine is to find the memory address that stores the game speed setting?

[junior oyster]

Nope it's same as the grim internals mod

On the right side is enable speedhack

Click on it and then you have the slider

Make sure grim dawn (or any other game you playing is running)

[ebon meadow]

the only freaking cheat codes i can remember using is from empire earth i do still use dev consoles in survivals sometimes to test gameplays

[junior oyster]

Sheesh I remember EE

[gilded elm]

Ah, right. Will try it out after this tutorial

[thorn nacelle]

saw some crazy mods today for red dead 2

[ebon meadow]

at end of the day we happy now as rpgs player we have LE , d4 , poe to circule new content if they dont go on top of eachother and those three can give u content for years and years

[junior oyster]

Agree but I'm also waiting on poe2 and grimdawn dlc3 lol

And StS2 but that's a different genre and the one I'm most excited for

[ebon meadow]

yea i i keep hearing about GD dlc a lot i might need to check that out

[fierce moth]

Busy at Le stuff recently, unfortunately. Will go back to play poe after the event ends + done the artwork

[ebon meadow]

also osrs league coming soon what i have been told , so nolifing games for what left of the year xd

[thorn nacelle]

poe2 maybe Grimdawn dlc nop

[ebon meadow]

poe people having a break to we dont know when next league and also poe2 coming out so .... we nervious and happy at same time

[thorn nacelle]

dunno if Dlc fixes Ram issues tho

[junior oyster]

To each their own. GD is pretty much my fav arpg at this point.

[thorn nacelle]

game was fun but my Ram didnt like it

[ebon meadow]

i wish wolcen didnt screw it up so badly , it has a very good potential

[junior oyster]

And you're telling me poe runs fine? o.O

[ebon meadow]

campaighn is sick skills are cool but the buggs and no fixes just screw it up so badly

[thorn nacelle]

no never played poe longer than 2 hours so

D2r was bad too for over 1-2 years

[junior oyster]

Just saying if you struggled with gd you will likely struggle with poe2

[thorn nacelle]

hmm was Gd think not pc set up

good optimized games run perfect on my rx5700xt nitro still

aka Wukong 2k graphics everythink on High 60 hours played 0 crashes.

[ebon meadow]

yea poe has very lot more than need memory leaks and things not rendering and lagg issues speatially when u play it 8hrs+ every day

[junior oyster]

Skill issue then because GD runs fine on my gtx970

[thorn nacelle]

Sekiro too Elder ring too

isnt about gpu

[ebon meadow]

i was gonna ask about sekiro xd

[thorn nacelle]

is about Ram

sometimes memory leaks listen crazy sounds

[junior oyster]

You mentioned your graphics card?

[thorn nacelle]

and also was a toturial that people told me to follow

in Grimdawn discord

but since i paid for this game not going to waste my time further fix it

[ebon meadow]

it looks very good made havent played my self , but i do play on lowest grapicks anything that requires the game to run smooth every single second

[thorn nacelle]

i did played 60 hours like with this then gg

[thorn nacelle]

@junior oyster.

[junior oyster]

Get better ram

[ebon meadow]

dowload more

[junior oyster]

I have 24gb ram gd runs fine

Same with poe

I only struggle with d4 currently and that's on the overworld

[thorn nacelle]

this Pc set up is my first selfmade. so long it lasts

if having issues with GD np someday may fix it or maybe not

[ebon meadow]

@junior oyster have u played poe with group something like map rotations or Legion ?

[thorn nacelle]

having so many games to choose anyway xD

[ebon meadow]

i have 32 gb and sometimes it struggles with all efects

[junior oyster]

I did back when juiced maps were a thing

I was talking specifically about solo

However blight caused my game to lag like crazy

Especially blight maps

[ebon meadow]

my only issue solo is still sometimes delirium in redmaps but thats always had an issue (an old bugg when we found out that there was sound qs for every partical )

[thorn nacelle]

maybe my graphic settings was over the limit for Grimdawn 😄

who knows what it is.. there is solution for every problem

[junior oyster]

So you don't struggle with blight ravaged?

[ebon meadow]

nope , tbf i hardly do them i try to stay away from blight and harvest

[junior oyster]

Yea then that's probably why lol

[ebon meadow]

also the issue i have is with beyond after rework they just cluster the f out my ram

[gilded elm]

I found that setting a frame limit in PoE resolved my game client stutters/spikes

[ebon meadow]

yea i had to do that for streaming or OBS would just show me middle finger and went everywhere

[junior oyster]

Nothing helps against a blight ravaged map with so much going on

[ebon meadow]

just build towers and stay in middle xdd

but yea theres just so much going on its sort of comprehensive why it brakes

[gilded elm]

It's really weird too, if I don't set a frame limit, then any time I alt tab into PoE in borderless while there is any video playback happening elsewhere the video becomes laggy/choppy/freezes.

[ebon meadow]

becouse u have limited u backgroud frames

it counts it as u tabbed out and goes even lower

[thorn nacelle]

thats the main think

frame limit is good for gaming on general and your pc set up.

[ebon meadow]

tbf fair i dont know how GGG does it so ur pc doesnt get fried playing with so much mob density and stuff going on

it is really suprisingly good and dumb at same time

[thorn nacelle]

if u running on 144hz monitor 72fps is the sweet spot

[gilded elm]

An extremely specialized, in-house game engine that was specifically made for PoE lol

Their lead 3D programmer is a mad man

[thorn nacelle]

mostly running any game at 72fps either high/medium 2k graphics

Cyberpunk-red dead 2 only in 1080p

[ebon meadow]

imagine putting a t16 juiced map density in to d4 and check ur tempretures lmao

[thorn nacelle]

why to make my pc helicopter for 20 fps extra wow

[gilded elm]

Yeah performance has in fact even been cited as a reason for why mob density was so low earlier on in D4's history.

[thorn nacelle]

either u have pc monster can get those fps and still u will have shatters cause game isnt perfeclty optimized

perfect optimized games running with lower pc set up smooth

[gilded elm]

That said, D4 also plays really smooth. PoE and D4 both have the smoothest experiences, their respective game engines are both quite good.

[ebon meadow]

i still remeber OP playing h1z1 br with 11k pc and running on like 40 fps xd

[thorn nacelle]

D4 start getting fixed 4 seasons after its own release

[gilded elm]

Well, D4 has some new performance issues now with DLC, but they'll work through those soon enough lol

[thorn nacelle]

Resistances in diablo game did not exist.

if d4 got released season 4 may had a better change for sure.

Even Witcher 3 horse riding was better vs D4

[gilded elm]

I'm worried for EHG's ability to push the boundaries of Unity for LE lol

[thorn nacelle]

dunno prolly Red dead 1 😄

you saw the ultra scam.. Red dead 1 50 euros remake.. sure bro

[ebon meadow]

i dont think Unity can cope with what they want for the game , i m hoping i m wrong

[thorn nacelle]

will pay 50 euros for 15 years old game

Milk me moarrr!

[gilded elm]

Me too. LE is already one of the better performing 3D games made in Unity, yet its shortcomings are glaringly obvious to us all.

[ebon meadow]

u talking to people that payed Blizz for last 24 years at least lmao ofc most dont care about the price tag

[thorn nacelle]

money just material who cares right. correct

[gilded elm]

Basically, yeah. I have a good job and a decent amount of disposable income to spend on my hobbies (like gaming). Price isn't really a big deal to me in most cases.

[ebon meadow]

for a lot of countrys yes , it hurts when someone from something example like Turky has to pay a month wage for the game

[thorn nacelle]

sometimes isnt about the money but of their move actually most of the times

money comes and go

[ebon meadow]

it still hurts me to but i have payed for 4 wow expantions for friends

[gilded elm]

If I buy something and I don't like it, I just won't buy something against from the same company (or I'll be very cautious about it).

[thorn nacelle]

actually have to buy it on steam. good call

[gilded elm]

I'm no fool, I don't force myself to play games I don't enjoy.

[thorn nacelle]

but maybe is only from Launcher then u can play it on steam

its the new trick

[ebon meadow]

i come from console and reason i came is for early acces survivals to pc i didnt mind suporting small companies with 8,12,18 euros for EA but that doesnt even exist anymore

now why i bother if the game cost me same on pc as on console and on console its always more polished

less fps yes

[gilded elm]

Also kinda depends on the game itself, some games just don't play that great (functionally) on console compared to PC.

[thorn nacelle]

ps5 is 60 fps or?

[gilded elm]

But if you're just the type of person to play a few major triple A titles each year, then yeah console is hard to beat.

[gilded elm]

More even, it just depends on the game as well I think

[ebon meadow]

yup i started d3 on release date on ps3 and i coud never play an arpg on controler today after playing on pc

[thorn nacelle]

then ps5 pro arrives cheap for 700 Dollars only for 65 fps

[gilded elm]

Some games might not be optimized to run at 60 FPS on the PS5, yes it's actually that silly nowadays.

[thorn nacelle]

joking about 65 fps tbh 60 fps to my eyes is more than enough

70 u see difference too ofc

[ebon meadow]

60 fps is totaly fine

[thorn nacelle]

but over than that dunno personally no need more

had 380fps playing wow classic

😅

ofc i locked it down to 72.

[ebon meadow]

maybe if u playing something like monster hunter or similar that u enjoy more graphicly than gameplay wise

[gilded elm]

60 FPS is enough, provided that it's also coupled with the correct refresh rate.

[ebon meadow]

like i m playing ark right now i wish i coud run it over 100fps

[thorn nacelle]

you dont need to stress your pc for nothing

[gilded elm]

60 FPS will look more noticably choppier when the frame rate isn't in sync with the refresh rate.

[thorn nacelle]

except u playing Counter strike and going to tournament with your crew aiming for top 1 world

kekW

[soft fulcrum]

I definitely need more than 60 fps

[gilded elm]

So like 60hz or 120hz would both look and play great at 60 FPS

[soft fulcrum]

My monitor is 280hz

[thorn nacelle]

Yes ofc

[ebon meadow]

doesnt need to be that any shooter u play on lowest setting

[thorn nacelle]

minimum the half of it tbh to get free sync if i am correct

[ebon meadow]

or any competetive one

[gilded elm]

You want your Refresh Rate to be divisible by your Frame Rate.

[thorn nacelle]

but the question is your eyes does see the difference

100 fps vs 200 fps

[gilded elm]

Your eyes will see the difference more clearly when it's not in sync, yes.

[ebon meadow]

^

[gilded elm]

Well, not for 100fps no

Not likely

[thorn nacelle]

cause i do believe humanoid eyes max 12-30 fps

😄

[gilded elm]

Nah we can perceive more than that

[thorn nacelle]

personally played on 30 fps

[ebon meadow]

yea there was a limt that our eyes can persive fps

[thorn nacelle]

60 fps and over that

yes u notice the difference between 30 and 60

between 60 and 70 also

after 100 dunno losing it

[gilded elm]

But a lot of times what we're perceiving is also the mismatching frame rate and refresh rate which leads to noticeable gaps of time where the frame hasn't refreshed.

[soft fulcrum]

In my own experience there was a gigantic change going from 60->144hz

[thorn nacelle]

reason u have 280hz monitor makes sense

[soft fulcrum]

and then a smaller, but still noticeable one from 144 to 240+

[gilded elm]

Yep, there is. You can see it in the simple act of just dragging windows across your screen. It's one of those "once you see it, you can't unsee it" things IMO.

[thorn nacelle]

seems have to buy new monitor.. yikes

😅

[soft fulcrum]

the upgrade to at least 144 is one I cannot recommend enough

[thorn nacelle]

yes but if run games at 144hz means u need also solid pc set up to hold this power.

[gilded elm]

I think for most people even 120 is enough

Just a guess but I think the vast majority of people can't tell the difference between 120, 144, 165 and 240

[thorn nacelle]

thats the think with PC set up.. u change 1 think have to buy 10 other thinks to make it work

or actually get the money u spend by buying that X 280hz monitor.

if i change Monitor need to change gpu-cpu-motherboard-psu-Ram maybe too

or u just buy new Ps5 pro and 1 monitor and gg 😄 (Console gaming casual)

[ebon meadow]

i played poe on tc 40"monitor for 5 years xd switching to an actual monitor is hell of a good change

even its a crappy one

refresh rate makes a lot of diference

and if u can run anything like 1050ti and above u should be fine with 144hz

just dont use cheap cables or anything like input converters as main screen

[thorn nacelle]

you can find good monitors from 250-850 euro range

ofc the more u pay the better quality.

[fierce moth]

Sounds crazy 🤣 https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieGaming/s/QE0l2QJelZ

[thorn nacelle]

thats an example only.. was wondering how is to be infront of this big monitor for many hours gaming

i feel 27 zoll monitor is more than enough for gaming or maybe 32 max

[ebon meadow]

1 meter away from a 40" just saying

i need glasses to so dont do that

u live in game at that point xd

[thorn nacelle]

you should be in a kitchen to see what is crazy

😉

Only fanatism left to complete this Dream-Zeal Paladin. xD

@ebon meadow

[hexed stream]

it's not, I killed it in 1s

d2 was my first arpg I came into contact, when I was small kid or so, but my adaptability killed off my nostalgia

nothing more important to me than to adapt with era

good thing is that d2 or d2r is mostly abandoned by younger generations, they are not born and raised to spend time the way d2 was intended to

people say it's outdated and it's correct
young people can't get into it, only older people can hang in there with the power of nostalgia

[sand wigeon]

120 is definitely enough for me, but I can rarely hit 120 in games where I care about having a high FPS

Laptop moment

Even though my laptop has a 165hz monitor

I did some PC part picking recently, though, and a basic modern build would be about $1400 if I wanted somewhat higher end components, which really isn’t bad, since that’s every component full price

[sand wigeon]

That’s also not choosing the most budget friendly options

[hexed stream]

mine is 100 only, ultrawide 34" 2k, bought for around 300 Euro, still good so far and I don't intend to change it until it breaks

color fidelity is great, imo above its price

[fierce moth]

It's locked 🤷‍♀️ Only can play mobile version @desert jasper

[desert jasper]

Weird, I can see it

[fierce moth]

Published by XD games exclusively

PC can earn less money than mobile and mobile games is the main market so XD prohibit Chinese to play PC version 🤭

[vagrant topaz]

You can always download an android emulator like bluestack

[fierce moth]

Oh free games, that's more simple then. I log out my account to switch to HK region then I can start downloading 🤭

I had thought it need to be purchased. 🤭 Fine, XD games still run the same strategy from Chinese market. Free download + in-game purchase

I'm interested in how long zero-purchased players can play this game then

[hexed stream]

isn't this game another p2w

on the other hand TL3 is a huge scam goddarn

[fierce moth]

🥴 ...
If POE represent the top challenge for your skills and your strategy, then torchlight is the lowest one.

Too simple...

Even more simple than D4. The first impression

And classic Chinese game element is everywhere, exaggerated and insane elegant character rig (their attire)

[fierce moth]

Oh well the decision I made 3 years ago is proved right.
Any pictures posted on Twitter will be assets for training their AI.

[gilded elm]

Looks like standard ToS language to me. I feel it should be common sense that businesses are going to use whatever data you share to improve their products or marketing.

The fact that they are now including language to specifically mention generative AI doesn't seem huge, they were very likely already using your data for these purposes even before they started to incorporate generative AI.

Analytics was a huge industry long before generative AI became popular.

So I think to myself... they have already been learning from your personal data even without AI, why does it now suddenly matter if they use AI?

I try to avoid Twitter whenever I can because it extracts more value than it provides for me. Free just means I'm the product, and if I'm going to be the product, I better be getting something back in return (which I don't lol).

[maiden widget]

because it provides a lot more than usage stats for artists to companies especially with the amount of good art available there - companies circumvent paying artists that way

[gilded elm]

I'm not entitled to use Twitter. As far as I'm concerned, they're entitled to provide their services under whatever terms and conditions they want as long as they aren't holding me at gunpoint. I do just fine in my life without Twitter.

Artists perhaps shouldn't be uploading their art to Twitter if they don't want to sublicense their works to Twitter royalty-free.

[maiden widget]

thats another thing, being able to just randomly generate extremely similar art is still basically stealing from the artists. Twitter would be nothing without the content people provide. Works both ways. I dont have an account there either 😉

[gilded elm]

Also the controversy with artists and generative AI is entirely about consent. They can't claim this rationale in this case because they are explicitly consenting when they upload their art to Twitter. It's completely different from someone else taking their work without permission and then training a model off of that.

Twitter's ToS states that when you upload something to Twitter, you are giving them granting them a royalty-free license to use or sublicense as they see fit. It's in the terms. They agreed to it explicitly.

[maiden widget]

maybe big corpo should be forced to ask that upfront without hiding everything in extremely long TOS nobody reads

[gilded elm]

They generally do. You are notified whenever the ToS is updated and asked to read it and tell you that continuing to use the services implies your agreement.

I don't think the language in that screenshot really constitutes hiding anything. ToS are large and different parts of it are more or less important to people for different reasons. I admit I skip over a lot of ToS reading as well, but I generally assume that anything I produce on a free platform is implicitly licensed to the platform's owner.

And frankly, as someone who works in tech and very closely with generative AI in fact, this doesn't bother me any more than anything they've already been doing with our data.

I also have a generally good understanding of the legality of how companies collect and use my data, so when something is free I will usually just assume the worst without really needing to read the ToS. If I'm paying for a service, however, I will definitely be more keen to read the terms.

[hexed stream]

same as steam, only recently they officially declare that you only own license to access the game, you don't own it

[gilded elm]

Of course, but wasn't this common knowledge? I could've told you this 2 decades ago

[hexed stream]

no, I think less than 1% of steam users know that

never ever overestimate common people's common sense

[gilded elm]

This goes back to a lot of old and long since debated intellectual property issues since the early days of the Internet too if I remember. Same reason why the film industry gets upset about watch parties even though you "own" the movie or whatever, they leased the content to you, you don't own it, so by sharing it they consider it stealing.

Steam's "Family Sharing" is meant to be a way around this by allowing game devs/publishers to opt into sharing.

[hexed stream]

still, only 1% users know that

it doesn't matter what debate

[gilded elm]

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still am lol

[hexed stream]

common people don't read up on those things

[gilded elm]

This is probably why copyright is so messed up here (in the US), nobody understands it.

[hexed stream]

it's everywhere I think

[gilded elm]

Nobody understood copyright before the Internet came along, then the Internet came and made the whole thing messier. Now we're in another major phase of copyright confusion with the emergence of generative AI throwing another wrench into the mess.

Solution: Ban the Internet 👍

[hexed stream]

another solution: nuclear winter

[gilded elm]

The real question is... now that you know you don't "own" the games you buy, does that actually make you less likely to buy games? 🙂

[hexed stream]

technically it's the same for phone, once they stop updating the OS for your phone, the situation is pretty dire

[gilded elm]

I actually prefer Android as a platform over iOS, but I still buy iPhones exactly because of this reason. Most Android manufacturers will only support OS updates up to 2 years. Apple, as much as I dislike the company, goes out of their way to ensure long-term support of iOS across very old devices, usually around 5-6 years of OS updates.

[hexed stream]

I think samsung S and Z support up to 5-6 years as well

my S21 still got latest updates here and there

[gilded elm]

Samsung's default support is 3 years as well, so they're on the better end of Android manufacturers.

[maiden widget]

i have enough trust into steam as a platform that i dont really care about not really owning the game - in the worst case i could just get a copy somewhere of the stuff i really want to play should steam ever go offline

isnt samsung like 7y by now?

or just the topend

[hexed stream]

yeah, since you know you don't really own it, the only choice is to choose the most trustworthy distributor

[hexed stream]

top end, and I don't think it's 7y, maybe 5y max

[gilded elm]

Yeah looks like Samsung actually changed their support policy from 3 to 7 years across the board.

That's dope

[maiden widget]

a55 is 5y, interesting

[gilded elm]

Gigachad move by Samsung

[hexed stream]

oh really? 7y is doped

[gilded elm]

7 years of OS updates actually makes a phone worth buying IMO

[hexed stream]

my samsung s21 will last for another 4 years haha

[maiden widget]

makes getting the topend actually a better idea now, cool

[gilded elm]

My iPhone is fairly new, but assuming Samsung keeps this policy, I think my next phone will be Samsung

[maiden widget]

i still dont like that my samsung a52s vibration randomly gave out after 2y and a bit

normally i use my phones a lot longer than that

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I shop for phones with the expectation that I'll use it for at least 5 years

So the idea that I won't get OS updates after only a couple years, or the hardware fails in some way short of that lifespan just rubs me wrong. I dislike iOS but Apple knows how to make durable phones and knows how to support them long-term.

I do miss Android though

[maiden widget]

so far i just didnt want to spend 900€+ on a phone so i just got midrange now

[gilded elm]

I've seen a few of the Samsung A series phones shopping in the past. They're definitely low power budget phones but they seemed good enough for the one or two things they're expected to do.

Not a bad deal at all if you've managed to stretch its lifespan 2 years

[maiden widget]

yeah not too sad about it as i got it for 190ish, i still would like for stuff to be either more durable or more repairable

headphone jack would be a big bonus too

[thorn nacelle]

is not about what i did or what u did. Numbers showed that 2018 once Wow classic got released same as D2r got released 2019-20 when it was.

i am not expecting new generation to like or play d2r. Everbody is free to play whatever he/she likes. Fortnite is also amazing game for them too!

Personally i just cant adapt with this Era cause based on years gaming made my own idea about games. What streamers or youtubers say is not my concern.
Prefer to play an outdated game where made history during 2-3 decades and wait for something new than follow the ERA with closed eyes.

on top i refuse to give an single Euro for this company named Blizzard.

[hexed stream]

no worry, millions of others are giving

[gilded elm]

I'm a simple person, game is fun? Take my money. D4 actually feels worth the money now lol

[fierce moth]

😵 The wall is more complex than the fence to be honest. They just connect each other in a way out of my box.

Don't say they're created by themselves yet

I looked at the wall for the whole afternoon but just did a bit work, really hard

[sand wigeon]

It was always officially states in TOS, there just wasn’t a notif on purchases

[gilded elm]

I love how I can play PoE in bed on my Steam Deck, fall asleep with the game on, wake up hours later and I'm still in the game just AFK in a dungeon because there's no inactivity kick lol

[slender drift]

Stay strong, you can do it 🐸

[fierce moth]

My index finger is shivering...Maybe it need a rest (Let's launch le to play)

[sand wigeon]

TBF the idea that they’re masochistic is a joke

They’re still made to be relaxing and fun

[blissful token]

Not sure if Teardown is your thing, kirra

it uses voxel art

[fierce moth]

A game which too edged and nothing interesting on gameplay but overpriced

[maiden widget]

Trying some steam demos atm and heretical has so much potential to be cool I hope it goes well

[fierce moth]

remind me of I don't try the house of Tesla yet

[hexed stream]

1 month till poe2

[fierce moth]

🙏 The most complex architecture structure I did in history without doubt.

Oh damn, forget to sync with curve shape on both sides 😅

[fierce moth]

Ok, the first floor close to be done finally, just the floor pattern on the middle is left then I can work on ground floor

Happy for the current progress.

[desert jasper]

Looking great so far

[fierce moth]

New character's time, runemaster Create one at first

[desert jasper]

have fun

[fierce moth]

Here's a question. Available names are out lol

[narrow token]

Good god, I've never had the endurance to get to 100.

[desert jasper]

Clearly nuaLarriK

[fierce moth]

ohhhh Xdddddd good idea!

[junior oyster]

Damn very creative names. I just normally write kdshjaskdjlsadjhkldsa

[fierce moth]

I like being creative 😎

[thorn nacelle]

@maiden widgetStarted playing Bonesys Mod d2r Remoded..
So far its amazing the effort and the huge life changes they did into the game

+endgame content, 100 new runewords,set items, Class rebalancing, gg

[sand wigeon]

So much longer for the actual release

I’ll be waiting a while

[mental talon]

If I could enter stasis until PoE 2's early access I would.

[sand wigeon]

I can’t afford the $30 price tag so I’ma just wait for full release

[mental talon]

Yeah understandable, I've been waiting so long for this early access I'm trying to not go insane between now and then lol

[sand wigeon]

I get it

[fierce moth]

Discover an excellent way to improve English listening by accident 😆

Chinese subtitles ❎
Russian subtitles ✅

Then I must focus on listening what are they saying