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[faint mauve]

its a game where your punished for making mistakes and it will take some time to learn

its the other extreme on the genre thats why LE / GD exists

[daring shore]

do not confuse punishment

with shitting on your time

this is not punishment

this is just shitting on your time if you want to learn

[faint mauve]

i dont see the same though

[daring shore]

i shouldnt have to get out of the game to learn a god damn boss fight

i should be in there

fighting it

[faint mauve]

you think LE is not the same on HC ?

its just different degrees of preparation

[daring shore]

LE has nothing to do with our current conversation

if LE works the same way

that is ass too

[faint mauve]

its alot more readable on LE thats my point

you'd need an offline mode with hacks to maybe go straight into a practice thing

[daring shore]

not really

no one loses anything

or gains

[faint mauve]

then it would destroy the purpose on making builds because buildmakers can just practice offline and show the results without needing any effort

[daring shore]

why is that a bad thing

[faint mauve]

a streamer might as well just toggle into making builds offline and have proof of how far it can go with zero risk

[daring shore]

also what offline

there is no offline in this conversation

[faint mauve]

offline would feed into your idea of free practice

[daring shore]

no

i literally want a practice mode run

on the online

i dont want offline to be any part of it

[faint mauve]

it may as well be offline ?

what does 20 ping affect you otherwise

[daring shore]

sure but that is not the point

[faint mauve]

the goals are the same

[daring shore]

the point is providing newer players more ways to actually do the fight instead of watching the fight

[faint mauve]

you mean you need to watch the fight beforehand to get your first win ?

i didnt do that

theres so much powercreep in sc poe to the point where its no longer a challenge

[daring shore]

and make them learn the fight by doing the fight instead of going to a youtube video

[faint mauve]

you will juice delirium and farm the same map x100 times to get your mageblood

more than that actually

then its automatically gonna be easy mode from there

[daring shore]

a new player cannot do those

[faint mauve]

its just aspirational content for the new player to have something to aim for

[daring shore]

if the player in question can do that he/she is already not a new player

[faint mauve]

a new player dont deserve to bulldoze the end game

[daring shore]

sure

beating the real thing is their goal

not beating the dummy

they beat the dummy to learn how to beat the actual thing

[faint mauve]

yah it just takes practice and commitment then it becomes braindead on standard

[daring shore]

they can easily make story versions of exarch and eater that are easier

make it for each boss and put em in a practice interface with kirac

[faint mauve]

exarch and eater is free for me, i done it already on ruthless on a 4 link

[daring shore]

this is not about you

this is about new players

you and i are already past this point

except maven and ubers

i havent done those

[faint mauve]

its very achievable because quest exarch and eater is still lower level than 84

and you only need another t16 which drops like candy in sc

if you fail

[daring shore]

WHY

why

why put them tru that

[faint mauve]

no pain no gain dude

it will feel good when you get the gainz

[daring shore]

it will feel good when you beat the actual thing

and not the dummy

[faint mauve]

poe exists for a minority of the genre anyway

and it bleeds further more to 10% playing HC and 1% on ruthless

other arpgs exist to cater for that middle ground

the fact that GGG is willing to put a mode for 1% of the playerbase is a rarity itself

and its made by GGG devs who only will play HC so it automatically puts most players off

[copper pawn]

I just realize, my atlas idea is stupid, I may as well map it to the way I like, farm currency and buy the fragments to do the quest instead

is div card strategy and running in crimson temple good?

[twilit mountain]

Dunno how good it is but I know people who do it

[junior oyster]

GD does punish you too tbf. But a lot less.

But ofc GD being an offline game makes it hell of a lot easier to not die so often

And exping isn't as slow as TQ

I think GD would be much more punishing if the exp gain at the higher levels was a lot less

[copper pawn]

but in a sense the activities need to fit the build also, say if your build is not good at bossing, obviously you shouldn't do boss rush strat

[warped wren]

That's what you should always do tbh. Play the way you find fun

Trade allows you to do that at your convenience. And if you get bored you can always start an SSF or HC or whatever char

[warped wren]

Gonna need a source on this that every single dev plays HC, else I call horseshit

[twilit mountain]

There are a lot who play HC but I would wager it is a decent split between them.

[warped wren]

It exists but the good card drop rates are incredibly low, so you need to juice the fuck out of your map to make the drops achievable. We're talking like, at least 80-100c investment per map, probably more this league

And of course the maps are commensurately difficult and time consuming

[warped wren]

Sup Deias, what'd you do with the giga bow?

[copper pawn]

now I'm trying to combine what I love to do + what the build is good at
people say guardian srs is really good at trials, but man I suck hard at that

thinking abyss, strongbox, shrine, expedition

[twilit mountain]

Working with some folks to make a low end MFer and go nyoom. My playtime is gonna be low the next few days as I'm out of the house for the weekend touching grass and will only be able to play when I'm unable to be outside any longer.

[warped wren]

Pog. This is the league for MFing for sure

I too am farming for that

[twilit mountain]

Starting off with just basic bitch shit and then will work my way up to Omni shenanigans

[warped wren]

My recommendation to you would be exarch altars + essences + expedition. I did that on Poison SRS which is somewhat similar

SRS have the single target for essences, altars are just free money, and Expedition can become a printer

Being ele SRS you'll need to pay attention to the remnants a bit more

[junior oyster]

Rax has released his first (and possibly not last) guide for poe

Ofc it's an hour long

[copper pawn]

that's short compared to ziz guide

[warped wren]

What a craft, holy

(not mine)

[twilit mountain]

Damn, that's a nasty wand

That base alone is gross

[shadow sundial]

how does an invitation sale like that work? you get invited to the 14th/28th exarch/eldritch map the person runs and you get your own drop or something?

[junior oyster]

No he sells you the invite

[shadow sundial]

oh its the invite to the battle with the boss itself?

[junior oyster]

yea

same way as selling shaper frags

[shadow sundial]

those maps are cheaper than these prices on trade, why wouldnt people just buy the map?

[junior oyster]

What maps

[shadow sundial]

thats the same thing right?

[junior oyster]

It's easier to buy in bulk even if it's a little more expensive

[shadow sundial]

yeah but it seems like asspain to do a group invite thing, why wouldnt people just solo the map? or is this essentially selling a carry service?

[junior oyster]

No you sell the invite like trading an item for divs

[shadow sundial]

oh got it they're stocking up a bunch

[junior oyster]

Yeas

[shadow sundial]

i still think just using the trade site would be easier

but w/e

[junior oyster]

For a few yea but when you want 20+ bulk is easier/better

[junior oyster]

Despite my struggles I got to here at least

[warped wren]

This is bulk selling

The folks who buy are dedicated boss runners

They'll buy like dozens or hundreds of invites and run them back to back, taking like a few seconds per invite

If you sell 1 invite, it's cheap. If you bulk sell, you can charge more

[vagrant topaz]

What game is this?

[junior oyster]

Tetris connected

[twilit mountain]

These are very high end bossing builds tbf, there's still plenty of dedicated bossers who aren't instant kill builds.

[warped wren]

Yeah some people do it on Walmart builds because they're just mechanically good

But if you're a dedicated bosser in week 1, you make insane money and upgrade pretty rapidly

[twilit mountain]

Yeah that's true. I took to day 9 to kill all bosses. But I've carried multiple people so I'll take the W

Even now farming UElder is pretty good money just by nature of unidentified eyeballs being like 4.5div

[warped wren]

Afaik UShaper and UUElder are basically the only two Ubers that are "worth" farming about a week or two in because with them you can't lose money

With the others you very much can

[copper pawn]

Am I the only one not knowing wtf them pro players talking about when they say doing wisp maps?

[stable shore]

FF14 bros, do you think i have enough time in an evening to complete the 8 first circles of the pandemonium ?

My FC is doing 9-12 circles tomorrow and i have nothing u locked yet

[twilit mountain]

Jump into wildwoods, stack a fuck ton of blue and yellow, hop out, slay map. Yummy loot. My best result so far has been 4 divs in one map.

[faint mauve]

its from hrishi who made ruth, he plays hc

[warped wren]

And he said every single dev plays HC?

Clip / screenshot?

That's fucking terrible if true

[faint mauve]

did i say every single dev ?

[warped wren]

That's what I asked you

[junior oyster]

No but yes

[faint mauve]

i typed "devs" but i didnt state every single one lol

its on the podcast interview with hrishi on forever exiled anyway

[junior oyster]

I know but it was worded in a way it felt you meant all

[faint mauve]

no

i think you need to do the normal tiers first which shouldnt take too long

[stable shore]

yeah i need to do circles one by one

but i'm wondering if i can do all 8 tonight

i'm doing my dailies rn because i need to upgrade my scythe before tomorrow

so tight schedule

[junior oyster]

Sounds like a fun job

[faint mauve]

because it is lul

i have to call in sick if i cant make it for the raid

[faint mauve]

you doing fresh prog with the group or they already done it

[junior oyster]

FF14 is an mmo right?

Or was that 16

[faint mauve]

14 mmo yes

once the group are experienced enough to clear the 4 savage tiers in one sitting its smooth sailing

but .... still gotta stick to the schedule

[stable shore]

they already done it

so i'm not worried for the 9-12 circle part

[faint mauve]

lucky you

[stable shore]

i looked up the 9 circle boss and it looks easy

so even with random i wouldn't be too worried

[faint mauve]

if you are joining an experienced then it wont be so bad cause its only you for example who needs to practice

[stable shore]

but i'm guessing it gets harder and harder

[faint mauve]

not really, sometimes an earlier savage tier is harder than the next

[stable shore]

oh

[faint mauve]

depends on your brain and how you wrap your head around the mechanics

[stable shore]

well i guess it sounds fine then

i was expecting it to be more brutal

but the 8 first circles, i have to clear them with random

on my side

it's considered "normal" content so it should be like any trial i did so far

[faint mauve]

yah

sometimes it helps you get slightly more familiar with the savage version

[stable shore]

i'm almost done with my dailes

[faint mauve]

sometimes it doesnt

[warped wren]

It's not something you farm technically, more like get giga lucky with. That said, run synth maps with the synth map nodes on atlas tree and pray really hard lol

Maybe sacrifice a goat in the name of Chris Wilson on a New Zealand full moon and bathe your POB in its blood

[stable shore]

circles boss are separate right ?

in the sense i can look up the strategy of one, then queue again for the next one after i look up his strategy too

[faint mauve]

your team might have the strategy already so dont need to look up incase they have a different approach

raid macros are usually for pub savage

[stable shore]

i mean i don't really wanna go blind either

with randoms i doubt they'll explain the strategy

if we die maybe but they'll just rush

and that's assuming anyone in the team did it already

[faint mauve]

err just ask your group ?

[stable shore]

i'll ask them but i prefer looking up quickly what the boss does

not strategy, i just want to know what his abilities are

[faint mauve]

sure look it up theres youtube videos

NA/EU/JP raid meta can have different approaches

[stable shore]

okay, first boss is extremely easy

[faint mauve]

normal raids are easy

[stable shore]

normal are all first 8 right ?

wait i'm an idiot

there is a normal for all 12 circles

then there is savage from 9 to 12 only

[faint mauve]

theres savage from 1 - 12

its only released as a series of 4 raids each time

[stable shore]

oh shit, yeah i'm not doing 12 circles just like that in an evening

i won't be ready in time

waaaaay too much queue

it is what it is, it's ok i need more time to prepare for savage anyway, a lil bit of training in extreme trials would be nice

i finished upgrading all my crafted gear to 650

stats aren't looking too bad

[near hedge]

idk why he said no. i did all of normal in an evening

[stable shore]

that would be doable

if it wasn't for queue time

so far i did 1 boss / 12

[near hedge]

holy fuck lol

isnt it also in the middle of the night over there

[stable shore]

well i thought it wasn't SO late

i started a bit before 1am

maybe that was a mistake do get my scythe done first

especially since i'll replace it with zeronium extreme scythe later

[near hedge]

what dc are you?

[faint mauve]

its kinda late right now queuing on 1 - 8 ppl dont really do it

may as well raise a party finder

[stable shore]

dc ?

[near hedge]

datacenter

[near hedge]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[stable shore]

light in europe

you're right i should just make a partyfinder to go from 1 to 12

[faint mauve]

then your gonna also spam esc and skip all the cutscenes

the raid's story is pretty mid anyway i skipped half of it haha

[near hedge]

weird. i thought that was the raiding eu one

[near hedge]

lol yeah i skipped all that shit. i skip all story on my main, and only watch cutscenes if im playing with my gf

[stable shore]

so far the raid story indeed sounds whatever

themis looks hot, that's the only thing that stood out

[near hedge]

all i got out of it was this was some void prison thing where someones doing experiments on random shit.

[stable shore]

oh, apparently themis is edilibus

i think you can just summerize it by "monsters escaped, capture them again plz, and also kill the bad guy behind it"

[near hedge]

sounds about right

[stable shore]

the first boss was suprisingly easy though

i looked up the guide for the second one, it looks slightly harder but still ok

[near hedge]

theyre all easy tbh

[stable shore]

yeah there isn't much to avoid

i don't think i could go blind either

since there are some things you can't predict

[near hedge]

i went blind on all of em, and only one of them wasnt intuitive

[stable shore]

maybe i just lack experience in ff14 raid to do that

for exemple the second boss is mostly predictable, but the mechanic with makes the red arrow cover half the arena isn't something i can predict

like sure i'll get the direction, but not the fact it covers so much ground

rest is basic and i saw it everywhere

same for the first boss, the fact you must go on a pillar with the bottom stone of an opposite colour to the one assigned to you isn't very clear either

[near hedge]

its on a pattern for that. so you can predict it coming beforehand

that one we did wipe a few times on the first time i did it because of that stupid shit

[stable shore]

maybe but i still think it's not out of normal to not predict it if you never saw it

stuyding

[warped wren]

[stable shore]

brain is frying a little

[twilit mountain]

@stable shore roommate's dad got me a present

[stable shore]

what did you get ?

[twilit mountain]

He got me a pair of ASTRO A40s

I'd been wanting a pair for years but just could not afford them

[stable shore]

nice ! you didn't have a good pair before that ?

good audio quality and comfort is so important, that's a really nice gift

[twilit mountain]

Nah, just a pair of $60 SteelSeries that I got to tide me over til I could get a good one.... almost 3 years ago

[stable shore]

i see, that's gonna be a insane difference then

[twilit mountain]

These are, by far, the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.

[stable shore]

headset is typically the only peripheric i'm willing to invest a ton on

because it's always worth it

i got a logitech headset too, the pro x 2 lightspeed

very good

all my computer peripherics are logitech tbh

[twilit mountain]

I have a G502 for my mouse. I've used two different "nice" mice, one was a Corsair... something. Then I had one other G502 that eventually broke.

[stable shore]

G502 the safest bet in gaming

[twilit mountain]

It's pretty comfy, fits my hand fairly well

[stable shore]

yeah it's really good, i got the "upgraded" version wich honestly feels the same

i wish it was a tiny bit bigger, but it's probably the best mouse i can find anyway

[twilit mountain]

I would have paid for the G502 Hero or whatever but the base one was on sale for like $45 so.... lmao

[stable shore]

it's a good deal, base is good enough

for christmas i originally asked for nothing, because my family has better to spend on. but since they wanted to buy something anyway without asking me, i ended up finding something

so i asked a bag to put in the rock climbing powder thing you put on fingers (idk the english name) shaped in pochita from chainsaw man

it honestly looks fantastic on the picture, so i can't wait to receive it

[solar tiger]

I have a $10 3 button Logitech mouse that’s built like a brick that I’ve been using daily for like 5 years

Actually 7 years

I can’t understand people spending $50 every so often to replace their mouse when the clicker stops clicking

[copper pawn]

how do you make your map device look like this?

[stable shore]

well i often have to rebuy a mouse

because bird eating cables

[solar tiger]

Lmao

[stable shore]

well now i just buy mouse that can unplug cable

that's actually why i spent 120 bucks isntead of 60 for my logitech mouse

i could have bought the base version that's the same for my purpose, but the 120 bucks one i can remove the cable and only change the cable if nescessary

there's one issue though, with a mouse i had, you could change the button on the sides sicen they had magnet for you to swap them. that was pretty cool until my parrot learnt she could do remove them but now i changed to a mouse mouse with side buttons i can't remove anymore, except my parrot still think she can remove them anyway

gotta be carefull

[stable shore]

complete a 4 ways

4 ways = domain of the timeless conflict with 4 emblems

[copper pawn]

I'm trying to find the place to initiate that quest

[eternal sky]

anything that spawns a shitload of rares is good with affliction tbh

everythings basicly profitable aso

[stable shore]

there is no quest

put 4 emblems in your map device, complete the encounter and you unlock it

it will unlock itself iirc, nothing to pick up or stuff

[copper pawn]

I don't have the emblems, how to get them

even the poe wiki is confusing about this

[eternal sky]

ritual abyss legion

[stable shore]

Complete legions enconter in maps

[eternal sky]

ritual is giga jacked

with affliction

since u resummon them up to 4 times

/3 /2 /1

[stable shore]

Chest and rare mobs will give you most of the splinters you'll find

100 splinters = 1 emblem

[eternal sky]

honestly the shit thing about legion

it legit takes what

like 45 points

[stable shore]

Then you can enhance it with pts

Or you can straight up buy the emblems wich is what i would do ngl

You need 4 and 3 are dirt cheap iirc

[eternal sky]

yea

all of them are basicly dirt

[stable shore]

All of them now ?

Maraketh and templar used to be a bit expensive

[eternal sky]

yea like maraketh is only like sub 20c

[stable shore]

Oh

[eternal sky]

templars like 30+

some guys got 17 up for 15c per

[stable shore]

Oh, then mataketh + all other cheap 3 should be roughly 20c

I'm missing the fifth one, it's templar, maraketh, vaal, karui and ...?

[eternal sky]

thats all of them no 5th

lol

[stable shore]

Eternal no ?

There is a fifth one

[eternal sky]

eternal is templar

[stable shore]

No, there are really 5 emblems lmao

[eternal sky]

oh

[stable shore]

White, orange, red, yellow, green

[eternal sky]

yea it is eternal

[stable shore]

So i guess judging by league price, go eternal, vaal, karui and maraketh

You might even get your money back

Or more

[eternal sky]

idk what keik is playing but

if its srs

he's gonna get jack shit

for rewards

[stable shore]

Right, maybe if he focus on boss ?

He could get away with 1 or 2 jewels

[eternal sky]

srs is probs the worst build for legion

ngl

[stable shore]

With boss dps you can still get jewel so he can at least make it even

No profit sadly

[eternal sky]

legion is just soo busted

your entire tree can just be legion every other mech blocked

run legion on map device sextant and scarab

and giga profit

[stable shore]

I wish there was a keystone to stack legion pylone and merge them all in 1 giant one

[eternal sky]

GIGA LEGION

[stable shore]

Not by numbers nescesseraly cuz it wouldn't fit

But like if it's juiced, everything is magic/rares

With several generals

[eternal sky]

man too many builds

to play this league

blinkarrow buld

penanace brand build

i got archmage volcano crema qued up

etcetcetc

not enough time

[stable shore]

If i ever have time to play poe i'll legit go ssf double strike gaming

Cuz double strike of momentum sounds actually fun

[eternal sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za-tkwxCmhY

soo hot brother

[stable shore]

Wild strike of extreme is giga op

[eternal sky]

eh its alright

[stable shore]

It simply makes the skill viable

[eternal sky]

its literally just rakiatas dance

[copper pawn]

no I don't aim for any reward there, just to unlock 5 slot map device

[eternal sky]

u use rakiatas dance and you make every

melee skill viable

you can use with that sword

[stable shore]

Even chain hook ?

Nothing will ever make that clunky ass skill viable

[eternal sky]

rakiatas is 2h

[stable shore]

Damage can be good

[eternal sky]

chain hook requires 1h

[stable shore]

Oh

[eternal sky]

but yea unironically rakitatas would make it good

you just stack frenzies like normal

get a bunch of % flat damage

[stable shore]

Well even if you had 100m dps on chain hook for low budget no one would touch it

There is a ultra slow animation when you hook something

It's what kills the skill for me

[eternal sky]

its criminal that

rakiatas

is only like 40c

[stable shore]

If it was consecrated path fast, i'd genuinely play it

[stable shore]

Melee economy

Even the strongest melee items are worth nothing

See the saviour

Legit OP item on paper, assuming melee was op too

[eternal sky]

saviour is worth melee

well worth money

like 3.5div+

[stable shore]

Ooooh right it got buffed no ?

[eternal sky]

no

lmfao

[stable shore]

It used to be like 10c

[stable shore]

It did

[eternal sky]

steel skils are meta

[stable shore]

Pdps higher now

[eternal sky]

soo saviour is meta

[stable shore]

pdps actually made it more expensive without still skills impact

[eternal sky]

having 2 clones shooting out splitting steel is broken

shrug

doesnt really matter

its w.e skills

[stable shore]

It used to be like 250 pdps when well rolled

[eternal sky]

that are good

that can abuse saviour

if there are no skills that are good with saviour

then yea its dogshit

[stable shore]

Issue is they killed it a while ago

For strike skills

[eternal sky]

shrug

if every build was just para saviour

would get pboring

[stable shore]

They disabled the ability for clone to target additional enemies due to server performance issue

Wasn't technicaly meant to be a nerf

[stable shore]

Perhaps, but it's legit what made dual wield viable

[eternal sky]

also voidforge is 25div currently

melee meta truly

[stable shore]

You get to dual wield for not too expensive

[twilit mountain]

Para Saviour is still one of the most fun weapon combos in the game tbh

[stable shore]

With 2 rare one handers you must pay double the amount of a good two handers

[stable shore]

Agree

It was mostly a viable endgame combo for dual wield without being in the 200-300ex range

[twilit mountain]

I say this as someone who really doesn't like attack builds much, that combo is just so silly to watch and play with that it makes it worth doing to me every so often

[stable shore]

It used to be 50ex before that additional target nerf

Even end of league

[eternal sky]

flicker andies in shambles

[stable shore]

Early was lkke 100ex

[stable shore]

Meta was double strike with it

First time and last time i ever saw double strike in poe ninja ladder

You used to put flicker strike for clear in fortify support influenced boots

[twilit mountain]

Remember when ex were the standard currency and you could farm harbies for them?

[stable shore]

Then DS in 6 links

[eternal sky]

remember when ex was useless

and you couldnt slam anything

because it was too expensive too

yea i really enjoyed that

i must say

[twilit mountain]

I still don't slam them because there's no fucking point to it for me

[eternal sky]

ur fucked

[stable shore]

I do agree i prefer ex that way

I slam a lot

[eternal sky]

cluster jewel crafting

etc

3 stat jewels

u can legit buy a 5c jewel

turn it into a 1div jewel

in a single click

[twilit mountain]

Don't give a shit, I'm a trade gamer. I'll just fucking buy it.

[eternal sky]

that does not matter

at all

in the slightest

[twilit mountain]

It does to me lol

[eternal sky]

it doesnt tho

[twilit mountain]

Ok

[stable shore]

Mod pool is beyond fucked, i don't enjoy ex slamming for that reason

But i slam rather often still

[eternal sky]

i slam gear

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mod slot open might as well just slam it

[stable shore]

Same, but i still hate it lmao

I just do it more

[twilit mountain]

Poggers gonna go slam life on kill on my 7div wand base!!!

[eternal sky]

exalt slamming is too free

truly

[stable shore]

You can reason thinking a trash mod is better than nothing, but a bad mod genuinely angers me, i rather have nothing

I talk from fact since in ruthless we don't have bench

So it's ex or nothing

And failing a slam felt so fcking horrible

[twilit mountain]

Until you slam stun recovery on something and just go

[stable shore]

You'd think with ruthless low standard for gear you would land something nice often

But no

[eternal sky]

tbh i bet weightings are also fucked

in ruthless

[twilit mountain]

I still support the idea of high level bases not being able to roll extreme low level mods

[stable shore]

Because some stat are just bad on every build in existence

[eternal sky]

chris just has like

[stable shore]

And exist to bloat mod pool

[eternal sky]

reflect 5 damage

to like 20000 weight

[stable shore]

Hot take, stun and block recovery should stay

But buffed

[eternal sky]

also yea idk how i feel about

getting t10 flat cold

on my ilvl 86 wep

[stable shore]

The 1000% stun and block recovery jewel showed it could be a good stat

But values on gear are too small

[eternal sky]

ive never seen block recovery

actually be a thing

[stable shore]

It is a thing no ?

[eternal sky]

like whats that stat even do

[faint mauve]

weightings are the same in ruthless

[stable shore]

That jewel is roughly a stun immunity

[copper pawn]

I guess I make some profit for this

[eternal sky]

ye the stun immune is cool and all

but wtf is block recovery

[stable shore]

Make you spend less time innactive during stun

[faint mauve]

i picked up a nice crimson jewel today was perfect for me until i slammed corrupt

[stable shore]

You don't, or at least not nescesseraly

[eternal sky]

like ive played glads before and never noticed blocking was stunning me

[stable shore]

They are priced randomly

[eternal sky]

ig you do get block recov

[stable shore]

People just bank their jewel in bulk at 1d cuz too lazy to check if it's good

[eternal sky]

off tree

wait its legit 3 nodes with block recov

120% from 3 points

[stable shore]

It's legit a good stat

[copper pawn]

that's true lol, selling anywhere from 20c to 20d

[stable shore]

But you need big amount of it

[eternal sky]

like bloodnotch + immutable

is def broken

like

unethical combo

actually alot of jewels now are just fucked

[stable shore]

I wish i could get an immutable in ssf ngl

[eternal sky]

ancestral visions is legit 6 points

for ailment immune

[stable shore]

When i play a right side build i'd suck dicks for one

[eternal sky]

on ranger

and duelist ig

[stable shore]

This jewel solves so many thing

[eternal sky]

they have released alot of jewels

that just solve problems

stormshroud ancestral visions

[stable shore]

Yeah haha, i just wish they were ssf friendly

[twilit mountain]

Stormshroud sweeeeeep

[stable shore]

In trade their prices are reasonable

[twilit mountain]

Stormshroud is like 60c this league

It is insane

[stable shore]

But in ssf, might as well pretend they don't exist and that's very frustrating due to how good they are

[eternal sky]

yea visage is insanely cheap too

[stable shore]

Ancestral vision + immutable force on a ranger

Only a distant dream in ssf sadly

[twilit mountain]

I bought my Stormshroud while they were over a divine still and it still felt like a fucking robbery lmfao

[stable shore]

Paid it 15d

It used to be a bit more expensive

[twilit mountain]

Forgot I'm super far from the router and gonna get massive ping spikes

[stable shore]

You are too tanky to die to lags

[twilit mountain]

Nah

I am leveling a ranger

Literally zero defenses

[stable shore]

Oh

Lmao

[eternal sky]

I hate state of defensives btw

[stable shore]

Then it will be spicy

[eternal sky]

Use coil + taste of hate and phys taken as helm

[stable shore]

How so

[eternal sky]

Xdd guys

Its soo ass

Trying to get phys max hit

[stable shore]

It is OP, but there are so many defensive layers to pick from nowadays so i like defence system atm

[eternal sky]

Atm

Like phys max hit is soo miserable

[stable shore]

And it's not like you need absolute immortality either

[twilit mountain]

Dodging lightning mirages at 430 ping randomly

[stable shore]

I hate lighting mirage

They are janky to dodge

Not that i notice them in std, i'm talking with my ssf/ruthless char

[eternal sky]

Ive been playing with defiance of destiny

None qualited like

31% roll

And its crazy how good that ammy is

Like disturbingly good

[twilit mountain]

Fuck yeah, I hit 2500 ping for a couple seconds

[eternal sky]

Like deias if you want to live majority of hits

Just get a 35% dod

[twilit mountain]

Can't

[stable shore]

I was suprised at how dirtcheap it was

[eternal sky]

Qual to 20% for 42%

[stable shore]

Maybe the best price/power ratio item

[eternal sky]

Low rolls are dirt cheap yea

[twilit mountain]

I'm an MFer, I'm literally bandaid-ing my stats with an amulet

[eternal sky]

I used a divine for 31%

From a 25

but yea using DoD on my PF with lightcoil recov from life flask

% life on flask use etc

feels really nice

but yea idk

i just dont like how its use eternal damnation + loreweave

[twilit mountain]

Damn. Avarius with 600 ping is hard.

[eternal sky]

or like fourth vow + vaal jewel

for your other /real/ tanky options

ive been doing t16 maps since 75 only got 12 deaths think like 9 of em were in maps

almost lvl 90

[tawny sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnZARbFSfo

[eternal sky]

i also bought this for 1div

really sick jewel makes mobs just run past me and slap my ballistas

[copper pawn]

I thought this shit sells for 1c, how come awakened poe shows like this?

[eternal sky]

the 15% roll

is what matters

oh its corrupted

yea its 15% roll with block chance

[twilit mountain]

God fuckin dammit... DireGray just got a casual MB drop from an Alva. Not temple. Not MF. Not cards. Not even high qual map. Just fucking random from an Alva encounter and he isn't even specced into Alva. I hate this game.

[copper pawn]

it's the day the stars align for him

don't even know whether this quiver is good or trash, awakened doesn't help either

[warped wren]

I am so annoyed at myself

I knew I shouldn''t have attempted affliction juicing with a basic TS char

actual dogshit waste of time

24 maps attempted, and I think failed a bit less than half

[copper pawn]

lol, 5k chaos after 24 maps, what else do you want lol

[shadow sundial]

i'm done juicing T16s with wisps until i get to like L98 or so. i need a few more skill points

[warped wren]

with an investment of 1700 chaos, that's utter dogshit

and I have nobody to blame but myself

[mossy thorn]

Some of those are long plays too

What are you hoping to get with reliquary?

[copper pawn]

oh, I forgot the prep cost
still, 1700c investment to get back 4200c, that kind of profit irl is more than enough to start ww3

[warped wren]

got a bunch of uniques off it. I got UI, some uniques that I corrupted into good implicits like +1 socketed on Greed's etc.

also it was cheaper than Gilded Div kek

I also managed to FINALLY get a well-rolled Ventor's. Doodoo life roll but res and quant are amazing

so we take that

[mossy thorn]

Yeah idk seems fine to me

I've been doing abyss most of this league and it's definitely good

[copper pawn]

really regret why I didn't know this farming method earlier sad

the only issue is that rare mobs hit me like dad hits son lol

[mossy thorn]

Fwiw I think breach is also good

And maybe less horrifying, abyss mobs just go stealthed and immune and it can be annoying

Abyss also scales with multiple proj and chain on the map

[copper pawn]

can you horticraft multiple time on an item?
like, can I do multiple times the white socket crafting?

[warped wren]

it's such a nightmare with multi proj

those spires shit out rares all over the place

it's great if your build can handle it, not so great otherwise

[mossy thorn]

Yeah I'm playing minions and while I was still farming maps my minions were ok. Me less so occasionally

[copper pawn]

I'm playing srs and it's me that can't handle shit while my minions live like nothing matters to them
prolly need to get lightning coil

I guess 85% suppress chance not too bad

[faint mauve]

git gud

[copper pawn]

nah, more like git rich

[shadow sundial]

85% suppress might as well be 0% suppress

think about it like Crit Avoid in LE

[faint mauve]

85% suppression is huge

[copper pawn]

lol, that's saying 99% evasion may as well be 0%

[faint mauve]

but if you get one shotted just because of the 15% its not gonna help you

[shadow sundial]

when its a matter of taking 2-2.2x damage from a hit, then yes it feels turbo bad man

[copper pawn]

if I readjust my spectres I can still get 100%, but man, 1 defensive spectre gone

[faint mauve]

if you dont get oneshotted if you fail the roll its very good to have

but getting 100% suppression isnt hard in standard

maybe even an eater implicit on boots can bring it to the 90s haha

[copper pawn]

if you're defense oriented, of course it's super easy to 100% suppress

[shadow sundial]

you can get 40%+ just from your three charms for not that much

[copper pawn]

only 30%, needs the onslaught charm

[shadow sundial]

well, im running the onslaught spectre

[copper pawn]

yeah, that's why I say if I change to coil, I have to replace 1 defensive spectre with forest warrior

and still need to fix lightning res, gosh, so much effort

[faint mauve]

with my molten shell on lul

[copper pawn]

can you bench craft +horticraft on the same item, or horticraft multiple times?

[shadow sundial]

horti doesnt lock anything out

you can overwrite a bench craft with another one, but max of 1 at any time (unless you metamod it)

[faint mauve]

you gotta be more specific on which harvest craft you mean

you need an empty suffix/prefix slot to benchcraft anyway

[copper pawn]

2 examples:
bench craft, then horticraft swap 1 res to another res
horticraft multiple times, for example the white socket recipe

[copper pawn]

how do you make these drop?

[junior oyster]

Wait for the deli to end

Or click on the button above your skills

[copper pawn]

no button though

and I'm already done with the map

[junior oyster]

Is it a deli buffed map?

[copper pawn]

there's a deli wormhole appeared right when I started the map

[junior oyster]

Might be a bug

[junior oyster]

I don't know how people in tetris connected can play at speeds 9+ but damn I struggled like crazy (still lost ofc)

[junior oyster]

<@&1082357055484071997> Spam

[copper pawn]

when you put portal cast on death in weapon swap, does it activate?

[stable shore]

i haven't tested but i'd say no

logically you should have the weapons equipped when you die for it to happen

[junior oyster]

No

[copper pawn]

not sure if it's just me but buy coil, make it 6L and resell it is stupidly profitable

[junior oyster]

You are making it 6l with fusings?

[copper pawn]

yes, 5c for coil, 2 div for 1500 fusing, then sell for 3.3 div, was what I did earlier today

could have value added even further by using 3 blue craft and horticraft to make it the right socket colours, but I don't trust my shitty luck

[warped wren]

[twilit mountain]

This is basically flipping, there's a lot of ways to do it. Generally people who aren't able to get consistent income from something else do this to make their way up to things.

[warped wren]

<@&1082357055484071997>

[twilit mountain]

@hardy crane if you're around there's been a few of these

[hardy crane]

sadly I dont have mod privs

[twilit mountain]

Ah damn.

[hardy crane]

I can delete it but thats it

[junior oyster]

Better than nothing

Would be appreciated :)

[twilit mountain]

Fair enough. The CMs don't seem to be around today :P

[junior oyster]

Haha lol

[twilit mountain]

It's stupid common, to the point it's annoying tbh

[junior oyster]

I've had that happen a few times

[hardy crane]

holiday weekend, lots of traveling

[junior oyster]

I don't know how these people mae em

[twilit mountain]

Every other hideout I trade in is that

[twilit mountain]

Makes sense. Can't say I blame em. I'm not traveling but I am going out for the day at least.

[hardy crane]

I pinged peeps internally

[twilit mountain]

(Gotta take off, basically here)

[mortal dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/salt-bae-ban-banned-gif-10497201

Sorry about that guys - year our mods are out for the Holidays

[hardy crane]

rofl A+ gifing

[warped wren]

Pretty sure fubgun's doing it on his multi mirror TS

[copper pawn]

Multi mirror is the keyword

Meanwhile I'm having fun doing the downgraded wisp juice maps, only abyss and the 4 polished scarabs, no sextant

[junior oyster]

Wait mb and hh are currently around the same price o.O

[shadow sundial]

i just lost all six portals, and my spectres, to the stupid maven Forgotten arena

[junior oyster]

At least you didn't lose your guardian eh

[shadow sundial]

fucking degen pools and shit flying everywhere

[junior oyster]

Did you buff it?

[shadow sundial]

i ran it as rare but the mods werent terrible

[junior oyster]

What were the mods?

[shadow sundial]

i rerolled it a few times to get something sane

shit i forget, and the map is gone so i cant check

[junior oyster]

If it was for your atlas progress I would do it white

forgotten is one thing but feared is another

[shadow sundial]

forgotten doesnt give progression though right?

[junior oyster]

The four bosses that you collect?

[shadow sundial]

right, the distant memory maps

[junior oyster]

Pretty sure it does

[shadow sundial]

the ones remaining are Venarius, Shaper (about to do that), Maven, and Feared

[junior oyster]

Yea that's for unlocking favs

But you get a skillpoint for atlas tree

[shadow sundial]

thats been done for awhile

[junior oyster]

Ah ok that's fine then

[shadow sundial]

and the synthesis maps dont count towards that

i think Forgotten maven trial is just for splinters and loot i guess

i paid 120c total for the four syn maps, and i lost a 100c spectre... so meh

[junior oyster]

Nvm I guess I confused that with the breach stuff

[warped wren]

each of the special Maven invites gives 1 atlas skill point upon completion

Forgotten, Hidden, Formed, Twisted, Feared, Elderslayers

[shadow sundial]

oh ok

[warped wren]

and you get 1 atlas skill point per normal Maven boss crucible, from 3 to 10ways

frankly, the fucking rippiest invite outside of Feared is the Hidden

Breach bosses with Maven amping hit hard

last league I did a LOT of Formed farming, and some Elderslayer farming and it was significantly easier than Hidden

[junior oyster]

For some reason I thought Sirus was one of the feared but thankfully that wasn't the case

Still Atziri was more dangerous for me than any others

After I buffed the invite lol

Massive aoe...

[shadow sundial]

what does this mean? i can run partial maven atlas invites, scaling it from 3,4,etc bosses each? and i get an atlas point for each variation?

like, make sure that is a different X/10 each time?

the wiki says this (all of which i've done)

i've done everything for points except the six special invites (the 4 boss ones)

and im running those fuckers as white or carefully rolled blues next time 😛

[junior oyster]

I see that Raxx is actually enjoying PoE. I'm glad. It's definitely waay better than D4

[shadow sundial]

oh wait nope, im missing the Maven fight itself i guess

[junior oyster]

And some of the other invites

[shadow sundial]

yeah its all the 4-boss special ones

[junior oyster]

Yea I was right lol. I got confused twice

[warped wren]

when you're progressing the Maven questline, she'll ask you to witness map bosses. First 3, then 4, then 5, then 6, then 10. Each time you witness the requisite number, she drops an invite to a crucible fight, and that fight gives an atlas skill point

after you've done a 10way for the first time, you don't get more atlas skillpoints this way

[shadow sundial]

yeah i have it all done except Maven fight, and then the six maven invitations fane snipped

[warped wren]

I haven't bothered with invites either yet this league

bought carries for the Uelder and Maven stones

I could probably do Formed / Twisted / Forgotten fairly easily but eh, don't need the points rn

[junior oyster]

I just saw Raxx get a foiled HH wtf

Streamer luck

https://clips.twitch.tv/ExquisiteAstuteBananaPhilosoraptor-Njm31Pcz9o5OPhjj

[mental talon]

Yeah I just saw it happen lmao

[junior oyster]

And it's an upgrade for him loool

Meanwhile I get moltwurm or some shit

[twilit mountain]

@lethal bane @stable shore pins (and new hat)

[lethal bane]

Very cool!

[stable shore]

the purple rose looks sick af

very cool pins and hat

[stable shore]

ok i'm done with the normal pandaemonium

now i unlocked savage anabaseios

i think i'll look for an extreme zeromus farming party first, to get some training and also a cool scythe

[stable shore]

i want to make a party for zeromus extreme

should i pick training, since it's basiclaly what it is if i aim to kill the boss ?

maybe weird question but will it doom me with trash player who come here to die over and over, or i'll get people who actually want to learn and kill it

just need to know the "weight" of those words to the community

[near hedge]

just do what everyone else does and put it up as a full clear while knowing none of the mechanics

[stable shore]

is that fine to do that or it's "toxic" ?

i learnt the guide and learnt the pattern of every visceral whirl, but i'll likely die a lot of times still

[near hedge]

idk how serious eu players are. but na its pretty toxic, but doesnt seem to stop anyone lol

[stable shore]

i went with that

i'll litteraly never find a party this late in the night

i'll just try for 10 minutes to see if there is any chance, then quit the game for the night

if i could at least train for an hour without a kill i'd be happy

my main concern is that mechanic, it's a little tricky

but there are 3 actual patern to recognize, and i think i pretty much understood how that works

[copper pawn]

Guardian I don't think is very expensive. Endgame spectres can be 12 div upwards

Hmm unless it's also some super endgame guardian setup

[twilit mountain]

Big fan, I like. The rose came with the hat, it's a plaid-purple flat cap.

[copper pawn]

Interesting, I see people farming wisp juice at t7 and still rain drops, some even got mirror, is t7 better than t16?

[faint mauve]

depends on player goals, build etc theres no straight answer

im doing wisp juicing at t14-16 on ruthless so im sure its not that bad in standard

[copper pawn]

Maybe I'm not collecting enough wisp so I don't feel the impact of being overwhelmed yet

[faint mauve]

if your just doing rare t16 + wisps its not "hard"

you'd wanna go for deli orb maps to get insane drops haha

[twilit mountain]

Odds are they've got some bonkers investment on those T7 maps that make them faster than T16s while remaining lucrative, combine that and they make more money doing those than T16s. This basically does not apply to the average player.

[copper pawn]

The way I understand the real reason got something to do with abyss behaviour at t7 vs t16, something about t7 summoning much more monsters

[copper pawn]

Normally I follow tuna's guide, that is, the 4 scarabs, abyss map, sextant, I'm missing the last part though, wonder if I need all 4 voidstones to get that 50% increased monster sextant

I'll readdress all my ghastly jewels, then try to push for real efficiency, hopefully a few div per run

[faint mauve]

you can also just do whats fun for you

[copper pawn]

It's fun, I hate doing boss, being a mechanical noob, clearing mobs is what I like

And I was also doing abyss extensively even before knowing about this strat

The only struggle now is that jungle valley map doesn't drop often enough

[faint mauve]

imo you should at least try to get the 4 voidstones yourself

[copper pawn]

Yeah, I would try to do that myself at least once

But it's really tedious to farm fragments I think I'll buy them fragments lol

[faint mauve]

otherwise you'll only be good to play marketboard op and you'll suck at actually ssf and playing the game

[copper pawn]

I'm the strange one here, I like making builds that's as op as meta builds. If a build is weak, I never look back again, whether it's my own build or not.

I like challenge, but not by gimping myself with a weak build

[faint mauve]

ppl can copy the best build but still cant get 4 voidstones anyway

[copper pawn]

Btw, what scion build with 50d budget that will also destroy wisp juice maps?

Things like quite like about this guardian srs is that it eats abyss for breakfast

[faint mauve]

dunno i dont think like that

i review / make a build on pob before league, plan my strategy etc and go from there

[junior oyster]

Make a poison srs necro ;)

[copper pawn]

poison srs is actually considerably worse for juice farming, it's much better build for bossing, according to my limited research

and no real reason to play another srs build

[junior oyster]

Maybe but witches are showing up at the top in the srs builds right now :)

[copper pawn]

it is, but I hate bossing

also, it's my plan since long ago to play a scion next

[junior oyster]

Yea fair

[copper pawn]

generally I don't like dot builds in arpg, I hate to see the wasted dps

[junior oyster]

I love dot builds especially in grim dawn

They are insane lol

I dunno about poe ofc

[copper pawn]

another thing I don't like about dot builds is the backtracking to collect loots

[junior oyster]

Poison srs dot build is/was instant

Like trash mobs just insta poof

And that's for basically most if not all dot builds in poe especially after investment

(I think)

[copper pawn]

the most godlike minion wand I ever seen in this game, I guess

[turbid trail]

If you want good build that can mf t16 maps I can recommend Gorathas Caustic Arrow/manaforged arrows pathfinder

Build is insane

Has good damage and is nearly immortal

And that discussion about t7 vs t16 is that t7 maps cannot spam depths, so you always have spire

[copper pawn]

ah, no wonder

so t7 > t16?

[faint mauve]

i have no idea how to price this paradoxica in ruthless haha

[copper pawn]

actually no, I still prefer jungle valley and its fortunate drop

[turbid trail]

Im running t16s

Jungle valley, really enjoy steady stream of exalts (the scout) and divines (fortunate)

Abyssal depths are not that common

Maybe 1 per 10 abysses

• altars are big difference

If you can run t16 as fast as you run t7 you should run t16 in my opinion

I'm not playing trade so have no idea how it translate to divines per hour

[faint mauve]

imagine running low tiers

[copper pawn]

when you use sextant on voidstone, does it matter if you have 2 or 4 voidstones?

[copper pawn]

lol, fuck shaper, killed 1 of my spectres, not an expensive one but still
guess I'll unlock voidstones with chaos and do the bosses myself later with another build

[twilit mountain]

The only thing that matters is grabbing the atlas passive that gives you an extra use per sextant. Having 4 is nice because... you know, more stuff at once, but it doesn't affect them.

[stable shore]

Go with 200 alch for an ele pen + attack speed one

If regular phys + AS, i'd say 60 alch if no impale

And 90 alch if impale

imo

200 alch is what i put as a bounty for bis ele pen one when i was looking for one

Since i unveiled many paradoxica and watched the market a lot, i am somewhat of a paradoxica expert in ruthless

If veiled go with 40 alch

[daring shore]

dot builds have a damage cap of 39 mil or something

but if you hit that

anything will perish under a second so its irrelevant anyway

[twilit mountain]

It's like 36.7m or something? It's weird

[daring shore]

Still doesnt change the point

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, I know, I'm just contributing

[daring shore]

You are erasing the entire bloodline of whatever that dot was targeted at

[twilit mountain]

Real

[turbid trail]

There are reasons to go over dot cap if you can. Uber bosses or even if you are not doing them with more damage you will hit dot cap faster so build will feel better

[junior oyster]

Holy shi... he exists

[tawny sand]

who

[junior oyster]

He is/was a youtuber around the same time as people like pewdiepie, smosh etc.

This was his channel but doesn't post on here any more https://www.youtube.com/@ryanhiga

[junior oyster]

<@&1082357055484071997> spam

[warped wren]

Hit a max rolled Rain of Splinters

[copper pawn]

man, was intending to play fulcrum, but seeing the weapon increasing price by 2 div overnight, I run away
animate weapon also looks fun, but does it run well in clearing and wisp juice?

[faint mauve]

so i unveil first ?

[stable shore]

up to you honestly

just know a bad paradoxica will not sell

even if you underprice it as hell

[faint mauve]

which one

[stable shore]

ele pen

[faint mauve]

2nd one

went with 19% double damage lul

[copper pawn]

I know this is a stupid question, but atlas progression is account wise or char wise?

[twilit mountain]

Account

[warped wren]

[copper pawn]

skin of the loyal, is there a way to change socket color? does jun altar giving white socket help?

[warped wren]

nope

[stable shore]

i killed extreme zeromus

farming the wep atm

made the group myself and i'm getting 100% carried by an experienced player

[stable shore]

sorry i didn't see the message

it's dead at that point

pick DD i guess

nvm

it's a paradoxica

pick accuracy then

but you will never sell it

[copper pawn]

hang on, you can corrupt a gem since level 1 to make it +1? and level it to 21?

[twilit mountain]

Nope

[copper pawn]

so this still levels to 20 only?

[twilit mountain]

Yup

[copper pawn]

I see lol, but it does save some leveling effort I guess

[twilit mountain]

Very, very minimally.

Level 19 to 20 is like... the entire exp of 1-18

[copper pawn]

don't you just need to level this to level 19 and it's already 20?

[twilit mountain]

No?

[copper pawn]

oh yeah, exp is different

[twilit mountain]

It's not +1 total level, it's +1 to current

[stable shore]

corruption is basically either -quality or +quality, vaal, nothing, +1 level or - level

so for 21 no choice but to corrupt a clean 20

[stable shore]

man i love the classic ff14 boss design evolution with upgrade

they always start ugly and end up somehow hot after upgrade

like you got omega

and then his last form

was the same for vauthry too and many other

[faint mauve]

do maven for awakened multistrike

[copper pawn]

awakened multistrike is like 30+ div right now
anyway, maven will prolly eat my guardian srs for breakfast

[faint mauve]

guardian srs op what you talkin about lul

[copper pawn]

yeah, the 50+ div investment version quite op, mine is not there

[faint mauve]

its get the good stuff yourself or farm low tier safe content until you can buy on marketboard

the former is the chad play

im struggling to get my 6 link in ruth lol

i got two bases but one failed on corrupt so i can tainted fuse

[warped wren]

Probably better off doing Formed farming

SRS has the single target to kill witnessed Shaper guardians

And it's largely a self sustaining strat, and you can sell the Shaper frag sets and Mavem's writs in bulk that you get from Formed invites. Plus if you drop Woke Multistrike or some other equally big woke gem, that's a huge plus

[copper pawn]

switching to chaos animated weapon, just wanna make sure it's not a construct like srs right?

[daring shore]

i have bought the inquisitor martyr

i never seen it mentioned did anybody play it before

[copper pawn]

I did, was about this time last year, for 1 month

1 month having among the most blasting time in my life
then I quit the game forever

[daring shore]

seems reasonable for the price i paid

and it seems its singleplayer so yeah

ty for the input

[vagrant topaz]

Pretty sure I played with a friend in a party

[simple needle]

Only YouTuber that got away with having n word for his YouTube name cos he's got zero drama. I will remember the channel forever

@daring shore woo shiro combo exist, dunno if u care

[viral galleon]

yeah you can play it coop

[daring shore]

i didnt know it was called shiro combo

but i know that pickup is hard to do

and its a thing to master as a steve player

its nice that its still in

well the only friend i have that is interested in 40K is on mandatory military service atm

and even if he was here work seperates us

[junior oyster]

Yea same and I don't know if you liked smosh (at all) but I loved their channel back when it was mainly Ian and Anthony

These were the only channels I liked back in the day

Loved smoshs take on legend of zelda song xd

I didn't want to manually type higas old channel because I thought I could get muted or something lol

[junior oyster]

For the first time ever I have took my steam deck out and I don't have enough low battery usage games 😢

I have sts but I keep getting annihilated

[eternal sky]

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[mental talon]

Are you at high ascension? What are you struggling with in STS Elites? Bosses? Hallways?

[junior oyster]

I'm on A18+

Bosses can be a problem but usually it's mainly hallways and elites I'd say

[mental talon]

Got ya. I assume you know about hard pool/easy pool fights etc.? Which elites are you struggling with most Act 1/2/3?

[junior oyster]

On defect it's usually a1 but any other class it's mostly a2

Worst act imo

[mental talon]

Act 2 Elites are pretty bad so I get that hahaha

Book of Stabbing and Triple Slavers on high Ascension can be brutal if unprepared

[junior oyster]

If I get to a3 I usually win

Especially if I don't go for heart

[mental talon]

Gotcha

I'd say what works for me best is unless I'm extremely strong I go for Green key Act 1 or Act 3

[junior oyster]

Ofc that will have to change once I reach A20 (I did beat in IC a few years ago but not heart)

Yea I 90% of time go green key a3

[mental talon]

Like extra health or Str Slavers or Book can be run ending tbh

[junior oyster]

I've been trying to learn to use pots in the best possible scenario too

[mental talon]

What I do in terms of priority at least is aggressively remove Defends as even though basic Strike and Defends suck on average you'll get better defensive cards at Common on all 3 chars (but Defect and Silent are more contextual IMO)

You know about Pot% per fight?

[junior oyster]

Yea

I don't have the mod though

I pllay the game unmodded

[mental talon]

Yeah you can just keep tabs mentally

[junior oyster]

Tbf even if pot chance is low/high I'll still use a pot if I need to so I can save myself

[mental talon]

If you're gonna die absolutely but more often than not it's better to go down low to save Pots for the harder fights if possible

Like I'd say a potion can be worth upwards of 20 HP/100 gold and if the EV is too low just take the hit