📚┃off-topic

[stable shore]

but that's in character for atisse

bro is just too kind

wich i guess is not obvious yet

but see it as a set up for it

ACTUALLY

[placid yarrow]

i mean how is he not dead yet if he does that so often idk

[stable shore]

there is a logical reason

[placid yarrow]

should be broke af and dead

[stable shore]

no no it's logical

i remembered

basically atisse felt guilty for bringing hanbin with him and getting him in danger

so since he thinks it's his fault, he doesn't want hanbin to get injured

[placid yarrow]

idk man, that's still so extreme

[stable shore]

no that make sense imo

[placid yarrow]

idk not to me

[lethal bane]

Read Moby Dick

[placid yarrow]

that's too damn loyal to someone you just met

even if he fucked over hanbin a little

oh well kinda

[stable shore]

from atisse perspective he asked help to a guy for his quest, and he got him in a fight with sommeone he thinks stronger

[placid yarrow]

you don't risk your life because of that xd

[stable shore]

he really screwed up hanbin lmao

[placid yarrow]

i mean sure

but like

idk

[stable shore]

that would have been weirder for atisse to let him die

it's his fault, he fucked up

so he assume consequences

[placid yarrow]

yeah but like

just let hanbin die

[stable shore]

that would have been even weirder ngl

[placid yarrow]

like not abandon his ass

[stable shore]

like, atisse fleeing like that in this context would have ruined the character forever

[placid yarrow]

but also not shield him with your life

it should've been every man for themselves

[stable shore]

and what, just stand there and wait for him to die so you can go ?

that's abandonning him too

[placid yarrow]

fuck em

they just met eachother

you fucked him over

oh well

put flowers on his grave

[stable shore]

atisse is still responsible

for bringing him here

[placid yarrow]

shit happens while adventuring

[stable shore]

if you add to that he is overly kind

[placid yarrow]

i mean maybe

[stable shore]

there is no way he would have done anything else

[placid yarrow]

it just didn't reflect that for me since we had like no background on atisse at that point

that's my main issue

we needed a chapter of atisse background

[stable shore]

that's actually character developpement he will have later, learning to say "fuck them" to people sometime

[placid yarrow]

like why is he so kind

and stuff like that

[stable shore]

he is just built like that

there is no reason

and there was nothing to show in flashback for that

[placid yarrow]

idk i don't like that

i would've liked for therer to be something, anything

that explains it

[stable shore]

beside i don't wanna spoil too much but atisse origins are left a bit blured for plot reason later

needed for an arc

[placid yarrow]

like even just his parents going "boy you better help those in need" when he was small or some bs like that lol

[stable shore]

hum

[placid yarrow]

yeah fair

[stable shore]

well

[placid yarrow]

i just need to read more

[stable shore]

yeah do that

[placid yarrow]

maybe it'll bring it together

[stable shore]

like, i understand your point

but trust me a flashback wasn't possible here

[placid yarrow]

you're basically saying once you've read up to a point it'll all be clear and make sense

[stable shore]

there is actually never any moment in his life that made him this lind

he is born like that

that's it

[placid yarrow]

kinda wish there was something though

like some plot point of something

[stable shore]

i think it's better that way imo

[placid yarrow]

maybe

[stable shore]

i don't want him to be special

[placid yarrow]

idk i'll see

that's anathor thing

everyone feels special af lol

but that's for later

[stable shore]

imo i think it's refreshing the main characters aren't bound by fate

or goals

you don't see that often

[placid yarrow]

the only normal people are the first party hanbin is with

everyone else has over the top characteristics and stuff, it's kinda like the stars aligned kinda situation

i guess we did have some timeskipping

but i would've liked to see some of the inbetween stuff

like his work with the gang

it lasted like half a chapter

and then it just skips to atisse going come with me and him being like ok and then they go

and then the boss was like they grow up so quick and i'm here like wtf you met him last chapter

[stable shore]

when you think about it it's like irl

you don't meet people because you share goals and it makes sense nescesseraly

you just meet sommeone you find fun on a first approach and stick with that person

[stable shore]

sometime you just don't need more

imo that's realistic

that's how you make friends irl litteraly

also this manwha doesn't say much in explanation often

by that i meant you don't have 1000 lines of text to explain you how to feel or understand

most of it you understand on the go with character emotion, behaviour etc

that allows for good pacing too

[copper pawn]

Hmm how am I supposed to make str = int? Now I know where such items in LE come from lol

[warped wren]

WHAT THE IGH34GT3489[GTF3WGHF

[waxen sonnet]

SLAAAAAAMMMMM

[warped wren]

I wish I had been recording my game since yesterday

first I hit a 40+d triple crit + life jewel, then found mirror, then found HH

[copper pawn]

Eff you, give me your luck

I'm still working hard toward that 60+ div bow

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

sadeg, you just ran out of rng for poe 2

you're not even gonna find a div

[warped wren]

I will live happy after experiencing this weekend in PoE

[warped wren]

ironically, I was running these maps saving for HH

kekw

[dusk valley]

hooohhhh trying torchlight infinite and the engrish is brutal

[copper pawn]

Thank you ritual shop

[copper pawn]

what's this bullshit? this vendor recipe doesn't work anymore?

[vagrant topaz]

They ve changed it when they changed the quality

It's been like this since the beginning of 3.23

[twilit mountain]

It works for supports, not actives

Just go run uber lab like, twice

[copper pawn]

I think buy 20% gem faster 😅

[eternal sky]

Go run a uber uber lab

[copper pawn]

and level up naturally again

[eternal sky]

Make ez muns

[twilit mountain]

Probably, I just don't like spending money on stuff I don't need to

[eternal sky]

Most 1 20s are like 3c

Anyways

[twilit mountain]

Yeah but lmao level 1

[eternal sky]

Doesnt matter

[twilit mountain]

I'll just go run uber lab twice, it's faster than buying a gem and releveling it

[copper pawn]

time is money also, like, the same time you run uber lab, you can run a juice map and get 5 times the value of 20 gemcutter

[eternal sky]

U dented?

[twilit mountain]

Oh cool, we dropped to insults immediately.

[eternal sky]

Gonna cry perhaps

Piss ur pants

Like what?

Did i just kick ur dog?

If you react that way towards dented i fear for your attitude irl bro

[sand wigeon]

IDK I feel like it's a dependent thing. I'd always rather spend the money to get a 20% quality gem at level 1 then a level 20 gem at 0% quality, 'cause I'm going to be playing the game anyways- but, if your money making capabilities are on the higher end I can see that case changing

[copper pawn]

20 gemcutter is 50c, so if you can earn more than 50c per map, best is to just either buy the 20 gemcutter or 20/20 gem, depending on which one cheaper

[sand wigeon]

(I also haven't played this league so my experience is a little off)

[eternal sky]

Yea i normally just buy all the 1/20s for a char im leveling

That need the qual on skills

[sand wigeon]

what are these NAMES

[eternal sky]

Some of the best

Truly

[sand wigeon]

you couldn't torture these out of me

[eternal sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/436237451246305290/1165652703360323745/image.png?ex=65a3eaad&is=659175ad&hm=e66c1ff30493c73689974ecc76db05f583df3c6ffbec1c607e4a2dfe03db5e01&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

one of my names from last leauge

[sand wigeon]

[eternal sky]

was a trap build

makes total sense okay

[stable shore]

I approve that name

[sand wigeon]

mm-hmm

[stable shore]

Good choice

[sand wigeon]

of course you would, leo

[stable shore]

Well, it's a trap build after all, right ?

[sand wigeon]

my commentary will remain at: thigh highs are so damn annoying

[stable shore]

I like them, keeps my legs warm

Also it's comfier than jeans

[sand wigeon]

they can't keep my legs warm because they roll in on themselves

they are impossible to wear with the wrong build

[stable shore]

Oh. They do roll a bit with me too

But nothing too bad

[sand wigeon]

and you have the build they're literally made for!

it's awful

[stable shore]

Worst case scenario they can't roll past my knees

[sand wigeon]

sure, but even a tiny bit of rolling kinda ruins the look

stockings are better in that regard at least

(though i also don't like wearing skirts and such so i do have limited experience)

[stable shore]

I agree

But maybe it's down to the quality of them ?

[sand wigeon]

perhaps

mine aren't too high quality 'cause, well, i never wear them

blame living in a cold environment and preferring clothes that allow for mobility and a more rugged environment

[stable shore]

I should try better ones, but it's kinda hard to find for my size. I need like 60+ cm tall ones, and vast majority are 50cm sadly

[twilit mountain]

Can't wear skirts outside because it's too fucking cold

[sand wigeon]

you could get some custom made? though that'd be expensive and likely outta your price range

[sand wigeon]

you can in summer dw

for like, two weeks

[eternal sky]

this summer in canada ontario was

really shit

[stable shore]

Hum i'll look into that option

[sand wigeon]

oh hey i live a few hours from there

[eternal sky]

had like 2 weeks of actual hot weather

the rest was mainly just rain

this winter is scuffed too

literally just been fall throughout december so far

[sand wigeon]

18h from there by car

i could literally walk to ontario illegally if given preparation

[stable shore]

Winter is hell for hands imo

Sometime i legit can't move my fingers if it's too cold outside after i come back home

[twilit mountain]

As a Raynaud's haver, I understand.

[sand wigeon]

weirdly i've always liked the feeling of the biting chill on my hands but maybe i just got stockholmed by winter

[stable shore]

Oh, and also ears suck

[sand wigeon]

i can agree there

i recommend headphones or my patent-pending favorite

a ushanka

[eternal sky]

luckily i grow out my hair during the cold months

soo it normally keeps the ears warm

[stable shore]

I have steel rings on the side of my rings and it genuinely hurts if too cold

[sand wigeon]

that don't do shit when the wind is too high for your hair to stay down

[sand wigeon]

oh gods

[eternal sky]

wind sucks

[sand wigeon]

genuinely get a warm winter hat like a ushanka

[eternal sky]

like i can handle cold

[sand wigeon]

something that covers your ears completely

[eternal sky]

but wind + cold actually just slices you

[twilit mountain]

So you have chosen death

[sand wigeon]

i like the feeling of a windy cold day but i can't stay out in it for obvious reasons

[stable shore]

Drip before life

[lethal bane]

Do what I do and become invincible

[sand wigeon]

okay academic

i hate academics

[lethal bane]

Dadbod >>>>>>

I am not an academkc

I have barely any education

[sand wigeon]

you're close enough

you're all the same

[lethal bane]

The dad with niche interests?

Cauae kinda yeah

[twilit mountain]

Isn't your fuckin dad an academic

[lethal bane]

You're not wrong

[stable shore]

imo best weather is morning cold post night rain

[sand wigeon]

and do i like him?

[sand wigeon]

agree!

[twilit mountain]

You keep going over to his house

[sand wigeon]

who are you to tell me that!!

[eternal sky]

💀

[twilit mountain]

The one who fucking went with you

[placid yarrow]

best weather is sunny but still cold enough for a sweater

[sand wigeon]

sorry that was someone else

[eternal sky]

Cold air warm sun

[placid yarrow]

gav gets it

[eternal sky]

Do be nice nappin weather

[stable shore]

I can't with people who ask for sun all the time, and when sun arrives they are stuck at home because it's a billion degree outside

[twilit mountain]

Best weather is 95-100F where I can sit in the sun and fall asleep

[lethal bane]

Fuck off

[sand wigeon]

best weather is 40F, slightly rainy and foggy

[placid yarrow]

hey i'm always outside during the summer

[lethal bane]

Last time I moved it was 100f+ and it was brutal

[sand wigeon]

she's an actual fucking lizard

i've been thinking about getting her a heating lamo

[twilit mountain]

This is true

[sand wigeon]

unironically

[twilit mountain]

I am basically a lizard

[lethal bane]

I hauled everything almosy by myself cause my SO and kids were sick af

[sand wigeon]

because she likes to run a heater ALL DAY ALL NIGHT in my room

[lethal bane]

Lizard Deias

[sand wigeon]

and it's fucking BOILING

[placid yarrow]

100f is a bit warm but i'm down to nap in it

[eternal sky]

💀

[sand wigeon]

i literally get dehydrated because of it

[eternal sky]

Actual lizard person

[lethal bane]

I can't do the heat

[eternal sky]

Run

[placid yarrow]

we get both warm af and cold af here, it's kinda fucked up ngl

but both only last for a short duration

[eternal sky]

Yea here in canada we get it all

[placid yarrow]

and where i moved to now it's way less extreme

in stockholm it's pretty messed up but in gothenburg it's way nicer

if you go higher north it becomes a survival tv show

[stable shore]

Sun is horrible here because where i live it rains or it's cold 99% of the time, so i'm not used to high temperature. 35+ degree is enough to kill me

[placid yarrow]

as seen here ain't nobody want anything to do with the north except some maniacs on the east coast

[eternal sky]

I worked construction carpentry 1 summer

And holy shit

Is that brutal

[daring shore]

BOOOO scary numbers and simple mathematical calculations @sand wigeon are you scared ?

[placid yarrow]

lol

[sand wigeon]

what

[placid yarrow]

where do you live gav

[eternal sky]

Like i was more sweat and sawdust then human

Ontario canada

[daring shore]

wdym what dont you hate academics

doesnt math scare you

[placid yarrow]

oh yeah i bet it's pretty similar, i've heard from friends the kind of weather you guys get

[sand wigeon]

different type of academic

[daring shore]

for the sake of this joke it will be math

[placid yarrow]

stockholm sounded pretty similar to the weather my friend in alaska had

[lethal bane]

Its my smug demeanor and sour odor of books

[eternal sky]

Yea we get like +35 heatwaves for like a week straight

[placid yarrow]

which i assume is kinda similar to canadian weather too since they neighbour eachother

[stable shore]

Wouldn't academics be about morr than simple maths calculations ?

[daring shore]

that is the funny point

[eternal sky]

Ye we go from extreme hot in summer to extreme cold in winter

[sand wigeon]

i had a dream last night that my father was a secretly a dark mage and his studies remained in a hidden room in his home and when i woke up the first thing i thought was "it's weird that it was secret in my dream"

[daring shore]

you guys made me explain it now its not funny

i am leaving

[eternal sky]

Cold and piss inbetween fall n winter

[lethal bane]

I once worked building greenhouses on a farm during the hottest month of Oklahoma. That was sweaty

[placid yarrow]

my highest recorded was 49 degrees celsius in my room one summer, let's just say i did not sleep or even reside in that room for a couple weeks

it's a legit oven

[stable shore]

I don't get it so i'll just post a baseg emoji and call it a day :

[eternal sky]

[daring shore]

where do you guys get these emoji's from

do i need nitro or somethin

[eternal sky]

Nitro

Yessit

4.99

[placid yarrow]

a month?

[eternal sky]

[twilit mountain]

$2.99 a month

[placid yarrow]

aw hell naw

[stable shore]

10 bucks here

[placid yarrow]

i'd have a hard time paying 5 bucks for it permanently

[sand wigeon]

Gotta get nitro!

[daring shore]

its like 0.92 cents if you convert it

for me

that is like very cheap

[placid yarrow]

now we're talking

[stable shore]

I get to have a pink name, and bokisser in my banner profile. 10 bucks / months is very cheap

[daring shore]

basic should do the trick right

[sand wigeon]

yeah

[placid yarrow]

yo the bigger file size is actually nice

[sand wigeon]

you cans ee the benfits there

[placid yarrow]

i wouldn't have to upload to imgur or some bs

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

Can i join the server who has it ?

[sand wigeon]

it's not very useful because even if i clip a game the file STILL ends up too big lmao

[stable shore]

I legit dont have the emote atm

[placid yarrow]

wtf are you recording at 4k or something lol

[stable shore]

And i'm looking for it

[daring shore]

10 dollars for a whole year

hot damn

i am buyin that

[sand wigeon]

https://youtu.be/h9ieA1kJ9nE?si=5MAsXwKRpEgLxU9_

[placid yarrow]

dream out here recording 8k 144 fps fotage

[sand wigeon]

like i still had to upload this to yt

[twilit mountain]

I just pay for the basic cuz I like emotes

[sand wigeon]

100 dollars for a year of the "high end" nitro

[eternal sky]

Hmm

[sand wigeon]

or 10 a month, so 120 all year

depends on if you buy an entire year at once or not

[twilit mountain]

Otherwise how would I

[sand wigeon]

noT EVEN

2556x1440p 60fps

[placid yarrow]

That's still pretty beefy because of how fast resolution scales but yeah still rip

[eternal sky]

I dont even see the disco im in for the emote @stable shore

[placid yarrow]

Id just do 1080p 60 fps tbh

[sand wigeon]

i pay for nitro because i like my profile being colorful and themed....

(i'm a loser)

[sand wigeon]

well my monitor is 2556x1440p

[placid yarrow]

I mean if I could I would customize mine too

[placid yarrow]

Well yeah mine too but you can downscale automatically in obs

[stable shore]

I wish there was a tool to sort server per emojis they have. I need that emote and astolfopls

[placid yarrow]

But I mean you do you obviously

[sand wigeon]

sure but it won't be representative of what my screen actually looks like in that moment

[eternal sky]

[sand wigeon]

which is kinda important

[placid yarrow]

Yeah fair enough

[stable shore]

But a cool looking looser

[sand wigeon]

idk about that

i wear jeans and a ushanka with the same sweatshirt i've had since i was ten

none of it fits together

[placid yarrow]

Sounds pretty alpha tbh

[stable shore]

Sounds like a solid drip ngl

[sand wigeon]

no i look like a dork (unbiased opinion)

[stable shore]

I am not biased i am based

[sand wigeon]

@twilit mountain confirm that it looks a little dorky

[eternal sky]

Black polo ontop of black pants

[placid yarrow]

Deias confirm dream is absolutely dripping the fuck out

[eternal sky]

[twilit mountain]

It is both, somehow

[stable shore]

I want to erase polo from earth

Worse top possible imo

[eternal sky]

Im normally in shorts 95.5% of my life tho

[sand wigeon]

how is it BOTH

[placid yarrow]

Certified dork drip

[eternal sky]

If its like under -10

I can chill outside in a tshirt and shorts

[stable shore]

Crop top hoodie for the win

[placid yarrow]

I searches dork drip and the fourth result is borderline nsfw which to me is confirmation that it's certified drip

[sand wigeon]

sorry can't do that i'm chubby

[eternal sky]

200%

[sand wigeon]

[stable shore]

I have to make the grind worth it

[placid yarrow]

Hell yeah I was shoveling snow in shorts and a t-shirt yesterday

[copper pawn]

may I ask, the minions that use your weapon, do they enjoy the crit affixes too?

[sand wigeon]

hell yeah

i've been walking a lot more recently, it's been nice

[placid yarrow]

Surprised almost none of the devs came back on today, are they still on holiday?

[sand wigeon]

yeah

[placid yarrow]

Thought it ended on Sunday but maybe they have Monday off too

Would make sense tbh

[sand wigeon]

as far as we know they're still on holiday

[twilit mountain]

Til tomorrow afaik

[sand wigeon]

absolute dork

[eternal sky]

Dorked out

[placid yarrow]

Blue accents be dripping tbh

Just need some more of them

Make the gun blue somehow even though you can't

God damn it eft

[eternal sky]

Need some waifu stickers

[sand wigeon]

better?

[eternal sky]

Gotta show them who boss

[placid yarrow]

Now you're dripping

[sand wigeon]

frankly who cares about camo rn in game

'cause it's snowy rn

and everything is white

[stable shore]

I still don't know what dork mean

[placid yarrow]

It's like nerd but dork

[placid yarrow]

To me a dork is basically silly

[sand wigeon]

term 2 also applies here because the helmet i'm wearing is known coloquially as "the penis helmet"

[stable shore]

2nd definition raises even more questions

[eternal sky]

Amazin

[stable shore]

Fuck the third definition, how is a nerd the same ?

That's mean

[placid yarrow]

Lol I've never heard someone call a dick a dork

[eternal sky]

Dickdork

[sand wigeon]

absolutely dorking it

how about all green

[eternal sky]

Im slammin my dork over ere

[placid yarrow]

Nah all green is whack

No drip

[sand wigeon]

damn

[placid yarrow]

It's like wearing all black with black hair, and I do that shit so I would know

[stable shore]

Can be drippy with accessories though

[placid yarrow]

Gotta have something that pops

True

[sand wigeon]

sadly i have no alternate clothes

it's too early into the game's league

[placid yarrow]

But you'd need rings, necklace , maybe a wristband/watch to make that work

I'm not about that life

I'll wear a watch

[sand wigeon]

too expensive + low level

[stable shore]

A chocker too

[placid yarrow]

But if I have a necklace it'll be tucked in

[sand wigeon]

chocker

[twilit mountain]

chocker

[placid yarrow]

Idk about all that

[stable shore]

Did i spell it wrong ?

[placid yarrow]

I hate when stuff touches my throat

[sand wigeon]

choker

[stable shore]

Oh, thanks

[placid yarrow]

Shocker

[twilit mountain]

There's a joke here somewhere

[stable shore]

If it's inside it's ok

[sand wigeon]

this was my look last league

[eternal sky]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-gif-22066197

[sand wigeon]

though i'm kinda feeling this

irl i own zero accessories lmao

it's kinda funny just how little options i have

[stable shore]

Personally i just love earrings

[sand wigeon]

i don't think i'll ever get my ears pierced, 'cause i wouldn't wanna have to deal with keeping it clean initially or having it reseal later

but everyone else in my family has piercings lmao

[placid yarrow]

I've worn clamp earrings once when we were doing a class photoshoot

[stable shore]

Fair

[placid yarrow]

I was sexy af as a girl ngl

[sand wigeon]

sentence of the year

le'ts see if anyone else tops it

[copper pawn]

@eternal sky does minions that use my weapon enjoy this affix?

[sand wigeon]

they got a while to try

[twilit mountain]

Minions aren't you

[copper pawn]

I specify, minions that use my weapon

[twilit mountain]

I know

Minions still aren't you

[placid yarrow]

This would work no?

If the minion hasn't been dealt a crit

It'd have increased crit chance no?

[twilit mountain]

That's not on your weapon, that's generic increased critical strike chance. AFAIK minions aren't inheriting your stats, just the weapon stats

[stable shore]

Minions cucks issue smh

[placid yarrow]

He's saying the minion is using the weapon

Not him

[twilit mountain]

And that's not on the weapon

[placid yarrow]

Oh lul

Well yeah then it obviously wouldn't work mb

[twilit mountain]

Also why on earth would you want that affix on your minions anyway

[stable shore]

Would work if you weren't a filthy minion cucks though, you should consider it

[twilit mountain]

That would make them crit basically once per 4 seconds

[placid yarrow]

And true imagine playing minions

[stable shore]

Or, litteraly never if they crit once before those 4 seconds

[twilit mountain]

True

[copper pawn]

I was assuming if I don't deal the crit, my minions would enjoy the increased crit chance lul

[twilit mountain]

That's like... a miner/trapper affix only at this point

[stable shore]

This stat has to be one of the worst dmg stat of this game ngl

[eternal sky]

I think only the base stats

On ur bow and quiver

Effect ur bamas

[twilit mountain]

Traps and mines getting free crit for no fucking reason

[stable shore]

Oh ! Because they aren't you ?

[twilit mountain]

Yea

[eternal sky]

Yea

[stable shore]

You mean they get the crit regardless lmao

[twilit mountain]

Yup

[eternal sky]

Yea

[twilit mountain]

It's utter bullshit

[eternal sky]

And the pen too

And the flat

[stable shore]

THATS IT
IM DELETING TRAPS AND MINES FROM POE

[placid yarrow]

Traps, mines, minions, and dots (except for rf and death aura) go straight into the trash for me, I'm a melee enjoyer to the grave

[twilit mountain]

Traps and mines are unironically busted as fuck

[copper pawn]

also if my minions are doing the killing, I will not enjoy this right?

[eternal sky]

Too bad boot enchants are gone

Ye keik

[warped wren]

Unfortunate that GGG trolls melee hard

[placid yarrow]

Yup

[warped wren]

[eternal sky]

Ggg is normally very like

Strict in their wording

[stable shore]

No but you can if you use the unique gloves that make minions kills yours

[eternal sky]

When it comes to minions

[twilit mountain]

Gravebind

[eternal sky]

Normally saying it applys to minions

[placid yarrow]

I mean melee kinda sucks in every arpg compared to ranged, LE does a semi decent job but even here I feel like it had many if the same issues tbh

[eternal sky]

^

[copper pawn]

would use that if I don't use -19% lightning res gloves on my AG now

[eternal sky]

Melee in wow sucks too

[twilit mountain]

It's just the nature of the games imo

[eternal sky]

As ranged you get to ignore alot more mechanics

And just stand still

[stable shore]

ff14 melee is good

[placid yarrow]

Yeah I mean even in irl melee sucks compared to range

[stable shore]

Got more dmg to compensate

[placid yarrow]

You're taking a knife to a gun fight

[twilit mountain]

Spears were meta irl

[stable shore]

Bombs belt is melee

[warped wren]

Tentatively PoE2 might help melee a bit but let's see, not crossing any fingers

[eternal sky]

Spears are just a big arrow

Point forward

[placid yarrow]

Yeah because ranged barely existed outside of bows which were almost more meta

[warped wren]

Even now you can make melee work, either with skills that aren't really melee or with stupid tier investment

[placid yarrow]

You'd have a massive ass army of archers behind a smaller army of infantry usually

[stable shore]

As long as it's not worse ...

[eternal sky]

Tbh melee in poe currently isnt the worst

[stable shore]

This is all i ask

[eternal sky]

There is actually a decent chunk of options rn

But yknow

[warped wren]

If I don't burnout this league I might try RV of Berserking

[placid yarrow]

I always play melee in Poe, it's always been able to clear content which is all I really need from it

[eternal sky]

Tornado shot mf

Exists

💀

[warped wren]

[placid yarrow]

I've gotten into mana stacking recently and man it's pretty dope

You can obviously be ranged with it too but yea

[eternal sky]

Yea its op

[warped wren]

I'm glad I did Tshot this league, I 100% feel they might nerf it lmao

[placid yarrow]

Mana forged arrows goes bonkers but I'm a manabond kinda guy

There's the new mana rf too

[eternal sky]

Coc manabond mjo

Is op

[placid yarrow]

Yup

It's so good

Feels so smooth and strong

[eternal sky]

Mana rf is like normal rf

Doesnt justify the cost

For what the build does

[junior oyster]

Is it faster than flash?

[placid yarrow]

Yeah idk I haven't tried it, but a dude got it to dot cap pretty fast

[eternal sky]

Yea dot cap on rf

Is multiple mirrors

His jewels etc

Must surmount to alot alone

[warped wren]

This is the league for multi mirror builds, everything is through the roof

[placid yarrow]

Yeah but it's easier to get on mana rf apparently since he got it fairly quick , idk though I wasn't really following him too hard so he might've earned a shitload

But usually he isn't that rich that fast

[warped wren]

I crafted a rarity helm last night, turns out shit is worth 50d

[eternal sky]

Mf meta

[placid yarrow]

I skipped this league, wasn't feeling it

[eternal sky]

💀

[warped wren]

Absolutely garbonzo pair of cold convert gloves that sucked my soul to craft, 20d

[placid yarrow]

I got halfway through campaign and just dropped it

[warped wren]

Like, anything is happening

[junior oyster]

I had 2 MBs and HH drop in my map

[warped wren]

[twilit mountain]

[warped wren]

I have had 1 mirror then 1 HH

[placid yarrow]

Rax is that you

[warped wren]

[copper pawn]

took me quite a while to make str = int lol, this is much harder in poe than in LE

[warped wren]

Are you doing some Leadership's Price shenanigans?

Or Cyclopean Coil?

[copper pawn]

no, rational doctrine, needs str = int to get both ground effects

[twilit mountain]

[copper pawn]

[sand wigeon]

no mirror skill issue

[copper pawn]

juju additional curse is hell expensive lol

[twilit mountain]

Additional curse is a crazy good implicit, yeah

[copper pawn]

was trying to cheat by impossible escape jewel, turned out they have the same price

[eternal sky]

juju is such a sick neck too

[stable shore]

That's a lot of fusings

[twilit mountain]

420 of em

[warped wren]

Buy 60, corrupt yourself

[stable shore]

Also nice MB on the left

[warped wren]

That's what I did when I was broke for Hyrri's additional curse

[twilit mountain]

It wasn't

Never lucky

[stable shore]

Trash game sadeg

[twilit mountain]

Didn't get a mirror at midnight, confirmed Chris Wilson cursed my 2024

[stable shore]

Go to chris house and steal his mirrors for revenge

[eternal sky]

steal his lotus collections

[stable shore]

He has a lotus collection ?

[eternal sky]

of black ones yes

[stable shore]

That's omega baseg

[eternal sky]

man likes his MTG

[stable shore]

Oh, mtg

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

I thought you meant flowers

[eternal sky]

nah

[stable shore]

That's not omega baseg then

[eternal sky]

https://youtu.be/JugtZj2lRBc

thats his misprint collection

actually too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfIrPnwM6So

this is actually a good video

[stable shore]

God gamer ripped

[eternal sky]

of just questions about PoE

quinbozo69 down?

[stable shore]

Not his pf

His 12h strength stacker reroll

With brutus mace, iron heart, astramentis and redblade banner

[eternal sky]

💀

[stable shore]

Bro wasted once in a lifetime ssf build

[placid yarrow]

now this is gaming

[eternal sky]

PoV content

[stable shore]

https://tenor.com/view/mauzimice-mauzymice-mauzy-mice-boykisser-gif-1910459618975462944

i can polute your game now

brilliant idea

[placid yarrow]

damn

atleast it doesnt animate

while im ingame

[twilit mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720763953449271308/1089409124283981906/Sequence_01_1.gif

[stable shore]

oh well, it will work regardless

i know, i'll jumpscare you

[placid yarrow]

btw for how cool this area is and all these guys are kind of a massive let down lol

they're weak as shit and you giga rarely ever interact with the place

and no i didn't reduce my corruption

i just wanted to check it out

[stable shore]

apparently they are sorta dangerous ?

[placid yarrow]

i mean they did fuck all damage

[stable shore]

i never knew before gnash tells me, since dodge basically make them irrelevant

[placid yarrow]

and are squishy af

[stable shore]

but apparently they do huge dmg

at high c

or so i've been told

[placid yarrow]

this is at 1k idk

[stable shore]

since you are a spellblade, i'm starting to doubt his sayings

[placid yarrow]

those lightning orbs hit me

the others didnt really get a chance to

but the orbs did nothing lol

[stable shore]

yeah apparently it's that thing that hurts

[eternal sky]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/64f75580ba258c5dfd2dbd4d/4x.gif

[stable shore]

oh well to each their problems

for some it's those guys

for other it's rocks

[placid yarrow]

true 😭

[eternal sky]

tbh

arpgs be like

[placid yarrow]

idk i just feel like they should add more to them

[eternal sky]

randomly takes huge damage

majority of times

[placid yarrow]

such a waste of a cool area and boss

[eternal sky]

takes 0 dmg

[stable shore]

might as well just not have any boss ngl

[placid yarrow]

yea exactly

[stable shore]

kinda feel like they are only here as filler

[placid yarrow]

yup

they didn't just want to add a button to reduce c

so they added this

and honestly the arena itself looks sick imo

it's one of the newer ones they've designed ig

[stable shore]

lame, reducing your corruption is extremely cringe already

[placid yarrow]

which explains it

[stable shore]

no need to make it boring

doesn't the arena exists since years ?

like it's a copy paste of the mastery area no ?

of the old one at least

[placid yarrow]

nah

[stable shore]

i remember there was an area that looked exactly like this at 0.8.2

[placid yarrow]

it is in the end of time

[twilit mountain]

Nope

[placid yarrow]

but that's not what the mastery place looked like

[twilit mountain]

That's very different

[stable shore]

oh

[placid yarrow]

mastery place was like a stone / rock road kinda

[stable shore]

btw i genuinely think we unlock masteries too early

[placid yarrow]

this is more like floating platforms

[stable shore]

like when i rerolled sentinel it was really unexpected how fast it wasw

like bro i have been playing for 30 minutes

how can i unlock my mastery already

[placid yarrow]

meh you'd get people complaining about how you can't respec mastery otherwise

[stable shore]

well the further away it is, the more confident you are about your decision no ?

[placid yarrow]

like we still get them rofl

nah people are dumb

[waxen sonnet]

We still get them how it is now. Yeah

End of act 2 is way too late

[stable shore]

you could sorta let people access the first half of all tree

[twilit mountain]

I think it should be early because... who the fuck wants to invest more than 20 points into their base class

[stable shore]

then at least 60 or so you chose wich tree you want to fully unlock

[twilit mountain]

Nah

That's awful

[stable shore]

probably yes

[placid yarrow]

idk i think they should re-add the mastery area and have you be able to experiment with all three in there somehow

[stable shore]

i just think we unlock it way way way way way too early atm

it doesn't feel deserved at all

like there's a random old dude who tells you "oh btw here, you master your class now" when you are dogshit at the game with trash gear

ascendancies in poe are much better in that regard

[twilit mountain]

I disagree, I fucking hate the ascendancy system in PoE because of how long it takes

[stable shore]

i think it's good as a first time run

same as campaign

past the first time, yes it's shit

[twilit mountain]

Nah. It's the worst part of league start imo.

[placid yarrow]

i think it should be a bigger deal / spectacle

but i think having it be early is fine

just give it a boss fight or something

[stable shore]

it should be a bigger deal yes

that's probably more fitting to what i dislike with it

it just is so random

[placid yarrow]

like you gotta kill your inner demons to unlock your mastery or some bs lul

kill a shitty shade of orobyss

[stable shore]

yeah, something challenging

so you at least feel like you deserved it

[placid yarrow]

yeah i can get behind that

[stable shore]

nah i think they want to keep owobyss secret early on

[vagrant topaz]

Iirc it should change again

[placid yarrow]

don't reveal that it's a shitty shade

[stable shore]

maybe not a good idea to bring him up this early

[placid yarrow]

have it be mysterious

make its name ???

[stable shore]

a shade imo is too prestigious this early

OH i know

hear me out

make it a human of your class possessed by owobyss

so it's kinda shade - ish but isn't directly owobyss

and very important : don't make it fight like a player because that's fucking awfull of course

[twilit mountain]

Have you seen how badly they balanced enemies of player classes?

[stable shore]

yes, i was gonna tell about that lmao

mages and blade dancer enemies are fucking awfull

litteral trash

[placid yarrow]

so it's an exiled mage but for every class instead of just mage

[stable shore]

so don't design them as such

make them an actual boss

just themed around your class

[twilit mountain]

No, Leo. I mean the actual enemies designed after players classes, in arena

[stable shore]

for exemple, a boss that can only be beaten by your specific class talent

like for rogue, it would be a fast paced boss

because you have shift

[twilit mountain]

The ones that can at tier 1 arena one tap a 90+ character fpr some fucking reason

[stable shore]

oh, i never really saw them as a threat so idk

[twilit mountain]

The Primalist is absolutely insane

[stable shore]

but i know i despise the guild leader and exiled mage

exiled mage as melee is fucking awful

bro is always gone whenever you try to hit him

like with cascade i can chain 5 combo with me failing to hit him because he tps before i use shift or cascade

i'll teach you how to get some bitches

[twilit mountain]

Fuck off bot

[placid yarrow]

only 10 people!?

[stable shore]

what about all the people in my head ???

[placid yarrow]

@stable shore wouldn't this be kinda dope if it was phys?

[stable shore]

hum, if you can removal the bleed yes

cuz then you'd seal multi

but i mean even sealing multi is good

[placid yarrow]

wait you'd seal multi? what would you put in there?

i thought the play would've been to seal the bleed and put shred and then max out the multi

obviously hypothetical since it's got fucking lightning damage lol

[stable shore]

it's only hypothetical

it depends on rune of removal rng

but both have to go

one has to be deleted, and the other sealed

currently only shadow cascade wants a phys flat katana

and you want attack speed or melee crit

you could think it could be good for shadow dagger, but since the meta is shield you use a dagger no matter what

[placid yarrow]

Oh yeah I forgot about the attack speed scaling bs

[warped wren]

guys this is supposed to be off topic

imagine getting muted for discussing LE in the wrong channel

[junior oyster]

What is this LE you are talking about?

[placid yarrow]

Ah fuck we're off topic from the off topic channel

https://tenor.com/view/oh-god-need-tomboy-not-like-this-torment-gif-14128414539717779752

I'm too scared to type in general now, this is the new general

[stable shore]

Oh no, perma is coming

[placid yarrow]

Just don't snitch they don't check in here anyway

[twilit mountain]

I have been baited

[placid yarrow]

Lul

Where thy squire at

[twilit mountain]

It's like, 2divs rn lmao

[placid yarrow]

Squire? Wtf

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. People ain't playing with it so it has zero value.

[placid yarrow]

Man i should've played this league manabond mjölnir pops off with a squire

[eternal sky]

yea that might be my next build

sell lvl 21/20 pen brand

make a whole char

havnt played the build before

its pmuch arakali or mjo manabond/theotherstuff

tho

i want to do mana stack on scion

[placid yarrow]

Oh I do hierophant

[eternal sky]

ye hiero coc if ur doing squire n mjo

[placid yarrow]

Ya

[eternal sky]

i wanna do archmage cremation on scion

💀

[placid yarrow]

Lol

Gl

[eternal sky]

the volcano one

[placid yarrow]

Ye

[eternal sky]

archmage crema worked in the past and this is probs the strongest mana stacking has been in awhile

[placid yarrow]

NGL if I played this league I'd probably have done the mana rf instead since I played manabond last time I played

But I ended up skipping this league too, don't really regret it tbh the mechanic seems interesting to me, just a big ass mf boost

The ascendencies are the only cool part to me

[eternal sky]

ngl

its just meh

and i cranked the mana spent recently

soo like its way less

really cant tell with indigon builds

but like

the gear you need

[placid yarrow]

Yeah idk about 100k mana spent lol

50k is more realistic no

[eternal sky]

yea and even then

[placid yarrow]

Esp with just 14k max

I mean damage is decent, nothing crazy but it'll do the job

Unless you're deep delving or something

[eternal sky]

dps this league is actually uh

rough

wisps actually juice shit to the skies

[placid yarrow]

Oh because of the juice eh

Fair yeah

I forgot

[eternal sky]

i have a brand char that says it has alot of damage in pob but when im vs these wisp mobs

[placid yarrow]

Rofl

[eternal sky]

dudes like a mini uber boss

[placid yarrow]

Yeah you might wanna crank it then, this one seems rough

Join hierophant gang

[eternal sky]

nah thats just the top guy

[placid yarrow]

Go mana forged arrows or something

[eternal sky]

i pulled for

[placid yarrow]

That's giga expensive to gear though

[eternal sky]

rf

[placid yarrow]

Ah rf

[eternal sky]

ye ill find the og guy i got the volcano idea off of

https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Philippwolf123/Krakatoarchmage?i=0&search=skills%3DCremation%2Bof%2Bthe%2BVolcano%26class%3DAscendant

i was just searching around ninja

[placid yarrow]

The same dude I was talking about before got manaforged arrows into the billion(s? Don't remember) of DPS in standard

[eternal sky]

yea ive played that already

[placid yarrow]

Oh yeah? How is it in leagues

[eternal sky]

had a widowhail with chain etc

nah last league

the prism uh quiver

with chain

[placid yarrow]

Yeah I just meant in general without any legacy bs

[eternal sky]

better then last league probs

charms op

changes op

[placid yarrow]

True

[eternal sky]

most manaforged skills

got wicked quality changes

also more skills to manaforge

[placid yarrow]

There was also some brand tech that seemed kinda interesting but also kinda jank

[eternal sky]

ur swimming this league

[placid yarrow]

Where you cwc brands

[eternal sky]

there is alot of stuff you can do with brands

jungs auto trigger brandthing was really cool

with arma brand

just have like 36 arma brands

slam down ontop of you

[placid yarrow]

It was even more on and off than the manabond build in terms of DPS

It's like 0 DMG and then boom everything's dead instantly

Yeah I'll have to do some research before the next league

I didn't really find something I really wanted to play for this one, think that's why I kinda dropped it

[stable shore]

Not a big loss, squire is less than 2d

[warped wren]

Obtainium, surely

[warped wren]

I got this twice. I kept 1 and my +1 socketed gems Kaom's Heart as good luck charms

[twilit mountain]

No

[stable shore]

god finally i finished this fcking boss

and, funny thing, my inventory was full so the rewards went to the void

20h of tries for litteraly nothing

boss is fun and has a hot voice though

[copper pawn]

Lightning bama build, do they convert all damage to lightning or all depending on your bow damage? If so does flat minion phy dmg matter?

[stable shore]

astramentis

[faint mauve]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/Z5075QRfQ damn ashes look so gutted now in value

just curious to see the usual going rate after the nerf

[stable shore]

no i'm just a very funny boy with very funny jokes

congrats on the HH

[warped wren]

is this budget PB MF?

[copper pawn]

gotta pump up the numbers, those are rookie numbers

[daring shore]

World is constantly full when i try to get in FF14

idk if i should be annoyed or glad

bc queues are instant

[stable shore]

Queues take like 10sec lmao

[twilit mountain]

@stable shore AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[stable shore]

Zdps mysterious harbinger paid off !

Nice find

How much is it atm ?

[twilit mountain]

36div min!

[stable shore]

Do you hold or sell now ? It only goes higher

[twilit mountain]

Probably gonna sell, this will allow me to buy MB :D

[stable shore]

Mageblood gaming enabled

[twilit mountain]

This is gonna be the first MB I've earned

[stable shore]

Oh, you're gonna discover a new game then

It's a game changer

[twilit mountain]

I've used one before, I just never actually got one myself

[stable shore]

I was anti-mageblood because i always refused to buy one even if i could buy like 20, simply because it's cringe meta. When i finally gave up and got one, i changed opinion

It's kinda when you realize how bad flasks are a system

[twilit mountain]

I've known flasks were bad since I started playing the game

[stable shore]

Me too of course

[twilit mountain]

Did you play back when we had to piano them?

[stable shore]

Yup yup yup

[twilit mountain]

Remember when they decided literally any convenience for it was a bannable offense?

[stable shore]

I experienced 3.15 immunity flasks too

[stable shore]

We could actually get banned for it ?

I thought it was more like : you are not allowed to do it, but we won't say anyting if you do

[twilit mountain]

It was bannable

[stable shore]

Oh

I played with fire for a long time then

I had el classico lion's roar, BF, diamond flask crit, freeze imlunity silver flask

Average flask set up before 3.15

[placid yarrow]

Flask piano was so annoying lol

[stable shore]

Also i would say instilling orb are too rare

[twilit mountain]

[stable shore]

They should drop like candy

Early ssf feels bad because of that

[placid yarrow]

Hp and mana flasks having to be pressed manually makes me hate them in endgame builds

[stable shore]

You can only have an actual flask set up in red maps, because you need high ilvl

[placid yarrow]

Which is why I loved that you could use forbidden taste on death aura

That thing fucks

Put it on savage hit and you're chilling

[twilit mountain]

[stable shore]

Hum i don't totally agree with that

[placid yarrow]

Dis is da wey

[stable shore]

Anyway who use hp flask these days

[placid yarrow]

Wait

[stable shore]

Ruby flask mtx

[twilit mountain]

Ruby flask MTX

[placid yarrow]

I was about to say wtf is that lol

[twilit mountain]

(I got it in a free box)

It puts a cool bubble around me while it's on

[placid yarrow]

Nice

[twilit mountain]

See?

[stable shore]

Anyone else hate bottled faith ?

[placid yarrow]

Very red

[twilit mountain]

Yea

Self ignite MF Chieftain, I thought it'd be funny to wear all my fire stuff

[placid yarrow]

Meh

[stable shore]

Even the pre nerf one is awfull

It only working on conc ground feels bad

I never use it due to that

[twilit mountain]

I use it in Zealotry builds

[placid yarrow]

Yeah I only use it on builds that have lingering conc ground effect and stuff

Which is to say I've used it like twice ever lol

[stable shore]

Also lion's is ass for low dps melee build

Knockback is awfull

Though it's somewhat great for cyclone, it can actually keep everything away from you and is a solid defensive layer

[placid yarrow]

Think I used lions like once

Wise oak too, but that one kinda fucks

[stable shore]

I use it since like 3.9

I never removed it

Wise oak is annoying for little reward

I loved cinderswallow but it died once you lost crit chance on it

[twilit mountain]

You can still get crit chance on it though, no?

[stable shore]

I think no

[placid yarrow]

I just like wise oaks design

[stable shore]

It's now a core suffix mod

[placid yarrow]

I haven't used it in a while

[stable shore]

Not veiled

[twilit mountain]

I'll check, I thought it was still available

It says you can on the wiki

[stable shore]

It should be impossible, you can only have mod you can unveil

And crit chance is no longer a veiled mod

I'll check trade

[twilit mountain]

They might have fucked it up on wiki, dunno

[stable shore]

Exists in std, not affliction