📚┃off-topic

[junior oyster]

I'll be honest though I prefer to remove strikes first loll

[warped wren]

bulk liquidation via TFT / Trade is simultaneously annoying and satisfying

the dichotomy of life

[mental talon]

IMO given the option the 1st remove should unless it's Defect or Silent usually be a Defend (as Defect can get really high value with Frost and Silent has Footwork and other more common forms of generating def)

Whereas on Watcher or IronClad I'd try to go for 2 Defend removes before the 1st Strike especially Watched with Wrath being GOATed

[junior oyster]

Honestly I think I struggle the most on watcher lol

[warped wren]

beautiful

[junior oyster]

Now corrupt it

[warped wren]

No

18d to make this was reasonably lucky, don't want to tempt fate for no reason

[junior oyster]

I'm dumb with this stuff but I'm guessing despite it being good, it's not mirror tier right?

[warped wren]

not in the least

mirror tier bows are phys bows

this one is worth like 20-25d if I sell as is, maybe a bit more

[junior oyster]

I see

Would the bow have been better if it had +2 proj?

[warped wren]

insanely

[junior oyster]

I know the one spicysushi helped raxx make was a +2 proj bow

[warped wren]

that'd be like x10

afaik raxx used a +2 fractured base, didn't he

[junior oyster]

yea

[warped wren]

yeah that base alone is 2-3x this bow

[junior oyster]

And I didn't know you could spam essences on frac bases without scourge

I learnt that from that video lol

Apparently raxx spent around 60-70d on that bow though

Also the guy got a foiled hh...

Woaaah why is ashes so low this league? Too many people farming it? I see 800~

[warped wren]

reservation removal

[junior oyster]

Dang

At least stranglegasp hasn't been affected for something being so rare

Though currently it's on around 12d

[warped wren]

Stranglegrasp's niche uses always remain

[junior oyster]

Good thing I got pings enabled lol

I've uninstalled the mod just in case

[warped wren]

trades done, now we work, later we blast

[stable shore]

got the zeromus weapon poggies

we possess drip

[warped wren]

that scythe is fucking sick

[turbid trail]

Are you gonna run t7 or t16?

[warped wren]

t7 for now, this is the "budget" setup

I attempted t16 on normal Voltaxic TS with this kind of juicing and failed like 40% of my maps

so not doing that again until I have like HH + good gear or something

[turbid trail]

Good that you are aware

[warped wren]

yeah man those maps are the rippiest shit I've seen in a while

[turbid trail]

If you wanna blast t16 you need hh or be pathfinder

They are not that bad if you have well rounded character

[warped wren]

MFers aren't exactly well rounded without a few hundred div invested

but yeah

I think stuff like Penance PF does it fine

[turbid trail]

After I've equipped defiance of destiny I haven't died once

[warped wren]

I think if I were Champ again this league I'd have found it easier

[turbid trail]

On very high juiced t16 maps

And I have no idea how much my gear is worth tbh

Pathfinder is the way

If you want damage and tankiess

[warped wren]

I was PF initially but got kinda bleh'd out of SA Ballistas

and I had anyway thought of trying TS this league

so went down the TS rabbithole

[turbid trail]

Only downside is poison

Im playing selfcast CA with 3 manaforged setups

Ballistas have problem with survi

They die too fast

Can drop you my pob if you want

[warped wren]

the Goratha build right?

[turbid trail]

Yea

My gear is still kinda mid tho

What do you have on that talisman?

Quant + what?

[copper pawn]

man, it's fun checking fulcrum price everyday

feel like a good stock in a bull market lol

[turbid trail]

What happened to fulcrum price?

I'm kinda out of the loop

I remember that it was few divs at league start

[warped wren]

yeah 16% quant and a max mana implicit

[warped wren]

Tuna made a self-ignite explodey MF Chieftain using Fulcrum

[turbid trail]

Welp, classic sc trade

If you feel that you are dying too much try defiance of destiny

Or even crafted shaper amulet with 10% quant

[copper pawn]

yes, last 2 weeks was 7-8 div, 2 days ago was 17 div, now is 25 div lol, thanks to tuna

[turbid trail]

But that build was well known last league too

People are stupid or what?

[warped wren]

it's reasonably stronger this league with charms allowing explode stacking

also the way it's designed, you can completely bank on explodey for damage and toss MF gear at it

[copper pawn]

it's agreed to be the best wisp juice farming build this league, that's why

[turbid trail]

Yea but its exactly same build as league ago

With just charms added

And the same happened to fulcrum price too

It went from 3 div weapon to 30 div one

In like 2 days

[copper pawn]

I was interested in that build, but seeing the price hike, I choose to play animate weapon instead

[turbid trail]

Yea those are items you have to buy as early as possible

Same with progenesis

[twilit mountain]

Not even running every MF unique, smh, how lame

[placid yarrow]

He's beginning to believe

[shadow sundial]

full triple wisped 8mod T16s are not good for my mental health

why do i keep submitting myself to this

[copper pawn]

play fulcrum and submit again =))

[twilit mountain]

Simply invest like 70div into a character and you'll be fiiiiine

[warped wren]

maybe if I ever make it to HH

then I can consider Sadima

[copper pawn]

finally swap to animate weapon at 36 and man, it feels so much better than srs

[junior oyster]

Damn you going for a fairly niche build huh

[copper pawn]

ya, chaos animate waeapon, I heard it's doing much better than elemental, and at around 50div investment it's performing better than 100 div guardian srs

[junior oyster]

I would imagine poison srs witch is better but I guess you don't want a dot build

[copper pawn]

no dot, and no srs, like why would I play another srs build after playing one for weeks

also what's poision srs dps btw?

[junior oyster]

I dunno but I think I was doing about 500k per minion.

Last league

[copper pawn]

so 10m dps, cos 20 srs

[junior oyster]

Something like that

Other than ubers it did most content really well

[copper pawn]

Oh that's strange, according to my research poison srs is a superb bossing but not a great map clear

[junior oyster]

Insane map clear ;)

Only problem is you have to be fairly tanky so you are investing in a good AG

Kingmaker is one of those expensive gears for AG :)

It maybe different this league. Only thing I struggled with in maps was ubers and uber related content like blight ravaged maps

[copper pawn]

idk why your experience is the opposite of almost all content creators and build makers out there, it's odd

😅

[junior oyster]

Their builds (non srs) are probably much faster

[copper pawn]

meanwhile, fulcrum increases 10% compared to half a day ago

[junior oyster]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not playing poe anymore so I wouldn't know lol

[copper pawn]

inquisitor martyr now?

[junior oyster]

Slay the spire

Ofc spire slays me

[copper pawn]

I can't believe someone sells this for 2div, I bought immediately

same +2 minion, same socket colors, was 8div min yesterday

[junior oyster]

Damn hateforge is currently 12d? wut

[junior oyster]

Is this for your AW skill?

[copper pawn]

yeah, currently using 3G2B1R, but later when I can equip severed in sleep, I change to this

[junior oyster]

Going poison?

[copper pawn]

hmm, using bladefall is wrong, I should buy ethereal knives of lingering blades

no, chaos

[junior oyster]

So why would you not buy the covenant?

Uncorrupted is around 3d

Cov made my srs super op last league :)

[copper pawn]

cannot use, this build 1hp

[junior oyster]

Chaos inoc

I see

I take it you are following a build guide?

[copper pawn]

yeah, loosely so, no way I'm qualified to make my own build after just more than 2 weeks into such a deep game

[junior oyster]

Oh k

[copper pawn]

even wildwood ascendancy I have tough time deciding which one

in the end I still go with primalist

[copper pawn]

animate weapon of self reflection is also something worth looking at, coz it uses your own weapon instead of what's on the ground

[mossy thorn]

You get way way less tho

[warped wren]

Absolutely bananas bargain

Good snipe

[twilit mountain]

Extremely efficient play, extreme investment mapping, MF, party play. Plenty of ways.

[warped wren]

believe me when I say I am not trying to be a dick with this answer: by spending less time wondering "how" and more time just farming

I did 56 maps of Legion farming with an investment of 36c per map. At the end of it I had earned 70ish divs

it's like any other thing, you start small, and scale up. Start with 0 budget league start farming, then low budget farming, then high budget. The returns keep going up. The more efficient you are, the faster they go up

I am terribly inefficient in my playtime but still I manage somehow

in how many maps?

then you're either not investing enough into the map itself, or you're doing your wildwood incorrectly

[waxen sonnet]

By not having fun

[warped wren]

is this the high budget strat you're doing? Goratha's variant?

[warped wren]

oh come now

[twilit mountain]

I'm currently diagnosing my MF issues. Part of it is probably wildwood stuff but my luck with those is absolutely abysmal, I even took others in with me that know what they're doing and went "what the fuck is wrong with your woods?"

[waxen sonnet]

Lol sorry. "By treating it like your job"

Better?

[warped wren]

then you're 100% screwing up the wildwood pathing

[warped wren]

watch Tuna's video

I have learnt that anything below 4k juice = bad map usually, unless obv you get lucky

[twilit mountain]

I kinda hate the nature of guides. I don't want to hop 18 videos to figure out a mechanic.

[warped wren]

extremely. These maps are like 0.5d per

[twilit mountain]

I'll continue shitposting in the PoE community I'm in as we collectively bash our heads in to figure it out

[warped wren]

actually 0.7 probably if you count rolling the map

[warped wren]

the problem is the ultra randomized nature of this league mechanic

it is honestly a bit dogshit how RNG gated it is

[twilit mountain]

Me pulling a map with 2.5k yellow, 2k blue, and 2k purple and getting worse loot than someone with 0% Quant

[warped wren]

[twilit mountain]

I really like the concept of the league but holy fuck it feels baaaaaaad

[warped wren]

PoE Reddit is either giga toxic or in case of the builds subreddit is just filled with morons who think they're Poeinstein

it is really difficult to get meaningful user feedback outside of putting a feedback tool in the product itself

so it's probably a "better than nothing" option

sure, Reddit is a vocal, usually salty, minority but at least you're getting SOME feedback from there. Combine with streamer feedback + streamer community feedback, you can get at least some kind of semi-useful feedback loop established

imagine if they could integrate feedback surveys in the PoE client itself, twice per league

that'd be pretty hot

[viral galleon]

How many other companies have had devs do livestreams with a community podcast though

[warped wren]

oh I'm not blaming them, just pondering the limitations they have to deal with

I have not actively used the forum in years

I have no idea what even goes on there

I don't even use the main Discord, so no idea how good/bad that is either

[junior oyster]

How are they toxic?

[warped wren]

idk about the mods specifically but any time you open the subreddit it's filled to the brim with a bunch of salty fucks malding about some thing or the other

[junior oyster]

I see

[warped wren]

if you paid attention to the Reddit, you'd think the game makes your laptop explode every minute and Chris Wilson comes to kidnap your kids

[junior oyster]

I don't usually visit poe reddit

[warped wren]

best policy

[junior oyster]

The laptops exploding?

xD

Or chris kidnapping your kids

I see

[warped wren]

Tuna finally finished the God Spell Bow

[junior oyster]

Only 10d

[warped wren]

I have no idea man, he spent like 800d just in Tempering Orbs to get two crafted mods. The base alone is mirror tier, and he rolled the implicits a few times

[junior oyster]

Bruh

Most of us noobs won't

But even I was able to get an mageblood last league so it's at least somewhat possible

[twilit mountain]

My ass doesn't do viable money making strategies so I never get expensive stuff

[junior oyster]

I got lucky with apo gamba

bought two cards and turned them into 5

[warped wren]

this guy needs therapy

he is actually unhinged

tbf both him and the top tier guys in TFT, all psychos

[junior oyster]

You mean like Jebenu?

[warped wren]

yeah

[junior oyster]

I mean he had like 5000 or so locks?

[warped wren]

that's not my point. Belton, Jenebu, all these guys - they are incredibly toxic, egotistical and overall unhinged

just sit through like an hour of a Belton stream where he actually talks instead of afk-ing

it's wild

[junior oyster]

I see. I know none of them and frankly I don't care much

[warped wren]

yeah I mean, after that drama happened I saw a few back and forths and I was like yeah, these guys need to touch some grass and chill. Noped out after that

yeah TFT is a banana republic, but as long as they are fulfilling a much needed function, they will continue to exist and be utilized, and we will live with a lot of their other garbage

like most modern governments

[junior oyster]

Bruh those teeth throw me off

Never gunna happen

Trade is going to be shit forever

[warped wren]

but that would mean getting rid of

F R I C T I O N ™

I think that's a wildly hilarious conspiracy theory

[junior oyster]

As shit as the trade is, it is probably also the most free trade I know in an arpg.

I'd rather this trade than auction house trade

Or spamming in global trying to sell something only worth 5c

[junior oyster]

Finally got my expunge kill

This run was mental

[mossy thorn]

Just ask each trader if they have bulk

[copper pawn]

talk about compass, I tried 10 and not a single increase density sextant lol, does it need all 4 voidstones for that to appear?

[copper pawn]

the only thing I dislike about trade site is that I can't filter it to be empty prefix or suffix

bruh, my 5div guardian srs got better than that within 5 maps, and the only things invested were 4 rusted scarabs (not even gilded) and 2c for the abyss map (no sextant used)

fortunate cards drop like rain in jungle valley tbh

[copper pawn]

may I ask a noob question, for minion builds, the % chance for minion to taunt enemies is an extremely good defensive stat right?

[eternal sky]

soo wait

ur pissed cus you got banned from the tft discord

basicly

@south carbon

sounds like you took an L

ill keep enjoying my bulk buying of sextants

i mean you got banned

it required some shit interaction

[stable shore]

Mods can be zealous sometime

I basically got punished for respecting the rules once

[eternal sky]

idk how you get banned in tft

like you just message some one ingame and vouch

thats the whole process

[stable shore]

I'll explain

So context is ineeded hundreds of reforge life. I put a wtb message in wtb channel up all time for 2 days straight

And many persons sold me a ton, including one guy (total stranger) who sold me like 60% of them

I of course put 1 vouch per service done as i was supposed to

But i got accused of boosting his vouch and selling outside of tft (i litteraly met him from my wtb msg in tft) and we both lost half our rank with no way to discuss it

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

So mods can indeed be zealous

It's not so hard to get banned for nothing

Well there are many fair bans, and i believe they tend to be overkill with punishment and bans to avoid any scam as much as they can

I know sommeone who got banned because after he argued heavily with a tft seller, he ended the discussion by sending a random hentai pic

[eternal sky]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[stable shore]

ip banned in fact

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

Overall, fuck tft i would say

I'm still a slave to them because i need their mirror tier shit in standard though

[eternal sky]

also made big changes to my inquis char

[stable shore]

Neck size reduction ?

[eternal sky]

went petri blood got pain attune rf vita lightning coil grace spectre and wrath spectre

and also got herald of ash

[stable shore]

What's up with spectre this league

Apparently it's back on the menu

[eternal sky]

wrath aura with lucky light damage

[stable shore]

After being ass for months

[eternal sky]

its not spectres being good

they

[stable shore]

Oh, just support ?

[eternal sky]

give buffs

yea

[stable shore]

Classic

[eternal sky]

https://poedb.tw/us/Corpses

if ur summoner you can scale these buffs to like

lvl 30

[stable shore]

Perfect needles, gain 100% impale effect

I want that

[stable shore]

Litteraly like 50% more dmg or something

[eternal sky]

like that is lvl 70 spectre lvl

80 spectre lvl

would only need like +5 levels

i think?

but yea

[stable shore]

Ok, i see why it's OP

[eternal sky]

lvl 70 vs 80

actually insane

but yea

[copper pawn]

this is grace cast by thunderbird spectre right?

[clever hollow]

yeah

[copper pawn]

was about to ask question about it too, if I use my low level raise spectre on level 83 spectre, what happen?

[eternal sky]

no

it match lvl on ur spectre gem

it says what lvl ur spectre is

on the gem itself

the corspe level doesnt matter

[copper pawn]

what happen when gem levels up then?

[eternal sky]

auto levels the spectres

lol

[copper pawn]

nice, thank god not those snapshot

[shadow sundial]

I’m using a L21 gem, and a cheap +2 helm and +2 Empower to get the third Spectre (and higher lvl too). Pretty dope if you don’t need something specific in your head slot

Also I’m a cheapass so I’m not running the multi-Div ones. Using Forest Warrior, Warlord, and Hulking Miscreation. Tanky af and gives me decent buffs for the price

I have not had a Spectre die since shifting to this 🙂

And they get in there brawlin as I’m whipping traps into the packs

My only personal death since that switch was when I was mired in hubris and thought I could maybe facetank the final wave of a triple wisped harvest boss. I was ok for awhile, until the split second where I was very not ok

[eternal sky]

wraith helm is insane

ngl

get a +2 minion

socket empower

21 spectre

id be saccing alot tho

armour chaos res fire res 12% life 400 regen

would i really though

trade off is i get hatred grace i dont use turtle way to slow

grace hatred wrath zeal /couldcharm/ onslaught since you always have allies then probs purity of fire purity of light and just run ice yourself

[warped wren]

hey Gav

have you seen my bow

[eternal sky]

[eternal sky]

[warped wren]

exalt slammed the poison, but made it into an advantage by taking the poisoned enemies can't crit mastery

[eternal sky]

poison TS time

[warped wren]

nah I just shuffled some points around from the MF tree

it's already squishy enough, disabling crits kinda huge

[eternal sky]

ye

[copper pawn]

just to make sure, animate weapon is not a construct like srs right?

[warped wren]

http://poedb.tw

[copper pawn]

can't even find there, even srs doesn't show anything related to construct

[warped wren]

ask around in Ghazzy's discord

or whatever

[eternal sky]

people are using them

with srs

[warped wren]

try global /6666 I think that's minion central

[eternal sky]

they work

i wouldnt be seeing the

them

otherwise

[copper pawn]

found it

[twilit mountain]

High tier bow gang 🤝

[warped wren]

yours is better, I wish I could be arsed to go for DD

[copper pawn]

I'm concerned about this, if I wear 4W triad grip, do I benefit at all from this affix?

[warped wren]

but idk I don't think I need it rn

[warped wren]

yes

[twilit mountain]

I contemplated about doing the Aisling slam for like 5 minutes

[warped wren]

well, technically. Depends on how hard you're scaling the minion ele damage

[copper pawn]

I'm all in chaos, but I guess some extra lightning doesn't hurt

[twilit mountain]

I transitioned into a starter Omni setup today, it's going pretty nice

As long as I don't get hit anyway

[warped wren]

true TS gameplay

[copper pawn]

lol you can actually make rare boss with haste aura your spectre? that's so much cheaper than forest tiger

ok that's my imagination, the boss clearly has haste aura below its name, but when I kill it and make it my spectre, nothing happens

[shadow sundial]

thats the random mod that it gets, not an inherent part of the base mob type

[copper pawn]

darn, now I know there are drop only gems

[faint mauve]

ruthless is all drops except for 3 from siosa

[copper pawn]

Truly ruthless 😆

[faint mauve]

on my way to lvl 93 too

im well past lvl 100 already

[copper pawn]

finally done campaign for this char, darn

[junior oyster]

You been taking your time?

[copper pawn]

very much so, end of year work and shits
and the fact that this is only my 2nd time playing thru campaign, still kinda slow

[copper pawn]

how much investment per map?

[copper pawn]

so this item exists solely for the purpose of having a 6L item at level 1?

[junior oyster]

Yes and for early mapping

[copper pawn]

I see the guide using 2 void beacon jewels, so I assume both of them stack to give -40% chaos res right?

[junior oyster]

Got a sore throat so cold incoming 🥹

[twilit mountain]

Enhance, Enlighten, Empower, and all the awakened gems

[twilit mountain]

You and me both

[junior oyster]

Nooooo

[junior oyster]

I still won but it could have been faster with scales

[stable shore]

@simple needle the god gamer looted a defiance of destiny

And a rebuke

Is his build saved omg ?

[twilit mountain]

@stable shore ringge

[stable shore]

Corrupt for attributes %

[twilit mountain]

Nah. I'm broke after doing some gear work. Can't afford to try that.

[stable shore]

Rip, imagine having an implicit to build defence for a damage type that doesn't exist

Chaos res is just a myth, nothing damage can't fix

[twilit mountain]

Am I doin it right?

[stable shore]

That sounds very solid yes

I think the high end omni builds are in this area of omni ?

[twilit mountain]

very high end are quite past me, they tend to use % att synth rings and such.

I still have room for upgrades at least.

Hell I still have goldwyrms on

[warped wren]

2300 omni still with Goldwyrms is incredibly respectable

@twilit mountain could you share your POB please

[twilit mountain]

https://pobb.in/G7ch7ZTextxm
This is obviously not optimized, there's changes to be made (such as with jewels), I'm just lazy.

[warped wren]

thank you kindly

I wanted a reference point for swapping around if / when I'm tired of MF

[twilit mountain]

I am crutching a 15% strength Lethal Pride in there

There's also an unneeded topaz flask in that. Genuinely just don't have another flask to put in its place.

[warped wren]

Taste?

nice HP pool

[twilit mountain]

EHP isn't real on Omni TS

[warped wren]

true

either everything dies, or you do

simple as

[twilit mountain]

Exactly

Oh, you can take off Dread Banner, I'm genuinely not even using it, I just haven't bothered to take it out of the socket

[warped wren]

it's a good aura

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I just tried to keep as much life as I could

[stable shore]

man it's hard to find a static group to train anabaseios

i check static reruitement in ff14 discord regulary without luck so far

i also left a lfg post there of course

i need the gear

[waxen sonnet]

Yay mmos

[stable shore]

i mean, this game is really alive

but the system to find regular players is just ass

anabaseios isn't something you can do randomly in party finder

like, you need discord to talk and you need to attempt it with the same players

[waxen sonnet]

My statement still stands 🙂

[stable shore]

well the issue isn't because of the genre itself

[near hedge]

welcome to pf purgatory

[stable shore]

doing the nier automata raid atm

it's so boring

i need the transmog to step up my crossdressing

[warped wren]

All MMOs end up as fashion chase don't they?

From my limited experience with, like, Warframe and D2

[stable shore]

i mean i'm 99% focused on killing difficult boss

but without a static i'm not going anywhere

so fashion it is

[faint mauve]

what happened to your FC/static

[stable shore]

turns out they aren't that active

or at least they don't do much in game

[faint mauve]

i said multiple times FFXIV has much more end game content beyond savage raiding

and more "difficult" content also

[stable shore]

maybe, but i don't care about content that isn't extreme/savage/ultimate

and ascension gear only drops in anabaseios savage

[faint mauve]

deep dungeon ?

[stable shore]

i just want to kill the hardest boss

[faint mauve]

it has rankings

[stable shore]

the rest i don't care so much

[faint mauve]

you can always find another static anyway

[stable shore]

i need to clear anabaseios savage for the gear anyway

[faint mauve]

deep dungeons dont use gear lol

[stable shore]

yeah i hope so, i can't be the only one in need of a serious one

[stable shore]

i just want the gear for the sake of having it

ultimate won't even use it

[faint mauve]

savage raids on pub sucks all the fun because you'd meta the hell out of the raid before you even try

[stable shore]

it also seems straight up undoable

[faint mauve]

its doable i did it

[stable shore]

and a good way to wipe for 8h straight with no progress

oh, really ?

may be a last ressort then

[faint mauve]

yah if everyone knows what to do, they post the raid macro, everyone take their positions

if all goes well its one try

if not go well then ppl just /quit and try another group

[stable shore]

thing is i don't know what i'm doing

[faint mauve]

you dont queue on savage raid

you raise party finder "FRESH PROG/LEARNING"

for example

[stable shore]

yeah but i just think it would be much easier with a static

[faint mauve]

then ppl will join and learn the mechanics together, or if your lucky someone experience will join to teach everyone

[stable shore]

and there is no way i'm not the only new player going into savage

there should be a constant cycle of people like that

[faint mauve]

there is

[stable shore]

i'm just surprised how hard it is to find regular teammate in this mmo

[faint mauve]

errr you need to join a raiding discord

[stable shore]

on other mmo, you find a guild and you raid with that guild

[faint mauve]

ppl always have static member wanted posts

[stable shore]

oh

ff14 discord not good enough for that ?

[faint mauve]

you'll need to go through an interview process aka job application

[stable shore]

that's fine i'm used to it

[faint mauve]

im not on that discord, im on the OCE server disco

theres an OCE raid disco also

there would be an equivalent one in europe for sure and probably even bigger

[stable shore]

prolly that ?

[faint mauve]

prolly

have you done an extreme raid yet ?

then you start a pub fresh / learning party finder on an endwalker extreme raid

[stable shore]

only zeromus

killed it like 6 times

but it's the easiest one apparently

[faint mauve]

yeh theres more you can do

[stable shore]

what you think of that static ?

i don't wanna have my ass carried by pro players

[faint mauve]

yeah i think blind is good

some statics just meta the hell out of the raid and takes anyway the natural process i dont even see whats “challenging” about it anymore

i was in a blind static doing coils and HW savage tiers

[stable shore]

i asked that one too

not totally blind since the did the first 3 anabaseios boss

but a long term static would be ideal

[faint mauve]

yeah you become like buddies overtime

[stable shore]

yep

[faint mauve]

or not

[stable shore]

yes

[faint mauve]

team chemistry always required long term

[stable shore]

it's ok, i'm farming 2B raid cosmetic they'll be under my charm in no time

[faint mauve]

and being toxic doesnt help

[stable shore]

i'm not toxic but autism can make befriending people difficut sometime

[near hedge]

have you checked the balance discord?

[stable shore]

no, what's that

[near hedge]

its where all the hardcore raiders hangout

lemme see if i can find an invite

https://discord.com/invite/thebalanceffxiv

[stable shore]

i see no channel for recruitement

[faint mauve]

maybe read the rules , set your roles etc

[near hedge]

hmmm maybe they got rid of it. i havnt been in there in quite awhile

[faint mauve]

there used to be on there

[stable shore]

oh well it's ok

i'll wait to see what people answer to my messages

dmed 3 persons who would fit the bill

btw i'm DESPERATE about looting anabaseios 660 earrings

i'm stuck with attack speed dogshit crafted 650 earrings

and they fuck my cycle

hang on, i think normal anabaseios also gets me 650 gear

i'll see if i can find any 650+ earrings with no AS

[faint mauve]

ilvls dont matter unfortunately dunno why your so fixated on it

when you do daily roulettes, bozja, eureka its scaled down

[near hedge]

no i think its the gcd hes concerned with that on that one

higher ilvl for higher skill speed for lower gcd

[stable shore]

i don't care for that

really, all i care for is having the best possible gear

[faint mauve]

i never bothered anyway i dont even have a full set of 650s

[stable shore]

i don't care if it's not nescessary or stuff

like, 660 gear will do almost no difference

but it's cooler

[faint mauve]

when you do hunt trains your dps is like 1/50

ffxiv kinda also created a non competitive culture in the game

[stable shore]

i saw that lmao

no dps metter allowed, gear scaling

ultimate don't even use the best gear available

[faint mauve]

its also very japanese

unlike say blizzard

[stable shore]

also there is 0 min maxing to do

it's a braindead gearing

[faint mauve]

yeah

[stable shore]

like sure there are some small stat caop

but if you just go "crit > det > DH" like a dumbass you'll do fine

[faint mauve]

i mean if you want gear you can play LE or POE

[stable shore]

it's just about having the BIS gear

regardless if it's usefull or not

for my ego

[faint mauve]

i still enjoy ffxiv but i only login when its end of season / league in arpgs

[stable shore]

can i upgrade it to 650 somehow ?

or 640 is all there is

1 materia socket is kinda yikes

[faint mauve]

its been awhile so i cant give an accurate answer

my brain is all POE atm

[stable shore]

i checked planner

there is no 650 no skill speed option

rest is 1 materia trash

but it's possibly better

by normal raid earring, do they mean normal anabaseios or tomestone ?

fuck skill speed honestly, if it screw my rota and is a dead stat, then losing a materia is ok

[copper pawn]

just to make sure, I can bench craft corrupted item right? wanna add main stats into this

[stable shore]

no, you can only change sockets, links and colours

(at the cost of 1 vaal orb per currency needed)

[warped wren]

We should all start giving keikakujin the most wrong, fucked up answers possible so they start googling basic shit

[stable shore]

i've been an official chat gpt for this server since i first joined

[copper pawn]

idk why the large jewel I bought 2 days ago, today x10 the price lol

wanna buy 2nd one but now too poor for that

[mossy thorn]

Item level maybe? If it's a 12 socket 10% damage jewel those cost a good chunk

[copper pawn]

just normal 12 socket minion damage jewel
bought 1 for 1 div around 2 days ago, now it's impossible to buy another one without farming up

[copper pawn]

meanwhile I bought a white one for 5c and crafted with alt and regal, sure the energy shield is missing but the cost is 5c vs 10 div

I guess that's a win

[faint mauve]

no its not

you want the good passive skills, it does not have to be meta top shelf

you also dont need to have 10 divs to get it, you can try crafting it yourself with a bigger budget

for example on my old minion build i have

[copper pawn]

that's not for this build, out of 5 different guides I've seen for animate weapon, you want all 12 passive skills blank with no passive skills involved

or else I could just pull the large jewel from my guardian srs and be done already

[faint mauve]

no passive skills? then you can settle for even white cluster

[copper pawn]

no, you need 3/4 and preferably 4/4: int, energy shield, minion atk speed, effect

particularly the energy shield

[faint mauve]

ooh ok

you following ghazzy's build ?

[copper pawn]

no, I adapt from a guide in 3.20

quite a tough process considering my limited understanding of the game

[faint mauve]

12 cluster jewels looks like a bait

it should be 8 cluster jewels

also i googled ghazzys animate weapon, he still uses the same as mine

[copper pawn]

still lack 2 important jewels that give up to -40% res

[faint mauve]

ghazzy is the most well known expert in minions

i suggest you take a closer look at animate weapon

[copper pawn]

I don't think he is, personally I think subtractem is better than him

[faint mauve]

alright... i dont follow any of them anyway

but let me look at subs

cant find it easily, anyway you using a build with an outdated passive tree i think

[real sable]

that's not correct for most minion builds

with 35% increased small passive effect 12 passive minion clusters become the most value per point spent in the tree by a huge margin

[faint mauve]

has it changed since ? its usually 8 cluster and then 4 cluster on it

[real sable]

if you're not rolling 35% increased effect, 8 passives are fine

[copper pawn]

I'm poor, I only have 25% on both jewels

[faint mauve]

top of the search for animate weapon still goes to ghazzy

he uses 8 cluster on his medium budget build so i dunno man

either way works in the end of the day you gotta compare both setups on POB to see the difference

[copper pawn]

I looked at his build already, after 5min watching, I think his is more of a meme build tbh, with next to zero regard for your own char's survivability

[copper pawn]

does the 35% also affect the -% res if I have my unique jewels slotted in?

[real sable]

no, it only affects the cluster itself

[copper pawn]

that's great to hear
now my next job is to make it to 5k+ ene shield, and earn 20+ div to buy the 2 unique jewels

[faint mauve]

when i last did a necromancer i did ubers with less defenses than my usual setup haha

for maps id have stuff like aegis etc but for bossing i just switch to more dps focused

[copper pawn]

and charms too, oh man mana reserve efficiency charms are expensive

too bad that which was taken cannot be placed into primalist charm slot haha

is it true if you can't reach 100% spell suppress chance, may as well be 0?

[real sable]

pretty much

people who say less than 100% is fine are already playing tanky af build and they couldn't point out a suppressed hit if you held a gun to their head

or they're glass cannons and get oneshot anyway

[warped wren]

jesus christ dood

24 maps and not only did I recoup my entire 60 div cost of MF transition + 12 divs investment, I even made some profit

that's nuts

just bought a mirror shard for it to hopefully a bit while I holiday for a couple days, and some compasses so I can blast when back

crazy mechanic

and I'm sure I'm still doing it not optimally, I average around 3-4k juice most maps, very rarely 5k+

[copper pawn]

average how much you make per map?

and what's the investment?

[warped wren]

I spent ~12d or so for 24 maps, + some extra for rolling / some self-farmed scarabs etc

I guess I made about 74? pretty insane

[copper pawn]

6 div per map, great lol, I'm still aiming for 3 div per map but nowhere close yet

[warped wren]

3

[copper pawn]

sorry I fail math

[warped wren]

But 3 is more than enough, because I only need to get lucky once

[copper pawn]

thinking of selling my guardian srs to fund my current build hmm

[twilit mountain]

I literally can't juice maps without an aurabot so I don't get to make money, which consequently also means I don't get to make builds so I may as well not play the game

I wish I had just done the chieftain thing instead of TS, it just works

[copper pawn]

this one means I can still recraft it to another affix right?

[twilit mountain]

Yep, as long as it isn't corrupted you can replace crafted affixes with another crafted affix, you just have to pay an extra scour at the bench

[copper pawn]

thanks, coz sometimes it says crafted, sometimes it says of upgraded, so just wanna make sure

[twilit mountain]

I think upgraded is just a higher tier of the craft

[copper pawn]

if I'm immune to chaos, by definition of poison which is chaos over time, I'm also immune to poison right?

[faint mauve]

google poison poe wiki wen

poison is an ailment like bleeding etc

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ailment

[twilit mountain]

Are you using CI? Should be immune to poison if so.

[copper pawn]

imagine I have 7-8 of this lol, juice farming this season will be a cake

[copper pawn]

I still struggle to understand why awakened multistrike costs that much when the benefit it provides is so miniscule compared to a level 20 normal gem
at least awakened minion damage has +1 to all minion skills at level 5, multistrike has nothing at level 5

[junior oyster]

Skill repeats 3 times vs 2 times?

[twilit mountain]

^

That's real strong

[junior oyster]

That's a huge boss killer

You gotta read what the skill does rofl

Also the third hit does 66% more damage so even more dps

[twilit mountain]

Third repeat is also jacked, fuck. I didn't remember it was that high.

[junior oyster]

Me neither and I didn't care for ubers last league so I was good with a normal multi

[copper pawn]

oops, I will pretend I didn't see that, instead of accepting I'm blind

[twilit mountain]

real

[copper pawn]

awakened void manipulation gives +1 skill to supported chaos skill gem, I wonder if my animate weapon dagame is all converted into chaos, does that count?

[twilit mountain]

Nop, AW is not a chaos skill gem

[copper pawn]

Ah ok, the guide must have forgotten that

[junior oyster]

How the hell do I make this thing go faster? Wtf Bliz

[copper pawn]

D4 update?

[junior oyster]

Logging in to leave clan and uninstall 😂

Uninstall taking forever

[copper pawn]

that's gigachad move lol

talk about clan, I also intend to leave my guild

[junior oyster]

I didn't want to take up space in the server

And did inform them I was quitting basically forever

Until the expansion at least

[copper pawn]

my reason for quitting guild is different, they serve no purpose and always post paid powerlevel and paid shit in guild channel, fed up with that

and yeah if I don't see any meaningful update with d4 I won't play for a while

LE 1.0 coming out in jan anyway

[vagrant topaz]

February

[copper pawn]

did I undersell this thing? posted 2 div and traded for 10 div

[junior oyster]

Someone gave you 10d for it?

[copper pawn]

yeah, like suddenly received 20 people contacting, and it seemed I could sold for more, coz I told 1 guy about the 10 div and he said he could have paid more

[junior oyster]

Then probably

I'm not too good with this kinda stuff either lol

[copper pawn]

awakened poe failed me lol

who could have thought

[junior oyster]

This is why I kinda like tft because you can get pricing help for specific items

[copper pawn]

it seems like my guardian srs is much richer than I thought lol, selling it could fund my necro to the next level

[junior oyster]

Necro?

[copper pawn]

witch playing summons

[junior oyster]

I thought you were gunna go non-minions

[copper pawn]

yeah, but the 100 div min budget turned me off

[junior oyster]

So you going animated weps then?

[copper pawn]

would say this build is better qol than srs, since the things last for more than 1 min

[junior oyster]

Are you in late game maps?

[copper pawn]

yeah, t16 comfortably

[junior oyster]

Fair enough. I still feel like poison srs would be the better pick overall but it's your build not mine :)

[copper pawn]

it definitely has ways more tankiness than my build yeah

[maiden widget]

did you click on base item at least in awakened trade

[copper pawn]

this is white sockets on you or on AG?

[daring shore]

cant they yknow

kick you

the literal simplest thing to have when you implement a guild/clan system

[junior oyster]

They can but I wanted to leave myself

[stable shore]

I found a static for ff14

I'll have to clear mount rokkon savage tuesday with them as a trial

[shadow sundial]

killed Maven on my first attempt ever. zero deaths! (got close towards the end though)

[stable shore]

Well played !

I'm guessing it became sketchy with ground aoe ?

[shadow sundial]

Moreso just everything happening at once at the end. I did watch a guide first though, I didn’t want to waste the 2d I spent on the map

[warped wren]

Invitations are insanely expensive this league

Byproduct of everyone and their grandmom doing MF mapping instead

I was selling Maven invites in bulk for 1.3 each last league

And this league they're 2+ lelw

[warped wren]

When trying to price fractured gear, use the "Base Item" tab in awakened PoE trade. It'll give you a much better indicator

That said I think 10 div isn't bad for that, could probably have angled for higher

[junior oyster]

For me it's the stupid memory game. I can never see the visuals properly and even if I can I forget in the third phase lol.

[shadow sundial]

yeah i watched that part in the video guide a few times, counting along in my head (left/right/top) as the dude was doing it, just to get some muscle memory before i went in

shit still got crazy with the beams and all the stuff flying at me though

[junior oyster]

If you can dps her fast enough she isn't much of a threat other than her memory game

Non-uber version at least

[shadow sundial]

im playing explosive trap trickster, i can usually phase bosses if i get a few seconds to setup the pile of traps

[daring shore]

@simple needle the Drone 2 i asked from a family friend is bought and is on the way

we are so back

[twilit mountain]

Congrats. That is the fight I am absolutely worst at and despise like no other. Nearly every build I have ever played is quite literally guaranteed to die if the no regen lasers touch me even once. It is, in my opinion, a straight up bad mechanic since the only counter for it is "just don't touch them". Doesn't help that I also play on wifi and their hitboxes get super fucking weird.

[shadow sundial]

there was one point at the end where i was at 10% hp, no life charges left, no energy shield up, and the stack of traps were up on maven waiting to trigger. it was kind of a "now or never" moment heh

[celest wagon]

I just have to brag somewhere, those who knows, knows.
Today was a good day.

[eternal sky]

Mavens such a pushover boss once you realize the only mech that matters is memory

All her other abils besides her slam do like 0 damage

[stable shore]

the stand still thing is a no no to take in the uber variant

i really hate that ability btw, i know it's not random and you can predict where it will appear with how she lifts her arms, but fuck that

[simple needle]

Godgamers been playing so much of this league it's surprising

[stable shore]

he is having a lot of fun

he just isn't playing a dogshit build this league

that helps enjoying it

[simple needle]

Tbh no other content near end of year

No more new games or drama to farm

[stable shore]

i can see him go 7/7

nothing to play like you said

and also even if this char dies, he has a billion OP uniques and gear to use

i ahve faith

[stable shore]

man i despise those in between quest with nier automata raid questline

i just want transmog to dress up like a slut, i don't care about any of the dwarfs

i wish i could just burn down their village, they are fcking annoying

[twilit mountain]

This is the funniest fucking way you could ever phrase this

[stable shore]

this is just straight up facts

no one do those raids for anything else

i got the 2B stuff already

i want the 9S hoodie though

[twilit mountain]

There is something eerie about this image and I can't tell what

[stable shore]

no idea what you mean by that

seems pretty normal

i just have the last raid to unlock and run, if i'm lucky i should post a new drip screenshot here really fast

[twilit mountain]

I sent this to my roommate. Who is 3 feet away from me. And she fucking responds to me via DM and immediately goes "why did I respond in text???"

[stable shore]

i understand, there are thing you can't say out loud

because my character simply have an unspeakable drip

walking simulator over

i was THAT close to genocide every dwarfs of this area

[twilit mountain]

Fr*nch

[stable shore]

for my defence, FF14 french dub is absolutely god tier

i far prefer it over the english and japanese version

[near hedge]

that whole questline was a fucking drag. the raid itself was pretty aight though

[stable shore]

yes it's ok

boss have a bit too much hp for how easy they are imo

but the transmogs are sick

[stable shore]

IT TAGGED

[twilit mountain]

What does tagged mean

[stable shore]

i think it's just the french english way to say it actually

basically i just found a party

[twilit mountain]

Ahhh

[stable shore]

holy fuck i hate the experience so far

for many reasons

holy fuck w

what a trash raid

genuinely the worst mechanics i saw in this game

it's so random

it's litteraly impossible to guess anything as a first run

litteraly 1/10

it's not even difficult

[faint mauve]

heresy its awesome

i also dont suffer through spamming alliance raids for glams, it just dropped naturally over time

[stable shore]

how so

I HATE THIS RAID

fucking hell

there are so many things i hate about it

the mechanics are so freaking basic, yet they lack any basic information for you to predict what is actually gonna happen and of course they are one shot

like, now that i did it once, never in a million years i'm gonna get hit by anything ever again

but i just think it's bad design

like on the last boss, the tower falling with knockback except there is NO indication it's gonna be a knockback

i just assumed it would have been a huge point blank aoe

and the game just went "no fuck you it was a knockback, you fall clown"

add to that the boring as fuck quests in between, this is the worst content i did so far

[shadow sundial]

jesus tittyfkn christ. i ran a 4 way just to unlock my map slot. i threw up the jewels for 3d and got spammed hard on this one. relisted for 70 and still got a whisper

[stable shore]

smells like MF stuff

test it in ranger areas and see if it has many rarity anywhere

[twilit mountain]

Oh

I know what that probably is

It's likely a really good one for the self ignite build going around

[stable shore]

you probably hit the jackpot ngl

[twilit mountain]

Plug it in near marauder/templar area and see

[stable shore]

it will likely go for over 100+d

[twilit mountain]

If it has 80% to avoid shock and other useful stuff it's cracked

[stable shore]

me who spent 1000+ on PoE

i am a professional at getting robbed by game company

[twilit mountain]

Me waiting for the KH4 release announcement so I can whip out my credit card immediately

[stable shore]

oh, i didn't know there was a new KH announced

i'm surprised it didn't make more noise

but i guess not every communities go scream in other community when something happens in their

looking at JJK readers

[twilit mountain]

We know fucking nothing about it. There is one trailer from a good while ago and absolutely nothing else.

[stable shore]

okay so for now, it's a thing and nothing more

[twilit mountain]

Yeah

[stable shore]

probably why it didn't make much noise yet, no marketing

[twilit mountain]

But it's a thing of my favorite series so it's a big thing to me no matter what

[stable shore]

that's pretty cool then, i'm happy for you

the only game release i wait for religiously are poe 2 and deltarune chapter 3 ngl, i was really excited about game release, aside of i guess borderland 3 ?

[twilit mountain]

The one single trailer we have goes soooooo haaaaard

[shadow sundial]

im kind of a POB newb. im trying to plug this in now and its getting wonky on me. maybe i need to import someone's build to try it

[stable shore]

hang on, i'll take care of it for you

just tell me what number it has

[shadow sundial]

thanks for the help

maybe i can get a mageblood if this sells 🙂

[near hedge]

the mogstation prices are so outrageous its not even funny

[shadow sundial]

i saw some BIS timeless listed for 250d+ for my own build, so i get it

[stable shore]

coming from poe it's actually fine to me

it's hard to relate at other game price ngl

[near hedge]

idk, ive never been an mtx person. so maybe its just me

[twilit mountain]

Vision underrated, ignite go

[near hedge]

lol wtf even is this

[twilit mountain]

Me putting on all my fire cosmetics because it's funny

[stable shore]

so i'm checking pob

what other good mod you want for that build with avoid shock ?

i see two spots with 1 avoid shock

the second one is probably the good one yes ?

[twilit mountain]

Rarity, chaos res, endurance charges when hit, flask effect, aura effect, and generic ailment avoid are all great

[twilit mountain]

Yup, that's the spot everyone uses

[stable shore]

hum i only see a 12% supress node

here

is evasion good ?

[twilit mountain]

Suppress is probably decent as well

[stable shore]

tbh i don't see why it would be so expensive so far

[twilit mountain]

Evasion is dead for the build, might be another spot.

[stable shore]

aura effect here

50% fire res

and 50% cold res

[shadow sundial]

i cant tell from the mix of names what builds are wanting it. hints, kind of

there's a MF/rarity effect on that jewel set, right?

[stable shore]

this seems to be the most interesting spot in marauder area

hang on, there is another good one

[twilit mountain]

Oh. That's really. good actually. It's getting used for Chieftain mostly, and we already path to that spot and half those circled spots.

[stable shore]

it may be that one too ngl

[twilit mountain]

That could be killer Scion stuff there

[stable shore]

that's the only two good one i saw

i didn't check near ranger area and deeper into duelist/witch

[twilit mountain]

I'd genuinely pay for this one, hell I paid 5div for mine that was just shock avoid.

[stable shore]

it's probably what explains the price yes

don't mind me, i'm a standard andy, if i don't see shock avoid + 4 rarity node i'll be "meh"

[copper pawn]

is poe very cpu heavy? I used by brother's laptop last week, rtx 3060 not bad, but still quite laggy

[twilit mountain]

Pretty sure it's more CPU bound than GPU bound yeah

[stable shore]

burh i need that jacket so bad, but it just won't tag at this hour

if i didn't spend so much time doing ther questlines, maybe i would have been able to tag more than once

i basically want the gloves and jacket

rest i'll use the 2b stuff

[copper pawn]

I'm thinking if I should replace predator with increased crit strike as a support gem for my animate weapon, predator is strong but I feel like it's for doing boss, in normal map clearing nobody has time to cast signal prey every now and then

[copper pawn]

really disappointed with filterblade, set to strict, throw kingmaker on the ground, nothing shows, wonder how many great rare items have I missed this way

[faint mauve]

anyone knows if wildwood wisps empowers conq/shaper/elder guardians ?

[twilit mountain]

I'm pretty sure I have fought an empowered Drox

[stable shore]

i'm making a standard build

deadeye warcry "slammer" chain stacking

[twilit mountain]

Holy based

[stable shore]

it's not that std makes it OP btw

it's just that it doesn't work without the old molten strike jewel

i will of course completely ignore defence and clear

i just want to see big numbers

[twilit mountain]

I am zDPSing my way through the last two acts

[stable shore]

the cast when stunned build ?

[twilit mountain]

Yea

I'm not at all setup right rn

[stable shore]

btw, will it work like i'm thinking :

the idea is i make all projectile chain, they come back with nimis

[twilit mountain]

Granted it's purely a build for mapping, it will never have damage

[stable shore]

then they split on cursed enemy

and again come back to me with nimis

[twilit mountain]

I approve

This sounds extremely silly, please make it work

[stable shore]

clearing will be so insanely scuffed, i see no way it feels good to play outside of boss

[twilit mountain]

[stable shore]

i'm really unsure it will work like i think it will ngl

what i'm sure off is after chain, all of the projectiles will come back to me

but then if they hit the cursed target, will they even split ?

[twilit mountain]

Let's check wiki

[stable shore]

wiki doesn't say much on split

[simple needle]

Rat

[stable shore]

i do know it's possible for projectiles that can shotgun to hit again with nimis

[simple needle]

Leo u like my Christmas rat

[stable shore]

so if i have enough projectile speed

[twilit mountain]

Seems like it should work?

[stable shore]

is it yours ?

[simple needle]

Yes

[stable shore]

he is very cute

[twilit mountain]

Good rat

[stable shore]

what's his/her name

[simple needle]

Do ur parrot eat rat

Kevin

Kekw

[stable shore]

that's oddly cute lmao

[twilit mountain]

I have a friend named Kevin

[stable shore]

rat named kevin in a deer costume is awesome

[stable shore]

she will most likely be so scared at any rat she will straight up throw herself on the ground

[simple needle]

I like animals with human names for some reason

[stable shore]

i tried showing her a cricket, even that is a no for her

[stable shore]

i try to give all my animals human names

[twilit mountain]

My cat has a weeb name

[stable shore]

my dog too

[simple needle]

What weeb name

[twilit mountain]

Shiharu

[stable shore]

i litteraly named my dog after that guy from tokyo ghoul

Uta

[twilit mountain]

Oh based, this guy's hot

[simple needle]

Wth

[stable shore]

he is indeed

[twilit mountain]

My other cat, who is not in the state with me, has the name of a goddess. But it's a male cat.

[stable shore]

you can say whatever you want about tokyo ghoul, that manga got many fine looking man

[twilit mountain]

Honestly, it's not a bad series. It has some bad moments but overall it's pretty solid imo

[stable shore]

i think so too

i rate it 7/10*

[twilit mountain]

I think I can agree with that

[simple needle]

I don't see my pet as hot though

[stable shore]

like, it's not a masterpiece but i enjoy it regardless

i do not either thanks god

[twilit mountain]

There's far worse out there

[stable shore]

i named my dog after him because i found him cool

[twilit mountain]

This is so peak

She's dead now

[stable shore]

can't see shit 🔥

peak build

i think that guy was my favourite design from tokyo ghoul

[twilit mountain]

Oh the psycho!

[stable shore]

... i can fix him

[twilit mountain]

[stable shore]

tbh he wasn't so much a psycho anymore by the end of the manga

he matured a ton and became much more serious about everything near the end of the manga iirc

[twilit mountain]

I don't think it was finished when I was actively reading it, I lost access to a lot of the stuff I was reading a few years ago.

[near hedge]

man the manga was soooo much better than the anime. they did the manga so fucking dirty

[stable shore]

the anime is honestly one of the worst adapation i ever saw

if you discovered TG with the anime and hate it now, it's completely fair

[twilit mountain]

It is incredibly mid

Like. It's not good at all. But it's also at such a state that I can't genuinely say "this is one of the worst things I've ever seen"
It's just so unsatisfying that it manages to become the very definition of "meh"

[stable shore]

i dont watch enough anime to have seen worse

i always mostly read

[twilit mountain]

Fair. I tend to read now, I watched a lot more before I went to school.

[stable shore]

i'm actually gonna rewatch the whole fairy tail anime at some point

i must finally decide if i hate it or not

[simple needle]

Hot take but most modern anime kinda sucks now

[twilit mountain]

Incorrect take

[simple needle]

Only bad thing about fairy tail is the fan service

[stable shore]

i do miss old anime style, but we are getting many masterpiece these days

[stable shore]

i think there are many plot issues too, but i probably overreacted on my first read

[twilit mountain]

There's always been bad anime, it just gets highlighted more now imo

[stable shore]

like, overall the more i think about it the more i think fairy wasn't so bad

and there was many good moments

[simple needle]

Fairytail will never be as bad as demon slayer

[twilit mountain]

that series fucking sucks