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[stable shore]

girly looking

but i haven't found any fitting armour so far

[faint mauve]

my dancer glam

[near hedge]

theres quite a few sets that fit that tbh

[stable shore]

i just need a torso transmog

so i can start with the global idea

[faint mauve]

the material to craft the dress is from treasure maps, then metallic yellow dye iirc

[stable shore]

i usually process like that

but it seems like there isn't everything on ff14 glamour website

i own many armour you can't find there

[faint mauve]

for my machinist i wear a cowboy hat on top of the above

tfw never dress up in real life but my waifu is fully decked out

[near hedge]

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearsets you tried this site yet?

[stable shore]

yes

it's where i checked

and there isn't everything

[near hedge]

ahh okay

could try just looking in the glamour section people upload to. see if anyones made a set similar to what youre thinking

[stable shore]

wait actually it sounds like there is more stuff

on the link you sent somehow

nvm i selected ninja instead of reaper

[near hedge]

its the defacto glam site. they run competitions and shit on there. id be surprised if they didnt have something

[stable shore]

i think i understand why

[faint mauve]

armour glam isnt very common

[stable shore]

there are every armour set

[faint mauve]

show me an armour glam you think is cool haha

[stable shore]

but somle single body armour iimage are missing

[faint mauve]

tried making one with monster hunter armour glam but it looked bad

[stable shore]

the idea is i'll take a pally looking thing

[faint mauve]

its not even the real rathalos X design

[stable shore]

then i'll just swap the legs with a skirt

[near hedge]

i mean the old pvp sets are pretty cool if youre looking for some dark souls style armor

[stable shore]

and adapt jewellry after

[near hedge]

like the season, and leaderboard rewards

[stable shore]

i'm trying to find something similar to an old mmo i used to play

i'll try to find picture

[faint mauve]

ok this is cool

[stable shore]

maybe you know something similar in ff14

[faint mauve]

as a ninja or monk maybe

[near hedge]

too mad its locked to 1 slot

[faint mauve]

ultraman style

[near hedge]

its also no longer available

the garo sets are pretty close though

[faint mauve]

oh rip

[near hedge]

its from this years summer event

pretty goofy story, but the sets pretty meh

[faint mauve]

whats with all these underpants glam on the eorzea collection site

[near hedge]

lol people like their undies

[stable shore]

why pvp gear looks the best in this game

i really don't wanna bother with it lmao

[faint mauve]

ive done abit just to get a piece i want

its kinda a thing where if you never engaged with it, you might a few years down the line when you have nothing else to do

same for bozja/eureka/deepdungeons etc.... and then you actually find out it could actually be fun

[stable shore]

i like that

[faint mauve]

ok that looks gooood

[stable shore]

i can see thigh highs fitting it well

[faint mauve]

the overcooked armour glams the problem i find is the lack of colour

alot of them looked .... dull ?

as in colour

i dunno if metallic dyes can add further sheen

[near hedge]

thats basically just the crystarium set, with a different chest piece. if i remember right the pvp wolf mark head pieces have some that look fairly close.

[stable shore]

this isn't bad either

the top i mean

[near hedge]

looks like the void ark set

[faint mauve]

i dunno man

those shoulders look weird

like the weight looks uncomfortable

[faint mauve]

hahaha

[stable shore]

those horns

you can say it's a very horny set

[faint mauve]

lightning conduit

[near hedge]

lol oh god that set

should be pretty doable at 90 now though

[faint mauve]

can have excuse if you wipe in raids i guess

[near hedge]

its from a fate in the shroud

[stable shore]

I ain't farming it

it looks stupid

[near hedge]

it looks amazing. whatchu on about

you cant tell me that set doesnt just fill you with vigor

[faint mauve]

maybe a weird meme / weirdo glam setup

like under pants

lightning coinduit helm, and some other stupid shit

[stable shore]

hum i tried the set i showed on my character

it looks too bulky for my catboy sadly

[near hedge]

honestly a lot of things lay whack on catboys

[stable shore]

yeah, it seems plate armour never fits tbh

this isn't bad looking

the torso i mean

is the tail part of the torso or not ?

fuck it's part of the torso

[faint mauve]

is that the tail lol

[stable shore]

it will probably look very weird on a miquo'te

[faint mauve]

you dont have to go full suit anyway you can always try one piece glams

[stable shore]

yeah but it's a dungeon drop

so i can't really preview it

nah it looks way too weird i think

[faint mauve]

yah i dont go that deep into glam hunting to the point of repeating a single dungeon

i rather sell the shit for company seals

and convert to gil

[stable shore]

i really don't wanna bother farming a raid for it

fuck i give up trying with plate armour

lesson learned, miquo'te are meant to crossdress and nothing else

[faint mauve]

sometimes in game on a raid before it begins you can just view a rando's glam setup if your interested

you could find some inspiration at least something to do before it starts

game is more fun when you set your own goals and have something to work towards instead of just farming capping lvl 90 tomes every week

[stable shore]

true

[near hedge]

you can go to the wolves pier and preview it, but yeah it looks terrible in game

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamour/240962/ruined-king what about something like this

[stable shore]

i'm not a fan

i looked every pages of the website, nothing really caught my eyes

[near hedge]

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamour/239231/pale-blue-dot the paglth'an set looks pretty dope.

imo its one of the best sets in the game

for all the jobs hoenstly

[stable shore]

it does look dope actually

i'll go farm it

[near hedge]

its from the final shadowbringers dungeon

[stable shore]

only drops from boss right ?

[near hedge]

should drop from any of the bosses in there

[stable shore]

oh, treasure coffer 3 and lunar bahamuth apparently

[near hedge]

thats not too bad

it is a pretty long dungeon though

i doubt youll be able to nosync it on reaper

[stable shore]

i am built different

i'm joking, i'll just tag with npc

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[near hedge]

that sounds like torture

[stable shore]

is ok, i can bring ryne with me, she will apply trick attack

it's something at least

[near hedge]

lol better than waiting 40 minutes in queue

[stable shore]

yes

that's the idea

i'll need to find good plated thigh highs to use with this armour too

[near hedge]

the crystarium sets decent

should be a pretty similar vibe

[stable shore]

i just go pull every pack

because thancred is too limited to do it himself

[near hedge]

lol

i find it weird they design the dungeons to be like that, but yet dont actually make the trusts do it

[stable shore]

nothing on the first run

[hot crown]

Interesting. Wish our education actually meant something instead of being a garbage-quality propaganda tool.

Maybe then I wouldn't have been a shitstain of a human being I currently am...

[copper pawn]

finally 6 soc, now is 6 links

there's always that 1 broken link somewhere god damn

[faint mauve]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/boneshatter-juggernaut-league-starter man this build triggers me hard

friend showed me this , my ruthless build last league has 3 million more dps without a benchcraft

its super safe though but no way your gonna do 4 million dps

[junior oyster]

Last league it took me nearly 300-500 fusings to get a 6l on dendrobate

So yea good luck man

[copper pawn]

yeah, and then chrom till all 6 correct colors lol

[copper pawn]

is this the legendary tab sale?

it won't get cheaper than this right?

to sell items, I should upgrade existing tabs tp premium or buy new premium?

[simple needle]

Depends on how many tabs you currently own, one premium goes a long way cos you can sell stuff on it. I don't use that many tabs anyway cos I reset every league

[faint mauve]

iirc no it wont be cheaper than this

[copper pawn]

is this shit good for srs?

[copper pawn]

what are the tabs I should buy again? 1 currency, upgrade 1 premium, and what else?

[faint mauve]

maps

well you paying for a $30 supporter pack or $60 ?

[copper pawn]

$20 lol

[faint mauve]

bruh pay $10 more for a supporter pack

at least you get skins etc

[copper pawn]

I bought the $20 supporter pack, got 1 extra tab for it

[faint mauve]

ohhh the first blood one ? kk got it

thats 200 coins yah?

[copper pawn]

yah, so I bought currency, map, upgrade 1 to premium, and exactly 10 points left

[faint mauve]

so i guess map, currency , upgrade two to premium stash or one extra tab

you probably just need one premium stash and an extra stash tab

you dont need to sell alot unless you actually enjoy it

[copper pawn]

yeah, so I'll just leave the 10 points there, no need to spend them all

and regarding the skill gem, the level 21 corrupted is great?

[faint mauve]

i never played pure SRS

i know animate guardian but i dunno if its a thing for SRS

for me i have these, just one quad

the only unpremium tab i use it for current league only shit

[copper pawn]

yeah, but generally a level 21 gem is super desirable right?

[faint mauve]

yes very

its worth something at least

you dont want your AG to die if you got many divs invested in it

i think you need a certain unique ring to fully make use of it

i played alot of minions before its as OP currently is, im not complaining but minion builds were considered a meme for awhile

SRS i dont consider it as a real minion build it just scales minion

[copper pawn]

wait, removing existing guardian gem and replace with new one will reset all the gears on it?

[faint mauve]

hmm forgot but once i had my AG it sticks with the gem

google it the answer is there

[faint mauve]

if you mean AG dying, if the AG die all the equipment you put on it will be lost

so if you say invest in a kingmaker on the AG, its a few divs so if the AG die its gone

with how popular minion builds are atm i dunno if its still like 2 -3 divs

[junior oyster]

It is for witch but doesn't seem to be for guardian

I could be wrong though

[faint mauve]

i heard SRS guardian is the most OP build last league anyway

SRS by itself is abit too uninteractive for me

[copper pawn]

no, not dying, but for example, remove the gem from the socket

[faint mauve]

nah he wont die

[copper pawn]

interesting, so I just need to buy that lvl 21 gem and replace, current gem, and it's still the same gears

[faint mauve]

ya the gear is stored with your character, not necessarily the gem

if im wrong dont hate me coming from memory

a starter AG is cheap as chips anyway your not losing much

belly of the beast, southbound, leercast, dying breath

boots depending on your element

as long as you dont take your AG to uber maven even a budget one should survive

[copper pawn]

yeah, using that budget version

[junior oyster]

Or detonate dead as I learnt last league

[faint mauve]

uuf

[junior oyster]

So becareful when opening those unid strongboxes especially in juiced red maps

[faint mauve]

actually good performance lol

[junior oyster]

Unless they nerfed enemy dd but I doubt that

[faint mauve]

reached no.1 jugg on ruth lol

[faint mauve]

not nerfed but avoidable anyway

get used to IDing an elite monster in like half a second and detect the DD early

[junior oyster]

Yea I'm aware of that

DD is a stupid mechanic like most mechanics in poe

[faint mauve]

on unid strongboxes if your frozen and theres DD you have enough time to /exit

no other fix other than having freeze immune potion ready to open the strongbox

[junior oyster]

Ofc

Or just freeze and hope you live

[faint mauve]

its not stupid for me , its like doing nihlatak in d2

and its very avoidable so i dont see no problem

[junior oyster]

Stupid in the way it scales

Also fuck nihlatek I hated that guy

Stealing my corpse explosions

[faint mauve]

yah you need to be super alert and have attention lol

its hard to maintain that for a long period of time

[junior oyster]

I'd rather have dd than fight that stupid birb in canyon though

Idk how it just one-shots me

[faint mauve]

one shot ?

eep

i dont recall canyon being a problem but for me its core , palace

[junior oyster]

Other bosses so far haven't been an issue

[faint mauve]

fuckin factory

[junior oyster]

Nope non of them are a problem for me

The birb does this aoe rain of arrows or something that always gets me

Factory is the one with that Tane like dude right?

[faint mauve]

electric walls

its not a problem if you can dps down before the walls come out, or at least one wall so you can trigger potion and get maybe 10 seconds more to kill

[junior oyster]

Oh the one from act 9 in the quarry?

[faint mauve]

but on ruthless progression you just dont have the power unless you are playing meta

yah

[junior oyster]

He is a weaker version of minatuar as far as I'm concerned lol

In terms of his arena at least

[faint mauve]

yah of course

accidental deaths can still easily happen, dying once in the 90s in ruthless is painful

not just exp but the maps you use to get that exp

[copper pawn]

think next season I'll go with a build that has both league start and endgame version, but I doubt playing ssf will ever get me to endgame version lol

[faint mauve]

ssf standard is fine

its just a different strategy without trade market min maxing which im not huge on

i wont sell completions or buy carries

[copper pawn]

do I do temple everytime its location is revealed?

[faint mauve]

alva ??

you open 12 rooms then you take the map , save it or run it

the ones i save are say double corrupt rooms

[copper pawn]

how do you know if it's double corruption?

[faint mauve]

by building said room

if you wanna build more often you spec into atlas

[copper pawn]

what do you mean by building? when I encounter alva I just encounter it randomly and as fast as possible, so where to see this building?

[faint mauve]

its really hard to explain to you in a few sentences

you have a choice to change a room to something else, or an existing room upgraded

so you hit the say corruption room and then you upgrade it to tier 3

you wont do this easily without investment in atlas

you need to know what is the name of the corruption room so you can google that

[waxen sonnet]

I think it's literally "temple of corruption" or something similar lol

[faint mauve]

triple tempest room also has corruption on the name you can confuse with it if you dont pay attention

[waxen sonnet]

Oh that is true. Good call

[faint mauve]

your not guaranteed to get a double corrupt room unless you really max it and pray you get lucky

[waxen sonnet]

Idr if there are nodes for room types or quality on the atlas tree

[faint mauve]

its still rng

[waxen sonnet]

Sure sure

[faint mauve]

you dont need to heavily invest unless you actually want to double corrupt everything

[copper pawn]

so I just don't bother with that content at all

[waxen sonnet]

Well that's sad. Temple is fun 🙂

[faint mauve]

dont think so

every master is good

least good is einhar

but in ruthless einhar is still good cause thats the only way you can enchant your potions

[waxen sonnet]

Even that has uses. And you get free einhar missions 🙂

[faint mauve]

and then doing boss einhar for say farruls fur or whatever its called

its worth alot for ruthless

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah that for sure. Idk if I would ever spec into it or anything. But

[faint mauve]

you dont need in standard unless you play ssf/hcssf and want to target farm the uniques

standard poe is stilll not a waste to invest if your a craicic chineral farmer

theres many ways to play the game

[copper pawn]

as long as not taking part in a certain endgame doesn't lock me out of anything, it's ok

don't care too much about things rarer than winning powerball like double corruption

[faint mauve]

50% is not the powerball

but ya , you dont need much to be successful in standard

only if you play the real zoomer currency meta

[copper pawn]

50% is not, 50% followed by another 1% maybe, like, there's no point just corrupting the item, must corrupt to the right affix

[faint mauve]

you can still farm 16 divs or whatever for awakened multistrike , or 18 - 20 divs for ashes

[copper pawn]

sounds like too complicated lol, hope poe2 reduces the complexity massively

[junior oyster]

[faint mauve]

i just hope its really ruthless poe 2

the worst fears of modern poe enjoyers

[copper pawn]

thing is, ggg does promise they will make poe2 much more casual friendly

[junior oyster]

I want it to be a D3 clone

[junior oyster]

"Promise"

We'll see though

[faint mauve]

its probably still gonna be more complex than LE

otherwise it doesnt stand out

[copper pawn]

that is still ok though, at least from high school student friendly to uni student friendly, still better than the currently phd student friendly

[faint mauve]

well your on your first char right ?

your doing ok

[waxen sonnet]

Idk why people say Poe is PhD level understanding. It's really not that complicated. There is a lot of feature bloat after ten years but each individual mechanic or interaction is relatively simple

[faint mauve]

how can i explain betrayal to keika in 10 sentences ?

minimum requirement in standard poe is just unveil everything, yolo until mastermind

maybe hit a diadem, which isnt worth much in poe standard

[copper pawn]

I mean, just look at poe uni clips, each lasts nearly 2h, most arpg will cover everything within that 2h explanation, meanwhile poe only finishes explaining the basics before endgame

[waxen sonnet]

None of that invalidates what I just said lol

[copper pawn]

don't think poe is phd level of understanding, it's more like phd level of knowledge to learn

[faint mauve]

its alot of effort from the player

[waxen sonnet]

PhD level understanding doesn't mean a large volume of information. It means that the information is incredibly complicated, nuanced, interconnected, mechanistically obscure or nebulous, intricate and requiring a high level of base knowledge on the topic to even understand what's being contemplated

[faint mauve]

but once you unlock the big brain its rewarding

[waxen sonnet]

Poe is just a lot of relatively simple mechanics stacked one on another. Of which, most can be learned just by playing

[faint mauve]

it will take hundreds of hours if your smart

not uber smart

[copper pawn]

I remember ziz once said if you're less than 5k hours into the game, you don;t have that deep understanding yet

[faint mauve]

nah can be much lower than that

you just need prior experience in the genre

[copper pawn]

that's why poe is intimidating to people without arpg experience

[faint mauve]

i was a d2 ladder player

[copper pawn]

their spirit will prolly break before 10h

[faint mauve]

so poe is very much like d2 anyway

original poe and ruthless is more similar to the d2 concept

[waxen sonnet]

If the only game you have ever played is Stardew valley then the initial onboarding is more difficult sure. But come on, if you have ever played any like games, not even necessarily arpgs, you can grasp most of the concepts within the first few times encountering them. The PhD level understanding comes when you are trying to make connections and do things that are beyond the normal scope of the game.

And even that is masters level at most

And again, 99.8% of players will never even need to get close to that level to play and enjoy the game. Especially as most of them are just following a guide anyways

[faint mauve]

yah thats it

i only make my own builds

thats why the maxroll jugg boneshit triggers me

[copper pawn]

yeah, like me, still stucking at uni level of gameplay

but at least their guardian srs guide not bad, even ziz recommends

[waxen sonnet]

The deification of streamers and content creators is a whole other issue, but don't need to get into that

[faint mauve]

yah they hire cronies

i would not be caught dead copying their builds

[copper pawn]

is it healthy for me to already think about what build to start with next league lol

[faint mauve]

yah sure

well some build makers deserve it like jungroan ben carn ziz etc

they are legitly good players

ghazzy i dont really respect cause he doesnt do HC

[waxen sonnet]

I am always thinking about that

[faint mauve]

very good for me

[copper pawn]

can you still bench craft with corrupted item?

[faint mauve]

no

[copper pawn]

interesting, can pull out temple map layout so that you can stack the next one

[faint mauve]

you can sell the temple too

if you made a profitable one

more than just double corrupt

[copper pawn]

map can be anointed? what does it mean?

[faint mauve]

annoint it

[copper pawn]

this is 1 mechanism I'm not familiar with, although I did anoint my amulet according to guide

[waxen sonnet]

Do the same thing you did to your amulet. To the map

Anoint it

Transitive property isn't undergrad level thinking, it's like 5th grade math 😉

[copper pawn]

I anoint my amulet coz it gives buff, what does anoint map do? same buff but only to that map run?

[waxen sonnet]

Try it and see

Oils are super cheap and common except black, silver and gold

[copper pawn]

selling corpse so profitable

I feel so weird saying that, almost sounds like dead body smuggler

[waxen sonnet]

Pretty much what it is

[junior oyster]

If you struggle to kill shit use the lower oils to help you out

[copper pawn]

can you run labyrinth multiple times to upgrade gem quality or to make transfigured gems?

[waxen sonnet]

Yes

[copper pawn]

but people still use gemcutter coz it's simply faster?

[waxen sonnet]

Let me be clear. You can run lab multiple times, as many times as you want

[junior oyster]

Uber lab does restrict you in that you need the goddess key thing per run but otherwise you can run lab as much as you want

[trim portal]

it's wierd owning a macbook and android phone together right?

[warped wren]

gemcutter for upping quality, lab for finding Tgems

or just spare yourself the pain and buy

"success" (conventionally defined) in PoE SC Trade comes from how efficiently you use your time. If you're running lab just for a specific Tgem rather than blasting maps to get currency to buy it, you're likely being wildly inefficient unless your character is built to farm lab and that's your primary strat

[copper pawn]

I wonder any gem of guardian srs is worth having transfigured gem instead of normal gem

[warped wren]

no

SRS of Enormity is good for popcorn SRS

[copper pawn]

I read animate guardian and dont see a real difference between normal and transfigured, am I reading it wrong?

[warped wren]

it just uses Smite

the only way to make it work would I guess be to get some solid gear on it to make that Smite not be dogshit, and to make your character into an aurabot

[copper pawn]

I wonder if it's worth it to up all supported gems of srs to quality 20?

[waxen sonnet]

Depends on what the quality does

[junior oyster]

I really do miss being able to make a level 20 gem into a level 1 gem with 20% qual

At least gemcutters still haven't gone up much

Oh wait I forgot I'm on ssf

[warped wren]

it's... not useless, but you should check it in POB. Usually gear upgrades will give you a way better return on currency

[copper pawn]

take minion support for example, at 20, deals 39% more dmg, the quality part say 10% increased damage, this 10% is additive to the affixes on weapon and shield, not additive to the 39% right?

[warped wren]

the way damage works in PoE is Base x (sum of all increased damage) x (sum of all more damage)

so that increased damage is going to add to your increased damage source pool

[copper pawn]

basically additive

[trim portal]

why android

[copper pawn]

so maybe that's the last step after I'm done with upgrading offensive items

considering that my minion additive damage in total is not even 100% yes, that 50% is huge

[warped wren]

how tf

is it that low

[junior oyster]

I don't think mine is all that good either rofl

Yea only 230%

[copper pawn]

jackpot

rich

[viral galleon]

No more doesn't add up, it multiplies each time. Increased is additive, more is multiplicitive

[copper pawn]

oh, just notice mine is 320%

how the hell do people sell for 3.2 div? 0.2 div is what?

[junior oyster]

.2 of a div

20%

[vagrant topaz]

Some chaos orbs

[junior oyster]

If a div is 100c then it's 3d + 20c

[viral galleon]

The difference being, if I do 100 damage and get 100% increased, that's 200 damage. If I get another 100% increased, that's 300 damage. (100 x (100% +100%))

If I have 100 damage, and get 100% more, it's 200 damage. If I get another 100% more, that's 400 damage. (100 x 100% x 100%)

[copper pawn]

what build use this item that it's worth so much?

[junior oyster]

Probably many

[copper pawn]

not too familiar with jewel system, so I don't really understand, but it's not useful for my build right?

[junior oyster]

No idea but I guess it could work if you don't need the stats you do allocate

I wish I went with poison srs witch though

[copper pawn]

why? much stronger than guardian srs?

[junior oyster]

Nah I just like the witch more

[warped wren]

right my bad

[warped wren]

a LOT

it's a generically excellent jewel

gg, have fun with the currency

[copper pawn]

feeling rich

[junior oyster]

Nice

[copper pawn]

so double corruption is when you have 2 of this in the building right?

[maiden widget]

no when you upgrade it to III

e.g. upgrade it twice

[copper pawn]

I see, so basically unlocking it 3 times, before unlocking the temple

[junior oyster]

Raxx is a PoE player now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msQ7Z-4mnBs

I disagree with him on the casual bit though. PoE is actually still more fun than D4. And until D4 becomes as good as D3 I'm not touching D4 again

[warped wren]

also that redhead guy

Darth something

[junior oyster]

Darth Maul?

Just kidding

But I know who you mean

It took me a long time to play both poe and grim dawn

Like I literally used to be one of those D3 fan boys that used to think PoE sucks

Don't even get me started on gd lol. I hated the graphics of that more than poe

[warped wren]

how does it feel stepping into the light

[junior oyster]

Idk but I know for a fact I enjoyed a league many people seemed to hate. Pokemon league 😂

That was my first and proper attempt at PoE

I got to mid-high tier maps at the time

[tawny sand]

i think the issue for people is that the capturing was annoying

[junior oyster]

League mechanic sucked (the net throwing bit) but the gameplay was fucking amazing

[tawny sand]

they fixed it eventually tho

[junior oyster]

And I basically enjoyed PoE before the whole atlas tree was created so there is that too

[warped wren]

Crucible was an utterly dogshit league mechanic but game felt amazing to play

so that happens

[junior oyster]

Yea I'll be honest despite the fact I love these games (including D3) I usually take long breaks so I skip out on a lot of leagues

So I never experienced crucible lol

[rugged island]

I tried to get into POE the last 3 leagues and I just cant

i always make it to maps and realize im not having any fun

i'm done with poe til poe2 comes out

[junior oyster]

I take it you enjoy LE?

[warped wren]

what specifically do you end up disliking?

[rugged island]

a lot, way more

[junior oyster]

Any reason why?

[rugged island]

lack of QoL features, combat feels dated, even bigger one-shot meta than LE, steep difficulty drops rather than gradual, complexity which discourages newer/less experienced players from making their own builds, punishing respeccing too much, convoluted trade system which requires using third party tools, combat becomes too fast, terrible UI design based upon late 1990's UI with 4:3 aspect ratio despite 16:9 being the modern norm (or even wider like 25:9).. I can go on, and i'm not interested into getting into a long discussion about this. POE is just not my game despite trying to get into it again and again through the years, there's just way too many problems and things that piss me off and ruin my fun. I feel like POE is more of chris wilson's personal nostolgia project than actually being made as a game for mass appeal, and people overlook the flaws because it offers for example unparralled build depth other games cannot

but im not arguing this more, thats just my opinion

[warped wren]

right, I was just curious

[junior oyster]

The fact they are keeping it two separate games as opposed to their original plan means they don't want to lose their hc/top players

[rugged island]

im going to give poe2 an honest try

but im done with poe

the only "fun" i have is designing a build

but that doesnt outweigh the lack of fun from actually playing the game

For contrast, I enjoy playing LE, the gameplay itself is enjoyable to me

thats really it

[junior oyster]

Unfortunately I can't get into LE. I really dislike the fact you can only use 5 skills max and 5 skills to specialise into.

[rugged island]

Funny enough but I find it more engaging here. POE builds almost always devolve into spamming 1 ability as your entire build and all your other shit is automatically triggered or reserved auras or heralds or whatnot. in LE I'm always using all my abilities and that's way more engaging. Even tho POE has "more" you end up doing way less. The better your build, the more drooling monkey-brained ape you can "play"

[junior oyster]

True but I just prefer to have a lot of skills even if they are just auras

[rugged island]

POE to me is the statement that's very popular with game devs, "if you let a player optimize the fun out of the game, they will"

GGG missed that lesson entirely

POE is all about optimziation

and it kills the game in the long run

[rugged island]

i'd love more build layers in LE

see the build depth in POE is one thing I do really like

but I need to step over and ignore dozens of big issues to enjoy those things

and I cannot do that

me personally, no

[warped wren]

Except that they have consistently been lowering the floor for what makes a build good and viable and every league mechanic adds much more strength to the "casual" than the one before

So

Like if you'd told me two leagues ago you could make a 10m+ DPS Tornado Shot build for, like, barely 10 divs I'd have pissed myself laughing

But here we are

You can actually clear much of the game and have good fun in t16s with some incredibly basic ass gear now. Sure you CAN optimize and go for wildly overpowered levels of godliness, but by no means do you need to

[junior oyster]

I just think some people simply don't enjoy X games

[warped wren]

Totally fair

[junior oyster]

I know there are many people who love poe but hate gd

[warped wren]

I just think it's unfair to say GGG don't understand their players. I think they've proven time and again they very much do

They're deserving of criticism in several areas, but that's not one of them

[junior oyster]

Yea I mean I can't say about skills as I'm still nooby but they made atlas a lot more accessible with the atlas tree

[warped wren]

Even this whole gem rework makes the system so much less complicated while still retaining a ton of depth

I love it

And it leaves them design space to add even more crazy gems

[rugged island]

this

im not arguing because I know how zealous POE players get when faced with ANY criticism of their beloved game so I dont want to get into this

i think its a bad game, not for me, you can love it, thats fine, move on

[eternal sky]

there is alot of builds that use like 2 buttons for dashes 1 button for a buff 1 button or multiple buttons for curses debuffs etc

let alone builds like warcrys having the extra rotations alongside totems etc

2 button builds like dd bladeblase

in epoch alot of builds is just making 1 button your most powerful button

like for example my werebear was quite literally roar then slam

then you got skills that automate casting skills soo you specialize into them but never actually use them

[stable shore]

i actually don't feel like one game is really different than the other on that aspect

i just depends on your build

[eternal sky]

yea

its quite literally the same

people play epoch the same way they do PoE

build around the button that works

[stable shore]

yeah, on poe you could play TS and just press 1 key

or you could play melee with 2 totems, berserk + blood rage

[eternal sky]

yea and for example dd has like

curse

dese

shield charge

blessing

[stable shore]

yep

[eternal sky]

flame dash etc

[stable shore]

that said i wish they could smooth up totems in poe

maybe make both in 1 ?

[eternal sky]

yea idk totems are fucked

[trim portal]

Is it normal to have an Android phone and a Macbook? I oftne thought Macbooks were really built to be used with iphones

[stable shore]

it's such a huge buff though and is mandatory for melee

[eternal sky]

all they need to do is

[stable shore]

you can only pass on them when you are OP, but it's objectively a bad thing to do

[eternal sky]

remove the buffs from the totems

add them baseline to melee

even at just a reduced portion

[stable shore]

well i like totems tbh

but 2 to manage is yikes

[eternal sky]

yea thats why i said remove the buff

since then ur not compelled to use them for the buff basicly

sure its a few mil extra ST

also

but like

[stable shore]

classic ggg giving back 10% of the buff

melee dead

[waxen sonnet]

Dude. Stop. Jfc

[stable shore]

remember when they removed power from mendatory item to give them back to melee skill ?

with treshold jewels

glacial hammer and dual strike both lost melee splash

[eternal sky]

phone tribal andy alert

go consoom some where else

[rugged island]

ngl this is a really weird combo. PC with iPhone is way more common

[stable shore]

we got back the damage, but we lost 1 support gem

[trim portal]

oooo i'm getting famous. People are remembering me.

[eternal sky]

[waxen sonnet]

Bout to just report you for spam

That's all it is

[stable shore]

is primeval actually a talented star manager ?

[eternal sky]

must be

[stable shore]

so anway, i rather keep totems as is

the ggg i know will remove them and put nothing back to melee because fuck us

[eternal sky]

tbh i wouldnt even care

[rugged island]

i will say

[stable shore]

they did that so many tims in the past already

[eternal sky]

damage needs to be nerfed again

anyways

[trim portal]

That's fine. Either way, i'm in your head 😉

I win

[stable shore]

i would, melee would be genuinely be zdps in ssf without those buff on some skills

[rugged island]

the new POE2 trailer with the fully automatic assault rifle crossbow class looks awesome

[stable shore]

though this patch did a lot for melee, so maybe it feels better now

there's a reason people tolerate totems, it's because they are mandatory for some melee skill to even compete in dps with some other good skils

[eternal sky]

boneshatter is insane

the new alt qual

just better then normal shatter unless ur ramping to like 30+

feelsgoodman

[stable shore]

it is insane, but i don't think it's because of the new alt quality

it's still a net negative on dps

[eternal sky]

shrug

boneshatter ramping feels shit

[stable shore]

trauma stacker is basically dead now

well personally i think trauma stacker was a neat idea

although completely broken, so good riddance

[trim portal]

and yours 😉

[stable shore]

to be honest i'm just happy stacking trauma became a top build in poe at some point

[eternal sky]

i wouldnt say top build

there are skills that just

mechanically

demolish what boneshatter is

[stable shore]

hum i guess you can't say top because of how costy it is

but with big investment it's genuinely absurd

EZ 10k delve

[eternal sky]

ur std brains too stuck

[stable shore]

nah it's doable in league

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

in standard it's miles ahead though

wait i'll show you an item

that makes the build ridiculous

[eternal sky]

its just the chest right

[stable shore]

nah

that's probably the best boneshatter helmet on market atm

wait, i think there was another version better for it

this helmet gets entirely recrafted regulary

well basically you can change the two prefixes and implicits whenver you want

the idea is with transcendance keystone, that makes sustaining thousands of trauma easy

(with some help on other gear of course)

[stable shore]

no elevated conc effect

[eternal sky]

because since he only gets to maps and quits he actually doesnt experience the game nor does he get enough curr to make an actual char soo he si stuck on some 88% life char for the entire league

[stable shore]

anyway trauma stacker stronk

but there are better melee build in std

you got vaal LS with 20B dps and isn't even expensive

[eternal sky]

yea idc about std

[stable shore]

or armour stacker spectral shield throw you can probably push to 50B+ dps

[eternal sky]

nor do i really care about builds that do dps that really doesnt matter

cus at a point of going over like

100m dps

nothing matters

ur already obliterating shit

[stable shore]

well i wouldn't say more than 100m dps is the useless point

but you're right

100m is genuinely not that much for some content

[eternal sky]

100m is plenty

[stable shore]

it is, but it can be usefull to have more for some content is what i meant

[eternal sky]

even on ubers its still 30mil

ur killing the boss in 2 seconds

[stable shore]

you could save 2 seconds

[eternal sky]

like the only content u need redic dps is delve and delve only

not even honestly since the hp

just stops at like 1.5k or smth right

its just damage

[stable shore]

how so

you can skip phase and one tap boss in every uber except uber elder iirc

[eternal sky]

im pretty sure delve monster hp caps at like 1500 depth irc heard ben talk about it

[stable shore]

it's even possible to one shot sirus from phase 1

oh

i missread

wait, delve scaling caps ?

damage too ?

[eternal sky]

nah

damage is the issue

[stable shore]

only hp ?

[eternal sky]

yea only hp

[stable shore]

fuck

i was thinking i could go delve with my slayer then

[eternal sky]

because i remember him talking about how it doesnt matter if he gets more dps

[stable shore]

but i'm not tanky enough if dmg doesn't stop scaling

[eternal sky]

the mobs hp stops scaling

but the damage still ramps

[stable shore]

well personally i just like shiny gear

and dps comes naturally with it

but truthfully, none of the upgrade i did in 2-3 years mattered

[eternal sky]

yea stuff just

all dies the same

lmfao

[stable shore]

well it actually changed in defence, clear and sustain a lot

but dps aspect was always the same

from 500m+ i stopped feeling any difference

there was very rare instance where i could feel the stupid damage, but that's about it

for exemple in wave 30 simulacrum when i can't see kosis or omnophobia because they get one shotted by collateral damage when they spawn

or uber blight when you can run any tanky mods and still one tap boss

anyway, back to farming paglth'an for that sexy body armour transmog

[faint mauve]

pog dungeon

[stable shore]

hum i half like it

the last boss is cool

but the first two are rather boring

i also i realized luna bahamuth has no head

it's weird

so what are macros good for in ff14 in the end ?

[faint mauve]

i only use macros for fishing/crafting

[near hedge]

depends on what you wanna do

the only real combat macro i use anymore is one for pvp to target the closest person, so it gives me two separate ways to target people depending on what i want

otherwise its just all hotbar stuff, and just random goofy shit

[stable shore]

i guess it can be usefull to announce mechanic when you lead a raid maybe ?

about targeting, what's the priority system when using tab ?

[near hedge]

depends on your settings. theres a few different ones

[near hedge]

eh thats all done on discord. and pugs dont really announce anything, at least from what ive seen. lol but na party finder is known for being trash

[stable shore]

i have to take a look at those

i think i should make it target highest health enemy if it's available

[near hedge]

normally you go for lowest

[stable shore]

well as a reaper i'd prefer highest

because i have many huge damage cds to use regulary

and i don't want to use them on a nearly dead thing

but at the same time, it's important that as few mobs are alive as possible to avoid any useless dmg to the tank

it's just a bit annoying when i target a low health enemy, start using a cd and he dies before i can use the following attack

oh ! also can i prevent my character from stopping and turning back to the targeted monster when i move while attacking ?

[near hedge]

ye autoturn is a setting you can disable

if not, there is a / command for it

[stable shore]

thanks

oh fuck actually that bricks my build

i end up with a rate of 90% of my action missing

well it's okay, i will lose a tiny bit of dps if i have big movement to do

[near hedge]

lol yeah healing is pretty much the only thing that it doesnt effect

[stable shore]

alright, let's see if this time bahamuth drops the fcking transmog

i think i did like 6 runs so far

wich doesn't sounds much but with npc ...

[warped wren]

@eternal sky rue's Voltaxic TS is fucking JUICED dood

I just swapped to it with fairly scuffed gear and underlevelled gems

It demolishes content

[stable shore]

8 runs still nothing

[stable shore]

9 runs nothing

[stable shore]

10 runs

[stable shore]

11 runs

man that transmog better be worth it

[copper pawn]

what's this tornado shot lots of people talk about? is it the best build in game right now? I watch raxx and even he wants to swap to this build from his quite accomplished lightning arrow deadeye

[stable shore]

unsure if it's the best, but it has been at the top of the meta for a lot of time

crazy clear + abusrd bossing dps, pretty much all you want when you are a softcore andy

the big thing about it is damage scales extremely well

and the only limit is pretty much your budget

[copper pawn]

yeah I heard that build is at least 10+ div investment

btw now I'm doing yellow maps consistently, what filter should I use, currently using strict version of this

I should swap to these?

[stable shore]

more than that i think

i am not certain, but i don't think it works at this low budget

until then you're better off playing LA

[stable shore]

what are those ?

[copper pawn]

loot filters, I'm still using the leveling filter, strict version, so I wonder when I should swap to endgame version

[warped wren]

It does now

The cat is a wizard

[warped wren]

Just sync with the Neversink website, IMO in mapping you shouldn't use anything below Strict

[stable shore]

how so ?

that's kind new, in my book 10d doesn't even get you the needed bow

[warped wren]

Doomfletch + Ryslatha + Dance with Death from legion jewel

And if you extend the budget to 20 divs, instead go for Voltaxic Right with TS in Thunderfist Gloves and same legion jewel

[stable shore]

but where do you get your flat dmg ?

are you sure it's good, this sounds surprising

[copper pawn]

I did, but now I'm wondering whether I should continue using strict version of leveling filter or use strict endgame filter

[warped wren]

Check out ruetoo's stream or Discord

It's insane

[warped wren]

Doomfletch adds 100% of phys as each ele extra

[stable shore]

i know

but that doesn't explain where the flat is lmao

[warped wren]

Voltaxic is pure lightning, and Thunderfist has lv 30 added lightning support

[stable shore]

i'm aware

but i just wonder why this does good damage despite doomfletch having 0 flat

but maybe i'm putting in melee andy thoughts and it's just not an issue for TS

OH i see

doomfletch is of each elements now

it used to be one of the 3

i guess that compensates for the lack of flat

i see

either way fuck tornado shot for real, 7m dps on a budget this low 🤮 i hope it gets nerf hammered soon

[copper pawn]

how's its aoe, should be even more massive than lightning arrow right? and boss killing also better I heard

[stable shore]

1 click = screen dead

[warped wren]

Coverage is crazy

[warped wren]

You also use Ashrend for big inc phys and put flat phys on rings, ammy, quiver

[stable shore]

basically this build is the king of speed + bossing

it's a 11/10 on both aspect

there aren't many better bossing skill, even in league people are rocking 1 billion + dps tornado shot builds

[warped wren]

It's not a bosser

At all

At

All

[stable shore]

it absolutely is a bosser what the fuck

[copper pawn]

think its bossing is ranked lower than poison srs

[warped wren]

As long as Chain DD and VD of Seething exist

[stable shore]

what are those

[warped wren]

And Icicle Mines

And Ralakesh Ice Trapper

[stable shore]

why does it matter ? you can one tap ubers

[warped wren]

You're fucking trolling if you boss with TS

[stable shore]

????

it has hundreds of millions of dps single target ?

[warped wren]

You can one tap Ubers for a tenth of the budget required on TS

[warped wren]

Yes

[stable shore]

well yes, but that doesn't make it bad for bossing

that's an extreme statement

[warped wren]

Anything is great for bossing if you have infinite budget

Entire discussion is moot

[copper pawn]

it's not bad, but it's also not 11/10

[stable shore]

no but you don't get my point

those skills you listed are incapable of doing anything else than bossing

[warped wren]

If you're talking about efficiency, You're legit trolling if you think TS stands on the same pedestal as the builds I mentioned for bossing

[warped wren]

That's hilariously wrong

[stable shore]

they do not holy fuck

[warped wren]

CoC VD of Seething is a giga mapper

As is Chain DD

[stable shore]

it's as if you told me a train is slow because it doesn't go as fast as a fucking starship

[warped wren]

Ben is fucking mapping with it rn

Jung has been mapping with Seething VD since day 3

[stable shore]

i don't care, those skills being at the top of the meta doesn't make TS a bad bosser

[warped wren]

You're so out of touch it's comical that you're asserting your opinion

[stable shore]

idk what you are even smoking

[warped wren]

TS is, divine for divine, nowhere in the same league for bossing

You need to invest a mirror+ to kill Ubers with the same ease that these builds manage in like 50 divs

[stable shore]

whatever you say, i don't want to argue with you you pisses me off

[stable shore]

i'm fucking aware

that still doesn't make it a bad bosser

[warped wren]

I mean okay man. Let's put a mirror+ on all builds and I guess 7/10 non troll builds will be great bossers

Very good metric

Most reasonable

[stable shore]

you're the person i hate the most arguing with, i'm not continuing this

[copper pawn]

lul what the hell is going on here

[warped wren]

Standard Andy with no stake in the game and no idea of recent leagues arguing with me about what is a good build for bossing

[copper pawn]

6 links is 1 thing but is there also foolproof way to get the colors according to how you want?

[waxen sonnet]

Crafting bench

[warped wren]

Not.. really? You can force it sort of

[waxen sonnet]

Not foolproof. Nothing is

[copper pawn]

can craft 2 red 4 blue?

[warped wren]

You have Vorici in Betrayal to get white sockets

[waxen sonnet]

But can hedge your bets. Check Poe craft

[shadow sundial]

its not foolproof but you can force 3 sockets to be a color

[copper pawn]

does it affect the number of sockets?

or the links?

[waxen sonnet]

That would be real dumb lol

No

Chromes do one thing

[shadow sundial]

no, those ones affect the socket numbers

did you read your crafting bench? 😛

[waxen sonnet]

He doesn't really do... That

[shadow sundial]

ok i'll see myself out then

[copper pawn]

is it just me or poison srs is quite a cheap build for bossing? like only around 1 div for the 3 unique items, and ashes of the stars can be replaced with more budget +1 all skill gem amulet

[warped wren]

Poison SRS is a poggers bosser

I've killed most Ubers with it and I don't even like bossing particularly. And I did it back in Sanctum, Charms make it even stronger now

Best part about Poison SRS is that it's just a comfy all rounder. Reasonably quick, reasonably tanky, great single target, reasonable clear

[copper pawn]

I reckon the clear is a bit worse than guardian srs, but at high map tier, its overall capability is much better?

[warped wren]

I'm not a 100% up to date on minion meta, but the new spectres this league are insanely good. I'm fairly sure at the absolute top end, Necro is way ahead

Necros are farming Valdo's Box maps ffs

Like literally fucking farming

And those maps are NOT a joke

[copper pawn]

did I happen to just hit the jackpot again?

[shadow sundial]

looks like a bunch of them are unsold around 2-30c, so.. no?

also that is a very flexible definition of jackpot

[warped wren]

Doubt that's any good outside of niche stuff

[stable shore]

finally

only took like 7h

[near hedge]

is it everything you dreamed of

[stable shore]

i haven't tried yet haha

i'm picking up the other required pieces

oh, i don't have access to the gloves yet

well i'll try stuff

[stable shore]

what do you think ?

[simple needle]

@daring shore How do I beat steve fox

[stable shore]

oh hey kappa, can you give me your opinion on the set i posted above ?

[daring shore]

same as you beat everyone else

[simple needle]

nice tip

[daring shore]

make the person playing the steve fox do stupid shit

and punish their dumbass

[near hedge]

interesting

[simple needle]

i dont like the random muscular armored chest on a dress or the metal plate boots

if u like it then you slay queen dont let anyone tell u otherwise

[stable shore]

well it took me 7h to farm this chest so i intend to use it lmao

thanks for your honesty

[simple needle]

also that chest got metal nipples on

like napoleon

actually julius caesar

[rugged island]

nippoleon

[simple needle]

bet boru loves nippoleon

[stable shore]

hum i was afraid it would be something i can't unsee

but i don't mind it actually, it's more of a patern

i like muscular plated armour

[simple needle]

ye it just looks like nipples from afar

not up close

[daring shore]

i think it looks good

just not the skirt

that does not fit

imo

put on some armor

[stable shore]

the skirt is built in

[daring shore]

or pants

[stable shore]

well the idea is i want a plated armour that looks girly

so i thought showing some thighs would do the trick

but i can't actually remove the skirt thing without removing the armour

[daring shore]

you are showing like 0.5% thighs with those boots

that skirt achieves of no such things

[stable shore]

yes but it's the right amount of thighs imo

[daring shore]

then ditch the long ass boots and pu on somethin else

[simple needle]

froxy have u ever played mishimas

[daring shore]

not really

[stable shore]

i don't have better boots atm 😢

wait, i'll go to my chamber and show you other pair

[simple needle]

my mishima is so dogshitg im starting from zero

[daring shore]

mishimas do require some level of knowladge and dedication than i am willing to give

its a process yeah

you can get far in 1 game but mastery will come with time

as mishimas dont generally change

i guess you only have 2 options as chars now anyways

[stable shore]

those are the only other boots that are somewhat fitting

i have a pair in mind to use, but i didn't unlock the dungeon yet

i can also do that

[near hedge]

i think the first boots work better with that chest piece

[near hedge]

god no lol

[stable shore]

or that

but no thighs

[simple needle]

peasant shoes 😦

[stable shore]

sadly the knees look too big

this might be ok ?

whatever, i'll just use cristarum boots until i unlock the fell court of troia

troian boots of maiming will perfect it

[near hedge]

lol that does look goofy as fuck

[near hedge]

could check out the pvp sets at wolves den. i think some of those could look decent enough

[junior oyster]

PoE super laggy for me today dunno why

[copper pawn]

same, but now ok, was ping 400+ for the past 1/2 day

after this 1 week of playing the game, I realize div orb is actually not that rare, I think at most the level of vex rune in d2, maybe even an ist

[daring shore]

servers are eating shit apperently

bc it started yesterday and i did die to a lag spike

it was not consistantly bad tho

[copper pawn]

how good is block spell dmg compared to suppress spell dmg?

[vagrant topaz]

You can't get 100% spell block

[copper pawn]

is it important for unset ring to have +2 levels to socketed gem?

[waxen sonnet]

If it's important to you

[copper pawn]

I intend to put determination there

don;t think 200 extra armor will make or break anything

[copper pawn]

this bro winning lottery lol

[waxen sonnet]

Forbidden jewels are very sought after, understandably so

[copper pawn]

can you use orb of annul on currupted items?

tried to google but can't find answer

[faint mauve]

no

[copper pawn]

what about using eldritch orb on them?

[vagrant topaz]

I don't think you can use anything but Tainted Currency

[copper pawn]

do we have tainted version of those eldritch orbs?

[vagrant topaz]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Category:Tainted_Currency

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah I'm just gonna start doing the same thing lol.

Linking you obvious Google results that come up as the first hit

[vagrant topaz]

?

The right wiki is a great tool

I don't have the answer to keikajun question but I am sure they will find it there

[waxen sonnet]

That was not at you vlad. Obviously lol

At keika

[copper pawn]

man, just got my +2 minion skill and 30% chaos res helm for real cheap, and my 1st bench craft got it to all 4 correct colors, now only need to link them

too bad no spare prefix slot, can't craft the 8% physical to fire

[stable shore]

Nah it's ok, i didn't realize the gloves and boots i need are so close in msq

I should actually get both later tonight

[junior oyster]

Just when I finally thought I had a chance in my ironclad run I lost again...

[copper pawn]

shit, I replace my helm with new helm, place spectre gem there, and lose my spectres lol, wtf game, why

[junior oyster]

Resummon them

[copper pawn]

I did, press raise spectre, skeleton appears

[junior oyster]

Which spectres did you use and are you holding A to view what spectres are on the ground?

A is I think the default button for viewing spectres

[copper pawn]

there's nothing on the ground, I'm at hideout

[junior oyster]

Use consecrated ground skill

desecrated*

It will spawn the corpses for you

[waxen sonnet]

Spectres aren't made from nothing

[copper pawn]

I did, only skeleton appears as well

[junior oyster]

What spectres were you using?

[copper pawn]

forest warrior

[junior oyster]

Is that from the league wildwood area?

If it is I'm not sure how those spectres work but I guess you have to resummon them

I mean rebuy them

[copper pawn]

can't they just make it like animate guardian or something? removing gem and put back or put in new gear piece should not affect anything at all

[eternal sky]

Skill issue

[copper pawn]

I see slot for large jewel, but not medium, where do you place medium?

[junior oyster]

In large jewel

It goes like this large -> Medium (x2 possible) -> Small (x2 possible)

[junior oyster]

Trust me I don't like this either along with AG perma death but it is what it is

[copper pawn]

I'm fine with AG perma death actually, coz at least you don't lose it when you remove gem, spectre is another level of annoying when you replace gears

[junior oyster]

I disagree especially when I lost 5-10d worth like 3-4 times last league ;)

[eternal sky]

i mean

its 1 c

-4c

for all the spectres u need

literally dirt

[copper pawn]

forest warrior is cheap yes, naval officer is not lol

[eternal sky]

but you didnt have a naval officer

soo its fine

[copper pawn]

yeah, but at least it costed me some c to find out, better than I find out when I have naval officer

or any expensive corpse

[eternal sky]

i cant wait till you eat ur spectre corpses with trigger

god

i cant wait

[junior oyster]

LLol

[copper pawn]

lul

[junior oyster]

My kb is broken. When I type L it sometimes types it again t.t

[eternal sky]

[junior oyster]

L indeed

[shadow sundial]

my spectres drop back to the ground as a targetable corpse when i'm in hideout and unsocket the gem

i dont think it works that way outside of hideout though

[shadow sundial]

oh shit this is like 2d

[copper pawn]

your res in map is also -30 same as in campaign right?

[waxen sonnet]

See resistance penalties section. First hit on Google searching "Poe resistance penalties"

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance

[copper pawn]

not sure why you show me this, I ask because I notice my res in hideout and in episode portal are different

[waxen sonnet]

You asked about the resistance penalty difference between campaign and maps. Specifically. I answered that question. Specifically.

[stable shore]

is it still needed for map completion ?

[copper pawn]

of which the entire link you gave doesn't answer the question, and the question could have been answered with simple yes/no though, but thanks for the help, I'll test it out in map anyway

[waxen sonnet]

Sometimes, you gotta take control of your own destiny. And Google a thing

[shadow sundial]

for christmas this year we should get everyone a subscription to LMGTFY

oh wait, it's free

[junior oyster]

Depending on what the map mod says your max ele resistance can go down I think

Or not max res but overall res I think

[waxen sonnet]

Both can happen

[copper pawn]

yeah, that's why I went inside and tested for myself, to find out that it's actually 10% higher than in epilogue wp, and 20% lower than hideout

[waxen sonnet]

I'm sure a map mod was changing that, but if you tested it and are satisfied then all good 👍

[junior oyster]

It'd be nice if people were kind enough to answer rather than referring to Google too

[waxen sonnet]

I hope that's a joke in this case...

[junior oyster]

Like no offence but unless it's something massively complex it doesn't take long to explain something

[copper pawn]

not a joke though, when the answer can be a simple yes/no, sending a website link is like a big insult

[waxen sonnet]

Well asking, no exaggeration, 150 questions a day that can be answered quicker by trying it out in game or typing three words into Google, is kinda an insult. We have answered every simple question for a week and a half. It's just getting ridiculous

[copper pawn]

irl the only time I send people a source is when it takes longer to explain myself than to let them read up

[junior oyster]

I'd rather people not answer than to go yea go Google that you noob

[waxen sonnet]

Fair enough. Won't answer