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waxen sonnet
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longsword is getting better leo

stable shore
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Tbh we had a lot butthurt people after patch release

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I hope we won't have too many of those

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Criticism is valid and there is a lot to critic, but they always have the most horrendously ass arguments

warped wren
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I think the dumbest thing to do if you try a new game and it falls on its ass is to go to its Discord and argue with people

stable shore
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Argue with stranger online is rarely a smart thing to do generally speaking

junior oyster
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True

stable shore
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Or at least put effort into it and be coherent

junior oyster
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I made that mistake before

stable shore
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Though it's a high bar on discord

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I do like interesting debates online such as what i can have with boru

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Or deias and the boys

junior oyster
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If you disagree with someone (online or irl) best thing imo is to ignore them

stable shore
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Heh it depends on how they take it

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If it's elaborate and done in a good mood that's pleasant ngl

junior oyster
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I mean especially depending on the subject at hand and who you are talking to

stable shore
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Yep haha

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Those complaint andy i mentionned earlier are people not worth interactive with

waxen sonnet
warped wren
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Duolingo monitoring my chats @stable shore

stable shore
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Duolingo got the accent on the e right Stronge

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Next question will likely be atisse themed, be carefull atisseok

lethal bane
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He m'apple Léo

stable shore
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Close

waxen sonnet
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they m'apple?

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its 2023 after all

simple needle
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Je mapelle léo

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Je suis tres belle

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Avec du fromage

simple needle
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Despite all these , makes me wonder why we put up with these shit for so long

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Tbf I don't really play much now but love the community

warped wren
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I want to play but they haven't been fixing fuck all on purpose

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So may as well wait for 1.0

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If it's still a shit show even then, well...

vagrant topaz
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SpellBlade Bugged ?

warped wren
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It was bugged last I played

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Wasn't auto activating despite enough investment in CDR to make it perma

vagrant topaz
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Oh the autocast

warped wren
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And wasn't giving all its buffs

vagrant topaz
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True

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I usually numlock it, so I forgot about the node

warped wren
vagrant topaz
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CDR does does not work on EW ??

warped wren
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That's the bug, it's not working

twilit mountain
# stable shore Or deias and the boys

I fucking love arguing with people who actually know what they're talking about and aren't bringing dumbass biases or absolutely inane bullshit to the discussion.

warped wren
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Or at least it wasn't as of September

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Idk if they've done anything since then but

twilit mountain
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Yeah!

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That other 99.99% I'll get wrapped up with anyway, and I'll regret it 20 minutes later when I'm banging my head against a brick wall

stable shore
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rip is piss bozo, you won't be missed

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also

twilit mountain
stable shore
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how is catalyst finding in ultimatum ?

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in term of quantity, not profit

twilit mountain
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....not great. Ultimatum has a tendency to give you 8 rounds of dogshit corrupted rares.

stable shore
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hum fuck

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that's annoying for ssf

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i'll just harvest swap

copper pawn
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new league wen

stable shore
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i improved my defences a bit

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more of a short term solution here

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with flasks on

simple needle
copper pawn
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nah isn't that d4 season? won't play if there's no new things though

simple needle
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Season of the evil Loom

warped wren
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I was considering going SS next league perhaps

copper pawn
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SS = solo self? sorry too noob to understand poe abbreviations

simple needle
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splitting steel

copper pawn
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I guess too early to decide what to play next league, coz transfigured gems are newly introduced this league, there will surely be some massive rebalancing next league

warped wren
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Splitting Steel is not a transfigured gem.

twilit mountain
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There is a transfigured version though

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No idea what it does

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Oh apparently it just turns it back to the old version

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Why tf would you use that

warped wren
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Masochism

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My cat's been kneading and making baby noises all evening lol

waxen sonnet
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Makin biscuits 🙂

warped wren
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Yeah she keeps doing it on her little bed

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Idk why

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Just stands there for minutes at a stretch kneading and making these baby meows at me

turbid trail
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If you run 80+ quant maps catalyst farming is not that bad

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Just remember to take 25% chance to duplicate rewards tree nodes

stable shore
copper pawn
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this league I'm the gold digger, next league I'll probably sell shovels

daring shore
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everyone is a gold digger this leauge

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next leauge everyone will be selling shovels

stable shore
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why would people buy shovels ? there will be no gold to dig up

copper pawn
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yeah, it hurts to think that next league I'll be 1% rich compared to now

elfin stream
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I'll happily be 1% rich

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I don't care about how much I have I just wanna have more than everyone else

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trying to emulate how rich people think irl

lethal bane
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Emulate grtting eaten

elfin stream
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I'd respond but I don't like punching down 😉

daring shore
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dibs on torgors arms if he becomes rich

sand wigeon
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i want torg’s left pinky finger

warped wren
stable shore
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well of course

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it's stil easy to make hundred divine outside of this league, i'm just meming

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only bad players will feel poor

warped wren
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Tbf I will still feel poor not having two mirrors KEKL but it's fine

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Next league I will try to farm mirror without MF stuff

twilit mountain
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I always feel poor Sadge

stable shore
copper pawn
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Only if they buff ssf drop rate like LE does

warped wren
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just tried an Uber Shaper, kinda vaporized him

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guess my plan stands, Formed farming -> Ushaper farming

copper pawn
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Bama?

turbid trail
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Buffing ssf drop rates in poe would make it too easy

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Even before affliction you could farm almost everything on ssf

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If you are efficent and have knowledge

warped wren
stable shore
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but tbh i'm fine with some OP unique being unaccessible, they trivialize the game so it's less fun

turbid trail
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By almost I meant things like original sin, forbidden jewels or 3 stat watchers eye and t0 uniques that dont have cards. You can farm anything else with time investment

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Divines are also free since we have sanctum

stable shore
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Indeed

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Sanctum is insane for ssf

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It was a complete game changer

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You can actually meta craft intensively

junior oyster
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near hedge
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can totally recommend the first one. its a nice challenge if youre into that type of shit

junior oyster
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I have the game lol

placid yarrow
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frostpunk is dope

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just saw this trailer, i'm pretty pumped

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they announced it ages ago, i just want a date lol

daring shore
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i still think Original sin is not a proper uniq

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for the amount of CBT you go tru to acquire it

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it needs to have another line that says you " deal 30% more chaos damage" or something

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the effort to get it does not match the reward imo

stable shore
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that'd make sense if everyone had to get it himself

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ggg must balance for trade people

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it's not particulary expensive

turbid trail
mossy thorn
stable shore
mossy thorn
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Valdos has had a very wonky effect on the economy

stable shore
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Yeah, but second to mageblood is not that expensive as i said

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It's strong enough to fit this price

mossy thorn
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I mean if a mirror is cheap, then yes it was cheap last league

stable shore
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i think so

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but for ssf, i'd rather farm a MB than this ring no joke

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i wish there was another way to make everything poison other than this ring and pneumatic dagger

warped wren
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also in niche cases Volkuur's

stable shore
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tincture isn't gonna last long sadly

warped wren
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y'know I hope it does go core

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not Charms, they're OP af

mossy thorn
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There's the boots no?

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They suck to build around though

warped wren
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Tinctures they can consider making core

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they enable a lot of interesting stuff to work

stable shore
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yep, i'd be able to go for a rebuke of the vaal PF in ssf

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i have the sword and i'm kinda sad i can't really use it on a viable build

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i thought about a trinity rive build with it

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but it will likely suck ass

warped wren
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I would not be shocked to see them make TWWT, Pragmatism, and that funny amulet core

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but I'd be happy to also see Tinctures go core with some kind of notable on the passive tree to enable them

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who knows

stable shore
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just make them equippable by anyone with a limit of one ngl

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i don't think they are an obvious choice for characters anyway no ?

mossy thorn
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I want the +10 level chest to go core, so I can selfishly make a dot cap build on like 2 div with maw

shadow sundial
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scarab explosion #2 on this map

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oh and a mirror i guess

stable shore
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a mageblood too

shadow sundial
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ill have to go check, i stashed the mirror just in case of a crash

warped wren
stable shore
shadow sundial
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got some sexy altars

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and running UNID map with matching sextant

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i insta-exploded that spire too so i only got 1 abyss patch

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it was a juicy one though, exile

stable shore
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this ring is kinda op ngl

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the last line is juicy

warped wren
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you do maps like 2-3x faster

stable shore
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ok time to farm boss and essences only

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is it a clown move to use my fractured orb for make t1 spell supp fractured boots ?

stable shore
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i need to essence craft them with avoid ele ailment

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yes

warped wren
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like, depends on how badly you need them. It's not that hard to get suppress boots to drop, surely not harder than farming a frac orb

stable shore
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hum well i found 2 orbs

shadow sundial
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fulcrum chieftan can struggle with legion if i dont have my ignite chain started (vaal breach helps though)

warped wren
stable shore
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and no good ilvl 85 fractured base

warped wren
stable shore
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i originaly planned to keep them for a melee weapon

warped wren
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fair point

stable shore
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but the saviour will likely be easier to get than a good sword and is stronger ngl

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and also more fun and baseg

warped wren
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frankly I think you're better off finagling suppress in other ways

stable shore
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hum i'll keep the orbs then i guess

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who knows if i desperately need a giga rare item later on

warped wren
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I'd save those orbs for some really giga stuff

stable shore
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yeah, mostly weapons

warped wren
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like hitting Flaring / Merciless on a phys weapon

stable shore
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dictator

warped wren
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yeah that

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or like a t1 ele roll

stable shore
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i'll likely keep to make a staff

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an eventuality rod

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i like staff crit zerker builds

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maybe i'll go for a crit glacial hammer staff build who knows

stable shore
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i DO have a legacy heatshiver lmao

warped wren
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118% quant without legacy gear, just in league

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what the fuck

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also what the fuck

stable shore
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not even max rolled ventor lmao

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mid build

warped wren
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yeah he's working to get a 6% quant implicit ventor's

turbid trail
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I love that if you have unclaimed reward from some legacy race you can claim it in any league and bring there items that belongs to standard

warped wren
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he's got the mirrors to afford it

turbid trail
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5% is max

warped wren
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oh was it, I thought it was 6, my bad

turbid trail
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His boots has 28% quant btw

warped wren
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watch him pour 10 mirrors into the helmet to get some absolutely disgusting result

warped wren
turbid trail
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I assume locks for implicit

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Also that awakened enhance in tshot link lol

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for 2 extra secondary projs

stable shore
turbid trail
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Even with 1000% it will still be bad

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Weapons are just too good nowadays

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Even legacy kaom would be just okay

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But things like legacy taste of hate or atziri gloves

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Those where broken

warped wren
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think you'd have to throw a near max roll Adorned + metric ton of abyss jewels with flat added phys to make Facebreaker worth using

stable shore
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it goes for 5 mirrors in std somehow

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because rare i guess

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truthfully i doubt anyone buy it

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neat

turbid trail
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Pog

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Uber time

stable shore
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i should be nearly ready for the feared so may be handy

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i kinda want a +2 eye and awakened vicious proj first

turbid trail
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white/blue feared is easy

stable shore
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i'm worried about chayula

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i have 31% res

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so i want to burst him down fast

warped wren
stable shore
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yep !

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so either i cap chaos or i get giga dam

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both works

turbid trail
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Nah, leech will keep you alive

stable shore
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no way, i think she can one tap me legit

warped wren
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I'm probably gonna buy a carry for Feared and Hidden just because I don't want to risk my Bob and spectres

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there's some niche things that can kill them in those two specific invites

stable shore
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btw i reworked my build in depthj

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i feel very tanky now

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with good dmg it feels great to play

turbid trail
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Show pob

stable shore
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still not enough for ubers, but i have many things to go for

turbid trail
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You just have to be eater viable to farm nimis

stable shore
stable shore
turbid trail
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With that everything else is free

stable shore
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actually i have evasion

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which will make tentacles much easier to deal with

turbid trail
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swap crit flask for chaos res one'

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And feared should be free

stable shore
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i may swap life flask instead

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i don't think i can bleed in feared

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and i can stay close to boss

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is there a way i can guarantee 100% flask uptime ?

turbid trail
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No

stable shore
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i have that but i need to be hitting all the time during effect sadly

warped wren
stable shore
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i have some nice stuff atisseok

warped wren
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wait where's the charms

stable shore
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i chose standard because i find league mechanic too op

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it will ruin my ssf experience

turbid trail
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I would swap determ for purity of lightning for eater'

warped wren
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not really

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the mechanic only becomes OP when you scale it with player quant, rarity, and pack size / rare mobs

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which you're not doing anyway

stable shore
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hum, that's fair

warped wren
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if anything, the mechanic is really kinda bad without investment into at least one of those 3 vectors

stable shore
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oh well i won't start over anyway

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standard it is

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i play too much other games to care about leagues ngl

warped wren
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because it makes the mobs absurdly difficult at times without being commensurately more rewarding

stable shore
turbid trail
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Thing is that you dont need mf gear to make this mechanic broken, just bit of juice

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Wisps will carry

warped wren
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yeah, so at least investment into pack size and rare mob spawns

stable shore
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quin actually self farmed every t1 he wanted

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with no mf

turbid trail
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Also, do you have enlighten?>

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I would also recraft your helmet or gloves and craft rare boots

stable shore
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it's in the work

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enlighten i don't haver

turbid trail
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You are missing a lot on eldrith implicits

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You could swap rmr for phys taken as on helmet with enlighten

stable shore
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it's in the work

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i have one already made

turbid trail
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You can farm lab for exceptional gems

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Also reduced mana cost suffix on diamond flask

stable shore
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i'll show you the helmet i made

turbid trail
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And some max lightning res on helmet for U eater farming

stable shore
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i'm missing the other implicit

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i can't equip the helmet now so i didn't bother

turbid trail
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Big

stable shore
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for the boots, i need to get t2+ spell supp, essence avoid ele ailment and good defence/life/ms

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for gloves, same but with spell supp

turbid trail
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You need chaos res on 2 gear pieces

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At least t2

stable shore
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i'd like it on boots ideally

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but then i'll be looking for 3 suffixes ...

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it's starting to be rough

turbid trail
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Its easy on fract base

stable shore
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yes, assuming i have them lmao

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this is what i work on atm

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ilvl 84, best i have for now

turbid trail
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Its just 1 essence lol

stable shore
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it's my base lmao

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i haven't hit anything

turbid trail
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Hmm, essence until suppress and suffixes cannot be changed into reforge chaos and pray

stable shore
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that's probably the play i guess

faint mauve
stable shore
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for gloves i sadly have no good fractured base at all

stable shore
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gg !

faint mauve
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didnt expect to clear the feared in one try

turbid trail
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Are you even ailment immune?

faint mauve
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especially when uber atziri one shots me

stable shore
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with a chest, essence mod on boots and implicit i will be

turbid trail
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Time to equip ventors and farm green jewels

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That will work too

faint mauve
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of course after 6 uber atziri runs i never dropped atziri's disfavour

stable shore
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i'm an idiot, i forgot jewel rolls immunity now ...

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that solves the body armour struggle

turbid trail
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Ye, but abyssal only

stable shore
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you sure ? i think normal jewel does too

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just less value

turbid trail
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They roll less effect/duration

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Its bad

stable shore
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if only i could get ancestral vision

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this would solve so many things

turbid trail
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Disfavour is really rare

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Do some mfing

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It will take less than a week

faint mauve
stable shore
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actually i'll check something

faint mauve
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but yeah an upgrade for my weapon would be good

turbid trail
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You can also farm jewel cards

faint mauve
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i ran 30 atziri sets yesterday only end up with 6 uber atziri sets

turbid trail
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Oh, that ruthless

faint mauve
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yah disfavour is like an actual target farm option in ruthless

turbid trail
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That's impressive then

faint mauve
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other than getting lucky on fossils etc on despot axes

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uber atziri is the hardest out of the bosses for me this league

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quickstep is required to dodge out of flame blast otherwise i get one shotted

turbid trail
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Maven must be pure cancer then

faint mauve
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maven is fine easier than uber atziri for me

turbid trail
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On uber atziri I meant

faint mauve
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not really i think i got lucky

stable shore
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hum i should farm the garish power card

faint mauve
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im not gonna farm feared for fun

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just once is enough lol

turbid trail
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Normal maven is quite easy even without movement skills

stable shore
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it's actual currency deletation

faint mauve
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if a player is selling the feared completion then its big currency gains but i dont do carries

stable shore
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oh right, you could do that

turbid trail
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But Im kinda biased since I love that fight

stable shore
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item aside only chayula will give you some usual profit

faint mauve
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yeh my char is nearly done anyway , can retire boneshit after this ive reached my goals with it

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only thing left to consider if i want to push for lvl 96

warped wren
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+1 maxres Lightning Coil on HC is like 100c

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this league dood

stable shore
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how

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hc is specificaly the league where that should be expensive as hell

warped wren
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flooded

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you drop like multiple LCs a map

turbid trail
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You can farm t7 maps

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And thats free if you have decent char

warped wren
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I stopped picking up LCs like within the first week of MFing

stable shore
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i tend to forget how common it is

warped wren
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2nd week I even stopped picking up Greed's, because now only 2-corrupt Greeds matter

shadow sundial
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I turned off the 1-1.5c currency tier in my filter and mapping is so much more chill. I also have basically every unique base type hidden except for the two belts

copper pawn
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farming mavens inv, does it matter the quant and quality of maps, or only map tiers?

faint mauve
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pretty sure you just allocate the atlas passives and then do t14-16

copper pawn
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Dafuq, d4 s3 has wasd movement?

warped wren
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deep delvers this league truly gone off the deep end

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fucking 12k depth

copper pawn
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Deeper daddy

warped wren
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I don't think it's even possible to actually price Rudy's build

stable shore
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644k ehp 700m dps

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penance brand truly is a balanced skill

warped wren
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I don't think I've seen a build this minmaxed

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like, ever

stable shore
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you got me curious

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i'll check

warped wren
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this is

stable shore
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imagine having crafted mods on your weapon

warped wren
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afaik that's the best Penis Brand weapon in the league

stable shore
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i've seen many more min maxed build ngl

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he has many crafted mods, and lacks many max rolls here and there

warped wren
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I know rue is using a mirrored version of that dagger

warped wren
stable shore
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even in league i saw better

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but it's very impressive regardless

warped wren
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but this build is without a doubt north of 100 mirrors

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by league prices

stable shore
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no way

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hang on, what items put this price ?

warped wren
stable shore
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oh

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wait

warped wren
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I really wish I was exaggerating but I don't think I am

stable shore
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2 mirrors

warped wren
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I was very serious when I said it's nearly impossible to price this build

stable shore
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what is worth so much in his build ?

warped wren
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he's literally using a mirror tier item in every slot

stable shore
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his MB is insane but i doubt it makes it hit 100 mirrors

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gloves and boots aren't mirror tier imo

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and the rest simply cost a mirror service + fee

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unless he is the owner of the base

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in which case this is a different story

warped wren
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brother, I'd urge you to look at the jewels and charms and their resp. prices

stable shore
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yeah i saw them

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100 mirrors is hard to believe

warped wren
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the Balance of Terror does not even exist dude

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it's literally one of a kind

stable shore
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the inc dmg isn't bis and is just lucky

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but yes the CB is insane on it i guess

warped wren
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the TWWT doesn't exist either

stable shore
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sorry i'm really not trying to undermine it by any means, it's at least 30+ mirrors but 100 mirrors seems very very very exagerated

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like very

warped wren
stable shore
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yeah i agree the twwt is insane, but unless you tell me it's 50 mirrors it doesn't closes the gap

warped wren
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he's converting all his ele dmg to chaos, that is absolutely a BiS 2nd mod

stable shore
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no, he could get reduced effect of curse here and get better on a rare jewel

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for exemple

warped wren
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he doesn't need reduced effect of curse

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what rare jewel replaces a Balance of Terror

stable shore
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well he has one

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that's why i'm saying it could be better

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if he cuts it from here and get it on the balance, he gets a better mod here

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so the 5% isn't bis

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but don't get me wrong, it IS insane

warped wren
stable shore
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i just think inc damage probably doesn't make it more valuable than the CB

stable shore
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i just meant the inc dmg implicit isn't bis that's it

warped wren
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ah you're talking about the implicit

stable shore
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yes lmao

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i say the 5% dmg shouldn't be accounted for the price

warped wren
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I wasn't counting the inc damage mod tbh

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I was only looking at CB + those two mods

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it doesn't exist

stable shore
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well regardless 100 mirrors imo is just not it

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no offence but a 100 mirrors build wouldn't look like that

warped wren
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that shield doesn't exist either

stable shore
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stuff like having crafted mods on gear for exemple is a big part of why i think it could be beter

warped wren
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like, literally doesn't exist

stable shore
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the shield shouldn't be too hard to make yourself no ?

warped wren
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...

stable shore
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assuming currency deletation

warped wren
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I mean, Leo

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you could theoretically make everything + better

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if you had infinite time and currency

stable shore
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it's not infinite time, like there are obvious upgrades to get

warped wren
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of course

stable shore
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again i am not saying it is unimpressive

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his build is freaking insane

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and miles better than mine

warped wren
#

but my point is, this is a build that has reached a Delve depth literally unprecedented

stable shore
#

but i don't think it's insanely min maxed

warped wren
#

at about 6 weeks into league

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with gear that is... unreal, to put it mildly

stable shore
#

yeah it's very big

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but i'm not THAT impressed by the gear itsel

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it has crazy pieces

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but many are kinda whatever

twilit mountain
#

Leo I don't think you understand the state of the economy in league

stable shore
#

i do, anything that isn't core unique is crazy expensive

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right ?

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it's just that i've seen build who are min maxed to the point of having 2 BIS synth implicit on every rare jewels

twilit mountain
#

Worse than that. A good TWWT will go for like 20div or higher. A really good one like that will sell for multiple mirrors.

warped wren
#

sometimes great 1-mod

twilit mountain
#

Exactly

stable shore
#

i see, but what range

warped wren
#

3mod you're looking at a couple hundred +

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4mod... forget about it

stable shore
#

like, this jewel aside i'd roughly say the rest is in the 20-30 mirrors area

warped wren
#

I am actually gonna try to price his POB in a while

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because I am also curious

stable shore
#

good idea

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make sure to price the eldritch item by crafting cost

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and not selling price

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cuz they are really not hard to make

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i'd probably just count 1 mirror for all of them for short ngl

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actually, don't we know how much the TWWT cost ?

warped wren
#

ok he's the owner of that weapon

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so idfk how to even price that lmfao

twilit mountain
#

Crafting in league is also much pricier than usual btw.

stable shore
#

(not from HIS weapon of course)

warped wren
#

what I have been told is that mirror tier synth gear is ~15-20 mirrors to make

stable shore
#

sounds about right

warped wren
stable shore
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no i meant excluding his weapon

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like if he was forced to make it himself and none were available for service, then you can count the crafting cost

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but those items in this context are hard to judge

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because they are extremely expensive to make

#

but technicaly cheap on service

warped wren
#

yeah I'll try to find similar-ish stuff on TFT

stable shore
#

like, technicaly if one is available on service, he still did put 20 mirrors in his but he didn't have to

stable shore
#

but he could always have made it before tft does

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oh well i'll wait that you price check the thing

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rip i wasn't able to find a training party for p10s in ff14 tonight

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youtube be like

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"what did you think of the song you listened to several times every day this week ?"
very usefull survey

warped wren
#

so his helm literally does not exist anywhere

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neither on trade, nor on TFT

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nothing even close

stable shore
#

his helm is insane to be fair

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even with locks this is still giga hard to make

copper pawn
#

I hate synthesis item, making me look like peasant in any sense

warped wren
#

oh wait I found his weapon

stable shore
#

before they add synth beast

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tbh people were saying locks completely revolutionized crafting but synth beast had more impact for any synth items

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without it, all those gg base simply would not exist

warped wren
#

honestly synth crafting needs a serious overhaul

stable shore
#

i agree

warped wren
#

and not be locked behind like, a 100 people

stable shore
#

i don't like it being gated beind this beast

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the memory itself is very rare too

copper pawn
#

yeah, should be more accessible, not monopolized by a certain group of people making tons of mirrors out of it

stable shore
#

hot take but they should delete synthesis

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and add it as a new eldritch influence

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for weapons and jewellry

copper pawn
stable shore
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nah the mods are cool so they must stay somehow

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imo "i can't use them so nobody can" isn't a good reasoning to want synth gone

copper pawn
#

as in, I don't dislike synthesis mods, I dislike how it's impossible for a commoner like me to get my hand on it

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compared to that, t7 in LE is heaven

stable shore
#

to be fair i absolutely never had a BIS t7 item in last epoch lmao

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gg t7 are imo harder to get your hand on than gg synth items

copper pawn
#

btw I still find it hard to imagine myself playing arpg with wasd movement, does that mean all skills are on mouse buttons?

stable shore
#

hum i guess so ?

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i think it's gonna be a very niche way to play

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clearly it's not made for many archetype

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but some builds really don't need more than left and right click to be played

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it will mostly be a bow/wander thing

copper pawn
#

will test it out in a few days

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and see if I can adapt

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btw does numlock trick work with poe?

warped wren
#

so you still get to see the occasional god tier item a couple times per league

stable shore
#

This is a solution i can get behind

warped wren
#

but cucks like Belton and his ilk don't get to jack off in Menagerie to print mirrors all day

stable shore
#

I think it's ridiculous how easy those base are to get anyway

warped wren
#

or make it impossible to imprint synth items

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either works

stable shore
#

Like, those bow base used to be 1 ever 10 years

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Now they are printed daily

twilit mountain
stable shore
#

I prefer those base being abusrdly rare similary to what it used to be because it make them more exciting

warped wren
#

ok I'm at about 12 mirrors in trying to craft his gloves

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it still isn't working

twilit mountain
#

Synth beasts are bullshit.

stable shore
#

Yep, eldritch is the way to go

warped wren
#

I'm just gonna eyeball it at 20

copper pawn
stable shore
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Make it cost 100d to get a max charge if needed, it's still better than currently

stable shore
#

People who make that kind of money used to be shit at the game too

warped wren
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about 60d

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Ancestor I made about ~250

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and this league, well.

#

next league I will self farm a mirror in what will hopefully be a non MF scenario

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what I've learnt is that it's really not hard. It can be a bit time consuming and grindy but that's literally it

stable shore
#

Turns out anyone can be rich if they learn how to do it

copper pawn
#

next league I'm thinking ssf, else I will have no chance to ever play ssf in poe

twilit mountain
#

I could be rich if I relegated myself to playing shit I don't like monkaLaugh

warped wren
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btw Leo, the way to craft his gloves is spam essence on a frac temple base till you hit t1 suppress

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then lock suffixes and pour money into crafting prefixes

twilit mountain
#

Unfortunately my favorite mechanic in the game is a "rich get richer" mechanic

stable shore
#

Can you screenshot the gloves plz ?

warped wren
#

veiled chaos to try and unveil lightning convert, lock suffix again, add/remove life, ad nauseam till you hit t1 life

stable shore
#

How is it 20 mirrors

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Did i miss an info

warped wren
twilit mountain
#

I mean. Expensive base.

stable shore
#

I see

twilit mountain
#
  • an unlikely craft
stable shore
#

I'll do the craft myself tomorrow since i'm doubtfull about it

warped wren
#

essence rolling it for t1 supp is 1 div per 7 tries

stable shore
#

I'm in my bed rn so can't check

warped wren
#

my simulation hit it in 17 but pretty sure that's lucky

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after that it's all metamod costs

stable shore
#

I doubt you go to 20 mirrors with meramod, it seems too much

warped wren
#

because you can't reliably guarantee lightning convert unveil

copper pawn
#

@warped wren you get your mirrors by pure drops or consistent farming?

warped wren
stable shore
#

My amulet only cost me 4k ex of slam to get the prefix done max

warped wren
#

and that's just ONE prefix, you still need to land t1 life AND an empty prefix

stable shore
#

Yeah my amulet was 2 prefix

stable shore
#

That's why i'm surprised

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I will check it out since i'm curious

warped wren
#

I suppose you could get giga lucky and veiled chaos into a t1 life + the right unveil

stable shore
#

T1 life isn't giga hard, it shouldn't be so hard to reach

copper pawn
#

what are some ssf friendly builds beside srs?

stable shore
#

Unless those weeks of playing dressup with my femboy catboy fried my brain, i still don't see how it climbs to 20 mirrors

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OH WAIT

twilit mountain
stable shore
#

I am wrong since earlier

#

I forgot one details

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Mirror is litteraly 1/7 of its usual price

warped wren
#

1/7?

twilit mountain
#

Blossoms sextupled in price?

stable shore
#

So 20 mirrors doesn't actually mean shit

#

I see now, it's not the price i'm used to

twilit mountain
stable shore
#

Wait, i thought it was cheaper

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So i am wrong on being wrong

twilit mountain
#

Dude this is the most expensive a mirror has ever been, no?

copper pawn
#

most expensive mirror ever

warped wren
#

a mirror is vacillating between 850-900

stable shore
#

Hum funny, how did i get the reverse info

warped wren
#

mornings is about 860ish, nights is closer to 900

copper pawn
#

was 650 last week when I started playing d3 s30

stable shore
#

Well then i stand on my point, 20 mirrors seems exagerated for the gloves so i must verify tomorrow

warped wren
#

also add/remove life is 3div per blossom + 2 divs of purple juice per try

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  • ~1.5div per metamod beast
stable shore
#

Life is like 1/15 to get

warped wren
#

and another 1/2 that your add/remove hits the crafted mod and not the convert

stable shore
#

You have annul too

warped wren
#

same 1/2 problem

stable shore
#

Maybe i'm severaly limited tonight but i completely fail to see how this part is expensive

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This kind of craft is what i used to do on a daily basis

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And standard actually have the exact same price as league has atm

warped wren
#

I'm gonna just restart it and finish making it and export you the CoE

stable shore
#

For crafting mat

#

I'll try myself tomorrow regardless, i must experience it for myself now

#

I must sleep now since i gotta study tomorrow

#

I lost time trying to find a party in ff14

warped wren
#

I'm at about 5 mirrors in and I just landed t6 life

#

and this thing is severely underpricing the essences and the harvest crafting

#

Christ even simulating this is fucking painful

copper pawn
#

@warped wren what's your main farming now? wisp or legion or others?

warped wren
#

this guy had some real fucking patience

warped wren
warped wren
#

amazing

#

this is getting slightly absurd now

#

that's 14 mirrors btw

#

okay I actually give up

#

just import saved item in Emulator

#

I reached about 20 mirrors and just gave up

#

WAIT IGNORE

#

I'M A FUCKING JACKASS

#

never mind, the gloves are ~400d including the base and implicits

copper pawn
#

hmm should I play ssf from now till end of league, suddenly hate trading

warped wren
#

but yeah @stable shore I think you are right, it's not 100 mirrors. It is surely 20+ just off the jewels and mirror fees for some gear alone, but not 100

#

man I'm such a clown

#

oh well, at least I learnt

copper pawn
#

I assume in ssf you really need to farm lots of essence right?

stable shore
#

Don't worry it happens

warped wren
#

yeah I was just being an idiot

#

thank fuck I didn't have to actually craft these else I'd have bankrupted myself wheeze

stable shore
#

Hey, it could be worse, instead of being an idiot sometime you could be an idiot all the time like me !

warped wren
#

born to xd, instead I xdd

stable shore
#

It do be like that sometime

copper pawn
#

d4 s3: season of pet which is basically a double 4L item
no wonder the trailer got grinding gears, it all makes sense now

near hedge
#

wonder how much money theyre gonna rack in with all the hot new pet skins theyre gonna sell

copper pawn
#

of all maxroll guides, idk which one is really suitable for ssf, surely srs but I don't wanna play that again, any recommendation? is lightning arrow ssf friendly?

#

or corrupting fever

faint mauve
copper pawn
#

reading more into poe crafting makes me appreciate LE more and more

#

tbh

faint mauve
#

some people like simpler games, some ppl like more complicated ones

#

d3 and d4 exists for simple arpgs , LE is there to fill the void in between

#

i would not touch d3 and will not be touching d4 either

copper pawn
#

d4 not count, can't even say it has any crafting, even d3 has ways better crafting than d4

faint mauve
#

last i checked its still braindead to me

copper pawn
#

things I don't like about poe crafting is that some need t4 aisling, some need certain beast, some need delve, all are things I dislike doing
the thing I like about LE crafting is not necessarily because it's simpler, but more because any activity can drop any crafting mat, no gatekeeping

#

maybe except making legos

faint mauve
#

ruthless exists for the old school POE experience which has limited crafting

#

also means you gotta know when and how to use the currency

#

SSF you simply cannot afford to skip certain content because its no longer about marketboard op strats since you cant buy anything

copper pawn
#

I wish poe2 would remove things like beast, syndicate out of crafting, only focus on the things that can drop anywhere

faint mauve
#

again ruthless fixed all of that for me

copper pawn
#

sounds interesting, maybe ruthless ssf is the way for me
what's the big difference ruthless vs normal regarding crafting?

faint mauve
#

ruthless is more like old poe/d2's drop rate

#

except with all the unique tiers anything above t2 uniques are very hard to find

#

you can still be "rich" and hold like 10 exalts/divines/eternal orbs

#

but when you choose to use the currency it has to be used smartly

#

cause you cant just easily refarm them

#

theres no aisling slam, no benchcraft, no this or that

#

you still need to know what you are doing on the master missions

copper pawn
#

no benchcraft? that's a bit too hardcore

faint mauve
#

its about making drops on the ground matter

#

benchcraft is not required

#

take away the powercreep from benchcraft/that major minor god thing/etc then its just you and your build/gear

#

its meant to be hardcore but casuals still can find fun in ruthless since any progression you make will take some degree of skill and knowledge

#

its not gonna be an easier experience compared to standard poe , but you also cannot juice that much so your power level is somewhat adjusted a little

#

and every little mistake in your atlas strategy you will be punished heavily

warped wren
#

you could go CF Glad initially and then change ascendancy once you find the gloves

#

phys dot has high enough damage to carry you hard initially quite easily

sly wing
#

of course, caustic arrow won't work like that next league

#

SRS is very doable in SSF but minions are not for me

turbid trail
#

I would suggest some pathfinder poison build, like penance brand or CA/SA

sly wing
#

Yup, I did Caustic Arrow pathfinder this league, it'squite easy

copper pawn
#

if I'm not wrong, penance brand is just broken for every div invested compared to other builds

turbid trail
#

Penance clear is dogshit without source of explo tbh

copper pawn
#

is it that bad? I saw youtube clips they clear maps just fine

turbid trail
#

Depends on your standards

copper pawn
#

man, I hate crafting involving t4 aisling

copper pawn
sly wing
#

I respecced my SRS to Penance, the clear isn't fast but I'm not zooming through maps ever anyways. I don't know if the patch did something to clear, some people were complaining it's even worse now. I haven't played much lately

copper pawn
#

wonder if bama is ssf friendly

turbid trail
#

You need gem

#

But besides that its insane even with no gear

#

Check goratha channel

#

Im also starting ssf journey today, will throw a bunch of green gems into lab and let that decide my build

sly wing
#

I've played only ssf for the last two or three leagues, I just don't want to spend too much of my limited playing time in hideout

#

though LE seems a lot more rewarding for the time spent

#

Grim Dawn didn't really work for me with the almost nonexistent crafting

turbid trail
#

I play private leagues, not big fan of trade league

sly wing
#

yeah, that could be a bit better

#

ssf is a bit of a struggle at times but it feels quite rewarding when you figure out some new stuff and find the next good item

turbid trail
#

On ssf items matter, they are more that their value in currency

junior oyster
#

And then there is stuff like transmuting an item of the same set to another item of that set

copper pawn
junior oyster
#

Oh and ofc I love the fact that an arpg has sets (no idea why no sets in d4)

copper pawn
junior oyster
#

Yet D2 set itemisation is decent.

#

Also iirc they will add in sets at some point

#

Again an incomplete game that was released but hey I'm the bigger fool because I bought the game 749017597210525828

copper pawn
#

as long as you have fun with the game, it's worth the money

junior oyster
#

It's like wolcen to me right now

#

But maybe in 2-3 years time I might enjoy it

copper pawn
#

1st checkpoint is s4 with itemization rework

#

I guess that will be make or break for the game

real sable
warped wren
#

The PF version is really expensive, though nearly immortal

#

Frankly I hate doing poison builds late league

#

Like, if I'm pouring a few hundred divs into a build I'd expect it to melt Ubers, not stand around waiting for it to ramp to dot cap

turbid trail
#

Good poison builds melt ubers in like 3-4s

mossy thorn
#

Yeah Ubers have a bunch of damage reduction, so if you think you're dot capped and having to wait forever for ramp you probably just need to check more boxes in the enemy config section on PoB

copper pawn
warped wren
#

Like I had killed 3 Ubers on Poison SRS in Sanctum but idk

#

It's like, if you have the currency to make a late league high investment build, why cap yourself at 35m

turbid trail
#

I agree but you can make good endgame poison build

#

And since you are capped at 35m you can invest a lot into defense

turbid trail
#

Now I like how my pathfinder looks

#

Those celestial dragons are also great

warped wren
warped wren
#

30 Formed rotas got me like 45d in essences + deli orbs, 42d in writs, 21d in shaper sets, and some clusters that'll sell for whatever extra

#

Pretty pogg

shadow sundial
#

one map worth

simple needle
#

Damn belts

shadow sundial
#

left them in the boss room as an offering to rngeezus for the 60div he gave me

simple needle
#

Any mageblood hh

shadow sundial
#

no, but i got my first mirror ever yesterday

simple needle
#

So all these is like 200 c

#

Seems like everyone and their mom getting mirror this league

twilit mountain
#

So ready for next league to feel like shit ICANT

copper pawn
#

if next league shit, always have LE to go back to

twilit mountain
copper pawn
#

it's true irl also, moving from poor to rich is easy to adjust, the opposite is not

twilit mountain
#

I've gone from dirt poor to "not struggling to even have food in the house" and I'm still struggling to adjust monakS

copper pawn
#

I have another case: moving from the current trade league to ssf, it's such a pain

#

the mentality imbalance

twilit mountain
#

A friend of mine farmed out the entire MF Chief build in SSF so she could take advantage of wisping KEKL

#

She isn't even a trade player unless it's some meme build with hyper specific build requirements

copper pawn
#

next league I'll definitely play ssf from the start to avoid this imbalance in my mind

#

so I'm playing lightning arrow ssf atm and it feels like shit tbh, just don't like the way it's so squishy

#

maybe I should move to DD, heard it's equally easy to play ssf compared to srs

twilit mountain
#

DD is a common HCSSF build that can easily go to bosses on shit gear. It's just super unfun.

copper pawn
#

yeah I do heard some problem about its playstyle and why a lot of people don't like

warped wren
#

I'm just at the point where I'm doing challenges

#

First league where I'm actively doing them

#

Might do some Uber farming later if I really feel up for it, with the writs and shaper sets I have

copper pawn
#

hmm maybe I have to stick with lightning arrow with zero chance to convert to TS coz impossible to farm omni

real sable
warped wren
#

ah so I see

#

I thought it was Pr3vie's Poison BAMA PF

#

my bad

#

that said this is still expensive vs Necro, PF being PF

real sable
#

I reckon the prices will be closer than you think since most of the power comes from the jewels

#

for PF you can just not run progen and still be fine

#

run a regular lightning coil

#

hell, run a widowhail and some juicy rog quiver

#

bama don't care

copper pawn
#

but I'm not qualified to judge if it's ssf viable

warped wren
warped wren
copper pawn
#

idk, its map clear at high juice looks ways better than my bama, and the tankiness is also 10x better

warped wren
#

what are you talking about

#

his clear is ass

#

because his marionettes explode in a small aoe around him

#

also I have no idea where your opinion on BAMA clear and tankiness is coming from, because I've done 4 ubers + wave 30 simu deathless on it

copper pawn
#

Coming from myself playing bama? Got a 10k wisp map once and I lost all 6 portals within 2min
But of course my bama is only half a mirror worth, so it's not as tanky as your bama worth tens of mirrors

shadow sundial
#

i really enjoy these currency dupe altars

warped wren
#

frankly the TWWT is underpriced because it's literally one of a kind but whatever

copper pawn
#

But it's also noted that below 6k wisp, bama is very speedy indeed

twilit mountain
warped wren
#

there's been a lot of yap-yap about it either way

#

including some misinformation videos

#

which Snap is addressing here

twilit mountain
#

Ah, alright.

warped wren
#

like, the specific video he lost his cool at used a statement from Chris Wilson back in Kalandra launch, without including the specific reversal of said statement the very next league

copper pawn
#

Is defiance of destiny an easy drop?

warped wren
#

it's okay I guess. I dropped a few MFing. It's not t0, I think it might be t1

copper pawn
#

T1 still sounds pretty rare in ssf though

twilit mountain
#

Yeah, it's a T1

real sable
#

just so you know, I was doing t10s with a 5L quill rain

#

at 85, in leveling uniques

#

no jewels

#

underleveled gems

#

bama is very strong on its own

warped wren
#

That it is, quite a good tgem

real sable
#

lots of really nice gems this league, shame half of them are gonna get nerfed because they're fun

warped wren
#

The only guaranteed nerf is Penis Brand

#

And for good reason

#

Nuke that shit lol

maiden widget
#

i just wish they didnt teaser "ele hit" bama just to change it to this awful "prism" version

copper pawn
#

prism?

maiden widget
#

The Elemental Hit used by your clones does not cause an area of effect when hitting enemies affected by ailments, and has only 20% chance to cause Ignite, Freeze, and Shock. It uses the alternating element logic of Elemental Hit and can only deal damage of the chosen element

#

so you dont get aoe, you dont get base dmg, and it does only deal dmg of one element

copper pawn
#

sounds like the other transfigured BA, both suck

maiden widget
#

yup

desert jasper
#

Tbh I did kinda want to make a build around that
Buuut... yeaa

maiden widget
#

wanted it too until i noticed its nothing like ele hit

daring shore
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kazuya literally announces cell games

rugged island
#

palworld

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tomorrow

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👀

solar tiger
#

I forget

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How mmo is it

waxen sonnet
#

"pal world is not a scam" -quote from palworld

rugged island
#

its dedicated servers up to 32 people

#

so its more like a minecraft or valheim

placid yarrow
#

Guys I started playing remnant 2, pretty impressed with the bosses tbh

#

Games pretty dope

simple needle
warped wren
#

even as someone who's not a soulslike fan nor a huge shooter gamer

#

it's just really good regardless

placid yarrow
#

Yeah I haven't really played any of the souls games

#

But I'm enjoying it so far

#

A friend told me my bosses are pretty damn unlucky which makes sense considering it took like 2 hours of trying on one to beat it and literally 5 minutes later they slap me with an even crazier boss lol

#

Decided to call it a night and try to beat the second one tomorrow

stable shore
#

average ff14 miqo'te username

faint mauve
#

lol

#

i logged onto ffxiv to enter my house turns out i was 2 days away from demolition

#

didnt check my email lol

stable shore
#

your house can actually get demolished ?

faint mauve
#

yeah if its unoccupied for over a month i forgot the exact date

#

honestly i wouldnt bother because its just gonna chain you into subbing for your house

#

if i lose my house then its /quit ffxiv haha

stable shore
#

maybe i'll get a house at some point

#

i really have no use of my gils at all

#

it's the least gold demanding game i ever played

faint mauve
#

just remember that your gonna be a slave to subbing

stable shore
#

it's ok i'm already a slave to the game

faint mauve
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i dont mind since its not alot of money for me

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and i LOVE my house

stable shore
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i don't mind living in the streets for now lmao

faint mauve
stable shore
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on a side note people really fuckign suck in partyfinder

faint mauve
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you can even create a 2nd floor on your apartment iirc with some creativity

stable shore
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p10s is the easiest boss, i can't believe i find people who dies on the first mechanic

stable shore
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i rather chill at limsa

faint mauve
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i always chill in my house

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with my jukebox etc

stable shore
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you got the new mandeerville relic ?

faint mauve
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when doing stuff like crafting etc

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wdym ? i upgraded it 3 times now

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not sure if another new one has came through since the POE league started

stable shore
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well that's why i'm asking

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there is a new one since tuesday

faint mauve
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nah dont have it

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im still playing POE lol

stable shore
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it's completely beating the p12s weapon

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it has 90 more stat (accounting for no materias)

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and you can still choose what you want on it

faint mauve
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yeah not surprised, the game benefits players who play less also

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just that the relic grind is usually really long but endwalker they just made it purchasable with 1500 tomes

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i dont mind since for once its not a huge grind

stable shore
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yeah it was freaking easy to get

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gear is getting there

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i've been unlucky with p9s jewellry sadly

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i found a static of giga god gamer for ultimates and p12s

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we need one more person and we'll be ready

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while waiting we do criterion dungeons which ngl are way harder than any savage boss of this tier

faint mauve
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ill return to ffxiv at some point but i think ill be busy with POE / and want to be there for LE launch

stable shore
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maybe not harder than p12s ? didn't try or look at the strategy, we go blind

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hum fair, i got a spike of interest for poe recently

faint mauve
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ive started my push to lvl 96

waxen sonnet
stable shore
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you got pinged ?

waxen sonnet
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Yup

stable shore
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how

waxen sonnet
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Idfk

stable shore
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discord black magic

stable shore
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1 death = few days of grind lost

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did anyone go past 97 yet in 1 league ?

faint mauve
faint mauve
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ive done all challenges but want to shift my goal posts to uber eater

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will retire my build after this and go back to the drawing board ssf next league

copper pawn
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I forgot to ask a key question ever since I started playing poe: how does rr stack in poe?

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say I have 30% fire pen and -30% ele from a curse and -15% from exposure, does it mean I shred 75% enemy fire res?

simple needle
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palworld is on gamepass pog

rugged island
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already?!

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supposed to be 4 more hours

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its already #3 most wishlisted game on steam lol

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nope not there yet. 4 more hours

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labor camp soon

warped wren
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Palworld is that pokemon shooter or something right

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or am I confused

rugged island
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pokemon shooter base builder survival coop game ya

warped wren
rugged island
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what a time to be alive

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too late to explore the world

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too early to explore the galaxy

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just in time for pokemon with guns

simple needle
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imma put all the humans in the ball too

rugged island
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you playing on steam kapp?

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im locating a dedicated server rn

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afaik gamespass wont have dedicated right at launch

simple needle
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I'm playing solo

copper pawn
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this game looks so kute

simple needle
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I find it funny that Palworld is kinda better than Pokemon: Arceus?